WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:10.519 Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. These guys are your favorites, 2 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:19.920 so like to subscribe and rad it wap, story shot and range on yesterday 3 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:27.920 and listening, Oh watching wouldn't always keep its watching. And now your hosts 4 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:32.240 Cliff Berrickman and James Bubo Fay. Hello, folks, we'll go on a 5 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:35.840 big fit and be on with usually Cliff and Bobo. Let's today It's just 6 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:40.280 Bobo Cliff checking out some fresh snowprints that just shut up yesterday. Hopefully it 7 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:43.560 didn't get too snowed or rained on since then, but we'll find out when 8 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:46.479 he gets back. And I'm looking forward to the update. But this week 9 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:49.640 we got a great guest, so I was aware of it, didn't really 10 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:53.679 dig into her stuff till just recently, and I'm very impressed. She's a 11 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:58.520 great researcher. I mean she's put out more data than ninety nine point nine 12 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:03.119 percent of people. And uh yeah, So her name she goes by snow 13 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:07.959 White on snow at Bigfoot, on Facebook and YouTube. She has her own 14 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.319 channel. It's highly recommend checking it out. But her name is Angie. 15 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:15.079 So I want to say welcome to Angie. Hello, Bobo, Thanks for 16 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:19.879 having me on. Yeah, you're from uh So you live in the hot 17 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:25.480 spot of Ohio. Yes, yeah, we're less than an hour away from 18 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:27.879 Saltfork. That's an hour from Saltware. You sent me your address. I 19 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:32.040 was looking on Google Earth and I couldn't figure out at first. I was 20 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:34.840 like, what's bringing them? Like, why are they going there so much? 21 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:37.439 Like, like, you know, what would bring young ones up there? 22 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:41.920 Seems like you have you know, adolescents or even infant ones up there. 23 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:46.159 I mean, so you obviously feel very comfortable on your property for them 24 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:49.159 to be returning it, because I'm convinced you have big foot. Started listening 25 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:55.519 to the sounds and your fate, your fingerprinted German origins you photographed, and 26 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:59.959 it's just really impressive. Well thank you. Yeah, so you became away. 27 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:05.079 You became aware of the squatches in twenty fifteen, But did you just 28 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:07.680 move there or did you live there for a while? Well, actually I 29 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:15.159 became aware that they were here before that, but that in twenty fifteen October 30 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:22.680 was when the interaction started. So my husband, Jim has lived here about 31 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:28.759 thirty years now. I married him in two thousand and seven and we got 32 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:35.960 married December fifteenth, so I've been interested in Bigfoot previously before that, but 33 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:42.800 I hadn't like started looking into it a lot. Then after I married Jim, 34 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:46.719 he bought me a camera and I was really into photography. So when 35 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:52.719 spring came, I couldn't wait to get out and explore the woods because I've 36 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:58.080 always had a love for nature too. So I go down in our woods 37 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:04.240 to look around and take pictures and just explore. And we have a pond 38 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:07.319 on the west side. Well, we have a pond on both sides of 39 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:13.639 the property, but I was on the west side that particular day, and 40 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:17.280 I was taking pictures of a duck that was down there, and the duck 41 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:23.000 started walking down into the woods below the pond, so I followed it taking 42 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:30.080 pictures and I came across this weird looking structure thing, which now I know 43 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:34.840 it was a Bigfoot structure, but at that time, I was like, 44 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:37.840 what the heck is that? That's weird. So I took a picture I 45 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:42.680 would just because it was weird. And then I came back home and I 46 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:46.439 showed the picture to my son Bo and he said, that kind of looks 47 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:50.560 like one of them things Bigfoot makes, and I was like, hmm, 48 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.800 So I looked it up on the internet and I found similar looking structures, 49 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:59.439 and I was like, yeah, I think it is. And then I 50 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:02.879 started talking in the gym about it. And then he started remembering things that 51 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:06.919 happened to him and his boys all the years, you know, before I 52 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:12.800 met them. So that kind of got everything started at that point. What 53 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:15.199 kind of things stood up to them in the past, Like when they looked 54 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:16.800 back at the said, because I know when they figured out like, oh, 55 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:19.000 there's big foot here, they looked back and go, oh, that 56 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:23.759 must have explained all kinds of stuff. Was it like Knox or house. 57 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:27.319 What were they experience that they realized later on it was a bigfoot. Well, 58 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.079 the boys they used to run around, you know, all over the 59 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.839 property and they would go like down to the pond. They said they were 60 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:40.480 down at the one on the east side, just playing at the pond, 61 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:44.480 and they had like rocks getting like tossed. I don't know if it was 62 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:47.959 at them or in the water, but you know, they had that happen. 63 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:53.519 And also they were down in the field just below our house here at 64 00:04:53.519 --> 00:05:00.360 the bottom and they both saw something like it kind of looked like a bear 65 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:04.439 beside a tree, but then it stood up and walked away. So they 66 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:09.360 came back up to the house and got their dad and told him what was 67 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:12.759 going on. They were all scared, and he knew something had happened because 68 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:16.120 how scared they were, and he went back down there, but he didn't 69 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:20.279 see anything. Also, I think there was a time when they were having 70 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:28.360 a bonfire and they had family over and they were tossing the ball football and 71 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:33.000 I think Jim passed it to Tony and it landed like it was at night, 72 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:39.000 of course, and it landed behind him, towards the barn, and 73 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:42.680 so he had to go get it. And when he came back and he 74 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.240 said to his dad, I'm not getting the ball because there's some guy in 75 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.199 a fur coat crouched down over there, and I'm not getting the ball. 76 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:55.600 So Jim went and got the ball, but it was gone. So there 77 00:05:55.600 --> 00:06:02.279 were things like that happened some settings. Yeah, yeah, and I'm sure 78 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:09.319 they heard things. I know your son's hunt. Did his son's hunt as 79 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:13.399 well on the property before you got there, Yes, they did. They 80 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:16.720 didn't have any issues with that, like in tree stands or anything. They 81 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:21.959 didn't mention that, now my son has gone down into the woods. Even 82 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:27.279 after, like I started having interactions and he like one time he went down 83 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.279 and he had a firearm on his side. He was just going mushroom hunting, 84 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:38.120 but he was heading down towards the pond and he got growled at from 85 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:44.639 behind him, and he continued down below the pond, messed around, started 86 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:48.279 coming back up, and then he was getting rocks thrown, like coming through 87 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:51.519 the trees, some pretty good sized rocks. So he gets back up to 88 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:55.560 the house. He says, Mom, I'm not going down and there's woods 89 00:06:55.560 --> 00:07:00.399 by myself anymore. But he was pretty freaked out. But they, yeah, 90 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:05.399 they've had things like that happened. I don't call any incidents with them 91 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:11.519 hunting. How often to have they been aggressive to the people on your property, 92 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:15.000 like as far as like even just growling or you know, like threatening 93 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:20.079 sounds or they seem like you mostly have a pretty non antagonistic relationship. Is 94 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:25.759 that the case that, yes, that's the case there. Personally, I 95 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:30.000 haven't had. I can only think of like one or two times that I 96 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:38.000 felt really uncomfortable, and one time was it was during a time that we 97 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:41.399 were having a lot going on here. I believe it was all in the 98 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:46.480 same week that my husband and his son were sitting in the living room. 99 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:51.360 It was summer, the windows were open, and they heard this got awful 100 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:57.879 like roar hol thing like a t rex or something in the field, and 101 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.959 coyotes took off, and so that was, like, I think, one 102 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:07.360 of his most memorable vocalizations that he's heard. So that happened. And then 103 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:11.560 a couple days later, my daughter came and woke me up at about one 104 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:16.360 o'clock in the morning and she said, Mom, there's something going on out 105 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:22.959 in the woods behind like her window opened towards the section of woods where this 106 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:26.639 was all happening. She said, there sounds like there's something huge just crashing 107 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:31.679 through the woods, and it sounds like there's a monkey being strangled. So 108 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:39.519 I go to her room and I listened at the window, and nothing happened. 109 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:43.519 It was over. So I finally got in there. It was just 110 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:48.519 done. So the next day I get up and I think, I'm going 111 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:50.799 to go back there and look around and see if I can see anything, 112 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:58.240 any evidence of what was going on. And I went to that area. 113 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:00.960 I kind of looked around. I didn't see any anything, So I just 114 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:05.000 continued down the path and I ended up going because it was a real nice 115 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:09.200 day. So I thought, I'll just you know, go down to the 116 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:13.279 pond, take some pictures whatever. So I'm down at the pond kind of 117 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.039 just crouched down taking some pictures and stuff. And from up on the hill 118 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.960 where all that commotion happened the night before, I hear a tree get pushed 119 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.960 over, just you know, crack crack, crack crash, and I just 120 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:31.320 kind of frozing, like your stomach turns, you know, and I thought 121 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.799 I better get out of here because I just felt like they were saying, 122 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:39.879 Hey, you shouldn't be down here right now. Yeah, that's interesting. 123 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:43.240 And you know, I can't figure out, looking on the Google alert, 124 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.440 like why they would be going up there, Like I'm trying to stick where 125 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.440 they'd be going from one place another. I know, there's that large body 126 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:54.000 of water near you that you know, there's obviously some kind of attracting I 127 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.879 would imagine, but there's a couple of more, you know that it's eas 128 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.840 they're trying to go to, like those larger bodies the water, Like you're 129 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.399 you're not in the in the line of those like it seems like they have 130 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.080 to take a like kind of like it just just I can't see why they 131 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.519 want to be going up to your property. Have you figured out like is 132 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:11.480 there are you a half Like are you on a travel route that makes sense? 133 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:15.840 Like I could be going to like another like woodland area like or you 134 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:20.919 know, some parkland or anything like that. I think that they're here a 135 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:26.960 good percentage of the time. One thing I've observed over the seven eight years 136 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:33.039 that I've been documenting everything is that they'll, like the activity will quit and 137 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:39.600 it'll be a law for like five to seven days on average, and I 138 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.720 can almost like count on them being back between that five and seven days. 139 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:50.320 So I think that they travel like in a circuit, which I have reasons 140 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:56.000 for thinking that too from what I've observed over time. I'm still, you 141 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.840 know, trying to figure out what the whole circuit would be. I was 142 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:03.919 just talking to Jim about that the other day, but I know that's included. 143 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.080 Yeah, I was if I if I ever get like a spot where 144 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:11.960 I can you know, have a habituation site, go And I always thought 145 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:15.519 it'd be cool to put up like like easels or something like go out there. 146 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:18.200 And I mean, I guess it was summertime you can just put up 147 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:22.759 sheets of paper on like the easel and leave out like some markers. They'll 148 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:24.720 probably steal all the markers and stuff, but leave out like some finger paints. 149 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:26.720 And just if you went out there, like you know, in the 150 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.080 eating before dark or whenever, when you know they're around, just went out 151 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.080 there and painted and you know, just smeared stuff on there, and then 152 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.879 you know, just left that out there all the time, like somewhere that 153 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.879 it's not You're not trying to film it. It's not in the eyesight of 154 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:43.840 the you know, where you guys are the house or anything, so we're 155 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.679 like private where they feel comfortable. If you just went in there all the 156 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:52.559 time and painted, left the fingerprints there, I'll bet you would get great 157 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.279 uh you know, fingerprints all over the place. And then also just to 158 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:58.519 like see what they their their mind is when they paint, because i mean, 159 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:03.399 I'm you've all seen like elephants and chimpanzees and gorillas paint. It's like 160 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:07.879 it's they can actually paint some really cool stuff. I'd love to see some 161 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:13.559 sasquatch hard Well, I got something. Let me go back to a little 162 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:18.200 bit before I talk about that. I did put out a drawing pad, 163 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:24.559 and the first fingerprint that I got was them touching this that I had drawn 164 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:31.320 a smiley face with the red crayon, and I left the crayon there and 165 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:33.799 they came up and they were touching it, and there was like little handprint 166 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.639 and fingerprints. You could see dermal ridges and stuff. So that was the 167 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:45.399 first time. And another time I put a drawing pad out and I put 168 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:50.159 like four different colored crayons. I lined them up nice and orderly, like 169 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:54.200 they like it, yeah, And I drew like I took the crayon and 170 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:58.600 drew a line to show what the color was, you know, and that 171 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:03.240 did you right with it? And I left him out, and so go 172 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.559 out the next day and they took the blue crayon, which they seem to 173 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:13.039 have a thing for blue, and it was broken in half. But so 174 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.279 one of them had tried, I think, to write with it because there 175 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:22.360 were some marks on the paper, but it broke. So something else I 176 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:26.840 haven't mentioned either is I have like dolls that I made that represent them, 177 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:31.679 and then I have some that represent us, like that I bought like a 178 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:37.679 girl and a guy and everything. But I have like there was a baby 179 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:45.080 bigfoot and on up for size, and they took the little the little smallest 180 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.320 baby bigfoot and they put it on the tablet like he's the one that broke 181 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:54.480 you. He's the one that broke your crayon. So yeah, there was 182 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:58.440 that. There was that time, and then another time. I got a 183 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:07.759 coloring book and there was a picture of a big crayon, so I colored 184 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:09.960 that and kind of blue, and I scribbled on a little bit and I 185 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:15.919 left that out and they picked up the crayon and they did make some marks 186 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:22.120 on the paper. So I still got both of those things. About a 187 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:26.759 year ago, Jim and I was nice out, so we were sitting on 188 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:33.159 the back porch and there were we started in the winter before that spring or 189 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:39.200 whatever it was, Jim started feeding birds. So we were watching a lot 190 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:41.399 of the birds, and there was a nuthatch if you know what they are, 191 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:46.480 But they're really funny to watch because their head kind of like climb down 192 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:52.320 a tree head down, would go up and down and look really funny. 193 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.679 So we were sitting there talking about how cute that bird was and everything. 194 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:03.080 So the next day I get up and right in front of the swing where 195 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:09.879 we were sitting on the porch. There was this finger drawing, like their 196 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:15.159 fingers were muddy or something, and there was a drawing of a bird on 197 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:20.480 the porch. So obviously they had been observing us talk about the bird and 198 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:26.960 admiring it and everything, and made us a bird picture. Stay tuned for 199 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.559 more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo will be right back after these messages. 200 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.360 Well, I didn't see that photo of that, you know what I 201 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:43.240 did see a photo of a I mean, a drawing of a bird. 202 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.799 I guess that's I didn't realize what it was. I was just kind of 203 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:50.440 scanning through your page, you know, like looking at different things. And 204 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:52.559 now I gotta go back and look at that. Now, No, that's 205 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:54.919 a Bigfoot drawing. I mean, God, I gotta go look at that 206 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:58.200 again. It is so artistic. It is. I mean, it's like 207 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.759 you can see their finger are just flowing, you know, and they made 208 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:07.799 a head and a beak and there was an eye, little feet, tail, 209 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.879 feathers. It was amazing. You know. When I first looked at 210 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:12.919 it, I was looking at it sideways and I'm like, what the heck 211 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:18.639 is that? And then I kind of went to you know, I turned 212 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:19.840 and went so I was looking at a face on it was like, oh 213 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:26.519 my god, that's a bird and it's that's one of the most incredible things 214 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:32.000 that's happened. Just lose my mind. Yeah, I just I'm just surprised 215 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:34.399 that no one finds things like that more often, you know, like I 216 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.759 don't know, I don't know know that says they found big foot art. 217 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.639 Besides you, you mentioned that you said you were down by. You were 218 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:45.360 hiking with your husband at one of those lakes and you both saw one, 219 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:52.240 yes, And we walked really far back into the woods and we were kind 220 00:16:52.240 --> 00:17:00.759 of up on a hill and we were hearing things running around as like all 221 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:06.319 around us. We could hear walking and running and we were hearing vocalizations, 222 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:10.559 so we would move, they would move. But we were both looking down 223 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:15.400 over the hill and we both at the same time saw something duck behind a 224 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:22.359 tree. So and that was like where the walking and running was coming from. 225 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:29.839 So, yeah, that was a really exciting day. And I think 226 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.640 I think it was that same night or the same Yeah, it was getting 227 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:36.720 dark, so we left. We got down to the road and we heard 228 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:42.319 the best I think it was a hol and my recorder was on but it 229 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:48.759 didn't pick it up, but I was so disappointed. But oh it was 230 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:51.319 awesome. So what did you see when you when you saw, can you 231 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:55.039 describe what you saw in detail more? It was just like a black flash. 232 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:57.519 It was so fast. People talk about how fast. I've never seen 233 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:02.039 one. I've seen him walk and i've heard them run. I know I 234 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:03.000 know that, I know they can be fast, but when people see it, 235 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:07.920 they just they say they can't really put it into words, how fast 236 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.880 they move. Mm hmm. The first time, I think I actually got 237 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:17.319 my well, my first glimpse, I was I was heading out the back 238 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.160 of the house and Jim went out the front for some reason and we were 239 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:23.920 I don't know what we were doing, but he headed out the front. 240 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:29.759 I headed out the back, and when I stepped into the garage, we 241 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:33.039 have a landing there and there's a window where you can see the porch, 242 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:38.079 the railing and a side yard, and I just saw this black blur run 243 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:45.000 towards the there's a locust grove like behind our house running back there. It 244 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:48.599 was just it was a blur. But I think we startled it. I 245 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:52.759 think they were out there doing something and I came and Jim was coming like, 246 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:56.720 ah, like faster than it, faster than a horse or faster than 247 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.599 a deer. It was just a blur, that's what people say. I 248 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:04.079 mean, it's it's hard to it's hard to picture it. I saw some 249 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:10.559 video from Australia that this guy claims was a sasquatch running by so fast, 250 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:11.640 and then other people say, well, it looks like a bird flying through, 251 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:15.599 but I can't really tell what it is, but it's so fast, 252 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:18.079 thing like it has to be a bird. But then I asked the other 253 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:19.799 people that I said, look at this that i've seen that I've seen him 254 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:22.880 run, and say, does does this seem like that way you saw could 255 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:25.960 have gone that fast? And they said yeah, And I was like, 256 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:27.000 oh my god, because I think it was a blur in the video. 257 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:33.680 Yeah. I was taking a walk through the woods down on what we call 258 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.519 Creepy Valley because it's so creepy down there. The family just kind of nicknamed 259 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:41.160 it that before any of this was even a thing, this big foot stuff. 260 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:45.880 But I was taking a walk down through there, recording behind me with 261 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:52.279 my phone, and when I reviewed it later, I saw something jump from 262 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:57.279 one tree to another and it ended up being a juvenile. Then it was 263 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:03.440 it was so fast that I missed it several times. But whenever you see 264 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:06.960 it then you couldn't une see it. You know, everybody I would show 265 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:10.759 it to, they'd be like, what the hell, what the hell is 266 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:15.839 that because they jump back and see what the hell was that? Because it 267 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:22.000 was so it was just crazy fast. But then when I slowed it down 268 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:25.480 and went frame by frame and everything, I could see a little head and 269 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:30.759 eyes and arms, and it was crazy. It was really poor quality because 270 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:34.400 I was using a crappy old cell phone, so not the best, not 271 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:38.839 the best footage, but it was that you can you can see a little 272 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:44.880 body, there's one still. It was really good, see a little head 273 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:49.240 and eyes and its arm is like reaching out and its other arm is like 274 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:55.759 across its chest, just before it starts to jump. Is that the color? 275 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:59.079 You guys usually see jet black? Like that. I've had the kids 276 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:02.839 have seen what they think was a gray one. A second hit. Jim's 277 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:08.519 youngest son and my daughter who's the youngest, they both saw a gray one. 278 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:12.400 Was that a bigger one? I think the one that Mason saw down 279 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:18.359 in the woods he was going through creepy valley and he was getting to this 280 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:22.319 one like really sharp turn, and he set off in the woods. There 281 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.400 he saw one swaying back and forth. It must have been a bigger one. 282 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:30.519 It had its back to him, and he said he just he saw 283 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:33.079 it, and he acted like he didn't see it, and he just kept 284 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:38.200 walking. But that one was gray. And my daughter and her cousin, 285 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:44.200 she was spending the night. Actually my son was out there too. He 286 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:48.039 was out there first, and I think he was smoking or something outside because 287 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:52.440 we don't allow that in the house. But he said that he was here 288 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.319 in commotion going on along the fence line that goes down towards the woods, 289 00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:02.799 and a possum came walking up out of there with the chunk out of its 290 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:07.640 back like something. He said, it sounded like someone was trying to eat 291 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:08.960 it. It was screaming, and then it came up out of there with 292 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:14.759 the chunk out of its back. So he goes and tells my daughter and 293 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:19.359 her cousin their cousin to come out, you know, check out what's going 294 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:26.359 on. And they took a spotlight and were looking down in the field and 295 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:30.480 they saw something great. They said it was too big to be like a 296 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:36.039 coyote or anything and running too fast, just do that kind of blur thing 297 00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:41.880 running across the field. And the next day, the two girls and I 298 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:45.759 went down in there to look around, and there were footprints all over the 299 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:49.640 place down there. How big were the prince? How big of the prince 300 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:52.920 you usually find? I know, you found some tiny tiny and then like, 301 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.160 what's the what do you usually find? Well, I didn't have a 302 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.480 measure. I didn't even take pictures that day. I was so upset. 303 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.759 I think I thought it was going to range, so I didn't want to 304 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.319 take my phone. But when we came up out of the woods to the 305 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:11.559 gate, like from where that possum was coming from and he heard all that 306 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:15.279 commotion, there was a footprint right there, you see toes and everything. 307 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:21.319 So I didn't even get a picture of that. But I didn't measure them. 308 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:25.599 But they looked, you know, good sized. They're probably fourteen to 309 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:33.720 sixteen I would say, oh big, yeah, So the biggest print that 310 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:37.240 I've seen in our yard was eighteen and a half inches. I found that 311 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:41.119 because I was I go out and look around all the time, and there 312 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:45.519 was a fresh break in one of our trees at the edge of the yard 313 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:48.920 about ten feet up, so I was checking that out. I came back 314 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:51.720 up towards the house and that's when I saw the I think there were two 315 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:57.160 eighteen and a half inch prints leading away from that break. Well, how 316 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:02.640 high up was the break? It was at least ten feet. Wow. 317 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.880 It's the craziest thing is people will report seemed like a six foot one or 318 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:10.440 something or six and a half foot one, and then find like sixteen inch 319 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:12.400 tracks, and other people say it was nine foot ten foot tall, and 320 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:17.480 then we find like twelve or thirteen inch tracks. It's like, I mean, 321 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:19.960 it just goes to people's estimations are off a lot of the times. 322 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:25.240 But I know you guys have an adolescence, then even an infant wanted it 323 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:29.039 would appear. But one thing I was going to say was that the as 324 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:33.400 far as I can tell, it seems like they're born black and then lighting 325 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:34.480 up or do whatever color chains are going to do when they get older. 326 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:37.240 It seems like to me, well, time will tell. But that's one 327 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:42.920 thing I've it seems like been pretty consistent. Yeah, I've found hair samples, 328 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:51.000 and the two that I'm the most excited about are they were black like 329 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:56.839 a curly coarse texture like like clumps. I did find some others that was 330 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:02.680 gray, but that's one thing. I I'm working with Legend Meat Science too, 331 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:10.680 and having like my handprints and some of my samples forensically looked at. 332 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:15.440 So I'm excited to see the results of that. Yeah, and talking about 333 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.480 press, this is what this is what's brought you to my attention is that 334 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:23.160 you've done the best job of documenting drumal rich patterns on handprints left on all 335 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:27.559 over your property, your porch or barbecue, your cars, windows, house. 336 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:30.920 I mean, these guys, these guys are touching everything, and you've 337 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:36.559 done a great job of documenting it. Thank you. Yeah, I just 338 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:41.599 I get so excited whenever I find I knew, especially if it's on glass, 339 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:44.519 like on the car, because then I can, like I said, 340 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:48.559 I was into photography, and I've got some really good cameras, like professional 341 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:56.319 lenses ones, a macro lens that's got hybrid stabilization so you can get a 342 00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:06.000 really sharp picture close up. So I use those to document the prints if 343 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:11.680 they're really good like that, And like if it's on glass and you shoot, 344 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.119 you know, with the light behind it, it looks almost like a 345 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:21.960 three D picture of their arm or their hand or whatever. It's just so 346 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:27.359 cool. Yeah, because Cliff's working with one of the top germinal rejects for 347 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:32.039 some law enforcement in the country and he's really interested in seeing him. And 348 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:37.720 I sent Cliff a couple of your videos, especially that one where you it's 349 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.559 only like eight minutes I think the eight minute one where you have the baby 350 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.319 the baby footprint and what time of year was that, because that thing would 351 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.240 have been close to being a newborn. You want to give us the whole 352 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.480 rundown on that. I mean, like because it seems like it was being 353 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:53.319 carried and whatnot. Cold. You just give us that whole runnown. I 354 00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:57.119 was one of the day because that might give us some insight on when they're 355 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.519 being born, you know, or we don't know how wise Okay. It 356 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:07.119 was on August twenty seventh to twenty twenty one when I found and there was, 357 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:12.119 as I was mentioning, before they come in our garage a lot and 358 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:19.119 this was probably the too. This was the third time that they left really 359 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:26.119 excellent prints on our car windows, and before that they had left a really 360 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.640 good print the first one on the door that goes from the garage out to 361 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.960 the back porch. It was on the inside of the glass. But it 362 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:40.519 seems like see that was in March, and every time I have to go 363 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:44.279 out and take these pictures in the garage, it's usually like really hot, 364 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:49.400 I'm not there, sweating, dripping, was sweat till I'm done. So 365 00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:56.279 it does seem to be like July and August. We also had a really 366 00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:03.400 large handprint. Maybe I'll talk about that later. But what happened with the 367 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:08.960 really great ones in August twenty twenty one was I just I went out there 368 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:15.519 and I saw what looked like another palm print on the back window passenger side 369 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:22.559 or now I'm sorry, back window driver's side, and so I started taking 370 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:27.200 the pictures of it. And as I go around the car, then on 371 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:32.640 the front window, on the driver's side, I found two more like prints. 372 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:34.000 I didn't know what they were. I thought it was another palm print. 373 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:42.720 What it actually was was like the infant's shoulder leaned up against the window 374 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.720 and if you go then like later, I went around the other side of 375 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:56.319 the car and on the back window passenger side was this beautiful whole arm like 376 00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:03.160 from the elbow up to the fingers. It's like just looking at one of 377 00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:08.200 their arms, and so that's that, and I think they were in the 378 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:11.200 garage. It took something that at that time too, but I think there 379 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:17.160 was like either the mom or a sibling carrying that, maybe because they were 380 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:21.519 prints. Oh, the other one on the fo I remember now was a 381 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:26.720 bent arm that leaned against the window. So there was the shoulder and a 382 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:32.200 bent arm. There was also a bent arm on the body of the car. 383 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.960 And the first one that I found that I thought was a palm print, 384 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.000 actually turned out to be the bottom of a foot. There's just a 385 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:48.960 little tiny infant foot with the toe curled over, and the detail is just 386 00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:55.640 amazing. I've never seen I don't think I've ever seen a picture of details 387 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.640 of the bottom of one of their feet. And there was like some really 388 00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:03.240 strange looking spots on that foot too that I don't know what it is. 389 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:08.160 Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. We'll be right 390 00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:18.759 back after these messages. And you did a great job with the arm, 391 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:23.279 the bent elbow and all that, comparing it to a baby chimpanzee being carried 392 00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:27.799 and the like, where the skins kind of you know, more prominent and 393 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:33.279 less hair, and I mean you lined up almost exactly with what you have. 394 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:38.759 It was its actually a gorilla. I looked at chimpanzees and gorillas, 395 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:48.599 but the gorilla matched almost exactly. And like with the foot, I was 396 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.640 trying to find comparisons for the foot, and when I looked at chimpanzees or 397 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.240 gorillas, it didn't really match. So I had to kind of go to 398 00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:02.559 a baby, a human baby infant foot, and that looked more like it. 399 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:04.960 Yeah, that's not just say just because you said it was two and 400 00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:10.319 a half inches about was that what you said there? Three? Yeah, 401 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.319 I could probably tell you exactly if I can look it up here, but 402 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.240 I believe it was about two and a half So that almost I mean, 403 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:19.519 I could be totally wrong. It could just be a runch or something, 404 00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:25.039 but that just sounds almost too small to be a sasquatch when they're born there, 405 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.000 you know from what I hear from people that have, you know, 406 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.519 been around them, like you know, newborns and stuff, like, they're 407 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.000 quite a bit larger than human babies. Well, actually it wasn't. That 408 00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:38.720 was the size. It's like, wasn't the whole foot and the curled toad, 409 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.119 Like you said, look at the curled toad like that's also, like, 410 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.640 you know, an attribute of human and not sasquatch. So it's just 411 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.559 kind of but how how would the kids flick it on your car? You 412 00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.960 know? It's yeah, that's not possible. Besides, all the other prints 413 00:31:53.279 --> 00:32:00.240 looked like a gorilla or you know, gorilla like, so I'm sure that 414 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:05.720 that was from an infant. Oh yeah, but it's just I can't wait 415 00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.720 for that the uh, you know, the General Ridge expert, the law 416 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.799 enforcement guy Cliff runs with. I can't wait to see what he has to 417 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:17.680 say about about these pictures you took. Yeah, me too. What's the 418 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:22.880 biggest handprint you found on your property? It was on our trash can, 419 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:29.039 which we keep well we don't have it now, but we used to keep 420 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:31.960 it between the garage and the front porch. Yeah, well that's the one. 421 00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:36.200 It's the big hand like it it looks like it slid sideways and down 422 00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:37.960 like you find the exact same one somewhere else, like on a barbecue, 423 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.839 right, Is that that's what you're talking about? Yeah, they are, 424 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:46.000 like they get this. The tips always look kind of like swirled to the 425 00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:50.359 side. Or something. You know. I don't know if it's movement or 426 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.839 if it's how they lay their fingers down or what. But this was. 427 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:59.960 I measured it, and it was eleven inches from the tip of the finger 428 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:05.160 down to where I think, like the poem rested. It was like wrapped 429 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:10.119 around the trash can, like from the top over the lid, and the 430 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:15.160 thumb came and excuse me, down further. So I measured the best I 431 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:22.599 couldn't. It was about eleven inches big, yeah, and the fingers were 432 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:28.319 at least an inch thick, you know. Yeah. I was listening to 433 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.720 some of those stuff that you recorded out there, and I really liked the 434 00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.440 It's you know, it's funny because you know you name you name, like 435 00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.359 different sound files whatever, and it's so hard, Like whenever I'm trying to 436 00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:45.039 like classify or quantify big Foot vocalizations almost always at a loss. It's like 437 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:51.359 and there's the obvious roars and shrieks and screams, but like you have Indian 438 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.400 war cry with owl return. I thought those were really good. Yes, 439 00:33:54.759 --> 00:34:00.160 that was That's one of my favorite ones that they've done. I just I 440 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:05.200 just love that and they're so clear, and some of them are so close 441 00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:09.400 that it just picked up great, but they'd be like they do the awl 442 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:15.480 mimic, like I said, And I've recorded them morphing from either the owl 443 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:21.360 into that war cry or the rice versa. Yeah, well it was a 444 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:27.119 war cry and then another individual did a fake owl return call right, yes, 445 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.719 yeah, like back and forth. You've recorded that a few different times, 446 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.320 not just that one night. You've recorded the war cry with the owl 447 00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.159 return right, yes. Yes. Do you have any idea what that means? 448 00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.440 Or is it like, is one closer likely? Is the war cry 449 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:44.079 closer in the owls further away? Or is there any kind of Sometimes I 450 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.880 like the I think the war cry was a little bit closer than the owl 451 00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.000 that time. But yeah, it seems like they're communicating if they're hunting. 452 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:54.119 Yeah. At first I was listening to I think it was, uh, 453 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:59.000 you had impatient owl. I think it was impatient owl was the title. 454 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:00.480 I think that's what it was. But I listening to the first one, 455 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:04.960 I was like, oh, man, these are all owls. Maybe I 456 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.480 don't know. But then I got to five, six, seven, eight, 457 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.920 eleven, twelve, thirteen, and fifteen, and the last one they 458 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:14.280 had like a few of number sixteen, the last one of those, those 459 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:19.239 to me were awesome, Like to me, those were clearly sasquatched not owls. 460 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.840 Yeah, because like sometimes they'll do the owl and they'll mess up. 461 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.840 Yeah, I was listening. I was I was laughing because you always think 462 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.119 of them being like these like super beings, and it's like, no, 463 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.599 those things are they mess up just like anything else. Yeah, it was 464 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:42.440 hilarious when they do yeah, like who goofy like that. It's like, 465 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.519 oh, then you have the you have the the dog one, I thought. 466 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.239 I thought, to me, that sounded just like a dog. But 467 00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:52.119 then you had the wooz. I had two, three, and six written 468 00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.960 down as being really good. Then you had the singing ones and you can 469 00:35:57.079 --> 00:35:59.280 I mean that was really hard to be out. It seemed pretty distant, 470 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:02.320 but it really reminded me of the ones that Dave Ellis, you know, 471 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.360 kind of put out there from the Olympic Project in Washington State. But I 472 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.159 could make up what you had titled singing out very well. But there was 473 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.239 a few that came through. I could hear pretty good when I put on 474 00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:16.119 the good headphones, and it was Greg and Donna's out in the Olympic Peninsula 475 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:22.960 that Dave Ellis had worked with, and he put out some of their We 476 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.880 had it on the show actually, and it's that same sing songing voice. 477 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.639 I mean, it's obviously the same species, you know, right. Yeah, 478 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:35.360 And actually I just talked to Dave Ellis on the phone, probably a 479 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:42.000 couple of weeks ago about Doug high Check introduced us and we talked and that 480 00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:45.119 was one of the things he wanted to hear. So he said he can 481 00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:49.679 clean up a lot of my files, which would be great because I'm not, 482 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:54.239 you know, an expert on an audio. I just put together package. 483 00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:58.039 That's funny. I was just putting the other package for Dave of your 484 00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:02.199 stuff. Oh really good good. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't talked with 485 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:07.039 him since, but Doug giving my phone number and I think we're going to 486 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:12.960 communicate by email. So I don't know what he's listened to or anything yet. 487 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.760 But that was one of the things he mentioned. And there was also 488 00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:22.519 a vocal where my husband was sitting on the front porch. I was inside, 489 00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:30.000 and this really like a mournful moaning how started down in the wood. 490 00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:34.719 It was probably it sounded like a female and it was it was incredible. 491 00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:40.199 It was one of the most incredible vocalizations we've heard. And well I didn't 492 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:43.760 hear it at the time, but I got it on the quarter. But 493 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.519 Jim got a little excited and got up to come and get me to go 494 00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:52.679 hear it. So the door opens and stuff. But oh also I was 495 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.119 going, man like, it's the best one, and all of a sudden, 496 00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:59.239 like there was too much emotion and emotion. Dave said he can probably 497 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.679 take care of that, so oh great, Yeah, I would love for 498 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.280 him to clean that up, because, oh my goodness, it sounded like 499 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:13.519 it was in pain or something. It was really upset. And it wasn't 500 00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.880 real long after that. I think it was a few months. We think 501 00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:25.239 that the Mama Bigfoot died. Well, like I told you about the dolls 502 00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:30.400 earlier that I put out, and they use those to communicate, like they'll 503 00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:35.559 move them, do certain things with them, like they'll watch us do something 504 00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:42.280 and they'll mimic it with the like you call that role play, Yeah, 505 00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:46.360 they'll role play. And so I go out one day I had them all 506 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:52.440 lined up on the railing, you know, like from the big Daddy the 507 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.880 Mama and then going down in size, and it was turned face down, 508 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:05.719 and I never They've never done that before. And there was like a series 509 00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.079 of events happened, like I think I left it the way it was, 510 00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:13.400 and I didn't do anything, like I didn't take the doll in or anything, 511 00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:17.400 and they had they put it on the ground, and so I just 512 00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:22.880 kind of was working with them. I believe it was face down. Yeah, 513 00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:28.519 And this went on for like a month or more, like things happening 514 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:34.719 with that doll, because like I'd move it and they would move it somewhere 515 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:40.880 else, like maybe saying that she didn't belong there anymore. But one at 516 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:45.320 one point they took an oak leaf and laid it on our tables on the 517 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:50.119 back porch. Actually I had a little sign, a wooden sign laying there, 518 00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.800 and I had the doll was laying on that for some reason, and 519 00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:59.920 they brought an oak leaf and put it under the Mama doll and you know 520 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:05.119 what's that supposed to mean? And then I don't know, a day or 521 00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:09.719 so later, they brought a little like rectangular, flat looking rock and laid 522 00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:14.360 it beside her head with you know, on that leaf. It was it 523 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:19.119 looked like some kind of a memorial. I don't know, if they were 524 00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.519 trying to tell me where she was where she died. It got something to 525 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:28.000 do with an oak tree or you know, I don't know, but the 526 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:36.760 whole thing made us think that she had died, and after that time things 527 00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:43.039 changed. So you know what's really interesting is that a year ago Jim's mom 528 00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:47.760 died whenever she died that same day, she died at like ten o'clock in 529 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:52.719 the morning, no ten o'clock at night. And then the next morning I 530 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:59.960 go out walking around the house and there's really weird mourning dove sound going on, 531 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:05.039 and it just it didn't sound exactly like a normal dove, but I 532 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:08.679 was like, you know, it's gotta be but it was really weird. 533 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:16.159 And then I found the dolls they took. They took the I took the 534 00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:20.920 mama doll that died. I took that one inside, but there was another 535 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:25.199 like girl, and I put it in the mama's place. So they took 536 00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:30.360 that one and they moved it off of the bench where I kept it. 537 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:35.440 It was way over, probably four or five feet from the bench, and 538 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.480 it looked like it looked like they had thrown a fit or something. Because 539 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:45.840 the food basket that I leave hanging from the garage. Spouting was ripped down 540 00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:50.599 and broken. The Mama doll was, like I said, moved over and 541 00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.199 stuff. So I thought, hmm, you know, it seems like maybe 542 00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:58.519 they're telling us they're upset because his mom died, but you know, you're 543 00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:04.000 not sure percent. Anyways, the next day, after the first day when 544 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.239 they moved the doll, I went out there and they did it again. 545 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:13.639 They took the mom a doll, but this time it was like specifically moved. 546 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.639 I had them lined up on the bench and they took they picked it 547 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:23.880 up and moved it right beside the bench exactly as it was laying on the 548 00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:29.440 bench, but just laying on the ground. And they also had knocked over 549 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.639 a couple of things that were leaning up against the garage, like decorations, 550 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.960 that same day. So I really feel like they were telling us that they 551 00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:45.440 kind of knew what was going on about his mom dying. Wow, Yeah, 552 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.239 that's amazing you can get that. I mean, you start to get 553 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.760 a feel for these things, I guess after a while years and years of 554 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.239 dealing with them, you start to kind of see the patterns, and then 555 00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:59.480 when there's something out of the ordinary, it really stands out. Stay tuned 556 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.480 for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. We'll be right back after 557 00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:12.840 these messages. I was going to ask you, do you have a DNA 558 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.679 possible DNA collection kit? I mean, not the kid. Do you have 559 00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:20.239 a collection of things that you suspect to have DNA from a sasquatch on them? 560 00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.400 Do you have like multiple things? Yes, that's one of the things 561 00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:31.559 that's getting forensically looked at. I've collected some samples their hands where they left 562 00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:37.480 a handprint, that thick residue that they leave. Yeah, I've collected that 563 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:39.719 a couple of times. How long you have you noticed that it lasts a 564 00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:43.920 really long time? The lot, well, let me see it wasn't the 565 00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:52.480 very last one one of the January of twenty twenty three. They we kept 566 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:57.119 hearing pounding out by Jim's work van, and Jim's like, what are they 567 00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.480 doing hitting my van? I was like, well, I don't know, 568 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:07.360 sounded like it. So he went to work and he's the van was dirty 569 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.320 and he saw one particular smudge on it that wouldn't come off. He pressure 570 00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:17.400 watched it. So I went out and was looking around and I saw it 571 00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:21.960 and I was like, what the heck is that? And at first I 572 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.920 thought it was another palm print. After I took pictures and edited and looked 573 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:30.280 at it, I could see that it was the back of a hand like 574 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:35.960 they they must have been messing around, you know, being ornery or whatever, 575 00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.519 and just smacked the back of his van with the back of its hand, 576 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.719 and you can see hairs coming out of the hair follicles on the back 577 00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:50.280 of the hand. And I also like, I did a comparison with the 578 00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:57.360 gorilla hand and it looks almost exactly like you can see, like this a 579 00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:05.360 knuckle. There's like some coarse, callous type thing around the knuckle. It's 580 00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:08.480 all documented in a video. But if they're walking clause repeatedly, then their 581 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:15.000 knuckles would have to be thick callous. Yeah, yeah, And anyways, 582 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:17.840 the point I was getting at was heat pressure or watched that and it's still 583 00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.320 had that much detail in it that I could I could see hair follicles or 584 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.840 hairs coming out of the follicles. I wonder, I wonder if that's like, 585 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:29.360 is that like like a film layer like that they have on there to 586 00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:31.719 protect them from the cold, Like I don't I just don't see like the 587 00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:37.559 evolutionary benefit to having leaving this like thick like seb them whatever. Yeah, 588 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:45.679 that's one theory that Doug Hicheck kind of has that it's uh something that possibly 589 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:51.280 is protection for their skin. I guess I think there's something that makes something 590 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:52.679 it could be. I think I don't know. I mean, that's the 591 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:58.760 only thing that makes sense to me. Yeah, and it's obviously thicker, 592 00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.920 you know, like when ever I find a print like that, A lot 593 00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:07.599 of times I will try to I'll take my hand to see what kind of 594 00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:09.360 a print I would leave, just make sure it wasn't me or you know, 595 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:15.199 something like that, And it doesn't even come close to the thickness or 596 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:21.400 the detail or anything that's that the Sasquatch hand leaves. Yeah, a lot 597 00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:23.320 of people that tell me that they get freaked out and they start being on 598 00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.480 their house and said, I don't think it's an intimidation thing. Most I 599 00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:31.000 think it's they want interaction of some sort of is what it seems like. 600 00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:35.599 I'm talking to people like you over the years, do you get that sense. 601 00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:39.199 Yes, it's like they kind of want to interact, but they don't 602 00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:44.440 want to do it directly. They do it indirectly through like through objects, 603 00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:51.599 And that's one thing that has worked for me is to use those dolls and 604 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:57.880 objects and they move the objects around and communicate like they crave that interaction. 605 00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:04.760 But they have that in born thing where they just have to stay hidden ultra 606 00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:13.880 hardwired. Yeah, So getting past that barrier of having to stay hidden is 607 00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:19.719 like where I My goal is to get them to trust me enough and for 608 00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:27.320 our interactions and relationship to develop enough for they'll actually interact with me directly. 609 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.320 That's where I would like to end up at some point. I don't know 610 00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:36.880 if it will ever happen, but I keep trying. What's been like your 611 00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:42.960 favorite experience? Oh, there's been a lot. Well, actually, it 612 00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:47.840 was one year to the day that the interactions started. I went out. 613 00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:52.599 I was working at the time, so it was mourning. Actually, I 614 00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.800 don't know if I don't think I was working that day, but I went 615 00:47:54.840 --> 00:48:00.360 out checked the porch and they left a gift. It was a bounce evall, 616 00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:07.239 like one of those kind you get a gumball machine, really colorful. 617 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:10.440 So when I went to pick it up, I heard a wo come from 618 00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:17.119 the woods where my daughter heard the commotion that one time and the monkey being 619 00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:22.239 strangled that section of woods, I heard a wo come from back there was 620 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:29.119 like a real soft wu and so that really excited me because you know, 621 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:34.159 it's like, oh wow, that's not the first time that they've wooed, 622 00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.679 like when I went out to get something. But anyways, I thought that's 623 00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:42.559 really great. I picked the ball up. I walked around the yard to 624 00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:49.280 section like that's nearest the woods, but still in our yard, and I 625 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:52.199 started talking to him and I said, this is this is beautiful. I 626 00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:57.280 love it. I kind of held it up to my heart like, you 627 00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.840 know, like I love it. This is great. And they wooed at 628 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:07.039 me again in the same tone. It was this real soft woo. And 629 00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:09.400 so I kept talking and I said to stuff again, and they did it 630 00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:14.400 again, and I was like, oh my god, I think I just 631 00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.239 talked to a bigfoot Like he was he was glad that you acknowledged that he 632 00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:22.239 knew the gifts was from Like he was glad that you acknowledged that that that 633 00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.239 ball gift was from him. Yeah, And I don't know if they were 634 00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:29.039 like waiting around to see me find it. You know, you know how 635 00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:30.599 you like to give somebody a gift and you want to watch them open. 636 00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:37.199 Yeah. So it was like, yeah, it was just so special. 637 00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:43.639 I mean, to be able to have that verbal, actual verbal back and 638 00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:45.920 forth, you know. So that was one of my favorites. You can 639 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:49.320 have a softer tone. I think one thing that really put you on the 640 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:54.920 map was you might've been the first person to record a bigfoot fart. Yep, 641 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.679 yeah, there's she has on her YouTube page. There's one that's mart 642 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.840 something. It's a long tile like something. Something walked up, messed around, 643 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.760 farted, messed around, and left. I think it's the title. 644 00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:12.159 Yeah, well I think on big foot farts. I'm serious. I think 645 00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:15.639 that's what. Yeah, you have it up there a couple of times. 646 00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.519 Yeah. Yeah. There's like a long version where you can hear walking up, 647 00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:21.840 messing around, and then there's the short because people are like, I 648 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:23.480 just want to hear the fart, you know. Yeah. I listened to 649 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:28.239 the long version. It's interesting and it made me think that's a that's a 650 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:34.639 lady like fart that sounds like a female bigfoot. Yeah. Actually I think 651 00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:38.519 that. I was just talking to Jim about this when it first started. 652 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:44.960 The interactions like sometimes I would find right in front of the railing where they 653 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.199 were standing and messing with stuff. I would find prints and there was like 654 00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:52.639 a thirteen and a half inch there a lot and in the yard, and 655 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:59.039 then along with it was a like a nine inch. So I think I 656 00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.239 just kind of had a feeling was like the mom and a kid that was 657 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:07.280 coming up. So I'm wondering if the first interactions I had a lot was 658 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:13.519 maybe with a female, possibly the mom. Yeah, it kind of seems 659 00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.719 like like just how male the most of it's been sounds. It sounds like, 660 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:20.199 yeah, it sounds like you're dealing with a mom with some young ones. 661 00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.599 And there's that whole speculation like are these big ranging males that have multiple 662 00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:29.679 females in like their territory, are they monogamous or you know whatever I mean, 663 00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:34.360 But it seems like that there's females with young without a male around at 664 00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:38.920 least part of the time. Yeah. And one thing that Jim and I 665 00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:44.440 we kind of have a theory on it is because like whenever we thought the 666 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:50.679 mama died and things changed after that, like it's like it got quiet. 667 00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:57.000 They wouldn't vocalize as much. You know. It seemed like maybe when she 668 00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:04.400 died there was a replacement for her possibly, and it made us wonder if 669 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.760 the matriarch is the one that maybe makes the rules, like Okay, you're 670 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.800 gonna have to be quiet, don't be so loud, don't make so many 671 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:19.480 vocalizations, and then the alpha male is maybe like the enforcer of the rules. 672 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:24.239 There's a couple of recordings and then there's eyewitnesses. There's that famous famous 673 00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:30.519 one on episode five to one five on Sasquatch Chronicles on West's show, you 674 00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:35.039 had Claire from England and the things starting up like you know, like freaking 675 00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:38.480 out, like the samurai chatter kind of, and the female got between him 676 00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:43.800 and the and the woman Claire, and like chest I said, like stopped. 677 00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:46.039 There was the one. We us had another great one on there a 678 00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:51.599 woman in Tennessee. She had a big male sasquatch approaching her in a full 679 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:52.440 moon and she said it was going to kill her, like it was just 680 00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:57.920 like just yeah, like enraged, like furious, and the female got in 681 00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:01.320 between and stopped him. And then that's what we expect that it's happening on 682 00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:06.760 the Sierra. Sounds that Ron moorehead requarterback in the seventies. It sounds like 683 00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:09.880 that the male is chastising a young one and then the female gets in between 684 00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:14.440 him and is telling the male to look back off. You know, they 685 00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.960 don't go off on this, the young the young one. Yeah, that 686 00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:22.960 just it makes sense, doesn't it. Yeah? Was there anything else? 687 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.639 I know? Well, you could go on for two weeks. I mean, 688 00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:29.679 is there any main thing that I skipped or he wanted to say? 689 00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:35.400 Oh? Boy, I don't know. Just there's exciting things coming up with 690 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.559 legend meat science too. I did an interview for like two days. He 691 00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:44.719 sent his crew here and we did an interview. And I'm working on a 692 00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:52.000 book where it's like whenever I first started documenting, then, like like I 693 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:53.960 said, at first it was just pictures. Then I started thinking I got 694 00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:58.679 to write to stuff down, so I started making a written diary. I 695 00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:01.400 kept that for a couple of years, and then I started the channel, 696 00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:08.639 the YouTube channel when I started doing videos. So I'm doing the book going 697 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:15.159 clear back to like my childhood and how everything started for me. And I'm 698 00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:22.599 going through the tentative title of it is getting to Know Bigfoot, and I'm 699 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:30.360 just kind of going through what I've experienced and what I've learned. But from 700 00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:34.440 the point of view that I have now looking back on it, so I 701 00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.119 can kind of put everything together. How do you put an ending on it? 702 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:40.400 You've got stuff happening continuously. How do you wrap it up? That's 703 00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:43.760 what my husband is saying, how are you going to end this thing? 704 00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:49.840 And I'm like, well, it's like I've learned so much, but there's 705 00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.719 so much more to learn. So it's like you can get to know them, 706 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:58.840 but I'll have to continue. It'll it's still learning process and I will 707 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:04.440 continue getting to know them, you know. So Yeah, and I want 708 00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:06.960 to. I got a lot of catching up to do on your channel, 709 00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:12.320 and you're making a huge contribution to the subject. I'm very impressed. Well, 710 00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:15.360 thank you very much. It's been a lot of work, but it's 711 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:19.079 worth it. Yeah. Yeah, obviously you're putting a lot of time and 712 00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:22.519 effort into this and we appreciate it a lot. So thank you for coming 713 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:27.639 on and good luck with the future research. Thank you, Thank you for 714 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:30.079 having me on. I really enjoyed it. Okay, folks, that was 715 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.599 Angie from snow It Bigfoot. Check out our YouTube. I'm sure you're going 716 00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:37.519 to check it out now, you got to. It's great she's got a 717 00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:42.239 Facebook page I'm following also, so check her stuff out. And we got 718 00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:45.320 links down on the notes below you can check out. We got all the 719 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:47.760 YouTube and Facebook down there, so you can check this stuff out. And 720 00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:52.159 yeah, give her a lik and a follow, and so yeah, folks, 721 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:54.079 let's support Angie on this. This is awesome. Check out her stuff. 722 00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:58.119 You're going to love it. And until next week, y'all keep it 723 00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:07.800 squatchy. Thanks for listening to this week's episode of Bigfoot and Beyond. If 724 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.880 you liked what you heard, please rate and review us on iTunes, Subscribe 725 00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:15.960 to Bigfoot and Beyond wherever you get your podcasts, and follow us on Facebook 726 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:21.000 and Instagram at Bigfoot and Beyond podcast. You can find us on Twitter at 727 00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:24.719 Bigfoot and Beyond that's an N in the middle, and tweet us your thoughts 728 00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:29.320 and questions with the hashtag Bigfoot and Beyond