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It's time for coffee and company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day. Now here's Nick Coffee.
So the studio that I am broadcasting live

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from here, and I do it
each and every day at our beautiful iHeart

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Louisville studios at for Street live,
but very very clean. And it smells

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not as if you know somebody sprayed
something, but it just smells clean.

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And I realized somebody has used all
of these CHLORX wipes to wipe it down,

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not for me, because you know
this is if things don't smell great

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in here, I'm probably the one
person that would be blamed because I'm in

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here a lot more than others,
and I don't think it's stunk. But

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you know, they're getting it nice
and ready for the one and the only

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Buck Sexton who's going to be doing
his show here from this studio on Friday.

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He's in town for Derby and he'll
be doing Clay and Buck live from

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right where I'm standing. And you
know, the more I think about it,

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the more i'm you know, he
better better leave it like it was

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when he got here. What if
he left you a note? Not that

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he would, but like it'd be
interesting, wouldn't it. Yeah, but

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this is my turf, Buck,
Bucky boy, this is my domain.

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You know. They had they actually
had to ask permission. They had asked

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me permission, like, hey,
uh, the president of Premiere Networks they

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need a studio, they want to
use studio b would you mind reaching out

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to Nick Coffee and seeing if he'd
be okay with maybe letting maybe letting Buck

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use the studio? And I thought
about it. I was like, sure,

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why not? What a stand up
then, you know, but now

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I'm thinking, you know, if
he better be respectful because this, you

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know, this is my spot.
I mean not really. I mean there's

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a lot of people that use the
studio, but it is weird to think

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that, you know, he'll be
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I don't know anything about this guy
other than his name's Buck Sexton and he's

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on HAS with Clay Travis. I
mean, he's on every station in the

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country, seemingly, but you know
around here if you want to hear me,

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when Rush Limbaugh passed away and they
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the process of putting a new show
there, and I do give them credit

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for not putting I mean Clay and
Buck obviously lean a certain way that a

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lot of Rush Limbaugh fans, you
know, leaned. If you know what

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I'm saying, and the audience is, you know, relatively similar, I

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would say, but like, you
can't replace Rush Limbaugh, Like you can't

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just say, hey, you're going
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they did go in a different direction
from what I understand that show does really

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well. It's not it's not what
I listen to, but I wouldn't be

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shocked if it's like the most listened
to show in the country and he's going

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to be doing it right here in
front of this microphone that I'm yapping into.

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Buck Sexton, I'm I'm glad you
mentioned what he looks like, not

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that it matters because you know,
we're not big on personal appearance. Here,

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wouldn't anybody make in any comments about
my personal appearance. But doesn't look

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like a Buck. No, doesn't
look like a Buck. It was like

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a William or a Colin. Yeah, Colin or William. I could see

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it. I could see it.
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we have a guest schedule to join
us coming up at four thirty, We're

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gonna chat with mister Kevin Sweeney,
who covers college basketball for Sports Illustrated,

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to get his thoughts on the latest
with the transfer portal. And folks like

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Kevin, you know, those that
cover college basketball nationally are starting to be

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able to put together really early,
in fact, entirely too early, preseason

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rankings for next year. And I
know it's ridiculous because again, nobody really

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knows who's going to be on what
team. But I feel, and I

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could be wrong here, college football
is a much bigger deal than basketball.

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When it comes to moving the needle
national interest. But I think college basketball

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has benefited from the portal more than
any sport when it comes to just the

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sport being in the news cycle for
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year. And that's a good thing, right, Like we all know it's

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ridiculous to try to tell us who's
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the country next year, but we
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put together a preseason top twenty five, we're probably gonna look at it and

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you know, analyze it and assess
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Have you seen it, is anybod
I'm sure Leonardi's done a bracketology, hasn't

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he. I'm sure he has,
even though he initially had Indian analysts as

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an eight nine before all the transfer
portal editions. All Right, I'm gonna

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ask you this question. I want
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and I know you will. Do
you feel like what Woodson has done is

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getting the level of respect it deserves
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because I do feel like it's gotten
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media. But when it comes to
expectations, for next year. Most people

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are kind of slating them top fifteen
or sixteen. And that makes sense because

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what you're returning is people who didn't
make the NCAA tournament. They were good

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pieces, but you're trying to build
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year. Yeah. I mean,
I think you know, nobody's out there

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claiming that he's not doing well in
the portal, right, but I think

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Mike Woodson, you know, given
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three years? This is the year
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mean it doesn't sound like there were
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that you know, have say so
that he wouldn't be the coach after last

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season, But yet there was some
noise about it, right, and I

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think everybody knew that this guy needs
a big year the following year, year

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four coming up, and you know, we'll see, right, you know,

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we're a long way away from actually
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like he couldn't have done really,
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than what he's done right now,
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no, And I kind of feel
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don't know, it seems as if
it seems as if that's not getting the

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type of attention that I would have
expected. But then again, maybe I'm

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just so hyper focused on Louisville and
how the roster's going to come together that

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I'm not paying as much attention as
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Indiana could could have done better in
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this point it's going to be about
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and they're just as average as last
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in my opinion, that would be
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you know, you're you're totally right, But I guess where I really struggled

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to I guess understand Indiana fans last
year that were like Woodson had never done

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anything to kind of tell you that
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he also hasn't made a deep run, so therefore there was still I guess

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doubt, right, like he hasn't
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last year, as much as it
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know, you get the level of
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you went through the Archie Miller era, which was probably, at least in

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my lifetime, the worst era for
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years and didn't bat den eye about
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be a compliment to Woodson because in
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they made the tournament right, and
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you know, that irrational, impatient
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maybe him just getting to the tournament
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we know we can do that.
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better start making deep runs. Yeah, you know, maybe that's what it

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is. But anyways, I think
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so far in the portal. And
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but this never gets attention anywhere,
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of the most important things to do
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roster, right like it's it's it's
become a line Trillie Donovan throws out there

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every time somebody announces they're coming back
to school or they're not. They're removing

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their name from the portal. Sometime
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are the ones you already have.
And it's not that they're bringing back a

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first team All American, but anybody
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Indiana stuck around, I mean clil
Ware, But that's not realistic because he's

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going to the NBA, probably going
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think Indiana has a chance to be
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let's get you updated on the on
the latest with the local schools here.

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I'll start with Kentucky just because it's
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in the last few days. Earlier
today they landed another commitment, Brandon Garrison,

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who's transferring from Oklahoma State. He
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Andrew Carr Amari Williams. Is that
his name, I think it is right,

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Yes, MARII Williams from Drexel.
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done, because just like Louisville,
they're building an entire team. But if

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i'm if, I'm great Osibor,
the Utah State transfer who is on campus

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at Kentucky visiting while Garrison commits,
I'm not saying you're gonna be scared a

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competition and you're gonna run. But
if you're gonna connect dots here, I

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don't think you're having to try too
hard to connect these dots that say,

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maybe nil just wasn't going to be
doable with Osibor, so therefore they took

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the Garrison commitment. I mean,
there's still a chance they could get both,

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but I just when you look at
what transfers really prioritize it. It

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would be a very rare move for
a guy like Osibor, who has,

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you know, a lot of options, one of the best players in the

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portal to commit after Kentucky has just
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window. So Garrison is a former
McDonald's All American. Played his freshman season

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last year at Oklahoma State. Averaged
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yeah, seven points, five boards
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a good young freshman. I remember
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watching him. I remember him as
a recruit because again he was a McDonald's

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All American. But that's a guy
who doesn't have crazy numbers, but he's

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productive enough as a freshman showed flashes
to where if he makes a jump from

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freshman a sophomore, that could be
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So after that commitment, that is
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on thinking they need to really and
here's what I love about this. It's

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been a while since this has happened
to where Louisville fans really have no direct

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involvement in the recruitment of a player. Clearly, I think we all know

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that. I think if you have
a passionate fan base and they make that

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evident with social media or just you
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see could be a part of when
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see ousibor at Oaks or Therby,
whatever it may be. Like, you

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know, clearly Louisville fans can really
make an impression, but there seems to

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be a level of like, all
right, we got to get to work

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here. And again it's silly,
but it also is what makes this great.

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And it's not just louisll fans that
are like this. I'm sure Kentucky

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fans did the same thing. Indiana
fans too, But we know this kid

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is going to be visiting in the
next few days, and Louisvill's got a

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chance, and we won't really have
any impact on his decision. But I

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just love that there are people at
their work this earlier today, like just

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kind of pacing things and what can
I do to help? And it's because

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you know, this is a really
good player that would really really I mean,

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it would be a it would be
a splash if you were able to

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add this guy. And you've already
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with CHUCKI hepburn, which, by
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is anytime a guy commits, a
couple of days go by. I feel

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like it's been two months since these
guys committed. I guess, I guess

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because it's never ending, right,
It's NonStop. So Osabor is also going

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to visit Texas Tech in not Baylor, but Texas Tech in Washington, where

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his former coach Danny Sprinkle is now
coaching. So anybody who's covered this at

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the you know, at the national
level, has has made it clear and

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they're reporting that he is expected to
visit every single school, like he won't

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make a decision till after he visits
everywhere, so who knows where he's gonna

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end up. But I can't help
but think the other three pieces that Kentucky's

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added in the front court I have. I mean, I think that helps

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Louisville. Doesn't mean I think they're
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I think it helps them. And
Pat Kelsey he's proven to be a hell

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of a salesman, so you know, he's uh, he's I don't want

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to say he's on the clock,
like he needs to get it done like

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asap. But I imagine they're gonna
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speak, and really show what the
city is as far as basketball crazy.

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I mean, there's no better time
to visit Louisville, Kentucky than during derby

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week. I mean, that's like
a perfect scenario. So we'll see.

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But again, I've mentioned it many
times, why not mention it once more?

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It is you know, it is
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and things go great, in a
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Texas Tech and then Washington, it
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people were just you know, they
were right that he was going to visit

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every single place that was on his
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a decision. All right, Now
back to the Louisville I'm sorry, back

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to the Kentucky said really quickly.
Here. Kobe Brea is the transfer from

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Dayton who is visiting Kentucky as we
speak, and it sounds like every member

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of Big Blue Nation is just on
the edge of their seat, refreshing social

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media to see if he is in
fact ready to make a decision. I

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wouldn't. I mean, I don't
even know what other schools he's considering now,

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right. He couldn't end up going
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believe because of a credit situation.
Yukon no longer involved because they just added

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the Saint Mary's transfer, So I
mean, I'm not sure what the hold

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up is. Maybe maybe Kentucky,
Mark Pope. They don't want these guys

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committing on the same day because it
could take away some of the spotlight from

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each of them. I have no
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he doesn't end up committing to Kentucky, which would be a really good get

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for them, no doubt about it. What if they did something corny like

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Bill self and Hunter Dickinson did,
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I mean, it's kind of their
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but yeah, that was that was
corny for sure, but it was

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also just I mean, like it
wasn't really decent, Like do you think

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that was funny? Like for those
who missed it, Bill's self on was

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it Friday tweeted out, yeah,
hey at Hunter Dickinson or whatever his Twitter

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handle is, the people are asking
what are you doing? Are you coming

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back? And Hunter Dickinson just responded
to the tweet and said something like I'm

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back or I don't know, rock
chalk. Yeah, I mean it was

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just I mean, I don't know
like it was. It was fine,

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but I feel like there had to
be like a lot of collac Like I

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just envisioned somebody thinking that thinking of
that that way to let everybody know one

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hundred dicts it's coming back to Kansas, and I just to me, it

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gives off the vibe if you really
thought you did something cute there, you

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know what I mean, And it
like it wasn't at all. Maybe it

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was the social media interns idea or
something. I don't know, but either

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way it's a big get because he's
a really good player that's probably going to

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play in college for twenty years.
It seems, all right, before we

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get to our first break here in
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to let you hear a Derby profile. But also I wanted to share this,

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this this stat with you cause I
just think it it's interesting and I

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think the reason for this is pretty
obvious. But the NBA Early Entry list

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was released earlier today, one hundred
and ninety five players officially eligible for the

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NBA Draft that have entered early.
Oh. The number of early entrants.

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This is the lowest it's been since
two thoy and seventeen, and a year

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where the draft is believed to be
the week is draft in the history of

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the association. What does that tell
you? These dudes know their best option

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as far as financially, I mean, really, that's probably the biggest part

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of it is Financially it's a money
thing. They're better off to stay in

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college and make money playing college basketball
through in il. Again, it's the

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lowest it's been since twenty and seventeen, in a year where the draft is

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quite literally believed to be and that's
not my opinion. It's people who cover

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the draft and are you know,
involved in that NBA you know, like

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they cover the draft, talked NBA
gms, that kind of stuff. And

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if you just look at the mock
drafts that are out there for this upcoming

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draft, I mean it's a week
draft. Now, is it the weakest

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of all time? I wouldn't know, but that's a real sign that college

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basketball is benefitting from this. You
know, people who lose their players to

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the portal because of nil, like
Wisconsin fans who are still crying about losing

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Chucky Hepburn because of money. Like
they're going to tell you that it's ruining

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everything, and I get it,
Like if I was in their shoes,

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I'd be bummed to But overall,
the take away, you know how you

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benefit or suffer from it as a
fan regarding your program, and just look

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at the amount of players that are
still playing college basketball that make the product

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better because so many of these guys
would have left years ago because they couldn't

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make money, and they'd want to
go make money playing in Europe, and

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they wouldn't it used to be a
years ago, it would be he's going

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pro where in Shauma Like that used
to be a thing. I would hear

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all the time from fans. The
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And it's because and they know that, like guys would go pro knowing

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they have no chance of sniffing the
National Basketball Association, it's because they're going

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pro because they want to start making
money playing the game. We can do

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our jobs, most of us,
I would say, when we are old

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and you know, aren't in shape
anymore. If you are a basketball player

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and you can do it professionally,
you have a window that you have that

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you can maximize and make money playing
the game you love. The longer you

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stay in college not making money,
the less money you're gonna be able to

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make because it's taking time off of
your pro clock. So now that these

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guys can make money, some of
them make more money in college than they

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would in any league outside of the
NBA. It's it's good for the it's

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good for the game of college basketball. I believe that. All right,

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who's next in our Derby profile?
Here? John just steal, just steal.

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Let's hear it now, look at
the Kentucky Derby field, one by

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one, just steal the most experienced
horse in the Kentucky Derby field. Just

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happens to be trained by the most
experienced trainer in the Kentucky Derby field.

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Eighty eight year old Hall of Fame
trainer d Wayne Lucas has four Kentucky Derby

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victories. He had his first Kentucky
Derby starter way back in nineteen eighty one.

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Lucas will saddle Just Steel in this
year's Kentucky Derby, a base son

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of Triple Crown winner Justified. Just
Steele has raced eleven times during his career,

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seven as a two year old and
four times with three runner up finishes

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as a three year old. He
was the one of our two year olds

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that we picked out early. Absolutely, he's got the pedigree forward, he's

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got the size and everything. The
same with him is he was so big

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that he was a little bit awkward
and I didn't push him. I gave

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him experience. As you've been seen
by the few two years of past performance

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that he had a lot of experience, but I didn't push him a little

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bit. Out of Justified second crop
of foals, Just Steel opened his career

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in mid July with a second place
finish at Saratoga breaking his maiden in the

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next race, and then ran seventh
in the hopeful sixth in the Breeders' Futurity

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at Keenland, came to Churchill Downs, ran third in an optional claiming race,

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and then won a minor stinks race
at Churchill Downs. On November twenty

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fifth, when the calendar turned to
January, Lucas was thinking Kentucky Derby.

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Just Steele was second in the Smarty
Jones on New Year's Day, second in

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the Southwest Stakes at Oakland Park.
In early February, he finished seventh in

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the Rebel Stakes, but came back
just over a month later and was second

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Tom Youth in the Arkansas Derby.
It started number fifty for Lucas. He's

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four for forty nine. Can he
do it again? With just Steele?

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Really fun at my age, I
mean here to be in and I think

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I'm probably gonna be the oldest one
to ever run on Let alone we win

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a little, do some kind of
record. I'll tell you what. When

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I think of death Lefford poured some
sugar on me. I think of Kevin

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Sweeney, who covers college back basketball
for Sports Illustrated. Kevin, how we

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doing? I can't explain that introduction, but you know, it was the

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song that was playing. And now
I'm going to probably think about you when

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I think of def Leopard, pour
some sugar on me. I don't know

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if I should be honored by that
or not, but I'll take it.

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I appreciate you having it. It's
Derby week here, man. Things just

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get weird during the Kentucky Derby Week. So you know we are we're a

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horse racing town for this event,
but we also are a college basketball town,

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you know, year round. And
I'll just pick up where we left

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off in the last segment. So
the numbers that were reported by Jonathan Giavoni

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of ESPN as far as the early
entrance to the NBA Draft, it's the

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lowest since twenty seventeen. It's got
to be a product of guys realizing,

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Hey, financially, my best move
is to stick around in college basketball as

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long as I can, some guys
playing six seven years, because that's that's

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where I can make money. Yeah, Like, I think that's one hundred

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percent true, right, Like I
think I think there's an understanding now that

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there's a ton of value in sticking
around. I mean, the numbers that

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you hear thrown out with nil.
There's going to be a lot of players

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who make more money this year than
they ever play again playing college basketball,

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yep, are playing basketball as a
whole, right, Like there are guys

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who are going to make two A
contract NBA money that are not nearly good

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enough to get a two A contract. And is that a criticism. No,

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it's just the system. That's how
it is. And if you're that

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guy, you should probably stick around, should probably at least do what's out

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there. I do think that early
engine number will go up. I know

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Givoni's report that there was a couple
of names that didn't make the list that

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should have, but there were some
clerical areaors whatnot. But it will be

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a lower number, And I do
you think a big part of that is

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because, as you said, there's
an understanding that the money is good enough

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to not want to leave college basketball
early. So so far, who would

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you say, not necessarily the best
team is going to be. That's to

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be determined whence the dust settles.
And you know, every one of these

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guys in the portal ends up finding
a landing spot. But who do you

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feel like just from the portal specific
right. That means you think they're going

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to be one of the best teams
in the country. But who do you

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who would you say has has in
your eyes, done the best navigating this

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whole thing, and that is keeping
guys you want and making sure you're adding

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talent that's available. It's a great
question. I mean, I think Kansas

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has been the obvious name. Kansas
and indiana've gotten the biggest names. I

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think the one I would shout out
that's probably right below them and might have

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the best class is Ole miss They've
gotten four really really good players. Sean

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Padula a starter, Virginia tech point
guard, can really really create, make

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shots. Drey Davis. You know
a guy who's you know, we're familiar

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to you guys and can had a
great year of seeology perfect Chris player,

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Yeah, perfect right, slasher,
aggressive, tough dog. And then yeah,

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one hundred percent. And then Malik
Dia and Mikhail Brown Jones to two

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mid major guys who are really really
talented, versatile, uh can play multiple

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positions. I think that's that's the
type of group you want to build if

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you're going to spend a bunch of
money on a transfer class and they're also

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going to be able to retain some
guys that retain Jam and Breakfield of the

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Duke transfer. They are trying to
retain Matthew Morell, who's tests in the

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draft. I think he will end
up coming back and they could be a

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really really good team next year with
all those guys. Intel So the schools

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around here, they're building an entire
team mostly from the portal. In fact,

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there's no freshman going to be on
the roster for Pat Kelsey in year

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one. There's going to be one
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So the rankings depending upon you know, everybody's got their own way of

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putting their rankings together. But I
kind of feel like it's really it's almost

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impossible because you're going to probably add
five guys just to give you a complete

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team that really aren't going to do
much as far as moving the needle.

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So, you know, how would
you assess We'll start with Louisville, I

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mean, Pat Kelsey again starting from
scratch, and right now they've got eight

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players. One will be a red
shirt, But how would you assess the

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pieces they've added up to this point. I think he's done a great job.

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I think he's gotten guys that sort
of fit together. He's gotten guys

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that have been a part of winning. I think seven of the eight guys

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that they've signed played in the NSA
Tournament this past year. That's a big

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deal. They've gotten guys who in
some cases will have multiple years, you

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know, with with Trey Orr and
James Scott, Corn Johnson should have another

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year. So I think that that's
a big deal. Like, I don't

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think you want to go into next
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with thirteen more scholarships. So I
think all in all, I mean,

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as good as you could have asked
for. Now they need some more front

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court depths, you know, maybe
one more wing and get you know,

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obviously had some depths. But I
think all things considered, they've done a

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really, really nice job on the
Kentucky side. I think a week ago,

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I don't think their fans were panicking, but you know, it was

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a little bit slow moving. I
think at that point they had just added

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to Maari Williams as far as transfers
who you know, weren't already committed to

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Kentucky or connected to Pope in some
way. And now they've added a few

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names in the last seventy two hours
or so. You know, I gotta

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be honest. I think Mark Pope's
done a pretty good job here. I

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think He's identified guys that will fit
well with what he wants to do.

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And they still got a lot of
spots open, just like Louisville. But

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I feel like in just a few
days time, you know, the situation

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Likeson looks a lot different than it
did, you know a week ago.

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Yeah, look, I think they've
just raised the floor a lot by getting

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dude to are proven. I mean, I don't think Andrew Carr take a

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away Leman Butler, guys like that
are going to set the world on fire

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Kentucky. But they're solid pieces.
They've been a part of college back,

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you know, competitive college basketball teams
for a while. They had toughness,

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athleticism, they had defense, which
is a big deal for Pope given that

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you know, you know he's going
to be able to scheme up shots for

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guys, right so you know,
certainly Garrison this morning was a was a

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notable get, particularly given who is
recruiting him. I think they are in

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good shape. I do. I
do think this group is lacking star power.

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I think that's going to continue because
there's not a lot of star power

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in the portal. It's really really
hard to get guys who you know,

406
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.039
are transferring, who are proven all
conference level high major players. I'm not

407
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.559
sure they've gotten one of those yet, but they've gotten a bunch of good

408
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.720
players, and the hope would be
the Pope, like he did a BYU

409
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:15.359
can make the whole greater than the
sum of the parks, so great osabor

410
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.240
the Utah State transfer. He visited
Kentucky. I think he's there as we

411
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.920
speak. He's going to make his
way to Louisville next, and then he's

412
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:26.000
going to visit Texas Tech in Washington
before he makes a decision. Do you

413
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.319
have any feel for which way?
I mean, obviously following Danny Sprinkle wouldn't

414
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.039
be a big surprise, but he
is visiting other schools prior to that,

415
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.440
you know, any you have any
feel for what this guy's looking for?

416
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:37.839
Is it mostly going to be in
il related which a lot of these guys

417
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.599
obviously do want to make money,
But he could be a humongous piece for

418
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.920
either of these two local teams if
one of them was able to get him.

419
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.480
Yeah, look, I don't know
that Kentucky's out, but I think,

420
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.720
you know, the moves they made
in the front court maybe make Louisville

421
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:56.200
make more sense as of now.
I think Nils a factor, just like

422
00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:00.000
it is with every big recruitment.
But I think role is really important.

423
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.799
I mean, this is a guy
who you know was willing to bide his

424
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.880
time at Montana State, played two
years off the bench. I mean,

425
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.400
okay, he was coming off the
bench at Montana State a year ago at

426
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.279
this time, transfers to Utah State
with Danny Sprinkle and absolutely explodes. So

427
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.960
I do think that there's some trust
level in Sprinkle. There's some trust level

428
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:23.160
in like wanting to be in a
good situation like he was in at Montana

429
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.720
State and at Utah date with Sprink, I think that Louisville makes a lot

430
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:33.519
of sense for him stylistically with how
he plays and how pack Kelsea's teams play.

431
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:37.519
But I really wouldn't be surprised if
it's any of the four options.

432
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:41.480
A little surprised with Kentucky just given
what they've done around him in the front

433
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:45.720
court, but I think it's pretty
wide open that so now, Kevin Sweeney's

434
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.559
our guest we're talking some college hoops. He covers college hoops for Sports Illustrated.

435
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:55.119
So with the NCAA looking as if
they're going to make these student athletes

436
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.319
employees, it sounds like there's a
lot of momentum for that. Obviously,

437
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.160
this this current set up, if
you don't even want to call it that,

438
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:03.599
it's just not sustainable. I'm not
really sure there is a setup.

439
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.279
It is truly what people say,
you know, the wild wild West.

440
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.200
I mean, I'm just asking you
to guess here, what kind of framework

441
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:12.279
do you think we'll see here?
I mean, is this going to be

442
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:15.920
you know, you think they could
have college basketball players where you know their

443
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.599
employees and they're paid, but you
know, everybody's kind of on the same

444
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.920
level as far as basketball. Like, I guess there's a lot of different

445
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:25.079
ways they could go. But I
do wonder if you know, nil,

446
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:26.599
I mean, with with it no, like, will you still be able

447
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.400
to make in il if you are
already making money as an employee. I

448
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.519
mean, again, I'm just asking
you, do I guess predict the future

449
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:36.359
here? But it sounds as if
this chaotic world that we've had in the

450
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:37.920
last couple of years is going to
come to an end soon. It's just

451
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.400
who knows what the hell it's going
to look like moving forward. Yeah.

452
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.960
Look, I think the one kind
of you know, unique factor here is

453
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:49.400
that there's a real business that has
come about around nil. There's a lot

454
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.480
of people in the quote unquote anil
space who want to get part of the

455
00:29:53.480 --> 00:30:00.440
future of college athletics. The people
involved with collective I think they've enjoyed running

456
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.880
collectives, They've enjoyed the power that
they've gotten around their campuses, and so

457
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:08.880
I do think they're you know,
these collectives will go kind of grasping and

458
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:11.279
clawing into the night if nothing else, like, they're going to try to

459
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.519
be involved. I would not be
surprised. Again. Once you get to

460
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:19.640
a point where you could make some
sort of bargaining between the schools and the

461
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:25.319
athletes, you can do a lot
more to restrict what where money is coming

462
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:30.240
from, how how money is being
allotted. Like that's the important thing,

463
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.680
right because at the end of the
day, what's causing the chaos Now,

464
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:38.200
it would still be chaotic if schools
themselves were allowed to just say I'm paying

465
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.359
you eight hundred thousand dollars now when
you were getting paid for at your other

466
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.359
school, right Like, if if
the schools are operating that way, it's

467
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:47.960
going to be just as chaotic as
it is now. It'll just be a

468
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.160
little less back channeled, if you
will. So, I think the most

469
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.720
important thing is getting to a place
where there's a there are agreed upon rules

470
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.119
that can be enforced without being without
creating in a lawsuit right away. And

471
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.359
I think that's that's what we're hoping
for, whether that's through unemployment model,

472
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.920
whether it's a you know, a
modified model that's set up you know,

473
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.200
probably you know, with the help
of Congress or the federal government. You

474
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.960
know. I think that's where we
need to head because, Uh, you

475
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.759
are correct like that there is no
guarantee that quote unquote ni l and certainly

476
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:23.960
like true endorsement deals shouldn't end.
The real question would be, could be

477
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.880
collective model where you're not really being
paid for your nil, you're being paid

478
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:32.599
for your performance through a third party. Uh, would would that continue?

479
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.079
I think the answer to that is
no, but I think it will take

480
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:37.680
some time to sort all of that
out. You are connected in the college

481
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.880
basketball world. I know you have
relationships with with coaches, assistant coaches.

482
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:48.799
Would you would you say that they
are more wanting there to be structure with

483
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.880
the portal or with NIL. I
think both are a big headache for them,

484
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.839
no doubt. But I get the
sense that here lately, with anybody

485
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:57.839
being able to transfer as many times
as they want in the last couple of

486
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.559
years, I feel like that that's
become the bigger headache than NIL. I

487
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.759
guess two. They're kind of both
the same thing. Right. A guy

488
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:07.119
will leave because he thinks he can
go make money. But I just think

489
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.480
coaches would probably take it, take
it if they could, if they could

490
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.960
put one in place to where it's
no longer as big of an issue.

491
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.960
I think they would probably just not
let these guys transfer as much as they

492
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.920
are more than they more than they
would worry about the money factor. Yeah.

493
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.720
Look, I think the two catalyze
one another, right. But I

494
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:29.400
think the thing that's most challenging right
now is the idea of control. Right.

495
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:32.519
College coaches used to have probably too
much control over what their players did,

496
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.000
where they went, et cetera.
Now they have absolutely no control,

497
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.759
and it causes the chaos that we
see, right, And I think schools

498
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:45.759
need to feel like they have some
level of control and planning of their roster,

499
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.839
not just year over year, but
day over day, week O a

500
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:53.160
week, month of a month.
And I think that's that's really what's necessary,

501
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:57.960
right if you can have a you
know, every school, especially at

502
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.599
the highest level, can figure out
a way to pay kids, especially if

503
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.599
there's a contract involved that says,
hey, if he's on a two year

504
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:07.680
nil deal, you are here for
two years. We can't run you off.

505
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.240
You can't leave to go somewhere else. If you do, there will

506
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.839
be a financial consequence. Right then
you can plan ahead. We don't get

507
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.799
into the space. And I tweeted
tweeted another one today where the kid signs

508
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.160
an NIL deal with to stay at
his school and then two weeks later gets

509
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.160
an offer from somewhere else and now
he's signing another deal and leaving the school.

510
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.960
Right that type of stuff is ridiculous. That's the stuff that's giving people

511
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:31.640
the most headaches. And that's the
stuff I think the coaches really want to

512
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:36.839
get away from, is the changes
on a day to day basis that are

513
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:38.920
they're experiencing right now. I'm with
you, and I actually think the way

514
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:44.559
that happened with football with guys transferring
at the end of December and then going

515
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:47.519
through spring taking an ail money and
then never and leaving once again three months

516
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:52.240
later. I mean, I think
that actually raised the awareness of how ridiculous

517
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.559
all this is to a really really
high level, and the existence of the

518
00:33:55.640 --> 00:34:00.519
NCAA. From the beginning of time
until the last couple of years, the

519
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.480
players had no power. No I
mean not to say they were all victims

520
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:05.960
or anything, but they really had
no power, no control. And now

521
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:07.920
as we speak right now, they
have every bit of it. It's just

522
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:13.039
crazy how how different that has changed. So some structures, some you know,

523
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.360
some you know, a system is
what's needed, and it sounds like

524
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.519
sounds like that's coming. All right, last last question for you here a

525
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.559
little bit of a rapid fire Kevin. So, I know you do some

526
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:23.440
work for the crew over there at
the Field of sixty eight, and yesterday

527
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:28.039
they unveiled the top ten available players
in the portal. I'm going to give

528
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.320
you the top five here. You
give me a guess as to where you

529
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.400
think they're going to end up.
You ready, Oh jeez, yeah.

530
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:40.559
John L. Davis Arkansas, Kadari
Richmond, Saint John's Nord chad Omere,

531
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:49.679
Saint John's cliff o'marui may Bee saying
that incorrectly from Ruggers. Clyss is a

532
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.800
tough one to crack right now,
I'm going to guess Georgetown, all right,

533
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:57.360
it'd be a big get for at
Cooley. Uh great, Osibor,

534
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.159
I think little all right? I
like it. Good stuff, Kevin,

535
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:05.199
you are the man. I appreciate
you making time for us. Keep up

536
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.719
the great work and we will talk
sooner, right my friend, thanks sir?

537
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.559
All right, that's Kevin Sweeting does
a great job covering college hoops for

538
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:16.599
the fine folks at Sports Illustrated.
If Patino gets Kudari Richmond in Nord shadow

539
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:22.480
Mere, that alone would make him, I think the winner of the portal

540
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:27.199
at the high level. I mean, that's monster and Omeir. I think

541
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.039
everybody's familiar with him. But Kudaari
Richmond played at Seton Hall, and you

542
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.400
know, they didn't get a whole
lot of limelight because they weren't that good,

543
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.079
and they're in the Big East Meeting. Their games are never on ESPN.

544
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.440
But I mean, he's the second
best player in the portal for good

545
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:42.440
reason. Maybe that's a stretch to
say that would give Patino like the best

546
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:44.960
class because I don't know what else
he's done, but those are Those would

547
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.239
be two massive pickups for Patino.
All right, quick break, we'll come

548
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.719
back on the other side. Wrap
hip the four o'clock hour, let you

549
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.159
hear another Derby profile and keep this
thing rolling along on Sports Talk seven ninety

550
00:35:55.119 --> 00:36:00.320
Just a reminder, I will not
be here on Thursday and Friday, so

551
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:02.679
tomorrow with my last day of the
week, but you'll you'll be in good

552
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:08.719
hands. So I went to Churchill
Downs this morning backside of Churchill Downs for

553
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:13.320
about an hour or so, walked
around uh with uh with my son.

554
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:19.880
And I've mentioned before he's absolutely obsessed
with horse racing, and obviously he's three

555
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.280
years old. He doesn't know a
ton about it. I mean he now

556
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.199
at least knows like he picks a
winner, or he picks a horse and

557
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:29.679
watches the race, and he now
really gets into it, cheers and is

558
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.840
bummed when his horse loses, uh
and happy if they win. Uh.

559
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.519
And if they don't win, he'll
he'll think of some reason. Uh,

560
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.880
he must have been tired, maybe
maybe the jockey was bad. He's so

561
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:44.880
he you know, he's he's already
trying to justify any losses that he has,

562
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.519
but uh, today might have put
him put it over the top.

563
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:52.119
I mean he's I mean, he
is going to want to go there every

564
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.440
day. And if you've got young
kids and you do want like you for

565
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:59.679
example, one morning, uh,
I decided to take both my kids,

566
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:06.119
my daughter and my son to get
donuts and ah a fist freeze from from

567
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:09.320
Thornton's slushy. And I didn't realize
that, you know what, Like now

568
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:12.760
they're gonna expect that every day and
we don't get to do it every day,

569
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.480
but we do it a lot.
And I know that's a very nutritious,

570
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.440
healthy breakfast for my young children,
just nothing but sugar. But I'm

571
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:21.719
hoping he doesn't think that this is
like a regular thing. But it was

572
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.079
really cool to be able to to
get back there and and just let him

573
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:29.000
see the horses walking up to the
barn, and and everybody was so nice

574
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.679
too. I know, I think
they could tell that this little three year

575
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:36.440
old was, you know in heaven, you know, not just like fascinated,

576
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:39.119
but like he was walking around like
he was Christmas morning, and you

577
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:43.719
know, he got in every present
he wanted or something. So you got

578
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:45.119
to pet some of them, some
of the horses, I should say,

579
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.119
didn't pet people. But one thing
we got to work on with him.

580
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.199
If if he sees somebody that's walking
a horse or just near a horse,

581
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:58.159
he assumes that that they're the jockey. So like he was, hey jockey,

582
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.079
hey jockey talking to you know,
like people who aren't jockeys, And

583
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.440
I'm like, hey, buddy,
not everybody's a jockey. Like people may

584
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:05.960
think, you know, like you're
insulting them or something. I don't know,

585
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.000
you never know, somebody's going to
take something. But it was.

586
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.400
It was. We avoided the rain
too, so it was great. So

587
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.599
that got me a little bit more
into the Derby spirits. Right, I'm

588
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:16.800
still not somebody that is going to
be a phony and act like I know

589
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:21.920
anything about horse racing at all.
But we are just five days away now

590
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.960
from from Kentucky Derby one point fifty. You want to get back into that,

591
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:28.760
guest, let's real quickly, let's
do it. Yeah, because uh,

592
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:30.719
you know, we we did this
yesterday for those that weren't with us,

593
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:37.480
but the annual Barnstable Brown Derby Eve
gala is is coming up, uh

594
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.679
you know, on Derby night or
the night before Derby in every year they

595
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:45.679
invite a star studded list of celebrities
to be a part of it. And

596
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.280
some of these celebrities are celebrities that
we're well aware of, we know.

597
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:53.880
But then there's some that you kind
of you know, maybe we're in the

598
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:58.039
minority and we don't know who they
are. But let's let's pick. Let's

599
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:02.199
we know Joey Fatone, right,
yeah, in sake Bobby Brown, I

600
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:07.440
don't know. I hate. I
feel like I'm very oh Man, all

601
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.559
right, I gotta ask the audience, is it is it? I mean,

602
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.920
is it just? Is it justifiable
for John who is twenty six years

603
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:22.639
old to not know who Bobby Brown
is? He's a famous singer who was

604
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:29.360
married to Whitney Houston. His his
run as a famous musician was long before

605
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:31.679
you were born, So therefore,
I mean, I think that's that's you

606
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:36.400
know, you wouldn't It's not like
you would have been around when he was,

607
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.000
you know, putting out music that
got a lot of attention. But

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honestly, most of his fame,
I feel like he's known for his legal

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issues, his relationship with Whitney Houston, and you know, he's had some

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controversy throughout, but that that's the
first one so far on the list that

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John, I gotta be honest with
you, I kind of I'm kind of

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surprised you don't know who he is, but not like me talking about him.

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Isn't even ringing a bell. The
right thing that I would ask is

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is he related to James Brown the
singer? No? Well, then even

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more clueless. Yeah, I mean
this one's out of left field. Yeah,

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I mean so yeah, I mean, look, it's okay. I

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mean it's again more often than not, when I'm like, how do you

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not know who this is? I
give it a quick thought and think,

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okay, makes total sense because you
know you're ten years younger than I am.

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But all right, one more,
let's see Lee Brice, singer Country.

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Of course, I like Lee Bryce. I'm not a bad performer.

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Though, what if he just got
to town and turned on Sports Talk seven

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ninety. I'm sure how you open
up for Luke Bryan when truth hurts?

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Lee Bryce. Yeah, he's not
a very good live performer. I've never

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seen him live, but I feel
like he hasn't had like a it's been

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a while. He's put something new
out. Yeah, maybe this is like

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his his you knows, he's losing
his celebrity status attad and he's you know,

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trying to you know, trying to
be a big big star here derby

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joining the big Derby party. We
don't have time to do one of those.

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Do let's just double up in the
in the in the because we don't

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have a lot of time left.
But we'll let you hear more about each

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of these Derby horses as we lean
on our man Jody Demmling, who does

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a profile for each of the horses
running in Kentucky Derby. We've played a

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lot of them so far, and
we'll play a few more in the five

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o'clock hour, So again, five
o'clock hour coming up next. One more

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hour left right here on Sports Talk
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