1 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:48,159 The Paranormal Project Radio Show. Carry your hosts Scott Allen and Christina Bowen. 2 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,719 Good evening, everyone, Welcome back to the Paranormal Project Radio Show. My 3 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:59,479 name is Scott Allen. Excuse me, I am here with the very lovely 4 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:02,479 Christina Bowen. How are you, my friend? Good to see you again, 5 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,480 and great night's good to see you too, Scott. That's good. 6 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:10,920 We have two very interesting guests tonight that we're going to chat with. They 7 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:17,599 bought a home many years ago to raise their family and kind of walked into 8 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:23,120 a nightmare. And you know, we've all heard the stories about Amityville, 9 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:27,319 the Amityville horror, the family that moved in and get chased out. I 10 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:32,079 don't know anything about this. We're going to find out tonight in real time, 11 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,159 but it sounds as bad as that, except that they weren't able to 12 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,640 leave, and so there's a lot that has gone on in this house, 13 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:48,040 and I'm anxious to bring them out and have a conversation. And you know, 14 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,439 I know there's some people here in the audience, and we'll probably get 15 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:53,719 a few more as we go on with the show. Feel free to type 16 00:01:53,719 --> 00:02:00,480 in the chat wherever you're watching from and ask questions and we'll see if we're 17 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:04,239 able to answer. So i'd like to welcome to the show, Jay and 18 00:02:04,359 --> 00:02:07,439 Elka from the Enfield Demon House. How are you? And thank you for 19 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,800 joining us. Oh we've got one more there too. Hello. Yes, 20 00:02:13,479 --> 00:02:16,919 so we're doing great. Thank you for having us on the show. There's 21 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,319 gonna be a real tree. We got some really good surprises to talk about. 22 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:23,759 It's a lot of history, a lot of twists and turns. It's 23 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:30,520 just one heck of a ride since we've been here and ask many questions. 24 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,000 I mean, we, like I said, we've been here almost eighteen years 25 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,400 and we try to get out four times and we could not escape from the 26 00:02:37,439 --> 00:02:39,199 house. Well, maybe we can go back to the beginning. I know 27 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:45,960 you told me yesterday your twins had not been born yet, and you had 28 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,199 bought the house. You found it was affordable, you got in, what 29 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,560 was what was? How soon after you got in did did things start to 30 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:58,919 happen? I would say that, well, the warning signs were already there, 31 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,439 But we, like I said, we believe in paranormal. Elca was 32 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:05,879 seven months pregnant and there were like little warning signs like the day we were 33 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,639 supposed to move I had like twenty people lined up to help us move in, 34 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,159 and it rained, so so it was so it was so god awful 35 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,960 hobby that everybody canceled. So the following week we were going to move in, 36 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,719 and my uncle died and I was I was renting a house off my 37 00:03:23,879 --> 00:03:27,520 father, and we already had planned, so I couldn't even go to the 38 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,520 funeral. So I'll even back up a little further. When we were looking 39 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,280 at the house, the gentleman gave us a keys to the house to take 40 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,960 a look at it. Like I was saying, you know, when we 41 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,919 looked at the house, the reason that we kind of got persuaded into it 42 00:03:44,039 --> 00:03:47,280 was because the owner had put all brand and new electrical in, all brand 43 00:03:47,319 --> 00:03:52,520 new boilers, brand new roof, brand new windows, and he said, 44 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:55,319 all the all the big ticket items are done. All you need to do 45 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:59,400 is sheet rock, plumbing. He goes, you can turn it into whatever 46 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:01,800 you want to. And so we came back and we looked again, but 47 00:04:01,919 --> 00:04:05,639 now on the third time, and so we're all, let elka happen, 48 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:11,360 because it happened to elka. We met here, we had two separate vehicles. 49 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,199 We met here, and we looked at the house and she said, 50 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,560 you know, can you really do this? She goes, you're working sixty 51 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,160 five hours a week. She goes, you know, you don't have a 52 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,560 nine to five job. She goes, you're always on call twenty first seven. 53 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:29,199 She goes, can you do it? Of course we're men. We're 54 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,680 like, okay, I'm superman. I can do it. And so we 55 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,759 came back the third time, and that's that's when things when we realized, 56 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,839 as looking back, we shouldn't have bought the house and go ahead, OKA, 57 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,800 tell look, this is the part. Well, one thing, we're 58 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,399 still building. It's kind of like the winter. We still have the hallway 59 00:04:48,439 --> 00:04:51,600 left, but other than that, everything is done. Yeah. Anyways, 60 00:04:51,639 --> 00:04:59,199 we were ready to leave, and I have to say, I don't really 61 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,360 have any feelings or anything, but I hated that house. I never wanted 62 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:11,879 that house. So I had a hard time to try to to accept that 63 00:05:11,959 --> 00:05:15,480 did we really buy the house? And so I was to one last one 64 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:21,360 who coming out and locking the door. He was already outside, and I 65 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:27,319 went on the porch down wanted to go out, And be honest, I 66 00:05:27,399 --> 00:05:31,800 can't really remember what happened, but all of a sudden, I feel like 67 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:38,600 kind of like someone pushed me, because I kind of like my arms went 68 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:45,000 out and uh and luckily I somehow I stumbled down. Yeah, she was 69 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,839 seven months pregnant when this happened, and I fell. I kind of like 70 00:05:48,959 --> 00:05:56,720 rolled down the sidewalk and want my arms set on my stomach. So this 71 00:05:56,959 --> 00:06:00,000 was kind of like the first thing when he said there's someone in the house. 72 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:02,319 Someone pushed you, and I'm kind of like I locked the house, 73 00:06:02,959 --> 00:06:09,560 so I don't know what could that be. So well we left it kind 74 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,000 of like, well, I was an incident. We didn't pay much attention 75 00:06:14,439 --> 00:06:17,680 to it if that could have been something, so we moved on on that 76 00:06:17,759 --> 00:06:20,639 one. N Yeah, so yeah, because what I heard as I'm walking 77 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:25,279 over my vehicle, I heard Jay help me, and I saw her arms 78 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,040 go flying like somebody shoved her. So as I'm running to the house, 79 00:06:29,079 --> 00:06:32,360 I got one eye scanning in the house because when you fall, your hands 80 00:06:32,399 --> 00:06:36,079 will always go out. You can get tripped under trace. It's a defense 81 00:06:36,199 --> 00:06:41,480 mechanism. But when I saw her arms go like this and I heard her 82 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:45,000 yelling for help, I saw her stumbling. Now as I'm running to her, 83 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,879 I'm trying to save her and the babies and I'm scanning the house that 84 00:06:47,959 --> 00:06:54,040 I'm like, somebody's in the house. Someone just showed my wife and I 85 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,879 When we left it, drove to the hospital and I'm like, what is 86 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,079 going on? And at that point I a house. I wanted to take 87 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:04,040 my vehicle drive drive it through the side of the house because it just I 88 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,959 never it was just really weird. When we got through that, we got 89 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:15,839 to the hospital, her and the babies were okay, kenzy. So what 90 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,680 happened next is we ended up moving in. We got everything settled in, 91 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:28,040 and it started out, well, we should go we should have sent the 92 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,639 warning signs because the day where we were signing all the papers at the lawyer's 93 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:38,800 office and the guy said, well, we need a twelve months ahead of 94 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,000 house insurance and I'm kind of like, yes, I'm out because I said, 95 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,560 I'm sorry. I put every single penny I had I don't have it. 96 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,759 And the former owner who sold us the house said, oh, no 97 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:57,040 problem, I'm gonna pay you. That's my my housewarming gift. And you 98 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,399 paid a year of twelve hundred bucks right out of his pocket. So on 99 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:05,839 the way out he heard him saying to his lawyer, thank god I get 100 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,720 rid of this house. So he didn't hold me that at the beginning. 101 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Then he heard that we got the house, so yeah, sod it didn't. 102 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:20,879 It didn't take long. This is uh we got in. It was 103 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,040 we signed the deal in September of six. Matter of fact, it was 104 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,759 September twenty eighth of two thousand and six. And we by the time we 105 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:33,480 moved in, because we didn't just come in right away. I brought in 106 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:37,480 the team of all guys and the trade fields that come in and we worked 107 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,519 then. And even my brother came in to help me. Oh can't you 108 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,399 get over here if you weren't born yet, So I don't know why you 109 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:48,320 want to come in right now, So come on in, So come on 110 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:54,080 in. So anyhow, and we raced around o'clock. And as now as 111 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,720 we were getting ready, my brother, like I said, he passed on. 112 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,639 He was an ex It was six to two. He was a big 113 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,279 guy. So we were both former military. But we both had experience, 114 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:07,679 you know, things that we don't talk about. But all of a sudden, 115 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,919 as I'm standing down the floors, I said, Cliff, and he 116 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,320 said, don't say it. I said, it looked like somebody bled out. 117 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:16,879 I said, someone died here. I said, you can see it, 118 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:20,519 and he's like, don't say it. So we're trying to sand out 119 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:26,399 the bloodstain and more we sanded it was it was. It was embedded into 120 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,759 the floor, so he had a triple coating polyra thing over everything. Didn't 121 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:37,399 want to tell her about that. It was pretty scary. So these were 122 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,200 like little things. But we weren't looking for a ghosts. We weren't think 123 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,919 that. We were just trying to get up, get in the house was 124 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:46,320 other babies. So my brother we worked, like I said, around the 125 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:52,679 clock, got it livable and moved in, and then then the weird things 126 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,559 started. Like I said, it was testing us, and we had no 127 00:09:54,639 --> 00:09:58,799 idea what we're going to be in for. All of a sudden, we 128 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,840 went now on Black Friday shoe I was Black Friday shopping and we bought a 129 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:09,440 first digital camera. And so I came home from work and I was getting 130 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,039 ready. She wasn't taking me out for my birthday, and we already had 131 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:16,559 the Christmas tree up. It was already December, and I'm looking at the 132 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,559 tree. I'm just taking pictures like this. I'm going like this, and 133 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,399 then I noticed all of a sudden, this big white light was on the 134 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,320 Christmas tree. So I'm like, oh, that's some type of a reflection 135 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:30,279 from the ball. So I took a second one. But now the ball 136 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,480 moves over to the wooden blinds, so now I'm playing with it, and 137 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:39,440 I as I brought it closer to see the image, then I realized this 138 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,440 is not funny. There was a man's face, his hair was parted in 139 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,440 the middle, and he's staring right at me, and the or but whatever 140 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,799 you want to call it was right next to his cheek. And I reached 141 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:54,279 up and I was wearing a baseball hat. I said, well, that's 142 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,879 not me. I was thought it might have been some kind of like reflection, 143 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,480 and I told her about it. Let's not go there, not go 144 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,600 there. So we went out, and a couple of months went by, 145 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:11,799 Christmas came, we went out, the babies came, and we were heading 146 00:11:11,879 --> 00:11:15,919 in for what's supposed to be a beautiful year. Here comes twenty two thousand 147 00:11:15,919 --> 00:11:24,919 and seven, and then then we went out. The babies were born premature, 148 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:30,080 and what happened was Elka got sick, really really bad, and we 149 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:35,080 rushed her to the hospital in Northampton, and so I was between running to 150 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:41,879 Northampton to visit her, running to Bay State Medical and Springfield, mass and 151 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,159 work in sixty five hours a week, and then trying to take care of 152 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,559 the house. So what happened next is I went to go pick her up 153 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:56,159 and I said, we got to talk. We have to have a serious 154 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,080 talk. Because she had no idea what I am about to talk about. 155 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:03,200 And I took our to dinner and I said, hey, I think you're 156 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,919 gonna tak I'm nuts. And she had no idea. She didn't know if 157 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,799 I was gonna say I'm divorcing you, I'm leaving you, because I was 158 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,360 really serious, and she said, I said, I don't know how to 159 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,399 say it, but I said, I think there's something in the house. 160 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,639 And she's like you you know, it's like a relief came out, which 161 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,600 goes you too. Because when I when I went back to work and she 162 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:26,159 was a home home alone in the house, I didn't realize it was messing 163 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:31,840 with her so bad. It was playing games with her. Go ahead, 164 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,279 I could talk about how you would feel like someone's coming behind you. The 165 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:39,919 things the babies weren't here at the time, but the things that were happening. 166 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:45,039 Yeah, kind of. It started like the noises the dogs went off 167 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,440 and there was no reason for it, or staring in the corner. Then 168 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:54,879 it started kind of like get it rammed up. It started like little things 169 00:12:54,919 --> 00:13:00,000 and then it went to I got from my baby shower a lot of clothes, 170 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:05,799 so I was washing, washing, and and a couple of times did 171 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:11,200 I put everything in the dryer and coming down and the dryade was open and 172 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:16,440 the stuff was outside after tryer, And I'm kind of like, I said, 173 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,159 what, Yeah, so this kind of don't usually have like a locking 174 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,759 mechanism. You have to really yank on him. They do. It did 175 00:13:22,799 --> 00:13:26,039 have a locking mechanism, so and I'm kind of like, n that's something. 176 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:31,840 And I still didn't believe. So I'm kind of like I started joking 177 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:35,960 around, saying, you know what, the next time, can you please 178 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,240 folded at least and put it in the basket doing that. So, but 179 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:45,080 I didn't kind of like went to him with it because everything when I said 180 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,879 that the dogs go off or something weird happens in the house, he looked 181 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:54,360 at me kind of like, I I, well, I didn't look at 182 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:56,840 you like that. It was I was trying to figure out what was going 183 00:13:56,879 --> 00:14:01,080 on, because what would happen would be I I I would go to work, 184 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,360 I would get a frantic phone call Jay, get home now. And 185 00:14:05,399 --> 00:14:11,120 at the beginning, when she was on bed rest, she called me and 186 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:13,440 said, there was a giant dog in the house. You got to get 187 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,360 home. So I thought, oh my god. So I came flying home 188 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,720 and she said it seems huge. She goes, it's about a three hundred 189 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:24,960 pound dog. So now as I'm listening the way she's describing this animal, 190 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,600 I'm thinking, Okay, maybe she because being pregnant hormones. I don't know 191 00:14:30,679 --> 00:14:35,159 what's going on. I look for a dog. But at the same time, 192 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,360 I'm thinking, you know what, it's an old house. I'm thinking, 193 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,919 well, maybe there's tunnels, maybe somebody's squatting, maybe there's something wrong. 194 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:46,080 I cleared the house, I checked everything out. There's there was nothing, 195 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,559 and I would keep getting phone calls Jay get home now. Now what 196 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,600 she was talking about was she went downstairs to get some baby formula. Should 197 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:56,120 put the clothes in a drawer and it locked. It was one of those 198 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,120 big ones from the lows, and she said when she put it in, 199 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:05,960 she had this weird feeling, and she says she's not sensitive. She's very 200 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,879 sensitive to this stuff. She's very modest. She turned around and where the 201 00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:16,559 boilers are was this giant black shadow man and she took up up ran up 202 00:15:16,559 --> 00:15:18,240 the stairs, and that's how I got the second phone called get home. 203 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Someone's in the house. So I came home again. I cleared the house, 204 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,159 not one living soul in their So now I'm scratching my head. So 205 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,799 I decided at this point, I called up the local church and I said, 206 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:35,519 father, can you come over and do a house blessing? And he's 207 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:39,159 like, sure, can, I'll be going this date. So I didn't 208 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,879 realize he was walking over. So he was walking on the street. So 209 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:43,799 I met him and I told him, I says, father. I said, 210 00:15:43,799 --> 00:15:46,919 oh, I think there might be something in the house. And he 211 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,799 said, like a bird, chipmunk, squirrel. What are we talking about? 212 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,159 I said, well, my wife. You know, I blame it 213 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,600 on her all the time. My wife thinks somethings a house. She was 214 00:15:56,639 --> 00:15:58,720 like. He stops and he's like, well, like what I said, 215 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,080 you know, like ghost, And he looked at me. He says, 216 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,279 there is no such thing as ghosts or demons. He goes to mister. 217 00:16:04,519 --> 00:16:07,000 But he goes and I will prove it to you. So we get to 218 00:16:07,039 --> 00:16:11,039 the house. He meets Elka. He throws holy water. He goes throw 219 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:12,960 a hole in the whole side, and he said, see, hey, 220 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,639 there's nothing here. I said, father, we got to go next door 221 00:16:15,639 --> 00:16:18,360 on this side. So I had table. Saw his head set up. 222 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:22,159 I got wires hanging down. I'm doing wiring and plumbing. And he says, 223 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,879 I'll go to the house. So he goes to the house. He 224 00:16:23,919 --> 00:16:27,320 goes upstairs, and at the time the attic was opened, I had sealed 225 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,240 off the attic now because I had to make I made two rooms up there 226 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,200 for the kids. But he goes up the now on the attic door, 227 00:16:34,279 --> 00:16:37,200 there was like all kinds of dead bolts, locks, everything, and I 228 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,919 could never figure out what are they trying to keep in or out of the 229 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,279 attic. So he goes up. He opens them all up. He goes 230 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,840 up all confident. He takes three steps up and he freezes and he's staring 231 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:52,919 at something, and I'm looking at him and I felt like call him him, 232 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,519 like who had father? Are your chicken? You know? Go ahead? 233 00:16:55,759 --> 00:16:59,840 And he's looking He takes one step back and he takes he goes one 234 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,120 more step up, and he said, you know what, I'm gonna bust 235 00:17:02,159 --> 00:17:06,279 the staircase and he throws holy water over it. He backs down. He 236 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:10,279 never turns his face off the staircase. He backs down, gets out, 237 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,720 slams the door, bolts it, runs down the stairs, runs out, 238 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,519 gets to the door, looked at me, totally frantic. He said, 239 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,759 ignore, it will go away, and he takes off. So Alca's like, 240 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,519 where did the priest go? She goes, I have I'm making things 241 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:33,200 for him. So that began our nightmare, a nightmare almost into hell. 242 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,799 It was. Things got ramped up and I went down to the town hall, 243 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,079 and this is how I got all my information. I met this really 244 00:17:41,079 --> 00:17:45,880 beautiful woman on her her name was Colleen, and she worked at the department. 245 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,279 And I went in there and I was going to handle it like an 246 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:52,880 investigation. I said, I want a list of everybody who owned my house 247 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,440 all the way back. And I said, I want to know who was 248 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,440 in my house, and so she said, so she starts going through papers 249 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,920 and laughing at joke and me and pulling out things. And now I noticed 250 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,039 that they're getting older. You know the books are getting older. She says, 251 00:18:06,079 --> 00:18:07,720 you know it's a dollar a copy. You say, I know, 252 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,240 she was gonna get quite expensive. I said, that's okay. I said, 253 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,920 just keep going. So she stops and she says, she sits back, 254 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,559 and she reaches into her neck. She pulls out a very old keptic 255 00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:22,839 cross and she kisses it, and she says, is there something you're not 256 00:18:22,039 --> 00:18:26,200 telling me about your house? And I'm like, dude, dude, right, 257 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:27,640 I'm like, I'm like, well, you know, I think we 258 00:18:27,759 --> 00:18:30,359 might have possibly a ghost. She goes, you think. She goes, 259 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,519 we haven't got out of the twentieth century yet. She goes, a lot 260 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:37,079 of people have owned your house. And she says, you know what I'm 261 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,400 gonna do. She goes, I'm gonna write down on a piece of paper 262 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,480 which I have. I'll show you, Scout when you come out. I 263 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,440 have all this stuff where she writes on everybody's name, and she says, 264 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,599 I'll let you know. She goes that thing that's going on. So weeks 265 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,359 weeks we go by, and again i'd get a phone call at the office. 266 00:18:53,839 --> 00:18:56,039 You know, hi, he says, Colleen. I go over. 267 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,119 I closed my door and said, hi, you Colleen, what's going on? 268 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,480 She goes, You're not gonna believe this. She goes, you know 269 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,960 so and so, I don't want to give too much. Invarians of Scots 270 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,200 Coma, she goes, I don't want to mention naything, but there was 271 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,319 a mass murder at your house. I'm like what. I'm like, what 272 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:15,640 are you talking about? She goes somebody. I won't mention names. I 273 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:22,000 want Scott to She goes someone in the nineteen twenties. She goes, left 274 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:23,759 your house, went down the street and committed a bunch of murders and came 275 00:19:23,799 --> 00:19:30,119 back and killed himself. So she had access also to the death record, 276 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,839 so she got hooked on. It's like a soul propers. As she was 277 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,160 finding things out, she was pulling people's deaths or ticketfits. So that's how 278 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,519 we know a lot of stuff. So I'm looking. So we're like, 279 00:19:41,599 --> 00:19:44,440 what is going on? So we go by. She goes, well, 280 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:48,559 you know those people I told you not to worry about that. They lived 281 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:52,359 there from from the nineteen sixties to two thousand, and you told me Jay 282 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,119 that they probably had a long, happy life. She goes, they didn't. 283 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,319 She goes, you got to get out of the house. She goes, 284 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,160 there's something really bad about that house. I said. She goes, 285 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,559 I'm going to keep looking, and she got all the way back down to 286 00:20:06,599 --> 00:20:10,400 eighteen forty six and then she says, I can't find anything else. She 287 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,680 goes, maybe the house was built by somebody in the family. So as 288 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,279 we were looking, we realized a couple of things started popping up. Numbers 289 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:23,000 that stood up was a lot of twenty two's, a lot of elevens now 290 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:30,759 those dates cour signed horrific events in the house. So as that's happening, 291 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:37,680 I decide that year we had the babies are home, spring was coming somewhere 292 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:41,960 was here, and there's so much information I loved, get every over and 293 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,119 whatever. I can't. But one of the main things that happened was we 294 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,440 were outside and if you look at the front of house, we were making 295 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,960 a dry river bed to make it give some some like some some like character 296 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:56,400 to the house. So all of a sudden, we're out there. We've 297 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,640 got the doors open, we got the we got Mackenzie and Courtney. There 298 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,200 were babies. We have baby miners on him. We're up there, we're 299 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:07,240 laughing and joking and we're placing rocks, and all of a sudden, I 300 00:21:07,319 --> 00:21:11,319 hear this man's voice, Hey did you buy this house? So I look 301 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,720 up and there's a man about eighty five eighty seven years old. He's got 302 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,799 a cane, and I'm like, yeah, I thought he was gonna welcome 303 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:19,559 as to the neighborhood. I'm like, yeah, you know, I thought 304 00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:22,480 he was say yeah, my name is so, and so I lived next 305 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:26,039 door. He says, you should never bought this house. He goes, 306 00:21:26,079 --> 00:21:29,799 this house is evil. He goes, you gotta get out, and I'm 307 00:21:29,839 --> 00:21:33,799 like, what a way to welcome in the neighborhood. So I was baby, 308 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,079 yeah, yeah, and a lot of stuff we can kind of back 309 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,680 up with some evidence, but a lot of stuff were just like fantasy Island. 310 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:44,279 So we start talking. He said, when I was a little boy, 311 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,720 he said, I would walk by the house, and even the language 312 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,920 he was using was out of text. He goes, when I was walking 313 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,559 by the house, he goes, I want to have a playmate, And 314 00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:56,880 he says, there was a little boy in that window up there, and 315 00:21:56,279 --> 00:22:00,720 I would wave to him. He would wave back. After a while, 316 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,640 he said, he stopped and as he waved the boy way back and he 317 00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:07,680 said, he goes, I beckoned the boy. He didn't say, I 318 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,960 called the boy, and I beckoned the boy to come down, and when 319 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,319 I did, his face turned into a hideous creature. He said, I 320 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,240 dropped my school books and I ran home, and he goesaid I got in 321 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:22,839 the house. He goes my father, He goes, they were all we 322 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,880 lived in an old Italian neighbor would wait down the street and I'm not mcn't 323 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,799 say sorry, buddy. So he says, as I walked in the house, 324 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,119 my father's like, oh, you want to play hooky? You know, 325 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:37,000 you don't want to go to school. And that's what he thought, 326 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:40,319 because that's how strict the parents were. And he's yelling monsters, monsters, 327 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,519 and his grandfather's like, what are you talking. He goes at the end 328 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:45,319 of Prospect Street and his grandfather said, wait a minute. He goes, 329 00:22:45,319 --> 00:22:49,720 when I was a little boy, he said there there was a story that 330 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:55,480 goes back farther. He said that a little boy came running out of the 331 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,680 house screaming, and he was this is a sad part. He was hit 332 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,400 by a horse and buggy. His father came out, picked the boy up, 333 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,960 brought him in the house and the boy died. So I called the 334 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,079 city hall all right, and I said, hey, I need you guys 335 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:19,519 need your I we kind of like still worked when the man told the old 336 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:25,200 man told us this, and all of a sudden get quiet. So we 337 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:29,799 both looked up and the man was gone. He was gone. He was 338 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:33,960 both sides on the street, and I'm kind of like, where where did 339 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,079 he go? I mean, he had a cane. I said, he 340 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,160 can't go that fast. So we thought, first maybe he looks really close 341 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,160 by and he just took off, and but it didn't. Said well, 342 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,279 so I asked all the people in the neighborhood, there's an older man here 343 00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:52,599 with the cane. Does anyone know the name of this of this gentleman? 344 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,559 And everyone said nobody. Let's see it like nobody knew who he was. 345 00:23:56,759 --> 00:24:02,759 He just vanished out of the air. Gone. So going back to you, 346 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:06,680 you're calling Colleen to find out I had asked. I had asked the 347 00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:10,880 gentleman. I said, you know, do you know the boy's name? 348 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:14,319 You anything? I'm trying to get some information out of him. And he 349 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,880 said, well, Petersons something Parsons. It began with air p and I 350 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,920 said okay, and like and that's what I was saying. All of a 351 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:23,920 sudden, it was like, I don't want to say a time lapse. 352 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,000 All of a sudden we looked up. He's gone. So we're looking. 353 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,160 I said, someone this age and and and his health with a cane isn't 354 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,279 going to run. He's not gonna sprint. So I'll go, like I 355 00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:38,119 said, went around. She got to know all the neighbors, and everybody 356 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,440 said, that man that you're describing, we never see them. Man, 357 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,160 nobody walks the street because everybody in the neighborhood they watch out for everybody over 358 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,599 the years. So I went to Colleen. I said, I need a 359 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:56,279 name. I said, Peter's Parsons, anything partially anything Again. I get 360 00:24:56,319 --> 00:24:59,759 a phone call from I'm at work. I closed my office door and she 361 00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:03,240 said, is there is a guy. His name is Sean, a Scottish 362 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,640 guy by the name of Shamboul Parsons. He owned your house in the in 363 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,079 the in the early eight fifties. And she goes, here's the weird thing. 364 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,119 She goes, I see of a little boy, but every time I 365 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,160 go back to send it to you, she goes, I can't find him 366 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,119 no more. She goes, I can't find this little boy at all, 367 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,279 because I know I've seen him. So she said, I'm going to make 368 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,680 get everything goes out. So when she sends me the whole list, I 369 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,680 see the house bought, soul bought, so eighteen forty six bought, so 370 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,839 bought. So now here's the weird part, Like it's not already weirder. 371 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,559 The first guy, Kenzie, I don't know if you can reach in that 372 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,160 box and get me that paper. The house gets sold by a guy by 373 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,839 the name of Henry Graham Thompson in eighteen forty six. Now the Thompson, 374 00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:51,200 it's like Smith everything else like that. Now the name of this part of 375 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,880 the town is called Thompsonville, Connecticut. So we just figured okay, And 376 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,279 as we started looking at him this year, we found out he was the 377 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:06,079 son of the founder of Townsonville, Connecticut, who started other carpet mills. 378 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,119 He sells the house to a gentleman by name of Horrace Abbey in eighteen forty 379 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,480 six. And this all everything has to do with twenty twenty two. So 380 00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:21,400 comen shifted. This is the paper of the people that owned the house and 381 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,160 only goes back to forty six to where we bought the house. So in 382 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,799 eighteen forty six, Henry Graham's Townsend sells it to Horace Abbey and he sells 383 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:37,880 it news it is on May eighteen forty six the house gets sold to that 384 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,079 guide I was talking about shamboo Parsons on the twenty second a May. Now 385 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,720 what happens to Horace Abbey? He dies in the house and guess what day 386 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:55,839 he dies? February twenty second, eighteen forty nine. He doesn't even have 387 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,000 the house more than a couple of years. Now, Sham who parson comes 388 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:04,720 in. He buys the house right thinking it's him and his son. His 389 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:10,640 son dies, so then he turns around on he buys it and May he 390 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,279 gets rid of the house, sells it to a guy. But then William 391 00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:17,359 Tate, he sells the house, gets to what day he sells it on 392 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:22,119 the twenty second of September. He has it from May twenty second to September 393 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,240 twenty second. Now William Tate, guess what happens to him? He thinks 394 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,960 he's gonna have a nice house because at the time this area was very a 395 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:36,240 wealthy area. Poor guy, he only has it for four years. The 396 00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:41,720 house gets he dies, the house gets sold to a William Lydell, and 397 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,599 that's a whole new story. So you can see eighteen forty six, eighteen 398 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:52,359 fifty one, eighteen fifty one, eighteen fifty six, and then a guy 399 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,160 buys it and then we find out more about him. So as we're digging 400 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:03,039 into this, we just at first there's names of people that own the house. 401 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:07,920 Colleen, she's a superwoman. She goes and she starts digging on these 402 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,480 people. And without her, we wouldn't have ever known this. So she 403 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:18,559 starts looking at how they died. The little boy was he was pretty much 404 00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:22,440 almost wiped out because of horse and buggy, she said. And she tried 405 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,440 to give me the paper, but she can't find it nowhere. But then 406 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,039 the first guy he dies in the house from sable hemorrhaging. Then the other 407 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,559 guy dies, Yes, you'll see a lot of heart attacks. Boom he 408 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,599 dies. So now as this is happening, were having our own experiences. 409 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Now now we're, like I said, we're in two thousand and seven, 410 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:51,440 and now we realize we got some kind of problem. So we call up, 411 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,519 we look in the yellow Pages, we start looking online. It's not 412 00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:59,039 like there's a lot of paranormal communities out there, So I had reached out 413 00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:02,640 to a couple of well known groups that are still out there, and a 414 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,160 couple of guys. One of them they lived in Suffield. They were two 415 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,400 college police officers and they were they had a team. So we talked to 416 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,880 him. He goes, okay, you know, he comes over. At 417 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,759 the time, my sister was alive, and so they split up with the 418 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:22,799 women and the guys and they went over in the living room and all of 419 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,400 a sudden, you hear the woman going, hey, you know, I 420 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,759 can't remember their names, like Jeff, get over here, and he's like, 421 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:32,359 no, get over here. They watched there was a big banana plant 422 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,720 pot like this that was maybe about four feet tall. They literally, as 423 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,359 they were talking to my sister and Alka, they watched the thing slide across 424 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,000 the floor right in front of them, and they're like, did you see 425 00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:48,240 that? While we were in the dining room, Elka had this party like 426 00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:51,440 birdcage. It was a candle. When you walked, it kind of moved 427 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,160 with vibration, but it looked like somebody took their hands and was going like 428 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,920 this, and they're like, did you see that? So they're like, 429 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,119 we have more than enough information. We'll be in contact. Boom. They 430 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,519 never wanted to come back. We got another team come in here. They 431 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:11,359 come in same thing. They walk up, they see this shadow person right 432 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:15,640 in front of them and they feel this awful breeze. They're like, they 433 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,720 took pictures. They're like, they called me up. They sent me the 434 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:22,799 picture. They said, what is that black thing hanging up in your up 435 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:25,279 on the thing? I said, I don't know, maybe a sailing fan. 436 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,119 He said, We're we're really busy guys. I'm sorry, but can't 437 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,200 come back. So Coleen had called me up and she said, I know 438 00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:38,240 this this at the time. He was a young guy. Hopefully he's listening 439 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:41,319 right because we're all young back then. So he she said, he just 440 00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:47,599 start of a paranormal group and have him come over now. At the time, 441 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,519 this gentleman's name is Matt, and Matt had no idea what he was 442 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,640 going to get himself into. His first investigation came over. He's like, 443 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,200 it was no longer because I'm not really sure. But when he came back, 444 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,079 I was working upstairs and he comes over for a couple of coffee and 445 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:07,759 as we're talking. You're here bam smashed and I'm like, uh no, 446 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,920 He's like what I said, I'm I'm redoing the baby's room just because of 447 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,400 it. They were still in our room. They were still still over on 448 00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:17,599 babies, and I said, he goes, what was that noise? I 449 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,799 said, I hope my fan didn't get thrown out the window because I said 450 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,000 up, I'm a sheet rocking up there. I'm trying to blow all the 451 00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:29,119 dust out. So we run upstairs and nothing, there's nothing. So now 452 00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:34,720 my bedroom door is shut and I'm like. Matt's like, did you shut 453 00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:38,400 the baby's door? And I said no, So we try to open up. 454 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,839 Now there's no lock on the door. So Matt is trying to turn 455 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:48,240 it and he's like, Jay, somebody is holding the door back and the 456 00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:51,519 children in the room. The kids are in the room, and at this 457 00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:52,759 point, I'm like, these are my kids. I said, stand back, 458 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,799 Matt. I'm going to run and I'm gonna go right to the door. 459 00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:57,799 I'm going to breach the door, like oh, I used to be 460 00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:01,000 talk. So I'm ready to go breach the door. I'm gonna throw my 461 00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:06,079 shoulder into it. It's a Luan door. You heard this like ping. 462 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:12,440 It was like a high pitched bell sound like somebody took off like almost like 463 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,880 a fine crystal and hit it. When it happened, the door blew open. 464 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:21,279 Mac goes flying across her room on the ground. He gets so, 465 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,160 he looked around. He goes, you know what, I don't have experience 466 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,920 in this level. But he goes, this is no ghost. He goes, 467 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,359 this is something far worse. He goes, we checked the babies. 468 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:37,079 My daughter Courtney woke right up. I tried to get McKenzie up. It 469 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,680 was like she was in some kind of like I don't know, she was 470 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,680 in a deep sleep. We finally got her up everything. Then we started 471 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,839 noticing and I had taken a picture, and I would be telling Elka. 472 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,000 Because Elka worked in the medical field. I would call her up and say, 473 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,119 hey, the baby's getting scratched, and she goes, I don't get 474 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:57,920 it. She would come home the scratches would be gone. So now I 475 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,680 got my little handy dandy did the camera. I just bought right, So 476 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:06,880 now I take a picture boom right, because there's three like little scratches down 477 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,319 Courtney's leg. So when Elka comes home that night, she says Courtney's fine 478 00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:14,119 it. So I get the I get him, you know, processed on 479 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,119 the computer. I said, look at it. She goes, oh my 480 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:22,519 god. So this started ramping up. So now we're seeing. Now we're 481 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:25,640 here. Now we're seeing things lever Tate. We're hearing scratches banging on the 482 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,680 walls, and Matt's coming over, and all of a sudden, this one 483 00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:37,400 day I'm working at the kids got him up. Nep Alca comes home from 484 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,079 shopping. Matt comes over because he has a whole bunch of evidence he caught, 485 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,079 he had video, he had everything, he had caught. He goes, 486 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,240 your house is really messed up. So he goes over to show us, 487 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:53,799 and then upstairs he's here a smash pow so alka. I said, 488 00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:57,559 ala, I've just been up there. She goes, she runs up there. 489 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,279 I said, Matt, go go with her. And I hear them 490 00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:04,640 boat yell, Jay get up here now. So I go up there and 491 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,200 I'm like, what the heck does happened? Here? They had a little 492 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,400 Winnie the Pooh lamp and a small little kinder Opera light bulb. There's a 493 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,920 glass all the way down the hallway. There's a glass everywhere and I'm looking. 494 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:21,679 I start freaking out. I see bloody handprints climbing up the baby's crib, 495 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,800 and I'm like, oh my god, check Corney out. Elka grabs 496 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,760 Courtney. She looks at her, She does a finger sweep in her mouth. 497 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,360 There's no glass, no cuss on her hand. I said, it's 498 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,960 gotta be Mackenzie, Mackenzie nothing. So now it's like, oh my god, 499 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:45,639 where did the blood come from? Under the mattress? Everywhere? It 500 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:51,639 was such a small light bulb. And so how long ago was this jay 501 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,039 about? How how many years ago did that happen? In two thousand and 502 00:34:54,559 --> 00:35:00,880 seven around the follow early on. Yeah, So as this is happening, 503 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,320 guys, I'm gotta watch the time because I can talk this one thing like 504 00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:08,239 I'm like a somebody said, because I was told like a Native American, 505 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,480 I mean, and I always believe in like a living history. I keep 506 00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:15,199 everything and I can tell you details. So Matt's like, this is something. 507 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:19,039 He goes, I've never encountered this. So he's like, I gotta 508 00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:22,000 find out what's going on. So as things are going on, Matt's getting 509 00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:27,039 involved. So now Matt's getting called out one time, Matt's like, I'm 510 00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,159 not afraid of this thing. He goes, We're going to find out what's 511 00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:32,079 in this house. Once in fall, we gave Matt the keys. Matt 512 00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:36,239 was coming back. It's stumped him. He's like, I don't have this 513 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,840 type of experience. He goes, if this is a demon or something. 514 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,639 He goes, but we're going to find out. Because it called his name, 515 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,840 well we thought it called his name, but we're not sure because it 516 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,519 yelled. At one time they had he had a camera up in the attic 517 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:53,199 that was open at time, and Matt said, did you get insulted in 518 00:35:53,280 --> 00:36:00,159 any way when Jay invoked the name Jesus Christ? And at first he was 519 00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:01,280 here with a medium, and first he didn't hear it, and then all 520 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,400 of a sudden he hear it is loud, yes. And then the attic, 521 00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,320 the small little cubby hole door. He caught it on camera. It 522 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:15,599 blows open, something comes out, you can hear something walk around. Then 523 00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:20,519 it goes back and closes the door. So now as this is happening, 524 00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:23,840 we don't know what's going on. Matt has a medium over the two thirty 525 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,639 in the morning. We hear Jay, elka open it or please wake up, 526 00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,360 open it or please open the door. Hurry up, hurry up. 527 00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:36,320 They're frantic, and I'm like, what's going on. The Medium's like your 528 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,039 house is completely something's awful. Matt's like it called my name and it came 529 00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:46,239 after us. So as we're talking now upstairs is vacant, and you hear 530 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:54,920 with heavy wooden boots, something came down the attic stairs, walked into the 531 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,719 big room, walked around and we're all listening. We're like, we're thought, 532 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,800 this is that We're all gonna die. He walked around and then it 533 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,400 came down the stairs, boom boom, boom boom, and it got to 534 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,599 the door Matt. Matt's face was drained. Mike was just sitting there. 535 00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:15,199 I'm like looking, I'm just ready for like a firefighter. I'm waiting for 536 00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:19,760 something to come running through our house. And Alic was like, what in 537 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,599 the heck is that? And then all of a sudden you hear something walking 538 00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:25,400 around and then you hear it go start going back up the stairs, like 539 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:32,719 whatever came down was looking for Matt and looking for his medium, and who 540 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,519 knows what would have happened if they didn't get over a house. What this 541 00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:39,199 thing could have done to them. So now we opened the door like a 542 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,320 almost like a Nancy Drew mystery thing. We opened the door and we're listening 543 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,519 to this thing go up the stairs. And then Matt's like, you know 544 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,280 what, don't go in. We don't know what's in there. So finally, 545 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,559 you know, we're all huddled like Scooby doo. We opened the door 546 00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:58,400 and you hear this thing go back up the stairs. Nothing was in the 547 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,320 house. So now MAT's like, you know, he's still he's still trying 548 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,360 to find it. Then he tells us we found out through one of the 549 00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:10,480 at the time, like he was like, he wasn't on demonologies, but 550 00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:15,760 he worked with severe cases and he contacted the sea if the stories are true, 551 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,920 and Matt said, don't get involved in his house. He says, 552 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,599 it will change your life. And his name was Bob Baker, and he 553 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,920 told Bob he said he had one of his investigators over and she was wearing 554 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,920 a cross and she was brand new in the field and when she left, 555 00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:35,039 she was robbing her chest and kept robbing and Matt's like, what's what's going 556 00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:38,000 on? He goes, my chest is burning me, Matt, And Matt's 557 00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:43,039 like, said, check out your check it out. Make sure she the 558 00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:46,800 cross that she had lily burnt into her chest and made a sign of the 559 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,360 cross for our thing. So Matt is like, I'm not going to give 560 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,440 up on you guys. He goes, but this is something he goes, 561 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,920 I've never encountered. So at the time, we went through some more investigators, 562 00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:01,360 a lot of investigators, a lot of is So then we had a 563 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:07,079 call in from CPRS called it was called Connecticut Paranormal Research Society, and the 564 00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:10,800 two guys that were there, they were awesome guys. It was Orlando Fronte 565 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:19,039 and Joe Franks, And so Joe sent Orlando up with the team and Orlando's 566 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,079 he's witnessing lebtation. He's winning all this now, this is in two thousand 567 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:25,079 and eight. He gets Joe. He goes, Joe, you got to 568 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,800 come out. He goes, I don't know what to do now. I 569 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,719 didn't realize that Joe was best friends with Lorrain and Ed Warner, that he 570 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:37,360 worked with them in the late eighties and nineties, and Joe's an awesome guy. 571 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,119 They were all awesome guys. So of course the day that Joe shows 572 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,880 up, nothing happens. Orlando's like, I'm telling you, Joe, this 573 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:50,039 is not a Joe. So the whole night not one peep, and we're 574 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:52,760 all waiting. We're like, come on, show Joe, you know, 575 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,599 show him what you can do. So Joe says, I'll be back. 576 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,920 But now this time Joe was really good. He doesn't announce what he's gonna 577 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,679 do. Who. Orlando says, Joe's coming up. Make sure you guys 578 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,719 at home. Hear's all of that. Make sure he guys at home. 579 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,920 So they show up and there are a whole army of people. There's an 580 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:13,039 ordained minister, a camera woman, a sound guy like I said, or 581 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,320 everybody, Orlando and him. Now Orlando gets on his headphones and he's got 582 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,199 this one. He's listening for sounds. He has a medium and the medium 583 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:29,079 starts to channel right away, a Scottish woman, another person, and Joe's 584 00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:31,000 trying to figure out what's going on. So now Joe finally gets He gets 585 00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:35,679 upset because Orlando says, Joe, they're saying, there's many of us here. 586 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,360 They're this and they're saying weird thing. So Joe says to me, 587 00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:43,920 he to the guy who's channeling who what's your name? It won't tell him 588 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,800 his name. So Joe said, you know what, do something. He 589 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,239 goes, you're not impressing me last time I was there. He goes, 590 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,880 you won't do one thing. He goes, are you afraid of me? 591 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,559 He goes, I'm a big guy. He goes, my five year old 592 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:55,599 son can blow out a candle. You could make a pensil. Move because, 593 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,400 do something. At this time, the medium grabs his arm and starts 594 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,599 biting his arm, and I'm like, bravo, I said, what a 595 00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:07,599 great theatrical play. I don't. I have a hard time believe and stop 596 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,119 right. But all of a sudden it changed. He's biting so hard that 597 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,840 he's almost tearing his arm off. He blood's coming out of his arm. 598 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:21,760 It took his own arm on arm. He had no pain threshold. So 599 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,480 now Joe runs over, and you know, if you know Joe Fink, 600 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,960 he's not a small guy. He grabs the guy's arm. Orlando gets the 601 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,079 other guy's two more people. It took five or six guys to get the 602 00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:36,000 guy to stop biting his arm. It's like the guy has superhuman strength. 603 00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:38,920 So now Joe gets really upset. Joe says, you know what, So 604 00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:43,440 he goes, you want to pick on women and children? Orlando, at 605 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,519 this point makes the most fatal mistake Andy paranormal investigator could make, and he 606 00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:51,280 grates it to this day. He still won't come over to the house. 607 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,880 What happened to him? He challenges this thing. He says, why are 608 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,400 you picking on women and children? Why don't you come and pick on him? 609 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,719 I won't say it. I don't want to get screwed with. And 610 00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:05,880 he said, Joe, I aft up. Joe said, yeah, you're 611 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,119 dead. He goes, maybe nothing will happen earlier. You know, he 612 00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:13,280 goes, but you should not have said I slipped it, waited a year 613 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,320 and went after him with full vengeance. You know, that's a whole story. 614 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,880 So what happens next is Joe goes, go ahead, do something this 615 00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,760 time. Joe's like, I want to see what you are. Well upstairs 616 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,000 in the in the baby's room, there was an ordained minister. There was 617 00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:30,719 a camera woman. And the only reason I mentioned her weight like you hear 618 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,760 before, is because what happens next. The woman is about five feet tall, 619 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,800 about two hundred and thirty five pounds, and she says, taking pictures 620 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,719 everything. So when Joe goes to raise his hand out, you can feel 621 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,800 the house energy, you know those things. I said, Joe, don't 622 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,320 pick on his thing. He's like, no, no, He goes, 623 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,360 We've been in this field a long time. All of a sudden, as 624 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,599 he goes to say do something, you hear wam and you hear his Bloodthurson 625 00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:57,119 scream, Joe Orlando, anybody please help me. So I run up there, 626 00:42:57,159 --> 00:42:59,239 like you know, I try. I want to be the first out 627 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,519 there. I want to see what's on. I see this poor woman laying 628 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,800 almost down the staircase. People don't realize that when you see my staircase. 629 00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:10,039 We had the doorjam here and if she and I just I realize it years 630 00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:15,039 later. She was not intended to hit the door jam. If she went 631 00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:19,400 any further, she would have hit the wall and went down the stairs and 632 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,519 probably died. It picked her up like six to eight feet, their ordained 633 00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:27,480 minister. When I looked at him, he was standing with his tippeetoes against 634 00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:30,719 the wall. His face was like this, and I'm like, what happened? 635 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,760 Tell me what really happened? He goes one minute almost said her name. 636 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,639 I can't say that. But one minute she's standing there. He goes, 637 00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:42,480 next minute, I see her levertating off the ground and throwing and he 638 00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:45,079 goes, I have never seen nothing like that. So Orlando goes, you 639 00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:49,320 got to make the call, and Joe goes, I know, I said 640 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,719 what call. So they go downstairs, and of course we have landlines and 641 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,880 Joe has on speaker. He calls Lorraine Warren and he says, Lorrain, 642 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,119 my dear sweet friend, we need you here. And she says, tell 643 00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:04,280 me what's going on? Joe. He says, we witness a laboration, 644 00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:07,840 scratching, biting. He goes, my meetum almost bit his arm up, 645 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,519 and he goes, we need you. You got to come out. She 646 00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:15,039 was on standby and she said, wait a minute. She goes, you're 647 00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:19,400 not telling me everything. She goes, what there's something important that you left 648 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,800 out. Aren't you telling me? He said, uh, Lorraine, He 649 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:28,159 goes, so and so was picked up like a rag down and thrown on 650 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,800 the hall. There was a moment in silence. She says, Uh, 651 00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:36,559 tell the family. I'm truly sorry. I cannot come out. I will 652 00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:39,719 not put one foot in that house. She says, I'll talk to him 653 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,440 over the phone, I'll do what I can do. And they begged her. 654 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,760 They said, please, please, They said, this is something really 655 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,440 rare. Something is not right here. She said, I'm sorry, I 656 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,079 will help you guys, but she goes, I will not put one foot 657 00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:55,239 ouse to the day she died, she went to ans Nuntuck Committee to college 658 00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,320 down the street and feel she talked, but she would not come in anywhere 659 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,000 near this house. And I, as I'm looking back as we started, 660 00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:07,719 I found a text where I was talking to Orlando and I said in the 661 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,039 text it says, I said, what did Lorraine say? Well, she 662 00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:12,880 thinks, he goes, I just talked to her. She thinks there's a 663 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,679 demon, a powerful one. She goes, I'm gonna talk with Tony. 664 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,920 So all these years, Tony, everybody knew about it, but they refer 665 00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:24,159 to this case is a case that Lorraine wouldn't come out. Last year, 666 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:30,360 Dan came out with Chris, and Dan's like, hey, Chris, this 667 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,840 is the house. And he says, wow, house. He goes, 668 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,519 this is the house. He goes, damn. Well, he goes, 669 00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:36,679 what are you telling me? He goes, this is the house. You 670 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,360 hear Tony talk about that this is the only house that Lorraine refused to come 671 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:45,280 out to, and Chris is like, oh, I got you. So 672 00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:47,639 yeah, Well we have about nine minutes left. So I just want to 673 00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:52,880 make sure I'm telling you like like the story I could go on, but 674 00:45:53,000 --> 00:46:00,719 I am actually going to be at the house on Sunday and you and with 675 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,159 Matt and so we will have to have a follow up at some point on 676 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,000 this. But I wanted to ask you what is life like because you're still 677 00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:15,159 there, what is life for you like now in this house? Well, 678 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,880 well, I guess we'll answer for me. It's like almost being in a 679 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,760 war zone. It's calmed down. That one entity we believe it is God. 680 00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:29,599 It's not that bad anymore. That one entity we believe left in twenty 681 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,960 fifteen. It came with a high price from a guy who came up here 682 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,159 to get rid of it. It almost killed him. I guess there was 683 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,239 a deal struck where if it stayed, if if he stayed out of the 684 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,719 if he stayed out of the field helping people because he had a special gift. 685 00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:49,360 And I'll tell you really quick, but kind of what happened. The 686 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,679 guy came out, They paid for the whole trip to help us out. 687 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,639 The first day he didn't work. The second day it worked, so my 688 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,360 daughter kept calling up. His name was Jay Dodd and Jay Dot could talk 689 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,079 him. So finally Jadadd said, put your dad on the phone. He 690 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,920 goes, I can't help you anymore. What happened when he left and the 691 00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:08,679 dream, this antity went to him and the entity said stay away, get 692 00:47:08,679 --> 00:47:10,800 out of his field, stay away, And he said, I'm a man 693 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,199 of God. I'm not afraid of you. He said do you know who 694 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,679 I am? And j Dad said, I'm a man of God. A 695 00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:21,159 week later he had a massive heart attack, and then the entity came back 696 00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:22,039 in a dream. He goes, now do you know who I am? 697 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,800 So there was a deal struck. So since then, this one evil entity 698 00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:30,679 has not come back, but the other spirits that were being suppressed here they 699 00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:37,199 won't leave. And it's sometimes it's nerve wracking, it's cussed. Sometimes it's 700 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:42,880 really weird. The energy is sometimes really bad. Did you go somewhere and 701 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,719 then out of the blue you get so agitated. Did you really gonna start 702 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:52,039 kind of like fighting, kind of like almost like it once it did you 703 00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:55,960 and then you leave the house and then you don't even know why you fought 704 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,800 that stuff kind of like and I feel bad because my kids, both of 705 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,920 my kids have I guess, I would say a gift. They see stuff, 706 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,960 so be playing kind of like a little bit musical around in the house 707 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:21,039 where we sleep. So my daughter usually she sleeps three different bedrooms, and 708 00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,880 now we have a face again that she sleeps in the room. And now 709 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:29,079 she's on the couch again, so I guess something, So she moves around. 710 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:34,880 I switch around, so you maybe because she sees stuff and yeah, 711 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,960 that stuff, so it gives me. I don't know, I don't know 712 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,079 what it does, but I have to switch up. I go for my 713 00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:44,559 bed and then and then I'll go to the couch and then I'll go back 714 00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:47,920 to my bed. And then I had built two beautiful bedrooms in the attic. 715 00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:52,719 I had closed them off with the kids because I got older. And 716 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:59,159 as soon as I put her upstairs in this room upstairs, she's I can't 717 00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:01,639 sleep in there. She got talking about creatures and monsters and things. So 718 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:07,360 finally I built the other side over and my other daughter wanted that room. 719 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,119 As soon as she got in that room, it was, I don't want 720 00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:13,039 to say, it was like an experiment. She started talking about creatures and 721 00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:16,760 everything. So finally she was sleeping downstairs. And so finally when I had 722 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,079 the other room built, it was built for Elka. I made it into 723 00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:24,360 like a nice cottage looking was beautiful, and it came out beautiful. And 724 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:29,000 what happened was I tried sleeping in that room. I couldn't. I end 725 00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:35,119 up sleeping on my living room floor for about six months and on an air 726 00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:38,320 mattress because they did not want me in the attic. So I ended up 727 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:44,159 redoing my bedroom over, resheet rocking it. And while I was resheet rocking, 728 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,119 I felt like I was in some other house because I was sleeping on 729 00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:51,199 an air mattress while I was sheet rocking the ceiling getting the walls done. 730 00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:53,039 And finally, when I got the room done, Elka came down. But 731 00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:58,039 then Mackenzie she had a craft room. She was all happy. She took 732 00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:00,639 the old small room, made a room and she had it filled. So 733 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:05,920 Mackenzie said, the only I want that small room, otherwise I can't sleep 734 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,280 in her room. So we pulled everything out, made the craft him upstairs 735 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,679 here for Elka. Redid that whole entire thing. Got the bet I made 736 00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:16,760 for her put her up there, and it came after her. So now 737 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:22,840 she's sleeping downstairs on the living room and couch until something comes at her. 738 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:27,280 And this, this is not the demon. This is the spirits that are 739 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,320 there now, are still here. She still sees them in some some of 740 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:37,000 them, some of them are are human. They're human that they don't they 741 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,159 don't hurt you. The spirits here now, I don't hurt you. Even 742 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,920 the gangster from the twenties, he doesn't hurt you. He's kind of like 743 00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:46,719 he's curious about you more. And I think he's trying to figure out what 744 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:53,119 happened because he doesn't know if he was murdered or committed suicide. Because later 745 00:50:53,199 --> 00:50:57,639 on, I think he kind of kept pushing us to kind of find out 746 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,079 because I talked to his son before he and Sun filled in all kinds of 747 00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:06,079 information on what happened. So when he's here, and if I start talking 748 00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:08,679 about him, I'll start getting chills. And some people will actually hear him 749 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:13,440 walk in the door and it will set off cat balls and lights and you 750 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,320 can literally hear him once once in a blue moon walk across the floor and 751 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:22,880 you'll help come to the kitchen and like he's enjoying the conversation and so yeah, 752 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,119 this well, like I said, we tried three times to get out 753 00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:29,559 of here, and every time we try to get out, something horrific would 754 00:51:29,559 --> 00:51:31,360 happen. And I know we're short for a time. But one time, 755 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:37,719 the first time, within three weeks, I lost my brother, my sister, 756 00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:42,480 Elka's dog. They die. We don't know how they died. And 757 00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:45,679 then I find out that year my friend who was an attorney who was trying 758 00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:49,159 to help us get out, we found out that October in two thousand and 759 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,519 nine, Mike was teaching softball in Avon, Connecticut and had a massive heart 760 00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:58,760 attack and died. How do you keep people safe that come to the house 761 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,039 because they know you do have events. People come in and investigate what we 762 00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:05,199 do. Well, it took us years to figure out. Right now, 763 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,000 the spirits that are here now, like I said, Jay Dodd took this 764 00:52:09,079 --> 00:52:14,280 one entity away. So the spirits that we have now, they're human. 765 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,559 They lived here. So sometimes I tell them, you know, like when 766 00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:20,039 I'm cleaning the house and say, hey guys, there's an event tonight. 767 00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:22,960 Okay, stay on this side, don't come next door, you know, 768 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,760 and let them know they're they're trying to they're trying to communicate with you. 769 00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:30,960 Let them you know, they're not here to harm you. Let them talk 770 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,360 to you if you can show yourself or whatever you can do to let you 771 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,719 know. They're trying to find out who you guys were, and you guys 772 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:42,400 have a story. This is your house. You passed away here. Let 773 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,159 them get to know you. And so far, no one's got hurt. 774 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,880 I mean nobody. I mean that entity is gone. But as soon as 775 00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:52,840 if the entity ever came back, I tell the panelelm inveistigator, I shut 776 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,440 this house down, CeAl the door, and nobody can come in. I 777 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,920 don't want anybody getting hurt. But right now, you try to leave it 778 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,400 again if that happened, or would you stay at this point? Do you 779 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,719 think we tried and the last time we tried. I don't know. Probably 780 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:13,719 at this point, yeah, I would say probably in a better position to 781 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,639 say, or no, I would not say in a better position, but 782 00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:20,679 I would I would not care about anymore if I would leave it behind. 783 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:28,159 Kid's almost grown, almost done at school. I don't want to say it's 784 00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:30,880 a position to be, but it's just kind of like it would be probably 785 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,119 easier to say, you know what, I don't care if the house gets 786 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,360 yeah, and we're gonna go somewhere else. So I'm gonna I'm gonna talk 787 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,199 to you on Sunday. Reaching the end of the show and I have to 788 00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:46,239 say good night. We have a hard stop, but I will see you 789 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,599 on Sunday and i'd love to have you back on again. Thank you so 790 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:57,679 much. Have a good night, everyone, Take care and thanks for watching. 791 00:53:58,519 --> 00:54:02,039 I've been listening to the Paranoidal Project radio show with Scott Allen and Christina 792 00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:14,559 Bowen. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss the next episode. While 793 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:17,039 you're there, leave us a rating and review. We'll be back next week 794 00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:22,440 with more exciting guests. Now, go out there and explore the paranormal.