WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:07.320 And we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete seven LA Sports. Don't forget. 2 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:12.199 It's really one of the events of the season, and it'll be happening later 3 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:18.839 this hour. For years you've wanted to hear from this man. It wasn't 4 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:23.760 easy, but we've tracked him down. He will go down as one of 5 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:28.800 the most memorable athletes in the history of Los Angeles Sports. Build. Well, 6 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:32.000 when you can get this guy on the show, all bets are off. 7 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:38.320 Yes, legendary Clipper center Banoyd Benjamin will be on the program later this 8 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:43.159 hour. It's one of the highlights of us doing this show together. No 9 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:47.359 one's hearned from him because ruling nobody's wanted to, but we have and we 10 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:50.840 found him and he will be on the show. All right, here's a 11 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:54.640 man that we must hear from the conscience of the paper, the voice of 12 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.960 the people, from the LA Times. It is Bill Plashky. Build, 13 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:02.479 good afternoon. You didn't track that boy, Benjamin. He was handed to 14 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:07.319 you by his agent. But what are you talking about? Getting Bill that's 15 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:11.159 not true? Giving Bill that there is no truth. He will be a 16 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:15.840 better guess than I'll be. Benjamin was one caught by Dick mattal a disgrace 17 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:18.840 in the game of basketball. He's gonna be a better guess than me. 18 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:25.159 Come on the best. And by the way, it was not his agent, 19 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:27.920 Bill, It was a guy doing a documentary and semantics, semantics. 20 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:33.439 He was hand delivered. Now track him down, good lord? Well you 21 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:38.120 know what, you have no idea how long I've been looking for him? 22 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:42.840 There, Yeah, you're the only one in the ladies is looking for him. 23 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:46.599 All right, what are you gonna ask him? Wow, I'm gonna 24 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:49.439 ask him about when he took two left shoes to Sacramento. I dare make 25 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:53.280 that the first question. I dare to make it at the first question you 26 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.959 want to do? He just dared you, rerad what are you talking about? 27 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.799 Of course he was. I want to hear it, but I will. 28 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:04.879 I'm always listening. Is coming on that damn show? But no it 29 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:07.360 is not listening. He's eating chicken, and uh, I will. I 30 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:12.159 will ask that the first question. I will ask that. Yes, I 31 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:15.120 will bring that up. Well, we'll see, we'll see before he hangs 32 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:19.000 up on you, Oh, he'll be fine. And if he hangs up 33 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.080 then it was a brief interview, but at least I got to ask my 34 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:23.199 question. All right, Belle, you track him down, you at to 35 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:29.520 get a journalists you so two topics, uh, I want to do Lakers 36 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:34.199 and Dodgers. Start with Lakers, I have said, the coaching search, 37 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:38.879 the drama surrounding it. Does it really matter they are what they are? 38 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:42.599 What do you think? I totally agree with you. No matter who they 39 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:45.800 get the coaches team, they're going to fight to get it. Being the 40 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:49.639 playing game. As long as Lebron's there, he he weighs him down. 41 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:53.439 It's salary, weigs him down. They're not gonna they can't win with with 42 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:57.520 him there, and they won't with him there. Well, what worries me 43 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:00.560 is some of the names coming up there. What do you have about JJ 44 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:07.599 Reddick? I don't think much of them? Why not before he ever got 45 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:13.400 Lincolage livelfore that's a that's a that's a. But again, it really doesn't 46 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.879 matter. You're right, I really doesn't matter whoever they take. You're gonna 47 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:20.360 take one of Lebron's buddies, which will probably be JJ Reddick, and he'll 48 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:25.080 shepherd the team to Lebron's last two seasons. Lebron to retire just like Byron 49 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:30.319 Scott shepherd of the team to Kobe's last few seasons. Kobe retired, Byron 50 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:34.719 got fired. This guy's gonna get fired in two years anyway. So he 51 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.159 just never really doesn't matter. Oh wow, just to paint that picture like 52 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:40.639 as bleak as you can, Bill Plaski, So you don't think, you 53 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:46.479 don't think that they could find a way to work a trade or get another 54 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:51.639 to say a Donovan Mitchell, that they could bring him in and and and 55 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:57.199 win a title. Donavan Mitchell's game will be restrained when he plays next to 56 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:00.560 Lebron, like everybody's game is restrained. Mitchell will have to give up the 57 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:04.960 ball, to give up space. It's not his game, and he won't. 58 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:09.199 He doesn't fit it takes. That's the hard the harder to play with 59 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:12.479 Lebron. And you can pay off the ball, he can play off the 60 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.879 ball. Bill, he can shoot, and he can create his own shot. 61 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.279 He just he's the space, he's just his touches. He won't get 62 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:21.839 that with Lebron. So I don't see I don't see anybody that can bring 63 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:24.759 in there that's gonna help it. At this point, I just don't see 64 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.920 it. I see it. I think y'uring for a long, slow, 65 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:34.800 dreary whole. Now, maybe if they traded a D and Lebron left burn 66 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:39.519 to the ground, starting to scratch and leaves to be interesting. But I'm 67 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:43.120 I'm not all all interested right now. It's it's it's a boring future for 68 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:46.240 them. See, I agree with you, but here's the problem. And 69 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.439 Rodney pointed it out, and Adam pointed it out earlier on the show, 70 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:53.759 and I have to agree. Uh, let's say you go from the building 71 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.560 again, start from the beginning. They're gonna be awful. How long are 72 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.680 people gonna sit through that? Yeah? I think they would. I think 73 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:03.639 people are so tired of it right now though. But no, you're right. 74 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:08.720 That's what and that's what's guiding him everybody in Princeville is that Laker fans 75 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:12.439 want to compete every year. They want to be completely entertained every year, 76 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:16.000 and they and they like the legacy of Lebron and Lebron to retire Laker. 77 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:20.000 I would let Lebron that of his contract, and if you got to ask 78 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:24.360 for a multi deal, I let him walk. I'd call his bluff. 79 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:29.560 But they won't. They'll give him multi deal and they'll probably draft Brian they'll 80 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:35.279 probably to draft Bronni which is even which is even more insane. I can't 81 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:40.439 I can't sign off on that one either. I gotta be honest with you. 82 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:43.040 I know you sound like the guys that come on after us just hate 83 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:46.160 the stars in this town, you guys, Well wait a minute. I 84 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.639 love the stars. I love the stars, but Lebron is houlding them back. 85 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:53.160 Roy, do you know Lebron hold him back? You know he's holding 86 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:57.839 him back. All I know is that he uh whatever he says, I'm 87 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:00.839 gonna bring you a title. He brought a title to him team he's played 88 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:05.199 for, every team he's played for, Run them a title. What more 89 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:09.839 do you want? I mean, the guy, the guy would Adam pointed 90 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:13.759 this out as well. Do you remember the Lakers before Lebron came, you 91 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:15.920 know, when they were winning twenty to twenty five games a season? Remember 92 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:21.040 that? Remember that stretch? Remember that stretch you had? Yeah? Yeah, 93 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:27.600 Well soon we forget. Wherever he goes, he brings a title with 94 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:32.000 him. He won a title an abbreviated year in a bubble season. Don't 95 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:35.680 want to hear it. Don't want to hear it. And let's go to 96 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:40.680 the night seasons of eighty seven. Let's go all the way back and talk 97 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.839 about Oh yeah, we can't have that one because that was there was conflicts 98 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:48.040 with steroids that season. Oh man, the greatest player ever. I believe 99 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:51.240 he's a great I believe he's better than Jordan's the best player in history. 100 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:56.120 Why now, hold on, now, Bill, hold on, now over 101 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:01.759 Now you've overstaid. He just doesn't. Hey, hey, Plasky, you 102 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:05.240 stop it right there. I get you, Okay, you know this and 103 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:10.360 that and I'm Lebron. Don't you dare talk about him being better than Jordan? 104 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:14.000 How dare you you know it? Not knowing Rodney, Look at the 105 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.959 numbers, Look at the seasons, look at the titles, numbers, numbers. 106 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.959 I can make the numbers. Look anyway I want to do. This 107 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.240 is such an old argument. Don' get start on this argument. Such a 108 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.839 tired argument. No, it is a tired argument. Because you're wrong, 109 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:30.439 Bill, you're wrong. Jordan one with one coaching, one system, Lebron 110 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:32.879 one with three coaches, stree different systems. Lebron' score more points, more 111 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:38.120 sists, more rebounds played, longer done, more Lebron's de gress. Never 112 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:41.959 see, I knew I could get Plasky to start liking Lebron. I know 113 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:46.399 it, but he doesn't. He doesn't Lakers doesn't fit the Laker. Hey, 114 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:48.279 hey, Jordan's the best of all time, plasking you know what. 115 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:53.439 I know what. Everybody knows it. I don't know why people keeps starting 116 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:58.240 no disgrace or no nothing against Lebron because he is. He is the second 117 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:03.399 best, but a different level, right, settle dis argument Jordan on a 118 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:07.920 different level. Yeah, I think Lebron and honestly I love Michael Jordan. 119 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.279 But if you look at everything, Lebron's a guy. Just what are you 120 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:16.319 talking about? Everything? Six straight titles? No, he's different teams, 121 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:22.600 three different You can't go backwards on your initial argument where he said he's brought 122 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:26.160 the titles every team he's ever been in. He didn't make it better than 123 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:28.480 Jordan. Don't that don't make it better than Jordan. I think he's better. 124 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.439 I do. Bill. I agree with you, But let me ask 125 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:33.840 you this, Bill, would you give Lebron a statue outside the crypt? 126 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.120 That's a great question. Now you know who George the next statue? Right, 127 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:45.440 Jerry? Doctor Buss? Need a statue of doctor Bus out there? 128 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:56.480 Yes? Yeah, Girlfriends he needs a statute and after I don't think, 129 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:58.480 I don't know if I do Lebron. I don't feel like he's I don't 130 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:03.840 feel like he's a Laker. I agree, But Lakers have statuds out there 131 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:11.360 now, Green Magic, Shack, Kobe, that's it. That's the chick 132 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:15.240 Hern chick Hern, Jerry West and that went out there. Huh what about 133 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:18.840 him? Yeah? He does? Does he? Jerry West got one? 134 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:22.840 Yeah? Okay? Good? How about former Laker guard Oscar de la Hoya. 135 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:28.159 He has one? Yeahevable because he fought into e g and brought into 136 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:33.559 the the arena. That's unbelievable. Fact when when Alton dela hoy one was 137 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.759 unveiled, I wrote it the fad sculptures looked nothn't like him, and the 138 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:41.799 guy who get in the sculpture emailed me for a year. Didn't been criticized 139 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:46.279 as full life. He was sitting there at a pottery barn and he and 140 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.840 he he for a year try and track me down who for freshing him? 141 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:56.639 Did he really? Yeah? He was, he was really mad at me. 142 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:05.039 Sculpture another All right, Bill, Bill, would you retire Lebron's jersey? 143 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:11.679 Is a Laker no, I would, I would. I just don't 144 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:16.639 feel like he's he's not one of them. He's not he's not Cooper. 145 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.799 He's not worthy. He's not he's not worthy quite suspiratively and literally, he's 146 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.799 just not. I just know I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. 147 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:28.200 And but but I got guaranteed it's gonna do it, of course, 148 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:31.399 and they're gonna keep him around for the want to retire as a Lakers, 149 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:37.480 right. They'll probably give a nine year deal now too. Hey, Bill, 150 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.039 Bill, get off that terrible argument that you guys can't win when it 151 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:45.679 comes to Jordan and Lebron. Okay, let's move on. Hey, I 152 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:50.399 asked bred this question about the Dodgers. Bill, what what's the Dodgers identity 153 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:56.279 right now? I'm not sure, but you guys have heard earlier today you 154 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:00.080 made a great point. Something's wrong with Freddy Freeman. Something's going on in 155 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:05.279 there. He's not the same and that that really hurts him. I wonder 156 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:07.840 if he if he felt like he was this this was his team and it 157 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.120 was taken from him my show hate I mean, it's weird, but he 158 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:16.000 was I don't hear the pretty you hear the Freddy chance at very much anymore. 159 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.440 And I hear the Freddy chances seem like he smiles as much either. 160 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.120 And he had great smile and everybody loved talking to him at first base, 161 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:28.679 you know, and just cheesing and laughing and having a good time. It 162 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:33.000 doesn't look like he's having as much fun, no, and that, and 163 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.639 that hurts him. And I think the bottom of the order hurts him a 164 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:41.399 little bit. And I think the starting fishing is still it's been good, 165 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.039 but a lot of youth and a lot of injury from guys there. I'd 166 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.320 say we you know, the litter wins division. They've already clinched the West 167 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:54.000 Division or probably it seems like so going to the playoffs, I'm not gonna 168 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.279 push your patty button yet. I think you have time to established identity. 169 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:01.279 I think it's gonna be great with leaf pishing and great top of the order 170 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.720 hitting, and that's what's gonna win it for him. And I think that 171 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:09.200 I think they have both. I shouldn't did a winning World Series. I 172 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:15.840 said they didn't win a championship, but it's it's important not to push the 173 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.879 panting bunt because this team is so good and I'm sure sometimes they get bored. 174 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:24.000 And last night they're coming off of a series of San Francisco where it 175 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.120 always takes the emotion out of them. They're always drained to they play the 176 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:31.399 Giants, so last night was non surprise. Why why would they be bored 177 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.000 playing the Giants. I mean it was like a home game for the Dodgers. 178 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:39.480 Well a lot of them of those games and they get drained. They 179 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:45.120 get drained playing the Giants. They always the twenty twenty one they played at 180 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:48.399 Giants and they wipe them out to the Braves. So I just don't I 181 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:52.960 don't think they have an identity yet. And I'd like for Freddy Freeman to 182 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.600 be part of that now. They he need for him to be part of 183 00:12:54.600 --> 00:13:01.639 that. I think that's the big thing that's visiting right now. Are you 184 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.960 all listening to me? No, we're listening. Yeah. I thought you're 185 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:09.399 gonna continue, Bill. I don't want to cut you off. I don't 186 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.000 want. I don't want, you know. I thought you were gonna make 187 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:15.240 some grandiose statement and then you're gonna start yelling at me for cutting you off. 188 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:18.000 All right, you do an email when I'm talking to you, guys, 189 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:24.000 all right, I do want to ask you. I stop right right, 190 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:31.200 I'm right, hey, heyasky spot on, all right, I do 191 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:35.840 want to ask you about this. You're you have had this affinity for now 192 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.120 is it more so for the w n b A and the Sparks given Caitlin 193 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.720 Clark's appearance in the league. I love w b A. I love this 194 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.159 Spark. I wish they were better. I think you know me better. 195 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:50.519 It is Cameron Briks gonna be a hell hell of a player. She's really 196 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:54.080 good, and Rakia Jackson's gonna be good. The Sparks gonna be good and 197 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.879 I'm it's gonna be huge next Friday night at Crypto when Kaitlyn Clark comes in. 198 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.600 But we all watch kating so far this year? Yeah, yeah, 199 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:07.279 what do you think? Yeah? And I And first of all, I 200 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:11.600 think that it's twofold. I think that that you know, obviously, she's 201 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:16.519 finding out that college is much different than the pros. Uh and and everybody's 202 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:20.759 pretty good and in the pros and she's not going up against you know, 203 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:28.080 eighteen nineteen year old you know, girls from Central Idaho. So it's it's 204 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:31.840 a different game. It's a different game, and she's got a target on 205 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:35.000 her back. So the thing she got away with at IOWA, she's not 206 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:37.120 gonna get away with in the w NBA, And she's getting that wake up 207 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:41.799 call right now. The question is can she come out of that and be 208 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:46.159 this player that everybody thinks that she was gonna be when she first entered the 209 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.360 league. Do you think that where she's gonna be? Is she gonna be 210 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:56.840 a ordinary you know, just another player because Brianna Stewart is special, it's 211 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:01.919 special. She was unbelievable yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. I think she's getting 212 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:03.480 down muscled a lot, and I feel bad for her. All the pressure 213 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:09.120 on this kid, and the kid didn't have it all seasons in the IOWA, 214 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.519 the fever. I feel bad for her, but I think she's overwhelmed, 215 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:18.080 and I worry that she's not big enough. I think women's basketball needs 216 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:20.039 her to be great, and I don't know if that's gonna happen. I 217 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:24.960 think it's curious. I think there's an adjustment period for her. I think 218 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:31.879 she absolutely had an impact to transcend and bring people that aren't really interested in 219 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.919 the women's game into watch and when that happened, for how long though? 220 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:39.159 Okay, well that's here and here's the thing, and you tell me, 221 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:43.000 all right, let's say she struggles. That doesn't mean people are still not 222 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:48.080 becoming exposed to the game. And maybe in that way Bill they start to 223 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:52.399 like it more. I think, yes, I think you'll get some college 224 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:54.639 fans starting to watch the ob A. But I worry that it's going to 225 00:15:54.720 --> 00:16:00.279 go back to the previously levels. We'll soon have these sponsorships. See what 226 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:03.399 happens with TV rights. We'll see what happens with the big money. If 227 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:06.679 the big money follows the sports, and that's good. So far it happens, 228 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.840 so we'll see. I mean, I'm concerned that this is more like 229 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:14.000 Kaitlan Clark thing, the w n b A things. I'm concerned that people 230 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.960 who are following them because of hers, not because they're anybody else. I 231 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.639 feel like it's going to fall off. I think she went to the to 232 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:26.519 the worst team possible for her to go to the terrible Oh there's such a 233 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:30.759 terrible team. And the Las Vegas Acis are so fun to watch. The 234 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:36.600 New York Liberty is watch the great super teams are good, Blood are blast, 235 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:40.480 the players are great, they're great with the media. It's a great 236 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.120 league. I love I love the w n b A. But I don't 237 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:47.360 know if anybody a lot like I do. After Kayln Clark starts to keep 238 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:49.720 struggling, I think that's important. All right, Well, you know what, 239 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:52.799 she's got to go around one time. Everybody gets to see her once 240 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:57.879 and then we'll see what happens. Yeah, it's a good point out there 241 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:03.200 right night. Yeah, Fred, you're going out there Friday night. No, 242 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:08.319 I'm not going. Are you going running? I am not going. 243 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:12.559 That will be out uptown. Well, it's gonna be a great game. 244 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:15.839 I'm gonna miss you guys. I'll tell you all about it, all right. 245 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:19.319 Well, wait a minute, I'm sure we'll read all about it if 246 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:25.480 you're going Yeah, yeah, that's true. I ain't gonna be writing a 247 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:27.720 column by that night. That that is true. I think it'll be a 248 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:30.920 great event. It'll be sold down. Yeah. Well, and it's in 249 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:36.200 you know l A. I I I again, I'm I'm rooting for like 250 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:37.279 like a lot of people are. I know there are a lot of haters 251 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:41.039 out there that are rooting against her, but I am. I'm with you, 252 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.880 Bill. If she doesn't if she continues to struggle and struggles this year, 253 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.680 fred I don't I don't know if that's gonna I don't know if it's 254 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:52.480 gonna last. I think people are gonna fall off, and some of those 255 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:55.599 haters out there are gonna say, see, see, just like we said, 256 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:57.359 when she gets to the w n B, A is different than playing 257 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:02.559 in college and that entry level. Because if she doesn't dominate or she's not 258 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:10.640 spectacular, I think people are are gonna slowly stop watching. Unfortunately. Yeah, 259 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:12.960 I think so too. And I think it's because w A A doesn't 260 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.000 play above the room and how people don't like that, they don't appreciate. 261 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:19.400 John Wood loves loves w B. It was his very favorite sport with women's 262 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:22.400 basketball. If it's good for john Wood, it's good enough for me. 263 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:26.480 There you go, Rodney, put that in your pipe and smoke it. 264 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:33.039 Be quick, don't hurry about, be quick, don't hurry All right, 265 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:36.160 Bill, thank you very much for coming on today. This was quite insightful. 266 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:38.880 It wasn't Freda right now, Let's see what what what what Benja has 267 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:44.240 to say. Let's see if he well, you know, we're gonna hold 268 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.680 him to his first question. Bill. Let's see if he see if he's 269 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:51.119 got the you know what to ask him that as first, be quick, 270 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:52.640 but don't hurry ask that question, Bred, just to ask that question, 271 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:56.400 Uh, you know what, I'm gonna come out of the blocks with it, 272 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.000 all right, I'll see it all right, listening, take care? 273 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.279 All right, there goes our buddy Bill Plaque. Why is that such an 274 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:10.279 awful question to ask somebody? Seriously? Do you remember? It's not awful. 275 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:12.279 It's not awful, Fred, It's just you know, you the first 276 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:15.279 question out of the gate. He might be touching a nerve with the cat. 277 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:21.039 I don't know. All he wanted was chicken. Might be just touching 278 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:25.880 a nerve with him. He wanted the guy doing the documentary, he goes, 279 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:27.799 hey, can you take me for chicken? It's all he wanted. 280 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.319 It's all he wants. I'm sure it'll be fine too. Left shoes. 281 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:37.359 That's right, right out of the blocks. I'll phrase it properly. Don't 282 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:40.640 worry about it. I'll say. You know, our producer, sugarcoated Fred 283 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:44.680 noir, producer Kevin asked me to ask you this question. Oh of course 284 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:47.160 you would. And producer Kevin will jump on the air and say that is 285 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:49.519 absolutely a lie. I did not say that, right, and I'll say 286 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:56.920 that's absolutely correct. He did not say it. He was covering for Rodney. 287 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:00.440 Oh we laughed at that. That's exactly what you're gonna do too. 288 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.680 Yeah, of course, who cares? All right? Who Lets go to 289 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:10.880 the Dodgers and Reds tonight tonight? Come on eight six six nine seven two 290 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:15.359 five seventy one pair of tickets to give away for that game right now? 291 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:21.039 Eight six six nine eighty seven two five seventy. Rodney would call her number 292 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:23.519 you want, I like number eight for it, number eight. Don't be 293 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:27.039 late, get in here right now. Oh you know what. And if 294 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:32.000 you are late, whatever you do, don't drive over the median and drag 295 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:37.559 a police officer. That's gonna be a problem. We'll talk about it. 296 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:45.319 Come oh, we love it on a Friday for it, We just love 297 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.400 it. On. Come on now, let's keep it moving, come on, 298 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:51.960 all right. So you know, Scotty Scheffler, I think you could 299 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:55.240 make the argument he may be the best player in the game right now. 300 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:57.400 Oh he is. He's definitely the hottest player in the game right now. 301 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:06.559 Fundamentally, Son makes few mistakes, just sort of mechanical, robotic, just 302 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:11.400 gets it done, just makes a tough shot when he needs it, doesn't 303 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:18.000 really wilt with pressure. He's good. He's really good. You know, 304 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:22.279 I do watch golf on the weekend sometimes. And he is a guy. 305 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:25.240 Does he have the charisma of Tiger Woods? No, no, no, 306 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:27.640 no, no, ry mckall right, No, this is a guy that 307 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:30.839 shows up, does his job. And I'll tell you if you're a guy 308 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:34.400 like Scotti Scheffler, the most important thing for you is to be on time. 309 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:37.319 This is a guy that does not want to be late. Don't you 310 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:41.680 dare be late, under no circumstance be late. He's got a routine, 311 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:48.000 the routine works. He's focused, He's not going to be late. So 312 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:56.039 this morning he's driving to the PGA Championship in Kentucky and it's very early in 313 00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:59.359 the morning. But you know's a guy that wants to be there on time. 314 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.559 He will do what needs to be done. He will get there on 315 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:10.200 time. And as he's driving to the course of Valhalla, there's a long 316 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:15.799 line of cars. Something has happened. Emergency vehicles are out there. Well, 317 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:21.119 he doesn't know it at the time, but the reason traffic is stopped 318 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:26.039 and emergency vehicles are out there is because a car actually ran into somebody and 319 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:30.319 killed them. He doesn't know that at the time, but he does know 320 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.319 there's a long line of cars and this is going to be a problem and 321 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:38.119 he is absolutely going to be delayed. So he comes up with a plan 322 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:42.839 because he can't be delayed. He's got to get there. Well, it's 323 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:45.440 a routine, as you mentioned, fed. If you're you know, anybody 324 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:49.799 had played any kind of golf, you know that it is about routine and 325 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:55.079 it is about schedule, and you don't perform well if that is thrown off 326 00:22:55.119 --> 00:23:02.319 by any shape or any type of distraction, you don't play well. So 327 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:06.759 what he does He says, Look, I got a plan. I'm just 328 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:10.720 gonna drive up here on the median. I'm gonna cut around this line. 329 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:15.319 I'm gonna get to the course, and I'm gonna be ready to go. 330 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:21.279 Yeah. So he drives on the median and again he doesn't know what's happened. 331 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:23.880 No, he doesn't know, but he does know you probably shouldn't do 332 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:26.799 that. Well, it's really no harm, no foul. Really, I 333 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.640 mean, I'm just trying to go to some police. I'm trying to get 334 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:34.720 there on time, all right. Well, as he quickly learns he shouldn't 335 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:40.079 be doing that. As a matter of fact, he learns this because police 336 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:45.599 come up to him and give him to stop. Stop, why are you 337 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:49.839 driving up here? Stop? But he's got to get there, Rodney, 338 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:53.839 You've got to get there. As a matter of fact, the windows rolled 339 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:59.039 down to the car. I believe the police officer leans in or you know, 340 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:02.519 kind of puts his hands on the car and says, okay, you 341 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:07.160 know, hold on here. That's not going to stop Scotti Scheffler. He's 342 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:10.359 got to be where he's got to be. Of course, course, so 343 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:12.680 he continues to drive. No, he's not going one hundred and fifty miles 344 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:17.400 an hour, but the car is moving. The police officer is now holding 345 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:22.359 onto the car, and the car is moving. Okay, so that's probably 346 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:29.319 that's probably not a good recipe for success. You're holding onto the car, 347 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:33.799 the car is moving. Down goes the police officer down. He's down. 348 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:40.680 He suffered some scrapes he went down, but that didn't stop him either, 349 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:44.240 because I mean, this guy, he's got to get out to the range. 350 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:48.480 Well, they finally stopped him. When the police officer went down and 351 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:52.759 the car kept moving, they figured out a way to stop him. And 352 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:57.319 then they gave him one of these out of the car. Come with me, 353 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:00.400 sir. Yeah, you don't want to hear that. Out of the 354 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:06.720 car, Come with me, sir. And he went with them. He 355 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:12.319 went to jail. So he goes to jail, and he explains what happened. 356 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.720 And this is early in the morning, correct, Yeah, it's like 357 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:18.920 five thirty in the morning. This happened. Yeah, he goes to jail. 358 00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:23.519 He explains what happened, and it really you know, I can understand 359 00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:29.880 why you would be confused given what his explanation was. Well, I just 360 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:37.400 misunderstood what they were telling me. I misunderstood. I misunderstood stop, don't 361 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:41.319 drive on the median, you know what. Yeah, that just I don't 362 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:45.400 know what I thought I heard. I thought I heard that. I didn't 363 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.279 hear that. No, you know what I thought I heard, You're good, 364 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.200 keep going, hit the gas and get up there. That's what I 365 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:56.480 thought I heard. But I misunderstood. And what they said was stop and 366 00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:59.880 all of these other cars that are stopped, they don't know what they're doing. 367 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:03.279 Well, those cars aren't they're not driven by Scotty Schffler, who's got 368 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:07.440 to get there. Yeah, yeah, you know, I I drove past 369 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:11.119 him. I didn't see Rory McElroy in line, so I figured he was 370 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:15.640 already there. Yeah, Xander Schoffley, he's there. I gotta get there. 371 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:22.160 These other people aren't playing. They're coming to watch, but there's nobody 372 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:23.359 to watch if I don't get there, So I've got to get there. 373 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:30.359 So anyway, then they release them, they release them, and he goes 374 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.680 to play. So they they take him in. They took him, They 375 00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:41.440 took him in, you know, Miranda rights or did they did they did 376 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.279 he go behind bars for a minute or did he just get processed? Or 377 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:49.000 did did he go into a cell? There's a booking photo for Rodney absolutely, 378 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:53.319 so he was handcuffed and taken in. Yes, yeah, okay, 379 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:59.920 okay, so he got booked. Book them, Dane got booked. Well 380 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.480 when they when they took the picture, don't they always tell you? And 381 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.519 I have not had one of these pictures taken, so I don't know. 382 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.720 Come on, Fred, come on, but no I haven't. But don't 383 00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:15.480 they always tell you, Detroit, come on, you respect us to believe 384 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.960 that, Hey, I was loving. Tell me something I can believe, 385 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.759 Fred, I did my business low on the low. Don't they always tell 386 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.400 you to start the right, turn to the left. You never did that, 387 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.440 Fred, Come on, no fingerprinted Fred. No, But oh my 388 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.640 god, you want to hear the story of the lineup. I knew there 389 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.400 was one. I knew there was one. He knew it was coming. 390 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.119 You want to hear the story, all right? So growing up in Detroit, 391 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:47.200 my parents owned a drug store, Carl Family Drugs, and everybody loved 392 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.720 my parents. And one night, coming out of the store, and by 393 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:53.440 the way, they had a liquor license, so you get your medicine like 394 00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:59.400 a little shopping store. Long ago you could buy one stop shop. One 395 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.920 stop shop. Yeah, yeah, get medicine by the cigarettes. Coming back 396 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:04.480 in the day. So my parents own the store. They come out of 397 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.519 the store, they close at like ten o'clock one night and they get jumped, 398 00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:14.559 Well my father does, and he breaks his shoulder. Now they don't 399 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:19.519 get anything, but they jumped them. And that's why my parents they were 400 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:25.440 locking up, okay, And that's why my parents decided that's only they could. 401 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.200 They would keep a hammer and a screwdriver behind the counter, and if 402 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:32.640 anybody came back in for that, they were going to get it. And 403 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:36.440 I said, really, and I was like a little kid. So I 404 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:41.200 wasn't even ten years old, maybe I was five or six. So now 405 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.480 they've arrested people. They've arrested people, right, and you have to go 406 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:51.440 to the lineup. I said, I will go to the lineup. I 407 00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:53.880 will go with you to the lineup. And my father had his arm, 408 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:57.839 I mean a huge cast. His arm was elevated over his head. He 409 00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:03.079 really got screwed up. He's fine, had one of those things where it's 410 00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.359 depended and it's straight and the and the like the it had like a like 411 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:11.519 a like a kickstand. Yes, that's what he had. Wow, Okay, 412 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.079 so it was messed up. So anyway, we go to the lineup 413 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.720 and I'm a little kid. And the way they did it is they put 414 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.160 these people on a stage, right kind of a stage, and they asked 415 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:29.559 you to stand in the back because they really didn't want the people to see 416 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.119 you looking at them. And I guess in those days, it wasn't behind 417 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.200 you. It wasn't the twa back then. It wasn't that way back then. 418 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.119 Back then, it was like they bring them up and you're in the 419 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:47.359 room, but you're staying pardon me, and they see you. Well, 420 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.960 see this is the issue. So you're in the dark. You're in the 421 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.200 dark, so they can't really see you, but you can see them because 422 00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.759 it's like playing at Crypto dot Com Arena with the Lakers. The court is 423 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:04.200 lit, but everybody else that watching is in the dark. So I'm standing 424 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:08.000 there that people walk out. My parents are there, the police are there. 425 00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:11.480 I don't really know what's going on, but I know that we're there 426 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:15.960 for a reason and somebody did something wrong. So as no one is watching, 427 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:23.000 I swear this happened. I walk right up. I walk right up 428 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:27.680 to where the lineup is, to where the stage is. Now they don't 429 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:32.400 see me go up there because they're all talking to each other. I walk 430 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:37.880 right up. The people on the stage can now see me, and I 431 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.799 look at that, and you're how old right now? Five? Six? 432 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.400 Okay, okay, right? I look up at them, and now I 433 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:52.480 realize we have to identify someone that I understand. I walk up there, 434 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.400 don't you say it. I look at the people and I turn around and 435 00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:03.640 I go, he did it. He did it? And my parents go, 436 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:10.400 what the hell? Get back here, and I went back. I 437 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.039 swear to god, I did it, And they said what are you doing 438 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.680 Why would you do that? Why did you go up to the stage and 439 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:22.519 yell he did it? Because he looks like he did. He looks like 440 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:29.920 he did. I was out of there. They took me out. I 441 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.480 did that? Wait wait, so did you identify was it the right guy? 442 00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.559 No? I don't know who wasn't he was just you said, because 443 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.039 he looked like he did it. That's the only reason. Because when I 444 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.039 walked up there, they all looked at me, and this guy had to 445 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:48.599 look like, oh that was just looked to me like, oh, your 446 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:53.720 parents must have been oh now see what happened to you after that, because 447 00:31:55.119 --> 00:32:00.440 my mom would have grabbed my dad's belt and took me right there, not 448 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:06.400 even take me outside or anywhere private, right there, pulled my pants down 449 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.359 and whoop the you know what out of make and at a heartbeat, boy 450 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:16.200 are you crazy? Get over here? Wow, wop wop wop, wop 451 00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:22.440 wop wop. And that could have been the plate for me, except my 452 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:28.160 father's arm was broken, and then this giant sling the kicker would have been. 453 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:29.559 She would have been like, you want to end up like them? 454 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:37.200 Keep that way, just like them right there? Exactly? Oh yeah, 455 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:42.920 I did do that. Wow, Fred you man, Wow wow you were 456 00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.599 you were I don't even know the other way to put you were an idiot 457 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:52.119 at five? Yeah? Oh yeah, white sugar quoted why even sugarcoated? 458 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:57.559 O my god. Okay, so that was a nice interlude. So finish 459 00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.359 the Scottie Scheffer's store. Oh I forgot that. Oh no. Anyway, 460 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:05.759 anyway, the thing is, don't they tell you when you get photographed there, 461 00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.440 you're supposed to smile real big you should smile. Remember Tom Lebonge, 462 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:17.039 the city councilman. He was arrested for some stupid thing and they showed his 463 00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:22.319 booking photo and he was like the happiest guy in the world. IM telling 464 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.119 you to smile. Huh. I don't remember them telling you to smile. 465 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.759 Well, no, I think people know you keep a straight face. Tell 466 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:37.039 you they some people choose to smile. That's what I'm saying. That's what 467 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.000 I meant, Kevin. Some people choose to smile, right. No, 468 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:43.920 they don't want you to. But if that's your picture, that's your picture. 469 00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:50.400 Yeah, And I've seen people do that. They just smile because they 470 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:57.720 don't ever want that picture of them sullen, emotionless to be shown. So 471 00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:02.119 they just smile. Listen. I'm not suggesting anything if you get booked. 472 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:07.400 I'm just saying some people do that. Tomson. All right, and you've 473 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.639 we've been in that situation. Pardon me, you've never been in that situation? 474 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.360 What you're saying? No, you've told us no, No, I 475 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.639 don't know anything about it quite. I know Rodney set to put a bowl 476 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:21.679 on Scheffler. By the way, he was released. He didn't return to 477 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:23.760 the US Open and he is competing. So there you go. Okay, 478 00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:27.679 so enough time to get a practice, couple of balls in yep, hit 479 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.559 the driving range and got back out there. All right, are we ready 480 00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:40.800 for the Interview of the year, because but nooy, Benjamin is next hold 481 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.760 a very special place in LA sports history. The man, the myth, 482 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.320 the legend will join us after the break. Oh yeah, here we go. 483 00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:54.599 Let's go, let's go, let's go Rodney Pete fred Rogan on a 484 00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:59.400 Friday, and you know Fridays we say we don't care. Right well, 485 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:04.880 Freddy take it away, all right. We were looking forward to this for 486 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.199 some time. Drafted third overall by the Clippers of nineteen eighty five, played 487 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:15.760 for nine NBA teams famously wore the number double zero. If you have lived 488 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:22.239 in Los Angeles or have followed the Clippers for any years, you remember the 489 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.840 name Beanoit. Benjamin and Banoit, the subject of a new documentary, joins 490 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.719 us. Now, so Beanoit. How are you good day? How you 491 00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:37.920 doing? I'm fine? How'd you guys doing? Wait? You're supposed to 492 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:39.320 wait for us to ask you how you doing before you say you're fine? 493 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.159 Okay, okay, right, how you doing? You act me how I 494 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:47.920 was doing? How you doing? Right? Man? Oh? Good, 495 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.320 good, good good? Thanks for joining us? Man, Thanks all right, 496 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:55.480 But I have a question that I want to start with. Okay, 497 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.679 yes, all right, during your days with the CLIP, I believe there 498 00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:07.800 was an exhibition game in Sacramento. Uh yeah, okay, now all right 499 00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:15.719 did you were you unable to play in that game because mistakenly you actually packed 500 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.480 two left shoes and could not play in the game. Is that true? 501 00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:30.719 Yes, that is true, Yeah, the two left shoes. But NOI 502 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.679 okay, Freddie, okay, proud of you. Fred. A lot of 503 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.159 debate whether or not he was gonna ask you that question, but no, 504 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.519 it so now that he did ask you the question, but no it. 505 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.440 First off, it's you know what happens, right, it happens. You 506 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:51.000 know, you're you're rushing, you're packing, you know, you mistakenly take 507 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:55.400 two left shoes instead of the right and the left. But that wasn't how 508 00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:59.960 it had Okay, good, I knew there was some more to the story. 509 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.920 Go ahead, go ahead, I know there's more to the store. 510 00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:07.000 I was running late and at the time we was flying commercial and I had 511 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.079 left my sneakers. I had a bunch of sneakers in the in the trunk 512 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:15.199 of my car. So I just reached in there and grabbed two shoes. 513 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:16.679 And then when I got there, it just happened to be that there were 514 00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:21.679 two left shoes for me, just not looking, just grabbing shoes out of 515 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.360 my trunk. So that's that's the that's the truth about that story. So 516 00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:30.719 I didn't pack them. I just grabbed two shoes out of my trunk and 517 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.239 they just so happened to be two left shoes, two left shoes. Okay, 518 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.480 So you yes again, you said you know this is the time when 519 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.719 you're playing for the Clippers, correct, yes, yeah, so flying commercial, 520 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.159 it wasn't in shac of Mio. It was in Bakersfield, California, 521 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:50.280 that bield. Yeah, it was in Bakersfield, Okay, flying commercial with 522 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:54.840 the Clippers at the time, and you could not play in the game or 523 00:37:54.880 --> 00:38:00.079 did you find other shoes that allowed you to play during that game? I 524 00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:06.159 well, I was there. I was there at a time, you know, 525 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:10.000 in the league where we did where the trainers didn't carry extra shoes for 526 00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:15.360 my size, so I didn't have any shoes. And of course it wasn't 527 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.800 nobody gonna give me no shoes. So you know, my foot was the 528 00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:24.440 sixteen to seventeen. I didn't have any shoes to wear. So the organization 529 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:28.639 made it made a choice for me not to play because they might have ruined 530 00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:30.800 my feet enough. I would have tried to pay for two. I don't 531 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.159 know how I could have did that, no way, you know what I 532 00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:39.199 mean? Yeah, because okay, this curve, Yeah, go ahead, 533 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:44.000 I said, I say, the foot the left and right. The left 534 00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.639 and right feet are structure different, you know, with the curves and the 535 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:53.679 and the way the foot turns, so I couldn't. I couldn't effectively, 536 00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:59.079 you know, do anything sports wise with two left shoes on right, not 537 00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:01.920 to try to put on that right foot so they decided that that they just 538 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:08.639 give me a D N T C D you do not play coaches decision, 539 00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:14.599 right yeah, wow wow, that's actually documented in the book that way. 540 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:17.920 Oh yeah, absolutely so. So so you get on the plane. What 541 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:25.800 were you wearing on the plane to Bakersfield? Probably was this casual? Probably 542 00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:29.639 was this well, because you where is it? I don't think it was 543 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:31.800 a shoe shue maybe, you know, but back then we didn't have a 544 00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:36.920 dress code. I probably had on some shirts and some shoes and some slacks 545 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.360 coming like that. You know, we did have to no, no, 546 00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:45.800 no chance or option of wearing what you wore on the plane on the court. 547 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:52.440 No, not at all, no, sir. Right. The great 548 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.360 Benjamin Clipper legend is whether it's on the show. But when you look back 549 00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:02.719 at your time with the Clippers, how would you on that up? What 550 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:09.599 challenging and interesting? Well, you know, I came in the league. 551 00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:14.599 You know, I had to catch like Ceddrick Maxwell and Norman Nixon jeans. 552 00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:16.800 But I had a bunch of old heads on the team. Marcus Johnson, 553 00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:22.719 you know, Franklin Edwards. You know, they had been around the league 554 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:24.559 for a while. So I came in. You know, bright eyes and 555 00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:30.000 bushetaire, you know, thinking that that playing professional sports was just a game, 556 00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.920 when they really they really pounded me about being a professional, you know, 557 00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:37.719 and you know, you had to be on time. You can't take 558 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.960 nothing for granted. Got work on your body, got work on your skills, 559 00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.079 you know, so on and so forth. But I had a u 560 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:51.159 I had since Kareem my dude, Jabaw was my idol. I had he. 561 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.159 He he was. He was on me harder than than than than than 562 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:59.719 than than average, because he, I guess I had to represent the big 563 00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:04.719 men he was being in LA and he did offer me some advice that stuck 564 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.119 with me throughout my career. I ended up playing seventeen years. But he 565 00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:10.320 told me, he said, young fella, I'm gonna tell you one thing. 566 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.079 The name of the game ain't being in the league. The name of 567 00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:19.119 the game is staying in the league. So he did take some time out 568 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.159 with me and teach me how to stretch and you know, take care of 569 00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.960 my my my leigaments and colleges and keep them strong and keep my body flexible, 570 00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:32.239 which you know I didn't. I never was injured. I played my 571 00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.159 time, you know, through injury. Tree I never had any surgeries or 572 00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:38.480 anything, you know, as long as I played. And uh, you 573 00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:44.000 know that's a tribute to Kareem because he really spent some time with me and 574 00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:49.320 showed me what I need to do to have a long active career in the 575 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:53.440 league. So you know that one of the bright spots you know about being 576 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:59.760 in Los Angeles and uh, you know, I said, well, because 577 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.440 they were only so hard when I first came in there, you know, 578 00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:07.119 all this promise on and so forth, But I didn't have the talent. 579 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.719 I didn't have the talent to compete, you know, uh uh decently, 580 00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:15.280 not at first, you know when I when I first started playing with the 581 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:20.960 Cripps. But you know I did my best. No, of course you 582 00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:23.519 did. And let's be honest. I mean, you did play for nine 583 00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:28.159 teams. You had a very good career. But what the Clippers. Oh 584 00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.360 yeah, uh, you know, there was a lot and you just admitted 585 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:37.480 maybe you weren't really ready for that role. That's right. So you get 586 00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:39.880 drafted by the Clippers, they come here, you have to be ready for 587 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.880 the role. You have to be ready for it. Here They're gonna throw 588 00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:46.320 here at the five period, that's right. And that's kind of what happened. 589 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:50.639 But you kind of got thrown in the fire. And and it is 590 00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.760 if we look back, the Clippers weren't very good, right, I mean 591 00:42:54.679 --> 00:43:00.920 no, no, we weren't. We were we weren't. No work at 592 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.719 a lot of people back then said, well, you were the number one 593 00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:06.039 pick, you were the big man. You were going to turn it around. 594 00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:09.519 But noyon that one's on you. Did you ever feel like people were 595 00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:15.599 saying it? Well, well, I mean it's just certain things that come 596 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:19.360 along with the turf, you know, being the number one pick, third 597 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.280 player pick, you know, it's a lot of expectations, and you know, 598 00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:25.199 you have to live up. You have to live up to the expectations. 599 00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:29.599 And if you don't, being in a city like Los Angeles is they're 600 00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.800 gonna ease your live And uh, I came to the concluiser early. Well, 601 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:35.639 I don't want to read the papers, I don't want to listen to 602 00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:37.920 the news or whatever. I'm just gonna go and try to do what I 603 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:42.320 can do and uh and be the best that I could be. So, 604 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.639 you know, a lot of distractions, you know, a lot of different 605 00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:51.000 elements came into the l a thing. But you know, I lasted and 606 00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:58.760 l A l A l A l A the LA media. They made me 607 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.440 strong, strong emotionally, you know, to where I'll figure with hell. 608 00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.320 If I can deal with LA media head, I can deal with any any 609 00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:08.519 any other kind of media, you know, period, You know what I 610 00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:15.440 mean. So it was all either make me break me and and I steward 611 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.800 surf. So you know I was. I was okay, absolutely, absolutely 612 00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:27.480 and eeriously to play that long. It is it is a success man. 613 00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.199 And uh, because there's a lot of people out there that that that play 614 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:35.119 and on the old man one year in and they're one and done or two 615 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.960 years in and they you know, nobody hearing from them again. But you 616 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.599 were able to play and have a long, long career. What were some 617 00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:45.159 of your fondest memory of playing? But NOI give me some memories that you 618 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:50.199 remember that that that stand out to you as you look back on your career. 619 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:55.239 Well, well, I shot playing against Jordan, and uh, of 620 00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:59.320 course we knew that we were gonna have fel as being and I wanted to 621 00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:02.400 make sure I was that my a game and I just can't I can remember 622 00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:07.320 just just allowing him to steals in the sports arena so he could rock the 623 00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:16.320 crowd. You know, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait man, you 624 00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:23.760 said you you allowed Jordan to have two steals he can rocked the crowd. 625 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:28.559 I threw that. I threw the ball right right in it, right right 626 00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:31.239 in the lane, so that he could get it. So then so he 627 00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:35.320 could rock the towd. But you know I was I don't know what I 628 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.960 was thinking, but the hell I wanted to see what he's gonna do myself. 629 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.239 You know, he was such a such an icon, and you know 630 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.000 he could fly and all this old stuff. So hell, I want to 631 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:49.039 see what he can do myself. You know. It was it was Jordan. 632 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.639 It was Jordan. You want to see him. He didn't disappointment. 633 00:45:53.280 --> 00:46:00.760 He didn't disappoint at all. No, right, yeah, and then another 634 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:07.480 else more memories that I remember how me and me and a logah one used 635 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.280 to go at it, you know, basally I remember those games as well, 636 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.800 you know, and and you know we really we had some wars men 637 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:23.119 hakm and uh. I remember you know back then we was rally on we 638 00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:28.880 was rally on national TV. So when we was on National TV, I 639 00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:31.599 was gonna make sure that the people could see you know what I could do. 640 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:36.280 So I always had games on nas I always had good games on national 641 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:39.480 TV. Uh like like like like when the pressent was really really there, 642 00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:44.440 I would perform. You know, some people would say how he performs you 643 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.400 know sometime and so on and so forth. But you know when the when 644 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:52.079 the bright lights came on, I was ready. You know I was ready. 645 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.599 So so remember that, you know what was the issue? Then if 646 00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.440 you think about it, when the bright lights came on, you were ready. 647 00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:01.679 But for the majority of time with the Clippers, the lights weren't bright 648 00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:07.880 enough. I mean, would that be yeah, well yeah, yeah, 649 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:12.519 that could be fair to stay. But I still I still had the tattoo 650 00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:17.480 to adhead to a degrill professional lism, you know. But the writers wanted 651 00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:21.119 to make say, okay, well we know he's gonna play tonight because then 652 00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:24.000 on nasal TV or he got somebody repletible that he's playing against, so we 653 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.719 know he don't want to be embarrassed, which I really did want to be 654 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:31.039 embarrassed. But but you know, uh, today's game is different from the 655 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.400 game when we play, you know what I mean. Hell, they these 656 00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:39.039 these little little these little touch files and all that we almost killed each other 657 00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:43.280 when we was playing. You know. Hell, I'm still hurting now for 658 00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:46.840 some of them licks he and did. I was known as a banger anyway, 659 00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:50.920 so I would I would bang your body, you know, But I 660 00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.079 ain't no thirty forty years date up the road, I was gonna be getting 661 00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:57.199 it back to where hell I can get to bed. I'd be I oh 662 00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:01.079 E. I told my mother, they damn almost found older you you know. 663 00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:06.719 So you know the league, the League took its toe. It took 664 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.480 its toe. You know, it took if it did take its toe. 665 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:13.400 But I'm fine. That's good, all right, You're fine now. Benoy 666 00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:16.960 the Greatnoy, Benjamin Clipper Legend is our guest. Let me ask you this. 667 00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.679 Since you left basketball, how is your wife? Then? What have 668 00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:30.559 you been doing well? I was doing home here, boy. My grandmother 669 00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:36.400 was When I retired, I came back to Monroe and we have a family 670 00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:40.320 owned business here, Supreme Home Health. And uh. I worked up at 671 00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:45.960 Supreme Home Health for about twenty something years before my grandmother passed, and then 672 00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:49.880 once she passed, it was tough for me going up in there without her. 673 00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:54.800 So I've just been kind of doing different things since I retired like, 674 00:48:55.079 --> 00:49:00.199 uh, I'm a general contractor now now vision Contact a couple of years ago. 675 00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.360 Had to get that thirst, had to get that thirst back for you 676 00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.679 know, uh being in corporate America so on and so forth. And it 677 00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:13.159 actually enjoyed, enjoyed getting back out there working, you know, doing some 678 00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:17.159 things after after you know, sitting around for some time. Uh, you 679 00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.280 know it. It was very pleasure pleasurable for me to get back you know 680 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.719 in the in the active corporate world. So so that was good. But 681 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.800 I worked. I worked for our family owned business, you know, the 682 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:36.840 home held business. I did uh de coding and building for Medicaid, mad 683 00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:38.280 Cat so on and so forth. And you know, that was that was 684 00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:44.000 good for me. So that was the thing that I that I really that 685 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.559 that I really you know, stood with till my grandmother passed and then I 686 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:52.760 guess I going on hiatus. Yeah. But so now you know you've got 687 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:58.400 a documentary, I understand, right, So what made you what you decide 688 00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:04.159 to do a documentary? Well, they wanted to know about what I was 689 00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.639 doing, so you know, I said, they called me and said, 690 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:09.039 well we like to do it. They fan no problem, you know, 691 00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:12.199 he said, you know what you want me to do? And uh, 692 00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:14.840 I think, well, I say, well, goddamn, this is about 693 00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:16.480 time. And somebody gave me some credit for some of the stuff that I 694 00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:22.280 did. Yeah. Hell, hell, I know I was a bad I 695 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.440 know I was considered a bad boy. And you know, LA turned l 696 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:29.079 a upside down. Hell you know, rightne you with the U s C. 697 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:32.639 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well but La is a hell of a 698 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.880 city, man, you know. I mean, you know, it'll suck 699 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.960 you up and said, spit you out to street times over. But I 700 00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:45.239 lasted in that city. I lasted, and uh, you know it was 701 00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:47.239 a good thing about you know, being in l A playing for the Clippers 702 00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:51.360 as well as adding the Lakers as well. You know, it was a 703 00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:55.159 good pleasure for me, uh to be in that city. And I still 704 00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:59.239 be back and forth to to the l A area, you know, I 705 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.280 still be back up. But this has been a treat. Thank you for 706 00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.840 doing today. We really appreciate it. Oh well, the pleasure was man, 707 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:08.960 Rodney, Rodney, what you're doing? None, just chilling, Yeah, 708 00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:12.880 I'm just chilling. Man. Trying to keep Fred straight. You know, 709 00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:15.480 Fred is always you know, doing something crazy, so I got to 710 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:20.159 keep him in line. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would 711 00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.000 tell you the guy here. I say, hell, Fred gave me more 712 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:30.320 damn griefs lived That's okay. I survived you, Fred, I survived you. 713 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:38.440 What everybody else I was hoping? All? Yeah? Yeah, this 714 00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:43.079 was a nightmare I had. I ain't want to look at TV. I 715 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.000 want to look at TV. I won't read the papers. I wouldn't do 716 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.280 nothing. I was like, God, damn, this should have been my 717 00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:53.800 ass. But Fred was an equal opportunity dogg man. He was on every 718 00:51:55.599 --> 00:52:00.400 we all got it, we all got it. Yeah, but he was. 719 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:02.199 He was more on the Clippers because we were the domatic. This was 720 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:05.880 the do man of the league. I mean, you know, so of 721 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.360 course he was. He was gonna he was gonna do what he needed to 722 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.679 do because he had to keep that he had to keep that news going, 723 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:20.000 you know what I mean? Yeah, Oh absolutely, I ain't ever forgetting 724 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.320 all of that stuff. Man. Yeah, I told you y'all, y'all 725 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:27.960 made me. Y'all made me. Yeah he he he. I was gonna 726 00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.280 he I was gonna stay here, I was gonna go, so I told 727 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:35.119 to stay and that's what I did, right. So it was a good 728 00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:37.400 time though, but no, I thank you for doing it, man, 729 00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:39.840 We really truly appreciate it. All right, Well, I appreciate y'all, 730 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:45.239 cosmy man, thank you pleasures. Man, there he goes the grin. 731 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:53.800 But Benjamin, yeah, come on, be honest. That was actually fun. 732 00:52:54.000 --> 00:53:00.800 That that was real. That was a real treat. That was better 733 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:07.360 than expected. That was good. Yes, all right, Mike di Giovanna. 734 00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.199 At the times, we'll talk some Dodgers and we'll have spirituality as we continue.