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Right, welcome in Florida Football Insider's podcast,

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our post college football Playoffs selection episode. We had some controversy obviously in

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the college football Playoff selection. Florida
State thirteen and Oer gets left out,

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Texas Alabama gets put in. So
we're gonna discuss the different scenarios which kind

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of we think might have influenced the
committee in making the decision that they made.

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We are going to talk with Reenie
in Golia. Renie is a ESPN

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college football analyst based here in the
Orlando area. Reenie Covers has covered many

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of the State of Florida football teams
this year. He's had a Miami game.

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He's got relationships with Mike Norvel,
Gus Malzon, Alex Golish. So

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we're gonna talk to Reenie about the
college football playoff selection process. We're gonna

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talk to Reenie about the progress that
he sees at Florida, at Florida Miami,

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UCF and USF and such, and
then we're going to talk to Reenie

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about his career a little But he's
had he had a very good college career

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as a player. He's been a
broadcaster for ESPN for numerous years now.

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He even played in the World Bowl
way back in the day. So we're

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gonna get into into Reenie's career a
little bit. And I said, you'll

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enjoy our conversation. We're getting really
in depth in why Florida State was left

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out, some of the possible reasons, some of the scenarios of what happened,

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and you'll get some really good insight
from Renie on that whole process.

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A couple things on the Florida State
situation before we get into the Bowl matchups

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with the State of Florida teams.
A couple things to remember, in my

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view, had Tate Rodimaker played well
against Florida, they would have gotten the

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benefit of the doubt against Louisville.
Even though he didn't play in the Louisville

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game road to Baker played very average
at best and Gainesville, Florida State was

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fairly fortunate to get out of that
game alive. Remember they were down twelve

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to nothing. They did give them
credit, they did come back. The

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defense played really well, but Rodamaker
was very average. And here's another thing

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about Roda Maker in the backup quarterback
situation. Remember Jordan Travis got hurt in

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the second quarter the week before against
North Alabama, so Radamaker had an opportunity

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to play basically two and a half
quarters of the North Alabama game leading into

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the Gator game. He did not
play very well against Florida. In my

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view, I think he threw for
like one hundred and twenty five hundred and

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thirty yards against Florida. You have
to be able to do better than that

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against a very, very very average
Florida defense. I understand it was a

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tough environment in Gainesville, but that's
just a situation where you have to play

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better. Had Rodimaker played better even
though he got concussed, I think the

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committee would have given Florida State the
benefit of the doubt. Beating Louisville with

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the third string quarterback. The other
question I get is why didn't the committee

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move down after the Florida game.
Why did the committee not move down Florida

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State out of the number four spot
to number five or number six? If

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you remember, nobody knew Tate.
Rodemaker was concussed until about Friday before that

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Louisville game that there was not a
thought that he wasn't going to play in

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the Louisville game. The Committee was
going to give Maker another game against Louisville

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to show that he had a command
of the offense and that he could score

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some points. I said on my
podcast, the Powers on Sports podcast last

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week, if Florida State did not
score at least twenty four points against Louisville,

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there was a real chance they could
get left out. Remember they only

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scored sixteen. Rodimaker was not ruled
out of that Louisville game until Saturday morning.

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Friday afternoon is win all the speculation
really started to heat up that he

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might not play. So on Tuesday
night, when the Committee brought out their

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rankings, their penultimate rankings, everybody
was under the assumption Rodamaker was gonna play.

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The committee was gonna give Rodimaker one
more week to show that he could

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move the offense and score a bunch
of points, and obviously that didn't happen

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because he didn't play in the third
string quarterback really looked, really looked like

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a deer in the headlights on Saturday
night in Charlotte, which was on which

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in an unwatchable game. Defense is
really good at Florida State. No qualms

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about the defense, but you cannot
put a team with a potential backup quarterback

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that cannot move the ball very effectively. To me, that was the reason

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I don't have a problem with the
committee's a validation of the other teams.

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It was just it was a bad
year for Florida State and that there were

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five there were really six really good
teams, including Georgia, and only four

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spots available. And you have to
take into account the Jordan Travis injury,

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especially when Rodimaker does not play very
well against Florida on Thanksgiving weekend, and

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everybody says, well, they gave
Ohio State the benefit of the doubt.

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Well, Ohio State got the benefit
of the doubt because Cardele Jones. Back

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in twenty fourteen, the third string
quarterback came in and beat Wisconsin fifty nine

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to nothing, and he played really
well in the game. So again,

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had Rodimaker played well against Florida,
Florida State would have gotten the benefit of

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the doubt even though they didn't score
a bunch of points against Louisville with the

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committee in my view, So there's
my analysis on Florida State. Again,

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I'm a Florida State guy played there, so I have full empathy for the

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program, for the players, But
I think in the end, being objective

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and this is what you know you
have to do if you're gonna be in

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this in this sports commentating where you
have to be objective. Here, I

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think they got the right four teams
in the playoff UH, and the and

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they rated And again the other question
you're gonna hear is why did they rate

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Florida State ahead of Georgia in the
final rankings. Well, I think the

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ultimate tiebreakord between Florida State and Georgia
was Florida State won a conference championship.

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They're gonna put their five conference champions
ahead of a team that didn't win a

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conference championship. UH. In this
scenario, Florida State was the fifth team,

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the fifth conference champion. That's why
in my view, they were rated

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in front of Florida, I mean
in front of Georgia in the final rankings.

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They are gonna play Georgia in the
Orange Bowl, which which is be

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one of the Marquee Bowl matchups.
Obviously, we don't know who's gonna play

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from both teams as far as the
guys that are NFL bound, the brock

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Bauers, the Yeared versus of the
world uh, Carson Beck potentially, so

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we don't know which of those guys
gonna play, but Florida will. Florida

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State will play Georgia in the Orange
Bowl. Other bowl matchups involving Florida teams

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you got the uh you got out
the Outback Bowl, the relya Quest Bowl,

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Wisconsin LSU in the Boca Bowl,
the Boca Raton Bowl, you're gonna

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have USF making a bowl. Great
job by Alex Golish getting the six and

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six. Uh. They are gonna
play Syracuse down in Boca Raton in mid

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December. Obviously Syracuse going through a
coaching chain, so there'll be an interim

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coach there. But USF going down
to Boca Ratone to play Syracuse, in

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the Boca Raton Bowl, in the
Gasparilla Bowl. Here in Tampa, it's

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gonna pit UCF, who got Bowl
eligible by beating UH in their last game

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of the year. They won their
last game of the year to get Bowl

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eligible. They're gonna play Georgia Tech
from the ACCUH. A lot of speculation

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that they the Gasparilla Bowl was gonna
pit USF and UCF to UH to play.

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I think one of the reasons they
did not do that was one I

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think the bowls obviously part of the
bowl. The Bowl, any bowl game

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is you want to bring in fans
from out of town to stay overnight in

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a hotel for a couple of nights, whether it's one night, two nights,

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spend a little money in the city
and all that stuff. And I

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think with bringing in Georgia Tech,
you're gonna get some fans from Atlanta that

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will come down for the either night
or two before the game, spend some

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money hotels. Whereas if you had
UCF and USF, both those teams are

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within an hour and a half drive. Obviously USF is here in Tampa,

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so you're not gonna you would not
have had any of the extra restaurant revenue,

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hotel revenue, stuff like that that
I think you would. You're gonna

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get a little bit from the UCF
and the Georgia Tech people. Even the

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UCF people. Most of those fans
will probably commute the day of, but

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Georgia Tech will have will have fans. They have not been in a bowl

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game, They've they in a little
bit, so they'll bring some fans down,

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stay in the hotel, spend some
money, things like that. I

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think that was unfortunately one of the
reasons that that that game did not get

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matched up u CF because it had
been a great rivalry game. If you

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don't know, USF and UCF are
big rivals here. The War on I

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four is what it's called. They're
not playing now that the use USF is

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out of that. UCF went to
the Big twelve. So that would have

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been a ticket seller from a ticket
perspective. But now you got UCF and

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Georgia Tech and the gas Parola Bawl
Pinstripe Bowl is gonna pit Rutgers in Miami.

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Interesting match up there. You got
Chiano up at pitt I mean at

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Rutgers, excuse me, Miami and
Christobaul Tyler Van Dyke is under the transfer

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portal, so he's he's moving on, so he won't be playing in the

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game. So that Pinstripe Bowl,
I believe that's in Yankee Stadium. I

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believe. Uh. So that'll pit
Miami and Rutgers. Uh that could be

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a decent game. Obviously, we
talked about your Bowl FSU and Georgia.

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We don't I would expect Rodamaker to
play, but we don't know the status

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of some of the you know,
the big players at Florida State at the

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Keyon Coleman's, Johnny Wilson's, Jared
versus those kind of guys, as well

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as the Georgia guys Bowers, Carson
Beck, some of the Georgia maybe defensive

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players that might get drafted, So
we don't know the status of them playing.

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I would doubt they would not play. Would be my expectation for them

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not to play because of their draft
status and they're not really playing for anything

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of note. But we will see
how that goes. So there's your Bowl

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matchups involving the State of Florida teams
again overall, goodyear throughout the state.

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Again, Florida State, you'll hear
our conversation with Reenie and Golah talking about

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all the different scenarios and things that
factored into the Florida state decision. And

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we will also preview the final four
playoff games with Reenie Alabama Michigan and the

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Rose Bowl and Texas Washington and the
Sugar Bowl. So you'll enjoy that conversation

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as well. So uh powers on, I mean excuse me, uh.

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Podcast. We've had a great year
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back to prominence. Florida State obviously
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We are going to talk a little
college football playoff, we're gonna talk

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a little bowl season, and we're
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four here with mister Reene and Golia. He is an ESPN analyst. He

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was a two time All American running
back at University of Massachusetts back in the

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day, back when I was even
playing. He is even a two thy

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and twenty four College Football Hall of
Fame ballot consideration, meaning he can be

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going to the College Football Hall of
Fame next year. And he's a two

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thousand and seven University of Massachusetts Hall
of Famer Welcome into your debut appearance on

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the podcast, Miss Reeney. Thanks
for having me. Jason, it's my

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pleasure. All right. Take me
back to your days at U mass A

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little bit playing running back. How
fun? I mean, just talk about

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the glory, not the glory,
but just the enjoyment you had playing.

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You had such a successful career,
a two time All American at you Mass,

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you were a nineteen ninety nine World
Bowl champion professional football. Talk about

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that world, that experience playing overseas. Yeah, I mean, first of

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all, going back to you,
man, I mean, obviously, I

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think we can all degree college football
is much different today than it was in

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the early nineties when I played.
You can say for the better, for

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the worse. It's just different,
right, I think we can all agree

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on that. Listen. And you
know I was pretty highly heavily recruited coming

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out of high school in Rochester,
New York. I tore my ACL my

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senior year. So you do that
in the late eighties early nineties, you're

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just done. So the University of
Massachusetts, smaller Division one school, was

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the only school in the country that
gave me a full scholarship, So obviously

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I went there, got to start
for four years, became in All America,

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had a really nice career there.
I mean, I owe everything I've

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done in football and accomplished in football
to that place. It's great. I

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mean, I'm a huge supporter of
them. Now they're going through a rough

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patch. For those that don't know, they they're not in a conference.

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They play independent. There's only one
school that can live in the independent world,

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and that's Notre Dame. And even
Notre Dame, as soon as that

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NBC money stops, they're going to
get into a conference. And I you

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know, I talked to the athletic
director, Ryan Bamford this week. I

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know he's working really hard for the
athletic program there to get them into a

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conference. So hopefully they will.
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I you know, like all of
us, you know, I missed

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the relationships, the good The one
good thing about social media, as crappy

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as it is, when we you
know, just hear the crappy things people

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say, it keeps you in touch
with people. Yeah, and so that

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part of it's great. But it
was good. I like to tell people

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I had a couple and a half
of coffee in the NFL. I was

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with the Redskins for a season on
practice squad. Then I was with the

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Bills for a couple couple of seasons, made to the fifty three men roster,

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and then finished it off as you
said, in nineteen ninety nine played

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in the NFL Europe won the World
Bowl with a Frankfurt Galaxy. Jake Diloan

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was our quarterback. So that's a
great memory. The last time I ever

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touched the football, we won a
championship and I got to score a touchdown

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in that game. So I always
have that fond memory, and you got

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to play with. Kind of the
growth of football in Europe was just take

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it off about you know, playing
overseas and culture. Just talk about that

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experience of playing in front of people
who really didn't know the game very well

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and just kind of teaching them the
game as you went along. Germany loves

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American football. They do they back
when we've been. I don't know if

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they changed it now, but they
didn't call it talent getting. They called

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it power partying because they can drink
over there. So they love American football.

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And you saw that the NFL finally
went there this year. They'll definitely

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go back to Germany, because it
doesn't matter where Germany you are. They

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really like American football, and let's
face it, the NFL football in general

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is the number one sport here in
America. They have to try to grow

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it, you know, in Europe, and I think they will and it

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would not surprise me in the next
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for there's probably gonna be NFL franchises
in Europe. They'll they'll make it

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happen, There's no doubt about it. And that's where their growth is right

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now. Speaking of partying or all
the rumors true about how Amherst is a

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is party central zoom mass Yes,
it was, and so when I went

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there, I want to say,
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twenty thousand. Graduate students was about
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I think they're up. Undergrads they're
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over forty thousand, approaching that fifty
thousand marks. So yeah, it's definitely

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a party school. I just wish. So the University of Massachusetts, we're

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in western mass right Amherst, mass
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university for the state but it kind
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West because Boston is Boston, and
I'm not afraid to say it is they

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do not give the support that they
need to to the flagship university, which

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is University of Massachusets at Amhersty.
You know when I went there, Jason,

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I always looked at it that I
said, Man, this could be

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a University of Michigan, this could
be a Penn State. They have a

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Yes, they have all the room
in the world to build a beautiful stadium.

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That stadium, Warren McGirk Alumni Stadium
was built in the sixties. They

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haven't done a thing to it.
Now they've upgraded to press box and they

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put an end zone, football facility, their locker room, weight room which

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is beautiful, the stadium in and
of it stuff. They haven't done a

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thing. They have to put money
into that university and so hopefully the power

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is to be in Boston do But
to be frank, they just don't.

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They don't care enough about the University
of Massachusetts and they need to. Yeah,

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they need You were there and weren't
you there during the kind of the

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heyday of Califari yep. Yeah,
still talk to Marcus Canby today great basketball

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program. The problem and it kind
of it's an actual great question. The

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problem that I think a lot of
hardcourt University of Massachusets athletic fans, the

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older fans, do they think about
those glory basketball days, which is great,

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Those days are gone. We live
in a world where basketball is a

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big deal. H Football's driving the
bus. Basketball is on of us,

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but football drives. It's just just
the way it is. I didn't make

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it that way. You look at
TV money and what's going on. You

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have to get behind your football program
and then all the other sports will benefit

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from that. And there's been people
reluctant to do that. You know,

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everyone talks about the Atlantic ten.
The Atlantic ten was a great basketball convience.

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It was. It's not what it
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So I think the athletic department needs
to look elsewhere and just kind of look

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at the look at the uh you
know, the floor plan out there of

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what's going on in college athletics.
And I think they're doing it all right.

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Let's get to the football now,
let's get to the playoffs. The

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playoff rank is obviously the state of
Florida, big impact. Obviously, you

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had, uh, Michigan one,
Washington two, Texas three, Alabama four

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obviously outside of the floor and we're
going to get to the Florida state discussion

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here in a second. Sure the
top four, did you have any any

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qualms with who was rated where in
the top four? I did it,

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and I did it, and I
think the committee kind of boxed themselves in.

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Uh, and I know we'll get
into it. It's amazing that it

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took ten years to happen what happened
this year. It's ironic that it happened

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the last year because we should be
in twelve this we should, Jason,

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we should be arguing about seedings this
year now who's in and who's out.

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But we'll get into that. Uh, I'm kind of going back fours,

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right, and well you can get
into that after. But they the committee

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tied themselves, uh, Texas and
Alabama together the way they did and head

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to head matter, and so if
one went in the other one was going

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in. They had a seat correctly. But I think it, I think

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it's right. I think they got
it right in one through four, all

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right, And yeah, that's that
was and that's what I told people for

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the last several days, is you're
right the tie with it. Rarely have

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we had a situation where two of
the top four played each other, one

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beat them, and then you had
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So you had that that the dilemma
of you take them both, you

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take neither, and and all that
stuff and and head to me, you're

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right, head to head matters.
You have to that. That's the result

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that has to matter if you're gonna
you're gonna evaluate these teams as a head

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to head situation. All right,
let's get the floor Orida state your thoughts.

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First of all, the first question
is does does an undefeated season?

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Should that guarantee you a spot?
No? And I mean, and it's

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it's in there, you know if
you look at kind of the bylaws of

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the college football play now we can
we can argue it, but in their

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rule system, it undefeated has nothing
to do with it, right, I

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mean if you if if it did, Liberty would be yelling. And there's

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other schools you know. So And
as I said before, this system was

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designed to leave a Power five program
out right, there's only four spots.

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There's five power program and five power
conferences. This year Anyway, it's amazing

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that this hasn't happened before. That's
that to me. Listen, I feel

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horrible for Florida State and the players. I know Mike Norvell. I've covered

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him a ton when he was in
Memphis. I have a really good relationship

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with him. I think he did
a great job this year coaching. If

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you go back, I opened my
season week one at Miami and we went

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through, you know, the preseason
selections for the ACC. And I said,

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on that show, and I got
tape of it, I believe this

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is a year Florida State wins the
ACC and makes it into the College Forball

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playoff. They clearly would have made
it based on the committee's rules. Once

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Jordan Travis got hurt, they were
done. And I knew, and I

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knew that back then. I said, they're in trouble. They're in trouble

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because I knew that caveat was in
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paraphrasing, if you lose a player, right, that could could adversely affect

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what the team looked like and what
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They take that and just as much
consideration as head to head as conference

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champion, and when that happened,
I said, they're in trouble. And

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ultimately that's what happened. And this
was a rare year too, because most

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years that had worked itself out,
somebody would lose when they weren't supposed to

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lose. This was a year where
you had legitimately six really good teams for

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four spots and five really good conference
champions for four spots. And I'm almost

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to the point. I mean,
I think what really tests Florida State fans

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off is once Jordan Travis got hurt
in that North Alabama and oh, by

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the way, and again I'm a
huge Florida State fan, and no one's

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talked about this. They were down
thirteen nothing Oat Alabama, yes, not

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even a good FCS school, forcing
Florida State to kind of put the gas

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pedal on, and that's ultimately where
he got hurt. I'm not saying that's

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why he got hurt, but you're
down thirteen nothing. That game should have

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never been there, right, I
don't think they went into that game with

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the right mindset. I watch that
entire game, and even though they end

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up scoring fifty something points and blowing
them out, Florida State did not look

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good in that game, went through
the motions, went through them, not

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look good in it. So but
I think we're when when Travis got hurt

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by the committee leaving them and then
ultimately the next week I think put them

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back into four. That's what really
hurt, you know, bothered people.

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And I'd agree with that. You
know, you look back at what Ohio

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State did because there was a precedent
there with the injuries. Right, they

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put a new quarterback in Cardile Jones, Cardinal Jones, he goes off.

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They went fifty nine to nothing.
If Rodamaker has a really good performance against

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Florida, yes they get I don't
think we're having this conversation now. Where

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my qual is with the committee is
if they kind of knew and Arima Tea

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leaves, what could happen if if
Alabama beats Georgia after that Florida game,

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they probably should have dropped Florida State
back one or two spots, keep them

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in, you know, reached,
But they didn't. They kept them in

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the forcepot. And I think that's
what's hard for people to fathom. So,

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you know, I am almost like
we haven't even talked about Georgia Georgia

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six. I mean, if Georgia
beats Alabama, they could have still knocked

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Florida State out and put Texas in. I think Diorama would have been the

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team out. So I guess we'll
never know that again. Should have never

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came down to this. We should
have been in the twelve team playoffs this

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year and then we could have been
outraged about seedings, which is much different

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than getting left out. With that
said, I think if you're a Florida

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State Van Jason, you still have
to understand, Hey, you're going to

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New Year six, You're going to
the Orange Bowl, You're going to a

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huge game, and you're playing Georgia. That I mean, that's actually your

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gift from not making in, which
is nuts. And then you know,

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but who plays in these games?
Right? Who opts out? Who does

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that? But you still have a
you still have a chance to really go

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00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,200
there, and you know, you
go there to the Orange One, you

406
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:40,400
knock off Georgia, then that makes
the committee look bad. Right, So

407
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,839
that's what you have a chance to
do right now. Two points on Floriday,

408
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,000
and I want to make that again. A lot of people don't don't

409
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:49,640
realize had like you talked about had
Rodemaker played well at Florida, they they

410
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,160
would have. And the reason they
stayed a four, I think is because

411
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,039
we didn't know till Friday before the
Louisville game that Ronamaker wasn't gonna play.

412
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,200
They were to give rona maker An
their chance to play well against Louisville.

413
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:06,000
Had he played well against Louisville,
I think they would have found a way

414
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:08,480
to keep Morter State in. I
mean, and say what you want,

415
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:12,000
you can't go for one hundred and
thirty yards at Gainesville with your backup quarterback.

416
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:17,160
It's hard to against a not a
very good Florida team. That's just

417
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,519
the bottom line. And they were
not good. No, I agree,

418
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,960
And you know the other thing I
lost with Tran fought but looking at the

419
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:32,240
college Football Playoffs and their criteria,
and I've said this forever because I'm on

420
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:34,960
TV and there was a lot of
confusion this year, and I don't know

421
00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:41,480
with a lot of the pundits,
deserving versus best deserving is not a word

422
00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:45,759
that the committee considers. I mean, you got there's there's seven or eight

423
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:51,319
teams deserving. You just deserving is
honor. It's the four best Now we

424
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,680
can argue who the four best is, but guess who gets to say who

425
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,319
the four best are? The thirteen
committee members. I mean, that's that's

426
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,799
the way the system was set up
by the college presidents and the commissioners,

427
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:07,039
and they went through it. And
you know, I know it's hard,

428
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:10,720
and I live in Florida. I'm
right here in lan Yeah, and I

429
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:12,440
know who you are too, and
I know in a lot of Florida State

430
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,599
fans and I'm friends with texting me
and I said, listen, I know

431
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,720
it's hard. But without Jordan Travis, the committee got it right. They

432
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,960
put the four best teams in,
right, they just did. And you

433
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:26,799
can argue, well, Georgia is
still on the top four, and I

434
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,960
believe they are, but by losing
head to head in the conference championship,

435
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,000
they lose that data point up conference
champion, and so you have to put

436
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:40,519
Alabama in there. And then we
already talked about Alabama and Texas being toped

437
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:44,519
together. We saw what Texas getting
their championship game, and so that's what

438
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:47,200
the committee did, and I ultimately
I think the committee got it right.

439
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,559
It sucks for Florida State, I
get it. You do everything you're asked

440
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:53,640
to do thirteen to oh, you
win your conference championship, but when it

441
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,319
comes down to the top four teams, you lost your starting quarterback who is

442
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:04,079
phenomenal, who was arguably in the
race as well, and you put your

443
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:07,319
backup in and that's what you get. The committee saw that, you know,

444
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,319
and it's just it's unfortunate. No, I'm with you, and I

445
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,000
give the committee credit. Is the
easy thing to do with Florida State at

446
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,839
four. I mean we've always complained, well, President, President, President.

447
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,960
That doesn't mean the president was good
the last nine years. I don't

448
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:26,680
think. I didn't think they were
gonna do it either, but I but

449
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,559
I think, but I think they
got it right with what they were working

450
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:33,680
with on their system. They got
it right. And here's the other scenario

451
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,200
that's never happened, but easily could
have could have happened one year. What

452
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:41,839
if all five Power Conference teams went
undefeated, Well, somebody would get left

453
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:48,079
out again that system was set up
to fail like that. Amazing that it

454
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,160
took to this last year. I
just cannot wait till we get to twelve

455
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,839
because I just think it's gonna be
fantastic. It's gonna bring more more teams

456
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,519
into the equation. It's gonna bring
the little guy's gonna give the liberty chance.

457
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:06,480
Yes, so I cannot wait for
that next year. All right,

458
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:07,519
what do you give me a quick
synopsis? What do you think in the

459
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:12,000
semi finals? What do you think
in the matchups Alabama, Michigan and then

460
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:17,519
Texas and Washington. Yeah, I
just think listen, how about this Rose

461
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:22,480
Bowl matchup right in Michigan Alabama.
Did you see when they had the camera

462
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:27,920
on Michigan when they found out Alabama
was in and out Florida State? Oh

463
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,279
boy, because that's a team that's
listen. I was down on them early.

464
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:36,880
I didn't thought Milroe was playing Yeah, not good. I just didn't

465
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,680
think it was. I didn't think
they were close to an Alabama team that

466
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:46,000
we've seen in the past. This
is arguably Nick Saban's best coaching performance ever,

467
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:50,519
what he's done with this team,
and I think they're peaking at the

468
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,880
right time. I think Milroe has
got I give the kids so much credit

469
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:58,440
because of what he went through and
then how he just kept building and getting

470
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,799
better and better and better. With
that said, I like Alabama in that

471
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,559
game, and then you know,
Texas and Washington. Listen, it's a

472
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,400
shame we haven't even talked about it. Arguably the best year that Pack twelve's

473
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,000
had in a long, long,
long time, and now the conference is

474
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:19,480
going to put thank you TV money
and football driving the bus. We already

475
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:23,599
talked about that. Right with that
said, Texas is for real. I

476
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:28,599
think Texas's defensive line, offensive line. You know, I'm an old school

477
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:30,640
guy, Jason. You already talked
about how old I am playing back what

478
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,279
I did. I don't care how
fancy your offense is, up tempo,

479
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,920
you know snap. You know USF
and Tampa snapped the ball every seven seconds,

480
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:44,720
go quick. I don't care what
kind of offense you run. The

481
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:46,880
game is won and lost at the
line of scrimmage on both sides. It

482
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,119
is just it just is. To
this day, it still is. And

483
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,359
that's where I give Texas to the
advantage over Washington. So I think we're

484
00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:00,119
destined to see a rematch Alabama Texas
in the championship. I think I'm with

485
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:06,279
you. That's the one part of
what Texas program has elevated under Sharkisian or

486
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:09,880
the defensive lines and offensive line of
scrimmage. The toughness and the physicality they

487
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,280
didn't have with other coaches. I
agree, and so and how ironic is

488
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,519
it? Also? I mean,
so really we have with QUASI this year,

489
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:22,039
we have two SEC teams and two
Big ten teams in this thing,

490
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,840
you know, because obviously they're they're
going into the conferences next year. And

491
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,480
the last point we'll move on to
a little a little more State of Florida

492
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,960
flavor. The ACC commissioner was the
guy against going to twelve teams this year.

493
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,920
Yeah, but it had twelve this
year. Yeah, and so listen,

494
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:40,199
I get it they were upset,
but it was kind of like,

495
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,039
you know, you know, we're
upset that Texas and Oklahoma's going and so

496
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:50,360
this is what we're gonna do.
But like it ultimately didn't better anyone.

497
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,199
And so now we look at it. His team doesn't get in the PAC

498
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,599
twelve, doesn't even have a conference
anymore, you know what I mean.

499
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,199
So it's just it's kind of and
then you know, the Big Ten was

500
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,920
sitting there in good shame, and
I don't know what the hell they were

501
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,199
thinking, but yeah, it's kind
of crazy how things end up. Let's

502
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,400
go to the State of Floor a
little bit a couple of floor points.

503
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,360
Give me your thoughts. You're right
there in Orlando. Give me a thought

504
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,559
or two about UCF's first year in
the Big twelve. Just a transition,

505
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,960
and you know how Gus handled that
and the program transitioning. You know a

506
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,280
lot of people ask me. I
said, if they can go six to

507
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,079
six, seven and five, get
to a bowl game in that first year,

508
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:31,800
that's a success. Okay, fans
in college football off fans, just

509
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,480
not UCF fans. They can get
a little delusional, right, Oh,

510
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:37,360
we're gonna come right in. We're
gonna win the conference first year. This

511
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,840
it's great to hope that and think
it, but you also have to be

512
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,480
realistic. I mean, just in
college football in general. Someone said this

513
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:51,320
the other day and I could not
agree more. When teams have ten win

514
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,960
seasons, we kind of like scoff
at, oh they didn't win the championship.

515
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,440
Like if you look at an LSU, they win their bowl game,

516
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:00,400
they're gonna win ten games. They're
gonna be ten and three. That is

517
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:06,920
a phenomenal season. We don't give
teams enough credit, yep for getting ten

518
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,679
wins or like a UCF transitioning into
a Power five conference, getting to a

519
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,559
bowl game. Now, listen,
the Baylor game just derailed their season.

520
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:16,599
They were I thirty five to seven
in that game at home. You can't

521
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:22,719
lose that game. They ultimately let
that title wave into a couple more losses,

522
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,679
but they fought back really hard at
the end of the season, got

523
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:29,920
to bowl eligibility. Good for them. And listen, they're gonna be playing

524
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,800
in Tampa, the Georgia O'Leary Bowl. They're playing Georgia Tech. They get

525
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,440
a good opponent. They can really
finish their season off with a with a

526
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,199
strong win. So if you're a
UCFN, ultimately, yes, it could

527
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,679
have been better by a couple of
games, but you got to a bowl

528
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,719
game. You're gonna build on next
year. I think you're in a really

529
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,320
good position. So if I'm a
UCF man, I'm happy gush Mal's the

530
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,800
guy for that job. You think
long term, yeah, he's not going

531
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,320
anywhere. I've had conversations with him. He likes to say, uh,

532
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,679
he's on about he's on the back
nine and he's on about the sixteenth pole.

533
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,880
So however long it takes him to
play sixteen seventeen eighteen, I think

534
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,519
he ends his career at UCF.
I don't. I don't think there's any

535
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:12,360
question about that. Let's go to
USF year one, Alex Golish, what

536
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,320
a job turning that around getting Bowl
eligible? Uh? You know they lost,

537
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,920
maybe lost a game or show they
maybe shouldn't have lost. But again

538
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,280
they take Ali, they play Alabama
really tough. We talked about the struggles

539
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,320
I was, I was in the
building that day, played them really well

540
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,280
for three and a half quarters.
What are your thoughts, Alex Goleish?

541
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:35,440
Year one Alex Golish is not getting
enough credit nationally on what a great job

542
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,119
he did coaching. You know this, Jake, So look at the program

543
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,360
the three years before he got there. Was it three wins total? Right?

544
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,679
I think four? But four?
But maybe two Division one wins,

545
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,079
two FGS wins. Correct, he
comes in, gets in the Bowl eligibility.

546
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:53,280
I mean to me, that's Coach
of the Year stuff. Now.

547
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,280
I have a good relationship with the
American Athletic Conference. I was in I

548
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,960
was in New Orleans for the Chancemanship
Game this week and I was talking to

549
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:04,239
some people and they said, oh, yeah, I brought this up,

550
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,079
and they said, oh, we
know the USF fans are hammering or hammering

551
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:12,480
us on social media, and they
know what a great job Alex Golish did.

552
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:15,159
So if you're a USF fan,
you are through because you really didn't

553
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,559
know what you were getting with Alex
Golish. You mean, before they hired

554
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,760
Golish, there was rumors about Deon
Sanders, and there's no doubt, you

555
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,480
know, from what I hear,
Dion was interested in the job. But

556
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,480
you know Dion's salary and his laundry
list of wishes you A lot of schools

557
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:36,159
just can't do it. Another another
one that I thought was going to come

558
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:37,880
to us HAF and I think they
were interested in it and would have been

559
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,719
a great hire was Jamie Chadwell.
But you go to Liberty. Liberty is

560
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,079
paying them four and a half million
dollars. USF can't do that right now,

561
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,559
So you get Alex Golish. Think
it ended up this based on this

562
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,280
year slammed off home run. Now, now, if you're US, you

563
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,639
got to put your money where your
mouth is. You got a coach,

564
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,280
they got you to a bowl game, he said. I all, I'm

565
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,960
on social media. They're going to
break ground this summer on their football center.

566
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,320
They already have a beautiful indoor facility. I saw it this year when

567
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,639
I went out there and did a
game, and you got to break around

568
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:15,039
on that stadium first, That on
campus stadium has to get done. When

569
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:19,400
they do that, they're going to
be a force to be wrecking with because

570
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,199
it's gonna up their attendance. It's
really easy for the fans. The students

571
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,719
used to walk over. They showed
me where they're putting it. They're putting

572
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,800
it in a beautiful spot. So
now now it's you know, full foot

573
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,119
forward supporting that program. But I
could not say enough for great things about

574
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:37,199
what Alex Goltis did this year.
Now we'll see they get a great opponent

575
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,280
too. They get to go down
to the Vocal Ble, they get to

576
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:44,760
play Syracuse, who's transitioning a new
coach. They can really cap the season

577
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,760
off with a winning record, go
seven and six, and that'll really catapult

578
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,159
them into next year. I'm surprised
that the gas Griller Bulls didn't pit USF

579
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,519
and UC if that would have been
a I understand why they didn't do it

580
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:59,519
because they want people traveling into town
a little bit, and I get that,

581
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,360
but that from a state perspective that
had been a hell of a to

582
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,960
rekindle that rivalry. A lot of
people want on the scene. And remember

583
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:10,159
remember when you see I played Florida
last year. Yes, they sailed it

584
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:14,440
out. They sold that stadium out, So uh yeah, that would have

585
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,840
been That would have been a good
one to see for sure. But I

586
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,280
like the two matchups, not the
last for both those programs. Give me

587
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,960
a thought on Miami. Obviously,
Miami with the disaster is no kneel down

588
00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:28,519
situation that really turned there. Not
that they were going to be a national

589
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:32,559
title contender, but at that moment
they were undefeated and had some momentum.

590
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:37,360
What are your what are your thoughts
Van Dijke's leaving as the quarterback? Kind

591
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,440
of another Socio Mario coaching wise,
what do you think is going on in

592
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:45,400
Miami? I agree with you one
hundred percent. So I did their opener

593
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,719
against Miami Ohio or they looked decent. But I also said on that broadcast,

594
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,719
when you look up, this Miami
Ohio team is gonna have eight,

595
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,039
nine, ten wins. Oh,
by the way, they ended up with

596
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:55,800
eleven. I think they ended up
eleven and two won the match. I

597
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,199
knew they were a good team,
Uh, Miami was actually improved this year,

598
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:02,960
and I know the record was only
improved by a couple of wins.

599
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:08,440
But the Neil, the lack of
the Neil down just crush them. That

600
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:12,519
cost them to me to win.
So would they end up seven and five?

601
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,480
Right? I think they probably should
have been a nine and three team

602
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:19,599
and they probably would have ended up
there. Mario is on a big he's

603
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:22,079
on a three year plan. Okay, he is. He has said that.

604
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,320
So you know Van Taye ended up
going through what he went through.

605
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,599
So the transfer portal for the quarterback
position is unreal. I've never seen anything

606
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,880
like it, never seen anything like
it in my life. Have your check

607
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,480
book ready ready? You know,
my wife asked me to today. I

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said, oh, DERI was leaving
Oklahoma. She's like, he is,

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what's he got one year left?
Yeah? Said, someone's gonna buy him

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for a year. Someone's probably gonna
givehim two million dollars to go play for

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a year. And I l ended
up getting tied to the transfer portal,

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which that was an unintended consequence.
So they need to fix that and I

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l and transfertal in and of itself
is okay. Think they need to tweak

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the portal a little bit too.
I had some ideas about that, but

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we'll see what they do. But
but with that said, uh, Miami

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going in the right direction. I
don't think anyone can argue that they they

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And the other thing too, Mario
is doing a hell of a job.

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And you knew he would do this
recruiting right, he's keeping kids home in

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South Florida. That they were losing, that's a big deal. He shared

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up his offensive defensive lines, which
we talked about. So they're they're going

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in the right direction. There's no
doubt about it. Just yeah, that

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that that the fact that they didn't
take that kneel down and lost to Georgia

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Tech the way they did kind of
an excuse me, it's an excuse it

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is. That's an excusable all right. Give me a thought on Billy Napier.

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Kind of another tough finish, lose
five in a row. I think

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the losing five in a row is
the hard part. At the end there

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they were more competitive. They played
competitive in a few games that they lost,

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and give him credit. But next
year, I think he's definitely on

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the blazing hot seat. So I
think the best thing for Billy Naper and

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I covered Billy Napier a ton in
thet when he was in Louisiana. I

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think the best thing for BILLI Napier
is what Mike Norvell's doing down the street

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at Tallahassee, because remember Norvella was
getting who's this guy? Who's this guy?

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And the best thing that Florida State
did was they had patients. They

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let it work itself out, they
let him coach, and then now look

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where he's gotten them. So I
think if you're a Florida fan, you're

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looking, let's be a little more
patient because these teams, these programs don't

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have the patients. I think they
give him the patients. Ultimately, he

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can do it. But we just
talked about it with the transfer portal,

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with everything that's going on, you
you can lose some key pieces quick,

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but you can also gain some key
pieces quick. So I think if they're

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patient with him, he'll get him
there. Listen, he runs a different

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style uh program, different style offense
than I think Florida is used to.

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He runs the football in a little
different way. Ultimately, though, Jason,

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if you win, I think fans
will buy into it. You gotta

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win, and you just talked about
it. All those losses at the end

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really hurt. So but we'll see. I think that next year, though,

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is here is big. It's a
big year for him. All Right,

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we'll get you out of here to
talk. Gives a little forecast in

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the future. I know you got
a couple of bowl games coming up.

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Give us a little of your of
your schedule here the next month. Yeah,

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so I will know after this week
either Friday night December fifteenth or Saturday

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or yeah, Friday night December fifteenth
or Saturday, December sixteenth, and both

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season kicks off. I'll start off
with an FCS semi final, which I'm

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looking forward to. So the one
seed in South Dakota State they won last

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year. Two seeds Montana. I
think they're gonna hold for them. So

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I'll either be up there in Montana
or South Dakota State. So I'm looking

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forward to that bowl. That next
week, I'll have a post Christmas Bowl.

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I got the Military Bowl. Good
matchup two lane in Virginia Tech.

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Virginia Tech out of the ACC.
Brent Keith did a nice job. And

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then of course we Tulane. You
know, does Michael Pratt state as he

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opt out and that plays a lot
into that bowl game. I got a

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feeling knowing that young man he's gonna
play in that bowl game. But we'll

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see, and then I'll fly back
home Orlando the Pop Card Bowl, which

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is a really good matchup North Carolina
State Kansas State. Of course, Kansas

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State's quarterbacks already in the transfer portal, so again nuts just went to Texas

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A and m the sport. Yeah
yeah, I mean, you gotta keep

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trying. It's just so hard.
But I'll be doing that game for ESPN

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National Radio, so that's always a
fun one, so that I'll end my

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season with that one, just like
I did last year. I ended it

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last year. It was called the
cheez It Bowl, but it was the

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same bowl. It was Oklahoma Florida
State, if you remember. In Florida

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State got that win propelled themselves into
this undefeated season. So we'll see which

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of these nine to three teams,
Kansas State and North Carolina State can do

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the same. Dave Dorms had a
not really nice year in North Carolina State,

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by the way, I don't think
he's got enough credit as well.

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Last all, I'll get Jenner you
cover the AAC in two lane. Tell

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the audience in the country, what
a great coach Willie fritz is going to

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Houston. Now, this guy's done
an unbelievable job turning around that two lane

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program. Phenomenal job. And you
know he would have ended up he would

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have been at Georgia Tech this year
if Brent Key in the interim role didn't

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win a couple there at the end. There's no doubt about it. He's

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got So think about Willie Fritz is
and he's a little older. And I

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say older, he's like sixty two. But you know sometimes that gets called

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against these guys. So I thought, oh, man, are they gotta

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not give this guy a Power five
job because he deserves it. Great thing

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for him is he's got ties to
Houston. He's got ties at Texas.

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He coaches Sam Houston and he said
it in his press conference. You look

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at him every team, every level
he's been at, he's won, develops

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players, developed two and three star
guys. I wanted a chance to do

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it at the Power five level.
He gets a job. I think it's

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a great hire by Houston. He'll
get that program going in the right direction.

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A great guy, great coach.
Goal in man awesome, awesome analysis

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twenty twenty four College Football Hall of
Fame ballots a maker miss. That's an

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00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:10,679
unbelievable accomplishment for you. Do you, by the way, me and you

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00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,519
were about the same age. Remember, do you remember a guy back in

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your day played at FCS school,
Arnold Mickens from Butler. Absolutely I do.

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And a matter of fact, I
know Arnold. I know the name

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00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:29,840
well because Prolin had transitioned from Division
three to FCS and Nickens rushed for like

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two thousand yards, and so I
always saw his name in the rushing list.

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And the reason I mentioned that when
I was playing at UAB the coldest

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I've ever been in my life.
We played at Butler in December against Mickens

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in a snowstorm on campus at Butler. Never been colder in my life,

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standing out the side lives. But
oh, by the way, you know

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I had UAV this year too,
Trent Dilford another slam dunk higher for them.

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00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:00,880
I think he might probably move some
instance around, tweak, some things,

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bring some different coaches in. But
good program in a great conference,

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great facilities, He's gonna do good
stuff there. I got you all right,

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reading and goalie, I have a
great holiday, have a great Bowl

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season. On the call ESPN Analysts, you'll see him all over the platforms.

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Have a great holiday. We'll talk
soon. Thanks Jason. Thanks for

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