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solution to our problem. Government is
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in the English language are I'm from
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you. Tuned in to right Side
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have found that it is the right
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another week or one hundredth numbered episode, and it's a big milestone. And

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in order to celebrate the milestone,
I've brought back the original host of the

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Right Side Radio program back from our
terrestrial radio days. First time in a

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long time, Chris, that I've
had you had just sitting across from me.

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We've got a literal fire going next
to us. We're actually having a

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true fireside chat tonight. So Chris, this is much better than a studio

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or outside. It's not too cold
tonight. The fires is burning. Well,

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you may even hear it. Don't
hold that against Jack. It's not

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his production. It's actually a fire. But this was we thought would be

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the best way to do this one
hundredth episode. It just kind of fits.

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Oh, absolutely, Chris, Well, you know, first off,

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you know, I think that I
have to ask this question first, and

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I've already told everyone I would ask
this question first because it's the one that

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everybody wants to know, and that's
simply what's next for Chris McDaniel. That's

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a good question. There's a lot
of projects that I'm presently working on,

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both some political, legal, and
also just being a dad naturally. Over

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the next couple of years, you
can bet I don't plan to miss any

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baseball games. I was in politics
for sixteen years. That's a long time,

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and if you think about the toll
it takes on kids and families,

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it can be pretty devastating. Not
to say that I'm out of politics,

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I'm not. I'm not done yet. I'm not going to be done until

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the fight in me is over,
and it's not over yet. What I

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do know is as long as we've
got Rhino's a bunch of Republicans opposing,

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I'm going to be there to call
him out. And if that pisss off

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every one of them, I'm okay
with this. That's the first thing.

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And I'm going to be doing that
on podcasts like this one, and on

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podcasts like others we've got that are
beginning to start up, one of which

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is working with Jim Sigelski there with
the Law It'll call. He has a

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great project coming up and it's going
to be a national project. Jim has

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invested a lot of time and effort
into this project, and I think I'll

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let him make the announcement. I
won't do that just yet. This is

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a teaser, that's all this is. But just know that there's going to

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be a lot of conservative opinions,
a lot of conservative writing. And here's

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the best part about it. It's
not going to be Republicanism that's scared of

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the establishment. We have to be
able to call both signs of this fight

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out. If the establishment Republican Party
is going to keep moving us to the

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left, we've got to call them
out. If the Democrats are as dangerous

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as they've become, and maintained that
course, we got to call them out,

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but ultimately both sides have to be
called out. That's different than most

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Republican style podcasts. Most of their
designed to protect the establishment or for that

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matter, never question because they're afraid
of the establishment. I think, you

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know, we don't have a lot
of fear of those people. So whatever

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we do is going to be open, honest, transparent, and aggressive as

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we seek to move and little further
day to the right. Well, Chris,

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that's exciting to hear because you know, as a as a podcaster who's

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not afraid to call out the establishment
on multiple shows and still continue to do

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so. You know, they're multiple
times, and I know you know this

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feeling having served in Jackson for so
long as one of the very few true

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conservatives they're in Jackson, you kind
of sometimes feel like you're on an island,

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you know. So it's going to
be a good feeling to have other

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fighters you know, in this in
this fight with us, Well, it

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is an island if you're a conservative
and your principal look, it takes more

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than words to be a conservative.
You see who bears the fruit in the

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votes that they cast and how they
cast their votes. What games are they

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willing to play, What kind of
backroom deals are they willing to reach.

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These are the things that basically betray
all of us when that occurs. And

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you're right, you're one of those
podcasters that can reach out there and say

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what needs to be said without fear
of retribution. We have news organizations and

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others here in Mississippi that claim to
be conservative, but ultimately they're about protecting

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entities that already exist, protecting politicians
that already exist. The reason for that

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is they're afraid of those politicians.
They fear those politicians, so they don't

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challenge those politicians. We have to
challenge because right now the Republican Party.

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Listen, I'm a Republican and Jack
up been a Republican since I was thirteen

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years old. The present configuration of
the Republican Party sitting here today is embarrassing.

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I'm not even sure what they stand
for anymore. I know they have

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the meetings, I know they have
the cocktail parties, but what principles are

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they truly fighting for? And if
you think about it in those terms,

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the answer is not many. Not
many, you know, I mean?

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And that's a great point because serving
on executive committees, it seems like every

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month you just go through the motions
when you go to the meetings. There's

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no true positions being taken anymore.
It wasn't that way when I first got

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involved. We would send resolutions to
Jackson, we would object to things.

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But now there is this fear that
you, well, you can't call him

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out because he's a Republican. Well
is he truly a Republican if he's not

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gathering like what? No, no, he's not, or whoever it is,

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it's not what your suggestion is.
And I think it's an accurate position

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to be in these parties, especially
the Republican Party, has taken on a

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social club mentality. Political parties aren't
social clubs. They're clubs, but they're

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organized not around entities. They're organized
not around institutions. They're organized around principle.

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If you have a club that's not
fighting for principle, it's a social

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club, not a political club.
Because I'm gonna tell you the Democrats when

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they come to fight, they come
to fight. Yeah, they're not sitting

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back worrying about who they may offend. They show up throwing punches. Oh

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not us, No, No,
not our party. We're too concerned about

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offending somebody that has to end to
be successful. Now, before I'm deemed

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too harsh here, I want you
to consider something while I'm inventing. People

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say the Republicans have been putting up
a fight? Where where? When?

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And let me tell you why I
say that. Think about coal Republican principles.

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Okay, Number one, balance budgets. Balance budgets. That's a coal

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Republican principle. For the last forty
years, name one year we've balanced the

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budget. I can't for the last
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The national debt has almost doubled.
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now. Republicans have been in control
part of that time. Republicans have been

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in control certainly over the last two
generations. What part of balance budgets are

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they serious about? So you ask
yourself, Republican principal, balance budgets.

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Have we won that fighter? Lost
that fight? Over the last fifty years,

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we've lost it. Okay? Individual
liberty is growing or is it shrinking?

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Jack? Oh, it's growing.
It had a massive alarming rate every

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day. And Reagan told us specifically
that government and liberty really can't coexist in

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the same sphere of influence. So
right now, every day government grows,

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grows, grows. Get this,
even when Republicans are in control, it

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grows. So platform number two for
this party that claims it's so proud,

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you're losing balance, budgets you have, you're losing individual liberty and the growth

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of government. Okay, what's next? The social order? The cultural war?

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Loss, loss, lost, loss, and more losses. I'm tired

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of the lip service. We have
a party that's a social club, more

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concerned about perpetuating certain individuals and their
power structure than they are fighting for the

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things they claim they believe in.
Now that's going to piss people off.

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I'm okay with that. I'm sick
of watching the party circuit and the cocktail

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circuit and the lobbyist steakhouse circuit.
And I'm sick of seeing super majority of

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Republican legislatures that can't seem to steal
the tide because they won't fight. You

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know what, they won't fight.
They don't believe what Reagan believed. They

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ran as Republicans because they knew that
was the only way to get elected.

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These are democrats in disguise. That's
all, it is, Chris, We've

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come a long way from Reagan's Shining
City that he once talked about. And

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I think that part of what we're
going to have to do, and this

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this is going to be one of
the hardest parts of a recla of trying

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to reclaim the republ looking party is
that figuring out a way to get some

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of the younger blood more involved.
And the reason why it's hard is not

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necessarily because there's not young blood out
there the ones to get involved. The

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old guard doesn't want to get out
of the way. And I say that

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all the time that at some point
if you want this party to continue,

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they have to get out of way. Well, first of all, you're

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right. I'm not disagreeing with anything
you've said as your accurate, but ask

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yourself this, why would a twenty
one year old want to be a Republican.

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That's a great question. Think through
it. What do we offer that

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the Democrats don't Because we're moving to
the left and they're moving to the left.

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The only real distinction is they're moving
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we're moving at seventy five miles per
hour. Now here's the thing. So,

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consider you're twenty one years old,
you're trying to figure out which party

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should I belong to? Republicans.
Our primary spokesperson is Mitch mcconnoff. Yep,

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what, he's eighty years old.
He can barely think he had a

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touch. I mean he can barely
think. He's had a couple of press

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conferences where he literally froze up.
So you're twenty one years old, you're

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trying to be helped, You're trying
to be cool, You're trying to understand

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policy. First question, what do
they believe? It doesn't seem like they

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believe in much of anything. No. Number two who speaks for them?

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Old people that have been around forever
that, like you said, won't relinquish

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the apparatus, and so young people
are like, well, that's not cool

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now, and it's not cool.
Here's why, and here's why it's not

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cool. Miss McConnell can talk all
he wants about what he's trying to accomplish,

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and he can repeat talking points all
he wants, but the evidence before

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us shows that we're losing the political
battle in this country everywhere, on every

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issue with one exception, at this
stage in our history and that's abortion.

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How do we win that one?
How strange it took the Supreme Court nine

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unelected lawyers to fix that. Meanwhile
all of our so called republican politicians couldn't

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quite get it done. You see
the problem. So you're twenty one years

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old. The first thing you're looking
for is sincerity, and we don't govern

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them like we're sincere. You don't
think they see that. Number two,

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you're looking for some connection personally.
Mitch McConnell doesn't provide that connection. Liz

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Chaney doesn't provide that connection, and
so young people naturally gravitate to the left

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that stage. The reason is is
because they've never heard what true conservatism is.

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If you tell them what it is, and you explain to them that

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it's a live and let live mantra, when you explain to them that it

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believes in dignity of the individual and
empowerment of the individual, When you explain

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to them that we believe that free
minds and free markets right, and they

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begin to ask questions, what does
that mean? This is the help movement,

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This is the political movement that should
appeal to young people because it appeals

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to their inner sense of being self
reliant and independent, which is what Republicanism

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should offer these individuals. We don't, No, we don't. We all

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from tribalism, We don't we all
from platitudes, We don't we offerrom all

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these things. But they sense that
they're not sincere, and that's why we

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can't seem to get young people in
the party. All right, I think

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we're gonna need to get a little
bit more wood on the fire. But

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you you have touched on so and
I'm gonna so I'm gonna lead you with

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a question and then I'll grab some
Chris. You touched on something that I've

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been hitting on a lot here lately, and that's tribalism. And tribalism cuts

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both ways. This isn't just Republicans, aren't just the only Democrats are very

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tribalism as well. Don't get me
wrong, but I think that is an

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inherent problem within our country right now. Because I'm sorry, I'm a conservative.

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I believe in conservatism, not Republicanism, So I don't buy into this

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tribalism bs. I mean, I
saw during the primary or during the general

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election season, we saw a lot
of folks that ran in their in their

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county elections as independence. This go
around. Answer may, well, we're

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Republicans, so we got to support
the Republican. Well, why if the

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Republican in question is bad, why
wouldn't I support the independent? Yeah,

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it's a dangerous mindset. Now get
this, here's the great paradox of conservative

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thought, at least as far as
Republicans are concerned. The Founders feared political

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parties. The Founders warned us against
a strong true party system. They warned

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us it was dangerous. They warned
us it could deprive the great mass of

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the people of liberty. And so
despite the fact that we claim to be

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for the Founding Founders, we certainly
fall into this tribalism trail pretty quickly.

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I get it. The Democrat Party
is an absolute threat to this country survival.

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Democrats are dangerous and they have no
business governing. But I tell you

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another threat to this country's survival,
and that's rhinos. Those are people pretending

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to be Republican but still governing as
Democrats because they still get us to the

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same destination just slightly slower. So
you can't get caught up in this Republican

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versus Democrat. If we're gonna win
this country back, and Jack, you

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need to hear this. This is
the subject for us show. I think

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you can talk about for a long
time. If you're gonna win the country

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back, you're I've got to win
it back in general elections. If you

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win the country back, you're gonna
win it in the Republican primary. And

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that's why we're failing. We're so
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vote for the old Republican before the
new conservative. That's a dangerous mindset.

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Primaries is where we win this country
bay, because if we can't let conservatives,

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we're doomed. Yeah. And you
know when you talk about that and

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you talk about these folks that are
rhinos, they're abusing the very tribalism that

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we're talking about because they understand that
they can slap conservative on a push guard,

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put it on a yard sign,
and nobody's gonna do the research to

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see that they're not truly a conservative. They're just gonna see that word.

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And I was like, well,
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so I got to get behind them. They they ignore us three and a

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half of every four years. Yep. And then when we're just dumb enough

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to fall for it. They buy
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TV, and of well, la, here we are right in the same

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trap. All of a sudden,
people like Delbert Hostman are conservatives. All

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of a sudden, people like Roger
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gonna come back to that. Now
you've seen their records. You know exactly

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how they're gonna vote. And the
people that are in the know, that

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actual twenty five percent that are actually
paying attention, they know, and they're

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gonna vote accordingly. It's the great
untouched masses out there and they're sitting there

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not paying attention. But oh my, that was such a pretty TV commercial.

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What not a great radio commercial?
I think my mama went to school

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with his mama back in the twenties. Here's the thing, that's fine,

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but you're not electing conservatives of that
stage is part of that tribalism, that

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same apparatus, and that's why conservatives
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know that. That brings us back
to another point here where the you know,

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you brought up Roger Wicker. Roger
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and we've already he's already running his
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a true conservative, because everything's about
he's the strongest conservative. He's not.

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If you look at this record,
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Here's the thing about Wicker. Is
he a nice guy? Yeah?

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Yeah. I mean I've been around
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and there. I don't think he
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I don't dislike him, not personally. He's a nice guy. I

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believe he's well intended. I believe
he's a Christian guy. But I also

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believe in many ways he's a squish. Now. I mean that not be

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a disrespectful when I say that.
I mean a guy that simply does what

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he's told. And what that means
is Minch McConnell. If he can operate

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fifty one senators, that's Mitch McConnell's
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going to do exactly what he's told. And that works this way because McConnell

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has incredible resources financially and otherwise,
and Roger knows that if he can just

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float along, he can vote however
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But then he can raise that big
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at the end of the equation that
he can be successful. And he will

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be because no one really is paying
attention twenty five to thirty percent or tuned

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in that I know about. They'll
vote. They'll vote for the conservative whoever

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that is the great unwashed masses though
those little memos, which I love.

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My mother's like that. Sometimes she's
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evening. She's not paying attention to
politics, and she shouldn't. I get

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that, But she's going to watch
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most money is always going to be
successful because one more thing, I'll say,

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Oh, I've got there's one thing. I said that. But here's

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why. Poland shows that people hate
negative advertising. Yep. Poland shows that

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people believe every word of advertise yep. And so these little memos and others

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I've had are sitting there, they
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word. So who wins the guy
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the guy who's the yes man for
Mitch mcconall, And that's who Roger is.

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All right, Chris, you know
we're both sports fans. We both

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follow the world of sports. In
a lot of these professional sports leagues,

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there's a salary cap you can't pay
over x amount. Wouldn't our political arena

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be better if there was a sout
or a spending cap to that way?

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Everybody is, in theory on an
equal playing field, you know, kick

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the packs out, just make it
where you can't spend over on their amount

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for your campaign. This is where
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if you believe that money and speech
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into play, and that's the Citizens
United style of cases. So if you

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believe that money and speech are one
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that people have the right to gilt
however much they want to guilt because that's

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essentially speech, then that's a protective
classification. So you really can't curtill that

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spending, even though frankly it might
be a practical good idea. We still

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have to respect the Constitution more than
we respect decent ideas. And I know

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that sounds antiquated to some, but
we have a constitutionals designed to protect individual

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liberty and protect speech. Now,
if you choose to believe that money is

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not connected to speech, then yeah, I guess there's an argument to be

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made because it was a close case. It was a close case. I

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don't think it is person but the
conservative block did. And that's where it

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gets really interesting, because people like
Scalia, who I respect greatly in Thomas,

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they believe that it did. And
so I get that, and I

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think ultimately we have to respect that
liberty and that freedom. But is that

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always the right or the just result, or I should say, the responsible

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result. Here's why I say that
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a republican republic, right, but
it's based on democratic principles that it's designed.

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One would think jack for an educated
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I don't mean high school or college
whatever, politically educated population. That's

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really not what we have now.
And so you have to ask yourself the

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influx of money, as great as
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to influence the uneducated, politically speaking
population, and that's a danger. It

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becomes such a danger that the same
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and has for forty or fifty years. And you keep wondering why things don't

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change. Yet we have to conceive
there are some constitutional issues there we have

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to deal with to curtail that type
of spending. So it's problematic, it

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can be complicated. Right now,
Jack's getting firewood if you wonder about the

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delay, which I'm glad he's doing. But I am listening, listening,

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and again, you know, Thomas
and Scalier heroes of mine, and it's

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rare that I disagree with him,
And maybe I don't disagree with them.

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I'm just annoyed with the process because
I see a broken system broken, and

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I see a system that is being
abused by the elite, and there's very

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little that those of us, such
as myself, that don't have a ton

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of money can do about it.
And I think that's where the frustration comes

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in, and the fear I have
is that the voters are going to start

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to feel helpless. No, they
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If there's one thing you hear from
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number of people actually participating in the
process. They do that because they do

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feel helpless, and they feel hopeless. But it's a self perpetuating cycle.

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If they're helpless, if they're hopeless. In large part it's because of them.

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If they would mobilize their neighbors,
if they would make phone calls,

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if they may gill five or ten
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But most are content sitting there and
complaining about it on Facebook. They

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won't really get out there and take
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to wake those people up. If
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If you can't, we keep losing. Chris, I want to ask you

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about the race that you just were
in, you know, because again didn't

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go our way. You know,
we worked our tails off and unfortunately,

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you know, it came down to
what we were talking about. It's more

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money, you know, but it
also there was another factor in play,

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crossover voting. How do we fix
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the ones that are benefiting from the
cross every Well, consider that race,

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right, Delbert Hos was the income
but he has all this money and he

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spends all that money, and that's
really cute. He's still only got fifty

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one percent. That's fair. So
you know, had people just engaged just

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a little bit more, he would
have been defeated. But people didn't engage

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because, like you said, they
feel hopeless or helpless. There has to

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be a way at some point to
wake people up, to get them to

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understand and perhaps just their maybe trust
their their intuition, right because right now

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their intuition might be the vote for
candidate A, but invariable with the money

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of Kennedy B always sways them.
At the end, they have to get

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educated. And that's the hard part
because right now, I'm telling you,

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nobody's paying attention. One of the
great sins of politicians. They believe that

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everybody's focused on them. They believe
that every vote and everything that occurs is

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the biggest thing in the world.
Here's the answer. Nobody's watching. Nobody

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cares. Now. They say they
do, and they get all excited on

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Facebook, but if they're really watching, they would be doing something about it.

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I think one of my biggest frustrations, and I talk about this a

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lot on the show, is what
I refer to as the ones every four

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year voters. They only pay attention
to presidential races. They only get involved

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when it's when it's the presidential race. And I think that's part of what

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frustrates the heck out of me is
like we could. We could change the

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world if we started at our state
capitol. And too many folks won't do

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that. But those same folks next
year are gonna line up to vote for

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Donald Trump. Let me explain what
that's about. And this is gonna make

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people mad. It's real. They
don't know. They don't understand civics,

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they don't understand history, they don't
understand that the states have to be the

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final law between a federal government that
continues to grow out of control in individual

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liberty. They just don't get it. If they did get it, they

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would empower the states. The states
then could be there to protect them from

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abuse from the federal government if need
be. They're just not paying attention.

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And I think, frankly, most
people don't care about government anymore. They

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don't care about civics anymore. And
here's the reason for that. Man,

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this is the greatest country in the
world. We're all spoiled, rotten,

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considerate. You may think your lot
in life is bad, you're spoiled rotten

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to live here. And we've been
spoiled for a long time. Forgotten what

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tyranny feels like. We've forgotten what
abuse feels like. We don't think that

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could ever happen here. So we
lean back on our recliners and we watch

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Britney Spears and we watch Taylor's Whip
and we watch Bunday Day Football, and

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we forget that Our specific responsibility is
to engage the system so nothing bad can

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ever happen, and that does include
educating ourselves as to how the system is

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supposed to work. But Jack,
unfortunately people just aren't in tune. Hopefully

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over the next couple of years they'll
wake up. If not, man,

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the establishment will always be entrenched,
absolutely, And I think that's one of

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the huge concerns here, Chris,
is the fact that we've got to get

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folks to get off there, you
know, because start on your local city

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and county level. Get involved.
Don't just wait for a magical presidential candidate

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to solve all your problems, because
they can't. They can't. It's one

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of the great disconnects of our time. And you said it, I should

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have talked about it. Every four
years we get so excited for a president

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and I get it. It's important
and a lot of money spent a lot

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of money, and it's important and
it matters. We want a good,

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strong, president that supports our values, right, but we lose track that

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the way the things really work are
mostly local state governments, governors or tendant

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governors, you know, municipalities,
councilmen, mayors. We forget that.

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You want real change, that's where
it's going to happen. I'm going to

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say it right now. No president, whether it's Donald Trump or Ronald Reagan

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or Judd F. Kennedy, has
a power to change the things that people

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wished. They did not even a
fraction. And so people put all their

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hopes in one race, and they
think that once we retain that race,

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win it, everything's going to be
okay. That's not what the record shows.

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As much as you may love a
president, as much as you may

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love your candidate, the poor guy's
by himself. He simply cannot overwhelm the

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system. The only way to overwhelm
the system is going to be in state

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capitals, and we're losing those battles
because our attention is distracted. One more

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way is distracted. Washington. That's
the most embarrassing, dysfunctional place on the

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planet. These are the most ignorant
people in the world, not the intellects

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the congressman, let's think through it. Have you watched their hearings have okay,

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ignorance on display. But here's the
best part, or the worst part,

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as the case may be. We're
so busy watching hearings like it's a

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game show, like it's reality team
we do, and they're busy trying to

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get zingers in deuring the hearings.
So it seems like they're doing something.

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Okay, stop right there, name
something they've done. But yet anybody out

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there name a conservative victory given to
us by the United States Congress in the

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last fifty years. It's not it
doesn't exist. Doesn't exist. That's the

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problem. They're not doing anything.
It's pretend they're up there dancing the dance.

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They're up there getting our attention.
But when it comes ultimately to what's

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occurring, the government's on auto drive
in Congress has no control whatsoever. But

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here's the thing. People think that
if we just when the presidency, everything's

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going to be okay, that's just
not that's not that's not rational, and

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that's what's hurting us right now.
It is hurting us, and it hurts

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those of us that are active because
we're we're watching it, we're studying it.

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When we're we're students of history and
what's happening, and when we see

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those that we can see our neighbors, our friends that we consider to be

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smart people, but just see them
so oblivious to what's happening in Jackson or

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or even what's actually happening in Washington, because they're so wrapped up in tribalism

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that they're not following that and not
seeing that their state senator is not doing

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the job they think they are.
Well, not just state senator or not

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states, I meant either one all
of them, because the state senators are

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probably more important station in our history
than the US senators all le them.

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Yet they're not paying attention. And
it's one of the most frustrating moments of

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our life because if you don't hold
politicians accountable, no one will, which

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leads to a next interesting point.
Jack You need to come. You need

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to think about this. I want
you to consider the fact that some politicians

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will hold office simply to manage a
decline. Now, what that means is

412
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is that they don't really care about
the decline. They understand it's happening,

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but they don't want to take dress
to action to stop it because they enjoy

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being in office so much. Their
silence is kind of their complicity because we're

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nowhere lose in the country. We're
no, we're in big trouble as conservatives.

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Every time he set back with silence
and not address that, it's a

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problem. But I'm gonna tell you
something. There's a lot of lunch of

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officials that don't care. All they
want to do is whold power. That's

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all they want. As long as
they hold a seat, everything is fine.

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And here's why they are on that
ladder. They ask for permission to

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go up a step, and who
controls that if not the established order?

422
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And so the established order is presently
controlling all of it. Meanwhile the people

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who should control it, like you
said, use the word, are oblivious.

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And that's a sad day. I
agree, Chris, and uh it

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were. Let's pause right here for
a quick break. I know you've got

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some larger wood you wanted to put
on this fire, because I've got some

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other questions I want to come back
to here in just a second. But

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let's let's take a quick break right
here, Maybe run a couple of ads

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here, and we'll come right back
with the next line of questions. With

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Chris McDaniel. Alright, guys,
welcome back here to the Right Side Radio

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00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:06.400
program. I'm still sitting in here
with Senator Chris McDaniel. And that's another

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thing too, Despite you know the
fact that you won't be in the legislature

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this year, that title never goes
away. You're still Sendator Chris McDaniel for

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00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:17.279
life, right. It comes one
of those things. The rules provide that,

435
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:21.839
and tradition provides that. I'm not
saying it's acrid or it's right,

436
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but that's the way it is.
So it's one of those titles you never

437
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:27.799
lose. It's like when you're a
judge, you'll call judge the rest of

438
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.079
your life, and that's kind of
what this is like too. And especially

439
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:36.440
after sixteen dead gun years, that's
a long time to do anything, much

440
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.000
less going through that. So now, Chris, I know, you know

441
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:43.799
you were in it to win it. You wanted to be our next lieutenant

442
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:49.079
governor. But there's got to be
a part of you after sixteen years and

443
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:53.960
as many fights as you were up
there in many instances, several times getting

444
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:58.759
your tailkicked because of the establishment wing
not on the floor. Yeah, yeah,

445
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:00.839
all the time, all the time. There's got to be a part

446
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.680
of you that's happy, that's going
to be happy next month that you don't

447
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.359
have to drive up there and be
a part of that. Yeah, I'm

448
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.400
very satisfied with that. Absolutely.
You know, it's funny. This is

449
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.719
something I would not have run for
State Senate again, and that's one of

450
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the reasons I ran for LG because
I thought it was time for me to

451
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make a move the State Senate.
One of these days, we'll have a

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show on that and I'll explain just
how dysfunctional that place is and who you

453
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.199
know those individuals with sugar in their
team and won't seem to find who they

454
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are as well. That's probably best
done for another show. Yeah, but

455
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.679
it's but you're you're not bitter at
all. No, No, here's the

456
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:47.840
thing, though, I'm noted.
I did the best I could, and

457
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I thought as hard as I could, and there were others like me up

458
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there. It wasn't just me,
There were quite a few up there.

459
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But unfortunately the people, the people
will have something they say they claim they

460
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want, and then there's a difference
between what they actually want. You see,

461
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.840
what they claim they want are fighters. What they claim they want are

462
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:15.639
strong conservatives that are principal. What
they claim they want are people to be

463
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unyielding in their belief system. Here's
what they really want. They want to

464
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be whispered a fairy tale at night
and be told that everything's going to be

465
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okay because they're not willing to engage
in the sacrifice. And so there's a

466
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:36.719
big disconnect again there as well.
People want to be told it's okay.

467
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They want to feel, they want
to feel, they want to be emotional.

468
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Anybody who knows anything about governments,
about republics right now knows things aren't

469
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okay. So we find ourselves in
a weird spine, and a lot of

470
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people just don't care enough to be
in Bob. Now, with all that

471
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said, I'm venting now going back
to your original question. I'm not gonna

472
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miss it, not for a second, not that part of it. More

473
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about that in future shows. But
I'm very satisfied with right. I'm right

474
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now. That's awesome. I mean, I think that's one of the things

475
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that I part of why I wanted
to have the interview was I wanted to

476
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convey that there's you're at peace.
I saw that that night, you know,

477
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the night of the primary. When
you got up there and gave your

478
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concession speech, I was like,
he's at peace. Here's the thing.

479
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Sixteen years I have fought as hard
as I could with other Conservatives to do

480
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.239
the right thing. We won a
lot of battles. We lost most of

481
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:44.880
our battles. I think most of
us are tired of getting our Keith tipped

482
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:50.440
in and nobody coming to help.
You know, it's really easy to sit

483
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:54.559
back and elect us and they not
hold anybody else accountable. Yeah, we

484
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.519
fought and fought and fault that small
handful in both the House and the Senate,

485
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and nobody came to our assistance.
Nobody came to our aid. They

486
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:07.119
gave us lip service, but they
can come help us. And even on

487
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.360
the losses, they never learned from
them. In other words, if there's

488
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not some price you make the others
pay for not being who they claim they

489
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are, that is conservative politicians,
then what's the point. And there hasn't

490
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.719
been a price because the people as
a whole don't necessarily exact or ask for

491
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:30.920
that prize. Right, So very
much at peace, very much at peace

492
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about the whole situation. And I
can't wait to have more shows as we

493
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talk about this in the future,
because this is much more complex and much

494
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more personal from some of those relationships
than you can imagine. And I think

495
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:47.039
at some point we have to talk
about every bit of it, don't you.

496
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:52.119
Oh, I agree, And that's
going to be fun when we get

497
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to that thing show, you know. But one of the things that I

498
00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:01.840
think I'm really disappointed about going into
this legislation session is we don't have a

499
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.199
Chris McDaniel there to fight for us. We don't have a Melanie sojourn or

500
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.719
there to fight for us. Who
or do we even know yet who are

501
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:14.840
conservative champions might be? Yeah,
they're certainly there. There's some there.

502
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They're just out number, and we
have to be rule about that. The

503
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:24.159
numbers are the numbers. Think about
DC one hundred senators, right, how

504
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:31.159
many true conservatives are there? Maybe
four or five? Okay numbers. There's

505
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:36.519
nothing they can do. Yeah,
that's the bad part. The government now

506
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.280
is Delbert Hosband's government, and he's
going to move it to the left.

507
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Yep. And we have to just
learn to live with our mistakes in that

508
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regard. The question is what the
voters will learned. Not sure they ever

509
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.719
will. It seems to state is
shifted even more moderate, more democrat as

510
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:53.199
today as the day goes by.
So I'm not sure to happen, but

511
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it's going to be interesting to see. Yeah, and that's to me,

512
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:02.119
that's a sad thing to know that
this the next four years and possibly beyond,

513
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are we're delvert Houseman's state and based
on the direction that we saw.

514
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.199
I mean, this is a guy
that faults you guys against you know,

515
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:19.239
bills outlawing you know, transgenderism for
minors. And remember the people that understand,

516
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:21.559
the people that are actually paying attention, they know that. Yea,

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00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:25.760
they know that. There it is
though that great unwashed mass, you know,

518
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.320
they don't and they're gonna believe whoever
has the most money. So basically

519
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:37.320
what occurred is a state as conservative
as we claim to be, voted like

520
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:42.440
a very moderate state because the money
has that kind of powerful influence over people.

521
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So you're right, and the question
is what are we willing to do

522
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.239
about it? And so far it
doesn't seem like much. But there are

523
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.159
conservative members of the Senate. They're
just bless them, bless them, They're

524
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.920
going to be outnumbered. You know. One of my favorites right now is

525
00:39:54.960 --> 00:40:01.440
Kathy Chisholm and Senator chizel On.
This from up in North Mississippi and just

526
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:06.440
a wonderful person. And there's a
reason she's wonderful. She has a heart

527
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:09.800
for service, and this based at
her Christian believe but more importantly, heart

528
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:15.519
for service means to serve your voters, not serve the establishment, not serve

529
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the state. She's still to serve
for people. That makes sure the right

530
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.440
kind of politician to serve. So
she's one I respect very much, right

531
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go just for instance. Absolutely,
there are others. There are others,

532
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:30.079
but she's the one that comes to
mind. Oh, she's a dream guest

533
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:31.559
of mine. I need to have
her on at some point because I always

534
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:36.639
love to sit down and talk with
her. You know, Chris, we're

535
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in the middle of a culture war, there's no denying that, and the

536
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left has gotten very, very aggressive
in the things that are pushing. I

537
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never thought if you had told me
fifteen twenty years ago it had ten years

538
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ago, if you had told me
that transgenderism, that if I said that

539
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I thought a man is born a
man and that a woman is more than

540
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a woman, that I could somehow
be called a bigot for stating a scientific

541
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:08.760
fact that it's insane. How do
we how do we win in these things?

542
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When we've got the media and we've
got these schools out there that are

543
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:16.960
teaching our kids, in doctrinating our
kids, it's nonsense. Well, you

544
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:22.559
know, the kid thing, that's
easy to fix. The right legislation could

545
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:27.519
fix that. You can't let these
professors and these public school teachers bring us

546
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.559
those kids. So that's the first
thing. The other fix is much more

547
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:37.239
complicated, and it begins I think
with the a process of values being eroded.

548
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Over time, things are different.
Some will say for the better,

549
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.159
some will say for the worst.
But consider the music. I think music

550
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:50.719
is a cultural indicator. Yes,
right, I agree. The other night

551
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.920
I was listening to some music from
the fifties, early mid fifties, early

552
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.559
sixties, and listen to the lyrics, and you say, well, that's

553
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the lame part of our history.
Of that's a dull part of our history.

554
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:06.800
The lyrics, although at times could
be implicitly risque, I will grant

555
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:10.840
that most of which though we're loving
and kind and traditional and the search for

556
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:16.639
love and patriotism even in some of
the songs. Right, what about now

557
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:22.679
compared to then the music is a
it's a bail weather. It tells you

558
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.039
about the culture even as you're listening, right, and now we see this

559
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:31.320
culture that's coarsened and harsh and nasty. Now the question is, how do

560
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:37.800
you reverse that? Because of the
fall of culturally speaking from the fifties to

561
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:43.159
now has been dramatic, and it's
been one sided. How do you reverse

562
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:47.840
it? Recognizing that the younger people
are even more socially permissible and socially liberal

563
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:52.280
than even once like you and me, The question is it's going to be

564
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.400
really difficult. We have to concede
that we have to figure some things out

565
00:42:55.440 --> 00:43:00.079
because right now we are losing the
culture war across the board. Absolutely we

566
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.559
are. I mean you've got to
and I talked about this on this week's

567
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:08.559
show. You've got the groups up
there starting an after school Satan club,

568
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:15.440
you know, which is absurd sounding
And in my personal opinion, I said

569
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.480
this on the show, I think
these aren't Satanists doing this. These are

570
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:23.400
liberals trying to push the needle because
they want. Ultimately, what they're hoping

571
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:28.440
for, Chris is they're hoping for
us to overreact and ban everything so that

572
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:31.800
way Christian clubs go away, Everything
goes away. And that's my fear is

573
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that we're we're going to overreact.
We do typically it's as though we we

574
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:43.880
don't value our liberty as much as
we fear theirs. I know that's a

575
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:47.639
complicated statement, so let me try
to explain. The culture as a whole

576
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.480
has always been mostly Christian, and
I really wish that was still the case,

577
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:54.320
and I wish churches were more involved, and I wish souls were being

578
00:43:54.360 --> 00:44:00.280
saved, and I wish somehow there's
a way to influence the cultural the our

579
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.320
belief systems, as opposed through force
of government. I don't think it's our

580
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:08.880
role to pass laws dictating to people
how they should behave. The problem we've

581
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:16.280
got now is a culture that is
engrossed in these new ways, and man,

582
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:20.960
you think about the ways to fix
it, it can't be necessarily legislatively,

583
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.960
although we can ban what's being taught
to school children. But it's much

584
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.400
wider than that, isn't it.
It is so culturally. What's the best

585
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.760
way to influence a culture. The
answer has always been religion. It's always

586
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:37.440
been Christianity, But it seems the
churches are waning in their influence in their

587
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:43.280
regard. Can they still win maybe, But man, look at what they're

588
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:49.079
up against, right, Yeah,
they're up against cultural institutions like college campuses,

589
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:53.599
like the music industry, like the
Hollywood industry. Hollywood makes things normal

590
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:59.000
what used to be considered really out
normal, right, But after two or

591
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:00.519
three movies were decent, the times
can all of a sudden it kind of

592
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:05.519
makes sense. So we're losing the
war subconsciousness as well. It's a dangerous

593
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:09.400
place. I'm hoping that one day, not maybe this is wishful think.

594
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:14.239
Can you tell me? We've seen
in the past where there were great revivals,

595
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:17.360
and I'm hoping that one day there
will be a spiritual revival in this

596
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:22.599
country. Now that should never translate
into us dictating by force of law our

597
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:28.320
belief system. We're talking about culture, right, and I'm just hoping that

598
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:34.480
one day that we're more culturally influential
than we are now. Years ago,

599
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.079
some of these ads on TV would
have never been My Goodness, would have

600
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.039
never been run, and you know
why, because they knew if they run

601
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:44.480
them, nobody would shot there.
Now it seems just the opposite, it

602
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.039
seems, but they're run them just
to kind of how far can we push

603
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:51.199
the mound? We push it right, and they're betting you guys won't do

604
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:55.360
anything. And guess why we haven't
done anything? Normally we complain about them

605
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:59.480
and then, you know, a
perfect example is bud Light. You know,

606
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.280
for a while everybody was mad at
them. Their stocks went down,

607
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.760
but now everybody's like, oh,
well, we need to forgive them,

608
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.239
you know. So we even if
we do take them a fight, we

609
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:12.519
seem to not stick with the fight. Yeah, we're not good long term

610
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.920
warriors, are we. There'll be
about three months we get good and ticked

611
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.320
off and then but li will you
know, have a nice traditional patriotic commercials

612
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:22.360
where they'll have Peyton Manning and Emmett
Smith show up and then all the clause

613
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.320
deals whatever the case can be right
and this thing and everybody's drinking it again.

614
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:30.119
Whatever to each their own. But
that's a small example as to the

615
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:35.960
broader cultural war. If you know
Hollywood is hurting the minds of your children,

616
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.840
the answer is not to make law
abolishing the thought process. The answer

617
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:44.079
is to get ahead of it and
try to find a way to beat it

618
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.000
Otherwise. Yes, and that's not
what we've been doing for an awfully long

619
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:51.239
time. We're reacting. Yeah,
I do want to say, when it

620
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:53.760
comes to some of the stuff that
Hollywood's been putting out, I've been really

621
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:59.320
encouraged at seeing some of the box
office is of some of these more preachy

622
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.239
movies doing further and further down.
So it seems like maybe we are doing

623
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:05.280
a little bit more than we have
in the past. I think so in

624
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.559
that respect, I think that's happening. It takes a bit more than that.

625
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:13.360
When you think about all the major
institutions in this country and how they

626
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:20.000
control thought, they typically are ignoring
right now, Christian speech. That's something

627
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.159
else we've got to fix. Now. You can't do it with legislation or

628
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:27.719
with law or by force of law. It has to be done by hearts

629
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.960
and minds of individuals and people,
and you've got to reach those people first.

630
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:35.159
I think religion can certainly do that, and I'm hoping it would play

631
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:38.280
a more dominant role in doing that. Yet, over the last thirty years

632
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:42.440
or so, we seem to be
losing more than we're winning. And again,

633
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.559
Jack, that's a conversation for another
show, because we're talking about really

634
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:50.239
broad issues here, and you could
take that one issue, why are we

635
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.320
losing the cultural war? And that's
a three hour show, absolutely it is,

636
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:58.280
and I look forward to having those
with you. And again you talked

637
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:04.039
about that, you're going to you're
working on stuff with Jim. I've talked

638
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:08.239
with Jim about it too. Chris
and the Right Side, it was something

639
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:12.039
you and I started together. You
were the main host. I was your

640
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.800
sidekick back in the early days.
And if you want the Right Side,

641
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.320
if you want the name, it's
yours, Chris. I mean I will.

642
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.400
I will give you back the Right
Side and go back to being your

643
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.719
number two. However you want to
do it. You know, whatever you

644
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.719
and Jim are thinking here, right
so Ide will always exist. And right

645
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:31.360
now you're the host. You keep
that aligne And I think what we'll do

646
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:35.719
is, yeah, there's a show
that he's created for me. You'll come

647
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:37.880
over and help me with that show. That'd be fun, and we'll dive

648
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.840
right back into it from two areas. You'll have the Right Side, it'll

649
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:45.280
be rolling, and then whatever show
he has will work on that one as

650
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:49.239
well. It'll be a collaborative effort, like yeah, absolutely, well,

651
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.480
I think you know when I already
sent this to Jim By the way,

652
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.880
I think I found an intro for
whatever show you do next. Can I

653
00:48:55.920 --> 00:49:00.480
play it for you? It's a
blast room the past for you. I'll

654
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:07.800
hear it. My guest tonight is
a huge conservative talk show host, not

655
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:19.719
Limbaugh huge, but up there please
welcome Christian. Yeah, very charismatic guy.

656
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.320
Had a lot of folks that followed
him. You know, beat up

657
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:47.519
people. What are we talking about? This is conservative talk radio and we

658
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:52.480
are on. We are on.
What was the thing that I don't remember?

659
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:55.039
I remember? And I said this
on the air when I played it,

660
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:58.800
because I used that to announce you
were going to be the guest on

661
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:04.320
the hundredth episode. I said it. Then I said, I remember doing

662
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:06.800
it in the air, and you
were so tickled by that. Our old

663
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:10.320
producer Jeremy put it in when he
put that together, and for the life

664
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.760
of me, I don't remember the
contact. It is pretty funny. In

665
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:15.239
fact, in one of your shows, or maybe my show we're gonna be

666
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:20.159
working on, we should take that
where you yell treason and never talking.

667
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.000
Somebody sus that it disagrees with this. We could push the button and play

668
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:25.400
trees. Well if I can,
if I have the audio on any files

669
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:28.800
I will, I will send it
over there. Do that. Let's get

670
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:32.280
take a word treason, and we'll
be like the present tribalist of the day.

671
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:36.280
We'll say, if you disagree with
us, you must be committed treason.

672
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:38.000
Can you say it again like that? I'm sure I can again right

673
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:42.320
now? Treason. It's not as
good as it was. That's working in

674
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:46.199
if you're not agreeing with every word. Jack Fairschall says, you're committee treason.

675
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:52.039
Now you're an American. There you
go. You know, Chris,

676
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.480
it's gonna be a fun, exciting
adventure, you know, and I look

677
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:59.360
forward to I mean, and I
think I've told you this before. The

678
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.719
most fun I ever had in broadcasting
was those days in the Right Side when

679
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:06.719
it was you and you and I, because I mean, it was like

680
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.760
going in every day and sort of
like what we're doing tonight, just sitting

681
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:15.039
down and having a conversation with my
best friend. You. In those days,

682
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:19.639
you didn't want me to know what
you were covering because you wanted that

683
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.559
visceral response out of me. And
I remember those first couple of shows.

684
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:24.400
I was so mad at you.
I was like, I want to know,

685
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:29.400
but it was a better show that
I didn't. Sadly, nowadays,

686
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.079
I'm not sure you'll be able to
pull too many oak because I'm having to

687
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:36.400
do my own so I'm doing so
much studying. But I think that there's

688
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:38.960
still going to be a way that
we're going to be able to and there's

689
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:43.079
going to be stories out there you'll
find that I want. So it's going

690
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.159
to be a lot of fun when
we get to that point and get back

691
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:50.199
into it. Do we have any
idea of any timetables or anything like that

692
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.679
or is that which we're waiting on? Gym we're waiting. But I think

693
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:53.960
it's going to be a march.
But you know, bear in mind that

694
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:57.840
it takes a lot of work and
effort to put these things together. So

695
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:00.920
but I think march. And you
know, it's funny. Back when we

696
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:07.199
first started, you're right that give
and take where you were hear the story

697
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.760
for the first time. That was
good radio because you were as shocked as

698
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:13.239
the listeners when they heard it for
the first time, and that made good

699
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:16.159
radio. But you're right now,
h you're you're pretty well versed on what's

700
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:19.480
going on. You may already know, but now, look, we still

701
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:23.599
had a good mentor well, we
still but we still need the emotional reactions

702
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:27.760
sometimes, right, That makes good
radio. Although if you say you know,

703
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.440
certain things, you can't say like
Mama Seta, Oh, I hope

704
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:35.519
you're not running for anything again,
because you just you just disqualified yourself.

705
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.880
I even say the word there,
you know, Chris. That's That's the

706
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:44.559
other thing that I still cracks me
up is out of context. How they

707
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:47.159
could take little things and just try
to twist it, you know. And

708
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:52.000
that's that's the way how they operate. But it's even scarier nowadays because you've

709
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:54.440
got AI out there to where they
can just take your voice and make you

710
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.960
say stuff. Oh goodness. So
that's I think that's one thing that all

711
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:02.880
politicians and others that are in the
public I'm concerned about. You think about

712
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:07.280
these, even the deep fake videos. I saw one the other day with

713
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:12.960
Tom Cruise. I saw I saw
that it looked just like Tom Cruise,

714
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:16.320
I do. You can't trust video
anymore, you can't trust audio anymore.

715
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:19.559
What that really means, though,
Jack GISs, we got to get a

716
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.599
lot smarter. Yeah, I mean, just because we see something we should

717
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.800
probably second guess up immediately. I'm
to the point now that man, I'm

718
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:30.519
blown away by what we're witnessing.
Yeah, and I've got to get second,

719
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:34.960
third, and fourth sources before I
well, like even before you know,

720
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.880
I mentioned the after the after school
Satan Club, I saw people sharing

721
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:42.000
it on Facebook, and before I
would cover it, I'm like, that

722
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.440
can't be real, because I mean, so much of that stuff that we

723
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.559
see get shared when you actually go
and research and it's not real. And

724
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:51.599
then I found the AP story on
and I'm like, I guess I can

725
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:54.800
trust the Associated Press. Not always, but you know, they're supposed to

726
00:53:54.800 --> 00:54:00.199
be credible. Uh, you know, Chris, a couple of things before

727
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:02.599
we wrap up. You know,
first off, this is Christmas, you

728
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:07.679
know, and it is a time
where we're you know, supposed to be

729
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:13.599
valuing and of course, the day
after this episode will release, you're doing

730
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:20.480
your annual Merry Christmas turkey giveaway.
This is the eighteenth time, eighteenth time

731
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:24.480
that we have done this turkey giveaway. And why is it still so important

732
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:29.480
for you to do this? I
mean, because you know, it would

733
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:30.719
have been really easy for you to
say, you know, I'm not fooling

734
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:36.079
with it this year. Yeah,
it's you know, it's funny. When

735
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:39.360
we first started, we were trying
to make a statement about the importance of

736
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:45.239
Christ and Christmas because it was a
response to these corporations in Hollywood that was

737
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:49.679
basically taken Christ out of the Christmas
aspect, right. So we responded and

738
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:52.480
we said, okay, if you
come, you have to say Merry Christmas

739
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:57.360
and then it get a free turkey. Yeah, we learned over the years

740
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:02.559
that that's important, but the ability
to help people is even more important.

741
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.800
If you're a conservative and you say
that government can't be the answer to all

742
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:13.199
problems, and you recognize that government
assistance and aid can actually lead to more

743
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:16.440
problems, then you have a responsibility
to do our best to help and that's

744
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:21.679
what I've always tried to do in
this turkey giveaway. I didn't understand the

745
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.079
significance at first, but over the
years, when you see people pull up

746
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:30.199
and they've bladed in line for a
long time, some of them hours,

747
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:36.280
and they receive the turkey and they
have tears in their eyes, that changes

748
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:38.719
a life. That's one of the
reasons I want my sons to be there

749
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.400
and why they've been given the turkeys
out. I want them to see what

750
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:46.320
it means because we're very blessed.
Not everybody has the same blessings, and

751
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:52.039
so our job as people, as
individuals, and as conservatives is to reach

752
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:55.159
out and help as many as we
can. And so, man, now

753
00:55:55.159 --> 00:56:00.280
I don't know how I'll stop.
It's gotten to be important to people and

754
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:02.280
I want them to be okay,
and I want them to know that people

755
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:05.400
are out there at the love them
and care for them. Well, there's

756
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:07.719
some people there, they're there every
year and this is the only way they're

757
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:10.360
going to get a turkey for Christmas. And I think that's why it's so

758
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:15.239
special what you do with this event. And of course, you know,

759
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.480
you've got people like me that help
manage the traffic. You've got people like

760
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:22.800
Gerald Wade that helped make sure that
we secured the turkeys. Kelvin Dogg Smith

761
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:27.360
who made a point to make sure
that we have the church, you know,

762
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:30.039
to give it away, you know, give the turkeys away. I

763
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:34.559
mean, you've got so many folks
out there that show up and help,

764
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:38.960
and we've grown in our volunteers throughout
the years. It's it's really special.

765
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:43.079
You know, it really is a
special event. It really is. The

766
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:47.679
names you mentioned and others you know
without their help it will be impossible to

767
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:52.239
get this done. You've helped tremendously. The others have felt tremendously and so

768
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:55.360
yeah, they're you know what's funny. They don't do it because they're trying

769
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:59.119
to get their name and lights.
They do it because they feel like it's

770
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:04.039
the right thing to do. And
I feel bad I'm forgetting names like Richard

771
00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:07.199
Conrad, Don Harden. You know, there's so many I can't name Jennifer

772
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:10.880
Jennifer in there. There have been
other John Chandler showed up, and there's

773
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:15.039
been a lot of people over the
years that I really value in my life

774
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:19.800
and I adore and they've come through
and they've done their best to help because

775
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:22.719
they are good, good people.
So yeah, I'm looking I'm looking forward

776
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.599
to it. But uh, you
know, Chris, the last thing that

777
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:29.199
I really wanted to get to and
this is more of a personal thing,

778
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:31.519
you know, because of course this
year has been a hard year for me.

779
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:37.000
You know, I lost my dad
and one thing that I wanted to

780
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.119
and I thank you on the air
for this, But you were in the

781
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:46.519
middle of a heated election, yet
you canceled all your events that day,

782
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:51.000
so you could be there at that
funeral just to support me and be there

783
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:54.280
for me, and why I gave
my dad's eulogy. One of the things

784
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:58.039
that touched me the most is I
remember talking to you the night before and

785
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:01.480
telling you I'm not sure if I
do it, and he said, first

786
00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:06.840
off, you can, but if
you can't, tap me on the shoulder,

787
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:09.920
I've got something for you. Yeah. And that meant the world to

788
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:15.159
me, both that you were able
to be there every one of my friends

789
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:19.119
that was able to make it there, you know, it was you know,

790
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:22.880
my dad thought the world of you, you know, and being able

791
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:27.199
to have you be there and be
willing to step in if I just was

792
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.159
too overcome and couldn't have done it, that meant the world to me,

793
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:34.079
Chris, and I just wanted to
take this opportunity to thank you for that

794
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:37.000
in person. Man. I appreciate
you saying that. Jimmy, your dad

795
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:42.519
was a really good man, and
I loved my time around him. He

796
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:46.960
had such a good personality, and
he was stern and stubborn and cores but

797
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:51.360
at the same time hilarious, and
he was just the perfect balance of what

798
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:53.880
we think men should be. He
loved you very much, and he loved

799
00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:59.280
his wife and his daughter and his
other son very much. And I saw

800
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:02.760
that through eyes over the years,
and so you were blessed to have a

801
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:07.119
good dad, just as I was. And so it was my honor to

802
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.079
be there, and I would I
would do anything for you guys. You

803
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:15.199
know, it's a club that we
all unfortunately, if we live longer than

804
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:17.440
our parents, we all eventually join. But it's a club none of us

805
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:22.360
want to join. But I am
grateful, you know that I had somebody

806
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:28.360
that knew what I was feeling.
And those that I'm still have anger and

807
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:31.639
sadness around, especially during Chris.
I mean, it's gonna be a hard

808
00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:34.920
Christmas. You know, it's fun
that we could have a whole show on

809
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:38.199
that. Yeah, because people that
are listening, they know if they've lost

810
00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:42.840
a parent, if they've lost a
child, especially a child, goodness gracious,

811
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they know. And so these holidays, man, there's a sense of

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happiness, there's a sense of gloom, and it's because we miss them so

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much, right, And so man, there's a whole of the show as

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to how we navigate the pain from
loss year to year through the holidays and

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why matters that we move past it, but man, do you ever really

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move past it? Most of us
never will move past it. Absolutely well,

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I think we got to wrap up
because I think our listeners heard your

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son Cambridge tell he's cooking dinner for
everybody tonight, so I think let's go.

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He's like, y'all come on,
So I'm going to start at the

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outro here, Chris, But thank
you so much for doing this. This

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is your first sit down interview since
the election. I'm honored that you chose

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to do it with me and really
look forward to March when we but hopefully

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i'll have you all before then and
we can have one more proper announcement.

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Let's do it, guys, it's
the Right Side Radio program. I do

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plan on putting something out Christmas weekend
that is more spirited nature, not political,

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but something that we can that you
can take with you on your drive

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to your family wherever you're going next. Thank y'all so much for listening.

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We'll see you again real soon.
S