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Bill cunning into Great America and welcome
to this Warriors. Tuesday afternoon in the

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Tri State Reds Baseball kicks off about
six oh five tonight with Lance McAllister.

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Well, number forty four Dela Cruz
hit went out into the Laking River or

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the Ohio River, or just hit
the boat tonight the most exciting I might

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all say this. Maybe Mike Dartists
would disagree, but early on this is

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the most exciting Reds player that I've
ever seen. Talk about Frank Robinson,

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you talk about Tony Perez, talk
about Morgan, talk about Barry Larkin,

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talk about Jose Blaman on Rehill,
whatever you want to do. Talk about

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Bucky Waters, talk about noodles Han. Noodles Han was a great performer.

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But nothing has led up Cincinnati like
Della Cruz has done the great number forty

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four. Joining you and I now, as Mike Dartis of the power of

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five and he is the consort of
course of share Sari Palelo and Mike Dartis

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once again, welcome to the Bill
Cunningham Show. Let's talk first of all

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about the great number four twenty four, not Eric Davis, not Floyd Little.

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Let's talk about not Jim Brown.
Let's talk about Della Cruz. How

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exciting is that guy once he met
to the Reds. Most exciting start in

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the history of baseball. I think's
Tella Cruz and not even Reggie Jackson number

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forty four, Willie. But you
know what, I think it's his age

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too. I mean, you talk
about a guy coming up when he's a

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teenager versus a lot of these other
guys who spent two or three or four

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years in the minors after college.
And what's funny is the guy gets criticism

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from fans because of his batting average
and his strikeouts. He's hitting two fifty,

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you know, and he hits these
monster home runs. He's exciting,

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He fills the ballpark. Give him
a few years, give him a few

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years, and really, the pitching's
been the pitching's been pretty darn good.

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Yeah, But when your offense is
hitting two fifteen around him, I mean,

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what do you expect. I mean, he doesn't have a much of

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a crew around him, you know, So he gets a lot of criticism,

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but he is exciting and I love
watching well, you know, Mike

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Dartists. To start the year,
Kral put together a team with a third

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baseman. I guess on steroids.
A first baseman Cees that is hurt,

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can't play all year. Matt McClain, who was very exciting last year,

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I guess coming back on August or
September. Then center field freedom keeps getting

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hurt. That's four of the eighth
position players aren't playing, and now as

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we speak this Tuesday afternoon, they're
in third place. Who knows what can

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happen in the future. But let's
get serious. Enough of this playing around.

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I want to deal with you on
Pastor Jackie Jackson. I read the

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story that you have at your website, and of course we pick it up

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too, that Pastor Jackie Jackson been
around a long time. He's founded an

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anti violence group in the city of
Cincinnati. I met him many years ago.

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Well intended, a good guy,
and I'm reading this story that he's

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had ten family members killed in the
past ten years, including his sixteen year

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old grandson who was shot down like
a dog and the banks a few days

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ago. He's out at two am
in the morning. I think this Jackie

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Jackson the third has a child,
but nonetheless he's sixteen years old. I

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guess like a sophomore junior in high
school or tries to be. And then,

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in addition to the ten dead,
he says he's had nine other family

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members shot, one multiple times and
lived. So we have one family with

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nineteen gunshots, ten dead, nine
are wounded, some multiple times and live.

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And I'm thinking, Mike dartis,
what if you and Shuri Palelo had

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a family with ten members dead,
gunshot, wounds and got shot and lived.

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I might want to move to Madagascar
and breed Kmodo dragons. It's got

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to be safer. What the hell's
going on? Well, I think,

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you know, you know, you're
running to people on the street who say,

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you know, sometimes a lot of
folks who watch it, you know,

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they say, you know, it's
tough watching all this bad news.

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Or I don't watch the news all
the time because there's such bad news as

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well. What I try to tell
him is make the news up. This

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is stuff that's going on, and
we can't put our head in the stand

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and ignore it. There's so many
things going on, I mean, what

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is the answer. We talked to
Prosecutor Melissa Powers in Hamilton County, talked

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to the sheriff Charmaine McGuffey, talked
to Sheriff Jones out there in Butler County,

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and I think, you know,
there's always that ongoing debate of rehab

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versus jail time. And the problem
is, as you know, Willie,

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most of these people committing these crimes
are reoffenders. And then eventually we're gonna

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that's the eight hundred pounds elephant in
the room. You know, these are

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the reoffenders. How do you deal
with them? Do you put him in

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jail for longer? Do you get
him off the streets? You know,

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there's this debate, and it's such
a divided America right now. There's no

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middle ground, there's no middle ground
undeciding how we handle all this. And

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I think that's the big problem.
We're never making progress, We're always chasing

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our own tail. You and I
have been dealing with it. I of

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course, did a lot of criminal
law over the past. Really I believe

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it or not. I've been an
attorney now fifty years. Unbelievable. Last

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weekend I was eighteen years old shooting
baskets at Deer Park High School. Time

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flies, and it's getting worse,
not getting better. I look at some

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stats given by the Department of Justice, among other things, every day in

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America. There's one hundred and twenty
people shot in America and killed every day,

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one hundred and twenty. And on
top of that, there's two hundred

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more that are shot and wound and
lived. And the crime statistics appear to

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be going in the right direction,
but not really because most people don't report

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crime because there's no reason to report
it. When you got two to four

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hundred kids downtown doing donuts and having
a stage matches MM style, and then

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you have shots fired at barges going
by, three or four cops cars show

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up and they're told, don't do
anything I had on the other day.

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Ken Kober the head of the FOP, and he will freely say the cops

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are demoralized. There's not enough cops
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as a consequence, all they can
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the place. We need to two
hundred more police officers. But you bring

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up a key point, Mike Dartist, we need a criminal justice system.

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When repeat offenders come back to juvenile
court with Judge Carrie Bloom, who gave

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a great interview to one of your
reporters, and the head judge and juvenile

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court said she does not want to
put a kid in jail for one or

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two or three days because of the
harm inflicted upon the offender. The offender

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is concerned. Carrie Bloom is concerned
about the offender having some psychological damage by

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going to jail for a day or
two. And I'm thinking, my god,

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they need to go jail for a
long time. Just recently in front

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of juvenile court, we had a
kid who committed the assault on that Cole

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Raine High School teacher, put her
at death's door, took off part of

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her skulls her brain could expand,
and the judge there gave essentially six months

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in jail to a Cole Ryane High
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for attempted murder. And the prosecutor
wanted to take that case out of jubie

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court and put it in adult court, and the juvenile court judge said nod

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Staffan Raid said no, we're not
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have someone that commits an attempt at
murder on a Cole Raine High School teacher

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in class while class is going on, and he gets an additional six months

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in jail, and the teacher's outraged
she's lost her life, and so we

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need, well, what's your perspective. You've been around a long time,

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you bring up repeat offenders. If
you have someone who almost kills a teacher

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in class, shouldn't you get more
than six months in jail? I think,

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you know, it's sad because this
is one of the things. You

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know, there was maybe six months
eight months ago, there was a shooting,

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not a shooting, it was an
armed robbery down at the banks,

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involving a teenager, and the kid
didn't even get jail time. The kid

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didn't even get jail time. And
some of these bails, it's just confusing,

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you know. You see in one
county somebody gets a million dollar bail

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and then in Hamilton County it's five
thousand dollars for something far more serious.

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I think, you know, we
have to look long and hard at,

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you know, putting people behind bars
for longer. And and the problem is

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they say that you can't treat every
offender the same, but unfortunately they do.

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Every young offender seems to be treated
in the same way, given the

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same liberties, you know, where
if they commit a serious crime, they're

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given a second chance, they're given
a third chance, I think we have

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to look long and hard at somebody
who's just flat out a danger to society,

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somebody who somebody You lose your right
to be an innocent child when you

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pull a gun on a teacher or
you beat up a teacher, and as

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you say, you almost killed that
teacher in cole Raine Township. Yeah,

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I think sometimes you lose your right
to be treated like a child when you

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do something that serious. You know, I've been around it a long time

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and I've been in the business thirty
five years, and it's the age old

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debate, but I do believe.
Yeah, if it's something where you feel

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like you can rehab somebody and it
wasn't that serious a crime, I'm all

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for it. Put them into the
system, try to rehab them, second

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chances, third chances. But when
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I think that's off the table.
Once you get to that serious the nature

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of a crime, I think you
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And it's not fair. You're concerned
about the offender, as you said,

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and their future and how they're going
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But what about the next two or
three or four victims who are going to

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be subject to a shooting or a
robbery or something like that. You know,

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Mike Dartist, there's three or four
active gangs in the city of Cincinnati

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breaking into cars almost every night,
I think the last night of the night

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before. You spoke about more car
break ins, as if it's no big

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deal because it happens so often.
But when you get your car broken into,

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your windows are shattered, and your
stuff's going through, it's a serious

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crime. I mentioned yesterday on Saturday
night in Oakland County, which is north

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of Detroit, Sheriff Bouchard, and
I've had him on a couple times,

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he's a great sheriff, that they
had a simple car break in and someone

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stole a twenty twenty three Chevrolet equin
and an officer was on parole and they

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said, hey, there's that twenty
twenty three Equinox. I can't see the

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license plate, but it's the right
color. Let's pull him over. And

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the cop gets out of his car, walks up to the car with his

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gun drawn at his hip, and
three get out unload on him, and

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that officer is dead. And that
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break and then a fob was left
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And these gangs recruit kids that are
thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen because

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they know we have a dysfunctional juvenile
court system that won't lock up kids,

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and they have a different attitude when
they get to be eighteen years old and

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they get into adult court. I
say, if you, as a kid

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commit an adult crime, then you
do a dult time. But when you

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have a judge Carrie Bloom and others
that doesn't have that attitude, and there's

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no power on earth that can reach
in a juvenile court with a sixteen year

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old almost kills a teacher in class
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Know in Columbus that the legislature under
the leadership of Bill Sitz, is

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going to try to get a law
pass that in serious felonies, the county

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prosecutor can reach in a juvenile court
and take the case out without the juvenile

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court's judge permission. And let's face
the face of crime and Cincinnati is a

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young black male face. But the
great majority of young black males have nothing

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to do with crime. They're the
victims of crime. I would assume the

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nineteen or twenty relatives of pastor Jackie
Jackson are all black, and half are

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dead and half are walking around with
bullet wounds, and they're all black.

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And there seems to be this idea. Well, we got to give a

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kid a second or third or fourth
chance. And that's not the way it

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ought to be. And until we
change, that system is going to continue.

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Now, lastly, we got the
Great Debate coming up Thursday night.

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And as you sent me a text
this morning, this could be This could

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be super Bowl type numbers. Tony
Bender tells me that ninety three of the

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top one hundred TV programming last year, and you're aware of this at Channel

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five is NFL football. This could
be an event, might even be hired,

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might even be hired. It might
be a super Bowl between someone mentally

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absent against the Trumpster, who's loathed
by many. Give me your perspective.

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You're going to have it on at
nine o'clock. We're going to have it

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on all the platforms. This is
a heavyweight championship of the world. The

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presidency is on the line. Mike
Dartis, give me your perspective. Well,

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first of all, I think you
already know this. I did an

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informal poll last night on Twitter,
and I said, as you watch these

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dates, are they going to help
you make a decision or have you already

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made your decision? And I think
you already know the answer. Ninety six

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percent of the people in the polls
that I've already made my decision. So

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but you know, it's funny that
four percent could decide this election if you

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look at all of the key states. And you can look all you want

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at the overall general election numbers and
pretty darn tight within a point or two

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or whatever. But if you start
looking at the key swing states, Ohio

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Trump by eight, Pennsylvania Trump by
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this time around, Nevada Trump,
Arizona Trump. Michigan right now is a

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dead heat, and Wisconsin's kind of
a dead heat. Even if Biden were

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to be able to pull those two, Trump would still win the election.

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So Joe Biden's got some work to
do. And I think that these debates

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are immensely important for him to show
America at his age, with all these

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memes and videos going out on social
media, some of them doctored up,

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of course, and some of them
real that he can lead you know,

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and you're gonna see it on live
TV for an hour and a half straight.

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You know, there's no audience,
so it's just the two of these

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guys, Mono Amano, and I
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I don't know. I mean,
some of it's gonna be uncomfortable, A

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lot of it's gonna be uncomfortable.
But I mean I would not, you

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know, tune away from something like
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think not only is America watching,
but the world is watching, and and

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really down the stretch here November,
this is huge. I mean, there's

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a lot of states that are up
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interesting to see how this goes on
Thursday night. It's going to be exciting.

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I think the four or five percent
will decide the election. And of

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course Trump is playing an away game
and the officials are picked by the Biden

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team. Some of the comments made
by Jake Tapper include this is Jake Tapper

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in his own words in twenty twenty
quote for tens of millions of our fellow

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Americans, their national nightmare is over. Trump is gone. He also said,

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quote quote continue Trump continues to lie
to the American people. Another retweet,

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Trump is one hundred percent insane.
These are the words of the moderator,

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describe trump presidency as a total disaster. He ran a segment about the

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alleged shape of Trump's penis. I'm
talking about Jake Tapper. He questioned the

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twenty sixteen election Russia collusion hoax.
He said it was a hoax. The

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laptop is not real. He also
claimed that Trump was rather angry defendant.

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There's no case here for him whatsoever. He accused Trump of being a Russian

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plant, and that is from the
host, that that's the guy in charge

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of the debate. Does that sound
objective to you, Mike Dartists, Let's

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talk about Trump. Let's talk about
that. Well, I'm not talking about

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that, and I'm not diving into
that pool with you there, Willie.

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I think I'll stick away from that. But what I will say is I

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think Donald Trump, as you probably
know, plays road games stronger than home

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games. The day he's convicted in
New York, he raises more money than

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he ever had and he and he
whips up that base. I think that

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you know, he's been prepping for
this debate, and I think that he's

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ready for if Jake Tapper, in
his mind steps over the line a little

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bit, he's going to use that, of course, and you know that

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that'll get his It'll it'll pump up
the people who are Trump supporters, and

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he'll use all of that. So
I think he's going in his people have

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thrown that storyline out there about Jake
Tapper and CNN, and so therefore he's

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ready to, you know, ready
to use that to his advantage if he

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has to. You know that.
You know, Trump's a pretty good counterpuncher,

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but he's playing an away game and
the officials have been picked and paid

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for by the other side. So
Trump needs to overcome not just one person,

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but three. But Mike darteris thanks
for coming on this Tuesday afternoon,

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and let's all hope the violence in
the city stops. It'll stop when family

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formation occurs. It'll stop when faith
is a part of urban Black America.

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It'll stop when more fathers are in
more homes telling boys when they're five,

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six, seven, eight, nine, ten years old, what is proper

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behavior and what is not proper behavior. I can't imagine you having a son

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down at the banks at two o'clock
in the morning, wondering where in the

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hell's my boy? You know exactly
where he is. And so when when

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good fathers and good mothers raise good
families, that's the solution. But Mike

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darteris give my best to Kay Rob
and all the folks at Channel five will

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will he have a good day?
And God bless America. Let's continue with

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more the line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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seven thousand, and I'm not going
to talk about Trump's penis on news

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radio seven hundred WLW. Everwolf down
a big mac in thought I could use

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some extra cash.

