1 00:00:03,759 --> 00:00:13,519 Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by Fantracks, your source of information and 2 00:00:13,599 --> 00:00:18,000 analysis to help you win your fantasy hockey league. Fuck up a step hit, 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,839 stay lots. Here's your hosts, Jesse soup Here and Victor Nuno. 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,440 Fantasy Hockey Live back once again, Part three, up three of Salary Cap 5 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:34,520 League Talk. I am Jesse, severa fantraks and enjoining me between the benches, 6 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,920 between the benches, behind the glass, wherever else it is that we 7 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:42,439 put him. He's a good sport for going there. It's Victor Nuno of 8 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,719 Dapper Prospects. Victor, how you doing. I'm doing awesome, Jesse. 9 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:52,000 I can only assume that there are dozens of new fantasy hockey salary cap leagues 10 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:56,799 popping up all over the place based on these episodes, so love to see 11 00:00:56,799 --> 00:01:00,320 it. Definitely encourage you to think about this if you haven't already. We 12 00:01:00,439 --> 00:01:06,159 have a join our league or join my league channel in our discord. It 13 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:08,840 would be great if there were some new ones that popped up, people that 14 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:12,560 are interested in kind of joining or maybe creating a new one with some fellow 15 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,719 FHL fantasy enthusiasts. But yeah, I'm doing great. How are you doing. 16 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,760 I'm doing good, man, I'm doing good. It's briefly warm in 17 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,239 Wisconsin. It was like seventy degrees the last couple days we're out there. 18 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,079 The wife and I were planting trees in the backyard. Of course, it's 19 00:01:29,079 --> 00:01:32,920 going to snow tonight and be thirty in the morning and not get above like 20 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,400 fifty all weeks, so yeah, I can't have it all, but yeah, 21 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,480 no, I'm in high spirits. I'm getting ready for the Stanley Cup 22 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,879 playoffs. Of course, in all excited about by the time people listen to 23 00:01:44,879 --> 00:01:49,959 this. We recorded all three episodes, just full transparency for the Salary Cap 24 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,359 League series together, and we will be releasing them over the course of three 25 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,840 weeks. Just so Victor and I, come on, let us have some 26 00:01:55,959 --> 00:02:00,719 rest. We're with you a year round, rather than make you take weeks 27 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:04,159 off from listening to us. We're going to try to keep the content consistent 28 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,560 by doing this, and it's just too big to do in one episode. 29 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,800 It's a three part series on salary cap leagues, so listen to this third 30 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,280 part and you can also, as you said, Victor, come into our 31 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,080 discord and discuss it because there is a lot going on there. It's free. 32 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,759 You just have to contact us Fantasy Hockey Life at gmail dot com. 33 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Fan Hockey Life is me on Twitter. Victory twelve is Victor on Twitter. 34 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,479 Let's take a brief break. We're gonna come back with part three of three 35 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:49,039 on salary cap leagues. Victor, we're back. This is the third part 36 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,719 of our salary cap league, and we are all the way down the first 37 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:57,960 part. We were setting up our league very deliberately. We were not just 38 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,520 showing up one day and deciding to drap and then we'll figure it out later, 39 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:06,240 because that leads to injury. You will pull a muscle, you will 40 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:08,199 collapse the whole league, and you will be so frustrated and mad at the 41 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:14,360 end that it was all pointless. Instead, we had you set up your 42 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,400 league deliberately, made you think through all the things you should do there. 43 00:03:16,719 --> 00:03:23,680 Then you built your rosters carefully for the system for setting up your roster construction 44 00:03:23,719 --> 00:03:28,240 so that you can compete in the additional challenge of the salary cap league and 45 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,639 identify the players you want on your roster. Now we are down to playing 46 00:03:31,719 --> 00:03:37,400 the games. Let's say the season is started and you are trying to figure 47 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:43,039 out how to maneuver every single day. So Victor give people some ideas on 48 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:49,639 the strategies that they should use to effectively manage a salary cap team. Definitely, 49 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:52,719 this is definitely different than your other league, so you want to approach 50 00:03:52,719 --> 00:03:58,479 it that way. I think the biggest thing is your budget, and you 51 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,960 mentioned this. Many of you maybe are adults, but you know adulting is 52 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:08,759 hard sometimes and managing your budget is sometimes difficult. Just remember that this money 53 00:04:08,919 --> 00:04:13,199 has to last you all year. You can't just say, oh, I 54 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,680 have all this money and then run to the candy and video game store and 55 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:19,639 all at once and spend it all or I guess blow it on Amazon buying 56 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:24,319 a bunch of things that you want to treat yourself with, So be careful. 57 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,800 Cap Space is a weapon, use it accordingly. Don't just blow cap 58 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,600 on some guy because you're like, oh, I guess I need a right 59 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,399 winger. I'll just I'll just add Phil Kessel, you know, which is 60 00:04:38,439 --> 00:04:43,199 like terrible because he's so expensive right now or at least has been. So 61 00:04:43,439 --> 00:04:46,800 don't be like some gms that just seem to sign a warm body and not 62 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:54,120 really think about it too much. There's a solution to that if you feel 63 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,120 like you need a player, instead of signing somebody or adding somebody who has 64 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,120 a bit of term, if you really need that, the easiest thing to 65 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,639 do is add a minors eligible player that you can flex up and someone who 66 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:10,519 you can easily drop. There's no reason to invest long term in somebody that 67 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,000 you might eventually have to buy out or is definitely not worth it on a 68 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:19,000 value per dollar basis. Don't take on a contract and lets it's useful to 69 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:25,920 you. So a lot of people will you take on some sort of cap 70 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,079 dump for what seems like peanuts. Maybe you've seen an NHL team do this 71 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,839 and you're like, wow, why are they doing that? And maybe that's 72 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,639 the relative value in the NHL. Who knows what goes on in those GM 73 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,759 meetings. But don't take on something unless it's worth it you. What is 74 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:45,240 it that you need. If you need a prospect defenseman, get that. 75 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,800 If you feel like you need a first round pick, don't do it unless 76 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,879 you get that. You know, and some people are maybe a little bit 77 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:54,439 unreasonable in their request for some of these things, but the bottom line is, 78 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,600 don't do it unless you think it's valuable for you. There is no 79 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,600 reason to take on that contract and fill up your cap if you don't think 80 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,959 it's something that's going to be valuable to you. More people are just like, 81 00:06:04,959 --> 00:06:09,000 Oh, I'm just gonna I'm gonna do this guy favor, you know, 82 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,920 and take on this, you know, this long contract for you know, 83 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:18,240 pennies, and that's don't that's not worth it. If you can retain 84 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:25,120 salary, do it. It's super valuable. If you get the right return. 85 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,839 Maybe you can add someone like Jesse reference that Sergei Bobowski is available in 86 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:32,879 one league. Well, hey, if you can add him, retain half 87 00:06:32,879 --> 00:06:35,839 the salary and send him to a competitive team, you might get a really 88 00:06:35,879 --> 00:06:42,000 hefty return, especially like in some leagues there are it's really hard to get 89 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,720 a hold of goalies, and someone with a high cap hit like that might 90 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:54,319 be available and totally unattractive at ten million to some teams, but at half 91 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,879 that, all of a sudden, now you're now you're speaking their language, 92 00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:01,279 and now they might be able to give you a really nice asset for that. 93 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,279 So a five million dollars Sergey Robowski all of a sudden is a lot 94 00:07:06,319 --> 00:07:12,199 more enticing, and maybe they'll give you a prospect of somebody who isn't going 95 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:15,399 to help them anytime soon. You know, maybe think of like a Kevin 96 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,079 Korchinsky or Frank Nazar. I don't know why I'm thinking of black Hawk prospects 97 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,600 right now, but you know something that is a ways away. It's not 98 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:28,120 going to help that team anytime soon, but it's something that you would really 99 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,240 like as a maybe a rebuilding team get a hefty return, especially especially especially 100 00:07:33,279 --> 00:07:38,680 if you are committing retention dollars for multiple years, you better get a really 101 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:44,040 nice return if you're if you're retaining like say on a one year, that 102 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:46,759 probably isn't worth a whole lot. And but this is definitely where something you 103 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:49,720 should ask us or ask the crowd, you know, ask us in the 104 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:56,879 discord, is this a reasonable return for this amount of retention? And it 105 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,600 definitely should increase in value the longer the term is that you're retaining for and 106 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:07,439 obviously the higher the dollar amount. Hopefully that makes sense. What exactly that 107 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,519 is worth, of course, is going to vary by individual and by team, 108 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,759 so you have to you have to think about that. But ask us 109 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,279 if you're if you're a questioning I personally do not retain money for long, 110 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:24,720 for more than a year unless I'm getting something really good for it, and 111 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,000 hence I don't have a lot of retentions on my books. You also have 112 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:33,000 to remember that that retention spot is super valuable if you can. Like most 113 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,320 of the leagues that I'm in, you can only retain on three contracts. 114 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,159 I don't want to do it for just some dinky old second round pick that's 115 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:41,039 not worth it. What is that going to give me? Not a whole 116 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:45,080 lot. So you have to be really strategic with what you decide to fill 117 00:08:45,159 --> 00:08:48,120 up your retention spots for. But hey, if I'm getting a first round 118 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,559 pick, elite prospect and maybe another prospect or two, then that might be 119 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:58,639 worth it to hold in that spot. So that's something you have to think 120 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,240 about. The other thing, if you have guys on injured reserve, don't 121 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:07,720 just go adding more people to your team and put yourself in a bind when 122 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,720 they get healthy, because eventually those players may get healthy and now all of 123 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:13,360 a sudden you might be over the cap, or you might have to use 124 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:16,879 one of your buyouts. You don't want to put yourself in that situation where 125 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:22,240 you have to make a move down, down, down the road. This 126 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,080 happens often with teams, especially highly competitive teams. They don't want to miss 127 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,080 out on, you know, an activity, or don't want to lose a 128 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,840 week, so you just uh, you know, you say, oh, 129 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:35,120 I have the cap, I'm going to add this player. Now, well, 130 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:39,039 you have to be careful that that down the road, that player may 131 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,200 get healthy, and all of a sudden you have you have to make a 132 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,559 decision that you didn't you wouldn't have otherwise had to make. You have to 133 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,639 buy somebody out or trade someone, especially if you're beyond the trade dead on. 134 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:52,759 Now you really limit your options. You're either going to have any legal 135 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,759 roster for being over the cap, or you're gonna have to buy someone out 136 00:09:56,759 --> 00:10:01,039 that you didn't want to buy out, or drop somebody. That's going to 137 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,879 be difficult. As Jesse you mentioned, I we keep a sheet for our 138 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,720 teams. Mine looks basically like a cap friendly page, except it's on a 139 00:10:09,759 --> 00:10:13,879 Google sheet and I can move things around very nimbly and easily, and I 140 00:10:13,919 --> 00:10:16,919 can look at because I think you need to look at, not just it's 141 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:20,840 helpful to see at the bottom of the page on fantracks what your salary is 142 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:26,600 and what you know how much how much your team is relative to the cap, 143 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,120 but you also kind of want to know not just right now, but 144 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,279 what is it going to be next year? What is it going to be 145 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,919 if I make this trade? What is it going to be if I move 146 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,480 these players around? You want to be able to adjust things and see, 147 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,960 well, what would this look like. If you have one of these like 148 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,440 Google sheets where you can kind of move things around and see a year or 149 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,159 two or three in the future, it kind of gives you an idea of 150 00:10:48,159 --> 00:10:50,000 where your cap is going to be. And I think it's I think it's 151 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,200 essential for these types of leagues because otherwise you really have no idea, Like 152 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,480 I don't know that you could do all that in your head. If you 153 00:10:56,519 --> 00:11:01,799 can, great, but most people can, so you really want to have 154 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,720 to do that. And if you want an example of a sheet like that, 155 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,000 I'd be happy to share with you. Just hit me up in the 156 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:11,799 discord. But that's really really key. You have to keep this all straight. 157 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,840 You have to kind of see where you are because this is going to 158 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:16,919 impact your decisions. Do I make this add do I make this trade? 159 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,279 Do I move this player? Do I add this player? And as Jesse 160 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,960 mentioned not only for the players currently what they're making, but what is what 161 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:30,240 are some of my star players going to be making in the future. What 162 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,799 I have to kind of be thinking about that in terms of what is going 163 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:39,159 to be, where's my cap situation going to be? And so you know, 164 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:41,679 like you know, for some of my h and one of my teams 165 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,279 that I'll be referencing kind of been a little bit of a of a rebuilding 166 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,720 state. And so I have a lot of really great young players on my 167 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,120 team, but all these players are going to be getting paid, and so 168 00:11:56,159 --> 00:12:00,799 I have to sort of have a little bit of an idea what is going 169 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,200 on and what is the sort of projected cap years from now, so that 170 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,720 I don't get myself into too much trouble. You know, I have a 171 00:12:07,759 --> 00:12:11,600 bunch of stars on the future, stars hopefully on this team. You know, 172 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:18,600 guys like eklend Nys Moroshashenko, I have Paturka, I have Thomas Harley, 173 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:22,679 Christian Kirru, Oland Zellweger, Lukasto Stall. So I have a lot 174 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:26,799 of really good prospects, which is great, but you have to remember that 175 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,399 in two three years these players are going to be making you know, probably 176 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,799 five to six, seven, eight million, and then where is that going 177 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,039 to put you in terms of your cap? So you have to be careful 178 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:41,039 having too many long term contracts like I have Spashenkov, Nachushkin, mayor Hishkin 179 00:12:41,159 --> 00:12:46,720 in Jack Hughes. So you have to be careful like, Okay, I'm 180 00:12:46,759 --> 00:12:52,960 not committing too much cap to these players or certain players three or four years 181 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,720 from now when all my other stars are going to be making money. So 182 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,200 you have to kind of have a little bit of a long view. Otherwise 183 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,799 you're just gonna get to that time and you're gonna realize I'm in trouble and 184 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,720 you're gonna have to trade a star that you didn't want to have to do, 185 00:13:05,879 --> 00:13:09,039 and so you don't want to put yourself in that. In that position, 186 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,480 you have to consider all your tools at your disposal. I would say 187 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,919 some of these are rookie ads, buyouts, taking on money, retentions, 188 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,080 these are the things that you have to think about. And so for rookies, 189 00:13:22,159 --> 00:13:26,559 if ads are limited, be judicious. In my recent That League, 190 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:33,159 I was talking about the twenty team cap deep roster. I finished nineteenth and 191 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,320 I really wanted Bedard. I have been rebuilding or I've been building this team 192 00:13:37,399 --> 00:13:41,679 from the ground up. I wanted to be I wanted to be competitive in 193 00:13:41,799 --> 00:13:45,759 years four and five, which are coming up here, and I wanted to 194 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,840 make sure that I positioned myself with enough actual NHL players to win Badard this 195 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,080 season, because in this league, you don't just get it through a lottery. 196 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,240 You have to win the consolation bracket, which is challenging. You have 197 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,080 a team of non NHL players, especially since my goalies decided to be absent 198 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,919 on this team, because I have Matt Murray, Cal Peterson, Spencer Night, 199 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,200 and I was thinking one of those guys is going to play some games. 200 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:16,679 Actually Mett Murray did play a few games, but Peterson's in the minors, 201 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,159 and Spencer Night is, you know, away from the team. And 202 00:14:20,279 --> 00:14:22,840 then I have Lucas stir Stile who played some games. So anyways, you 203 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:26,120 have to kind of position yourself. But anyways, in terms of the ads 204 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,399 you have, there's limited number of ads, but I made fifteen in the 205 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,399 playoffs. There's thirty ads. I made half of my ads in the playoffs 206 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,360 alone, and it's a good thing I waited and didn't make a bunch of 207 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:43,120 silly ads. Throughout the season because I needed all fifteen of those to make 208 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:46,840 it happen. I'll talk more about that in a minute. Buyouts these are 209 00:14:46,879 --> 00:14:52,000 also a weapon. Don't get lazy hit the AD button and then oops, 210 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:54,360 I'm gonna buy this guy out. Now you need these. You might need 211 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:58,360 these later. You never know. If your league doesn't have a buyout lead 212 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,000 a limit, then it might be a clown league. Sorry, but you 213 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,480 need to have a limit on your buyouts otherwise there's just no point. It's 214 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,159 basically just like no. It's like the same as not having buyouts if you 215 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,360 have an unlimited number. So you have to have a limit. Know what 216 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,600 your limit is. Use them very judiciously, really think about it. In 217 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:20,759 fact, you might want to ask us if you're questioning like should I buy 218 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,480 this guy out? Should I risk it? Whatever the case may be. 219 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,919 If you're a rebuilding team, you can take on assets in addition to contracts 220 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,799 to buy out. So last season, Jesse and I got into trouble with 221 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:39,639 too many players with the games played over the games played limit. So we 222 00:15:39,799 --> 00:15:43,759 had all these guys that were great while they're on their elcs, but then 223 00:15:43,799 --> 00:15:50,840 all of a sudden they're over there bills games played limit and now there we 224 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:52,960 can't put them in the minors and they're really just not worth it. So 225 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,279 we had to pay. And we decided that instead of just like paying for 226 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,679 one of them, we wanted the flexibility to be able to flex guys up 227 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,679 and down. So we had to pay our buddy Blair Simon Edvondson to take 228 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:11,480 five of our players we didn't want. That was a huge price to pay. 229 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:15,080 I'm pretty sure in a year or two we're going to really miss having 230 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,679 him, but Simon Edmondson, that is, but we needed to do that. 231 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,320 We need to do that to have the flexibility to move guys up and 232 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:26,159 down to add other players and not be constrained by that limit. So don't 233 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,320 make that kind of mistake or you're going to have to pay for it, 234 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,480 you know. So that was just not noticing, you know, not being 235 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:34,639 on top of it. Now we have kind of a timer where we go 236 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:40,600 in and check and make sure that guys are not over and then we make 237 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:42,639 sure we drop them before because unfortunately, that's one feature that I would love 238 00:16:42,679 --> 00:16:47,879 to see Fantracks to add. But based on your league's games played limit, 239 00:16:47,919 --> 00:16:49,159 if they could send you some kind of alert like, hey, this guy's 240 00:16:49,159 --> 00:16:52,200 about to get to your games played limit. You should you know, do 241 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,519 something about that. Perhaps that would be a nice feature, but it doesn't 242 00:16:56,519 --> 00:17:00,320 have that. You have to go in and check each time. When you're 243 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,320 in as many leagues as as I am, you have so many to check 244 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,799 that you kind of lose tracks sometimes. But anyways, if that happens, 245 00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:08,680 if somebody has a bunch of these players beyond a game's played limit, you 246 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,559 can take advantage of that. You can take advantage of that and say, 247 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:15,359 hey, you have you know, these guys that maybe you're not using. 248 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,759 Let's go ahead and let's talk. Let's talk a trade maybe, and you 249 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:22,559 can take advantage of them. Taking on money can be very lucrative, but 250 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:29,559 don't take on bad contracts just to do it. You have to have a 251 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,920 plan in place when are you're going to compete. You don't want to be 252 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:37,119 saddled with dead money when you could have got a good asset for it or 253 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:40,759 for you know, you don't want to be in your competitive window having all 254 00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:44,039 this dead money. So if you're going to take on a bad contract for 255 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:47,240 somebody has to be worth it, and it has you really want to make 256 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:52,440 sure this doesn't overlap with your competitive window, because that is that is going 257 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,240 to be tricky unless you can get such great value that it doesn't matter. 258 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,279 But it's kind of hard to imagine that. If you're competitive, you're not 259 00:17:59,319 --> 00:18:02,480 going to need all all of that cap space to really push yourself to the 260 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,480 limit. So really, the taking on dead money should only be if you're 261 00:18:07,559 --> 00:18:14,720 retooling or restructuring or rebuilding. Otherwise I would be careful about that. And 262 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,000 retentions for others. There's a really good way to make your roster more flexible. 263 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:22,359 Imagine Connor McDavid costing six million instead of twelve point five million. That's 264 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,680 insane. Retentions, as I mentioned a little bit earlier, make the value 265 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:33,680 per dollar skyrocket. There's nothing better than having a star on a retain contract. 266 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:38,640 It's basically like a cheat code for these cap leagues. It's fantastic if 267 00:18:38,759 --> 00:18:42,920 you can, if you can do it right, you know. I think 268 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,960 it's important to keep in mind that everybody has a slightly different valuation on these 269 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,519 players, and so you may pay what you think is a reasonable price, 270 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:55,839 but your competitor things are getting a steal. Great everybody wins like as long 271 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,400 as that's the case, and generally in these cap dynasties, it can be 272 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,400 a win win because some as I mentioned that for that time that Jesse and 273 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:11,319 I sent sema Edvanson, that buyout costs that team five of their buyouts. 274 00:19:11,559 --> 00:19:14,680 Most of them were single year or maybe another year or two, but they 275 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,240 weren't like huge contracts. It wasn't a whole lot of money. It was 276 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:21,880 just roster inflexibility that it cost them mainly. But it didn't matter because they're 277 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,400 rebuilding team, so that was a win for them. It was a win 278 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,359 for us. So it can be a win win. You just want to 279 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,240 make sure that it is a win for you and that you're taking on this 280 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:37,440 money and getting getting appropriate value. So shoot us a message if you're considering 281 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,759 that. And I think the one of the last things here is making sure 282 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:47,400 your position for the playoffs. You never know when you're gonna need buyouts or 283 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:52,279 ads in the playoffs or cap space. So this twenty team dynasty that I 284 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,680 was talking about, I was really gunning for Berdard. I had thirty ads 285 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:02,240 in the season I hadn't made I made twelve twelve of the sixteen ads in 286 00:20:02,319 --> 00:20:06,839 the playoffs six of seven buyouts, not to mention taking on cap, and 287 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,000 we ended up ended up adding Tyler Bertuzzi, which is who was at four 288 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:15,759 point seven five million ending this year, Logan O'Connor a million ending in twenty 289 00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:18,720 twenty five, Ulimata two point two five million ending in twenty twenty three, 290 00:20:19,279 --> 00:20:25,519 Ryan Paling, who's league minimum ending this year in cal Clutterbuck ending one point 291 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:30,640 seventy five ending in twenty twenty four. I needed every single one of those 292 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:37,240 players production to eke out the win against our buddy Gregg, literally one hits 293 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:41,400 by two. And if I hadn't added cal Clutterbuck on the last day, 294 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,880 even though I'm saddled with one point seven five million for another year, I 295 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,559 wouldn't have won. So you never know where you're gonna need every single one 296 00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:53,119 of those moves to put yourself over the top. So you want to make 297 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,240 yourself as fluid and flexible at the very end. If you if I hadn't 298 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,480 left myself both cap space and moves, it wouldn't have worked. It wouldn't 299 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,839 have worked. So you really want to make sure you're leaving flexibility for when 300 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,240 you need it most. And the last thing I would say is that when 301 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:15,400 you're out of it, don't just check out. You know, this is 302 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,319 the time to really put the screws to the other teams. So when you're 303 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:25,160 rebuilding, or if you're not competing, or say you thought you were going 304 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,759 to be competitive and it turns out you're kind of in the middle, flip 305 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:32,759 the switch. Take on bad contracts, get assets, get picks, get 306 00:21:32,839 --> 00:21:37,640 prospects, get players who have passed their gleams play limit. This is a 307 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:45,119 huge untapped a huge untapped field that can be very fruitful. The guys who 308 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,200 have just gone over and a lot of teams are like, oh, you're 309 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,680 not miners eligible anymore, I don't want you. That may be true for 310 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,920 a lot of players, but some can really work out. Some guys this 311 00:21:57,079 --> 00:22:02,720 year who have who fit that Bill Casey Middlestat who's maybe turning into an NHL 312 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:06,680 or after all, Dylan Cousins who flipped a switch this year and looks amazing, 313 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:08,759 Morgan Frost, Cody Glass, dam Steel, et cetera, et cetera. 314 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:12,440 There's a whole lot of these guys who are beyond the games played limit. 315 00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:18,480 Maybe their contract initially looks like a bit much for the value. But 316 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,680 there's still guys who have some runway. You know, they probably haven't hit 317 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,119 their two hundred games played, you know threshold that Daber always talks about, 318 00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:32,559 or four hundred for bigger players. So you can take some risks on guys 319 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,960 like that. You can take some risks on some guys that maybe still have 320 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,960 some upside and you know, are kind of being dumped because they're beyond that 321 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,559 game's played limit or whatever, so or they're just about to hit it. 322 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,599 That's the kind of asset you want to collect, and you can be patient 323 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,880 with them, give them another year or so, and then see what happens. 324 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,720 But those are some strategies that I would say that can really kind of 325 00:22:56,759 --> 00:22:59,319 help push you over the top. Jesse, what do you think about those 326 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,799 ideas? I love it, Victor, and I want to add something to 327 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,319 this. And it's going to sound like I'm contradicting Victor, but I'm doing 328 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:14,480 exactly the opposite, and that is, don't be afraid to use your cap 329 00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:21,119 room. I've seen so many dynasty leagues and cap leagues where people are like, 330 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,640 oh, well, well I'm not competing this year, I'm only going 331 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,079 to use half my cap. You know, I want to be conservative with 332 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,880 this money. You know, you're not the cheap owner of a pro franchise 333 00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:37,920 who you don't get to keep the money. Okay, I've seen leagues where 334 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:45,400 actually you do pay dollars out of your pocket for each move or each contract 335 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:48,880 that you have somebody on, And to me, that's insane because I don't 336 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,440 know, I just think that's insane. But I, you know, don't 337 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:59,400 be afraid to use it. Weaponize your cap space, but be aware of 338 00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:03,519 the text of your league. If eight of the teams are at fifty percent 339 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:08,000 of their cap, your cap space is not worth as much as it would 340 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:14,240 otherwise be. You know, if you know, I think Victor plays in 341 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,960 highly competitive leagues where everybody is bumping up against the cap. And by the 342 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:21,960 way, that partly means that the cap was well designed. If not many 343 00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:26,480 teams or retaining cap space, but look at the environment of your league and 344 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,559 again, do what you need to do as a rebuilding team. That even 345 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:36,359 means look at and Victor said this as well, I think, look at 346 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,799 when you are going to be competitive. If I have a team, I 347 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,119 my Red Rock team three years ago, I identified twenty twenty two and twenty 348 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,799 twenty three as the years that I could be competitive. Actually, twenty twenty 349 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:51,079 three was the year I thought i'd be competitive, and I did. I 350 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,680 got to the finals this year and last year I was a year ahead of 351 00:24:53,759 --> 00:25:00,400 schedule, So I was making all my plans for that. I was to 352 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:04,400 take on contract for the years before the year I was going to be competitive, 353 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,559 but I wanted to make sure I did not have that going against maybe 354 00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:12,079 year I was competitive, and and I do things in that league, like 355 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,400 you know, you talk about the things that the uncompetitive teams should be doing 356 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,799 in terms of gameplay, it should be things like identifying players you can pick 357 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,480 up for minimum contracts. Just what Victor's saying. You know, Casey Middlestat, 358 00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:30,160 Dylan Cousins, people who were cheap at one point because they were not 359 00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:33,720 looked at as having any value. You're scrounging for those guys, and if 360 00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:38,200 you have fantasy generated contracts, you can be wise to sign them for long 361 00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:41,680 term contracts if you could lock them in at a price, because what's the 362 00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:47,559 downside. The downside is you end up taking a cap hit based on a 363 00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:52,119 very small contract that you signed them to. What's the upside? The upside 364 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,000 is you captured immense value for a minimum level contract. Maybe somebody who on 365 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,279 the market would be worth ten percent of your cap that you actually got for 366 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,400 point two percent of your cap, which is a thing I've done in that 367 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:08,359 league a couple of times, in a thing that the most successful teams in 368 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:14,559 that league have done more than that. So yeah, I would just advise 369 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,000 you look at the context of your league. But like Victor said, these 370 00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:22,960 successful teams are the ones who know what to do with every piece of their 371 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,559 salary cap, and that goes for the winning teams as well as the losing 372 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:32,920 teams. You don't get a prize in most leagues that I've seen for getting 373 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,920 to the end of the season and fifty percent of your cap was empty. 374 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,680 And you know, also look at things like expiring contracts and the value that 375 00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:45,759 those things can have in these leagues. If you have an expiring contract this 376 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,680 year, I'm gonna be you know, there are leagues where if it takes 377 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,240 me up to the ceiling of the salary cap and I'm a rebuilding team and 378 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:56,839 you're willing to send me a first round pick along with a guy who's out 379 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,759 for the year and injury and his contracts going to expire at the end of 380 00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:02,920 the year. That is a slam dunk win for me, and it's a 381 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,200 slam dunk win for both of us because you are going to have the space 382 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:10,039 to acquire a player. On the other hand, I can take that on 383 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,039 at no consequence if that contract is going to expire after this year, if 384 00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:17,440 I already know I'm not competing, and I don't have a better use for 385 00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:19,519 that cap space, So you can't take it with you. Like so many 386 00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:23,319 things in life, Victor, you can't take it with you. So yeah, 387 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:30,480 I think there's having the money left to get Clutterbuck at the end, 388 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:36,119 and just enough money means that Victor efficiently used his cap. He used every 389 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,000 piece of it. He used every piece of the buffalo all season long. 390 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:44,480 And if you go to the end and you know, if you've capped yourself 391 00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:47,759 out, that's a bad thing. But if you left yourself a lot on 392 00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:52,079 the table, that's like getting to the end of an auction and you spent 393 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,359 two thirds of your budget. You know, to me, there's no point 394 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,599 to it. You leave yourself flexibility, but flexible you're realistically going to use. 395 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,319 And if you're a rebuilding team. You use all of that open space 396 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:11,039 and you get something, you extract something out of it. Let's take a 397 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:18,519 break. We're gonna come back and take some listener questions. W what are 398 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:22,400 you going to do to get me that selfish hockey? That's right, selfish 399 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:26,480 hockey. Break it down, skate to pluck, don't pass it. Head 400 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:29,880 man is still going to be there, and you catch up on taking coast 401 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:33,359 coast shots, some poor angles, they're still shot bad balance. That's a 402 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,240 good breakaway. Gotta get the bounces boys. So Victor, when we started 403 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,000 this, when we announced to the patrons and actually all the people on Discord, 404 00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:47,519 I think that we're going to do a salary cap series. We solicited 405 00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:52,839 questions from the listeners on their thoughts on salary cap leagues. We've captured a 406 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,319 few of them here today. I will, I guess read a couple of 407 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,319 them off and we can discuss whether we have answers to the or whether they 408 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,920 bring up a point that we maybe haven't. So the first one is from 409 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:11,640 Steven love to know more how you think young players coming off ELC examples page 410 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,559 and cousins coming off cheap deals. So that adds close to twelve million in 411 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,480 new costs next year? Do they knock out other core players like Crosby, 412 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,960 Crieder, Connor, Evander Kane and Matthews. Fy I am replacing their cheap 413 00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:29,200 costs with the combo of Byfield, Ecklund and Rossi. So I guess this 414 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,759 is somebody who's thinking about planning for those elc's coming off and what you can 415 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,599 do to alleviate that crunch. Maybe you get another question of that, Victor, 416 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,799 or maybe it's just an observation by Stephen. What do you think? 417 00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,480 Well, I think this comes to the age old question of you know, 418 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,559 what is what is the new value per dollar? Here? Is really what 419 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,680 it all boils down to? And we don't We're not necessarily going to know. 420 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,640 I mean with Page and Cousins, I think we do know what their 421 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,039 what their new contracts are. Um, but we might not for for the 422 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,960 ELC guys and so that and that's you know, gonna be a little bit 423 00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:14,680 tricky. Um. Yeah, I think that Tage is one of these guys 424 00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:21,319 that's really interesting because even though he's like incredible, he he's also a bit 425 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,599 frustrating at times. And I'm gonna we'll definitely talk about him in the team 426 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,559 previews because even though he you know, he's he's had an incredible breakout and 427 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,079 you know he's scoring you know, ridiculous number of points, almost one hundred 428 00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:40,480 points. Um. He he he shoots a fair amount, but he also 429 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,160 has he's he's a little bit inconsistent at times in terms of the production. 430 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,519 You know, there's a lot of like in in points leagues, there can 431 00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:52,079 be some some goose eggs there with minimal hits, I mean minimal shots and 432 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,200 stuff like that, but overall the production is huge and so as long as 433 00:30:55,319 --> 00:31:00,319 he um fills it out in your league, he is probably going to be 434 00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:04,319 still worth it in the value per dollar kind of a sense. Is because 435 00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:07,119 the points are so high, I think Cousins is going to be a little 436 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,839 bit trickier because that's going to be a little bit lower. I would say. 437 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,480 The harder thing to evaluate is the ELC guys, And there's you know, 438 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,160 there's there's places where you can find contract projections, but basically you just 439 00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:26,880 kind of have to look at what is similar production for guys that are that 440 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,880 and where they were drafted for what they're going to make, and try to 441 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,599 follow the news and figure out, like are they because because what you'd really 442 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,480 like is for these guys to take a bridge deal. You know, a 443 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,720 bridge deal is good. You know, it kind of extends their r failure, 444 00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:48,119 but it you know, it kind of bridges before they have to sign 445 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,519 that really big contract. And so for all of these guys by Phil Eckland, 446 00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:55,920 ROSSI haven't really broken into the NHL too much. I guess by Field 447 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,640 more than the other two. But um, his contract be a little bit 448 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,599 bigger. But you you hope from the King's perspective, you would hope to 449 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,359 sign buy Field for like a you know, six five or six million dollar 450 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:13,880 long term contract. But from a cap league perspective, you'd hope he signs 451 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,240 for half of that bridge deal for two or three years. And if they 452 00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:22,279 do that, then obviously the value per dollar is much more. I can't 453 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,759 imagine that Eklin and ROSSI don't sign bridge deals because I don't think they have 454 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:31,000 enough evidence to support a long term deal. So anyways that's going to be. 455 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:35,000 That's that's the hard thing. It's trying to guess what they're what they're 456 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,680 going to be. But if they sign the bridge deal, there should be 457 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,279 more better value per dollar I think with these other guys that you mentioned, 458 00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:47,720 like Kyle Connor, stounds out to me as different from the rest because his 459 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,119 contract is fairly high for what he does, which is basically just points, 460 00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:55,440 you know, and Shotsy doesn't. His peripherral value is very low, whereas 461 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,440 the other guys have a fairly high perpherral value. So you have to kind 462 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:07,359 of look at the overall overall costs and evolving or not evolve evolving Hockey and 463 00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:13,880 Hockey Viz and some of these other platforms. They will actually project like the 464 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:17,119 downward trend of some of these stars and kind of see where the production is 465 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,400 going. And so it's useful to kind of look and think about that. 466 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:24,079 There's no easy formula though, You're just gonna have to try to figure out. 467 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:27,119 And this is where I would lay it all out on a spreadsheet. 468 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:30,599 I would look at projections and kind of see, Okay, how how do 469 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,839 I think all these are going to continue to produce as the years go on? 470 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000 And what is that value per dollar going to be? And you might 471 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:40,599 have to make some tough decisions and trade or sell some some stars to make 472 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,720 room for some of these other guys. It's it's something that you have to 473 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:49,000 look at in context with your whole team, and unfortunately, I generally have 474 00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:52,519 to wait until September for all these things because you need, like I need 475 00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:57,440 all the projections to come out and kind of see what I think everybody's going 476 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,799 to do, what the contracts, what everybody's contract is going to be as 477 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,759 much as possible, and then kind of fill it into my team sheet and 478 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:07,200 then say, okay, this is if I keep this guy, and I 479 00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:09,960 have my spreadsheet, I have value per dollar and everything calculated in there, 480 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,360 including how long the term is, and then you have to make some tough 481 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,559 decisions based on that. That's what I think, Jesse. It's not like 482 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,360 it is simple in terms of value per dollar, but a lot of the 483 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,880 data that goes into it isn't always one hundred percent known or clear for sure. 484 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,000 And one of the keys to what you just said is this is why 485 00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:36,280 you're mapping everything out in the spreadsheet. I want to spreadsheet that shows all 486 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,480 of my players their contract this year, their contract next year, the contract 487 00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:43,519 the following year. I want to see where my contracts are going to get 488 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,320 into trouble and where they're going to be good. Because you're right, some 489 00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:50,719 of these guys whose costs you're going to go expensive. You need to figure 490 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,719 out when these moves are going to happen. And then, by the way, 491 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,280 it's not as simple as saying, well, I want this guy, 492 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,199 I don't want that guy, so I'll keep this guy and get rid of 493 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,440 that guy. You probably got to send him somewhere. You probably got to 494 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,440 trade him. And yes, you want all the best players for all the 495 00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:13,880 top values, but keep in mind everybody else has open eyes too, and 496 00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:20,599 they can see where you have better and worse values and trading players, you're 497 00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:24,320 going to get a better and worse return if you can outsmart the other teams 498 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:31,039 in terms of and not outsmart, but if your projection and your valuation of 499 00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:36,559 a player is more accurate than in other team's, which is part of the 500 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,079 essence of playing a fantasy sport, is that you want to try to be 501 00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:45,559 better than that, better than your opponents at that then you can potentially end 502 00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:50,280 up with more value. But as you need to reduce your roster, somebody's 503 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,400 got to take them, and it's possible you're going to have to pay resources 504 00:35:53,840 --> 00:36:01,199 to move some guys whose contracts are about to become a problematic. There is 505 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:07,920 a there's a concept that they talk about on a basketball podcast I listen to 506 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:12,159 called dunked On, which is then an a theory, which is the idea 507 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,000 that there is a tipping point above which when the contract gets above there, 508 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:22,039 the player has a negative value instead of a positive value, and below it 509 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,639 it's a positive value. I mean, that's I mean, you could probably 510 00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:28,920 don't even need a name to describe that, because I think people understand it 511 00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:32,880 intuitively. But the truth is is once you get a contract that goes flips 512 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,880 into a negative territory, even though it's a producing players, it's going to 513 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,280 bring you down relative to the league. Now you have to figure out how 514 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,760 to move it, and you might have to spend other resources to do it. 515 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,239 So just keep that in mind. I would say that it is nice 516 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,000 to think that I can keep my good guys, I can deal my old 517 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:58,519 guys, and I'll have young guys who come up to take their place. 518 00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:00,800 Ideally that's what you want. Sometimes you might have to deal with the young 519 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,760 guy. Sometimes you might have to deal one young guy with one old guy 520 00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:09,039 and take back one medium guy, you know, to be able to balance 521 00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:15,480 things out. It's always a balancing act, and it's never as simple as 522 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,039 just being able to do what you want because everybody is playing the same game 523 00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,440 as you. Victor if you ever if you ever run into that, what 524 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:30,039 if you run into situations where you've wanted to trade the Crosby's Criters, Commoners, 525 00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:32,880 Kings of the world, but you're just not going to get the return 526 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,760 because everybody else knows that they're getting older and their value per dollar is getting 527 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:43,639 worse. Yeah, definitely. And my favorite thing that I was thinking is 528 00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:45,800 so funny is that there's some people in these leagues that are just like, 529 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,159 Hey, I want to trade this guy, and everyone's like, yeah, 530 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,800 nobody wants him. Like, you have to read the room a little bit, 531 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,800 you know. You can't just come out and think that you're going to 532 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,800 be able to do the thing that you want to do, especially especially especially 533 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,199 if you're not willing to attach an asset, because that's the thing is that 534 00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:08,159 you may have to if you want to make a move like this, even 535 00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:12,559 with a name value player in a cap league. If you're not used to 536 00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:15,400 it, you may realize it it's not as easy as you think, and 537 00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:17,559 you may have to attach a pick or a prospect for somebody to take on 538 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,800 that cap, or to take on that buyout, or to do whatever. 539 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,960 Like, Roster flexibility is one of the most important things. Cap flexibility and 540 00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:30,079 roster flexibility. And you can't just assume that you're going to be able to 541 00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:32,079 do things, or you're going to be able to move guys, that you're 542 00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:35,519 going to be able to do the things that you want to do. So 543 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,159 what I would say is the biggest thing is read the room. See where 544 00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:45,880 everyone else is. Don't go asking people to take on, you know, 545 00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:52,119 a Surgey Robrovski because you made a bad pick and they are only two million 546 00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:55,400 dollars from the cap. They can't do that. Why would you even ask 547 00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,199 them. That's like coming to someone with a really dumb question and without like 548 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,079 doing your homework. So do your homework. Figure out where everyone is. 549 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,239 See which teams could accommodate the move that you need. Figure out what they 550 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,000 need. Maybe they're you know, don't have any goalie prospects and you could 551 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,679 you could send them a decent upside goalie or a defenseman or for whatever prospect 552 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,840 or pick maybe they're light on picks whatever. Figure out what might help them, 553 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,280 what they might need, but come to them with something for them. 554 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,480 I think too many people blurt out in general channels or whatever, this is 555 00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:35,400 what I want, this is what I need, and it's like, well, 556 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,239 great, who's gonna just give you what you want for nothing? Like 557 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:43,000 it's not going to happen. At least it shouldn't happen. Everybody needs to 558 00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:46,400 get something for their trouble, and so it's better if you can kind of 559 00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:50,119 guess. I mean, you may not guess perfectly, but at least if 560 00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:53,519 you come offering something that they might need. I love when people do that. 561 00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:57,480 Hey, it seems like you're a little light on d are you interested 562 00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,679 in this guy for taking on this asset? Well, really interested in that 563 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,559 guy. But I appreciate that they came with some idea of what I might 564 00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:08,960 want, and then I can we can further the conversation along at that point. 565 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:13,360 Right, So you want to do your homework. You want to realize 566 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,280 that what everyone else is doing and kind of try to try to give them 567 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,320 something too. Right, it should be a win win. I think when 568 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,199 people come at it from a let's try to make this a win win, 569 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,880 it's so much easier and it's less contentious. And it's more fun for everybody. 570 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,760 So I would just suggest you try to do that and requires doing your 571 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,920 homework and being a little bit more prepared than just like, oh crap, 572 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:36,880 I'm close to the cap. I need to get rid of somebody here. 573 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:44,760 You take him? Yeah, let's say you have. You can't fool people 574 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,599 if they are good at the game. You know, in a normal dynasty, 575 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,639 you could come to somebody and say, hey, I see that you 576 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,199 need a little bit to make your run here, how about I trained you 577 00:40:55,679 --> 00:41:00,800 Jamie Benn for William Eklund. Ekland's not even playing this year. Man, 578 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,559 he's no good this year. Ben is playing like crazy. He's getting excellent 579 00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:07,800 points this year, and he would help you win. Well. Jamie Ben's 580 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,239 getting two more years of nine point five million dollars. He's got one of 581 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,280 the biggest cap pits in the league, and that cap hit has been an 582 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,920 albatross many many times at this point. So I would tell the other guy, 583 00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:24,400 why don't you send me Jamie Ben and William Aglund, and I will 584 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,199 give you back nothing. That's probably a fair trade. Why didn't we do 585 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:34,199 that? So it completely flips things on their heads. Let's follow follow up 586 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,960 question from Stephen My Cousin's debate is to keep him or Crider. I lean 587 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:42,360 Cousins, but I could get way more for him in a trade than Crider 588 00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,559 for similar production next year. But Cousins a more valuable a few years into 589 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:50,360 his new contract. So he's actually comparing apples to apples here, Cousin, 590 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,840 Well, he's he's talking about guys who are both ends of the scale that 591 00:41:53,960 --> 00:42:00,599 we are talking about here, Victor Cousins and Krider. What do you think 592 00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:06,719 about this comparison and this combination of players. Yeah, I mean, I 593 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,000 think it's nice, you know, you have two forward opposite ends of the 594 00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:14,119 time frame. But I also think this brings up a really good point is 595 00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:16,480 that sometimes you just have to trade the player that's going to give you more, 596 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,119 and maybe it's not the one you want to trade, maybe it's the 597 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,559 younger player. You kind of also have to realize your league. You know, 598 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,800 some leagues just love, you know, player teams want to collect young 599 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,599 players and assets, and others tend to be, you know, a little 600 00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:35,480 bit more wise to the fact that, well some of these older vets might 601 00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:37,679 be better. But in cap leagues, it really just comes down to value 602 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,760 per dollar and how long the term is, and so if they're older and 603 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,480 still producing them, maybe a better asset. So I would absolutely anytime I 604 00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:51,679 can trade the player that's going to give me more, as long as they're 605 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,440 relatively similar, you know, and apples to apples kind of thing, if 606 00:42:55,519 --> 00:43:00,920 possible. And yeah, you might get kind of stuck with Okay, maybe 607 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,360 this player, maybe the production is similar. But that's what that's the way 608 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,880 you kind of have to think about it. I think is you know, 609 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,280 maybe this isn't the player I want to trade, but I need to make 610 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,079 a move it forward. I need to make a move to soften my cap. 611 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,519 I'm going to trade this one, even though I don't love the move. 612 00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:25,000 Let's combine two concepts we've talked about this people who are afraid to use 613 00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:29,960 their whole salary cap and people who are trying to do what we're talking about 614 00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:32,639 people trying to do, which is, let's get rid of the old guys, 615 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,440 let's move in the young guys. Because people overcorrect for this. They 616 00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:42,320 overcorrect for this, not only I mean they might even understand the valuation. 617 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:49,639 You might get to managers who understand that Sidney Crosby is probably less valuable in 618 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:55,079 Dynasty right now than Tag Thompson given their relative contracts. But how is it 619 00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:00,559 possible that somebody will give you Sidney Crosby the first round pick and some other 620 00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:07,119 good thing for th Thompson just to get crosby salary off the books. Well, 621 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,679 by the way, Sidney Crosby still scored ninety three points in eighty two 622 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:15,199 games this year. He is still extremely valuable there. And like Victor, 623 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,280 Victor said, sometimes you get the thing that we're more valuable with, So 624 00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:23,039 we definitely need to keep that in mind when we're doing these things. All 625 00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:29,280 right, let's let's move on. Our boy. Yarno out there in Finland 626 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,960 had a couple of things to say. Loves salary leagues, and he's really 627 00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:38,800 asking the question about salary retentions. He's he's been mixed on these salary retention 628 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,079 things and how much they should really be used in a league. His point 629 00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:45,400 is it's hard to keep your team good over the years versus non salary leagues. 630 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,599 But the salary retention can really screw the bottom teams by taking up a 631 00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:57,039 bunch of their cap by basically, Arizona Coyote their situation where they've got all 632 00:44:57,039 --> 00:45:00,519 these unvaluable players that they're taking on tracks, and maybe they're not getting everything 633 00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:04,400 for it, and it also means they're not going to get anywhere in the 634 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,360 long term. And again, you don't need to keep pushing those players off 635 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,800 your roster just so you can get down to fifty percent of your salary cap. 636 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,079 There's no bonus for getting a fifty percent of your salary cap instead of 637 00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:19,079 eighty percent of your salary cap if it doesn't have impact on future years and 638 00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,159 you're gonna lose already anyway, and nobody's going to trade you guys to fit 639 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:28,199 into that cap. So I don't know Victor any further concept on a retention 640 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,280 of contracts. And I know you've talked about it a little bit, but 641 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,840 you're those comments here. Yeah, I think it can screw the bottom teams 642 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,679 if they don't get appropriate returns for it. I have seen some players, 643 00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:47,320 some GM fantasy gms, retain four or five million dollars for several years and 644 00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:52,360 get back a modest prospect or a second round pick. That is crazy, 645 00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:57,920 That is not worth it. So I think it's a matter of educating the 646 00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:01,719 GMS. I would never tell the league this is an appropriate value for this 647 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,119 type of trade. But I think that you know, as a commission you 648 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,760 might especially if people are new to cap league, you might say, hey, 649 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,519 you know, you might want to run this, buy some people before 650 00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:15,840 you take commit yourself to a long because that can ruin the league. If 651 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,239 you get a new GM that's just wanting to wheel and deal and take on 652 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,400 all this cap and get nothing for it. That can create those really strong 653 00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:27,719 teams at the top, and it can screw them into the basement on the 654 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,920 other end, and then they just leave the league and they leave it a 655 00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:34,039 mess. So you want to make sure that that doesn't happen. You want 656 00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,880 to make sure that if you have some inexperienced people that you don't let that 657 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,239 happen. But I think that as long as that's the case, as long 658 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,599 as you have some smart people that know what they're doing, it can be 659 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,239 fine. You know. That's what's great about dynasties. You can have teams 660 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,039 in different states of repair. You know, you can have the competitive teams 661 00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:58,280 and the teams that are you know, moving moving up and trying to compete 662 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,800 those in the middle. They are going one or the other. But I 663 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,719 think that's the key is you have to have competence in our gms. Don't 664 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,239 let people make mistakes that can screw the entire league, and really kind of 665 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:13,760 if they're new, make them listen to this episode first before they join your 666 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:19,920 league. You are absolutely right, Victor. We've talked about how salary caps 667 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,920 can level the playing field in terms of not creating juggernaut teams, but with 668 00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:28,880 this level of complexity, I also think what you said that at the startup 669 00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:36,199 you can absolutely you can have managers who come in the league and really really 670 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,519 mess up teams more quickly than they could even in Dynasty, because at least 671 00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:44,079 in the other realm, you're just looking at which players are more valuable than 672 00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:46,599 the others, which players are younger than the others. Now, this element 673 00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:52,280 of contracts adds a big complication that people can miss in the strategy. The 674 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,880 actual value of a retained contract, the actual value of a draft pick. 675 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,280 Before it stabilizes, before there's kind of a league consensus that makes economic sense 676 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,880 and there's a kind of a stable market, there's going to be opportunity for 677 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,679 exploitation and things are going to go a little bit nuts. Next question, 678 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,360 Victory, and I mentioned this earlier handling free agency in dynasty cap leagues, 679 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,519 and I railed against the idea of the slow auction where you have free agents 680 00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:24,039 who are coming out there's a wide array of options. Quelly Ford ass mine 681 00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:29,079 is only one free agent per week and big cap guys like line A Cadro 682 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:34,119 or sitting on free agency. How do you handle a situation where maybe you're 683 00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:37,280 going into the new league year and there's guys who people would want who are 684 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,880 sitting on waivers because they weren't on a contract at the end of last year 685 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:47,559 or their contracts expired. What do you think about this? Victor? So, 686 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,679 I don't think I understand this question. Can you explain it to me 687 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,400 a little more? So? I think there are some leagues where like you 688 00:48:55,559 --> 00:49:00,400 get Tag Thompson and you get his current contract, and if he signs a 689 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,199 new contract, you just get to keep Day Thompson at his new contract, 690 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,199 or you can choose to keep him or drop him based on his new contract, 691 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,079 and then he goes on to waivers. There are other contracts where you 692 00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:14,400 can other leagues where you can take on a player with a salary for a 693 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,239 certain number of years. Even in leagues where I think you use a real 694 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,400 cap, you might have a limit on how many years a player can remain 695 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,679 on a roster with a particular salary. And I don't know, or I 696 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:30,920 mean particularly this is this is a huge problem in fantasy of value generated leagues. 697 00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:34,280 Maybe in real salary cap leagues, Like you know, there could be 698 00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:37,639 some differences here. But what do you do. Is it just going to 699 00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:44,239 be waivers that decides who goes on to different teams or is there going to 700 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,159 be an annual supplemental draft of some sort. It sounds like you're you're you 701 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,599 kind of handle it by the guys on your team, as long as he 702 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,519 keeps, as long as he's you're willing to take on whatever the NHL's going 703 00:49:55,559 --> 00:50:00,880 to pay him. Yeah, And most of my leagues, it's like it's 704 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,239 a dynasty league. So you you have the rights to that player, you 705 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,079 roster them, and it's usually dependent on the cap. So like DH Thompson 706 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,360 right now, Dylan Cousins, we just talked about them. If you don't, 707 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,719 if you roster them, and you basically have a decision to make once 708 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,800 the new league starts, once they play a game under their new contract, 709 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,599 you're committed to them for the long term. So basically the decision made in 710 00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:28,800 the offseason. If you want to drop them or trade them, then you 711 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,440 can do that. But if you keep them and they play a game under 712 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,199 the new contract, you're you're committed to them. I know. There are 713 00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:40,559 also leagues that basically, you know, once when that player is a free 714 00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:45,000 agent, you basically have like a bidding war and you can basically decide, 715 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:51,239 you know, and bid you know, fantasy dollars or fab budget or whatever 716 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:57,119 to acquire those players sometimes at UFAs or RFAs or dumped back into the player 717 00:50:57,199 --> 00:51:00,760 pool, and so you only get them for you know, that contract. 718 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,800 That's to me, that's a little bit more extreme. I don't I wouldn't 719 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,440 like that as much. That would be a little bit harder to keep track 720 00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:08,880 of, but it certainly would keep the player pull churning a little bit more 721 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,440 if that's something that you wanted. I know. There are also leagues like 722 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,320 you mentioned, where you you basically get to determine how long you sign a 723 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:22,960 player for and how much, and so that that, uh, that are 724 00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:27,679 offers another layer of complexity that you have some input on, and so that 725 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,000 can be interesting. Um I don't I don't like those personally, because it's 726 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,559 a lot to keep track of, and then you're kind of stuck at the 727 00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:39,559 whim of other people, other gems in the league that might over or undervalue 728 00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:44,480 some people, you know, might say I'm gonna I'm gonna pay you know, 729 00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:46,400 I'm gonna I'm gonna roster this guy for you know, seven years or 730 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,079 whatever the max is. You have to have a max um, but yeah, 731 00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:52,800 that's what you you kind of have to to think about. And there 732 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,960 are always opportunities there that you can take advantage of. So guys that are 733 00:51:57,039 --> 00:51:59,679 maybe under under valued, you have to kind of look at, Okay, 734 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,079 well who's coming off right now and who has a decent value? Those are 735 00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:08,519 the guys I want to bid on for sure. Yeah, I think that 736 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:15,079 whole mechanics is a big element that is a variable four teams. You know, 737 00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:19,280 whether when you sign a new contract, whether there's going to be a 738 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,400 limit to a contract or whether you're just going to keep on with a guy 739 00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:25,199 forever. So but Victor, I think we've kind of run at a time 740 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,280 on the listening questions. Why don't we take a break to come back kout 741 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:42,679 the show band tracks, best places to play your salary cap fantasy leagues. 742 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,039 If you ask me, you can play ten different sports in fact, and 743 00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:50,320 they will load the real any shell salaries in there. They can customize to 744 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,519 about whatever types of scoring format you want to do. And the twenty twenty 745 00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:59,159 three twenty four leagues are aren't open, so you can roll over your dynasty 746 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:04,679 start that trade back up again to something to keep everybody warm while they're getting 747 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,719 excited about hockey during the Stanley Cup playoffs. Anyway, There is a such 748 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:13,960 a thing as fantracks HQ, which is an element of fan tracks where there 749 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:19,039 are lots of articles about different fantasy sports, including fantasy hockey. There is 750 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,000 also a series of podcasts. There are some podcasts there on fantracks on other 751 00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:28,559 sports that you can listen to. Ours is the one and only that pertains 752 00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:31,559 to fantasy hockey. In addition to being part of the fan tracks podcasts that 753 00:53:31,639 --> 00:53:36,840 work, we're a part of the Dabber podcast network. Dabber Hockey probably the 754 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,480 number one, I'm just gonna say it is the number one fantasy hockey site 755 00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:44,880 in the business. They have all kinds of different elements to them, one 756 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:50,320 of which is Dabber Prospects great site one again, probably the best site in 757 00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:55,639 terms of explaining prospects and hockey, especially with a fantasy slant. And sure 758 00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:00,920 enough part of that is Victor Nuno who writes over there the Detroit Red Wings 759 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,599 and other things. Can you tell us about Dabber Prospects right now, Victor 760 00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:07,920 and what people can look forward to. Yeah, we got some really great 761 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,239 stuff coming on, a bunch of new content that we're going to be putting 762 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:17,320 out. The editors are getting together and working on different rankings lists and starting 763 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,480 to work on the guide, the Fantasy Hockey Guide, which is the bible 764 00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:25,159 for our prospects, the Dabber Prospects Guide. So definitely be looking forward to 765 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,400 that. And if you have any any input on any questions that hit us 766 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:35,159 up. I imagine Victor and the other great writers at Dauber Prospects kind of 767 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,519 like in a monastery type thing, chanting prospect rankings to one another. I 768 00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:44,519 think that would be fun. Let's talk about Patreon. We are a podcast 769 00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:46,559 that in addition to you can just listen to it, you can enjoy it. 770 00:54:46,639 --> 00:54:50,360 You can get into our discord for free. We also have a bunch 771 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,840 of extra cool stuff in our Patreon victor, Why don't you tell them what 772 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:58,039 they can get there and what kind of opportunities it unlocks if you become a 773 00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:01,599 part of it. Yeah, lots of great stuff over at the Patreon. 774 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:09,519 We have our Patron casts that are exclusive content for everybody. We have our 775 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,000 ranks that we're going to be starting to talk about as we go through the 776 00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:19,599 team previews. We have our prospect ranking list as well in terms of in 777 00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:22,559 addition to the tiers, and that's getting a huge overhaul as I mentioned on 778 00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:28,360 the last episode. Hopefully that's already out now and people they want to sneak 779 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,559 preview of that, you can pit me up and I can show you a 780 00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:35,599 little bit behind the curtain. It's pretty awesome. Helps you kind of think 781 00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,280 about which teams have the best prospects, what are the best on each team, 782 00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:43,000 you know, broken down by goalie, d forward, all that kind 783 00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:47,000 of stuff. Great stuff, and you can get extra bonuses. Like the 784 00:55:47,079 --> 00:55:52,199 Patron Priority Channel. We also have a scouting information We have a one note. 785 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:57,559 We have all kinds of scouting reports that are for each player and each 786 00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:00,679 team or most players in each team, and if you contribute to that, 787 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,400 you can hit us up and potentially, even if you don't have any experience 788 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,280 scouting, you can try your hand at it and contribute to the team previews 789 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,480 and help us out a little bit and get a lot of great access for 790 00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:15,880 yourself as well. So hit us up if you're interested in that. Yeah, 791 00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:20,639 imagine that. That's extremely cool. If you're into the prospects scouting, 792 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,480 you can help contribute to these team proves, we'll give you a shout. 793 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,400 We love to bring in some of the smartest people we know, which are 794 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,920 our listeners. I have a second podcast is called Dynasty Sports Life. I 795 00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:36,000 cover four different sports there, baseball, basketball, football, and hockey. 796 00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:39,679 Generally the hockey content remains here, but I do cross sports stuff and I 797 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,400 do episodes like this week, we're gonna have an episode on about half of 798 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,119 the NBA draft prospects coming up for the summer's fantasy rookie drafts. But I 799 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:52,880 also over there have announced recently something called the Diesel, the Dynasty Sports Life 800 00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:57,519 for sport Dynasty League. 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