Hey, everybody, Welcome back to the episode of The Challenge, the podcast
all about the Challenge. As always, I am Brian Big look Sweetee,
apparently rewatching the challenge in his bedroom. Yeah, big look, sweet Tea,
Uh sitting I don't know, in her living room like always, Carlin
san Diego, I don't have clever stuff this week. Hey, in sax
here yay, Zachie Bananas. See, I entirely expected you to introduce him
like introduced me. Is like someone who had absolute no idea as to what
zach used to did at one point in time in his life. And the
man who tried out twice and almost made it onto the pickup artist in twenty
ten, Zaggie Bananas. But you know, whenever listen, gotta listen to
the pre show. You want to introduce everybody at all, you gotta listen
to the pre show to understand what we're talking about. Hey, everybody,
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This episode is episode eleven of All Stars season four. It's called Live,
Free or Stop or Die starred. Uh kind of into this title, right,
it's clever. Yeah, that's dumb. Time before we get to the
recap, I'm gonna get myself pound the back in a little credit here.
I bitched like two weeks ago about how Paramount Plus had unskippable ads. You
can now skip them. I'm giving myself full credit. I did it.
I did it. Yes, you're welcome. You're welcome, everybody that was
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right. I've just gotten so used to backing out and restarting it that
I didn't even notice you can skip it. There's now a skip button.
Yes you're welcome. Think of me every time. Every time you hit that
skip button. Just think thanks Tim. I'd like this part. This is
this was like the last time on All Stars, but it was sort of
like Leroy was like doing some production shit and like they were kind of goofing
around. I kind of like this, this is like kind of happy goofball
intro. What do you guys think? I skipped most of it? No,
I thought it was fine having anything special buzza that was kind of fun.
I just I didn't care jesus Z Colin's checking out of the season two
episodes early, she's like, Hey, I guess I just didn't care about
the last week on, So everybody's coming back into the house. Adam just
looks like just he just looks like shit. He just looks miserable walking back
into this house. This fucking piece of shit guy. You know, I
didn't realize it until this episode. But this episode, and I don't know
if it's been this entire season or if it's just this episode, since his
fucking tirade at the end of last episode. He the look on his face
and all of his confessionals in this episode was just like demonic. He looked.
He just looks so fucking livid the entire time. He's got this like
her and he's smirking, and it's just I, Yeah, how the fuck
is how is Avery dating him? Like her must be in the in the
fucking gutner to be dating that man. There's something very wrong with him.
And I've said it I think since the beginning of this, Like what drives
me nuts about him is he is inauthentic. Everything this guy says, I
don't believe it ever, And it's because of the contrast of like the the
you know, like the confessional where he just looks like a dick, and
then during the challenge he's got that fake smile plastered on. Yeah, and
he's all of his all of his solo scenes, he's doing yoga and he's
supers like, yeah, it just he's an idiot. So we've got basically
two factions of the house. You got Steve, Ace and Kara. They're
talking about like, fuck, Adam, that's his fault. He threw you
in. Of course you took his star. It was the only thing you
should have done. And then we have Adam and Ryan saying Steve betrayed me
for no reason. There you know, is there another chance to get the
star? I gotta take Steve's starr from him because he took mine. What
did you guys think about these dueling conversations who's right, who's wrong on the
carra and Steve's side of it, because it's a game, like that's the
point of this game, and you threw him in there, And they also
made the point of this is the third time that he has voted Steve in.
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I thought this one time
was enough to justify it. But when I heard him like he's led you
in all three times. It's like, Okay, that's and I mean,
yeah, slight slight credit on Adam's side for voting him in purely for the
fact of yes, Steve did fail miserably enough in enough challenges to cause himself
to be in the bottom, but you don't have to vote for him every
fucking time. Yeah. I just don't like the hypocrisy of of you know,
like acting like him and Steve were best buds, like, oh yeah,
we were friends, we were we were until the last vote rules together,
blah blah blah. Yeah, it's very it's self serving. It's oh,
Steve's the best guy ever, as long as he's as long as he's
putting up with me throwing him in all the time. But if he pushes
back a little bit, like fuck that guy, sit and spin bitch,
you know, it's like, fuck fuck you, Adam Jesus Christ. Yeah,
the ship that the vitriol that was coming out of his mouth is just
weird. Full one eighty from what he has been saying up until the end
of last episode. Yeah, full one eighty from the entire rest of the
season. Like I read a few things on like the Reddit and all that
sort of thing where people are just kind of like, where the fuck did
this Adam come from? Like I liked him up until this point, and
he was totally fine in my book up until this point, and then the
ship that just come out of his mouth is just surprising. Took everything I
had not to look him up on social media and then tell him he's a
whiny bitch. He is a whiny, whiny fucking bitch. He's been liking
our Instagram stories, so yeah, you feel free to just post an Instagram
story. He'll see it. Uh. Leroy joins the fight. Can we
can we just cut this as a clip? And I was going to say
something like that after we were done, all right, perfect? H Leroy
joins in the hating of Adam's speech, which is kind of like we don't
normally see Leroy participating in conversations like this, but he pretty much says the
same thing, like, fuck Adam. Of course, of course you took
his start. It was the only thing to do, you know. He
I appreciated this because this was not the first time in this episode that he
did it. He did it here, I know, and he also did
it later and agains sucks for you, loser. Yeah, and it's we
don't see Leewer like this often, so he must also really not like Adam
for some reason, either really not like Adam or he has finally learned like
you need to not be the good guy all the time. Yeah mm hmm.
But generally all of them, every single person in the house is also
talking about like, well, half the house has stars, the other half
doesn't, so what the fuck is next? They all kind of know we
got to be closing in on the end, so how are we gonna do
this? We get Flora. Finally, we see Flora, and she basically
says, like, why am I still here? Uh? Yeah, why
is she still there? Like fucking wall But she's still there because she's wallpaper,
because she hasn't done enough this entire fucking season to make anyone think like,
oh maybe we should vote for her one way or the other. She
has literally been wallpaper this entire season. She's not a threat, so she's
just sort of there. I've been trying to get rid of like a month
on my fans, and I should have just gave her to ten. That's
why she had done Please, I don't think I would have I might have
got collected another two or three points throughout the season. If you might have
collected another two or three points throughout the season, but then you would have
had yet another person on your team who quits the challenge. Well, we'll
get into that negative fifty. We'll see, we'll see if that counts as
a real quick let's we'll get there, we get there. We have this.
Yeah, absolutely quit. There are there are very few quits that are
not quits, and there for things that like like the season that Jimmy went
home because her father was in the hospital and dying, things like that are
not quits. Yeah. The reason why Tony went home, he was he
was having his brother was having trouble in the hospital or whatever. Yeah,
a little bit less of a quit, but like should no, right,
we'll get into home. Yeah. Yeah. We have this weird scene of
Nicole and Laurel. They're they're talking over coffee and stuff. Is this it's
all very weird. I skipped all of this. Good. It's very uncomfortable
watching these two. Yep. They were they were role playing, yep,
which is why I skipped all of it because I want to see nothing of
it. Because it's all bullshit. It's carln it's half bullshit. Nicole is
bullshit. I think Laurel is in. Laurel is one you're you're right,
it's half bullshit. Yeah, it's Laurel's one back in because yeah, Laurel,
I'm just gonna skip ahead yet again, because there's another thing she says
later on that makes it very apparent Laurel is one hundred percent back in and
Nicole is just being a fuck girl. All it is yep, And it's
so it's hard to watch because it's so obvious, and Laurel is just there
like not not seeing it. It's just so hard, that's what she said.
It is a the hard we're like, how no, I I love
Laurel more than Nicole, but also partly is like giddy about getting to see
their their union somewhere like the moment where like Laurel falls back to Earth and
realizes they don't do really for All Stars, it would have already been taped
and this happened like a year and a half ago. So what happens so
we never get to see I've seen some social media stuff. Oh get to
that the social media section, All right, Well, with that, guys,
we are already into the challenge. Hold On, wasn't prepared. We
go, oh, all right, So they're at the challenge, uh and
TJ basically tells them, Hey, I've been saying all season you need that
fucking star So if you don't have it, you're in trouble. If you
do have it, like stand over there, you're fine. Uh. So
the star holders are car of Aron, Nicole, Leroy, Steve, and
Ace. They do not have to participate in today's challenge. The others do.
So. The others are Adam, Flora, Derek, Avery, Ryan
and Laurel. They're battling it out. There's gonna be two winners, one
man, one woman. They both get gold stars right to the final.
It's what we've been figuring all season, right, Yeah, I still fucking
hate it. I want I so badly, so badly want a challenge where
they do something with this, where everybody has to have stars or skulls or
whatever the fuck it is to be able to make it to the final.
And then this last challenge. He splits him up and tells the star holders,
oh, you can go stand over there. Everybody else, Audios go
home. I so badly want that drama that would ensue would be fucking great.
You should have been like, hey, guess what, you didn't listen?
Why yep, this is complete your time here on the Challenge. But
of course it has to be. It has to be in a season where
they have a reunion, because the only drama that the drama. I could
see the drama blowing up in the reunion of people being like we thought for
sure that it would be like every other season where there were still one more
set of stars or whatever to come in, like and then he just dumped
us all on the side of the road. Oh so badly wanted so badly
pick him out of the RV. See you. Yep. So my my
only Devil's Advocate position to this is I and I hate that I'm playing this
role, but you take Adam right. Adam just had his star stolen.
He has no chance to get it back, and TJ is just like bye,
can you say like that? Can you see like not quite fair?
I get that it's not quite fair, but that's we have. It has
been said so many times on this podcast. The Challenge is not a fair
game. It has never been a fair game. There has always been these
ridiculous little things that piss us all the fuck off because it's not fair,
but that's just what this game is. Should have voted somebody in who you
knew wouldn't steal your star. There's also that. Yeah, so a long
time since I watched it, but didn't we kind of get that the end
of the island when their people are there, just like, oh, you
don't have your work. Yeah, kind of that's what I want. Yep.
Ryan talked about he was he was one of those. Yeah, he
just had to stand there and watch everybody else do the ship and he just
stood there. Remember Robin was one too. She just she just had to
stand there and watch. It was great. Yeah. They also had it
where they could pick their they picked the teams, and Paula got voted off
of the team that she thought she was gonna be part of, didn't get
picked for the team was part of. So yeah, yep, you did.
I was gonna say, I wasn't there to defend Bananas, so there's
no defending that man and that challenge. I mean purely for the shot in
Freuda. I do really love that they had to compete in this challenge and
that did Tim freeze for everybody else he did. He did Tim, Tim
is frozen in a very very very happy looking face. Uh No, So
purely for the shot and Freud. I liked watching this because watching Adam be
like, I'm coming for you, I'm I'm I'm here, just a clown
on Steve like this that and the other Steve's a fucking asshole. I can't
stand him, blah blah blah blah blah. Purely would have him say all
of that and then not get a star. Was just, Oh, it's
great to watch. Oh, we have lost him. Hopefully he comes back
him because he's the man with the notes tonight, right. Um, otherwise
there's not there's not a lot of notes we need. It's like ninety challenge.
Oh Tim just said the storm call is internet. He thinks, oh
that's fun. Yeah, do zim remember what happened in the challenge? Well,
so the game is the challenge is kind of dumb. Yeah. The
game is b start Open Star. I think it's Open Star. So basically,
the six players have to they start in the woods and they have to
run down a path to a tree that has a big giant floaty attached to
it with a big giant rope wrapped around the tree, so they have to
unwind the rope and get the floaty off of the tree, and then paddle
the floaty to a big giant star star baring. That's what it's called.
Have to paddle the floating out to a big giant star in the middle of
this lake. And keep in mind, the six challengers who are safe are
off to the side and don't have to don't have to, they can watch
all of this happen. They're drinking. I think they're playing some like you
know, like camp games. Yeah. Uh. Veronica is super happy that
she can be off to the side drinking, and she complains that it's really
hot, but she says she would rather be sitting here in all black drinking
wine than out there doing that exactly. Everybody else congratulates her for her excellent,
excellent gameplay. She literally did nothing to get her star and then didn't
have to do anything to keep it the entire game. But yeah, so
they've had a lot to the star in the middle of the thing. They
have to there then get a key and paddle back into back onto land.
And once they get to land, they have to unlock a big giant box
full of like wet oats or something, quicksand pretty much yeah, and find
a star in this giant trough of gross whatever. And the first man and
woman to find their star are in the final. Everybody else goes home.
It's literally it. It's just sort of like, yeah, yeah. Time's
note says that it's a mini final, which it is kind of a mini
final. It's a mini mini mini final. There's like running involved. Yeah.
So they they're all lined up at the starting line and TJ says,
okay, everybody ready, and then Flora stands up and says, no,
I you know, I'm I'm not feeling it. I'm gonna go home.
And she complains about how she's not like the last few challenges she's ended up
battered and bruised and whatnot. And yeah, So to Tame's point, do
we consider this a quit? Yes? Yeah, TJ says, normally I
hate it when people quit, but it is what it is. Yeah,
I absolutely call this a quit. You you are part of this game.
I don't care if you are amazed that you're still there at the end.
Like, the whole point of this game is to make it to a final.
That you should still at least try. And then did you notice that
she started limping as she was walking away? I did? I know.
I saw that and was like, this is entirely being played up for the
for the show to be like, oh look, I am really really injured.
Like no, everybody. Everybody got beat up in these challenges, Like
yeah, are you talking about after Jordan won Dirty thirty with basically a broken
leg, Like, yeah, that is an excuse. Yep, oh you
got bruises? Yeah, because I read an interview with the challenger who is
in this who they did not talk about on the show that they were injured
for pretty much the entire season. Who's this Ryan? It's Ryan Broke is
classical, but but he was having colorbone issues. Yep. Yeah. He
did an interview with Entertainment Weekly. He said he it's the episode where Tina
is using the dish soap to like fly down the water slide. Apparently he
fell and busted busted his collar bone. It wasn't even in a challenge.
Oh that sucks. And then he production kept trying to get him to go
do an X ray and he kept saying no, he knew they would,
they would send him home. Yeah, yep, and then he said he
said land on top of that. Then when they did the the thing with
the like the bobbleheads where you had to like go down the racetrack, that
I think it was brand I think he says Brandon's half flew off and landown
someone's car behind him and like jammed it so they couldn't hit their brakes.
So when he got to the bottom, this person just rear ended him full
speed and like whiplashed him on top of that. That sucks, and says
Ryan with his shoulder, I broke that story last week. I wasn't here,
Ryan, Yeah it was. It was talked about last week. I
didn't. We didn't talk about when it happened or what actually happened, So
it's good to know. Ryan also says Flora was a loser major quit.
Chris says Flora was a waste of a challenger this season one hundred percent agree,
and Mandy says that the limp too much. Yep, yep, I
agree with that one too. Yeah. So oh also, Avery has a
talking head while Flora is quitting and hugging everybody and does a like a you
know, she was a great challenger and she did such a good job this
season and blah, blah, what are you? She was literally wallpaper.
She did nothing this entire season. She was a waste of space in this
show. Like, I don't understand why she was there. I don't get
it. It doesn't make sense. Also, none of the challengers that were
sitting off to the side ask once, oh, what happened to Flora?
Where's Flora? Why isn't she there? Why are there only five not one
of them? Yeah, I'm sure that they watched her like walk out of
the I'm sure that they knew, but it's still like, for continuity reasons,
it was kind of like you, no one's saying anything, like,
no one's gonna clown her at least a little bit. But whatever. Yeah,
the guys, everybodys sitting off the side is saying they're asking about somebody
asks about Derek, and somebody else is yeah, he's a legit threat,
which being that Derek was the first one out of the woods because he runs
fast as fuck. I agree. And also we learned during this challenge that
apparently I think he said at the end that he's won more daily challenges than
any of the other men. This season YEP. Nicole and Kara also talk
about how good Laurel is, and Nicole's like, yeah. In her talking
head, she says something along the lines of, you know, I'm really
excited. I really want Laurel to win and then she can come to the
final with me. And then it dawns on her. You can see it
in the in the confessional, it dawns on her that that means that she
has to compete against Laurel in the final, and she's like, oh shit,
Laurel's really good at finals, Like, oh yeah, maybe you should
have fucking sent her home or put her in an elimination weeks ago, figured
out a way to keep her from getting a star like you, Maron,
just because you were getting your dick wet. She's been getting your clit wet,
getting your clit wet. We're gonna get with that one owners all of
the above. Ummm, yeah, Kara wants Laurel and like he wants to
compete up against Laurel in the final because she wants it. It'll prove once
and for all who is the better of the two, which I really hope
she doesn't have to eat her fucking words, really really really hope she doesn't
have to eat her fucking words. We're really mad if that happens. Ultimately,
Laurel and Derek are leading for this entire game. I did kind of
appreciate at one point in time, Laurel tells that tells Derek that Adam is
catching up behind him on the paddling bit. Avery is way way back there
for this entire thing. Ryan is also way back there for this entire thing.
She keeps spitting in circles. Yep. Uh. We get a when
Derek and Laurel when they ultimately win the challenge, Steve has a talking head
saying that Laurel was genetically created in a lab in twenty three forty two purposely
to come back and in time and dominate challenges. Sounds accurate. Yeah.
This is also when we get Lee saying, uh, sucks to be you,
Adam loser, which was great to watch. Uh. And then this
is where the earlier when we were talking about Laurel and Nicole in the kitchen
and how Laurel is definitely all in on this thing, this is where it
really kind of sinks in that she's totally all in on the Nicole thing because
she says that she in old challenges, she used to be super selfish,
and in this challenge she she has really opened her heart to new friendships and
new relationships, Like you're still selfish, but you also opened yourself up to
an old relationship and has fucked over an old friendship. So, you know
whatever, I just Laurel's just an ass and I have some issues with her.
It's just a fucking asshole. I believe shows Kara an apology for screaming
at her. Yeah, I don't know that she will ever not o Kara
an apology. Yeah, Ryan, Avery, and Adam all leave. Adam's
got a huge fake smile on his face. We don't get any more confessionals
from him, saying like, oh shucks, it would have been I just
major Shodenfred of watching him lose God it was great, um. And then
they cheers to you know, hey, cheers the final run the final with
all you guys, and Veronica says, who says we're running it, we
might be crawling it, you never know. It's a big laugh at of
everybody, and then they're back in the house. So back in the house,
they have dinner set up with place cards for everybody or cards for Everybody.
Tim says dinner cards, dinner with weird cards with awful handwriting, which
I didn't notice because I was watching it on my phone while it worked.
Ace talks about making it to the final in The Inferno seventeen years ago,
and he says that he thinks he he'll win. Derek says that he's won
four times. Oh, he's won four challenges, more than any male,
so he thinks he's winning. Lee is more motivated than ever because of Kingston,
so obviously he thinks he's gonna win. Veronica hasn't won a challenge since
her first challenge was in two thousand and five, so they might have to
oil her up at the starting line, give her some WD forty. At
first I thought that like she was talking about like oil on her skin.
I didn't get the creaky joints thing. I think I stopped paying attention to
her she started talking. Probably don't. I don't remember that. I just
I mean, it's it's one of those things that, like you can tell
Veronica is just happy to be there. It's like I get to drink wine
and just hang out. But they do make a point, like multiple times
in this episode to say that TJ has said that anyone, and TJ makes
a point as well to say that anyone can win this final, So it's
kind of like a, oh, well, maybe Veronica actually does have like
a semi decent chance, but whatever. TJ shows up the next morning in
an RV and surprises the hell out of everybody. They're all on just regular
street clothes, hanging out. He's like, I told you to be ready,
You're not ready, yep. Tell everybody to go get changed, to
grab their stuff and meet them meet him in the RV. Uh yeah,
the RV is winding down mountain roads playing the song from National Lampoon's Vacation.
Did not know that. I just knew that it was they were driving in
an RV. There's lots of it's there's a whole bunch of little vignettes of
them like do you when are we? Are? We almost there? We're
going too fast? Can I use the bathroom? Shitters fall blah blah blah
blah blah. Lots of little little quips like that. But TJ's driving this
entire time, which I thought was kind of fun, is funny. Yeah,
I enjoyed when uh when He's like, Laurel, stop poking your sister.
Yeah, they finally arrive at the old abandoned warehouse. This finals apparently
going to be taking part of the place in her place. Whatever. Trying
to read someone else's notes and say these things out loud is difficult. TJ
says that being that being on an All Star isn't about just athletics, but
it's about strategy, alliances, and intellect. This is when he talks about
you know, anybody can win, and that there are currently six stars or
eight star holders, but by sunrise we will be down to four. And
it's like late afternoon at this point in time. So there are a few
different types of checkpoints. There are advantage checkpoints and there are elimination checkpoints.
This one is an advantage checkpoint and it's called Shooting Star. So the game
is there's a drift car and you are strapped to the top of it with
a paintball gun with one hundred paintballs in it. You are then driven around
this course insane speeds, drifting around corners and whatnot, and you have to
shoot at stars around the course. Most of the stars are worth one point,
but there's a hidden target that's worth two. This is where Laurel says,
as the drift car comes in, Oh, he's ripping ass And it's
not what that means, Laurel. Yeah, that was my thought too,
like that's that has never been what that has meant in my life. But
okay, I mean, it is kind of fun to see the car come
around, but obviously they are much more excited than than I was about it.
And did anybody else notice that Laurel was very like WU girl in this
entire thing. She was this is so cool, I can't wait. She
sounded like Sarah Rice. Wow, she did. She was so excited about
this entire thing. This is the first time I have ever seen Laurel that
excited about something. Chris points out the driver may have been farting. We
don't actually know. I mean, this is true, but I doubt that
they would have been able to tell that from as it's ripping around these corners.
But you know, so they all take their turns Lee gets off and
says that Lee is the first person to go in this He's also the first
person to go in the next one, which I found kind of weird.
And when he gets off, because this is the coolest challenge I have ever
done. He also says since no one said it or saw it, he's
gonna make everybody think that it's harder than it was. So he kind of
tells them, you know, I had a lot of trouble trying to hit
stars, like he's really ripping around the corners. It's really hard to shoot
things like I hope I did. Well. Yeah, very smart, very
very smart. And you know, they all go through it, and I'm
pretty sure Kara didn't hit like anything she did reel not good. So ultimately
Leroy is the one who wins the advantage in this one. It's between him
and Laurel, right me, it's him and Laurel, Yes, maybe,
and Leroy wins the advantage. So the next checkpoint is called Electric Star and
it's inside the building, and again the competitors don't get to watch the person
who's doing it. So there's a metal star that like outline of a star
that is, it has a live wire attached to it, So it's kind
of like if you get shocked by a cattle prod that sort of thing,
and you have a ring on a stick that you have to move around this
outline of a star and try not to touch the actual star because you'll get
shocked. Yeah, so Leroy, his advantage is that he gets to start
a quarter of a way through the the star and yeah, which is pretty
good. And then everybody else's start at the beginning and he makes it through
this thing without touching it once. Pretty impressive. Yeah, it looked really
simple and but but at the end of it, he's, oh, am
I done? Can I unhook you? Guys? Take like get rid of
this ground wire to like, you know, just in case gets shot.
They don't want they don't want it to kill anybody, safety crushings, all
that sort of thing. And he lets out this like really guttural scream,
and everybody out in the front is, oh my god, what's happening?
Is I was I was excited about it. So we're kind of everybody kind
of has their own strategy for this. Yeah, what a fucking master.
So Ace comes up and says, you know, I grew up in the
country. I have been shocked by uh electric fences, Like you know,
it hurts, not great, but I'm going for speed. So I'm gonna
touch this thing the entire way and just don't care. Sapping the entire way
through this fucking awesome. Oh it was great because I grew up in the
country too, and I've touched an electric fence before. Yeah, it doesn't
feel great. Doesn't mean I would want to do this like that quickly.
Yeah, No, I don't think I would have the ACE thing, but
I do think I would be more on the Veronica side of things. So
Veronica goes through it, well, actually, let me back up. Nicole
goes through it, and Nicole is fucking terrified at being shocked, and she
goes through it, gets shocked like two or three times, and then comes
out balling in and like immediately goes to Laurel, is wrapped in Laurel's arms
and is just balling, and in her confessional tries to say like, oh,
yeah, I was I was putting on an act. No, no,
you are. I don't think she is that good of an actress.
I think those were real tears. I think that was a real breakdown.
I do not think that that was all an act. I think she's trying
to play it off like it was an act because she's a firefighter and doesn't
want to get clowned on by all the guys in the In the fire departm
meant, but I agree, I do not think that was an act fair
enough. Kara's not super. No one else is getting super thrilled on being
shocked. But Veronica comes in and is like, I used to get shocked
as a kid for fun, Like, right, this is this is nothing.
So like she goes through it is super calm and collected, gets shocked
like three or four times, makes absolutely no noise for all of it,
gets through, the whole thing gets out, and everyone's like, did you
get shocked? Yeah? Did it hurt? No? Everybody's so confused.
Yeah, well, I mean I think of like like I have a shot
and don't at me. I have a shot collar for the dog. She
doesn't wear it all the time. She used to wear it a lot when
she was younger. Most of the time it was just on the vibrate setting.
But like I tried it on myself first. It doesn't feel great,
but will fee your face poor puppy. Hey, she reasons it was necessary.
She's fine, it was never more than like a two, and it
went up to one hundred. Like, yeah, getting shocked doesn't feel great,
but it's also not something to like be fucking terrified of like they're not
going to do a shock that's so hard that it's going to kill you.
Well, then there's the flashback they show of Kara. Yeah, one challenge
they thought they were going to go in and she's like, oh, I
got a battery back at home. I hook it up and put it on
my nipples all the time. Yeah. It was like oh all right,
yep, Yeah, that was the challenge where they hooked a bunch of batteries
up to it like a steel a piece of fencing, and they were like,
yeah, we're gonna attach you to this and this, that and the
other. After somebody, like multiple people had just gone home, and then
he just says, ah, just kidding you guys. Get the night off.
Came out like an apron, Yeah, like from Saw Like it was
a it was a gruesome looking challenge, greusome looking elimination, but it was
it was fun. I guess it was a challenge whatever. Oh that's right,
it wasn't eliminate. It was Cook was the one that was going to
go into it, right, Yeah, that's what Kara was explaining, like,
oh, it's fine, Like I have battery pack, I hook it
up to my nipples all the time. That's all this is. It was
pretty funny. Oh yeah, he's got it. In here, Kara talks
about hooking batteries to her nipples. Yep, yeah. Oh, he also
says in here, Nicole says she's fake crying. He's a scare attacked,
a mechanism to win. Yeah. I don't think that was real. Yeah.
Veronica goes super super super fast, and then they t J comes out
and says, Okay, the bottom two were Derek and Laurel, and that's
where the episode ends. Who do you think it is? I really fucking
hope it's Laurel. God, I hope, but it's Laurel. I hope
it's Laurel. Me too, because I love Derek. But I think it's
gonna be Derek. M He's his mark. This season has just been so
much fun to watch, and she's just been such an asshole and he just
with all of the confessionals and everything, with how much they focused on her
in this past episode, they got to really, really really hope that it's
just foreshadowing that she's going home. God, I really want her to go
home. I don't think she's going to but I really want her to well,
it looks like we're never getting ten back. Uh so do we have
predictions on next week's episode? But he's gonna win. I'm kind of hoping.
Karl Wentz, Oh, this is a big redemption season for her.
I am too. I hope she wins as a redemption season. I hope
she wins to rub it and Laurel's face. I hope she wins to rub
it Nicole's face. I hope Nicole goes home on the next checkpoint, like
I just yeah, I wouldn't mind it if Leroy won. Yeah, I
really want to see a Steve win. Yeah, we know you do.
Where Derek, I'd be happy with that. Oh, that was one thing
that I didn't even realize. They're all on the boat at one point or
on a boater, they're all together at one point in time. And Laurel
mentions that she and Kara of this entire group were the only two that have
won challenges either or one eliminate won a challenge, Yes, thank you.
Hasn't Veronica didn't she win a few times when she like way back in the
day. I believe so? Or was she just in finals? I don't
remember. I don't know, tell Us Chevron. Yeah, but there are
a lot of people that made it to this final. Chris says, Bronica
has won three times. Yeah, that's right, that's right, she won
three times. But it was always with group Challenge. It was always back
in like back in the day when they were doing the like jumping jack challenges.
But yeah, they have of the six people that are eight people that
make it to the final, five of them have never won before. So
it was was this, does this one count since an All Star season?
I think so. I don't like to count All Star seasons, but I
think most people do. I mean, I guess they're a little bit different,
like maybe the I don't know. I waffle back and forth because I
feel like they I feel like this season it's maybe not. I don't know,
see I'm waffling even right now, because like sometimes they do feel like
a real challenge, because like some of the games do feel very real.
But then again, like this season especially, it was very apparent that they
weren't quite as competitive as the real challenge, Like you don't have to be
in as good a shape as everybody who shows up to the Real Challenge,
usually Zen in order to win. But I don't know whatever we know.
Did Tim make a a song Patreon song for this, I'm sure he did,
But he's not answering the my text asking how things are going over there,
so no idea. He's probably trying to figure out the whole no Internet
thing. Ryan thinks all stars count. I don't know. I thought he
also thinks the Champs Stars counts. I do not think the Chances Stars count.
I do not either. But who was it? Johnny had some of
us podcaster, Oh it's Carra, like a few weeks well, at the
beginning of the season. Okay, okay, robot, hold on, I
have to say that all again. Can you hear me now? Yeah,
okay, I don't think they count because I know Carra was on Johnny's podcast
at the beginning of the season and she talked about how, like, you
know, it's so nice because they get like properly fed, they get their
phones, like, they get more time in contact home, it's shorter.
It's like she's like all the things that make it difficult to like be in
the house are gone. Yeah, So I mean that's that's what I mean.
Like I waffle back and forth because there are a lot of creature comforts
that they don't get in the regular challenge that they get in this one.
But that's also part of the draw for things like this, So I don't
know. This one was definitely significantly more enjoyable to watch than the regular challenges.
Agreed. And I don't know if it's just because we have all the
people that we enjoy watching, or if it's the gameplay, or if it's
all of it. I'm inclined to say it's all of it, but you
know whatever, Yeah, s'son finale. Yeah, so oh we should mention
we're doing it the day of next week. We are, it's the final,
We're going to do it on Wednesday. It's a Thursday. Yeah,
for no other reason, right, Carlan, no reason at all. I
totally didn't double book myself. Now I have friends coming into town on Thursday
morning, and the guys have been gracious enough to record on Wednesday night instead
of Thursday. So for everybody who enjoys joining in the chat room, please
join us on Wednesday night at eight pm rather than Thursday night, the night
of the actual of the release of the show, rather than a day later.
We are also, I think we're gonna do it as a Colin show,
maybe we will. Tim's in charge of that. Yeah, that might
be a game time decision. But if you are really into joining the Colin
Shows, maybe trying to be there, because there's a good chance that Tim
really likes the Colin Shows, so there's a good chance that we can make
that work as long as there's no storm that knocks out his internet anything else
we have to what do you get the patreon head ever to challenge pot dot
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Joy buddy. So normally I say thanks you all keep our lights on,
but this time we actually do have a reason to thank you guys, go
big announcement. If anyone would like to join us, you're welcome to we
are doing. We are going to Challenge Mania on August thirty first in Chicago.
All four of us will be there. If you are going to be
Oh, Tim says that he's not going to make it back all right.
If anyone would like to join or anyone's going to be at Challenge Mania in
Chicago, please please come join us because it would be great to see everybody
do it, you know, a mini Challenge Challenged meet up. Unfortunately,
tickets are sold out for the actual event, but we're thinking about potentially doing
I don't know something at the after party afterwards, which should be like in
the evening. Yeah, so you come hang out with us. Yeah,
see the important people exactly. Come come see us important people from the big
name podcast not from the small beans podcasts. Yeah. The big reason why
we have all decided to go is because the headliner of this event is Cetcho.
Who knows. Maybe ct will be at the after party. Would be
kind of fun. And thank you to all the patroons, patre patrons.
I can't talk to something for your contribution because it is because of you guys
that we are able to go. Yeah, it's a way for all four
of us to get together and to hang out with everybody. So yeah,
so we would love to see everybody. If you feel like coming to Chicago,
it would be really awesome. Uh, Chris wants to know. Are
we're going over the Fantasy on the regular podcast this week? Yeah, we're
not. Well, we are sort of, but we're sort of not because
Zach forgot his computer at home. Yeah. Before we do all that stuff,
we do have some feedback stuff to get into. Oh we'll wait,
But you weren't on last week's pod. But did you listen to it?
No, I don't. I don't listen to shit. I'm not on okry.
Well, I just forgot to check because it was announced last week and
I read the comment. But our number one fan, Michelle found us on
Instagram and sent us a message. Wow. Nice. Yeah, I'll copy
it and send it every day and let you say. Or you can listen
to last week's pod and actually listen to what it said. But yeah,
uh, well, eleven days ago on Spotify, Michelle f returned says thanks
for the shout out. I'm not in heat just bitchy had a shittier comment,
but left this one instead this time after I heard you guys enjoying my
BS, so thank you. And then on the episode come around and actually
likes us. Now is just leaving shitty comments because we enjoy them. Well.
Then on the episode Waiting for a Star to Fall, she commented this
podcast should be called Carra simpin a challenge podcast. We get it, your
car stands and everyone else's trash, give me a break. And then on
it was a good Jay Kelly said the paper rustling and other background noises,
which I assume was the stickers, Yeah, I'm sorry, we're just tracked.
It was reminiscent of lipsmacking from a prior host. Yeah, I'm so
sorry. I listened to that, and I apologize to everybody who's listening to
it. The first like twenty minutes I was doing, I had lots of
plastic things on my lap that were I was very rustling with. I apologize
that annoyed the fuck out of me too. I'm sorry. Also, Zach,
at one point in time later on in the show, did you weren't
muted and we could hear things that were going on around you. So just
to keep ahead eye out, I will endeavor to not have any stickers or
rustling things on my lap and going forward, I apologize but wholeheartedly agree with
that one. And then we do have one review which I don't know.
Did you guys read this last week? No? This is from uh buddy
Ryan? Oh is it the one that's like a fucking novel? Yes?
Then yes we did read it. Tim read it last week and had had
lots of trouble. It means I don't have to read it. Yep,
thanks Ryan. Ryan did mention last week that he's going to start leaving them
every week that long. So he also just said in the chat room that
he should be able to come to Chicago. Sweet, that would be awesome.
We would love to see everybody in Chicago, even if you don't make
it to the actual challenge MANI event, we'll make sure to post up where
we're going and all that sort of thing. So on, did you did
you read this Instagram thing last week? Yes? Okay, Michelle, hy
oh you are? He's your y oh you apostrophe are? Is? You
are? Learn how to spell? I did not read that, but I
didn't even think about that I just was having fun reading it and we were
laughing. So all right, So onto the fantasy league, at least the
public and the online version of the host league. So public league. Whatever
Stove is still in first place with one ninety three points. What's eight times
nine has overtaken CT for the Win for second place. They are at one
thousand, two, one, one and twenty five and CT for the Win
is in third place with one thousand and ninety five points, and I have
jumped much higher in the rankings. I am back at fourth with one thousand
and forty six points, so there's a real chance that I met make top
three next week. I didn't put in scores for picks for two of the
weeks that we were there. Big Uncle Sweet Tee has jumped up to eighth,
and Zachie Bananas has fallen to ninth because he did not pick anybody last
week. Many eighteenth yep, wolfee? Is it eighteenth? Up? You
did? You jumped up last week too, so way to go there.
Uh, And it looks like i'man We are on par for whatever Stove to
be able to guest host an episode next season. So unless What's eight times
nine or CT for the win happened to or even I touched Johnny's banana.
Unless they all happen to get over one hundred points in the next episode,
like well over one hundred points almost two hundred for some of them, and
whatever Stove doesn't pick anybody at all, then it looks like he might be
winning. So in the host League online it doesn't. It's got all the
drama and things and has scored differently than Zach's. I am still in first
place with fifteen hundred and thirty nine. Zachi Benedez is in second with fourteen
forty or fourteen forty fourteen fourteen not fourteen forty. You can't talk this evening,
and Wolfe's in third with ten eighty nine. And Big Uncle Sweet Tea
has forgotten about because he lost all his players weeks ago. Yep. So
that's the current standings. We'll get the actual standings next week. When Zach
remembers to bring his notes, I'll post them on Facebook tonight or tomorrow.
Yeah, send them to me for the Instagram too, because you haven't done
that the last few weeks. We haven't put anything up. Where do you
go, Zach? Maybe you can redeem yourself Zach, do we get any
social media stuff? I did see some social media stuff, so I think
uh Para seen her, heard her by now. But there's speculation out there
that uh Kara and Polly broke up this past week. Yeah. She posted
Instagram photo uh saying I'm gonna, you know, drink till I puke,
and she unfollowed Polly on Instagram. Yeah, and apparently all of his family
members too. Yeah. And I just saw earlier today that her assio put
up an Instagram thanking the reas for her unconditional love and support, and Kyral
replied that must be nice. Hm Boom roasted well, and they were both
she and Paulie were both just on forty right, I believe. So I
think about something happened there, or if it's something happened to do with his
soccer thing, but what's gonna happen with their orgy retreats? Well, it
looks like she just moved to Florida. Yeah, M So I feel like
it must have been something posha because I feel like just a week or two
ago, I saw like her and Polly and Cody, Paully's brother, all
like at a soccer like charity event in like North Carolina or something like that.
She did just have a birthday and he was not there for that.
I have a feeling he was off doing something for soccer, because he was
not for that. She was celebrating alone. But he did post on their
you know, happy birthday all that sort of things. She liked that,
so I did see that. But yeah, interesting. Honestly, I hope
that she finds someone who treats her better than he does. She seems to
have an issue with finding guys to treat her like shit though. And also,
you know, I know we talked earlier about Nicole's fake crying and whether
that was well her cry, if that was real or not. We have
some other claims of fakeness, which is Laurel was on Bananas podcast this week
and she comp She claims she was never emotionally into Nicole this season. She
just was there for the booty and there's no there was never any emotional connection.
She has just had playing it up. Oh I has she watched this
season back, because it I mean, the way that she acts about all
of that, the way that she stands up around Kara about all of it,
like all of this, she that does not look like someone who is
not emotionally invested. I agree, But she claims that with editing and producers
walking into what they want you to say, and you know, cutting images
how they are video how they want, they can manipulate it, and that
she had no emotional films for Nicole. She just enjoyed hooking up. See
that's the thing that, like, she can say that all she wants.
They you know, they manipulated things that they asked her leading questions, this,
that and the other. But like the looks on her face, the
things that she was saying, her reaction to what she was doing, the
fact that she didn't go into an elimination because Nicole and Ryan told her not
to, and then she came back saying I'm so happy to stay here and
kiss you and all that sort of like the way that that woman acted like
they can cut it however they want, but she still did all of those
things. Yeah, they Again, Paul was not that good of an actor,
and neither is Laurel. Laurel has always worn her emotions on her sleeve,
like that's why she is such a fucking asshole. But yeah, I
called massive bullshit on that same and a lot of things not really news.
I just found an amusing is someone posted a video from the Gauntlet because Steve
went into two eliminations in the Gauntlet, and both times Adam voted him into
it. So Adams have this coming for over a decade. Yeah, Adam,
Adam was he. I didn't have any issues with him to begin this
season, and he just fucking lost me entirely last episode. I was excited
to see Adam back at the start of the season because I just met him
being so good on road rolls and like being very competitive, and I liked
him up until Yeah, until he turned on. Steve had no memory of
him whatsoever, which is probably why I didn't have any issues with him when
he first came back. Well, Ify, you said that you had some
social media stuff earlier. I saw someone posted another group somewhere. I sort
of read it and then moved on. But so apparently Nicole posted a picture
of her and her girlfriend some other blonde girl, to which Laurel replied to
it, hope you're not secretly cheating on her too? Yeah that right there,
Like Laurel, you're emotionally invested in this shit. If you're still commenting
on your ex girlfriend's shit, and then Nicole replied, we're doing great,
and no I'm not, thank you. She doesn't have a tendency to get
unhinged all capital letters or a thief all capital letters parentheses a person who steals
into their person's property, especially by stealth and without using force or violence.
Is she talking about when's Laurel stole her thing of peanut butter? I don't
know that'd be hilarious. It was because like, if that's what Nicole has
on Laurel, like, yeah, Laurel is completely unhinged. She can fly
off the fucking handle. We've all seen it. But it things like that
annoying when you are a public figure and you're feuding with another public that,
like, if you're talking about shit that none of us have any idea about,
you just look like a moron. Yeah yeah, And if she's complaining
about the peanut butter, then that's just fucking dumb that she's a moron.
Anyway. So after the parentheses, it continues, Van proceeds to play phone
tag. It's then Nicole then proceeds to play phone tag. And I was
never the type to kiss and tell, but you like comparing no with an
ex fiance and how old are you? By the way, this was all
one sentence ends with the period when it should be ending with a question mark.
Yeah, so they're they're doing great after this season. Yeah, neither
of them were emotionally invested at all. Oh, totally awesome. Man.
You know. Another random thing came up this week is, uh, there's
a video going around Twitter of a ninja Natalie was at a was at a
wedding and she and another girl coffee bok simultaneously, and now he just drops
the ground, stands like gator rolling, trying to like rip this bouquet out
of the girl's hands. That's insane. Women be crazy, yo, Yeah,
that's just fucking nuts. Why would you do that? Like that's it's
like that that I don't understand it. Weddings. It's the cake in the
face that I don't understand it. Weddings. I saw a video like two
or three weeks ago of they must have been in their twenties. This guy
at he is the groom and his bride is standing next to him, and
he pops open a bottle of champagne, shakes it up with his finger on
the with his thumb on the end of it, starts spranging it out over
the crowd and then turns it to his brand new wife and hoses her down,
Like you you're getting divorced tomorrow. Yeah, it would be fucking livid.
I'd be livid just in a general day. Like if I'm wearing anything
that is not meant to be getting wet, if you host me down with
champagne'm be pissed. But yeah, some dude hoses you down with champagne.
You're like, hey, nope, I don't want cake on my face.
I don't want to get hosed down with champagne. No, maybe if I'm
in a swimsuit, like if if it's something that's meant to get wet,
then he had sure, But I don't want to be hosed down with champagne.
I agree to the champagne thing. The cake thing. I'm a little
bit more leaning in tom No, because a woman at the I don't know
why we're on this now, but if you are at your wedding, most
women have spent literally hours getting ready for this. They have full face of
makeup, they've got their hair done, this dress, they've paid an insane
amount of money for. If you put cake in her face. That is
so incredibly rude, Like, she has spent so much time getting ready to
make this day nice for her and for you, and you've just ruined her
face with make with cake, Like you can't just wipe the cake off because
it wipes off all of the makeup and it doesn't look right for the rest
of the game. It's so incredibly insensitive. So would you be okay if
the if the wife goes to put the cake in his face first, it's
he allowed to retaliate at that point. I don't want cake in anybody's face.
Yeah, But if the girl goes for her first, would you fault
the guy for returning it? Yes, okay, he should. He still
shouldn't do it. She also shouldn't be doing it. And I only say
yes because she, like I just said, she has spent time, money,
and energy to make her face look the way it does, and it
just Yeah. Whatever, this is. This is after show content. No
one on here actually cares. Uh do we have anything else? Uh?
No? Okay? Signing off for challenge. This is Carlin, this has
been This is Challenge Brian bas And, as Laurel said, he's ripping ass. Chie