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Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man,

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I'm forty. Go ahead, make
my day every single week. I

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put my freaking heart and soul into
this. I don't go out there and

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laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's
funny to me. I don't wanna go

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out there and get embarrassed on Monday
night football fun everybody. I think this

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is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed from yesterday.

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Still the same person I was yesterday, and I got the same thing

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for you that I had yesterday.
You know why I'm here. You play

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to win the game. You don't
play to just play it. That's a

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great thing about sports. You play
to win, and I don't care if

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you don't have any wins. You
go play to win. When you start

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telling me it doesn't matter, I
can retire. Get out for the matter.

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Hope you had a good weekend.
Happy Monday to you and yours.

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Welcome to Exus and Bros. Throughout
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A little bit later on at seven
thirty five, we will welcome in

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Jason Langwell. He is the executive
director for the Rocket Mortgage Classic that will

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be taking place in Detroit, and
it is one of the cooler events that

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you can attend. It's one of
those golf courses that at the Detroit Golf

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Club that people love to walk and
players love to play. It's challenging for

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me, but it's not as challenging
for them. So we'll talk with Jason

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Langwell a little bit later on here
on Exus and Bros. If you missed

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it, yesterday, the Yankees swept
the Tigers behind a five to win.

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It only lasted eight innings. Aaron
Judge homeward in the first, Juan Soto

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with a bases loaded clearing double in
the seventh, and Shelby Miller takes the

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loss. He's the one who loaded
the bases. Look there, every at

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bat, every inning. You could
probably find a picture too that you're not

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sure about, you're wondering a little
bit about. It was pretty obvious that

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Shelby Miller disagreed with a number of
those calls. While he was on the

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bump, the rain was falling and
various Yankees were in the box, but

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I'm sure lot of and I wasn't
monitoring social media at the time, but

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I'm sure there are a lot of
people who were upset at that. But

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in the end ended up blaming Shelby
Miller and because he has struggled as of

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late, and I think Tiger fans
are going to put him on notice a

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little bit. And I get it. It's too bad because Derek scoubl was

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so good again. Now he gave
up the home run to Judge Right,

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he gave up a couple of runs. But you can't expect a pitcher to

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go out there and be perfect every
single night, can you know? I

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hope not. I hope that's not
your goal. I hope that's not your

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expectation. I should say it's probably
his goal, but it shouldn't be your

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expectation. It's not going to be
perfect. He's good enough to win,

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though. He has gotten to the
point where you truly believe every single time

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he takes them Ount Detroit's going to
win the baseball game. Overall, Scooble

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gives up the two runs, strikes
out twelve, scatters eight hits, and

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six innings of work. He gets
a no decision. Yankee Sweet. The

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Tigers Detroit now on the year,
eighteen up, sixteen down. At some

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point, I say this on a
regular basis, at some point we'll start

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to notice and recognize what other teams
are doing in the division. You're going

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to think only about your team for
now. They're four games back, No

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big deal. They've still outscored the
opponents, but their offense isn't very good.

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Cleveland continues to play well. They're
twenty two to twelve, and they're

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in town for a series starting tonight. Minnesota had their twelve game win streak

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snapped by Boston, yet yesterday they're
in second place. And then it's the

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Kansas City Royals who continue to surprise. And I'm waiting, just waiting for

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the bottom to fall out. They
lost a tight one to Texas yesterday,

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three to two. So Tigers back
in action again tonight. That's the beauty

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of baseball. Well, football will
sit there and lament an entire week of

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what went wrong at the stadium,
or perhaps praise for what went right at

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the stadium. Baseball gets you back
on track, and the Tigers and Guardians

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square off tonight. Jack Flaherty goes
against Tristan McKenzie, and then tomorrow it's

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Kent Tomata against Logan Allen. Remember
McKenzie's a guy who in his career dominates

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Detroit. Not that should we not
that we should necessarily expect that again tonight,

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although the offense continues to sputter.
Here's what I always think when I

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watch the Tigers, And it's getting
a little difficult now because of the whole

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Ballely and Xcinity situation. But there
are other ways you can watch this team

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and follow it. The thing that
I wonder about is when do we become

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certain? When are we convinced about
a certain player. I'll give you an

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example. Earlier this year, people
were calling me and saying, you know,

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I'm really excited about certain players and
their professional hitters. Mark Canna as

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an example, and he's been fine. Is he number three hitter in a

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lineup? Fine? To me?
No? Not a two fifty four although

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average, which can be very misleading. Five homers, sixteen runs driven in

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an ops of eight twenty seven.
Again, not three or four hitter.

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Not in a good lineup. It's
not the way it is. So many

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of us, probably me included truly
believed Cole Keith has to be on this

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team this year, signed him to
a long term deal. Let's go,

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where's the future. Why can't he
be playing second base for this team?

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Well, it's been a struggle for
him so far. One two Sure,

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don't believe that's who he is.
I don't care what he hits this year.

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I don't believe that's who he is. I think he can hit.

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I think he's going to be fine
eventually. This year he's going to have

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some pains. Who do you believe
is who they are? You're not gonna

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win many games. You're not gonna
win divisions. When you have guys with

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on base percentages below three hundred,
and in the lineup yesterday all but three

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had on base percentages below three hundred, You're not going to have many wins.

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You're not gonna win games, you're
not gonna win series. You ain't

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gonna win divisions when you're slugging percentage
is below three hundred and yesterday, going

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into the game, you had all
but four with slugging percentages below three hundred.

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That's just the facts. It's not
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Langwell seven thirty five, some basketball
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Whatever is on your mind in the
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we're necessarily talking about. We're here
for you to get out your frustrations or

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exalting your exuberation as well. From
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when you want. On the wire
Hotline eight sixty six eight three eight forty

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eight forty three, we were talking
about the Tigers and a loss to the

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Yankees, the sweep at the hands
of the Yankees, the fact that Detroit's

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offense has been awful, and I
get where people kind of narrow their focus.

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The focus has been on Spencer Torkelsen. Unfortunately, just a great kid.

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He really is, and he cares. I'm not sure how many people

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care about that. I think they
want production, and I understand it.

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You know, he's a one to
one that comes with a lot of pressure.

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He went two for three yesterday,
drove him one of Detroit's two runs

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with an RBI double. But I
understand where people are coming from. Here's

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the thing I would tell you a
lot of times. It's also about as

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the athlete understanding what is wrong baseball
as much as any other sport. I

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think sometimes golf, perhaps basketball for
shooters if they're struggling. But baseball can

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be such a mental sport. It
is so taxing on you mentally. It's

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really hard to describe sometimes and it's
frustrating. And there's an old cliche,

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but cliches are cliches for a reason. People say it a lot because it's

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true a lot. And it is
you succeed thirty percent of the time in

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your career, and chances are you'll
be a Hall of Famer. Or you're

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successful one out of every three at
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of famer. Now, he's not
going to be that guy, but he

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did say this the other day he
said, going into an at bat,

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you know what the guy's throwing,
Okay, And he said, you want

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to hit it, you want to
hit it hard. I'm just trying to

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make sure I'm squaring the ball up. Don't want to start too early on

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a pitch, on a certain pitch. Want to find a gap somewhere.

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It's such a game of small margins. You cannot let it eat it you.

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I don't feel like it's anything besides
the game on his recent struggles.

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This is life. It's a full
it's full of runs, and some runs

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are moving forward and some a little
less forward, like right now. It's

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a process, and some things in
the process are not working. Just because

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someone is struggling doesn't mean you automatically
change their entire approach and their entire swing.

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Now, should you be concerned that
he hasn't gone yard yet? Probably?

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Yeah. Is thirty one homers in
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enough to make you believe? Probably
not? And I understand why. Here's

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what you'll tell me. And it's
a fair it's a fair argument. And

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I had this debate with my friend
the other day last year. Too small

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of a sample size, Okay,
You're right, it is. It's one

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hundred and fifty nine games. It's
over six hundred abs. But it is

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a small sample size because it's only
one year, right, I mean he's

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only he's only got two years collectively
under his belt, and the first year

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wasn't a full season. It's one
hundred and ten games in twenty twenty two.

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If you think it's too small of
a sample size, I would agree

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with you. Is this year at
what would it be thirty two games that

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he's played thirty two games too small
of a sample size. That's all I'm

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asking. It's hard for us to
be patient with a team, a situation,

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and a player. It's really hard
for me too. Have you ever

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let me ask you this. Have
you ever applied for a job and wanted

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it so badly but they're not hiring
on your timeline and you get a little

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frustrated, you get a little antsy. Yeah, I understand it, totally

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get it. That's what I liken
it too. With a baseball player,

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where you're like, when is this
guy breaking out? Might be Vitrkolson,

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now, might be col Keith.
Perhaps you're waiting for Casey Miz and Matt

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Manning. I totally understand that because
you are tired of waiting for this team

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to compete for a division title.
You don't care that it finished second.

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Last year, they were under five
hundred and didn't give you a reason to

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truly believe that that team was going
to win the division. This year is

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different. It's very different. I'm
sure it's different for you, and it's

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different for me because expectations are there
number one, but number two, the

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progress is expected. You know what
clicked for me. I was listening to

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Paulo Bankiro last night. He's the
outstanding guard for Orlando. He had thirty

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eight points in their Game seven loss, and he talked about the process and

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how people should be excited about Orlando's
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accomplish, reach a Game seven and
get there this year and compete and really

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do a nice job. In the
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At the break, they were d
by his man. He is eighteen in

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the first half on the road in
Cleveland. He's looking at it from a

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positive. He's expecting it to build
for next year. He's expecting this learning

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experience will have a great impact on
him and other young teammates to reach the

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ultimate goal. It's a step,
right, It's a progression. Okay,

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Well, if you believe in that
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I do. I saw promise in
Torkolsen, I saw promise in Green,

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saw promise in Schooble, So I
promise in Carpenter. I'm sure you witnessed

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it too. If you believe in
that, then you think the following year

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it should get even better. Fair
Enough, you and I on the same

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page. Absolutely, that's where it
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it does for me. Am I
overly concerned? No am I disappointed?

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You bet? I am? No
home runs, twelve RBIs thirty two games.

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He's not the only one I'm disappointed
in, though, because this team

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offensively is not very gifted. And
that's a problem. I said a year

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ago, I truly believed you were
gonna have to trade some pitching, which

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is your depth. You've got good
pitchers in the miners. I'm not saying

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trade Jackson, job Ti Madden.
I'm just saying that's part of your strength

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within the system. Those are just
two guys. They've got a lot of

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them. To get a bat if
you're not gonna sign one, I wanted

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them to assign one. But if
you're not gonna sign one, use that.

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And Trade didn't do it, and
I think it's going to come back

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to haunt them. They gotta fix
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three and you CONTECTU Sports ready to twenty

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one thousand. Is there a sport
that you now watch more intently that you

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never have before. It's easy to
get caught up in the baseball season,

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basketball and hockey, and of course
football and college football college basketball. Is

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there another sport that you'll check it, even if it's occasionally that maybe you

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never have before. And I don't
mean like the Live Golf Tour. You

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know, Brooks kept go winning there, closing things out, krting a three

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under yesterday to win the event by
three his fourth live title. And now

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he'll use the next couple of weeks
or this week to get ready for next

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week and defend his PGA Championship Live
is off for a month. By the

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way, I don't mean that because
I follow that a little bit. John

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Rahm yesterday I think he finished tied
for tenth. He's the only player on

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tour to finish all seven events in
the top ten. And he's the first

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one to a one hundred birdies on
the tour this year. He's got I

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think he's got one hundred and five
something like that. For me, it's

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tennis, and I'm not going to
say it's not that I would use tennis

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as a jumping off point for a
discussion, you know, on this show

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with you folks at all. I
mean, we could if you wanted to,

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but it's not something that I would
necessarily steer. I just over the

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weekend. On Saturday was the finals
of the Madrid Open for the women,

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Elena Rebukina against Ega Sphia Tech Speia
Tech, the number one player in the

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world, Ribequina number two. They
played for three sets, which is what's

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required or of the best of three. The third set went to a tie

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break and you got a win by
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Via Tech. Unbelievable tennis. I
just I was wrapped up in it.

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I couldn't I couldn't stop watching it. I was like, holy crap,

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this is great. It was awesome, fantastic shots, the emotion. You

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could tell how spent they were.
They gave it everything they possibly could.

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It was a rematch of a year
ago that also lasted three sets, didn't

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go to a tie break, but
lasted three sets. Ribikina waned a year

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ago to be a tech one of
this year. It was unbelievable. And

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then yesterday the men's championship took place
with Andrey Rublev winning in three sets after

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losing the first set. It was
really cool stuff and it made me wonder.

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I can't say that it's going to
be appointment viewing for me. I'm

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not gonna sit there and tell you
I am DV ring or sitting in front

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of the guide hoping and waiting for
the top of the hour to watch the

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next tennis match. Nope, I'm
not going to tennis channel or anything like

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that in the near future. But
those two events in that sport had me

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thinking a little bit. I've always
greatly appreciated tennis athletes. You've got to

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be an unbelievable shape. I'd love
to know what their workouts are because you

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got to have great legs, So
are you doing a leg day on a

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regular basis? You know they're not
big. I would say they are strong

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from a standpoint of you know their
legs and their endurance. You got to

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have some strength if you're going to
last that long. The women championship lasted

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three hours and eleven minutes, the
men's two hours and fifty seven. You're

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not getting many breaks in a tennis
match. We're not going to a commercial

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timeout for thirty seconds, or I
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So I just wondering if if that's
anything, or is there another sport

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that maybe has caught your eye as
of late. Feel free to join us

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on that on the Meyer Hotline eight
sixty six eight three, eight forty eight

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forty three. We share experiences on
this show. That's kind of what we

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do. So we're just talking about
the Tigers and the loss to the Yankees

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and the struggling offense yet again,
no struggles for Shoho Tani, who seems

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to have really fit in nicely with
the Dodgers. Multi home run game again,

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seventeenth multi homer game for Shoho Tani, which is a little surprising.

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He's homered him back to back games. A Solio shot in the eighth inning

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traveled four hundred and sixty four feet
left his bat at over a one hundred

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and ten miles an hour. He's
only you know, going into Sunday's game,

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he was only batting three forty five. That's all not a big deal,

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right, Guy's unbelievable. Really is
absolutely amazing how good he is now.

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He's batting three sixty four. Just
so you know, he's only got

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ten homers, which is tied for
the league lead with like Trout, who's

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obviously heard, Marcelo Zuna who's gone
a while without one, and Gunner Henderson,

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the young phenom there in Baltimore.
So no problem for Otani yesterday.

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If you were watching a pretty good
game seven in Cleveland between the Calves and

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the Magic, and we alluded to
it moments ago Calves beat them one O

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six ninety four, Donovan Mitchell had
thirty nine. Are you like me every

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time you see Donovan Mitchell, anytime
you watch Donovan Mitchell, what do you

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think? Honestly, me too,
me too. I know what you're thinking.

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Could have been go ahead, It's
okay, we can admit it to

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each other. Yes, I feel
the same way. Could have been a

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Piston. He was the thirteenth pick
in the twenty seventeen NBA draft. Markel

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Foltz was number one, Ridiculous Lonzo
Ball was number two, Jason Tatum was

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three, Josh Jackson four, and
Diaron Fox five. The Pistons, wisely

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under a stan Van Gundy with the
twelfth overall pick, took Lukennartan out of

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Duke, who was a good shooter
at Duke, and then Denver said,

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thank you, I'll take Donovan Mitchell
out of Louisville. Oh and by the

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way, Bam out of Bayou went
right after him. I think the Pistons

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could use either one of those guys. O g Anna no a defense of

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Stalwart, a guy many people thought
the Pistons should try and go after,

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was also in that draft. By
the way, at twenty second overall.

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Kyle Kuzma, who seems to torch
the Pistons every time he plays them,

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was in that draft and taken twenty
seventh overall. Derek White, who's been

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really important for Boston as the number
one seed in the East, and the

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favorite to win the NBA title,
was taken twenty ninth in that draft.

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Josh Hart, who made big shot
after big shot for the Knicks in their

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series against Philadelphia, including Game six
where they beat the Sixers, played at

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Villanova won a national championship, was
taken thirtieth in that draft. It's good

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scouting, man, It's good job, really good job. Every time I

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see Donovan Mitchell and he scored thirty
nine. He scored fifty in the Game

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six loss. It's not a selfish
sixty either or fifty, I should say.

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It's not Kobe Bryant. And look, I love Kobe Bryant. He's

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one of the greatest players I've ever
seen play. Unbelievable, scorer, underrated.

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I mean, people talk about Lebron
James, Michael Jordan for good reason.

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Kobe Bryant needs to be in that
same conversation. So gifted, but

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you could tell when he wanted his
right Donovan Mitchell to me, it seems

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like he lets the game come to
him a little bit more. He scored

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eighty nine in Game six and seven
combined. That is the second most in

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playoff history. Cleveland came from eighteen
points down because min Caro had twenty four

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in the first half. Cleveland came
from eighteen points down, the largest comeback

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in a game seven since nineteen ninety
seven. And it's because of Mitchell.

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Mitchell had fifteen in the first half, obviously, twenty four and a second

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half went absolutely nuts, hitting from
deep, hitting on the run, taking

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it inside. And every time he
did it, all I could think of

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is, why isn't he wearing a
Piston's uniform. Oh, that's right,

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because stan Van Gundy chased need.
See, the year before he went with

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the athlete. The year before stan
Van Gundy said, here's what I'm going

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to do. I'm going to take
care of business and I'm going to draft

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for athleticism him or was it the
year after? What am I thinking?

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Oh? No, No, they
needed shooting, That's what it was.

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They needed shooting. So he decided
to go for a shooter. That's what

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everybody said they needed, right,
Yeah, that was it. Got to

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get a shooter. Let's get a
shooter. Man, make sure make sure

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we take care of that business since
we lacked. Don't take the best player

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available. You don't want to do
that, God forbid, so you take

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instead, you take a guy who
can shoot, allegedly because in sixteen I

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think they took Henry Ellenson, which
turned out to be a really good pick.

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Not so, Luke Canard is available, as is Donovan Mitchell. Mitchell

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goes into the practice facility and has
one of the best performances according to people

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I spoke to. People who were
at the workout said he had one of

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the best workouts they have ever seen
by any player. So what do they

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do? They draft Lukennart. Now, all Donovan Mitchell does is buckets.

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That's all he does. It's incredible, absolutely incredible, so good. It's

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exactly what the Pistons could use.
Right, Stanley Johnson was drafted in twenty

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fifteen, Right, thank you,
Ben. So that's what every time I

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see him, that's what I think, like, well missed out there again.

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You can always sit back and say
armchair quarterback, should have taken this,

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should have taken that guy. But
that's what your scouts are supposed to

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do. That's what your front off
is supposed to be able to do that.

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That's their job. They're supposed to
know that more than anybody else.

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I don't know if you watched a
couple of days ago, Game one Western

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Conference semis Minnesota and Denver. Anthony
Edwards, who is incredibly talented, athleticism

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beyond belief. He likes to talk, he backs it up. He got

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a technical foul in the third quarter
in their one h six ninety nine win

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over Denver on Saturday, drove to
the hoop, laid it up and in

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and then stared at the Nuggets Reggie
Jackson, former Piston, and then was

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quickly whistled for a technical foul.
I think it was Courtney Kirkland who did

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it. All he did was stare
at him. It's uh, it was

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a little ridiculous. I think sometimes
this celebration can be a little ridiculous for

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NBA players. It could be,
you know, I mean every single it's

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not every single way. A lot
of plays. All you're doing, you're

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seeing you're seeing guys kind of blow
up. You're seeing guys stare it down,

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You're seeing guy's trash talk. It
gets there has to be a difference

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between playground stuff and truly the NBA. It gets a little old. But

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all he did was he makes the
nice layup. He went baseline off glass

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and the only all he did was
stare at him. For a little bit.

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It's just it was too sensitive on
the part of Kirkland. It's almost

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I don't want to say that the
referee becomes the story, but in that

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moment he did. You can give
him a warning, can't you? Should

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you call taunting technicals in the postseason, I don't know you can, but

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not for that anyway, the NBA
rescinded the technical foul. They didn't agree

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with it either, so there's a
positive right, no harm, no foul,

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no pun intended. Rangers take Game
one against Carolina in the Eastern Conference

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Semis four to three. Macas Avantajet
had two goals in it assist and the

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Stars and Golden Knights played last night. Did you watch this game at all?

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I did? Stars went it to
one. Peter de Boy, who

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is the head coach of the Dallas
Stars, is now eight in all time

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coaching. In game sevens tied with
Brad Richards for the best all the time,

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whether it be playing or coaching.
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goals in five minutes in the third
and beat Team USA six to four in

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the gold medal game in Finland.
That was nuts. Third period was nuts.

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It was three to one us going
in and it's you don't know what

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the hell happened. You're like,
wait a minute, you guys were so

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good defensively in the first two you
were quickert of the puck. You guys

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were winning all the battles, and
then boom gone and Canada celebrates a gold

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medal. There are not many professional
rivalries anymore. We'd like to think there

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are way better. Back in the
day, when the Kansas City Chiefs and

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Oakland Raiders played, they hated one
another. It was great. Way back

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in the day. When Chicago and
Green Bay played, they hated each other.

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That's great. Now all we get
is this, we get Yankees Red

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Sox constantly. That shoved down our
throat Michigan Ohio State. Absolutely, there

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are other great rivalries, but you
noticed I mentioned one that was a collegiate

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rivalry. There's not many professional rivalries
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are, but it's not the same
feel Canada Team USA and the World Juniors,

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especially U eighteen, it's definitely real. Really looking forward to the conversation

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Throughout the Great State of Michigan.
Here on the Michigan Sports Network.

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Matt Shepard with you been as our
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can text the program Sports Radio to
twenty one thousand. There was some really

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good theater over the weekend. Awesome
stuff. I don't care what sport you're

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talking about. Phenomenal at one point
or another, including hockey. The Game

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seven between Boston and Toronto was sensational. Just absolutely adored it. Now,

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you get a Boston team that is
really good, really balanced against a Toronto

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team that is offensively gifted, but
seemed to figure it out when they were

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down three games to one, seemed
to figure out what they were going to

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need to do. Just that and
it got him back in the series.

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Part of it was perhaps their head
coach calling out one of his star players.

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Jim Montgomery is the head coach of
the Boston Bruits, and following the

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loss in Game six, Boston's second
straight loss in the series, here's what

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he had to say about his two
time All Star and ten year veteran David

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Pasternak, or in general. He
said, your best players need to be

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your best players this time of the
year. I think the effort is tremendous.

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They need to come through with some
big time plays in big time moments.

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I think Marshan has done that in
the series. That's a reference to

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his captain, Brad Marshan. Pasta
the nickname for David Pastronak needs to step

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00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:53.440
up personally. I hate that cliche. Who's going to step up, Who's

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00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:58.639
going to elevate their game is a
better way to say it, because Pastornak

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00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:07.000
has stepped up up a number of
times. Anyway, a lot of people,

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a lot of athletes, and I
think a lot of people. I'm

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00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:15.719
not just referring to hockey players or
athletes in general. If you get called

486
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:17.039
out by your boss, there's a
lot of people who just kind of wilt.

487
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.360
If your boss takes exception to what
they're doing, you're doing, or

488
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:34.840
actually singles you out, you get
pissed off, you might immediately start defending

489
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:44.199
yourself, and to a certain extent
it might be human nature. David Pastronach

490
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:51.239
did not do that. This is
what David Pastronach said following the game seven

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00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:55.679
win to one in overtime against Toronto, by the way in which Pastronach scored

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00:48:55.719 --> 00:49:00.760
the game winning goal. This is
what he had to say. Listen with

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00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.639
Jimmy. You know he said the
stuff he did after was it after the

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00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.320
game six? And you know I
was. You know, I told him

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like, if I'm the coach and
you or me, I would say the

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same thing. So I had no
problem of him saying that, you know,

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he's trying to bring the best out
of every single player, you know,

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and he expects UH more. And
how I said, I just took

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it, doesn't manally know? And
UH tried to be better. I admitted

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I need to be better, you
know so, and I still have ways

501
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:35.719
to be better. How refreshing is
that he's twenty seven, By the way,

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he did have three goals in the
series, probably not what he's used

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00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:45.119
to. But how refreshing is that
he's trying to bring the best out in

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00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:50.039
every single player and he expects more. I took it as a man.

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00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.719
I tried to be better. I
admit I need to be better, and

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00:49:52.760 --> 00:50:00.880
I still have a ways to go. That is awesome. There's no finger

507
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:10.159
pointing, there's no give me a
tissue. I need some solace. I'm

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00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:17.000
feeling uncomfortable right now. Why are
you pointing the finger at me? There's

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twenty four other guys here. Why
not bring none of that in a world

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right now where it's almost dangerous to
say. I took it as a man

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and tried to be better. Pasternak
went there. Good for him. We

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got a day and age where if
you say that, you're almost concerned because

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you don't want to offend anybody.
Got news for you, man, In

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that sport especially, but in sports
in general, it's just the way it

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has to be. Meanwhile, other
coaches are getting fired and their athletes are

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nowhere to be found. Now full
disclosure, all right, I'm gonna be

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honest with you here. Darvin Ham, Michigan native. I like him.

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00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:24.760
What kind of coaches he He's been
a head coach for two years. One

519
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:30.039
year he took his team to the
conference finals. The other year his team

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00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:39.280
lost to the defending world champions in
the first round, and did so despite

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having double digit leads in the first
three games. Is that coaching? I

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00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:58.079
don't know, man. I tell
you, when a team wins, people

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00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:05.840
are talking about the players more oftentimes
than not. In the NBA, when

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a team wins, I mean after
last year, honestly, anybody talking about

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00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:17.360
Mike Malone. Hell no, nope, you know who they're talking about,

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00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:24.360
Nikola Jokic, Jamal Murray, guys
like that. That's who they're talking about.

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00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:30.400
Dallas wins in advances, Anybody talking
about Jason Kidd, noop, they're

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00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:37.519
talking about Luka Doncic. They're talking
about a lot of different players on the

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00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:43.360
Dallas Mavericks. They're not talking about
the coach if they lose. Absolutely,

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Now that comes with the territory.
I think a lot of coaches know that,

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they understand it, but I truly
believe that's what it's about. If

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00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:58.360
the Lakers beat the Nuggets, you
and I are probably talking more about Lebron

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James, Anthony Davis, D'Angelo Russell
and the like. No, probably we

534
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:12.199
are. I've mentioned how good the
Knicks have been numerous times on this show.

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00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.679
How many times you hear me talk
about Tom Thibodeau. Maybe once,

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00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:25.639
I'm talking about Jalen Brunson, talking
about Josh Hart, talking about Dante Devincenzo.

537
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:34.719
Hell, I've even mentioned Julius Randall, who's hurt. So I guarantee

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00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:39.719
you if they if the Lakers had
pushed Denver or beaten Denver, nobody expected

539
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:45.800
them to had anyone, how many
people? What would we be talking about?

540
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:52.440
The almighty Lebron James and Anthony Davis. And Lebron James was really good

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in the series, but he sure
wasn't going to protect Darvin? Was he?

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00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.320
A year ago? When they got
to the Western Conference finals. He

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00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:19.239
was It's almost like a bit of
a coach killer. You want to be

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considered the greatest of all time.
I mean, it's interesting again, Michael

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00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:28.880
Jordan. People know how I feel
about it. Phil Jackson for a long

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long time. Man. Now maybe
Phil Jackson just massaged egos better. Darvin

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00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:39.840
Ham's have been there for two years. Lebron James seems to wear out coaches,

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00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:47.599
does he not? Accountability by David
Pasternak? How much accountability were there

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or was there by Lebron James?
Probably not enough. Phone number on the

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on X's and Bros. Nineteen after
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eight six eight three eight forty eight
forty three. You could text the program

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sports Radio to twenty one thousand.
We've touched on a lot of different things

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to start the day. Let's get
to a couple of texts, Ben,

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what do we got? Yeah,
the tigers current eighteen and sixteen record projects

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to a season ending eighty six and
seventy eight, not likely to win the

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division? What do you think it'll
take to win the division? Before the

589
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season began, what did you think
it would take to win the AL Central?

590
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:42.079
Now? First thing you got to
ask yourself? Is the AL Central

591
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:46.400
a little bit better than you thought? Right now? Yeah? I think

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it is. It is, honestly. I mean, Cleveland's better than I

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thought they would be. Minnesota winning
twelve in a row, wouldn't have expected

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that. For a reference point in
case people were wondering, last year,

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it took eighty seven wins to claim
the division title eighty seven. The year

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before it took ninety two, and
the year before that it took ninety three.

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So do you want to would you
think ninety wins would win it?

598
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:29.079
Absolutely? I believe ninety can win
it. I don't believe the wild card

599
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:32.280
is coming out of the division as
of right now. It's just my opinion.

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I don't think that's doable. Who
were the wild cards a year ago?

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How much do you have to get
to get? Look, I wouldn't

602
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:57.360
even worry about that right now.
I think the best case scenario is you

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win your division. Period. Originally, like you, I thought it was

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01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:08.719
a very winnable division. I still
believe it's a winnable division. I still

605
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:14.159
am not convinced that Kansas City can
keep this up, although I like Bobby

606
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:19.400
Wood Junior a lot. But every
time I say that, I saw like

607
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:22.480
Minnesota's going to go on another twelve
game winning streak. I tied the franchise

608
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:29.360
record for crying out loud or tied
second. It's second, I think their

609
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:35.400
second longest winning streak ever. When
I say that, and when I say

610
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:38.840
the same thing about Cleveland, I
need to remind myself that people in those

611
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:44.079
markets who are doing exactly what I'm
doing and who feel like you feel,

612
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:52.440
aren't they looking at the Tigers and
go that offense isn't good enough. Honestly,

613
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:57.039
that's what you have to consider.
You can't we can't look at everything

614
01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:01.719
just from our point of view,
say wow, Kansas City's not good enough,

615
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:07.480
Minnesota's got flaws, SODA's Cleveland,
Hey Mann, The turn that mirror

616
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:14.199
around a little bit and people will
be going, I don't think the Tigers

617
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:16.079
are very good. I think their
pitching is really good. I'd love to

618
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:23.039
have their pitching. But dot dot
dot you could say what they're on pace

619
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:28.079
for that not good enough to win
the division? Yeah, that's because look

620
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.039
at Cleveland's pace, look at Minnesota's
pace, and as of right now,

621
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:37.360
look at Kansas City's pace. Any
other texts? Yeah, how did Scott

622
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:42.679
Harris not get into the Marlins hitter
trade talks? That's a Harris type of

623
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:47.880
player to lead off this lineup and
push everyone down a spot. I mean,

624
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:52.639
I assume you're talking about Luis our
eyes. Did you see, by

625
01:01:52.679 --> 01:02:01.039
the way, what the Miami Marlins
general manager said, I don't know.

626
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:05.599
Did you read that at all?
Ben? How would you like to have

627
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:13.159
that situation? Now? Remember Kim
ing Is was out. They did a

628
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:17.719
nice job of she did a nice
job of putting a team together a year

629
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:28.679
ago. Peter Bendex is their new
general manager. When asked about the trade

630
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:37.239
with Luis Rays to San Diego for
minor leaguers, three minor leaguers and a

631
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:43.400
bullpen arm, he said, being
that we're not going to make the playoffs

632
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:47.280
this year in all likelihood, in
so many words, that's what he said.

633
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:57.280
I thought to myself, Wow.
You you're giving up that easily,

634
01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:02.440
that fast. You're not looking to
improve your team. What you're looking to

635
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:07.800
do is to bleed your team and
build for the future. Now they are

636
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:16.760
ten and twenty six. They have
the worst run differential in the Division and

637
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:22.400
the second worst in the National League. Only Colorado is worse, and only

638
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:27.199
Colorado and the White Sox are worse
than Miami. They are fourteen and a

639
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:31.679
half games back. They can't compete
with Philadelphia and Atlanta and the Mets not

640
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:37.760
in the division, but on payroll. So I understand why you may think

641
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:45.960
that privately, you may say that
behind closed doors. Why you would say

642
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:55.000
that in the media and to the
public is beyond me. That's ridiculous.

643
01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:04.920
Again, you may think that,
you don't say it, do you honestly

644
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:11.559
would you say that? And if
you're a fan, how about how would

645
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:21.280
you take that? That's incredible.
You want people to buy tickets walk through

646
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:34.800
your ballpark, and that's the stuff
you're saying. Amazing And at some point,

647
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:42.840
at some point you're going to say, what, what are you gonna

648
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:47.679
say? How come we're not drawing
any fans? Well, here's why.

649
01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:53.599
You just basically told fans you guys
are not going to make the postseason,

650
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.920
so we have to get what we
can right now for our best hitter and

651
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:09.599
one of the game's best hitters.
How ridiculous is that? That's asinine,

652
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:21.119
Absolutely asenine to me. You're talking
about You're talking about a business here,

653
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:28.119
they really are. You're talking about
a business, and you've got a guy

654
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:33.639
coming out and saying we're not making
the playoffs, so our business isn't good

655
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:43.480
enough. What an outrageous statement.
Again, you may think that it may

656
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:45.400
be something that is in the back
of your mind and the reason you did

657
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:54.559
the deal, but be careful his
exact quote, we are unlikely to make

658
01:05:54.599 --> 01:06:00.519
the playoffs this year. You may
believe that to your core. You never

659
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:11.000
never say that out loud. Meyer
hotline eight sixty six eight three, eight

660
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:15.440
forty eight forty three. But look, I don't think I went off on

661
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.320
a tangent there. I don't think
the Tigers could have gotten in on that

662
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:24.719
because of what Miami was requesting.
And you know what, I like Luis

663
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:29.440
Rays. Could they use him absolutely
place second base? Then what do you

664
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:30.719
do with Cole Keith? Perhaps you
move him to third. I don't know,

665
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:35.159
you need power. I don't needy
power, Gotta get power. In

666
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:42.039
the middle of the lineup, Markani
is hitting third, Jason Langwell on the

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other side. We'll talk Rocket Mortgage
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forty eight forty three. And welcome, of course to the Rocket Mortgage Classic

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that'll be taking place in June June
twenty fifth through the thirtieth at the beautiful

691
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:04.680
Detroit Golf Club. The executive director
of that fine event is Jason Langwell.

692
01:09:05.079 --> 01:09:09.039
He joins us here on Exs and
Bros. Jason, thanks for the time,

693
01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:12.319
appreciate it very much. This will
be the sixth straight year you guys

694
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:15.479
put on this fabulous event. What
are you most proud of of what you

695
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:18.039
guys have been able to do so
far? Hey Matt, good morning.

696
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:23.159
You know, yeah, it's hard
to believe it's been six years. Well,

697
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:25.479
I'm proud of a lot of things. That's a tough question to answer,

698
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:28.920
but I'd say, ultimately it has
to be the impact that we've made.

699
01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:32.359
You know, when Dan Gilbert had
the vision to bring the event to

700
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:35.840
Detroit, you know, he was
like, look, let's shut a bright

701
01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:40.279
spotlight in the city Detroit and find
a way to impact the outcome and do

702
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:43.359
so in a significant way. You
know, many people don't know that pj

703
01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:45.760
TOR events are five to one c
three organizations and all their net proceeds go

704
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:50.640
back to doing just that, impacting
the outcome. And we you know,

705
01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:55.760
we went on a mission in twenty
twenty and that mission was in the Digital

706
01:09:55.800 --> 01:10:00.239
Divide here in Detroit, which for
us means how do we provide I had

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01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:04.720
access to the Internet and other supporting
technologies to folks in the Detroit area within

708
01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:08.640
a ten minute walk of their home. And we're proud to say that a

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01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:12.680
handful of years in maybe probably the
most prob ful of is what we've been

710
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:16.399
able to do there. We've invested
in technology hubs. We started this effort,

711
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:20.279
there was a handful of technology hubs
throughout the city of Detroit. There's

712
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:26.039
over twenty two technology hubs today.
We've enrolled over one hundred and fifty thousand

713
01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:31.760
residents in the federal government's Affordable Connectivity
Program help lower the cost of internet access.

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01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.640
And so I definitely think it has
to be the impact when you can

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01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:36.840
come out. It's one thing to
go out and through a great experience and

716
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:41.720
have people having a great time.
It's another thing to make a lasting impact

717
01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:44.880
in the community that's really making a
difference. And we're really proud of that.

718
01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:47.359
Yeah, you should be. It's
amazing what you guys have been able

719
01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:51.520
to accomplish. It's one of the
crown jewels of this area. I've said

720
01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:55.279
this for as long as I've lived
here, in this my entire life.

721
01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:59.319
Look, Detroit does things right.
You guys have done it right. Tickets

722
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:02.039
are on sale right now, people
can get them. How do they go

723
01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:05.239
about getting them and how much is
it going to cost them. Yeah,

724
01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:09.000
thanks man. Like you said,
we're really excited to have fans back to

725
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:12.199
the Trait Golf Club this year.
Are to believe it's oar sixth playing June

726
01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:15.479
twenty fifth to thirtieth. As you
mentioned, tickets are available for purchase starting

727
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:19.840
today at ten am, so shortly
they want to go to Rocket Mortgage Classic

728
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:25.039
dot Com. Tickets start at sixty
five dollars and they go up from there.

729
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:28.359
As we get a little closer to
the event, prices will go up,

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01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:31.640
so fans are wise to go now
and get their tickets. You know,

731
01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:34.880
the last time we were in this
date window, which is the last

732
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:39.760
week in June, a full week
before the fourth, was our inaugural year

733
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:44.720
back in twenty nineteen and lastly won
and we sold out all of our hospitality

734
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:48.640
and sold out a couple of days
on the weekends. So you know,

735
01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:53.560
we're we're excited about that. Got
a great list of offering for you know,

736
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:56.560
Mother's Day gift to Father's Day gift. If you're a fan of golf

737
01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:00.159
and honest of your fan of some
good summertime fun in the true we've got

738
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.920
something for you. You also don't
have to pay for some of the days

739
01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:08.720
we're really proud were the only PGA
Tour event it's offering two consecutive days for

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01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:11.720
free. We call them our de
Trade Community Days, and you can get

741
01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:15.920
complementary parking and admission and not even
going to your wall at all for those

742
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:20.000
two days and come out on Tuesday
attend our youth clinic, but the first

743
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:25.560
tea sponsors we typically have some lions
and celebrities at that and then make your

744
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:30.279
way over to the area three one
three celebrities scramble which our top players play

745
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:32.840
in. We've had Barry Sanders,
Calvin Johnson, we'll have some mother.

746
01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:36.199
I'm going to tease a little bit
some other current lions that everyone's going to

747
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:40.039
want to come out and see that
day for free, and then they'll be

748
01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:44.560
able to come back on Wednesday for
our Death and Dental Proram and get that

749
01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:46.960
front row seat. Every seat of
the golf tournament is a floor seat.

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01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:49.039
You can get right up along the
rope line, and we'll be able to

751
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:53.439
do that for free on Wednesday,
watch our top players play in the program.

752
01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:56.680
We'll have some celebrities play in there
as well. And making me of

753
01:12:56.680 --> 01:13:00.239
that inclusive and accessible something is a
real priority for us already for Rocket Mortgage,

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01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:03.520
and we got some great paid options. We've got some free options as

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01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:08.000
well on Tuesday Wednesday. But days
should get to Rocket Mortgage Classic dot com

756
01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:13.680
right now to get their tickets.
Jason Langwell, the executive director of Rocket

757
01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.840
Mortgage Classic, Joining is here on
ex'es and bro sixty five dollars per day.

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01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:20.439
That's nothing to have a great time
with your family. And then you've

759
01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:25.079
got the Lending Tree lounge too,
that's a little bit more, but well

760
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:28.039
worth it. And then when you
look at the field a year ago,

761
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:31.199
what an exciting event it was with
Ricky Fowler winning on the first playoff hole,

762
01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:34.439
needed a birdie, eighteen wins on
the first playoff hole. You had

763
01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:39.239
big names like Colin Morricowell part of
it a year ago. This year you've

764
01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:43.199
got some big names too as Foller
comes back to defend his title, don't

765
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:45.880
you. Yeah, we're really excited
about our initial offering for our field.

766
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:49.199
Here. You mentioned that that Ricky
you'll be back. He's excited to be

767
01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:54.840
back. Spoke with him at RBC
a couple of weeks ago. He's jack

768
01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:57.279
to make the victory lap through and
see if he can't do another. I

769
01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:00.600
mean, he's expecting a second child
now Knowlson is, you know, expecting

770
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:03.840
their second girl in the November time
frame. But he, I think,

771
01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:09.640
would love to host his second Rocket
Mortgage Classic Trophy at the end of Junie.

772
01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:11.960
At a heck of a season last
year with eight top ten finishes.

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01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.520
But yeah, as you mentioned,
we've got another couple of other great guys

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01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:16.640
committed early. Tom Kim is going
to be at our field this year.

775
01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:19.720
He's already won three times on tours, not even twenty two years old,

776
01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:24.600
yet great player. Last time when
he made his debut here in twenty two

777
01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:27.560
he finished seventh, So he's got
nine for this golf course. Feels like

778
01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:30.359
he can win and we'd love to
see him do it. And then Will

779
01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:34.520
Zelatorus has committed top thirty player in
the world. Has been battling some back

780
01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:39.640
injuries last year. Flared up on
him a few weeks ago, but he

781
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:43.199
feels like he's on the men.
And someone who's just a great player,

782
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:45.319
but really strong in the majors.
You know, he's only played in ten

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01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:49.319
majors in his career thus far,
he's got seven top ten finishes in those.

784
01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:54.199
And someone who really has fallen in
love with the city in the area.

785
01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:57.840
He's an honor remember out at Orchard
Lake Country Club. You know,

786
01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:00.960
he loves the staying at the Schinola
downtown, loves being in the city.

787
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:03.680
So a really strong initial lineup and
one that we think will only get better

788
01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:06.439
as we make our way into the
PGA and on the back end of the

789
01:15:06.520 --> 01:15:11.760
US Open. What do players like
most about not just the event, but

790
01:15:11.800 --> 01:15:15.920
the course in general, because obviously
the high scores. We love seeing birdies,

791
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:17.760
just like we do in any sports. You'd like to see runs in

792
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:23.640
baseball and points and all the others. What do players like most about playing

793
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:27.039
at Detroit Golf Club? Do you
think? Yeah, you know the I

794
01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:30.279
hear a few things on that,
Matt. One is that many players grew

795
01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:33.479
up playing, you know, either
on or in and around the Donald Ross

796
01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:38.079
golf Course. We got a classic
Donald Ross track here takes players back a

797
01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:40.600
lot to their youth when they were
playing, you know, back home.

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01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:45.199
It's a classic style clubhouse, classic
style golf course. Fits their eye.

799
01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:47.520
They love the green complexes. We've
got a Bent Poe mix that they really

800
01:15:47.640 --> 01:15:50.840
like, and as you said,
they get after it and they love doing

801
01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:56.880
that too. They love coming here, playing this golf course and enjoying the

802
01:15:56.920 --> 01:15:59.159
experience in the area. But I
tell you too, you know, more

803
01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:01.600
and more you're in out, the
more players that come, the more players

804
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:06.600
that walk away feeling awesome about the
experience away from the golf course. I

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01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:11.319
would I would tell you without any
bias that the Sheinola Hotel is one of

806
01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:15.039
it's not the most popular hotel on
the PGA tour for players. We got

807
01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:17.119
fireworks that are happening on Monday night
of tournament week, and you know,

808
01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:21.199
the fireworks showed out here is incredible
that they throw in players, don't you

809
01:16:21.239 --> 01:16:25.800
know. Keithan Bradley, you know, you know, we had a few.

810
01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:28.479
Brendan Todd actually came in early last
year, made it a point to

811
01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:31.880
bring his family in to take take
advantage of the fireworks celebration in town.

812
01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:34.119
So it's a mix. They love
the golf course, but they also love

813
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:39.760
what's happening in the city. How
have you been able to change the perception

814
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:45.560
that people have outside of this area
about Detroit and about your golf tournament,

815
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:50.399
Because, let's face it, when
it was first announced, people outside this

816
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:54.960
area think, oh man, who
wants to play in Detroit. That's not

817
01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:58.439
how they feel any longer. There
has to be a different vibe. Now

818
01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:00.760
what is it and how did you
get it? Well, I mean,

819
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.680
I'll started with Dan Gilbert and his
vision for what he's done in the city

820
01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:10.319
to build an incredible, incredible downtown
area where it's fun to walk around,

821
01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:14.880
fun to be around, and with
the players. Honestly started with that narrative.

822
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:16.239
Look, these guys, they're going
to play in the four majors,

823
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:18.520
They're going to play in the signature
events. They're going to play a couple

824
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:20.640
of times out West, They're going
to play a couple of times down in

825
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:23.840
Texas. They're gonna play a couple
of times down of Florida. When you

826
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:27.439
get through all that, you're up
to some twenty events, right, And

827
01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:30.359
these guys are going to play twenty
five ish events a year. So all

828
01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:33.640
the remaining you know, twenty some
events in the PGA Tour, they're only

829
01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:35.960
going to select a handful, so
they get a choice on where they're going

830
01:17:36.039 --> 01:17:39.920
to call their home. And a
lot of it comes down to not just

831
01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:42.680
the golf course, but how what
kind of trips are going to be with?

832
01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:45.119
You know, do I have a
convenient airport to come to do.

833
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:47.720
I have a community experience downtown.
You know, where's my what's my caddy

834
01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:51.479
experience going to be? Like?
We leaned in heavy to the caddy experience.

835
01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:56.680
We give some of the caddies courtesy
cars. No other PGA Tour event

836
01:17:56.720 --> 01:18:00.279
does that. We give caddies a
locker inside of the tray golf clubs locker

837
01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:02.640
room. Very few, if any
other PGA Tour events don't do that.

838
01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:06.119
So we took a first, best
only mentality. We wanted to be the

839
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:09.479
first to do things. We wanted
to be the best of what we did,

840
01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.399
or we wanted to be the only
ones doing certain things. And that

841
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:15.760
free pronged approach in the narrative and
the reality that's come with it has really

842
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:19.720
widened people's eyes and I think given
us, you know, the fields that

843
01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:24.000
we've been able to enjoy and have
and that we think will continue to have.

844
01:18:24.039 --> 01:18:26.840
But it started with Dan and the
vision for what he's built in Detroit.

845
01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:29.439
And then we turned into the Chamber
of Commerce and went out and told

846
01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:31.239
that story and got enough people to
come, and now the players are doing

847
01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:33.439
it. We got Key and Bret, we got a lot of other players

848
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:38.760
out advocating for what an incredible experience
they are going to have, you know,

849
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:41.399
during the week, you know,
debating on whether you know London chop

850
01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:43.960
house or private property is going to
be the stake place they come and eat

851
01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.760
at. And that's the kind of
things you need to do to get people

852
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:49.880
to come a year in and year
out. That's such a great perspective.

853
01:18:49.960 --> 01:18:55.119
Jason Langwell, the executive director of
Rocket Morhigs Classic Joiners here on Exis and

854
01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:58.039
Bros. That's this is how it's
done. This is how it's done right.

855
01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:00.279
But you want to grow the game. You want to grow what you've

856
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:04.720
done in your contributions to the community, which you've done an excellent job at.

857
01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:09.079
But you want to grow the game
too. Kids fifteen and under receiving

858
01:19:09.079 --> 01:19:13.279
complimentary grounds and mission when a company
by a ticketed adult is really important.

859
01:19:13.279 --> 01:19:15.640
Can you speak a little bit more
You'd mentioned it briefly, but can you

860
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:18.359
speak a little bit more about what
you're offering to young kids as you try

861
01:19:18.399 --> 01:19:23.439
to grow the game of golf in
Detroit in the metro area. Yeah,

862
01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:27.079
it's ton of things. You mentioned
the youth fifteen and under getting in for

863
01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:29.520
free, you know, we're also
you know, one of the things we've

864
01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:32.960
launched and we're really really proud of
would be the John Ship and which will

865
01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:36.399
take place the weekend before the Rocket
Mortgage Classic. We bring in the top

866
01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:42.039
black men in the country that are
competing for one exemption into the Rocket Mortgage

867
01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:45.600
Classic. We're excited to have Chase
Johnson win that event last year. He

868
01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:50.640
was actually our first John Shippen player
to make the cut last year at the

869
01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:55.199
Rocket Mortgage Classic. And Sunday is
actually a free day there too, so

870
01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:58.840
a lot of Detroit youth are coming
out. We're not just a great American

871
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:00.840
city, We're a great American Black
city, and young Black men and women

872
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:05.640
are coming out watching you know,
these great black competitors compete and earn exemptions

873
01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:10.760
into the event for free on Sunday
before our event, and then you know,

874
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:15.359
the Community Days is where we really
offer great opportunities for youngsters to come

875
01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:18.640
out and get familiar with the game
and enjoy Our Youth Clinic is very fun

876
01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:23.159
and interactive. We've got kids out
there, you know, trying to knock

877
01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:28.119
vignatas down and get candy. We've
got celebrities out there, We've got lions

878
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.119
out there that are coming in to
do that and then roll into our celebrity

879
01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:34.520
scramble on the back end of it, and then we're doing a ton of

880
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:38.640
things. We have a lot of
young standard Bears that are carrying those signs,

881
01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:42.159
those scoring signs. Those are all
youth, right, and it's a

882
01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:45.600
really unique volunteer opportunity for them to
come out and spend the day, have

883
01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:48.560
their families following, and they're not
just watching the players. The families are

884
01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:53.199
all watching these kids that are carrying
these scoring signs, having a once in

885
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:57.600
a lifetime experience that we offer on
an annual basis. And so, you

886
01:20:57.640 --> 01:21:00.119
know, it's a combination of those
things. You know, we also do

887
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:03.000
a big bussing program when we go
down to the YMCA. We have buses

888
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:06.880
show up there and bring youth that
are part of programming within our city out

889
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:14.760
to the event for free. So
a real inclusive, intentional approach to engage

890
01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:18.119
youth and offer them a really,
really amazing experience at the Detroit Golf Club.

891
01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:21.000
You know what it feels like,
Jason, It feels like a Midwest

892
01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:26.159
event. It's because you have Midwest
people putting it on just you know,

893
01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:31.800
very friendly and welcoming. It's exactly
what the area calls for needs and you

894
01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:34.239
guys deliver. Thanks for the time, and thanks for doing what you guys

895
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:38.840
do. It's great stuff. Thanks, Matt, appreciate it. You bet.

896
01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:42.680
That's Jason Langwell. He's the executive
director of the Rocket Mortgage Classic.

897
01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:46.159
If you want more information, go
to Rocket Mortgage Classic dot com. You

898
01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:53.000
can follow them on Instagram, on
Facebook, and on Twitter at Rocket Classic

899
01:21:53.439 --> 01:22:00.359
take place June twenty fifth through June
thirtieth at the Detroit Golf Club. I

900
01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:02.520
have been there. I've been part
of it. I've been fortunate to be

901
01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:09.119
a celebrity starter there. It was
exciting, it was fun. It was

902
01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:13.279
awesome to meet so many people,
not just golfers, but I mean fans

903
01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:17.439
as well, and to follow certain
golfers around the course. I think it's

904
01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:24.960
one of those events too. I
suppose golf in general is like this because

905
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:29.199
so many of us play it.
And I use that word loosely. Loosely

906
01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:32.520
by the way, because so many
of us play it, we think we

907
01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:40.760
can relate to what those guys do. I can't shape shots like Tom Kim,

908
01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:45.560
I can't drive the ball like Wills
Alatorres. I can't score like Ricky

909
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:54.800
Fowler. But when they line up
from one hundred and seventy yards and they're

910
01:22:54.880 --> 01:23:00.680
taking a wedge or a nine iron, I immediately think, what what club

911
01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:09.439
would I use here? How in
the world are they getting it one hundred

912
01:23:09.439 --> 01:23:15.720
and seventy yards with an nine iron? How is that possible? Oh?

913
01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:19.079
Amazing to me. They are simply
amazing, And you get a chance to

914
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:26.800
watch them up front, right there
in person. It's cool because it's one

915
01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:31.199
of two big golf events in the
month of June in the great state of

916
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:40.680
Michigan. Just prior to the Rocket
Mortgage Classic is the tenth Aniel Meyer Classic

917
01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:48.640
June thirteenth through the sixteenth at Blackfield
Country Club. So you've got that on

918
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:56.600
the thirteenth and sixteenth, and then
not long after twenty fifth through the thirtieth

919
01:23:57.119 --> 01:24:00.560
you get the Rocket Mortgage Classic.
If you love golf, and I think

920
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:06.600
you and I both do. If
you love golf, June's a pretty good

921
01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:16.520
time to be around this state to
gorgeous courses, to fantastic events that do

922
01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:23.079
exactly what you would hope they would
do giving back to the community. Look,

923
01:24:24.319 --> 01:24:30.960
every golf event, every sporting event
likes to claim that they do,

924
01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:34.199
and I'm sure they do. I
mean, I haven't done any investigative work

925
01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:40.560
where we're trying to figure out whether
or not they're exactly giving you. Teams

926
01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:43.800
are giving what they're supposed to be
giving to the community when they claim it.

927
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:48.640
Rocket Mortgage Classic does that. The
tenth Daniel Meyer Classic will do that,

928
01:24:51.520 --> 01:25:00.479
and it's because you've got Michigan based
people handling it. You have Michigan

929
01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:11.159
based companies making the promise and fulfilling
it and giving back to michiganers. For

930
01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:16.560
the Rocket Mortgage Classic, it is
doing exactly what Jason just told us and

931
01:25:16.600 --> 01:25:20.319
trying to get the Wi Fi to
everybody, for example. I know it

932
01:25:20.359 --> 01:25:24.399
doesn't seem like much, but it
is. It's a big deal. And

933
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for the Meyer Classic, it's about
getting people the necessities from a food standpoint

934
01:25:31.479 --> 01:25:38.680
in life. It's given back.
God, I love that. It's so

935
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cool, so important, so needed, and you should all be very proud

936
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of it. It's fantastic stuff.
Our phone number on the Meyer hotline eight

937
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sixty six eight three eight forty eight
forty three. Our text line is sports

938
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Radio to twenty one thousand are thanks
to Jason langwell for joining us, and

939
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:01.640
we wish them the very best.
That's a good start to the It's a

940
01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:06.279
really good start to the field,
okay, because as he mentioned, everyone's

941
01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:09.560
going to play in the majors or
want to play in the majors, and

942
01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:12.960
you've got to be good enough to
qualify. But and then you've got certain

943
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places because you're going to start the
year in Hawaii and California and Florida,

944
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and you're gonna go to Texas and
Arizona and places like that. How do

945
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the other areas that don't have that
sunshine in eighty five degree weather just about

946
01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:31.159
year round, how do they draw
you? Well, this is one way.

947
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And when you start with Ricky Fowler, big name will Zelatorus, big

948
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:40.319
name Tom Kim, eventually will be
a big name, but a decent sized

949
01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:44.039
name. Right now, that's a
good jumping off point. So we hope

950
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they get even more and more are
taking a note of what this area has

951
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to offer. Again, the Meyer
Hotline eight six six eight three eight forty

952
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the program Sports Radio to twenty one thousand,

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need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats

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in here looking in the mirror.
I look good. I got my extra

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bands on, I got my other
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need no meals, we don't need
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Way out a detain. Oh you're
not. At the time, we weren't

997
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good. There's no sense of asking
me things about the game. I'm telling

998
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you we laid an egg. So
I'm not gonna break it down for you.

999
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He sucks. He sucked. He
laid an egg. That's all i

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have to say. Guys, I'm
sorry. I'm not going to break it

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down for you. Nothing went well
for us. It's on us. We

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have to figure it out and we
will. We need your dad. Why

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hotline. Ben is waiting for your phone

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01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:08.880
call eight sixty six eight three,
eight forty eight forty three, or you

1007
01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:11.840
can text him at sports Ready to
twenty one thousand, and then then gives

1008
01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:15.840
us those texts and we talked about
anything that might be on your mind.

1009
01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:19.239
I'm Matt Shepard. Yankee sweep the
Tigers behind a five to two, eight

1010
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:24.199
inning win. Aaron Judge homeward in
the first Juan Soto with the bases loaded,

1011
01:31:24.239 --> 01:31:28.079
clearing double. In the seventh Shelby
Miller takes the lost. He has

1012
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:38.199
quickly becoming Tigers fans enemy's too strong. He's a guy that they're starting to

1013
01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:44.479
question a little bit. To try
to get Cleveland in a series starting tonight,

1014
01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:47.359
Downtown Guardians get a four to one
win over the Angels behind two two

1015
01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:54.399
run homers, one from Jose Ramirez, underrated player phenomenal and Josh Naylor.

1016
01:31:55.920 --> 01:32:00.560
If you're the Tigers and you could
have one guy right now, who would

1017
01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:06.159
fix your power, fix your defense, fix a little bit of speed,

1018
01:32:06.520 --> 01:32:14.039
and play a position that you need, who would it be? Who would

1019
01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:19.119
it be? Something to think about. I've got a name for you.

1020
01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:24.399
Not that you're gonna do much about
it, but I've got a name for

1021
01:32:24.439 --> 01:32:29.520
you. I want to hear who
you might have eight six, six,

1022
01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:31.359
eight three eight forty eight forty three. All right Caves beat the Magic in

1023
01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:36.199
Game seven one O six ninety four
Donovan Mitchell with thirty nine. Every time

1024
01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:42.199
you hear Donovan Mitchell, you go
ah. Could have been a piston taken

1025
01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:45.399
right after Luke Kennard. Anyway,
he scored fifty. In the game six

1026
01:32:45.479 --> 01:32:47.319
loss, he scored thirty nine.
In the Game seven win. He had

1027
01:32:47.359 --> 01:32:53.399
eighty nine points in Game six and
seven combined, the second most in NBA

1028
01:32:53.479 --> 01:33:00.640
playoff history too, Allen Iverson.
Iverson had ninety in a game six game

1029
01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:05.920
seven situation when he was with the
Sixers. It's the largest comeback in a

1030
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:12.039
Game seven since nineteen ninety seven,
being that Cleveland was down eighteen at one

1031
01:33:12.079 --> 01:33:16.800
point. Meanwhile, hopefully not lost
In all this is Palo Bancaro on what

1032
01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:21.000
BNKO had did for Orlando in the
loss with thirty eight points. He's a

1033
01:33:21.039 --> 01:33:26.159
phenomenal player. I think he's better
now than he was a Duke, don't

1034
01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:29.840
you. I watched him at Duke
and I thought, you know, people

1035
01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:31.199
are talking about this guy is number
one. I watched him a lot.

1036
01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:35.840
I didn't I didn't see it.
Now you see it. My goodness.

1037
01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:44.439
Rangers beat the Hurricanes four to three
in Game one of their series because Avanajad

1038
01:33:44.479 --> 01:33:47.319
had two goals and assist, and
the Vegas and Stars wrapped up their series

1039
01:33:47.359 --> 01:33:51.560
in Game seven last night in Dallas, the Stars winning two one. They

1040
01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:57.199
were down two ZIP in that series. Peter de Boor now eight to zero

1041
01:33:57.239 --> 01:34:02.319
all time coaching. In Game seven, Canada beat Team USA in the U

1042
01:34:02.359 --> 01:34:08.119
eighteen sixty four to win Gold Brooks
Kopka wins the Live Golf Tournament in Singapore.

1043
01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:13.960
Taylor Pendrith wins the Byron Nelson,
his first PGA win. Speaking of

1044
01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:19.720
golf, and we just got done
talking about the Rocket Mortgage Classic with Jason

1045
01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:26.239
Longwell, the executive director. Did
you see the article about Tiger Woods and

1046
01:34:26.279 --> 01:34:31.159
his new apparel? Have you seen
how much it's going for We all like

1047
01:34:31.239 --> 01:34:33.840
to look good, no matter what. My dad used to have a saying,

1048
01:34:34.319 --> 01:34:38.159
you gotta look good if you want
to play good, look good,

1049
01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:43.159
to play feel good, look good, play good, right, so look

1050
01:34:43.239 --> 01:34:48.239
sharp when you can't so in golf. I don't know about you, but

1051
01:34:48.359 --> 01:34:51.960
when I go into a golf shop, it's hard to leave without buying something.

1052
01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:59.960
And I don't mean golf balls.
So many cool shirts, shorts,

1053
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:04.880
belts. I want more golf shoes
because you like to match, you like

1054
01:35:04.920 --> 01:35:06.960
to coordinate, you like to look
good. You're not showing up at a

1055
01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:12.840
golf course, I hope with a
hoodie and jeans, right, But there

1056
01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:17.439
is a limit. I played golf
last week with my sons and I needed

1057
01:35:17.439 --> 01:35:25.680
a ballmarker or a green repair picked
up a cool red, white and blue

1058
01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:30.560
buzz stars and stripes, and it
cost me I think ten bucks something like

1059
01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:33.680
that wasn't bad. I look at
certain shirts and I think, I think

1060
01:35:33.720 --> 01:35:39.920
part of it is I know the
markup is astronomical and it bothers me that

1061
01:35:40.319 --> 01:35:43.840
people are going to make that much
money off me. But certain things you

1062
01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:49.079
want to buy. Everybody has a
limit. I would hope the Tiger Woods

1063
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:56.680
new line since he's no longer with
Nike. He signed with Nike in nineteen

1064
01:35:56.760 --> 01:36:00.039
ninety six when he turned pro right
out of Stanford. He was with that

1065
01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:04.840
brand for twenty seven years, remember, and they had the tw logo.

1066
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:14.720
A lot of people wore it.
It was synonymous with golf. He and

1067
01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:17.279
Michael Jordan with those massive Nike deals. Now, Caitlin Clark's got a big

1068
01:36:17.319 --> 01:36:24.279
deal. Well since that time,
or since he left Nike, he now

1069
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:31.800
has his own luxury clothing line,
if you will. I think it's called

1070
01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:39.279
sun Day Red, not Sunday but
sun as u n then another word day

1071
01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:45.079
than red, and it's a play
on from when he wore red on Sundays.

1072
01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:50.399
You know, well, he's got
fifteen majors. So what it has

1073
01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:57.000
is if the logo, it's a
tiger with fifteen stripes to signify his fifteen

1074
01:36:57.039 --> 01:37:00.640
major championships. I don't know who
came up with it. Maybe it was

1075
01:37:00.720 --> 01:37:05.439
him. I'm not sure. What
if he wins another then what happens?

1076
01:37:05.439 --> 01:37:14.039
But whatever, how much are you
willing to pay his Polos Short sleep polos

1077
01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:20.319
started one hundred and twenty dollars and
go up to one seventy five. Shorts

1078
01:37:20.359 --> 01:37:30.439
with that logo start at one hundred
thirty five dollars. Ball markers with that

1079
01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:40.680
logo cost fifty bucks. Now,
before I tell you, I would never

1080
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:45.239
pay that for any of those,
and I wouldn't. Let me remind you

1081
01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:54.800
this. The ballmarkers are sold out. Fifty bucks for a ball marker and

1082
01:37:54.840 --> 01:38:02.119
it's sold out. Why, I'm
not saying you should get one of those

1083
01:38:02.119 --> 01:38:06.239
free plastic ones that have a little
nub and stick in the ground, or

1084
01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:13.479
the one off your golf glove from
foot Joy. I'm all for making a

1085
01:38:13.520 --> 01:38:16.920
statement, I'm all for looking the
part. That's fine, it's cool,

1086
01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:28.319
But fifty bucks to me, that's
pretty steep. Five bucks I could see

1087
01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:30.800
maybe ten. We're just talking about
a ball marker. You're on the green.

1088
01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:34.000
I know we don't find it very
often. But you're on the green

1089
01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:42.079
and you're marking your ball from behind, that's fifty bucks right there. A

1090
01:38:42.119 --> 01:38:46.079
lot of public courses and decent public
courses. It costs a round. That's

1091
01:38:46.079 --> 01:38:54.279
a round of golf that you're paying
for your ball marker. Man, that's

1092
01:38:54.319 --> 01:39:00.760
a lot that bothers me. Like
Tiger Woods has got more, he'll ever

1093
01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:03.319
know what to do with his son
Charlie and his daughter. I mean,

1094
01:39:03.399 --> 01:39:08.239
they're taking care for the rest of
their lives. His grandkids, grandkids are

1095
01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:14.840
taking care for the rest of their
lives. Do you really have to charge

1096
01:39:14.840 --> 01:39:20.159
that? And that's off his website. By the way, if you go

1097
01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:26.239
into a pro shop or you go
into a golf store, it might be

1098
01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:31.319
even more. How about appealing to
the people you really want to help young

1099
01:39:31.399 --> 01:39:36.960
kids grow the game and all that
make something that's affordable for them. Give

1100
01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:42.039
them a chance to wear your stuff, but not break the bank and break

1101
01:39:42.079 --> 01:39:45.880
their entire paycheck for doing it.
We've got texts on the other side.

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You can text sports Radio to twenty
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There really are a stunning number of
very good, two great hitters who just

1110
01:40:21.199 --> 01:40:25.920
aren't hitting right now. The lowest
ops had any regular belongs to the Tigers

1111
01:40:25.960 --> 01:40:29.760
Cold Key. Next lowest the ex
Tiger, Nick Costianos. Then comes Randi

1112
01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:31.520
your Rose Arena. Last year's n
OL Rookie of the Year, Corban Carol

1113
01:40:31.560 --> 01:40:34.720
had sixty five extra base hits last
year. He has four so far this

1114
01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:38.479
year, and he's hitting one ninety
Yondi Diaz has been argued to be one

1115
01:40:38.520 --> 01:40:40.920
of the top two hitters in the
American League the last two years. He's

1116
01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:44.359
hitting two twenty with no power.
The list goes on at Santra Bogart's Alex

1117
01:40:44.399 --> 01:40:47.680
Bregman, Paul Goltchman, and the
sensational Julio Rodriguez all low average and shockingly

1118
01:40:47.720 --> 01:40:51.199
low power numbers. It's a reminder
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I know we got some texts too, from sports Radio to twenty one thousand

1132
01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:27.159
Ben fire Away. Who do we
got? Yeah? It says if it

1133
01:42:27.199 --> 01:42:30.800
was a Nicholas line, would you
buy it? Just asking people generally buy

1134
01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:35.720
what and who they really like.
I think Patrick Reid can charge those prices.

1135
01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:40.279
No, I would not buy it
if it was a Nicholas line.

1136
01:42:40.319 --> 01:42:43.760
I wouldn't buy it if it was
a Patrick Reid line, and I'm not

1137
01:42:43.800 --> 01:42:46.359
going to buy it if it's Tiger
Woods. I like Tiger Woods. I

1138
01:42:46.359 --> 01:42:49.760
mean I think there's I think there's
things that Tiger Woods does that I mean

1139
01:42:49.880 --> 01:42:56.199
kind of holds the that the media
kind of cow too's too. But I've

1140
01:42:56.239 --> 01:43:01.000
said time and time again numerous times, one of the great athletes ever.

1141
01:43:02.479 --> 01:43:08.880
His run, what he was able
to do just unbelievable. I happen to

1142
01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:12.079
think Jack Nicholas is the greatest golfer
of all time. If it's one,

1143
01:43:12.119 --> 01:43:15.319
A, one B, it's right
there. That's debatable. There's plenty of

1144
01:43:15.359 --> 01:43:17.640
people who probably disagree with me.
That's okay, got no problem with that.

1145
01:43:17.720 --> 01:43:21.159
I like Tiger Woods. I think
I've always said this about Tiger Woods,

1146
01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:26.399
have said it about Michael Jordan.
I've said it about Wing Gretzky.

1147
01:43:27.640 --> 01:43:33.680
What I give them so much credit
for doing is they face the media every

1148
01:43:33.760 --> 01:43:40.399
time the media wants them every single
time. It doesn't matter whether the Tiger

1149
01:43:40.399 --> 01:43:44.239
Woods makes the cutter doesn't, whether
he wins the tournament and finishes last,

1150
01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:49.520
which doesn't happen very often, whether
or not he had the best round of

1151
01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:54.560
the day or the worst round of
the day, the media wants to hear

1152
01:43:54.640 --> 01:43:59.760
from him. And for the most
part, I don't know about every single

1153
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:06.960
time, but for the most part
he obliges Michael Jordan whether he was the

1154
01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:10.720
best player on the floor or not, and more oftentimes than not, he

1155
01:44:10.880 --> 01:44:17.119
was. And the same thing with
Wayne Gretzky. Two goals or no goals,

1156
01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:20.880
to assists or no assists, win
or a loss, people wanted to

1157
01:44:20.880 --> 01:44:26.159
hear from him. They faced the
music every time that I could tell.

1158
01:44:26.680 --> 01:44:31.079
That's pretty damn good. That's impressive. But when it comes to something like

1159
01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:34.600
that, no, it's not happening. I'm just I wouldn't do it.

1160
01:44:34.920 --> 01:44:42.520
But that's just me. I'm not
saying that you're foolish. If you do

1161
01:44:42.680 --> 01:44:48.359
go ahead. For me, it's
I choose to spend the money on something

1162
01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:50.920
else. It just seems like a
lot of money. That's all. For

1163
01:44:51.000 --> 01:44:55.439
a ball marker to cost fifty bucks, I think is outrageous. But we

1164
01:44:55.479 --> 01:44:58.760
all have a line that we don't
want to cross, and for me that

1165
01:44:58.800 --> 01:45:00.960
would be that would be one of
them. What else we got? Ben?

1166
01:45:01.239 --> 01:45:10.319
Yeah? It says when will kid
elevate his team like Vincaro? Yeah?

1167
01:45:10.520 --> 01:45:18.279
I kind of figured that would that
was coming. Can a player force

1168
01:45:18.359 --> 01:45:28.560
another player to shoot the ball better
in a game? Who's got a better

1169
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:34.000
roster? The magic or the pistons. It's pretty obvious, isn't it.

1170
01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:42.039
Now? Look in fairness, if
you wanted to play that game, then

1171
01:45:42.119 --> 01:45:45.520
use this example. As good as
Paula Bonkarral was yesterday and he had thirty

1172
01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:50.000
eight points, he had a double
double, he was phenomenal, Franz Wagner

1173
01:45:50.079 --> 01:45:57.880
went one for fifteen. How come
he didn't elevate him to win Game seven?

1174
01:45:59.279 --> 01:46:02.880
I'm not blaming Hollo ban Carl for
Franz Wagner's struggles. That's not fair.

1175
01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:11.439
I think Kate Cunningham's a really good
player. I think he's a guy

1176
01:46:11.479 --> 01:46:15.119
I would definitely keep a guy I
would want a round. Can he elevate

1177
01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:19.600
other players. Maybe that's the question
that remains to be seen because he has

1178
01:46:19.680 --> 01:46:27.760
not. It doesn't seem like he
and Jaden Ivy work very well together in

1179
01:46:27.800 --> 01:46:30.840
the backcourt. I understood why they
took Jade and Ivy. I'm just telling

1180
01:46:30.880 --> 01:46:35.920
you from from my perspective. Maybe
you disagree, Maybe you share this belief

1181
01:46:35.960 --> 01:46:42.720
that it doesn't seem like they mesh
very well. I don't think Kate Cuttingham's

1182
01:46:43.039 --> 01:46:51.279
Kate Cunningham has very good players around
him. That's the simplistic way. In

1183
01:46:51.319 --> 01:46:56.760
sports, it's a little bit easier. I think this can be very kind

1184
01:46:56.760 --> 01:47:00.640
of complicated. This can be I
mean, in football, for example,

1185
01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:03.520
can a quarterback make a receiver better? Yeah? I mean you throw them

1186
01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:12.600
in certain spots? Right, you
make sure that you're throwing them to in

1187
01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:15.119
the certain routes, which is more
the offensive coordator than the quarterback. But

1188
01:47:15.319 --> 01:47:19.039
putting it in a certain area,
Yeah, that's that's making a player better.

1189
01:47:19.720 --> 01:47:24.399
Can a quarterback make an offensive line
better? And you got to if

1190
01:47:24.399 --> 01:47:27.640
the offensive line isn't great at protecting, you probably have to do what make

1191
01:47:28.239 --> 01:47:33.399
quicker throws? Right? In all
likelihood, I don't know if that's the

1192
01:47:33.479 --> 01:47:42.840
quarterback making the offensive line look better
hockey player, I can't make you.

1193
01:47:43.560 --> 01:47:45.520
Last night Las Vegas, for example, Jack Eichel, who's a really good

1194
01:47:45.520 --> 01:47:48.359
player at his assistant captain for Las
Vegas, a big reason why they won

1195
01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:53.960
the Stanley couple of years ago,
he missed an open net, backhanded opportunity

1196
01:47:53.960 --> 01:47:56.680
that would have given them a two
to one lead. He missed it in

1197
01:47:56.720 --> 01:48:06.199
the lighting later stages of the third
Okay, is that Jonathan Marcissol's fault that

1198
01:48:06.520 --> 01:48:13.399
he or Mark Stone's fault? No, I don't think so. I think

1199
01:48:13.479 --> 01:48:17.399
Pan Carroll makes other players better on
his team, but I think a lot

1200
01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:24.319
of those players are already better than
members of the Pistons. If you follow

1201
01:48:24.359 --> 01:48:30.199
that now, you may not agree
with that, because maybe we're too close,

1202
01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:36.840
way too close to the situation in
Detroit. But if you look at

1203
01:48:36.840 --> 01:48:46.199
the Pistons and you see their team, and how many of those guys do

1204
01:48:46.279 --> 01:48:53.000
you look at and you say are
really important to keep and other teams may

1205
01:48:53.039 --> 01:49:02.439
want, And then you look at
the Magic I like Jalen Suggs. I

1206
01:49:02.439 --> 01:49:08.159
think he's a good player. He
was two for thirteen yesterday. I think

1207
01:49:08.199 --> 01:49:13.600
Franz Wagner has had a really good
season. He's still a young player.

1208
01:49:13.880 --> 01:49:16.000
He's only twenty two, and he
averaged twenty points a game this year.

1209
01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:21.159
But he went one for fifteen.
Is that Pallo Bonco's fault? See,

1210
01:49:21.159 --> 01:49:27.119
you're giving bon Carol credit for winning
forty seven games, and he's a He's

1211
01:49:27.199 --> 01:49:34.079
the primary reason. Sonomeno love the
upside. Thirty eight points, sixteen rebounds,

1212
01:49:34.199 --> 01:49:38.880
ten of twenty eight from the floor. Would you take it? You

1213
01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:45.960
bet? But it's not his fault
that Wagner went one for fifteen, Suggs

1214
01:49:45.039 --> 01:49:53.960
went two for thirteen. I mean, who else would you want from that

1215
01:49:54.119 --> 01:49:58.600
team? You want Moe Wagner?
He was Eh, he's kind of a

1216
01:49:58.720 --> 01:50:02.720
role player. Markel fully who was
first overall back in his draft class.

1217
01:50:03.039 --> 01:50:08.479
No, they've got still a ways
to go, but they're better than Detroit.

1218
01:50:09.399 --> 01:50:14.760
You would admit that for sure,
and it's primarily because bon Carroll and

1219
01:50:14.960 --> 01:50:18.159
bon Carroll stayed healthy. I think
he's a better player than Caid Cunningham,

1220
01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:29.760
and you would agree with that.
Now maybe you're arguing this look at Donovan

1221
01:50:29.840 --> 01:50:35.399
Mitchell shop, is Cleveland really that
good? Not Without Donovan Mitchell, they're

1222
01:50:35.439 --> 01:50:41.039
not. But they were missing Jared
Allen yesterday, who averaged a double double

1223
01:50:41.079 --> 01:50:44.279
against Orlando this year but has missed
the last three games with you know,

1224
01:50:44.680 --> 01:50:49.039
brused ribs or bad ribs anyway.
They won't get into specifics. I do

1225
01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:55.199
think it's a fair question. I'm
just thinking about it. Wonder what your

1226
01:50:55.239 --> 01:51:00.760
thoughts are, Caid Cunningham. Does
he not make other players aroun him better?

1227
01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:03.199
Certain guys have gotten better. Are
you going to give the credit to

1228
01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:06.319
him? Or are you going to
give him the blame if they're not getting

1229
01:51:06.399 --> 01:51:12.439
better? Phone number on the Meyer
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opinions on everything you're talking about. All

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01:53:50.800 --> 01:53:55.479
right back with you on exus and
Bros. Glad you're with us. Appreciate

1255
01:53:55.600 --> 01:54:01.199
all your techs so far here this
morning on a Monday, including the last

1256
01:54:01.239 --> 01:54:05.279
one about Kate Cunningham trying to elevate
his team or why doesn't he do it

1257
01:54:05.439 --> 01:54:11.399
like Pallo Bancaro of Orlando. I
just don't think he has as good as

1258
01:54:11.439 --> 01:54:16.880
teammates as in players, players aren't
as good. I know that sounds simplistic

1259
01:54:17.039 --> 01:54:21.800
and maybe it's not fair. Look, I've said this a lot over the

1260
01:54:21.920 --> 01:54:30.880
years. When you look at players, who makes the other better? Can

1261
01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:38.560
they help each other? My favorite
is the Joe Montana Jerry Rice is either

1262
01:54:38.720 --> 01:54:43.680
one of those Hall of famers,
and you can argue that Rice is the

1263
01:54:43.720 --> 01:54:47.640
best wide receiver of all time,
and you can argue Montana's the greatest quarterback

1264
01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:53.039
of all time. They each helped
each other, didn't they? And when

1265
01:54:53.119 --> 01:54:57.439
Montana moved on or when he was
hurt Rice was equally effective with Steve Young

1266
01:54:57.479 --> 01:55:01.479
at quarterback. But Montana did lead
Kansas City to an AAFC title game when

1267
01:55:01.520 --> 01:55:10.319
he left San Francisco, so it's
not like he was chopped Liver Matthew Stafford,

1268
01:55:10.560 --> 01:55:15.239
Calvin Johnson, Matthew Stafford, Golden
Tate, Matthew Stafford, Brandon Pettigrew,

1269
01:55:15.720 --> 01:55:18.199
all those things. We brought that
up quite a bit. Who makes

1270
01:55:18.239 --> 01:55:23.239
who better? I mean, Chris
Durham had over forty catches. You never

1271
01:55:23.319 --> 01:55:30.920
heard of him before or after.
Matthew Stafford, a no name, had

1272
01:55:30.960 --> 01:55:35.720
a decent season, so obviously he
made him better. Calvin Johnson made Matthew

1273
01:55:35.760 --> 01:55:42.439
Stafford better too, and vice versa. Ask him, they'll both tell you

1274
01:55:42.600 --> 01:55:50.039
that, and that's cool. Did
Michael Jordan make Scottie Pippen and Bill Cartwright

1275
01:55:50.279 --> 01:55:56.359
and bj Armstrong and Will Purdue and
Luke Longley all those guys? Did he

1276
01:55:56.439 --> 01:56:02.319
make them better? Cliff Livingston a
great player like that would make anybody better,

1277
01:56:02.319 --> 01:56:10.880
wouldn't they? But he was?
They weren't great right away. Jordan

1278
01:56:11.119 --> 01:56:17.439
was, but his team wasn't.
John Paxson Was he better because of Michael

1279
01:56:17.520 --> 01:56:20.920
Jordan? Was Steve Kerr better?
As a player because of Michael Jordan.

1280
01:56:21.239 --> 01:56:26.039
I would have to say yes,
because Jordan draws a certain amount of tension

1281
01:56:26.319 --> 01:56:29.399
and is able to kick to those
guys and they are a little bit more

1282
01:56:29.439 --> 01:56:31.239
wide open they would than they would
have been had Jordan not been on the

1283
01:56:31.279 --> 01:56:35.399
floor. I think that's a fair
assumption. I don't have all the logistics

1284
01:56:35.479 --> 01:56:39.680
and all the analytics and numbers with
it, but I think it's a fair

1285
01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:45.680
assumption. How do we know that
Kid Cunningham's not doing the same but guys

1286
01:56:45.720 --> 01:56:51.680
are missing shots, or Kid Cunningham
is getting to the rim and laying it

1287
01:56:51.760 --> 01:56:59.800
off and a guy is fumbling it
out of bounds. I guess I'm hesitant

1288
01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:06.880
to suggest that Kid Cunningham isn't making
his players better when I haven't seen those

1289
01:57:06.960 --> 01:57:15.760
players collectively now make a great jump
from one year to the next. Like

1290
01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:20.920
if you've listened to the show,
you know I like Jalen Duran, and

1291
01:57:21.720 --> 01:57:27.960
I think Kate Cunningham is is good
enough to be a leader on this team.

1292
01:57:28.199 --> 01:57:34.800
And I like Kate Cunningham. Everybody
else I'm open to to moving on

1293
01:57:38.800 --> 01:57:41.279
now. There are certain guys I
wouldn't mind coming off the bench, like

1294
01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:45.359
Simone Fontechio. That's I'm fine with
that. Marcus Sasser coming off the bench.

1295
01:57:45.479 --> 01:57:55.479
Sure limit their mins minutes? Absolutely? Another text, Ben fire Away.

1296
01:57:55.560 --> 01:57:58.600
Yeah, last one I says,
does Van Gundy get credit for taking

1297
01:57:59.079 --> 01:58:03.159
Dinwoodie in the second round when his
first draft has no first rounder? Gore

1298
01:58:03.279 --> 01:58:09.520
screwed Van Gundy by resigning Drummond and
making that Blake trade. Does Van Gundy

1299
01:58:09.600 --> 01:58:14.239
get credit for the great trade of
Brandon Jennings from Milwaukee before he got hurt?

1300
01:58:17.439 --> 01:58:19.840
Okay, hold on a second,
I need to take that a little

1301
01:58:19.880 --> 01:58:25.920
bit, yeah, a little bit
more slowly. Does Van Gundy get credit

1302
01:58:27.439 --> 01:58:33.520
for drafting Spencer Dinwitty in the second
round? Is that? Is that?

1303
01:58:33.600 --> 01:58:39.079
What that? The tech said?
I'm sorry, yeah, that is okay,

1304
01:58:39.399 --> 01:58:45.760
Well, Spencer Dinwitty correct me if
I'm wrong here. All right,

1305
01:58:46.560 --> 01:58:56.800
But Spencer Dinwiddy didn't stick with the
Pistons, He didn't have his success with

1306
01:58:56.960 --> 01:59:12.079
the Pistons. Spencer DINWITTI success came
after forty six games with Detroit. That's

1307
01:59:12.159 --> 01:59:20.119
when he got successful. Okay?
Was that? I think that was Stan

1308
01:59:20.199 --> 01:59:29.159
van Gundy's first draft twenty fourteen,
right, Why am I going to give

1309
01:59:29.800 --> 01:59:35.720
him credit for drafting Spencer Dinwiddie in
the second round and then getting rid of

1310
01:59:35.840 --> 01:59:42.399
him when he turned out to be
a good player. Why would I do

1311
01:59:42.520 --> 01:59:47.039
that? No way. I get
the sense you think that I have it

1312
01:59:47.119 --> 01:59:50.039
in for stan Van Gundy a little
bit. Damn right, I do.

1313
01:59:53.359 --> 01:59:58.159
I think he was horrible, horrible. Let me ask you this real quick.

1314
01:59:59.600 --> 02:00:08.760
Would you take Spencer Dinwiddie or Jeremy
Grant or Nikola Jokic ranked those three

1315
02:00:08.840 --> 02:00:15.279
players in order? If he's that
smart, if he's that good, why

1316
02:00:15.319 --> 02:00:17.960
didn't he take Jeremy Grant who went
right after him. If he's that smart

1317
02:00:18.319 --> 02:00:24.119
and he's that good at recognizing talent, why didn't he take Nikola Jokic,

1318
02:00:24.720 --> 02:00:31.279
who has taken three picks after Spencer
Dinwitty. The answer is no, I'm

1319
02:00:31.359 --> 02:00:41.319
not giving him credit for that.
He screwed it up. Not only did

1320
02:00:41.359 --> 02:00:44.119
he not take the right guy.
If you think he took the right guy,

1321
02:00:44.479 --> 02:00:48.399
he got rid of him, sent
him to Brooklyn, and when he

1322
02:00:48.520 --> 02:00:57.000
did have him, didn't even play
him. You don't want to play him

1323
02:00:57.039 --> 02:01:01.199
at age twenty one, even though
you did thirty four games. That's fine,

1324
02:01:02.479 --> 02:01:06.520
go ahead, because it's not like
your team was all that great.

1325
02:01:06.560 --> 02:01:13.159
Anyway, let's go to the phone
lines and the Meyer hotline eight sixty six

1326
02:01:13.239 --> 02:01:15.720
eight three, eight forty eight forty
three. Yeah, we got Danny and

1327
02:01:15.800 --> 02:01:20.840
Brighton. Hey Danny, how are
you, Bud? Jeff goodbring my man?

1328
02:01:20.880 --> 02:01:24.239
How are we doing today? Good
yourself? Hope you had a good

1329
02:01:24.239 --> 02:01:29.600
weekend. Every day, every day, my friend, is a holiday.

1330
02:01:29.760 --> 02:01:32.319
So you know, I'm listening to
your talking and it's interesting the whole.

1331
02:01:32.680 --> 02:01:38.359
I mean, I am not a
basketball NBA fan and all, but I

1332
02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:41.159
mean I follow it. But the
thing I found interesting and you were just

1333
02:01:41.239 --> 02:01:45.199
talking about stan Van Gundy and I
think obviously I think that spills over to

1334
02:01:45.880 --> 02:01:49.319
Troy Weaver as well. It's the
whole idea of like you know, roster

1335
02:01:49.600 --> 02:01:55.079
construction. And I think that was
like Juwan Howard's downfall at Michigan is like

1336
02:01:55.399 --> 02:01:59.600
I'm just getting this name. I'm
getting this name, and you know Weaver

1337
02:01:59.720 --> 02:02:01.119
and and gonna do the same people, We're just gonna get this name.

1338
02:02:01.359 --> 02:02:04.079
Well, how does this guy fit
on your team? What is this guy

1339
02:02:04.239 --> 02:02:09.560
gonna do? And you know,
just as a comparison, I think that's

1340
02:02:09.640 --> 02:02:13.640
what Brad Holmes is amazing at.
He's like, you know what you know

1341
02:02:13.840 --> 02:02:17.880
for three years he's picking people in
there were people actually criticized getting you know,

1342
02:02:18.039 --> 02:02:24.000
Jamiir Gibbs or Jack Campbell or Sam
Laporta and Kilms like they fit.

1343
02:02:24.600 --> 02:02:29.079
So now whatever Brad Holmes drafts.
If Brad Holmes drafts Ben, I'm like,

1344
02:02:29.199 --> 02:02:32.319
you know what he's gonna need for
Ben? But if Troy Weaver drafts

1345
02:02:32.399 --> 02:02:35.520
Ben, I'm like, what are
you doing? Because of his record?

1346
02:02:35.640 --> 02:02:39.920
And and like, okay, I've
got all these guys, what are they

1347
02:02:40.039 --> 02:02:45.079
doing? And one of my frustrations
with trying to watch the Pistons as you

1348
02:02:45.159 --> 02:02:49.880
compare them to teams like Cleveland and
Orlando who were in Oklahoma City, who

1349
02:02:49.920 --> 02:02:54.600
were in similar situations four or five
years ago. All seams are so much

1350
02:02:54.680 --> 02:03:01.560
better than us now because they were
able to identify the right players. It's

1351
02:03:01.640 --> 02:03:06.920
it's an underrated part of being a
general manager. I don't think like I

1352
02:03:08.199 --> 02:03:11.640
don't think First of all, I
don't think Sam Van Gundy's was a very

1353
02:03:11.640 --> 02:03:14.279
good coach, But I thought he
was a worst general manager. I mean,

1354
02:03:14.359 --> 02:03:16.479
I think he's as bad as Matt
Millen was at his job, all

1355
02:03:16.560 --> 02:03:24.399
right, so he in other words, he's not playing Spencer Dinwiddie, but

1356
02:03:24.600 --> 02:03:29.279
he's playing Jody Meeks. Okay,
makes a lot of sense, Go right

1357
02:03:29.279 --> 02:03:32.479
ahead, and his team won what
what were they? Twenty eight twenty nine

1358
02:03:32.520 --> 02:03:38.119
wins? You know that that first
year under stan Van Gundy, recognizing how

1359
02:03:38.279 --> 02:03:45.039
pieces fit with the other key pieces
is so vital. And then it's up

1360
02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:48.039
to your coach to be able to
be A on the same page and B

1361
02:03:49.239 --> 02:03:55.159
make sure you're putting those players in
a position to be successful. In other

1362
02:03:55.199 --> 02:03:58.239
words, you're not gonna play him
too much. You're gonna play him the

1363
02:03:58.279 --> 02:04:01.720
right amount. You're not gonna play
in hockey, not going to play certain

1364
02:04:01.800 --> 02:04:08.920
defensemen against certain lines because they're effective
against these lines. Right Brad Holmes is

1365
02:04:09.279 --> 02:04:14.239
brilliant than that. And that's why
I think I trust and I don't want

1366
02:04:14.239 --> 02:04:16.279
to speak for you, but that's
why I trust that if he signs Jared

1367
02:04:16.359 --> 02:04:23.840
Goff, he knows the reason he
brought in Jared Goff, He knows who

1368
02:04:24.079 --> 02:04:28.439
Jared Goff is. How does he
protect him with a really good offensive line,

1369
02:04:29.000 --> 02:04:31.720
How does he protect him with good
play action? Those are the things

1370
02:04:31.760 --> 02:04:35.800
that make Jared Goff successful and makes
his team successful. I don't think stan

1371
02:04:35.880 --> 02:04:42.039
Van Gundy ever figured that out with
the Detroit Pistons. Ever, No,

1372
02:04:42.239 --> 02:04:45.600
I agree, And like I said, he was like the start of the

1373
02:04:45.680 --> 02:04:49.800
demise that continues today. And when
you think about roster, so you know,

1374
02:04:50.159 --> 02:04:56.159
I'll go my whole Detroit spiel from
and I think I kind of still

1375
02:04:56.199 --> 02:05:00.319
you know, I'm still optimistic about
the Tigers because I get this sense that

1376
02:05:00.399 --> 02:05:03.279
Scott Harrison knows this is the kind
of player I want. Now, some

1377
02:05:03.439 --> 02:05:08.000
of the guys that are on the
roster right now, they're not necessarily delivering,

1378
02:05:08.399 --> 02:05:12.319
but they have a history from their
past, like the Miners College or

1379
02:05:12.319 --> 02:05:15.920
whatever that they can so like,
Okay, well they're young, I'll give

1380
02:05:15.960 --> 02:05:17.960
them time. Eisen was the same
way. You know, I'm going to

1381
02:05:18.000 --> 02:05:21.479
put these young guys in. The
only criticism with Iresman is he was like,

1382
02:05:21.800 --> 02:05:26.680
I think Detroit could have had a
couple of other young guys that were

1383
02:05:26.720 --> 02:05:32.560
in Grand Rapids, namely Jonathan Bergrian
and Simon Editson all year. Those guys

1384
02:05:32.560 --> 02:05:36.239
should have been on the roster from
day one. They would have benefited immensely

1385
02:05:36.319 --> 02:05:40.960
and I think the team would have
as well. Yeah, I don't disagree

1386
02:05:41.000 --> 02:05:43.199
with that. Thanks Danny, have
a great day. I appreciate the phone

1387
02:05:43.199 --> 02:05:46.399
call. The only thing I would
say is I hope so I don't know.

1388
02:05:47.000 --> 02:05:50.680
I mean, whose place are they
going to take? Were they ready

1389
02:05:50.720 --> 02:05:56.239
at that time? We don't know
that. It sure seems like it.

1390
02:05:57.159 --> 02:06:00.840
But I've got no problem with especially
hockey guys, you know, biding their

1391
02:06:00.880 --> 02:06:05.560
time a little bit and getting a
little bit more nurtured, getting the amount

1392
02:06:05.600 --> 02:06:10.239
of time that they need on the
ice in every situation, rather than coming

1393
02:06:10.359 --> 02:06:13.920
up playing on a third or fourth
line, playing on a third or fourth

1394
02:06:14.000 --> 02:06:19.079
defensive pairing and getting twelve minutes a
game. If you want to have one

1395
02:06:19.119 --> 02:06:23.399
of your young players who you think
is going to be key to your success

1396
02:06:24.159 --> 02:06:29.640
in the coming seasons for his future
and your team's future, and they're going

1397
02:06:29.680 --> 02:06:33.319
to have to play twenty two minutes
a game, I would rather have them

1398
02:06:33.439 --> 02:06:39.439
do that down in the minors,
getting twenty five to twenty six minutes a

1399
02:06:39.520 --> 02:06:48.159
game than getting twelve minutes on the
parent club. That's my opinion now,

1400
02:06:49.159 --> 02:06:54.880
because they've proven, especially Edvonson,
because he's proven that he has the ability

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to do that and help this team
as long as he stays in shape in

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the offseason, gets to work and
has a decent camp, He's sure as

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hell should come. Well, in
this case, it would be south from

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Traverse City down to Detroit. He's
sure as hell should come to Detroit and

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be a fixture on that blue line. There's no doubt about that. And

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I'm sure I speak the same language
that a lot of you are too with

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Bergeran. If he can have that
type of success, how much more does

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he have to prove? Right?
Yes? Just the only thing I would

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caution you is this, Guys get
promoted because they either they've earned it or

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you know, we're crying for it
and we want to see it constantly.

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It's a massive leap from Triple A
to the NHL, or from the AHL,

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I should say, to the NHL
and Triple A to Major League Baseball.

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It's a massive leap. Ask Cole
Keith right now because it's struggling.

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He's struggling right now. I'm not
saying give up on him by any stretch,

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no way. It doesn't shake my
confidence in him whatsoever either. I

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truly believe he is going to be
a solid hitter. I like him a

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lot. Think about it. Javey
or Bias has been around a long time.

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He struggles right now, what's he
bat in Bucks seventy seven Cole Keith

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is Bett in you know one f
Hey, these are the tough lessons that

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you're going to have to deal with
Parker Meadows under one hundred A tough lesson

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you're going to have to deal with. Do we have the patience for it?

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Probably not not when you have as
many of these guys struggling at the

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same time. That's the frustrating part, isn't it the hard thing for especially

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in baseball and hockey, since that's
what you brought up, Danny. It's

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not like it's not like football where
we watch them for three or four years

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at Michigan State or the University of
Michigan or wherever they may be. Then

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they come to your team and depending
on their round they were drafted, boom

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they're inserted. In hockey, we're
drafting at eighteen. How many times you

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know, are they going to college, are they playing in the juniors?

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What exactly are they doing? Tool
for us to monitor them, it's hard

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for how much college hockey do we
watch? You know, how much how

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much hockey do you watch in the
juniors? And then I know, the

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folks in Grand Rapids listening on WMAX
ninety six point one FM the game,

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are watching the Griffins, But how
many people in metro Detroit are watching them

1435
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and monitoring how they're doing. Not
many. Same thing with the minor leagues.

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We'll give you an update once in
a while, but it's it's hard

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to figure out sometimes who exactly is
where and how well they're doing. Right.

1438
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Yeah, that's that's a challenge.
Football it's a little different because their

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minor leagues is college hockey, so
we're sitting there watching them or college football.

1440
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I should say we're watching them on
a regular basis. I mean,

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Cole Keith came out of high school
for crying out loud when he was drafted.

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I mean, it's the same thing
with Max Clark. He's drafted,

1443
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but he's drafted out of high school
Indiana. I saw why at Langford play

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at Florida. It's a big reason
I wanted him. It was a known

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entity for me, so I'm good
with that. That's exactly what I was

1446
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hoping the Tigers would get. That's
why I was disappointed when they didn't draft

1447
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him, because I watched him,
so there was a I think there's a

1448
02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:05.439
massive difference there but it's a great
conversation to have, absolutely perfect. Does

1449
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Scott Harris, I mean, how
does he feel how does he feel about

1450
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certain guys fitting in? Look to
his credit. You bring in Mark Canna,

1451
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you bring in Jill Orchella, Jack
Flaherty kent to Maida. You feel

1452
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like you've put some veterans who've established
something in the major leagues with some of

1453
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the young guys to help them along. It's not working out, but it's

1454
02:11:26.560 --> 02:11:31.319
early on all right. We're not
at that forty game plateau just yet.

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Hey, Our thanks to Jason Langwell
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