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September twenty eight, twenty twenty three. Allegedly according to that thing we call
a calendar, and this is a show you might have been looking for.
But then again, maybe it came across that accidentally. No matter what,
no matter where you are, when you are, because you could be hearing
this further on down the stream by your finals Clab of choice, your applicable
application and all that. You know what, no matter who you are,
where you are when you are, welcome to it. Anyway, Thursday Thursday,
and I could put on get another Guy named Joe if I wanted to,
because we've had regular Joe and Blind Joe on this week. But it
turns out Larry Hancock did not feel up to do in this show tonight.
So I had a conversation with somebody on Skype that I meant to bring on
I don't know, ten days ago, and said, hey, how about
if I drop you in eight o'clock tonight and he said yes, So who
do I have with me? Oddly enough, a guy who's actually been around
me during most of the journey of the Ocelli Effect. Now we're going to
celebrate ten years of that in Dallas and all that stuff. And I've talked
about the swag, the merch, the limited edition because I can't afford to
print too much of it at all, stuff that celebrates a decade of the
o'chelli effect and all that goodness. But and those things, none of it
for sale, but if you make a contribution, I will gladly send you
a thank you gift. Anyway, here's the guy who's actually kind of been
around almost the whole time, because when I started on a platform called ucuy
dot tv in twenty fourteen, when I took the show live because I had
done a couple of podcasts and didn't even know what the hell to do with
them before that, I went live on ucy dot tv and there was the
Ocelli effects started to actually get people listening to it. And one of the
guys that was over there, I think right at the time even is uh
is this guy a guy we call Shalli Shalli Lama, the infamous one.
Shall he's been around longer than me by a bit. He's a more talented
musician than I am. Uh guitar especially, but otherwise I think he's got
other talents rocking too. I'm gonna get into maybe some of his music and
play it on short attention span DJ theater when I get a chance. But
anyway, now I've given the full on introduction and only missed what it is
we're going to discuss. It's time to talk about the virus again and the
vaccine. And you know that voice is still did Anyways, Shalli, how
you doing tonight? First of all, I'm trying to have fun with this.
I got it, man, I'm good. I'm good. You know,
it's uh, you know, last night I'm going through my emails and
and there Jessica Rose and she says it's written, and they're like, I
see Ocelly and I'm like, I had to do it, like a double
take. I'm like, wow, she you know, she connected and he
connected with her. And I've been kind of looking at her sub stack for
quite a quite a while now. And there you are, and there you
are on Rock Finn and I listened to pretty much most of the most of
the hour, and so yeah, it was nice to see you on that
platform. And you know, the video platform, and there's Jessica and and
so I messaged you saying hey, you know, like there you are and
that's cool, and and then you know, the next day you answered and
there was an open slot. So here I am. There you go,
doctor Jessica Rose. If you guys have missed it, the audio is in
at the regular feed. You know, if you go to the front page
at Chelly dot com you can go get the audio. But you can see
the video on rock Finn. Not a lot of impressive stuff in the video
except her, because she's impressive all by herself. And by the way,
everybody, Part two coming next week of that interview. Now I didn't record
it yet. I'm going to record it this coming week. Okay, so
we're going to revisit. And actually I'm gonna bring along help because yeah,
I need a technical advisor with her, So I'm gonna bring along and technical
advisor. Surprise guy. If you're used to listening to the show over the
past couple of years, you'll recognize him. Everybody, but definitely it'll make
a lot of sense when I bring this guy on to talk about some very
particular things regarding the vaccine and doctor Jessica Ross. And I advise you to
go over to her website which I don't have in front of me at the
moment, but not just the substack. But her website is interesting. Have
you been to her regular website show? I want to say, it's been
pretty much exclusive to just you know, the substack and I get on there
and I comment. So because she, unlike some other people that are doing
the type of work you know, that have a huge following, you know,
hers is free because she feels the need to you know, get get
information out, whereas other people hide it from you know, hide that you
well, you can read it, but you can't comment and different things like
that. Some you can you can only read a paragraph. But I kind
of questioned that, like Robert Malone's is a you know as a pay site
and things like that. So but uh yeah, just substack for Jessica.
Yeah, no, awesome stuff. But you know what, I'm looking through
my RSS feed. Actually there's a little problem here. I don't see uh
yeah, I don't actually see Jessica Rose on the regular feed. I gotta
I gotta put her back out through the regular feed because something is odd here.
Anyway, guys, I will get that back out there. But if
you're on my rockpin channel, you definitely got it, and I know I
put it out, so we're gonna we're gonna re release that and make sure
we get to the part two out there as soon as possible, unless somehow
Spreaker took it down or something. That's weird, because I just went to
go look and see if I could grab her website, and I'm gonna go
get that while I'm talking to you. But anyway, Shully, you have
a little bit of a different thing you want to talk about, so I
wanted to give you a chance, and you have a bit of a presentation
here. I probably should have done this video with you, but it's okay,
we can do this audio. It is theater of the mind, and
it is theater of the mind. Screw or whatever at this point with regarding
all of this stuff, you know, the mandatory shot. I mean,
obviously there's a bit of a theme rolling through here. Lately. People are
talking about the possibility of the re implementation of masks and what's going to happen
if they shut down the country again. And I don't think anybody is gonna
put up with it. I mean, I think even the normies are sick
and tired of getting told that you know, everything's got to get shut down
for this thing. And oh, by the way, all these shots.
I think it's finally starting to sink in with some people. I might want
to question this, considering there's so many people that suddenly have problems, even
athletic people, even seemingly healthy people. Oh gee, I don't know,
why are they sick? Why did this guy drop dead? Whether it's a
rapper or a football player or whoever, people are going, wait a minute,
something's a little off here. It's taken them a while. And of
course I've gotten kicked off of YouTube partially because of medical misinformation and been threatened
even by Apple about it. But but but here we go. Let's let's
have the conversation. What is your experience with this and what is it that
you want to focus on today? Okay, Well, so, I,
like many other people that were aware that something like this was coming, I
include you, you know, I include you in that that correct me if
I'm wrong. But I think we all kind of have enough this trust and
regarding our system, this system that you know that incorporates us, and so,
uh, you know, we had a taste of something like this,
and I remember in nineteen seventy six with the swine flew thing, and I
was just thirdictory guys then, and you know, there was there was a
certain amount of fear about that. Even at a young age. I was
like, well, what's this And I don't want to participate in this,
you know, I didn't want to participate in kindergarten. But that's an another
story. But so along comes twenty two thousand and nine with the H one
N one and it was like, what's going on here? And then they
the same process where they kind of you know, they kind of declared a
pandemic and then but no masks or anything like that, and they started the
implementation of the JAB and then they stopped because I remember it's starting in like
April or something like that, and I had a you know, I had
a trip plan that was heading out. I was heading out west to see
family and do some things. In two thousand and nine, I think it
was one of these I think it was in kind of with a Microsoft type
event, you know, one of these things that they do. So I
tried to kill two birds with one stone, and so so they do that
and the next thing, you know, it ends right and You're like,
what happened? You know, and you don't know that much about what's going
on. I tried to like to see or clear of it because I knew
back then no JAB for me. And so then it ended, and then
years later you find out the damage that that did, and then you know,
here we aren't you know, we get twenty twenty and then they launched
this thing, this stie out, and so we're all I'm sitting there and
I'm like, hey, what you know, what am I going to do
here? I'm not going to change my I'm going to change my style of
Dylan things. Well, let me ask you a quick question there, because
you're getting ready to make a trip now. Were you making a trip in
your own conveyance or were you looking to use, you know, an airplane
or something like that, because you know, some people they got told you
can't make a trip unless you got a certificate. Show when you've been vexed?
How about this was the two thousand, nine h one N one is
when you know when I took that and there wasn't any mandates or anything,
there was no mass. But in twenty twenty, I'm sorry, I got
confused. I got confused. I was thinking that you were saying you were
making a trip around then my mistake. You're talking about the old swine flue
deal. Okay, they have the two thousand and nine events, you know,
just kind of building up like they were building up to this. Oh
yeah, well, let's not forget the various things. Right. We were
supposed to be afraid of the Zeker virus. We were supposed to be afraid
of not only the swine flu, but what was the other the West nine,
the West now and then twenty fourteen e Bowler, which has some very
and I'm gonna I'm gonna convey to you that this that pretty much. I
want to say something something that was used in twenty fourteen in West Africa that
caused the bleeding and all that other stuff. They know what they're doing.
They call they call it a virus, and it's it's actually something else.
And so you know, in in the fall of twenty nineteen, I traveled,
I went out my Unfortunately, my brother in law passed and you know,
my sister. I was concerned about my sister, so I wanted to
go out there. You know, I wasn't there when he died, but
afterwards, you know, three or four months later, I decided to let
me head out there. I made a kind of a stop over in Utah
to meet up with you know, Clint Richardson. So we you know,
recorded a few things and broke some bread and uh and and Utah's just a
beautiful place. I mean, it really is. And so then I headed
out to see my sister. On the way back, you know, I
had I had, you know, I had a really you know, nasty
kind of a cold. It was a nasty cold. But we didn't even
know anything about We didn't know about COVID at that point. So and so
January comes around and I'm sick again, and I knew that COVID was coming.
We were talking at Greg, you know, Greg Q and me talking
about, you know, what would possibly happen. They're locking down in China,
what would they do? Would they do that here? Like, what
would they do? Well? You and I actually did shows around that time,
and right, yeah, Greg, Greg and I were on with you,
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were doing that, and I think
I went over to another platform where you guys were doing something together and joined
you guys somewhere else, even because we were looking at this thing emerging,
and indeed, in April of twenty twenty, I wound up getting really sick.
But to me, it was like a terrible flu and I was coughing.
I keep saying this. I was like, I was coughing up putting
because that's the only time I remember doing that in my life. And I've
been sick a lot of times. I mean, I was a street kid,
so I got pneumonia a bunch of times as a kid, stuff like
that, So it's not like I'm unfamiliar with various respiratory problems. This one
seemed unique, though, But I didn't think it was like the plague,
like everybody was treating it. But I'm going, well, this is like,
I mean, I hate to do this because this is an old thing,
but it was like a rough flu to me, you know. But
anyway, Yeah, could continue though, because I love that stuff you were
doing with him back then, and the funny graphics you guys were putting out
and stuff with Fauci and all that. It was really a lot of fun.
I'm sorry it was a dark subject, but you guys were really making
it the cartoon it needed to be. A guhad I remember you saying like
and you know, twenty twenty one or something only communicated that you were that
you had gotten sick, and of course, you know, I was concerned,
and you said, well, it just took a while to get you
know, get get over it. But you're still here. And it shows
that you're you know, your govin I steal, you're o'celly, So you're
impervious to these these bastards. So okay, So so I get sick in
January. You know, somebody said to me, hey, your face is
kind of red, and I thought it was kind of sun you know,
that I had gotten some sun in January, because you know, I would
often go out for a walk, you know, during the day or something.
And then I'm like and then all of a sudden, I realized I'm
sick. But it really wasn't anything. This was before the lockdown, and
I was like, okay, you know, I kind of, you know,
kind of running a fever, but it wasn't anything. I never thought
that my life was in danger. It just felt like a regular kind of
a bug with you know, kind of a fever in the beginning, and
then it you know, but but then again, I had the cold in
September October, and I'm like, what's going on? Like, what the
heck s up with my immune system? Anyway, So COVID comes around the
lockdowns, and I'm out doing my thing, and and it didn't matter to
me. I was out. They were shutting they were shutting down everything.
I was just out kind of doing whatever I wanted to a cross state line
whatever. I wasn't you know, I had a concern, but I really
wasn't. I really wasn't like afraid or anything. You know. What I
was more of. What I was more kind of fearful or or concerned about
was whether they were getting you know, that that a jab was on the
way, and that was the real problem. That was that how they were
going to handle it, what they were going to do, in my mind,
was the real problem, not what was you know, not what was
going around right now in context here, I just want to get something straight
here too, because look, I had a different experience in making Georgia Shelley
because you know, in the Northeast, which I miss all the time.
I missed Jersey, not just because of the pizza, although partially because of
the pizza. I missed the hell out of Jersey. But I was kind
of glad not to be up in the Northeast for this because you guys had
a different experience. There were masks here for a little bit, but it
wasn't the you know, the compliance Nazis breaking you down. You weren't getting
thrown right the hell out of stores. There were people that were terrified when
they saw me without a mask, and I talked about the first time I
had that happen and going out with my son and everything else on this show.
But it was weird to me because people were reporting different experiences in different
parts of the country. If you were in California, you know, people
would practically swarm on you and shame you and freak out if you didn't have
your you know, your mask on right and stuff like this and almost demanding
your vaccine certificate and everything. I mean, all kinds of crap. In
the Northeast, it was rough, but in other parts of the country not
so much. There were different regions that had different experiences. So just for
the record, for everybody, you're in the Northeast, which was not the
worst of it in America, but was I wasn't there, but you know,
it's in Jersey. So I mean it's uh, We've got yeah.
But they had travel restrictions because I was trying to make a trip to Jersey
back then, and they were like, look, you're gonna have to quarantine.
They had all these different things. I'm going, how are you going
to enforce this if I show up in a car and you know, but
there was this whole bit because I was going to go try and get some
paperwork done with the government, and they were telling me all this crap about
you know, look, you're gonna have to quarantine if you come to Jersey
from where you are and I'm like, quarantine, I can't even where would
they even be checking that? I mean, well that was my that was
my question at the end of all this stuff, when I'm going, well,
by what you know, a standard, do you have the right to
demand any of this crap from me? I mean, I get it,
I'm going to a government office and when I go in there, you probably
could make it so I can't enter without a mask. But outside of that,
what is this about all this other crap? How can you demand that?
And oh, by the way, if I was to fabricate and I
said this to a registrar. If I fabricated a vaccine certificate and showed it
to you, would you know the difference anyway? You know what I'm saying,
Like, and she just kind of really was dismissive and like, well,
you got a quarantine in a hotel room for four days or some crap
if you come up here and take a test before you come to our office.
And I'm like, yeah, well who's collecting that? How are you
even enforcing these imaginary rules? And that was Jersey Shalli. I'm just saying
that was a conversation that took place, and by the way, I still
hadn't straightened out my birth certificate issue. But anyway, the thing is I
just kind of like washed my hands of it and then wound up having to
do a court date thing via zoom in Jersey, which was I was kind
of happy for that because that meant I didn't have to travel there and definitely
couldn't afford an extra four days in a damn hotel room if I was to
try and be compliant, which I wasn't looking to be anyway. But it
was a weird time where they had these rules and really no way to enforce
them. Although they were saying they were going to deny you the ability to
travel or go places, et cetera. So I'm just trying to set the
scene for everybody here. And remember this was the case that this was going
on and you were in Jersey. New York might be different, but Jersey
had its own, right, Yeah, New York was. And when you
have when you have a governor an ex Goldman Sachs alumni Phil Murphy who said,
you know who who's just made some really really uh just garbage remarks because
he's a garbage he's a he's in a hatchet man for the scum that is
was you know that is behind all of this. Uh, you know all
these things like Gretchen Whittler and and and Gavin Newsom and and a lot of
these and we should really shouldn't kind of like it's nice that de Santis kind
of did you know, the opposite, But I just I'm Larry. When
these when these guys get into these governorships, you know, there's also a
Governors Association where they all they all get together at one at some point.
I don't know if it's one every for every year, annually or two years,
but they all get together and decide what they're going to do, you
know, collectively do so there you know, there really isn't any sovereignty in
states. It's all an illusion. But you know, the thing here is
that you know, I went through twenty twenty. The JAB was introduced in
in in in late twenty twenty, in December, and then fast forward,
okay, fast forward to December of twenty twenty one. Okay, this is
nearly like not quite two years since this thing started. But you know,
I didn't have you know, I didn't have stuff I did. I didn't
know anybody that that that that that had gotten it. You know, it
was just really this bizarre thing. But again it didn't happen. So now
here's the weird thing. Again, here's the weird thing. It just you
know, I don't know how many podcasts you were doing or radio shows you
were doing at that point, but generally speaking, you were you were communicating
with a lot of people, and you were relaying your own experiences a lot
of times. And here was the problem I had too, when everybody's screaming,
well, there's people dying everywhere, and I'm going the funny thing is
I don't know any of them. And I know people all over the country,
my friends aren't dying. Even the old guys that lived next to me.
I used to live next to these two veterans. Their place burned down.
That's a whole other sad story. But these two old guys who are
not in the best of hell, Vietnam vets. You know, they went
in the hospital and they were you know, they were checking them and everything,
and I swore that they were probably gonna stick them on ventilators and that
would be the end of these guys. But it didn't happen. They didn't
get sick. Even they were mad they couldn't go to church. I'm in
the Bible belt, don't forget. I mean, you know, they were
made. They couldn't go to church. It was virtual church. They were
pissed off. But even the old guys that I had around me weren't getting
sick. It was like, I didn't know anybody who was dying from this,
necessarily, not firsthand. None of my friends, none of my people,
none of the people I was in direct contact with, died. Some
of them got sick, and we experienced horrendous blues that hanged on us and
heard us a couple of guys that did the show with me that were like
co hosts or regulars couldn't be on for a while. They couldn't breathe this
and that, And I said, you know what, this is a harsh
thing that went around. But all these deaths, I don't know anybody.
And I wasn't the only one saying this. So you're telling me that was
kind of like your circumstance too. Yeah, absolutely it was. You know,
one would wonder if anything was really happening, but we in social media,
you know, this is the whole process where people were, you know,
just doing their thing that they were pro, whether they were pro the
system doing what they were doing to us to keep us safe, or whether
they were anti you know. So it was just like back and forth.
But in December of twenty twenty one, just before Christmas, I was and
I was thinking, like when I was hearing long COVID, I was in
my mind, I'm like, if anybody's got long COVID, it's it's from
that jab. It's from that jab. Okay. So I was just like
they took the jab or whatever. And then you heard I heard about shedding
and different things like that. Well, I didn't take it. I had
no intention of doing it no matter what. And so and so in December
again of twenty twenty one, I just before Christmas, I went and I
had dinner with a couple of people that I used to work with. Okay,
okay, and so I had probably you know, a couple of beers
and and some you know, bad bar food, and then traveled home.
And then the next day it's like, I'm sorry, I wasn't like,
right, I just there was something wrong. I wasn't you know right?
That was I went. Then that was a Tuesday, and then the next
day I was like, something's wrong. Okay. Two things. I couldn't
help myself from chuckling because because I immediately pictured, you know, you're getting
some wings and beer and sitting there going, yeah, these are wings,
but wings or what uh? You know that kind of thing, And that's
what you get in a lot of these bars with the bad food, for
sure, So I'm thinking of that. But also while while you're getting ready,
and I know where this is gonna go, and and it's sad because
here's the thing. I started to notice this too, and I couldn't get
people who were buying into the system, so to speak. I mean,
let's not even talk about Okay, well they're just duds took the short.
No, I'm not even gonna go there. I'm just gonna say the people
that bought into the fear foreign enough to submit for one reason or another.
And some people would tell me, look, I gotta keep my job,
you know, and listen, man, I don't judge anybody for your judgments.
But I don't want to be judged either. Here's the thing about it,
though, I noted already immediately that even though the literature from Visor itself
said this wouldn't stop the spread, this wouldn't stop transmission. That's what Don
Lemon was telling you every night. That's what MSNBC was telling you every night.
That's what even Fox News was telling you every night, is that this
will stop it. If you don't do this, you're killing Grandma, You're
killing other people. You need to do this because this is the only way
that the transmission stops. And I'm looking at Fiser's own stuff, yep.
And going Visor doesn't say the people trying to push it, the people trying
to sell it, the people that might falsify data are not even ballsy enough
to tell you that, but they're going to tell you this in the media,
and these people are parroting all this, and I'm going, wait a
minute, what does this really mean? Now? In my household, nobody
got the shot. And you know, my youngest child was with me,
and he was sick for about a day or two. Turned it right around,
unvaccinated child, He's fine. Me and Kim a little different. We
hung on to it for a little bit. We got sick and moved on.
Now, other people that got the shot. Funny thing, not only
did they test positive multiple times for it after their shots, but it seemed
to keep hanging on to them to the point where it was like, well
I got it again. Well I got it again, and I was having
trouble figuring out where it started and stopped with them, even my own kids.
I have adult kids now, okay, if you remember I had,
you know, teenage and stuff kids when you first met me, Well,
they're into young adulthood now. And one of them, well both of them
took shots. We can't do anything about. I didn't raise them exactly,
so you know, it wasn't like my voice was loud in their head.
But they made their own decisions and guess what. One of them repeatedly had
it and had it hanging on them and I'm going with the shot after the
shot, yes, and I'm going, you know, it's the shot,
and they're going, no, it's not the shot, and they and what
did they default to? It'll be worse if I didn't get the shot right
exactly. And that's the narrative that that they had it all covered. And
if you, if you, if you mentioned something about a minute ago,
yeah, I want to turn you loose on all of this. I just
needed to get that out and throw it at you because it's like, I
know where you're gonna go, and unfortunately, I just gotta let you go
at it because this is a sad story that needs to be told again and
again and again. So please go ahead. Well, my story is not
so much sad. It's just an example of of of you know, what
is what's reality? And then what you said about the documentation and the website
saying one thing and the media saying another. The horrific issue there is that
people can't read. Yeah, they will look at the television set. They
will not go to a website and look and you will see that the media
can say whatever they want to say, and then the organizations that pulled this
off, they can put the truth or something very very close to the truth
that will that will be like this is what our website said. Whatever CNN
said, that's something totally different. So they so they tell the truth here
in areas where they said, well, most people will not even go.
They know that some people will go. The Jessica Roses will go, the
Steve Curses will go, the Brian artists will go. But then other people
will just not. They'll just you know, and that's why your boys said
no, no, that it would be it would have been worse because that's
what they said on the television set. And that's what we've been turned into.
And not to denigrate your your boys, I mean they're they're Ocellis,
So there's we're all. We're all. You know, propaganda can get us,
you know, like a cobra strike when you're not watching. Well,
look, I wasn't my whole life enlightened to any of this either, so
you know, it took me a while, and at their age, maybe
I wasn't so tuned in. After all, the first guy I voted for
president's name was Bill Clinton, and I was voting at that point, so
you know, I was in a different world back then. I understand we
all got to grow up sometime, So I give them their time and I
hope they survive it. But you know, I got I got one son
and one daughter in that older category, and I got my youngest son with
me. So you know it, but it is what it is. Continue
on with your story. I'm sorry I sidetracked you there, kind of derealized.
Sorry, So we've been fed a narrative of virus, the virus,
virus, virus. We were fed the narrative of the Spanish flu being a
virus that came out of nowhere when it was caused by injections, and and
it was the troops kind of got them, you know, because they're always
injected, they're always the test subjects. And then then the public is told,
ay, when these these after the war, when they come, when
they're coming back to America, they're going to be bringing diseases. And I
guess all the other countries and everything did the same thing, because the dark
Lords that run this entire show control pretty much every country, and their goal
is eugenics. And you know, using the commoners as fodder and then wiping
them out. Well plus it's plus it's also sound strategy to demonize all of
the returning soldiers at all times. And you know why, because if they
came back, survived the horror and learned their lesson and decided to turn their
now newly toned aggressive tendencies and training against the system, if that happened,
see, that's why they created the middle classes, to make sure that we
didn't have a pissed off World War two generation going you screwed us, We
know how to fight. And then they turned on them. That's why they
gave them the middle class stuff. They gave them and the GI bill and
all that stuff was so that they didn't have that problem like they had after
World War One. You know, these guys do learn a listen now and
then, so you can't have a returning military force that is not demonized,
untouchable, damage screwed up one way or another, either directly because they're PTSD
and mentally and emotionally damaged, or because they are now you know, listen
to stay away from them. They've they've had diseases, they've been to crazy
places. They are problematic, so you can't let them unify with the home
front when they come home. That's sound strategy, shall we sorry, go
ahead, creating a killer and then you know they have to create the soldier
that's going to go out there and perform. But you know when they come
back and then you know some of them, that's why they were deeming,
uh, you know, returning veterans to be terrorists, and you know,
like, here's you and call you a bad man. That's exactly the deal,
exactly, thank you. So do you have a second hour guest or
tonight or are we know it's good for an hour or it's all you man,
it's all you tonight. A matter of fact, if you want to
take a quick break just to regain your thoughts, we can do that too,
because I'm not on the AMFM schedule anymore, so I can do whatever
the hell I want because it's my stream, my radio station, my show.
So do you feel like a break or you want to keep rolling?
No, I mean I'm good to just kind of get through this thing of
my own personal experience and then and then someone else's findings that brought me to
a revelation of Oh, so that's what happened to me. Excellent, I'll
sit back and listen ahead. So in December twenty twenty one, I start
feeling kind of ill and then I lose my appetite completely. Not that I
lost my sense of taste or smell, but I think that was something that
kind of happened throughout my life. And that was something that you know,
I kind of like bounced off of my brother saying, hey, you know,
like when we were young and we were we got sick with a fever
or something like that, and I said, didn't food kind of taste weird?
Like it didn't taste fully, you mean, like you know, it
was it was just kind of blands and everything. So there was something about
whatever it is that we had that caused us to you know, maybe you
know they have these say feed a cold star of a fever, you know
what I mean, because most of the time, if you have a fever,
you're really not kind of hungry. You're not you're not gonna eat.
But anyway, so I start losing my appetite and then and then Christmas comes
around and and I'm just kind of like at home, and at that time,
I was just it was just me for a specific reason. You know,
it was just me as opposed to the two of us for you know,
it was like a job opportunity, a short term job opera triunity to
grab and you know, a bunch of loot and it was you know,
uh kind of like so it was just me, whatever the cause, whatever
the cause, you're by yourself. Yep. It was so I was all
alone and so and so next thing, you know, I'm just feeling weird.
You know. I would there were mornings when I would wake up or
something and I would just have like this just a cold sweat, you know,
like like just water sweat just porning out of me. And it was
like nothing like that I ever really experienced. I know that. You know.
My brother would say, you know, I got sick, you know,
like I would. I would go to bed and then I would wake
up, and I apparently, you know, some people like sweat it out
and then they wake up and they're like, oh, I feel good,
my body's really out kind of like tune like that. I don't think that's
ever maybe that's happened once to me, But so I kind of go on
and then I find out from you know a number of people that they're all
stick, and it's like, what the heck is happening? Right, So
then I get to the point where I'm kind of I kind of start getting
worried. I don't feel like my life is in danger. I can breathe
and everything, because I you know, I took some I took some remedies,
and so I'm online and I went to this like America's Frontline Doctors because
I wanted to get some ivermectin or whatever. Okay, and so I take
I have to take a picture of myself. I have to put my my
license in there, and I take a picture of myself and I really looked
at myself and I'm like, oh my God, like I look, I'm
I look bad, right, there was just something I just look bad.
Right. So here we are. We go into twenty twenty two. It's
January and I'm interviewing for a position somewhere, and even that day, so
it was like the I think it was like the twenty second and of December
was when it had started, and this was like January ninth, and I
was still like dragging my hind quarters getting dressed to you know, go to
this, you know, before Christmas you're starting to feel like crap. But
then and post holidays, everything is done, all said and done, the
new year is coming gone, and you're still dragging like you're sapped your dreamed
right. Yeah, yeah, okay, that was kind of common for me
to, you know, because when I get sick in my life, you
know, and I'm I'm past the fifty mark, I would you know,
it would take a while for me to like, even like four maybe five
weeks later, I'm just like, you know, still coughing out something or
just feeling like that, you know, just not completely. Yeah, this
is this is funny to me too, because you mentioned the fifty mark.
I was saying to myself at the time, you know, maybe it's just
because I'm getting old here, uh, you know. And I didn't lose
my taste, by the way. I started tasting metal and blood for some
reason, and I couldn't understand why that was all I could taste, which
was weird, and nobody could match that up. So I'm going, okay,
I'm just weird. What else is new? It was like a sinus
thing like when you were you know, if you were to you know,
play, your nose was there like anything in there, no, no,
if there was no cause for it, it was just the flavor that was
in my mouth. Everything seemed to go to this singular taste that was metallic
or bloody, which are similar flavors to me, you know, because I
mean I've had my own blood in my mouth plenty of times. Uh.
It's just like, okay, I know what that is. That tastes like
I'm bleeding in there, and I look for the blood. No blood,
okay. And it kept happening, and I kept and I just went,
well, maybe that's my version of you can't taste nothing. And I was
dragging for a bit. Now about that sweating thing, that's another thing,
because you know, when it's pouring out of you, like you're describing,
that's sort of like a urge thing. I mean, the only time that
that really happened to me, where it was really flying out of me is
quite frankly, when I was withdrawn from the opiates. I was addicted to,
which the doctor gave me a course. But when I was withdrawn from
that, I mean, the sweat is amazing, and it's draining on top
of it, you know, like you're literally feeling like am I going to
dehydrate from all this fluid coming out of me, because this is a lot
of fluid, you know, And indeed this was part of it as well.
So go ahead, continue on though it's it's January ninth. Now you're
saying, yeah, and I'm and I'm interviewing for a position, and I'm
going in there and I'm just trying to hold it all together. I eventually
got the job, but malaise fatigue even into like January into February. There
was one time I'm talking on the phone and I go into like a wholesale
club and I come out and then I feel like I'm running a fever,
and so I just go I go home, down, I wake up the
next day. Yeah. Did you also feel along with that some bounts of
like just sort of mental kind of like a mild disorientation did happen too?
I would definitely brain fog for sure. Yeah, okay, just checking.
Go ahead. Yeah. And and so we get into like March and April,
and I don't know what it was. I picked up this this uh
this server, this Blade server, and I don't know whether it was that
or whatever. But next thing, you know, I'm dealing with attackocardia.
Do you know what that is? Yeah, of course acardia. I'm sitting
still and my heart is racing, racing, right, what they call an
arrhythmia or attackacardia. So I'm like, what f is this? Right?
And I don't know whether it was something that I did to my neck because
I was carrying this blade server and you know, my neck, and I
was arching my my left arm up to just to I should have waited for
the guy that I was working with to, you know, to grab it
with me and take it where it needed to be. Okay, So you're
doing the checklist about did I just physically stress myself? Did I consume?
About I enter my vegest nerve, which runs up behind the back of your
ear, you know, and down your neck, and then the vegest nerve.
I don't know if you know about that, but it goes to so
many areas of your body. It's like this mystery nerve. But anyway,
so I've got this taxocardia and I'm not having a problem breathing, I'm not
sweating, There's nothing else going on other than my heart is bracing. Okay.
I thought it might have been some herbs that I took, but I
wasn't sure. And so I'm going through this process where it's like, do
I want to go to the hospital and have them take a shot at at
you know, putting me under, you know, putting me six ft under,
or do I just kind of like see if I can remedy this.
So I try some things and sometimes it would just go for like four hours,
and then I would eat something and then it would stop. I could
tell when it normalized, what I mean, because your your your body's running
a marathon, but you're you're sitting still, okay, right, okay.
And then there was a number of times, like two times it went for
nine to twelve hours. Sometimes I fell asleep with it, and when I
woke up it was normalized. So I'm sitting there, I'm like, what
the hell is going on? Right? So, prior to this, probably
in early maybe I want to say, in twenty twenty one, I'm connected
with this guy. It was it was a group of people. I got
a podcast or guy and he did. He was connected to all these people.
Was like a roundtable from people Australia all over the world. Right,
So I kind of like found them at this site that I was at this
video site live streaming on there, and I just started sending some messages like,
yeah, I'd like to join in, you know like that. So
then he and this guy invited me in. And then I met this other
guy there who's based you know, in the States and the on the West
coast. And then he says, hey, I got my own platform,
and we were talking about some of the same things. So he said,
yeah, after we're done here, I'll send you you know, I'll send
you a link and then you can join me and we'll have you know,
we'll we'll continue to discuss what, you know, because we couldn't have a
continue to have a conversation because it was just like a conference, you know,
and so it wasn't the right kind of moment to speak about about what
we were talking about. Everybody had their say. It was a good conversation,
but we wanted to talk more about certain things, and so I did
that with him, and well, you know, it was kind of a
cool thing just to kind of connect with people that were, you know,
experiencing the same thing. Knew what was going on across the board, and
so I'm still following him and the next thing, you know, he has
this guy on. He has this retired chiropractor by the name of Brian Artists.
Okay, and I'm leary of everybody at this point, everybody. I
was leary of Robert Malone when I saw him for the first time, just
something just didn't didn't really click with him. It was him the dark Horse
podcast guy and Steve Kirsh and they were talking about this I think it was
in the spring of twenty twenty one, and so he starts talking about Thompson's
and then right away as I'm listening, and it's slowly dawned on me because
I'm not that bright, and I was just like just like being by like
being smacked across the face. And I said, Okay, I know what
has been going on with me. I know what happened to be in December
of twenty twenty one. I was poisoned. I was poisoned. And then
I'm like, could COVID nineteen be a poisoning and not a virus? But
if you look at the presentation right on page three of the presentation, right,
it's a Time magazine cover, okay, and it says January eleventh,
nineteen ninety nine, the future of medicine, how genetic engineering will change us
in the next century. And what's on that what's on the screen there on
Time magazine page A snake. Yeah, the snake is wrapped around It looks
like a DNA strand, but with a snake wrapped around one half of the
one half of the helix. Yeah, okay, now let's go to the
next page. Okay. The Wall Street Journal says virus the spread of a
Latin term for poison from infectius, disease and computer malware to rapid success of
online marketing campaigns. Okay, right now, we scroll to the next page,
and it says the English word for virus is based on a Latin word
for poison secreation, and early on it often kept its original meaning of the
venom. Okay, yeah, yeah, that's that's true. Okay. So
and then he then in this presentation created by someone who whose father in law
died from fauci these protocols, knowing that rem doesn't here was a toxic poison.
So he goes, so let's scroll down some more, and then it
just kind of shows some he's just kind of, you know, doubling and
tripling down on what the Latin poison venom toxic stuff isn't here, so we
see here in the NAH May of twenty twenty three, they published this paper
and it says as far as Covey two spike ecto domain targets A seven nicotinic
acetocholine receptors. Did you know, Chuck, that our bodies have nicotinic receptors
in them? Yeah? I did. Actually they good, good, good,
So we're kind on the same page. They're in the brain, yeah,
the heart, the kidneys, male reproductive. They may be in more
organs than or are known, actually, depending on whose study you read,
because there are various Like when when people talk about cannabinoid receptors and all that,
it's not just in the brain. Uh, these types of receptors are
actually present in various systems and organ systems throughout the body. Yeah, and
not just again, I mentioned cannabinoid because the first one that comes to mind,
but but no, this one, yeah, same thing. That's that's
one of the first times I heard when I was looking at the CBD stuff,
when that was becoming more of a prominent available thing, that was like,
you know, the cannabinoid receptors. I'm like, oh, that's interesting,
you know, it's like a little football game going on. I got
some receptors in my body here, and you know, once what do they
catch. They don't catch football as they catch cannabinoids, right, Believe it
or not. There's actually a receptor for opium two perfectly matched for opium as
well. That's why it's so highly addictive and has been so prominent for you
know century as a useful, you know drug for people to be manipulated with.
By the way, the opioids are perfect because we have opioid receptors in
our body. Believe it or not, they're already there. So yeah,
I'm sorry, I mean the sidetrack. I'm just saying that the world of
receptors in the body is quite expansive and interesting for people to study if they're
not aware of it. So go ahead, right, So we also have
like glutamate receptors and things like that in the body that they called, you
know, like excitotoxins. Doctor Russell Blaylock did A is a neurosurgeon. He
talks about the food additives that cause issues cancers revolve around glutamine or glutamate,
you know. So anyway, so in this thing, it said the stars
Kobe spike ecto domain. So it goes down and it says the car stars
Kobe two glycoprotein contains a neurotoxin like region that has sequenced similarities to rabies virus
and the HIV glycoproteins, as well as snake neurotoxins which interact with nicotinic acetylcholine
receptors or the nac HR. That's what you know the medically, that's what
you would see subtypes via this region. Okay, and so let's scroll down.
Okay, So it said norotoxin. And there was this guy that Clint
knows who has a company called Mother Earth Minerals. I forget what his name
is. He's he's out of Utah. He does a podcast on one of
the platforms, and I downloaded it and he said, no virus will really
cause someone to lose their sense of taste and smell, but a neurotoxin would.
Okay. So I remember that and I held onto it pretty you know,
pretty pretty good, because it was something that you know, it was
the path because I kept on sitting there saying before December twenty twenty one,
I said, somebody's gonna find out something soon. Well, if you've ever
been bit by a highly venomous arachneid or a spider or a snake, I'm
sorry, or a venomous snake or arachneid either one. Guess what. You
know this already because that's one of the weirdest things that happens, is the
the reaction in your mouth, a loss of sensation, including taste, happens
with certain types of well what they would call venom right generally, and they
do use a neurotoxin that's literally what they use to you know, to disable
their prey so that they can eat them. The snake might do it so
they can eat them, and they want to eat their prey alive, by
the way, So generally speaking, both arachnids and snakes will do that,
you know, with with odd exceptions like the you know, like the king
cobra does eat other snakes things like that. But when they eat other prey,
especially when it's mammals or something like that, they often disable them with
a neurotoxin. That is what they do. And if you get bit by
it and there's a significant amount of venom, depending on the concentration of it,
they're all different, you know, rattlesnake is different than a water mocas
than et cetera, or brown recluse, different than a black widow, et
cetera, et cetera. Okay, Well, depending on the concentration you experience
things in your mouth, you lose sensation. And it's because it targets the
part of the brain that handles those sensations. And that's what it is.
Go ahead, smell, taste, and smell exactly. So go ahead,
and so just to skip for it, I've been following this guy and through
Daniel, the guy that I met in that round table, he told a
story of a woman who had got bit in on her hand by a scorpion,
and she experienced a certain level in that arm of just weird like paralysis.
You know, the toxin whatever it was, what if obviously not whatever
it was, the toxin from the scorpion caused her to have. So I'll
circle back and and and cover that a little bit further down the road here.
But cross species transmission newly identified. Okay, current outbreak viral pneumonia caused
by this novel of virus the World Health Organization. I'm not sure if it
says anything really relevant in there, but it so let's let's drop down to
the next one here. According to geneticist in China, bats are not the
origin of COVID nineteen virus, and that's January twenty twenty, and it says
in summary results derived them are evolutionary analysis suggest that twenty nineteen h at you
know, nCoV has similar genetic information with that coronavirus has has a similar codon
usage bias with snake. The codon usage right, Okay, cod codon biased
me in its correlates with the origin not so much to bat, right,
but it also has a similar codon, So they're moving in adection away from
that. They're still holding onto the bat, but then they're moving into an
area where it's got a correlation with with a snake. Okay, listen,
Shelly, I'm gonna put you on hold just for a second year because you're
starting to, uh, there's a little transmission issue with you. So what
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a little bit of interference on his side of the call there, so I
wanted to make sure we got him back with some clarity. Hopefully doesn't happen
again. But anyway, back to the story of the venom or the virus,
because guess what, you're making an interesting case here, And I gotta
say, I didn't consider this before, but it's making a lot of sense,
and a lot of the scientific pieces I'm familiar with, not all of
it, but this presentation's interesting. I'm gonna publish that along with the podcast
a link to it if you don't mind. By the way, oh absolutely,
I was gonna. I was gonna suggest that that anybody who had any
interest in this to do that. I can also send you a presentation that
he did in Calgary that just blew me away. Yeah, send me,
send me all that stuff in our Skype conversation and I'll post it along with
the podcast. It'll get out there and people can click at their own risk,
you know what I mean. It's uh, I'll distribute the information.
I can't make them read it or listen, but I can distribute it.
So anyway, let's let's get back to the story, because we're almost like
an hour in here. And I do want to get all the way through
it, you know, And I'm sorry I did derail things a little bit
earlier, but I wanted to talk to you a little bit too, So
you know, I like, you know, the reiteration and things like that,
because you know, there's this information and this is a two hundred and
sixty eight page presentation. So I'm just going to kind of go over some
of the you know, the bare bones of it. Okay. So the
code on usage bias reflects the art in mutation patterns and evolution of species or
genes, so it reflects the origin okay. And so there were more than
one outlets on not on television, but on the on the internet that we're
posting that not really bats but snakes, okay, and so uh we scrolled
down a little bit more to a past the code on usage bias. Here,
let's see, well what I what I see highlighted, Yeah, when
I see highlighted in purple is pretty uh, pretty pretty extraordinary in the abstract.
So so if you see they go down there's a graph there there's with
blue bars. Okay, I'm going to that one, sure, okay,
And it says in summary results derived from our evolutionary analysis to us that the
stars cozy the virus. I'll just say that when we see that twenty nineteen,
I'll just say the virus has most similar genetic information with that coronavirus and
has most slimit similar code on us is biased with snake. And I read
that before, but it shows here here's your uh, this is bungarists right,
and and you know, just you know, snake in general, and
then as it goes up, it becomes less of a connection to it.
But here it says here on sand and help the next slide, snakes could
be the source of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak. All right, let's scroll down
the snakes right, Chinese create Right, the create snake and the Chinese cobra
may be the original source of the newly discovered coronavirus that has triggered an outbreak
of a deadly infectious respiratory illness in China. This winner, Okay, that's
again, that's the men health. We go down a snake snake pneumonia COVID
COVID virus outbreak and China trace to snakes by genetic analysis. Okay, but
did we hear any of this stuff on television. Now, it was bat.
It was all bat bat bat bat bad for a moment, a penguin,
pegolin or pego win or whatever, but bat bat right right. So
April twenty twenty, France, researchers isolate the spike protein gene. Okay.
There's a lot of people out there that just keep on saying spike protein,
spike protein, spike protein. Okay, but what do these toxins attached to,
like they're spiked, what did they attach to. They attached to the
alpha seven nicotinic acetylcholine receptors. Okay. What should be on those nicotinic receptors
is nicotine? Okay, all right, So spike protein of the researchers isolates
the spike protein gene. And there's a lot of people that are so stuck
on the whole virus narrative that they will just keep on saying spike protein when
it is actually something else. It's a protein, and it might be a
spike protein, but they're they're staying on that because it's unsafe territory. Okay,
Snakes and things in venom, that's an unsaved territory. No nobody wants
to be part of that conversation. Especially Robert Malone doesn't want to be part
of that conversation because he's he knows what's going on, and every time he's
asked, he says, I'll answer any question except for this, you know,
this venom nonsense because he doesn't want to talk about what you know,
he needs to deflect away from it. So the nicotinic hypothesis for COVID nineteen
with preventive and therapeutic implications. Okay, I don't know if you know this.
I mean I remember it specifically. In twenty fourteen, there were doctors
in West Africa that were with an organization called Doctors Without Borders, right,
and they were helping with the ebola outbreak. Okay, and so they they
brought them back because they were sick. If you google right, and if
you want to pull something up right now, just to google and type in
ebola and nicotine, ebola, space, nicotine and tell me what you see.
Give me a moment, because you know, blind guy typing. But
no, no, no worries, I'll do it along with you. Okay.
The first thing that comes up is nih tobacco against Ebola virus disease.
Now, one other additive here to throw in is the Italian study, which
was really bizarre and nobody wanted to comment on it. And I mentioned it
on my show and I was called all kinds of names for it. Was
no, not the clouding study. The other thing, which is smokers in
Italy they were finding that they were not getting the illness. That's right,
okay, And thank you for bringing that up, because I was I was
moving in that direction. What's weird to me is because I read it in
Italian, because I can read Italian, Okay, So I read it and
I went, what the hell, why isn't somebody talking about this? Because
what they were saying in America was if you're a smoker, you're actually in
worse shape then a non smoker. And I went, okay, fine,
fair enough, we know what damages your lungs. Okay. But here was
what the problem was. In Italy. They were discovering actually heavy smokers not
as susceptible to this as people that were not. And they didn't have an
ex nation for it. They just came up with the data. They sort
of put it out there. The study I read. They didn't know what
to make of it except that they had found this correlation between tobacco users consistently
addicted tobacco users, you're not getting the full on sickness. And I went,
huh, that's really weird. But it was sort of like ads just
Italians, you know, what do they know? And the mainstream here didn't
want to hear it. And people didn't even want to hear it on my
show when I said it, you know, it's like, oh, come
on, you're just reading Italian crap and you know, but and I'm like,
no, there's something to this anyway, go ahead, sorry, Okay,
So if you scroll down a little bit more, you'll see NBC news
Ebola treatment how big tobacco and the military combined to create a therapeutic called z
MAP. It says right here, a tobacco titan and the US military are
unlikely partners in a possible Ebola a breakthrough. That's right. Uh. And
nicotine. Back then, I was like nicotine what? Like my head was
I was like a dog with a tilted head, like like what, which
is really weird because you know, nicotine is a fairly effective herbicide. Just
saying it's you know, weirdly, it kills a lot of plants. And
things. It kills a lot of organisms, right, and I just you
know anyway, but but yeah, I see the NBC thing. It's from
April excuse me, August fifth of twenty fourteen, gunhead, right, So
have you sc down further and it says tobacco against the Boula virus, and
then it says how the ebola drug z MAP is made to produce the drug
genes and coding. The antibodies are instarted into viral vehicles, which are then
used to deliver to the genome used to deliver the genome to tobacco plants,
and in turn this produces the antibodies from the delivered genes. Antibodies are then
extracted and purified. Okay, this is some kind of something. I don't
know whether that's true of how they did it, but pretty much all these
people would have needed to do what consumes some kind of like oral nicotine or
a nicotine patch. Okay, well, if you go down a little further,
you got the FDA approves the first treatment for Ebola virus, which let's
see, what does it say, infection an adult and pediatric patients Tobacco products
related information. So yeah, there is this link and apparently this is what
helped This is what helped these people not die from ebola. But what does
ebola? Will will will? We'll go over that. So the cobra toxin.
On the next page, it says nicotine may be suggested as a potential
prevented agent against COVID nineteen infection. This is why the people that we're smoking
in Italy and around the world did not get severe COVID or COVID at all.
Both the epidemiological flash clinical evidence and the and the in silico findings may
suggest that COVID nineteen infection is a the nicotine receptor symbol disease that could be
prevented and may be controlled by nicotine. Nicotine would then sterically or allosterically compete
with the stars covie binding, the pro the binding or the spike protein right
right, And the reason being is that these toxins come in and attached to
these nicotine receptors. Well see, now there's the weird thing, right because
this reminds me of exactly how they treat opioid addiction. What you do is
you block the receptor and then the stuff can't get there. See, the
opioid doesn't even get to the receptor in the body. And therefore, even
if you take it when you're taking the these you know, newer opioid uh,
you know, addiction treatments. What it does, it just stops the
reception. And also the same kind of principle is used with what they call
a beta blocker, which people commonly take after heart attacks, because if you
block the beta receptors, okay, in a certain way, what you do
is you decrease the occurrence of the tachycardia that you're talking about. So now
I'm not saying that that's linked to your tachycardia explanation. What I am saying
is that the principle of blocking a receptor, okay, to prevent something else
from attaching to it is apparently an approved methodology for everything from drug treatment to
the treatment of disease. Okay, So look, it's good acting for sure.
Yeah, I'm just spting dots here. Go ahead. This legitimates the
use of nicotine as a protective against stars covie to infection and the subsequent deficits
it causes in the CNS, or central nervous system. Thus, in order
to prevent the infection and the retro propagation of the virus to the central nervous
system. We plan a therapeutic essay against COVID nineteen with nicotine. Okay,
all right, so we go down. There's more kind of shows King Cobra,
that the snake, and just I'm not sure how to make this stuff
out, but this is just more of the things that we're put together in
the two plus years you know, of the research into what could COVID possibly
actually be. Right now, listen, I don't want to I don't want
to spoil all this and take away because I mean, we're going pretty long
on the presentation here. I want to kind of try to wrap this together
and give people the general idea what they should take away from this, because
I'd like them to study this for themselves. This is a very interesting path
of reasoning and connective research, which he look, I'm not gonna say,
you know, like I absolutely endorse all this, But what I am saying
is I do understand it so far, and you're making some interesting sense here
and starting to pull together a couple of these loose threads. Like I said,
that Italian study pissed me off because I'm sitting there going, well,
does that mean that you know my resulting problem I had because I'm you know,
I'm a smoker. Right, if people used to comment all the time,
they could hear my lighter on the radio shows, right, so,
and we could always hear your lighter on the radio shows. Now, I
don't know if you were smoking tobacco, but I do know that I started
smoking organic tobacco on What I will tell you just kind of with my own
story is that I started smoking some of this organic tobacco that I picked up,
and it had an effect on the tackcardia. But I didn't really get
rid of it completely until I started wearing nicotine patches. Because a nicotine patches,
right, and why and why does the nicotine work Because these receptors have
a thirty times more affinity to nicotine than these toxins that attached to them.
So the nicotine goes in the receptors are like later we've got, you know,
the cavalry has arrived. The nicotine connects to it, and it flushes
those those toxins and those proteins into the blood, and then you have to
kind of get rid of them another way. You have to mitigate these these
things. And there are ways to do it, okay, which is,
by the way, the same reasoning they use with the iodine to block the
lymphatic system, and there is an overexposure, what you do is you run
it up with iodine. It gets full up, can't take anything else,
and then the body has to get rid of the excess crap you're being exposed
to, as opposed to allowing it to attack your lymph nodes. I mean,
this is just what goes on. This is the way the body works.
So this is making a lot of sense to me, and now again
starting to make a lot more sense because, like I said, that Italian
study was so weird because it was like heavy and this wasn't like they gave
nicotine to Italian patients. It was just that they happen to go, wait
a minute, there's something weird happening where we have heavy smokers. Not you
know, I have a cigarette after dinner or this kind of thing, which
some people do. I don't know how because I'm totally addicted to the damn
things. But but a heavy smoker like me, somebody smokes more than ten
or twelve cigarettes a day, constantly pumping nicotine into my system is exactly the
person who was not getting as sick or not getting sick at all and chucky.
You know why you're addicted, well yeah, part partially, Okay,
the reason that you're addicted to it is because they spray chemicals on addictive chemicals
onto the commercial tobacco called pirazines. This was a twenty fifteen Harvard study that
said nicotine in and of itself is not addictive. It's the pirazines that they
target and say this is this is what is addicting the people to the nicotine.
Right. Okay, So we've been lied to over the years, and
what I will say, we talked you mentioned that it's very possible that these
these alpha seven nicotinic receptors are all over the body. Doctor Artists says that
it's quite possible that they're on every cell in our in our bodies and our
T cells. Okay, okay, I will give you an example. So
the whole year I kind of had some of these things. I was still
able to work and things like that. But the following year, in December,
I got sick with bronchitis and I was wrecked. I felt like I
had no immune system at all. Why And I'm just I'm just gonna share
from my experience. I'm not saying that this is scripture, but these toxins,
they will stay in your body for up to ten years if you don't
get them out. Okay, okay, And because it is attaching to the
even T cells, it messages with your immune system. Okay, So here
we go. I'm going to read this. This is from page thirty.
It says hid spike protein targets A seven nicotine receptors exactly like snake venoms.
Okay, nicotinic acetocline receptors in HIV possible roles, ring, hand and inflammation.
Now, when they said that there was an HIV element, and this
blew me away because I all at once and he said it because it wasn't
something that I figured out. I was like, they've been using these things
for a long time, and this is quite possibly the reason that people have
HIV AIDS or an immune system that's not functioning properly because they've been using these
frigging snake venoms in vaccines and even the blood pressure medications. There's four or
five of them and they all end in prill p R I L. They
have a substance in there that comes from a South American snake. So every
time these people are popping blood pressure medication, they're getting these venoms. He
also pointed to this guy named Cohen who won a prize I don't know was
a Nobel prize because what they found was that they could with these some of
these snake venoms, that they could actually create a tumor or create a cancer
in seventy two hours. Where are all of these turbo cancers coming from.
I'm going to ask you to at some point to just kind of peruse through
and and kind of like look at some of these things as you go,
you know, when you get the time. But you're going to see that
there are companies out there that are manufacturing these they're manufacturing venoms, they're they're
using them in all kinds of medical you know, applications, Okay, and
they've been weaponized. For my money, the spike protein is these toxic venoms
that are weaponized in a way or tweaked in a certain ways. If it's
ship. Sorry about that. You could say, gain a function. That
was a small fan that fell onto the ground, So pardon me for that.
But this is what we're looking at here. For my money. This
is what we're looking for, and this is the least that the system has
because my friend and podcast partner for probably about a year and a half or
two prior to the summer said they would never create something that did not have
a leash on it because they're not going to wipe themselves out to get rid
of the get rid of the commoners, to get rid of the you know,
you know, the people that they don't want, you know, the
agenda of the population. If you go through this, you know, if
you go through this presentation and again share it, right, a lot of
people aren't really gonna know. I don't really know a lot about it,
but as you go through it, to me, this is what they've been
using for a long time. The HIV connection is because they've been using these
neurotoxins and they also have the blood clotting is coming because from that, these
snakes also have the hemotoxic element to it where they will create blood clots.
I mean, it's all right there. And you heard of the monoclonal antibodies,
right, did you ever hear that? Okay, if you look up
what monoclonal antibodies are used for one of I don't know if it's specifically for
that, but one of its uses is anti venom. This is why it
was working. Okay, Here's the thing about that is that the South American
Native people's and you know, most of the wiped out native people here,
knew that snake venom was useful as a medicine or as a weapon, by
the way, and they knew that a long time ago, so you know,
it's it's not out of the realm of possibilities. Again, I'm not
saying that I've wrapped my mind entirely around this, but I invite people to
look at this. I'm gonna definitely provide a link to the presentation the slides
if I can here, I'll try and download it. Maybe I can just
upload it to my site, uh and just you know, put it out
with the credit to where it came from and all that. But either way,
I urged people to take a look at this. I mean, again,
I'm not saying that this is you know that this is the absolute silver
bullet Shalley, and my apologies because I don't know for sure, but I
gotta tell you this is some pretty crazy, compelling stuff. We'll tell you
hear this one of these other pages, on page thirty four, twenty twenty
one study, Italy's scientists confirmed thirty six animal venoms only in COVID nineteen positive
patients bodies, okay, Toxic like peptides in plasma, blood, urine,
fecal samples from COVID nineteen patients. Okay, And if we scrolled down to
the next page, it says that they again they they these people that were
sick, really sick. They tested their blood, their urine and there and
their their fecal matter. They're they're poop, right, And it says results
toxin like peptides almost identical to toxic components of venoms from animals, like conotoxins,
phosphoe lie pases okay, phosphode phosphoe diasterases, zinc metalloproteinases, and brady
kinons were identified in samples of these COVID nineteen patients, but not in control
samples. Okay, It's like and then there's all. So there was also
an article out of the University of Arizona that said COVID it was like venom
coursing through their veins. Yeah, okay, but again, you know,
look the experiences I would say let's let's look at all this for sure.
This is uh, this is some wild ideas, and I'm not saying it's
wrong. A lot of it makes sense. A lot of this stuff that
is the preliminary things I'm reading through. But obviously it's a very long piece
of work here that you even sent me, and I'm trying to flip through
it as fast as i can, looking at stuff, looking at the headlines,
different examples, some of the graphs. Uh, there's a lot going
on here. So I would say, you know, look, guys,
look at this for yourselves, you the audience once again, and there's no
way in hell that we're going to cover this even with another half hour or
something like that. There's just no way. But this is a hell of
an interesting look at it. And I don't know what to think. I
mean, I know this that definitely there is a weapon at play here.
As far as you know what the purpose of it is, it's difficult to
know. It didn't seem to be the most effective bioweapon because I didn't really
see a huge amount of people dying, although they kept recording these numbers,
and I'm going I don't understand why this is happening. I didn't understand why
they were contradicting even what you know, trust the science, Trust the science,
well the scientists who developed you know, you're supposed magical cure that everybody
was cheering for, was so grateful for, and rolling out the red carpet
and saying, go get your free shots, go get your free this that,
blah blah blah, all of that going on. I kept saying the
whole time, like, what in the hell is actually happening here. It's
like the disease or whatever it is, doesn't seem to justify this reaction,
and if it does, what you know, this seems like nobody knows exactly
what it is. And yet they have the magic, you know, the
magic cure for it. And meanwhile there's this idea with the this doesn't even
touch upon the whole thing with the nanoparticle and what does that actually do?
And oh, don't worry, they tested that for a long time. No,
they didn't test it for a long time, but now they have because
it's been out there among the populace, so now you got some numbers in.
And yet they'll keep telling you over and over again, it's just magically
you know, everybody's got a bad diet through but you know, I don't
recall so many people dropping dead from various uh you know, heart related issues
left and right like they are now. And it's just a continuous struggle to
try and get people to even a look at what and what in the world
is actually still happening. And how many boosters you know, are you supposed
to have had already. That's another weird thing, you know. Let me
give you another example. There was a number of people out there that were
shaming people that didn't, you know, like Howard Stern, Jane Simmons.
One guy in particular, Kareem abdul Jabbar, was speaking out against some of
these players that did not want to take the shot, right. So he's
like, you know, shaming them openly online, shaming them. Right.
So, who did I see yesterday on a YouTube commercial? But Kareem abdul
Jabbar with right arrhythmia. So he's giving a he's doing a commercial for drugs
that are controlling his arrhythmia that was caused by the shot, because what's in
the shot is the same types of toxins. There was also a woman,
I don't know if you know lea Merritt. She interviewed this one woman who
was a very had like lab history of I forget what her name was,
but she was working with a number of doctors, maybe like twenty doctors,
and they got a hold of they got a hold of maybe like twenty five
hundred or three thousand vials from all over the world, whether it was Russia
or you know, whoever manufactured they've got. They've got these vials and they
said that there was no mRNA in them. Okay, And like Patrick says,
if we didn't make it, then we don't even know what's in it.
Yeah. But when you look at the again, the neurotoxic, the
hemotoxic meaning toxic to the blood. Some of these snakes can can cause microclotting
and things like that. And some of these snakes can cause the blood to
get so thin that bleeding starts to occur. Yes, they have all different
effects actually because they have different prey that they need to take down, and
it's effective for them to work with their prey. They disable them and then
they can grab them and like I said, eat them while they're still breathing,
even if just barely a lot of times they're paralyzed already when you see
him, you know, squeezing on them and all that, or actually,
you know, undoing their jaws to take him down. And I'll tell you
something else. Howard Stern just the other day, because we were gonna borrow
truck because we're our vehicles off the road right now and we've been struggling to
try and get a vehicle back on the road. But we borrowed a truck
that had a serious radio in it. So I decided to go listen to
Howard Stern for a minute because I was tired of what was on the radio.
And what do I hear? He's screaming and yelling at people. You
know, I'm so glad that these idiots are going to kill themselves by not
taking the shot, and he's saying, give me all the shots. He
got everything. I wonder exactly what's going to happen though, because you know,
given his history as a public performer, and I used to listen to
him for a long time, you know, I wonder what's gonna happen when
he starts breaking down. Is he gonna make the connection or is he gonna
go down with the ship like this guy who is out there going, Oh,
I've got a hard rhythm. Anow, it's nothing to do with that,
but I got in the rhythmia because there's a guy who I can tell
you is gonna be freaking out the moment he realized that he poisoned himself.
Because he's done, his name should be coward staring. Honestly, God,
he's he sat in his basement and did his serious XM show like a scared
little little dog. Oh yeah, and he and he he is not only
is he a collaborator, but he's much worse. Jane Simmons said the same
thing. I don't want you walking around me like like he's like, you
know, like like his existence, uh eclipses hours or anyone else's. Yeah,
well he's got he's God God's gift to somebody, And I don't know
who that is or what the what God it is, But you know,
I don't mind the band kiss but he ain't that big of a damn deal.
Matter of fact, if he had dropped dead forty years ago, I
wouldn't have given a crap, So you know what, really, seriously,
Jean Simmons, you want to talk about the egomaniacal bizarre world, So they
could have found a a crack addict, like somebody that they drug out of
an alley who can play bass better than him. I play string instruments.
And what he did on that, what he did for that was just so
basic. He's a he's a basic guy, exact because he's made a ton
of money doing it and you know whatever. But but these people are collaborators,
and you know, time will tell, and uh, you know,
we saw any number of these people. You go to some of these telegram
channels where they were they're showing people that doctors and different people that's that that
were shaming people that were not getting it, and and they took it,
and they're no longer breathing, they're they're they're they're no longer alive. So
it's almost like, you know, not instant karma, but karma. Nonetheless,
Listen, I fully support anybody's right to take any toxin drug. I
don't give a crap. You want a snort, broken glass, that's up
to you, man. But you know what, trying to force it on
the rest of us, this is where the crime is in trying to shame
people. I mean, I've talked about it before on this show, even
the disgusting nature of people, you know, telling me, oh, I
don't want my vaccinated child around your unvaccinated child, you know, trying to
get him to socialize with other kids, my little boy, And it's like,
you know what, if anything, I am the one who should be
agreed up here, considering that every time one of your kids gets a shot,
my kid gets sick. You understand that, right, So you know
that's the only time he gets sick. You know that too, right,
you know, but pay no attention to me. I'm crazy. I'm a
conspiracy theorist and all that. Now, time is going to tell, and
I'm telling you now that it may be in the dustbin of history and the
wreckage of the past, which will have to be sorting through someday looking at
it. Go and look at what these tools did you know? Hopefully,
I mean I'll probably be gone by then, but maybe maybe you'll still be
around and others that listen to this, and hopefully they'll have thought for themselves,
elves, and uh, look as we can rebuilt. I mean,
it's taken its toll on me. I I've not felt prior to December of
twenty twenty one, I'm I'm not even I'm maybe like sixty or seventy percent,
you know, because I just I just do not feel right, and
I'm trying to do all the right things. But the thing thing here is
that what I'm saying is accurate. You know, these these toxins, you
know, get into your body and unless you I mean, the longer that
they're in there, the more damage that they do. And we're already sucking
up plenty of toxins from everywhere else. And the psychological damage that has been
inflicted, and the ridiculous look, we weren't doing too well socially with one
another to begin with. We are an extremely divided, divisive group of people
in the English speaking world at all in America. All of that, I
mean, we're at each other's throats enough, but this is a whole other
level of damage. Anyway, Shalli's been with me now for about an hour
and a half, and so have you, And I'll tell you. I'm
gonna conclude it and tell you that you've got to think for yourselves, guys,
and you've got to explore this for yourselves. I'm gonna include as many
links as i then with the show, I want you to continue to explore
it on your own. I'm Eli ocelly. All of you are indeed the
effect tonight billion twenty fifty two zero five zero and hit entered and anybody it's
opened it because a lot of people are staring at me. I want somebody
to come up here and read what it says. Come here to hear my
daughter. Come here, Come up with that mic right there. Turn this
live please if it ain't hot, No, not you them. Let's see
come here to hear chip up here. This is my daughter stars. She's
had to put up with me being gone for four years. Now, okay,
all right, So I want you to read that summary that's up there
at the top highlighted. Nope, the whole thing, Okay, what you
see on Google when you type that in the GBT study product projects, projects,
projects, projects, and an increase to one point three one billion by
twenty fifty, which represents a more than twofold increased and diabetes cases world wide.
Keep going? Is it the No? As a point of comparison,
the IDF Diabetes at last tenth edition also predicted a substantial increase in the number
of diabetes cases to seven hundred and eighty three million by twenty forty five among
adults aged twenty to seventy nine. All right, so they just listed off
that they project by the year twenty fifty, twenty seven years from now,
there will be one point three one billion diabetics on the planet. Somebody do
the math, real quick. Divide one point three one billion by eight billion
that we have right now. Tell me what that percentage is. So I
yelled out, what is it? Nobody doing it? Eight billion people on
the planet. Divide that by one point three one billion. What's the percentage?
Sixteen? Sixteen percent of the entire world's population will be diabetic in the
next twenty seven years. Do you know what it is? Right now?
There's only five hundred million in the world right now, right now in the
whole world, five millions, and the next twenty seven years, they're telling
you as the explosion over the last four years, exponential growth in new diabetes
outcomes. Thank you, gorgeous, I'd love you to see that. I
made my eighteen year old new research say a hard that was four years.
Last four years, there's been an exponential growth in diabetes, and they project
The World Health Organization says it's going to be so bad by the year twenty
fifty, we're gonna have seventeen percent of the whole world is going to be
diabetic. What did you just learn about sugar from doctor group? Did you
know that diabetics because they have excess blood sugar in their body beyond the normal
range? Do you know what sugar speeds in a human body? Or mammal
parasites which include what ecolive bacteria, interrobacter bacteria, fun guy like yeast?
Do you know that of all demographics on the planet that experienced a global COVID
nineteen pandemic, do you know that thirty one percent of all the people that
died were diabetics. Do you know it's less than two percent of those that
died in the whole world less than two percent, So it's one point something
percent of those that died were smokers. Does it up? Do you?
Okay? They are going to create a massive amount of diabetics with these venom
laced plasm Venom causes beta cells to not release insulin, and they can create
a type one diabetic mammal in less than twenty four hours. With king Gope
cobra venom injected into an animal, cone, snail venom injected to an animal.
Bungerotoxin injected into an animal. Oh, they were doing experiments with that,
improving it and publishing it while you were on lockdown in twenty twenty one.
They wanted to know what's our weapon going to be doing to all of
you? And guess what they did in every single one of those research studies
to reverse the type one diabetes that's supposedly irreversible in a mammal, which is
you guess what they used to reverse the type one diabetes now animal within twenty
four hours. They injected different doses of nicotine. Amazing, right, all
right, Next thing, who's heard of this Marburg virus thing? Have you
heard about this? Before we even get out of this conference, they're gonna
be scaring you again with the thing called the Marburg virus. You gotta be
afraid. It's gonna be super deadly. You're all gonna bleed out of your
eyes, nose, mouth, and you're all gonna be dying. It's gonna
be MESSI that's why they say hemorrhagic fever. Gonna be bleeding out of all
your orifices, ears, eyes, nose mouth. You're gonna fall over dead.
If you want to know what it looks like, watch Bullet Train movie
came out the August of last year. The whole opening scene is what Marburg
virus is supposedly gonna look like. The whole wedding party dies. All of
them experiences vomiting, a blood, eyes, bleeding out, and they all
die. The whole wedding party right there at the wedding. The only person
who walks out is Brad Pitt, and he says he took an anti vin
him that morning. That's how he survived. Very interesting, all right,
So I brought my phone up here. I really want to be distracted,
but I want to make sure that what we're going to present to you means
something for the next bull crap they're gonna throw you. Okay, So did
you know that Marburg virus, any bowl of virus, actually get into the
cells of a human or a mammal of any kind through a stuff sense abbreviated
TPC two t p C two and Ebola viruses supposedly, and Marburg virus is
supposedly virus. They can't get inside of your cells and a human without TPC
two allowing it inside the cell. Okay, it can't happen unless there's TPC
two letting get in. Anybody here, tell me what TPC two stands for.
Okay, it's okay. I haven't even cared to look it up because
I don't care. Because the very next sentence in the article reads, TPC
two inhibitors stop Marburg virus, any bowl of virus from infecting a human cell.
Do you want to know what My next question was, Well, what
the hell is a TPC two inhibitor? What stops that? Oh? My
god, it's so awesome. All right, I'm gonna read to you actually
what it is. It's a substance called neuringinin in. You might want to
write this down because it's not in my presidaion. I just listened to Elian
group smit with her be pollen, But man, that stuff's heavy. This
sucks. As Elie said, it sucks to listen to because it feels overwhelming.
There's no there's no cure, insight, no hope in stite self field.
So I wanted to make sure'll know why we're not afraid, because this
is what we do in the middle of the night for all of you,
all right, neringin spelled in a R I n G E N I N.
Do I need to repeat that in a R I N G E N
I N blocks e bowl of virus and Marburg virus from getting inside of human
self. And it's published. You're ready. The next question for me was
what in the hell is neringin in? Now? I'm serious, as you
even heard of this, you might have, I don't know. Maybe there's
chemistnas. I bet you Judy Michaelvitz has a jar of norngine in on her
best side table. And I guarantee you Jennie Smith's gonna come here in the
Q and as he's gonna go like this, it's in p pall you watch
it almost is like one hundred percent of time. I'm not kidding. So
my next question was, what in the hell is nor engine in? I
didn't even have to leave the leaves of the paper because it's right in the
paper, nor engine in. It isn't grapefruit juice. When I said grapefruit
seed acttract, y'all don't forget that. That's because I already looked this up
a few days ago, because I want to make sure. As people were
writing into me emailing me, what we gonna do about the Marburg virus.
Oh my god, I know people are gonna ask about this. I'd better
have some kind of answer for them. Grapefruit juice. Now that's what's interesting.
That movie I just said called Bullet Train. Bullet Train, Brad pitts
the good guy, supposely. And then there's these two actors, supportive actors
who you meet in this like second or third scene on the bullet train,
and they introduce themselves to the audiences and to the train people. It's a
black guy and white guy, and interduce themselves by these names. They actually
say their real name to each other as a character, but then they go
by a nickname. One of them's nick name is Lemon, the other one
is Tangerine. And I was like, oh my god, they're telling you
the answers in citrus fruit. And then in the third or fourth steen,
brad Pitt's running through the bullet train and he knocks over the luggage. Not
a joke. People in the cage. There's a cage in the middle luggage.
It falls open and this thanged, venomous snake comes shooting on goes flying
through the train, and it's in the movie the whole damn time. But
it doesn't bite anybody, has no part in the movie. Just people are
talking about this snake called by name in the movie Boom slank snake. Boom
slank snake. Boom slank snake. So ridiculous. All right, so great,
Preacher. Remember when they said that lucky Charms is a part of a
balanced breakfast, and they would show the grape fruit Marburg virus is a part
of the balancing act for humanity because they're gonna give you Marlburg virus and you're
just gonna beat gray fruit with it, and it balances it all out,
neutralizes their damn weapon. That's how good God is. All right? Next,
did you also know that norngin? And it's so funny. I haven't
even put this in a thing. It's just on my phone. I have
the weirdest phone stuff. All right, norangine and can be absorbed from cooked
tomato paste. There is three point eight milligrams of norngin and in a hundred
and fifty grams of tomato paste. All right, you're welcome. Who in
the hell needs the Marburg virus? Nineteen shot? Nobody this whatever the hell
they're gonna call it. Okay that take away from your fear lost a little.
I go clean your water, cleaning for your diet, and for the
love of God, do what we're saying. Oh, No, Number two.
Remember I mentioned that list of organizations that have failed us, and the
FDA was on there. AMA's on there. Remember that when the WHO,
as doctor Zepslinco called it, he called the WHO the world homicidal organization.
As the WHO published is this paper my daughter just read the sumory of that
this world will have seventeen almost twenty percent of our population will be diabetics in
the next twenty three years. Okay, Can anybody tell me how long the
American Diabetes Association has been around and what their mission statement is. If you
read the American Diabetes Association's mission statement, do you think it says we want
to quadruple the amount of diabetics on the planet and we want people to help
fund us to bring more diabetes to the SIRC. No, I'm sure it
is something about looking into mentioned treatment, maybe even curing. I'm sure it's
somewhere there. I don't know about y'all, but I don't know why the
WHO or every federal agency in America didn't effen fire everybody at the American Diabetes
Association. They have been at work spending billions of dollars telling you how to
manage your diabetes, reverse diabetes, rid the world of diabetes. And you
just found out that your efforts for decades are pathetic. Not only pathetic,
the amount of diabetes is now going to two and a half times double the
next twenty seven years. Who in the hell out there in here is going
to go right now to the American Diabetes Association and find out how the hell
do I prevent this from happening to me? You need to go to the
Healing for the Ages conference, damn it, find your natural path, find
a chiropractor, and open minded empty to take some different approach. Like the
wines are in this room, they're out there. If you don't know what
to do, go pray God. I'll tell you all right. Testing for
beating their venom laced bioweapons my quote, Actually it's not my quote. See
somebody else said it. If geneticist confirms its venoms, and if its symptoms
are identical to venoms, and if it injures like venoms, and if it
kills exactly like venoms, call it spike protein, so no one knows what
or how to treat it. Everyone else that isn't here, that's what they
say. I don't want to say venom. That damn chiropractor got roasted.
Newsweek, USA Today, Associated Press. Who cares? They're trying to kill
you? The Time Magazine, January eleventh, nineteen ninety nine. Look of
the cover, The Future of Medicine. Oh my god, I cannot wait
to find out somebody next week as like symptoms of paralysis in their face and
they want to run to their medical doctors or to the hospital. The Future
of Damn Medicine, nineteen ninety nine, subtitle how genetic engineering will change us
in the next century. Oh my god, Do I have to ask this
one more time? How many of you believe God screwed up when he made
you the first time? How many of you think God put Fiser Maderna down
here so we could change us? Do we need changing? Seriously? You
were made in the image of God. Are you telling me that his image
is pathetic and flaged? Really? Shame on all you. Are you gonna
go to church tomorrow and profess you believe this and then go get a vaccine?
That Biden said you need next week, really really really you really think
you're fat and overweight and have diabetes because you are Geela monster venom defision.
Ye'll pull out your phone seriously right now, do it. Open your phone
and type in the stuff type this word O zempic o z E m p
I C. Let me do it again, O z E M p I
C and the word and G I L A monster? Do I need to
still monster? And hit answer and then open the first thing that pops up,
the first link, open it, and then I want you how to
scroll just a little bit down on the page on your phone and look at
the animal they are injecting or telling you to inject this animal's venom into your
body once a week. The whole reason why you're diabetic and overweight has nothing
to do with what you're eating, drinking, smoking. Letting us inject this
out of you. You are HeLa monster venom deficient, all right, future
medicine. I could actually stand up here for an hour and a half and
talk about this one thing and it would be enough. They have to tell
you what they're gonna do for you. Luciferians have this weird, twisted belief
that if they don't tell you what they're gonna do to you, bad karma
will come later. They have to tell you up front, I'm about to
rape you, murder or kill you, eat you. If they don't tell
you, and they do that, they believe bad karma is gonna come to
them. They have to tell you. It's not a joke. Look it
up. It's messed up, all right. So how are they going to
change us? How genetic engineering will change us in the next century? Do
you see the double helix of your god given DNA? What does half of
it turn into a snake? Oh? My god, all that heavy stuff
Elie was dropping about. It stuck in me having a visual download in the
shower, that this is what they're gonna do to us. I didn't even
see this Time magazine until doctor Richard Bartlett sent it to me two days after
the Watch of the Water documentary brought jomps. He's the one that sent up
to me. He's like, oh my god, did you know this?
No, next question, this is January of nineteen ninety nine. The statement
in the subtitle is how genetic engineering will change us when in the next century?
Yes or no, we are currently in the next century from this article.
Are you sure about that? Okay? Good? This is what they're
doing to you, people trying to do to us virus. This is trump
Okay, I'm gonna do this kind of This could be like two days this
presentation. Okay, I'm gonna go to set the stage here. My presentation
yesterday that I skipped through a little with the last things that was one hundred
and twenty slides. This one's two hundred and sixty and it is every piece
of evidence that is published of how they're using venoms and then the caring compounds
for those venoms. Got it? So if I don't get through it,
don't you go, oh my god. He stops somewhere in the middle.
I'm totally screwed you at home. I got screwed out of my eighty nine
dollars. Yeah no, you didn't. You weren't going to remember this anyway.
You weren't gonna be able to write all this down anyway. I have
been doing this research non stop, twelve fourteen hours a day for two years.
You really think I can give it all to you right now in an
hour? Right? I just needed to make sure you had it. This
is why I had to make sure everybody got the information. All right,
this is background not coolest. Heck, by the way, I have never
seen a wall like this, very president, I love it. And every
time Jenna was screwed over, there was a bee right next to her about
the size of her. I was like, why like a movie. Okay,
virus, this is February of twenty twenty. Virus. The word in
quotes the spread of a Latin term for poison in the article in the Wall
Street Journal. The English word virus is based on a Latin word for poisonous
secretion, and early on it often kept to its original meaning of venom.
All right, it says, early on it often kept its original meaning of
venom. Now when I see that early on, I would think, like,
when did we create language? The English language, Latin language? We're
talking early on? Okay, great, So I'm at the red pill XBO.
Would you ever griff in a couple like a month ago? And this
lady walks up to me, goes, I drove all the way here just
to show you this, And it was this a Latin and English dictionary copyright
top right picture copyright first nineteen sixty three. Next nineteen eighty seven is this
print. It's not really early on. This is nineteen eighty seven. First
half is English, last half of the book is Latin. Look at the
word virus in the dictionaries from nineteen eighty seven. Virus means slimy, liquid,
slime, poison, especially if snake's venom. This isn't early on.
This is like I was eleven when they bring this book. Now, when
you go to the English side and you look at the word poison, because
it says to the right and Latin it means poison. When you go over
to the English definition in eighty seven of what a poison is, it gives
you three Latin words venenum, virus, intoxicum. So they you just take
the virus when you go back to the virus lat definition. Every time.
I'm not joking, and I might be wrong, and I know Judy,
Mike and Vinson put me in my place, but I'm gonna tell you right
now, when they say in Latin that the word virus means Latin in nineteen
eighty seven, is still what it means. And the pharmaceutical industry still love
Latin everything they do, even say it's in Latin. So you think they're
brilliant, but in reality they just said back to you what you told them.
Do you ever see me do this demonstration? You go into your medical
doctor and they're really this, my finger hurts, dock, every time I
move it hurts right here in this joint right there, in that joint.
Yeah, right here, I have joint pain right here. Okay, Mary,
what makes it better? What makes it worse? What's the level?
Great? Okay, Mary, We're gonna do some diagnostic testing. We're gonna
actually take your book. We're gonna do an X ray, maybe a CT
scan, and we'll have to come back in a couple of days and we're
gonna tell you what this is. You're gonna do all this tests, charge
your insurance, pay your copey. You're gonna come back in a couple of
days and you're gonna sit down with your m D. And then he's gonna
go, we know what's wrong with you. What is it? Doc?
You have our thritis? Mary, And you're gonna go like this, Oh
my god, I knew I had something. Finally I know what it is.
It's our thritis. Okay. You want to start some healing for the
healing for the ages. Do you know what the Latin word for joint pain
is Arthura means joint iis means pain. Now put those together to get joint
pain. Now you when in they sent to them, I have joint pain.
And you know what it did. It wouldn't like this he look at
his notes any when Arthur Wright is okay, Now, Mary, in order
to make money off of this visit, we need to do an X ray,
we need to do a CT scan, MRI. Maybe we'll send you
to a rheumatologist for a referral, and then when you come back in like
five days, thinking we're working really hard to figure out what's wrong with you,
we already know what's wrong with you. Do you know that when I
was in med school and then entirebrate school. Do you know then in graduate
school, I was taught that eighty percent of all of the diagnosis is even
medically, and there's medical doctors and here you can tell me I'm wrong.
Eighty percent of the diagnosis is eighty percent of the time come from the history
of the patient and aren't found on any diagnostic tests. Those are called screening
tests. They've been screening in an airport. Thing goes off, does the
screening tests tell you what's on that person's body. No, what do they
do if you're an vander still, they actually try to like take your clothes
off, right, and then everybody stripute down naked and do a whole body
cavity search. That's what they do. You'll find out what the hell's wrong
with you. But eighty percent of the time the actual diagnosis comes from the
history of the patient. You have to listen long enough, ask enough questions,
you will get where it all started, typically just by listening. All
right, So every time, every time I hear the word virus, every
time I hear flu virus, polio virus, west Now virus, Marburg virus,
whatever, ebola virus, you know what, I hear flu vinum,
polio vinum. Why so the Latin definition is all right? This was May
of twenty twenty three. In May of twenty twenty three, Joe Biden's administration
comes out and drops the National Emergency of COVID and says no more emergency.
Therefore, there are no intact EU ways anymore. We dropped the emergencies.
There only exist as long as there's the emergency. And then the very next
week the NIH publishes this paper and people from around the world sentence in me
medical professional students and went, oh, my god, did just see this?
Why do you think they're doing this now? Stars Kobe two spike protein
targets alpha seven nicotinic castal coal interceptors. It was interesting about that. I'm
saying, for a year and a half, yea all looking at the wrong
target, man and an eight two receptors. They're targeting nicotine receptors. And
I didn't figure it out. Geneticists figured it out. In January of twenty
twenty and April of twenty twenty. I just had a whole bunch of people
listening to me, and I brought it to your attention. The stars Kobe
two blaco protein contains a neurotoxin like region that has sequenced similarities to the rabies
virus. Hold on to that and the HIV's glycoprotein, so the spike protein
of HIV as well as to snake neurotoxins, which interacts with nicotinic castel colin
receptors abbreviated in AChR. For the remainder of this conversation, I'm gonna call
them nicotine receptors. Got it, but it is specifically this subtype called alpha
seven nicotinic receptors. I'll call them alpha seven nicotine receptors. Yell, okay
with it. I don't really like saying all that all that jargon, all
right. According to Genesis in China, in this study January twenty twenty,
they published in summary the results derived from our genetic analysis, this news novel
of covid virus has most similar genetic information with that coronavirus and has most similar
codon usage bias with snake. What is codon usage? I mean, I
didn't know. I had to look it up, and has a definition code
on usage bias reflects the origin. Oh that's weird, it's said this has
the most similar code on usage bias with snake, but some similar genetic information
with a bat virus. Got it. Code on usist bias reflects the origin,
mutation patterns and evolution of the species or genes. In summary, I
repeated what they put. I just copied and pasted. What's the geneticists and
scientists in China figured out the first month of the pandemic. And then I'm
gonna do something really simple for you guys. I've put over what that meant
from the definition below and has most similar origin with snake. Do you follow
that? Do you follow how I got there? You know what happens when
a whole bunch of empties don't want to read. You call the chiropractor a
whack job. You call these geneticists pathetic who were experts in their field of
DNA analysis, which they are not, which is odd. This is what
they published. Far to the left is the origin of COVID. Farthest left
is the animal that came from crate snake. On the left, the next
one is the king cobra. This bungerous definition is the Latin termination for that
type of snake, crate snakes bungarous. Do you remember when ed group walked
over there and said, do you see the five die soul five bonds that
are made by this the easter back to back to you. I think he's
a showing remember that. And he goes over and he goes look at that
three different bungaro toxins. Do you remember that bungaro toxins are the crate snakes
venom. CNN then publish the snakes could be the source of the Wuhan coronavirus
outbreak. I wonder I think I might call them crazy like they called me
crazy. This is January twenty twenty CNN top Senate Snakes, the Chinese crate,
and the Chinese cobra maybe the original source of the newly discovered coronavirus that
has triggered an outbreak of a deadly infectious respiratory illness in China this winter.
Then this publication was my favorite. The city They called it snake pneumonia in
January of twenty twenty. Interesting, I wonder why they would do that.
Four months later, in France, researchers isolate the spike protein gene. This
is important spike protein gene of COVID nineteen virus and publish its identical two.
Three things. There's three things are up there, cobra toxin, three little
pieces of the rabies virus, and bungarotoxin. At the bottom you see stars
COVID two s S stands for spike protein, got it, and all the
genetic stuff out there on the right. I don't even want to know.
They outlined to here this is what it's most similar to in identical two,
and then they wrote this in April of twenty twenty, nicotine may be suggested
as a potential preventive agent against COVID nineteen infection because the evidence in the en
silico findings may suggest that COVID nineteen infection is a nicotine receptor disease that could
be prevented and maybe controlled by nicotine. The chiropractor to not do this research.
The nicotine would then would then compete with the stars covy two binding to
the nicotine receptors. This legitimates or legitimates the use of nicotine as a protective
agent against the stars covi two binding to the nicotine receptors and the infection and
the subsequent deficits it causes in the central nervous system. Thus, in order
to prevent the infection in the retro propagation of the virus to the central nervous
system, we plan a therapeutic estay against COVID nineteen with nicotine agents, patches
or other delivery methods and hospitalized patients and in the general population. The very
This is April twenty twenty. The very next month when this got published,
Anthony Fauci and their team at the NIH, the FDA, Joe Biden,
they all went into action. They figured out nicotine was preventing smokers from being
stick with COVID. That's what this entire papers about. Joe Biden, your
non elected president, and Anthony Fauci both went into the media to interviews everywhere,
everywhere but Today's show, everywhere, everywhere the very next week after this
and started telling the entire world there's new data and evidence from around the world
of researchers that smokers were the most at risk for being hospitalized for COVID and
dying from COVID. Therefore, all Americans must stop smoking, and there's no
better time than now to stop smoking to prevent getting COVID. And he flat
out lied to everybody, and they're still doing it now. Just for reference,
you'll read under here, just because I like, I am not a
just talk I like show and tell. The neurotoxin motifs, these neurotoxin spike
proteins, the alignment of their genes found in toxins from the snakes of oh,
the aphacus whatever that is cobra, that's cobra and bungerous genre and I
just wanted to put this up there. Oh, this is what a cobra
is, in case you don't know. In cobra. See that. I'm
want to make sure everybody's familiar with what these words are. Cobras are these
snakes that look like that, and their venom protein was found in or on
supposedly this virus they called this spike protein g This is a spiprotine from that
guy. The other word Bungero toxin they say it comes from this bungarus genre.
I just had to show this. Okay, see, y'all follows.
This is a great snake. Its Latin name is bungarous. Do you see
that? That's where you get the word bungara toxin and this bungarous genre.
You see that? You follow me? Anybody lost yet? All right?
In conclusion of the study in April of twenty twenty, this is three years
ago thirty In conclusion, we proposed and try to justify the hypothesis that nicotine
receptors play a critical role in the disease process of stars Coby two infection,
and a consequence, we proposed nicotine and nicotine agents as a possible therapy for
stars Coby two infection. Interestingly, these scientists say ivermectin, which has been
recently shown to inhibit the replication of stars Cobe two instells is a positive allosteric
modulator of alpha seven nicotine receptors. And this finally answered for them why an
anti parasitic was working for COVID, Not because it was killing COVID, not
because it's killing a virus. It didn't handle the spipe proteins. It was
binding to the same receptors the venom spike proteins target in a mammal. They're
called alpha seven nicotine receptors, and nicotine I'm gonna show you is published to
bind to those receptors thirty times greater than venom and what's supposed to be going
between those nerves called a setal coline. So people that were taking a stetle
coline to try address their septoms and they weren't seeing the improvements. It's because
these venoms bind tighter than a coaling will allow them to actually transfer. You
put nicotine on there, it releases the actual venom and then a seal cooling
can work. More on this miracle quere later, if here's some nicotine patches
safe infective All right, now, you saw that the COVID nineteen spike protines
they also found in this study that they were identical to rabies virus. Oh
my gut. I only did this last week because I didn't really care until
I was gonna do this for you guys. Seriously, I didn't really care
about the rabies virus part I knew that the rabies virus particles were not as
neurotoxic. Blood toxic could sell toxic as venom from a king cobra. Got
it if I had like an aerosol can and you had a baby in the
crib, and I went like this, I have a king cobra here that
I can throw in there, or I can spray some rabies virus. You
only got two options, which would you do? Am do? Give me
rabies all day? So I didn't really care, But now you should because
I found this awesome. Like last week's interactions between the rabies virus and nicotine
receptors, what, oh my god. Here, I already knew all this
highlights rabies viruses spike protein binds to nicotine receptors. Nicotine and genetic deletion of
alpha seven nicotine receptors stops the pathology disease of rabies. I did not know
this until last week, and I was like Oh my god, what if
they found a battle was in your house. You know what they tell you
to do. You have to get a rabies vaccine, nicotine and genetic deletion
of alpha seven nicotine receptors. And I have to talk to doctor Lee Meritt
right now. This is like the third time I've seen this, and then
it's a phenomenal doctor Lee Merritt. I promise she was going to be part
of a presentation this group of doctors does, and I'm gonna call it the
healing Games that she's gonna be the m a joking, there's gonna be the
healing games. They got the hunger games where they're trying to kill people.
We're gonna do the healing games, and doctor Lee Mary's gonna be in it.
She is absolutely right about the genetic targeting or eugenics of this COVID nineteen
bioweapon they call a virus, and also correct about the vaccines targeting specific groups.
She has this incredible presentation at the Red Pill Expo and was able to
show that there's groups or races of people that not only include these groups,
other groups too. But they know about these groups the Amish and Knocknazi Jews
were not affected by this weapon. So for some reason, there's people that
for some reason are okay without being affected by this weapon. Over and over
and over. You see, they publish that in animals, they can create
what they call Alpha seven knockout mice, where they can actually remove that gene
from the animal and the animal still thrives and lives. And if you put
a venom inside of them, guess what happens? Nothing, They just pop
it out. There has got to be some genetic manipulation of these races that
aren't being affected. And I promise if we dig into this alpha seven nicotine
receptor thing, that's gonna be in there somewhere, and that's gonna be the
for me so far, the plausible way that really is true. This genetic
modification stuff is not new. We've been genetically modifying plants, dogs, dogs,
camels, sheep, cows. They've been doing this genetic manipulation for years.
How do you know they're not doing though humans? I don't know that.
To see that video from a thousand, two hundred years ago. Yes,
okay, this is the rabies glycoprotein contains a neurotoxin like region which shows
a significant sequence homology with snake venom neurotoxins rabies. That function is potent nick
scene receptor antagonists. We'll go to the next one. Rabies virus binding to
the muscle type nicotine receptors was inhibited by nicotinic casto cling antagonists up to fifty
percent by bunger rotoxin. So this their study here, they're injecting Raby's virus
and bungarotoxin from the grate snake and bunger rotoxin would bind fifty percent more often
and block Raby's ability to bind your receptors and make the animals sick. So
they're playing with venoms and seeing which one's binder receptors the most. Guarantee you
they've got a rabies virus vaccine that has bungert And now from one's words from
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but yeah, okay, something happened there. But continue on though Menendez
being dismissed or being charged in everything here are you're saying Chris Christie ought to
try and step into that slot that might be his best shot at getting into
a legitimate governmental role again, Huh. I could see no other paths forward
for him to be elected anything other than a dog catcher. I honestly think
at this point he should switch parties the Democrat and try to get that spot.
When when does win Menendez coming back up for re election. I'm not
sure. I'm gonna have to check on that. I'm guessing next year.
Because that's why his party would all come out against him, because they don't
want to risk losing a seat. And I know somebody is. That's how
they do it in Jersey, Chuck. The governor appoint somebody to fill out
the tournament. Then it's an open election. Yeah, if he if he
has actually ousted, yeah, or if he resigns. Right, let's see
which he ain't. He's already said, I ain't going anywhere, just like
you said. He I've beat it before and I'll beat it again. Well,
I'm sure he will beat the criminal churches. But I don't think he's
got a political future anymore. I can't say I'm disagreeing within anywhere. Yeah,
And it also is the reason this also comes to my mind is because
Chris Christie's numbers are rising, but not in the Republican Party and the Democrat
Party. So if they were smart, and he if he was smart,
I mean, they're all the same up there. What's he cared? He
doesn't care. He's just running for president to trash Trump. Hey, wappy,
senators, why not, let's see. I'm looking up. Now it's
terms that end in uh, twenty twenty five, twenty twenty five, okay,
so yeah, there there's a good enough king. Yeah twenty four,
right, but well you'd have to run in twenty four to take office again
in twenty five, I think, right, he right, all right,
next years, So of course the Democrats don't want them hanging around. Well
Finstein, she kind of took care of herself, oddly enough. I'll see.
That's another thing too. With Feinstein out, doesn't that get the Republicans
a majority? Or does that make it actually tied? If you take in
the vice president Thendez leaves and that gives them up two seats, well,
I think they can you know, again a point in California, somebody to
replace, right, that's Gavin Newsom's problem. Now, Adam Schiff wants to
run for that position, and Gavin Newsom can't stand Adam Shiff. So they're
saying whoever gets appointed will probably run, and Adam Schiff will have to run
against the incumbent. So that kind of screws up his attempt to run for
the seat. See, it would have been open if Finestein have retired.
Absolutely true. Well, Jimmy, Look, I late you run over a
little bit because I think there was a little bit of interruption, so I
want to make sure you got in your time. But I'm gonna put you
on hold. And we do have another caller I think I recognize, and
I don't know what where his mind's at. Maybe he wants to talk about
the death of Einstein or Menendez or god knows what. Maybe he wants to
talk about that ridiculous thing they called a debate, or maybe not. Maybe
he wants to talk about the murder of tupacsh coor by the way, b
Pete, did you get an article for that yet? Yeah? Cool?
Could you share it? Yeah? Could you share it with me on Skype?
And so this way, I have something in front of me too,
and I'll let you run run through that. Let me put it in the
room because I'm on my phone and I'm skypeing on the phone. Okay,
fair enough, And meanwhile I'll go to Harlan, who has been waiting also
not as long as Jimmy was, but Harlan open totally open topics, and
we're just going with current events. So whatever's on your mind that's semi current.
Go for it. Bro Well, you caught me right in the middle
of you know that to gage along Arab yeahs, I'd like that. It's
just five seconds deducting off my time and restarted with anyway you know probably Hey,
listen over, we'll restart it right now with me interrupting you because I'm
terribly sorry. I have terrible timing with you. Man, I'm sorry about
that, So I won't start your time until fifteen seconds from now, when
when you'll actually be able to talk. But I keep doing this to you.
You told me I got you at waffle house. I got you when
you were taking a dump or something. I don't know what's going on,
but I keep screwing you up. Wrong timing on my part. So you
go ahead and restart, sir, it's on you. How's that? I
appreciate that? Well, you know, I'm gonna start out with here,
did did I pretty much? You know at ninety eight for saying it agree
with Jimmy on what he said about the publican debate. You know, I
kind of struggled through it. You know, it's kind of like you know,
about to file over the damn seats at one point and hit you just
mind blowing. I don't even see why that Uncle Tom's still in the game.
I heard a reporter earlier this week that you know that black folks that
came over to the Republican Party by like twenty and twenty five percent is what's
poling has been that he's like the lowest you know, own the the the
span. I guess you could say totem pole is what I would usually say.
But I don't know if that's you know, a sign of light supremacy
or whatever, because we growed up in the world, you know, talking
about lol on the totem pole. Well, he's weird, he's not he's
not favored by people that allegedly share his racial background in the Republican polling thus
far. I mean, that's that's what I saw. I don't know if
it's accurate, but that is what it is, right, Well, that's
what's what I want to be saying. That's that's a that's a great paint.
I mean, if you asked me, I mean, is Tim Scott
really a black man? Or is that some kind of CGI? You know
we often hear about, you know, CGI and clones and make up and
ask I mean, he just lonks like a old white suck ass Republican,
you know what I mean. That's that's all I'm saying. And I'm telling
you I know two or three guys just just basically, you know, eight
and ten year old versions of me. You know, they thought he was
a man, you know, a month or so ago that you know he
was the one. But I don't say nothing that you know, I saw
some more of the you know, brown swamy sandwich, you know, trying
to be through out there Nikki Hayley, and he spent most of her time,
you know, bashing back forth between her and Tim and you know,
the poor guy from South Dakota. They wouldn't even let him type when nobody
else wouldn't even answer the question to say the ask, and they wouldn't ask
him nothing about energy. And that's one of you know, the main things
in North Dakota. Excuse me, I think it's a suth Dakota. But
you know, DeSantis is basically he's saying stuff he's been saying in January.
In February. You know, I'm glad he's finally you come to the to
the game and stuff. But what else can you say? I mean,
you know, Jimmy about said it. Oh just what he's out from the
comments. They didn't even watch it. I mean, everybody's sitting there talking
over each other, you know. The host, you know, had some
kind of overbearing bullshit. Pause, pause your time, Harlan, pause your
time for a minute. Here. I want to let VP get in on
this, because I don't know if if DV did you catch any of it
at all or or no? On the debate the Republican debate. Yeah,
I didn't waste my time with it. I know I'm not ok they weed
out somebody is Yahoo's okay, Well then in that case, I'll claim your
time here on this one, because I sat through a bunch of it,
and the only good thing in my mind that came out of that, that
Rami Swamy mess and all that nonsense, was nicky. Haley did use a
pretty old fashioned line, but I thought it was effective and it was probably
the best line that got clearly spoken while they weren't yelling over each other.
As she said, you know, basically, look, every time I hear
you speak, I feel a little dumber. And I kind of went,
isn't that interesting that one of the best lines is I feel dumber. Forget
about why but you feel dumber. You know what, I don't have any
disagreement with her using that line because that's how she sounded. And definitely when
you listen to that guy talk, that's how you sound and feel too.
He was dodging the whole thing about doing business with China, which everybody was
on about. And you know, Mike Pence was Mike Pence, so you
know, yawn exactly. Christ and Tim Scott might as well have been Mike
Pence, you know, because it was about the same thing. It was
like, okay, fine, And meanwhile, like you said, they didn't
let one of the guys who could have had something to say even speak.
The people on the stage didn't, the moderators didn't. I mean I saw
the moderator try and take control that the lady whose name has escaped with me
right now. I remember looking up at the time going, oh, okay,
I know who she is, but she looked a little different. She
tried to take control at the beginning, but it didn't last. It was
just chaos after that. So I'll let you have your time back again.
And you got, let's see, got about three more minutes to work with
and go right ahead, because it was just a complete, you know,
cluster screw. I mean, just complete all the way through. Weok,
go ahead. You know, I want to make something other clear. I'm
not one of these people that has anything against you know, black Republicans or
you know Republicans having black people, you know, runs for offens. My
problem is, and I am gonna say, if people likes it, they
like it. If they don't, say, don't you know this men's howity
we're going to outlive the lives on so many issues is a fucking joke in
the story. You know, go go recruit somebody like Eric July for example,
Go recruit some of these representatives and I wish I knew the guy's name
is in the Houston area, and get somebody like that. You know that
just sees, you know, white washed black candidates is a bunch of shit.
You know, everybody sees to it, you know, like most black
people were sins to it, and obviously you know most white people were sins
do it too, because you know, Republicans has been looking for their magic
person of color since Obama came along. I'm you know here again, if
y'all don't like it, folks, I'm sorry, HiT's a fact. That's
the reason why that you know, a lot of Republicans and stuff like that
they don't like what I have to say is because I was thinking of truth
and I've got the inside based ball and I know how it works. You
know, I've heard this ship for years, But get somebody worth running instead?
Is just swing somebody up there that's hoping, you know, the party
line, and they just so happened to be another race besides white. And
I'm not even putting the ranks want me in that because who the hell even
knows what this guy is even about hearing somebody was saying that he was like
a knowing cousin or something over in that part of the world, you know
where his family originated from. I mean, give me a break, you
talk about we just I had the Lispreads event that flipped and flopped more than
a fish fresh out of water. This guy has been flipping and flopping ever
since then. You know, he's been on the national scene, right and
then he just runs up and says it, I bet eight t f fat.
I mean like, oh shit, oh shit, I mean, please
let me ands. Mike Pence goes I'll wind up this here and I'll hand
it back over. You know, Mike Pans is Mike Pence. I think
you know, he's pretty much like a lot of these oddens, is just
up, are running to be running. And that's just pretty much. I
mean, what else can you really say? Well, I got I got
a question for you based on a part of what you said. You know,
the magic person of color? Okay, I get that part. I
don't see it, but I believe it could be possible. I'll tell you
what I have noted about Republicans for the past like fifteen twenty years, and
it is this weird where they can't find the magic person of color. I
think maybe that's part of the reason why they're doing this. But they're often
throwing women into mixes, not because they're the most qualified candidates, but I
swear it's almost like, see Republicans will let women have power. I really
feel that way. Glad you brought that up. That continue please tell me
about that, and you know, take go ahead and take a minute or
two to do it. Cut it. Who may give me a stive asis
rier. First of all, I won't say it looks like Kentucky has a
real good chance. I haven't a black governor next time, and he's going
to head gonna be better than the Democrat to stire now and he's going,
you know, and from the looks of things, he's gonna be better than
the last Republican that sucks about it the game Kentucky, the Democrat that they
got my offer a governor. I just want to throw that out there.
That's true. But far as about this stamp from the women as or something
else that people go, they're gonna get triggered by and they're gonna latch hump
too. Okay, I'm gonna just go ahead and just say it. A
lot of these women that has been pushed to get empire, that's so they
can have my baching no cards say same thing. You know what I mean.
They won't pick a good woman. They just gotta have of a China
and you know, know, how to make people throw up. And then
it's like, oh my god, they're a conservative goddess. I've said it
before and I said again. You can go down the line naming off of
all they just conserve to conservative Darling's especially on Fox News. Look at third
background. They was left winging and they was liberal. They looked who they've
dated. Lower Ingham's one dated keep overman. You know Frank Wattenberg, no
New Jersey, fucking senator. You could fucking preach on him, I'm sure,
Chuck, and he was such a great American. You're going but anyway,
But anyway, it's the same way, like a second of men,
second, a mimic community everything. All of a sudden, it's always about
a woman carrying a gun. Woman, this woman that people don't give a
fuck. You know, that only goes so far. I'm not saying they
include them, but there again, HiT's another one of these gimmicks. We're
going to outlive the lives by but coming the lives. And a lot of
these women have no fucking principles. I'm not saying that there's not a shitload
of good, patriotic, well man and common sense women out there. Matter
of fact, I used to women had more common sense than men. But
that they have no reason to me anymore, because look at the propaganda of
the last ten or fifteen years. It's so ship We've got that woman just
because it's the same way, like backs and the it gets It really started
up in the in the middle two thousands, you know in my region of
the country. To word it, it was automatically they had to have a
female principle. It didn't make it down I say, was qualified or anything
else. But if you've got a good female principle that wasn't going it down,
you know line, or wasn't done the right stuff to suit this and
or they wouldn't kissing this kid's eyes or blah blah blah the next thing you
know, she was going. I've heard all kinds of stories about that.
How does that fucking work? Oh? You know what I mean? Yeah,
there is a hard core section. U let's have a woman regardless with
the Republicans the same way it is on you know, the Democrats side.
Instead is just looking at who is best for the job. And I guarantee
you they have been a lot of good women that would have made you know,
whether it's a principle, if it's a boss, if it's politician,
would have done a lot better than the man you know in the past.
And I'm sure if some of this goes over mouth's like a lot of it
comes down is who will tow that line? You know what I'm saying.
So it's a lot yeah. I mean, I'm sorry, I wanted,
Yeah, I wanted to make sure I got an extra piece of opinion from
you. I'm gonna put you back on hold, but we're only gonna count
that you had the five minutes because I wanted that extra piece due to the
fact that I'm taking notice of this idea that it just looks to me like
sometimes it's like, let's just put a woman in there for the stake of
putting a woman in, which is the point you just made, And obviously
it's done a whole lot more on the liberal side on the Democratic side,
you know, I mean, brutally, even Biden turns around, I'm gonna
put a black woman in on the Supreme Court. Not I'm gonna put the
most qualified person, Not I'm gonna put no, no, no, I'm
gonna put a black woman there. And I'm not saying a black woman shouldn't
be there. What I'm saying is that if that's your primary folk, because
you're skipping over a whole lot of people that could maybe do the job better
for God's sake. And I think that both sides of the equation have suffered
from this. But Republicans just did not figure out how to get you know,
a charismatic somebody in there yet because Tim Scott ain't charismatic. I mean,
well you think of it too. Just look, I mean Biden pulling
the bit with the Streme Court justice, I mean that was nothing to didn
want to call her reverse racism. It's not reverse racism. It's racism.
You don't reverse about it. You know, when you eliminate how many white
women out there would have been qualified for that position or automatically excluded. He
did it with Kamala Harris. He was she'd left the race before the first
primary in any state. She was that bad. And she ends up the
a vice president because she's black female. Yes, plainly simple, and she
has proven herself to be, guess what, not an asset all the way
around. So you know there, I'm trying to be generous here and just
saying not an asset. But but but it's just that simple. I don't
I don't understand this this, you know. Yeah, like you said,
reverse racism, diversity, Yeah, but it's just it's stupid on both sides
of the same diversity crap it is. I agree, it's stupid, it
is very stupid, But that's that's what we're dealing with in so many aspects
of society to day. God help us all anyways, So be pan,
did you? Uh? Yeah, you got. Let me go check with
the room and see what you pick up on this other thing, because I'd
love to get a conversation started regarding this. Let's see, you've got a
Daily Mail article, so at least I won't get blocked for lack of subscription.
But here we go. You know, for years and years, the
same guy was being brought up by a lot of people, documentary filmmakers,
people complaining family members, et cetera. For years and years, the same
guy's name kept coming up, and finally turns out, according to the headlines,
guess what Tupacs And I'm just gonna read this from the you know,
from the Daily Mail, all right, tupacsh Corps stepbrother slams Las Vegas murder
detectives for taking so long to arrest KEP. D He's been running his mouth
for years in quotes, so Dwayne keeping the subheadline, Dwyanne Kep D.
Davis has been arrested on suspicion of murdering Tupac. Next subheadline, the gangster
or gangster says, but I said gangster admitted being in the car which shot
at the hip hop Legend. In nineteen ninety six, tupac stepbrother called the
long awaited arrest quote bitter sweet end quote after twenty seven years. Now,
the funny thing is this guy outwardly was saying for years, I was around,
but I ain't saying nothing. I don't know what happened. I was
around, and somehow, you know, a god pressed on it enough to
give it up. Weird, they leave it up to the cops. So
and he gave it up to the cops back in two thousand a win was
it? I forget the exact date it was. He was getting ready to
go to jail, and I think the article mentions this. He was getting
ready to go to jail on drug charge and he went in and talked with
the investigators. They didn't have any other proof to tie him to anything other
than what he was saying happened. So about two thousand and eighteen, after
the documentary came out, they got back together. And this was according to
the press release today, when they had the interview with the sheriff, he
basically said, look, we knew we only had once shot at this if
we were going to do it, so we had to make sure we did
it right. So apparently they have corroborating evidence now to go along with his
admission, and now they can prosecute it because everybody it was in the car
is dead. I mean is his nephew who was the actual shooter. He
died two years after the event in a game shooting in company. The driver
and the other passenger. I forget when they died, but I think it
was gang related as well. So he's the only one left that was in
the car. It's interesting, you know he when he did the documentary,
people said, dude, you just created a whole all of trouble for you.
Yeah. But but but here we go. It's amazing to me,
like, what do we know what the corroboration is? Because I haven't seen
that anywhere yet. Do you know about it? Have you seen it somewhere?
You know? They ran they what was it? Back in July they
had a search form to search Keith D's White's house, which is in another
town outside of Vegas. They did the search, they found it to come
shooter took some I think some thumb drives and stuff, took some ammunition I
forget what Cathy was forty five caliber and they've been something else and a bunch
of photographs just stuff like that. There was a rumor going around that they
also confiscated a gun. I don't know if that's one that didn't think matched
to the pullest the full impact or not. Because Keithy D said he got
rid of the car and the gun, so I will know the gun belonged,
and he got the gun from another guy made arrangements to get it,
so I don't know did the gun go back to the other or did he
actually did it right. Well, what was interesting to me is that,
let's see, I'm taking a look at this here September twenty nine. Okay,
so apparently this was updated again today, this article, and I guess
it's it's weird because it was a Friday. Also, I'm pretty sure that
I went to air and I was like, you know, there was this
weird kind of blast headline across the media that said that there was this search
being conducted and they were talking to some of the tupox relatives on CNN and
other places and this and that, and you know, Fizzle Fizzle it went
away, it seemed like. But apparently that search warrant, I mean some
that's a couple of months ago, right, Yeah, so that's search.
Warran must have turned the other warrant. I think the original one was in
July, and then there was another one. I think that they served in
August. Okay, but one of those nights was a Friday night because I
went to Live on the show here and I said, well, stay tuned
on that, maybe we'll see more. But then we didn't, you know,
so I guess this is the more. But a couple of months later
from July, we know, for a long time, everybody you'd go on
YouTube, you'd read these articles. I bet I read fifteen articles and they
were all talking about Yeah Kid says he was in the car, white Cadillac.
It was a rental. Apparently he had to fix it. There was
some damage. I don't know what from. I don't know if they bumped
somebody when they took off around the quarter or if they were actually shot at
right, and but apparently he fixed the car and returned it, repaired the
car, returned it and got rind of the gun. Said that's what was
so hard. I was trying to find the rental car that he rented to
go out there that weekend from LA. So, you know, it's been
a long thing, and I'm sure they knew they only had one shot.
If they were going to go after him, they had to make sure they
had a dead right, So apparently they feel like they've got the corroborating evidence.
Now be interesting to see what happens. Well, it just seems weird
to me that if he's not the shooter, right, they're they're going to
have no conviction here because the shooter, far as we can tell, is
probably dead unless there's something more tunis right. Well, Orlando Anderson always denied
being the shooter, but Keith d has always said that he was the shooter.
Orlando Anderson is the one who was in the lobby of the MGM hotel.
That's the one I got in a fight with him. Okay, Tupac
went after they got in the scuffle. Yeah, they were the ones who
got in the scuffle at the MGM Grand right, Yeah, So, but
he's always denied that he was involved in it. He died two years after
Tupac was shot in a shooting in kipd when he came out. You know,
everybody kept saying, hey, you know he's you know, he's admitted
this thing. He's admitted this thing. Somehow. They were trying to tie
him to the car years ago, but they could never find the car.
I don't think Apparently they have come across something and I don't know if it's
just you know, do they have bullets that matched the ammo that was used
in the gun? You know, did it come out of the same lot.
Because he got rid of the gun and he didn't get the same caliber
gun on your next gun, you still might have still somammo laying around who
knows, Right well, they come two rounds of ammo during the search,
right well, allegedly because you know, still, it's not like we've seen
this stuff bagged and tagged everywhere. This is the report they issued, probably
through their public relations officer, right So, I mean, yeah, and
when they charged him, they charged him with murderer, but it also has
a tag for gang related. Apparently there's a an extra step that they can
throw makes it a little more serious than a fence if it's got a gang
tag, or if it's a felon using a gun tag. You know,
so there's these little qualifiers they can tack onto the murder charge which will up
the number of years. But he was faced in jail for big, big
drug bust they hit him with, and you know, it's it's funny.
He supposedly went in and talked and they tore up the indictment, is what
KPD is saying. I don't know, you know how willing as an LA
prosecutor to tear up an indictment on a you know, a drug charge against
one of the shot callers for a pretty old gang in the area. I
mean, he was one of the original guys. Well, so the calculation
is right, if you can get it, you're gonna give up a drug
guy. If you got another guy on murder charges, or you got multiple
murders, you know what I mean, they do this, they will turn
around and drop it because it's like, well, I can get something much
bigger, a much higher crime. You know. It's Vegas Has. Vegas
Has or what they call him a codefender or co defendant accomplice where he facilitated
getting a weapon. They gained the weapon to another person and thankfully ordered him
to shoot him. So him being a shot caller and that's what you know,
that's one point that they share fore to make he said, Look,
basically, keithyd was was the shot caller on the ground, so vegan individuals.
So in Nevada, I guess you can be charged with murder in that
like almost equal to the shoot In other words, there's no difference between you
and the shooter. As far as the overall charge culpable. You're just as
culpable. And that's like, yeah, something happens and somebody dies, you
can be held just as liable as the person that pulled the trigger. Well,
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But before we go there, I'm gonna turn it over to my co
host Bpte and go ahead, be Pete. Exercise any thoughts you have or
current events you want to bring up or whatever, or we can go straight
to the callers. That is your call, my friend, well, I
don't know. I'm still try to get over this two pack thing. There's
not a lot of stuff out now, and they're not giving out any evidence.
Oh it will, It'll all come out at trial. So this is
going to be interesting to watch. I'm wonder if they're going to go after
the shooter of Biggie Smalls. Twenty seven years after the shooting. It makes
you wonder where they're going to go after this, and I think you can
just see how it plays out. You know, I've thought of something that'll
over the break. PGD had cancer at one time. I'm wondering if he's
talked or worked a deal because his health is bad, and if he goes
into joint he'll have, you know, respect because he's been such a long
time member of the game, did easy in plus pre healthcare. It makes
you wonder why it's happened all of the studies, So get the thought.
Maybe he's willing to give it up just to be able to stay alive a
little longer. We don't know. He's what sixty years old? I think
is an interesting point. Yeah, that is an interesting point because here here's
the deal, right if he gets you know, if they cut him a
deal where look, we'll put you in the slightly less high security because if
you're totally gang related, you know, it's usually shoe straight up, right,
So you gotta segregated housing unit. You're in isolation. And that's that.
But if he cuts the deal because of his health and all that,
and I'll give you some evidence or whatever, maybe it gives him a spot
where he's in a place with a better hospital because the you know, segregated
housing unit, the shoe, as I said, not always the best hospital
wards. Okay, so maybe he goes to the not minimum security, but
a less than you know, triple max or whatever, and yeah, maybe
he's got access to better healthcare that way. Maybe that's a consideration. I
don't know. Oh, I got another headline out there, Bobara Kennedy Juniors.
You know it's gonna announce that he's to be running as an independent.
This is some of that Democrat vote for button Well, and this will match
my prediction that quite frankly, I'm waiting for Trump to swoop in and win
in twenty four. I'm thinking that that's that's where my head is at right
now. I think he's got it, no matter what bites they take out
of his business or anything else. I think he's gonna be in there because
he's going to be the most consistent. And yeah, RK Junior might bleed
off some of Biden, might bleed off a little bit of the Trump side
of the equation, but not as much as Biden's. And yeah, that
might do it, because as I've kept wanting to ask him, and as
I put through in my interview request, I merely want to know what he
thinks is legitimate path is trying to challenge an incumbent president on the Democratic side,
Perhaps there is no reason for me to ask that question if he's going
to run as an independent. And wouldn't it be interesting if he absolutely secures
Trump's victory by bleeding off Biden a bit? I don't know, Yeah,
I mean it could be the same effect that Ross pro head on the election
and take away that Republican vote and deluded. It'd be interested. It's gonna
be an interesting. God, we got a whole year of this to go
through too, yer Lord, more than a year as all. So we
do have a naked news item. It doesn't read you know, it doesn't
involve a criminal aspect of making news, but it is still making news,
so we've got there for later. Oh great, Actually, well we'll hang
on to that and we'll go back around to the callers than any new callers
that join in as well at three one nine, five, two seven,
five zero one six. But until then, let's give another five minutes out
of the fifteen of fame to Jimmy James. So, Jimmy, if you
have any thoughts on the stuff that we've all discussed here, or you've got
something else you want to do, go for it, man, just to
try and keep a current events and we'll be happy to go through it with
you. What's up? Let's me signed? There comes another one? Okay,
well I wish you to butt me in and some of that two pack
action about a half hour ago, I could have summed up a lot of
crap. Here's that guy purchased the murder weapon, so that's why he's gonna
go down. Okay, No, that's fair enough. Okay, So that's
all there is on it. It's just since he purchased the weapon, that's
why he's gonna go down. Finally, he went on, he went on
that interview, and more or less cafess so that reopened it. COVID kind
of kicked everything back a bit, and now they know he actually purchased the
murder weapon, and like b Pete said, there's enhanced charges because he was
a gang member at the time. So that's two packs now going back to
curling, and he's noticed that they were. First off, there's nothing liberal
or conservative about anyone of any color being in any officer having any beliefs.
I don't get world. This is a leftist thing. I mean, one
of them. They're critical race theories. They all got critical theory. You
just got to fill in the middle part critical climate theory, critical this and
that theory. But of course, I mean, come on, this is
ridiculous. I mean, let's compare a couple of these Democrat women, Jean
Pierre compared to doctor Condelisa Rice, even Nikky Haley. Hear her to that
clown that was put on the Supreme Court, who doesn't even a conventional American
history just sad okay, uh geez, seems like there's something else him.
Oh a weird thing. Papell added, an AI bought to my app that's
new head went buying. And the lions are on a roll. And I
wish I could have all talk about the JFK stuff, but just like it
doesn't seem like it's going to happen this show. Nay, Look, I'm
bringing just so you know, I'm bringing walk Around back on again next week,
and I've got John Newman hopefully. I'm trying to pin down the schedule
with him to bring him on, and Larry is also going to return.
As far as the JFK topic in the next you know, ten days or
so, you should hear from all three of those guys and maybe more,
just so you know. But you got something JFK related you want to bring
up, go for it. Well you we never did we never did you
ever get anyone else's eyes? And that weird document about the McComb document,
I sense you. Yeah, I'm well, look I look at it.
I don't think much of it. I passed it around to a couple of
people, and I'll tell you not too many of them had much to say
either. You know, b P, did you happen to look at that
document anymore? Because I know we got involved in other things that night.
Yeah, yeah, so what are you making? Yeah, I'll read over
it. I don't know, I don't put much into it. I mean,
basically, it's just describing that. You know, they were getting up
with eyes an hour and talking with him, and he didn't really you know,
I guess when he left office he just wanted to walk away from it.
But I really didn't get much out of it. You know, I
don't see the importance of it. Yeah, help help me out, Jimmy
James. What is it that you're seeing that's that's a major concern. Go
ahead, it's the very last paragraph that should have grabbed your guys at touch,
and here I'll find it's just a little paragraph. Let's see. Well,
of course, anytime I haven't tried to find stuff. Okay, fumblie
but actually founded. Okay, now we all know it's Truman and jfk let
their comments, they made public comments pretty much, uh, saying they aren't
real impressed with the CIA. At my point was like guys and Howard and
Johnson never did. They snapped publicly. Johnson a little toward like literally on
his deathbed, but not so much. I had no idea they had such
animus with the CIA. So I'm going to read you the end of this
McCone memorandum where he's summing up things that happened. The President then said he
wanted to do everything possible to get me out of this crooken dagger business,
that he was tired of a situation they've been built up that every time my
name or the CIA's name it's mentioned, it was associated with a dirty trick.
He asked if our economic studies had stood up, and I said yes
they had, and that they were I'm having the scroll. Sorry, we
reconfirmed and supported by the exhaustive article and Time magazine. The President seemed pleased
at this express satisfaction and CIA's operations, but was most emphatic in his feelings
that we should get away from the cloaked dagger image and expressed the determination to
bring this about by statements that he would be making from time to time.
So here we see you, guys members this memorandum. He talked to two
presidents to stay. But I'm guessingly talking about LB Jay And at that time
he was telling mcconey's done with the CIA and was going to make public statements
about this coming up in the future. Well, now it happened. Now
here's the thing. I think what he's saying there and the way that I
read it is that he wants a public image change here, not necessarily the
actual behavior of the agency. He would like the public to not be looking
at it this way or thinking about it this way because you know the exact
time magazine for Christ's sake, you know, and what is being said and
when your name comes up and all that. This is all about PR.
So he wants the PR to run a certain way. The first he wanted
to do everything possible to get Rude out of the quoting backer bus period.
Yeah. And it's the next part. And he was tired a situation that
it'd been built up at every time my name or the CIS knows in the
face versus for dirty tricks. Yeah. But see, that's the way I'm
reading this is that I need to get you away from that business because this
is all that keeps coming up in the press. You see what I mean.
It's about that. That's the way to he memorialize that. Yeah,
so to me pastically saying I want you to be what you're supposed to be
centralized in taliged. Yeah, but I think that there's there's a difference between
what the public perception is and what's actually happening. And what he's saying is
I'm getting tired of seeing this come up. That to me means and he
addressed it again about what's being publicly said, even bringing up the Time magazine
right. So to me, it's more about the public perception the face is
as opposed to what's actually happening, and that to be the reasonable thing.
But then again, what is the date on this mental like a month after
he assumed the president suit, right, So why didn't you see those public
statements? Because shortly thereafter, what is he now having to make a lot
of his public statements about Vietnam the overt war as opposed to the covert war.
So his attention is now tied up quite substantially with Vietnam as it escalates.
Westmoreland statements, the people not being happy with this whole thing, the
fact that he doesn't run again in sixty eight because people were pissed at him,
Hey hey LBJ blah blah blah, the chanting in the streets, all
that he is fighting a different pr war. And therefore, you know what,
screw the CIA, I ain't got time for this. I'm dealing with
my own political survival, etc. Go to me, objective. I would
say that Johnson wanted to be involved in changing the perceptions about the CIA,
but realistically, historically he got tied up with other things and was probably grateful
that all of his corruption charges poof evaporated. But you know, I agree,
I agree that none of this happened. I was just shocked that he
said it, and he said I want you out of the folk in deck
or there's some and I think he meant it. And he said he was
gonna make statements from ten to ten. Now, like you said, yeah,
he changed his mind or was blackmailed or whatever. Well, I'm not
even saying he was blackmailed. I'm just saying that his attention was turned elsewhere.
And quite frankly, what it sames to me again, like I'm throwing
in there as a possibility. Yeah, okay, no, no, no
problem. But but to me, here's the thing. You're reading this as
he wanted a legitimate turn from the activities of the CI away from cloak and
Dagger. To me, I'm reading it as he wanted the public perception to
turn away from the cloak and Dagger. And because it's not one thing that
he mentions about Cloak and dagger. It's three things he mentions about public perception
and how it's being said, and when your name comes up, and when
the sea you see what I'm saying. So to me the way that he
put I mean it could be that. Again, this is a memorandum,
so it's a summary of an event. It's not the whole thing, but
I would say that it's from and it's basically, uh, the Colne's Daily
Dagaries. He wrote everything he basically did fit right. So from his things
that I find that I would like to put out there to those who think
that the presidents well normally are submissives to upset, we'll read that LBJ was
going around. He was not a happy man. He was going to go
after the CIA, right there, he says. And I'll tell you from
his call to the Secret Service. This was not a man who was scared
of the bureaucracy. Wait, well, excluding Jack or Hoover, his best
buddy gave a memory thing. But no, this was not. This was
clearly a man in charge, as most pastics are, except for the curve
one because he's dead. Uh. Paulheimer's yeah, well yeah, Well,
here here's the problem of who the real shot Faller is Yeah, but here's
but here's the problem with that. Historically, guess what we know about what
happened after this. They were definitely involved in a lot of other intrigues.
And from that point on, there's a whole lot of CIA activity that we
now know about that Johnson had no clue about. Johnson was not read in
on, you know, a whole bunch of stuff, things that were left
over from Kennedy and everything else. So to me, again, it's uh,
yeah, if you look at historically where the CIA went, what we
know of it, and what we know about what happened in the in the
rest of the sixties, Yeah, I don't know. He didn't seem to
get him very much away from any cloak and dagger. It seemed to get
a whole lot more dagger, a whole lot more cloak, and a whole
lot more sabotage. And let's see what else we could pull off for the
rest of the sixties, all the way into the rest of the intelligence programs
that were being launched from seemingly every every corridor of the government. You know,
all the co intel pro stuff that went on, you know, comes
on real strong after that. I mean, the Black Panthers don't even get
you know, created until sixty eight, right, so you know they're I'm
in the co intel pro Hopper doesn't even happen until Johnson's at office. I'm
thinking it's not like they got anywhere pushed away from the Cloak and Dagger from
based on what we know, even if you look at their official publicly shared
history. So I don't know. Again, I read it differently. You
put a lot of significance on the idea that Johnson might have wanted them away
from Cloak and Dagger. But to me, I read it more as he
was more worried about the public perception and the pr But anyway, let's uh,
I mean, b Pete, how do you see it? Do you
see it any differently than that? Because I want to go to Harlan next
to see if he's got anything ahead. Well, I don't really pretty much
agree with your assessment of it. Just don't put a lot into it.
I mean, look, Jimmy, if there's more connective tissue, by all
means, get it. But I mean his memorandum alone, doesn't you know,
even if it was striking, and I don't consider it striking. I
mean, I get it. We can all read these things and interpret them
different ways. And I've seen people put piles of memorandums together and go,
this is what this means. And sometimes they have a point and sometimes they
don't. They're just seeing what they want to see. I would say,
you need more to stack on this to make the sort of declaration that I
think you're working toward. I think you've got to put a lot more toward
it, and you're gonna have to show, you know, the type of
influence that was exerted during the Johnson administration over CIA. But it seems to
me like they continued pretty much on the same sort of track they were on
before that, and Kennedy didn't slow them down despite trying to transfer things over
to the d IA. I don't think Johnson slowed them down. I don't
think Nixon slowed them down at all. A matter of fact, I think
they jumped up in bit Nix and when it came to Watergate, a whole
bunch of CIA washouts, you know, and Flunkey's showing up to run crap
programs and black bag jobs where they're getting busted on burglaries. Oops, the
guy who trains people how to break into buildings, doesn't know to not put
the tape back. I can't. I can't ever get over that. But
anyway, Harland, maybe you got something else you want to throw in,
or you want to talk about this JFK document. It's up to you,
but all on you, man, go ahead. Well, I thought that
Tapac was alive and still relating sounds. I mean I've heard that twenty five
years though about that? Hey, for all we know Tim Scott, good
Bay Tupac, Tim Scott as Tupac, Holy Chris. I mean, it's
just it's another level of forward day chest. Wait a minute, I'm gonna
I'm gonna restart your time at a second, Harlan, Hold on a second,
Hold on a second. In all seriousness, BP, Tupac Shakur has
decided to become Tim Scott. What are your thoughts? Well, yeah,
there are the theories that he is a lot out there. I don't,
I don't. Yeah, you can't put all a lot away to be Tim
Scott. I don't know if you can prove it at all. But yeah,
in this world, anything is possible. Well, you know, some
of us get older, we get a little heavier. I mean, not
all of us, but some of us, you know, just saying right,
I resemble every one, me too, me too. All right,
anyway, Harlan, go go, go ahead, back to your time.
I just wanted to get be peace reaction on that one. Good, but
go ahead, good. Yeah, but you could tupacs still be out there.
Look, for most of my younger years, I heard Jim Morrison was
still out there. Definitely saw the Elvis sightings, you know, but go
ahead, yeah, Robin Williams might still be king to the to the field
that go ahead. Yes. So a lot of younger about you know,
they probably missed out on you know, all the Weekly World News, the
National quard. Elvis is still alive. JFK still alive. You know,
we had a lot of that back through the eighties and nineties. That really
did started what the early two thousands, yeah, something like that. I
think as soon as the internet got a lot faster, you know, the
the the the certain supermarket tabloid drained its popularity. But Weekly World News,
I think it's still a site online. I don't know. I got to
check that out a few years ago. I was looking at it though,
and they still existed. But by all means, yeah, they missed out
on a lot of stuff. I mean bat Boy and the Return of bad
Boy and the Son of bad Boy and Elvis working at a gas station,
and I think Tennessee at a certain point, right, wasn't he at a
gas station in Tennessee? Not far or well back years ago? A friend
of my dad, you know, when I was in the hunt a lot.
You know, they was like a dial got lost, you know,
during a hunt, and somebody from out of town, you know, skyled
up was complaining and crying about it, and they said, man said there
was another guy kyled here said that he was in Battle Creek message and before
all was working at a gas station. There was something about a gas station.
Yeah, I means, far as the taping goes, I don't see
why in the world somebody would have a couple of the same bullets from twenty
some years ago, you know, on their house. I mean, this
guy's probably moved. I mean, this had been one of the dumbest people
that was ever alive, if he had the murder weapons to if he didn't
supposed to do it. I heard what jim said, I mean, and
I take Jimmy's work for it, but unless he's on tape saying something like
that, and then they can prove it because any of these people has said
stuff, and then the cop still wants you to prove it even though they
admitted to something, you sew them something, you know. I guess we'll
see. As far as about what Jimmy was saying about whatever the hell her
name is, I can't even fucking remember it, held Biden Express Secretary and
Condoleeza Rice. Well, you know, I don't think i'd say, you
know, he is a condolisa right for example of anything. But Condolez is
gonna win today, fou just for the sample fact that you know, Democrats
has always got a sun that much to keep you rode over in the R
category. That's another example of that. So that's the reason why Democrats shouldn't
have suck the way they do. Yes, I totally agree. I'm gonna
say it again, Yes, most Democrats suck, especially these mainline liberals.
And that's the reason why people vote release Commy fucking Republican, which there's a
good portion of our Republicans are scutt b Lin sacks of you know, Griffin
ship. But there's a good portion of'em there, there's enough of them
to count. Yeah, yeah, and you know word Nicky Hayley goes to
take truth about it. She said some of the best stuff you know that's
been set there, you know, both of these debates. But you know
she's a Ukraine lord loving Leo Khan, you know, just warmonger kid.
Seems like, would she big better than Joe Biden? Would I pick her
over Trump? I take a change, you know what I mean? But
I think she's just there for the next cabinet position. He does sound good
on some things, but she sounds bad on other sides. I think,
really except for probably my ATMPs and uh fatboard, there is Christie anti gun.
You know I've done set fucking. We'll just go ahead and say,
you know what, Deck Sutter, you know the that diaster dire I believe
would be worser than body. I'll just tell you the truth about it.
And I know several people to thanks the same thing. That's play attention to
him over you. Oh, I would concur I lived in Chris Christie's you
know, Jersey. I lived in Chris Christie's New Jersey, And I promise
you this, he would be worse than Biden. So I can't tell you
what the hate or worse than anybody up from on that stage. Yep,
I'll tell you what. I'll take a change. I'm Gavin Moson or Michelle
Obama, you know, pulling playing a crown. I don't give a us.
It'd be better than you know. I mean, you can just look
it down. So third time, Oh my god, you know Harlan is
killing a VP. Are you hearing this? Oh yeah, that's I'm gonna
be monetized. No, not at all. We're gonna have to put the
explicit on this one to go. But I thought, I thought this is
great speets. Now, like you know, two or three weeks you say
whatever you want to you can't. You can't, Harlan, no problem.
It's just funny. I'm just laughing. Good, I'm laughing at all what
you're saying, not even just the language and the whole thing. It's just
hilarious to me. But go ahead, I got I got a story to
telling. Another minute or so good, I've got I've really got to say
that. You know that these debates have they've just been a mess man house.
You know, they've not been worth a shit Uh, you know,
I wish that, you know, DeSantis would have done better than you know
what he has, but he run hid in the basement. You know,
he acts like this. Basically he was gonna be running for governor of Florida
again in two years, is running for president of the United States. You
know what I'm saying is that is what that I've got through. I like
a lot of stuff that he says. I know, you know a few
of his negatives and stuff, but you know, we made another generation of
people, not only you know, just in big time politics, but I
also at the state and the local levels. You know, I will say
that I feel like that, you know, Generation X is basically just been
a placeholder. Uh you know, into the millennials take over. We can
show up Boomers. We have not shown up across the board politically. Yeah,
I know that. And that's my generation. That's that's that's mynd taking.
And yeah, I don't want to hurt anybody his feelings. But let
me tell you something. Just because you know your your age has got a
six in front of it, that don't mean you a boomer. You can
want to boom all day, you can be boomer by proxy, but you
know, my government education said the baby boom was taking a nose dive and
like nineteen fifty eight and it's pretty much over the nineteen sixty. I mean,
I know a lot of us in gen eggs, you know what we
look like? Shit, you know you buy stro one who raised us.
You know, I'll throw at it there, but when it really comes right
down foot, you know, there's a lot of folks and they and they
keep and it's something else hope Chuck gives me. And I think a lot
of people will you know what we're like ester Paris that they keep easing world
boomery up. You know, we're up to sixty four or five six.
Next thing, you know, I think, you know, world boomery is
gonna become a basically an age, Brackets says a generation, because you know,
like why do they keep moving? You know the years of is this
going to be like some extended World War two survivor situation that we're going to
milk this to death? And I'm not able to you don't say I have
to, you know, throw that in there, because some of the best
wisdom that I've ever collected my life has been you know, from boomers but
you've got this one year core section, this making hims alive, and then
you've got the want of booms, the mini booms, you know, I
mean, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you the answer to this.
I think they're expanding the boomers forward into our territory, the X territory,
and they're expanding that other group backwards. And they're trying to just eliminate
us all together and say, nah, there wasn't no X because it just
goes from boomer to millennial. I think that's where they're going. Example,
I'm sad I'm not the only one you're like, I mean, I know,
I think stuff. You can go google this buff Darius. Some of
this. It's got like people that's supposed to be like fifty four and fifty
five. Now I'm almost shorty five. I'm like on tell energen X and
it's like the millennials. See it's nineteen eighty sometimes then sometimes it's nineteen eighty
five. There's always gonna be some blend though most people. I know,
most of my friends my boat life has been boomers. You know, I've
had more boomer free than what did I ever did? Gen X friends.
But I'm just saying, you know, this is like some other things that
we won't get too deep in, but like what pon it, they just
keep extending it out, drawing people in. And I don't know if I
have to keep putting people in to keep the gimmick going or what. And
I just don't understand, you know, And and I'd like to be paid
to come in on this. But I think there's in some show a while
back what he was talking. He's sixties one, two or three or someone
we're in there, if he considered hisself a full bone boomer or what.
But I don't understand all these people in their mid fifties and early sixties now
is reaching for that golden ring of world boomery when they really ain't and really
and truly in an upper boomery, those that would be in the upper sixties,
you know, is what I caught below in boomer You get these upper
seve mid upper seventies, you know, people that's in their eighties now and
everybody that's you know, if there's somebody out there, you know, eighty
five nineties. See, they're silent generation. But my overall point is,
I don't say what the lore is that keep expanding the boomer gimmick, except
bo or some that just that makes them feel good. You know, they're
embarrassed of you know, some Generation X, and they just want to keep
the gammick going in GENM. You know what I think. Yeah, I
think that's exactly it. I'm gonna I'm gonna leave you there for Szach Harlan
because I want to let me Pete comment on it, and then I'm gonna
ask you a question about if I ever told a certain story on the show
or not. But what are your thoughts about that, the boomerism and how
it seems to be expanding and expanding in the millennial time period and uh squeezing
out Generation X, like is what I see. But what do you think
about that? Well, I don't know. It seems to me Generation the
X was squeezed out. I mean, that's if you want to use it
as the euthanism I've I'm on the I guess, the tail end of the
boomers. I'm saw the sixty three been a you know, a month or
two, so we're on the tail end of the baby boomer. In fact,
I rememberably the list didn't even include people born in nineteen sixty. But
yeah, they started carrying it over into the early sixties, and I guess
it was they were waiting around to come up with a bamee for the next
generation. But you know, the Baby Boomers, that was a couple of
generations in there because they were you know, after the wards at forty five.
But where was the war over whistee? That's what I thought the deal
was is it's like this ten or twenty year period at most, right where
you have people born a generation it was twenty years. Yeah, well,
but but it's this period where they were born because of the returning soldiers from
the war. Right, So where does that start? Does that start like
nineteen forty two, or does that start forty five? Where do you start
it? Okay? And then where do you end it? Okay? If
it ends mid sixties your aged here, yeah, tail end baby Boomer,
but that means mid sixties or so you gotta start X and you gotta go
up to like say eighty five, right, say sixty five to eighty five
is your generation X? Okay, That's what I always thought, But I
keep seeing these things like he is where it's just like no, now nineteen
eighty. I'm a millennial. What, No, you're not, you know.
Nineteen seventy I'm a baby borner. No you're not. You know.
By nineteen seventy, the World War Two returning soldiers was not the factor anymore.
Sorry, it wasn't you know what I mean, because it was their
kids that were going to Vietnam. But right, because if they were born
by you know, forty five fifty somewhere and there, then that means they're
eighteen and nineteen sixty eight at the highest concentration of eighteen year olds right in
Vietnam. So that makes perfect sense if they were born by nineteen fifty or
so. Anyway, I don't know what to make of it. I really
don't accept. I do see this that it's like Generation X ving kind of
squeezed from both sides. You know, they're expanding boomers, expanding millennials,
and then going, yeah, that other thing. Maybe it is the embarrassment
to being part in Generation X that you know, we were the apathetic generation.
We didn't have anything we had to fight do. Okay, cool,
but you know, own the territory. I mean, this is a social
psychosocial group which does come together with certain shared experiences and realities and each generation
it does recognize that, you know, we have commonalities there during certain time
periods. Now, the story I was going to ask you about to be
Pete unless you want to comment more on the generational squeeze, and I owe
Jimmy Gabes a whole time. The only thing I could add is, you
know, the biggest thing to you had to go through I guess was disco.
I mean that was the worst thing to hit well, really, that
was the most traumatic thing that I think they had to go through, was
the Disco era. Other than that, what else went on? We were
by the Cold War? There was nothing going on around the nations. I
mean, you know, we were trying to put we were trying to bury
Vietnam, so that didn't have to be taught. It's like it's like the
I guess Generation X was the avoidance generation. Well as you always tried to
deny Vietnam. Yeah, if you think about it, you know we tried
to aide avoid any kind of social upheaval. There was nothing really, I
mean, what was the nineties was the generation of greed or the year of
the Decade of greed, So you had you had these people starting out going
from Disco to to Wall Street, and that was the two big things that
really went on. I don't know, it's it's like a lost generation.
There's really nothing there. Well a lot of cocaine, did we begin with
the little races? Well, a lot of cocaine ain't really erase it.
A lot of drugs, a lot of cocaine especially, and you know,
a whole lot of We had to deal with the fallout from our parents coming
home from NOAM. I mean our fathers, our uncles, our grandpa,
everybody coming home from NOAM from sixty five to seventy six, you know,
I mean X had I would have to say, I don't know the end
of the baby boom, end of the baby Well, I'd have to say
Generation X, starting from the time they were born, had the best drugs
because by the time Generation X was over with, you're looking into what the
eighties, the mid eighties. Thanks for winding down. When did AIDS come
out? What was the big bus through on age? What year was that?
Well, it's right in there too, if it happened. The crack
explosion and the AIDS explosion are only within a couple of years of each other.
So you know. Yeah, so see you went from you went from
the heyday of hate ass Ferry to basically a wool threat. Yeah, sex
went. I mean people's sex lives completely changed once AGS came out based on
what the government was saying and the problem that they were trying to make it
to be. You know, that's back when they were predicting that NAGS it's
gonna wipe out not only the game community, but the heterosexual community as well.
Oh, it was gonna wipe everything. The only thing about it.
And you were listening to Filety back then. So I mean to take that
talk about something coming around the bike and yance later on. No, absolutely
true. So the story I was going to ask you about is if I
if I ever told you about my experience with Elvis in New Jersey? Did
I ever bring that up on this show? I think I told that story
partially on Aaron's show. Did I ever tell you the story about Elvis in
New Jersey? I've not heard it. No. Okay, So I lived
in a town, and I'm gonna get back to Jimmy James in a minute.
I'm gonna try and tell this a quick form, real fast. I
lived in a town called Ocean Grove. For a while, it was where
I got my first apartment. Okay. It's right next to Asbury Park.
It's on the shore in New Jersey. Okay. Anyway, there was like
a group home there for let's just say, people with all sorts of mental
problems. It was controversial. People didn't want it in the neighborhood. Okay.
Anyway. There was this guy that lived there, and I knew some
of these guys, and there were interesting characters that would wander around the streets
of Ocean Grove, which I lived in. It's a small town. It's
a weird little place. If you look up Ocean Grove. They used to
shut the gates on Sundays. You couldn't even drive a car and there on
Sundays. The land is literally owned by I think the Methodist Church. It's
where they hold the camp meeting Association get togethers with the tents and all that
in the tenth City in Ocean Grove. Okay. Anyway, it's a weird
place. But they had this group home for these guys. And there was
a guy that used to come up to me all the time. When I
was you know, I was nineteen. I need you know so. I
mean, I'm musician, long hair, heavy metal guy, looking kind of
like a biker. But some people might say I looked like a rock and
roll guy. And definitely this dude that we all knew as Elvis look a
lot like a fat, bloated pork chop, you know, sideburns, having
Elvis not dressed well. But other than that, he almost thought this could
be what Elvis looks like. Anyway, he would walk up to me all
the time, and apparently other people too, and this, this is what
I would hear. Hey man, hey man, you know I'm the Elvis.
Man. You gotta help me. You gotta help me get out of
here. These people are trying to keep me here. You gotta help me.
Rock and roll man. I know you, I know you know me.
You know me. I'm the Elvis. Okay, this dude would do
this to me all the time. I give him a cigarette, I give
him a couple of bucks if I had it, I buy him a piece
of pizzas. Sometimes I was nice to him. Other people used to reak
out on him. I think he got assaulted a couple of times. I
saw him get taken away in amules. This it was weird, weird situation.
But he was just like this guy who would wander around and yeah,
he would ask for help. You gotta help keep me out of here,
to other people I heard. But he kept coming up to me a lot,
and it was always the same thing. And it was like he didn't
remember the last time he talked to me. Every time he talked to me,
but he just every single time. Hey, man, I'm the Elvis.
You know me, man, rock and roll? Rock and roll?
I know you know me. I'm the Elvis. You gotta help me.
They're trying to keep me here. Okay. Anyway, one day I gave
him some money. I gave him some cigarettes. I don't remember what I
gave him. I gave him a few things and he went away and I
said, look, man, I don't know how to help. He had
got to tell me what you want me to do. He didn't have a
solution, just that they were trying to keep him there and he needed my
help and he couldn't tell me how he needed my help. So either way,
I was just humoring him and mind him. He didn't really bother me.
Wasn't like I was afraid of him or nothing. Other people were.
But anyway, he apparently approached somebody else and they freaked out out him,
starting screaming at him and all this other stuff, and he just fell straight
down on the ground one day, a couple of minutes after I handed him
a bunch of stuff and he went to talk to somebody else. Anyway,
guys splayed out on the ground like you know, full on spread eagle arms
and legs. All that bit ambulance came for him, picked him up,
took him away, and I never saw him again. But I gotta tell
you it was a weird thing because I kept, you know, seeing in
those tableaids Elvis has spotted here and there, and I kept waiting for somebody
to take a picture of this guy and send it in because he did kind
of look like him if Elvis was really heavy and bloated. And you know,
by the time we're talking nineteen ninety, I mean, he was not
looking good. He had lots and lots of gray hair. But Store just
seemed to try and maintain the do the big old porch shop sideburns. But
I don't know, maybe it was ten times this guy comes up to me,
Hey, hey man, you know who I am? Mom? The
Elvis. I'm the Elvis man. You gotta help me rock and roll,
rock and roll. I know you know me, yep. So anyway,
I leave that to your own judgment out there. Are you listening, and
maybe you've encountered Elvis somewhere in your life. But I felt really weird about
the guy that I saw in the nineteen nineties in Ocean Grove, New Jersey.
So with that, I'll go back over to Jimmy James and because I
know I owe him some time, and then be pete whatever it is you
want to discuss for a few minutes, and then I think we'll pretty much
conclude the show after a little bit because we're about through two hours. Well
not quite because we started a little late. Let's see what is the actual
time. Well, by the time I get through to letting Jimmy James talk
and then uh, letting you run through whatever it is you want to run
through, depending on what Jimmy brings up, who knows where it'll all go.
But maybe we'll get back around to Harlan too. I don't know,
let's see what happens, but I know I owe Jimmy some time. So
Jimmy James I don't know if you got any thoughts on any of the stuff
that was discussed so far or since you were last on. But there you
go. There's your your your third rejoiner into the show. Right. Oh
I got good timing with you too. What'd you do to take a rip?
Did I catch you? Did I catch you hitting a song? Drinking?
Oh? Okay, all right, man, two minutes. Come back
to you in like two minutes. I feel like, okay, I'm gonna
come back to you in two minutes. There you go, be Pete.
Anyway, any comments on my story or anything else, it's all on you
until we go back to Jimmy James in a couple of minutes. How about
that. That's fine. Oh yeah, I've got our naked news. This
little tidbit caught me by surprise, but then I figured, well, it's
the Brits, so you know, you kind of expected the foreign norms that
they are British. New show. Yes, there's a new show called Naked
Attraction, and it's simple Contestants on the dating show should start relationships where a
good date often ends naked. So now there's a big debate about this new
show. Now I don't know I guess until HBO Max. I'll have to
check it out and see what's going on since I have HBO Max, and
uh yeah, HBO Max. Is it a British show or is it an
American show? Yes, not the British show. And basically, I guess
the guys. I'm trying to look and see how the thing works. But
yeah, they're doing I guess it's like the dating game, only you're naked
when you ask questions at all. Well, I gotta be honest with you,
that sounds to me like a hell of a lot of fun. Says
here. The US trailer asked viewers what do men and women really find physically
attractive. The chooser will then window down from a pool of six potential dates,
whose fully new body parts are gradually revealed standing in colorfully lit glass booths.
Some are eliminated based on their genitals or chests, and then eventually face
for parody. The chooser also strips down, with their own naked body critiqued
by the final candidates. The winning pair then go out on a date fully
clothed. I gotta say that sounds like a lot of fun. Again,
what do you think? Oh, I don't know. I think I'd rather
see the naked weather Lady than a naked version of the Dating Game. I'm
just not sure, you know, especially when you look at some of these
past people that were on you know, I never did Peewee Berman was on
the Dating Game. You know, you give compensiants like that, you could
really have some weird situations. Okay, yeah, fair enough, But I
mean it just sounds to me like an interesting piece of intrigue and cuts to
an interesting part of the chase where I mean, let's be honest, there
are certain deal breakers most people have in their minds. It's funny, this
shuttle this show is in its seventh season and we're just hearing about it because
it's going on on HBO. Max. No, that's great, but I'm
saying, look, let's be honest again. Okay. Yeah, it was
the most popular with the millennials both board around nineteen eighty one to ninety six.
Okay, now that is strange. That is strange. But you know,
here I go Generation X one more time. I gotta say it sounds
good to me because there are deal breakers. Good. I want to get
to this. I'm serious, I need to get to this. There are
deal breakers to be pete. There are certain aspects of somebody's body that you
know what you're looking at a woman. There's certain things where it's like,
you know what I can A lot of things are multiple choice, but there
are certain things that it's like, no, nope, I'm not putting up
with that, okay. And if you got to see that in a preview
before you ever even went out on the date, hell, that's a big
time saver. You know. If there's something that is just completely repulsive,
I mean, it's such a disappointment when you, you know, go through
the process and you you know, supposedly get to that point where you can
get naked, and then you go, oh, you know, it's like
unwrapping the Christmas present that somebody you know got from the back alley and there's
a brick in there instead of a VCR. It's a problem. And well,
I don't know that it's a problem if you look at it from the
aspect of like a cooking show where they give you a list of ingredients and
you've got to make something out of it. You know that mystery is there
until the time that you finally do get or naked, and then you make
the best of what you've got. So I don't know, this is weird,
But they are commending this show because it has broken a lot of social
boundaries. They've had transgender contestant, non binary contestants, and disabling contestants,
so it's pretty much a hit. I can't believe it's taking this long for
us to hear about it. On this side of the plot. Well,
I don't know. I guess I'm a weirdough I just see it as I
could get my deal breakers out of the way real quick, where it's like,
oh, I know who I need to disqualify now, and they don't
go out even get that much naked. But either way, you get to
a certain you got to think about it, think about it carefully, seriously,
guys listening, there is a certain this or that you can't tolerate,
you know it. It's one thing, or it could be Look, I
don't know. Look, I could talk about my own bad memories and say
on occasion, there could be a scent. On occasion, there could be
one particular physical attribute where you're like, look, you know, i'd rather
you didn't have a leg than your leg looks like that. Okay, I'm
just saying, well, I don't know, you can you know, you
go. God, Now you got me thinking back of all the women that
I have gotten naked over the years, and they were all different. It
wasn't like one type. So I don't know. Maybe I'm like I like
the I like the buffet or the smom type. But boobs, I mean,
I've never gotten bet a boob I didn't like. Okay, so type
of variety is one thing. Okay, but let's just say, you know,
it's not about type of variety. Okay. Surgical scars, if there
are way too many of them, it could be way too distracting, you
know what I'm saying. And I know that sounds all kinds of shallow and
whatever, but I'm just saying, maybe there's a an amount of hair on
a woman's body that is too much. Maybe there's you know what I'm saying,
There there's something too much acne. Whatever it might be, there's gotta
be stuff where you're just like, you know what I'm at, come up
with ways to work with that. If there's a lot of acne, you
sit there and you you know, you visualize connecting the dots while you're you
know, it's probably like thinking about baseball, it'll make it last longer.
But you take advantage of the situation in front of you. Not I mean,
but you have set deal breakers. There aren't those out there that don't
have deal breakers, and they're gonna go with the flow and see what they
can, you know, make the best of a situation. No, that's
cool too, And I don't I don't deny anybody's there. Well, I
don't deny anybody's in a bit, but I mean, there is almost certainly
something that is just how about what? Okay, I'll work with it.
Even if I didn't notice that she actually has a full on mustache, You're
okay with that. You didn't, you didn't get to see it because whatever
the circumstance was, But now you see, you know, it's Billy d
Williams over there. Okay, it's it's it's a situation with the mustache.
That's not a deal breaker for some guys, I know, but they though
a lot of women, a lot of women, though they with the way
they wear makeup or where they do their hair, can look totally different than
they do the next morning. You know, there's been some women that I'm
going to bed with and give. Next morning, you look down and the
pillow case looks like the shrouded turn. They're wearing so much makeup. So
you just make the best. I don't know. Maybe I'm an optimist of
this. You make the best of any situation. But the question I've got
is they pulled people that watched this show, and so many admitted that they
watched it, and so many admitted that they actually liked it. I'm curious
why they didn't answer the question how many others who would be willing to be
a contestant. I would be curious to see what that number is. Hey,
look, i'd be all for that too. That would be a great
number to see. I'll tell you what I think. It's now a perfectly
appropriate time to go back to Jimmy James, because it's been more than two
minutes. So Jimmy, maybe you see things different than go ahead. Yeah,
I'm not getting into that crazy macnabus. People should be kicked in.
They're closing. Okay, all right, fair enough. If that's the way
you see it, that's my jack, that's the way I see it.
Cool, There you go, It's just come on, we're just getting back
munch closer to Idiocracy the film, Well, we haven't quite gotten to the
movie theater. We haven't quite gotten to the movie theater showing the film ask
yet, although I think it'll be coming. So that's pretty close because there
probably all right, there's some channel out there because he was watching it.
I'm sure there's a rotary channel. But I'm sure it's sir, maybe,
but I'm associate. Yeah, yeah, this this general interest thing. I'd
like to tickle that a little bit, I think. Okay, of course,
wicked PDAs claims that it's nineteen forty five to nineteen sixty five right now,
which is stilly. Of course. Originally the baby boomers were just what
you would think the first several years after the war, and then they kind
of kept pushing that out. And my personal rule is, if you can
remember the JFK assassination, you're a baby boomer. If you remember the Ronald
Reagan assassination, you're in a generation next sor. But but that's sociology.
I mean, it's an actual sign. So it does change based on newly
acquired information, well, newly acquired information right now, yeah, newly acquired.
But you know what the argument is, But you know what. The
interesting just real quick. The interesting argument for nineteen forty five to sixty five
is that even though you identify that generation by the Baby Boom, it doesn't
necessarily mean the whole generation is covered by it. So you could say that
that's just that twenty year period that encompasses the Baby Boom, just like the
X generation is that twenty year period that encompasses the X the nothing. Nah,
But that's where there's disagreement. No, no, no, no,
Generation X stops. You have to be born before nineteen eighty. Why because
we have nothing and the way we grew up in people in nineteen eighty born
in the eighties grew up nothing to life. I mean they went to graduated
in after the digital revolution. They went to school with cell phones, Internet,
all that crap. That jump existed when we were in school. So
I think there's a huge, huge, huge they that's not correct there the
way they got that it should be. I think Wikipedia has it's said at
nineteen eighty, which would be right at state four in eighteen eighty. Well,
then why do we lose fifteen? Why do we lose five years?
Everybody else gets twenty, we get fifteen, Because if it goes from sixty
five the end of the baby boom. Then you've only got fifteen years in
nineteen eighty. Well, here's another thing I wanted to point out. We
are a proct generation. Contrary to what we heard the other Jade generation acts
says just about zero full and politics. They talk about descantis. He's a
millennial. He's not even a freaking Generation X, right, I mean,
we don't have we just I don't know. I've always felt that our generation
and the Forgotten generation have a lot in common, and it just keeps getting
more and more like that. We're actually the World War Two generation and the
so called Forgotten generation or Quiet generation. Remember they kind of know dif into
one deal. And that's the way these crazy millennials and xers they're looking at
us. I guess we're just kind of blent. But it's such a such
a big, more huge difference, Like you said, I mean twenty years.
I mean literally, these are our parents. These weren't our older brothers,
right, So I think they're off on that. I do think it's
should probably start for Generation X earlier an end earlier, to be more accurate.
I'm just if I could see going sixty to eighties, that would make
sense. But you gotta give us the twenty years, that's all I'm saying.
Well, they don't gotta give us much, shark, because we're not
many people. We're apparently a very small person of the population. And believe
me, nothing would have gave Speaker Pelosi more prosures than man in that gamble
straight to AOC. Yeah, just skipping us all together, right, No,
no need to bother with us at all. I mean, that's really
what it comes down to. Oh yeah, yeah, what do you think,
Bpete? Is that about right? I mean, I still got Jimmy
on the line, But what do you think? I agree? I agree.
It's it's I've never really paid attention much to which generation it is because
I can never keep restrain. But you know, it's it's amazing what you
see though, and each if you take from the end of the war,
you look at each twenty years segment as to what was going on, what
was the pivotal event during that twenty years, you know, it can march
somebody's lifetime. I mean, you think about it. We're now just over
twenty years since you know, nine to eleven, and a lot of a
lot of young people today they have no concept of what it was like before
then. You know, they're used to afterwards. The security. You know,
remember we used to go to the airport, you could get through security
in like five minutes. How about there's any time at all you can take
cigarette lighters onto the plane, carry box cutters on the plane. Yeah,
I mean that's the thing, you know, It's it's amazing now much now
we have to take our seas off and be subjected to you know, virtual
X rays. It's weird. I'm sorry. I feel like years second.
Yeah, I feel like if they were born from nineteen ninety nine on,
okay up till just about today, then they are the homeland generation, because
this is when homeland security comes in. This is when greater surveillance comes in.
This is when Patriot Act comes in. If you're in the Western world
or you're in America's for sure, I'm saying you're part of the homeland generation.
You're part of the war on Terror generation. That's you because that's a
whole different reality from people were dealing within the nineties. When I was coming
to age, in totally different reality. I might have been able to take
a bust without an ID. Oh my god, you know, I mean
I could I got on trains, nobody even asked me for anything. They
might have asked me for a ticket if I was lucky, you know.
And yeah, I mean nowadays, you know, you gotta be scanned,
fingerprinted and eyeball recognized and on filmmate different ways before you can get it down,
you know, seriously. So you know, they think about the amount
of surveillance there is in a convenience store today, perfectly integrated, computerized,
multiple screens, multiple cameras everywhere, hidden inside, outside, etc. Meanwhile,
if you were working at a gas station is one of your early jobs
as a generation extra, you might have gotten robbed and you prayed somebody remember
to switch the one stupid VHS tape out. Maybe it was recorded if somebody
stuck a gun in your face. Okay, I mean really, it's a
different reality. Anyway, we're about at the end of the show. We're
about at the end of the show. And I consider them the Homeland generation,
and that includes my two oldest kids. But you know, what am
I gonna do? And Frankie was born in twenty fourteen, Who the hell
knows what they're gonna say in twenty thirty four he is, but he'll be
part of something. I don't know what. Anyway, jimmy interesting thing about
sociology and all that, but I'm gonna now put you back on hold.
I think that was an interesting bat around of that topic. And of course
that started with Harlan, who you know, got us on the generational squeeze
idea, and I agree with that as well. I feel like we're not
being counted on purpose, and part of it as our own fault for not
wanting to show up in the first place. But we were apathetic. I
mean, you got to give us that. We were apathetic about a lot
of things, except that little tiny portion that decided they wanted to go for
the greed is good plan. There were those guys, and that was the
difference between either the apathetic. You know, you're in the poor neighborhood and
there's crack, or you get the powder cocaine and you go to Wall Street,
but you know, not the whole the whole country didn't have Wall Street
though, did it. No? Anyway, BP, where should we How
should we come? Include this week's show what should we do here? Well?
We did is Harlan still with us. He is, well, we
can, you know, go ahead and make last rounds and the stair goodbyes
and get on with the weekend. There you go, So a final round
not a full five minutes will go to Harlan first. Harlan, your final
thought for this evening of this week, Well, one thing I'd like to
add to the generational ship bomb that I started good, like everybody had a
good responient back I do when I ask this. When I was in high
school, the gimmick that we got back in the day was that what was
considered the baby fomus because say we were hearing about this when you know,
when I was in school, because you know, they could talk about that's
just talk about you know, other things that you know, really mattered.
But it seemed like we got a lot of that gimmick, you know what
I mean. And actually the teacher that that you know, that we that
we had at myscho that covered government history and stuff, he wasn't a baby
from He would have been silent generation because he was in his early sixties.
If he was still alive, and I don't know if he is or not,
he would be like up in doubt he'd be ninety four ninety five.
But anyway, the gimmick was that it was everybody that was born during and
after World War Two that they was this major spoke as the soldiers were circulating
coming back in the early forties and then on into the mid forties once that
the war was over with, and then in like nineteen fifty eight, he
took like a drop from the first of the year down through the middle of
the year and it just nosed dive down through you know, fifty nine that
you know, they was basically a real hard core period of about eight or
ten years, but it had started going up and then it trailed out.
And my biggest you know question is, you know I always been is why
in the last it seems like it's really been hammered in the last five or
six years of expanding, you know, like for some reason, all these
other generations, you know, they lasted twenty and twenty five years on some
of these scales, some of them even was longer and out. I was
listing one one time, but why does this one hit was such a big
thing that you know, a during this you know, twelve fourteen year period,
everything was like booming. But I added the fact it is just doubled,
you know. I mean it's some of these charts is bread that you
know, probably closer to the thirty than the you know, the fourteen is
basically you know my point. But you know, it's just been good.
Been on tonight. I'm I'm glad you guys. You know, let us
get on here and run O my mouse. You know, last week over
on Tom Cooper's show Men, nature Boy was burning Chuck's eyes up. I
don't really heard about it or not was talking about it. Yeah, yeah,
you know I told everybody you had had plenty of my aus and I
did too. You know what we talked everybody today, us and the nature
Boy. He shared a little story and you know, Chris was apologizing for
anything that he contributed to y'all's drama bowing out. But it was good.
I didn't hear about any of that. It was a well everybody was probably
passed out or dying. But then because we was on for about six hours
actually six hours, said wow, so you know it was got he was
got lost and the mass was kept going. I mean it was just a
bag of marathon. You know, I'm pretty sure that I was. I
was the only one that you know, I hadn't had to you know,
either take medicines, you know, have some medscibel you know, help,
or I had a stiff drink. I had to do it, you know,
completely sober, you know, the whole time pretty much. And then
when advanced was there too, we kind of decided I want to throw this
as Jimmy Paul because we get Jimmy E liqu or two. Also, I
guess I had to. I okay, I died. You know, we
need we need to get danced and Jimmy, you know I sometimes on one
of these podcasts where they can really you know, like just back and forth
with each other like a long song, compare each other's you know, theories
and philosophy that, you know, stuff like it. Just set back and
just turn them loose. Maybe jump in every now and again. You don't
pump a break or you know, twist'em a little bit. But you
know, I like that would be fun. If Jimmy would agree that dance
said that you know he would. But well that's an interesting We'll go ahead
and let you guys will do that. Well, you know, you might
be able to ask Jimmy, give him enough time if he would might be
interested or if he think about it sometime, maybe one of these guys can
set them up together on the podcast. Well, I'll put you on hold,
you know, Jimmy James, I'll go right to you. You know,
if you're interested in going out on some other podcasts and going back and
forth into more free form fashion or whatever. And I guess I'm getting getting
bashed and apologize to on another podcast or whatever. That that's just figures.
But anyways, sure, why not that helps Jimmy? Yeah, man,
if you want that or whatever, I'm sure we could figure out a way
to arrange it. I don't mind somewhere down the line, not for no
six hours. So yeah, I hear that six hours. I mean,
you know, come, who's listening to six hours of that? I don't
know, but maybe somebody is. Maybe maybe that's my problem. I don't
know. People were bitching I was going too long forget about six fat Maybe
it's just me. They don't want to hear me for to move too long.
But anyway, whatever, I guess we all got a couple of shots
from them during this six hour marathon over there. But whatever, it is
it is? So anyway your final words through the week, Jimmy, it's
all you. And again, if you want to be hooked up with Harland
or something, I'll figure out a way to make that happen. I don't
know if I am Harland. I wait, I have both your email addresses,
so I know what I'll do. I'll just yeah, if you guys
each send me an email tonight, I'll just cross them over and make sure
that you're hooked together with the email and you guys can figure it out from
there. How's that sound? But go ahead, Jimmy James, your final
thoughts for the week's thanks for me. That's that we're saying we need to
all swap numbers. Okay, well again, send me send me an email.
Clearly they're all hooked up together over there, so I mean, all
they gotta do is get you. So Harlan, send me an email tonight
and remind me. And I will, you know, shoot, Jimmy James,
email to you. Give me send me another email because I know I've
got like two or three emails for you, but send me the one that
you want me to use. And I hooked it two of you guys up
and you guys figure it out. So anything else you want to close with?
Yes, yes, okay, definitely, Okay, So Sunday what's to
do? So? Are you is Uncle and Aaron's gonna be on Sunday And
are you guys gonna beyond at eight? As far as I know, yeah,
the Sunday Sloper Show go on at eight and Aaron and Uncle start at
ten, unless you know, they send me a message and you know can't
make it or something at night. But as far as I know, they're
there this week. Again, everyone's support showing network and tune in on Sunday
and call Uncle show because he it agitates him when he does a good good
amount of calls. Absolutely, I would appreciate it if more people would call
into Uncle. You can definitely tell jokes and talk about all kinds of stuff
on there that I don't cover, like football and wrestling and popcorn and if
you want to talk about coffee and what was that sourkraut mixed in with your
tuna fish? All that, Uncle will definitely entertain it all if you call
in on Sunday night, right, Jimmy jameson, Yeah, and he's never
gotten political except for once when I brought up they were both Trump and him
were both born and queens. Yeah, he suddenly wa Hank Trump with this
shoelace, this off of the telephone polls. But other than that one time,
I mean, yeah, usually he's not political at all. Yeah,
usually he's not political at all, Jimmy James exactly. So no politics there,
It's just fun. And that starts at eleven pm Eastern live on Ocelli
dot com. You can call in same number. You can call in to
my show, you can call into Uncle and the hour before ten pm the
Age of Transitions with Aaron. You never know what the hell is going to
go on there, and they're threatening to have guests again, just so you
guys know. But the callers are always appreciated. So Jimmy, I thank
you, man, I thank you for participating and being part of things.
And I also want to give a quick special shout out to creative Accidents.
I hope you're listening on your trip, because I know you're on your way
back to Texas in that big old vehicle that you stop by my place with,
So hopefully your list brother, and if you are, I hope you
stay safe and your journey is enjoyable. I really enjoyed meeting you and it
was a lot of fun in Thanks again, Frankie. Thanks you as well,
because you actually wound up buying him and meet dinner, so I appreciate
you for that, but also just for stopping by and I put his goodies
in his hand. He didn't have to wait for Dallas to get his stuff,
so I just put it straight in his hand. But we'll see him
again in Dallas in November when me and be Pete make that road trip.
So Be Pete, the final word is now in your hands to give.
So well, i'd like to thank you for the opportunity tonight another good Friday
night discussion. I'd like to think bands Jimmy and Arnold for calling me in
and other than that, basically we'll just bind this thing down and get ready
to do it again next Friday. Absolutely, and uh, you know what,
I'm not gonna sit here and vash any about of even though maybe I
took a couple of hits somewhere else threw it. I'm early O'Kelly, all
of you or indeed the effects. Good night,