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it doesn't the budget right, but
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into something safe and reliable. How
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three gladiators up to twenty percent below
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Well, that's a great ride the
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it's tough. You got room in
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you're running down to your your lake
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can just throw everything in the back
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about this They've got a twenty twenty
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Bistro in Winebar from the Mac of
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Victor Chrysler Dots Jeem Wram. It's
Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well,

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hello and welcome from the Sunshine State
of New York. It's right what

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a day. Oh thanks for telling
her friend about Billified. That's how we

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spread the word about the pirate ship, one at a time. Dougie fresh

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in the house. He glad to
be here. Happy Tuesday. Wow,

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what's going on? You're all energetic
today? You got your little caffeine up,

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you got uh cafe, got a
lady friend. What's happening to?

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Well, actually I met somebody last
week. You did at a DJ seminar.

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Yeah, she's seventy way wait wait
wait wait wait wait there was this

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episode. Why is it to believe? What is it? DJ seven?

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I'll just hone your skills and you
get together with other DJs I found on

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Facebook and what now? Yeah,
you're like, hey, you want to

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interact with other DJ So was a
little get Together out in Geneseo last week.

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So what kind of DJs? Like
DJ's all kinds? And well,

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yeah, yeah, she's seventy two. Is she a DJ? Yeah?

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And she DJ DJ's rap music.
Her name's bust A Hip. Is this

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all bullshit bust a Hip? Yeah? Don't you get it? Yeah?

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Did you laugh for that? You
laugh when I said I met somebody that

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was hilarious. No, but what
do you know? That's not what I

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laughed at. What I laughed at
was the DJ sevenar, I go,

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who the fuck is? I was
trying to set you up for a good

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joke, to start it out right, and wait all week half a week?

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Oh boy, that was that bombed? Oh you're used to that.

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I don't worry about that, right
exactly. No, I'm kidding, but

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I just I was trying to picture
in my head a DJ summar and I

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just fucking lost it laughing, which
is really awful because maybe there is there

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are in Vegas and then and yes, okay, so Vegas I get.

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I get because it's it's high end
club DJ stuff. But I'm talking about

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like wedding and bob mitzvah. Well, although bar Mitzva stuff I'm realizing is

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god damn is it huge? Yes? And expensive. I just saw somebody

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on Facebook. They asked me for
a recommendation about a place. Yeah,

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hold three or four hundred people and
there it's like it's crazy money. Yeah

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it is. Yeah, well I
mean that that people are paying. Yeah,

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and then it's the only Jewish music
I have is from Neil Diamond Red

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red Wine. Yeah, girl,
you'll be a woman's So you drive the

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roads of the Greater Rochester area,
Yale as a uber driver, and how

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bad are the potholes and things?
They're terrible, terrible? Just how can

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we not fix these? Okay?
So we had a guy a while back.

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I don't know if you were here
that night or not, when we

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talked to this guy who had hit
a pothole and he had about eight hundred

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dollars worth of damage done to his
car, but it was a Tesla.

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His mechanics said, I can do
this. It would cost eight hundred teslas

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that it'll be over one thousand,
and so he tried to file acclaim with

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New York State and he sent me
the letter today and I'll just read a

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portion of this section fifty eight of
the Highway law provides that the state is

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not liable for winter related defects in
the highway for incidents that occur between November

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sixteenth and April thirtieth, so anytime
after that, anytime after that supposedly.

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But they're saying, like this guy
hit a pothole in January twenty fifth,

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they're not paid. They're not paying. Yeah, that is wild, but

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I guess it makes sense. But
at the same time, it's a little

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it's just mind boggling as they get
older, where all our tax money is

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going. I mean, then you
have threw away money and it keeps going

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up and up, and then if
you didn't get the easy pass and you

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just want to do paperless or you
want to send it in, it was

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not ten times as much, but
it was significantly more. You know what's

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really sad is I A I used
to well that, but I always said,

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uh, like when I would hear
well, my tax dollars, I

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go, I don't know what my
tax dollars do, right, I can't

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say my tax do. I mean, yeah, I'm paid taxes, but

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I don't know what. I don't
know what it goes to. Teachers,

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firemen, policeman, politicians, judges. I'm just I just figure out it's

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going. It's going, it's going. I Oh, I hope it all

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it's going. Well, yeah,
I have no idea it's going great.

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So you don't have eight hundred dollars
worth whole damage. Yesterday we had an

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interesting little conversation. I thought it'd
be funny to get your take on it.

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Yeah, so some girl in a
woman in Australia is twenty seven years

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old, found out that she is
what they call it creator, a creator

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on OnlyFans. What's that? Oh, she creates. It's a nice way

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of saying she's an OnlyFans page.
So she was going through all her subscribers

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and there was a name she recognized
and it was her first cousin. So

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she confronts the first cousin. He
says, oh, now it's not me,

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it's my buddy who's married. And
he didn't want to use his credit

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card, so I I let him
use mine. But then Different I didn't

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know this, but Different OnlyFans have
various tears. So he's paying for an

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even higher one to see even more
content. And so she's very freaked out,

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grossed out by this season. At
family events and stuff, and has

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blocked him from her only fans and
all that. And I said, if

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I had a cousin, a peer, not a niece, but a peer,

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I would go look at the only
fans and then I would recreate the

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poses and take pictures and senergy.
Now, if you had a family member,

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would you check? Would you just
be like a peer. I'm not

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saying your sister, maybe your sister. I'm just saying, yeah, if

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I found out, like somebody said, hey, Doug, I think your

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cousin's yes, aren't you going to
look? No, you're not going to

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look, I would text them first, come on, they're gonna lie to

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you, Okay, then they lie. I don't think they'd lie to me.

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I would go check. You wouldn't
check a little bit? And I

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show me your face. I don't
show me your face. Well, if

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somebody hands it on their phone,
crap her body on, let me see

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her face. I don't need to
see her family member naked. So that

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might turn some people out. No, no, no no. But what

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if it's like a really hot cousin
who was adopted. What are the bylaws

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HEREO? Did you get around?
Yeah? You would get an a as

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a go I'm kidding. I just
I do think I would. I would

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be curious. I would be curious. I think my I would probably check

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it. My brother and I be
texting each other, sending it back and

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forth. You know, we'd be
having up nicknames and stuff. I mean,

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I remember a family member like I
always was shocked when my mom would

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tell a story and then be offended
that we made fun of it. Oh,

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oh, don't tell a story.
Well that's what I'm saying. Like

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she would tell a story and it
would be like with such reverence about upset,

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and she would sell it at like
the dinner table. We actually sat

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down as a family for dinner,
and she would say this at the dinner

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table, and she I don't know. There was all kinds of like there's

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somebody in the family. Uh,
a daughter had taken naked pictures and the

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dad found out, and so then
there was like a foot race to where

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they were being developed. His dad
was going down to get him because he

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wanted to kill the kid and all
this shit, and I'm going, you

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can't tell me, you can't tell
me that, no, but she says

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that they're like, guys, I'm
so worried about that and I'm going,

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wait, what huh? What photo
time full? Can I be excuselesly?

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I lived? I lived in Appalachia. These people will live far away.

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But I'm like that that's the stuff
you can't tell. I mean, I

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grew up in a house when my
father used to once in a while,

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when we were a little bit younger, he would declare it we're eating doggie

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style tonight, God yes, which
would piss my mother off because he would

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because it was just his way of
getting being dirty doggy style right, and

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it meant you could eat with no
hands, so we would just bury our

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face in the plate we had.
My mother would get so upset. I

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go, you think telling that fucking
story at that dinner table was gonna go

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anywhere? But where you make a
picture? We ate doggy style? We

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did all Did you eat old man
walking the wheelbarrow? No, I'm really

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sure. What is that? That's
that's pyramids? Yeah it is. Yeah.

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No, there was all kinds of
crap. Like my father was,

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uh read Mismanner's Guide to Perfect Etiquette. He had read the entire book,

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and he in Mismanners Guides to Perfect
Detiqette he said, there's no sound that

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emanates below the neck exists in society. So in other words, if you

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hear someone fart, flatch late pass
gas, however you want to say it,

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uh, it doesn't exist. And
so we used to sit there and

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rip farts and say nothing happened,
and my mother would get so so mad,

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and he'd be like, I don't
understand. Nothing happened. According to

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miss Manners, nothing happened. And
I'll never forget One time, man,

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I ripped one so loud, so
long at the dinner tation. My mother

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shot up, looked at me and
screamed, I don't know whether to slap

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your face or hand you a paper
towel. And that's the family you're gonna

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tell the story to about another.
It's like, come on, it was

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crazy. You didn't have that kind
of fun as a kid with your family.

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My father dressed up as Elvis.
Yeah, there was some fun in

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the family. My father just told
me two weeks ago that Moses had the

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stutter. Yes, so, yes, that was the but it was true.

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Yes, yes, it turned it
out it Yeah. Doug did not

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believe his father and went on Facebook
to find out the answer. I just

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wanted to hear people's reactions and there
was a lot of them. There was

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a lot of them. Well I
didn't know that actually, so when I

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saw it, I had to look
it up. There's a lot of human

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in our house. I mean,
just like any family. Yeah, you

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know, seriousness, bad, good, you know. Yeah, there was

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a mind too, but mine was
like there was a little bit of just

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insanity at times. I mean I
remember, I think my dad got bored

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and just like to watch. This
happened fifteen years ago. So we were

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a kitchen table with my mother,
my stepmother, my father, my stepsister

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Kelly, and myself and we had
to sign papers if anything happened to one

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of them and the other one was
incapacitated, that you'd have we'd have permission

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to tell the doctor Okay, this
is enough. And they said, do

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you think you're gonna be able to
do it? So I bent down and

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pulled a plug out of the wall, so all the legs when I go,

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yeah, not a problem. So
and then my sister pulled out a

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plug and my parents are just shaking
theirs. But I'm like, yeah,

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yeah, got it. Well,
you know that a certain I am funny.

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Sometimes some people think I'm funny.
No, I know who are they?

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Who are those people to either they
are my only fans, my cousins.

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I don't get naked. I just
till I think we got the stats

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and Only Fans last night that it
was seventy I think it's like a seventy

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twenty nine percent split on male female, and one percent that are signed up

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for it or do it well that
are yes that do it. So seventy

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percent of the people on only fans
or women, twenty nine percent or men,

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and then one percent are non binary
or whatever. But it's not all

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naked stuff on there, right,
that's the thing. There are I think

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there's cooking classes and there's different things
you can actually learn. Not a lot,

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but there's a couple balance it out. I don't know. I don't

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know how. I've never I've never
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you yes? Yeah? All right? Now, what have you seen anything?

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Because there are from what I understand, and there's some other guys like

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your old uh, your old shoe
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old shoe department employee. Uh.
He says that he knows women who are

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on only Fans. You know,
you know women who are on only fans.

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Okay, now, you son of
a bitch. Have you checked her

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out? Uh? Yes, of
course? And how well do you know

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this person? Well enough that I
got a free subscription? Wait? What

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when you're just asking me? Now? Am I supposed to come in?

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Hold on a second, you have
a free subscription? Yeah, to a

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woman's page who's trying to make money? Yeah? What are you a consultant?

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I don't know, I just a
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You're back more practice cat cow when
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art? You back? Why?
Why? I don't understand who is this

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person? Just a friend's name?
Is an acquaintance or somebody you know?

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Well, just an acquaintance, just
an acquaintance. How did you meet this

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person one of the bars I frequent? This is like three years ago?

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Okay. A friend of a friend
says, hey, that girl's got an

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only fan age and I and so
asking her A couple of the actually get

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cocker spaniel. Well, I worked
with a bunch of strippers, you know.

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So yeah, I just said,
hey, can I ask you something?

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Do you have an only fan?
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yeah I do. And then I
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before COVID. And then I ran
into her again and I asked her if

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she's still doing it, and I
talked her through social media and she sent

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me a link and just there's there
are other tiers. There's things, pictures,

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you get free, so you just
have the free stuff or did you

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get into some of the other stuff? You know, I didn't buy I

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just checked it out. No,
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some of the other stuff so you
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okay, all right, yeah,
all right? And what was what

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was available as the free stuff?
Some nakedness, some nakedness. Yes,

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that's it, that's it. That's
more for that. I think you had

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to pay for it. Yeah,
you do. And it's weird and I'd

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like to know because all these people
making thousands, well we know that,

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we know that. Yes, there's
somebody who's claiming, like three today is

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like your father when you were twelve, saying, oh, I get Playboy

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for the articles. Come on,
you're gonna check it out. You want

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to see Madonna naked. That was
one of the biggest selling episodes. So

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things have changed that way, yes, but it's still the same. You're

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curious. You're curious. Well,
the weird part is now though it's literally

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the girl next door where they used
to have in like, uh, well,

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I think they had hustler a description. There was penthouse hustler. No

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hustler, somebody hustler had beaver hunt. Oh the girl do you remember beaver

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hunt? You don't remember they had
beaver hunt and it was women from around

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the country who are sending their naked
pictures of that took or had someone take

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of them and try to submit to
be a hustler. Hustle. I don't

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know where they do. You know
why they call the an enemy the beaver

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because years ago, I mean Lewis
and Clark not, they would kill beaver

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and they would make a pelt out
of it for women to keep warm down

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there. And that's where it came
from. Honest, no joke on this

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one. All right, Okay,
I'm not sure if I believe that Moses

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stuttered. Okay, so so beaver
hunt. So all I'm saying is,

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now, if you found out you're
the hot chick down the street, well

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that was another thing I was gonna
say you. I have heard that if

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you set up your only fans,
you can do it just two different states

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that if you put your credit card
in and your your ZIP code is within

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New York, that you can't get
it. Yeah, you can do that.

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Oh, I didn't know that.
So you could do it for the

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rest of the country, but not
where your mom and dad were, right,

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or your uncle Joe. Right,
you could you get excluded from all

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states, Say New York, your
grandparents are in Florida. You're worried that

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somebody's gonna see it. Yeah,
yeah, you can execut his grandpa's lonely

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or his buddies at the villagers.
I think I saw your granddaughter on there.

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Yeah, that's interesting. The only
fans thing is is an interesting thing

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to me because we hear about the
people making the three hundred thousand a month,

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the multimillionaire people, but not everybody's
making that. No, right,

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some people are making anything about it. I would they think they're gonna Then

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you hear these stories and they everybody's
gonna do it, right, But a

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lot of the people that are doing
it have a machine behind them in terms

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of marketing on other platforms, driving
you and then getting kicked off. So

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we'll have ten or twelve Instagrams there's
a woman that I know. They're trying

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to do some kind of TV show
about her. Teacher PhD found out she

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wasn't gonna make more money the hours, all this stuff. She and her

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husband together have an only fans page. She was on Doctor Phil and I'm

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trying to get her on the show. She makes a tremendous amount of money,

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lives in La, does a ton
of social media. I mean it

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is all day with her stuff all
day that is driving people to her only

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fans page and she's interacting with them, and so it does become as much

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as people go. So not a
real job. Oh no, it is.

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Yeah, I mean it is.
You've got it for anything you're working.

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You got to get out there.
Yes, all day. It's all

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about attention. It's all about attention. Just describe to you. So I

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just got to make on Instagram a
couple of months ago before the comedy show

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with Greg Owens to just advertise there. And I got a ton of people

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that wanted to follow me or can
you follow me? Like three or five

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or six every day. This is
Annabelle red h No, I haven't.

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I have not looked at Instagram in
a couple of weeks. But it's just

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a picture of cleavage, not naked. But and she wants me to follow

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her. I know, so why
don't you? Because I don't know her

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in it's a waste of time because
it's a bot. It's not real,

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right, and it could be somebody
who's trying to like get your information and

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stuff, right, So, yeah, you don't want to accept those And

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they're not going to come to my
things, and I'm not gonna come to

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there. It's just a waste of
time. Yeah, nobody's coming anywhere with

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that. All right, We're gonna
h well, take a moment. So

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the O. J. Simpson thirtieth
anniversary juice, The juice, I remember

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where I was. I was in
Syracuse for a benefit for cancer and I

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was across the street a bar.
So I think most people believe that O.

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J. Simpson is guilty of the
murders. Uh, we're going to

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talk to Sean. And Sean Shawn
does a lot of stuff around the village

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of Fairport, but primarily an iron
smoke distillery. He's going to come in

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here. He is a fervent believer
that OJ did not do this, and

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we'll explain why. And I went
back. I don't know if anybody remembers

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there was a show when he wrote
the book. If I did it,

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they did it, Fox did it
TV show and it never aired. But

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it has the closest thing I mean, it is a confession to me.

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There was no deathbed confession. But
wolves here what Sean has to say when

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And we're back Brown number two.
It is Tuesday, Tuesday here in

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Fairport. If you're not drning,
you should be Tugie Fresh and the Man,

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the midth the Legend, mister bellmore
round. That's a quick indro and

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start saying quick. That's a quick
yeah, wow, look at you though

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nailed it. Of course I'll have
does she know next week for you?

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Oh, we might have to write
some questions later in the podcast. Okay,

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I'm going out Friday to do a
little taping on there. But which

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place I should always say? No? Tally ho tally hope, Yeah,

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tally hope. Sean is in the
house. And Sean is a guy who

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you may know because Sean does pretty
much everything around town. He does a

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lot of the trivia nights. He
did trivia night at mult Connery's for years.

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It is trivia night sometimes over at
Iron Smoke. Uh, you're all,

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what else do you do? You
do everything there? Do you own

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it? Do you secretly own it? Are you? It's Tommy just a

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face and you actually run that shot. Tommy is the pretty face and I

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don't have the books for it.
I have the face for radio. Okay.

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So we've got Tommy the poster boy. That's uh, that's pretty funny.

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So Danny Burrillo said to me,
Hey, there's a guy, Sean,

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and Sean is adamant. I don't
know if adam is the right word,

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but Shawn believes that OJ Simpson is
innocent, and with OJ passing in

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the thirtieth anniversary coming up, and
there's all kinds of things coming out on

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that. So Dan gives me Sean's
number, and so yesterday I call and

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it's just a generic voicemail. So
I leave a message and then I send

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a text and I put the address
for the studio in there and I hear

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nothing, and I hear nothing.
So I called Dan today and I go,

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hey, MANU is sean kind of
a flake? Or I mean,

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is he locked in? I go, he always seems to be. I

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haven't spoken to him a lot,
but he always seems very on the ball.

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He's always like on top of stuff
whenever he's running the gig. I've

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watched the guy. He goes,
no, no, he's not a flake

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at all. I said, okay, so well I texted him and he

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goes, oh, right, well, let me reach out to him.

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So he reaches out, and you
say, yeah, what am I walking

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into? It? Is? I
never know? Well, I said,

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I'm not. I don't want to
beat him up. I'm curious as to

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I love hearing other people's you know, pinions and things. So he says,

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uh, yeah, you go.
I said, well, maybe I

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have the wrong number. He goes
no, he goes, well, what

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number are you doing? I go
the one you sent me. I'm just

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clicking the text. So I read
the number. I goes, yeah,

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that's not it. So somebody's got
my name, my phone number. The

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addressed to the studio of voicemails that
I'm leaving them to find out where they

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are, what's going on, And
it's always it's always good to double check,

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you know, with people. But
anyway, uh so O J.

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Simpson before we get in, I
thought this is Dougie may find this interesting.

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So they've been trying to sell the
or they believe now that they can

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sell the white Bronco from the slow
speed chase. Yes for one and a

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half yeah, one and a half
million dollars, three owners. There's three

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owners in Tennessee. Well right now, it's in a museum in Tennessee.

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Yeah, pigeon from museum. Yeah. Really, there's some kind of a

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crime museum down there. And then
somebody who's been there wrote me and said

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that it's right next to Ted Bundy's
Beetle. The Volkswagen Beetle is in this

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museum. So it's a crime museum. So they so years ago it was

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sold. It was sold for I
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fifty. But back in nineteen ninety
six they I think it was al had

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sold it for seventy al callings for
seventy five thousand dollars and then canceled the

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sale when he found out what they
were doing with it. He sold it

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to a company and this company was
going to lease it to another company that

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did celebrity graves. And what they
were going to do was they were going

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to have a slow speed chase in
the recreate the slow speed chase and then

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take you to Nicole around Simpson's grave. Oh that's terrible. It is like

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it made me time. I go, oh, that's an entrepreneur. That's

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an entrepreneur who's going to try to
But I mean, I keep capitalizing.

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Somebody's now demise no matter what.
But Sean, I went back and I've

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dug up some audio of different things. Uh, why don't we start with

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this piece of audio? This was
October third, nineteen ninety five. All

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right, mister Simpson, would you
please stand and face the jury. This

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is Robertson Superior Court of California,
County of Los Angeles, in a matter

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of the People of the State of
California versus Orenthal James Simpson, Case number

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b A zero nine seven two one
one, with the jury and the embuff

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and title action find the defendant or
Orenthal James Simpson, not guilty of the

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crime of murder in violation of penal
cult Section one eighty seven A, a

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felony upon the Cole Brown since then
a human being as charged to. I

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mean, he's the only one on
the defense team that does any kind of

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emotion California County in the back.
And the rest of this was really sad

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because you start to hear the Goldman
family and his sister just sobbing in the

406
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:21,160
courtroom, and it's no matter what
whether OJ did it or not, people

407
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,799
are dead and never coming back.
And so that's where I was for that.

408
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,200
I wasn't working at Kenny Shoes as
a manager at marketplace them all day

409
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:32,279
time. Okay, yeah, did
did you have a TV in their radio?

410
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,480
Just the radio? Okay? All
right? And I would assume like

411
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:38,920
some of the restaurant bar did they
have any was the ground round around then?

412
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,799
Everybody listening to that, Yeah,
we used to call it the Brown

413
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,880
round and we would always And it
wasn't there discussion that they had the verdict

414
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,440
the night before. They did have
it in October second, but they couldn't

415
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,799
get everybody in to read it.
They needed to, you know, the

416
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:56,200
court proceeding. As everybody comes back
to court, so they couldn't get him

417
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,359
in. I think I think some
people were on vacation. I think Marshall

418
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,960
Clark was on vacation because it had
been such a long trial and they figured

419
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,279
this was going to be weeks before
they came back, and they it didn't

420
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:12,119
take weeks. So Sean, why
do you say, what what is your

421
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,119
first of all, how old were
you when all this happened. So that

422
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,000
would have been the murders would have
been the end of my junior year high

423
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:22,200
school. Okay, the trial would
have been the end of my senior year,

424
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,559
beginning of my freshman year of college. So of high school, beginning

425
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:30,640
of college. So obviously freshman year
college. We did nothing but pretty much

426
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,759
watching the trial, skip plenty of
classes and yeah, went there into that.

427
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:40,240
So you know, my my biggest
take is I think that he knew

428
00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:44,039
and maybe was involved in some ways. Okay, through a lot of stuff

429
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:45,519
that's come out afterwards, I leaned
a lot more towards the theory that his

430
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:52,640
son was involved with it, just
because Jason from his first marriage. Yeah,

431
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,799
with a lot of the evidence and
you know, with the lack of

432
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:59,920
bruising on oj the photos that he
took in the police station two days later.

433
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:04,000
The way that you know they say
Goldman fought back and everything, there's

434
00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,519
a lot of stuff that doesn't add
up. In my opinion, I do

435
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,440
think oj knew more than he ever
said. I mean, if you ever

436
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,960
read his book that is, did
you read Yeah, I did the audio

437
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:19,640
version, Yes, that is ridiculous
if I did it. If I did

438
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:25,799
it, you know the Confessions of
Killers, change the title. Yeah,

439
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,519
So I mean I did read that. I mean that that's a very narcissistic

440
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:37,279
book take on everything, and so
yeah, I've always just felt that not

441
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:44,039
everything ended up for him to be
the one that actually physically did it,

442
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:45,960
But it would surprise me if he
was involved or there in some way shape

443
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,799
or for him. Yeah, if
that makes any sense, that makes a

444
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:55,200
lot of sense, because there's somebody
who was out recently, I think an

445
00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:00,640
old manager of OJ's who has really
nothing to gain, said that this was

446
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:07,319
a mafia style hit, that OJ
hired people but insisted on being there.

447
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:12,079
And again that would not inspire me
because again because he's and that explains to

448
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,559
non like that's the one piece that
I think for everybody was there's no bruising

449
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:22,559
and allegedly Goldman had gotten down into
a karate stance and there was yeah,

450
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,799
you know, the bruising on his
hands and everything that you know that they've

451
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:30,119
talked about that you would think OJ
would have more. And the same thing

452
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,119
with the Bronco. They found very
little blood if I remember, right in

453
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,039
the Bronco and at OJ's home afterwards
or not the Bronco. Was it a

454
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:42,559
blazer he had? There was some
kind of car what it was that he

455
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,519
had, obviously not the white Bronco. That was AC's right, that his

456
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:51,039
actual vehicle they impounded. There were
some traces of blood, but not as

457
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:53,759
much for what that scene was.
If I remember how everything went out,

458
00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:59,279
Do you think that because we have
a friend of the podcast who believes that

459
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:06,880
somewhere there's a letter like OJ originally
originally had a letter that al Calling's read.

460
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,480
Was it over the phone while they
were in this colleagues? Wasn't it

461
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,400
who called up? Remember they called? Was it calling from the Bronco?

462
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:17,079
And they and this is being broadcast
everywhere he goes. They go, who

463
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:20,160
are we speaking to? They goes, you know, damn, well you're

464
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,200
speaking or something to that effect.
It was like, so I remember laughing.

465
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:27,319
I just called nine one one.
He said, Oh, we're just

466
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:30,200
trying to get that's what it was. His mother. He just want to

467
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,400
see his mother, right, And
but I thought there was also a letter

468
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,720
somewhere. There was a letter that
I think Shapiro read, or maybe not,

469
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:43,960
maybe it was Kardashian read, because
loj had written a letter yes and

470
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,960
said you'll know when to open this
or whatever. That's when he took off

471
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,240
with AC not only because I refresh
my memory on some of this stuff.

472
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,920
Oh you did, okay, Yeah, Well it's hard to remember, right

473
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,880
because, uh, it was a
it's thirty years ago, and there was

474
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:02,920
so much stuff that you don't and
you heard so much stuff. There's been

475
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,880
so much so what's what was real? What wasn't There's been so much afterwards

476
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,360
with you know, the miniseries that
was on was that, Yeah, I

477
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,920
didn't watch that. It was interesting, like so many other things. Again,

478
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:21,400
it just always He said that the
tabloid newspapers like the Inquirer and Star

479
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,559
and the other ones were the big
factor and getting evidence. You know,

480
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:29,880
they were going after stuff. How
they wanted to find out the lynx.

481
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,519
I'll tell you right about it.
I always thought the Inquirer and I know

482
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:36,000
there were things like, you know, a woman gives birth, the alien

483
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:39,639
baby or whatever they want, but
they also seemed to me. I mean

484
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:45,079
they were the ones that that sunk
Gary Hart's Democratic nomination basically to be President

485
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:50,199
of the United States, because they
had busted him in the affair. Wasn't

486
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,079
it Gary? I think it was
Gary Hart? And then there was who

487
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:59,280
was the guy from South Carolina whose
wife had cancer and they uncovered his affair

488
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,079
and it was all the Inquirer.
I mean they did some real they did

489
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:08,760
almost better investigative that would be a
tabolot enough, but yeah, better journalism

490
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,800
than a lot of the other actives. Yeahah, they were digging deep.

491
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,239
I mean they were the TMZ y
Yeah, and nowadays, I mean TMZ

492
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,639
is one of the go to places
for some of that celebrity scandal news be

493
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,679
a trust him oh time. Yeah. Well it's right there. I mean

494
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:30,119
the TMG did a story on the
bar on this strip here that ye's crazy,

495
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:34,280
all right. I think your theory
then makes a little more sense.

496
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,199
It's not so far out, like
I don't think he ever did it at

497
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:37,960
all. I mean, I'm not
one of those people saying, oh,

498
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,320
he had nothing to do with it, didn't know anything about it. But

499
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,320
also I just feel that he was
and grennye. He did have the book,

500
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,400
which was one way of kind of
him speaking about stuff, but he

501
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:53,719
was such an attention hungry person that
I don't think he could have kept his

502
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,960
mouth shut for thirty years either.
Well that's the weird part as I I

503
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:04,039
think that too with the lot of
people. I often feel like human beings

504
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:07,039
can't keep a secret. If that
makes sense, yep, because I feel

505
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,400
like human being the secret well true, I mean how bad it is,

506
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,360
but there are some things that eventually
you tell the one yeah, yeah,

507
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,480
yeah. You had two kids together, a son and daughter. So I

508
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:23,599
thought part of his thing was like
he didn't he wanted to be there for

509
00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:29,599
the kids, knowing that Nicole was
gone. But somehow, like you know,

510
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,079
dropping the el Collings knows his best
friend. Well, I would guarantee

511
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:36,920
that. I think somebody has to
know something. I mean they had to

512
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,519
ask, oh, Jake, what
the hell is going on? I mean,

513
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,880
all of a sudden, like all
the secrecy gets well if as a

514
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,159
mafia hit, they say, if
you ever bring our name where we've already

515
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,400
shown you what we're gonna do.
We're gonna kill you and all your family,

516
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,000
So I don't ever say anything.
Uh right now, this was did

517
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:59,360
you see? Because O. J. Simpson The Lost Confession was a special

518
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,760
on Fox. They never aired it, but they did the interviews. This

519
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,960
was an six so we're talking almost
a little more than a decade after the

520
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:13,880
murders, and it was to coincide
with the release of the book Sean that

521
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:20,800
you had read if I did it, and I guess I remember hearing some

522
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,599
stuff about this, but I don't
think it ever aired because I think there

523
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:28,119
was such backlash. I think you're
right there. Because I remember hearing about

524
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:30,360
it, I don't know that I've
ever seen it or heard it. So

525
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,960
I found some audio and if this
isn't a confession, I mean, just

526
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:38,079
listen to this. I know the
facts better than anyone. First, this

527
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:42,599
is very difficult for me to do
this. It was very difficult for me

528
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:49,559
because it's hypothetical. Well, cap
and gloves and hypothetical cap and gloves.

529
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,320
I don't think any two people could
be murder it the way they were without

530
00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:00,679
everybody been covered in the book.
I just remember the coal fell hurt herself

531
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:07,079
and this guy kind of got into
a karate thing and I said, well,

532
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,400
you think you can kick my ass? And I remember I grab a

533
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:13,559
knife. I do remember that portion
taking a knife from Charlie, And to

534
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:17,280
be honest, after that, I
don't remember except I'm standing there and there's

535
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:25,440
all kind of stuff around and what
kind of stuff but and stuff around.

536
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:31,159
You know, I hate to say
this. For this, I know we

537
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:37,480
got to back up again. You
right about removing a glove before taking the

538
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:44,400
knife from Charlie. You know,
I had no conscious memory of doing that,

539
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,800
but obviously I must have because they
found a glove there. In the

540
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,400
book, you described taking off your
shoes, your pants, and your shirt

541
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,239
and dropping it in a bundle.
Do you remember that? Uh? Yes,

542
00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:00,320
this is OJ talking about it.
Yeah, that was the thing that

543
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,559
I don't think that aired on Fox. That's essentially what's written in the book

544
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:07,119
because it's the one chapter, you
know, where he's like, you know,

545
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:10,119
hypothetically speaking if I did it,
this is how, and he went

546
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:15,639
through pretty much everything we want.
But when he's speaking there, it's it

547
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:20,320
goes from hypothetical to I was there, who's Charlie. Well that's the thing

548
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,400
that I've always fund interesting in the
book is who was this Charlie person,

549
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,559
because they never really say who it
is, at least as far as I

550
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:28,440
know either, Okay, which again
leads me to believe that, like,

551
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,320
I think he was involved in some
way. I think he do. Yeah.

552
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,880
Well, then it almost gives credence
to the manager who said OJ had

553
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,639
this set up and insisted on being
there. So I'm wondering if Charlie's the

554
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:46,119
hit man. Charlie does all this
stuff, and then you know, I

555
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:49,840
see that guy get down on the
karate stance. You think you're gonna kick

556
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,159
my hand? I mean the way
he's taking me. Yeah, I just

557
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:57,119
like to freak you out. Doesn't
listen to this. And to go from

558
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,360
the most beloved, not the most
beloved, but a very loved, I'll

559
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:07,679
say, character, You know you
were a grid iron star right on lowly

560
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,920
teams, the Bills and then the
forty nine ers at the time Lent.

561
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,639
The forty nine ers at that time
weren't winning. But I'll be honest with

562
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:19,559
you, I was only coming kind
of conscious of football and sports and all

563
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:22,199
that stuff when OJ played for the
forty nine ers. I had no idea

564
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,599
he played for the Bills and then
you know, I loved the Naked Gun

565
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:30,800
movies, and you saw Towering Inferno, which was an awful movie. But

566
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,280
I mean a great movie, but
an awful movie. I mean, it's

567
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,039
just just naming a movie. It
was it, no, I know,

568
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:42,079
but it's an awful movie, wasn't
it? Like it was the People Dying

569
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:45,679
and yeah it was nineteen seventy two
or somethingthing like yeah. But so he

570
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,559
goes on to be an actor and
then he's the sportscaster and he's up in

571
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:52,840
Buffalo often on the field doing his
forty Yeah, a handsome guy, the

572
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,840
Hurts commercials, and then you never
saw this, We never saw that side

573
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,320
of him. But the domestic violence
stuff if it all seems to add up.

574
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:02,800
But that thing that I mean this, how many calls did they get

575
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,440
before they actually sent somebody. I
just read this the other day, like

576
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:12,360
eight calls, Nicole Brown. Things
were going on, and then they finally

577
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,519
sent somebody to the house. I
thought over the years there was there yet

578
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:20,719
different calls. I don't remember.
I think there were a few. I

579
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,639
think there were a few that they
did show up and it was like,

580
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:28,039
hey, oj Man, you know, yeah, yeah, that kind of

581
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:30,599
thing. Yeah, it's like,
which is I don't mean to laugh.

582
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:37,079
I laugh out of out of awkwardness
and uncomfortable inness because you know, but

583
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,159
when you're famous, you get away
with stuff. Yeah, you do.

584
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,239
Unfortunately, I just got to hear
this again. This freaks me out.

585
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:46,639
I know the facts better than anyone
first on. This is very difficult for

586
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:51,599
me to do this. It was
very difficult for me because it's hypothetical.

587
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,519
All right, so it's hypothetical.
This is what he's saying. It's hypothetical.

588
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:59,360
But when he goes keeps continues to
talk, it sounds very first person

589
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:06,599
because it's hypothetical. Well, cap
and gloves, uh, and hypothetical cap

590
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:12,159
and gloves. I don't think any
two people could be murdered the way they

591
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:21,239
were went out. Everybody been covered
in blood. Oh, Jay Simpson who

592
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,400
was behind him? Who's the Slow
Weight program, Peyton Manning. Yeah,

593
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:31,639
I just remember the coal fell and
hurt herself, see that, Like I

594
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:35,679
don't remember that coming out that Nicole
fell and hurt herself, right, I

595
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,880
did do the col practically had her
head chopped off, and so I guess

596
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,840
one of the things that we'll remind
for a second. That leads me a

597
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,599
little more towards like the Jason stuff
that I believe in. So they were

598
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:50,760
all the domestic violence calls that you
know were documented here and there, none

599
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,800
of them were ever with a weapon. I mean he was a physical he

600
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,480
was, yes, he was,
yes, not with the weapon right where

601
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,760
you had his son just arrest a
few days before that for attacking his manager

602
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:06,280
with a knife. Oh, I
didn't know that. So you had his

603
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,559
son, like with a lot of
violent history with knives, who also had

604
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,920
I guess some type of either rotc
Army, Navy training or whatever. He

605
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,480
was about twenty four at the time. So so again with a lot of

606
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,400
the physicality of it, is always
led me back towards it being more Jason,

607
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:30,159
who also had I guess documented mental
illness issues and didn't like Nicole.

608
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:35,159
It didn't because you know, she
was the woman that came in after OJ

609
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,480
left his mom. He was about
I think thirteen or so and about Nicole

610
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:42,440
or go hold me on the exact
dates, yeah, something like that,

611
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,000
And it just it always Yeah,
that's where as more and more evidence came

612
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:51,599
out. I know they have the
one private investigator who's claimed he bought like

613
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,159
a storage locker that Jason Owen that
had journals in it and had a knife

614
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:59,639
that he thought could be connected or
and who knows how much to believe of

615
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:04,639
any other that stuff. A lot
of it's people go for publicity, but

616
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,000
just that always added more and more. It's like, yeah, oj was

617
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,960
definitely not a nice person and had
some horrible sides to him, But wouldn't

618
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:21,679
you be a conspiracor conspirator to the
murdered accessory? I don't know if the

619
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,719
laws, I don't know technically the
crime would be, but I mean,

620
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:29,880
I mean, I definitely again not
do not think he was innocent of being

621
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,360
not involved in any way shape.
Yeah, I just don't think that he

622
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:37,519
physically, I mean, and then
to take the head the hit that it,

623
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,679
you know, knowing that's your kid, Uh, well, so I

624
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,239
guess you didn't stop it. One
of the other interesting facts, you know,

625
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:49,880
I was looking at stuff the today
and brought it back O. J

626
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:54,800
hired a lawyer for his kid before
he hired lawyers for himself. So the

627
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:00,079
day that he found out, he
hired a lawyer for Jason before he even

628
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:05,039
had his whole dream team of people
settled before he was charged with anything,

629
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:08,920
so he was already kind of expecting
Jason talked to it, interrogated in sudden

630
00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:14,880
way, shape or form, so
very absoultely could have said. And I've

631
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,880
heard this theory too, it's like, oh, j just go to go

632
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,760
to trial. They're not gonna be
able to pinot on you, and we'll

633
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,559
be able to fuck a whole bunch
off of you, get you not guilty,

634
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:29,079
and then your son will I guess
it was proved, well, not

635
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:32,119
proven, but that his son had
done it after many years, there was

636
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:37,599
more evidence linking his son than actually
oj Ah. Okay, it's sort of

637
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,519
I don't even like saying this,
but it sort of makes a little more

638
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:49,440
sense in the stuff except for the
things that we're hearing here. But he

639
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:52,480
may have been there. Is there
a possibility that he knew that Jason was

640
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:55,679
gonna do this or so, or
did he want Jason to do this.

641
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,559
One of the accounts that I read
there, I mean, yeah, this

642
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:05,159
is all speculation on stuff, was
that, you know, I guess that

643
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:07,800
the Colt was supposed to be out
with the kids at some restaurants that Jason

644
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,360
worked at. She didn't go there. He was mad, he went over

645
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,960
and then apparently this account goes Jason
committed the crimes, then called his dad,

646
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:22,519
who showed up and wasn't like pretty
much, okay, get out of

647
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:24,719
here, get rid of this stuff. Yeah, and then the cover up

648
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:31,519
or whatever happened happened, and this
guy kind of got into a karate thing.

649
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,639
Well you think you can kick well
this guy? Right, So he

650
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:40,559
doesn't know his name, but by
that point in two thousand and six he

651
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:46,760
clearly should have known his name.
But I'm wondering if he was the karate

652
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,639
stance, where did that come out? I had heard that before. Was

653
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:53,559
this the only account? Was it
the book? Then he says, karate

654
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:58,639
stands. I know there's like all
the talk about Goldman being a black belt

655
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:01,079
in karate. Oh there was so
that how could defend He should have been

656
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:06,000
able to defend himself, you know
someone that's then again it goes back to

657
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,760
the lack of bruising on Oj.
You thinks there's guy black bell karate is

658
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,119
going to do something. Especially,
I mean, how old was Oj at

659
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:17,679
that point? He had been in
his fifties. Uh yeah, I thought

660
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,119
it was in his early forties.
Could have men my grab a knife.

661
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,239
I do remember that taking a knife
from Charlie, And to be honest,

662
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:29,760
after that, I don't remember.
I don't know who Charlie is, all

663
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:37,039
kind of stuff around and what kind
of stuff. But so if we think

664
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:42,679
about this, let's go with the
theory that he didn't do it, his

665
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,440
son did it. His son calls
him in the panic, says I did

666
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,800
it. He goes over to see
this, and then for the rest of

667
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,960
your life you're this. I mean, look, do you have kids?

668
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:59,119
Yep, Okay, you love your
kids? You would I have kids.

669
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:01,440
I would do anything for my kids. I don't know if I would be

670
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,400
yeah, yeah, it would be
hard to know that they did this right

671
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:10,880
and not. But at the same
time, I wouldn't want them somewhere else.

672
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,400
I'd want them somewhere where I could
try to keep an eye on them,

673
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,599
or maybe make them live with me. Something right that I could keep

674
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:21,280
an eye. But I wouldn't want
them in a prison. But it would

675
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,400
be terrible to know that they were
capable of this. I mean, this

676
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:31,719
was brutal, and yet he'd be
if oj Beato his wife up eight times

677
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,599
at least for calls and probably more
domestic abuse. How bad is it to

678
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:40,599
go from that to Okay, my
son ended up killner. You're already beating

679
00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:44,559
up a woman, yes, many
times? Yes, yeah, no,

680
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,760
I I yeah, I don't know. I have no idea that just But

681
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:52,039
what I'm saying is, let's just
go on the simple fact that you're going

682
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:54,280
to cover for your son for the
rest of your life. You've become a

683
00:48:54,480 --> 00:49:00,199
pariah, a polarizing figure in America. To me, I found him the

684
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,239
most interesting because you went from I
mean, the only only one I can

685
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,960
think of is cosmic. You go
from America's dad to whatever, you know,

686
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:13,960
the pariah you are, the rapist. Basically, I could also see

687
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:19,079
him being so narcissistic and self centered
to think that he's not going to get

688
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:22,559
all this backlash and after it's proven
that you know, he didn't do it,

689
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,199
that all of a sudden America is
gonna come back and love OJ because

690
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:30,119
I'm OJ. So. I mean, the guy was not all there mentally

691
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,280
on many levels. No, he
was right, but then I mean,

692
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,360
even living in Florida doing cocaine,
going around partying with young chicks, haven't

693
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:40,480
he just had a life after that? And then you know, in the

694
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:45,599
nine years in prison, for a
crime that didn't just on the surface,

695
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:47,920
didn't deserve nine years. This was
payback in some way. But you do

696
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:53,719
all that and really it was your
kid that did it potentially, and it

697
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,480
seems you make a good case in
that theory. I didn't know there was

698
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:01,880
more evidence that came out maybe pointing
that direction. That's interesting. I mean,

699
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,800
there was a lot of other stuff
that came out. You know,

700
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,760
Jason apparently had the same hat that
was found there, and like you know,

701
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:13,639
yeah, there was a whole bunch
of different stuff that had come out

702
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:15,199
of the one documentary that was there. I don't know what, maybe ten

703
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:22,880
years ago or so. Yeah,
well, I uh, you didn't walk

704
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,280
into any kind of a line that
I actually think it makes sense. And

705
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,519
the more, the more and more
it's just such a weird thing, right

706
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:32,679
because they never you would think at
some point something to that level would eat

707
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,559
at you that you I don't know, something would weird would happen or come

708
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:39,119
out, you know, or someone
would say something. The other thing is

709
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:45,920
it's like you would think by now
someone would have cave to mony, like

710
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:51,360
okay, that's what I mean.
Something either the circle is very small of

711
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:58,159
people that know or they're oh,
I think yeah, uh all right,

712
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:04,400
well this is a it's an interesting
thing for sure. Sean who brings up

713
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,599
some good points. Sean who works
in Iron Smoke is later tonight because we're

714
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:13,679
taping this on on Tuesday the sixteenth. Is this the monthly smartphone trivia that

715
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,599
you do? So tonight is my
monthly smartphone Iron Smoke Distillery. Yep.

716
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:20,679
And uh so it's music Trivia night. And then actually tonight I have a

717
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,599
live I do a live band music
round, so it's like a band playing

718
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:30,000
music clips really, which is funny
when you have like two white, overweight

719
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,760
guys and they're playing you know,
like Lizzo or some people are trying to

720
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,119
guess you know, the name of
the song or there. So that's always

721
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:38,159
something that's a little fun, that
is fun. And then Tomorrow night is

722
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:43,320
live band karaoke over there. Are
you there Tomorrow night as well? I'm

723
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,760
not going I'm over at Damien's Joint
thoughorrow. Okay. Every Wednesday over there

724
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:51,639
in all comedy's all right. And
then on Wednesdays Trivia Wednesday. Yeah,

725
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:57,280
every Wednesdays one of New York Trivia
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726
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Trivia, Yeah okay, and then
Bartolada's All Star Jam. We'll be back

727
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,800
on Thursday the eighteenth at Iron Smoke
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728
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,760
their fine spirits. Friday the nineteenth, Chris and Corey for the Acoustic Sunset

729
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,639
sessions those who get at five you
do Yeah, and then Audible is back

730
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:21,880
playing the main stage on Saturday on
Friday the nineteenth. Excuse me, They're

731
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,519
a fun one. That's why I
thank you guys for having me to give

732
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:25,920
me a chance to chat with you
today too. I appreciate it. Yeah,

733
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,159
I think it's great. And it's
just such a weird thing to me

734
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:37,840
that guy I couldn't. I always
thought he did it or had some knowledge

735
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:43,440
of something. And I don't know
how you love somebody and then could have

736
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:46,000
their head cut off and not at
some point just I mean, just eating

737
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:51,519
you. We had a ninety eight
year old guy in here because the Fairport

738
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:57,920
Police do a podcast that we produce, and this guy talked about being in

739
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,920
World War Two and killing people and
he remembers the first person he shot,

740
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:08,559
a German soldier over in when I
don't know where exactly, but I think

741
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:15,440
in Germany, and he said that
I sometimes think I'm sitting in my easy

742
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,199
chair now and the memory is floed
back, and I think, how could

743
00:53:17,199 --> 00:53:21,440
I have done that? And I
thought the same thing with OJ. Was

744
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,119
there ever a thing? How could
they? And it has to be?

745
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:27,159
It just has to be unless you're
so good. And the only thing I

746
00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:30,599
could think of is if to be
a great athlete, really, to be

747
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:35,559
great at anything, you got to
have a short memory. Because everybody has

748
00:53:35,639 --> 00:53:38,079
what we'll call a failure in some
way, a bad game, a bad

749
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:40,880
day, a bad whatever. But
you gotta have a short memory behind you.

750
00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:45,079
That's what I'm saying, right right, put it a little behind you.

751
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:46,840
Can you do that with something like
this? But this was the mother

752
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:52,880
of your children. You have kids
who you love. I would assume that

753
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:59,960
no longer have a mother on the
planet. And somehow you're either you're guilty

754
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,199
in society, you were found guilty
and liable in the civil court. You

755
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,000
know all this shit, And I
go, at some point you have to

756
00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:09,360
think in your mind, I don't
know, like this ninety eight year old

757
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,800
guy, how could I have done
that? Or how could I have How

758
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,480
could my son have been able to
do this? Or what I'm so busy

759
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:19,400
with cocaine and hooker. Yes he
did, and which would be? Which

760
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,480
would be? See that video dancing
in the club, Thank you Jesus,

761
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:25,719
I love you Jesus, surrounded by
five or six women. You haven't.

762
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:30,400
Okay, I'll look for that,
but no. But what I'm saying is

763
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,920
that's a good I'm sure. And
these are all escapes, right, get

764
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000
high, forget, get drunk,
forget. Also, look at what we've

765
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:40,679
learned about pro football players over the
last you know, five ten years with

766
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,800
seats right and all that stuff that
you know, who knows what type of

767
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,960
trauma he suffered back in the day. And yeah, that's not excusing anything.

768
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:52,119
No, it's not, it's not. But that's interesting. All right,

769
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:55,239
we shall uh, we will take
a moment. Feel free to stick

770
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:01,119
around if you want to. Otherwise
we we will talk about this omaha.

771
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:06,039
Teacher, I don't know if you
know about this mutual of oma. We'll

772
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:08,039
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810
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811
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math and my buddy, yes, and

812
00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:31,880
my buddy used to say it was
a bippy day because her nipples would be

813
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,920
hard and like poke it through,
so he would come running down all it's

814
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,840
day. It's bitby, like we
get all excited. We were about fourteen

815
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,760
fifteen years old. And other than
that, there was no There was not

816
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,519
one teacher that you thought was attractive. There was one my senior year who

817
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:52,679
woud come in, but I didn't. She was younger, but I she's

818
00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:55,480
probably a student teacher. No,
she was, I remember because she took

819
00:58:55,519 --> 00:58:59,800
over the track team and stuff and
I didn't run that year for whatever reason,

820
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,039
and so she Yeah, I'm looking
at her. No, I don't

821
00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:07,079
remember exactly, but I never had
any interaction with her other than that everybody

822
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:12,360
there was just old and crusty,
and there was nobody attractive. And now

823
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:17,679
it's way way different. And there's
a story that came out yesterday or over

824
00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:23,199
the weekend about a teacher in Omaha, Omaha, Nebraska, Omaha, Nebraska.

825
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:28,519
Now where it had in county,
but where it happens doesn't to me,

826
00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:30,840
doesn't matter because it's going on anywhere. And I used to say,

827
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,519
like, what's in the water,
because in order to be a teacher,

828
00:59:36,519 --> 00:59:39,719
you now this person it turns out
as a substitute teacher. So but again

829
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:45,280
I don't know. In some states, different requirements, but New York State,

830
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,960
I was always shocked because you paid
extra to get your masters. You

831
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,199
had to have a master's degree.
So now that was either a year or

832
00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:59,000
two years, depending on the program
accelerated or not. That you're additional schooling,

833
00:59:59,559 --> 01:00:02,239
more loans, more bills, and
you're gonna throw it all away for

834
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:08,119
a fourteen year old penis makes no
sense unless there's some kind of I don't

835
01:00:08,159 --> 01:00:10,920
know what it is, some kind
of weird thing, but this, well,

836
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,719
you're a pedophile. Yeah, if
you're fourteen, yes, but I

837
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:20,480
mean even seventeen, you know what
I mean? Like a student at some

838
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:22,840
point a student, I guess you
can almost look sort of like if it's

839
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:28,880
a twenty three year old first year
a secondary teacher, right high school teacher

840
01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:34,199
that gets involved with an eighteen year
old guy. Anywhere else, but that's

841
01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:37,159
been a bit well anywhere else but
that setting, it's not that big a

842
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:42,199
deal. But in that setting it's
a scandal because you've got it shouldn't happen.

843
01:00:42,679 --> 01:00:45,800
But I could see where that one
could almost be. This is one

844
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,480
I don't get at all. Really, this is a four scenario you could

845
01:00:49,639 --> 01:00:52,480
you've not been thinking about in different
way. Forty five year old woman forty

846
01:00:52,519 --> 01:00:57,320
five. I'm in okay, how
she look not bad? You know what

847
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,320
she looks like? No, I
don't. A very sweet, n nice

848
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,280
woman like she does. Look her
up. Her name is uh. I

849
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,239
would have a picture for you,
but spin in my computer. I'm gonna

850
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:15,480
knock over the camera or something.
Let's see her name is Ward? Is

851
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:21,239
her last name? A forty five
year old teacher, Aaron Ward. Aaron

852
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,440
Ward, forty five. Now her
mugshot is horrible, but they have a

853
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,920
picture of her made up, and
she just looks like a sweet lady.

854
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,239
She's pretty. She's not nothing fantastic, but she's a pretty lady. Dirty

855
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,599
Worr, but it's church. Go
all right, I'm going back and forth.

856
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:44,079
Okay, that that's the that's what
she got caught, right, Okay,

857
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:46,800
now wait to hear the story and
then that. Okay, that's like

858
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,960
she'd be teaching Sunday school. Okay, Okay, there you go saying that's

859
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,440
all right. So and her husband
I believe is a Harvard educated lawyer,

860
01:01:57,159 --> 01:02:04,039
okay or something. So she is
caught. There's a report of a cart

861
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:07,519
on at the end of a street, dead end, three o'clock in the

862
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:14,960
morning. Please come by a knock
on the door. It's her and the

863
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,920
seventeen year old kid in the back
seat. Seventeen year old, not fourteen,

864
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:22,480
seventeen, seventeen seventeen. She is
the kid is not fourteen seventeen year

865
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:27,960
old kid. She the kid leaps
to the front of the car. She's

866
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:31,840
completely naked in the back. Now
to be forty five and flexible enough they

867
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,400
can get it onto the back seat
of a car is still pretty good.

868
01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:37,079
Yeah, I give her a point. She leaps to the front. The

869
01:02:37,159 --> 01:02:39,719
kid leaps, he pulls up,
is underw her. It leaps to the

870
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:45,480
front of the car and takes off. Oh, racing with her with her

871
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,440
Well, she's still in the back
seat, so the cops pursuit chase.

872
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,239
Kid crashes the car. Oh,
I thought you may runs off, not

873
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:55,039
in the door and run. Not
yet. He jumps to the front seat

874
01:02:55,159 --> 01:02:58,880
and takes off, hits the gas, drives the car. We're out of

875
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,920
here. I can't get in trouble. Crashes the car. She's still naked

876
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:08,199
in the back. They the kid
gets out and runs and I don't think

877
01:03:08,199 --> 01:03:12,960
they catch him, so they just
stay on the person who's in the car,

878
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,119
who turns out to be forty five
year old Aaron Ward, who admits

879
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:22,440
that she had sexual intercourse with the
kid. And when they're going through and

880
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:28,719
she's pulling like her clothes together,
ID falls out from the school. OK.

881
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,559
So she says, yes, I'm
a teacher, and he is,

882
01:03:31,199 --> 01:03:37,000
but she's a substitute teacher in the
district and it's her employee, ID.

883
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:39,920
And the kid is a student at
the school, seventeen years old, seventeen

884
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:43,360
and she's forty five. And they
find out who the kid is, obviously,

885
01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:46,880
obviously, but he's a minor by
you know, not under eighteen,

886
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:53,920
so they're not going to release his
name. So how som go lucky is

887
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:58,119
this kid runs out? How lucky
is this kid? I'm going there's so

888
01:03:58,239 --> 01:04:01,440
many things in this that just make
no sense to me. You're forty five.

889
01:04:02,639 --> 01:04:04,960
I want you to go, I
want you to talk. I almost

890
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,559
want to do a survey on the
street of forty five year old women.

891
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:13,239
When was the when was the last
time you got it on in the back

892
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:17,599
seat of a car? Right right? Or or when was the last time

893
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:23,360
you desired Maybe you parked with your
husband, you had a few romantic moments,

894
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,559
but you know, you had that
big bed at home. Do you

895
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:27,840
know what I'm saying? You had
a big bed. You didn't have this

896
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,800
shitty back seat of a car.
I don't even know what kind of car

897
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,960
it is. It could be the
kid's car. If it's a seventeen year

898
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:40,199
old's car, that ain't a nice
car. It's just not right unless it's

899
01:04:40,239 --> 01:04:46,519
that going. So she's in You're
in the back seat of a car at

900
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:50,639
three o'clock of the fucking morning.
Have you lost your mind? And you're

901
01:04:50,639 --> 01:04:55,320
married, and you're married, and
I would assume have kids. I've seen

902
01:04:55,360 --> 01:05:00,119
no report to say that, but
I did see something where they had her

903
01:05:00,159 --> 01:05:02,880
husband and I know he's some I
don't know if he was a lawyer,

904
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,440
but he's Harvard educated and sort of
a big wig. Maybe he's a politician

905
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:12,639
out I don't know, uh,
but known so now this is this gets

906
01:05:12,719 --> 01:05:16,719
everywhere. That's the bad part.
And you are guilty, I don't.

907
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:21,440
I mean, according to the report, their heart beats for that adventure.

908
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:26,320
Oh no, I get it.
I look, I understand at some point

909
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,960
you should say, being adult,
okay, this is wrong, I shouldn't

910
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,239
be doing this. Yeah, you
know, I mean, I don't know

911
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,079
if you've got that much the hats
for this guy, wait till he's When

912
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:39,079
are you going to be eighteen?
I'll take you out for your eighteenth birthday.

913
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:42,480
I just remember something, you know, I just remembered, just remembered

914
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:47,039
this. Yeah, okay. I
remember going home from college, back to

915
01:05:47,679 --> 01:05:51,840
home where my parents lived, seeing
some of my buddies, and one of

916
01:05:51,840 --> 01:06:00,880
my buddies said that they made out
with one of the guys moms at like

917
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,440
a party senior week or whatever it
was. Because they was after we graduated

918
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:10,280
college was like, yeah, made
out with Yeah, it was somebody's mom

919
01:06:10,679 --> 01:06:14,480
and somebody's mom. That was big
news. Oh it was big news to

920
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:15,639
me. Now I didn't know this
person. They went to it. They

921
01:06:15,679 --> 01:06:19,440
went to a school down south.
I think they were either Clemson or maybe

922
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:24,320
yeah, I think they were Clemson. And they said whatever their senior week,

923
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,920
whatever their parties were. The families
came in and they had like big

924
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,719
picnic. They got drunk. Mom
and dad are there. Dad's off doing

925
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:39,280
something and Mom's making out with one
of the frat bros. And I go

926
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,119
even there, like, I don't
know, do you lose yourself and go

927
01:06:43,239 --> 01:06:46,480
back to the fantasy? And well
it depends on how much I have a

928
01:06:46,519 --> 01:06:50,360
drink? Yeah, you know,
but how much do you have to drink

929
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,320
to go? I want to bang
a seventeen year old in the back of

930
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,320
a fucking car. How do you
have them? Shy seventy seven of them

931
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,519
all? And it was the matter
the needle swings both ways. I don't

932
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:04,920
know, I find it or hurricanes
horse And these are the people, these

933
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,719
are the people that I want to
talk to so badly because I want to

934
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:13,519
say I really want to know what
led to this? How did this come

935
01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:15,360
about? Can you just just be
honest, I'm not I just want to

936
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:21,159
know, like what happened? Did
he just get your who was this temperature?

937
01:07:21,519 --> 01:07:25,519
Yeah? But I mean this couldn't
have been the first time. Why,

938
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,000
there's no way this is the first
time. Is every three o'clock in

939
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:32,599
the morning sneaking around there's some kind
of other flirting, something happened. Maybe

940
01:07:32,599 --> 01:07:36,079
it's the first time they've actually had
sex together, but there's some other ship

941
01:07:36,159 --> 01:07:40,559
that's going on. There's no way
that you know, and you're forty five

942
01:07:40,599 --> 01:07:42,880
and you don't have these moments where
you're like, what am I doing?

943
01:07:43,639 --> 01:07:46,280
I'm so stupid? My god?
And what is this kid? Like?

944
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:49,840
What are they gonna tell me?
He's an old soul? I mean,

945
01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:53,840
you know what I'm saying. He
knows how to talk to women. This

946
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:58,039
guy's gonna be the smoothest guy,
I guess. So I want to talk

947
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:00,079
to the kid like, hey,
a silver tongue devil. Yeah, in

948
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:03,719
study hall? But what what is
the pickup line? Where where does it

949
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:08,840
go? How does it happen?
I never looked at a forty five year

950
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,559
old woman at seventeen they were ancient
to me. Now, I think forty

951
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:15,439
five year old women look very different
today. But this woman looks very matronly,

952
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,600
not I mean not sure on attractive. She's a pretty woman, but

953
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:23,560
if I'm seventeen, I'm not looking
at her. Going sign me up?

954
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,880
Right? Boy? I bet she
makes a mean meat loaf. I mean

955
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,199
you know what I'm saying. That's
all I would need. I love meat

956
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:36,199
loafs. I just like, come
on throwing some skill. It's like,

957
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:41,479
yeah, you're right. How would
the conversation come up of being attracted here

958
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,680
in slip? Is it in your
I would guess study hall, yeah,

959
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,600
where you might not have so many
kids or something, or just talking because

960
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:53,520
just study all year, either you're
studying for a test later or you're just

961
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,760
talking in the teacher at least I
remember, And if you're going to talk,

962
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,479
just keep it low, right,
But I just remember. I mean,

963
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,039
you're right, there has to be
some inquisitiveness. That's a big word

964
01:09:04,079 --> 01:09:08,000
for me. But how you doing? You married? Or how many times

965
01:09:08,039 --> 01:09:10,399
are you single? You? What's
your name? Bobby? What do you

966
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,760
do? Oh? You? Oh? Do you work out or something?

967
01:09:13,039 --> 01:09:15,000
Yes? Does that effect the guess? Yes? You just don't show up

968
01:09:15,039 --> 01:09:17,520
in a car at three o'clock in
the morning. No, that's what I'm

969
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:23,560
saying. And think about any girl
about your same age appear in school that

970
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,560
you hit on, and she could
look like in a second, shut you

971
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,199
down, right, shut you down. That hasn't changed. So at forty

972
01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:35,239
five you may be a little more
kind and not want to be hurting a

973
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:40,439
kid's feelings, but you could shut
that kid down. True, who is

974
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:45,760
going after who to start it?
That would be that's another weird thing.

975
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,960
Though you're forty five. What makes
you look in the mirror? You're forty

976
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:54,439
five. There's nothing wrong with forty
five. There's nothing wrong with fifty five

977
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,399
six, there's nothing wrong with it. But it's wrong when you're seventeen to

978
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,239
go, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, they're there. Get those

979
01:10:01,279 --> 01:10:10,279
numbers up, keep going eighty eight. Oh I'm hard too. I don't

980
01:10:10,319 --> 01:10:13,760
know. I mean, beauty is
an I beholder. But yeah, you're

981
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,399
forty five years substante teacher. You've
obviously heard other stories like this, right,

982
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,439
people go away for a long time. Yeah, Well here's the other

983
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:25,680
thing. Take away, take away
the jail stuff, because that just more

984
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,520
that to me. Actually sounds like
in these situations, it sounds like a

985
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,560
vacation from the going to jail.
Going to jail nowadays no no going to

986
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:38,359
jail. And if you're in this
kind of a situation, going to jail

987
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:45,239
sounds like a vacation. Because I
don't care where you are. Every we

988
01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:49,079
can all say big city, small
Every area is a small town. Every

989
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:55,079
area you go to Brooklyn, they
have neighborhoods or gets around that neighborhood.

990
01:10:55,159 --> 01:10:58,119
You can't walk out on the street. Everybody knows who you are and what

991
01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:01,439
you did. Right, think that
disappears after a while. But maybe maybe

992
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:06,359
you can move. You can move, but you gotta move. Start over?

993
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:12,039
Who wants to start over? Forty
five? You see what I'm saying.

994
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:15,119
You're established, You got roots,
your husband, all this stuff.

995
01:11:15,159 --> 01:11:17,119
You like your fan, you like
your house, Maybe you like your husband,

996
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:20,920
Maybe you love your husband. Maybe
your husband's not satisfying. I don't

997
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,520
know. To take the dirty sexual
shit out, no whatever the sexual stuff

998
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,920
in. But what makes it?
But I'm saying, right, but then

999
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,960
your parents, you're in laws,
kids, your co workers, your friend,

1000
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:36,119
everybody fucking knows. Everybody you know
knows. That's what I'm saying,

1001
01:11:36,119 --> 01:11:41,479
to come up with Thanksgiving dinner.
Hey, you don't think you think Detroit's

1002
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,880
gonna cover the spread of seven and
a half. And uh, speaking speaking

1003
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,680
of bread, did your wife,
Hey, do you guys get some stocking

1004
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:56,159
stuffers? You know what I'm saying. You not taking care of business in

1005
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:59,479
the bedroom. You understand like you
do understand you can move. You can't

1006
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,680
run away from your family. He
just can't go see him anymore. And

1007
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:05,600
what do you do? You cut
your Yes you can. But my point

1008
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:10,159
is, I look at that woman, look at her face when it's all

1009
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:15,000
made up. That is a woman
whom I'm saying, and if and I

1010
01:12:15,079 --> 01:12:18,199
will have her picture up when we
do some things online, I'm saying,

1011
01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:26,159
that's a woman who is about family
like you. Yeah, yes, yes,

1012
01:12:26,399 --> 01:12:31,520
And she bakes and makes Yeah,
she cooks, she does, She

1013
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:36,119
probably does. She could be a
freaking the bed lady in the streets,

1014
01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:44,479
freaking the sheets. Yeah, a
little whiskey maker. Whiskey no makeup,

1015
01:12:45,159 --> 01:12:46,760
now if you were, if you
were, no makeup. She looks a

1016
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,840
little rough there, But that I
mean that is after probably so crying,

1017
01:12:53,239 --> 01:12:57,039
embarrassed. She's probably embarrassed. She
was completely naked in the back of the

1018
01:12:57,079 --> 01:13:02,439
car as a seventeen year old boy
runs away. That's why we call the

1019
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:08,159
streak. There's fucking chivalry for you, right. Let her hold the bag

1020
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:11,760
of ship. That's chivalry right there. Let me tell you something, if

1021
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,840
the number one thing, if that
were my kid, I'd be like,

1022
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,479
you fucking asshole. You let her
hang on all this shit? You did

1023
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,640
this? That would be bigger thing. Yeah, yeah, because by that

1024
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,520
point it's all over. There's nothing
that it's already done. It's done,

1025
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,920
it's already done. The only thing
I would have said is, if you're

1026
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,399
gonna be a man, be a
fucking man to the end. Don't go

1027
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,960
running away from the cops. Don't
leave her. Did you wear a kindom?

1028
01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:39,079
That wouldn't even come up. It
wouldn't, No, it should one.

1029
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:42,119
God only knows who else she's been
with. That's save sex, right,

1030
01:13:42,199 --> 01:13:44,920
Okay, but it's too late it
is, so I'm gonna say,

1031
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,800
did you wear a condom? Did
you pass ten? Yes? I don't

1032
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:51,600
care. My thing, that's that's
my bigger thing. My bigger thing would

1033
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:57,520
be if you're gonna be a man
and have a relationship and fool around with

1034
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,479
someone, who is married and you
know that. It's maybe she taught an

1035
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:06,279
anime and this kid was just an
idiot. I don't first of axtracurricular activities.

1036
01:14:06,359 --> 01:14:10,479
I don't remember even it said,
Oh, no, I did seventeen.

1037
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,159
I snuck out of the house.
I was out at three o'clock in

1038
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:15,199
the morning. I was gonna say, most times your parents kind of were.

1039
01:14:15,359 --> 01:14:19,159
There were curfews. You want to
make sure you're home. I was

1040
01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:24,840
out. I crawled out of the
window. I remember my mother coming downstairs,

1041
01:14:25,119 --> 01:14:28,279
banging on the door because I had
failed the chemist No, I had

1042
01:14:28,279 --> 01:14:30,319
the chemistry regions coming up. I
failed it then, and she's banging on

1043
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:33,520
the door. Wake up, you
got to start studying. You got to

1044
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,920
get your shit togetter. And I
wake up. My eyes are like blunt,

1045
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,560
She goes, Why are your eyes
so blood shot? I don't know,

1046
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,720
just waking up. Give me a
second. I had just gotten home

1047
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,720
about a half hour earlier. Were
you drinking all night? Uh? Probably

1048
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,439
among other things. No, there
were kegs and fields and running around,

1049
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:57,439
and we got the kegs obviously,
people that were old enough. I think

1050
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,359
somebody buddy from college. Yeah,
yes, of course it is. Yeah,

1051
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,880
any women of the parties. Yeah, there were not not forty five

1052
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:11,680
year old women. Those were called
chaperones or scarecrows in the middle of the

1053
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:20,000
field, stared the cops away.
It's terrible, but I just like,

1054
01:15:20,079 --> 01:15:24,399
I don't I can't wrap my head
around it. And then I feel bad.

1055
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,560
I feel bad for her, which
sounds stupid because I don't feel bad

1056
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,680
for her. I didn't do it. She was. No, I'm saying

1057
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,640
like, you got caught up in
a moment, and a moment got too

1058
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:40,439
big. A moment's at a party
and you two are in the kitchen,

1059
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,439
everybody else is out looking at the
fireworks, and you start making out and

1060
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,039
you hear something. You stop.
You're like, okay, that was that

1061
01:15:45,119 --> 01:15:48,960
was fun. That yeah, but
this is then back in the morning,

1062
01:15:49,159 --> 01:15:56,000
that feeling of being wanted again,
feeling young again, being told you're attractive

1063
01:15:56,039 --> 01:15:59,920
again and beautiful again. I mean
that that's how these things go with people.

1064
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:00,920
I don't know. I would know. Oh no, No, I'm

1065
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,800
just saying like, yeah, I'm
sure you do. I do, right,

1066
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:08,520
somebody doesn't feel satisfied. I don't
know why a seventeen year old,

1067
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:12,760
but clearly you're right. You shouldn't
feel bad for her. I just feel

1068
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,239
bad because where do you go now
that not everybody well the Diamono's fall and

1069
01:16:16,279 --> 01:16:20,520
everybody's affected, from your husband,
your kids, parents, Like you say,

1070
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,239
yeah, her parents, I mean
work. You know what do you

1071
01:16:24,319 --> 01:16:27,359
say? Like? I need not
get looked in the same I mean eventually,

1072
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,079
like if now to wear off,
I mean years. We're not talking

1073
01:16:30,119 --> 01:16:33,960
a day or a week or a
month exactly. You know right this there

1074
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:40,159
will be people that will never forget
this. Right, and that mug shot,

1075
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,640
I want to know if it comes
out. You ever get one of

1076
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,319
those really shitty Christmas letters. This
has been an amazing year for us.

1077
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,439
Well twenty twenty four could have went
better. But we're back in April.

1078
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:58,640
Aaron got arrested. We've set you
a commemorative ornament of her mug shot.

1079
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:04,359
How do you sell that Karen car
Max only one owner? Besy was used

1080
01:17:04,399 --> 01:17:06,800
a few times, but other than
that, you got to get rid of

1081
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:11,520
the car. The kid does well? Whose car was it? I don't

1082
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,560
know the wife's and it's a family
you're selling that the next day. Let

1083
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,399
me ask you this. I can't
have my kids into Becksy where mommy was.

1084
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:26,079
Yeah, I know, squirting,
sorry for yeah, yeah, is

1085
01:17:26,079 --> 01:17:31,720
that a sippy cup that spilled their
mom? I uh, I was just

1086
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,479
thinking about this. I remember this
kid bragging to us that he made out

1087
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:39,560
with somebody's mom and the dad was
there. And I remember thinking at the

1088
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:45,119
time, like, I wonder if
I don't think it was that lady's first

1089
01:17:45,119 --> 01:17:49,399
time. Maybe it was, Maybe
it was, but I was I always

1090
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,560
go if it always plagued me,
like I used to think when I was

1091
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:57,680
married. Let's say I thought,
I'm not married now, but or technically

1092
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,840
I am. I'm legally separated,
but I'm technically married. But I thought

1093
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:08,079
if my kids were in college and
that happened, how upset would it be?

1094
01:18:08,159 --> 01:18:11,239
Or would I laughed that would rather
be a frat boy or the neighbor?

1095
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,680
And I'm going I think I wanted
to be a frat boy because I

1096
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,319
think there's less of a chance of
anything going further than that. The neighbor,

1097
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:23,960
well, I don't know. Well, I know, I mean making

1098
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,520
out at a bar years ago.
That was fun to do. You know,

1099
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,840
you got your little fixed. Nothing
happened, So I think I told

1100
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,079
this story. Well, Sean was
in the blue room. I remember one

1101
01:18:32,119 --> 01:18:35,680
time making out with a woman out
on the deck, and this guy came

1102
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:39,880
out and yelled at me, and
I said, you know, what's your

1103
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,880
problem. You were a boyfriend and
he goes, no, I'm her husband.

1104
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,760
Oh that did happen? She was, and then she divorced him and

1105
01:18:46,039 --> 01:18:49,399
got married to somebody else. But
that was a lot of drinking back then.

1106
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,720
I mean almost every night, and
especially on the weekend. Hey,

1107
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,359
what was I going to do?
Everybody? Everybody out and you know,

1108
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:01,920
my liver was telling me go talking
right bloated people? Would you know,

1109
01:19:02,039 --> 01:19:08,239
hang around and you do o'clock in
the morning. Oh yeah, there's a

1110
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:12,840
lot of great fire stories out there. Well, just some some weird,

1111
01:19:13,039 --> 01:19:15,800
weird stuff with this uh lady.
But it happens, and it still goes

1112
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,439
on. Yeah, and I go
every time he hits the news. You

1113
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:23,359
would think that somebody would. Can
we have a moment of clarity where you're

1114
01:19:23,359 --> 01:19:28,039
like to get caught? There's too
much This never fucking ends. Well that's

1115
01:19:28,039 --> 01:19:30,920
what should go through your head,
This never ends. Well, Uh,

1116
01:19:30,039 --> 01:19:35,439
we'll take a moment. I'm gonna
I've been trying to contact this uh kid.

1117
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:40,359
He is a kid kid, he's
a minor and I'm gonna see if

1118
01:19:40,399 --> 01:19:45,720
we can get this. What's his
deal is? He was in a little

1119
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,600
bit of trouble. Oh you did
say that. Yes, he was in

1120
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,680
a little bit of trouble. And
uh, I don't want to give too

1121
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,760
much more away until I actually get
him on and if if we don't,

1122
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,560
then what we'll do is we'll write
some questions to ask the ladies at the

1123
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,239
tally. Ho. Okay, I
got some ideas for and see, so

1124
01:20:05,279 --> 01:20:09,239
we can have a will she know
next time you run. We'll get to

1125
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1128
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1129
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1130
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1131
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1133
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1165
01:23:14,119 --> 01:23:19,680
Yeah? This day is just more
fun than should be legally allowed to be

1166
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:26,960
had. I've been uh, we're
drinking heavy. No. I saw a

1167
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,880
picture of the Guinness the other day. Yeah. I was at Thirsties and

1168
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,319
I took a picture of a perfectly
poored Guinness. I was sitting there with

1169
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:41,159
uh, some buddies watching the PGA
and betting on the holes. Yeah yeah,

1170
01:23:41,399 --> 01:23:44,359
just right, just there like a
dollary. Will you get up and

1171
01:23:44,399 --> 01:23:48,039
down? Will he hit par Will
you go? I'm saying, Bertie were

1172
01:23:48,039 --> 01:23:50,560
thrown a dollar. You've had it
a whole lot of fun, you know.

1173
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:56,560
Fan of Shuffler, I'm not really
a fan of even really golf.

1174
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,640
Yeah, I mean I I Tiger
was always one eight. I think Tiger's

1175
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,920
got one more to see him do
what he did. It was you know,

1176
01:24:04,199 --> 01:24:08,760
everybody jumped on that bandwagon in the
beginning with Tiger. Yeah, oh

1177
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,319
yeah, how could you not you're
crushing. The guy was crushing. Yeah,

1178
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,000
now you said have the tiger proof
courses. And now it's just weird

1179
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,520
to see him, like, you
know, what was he seventeen over?

1180
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:23,279
Eighteen over something like that. Yeah, Like he's had his back fused and

1181
01:24:23,359 --> 01:24:27,079
he's been through kinds of problems.
Well, he almost lost his leg in

1182
01:24:27,079 --> 01:24:30,680
that accident. Which one in the
accident where he went off the side of

1183
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,000
the in the canyon. Was that
in California? Yeah, okay, yeah,

1184
01:24:33,159 --> 01:24:35,680
they were. They said that they
all thought they were gonna have to

1185
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:40,399
amputate the leg. So the fact
that he's even walking, you know,

1186
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,880
three days of eighteen holes or four
days of eighteen holes is pretty Uh,

1187
01:24:44,199 --> 01:24:47,119
it's pretty impressive. Hey, Cliff
Clavin just walked by oxy contins and kinds

1188
01:24:47,119 --> 01:24:49,960
of drugs. Oh probably, I
would think that there's everything. You have

1189
01:24:50,039 --> 01:24:53,880
that much money, How do you
not have a twenty four hour limo?

1190
01:24:54,239 --> 01:24:56,439
Hey, I'm gonna go rip it
up. I don't want to drive.

1191
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,439
I thought you learned your lesson.
I mean, these people with all kinds

1192
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,680
of money, they get in the
car accidents or people kill people. Well

1193
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,159
that was wasn't his wife? Oh? That was when he was really I

1194
01:25:06,159 --> 01:25:10,680
remember the one where he's like,
yeah, well, there's a lot of

1195
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:16,319
conspiracy theories when he that accident that
his wife, uh, she did hit

1196
01:25:16,399 --> 01:25:19,159
him in the face with a club
because you didn't see him for four months

1197
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:25,079
and his teeth looked different than his
pictures. Yea, she and her back

1198
01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:29,000
in the back windshield was smashed out
by a club and she went crazy and

1199
01:25:29,039 --> 01:25:31,720
he's calling like that that Rachel Ucatel's
my favorite thing because he called her and

1200
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:36,079
somebody turned it into a slow jam
Take your name off my phone? Did

1201
01:25:36,119 --> 01:25:40,439
you ever hear that? No?
Oh, I gotta find take my name

1202
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:46,119
off your phone? Tiger Woods.
Hang on, I'm not going anywhere off

1203
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:56,680
your phone. This portion of the
Bilified program brought to you by Yeah,

1204
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:25,359
here's the slow jammery bases its tired. Why your home? So I don't

1205
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:29,760
understand what that means exactly be somebody
explained it to me once. So it

1206
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,960
would come up as her, but
if you took if she took her name

1207
01:26:32,039 --> 01:26:35,920
off of it, it wouldn't.
I don't know how that works, but

1208
01:26:36,039 --> 01:26:39,800
this was the call. Oh,
yes you can. You can come up

1209
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:47,079
as private or spam or something else. Can you take your man the women,

1210
01:26:47,159 --> 01:26:51,359
he add but he didn't discriminate.
Yeah, it was all on the

1211
01:26:51,399 --> 01:26:55,159
board, all over the board,
all over the board. He was.

1212
01:26:55,359 --> 01:26:59,119
He was a man of passion,
and I'll say that passion. She never

1213
01:26:59,199 --> 01:27:01,600
got married. I have had a
lot of problems with the the uh the

1214
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:05,960
tiger situation personally. Uh, not
for the reasons that you're gonna think.

1215
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,880
I think that this is none of
anybody's fucking business. And the fact that

1216
01:27:13,039 --> 01:27:17,359
this guy had to come out and
have a press conference that was packed with

1217
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:23,880
his mother sitting in the front of
rosters. When he came out and talked

1218
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,680
about all this that I thought it
was right before the mass I don't remember

1219
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,000
when exactly. It was just a
biography. Wanted him to apologize. He

1220
01:27:30,079 --> 01:27:32,520
goes, it's none of your business. But he did, Yeah, he

1221
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,760
did. He did. He came
out and he apologized. So there was

1222
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:40,000
this whole press and he said,
I thought, my Buddha faith and I

1223
01:27:40,039 --> 01:27:43,760
will get back to being this.
But your mom sitting in the front row,

1224
01:27:44,039 --> 01:27:46,000
and I'm going, you know,
that's my point with like the teacher,

1225
01:27:46,079 --> 01:27:50,079
we talked about, everybody in your
family, in your inner circle will

1226
01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:56,479
always know this about you forever you
were in the back seat at three o'clock

1227
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,279
in the morning with a seventeen year
old boy who ran away when the cops

1228
01:28:00,279 --> 01:28:04,520
showed up and you were naked.
That that is in print around the globe

1229
01:28:05,239 --> 01:28:11,119
and in their seared into the frontal
cortex of the brain of your family members

1230
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:15,800
from a biography. Yes, but
I I hated and so I go.

1231
01:28:16,079 --> 01:28:21,039
You take that the Omaha lady and
she doesn't have to get up and apologize

1232
01:28:21,079 --> 01:28:25,319
in front of everybody. With a
press conference and cameras and snapping. That

1233
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:33,359
room was fucking packed. I think
it was like some pr move whatever the

1234
01:28:33,399 --> 01:28:38,439
thing was. But it wasn't losing
popularity. Well people, there were people.

1235
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:42,279
There were some uh, there were
some women I had heard. I'm

1236
01:28:42,359 --> 01:28:45,359
so disappointed. And Tiger, well, you know what, it's it's none

1237
01:28:45,399 --> 01:28:48,520
of your business. I I will
sleeping with them, so don't worry about

1238
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:54,560
it. It's a strange world.
Doesn't do anything with your life with My

1239
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,199
father used to always say, it's
it's a strange world when you have to

1240
01:28:57,239 --> 01:29:00,800
declare your bedroom habits at the door, meaning that you have to identify as

1241
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,279
gay or you have to identify for
those people who don't want to say anything.

1242
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,800
Now, there were some people that, you know, the war,

1243
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:11,079
they're hard on their sleeve, and
if they did want to walk out with

1244
01:29:11,279 --> 01:29:15,920
their partner, you really couldn't do
that years ago without being shunned completely from

1245
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,399
society. We've sort of turned that
around. I remember people in the bar

1246
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,479
like, don't you feel for Tiger? Don't you feel for Tiger. I'm

1247
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:27,159
like, fuck Tiger. I'm like, this guy's got a billion dollars women

1248
01:29:27,279 --> 01:29:32,159
all over the world, and he's
he can hit a seventy two blindfolded boo

1249
01:29:32,319 --> 01:29:36,960
fucking who. I did feel bad
for Tiger because of that, just for

1250
01:29:38,079 --> 01:29:42,600
that one thing. Ever, down
there, you're one of the most most

1251
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,199
popular people walking earth. Yeah,
you know, every woman watch you.

1252
01:29:46,279 --> 01:29:50,880
You're very athletic, you're in your
prime wait for all that. In the

1253
01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:55,520
biography, Charles Barkley told him the
same thing. Yeah, don't get married.

1254
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,520
But the problem until you're thirty five
forty. He's such a nerd,

1255
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,359
and he said, like the way
he sounds as is the way I think

1256
01:30:02,399 --> 01:30:05,560
he really is. He's kind of
a point exture, you know what I

1257
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:09,960
mean, And that sort of I
had heard or read. I think Rolling

1258
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:14,840
Stone years ago did an article about
how Tiger Woods went backstage at a YouTube

1259
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,960
concert, but he had asked to
see the set list because he didn't know

1260
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,119
any of the songs. So when
they came back, you go, hey,

1261
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:24,199
man, love when you play Sunday, Bloody Sunday, that's such a

1262
01:30:24,279 --> 01:30:26,840
hit, right, I don't know. I just remember reading that and I

1263
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,960
think it was rolling Stone. So
your your whole life has been this.

1264
01:30:31,079 --> 01:30:38,439
I mean, he was one thing
forever. Usually the kids that are propelled

1265
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,520
like that, pushed like that.
You were on the Tonight Show at three

1266
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:45,000
years old doing your thing. That's
a stage daddy you had, right.

1267
01:30:45,079 --> 01:30:48,880
I mean he was really living vicariously
through the kid. A lot of times

1268
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:53,840
it blows up, the kid ends
up resenting, hating you doing it.

1269
01:30:54,279 --> 01:30:57,960
I mean, you know you were
lucky you got a kid who followed through

1270
01:30:58,039 --> 01:31:02,800
and absolutely, yeah he loved it. Yeah, it was great at it

1271
01:31:03,239 --> 01:31:08,520
and still is pretty good. But
I like the Scottie Shuffler. I was

1272
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,680
talking to my dad with he's,
uh, he's waiting for his first kid

1273
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,800
to be worn. Okay, I
think he's twenty six, got married,

1274
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:19,000
churchgoer, and I think I think
you're gonna see I think in sports some

1275
01:31:19,119 --> 01:31:24,920
of the more church and Jesus making
the comeback, which I think is great

1276
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:30,760
for today's society. What do you
mean, well, just to try to

1277
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:35,960
be more grounded and maybe think about
the ten commandments before you run off.

1278
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:41,039
You you've got people in football beating
their wives and all these accusations against them.

1279
01:31:41,279 --> 01:31:45,520
Then you've got young kids, mostly
from Penn State in the finals.

1280
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,319
After they win, they're wrapping their
they've got headbands. I love Jesus.

1281
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:53,199
Nothing wrong with that. No,
you know, no, I don't think

1282
01:31:53,239 --> 01:31:56,680
there was anything one of that.
I just definitely not. It's better than

1283
01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:00,199
being accused of forty four women,
you know, being raped and then having

1284
01:32:00,239 --> 01:32:04,439
the charges dropped and you're getting what
one hundred and sixty million dollars guaranteed the

1285
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:08,560
quarterback from the Browns and then it
didn't even work out. Oh yeah.

1286
01:32:09,239 --> 01:32:11,520
But there's a lot of little stuff
out there that you hear. With these

1287
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:15,640
pro athletes, I just think they're
untouchable. Well, the problem is that

1288
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,039
in athletics, and you can think
back to when you were in school,

1289
01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:25,039
the ones that were revered were the
ones who had athletic prowess, and so

1290
01:32:25,279 --> 01:32:30,079
all your life take it like when
you meet the guys at the NFL and

1291
01:32:30,159 --> 01:32:31,319
we go, well, how can
they act this way? They have been

1292
01:32:31,399 --> 01:32:38,199
treated like they were they walked on
water since they were little kids, because

1293
01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:42,279
they were better at something than anybody
else. And I always say, do

1294
01:32:42,359 --> 01:32:46,319
you know how good you have to
be to suck at the NFL? Do

1295
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,960
you know how good you have to
be just to get the shot to get

1296
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:51,720
there, to get a try out, to get stiff, to have someone

1297
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,960
have your name on their roster.
You gotta be pretty. You got to

1298
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:01,960
be pretty damn good. And that
is a rural sport. So when I'm

1299
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,520
watching, you know, when I
when I see this, I always think

1300
01:33:05,039 --> 01:33:10,840
every guy who's playing, that's starting
in the NFL has been the best at

1301
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,920
every level they played all the way
through, and so they were always treated

1302
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,640
differently, always because that's what we
do. We revere sports athletes. And

1303
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,960
so when we hear about Stefan Diggs, he's a real asshole. He's a

1304
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:26,920
real pain. Yeah, well worse, you know. I mean, maybe

1305
01:33:27,319 --> 01:33:30,439
we we love the humble athlete.
Everybody does, but could you imagine who's

1306
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:33,359
going to turn out normal when everywhere
you went, You're like, hey man,

1307
01:33:33,399 --> 01:33:35,840
you're the best. Love when you
you know you're you're a hero.

1308
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:43,479
You're a hero from the time you
were Pop Warner was crazy. I don't

1309
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,720
know. I'll tell you what when
I want. My kid played in high

1310
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:47,520
school and then to Division one.
Yeah, but Mike kid played in Alabama,

1311
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,760
right, and he was on a
twelve under team. And I watched

1312
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:56,199
the way they treated the kids that
were good, and it is the same

1313
01:33:56,319 --> 01:33:59,000
way I watched it with my own
eyes. There was this kid, they

1314
01:33:59,079 --> 01:34:00,119
called him Speedy. He was great. He was great. He was a

1315
01:34:00,119 --> 01:34:03,560
little kid, a great athlete,
great arm all the kids. The way

1316
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:09,720
the kids, the peers looked at
that kid was exactly how that'll go on

1317
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,359
for the rest of his life if
he keeps his athletic ability. What happened

1318
01:34:13,359 --> 01:34:15,079
to Speedy? I don't, I
don't. I don't know, because my

1319
01:34:15,159 --> 01:34:18,479
son stopped playing football. I actually
asked about Speedy and he told me Speedy

1320
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:23,560
was doing great. You know,
playing football had changed to receiver from quarterback.

1321
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:27,720
That was the only thing. But
uh yeah, I mean these so

1322
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,520
I go all your life, at
every level, you've been the best.

1323
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,520
What do you think is gonna happen? Right? What you gonna do.

1324
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,199
All right, Doug, I'm gonna
go out to the tally ho. We're

1325
01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:40,560
gonna ask the girls. Okay,
question number one, Yes, do you

1326
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:44,560
like short fit guys that are fifty
three years old? Maybe not that one.

1327
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:45,880
Can I slide that in there?
Yes? I like it. I

1328
01:34:46,039 --> 01:34:54,680
like that. What's best about a
guy his looks, his physique or his

1329
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:58,039
bank account? All right, I
can throw that in there, Yeah,

1330
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,560
physique, a bank account. Because
I was thinking like, this would be

1331
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:04,079
will she know? Much like we
played the last time, so it would

1332
01:35:04,079 --> 01:35:09,279
be things like, uh, the
first atomic bomb was dropped on what Japanese

1333
01:35:09,319 --> 01:35:13,000
city? Will she know it or
not? No? I could probably say

1334
01:35:13,039 --> 01:35:16,479
Kung Fu Panda. Well, I
hope she does. But I'm thinking questions

1335
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:20,239
like that. Who is the creator
of the classic book of characters Tom Sawyer

1336
01:35:20,239 --> 01:35:25,520
and Huckleberry finn Mark Twain? Yeah? Well Hiroshima? Right, but I

1337
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:30,239
like to Hiroshima? Yeah. Uh. What do you call the three trailing

1338
01:35:30,359 --> 01:35:33,319
dots that indicate a mission of on
a text? So no one will know

1339
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:40,000
this to be continued. Yeah,
well it's called the ellipses, yea.

1340
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:48,079
The three dots what force pulls objects
towards Earth's core and keeps humans from floating

1341
01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:53,720
in the sky. Gravity, It
would be did you have to ask in

1342
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:58,399
a question? Did you just ask
that as a question? Is that gravity?

1343
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:04,520
Well? I was watching Jeopardy where
a woman in a woman made the

1344
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:11,920
ten and final history of money grabs. I think ninety seven thousand dollars.

1345
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,760
Wow. Yeah, that's pretty damn
good. Yes it is. So there's

1346
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:19,439
a kid that I had yesterday.
We mentioned I'm trying to see if I

1347
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:26,159
can get him on he uh,
he got himself in some trouble at his

1348
01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:30,079
school. He had made some fake
email accounts. The school realized they were

1349
01:36:30,119 --> 01:36:34,720
fake email accounts, and he was
trying to get other kids in trouble for

1350
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:41,439
doing things whatever. It sounded like
silly kid stuff. And then he somehow

1351
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:45,479
faxed so they said facts you can
fax from computers. But this sounded like

1352
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,720
there was a cover page. So
I don't know if he went to Kinkos

1353
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:55,119
or anywhere, but he faxed in
as the principal and faxed in his resignation

1354
01:36:55,239 --> 01:37:00,319
letter as the principal. And apparently
this kid is messed with the prinsual lot.

1355
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,840
But the dumb kid put his cell
phone number on the cover page,

1356
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,319
so they were able to figure out
who it was. So I want to

1357
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:11,119
talk to this kid so badly,
and I'm trying to see if I can

1358
01:37:11,199 --> 01:37:15,359
get him on. We've made contact, and I just I don't know.

1359
01:37:16,119 --> 01:37:20,399
In a way, he's my hero
because I always go the kids. Those

1360
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:24,720
are the kids that were told a
lot of times, you'll amount to nothing.

1361
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:29,319
It's the classic movie, you know, it's always the wise ass he

1362
01:37:29,399 --> 01:37:32,079
amount to nothing. I had a
kid in school that was a little bit

1363
01:37:32,119 --> 01:37:38,359
younger than me, and he was
in accelerated classes, so he would be

1364
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,000
like in if he was in ninth
grade. He was taking chemistry or something

1365
01:37:42,079 --> 01:37:45,079
right, which in my school he
couldn't take to you or junior. So

1366
01:37:45,239 --> 01:37:49,600
this kid, he's in a biology
class and the teacher was a newer teacher,

1367
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,359
and she said, we're going to
have an end of year party,

1368
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:56,359
just like he did when you were
in elementary school. So somebody says,

1369
01:37:56,399 --> 01:37:59,680
can we bring in beer, because
that's what you'll ask when you're fourteen fifteen

1370
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,079
years old, and they, oh, my god, no, Well he

1371
01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:05,560
brings in the beer, or somebody
does. He gets a hold of it.

1372
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,079
They say, if you open that, you're in big trouble. He

1373
01:38:09,279 --> 01:38:14,079
opens it, and they wind up
throwing him out of a public school.

1374
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:18,920
Throwing him out so he didn't graduate. He had to go the only school.

1375
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,800
I think that once you were banned
by public school, I'm not sure

1376
01:38:25,079 --> 01:38:28,239
there was anyone that would take you. I'm not I don't know. And

1377
01:38:28,359 --> 01:38:30,560
we lived in it. There were
no other schools really in our area that

1378
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:35,600
you could go to. It was
the There was the largest school district in

1379
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:40,800
New York State per square mile,
two hundred square miles for the Pine Plain

1380
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:46,239
Salers School school one school, two
hundred square miles everything, football team,

1381
01:38:46,319 --> 01:38:48,079
no, no, no, no, no, it was two hundred square

1382
01:38:48,199 --> 01:38:51,520
miles. When you're going around,
it just means like area wise, that's

1383
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:55,479
what it covered in square miles.
No, you were a half hour away

1384
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:59,600
from anything, Okay, So this
uh so there was no busting to get

1385
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:03,000
him anywhere else. So this kid, he was probably sixteen or something,

1386
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:08,880
drops out of high school, goes
to the community college, gets his ged

1387
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:15,119
gets his associate's degree, goes on
to NYU, learned Japanese, went and

1388
01:39:15,279 --> 01:39:19,680
taught over in Japan, and now
is some major financial rich motherfuckers. Wow.

1389
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:24,760
And I loved it because I go
that was a smart ass that everybody

1390
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:27,920
wrote off, as you know,
and he was in accelerated classes and things,

1391
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,319
but still paining the ass and all
this stuff. And I go,

1392
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:34,560
this kid who's messing with the principal, he'll probably become something we should if

1393
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:39,520
he takes that, you should keep
his name and every year but in your

1394
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,119
memory, so it pops up and
give him a call. Hey, what's

1395
01:39:42,159 --> 01:39:44,560
going on? Yeah, well i'll
have to see. I'm hoping I can

1396
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:46,800
get him on the podcast tomorrow.
Well, some of those people that just

1397
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:50,399
feel that I'm smarter than you and
can show it. I mean, like

1398
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,600
your friend or whoever was open the
beer, what are you going to do

1399
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,960
to me? Right right, right
right? Well, they threw him out.

1400
01:39:57,199 --> 01:39:59,159
That was it they were. It
was out. There was like a

1401
01:39:59,199 --> 01:40:03,079
whole uh because you though, I
think you have what's called a superintendent's hearing,

1402
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:08,119
so like they can only suspend you
for so many days, and then

1403
01:40:08,199 --> 01:40:12,880
if they feel like the punishment is
more severe than that or deserves a more

1404
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:15,239
severe punishment, they go to what's
called a superintendent's hearing. And if the

1405
01:40:15,279 --> 01:40:21,199
superintendent's hearing, usually whatever the worst
case scenario is is what happens. Because

1406
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:25,720
so they try to make it so
they bring in witnesses and it's like a

1407
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:30,359
real court hearing, but it's all
against you and your parents can be there

1408
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:35,800
and you're allowed to cross examine the
witnesses. It's a really uncomfortable process,

1409
01:40:36,279 --> 01:40:40,960
to say the least, and it
never ends. Well. You think that

1410
01:40:41,039 --> 01:40:44,359
superintendent's out in Omaha, are gonna
be talking about the teacher, like,

1411
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,159
hey, anybody get your pictures,
what do you want to do with this

1412
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:50,479
back in? But the superintendent at
this kid's school was in Baldwinsville. You

1413
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:56,720
know where that is. My father
knows, he knows a shortcut to Baldwinsville.

1414
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:05,960
He does fucking worst Riode I ever
took. We went to twenty years

1415
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:10,399
ago, we went to a family
reunion and he goes, we'll get there.

1416
01:41:11,159 --> 01:41:15,119
I know the shortcut through Baldwinsville.
Every side street had a stop sign,

1417
01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:17,760
and my father, being a school
bus driver, would stop, pause

1418
01:41:18,079 --> 01:41:25,079
and go down. And I'm in
the backseat looking at thirty seven stops forever

1419
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,520
and it's been a running joke for
forever. It was just it was just

1420
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:35,439
so long and agonizing. Well years
ago, the superintendent, Hi, Dad,

1421
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:45,399
of the uh yeah exactly. I
was, oh, God. Uh,

1422
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:56,279
the superintended at Baldwinsville was crowdsurfing at
some student event. The superintendent of

1423
01:41:56,399 --> 01:42:00,640
the Baldwinsville schools, okay, crowdsurfing, crowdsurfing, and then I believe that

1424
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:06,000
night got a d w I and
obviously lost his gig. But let me

1425
01:42:06,199 --> 01:42:11,399
let me see if I think I
have the story, uh, somewhere quickly

1426
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:15,079
where I can find it this,
Yeah, because there was a picture of

1427
01:42:15,159 --> 01:42:17,800
him and these they have the crowdsurfing. That's tough for teachers. You know,

1428
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:20,159
you want to let loose, but
you can't let anybody see it because

1429
01:42:20,159 --> 01:42:24,960
it's going to get back and it
hurts your reputation. And that's why you

1430
01:42:25,079 --> 01:42:28,239
go home, where you go out
where you know what I mean, how

1431
01:42:28,279 --> 01:42:30,560
far out can you go? I
mean, if you're a teacher in Fairport

1432
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,960
Darien Lake in a concert with everybody
else, Yeah, well, who's letting

1433
01:42:35,039 --> 01:42:39,960
looseake to go crowdsurfing at a high
school event? Who's letting loose to get

1434
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:45,680
in the backseat of a car with
a seventeen years levels of craziness? That

1435
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,920
was my question. Well, anyway, I'll find all this stuff. We'll

1436
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:53,319
see if we you know, anam
dot com is a billion dollar corporation.

1437
01:42:53,399 --> 01:42:58,479
It's just selling the same two or
three people every month. Oh, no

1438
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,000
it is not. No, it's
your neighbors. Yeah, it's probably you

1439
01:43:01,079 --> 01:43:03,479
know what it could be? What
it could be, Dave could be?

1440
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:10,760
No, you don't think so.
No, what do you mean you might

1441
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:15,239
be surprised I don't want to be
surprised that Elvis uniform. The uniforms Elvis

1442
01:43:15,319 --> 01:43:18,039
costume may have gotten more of a
workout than you even know. Yeah,

1443
01:43:18,079 --> 01:43:20,720
getting at it off. At that
time, he was too tired to do

1444
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:31,840
anything. I love me now it's
more. I love those chicken tenders.

1445
01:43:33,199 --> 01:43:36,479
What else is sweet and sour?
What else is going on in Doug's world?

1446
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:41,439
Before we wrap it up? Oh? What is going on? When

1447
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:43,479
are you giving shout outs? You
always give shout outs. You look in

1448
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:45,560
your mirror like roper room. You
give shout outs to the people who liked

1449
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:54,520
your picture. Yeah, I do, gosh, damn it. I might

1450
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,960
have a couple of comedy gigs coming
up in the mooslade and uh nice?

1451
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,239
Any other fun things he met a
lady? Nothing? No, I haven't

1452
01:44:03,239 --> 01:44:08,319
been out too much. No want
to well, golf season's coming, up.

1453
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,920
Yeah, so got to get in
shape for that. Yeah, I'm

1454
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,359
drinking more. Doug keeps wanting to
have a weight loss competition. Yes,

1455
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,640
and I forgot to bring in the
scale. I'll make a note to bring

1456
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:23,079
in the scale and I'll do it
with you. I'll do a weight loss

1457
01:44:23,119 --> 01:44:25,880
competition. But Doug's like, yeah, I gotta give it. Shows me

1458
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,439
a picture that popped up his memories. I go, who's that meaning?

1459
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:30,760
The other guy goes, that's me. I go, no, I know,

1460
01:44:30,239 --> 01:44:32,600
well it just mean like you know, I was about one hundred and

1461
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,640
eighty ninety pounds back then, nine
years ago. And I said, he

1462
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:40,239
goes, I'm working on it.
Well kind of it was the most defeated

1463
01:44:40,359 --> 01:44:43,159
way of saying I'm trying to lose. He was like, I'm working on

1464
01:44:43,239 --> 01:44:47,960
it. Kind of. We got
Jacque Michelle, we got Chris English,

1465
01:44:48,119 --> 01:44:54,479
Dave Turpin, Rick Mintz, Lee
Casey out there, Jerry Maynard, Robert

1466
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:59,600
Young, Mike Bliss, Dave McEntee, Rob Rice and robs In And there

1467
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,359
you go our followers. Baby,
we're growing. That's it, little by

1468
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:12,600
little, we're growers, not showers. It's always been my excuse by for

1469
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:19,079
Dougie film the house, house babyci
Moran will see you tomorrow. What to

1470
01:45:19,199 --> 01:45:26,560
do? I'm trying to do a
letter to you. A dandy stay