1
00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,399
Welcome back, everyone to a new
episode of Your Wrong with Molly Hemingway and

2
00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,920
David Hasani. Just a reminder,
if you'd like to email the show,

3
00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,879
please do so at radio at the
Federalist dot com. We'd love to get

4
00:00:25,879 --> 00:00:30,280
your mail. Hey, everybody.
Today's episode is sponsored by our friends at

5
00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,479
the Center for Renewing America. They're
asking listeners of this podcast to help them

6
00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,640
stand by their colleague, Jeffrey Clark. You probably saw Jeff's name in the

7
00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:44,359
news over the past couple of years. He's being persecuted for serving President Trump

8
00:00:44,439 --> 00:00:49,479
honorably as an Assistant Attorney General and
fighting for the integrity of our elections.

9
00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,640
In twenty twenty last year, Jeff
was indicted alongside President Trump and others in

10
00:00:54,679 --> 00:00:58,159
Fulton County, Georgia, and had
his good name dragged through the mud.

11
00:00:58,439 --> 00:01:02,399
And now they're going one step further. They're trying to take away his ability

12
00:01:02,479 --> 00:01:07,519
to practice law and feed his family. The DC Bar recently put Jeff through

13
00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,400
a completely sham trial, which we
have covered at the Federalists, and issued

14
00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,239
their first disciplinary ruling against him for
his legal work in the twenty twenty election.

15
00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,680
The good news is Jeff refuses to
back down and russ Vote and his

16
00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:25,400
team at the Center for Renewing America
are standing by him, but they need

17
00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:30,120
your help, So please visit stand
by Jeff dot Com. That's stand by

18
00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:36,040
Jeff dot Com to help Jeff and
the Center for Renewing America stand up to

19
00:01:36,079 --> 00:01:38,920
the wokemup. Hey, So,
MARII, let's begin this week by talking

20
00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:46,640
about the big Foreign aid bill.
I guess you'd call it that House Leader

21
00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,480
Speaker Mike Johnson today sort of an
about face on I would say, at

22
00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,120
least in the Ukrainian funding part of
it, and I believe it was signed

23
00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,799
yesterday past the Senate seventy nine to
eighteen and was signed by Joe Biden.

24
00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:07,120
Obviously, this has upset many on
the right. So how do you feel

25
00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,599
about it? What's going on?
Yeah? And just the other thing I

26
00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:15,199
would add to the data that you
provided there is that it passed. The

27
00:02:15,479 --> 00:02:21,680
Ukrainian funding, which was sixty one
billion dollars passed over the objection of a

28
00:02:21,759 --> 00:02:27,000
majority of Republicans in the House.
So it's not surprising that Republicans are not

29
00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:34,080
thrilled by it, and it wasn't
that Mike Johnson ever said he wasn't going

30
00:02:34,479 --> 00:02:38,120
to give Democrats what they wanted on
Ukraine. He actually said he would,

31
00:02:38,439 --> 00:02:45,439
he just said originally that he wouldn't
do it until and unless there were real

32
00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:52,560
changes on the border. And so
there are no changes on the border situation

33
00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,800
obviously, and he didn't even really
fight for that at the end. So

34
00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,800
I think that's also why people are
upset. They kind of understand there's a

35
00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,879
limit to how much Republicans control in
Washington, and there's an even bigger limit

36
00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:13,080
to what real conservatives control in Washington. So these funding packages for Ukraine have

37
00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:15,960
always passed overwhelmingly. This is the
one that actually had the greatest trouble,

38
00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,360
but they were hoping to use whatever
leverage they had to get something for Americans

39
00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:27,400
as well. Do you believe that
if it had been folded into an actual

40
00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:32,120
border bill, that the Republicans or
most of the Republicans who opposed it,

41
00:03:32,159 --> 00:03:38,120
at least in the House, would
have been open to funding Ukraine further or

42
00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:40,840
is there a contingent there that just
doesn't think Ukrainians deserve any more money.

43
00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,599
I mean, I think, obviously, when you're dealing with the tiny,

44
00:03:45,639 --> 00:03:53,039
tiny majority that the House Republicans are
dealing with they are understanding that you have

45
00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,479
to compromise, and you know,
you get this, I get that type

46
00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,759
situation. There are certain people who
just think it's so reckless to be engaged

47
00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,240
in a proxy war with Russia that
has no chance for victory, that it's

48
00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:11,280
just strategically disastrous to do it.
And they might have opposed it no matter

49
00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:14,159
how much they got in there.
But I really think the problem for a

50
00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:17,560
lot of Republicans was just that they
got. They got less than nothing.

51
00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:25,560
They got Ukraine funding, you have
broad bipartisan support for helping out Israel,

52
00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,600
even helping out Taiwan. The other
thing they got royally screwed over, which

53
00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:36,519
a lot of people are upset about, is just absolutely no change to the

54
00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:45,600
Faiza authorizations that allow for total abuse
of Fourth Amendment rights. And was that

55
00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:47,120
a separate bill? That was a
separate bill. Well, the way that

56
00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,879
Mike Johnson did it is he created
a rules package supported by the Democrats and

57
00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:59,680
again not by the Republicans, or
not by most Republicans. The rules package

58
00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,319
pleased the Democrats. Let's just say
that where you would sort of pretend to

59
00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:12,279
have separate bills that were then all
folded into one bill through the congressional procedures

60
00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,560
in play, and so you could
pretend to have you could you know,

61
00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,279
pretend that everyone gets a nup or
down vote on different things. So,

62
00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:25,759
but the voting on FIZA was actually
really bad from both Democrats and Republicans.

63
00:05:26,519 --> 00:05:29,600
So I think what happened, you
know, Mike Johnson was called into a

64
00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,759
room and things were explained to him
on Phiza, right, and everyone's like,

65
00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,920
well, the cias something over him
or has some weird you know,

66
00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,480
not everyone there are conspiracy theorists.
I think it's much more simple than that.

67
00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,240
I think they just scare them by
telling them that if we don't pass

68
00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:46,279
this, look, this would have
happened. You know, a B and

69
00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:49,399
C would have happened and passes.
With the Ukrainian bill, I feel like

70
00:05:49,399 --> 00:05:53,600
he got called into a room and
said, listen, Ukraine is about to

71
00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,360
collapse because I think that that's going
to happen at some point, and that

72
00:05:57,439 --> 00:06:00,000
if we don't fund them, that's
going to happen and you will be blamed

73
00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,560
and it will be politically disastrous for
you. Do you think that I'm on

74
00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,120
the right, right, I think
there are two separate issues there. So

75
00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,680
he's been claiming that he backtracked on
everything he claimed to believe in because he

76
00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,560
went to a skiff and in the
skiff things were revealed to him that made

77
00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,879
him betray his voters. That's his
argument. And by the way, Politico

78
00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:26,800
and other media outlets have all these
hagiographies of Mike Johnson right now because he

79
00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,680
betrayed his voters, and they're written
up in like really glowing ways. But

80
00:06:30,759 --> 00:06:33,519
it's actually just like you described,
like he says. When you read it,

81
00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,000
you're like, oh, I think
the problem is Mike Johnson isn't very

82
00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,639
smart, like not just gullible,
but he does not seem to be the

83
00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,319
most incandescent light bulb in the Republican
chandelier, Like he just wooh boy,

84
00:06:47,639 --> 00:06:53,399
we are not dealing with a with
a mensa scholar type here. So he

85
00:06:53,439 --> 00:06:56,600
says, yeah, that he went
into the skiff, and they are the

86
00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:02,160
same people who cooked up the Russia
collusions and who said Hunter Biden's laptop was

87
00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,920
Russian disinformation, told him that he
had to support Ukraine. I mean,

88
00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,319
but when he talks about it,
it's all kind of stuff that we already

89
00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,920
know from reading, even like the
Wall Street Journal situation for Ukraine is very

90
00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:21,800
bad. That's because the fundamentals of
this horrible war are very bad for them.

91
00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:26,639
I mean, people have been lied
to about the nature of the situation.

92
00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:31,759
So for Russia, they view it
as an existential issue that they gained

93
00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:36,079
control of part of Ukraine because of
how Ukraine has not been neutral in the

94
00:07:36,199 --> 00:07:43,240
sort of NATO versus Russia situation.
Ukraine egged on by the US is just

95
00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:48,720
you know, they're losing all their
men. The infrastructure situation is very bad.

96
00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:51,680
And Russia, contrary to what we
were told two years ago when we

97
00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:57,639
began funding this, we're now in
the third year. It's kind of doing

98
00:07:57,639 --> 00:08:01,199
all right. Like their military has
been realists established after taking some heavy losses.

99
00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:07,800
Their economy is doing very well.
Meanwhile, Ukraine has horrific problems with

100
00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:11,560
recruitment of men to fight this war. They don't have the money, they

101
00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,439
don't have the means, and they
just you know, it's just a scenario

102
00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:20,240
where nobody, by the way bothered
to explain what exactly is going to happen

103
00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:28,319
here. Like the best argument I
think from the people pushing are continued involvement

104
00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:33,840
in this proxy war is that if
we continue to be involved you know,

105
00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:39,240
for years or decades, who knows
how long that it just kind of bogs

106
00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,840
Russia down. That's what they're that's
and so people go, oh, I

107
00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:45,840
don't like Russia, so I'm willing
to bog them down. But we don't

108
00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,159
have a lot of Sorry for just
going off on this, but we have

109
00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:54,600
a lot of strategic thinkers or statesmen
in DC, perhaps none who are saying,

110
00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,759
Okay, so while we're doing this
side venture, what's China doing?

111
00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,960
How does this enable the China Russian
alliance to grow? And should we be

112
00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,720
concerned that most of the rest of
the world thinks that what we're doing here

113
00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:13,080
is not worthy of their time or
energy to join with us. And oh,

114
00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,039
by the way, we now also
have a growing conflict in the Middle

115
00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:20,840
East that we also need to pay
attention to. Oh, and would you

116
00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:24,960
believe it, we are once again
distracted from the looming threat of China.

117
00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:30,360
You know, so sorry, there's
so many angles to go here. But

118
00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,039
but Mike Johnson went into a skiff
and he heard that things weren't going well.

119
00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:35,960
He could have read the Wall Street
Journal to get that same information,

120
00:09:37,399 --> 00:09:41,759
and it scared him into betraying his
voters. Yeah, I mean, I

121
00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,240
just here's my take on is I
just think they are unserious people running DC

122
00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:52,240
and unserious people in Congress. And
you don't have to be like take Faiza,

123
00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,440
Even if what they told you in
that room were all true, it

124
00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,960
still doesn't mean that you can't push
for some kind of reform of the process

125
00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,000
to ensure that Americans aren't caught up
in it, to ensure that there is

126
00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:09,399
more oversight to change things. And
he doesn't want to do that same thing

127
00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,840
with Ukraine. I'm I don't,
I'm not listen. I don't want Ukraine

128
00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:15,879
just to collapse right now. I
think that's problematic. But I also feel

129
00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:18,840
like, you know, you want
to give funding with some kind of endgame.

130
00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:20,960
You want to ensure that the Europeans
are doing what they should be doing.

131
00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:26,720
You want to ensure that there's some
kind of endgame or purpose to it

132
00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:28,759
all, which it just seems to
me there isn't and we can't even debate

133
00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:31,960
it. If you bring it up, you're a putin stooge. And I

134
00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,639
am not out you know, I'm
not saying, you know, I'm not

135
00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,080
out there with like, there are
people who just don't like Ukraine. They

136
00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,720
don't think we should be involved.
I'm not there, but I feel like

137
00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,600
we can't have a real debate about
this because everyone has just so unserious about

138
00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:46,480
this is like a total, very
serious situation in the sense of, you

139
00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,000
know, I was reading about Henry
Kissinger recently, you know, and how

140
00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,679
he I think about how he dealt
with stuff and how he looked at the

141
00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,639
world. I'm not saying he was
perfect, but we don't have people like

142
00:10:54,679 --> 00:11:00,480
that looking at the world anymore.
It's just become so simplified and danger in

143
00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,840
that way. And that goes to
the Middle East as well for a lot

144
00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,480
of people. So I don't know. I guess I'm just still ranting,

145
00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:07,759
But no, I want to talk
about the strategy thing too. But it

146
00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,440
one thing you just said reminded me
of another. One of the talking points

147
00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:18,840
from people who love this war is
that we're actually just funding ourselves. So

148
00:11:18,879 --> 00:11:24,039
they'll say it's like they lean into
the to the complex part of the military

149
00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,559
industrial complex. They say, yes, we're asking for sixty billion dollars to

150
00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:35,519
fund our proxy war against Russia,
but really that's just funneling money back to

151
00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:41,799
the Midwest where the weapons are made
that will then go up and smoke in

152
00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,919
Ukraine. And I was talking to
an actual member of the military industrial complex

153
00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,600
this weekend, and he was saying, of all the stupid arguments that are

154
00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:56,000
out there, this one's actually the
stupidest, because what you actually want if

155
00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:05,159
you are a weapons dealer in the
is not US taxpayer funded weapons development,

156
00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,679
but other countries doing it too.
And the more that the US takes on

157
00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:18,080
the role of defense for all of
Europe, the less that these other countries

158
00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,559
in Europe purchase from the armstealers.
Does that make sense? So, like,

159
00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,679
the best scenario would be if the
US were saying, hey, Europe,

160
00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,919
if you think this is a problem, why don't you act like it,

161
00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,600
Why don't you increase your budget?
And yes, by the way,

162
00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,120
we make excellent weapons and we are
happy to sell them to you. That's

163
00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:41,320
actually the best way for these military
contractors to make their money. And then

164
00:12:41,399 --> 00:12:46,200
also the US can also do it
to build up its own weapons supply.

165
00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:52,240
Like the idea that we make weapons
and then they just go away to Ukraine,

166
00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,080
and by the way, we're still
left with our complete depletion of weapons

167
00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,960
is not actually great. I'll be
Devil's advocate now for two issues. One

168
00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,240
I would say that I think people
underestimate the salience and effectiveness of that message

169
00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:09,399
that we're building things here. I
do think that people care about that in

170
00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,679
a way that they live in places
where there's where it matters, right,

171
00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:16,399
and other people don't care that much, Which brings me to the second Devil's

172
00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:22,159
advocate position is that I think we
overestimate how much people actually care about this

173
00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:24,799
issue. And I looked at a
Bloomberg pole recently, it had it at

174
00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,279
the bottom. So what I mean
is is Ukraine, did Mike Johnson look

175
00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,440
at those polls and say this issue
is not really that important. It gets

176
00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,919
people on the internet worked up,
but for the average voter it won't matter.

177
00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,120
I don't know if I completely disagree
with that, but let me now

178
00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:46,200
do We're just going to have devils
everywhere if I can increase this devil's augment

179
00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,279
there, I agree to Actually that
people don't totally care about foreign policy,

180
00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:54,120
which is why the betrayal of the
voters is not about funding Ukraine, but

181
00:13:54,159 --> 00:13:58,679
about doing nothing for the US border. Because voters do care about the border,

182
00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,559
do care about the US economy,
they do care about crime and the

183
00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:11,440
seeming like complete destruction of our own
country. And when you work every fiber

184
00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:16,720
of your being to help Joe Biden
accomplish his policy agenda and you just don't

185
00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,360
do anything for your own people,
voters do care about that. But then

186
00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:26,960
I also want to say that I
was really happy to see corporate media democrats

187
00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:33,320
and even like Mitch McConnell and Mike
Johnson do this like smug, condescending victory

188
00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,360
tour this week. I want them
to do that. I want them to

189
00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:46,039
own every bit of this. And
if I can just back up a little,

190
00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:50,200
if you think about how this funding
package was supposed to go through last

191
00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,799
fall, yes at a much lower
down a mount, but was supposed to

192
00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,600
go through last fall, and it
was delayed because the American people are not

193
00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:03,919
super jazzed about fighting a war without
any strategy for success. I mean there,

194
00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,840
if they had been given a strategy, if anyone tried to give them

195
00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:11,159
a strategy, maybe it would be
going better. But it was always going

196
00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:16,200
to pass, and it didn't pass
easily. And generally speaking, the American

197
00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:24,559
voter does not love the interventionist foreign
policy that has been shoved down their throat

198
00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:28,840
for the last twenty or so years. Like you really starts with the end

199
00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:33,600
of Bill Clinton doing some of his
democracy spreading. At the end of his

200
00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:39,399
term. You might remember George W. Bush wins in part by saying he

201
00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,480
doesn't believe in nation building. Then
nine to eleven happens. He changes course.

202
00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,360
He suddenly is the world's biggest proponent
of nation building. So Barack Obama

203
00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,000
comes in, also critical of this
strategy, and then he gets cowed.

204
00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:58,679
And then Donald Trump comes in,
also critical of it, and does far

205
00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:06,000
more than any other president to resist
some of these pressures that are in play.

206
00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:11,960
It is politically toxic to support the
you know, the Joe Biden,

207
00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:15,960
Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell foreign policy. It's not an impossible victory for these

208
00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,159
people. Obviously they're all in office, however low their approval ratings may be.

209
00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:29,440
But I want them to just be
tied with it. American jobs are

210
00:16:29,559 --> 00:16:33,840
good, bad, and ugly.
The Watchdout on Wall Street podcast with Chris

211
00:16:33,879 --> 00:16:37,120
Markowski. Every day Chris helps unpack
the connection between politics and the economy and

212
00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,879
how it affects your wallet. Don't
look at that headline number that the politicians

213
00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:45,360
are spewing on TV. Although more
Americans are employed, they're all working for

214
00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,639
the government. Even worse, most
of them are part time employees. Whether

215
00:16:49,679 --> 00:16:52,720
it's happening in DC or down on
Wall Street, it's affecting you financially.

216
00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:56,120
Be informed. Check out the Watchdot
on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski on

217
00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:03,039
Apple, Spotify, or wherever you
get your podcasts. Yeah, I mean,

218
00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,480
I again, I'm more open to
intervention than you are, I think,

219
00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,519
but I will say that and I
don't and I stand by my devil's

220
00:17:10,519 --> 00:17:12,559
advocate position that it's not that important. But I do think it's important in

221
00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:19,960
the sense that it broadly makes Republicans
look weak and obliging to Democrats. It

222
00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,880
makes them look like they care more
about a border abroad somewhere than they do

223
00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:29,000
about their own, and those things
matter. So it's not like someone asks

224
00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:30,240
you about Ukraine, You're like,
yeah, I don't really care, but

225
00:17:30,319 --> 00:17:36,720
you do care that Mike Johnson looks
weak, that Mike Johnson is helping Ukraine

226
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,240
not the United States border, when
we have this thing going on that I

227
00:17:38,279 --> 00:17:41,599
do think many Americans care about.
So in that way, I do think

228
00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:47,839
it matters, you know a lot. Well to that point, I saw

229
00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,599
a piece today that was talking about
how Joe Biden had managed to get everything

230
00:17:53,680 --> 00:18:00,680
he wanted and give up nothing,
And the piece basically center on how his

231
00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:03,160
strategy. By the way, someone
sent this to me with a picture of

232
00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:08,440
Joe Biden licking an ice cream cone
and saying, imagine being intimidated by this

233
00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:12,599
guy, you know, In other
words, Mike Johnson was intimidated by mister

234
00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:18,200
ice cream liquor, Joe Biden.
But the piece said that he the Joe

235
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:25,359
Biden team strategy was to appeal to
Johnson's vanity. Basically, don't criticize him

236
00:18:25,519 --> 00:18:29,599
for a period of time and then
scare him with lots of intel. So

237
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,880
basically, app he'll do his vanity
and deal with the fact that he's very

238
00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:41,240
gullible. And I was talking to
someone close to the previous speaker about what

239
00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:45,519
the previous speaker would have done,
and I think we had talked earlier about

240
00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:51,559
how I was not a fan of
removing Kevin McCarthy from the speakership, and

241
00:18:51,599 --> 00:18:56,079
I feel pretty vindicated by that in
light of recent weeks. And Kevin McCarthy

242
00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,519
is by no means a conservative,
I mean talk about a Washington DC creature.

243
00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:04,880
He totally is, but he would
not have put himself in the worst

244
00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:11,799
possible bargaining position. He whatever else
you say about him, he was like

245
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:17,039
obsessed with wins for Republicans. He
didn't really care what kind of Republicans they

246
00:19:17,079 --> 00:19:19,680
were, but he wanted to give
Republicans like things to run on. By

247
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,640
the way, Republicans have literally nothing, I think, to work with here

248
00:19:23,759 --> 00:19:27,079
in terms of what they've done in
the last last time. I think,

249
00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:32,559
how you just described McCarthy as exactly
a type of person you need running being

250
00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:34,519
the speaker. It's exactly the type
of person you need in the Senate.

251
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,240
You want wins. It's a bad
partisanship. That's why you're there, you

252
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,000
know. I just want to quickly
say that everyone kept saying that Mike Johnson

253
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,119
was had been, you know,
was acting in a bipart as a manner,

254
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,720
and how you describe I have this
list of euphemisms that I keep of

255
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,279
medio euphemisms. Bipartisanship means Republicans get
nothing but give up something and Democrats get

256
00:19:53,319 --> 00:19:56,640
not everything they want. You know
what I'm saying, And that's exactly what

257
00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,920
has been happening for a very long
time and happened now. He just seems

258
00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:07,480
even agree with him or not.
He just seems like a weak person or

259
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,640
I don't know how smart he is
or not or whatever, but I do

260
00:20:10,759 --> 00:20:12,799
know that he is not right for
that position, and this can completely be

261
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:18,880
blamed. I'm sorry on people who
had some ridiculous personal vendet against McCarthy that

262
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,799
made no sense, But even if
they were going to do it, they

263
00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:26,160
did should have had a person,
you know, to rally around before they

264
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,880
toppled the guy running things. Well. I would like to continue kind of

265
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,480
praising Kevin McCarthy, but if we
want to blame people, he also shares

266
00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:38,160
some of the blame. He made
some He was really great at winning people

267
00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:44,680
over, but he also picked some
unnecessary fights that came back to bite him

268
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,920
in the end. But I don't
want to get distracted by that totally,

269
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,400
to just point out that his strategy
would have been to deal to lean into

270
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:59,240
the fact that he doesn't have a
ton of power but has some you know,

271
00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:04,000
rather than you if your goal is
to get something for your voters and

272
00:21:04,039 --> 00:21:11,680
something that your members can run on
for the looming election, rather than dilute

273
00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:18,319
your power, you position yourself as
an equal to the president. So he

274
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,640
would have been like every day out
there saying if Joe Biden wants X,

275
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,000
he's got to give us why,
you know, and just being real simple

276
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,200
in your messaging, but repeating it
having meetings at the White House where you

277
00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:34,480
go over there and you do one
on ones, whereas Mike Johnson deferred to

278
00:21:34,519 --> 00:21:40,799
the Senate to fix the border,
and then Mitch McConnell used also Glibal Ray

279
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,079
lank or what's his name Roy Langford? Did I James Langford? I have

280
00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:48,960
no idea where I came up with
another name. I love the name Roy

281
00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:56,839
James Lankford to work with Democrats on
a fake border protection bill. Mike Johnson

282
00:21:56,839 --> 00:21:59,599
had nothing to do with it,
and he didn't try to have anything to

283
00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:02,359
do with it. And then when
it appeared and it was a total joke

284
00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:07,640
that no Republican would support, like
no real Republican voter would support, and

285
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,519
it falls apart. He's got nothing. He brings Hakeem Jeffries into the pool

286
00:22:11,519 --> 00:22:15,279
of people. So all of a
sudden, instead of it being Mike Johnson

287
00:22:15,519 --> 00:22:22,759
versus Joe Biden, it's Mike Johnson
versus Aqim Jeffries, Mitch McConnell, Chuck

288
00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:29,319
Schumer, and Joe Biden, you
dilute your strength that you have by bringing

289
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,240
all these other people into the process
and by not having clear messaging and not

290
00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:37,079
having clear goals. And I think
it's just a combination of you know,

291
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,640
he's got a bad situation, he's
got a very small majority, he's getting

292
00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:45,079
horrific advice from some of the top
people around him, and he's not very

293
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,000
bright, and like, it was
not that impressive that the Democrats rolled him,

294
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:56,160
because it's not hard to roll a
weak and stupid man if your part

295
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,640
is in DC creature and you're running
the House, you know, and you

296
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,839
have a slim majority. You meet
the President, you say, listen,

297
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,440
we both you know you're not giving
me anything with Israel Aid. We both

298
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,519
supposedly want that aid Ukrainian aid.
Let's say we both want it. I'm

299
00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:15,880
going to get hurt by this.
You have to include something that we want

300
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,599
that you don't want, Like you
need to give us something, and he

301
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,279
doesn't. He did not do that. And you know, now he's basking

302
00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:26,799
in the praise, you know,
in Politico and the New York Times and

303
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,839
a ton of articles, and you
know that's not going to help him with

304
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,480
Republicans. I'll tell you that right
now. And it's not going to help

305
00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:37,160
him with Democrats because the first time
he does something they don't like, they're

306
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,920
going to destroy him again, you
know anyway, So let's change unless you

307
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,880
have anything else on that topic.
Oh, I don't know. I just

308
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,359
was my husband. I think I
sometimes I talked to a lot of people.

309
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,039
Then I forget who said what.
You forget who your husband does.

310
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,759
Don't forget. I don't forget that
I'm married, and I don't forget who

311
00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,240
my husband is. I just don't
remember if he was the person who said

312
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,240
this, but he said something about
how the most embarrassing thing about about Mike

313
00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:07,799
Johnson's favorable media coverage is that he
doesn't seem to be embarrassed by it.

314
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:15,960
And I mean, this stuff is
really embarrassing. Like if I don't expect

315
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,640
much of the Republican Party, I
really understand that they're the stupid party.

316
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,119
Mike Johnson is definitely putting this stupid
in the stupid party here. But if

317
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,119
you don't understand that, it's not
good for you when Politico is praising you

318
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:37,119
like that's just And by the way, Mike Johnson got praised by CNN for

319
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,000
being they called him like Churchillian.
He praised CNN himself. He told Jake

320
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:48,000
Tapper, a main pusher of the
Russia collusion line, that he was always

321
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:55,480
fair like this is there's no party
representing the average Republican voter, like if

322
00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:59,519
it, let's like leave aside Ukraine, let's leave aside the border. If

323
00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:06,160
you're too stupid to get the corporate
media or the enemy, like right,

324
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,680
yeah, it's It's not a good
look. I mean not from the perspective

325
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,440
of a normal, average Republican.
That's what I'm saying. He just looks

326
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,920
obliging, and he just doesn't look
like a person who's fighting for you know,

327
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,400
with a very small minority, but
fighting for his constituents, like you

328
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,640
agree with him or not. I
also love this thing where the media does

329
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,039
this all the time, where they
pretend that someone is brave who agrees with

330
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,720
basically the complete DC main Oh my
gosh, me in line opinion. Right,

331
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:41,119
Johnson was so brave to figure out
a way that someone with his lack

332
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:47,880
of intelligence could get super well paid
after he leaves office. That's how brave

333
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,200
he is. I hate that word
courage and bravery when we use it in

334
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,440
the United States. Especially in politics, because it's not really bravery unless you're

335
00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:00,039
putting yourself in some serious financial or
some other way risking something, and none

336
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:07,880
of these people risk anything anyway.
Is that it? On that right?

337
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,599
We don't like it. We're nae? Where nae? On the Ukrainian I'm

338
00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:18,200
so sorry. Just a one last
thing you saw almost immediately in fact,

339
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,200
like one of my friends I saw
hosting that, it was almost like he

340
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:26,000
understood that the Ukraine War is not
going well and he wanted to displace blame,

341
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,240
super big fan of the proxy war, and he's like, anything bad

342
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:34,839
that happens is because American, some
Americans didn't want to support this earlier.

343
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,720
And I'm like, oh no,
no, no, no, no,

344
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,000
this is all around your neck.
This is one. You own this one

345
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:45,119
hundred percent. Whatever happens from here
on out, you own it. And

346
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,640
by the way, you've always owned
it, but like you definitely own it

347
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,160
after this week of mocking your voters
and mocking Americans. Oh my gosh,

348
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,920
Mitch McConnell yesterday, this is such
a bad thing to say. But you

349
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:03,599
know, I am I always worry
about like my so, I am very

350
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,400
polite on air. I try to
be right, But anyone who's been on

351
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:14,400
set with me knows that I sometimes
say things like not totally nice words when

352
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,000
we're not on air, but I'm
alone in a cubicle at Fox. Yes,

353
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:21,079
you're not cubicle. What do you
call it? Like the So sometimes

354
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,680
you're on set, which means like
you're in a big room with tons of

355
00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:26,160
other people, and sometimes you're just
staring into a camera in a tiny cold

356
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,680
room. So I'm in one of
those rooms, and I'm supposed to be

357
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,759
talking about, of course, the
topic everyone wants to talk about, which

358
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:38,880
we'll talk about here shortly, which
is the Columbia protesters. But they're showing

359
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,759
Mitch McConnell, Mitch McConnell, who's
like unable to address any of the nation's

360
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:49,400
problems really but wants to take a
victory lap for the Ukraine funding, and

361
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:55,079
rightly so he deserves he deserves every
bit of that victory lap. He owns

362
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,839
this. But he was like,
I think we've fun l turned the corn

363
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,680
or on the isolationists, which you
know, if I can just pause here,

364
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:11,319
he's ripping on his own voters and
defaming them as isolationists, not because

365
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,720
they are, I mean, like
truly speaking, an isolationist is someone who

366
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,599
does not want to have any engagement
in the broader world economically, socially,

367
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:26,279
politically, militarily. Right, so
opposing one proxy war with no chance for

368
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,119
success does not actually make you an
isolationist, and to say it does makes

369
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,640
you stupid. But yeah, he
was like, we finally turned the corner

370
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:41,559
on us on the isolationism and its
proof of that. Noticed they don't like

371
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:51,680
it when you called them a soolationists. I was like, anyway, I

372
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,400
was. I was just I was
hoping for the impression and you gave it

373
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,799
to us. So of course,
Like, while I'm sitting there and like

374
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,240
the poor gentle ears of the producers
like in far flung New York or wherever

375
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:07,880
they are, I just start shouting
not nice words at Mitch McConnell. And

376
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,359
I was like, you know,
I should be more careful about this.

377
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:15,799
This is not I was off air, obviously, but probably not the most

378
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,880
don't want to get on a hot
You don't want to get on a hot

379
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,640
mic. That's a problem, right, You know, I don't even want

380
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,000
to say this because it's going to
get You're just going to yell at me.

381
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:27,839
There are plenty of isolation that's out
there today, to be honest,

382
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,640
you know, who want to kind
of on the populist right, who want

383
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,960
to shut down immigration totally, who
don't want any kind of globalist trade,

384
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,880
who don't want to be involved in
any conflict, including some with the longtime

385
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,759
allies. I don't think that that's
the case for most of Congress. Vast

386
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:47,200
majority of Congress is not that way. But there is that element. He's

387
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,720
not talking about that, but that
element exists, right, Yeah. I

388
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,640
think I actually think that's true,
that there is an element of that,

389
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:56,200
and it's growing every day. Like
it's sort of like if you're in a

390
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,000
fight with your spouse, you you
know, each side gets more extreme the

391
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:06,119
less giving the other side is.
And so the more that Washington d C.

392
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:10,599
Responds to legitimate concerns about being overextended, the more you're like, well,

393
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,319
screw it, I'm just going to
become even more like I'm going to

394
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:17,759
pull I want to pull back even
more. But and and and I even

395
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:21,880
think there's like a subset of people
who are who are happy to embrace the

396
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,359
label and mean it in a in
a sort of George Washington farewell speech kind

397
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:32,519
of way I got it. But
it's also true that just the vast majority

398
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:37,839
of Americans I think, you know, with lots of differences along the way,

399
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,240
and even I would put in this
people who support Ukraine funding and people

400
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,279
who don't. They want a strong
military, they care very deeply about our

401
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:52,720
posture globally, and they don't want
to be involved in reckless wars, you

402
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:56,839
know. And that's it's a pretty
balanced, like long running American position.

403
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,880
You can you can get it in
the Republican Party back to Eisenhower or even

404
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:06,240
maybe beyond. There's a balance to
it. Yes, we very much want

405
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:15,079
and need a strong military, and
also we don't want to make ourselves make

406
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:22,079
ourselves less safe by being involved in
conflicts we shouldn't be. That's not isolationist,

407
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:29,519
Yeah it's not. And what you
just quickly what you just hit on

408
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:36,880
about how people sort of their their
position hardens and it gets more extreme sometimes.

409
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,759
I think that is something that's happening
now on both sides in a way

410
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:44,640
that is incredibly dangerous. Where we
got where, like the US has been

411
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,160
lying to us since John Adams,
you know, the government, you know,

412
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:51,279
like it's just gotten so insane,
and the left does it too,

413
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,599
but it's it's so dangerous to sort
of it's almost like a year zero stuff

414
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,559
where you just don't believe anything that's
ever happened. And that is just,

415
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:06,000
first of all, it's a waste
of everyone's time. But more than that,

416
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,359
it just creates conspiracies, It creates
it's just it's I don't know,

417
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,519
this is a bigger topic, so
I'll leave it, but I think that

418
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,079
you hit on something that's kind of
important. You know, maybe for another

419
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:22,039
conversation, do we want to move
on to the show trial that's going on

420
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:22,920
in New York, which I think
I just want to say, out of

421
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,400
all the trials, is probably the
most ridiculous of them all. I don't

422
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,119
know if you agree with that.
I think that's general consensus for good reason.

423
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:37,039
Do you remember when Alvin Bragg indicted
Donald Trump. All of the like

424
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:39,759
never Trump crazy people on in corporate
media and otherwise they were actually kind of

425
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:45,359
mad at Alvin Bragg for doing it
because it was such a flawed indictment over

426
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:51,400
a non crime that they worried that
it would make the other indictments that were

427
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,839
about to come out seem more political. Yeah, and in fact they were

428
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,440
right to have that concern because Alvin
Bragg coming out with like I don't remember

429
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,519
how many it was, like thirty
one indictments for a private non disclosure agreement

430
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,480
that he didn't pay for with campaign
funds, Like I can actually as much

431
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:15,759
as it would still be political to
charge someone with it if if he had

432
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:20,480
paid for it with campaign funds,
the idea that it that it's illegal to

433
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:25,359
pay a private non disclosure agreement that
has many benefits to you with private funds

434
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:35,359
is just, you know, amazing. It is literally literally he is charging

435
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,920
Trump with trying to influence an election. I think about that for a minute.

436
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,240
He's running and he wants to influence
how people think about him in that

437
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,000
election, and that is what he's
being tried for. And I honestly believe

438
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:52,400
this. The far left doesn't is
once a one party state. They don't

439
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,519
believe Republicans should be able to basically
run campaigns or elections. This is why

440
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,960
they're called They call them semi fascists
and anti democracy and all that stuff.

441
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:06,359
And this is just insane. I
don't care what you think about Donald Trump.

442
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,719
There's no way a normal intelligent person
can read what's going on right now.

443
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,519
In that New York court room and
believe that this is how America should

444
00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:19,039
function. There's just none zero.
This is the worst show trial in American

445
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,320
history in the sense of people at
high and high levels of power. I

446
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,320
mean, this is completely politically motivated. I don't even understand why they're doing

447
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,719
that. I think this is helping
Trump. I think this is helping Trump

448
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:36,320
immensely well. It clearly. I
think the fact that he is handling it

449
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,559
well in terms of the campaign is
handling it well, should not take away

450
00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:47,599
from the fact that what Biden and
other Democrats are doing here is horrific.

451
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,239
Like, yes, you can say
the campaign has handled it well, and

452
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,519
the proof of that is that they
are leading in polls. And yet it's

453
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:58,760
also true that Democrats have figured out
a way to try to bankrupt their top

454
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:04,679
political opponent, possibly put him in
prison, and at the very least remove

455
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,039
him from the campaign trail, and
also force all of the campaign dollars that

456
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:14,480
should be spent on persuasion or ballot
harvesting or other things to be used to

457
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:19,559
fight this effort. And yes,
Americans are outraged and disgusted by it,

458
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:24,360
and they are rallying behind Trump,
but it doesn't change how horrific this is

459
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:29,760
for Trump. Yeah yeah, I'm
not arguing about that. I just mean,

460
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,039
and I don't even mean like some
Democrats going to be like, yeah,

461
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:35,800
truck, you know, I got
a because I would need to save

462
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,440
the system, I need to vote
for Trump. I mean, there are

463
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,559
people on the fence why know this
is a personal observation who are like meh

464
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:43,840
on Trump, you know, and
they're like, this is insane, you

465
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,559
know what they're doing to him.
And I think that it motivates maybe people

466
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:51,559
who wouldn't be excited to vote for
Trump to want to vote for Trump and

467
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:55,400
because they believe that. And I
believe too that Democrats would be doing that,

468
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:59,960
trying that this specific thing or this
specific charge, but would be try

469
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:06,760
trying to pull the same thing with
you know, Jim mcred state presidential candidate

470
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,039
or Ron DeSantis or whoever. And
I think that that is what hurts him.

471
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:17,119
I think polls bear that out as
well. But so if I can

472
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:21,599
just add another little point before we
get more into the trial too, I

473
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:24,800
was talking to a family member last
week. Did I say this already last

474
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:30,519
week? Don't I go ahead?
And all, who's not like a natural

475
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:36,039
trumpy type person. But he was
saying that it overwhelms him to think about

476
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:40,159
how what they're trying to do against
Trump, how he knows that if he

477
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,719
were to simply stop being a threat
to Democrats, all of his problems would

478
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,840
go away. And yet he gets
up every day to keep fighting. And

479
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,440
this person was saying it makes him
really devoted to him. And you compare

480
00:36:54,559 --> 00:37:02,159
that with the topic we were just
talking about where mister Ice Liquor applied just

481
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,840
the gentless of pressure and the media
said, if you would change your mind,

482
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,199
we'll give you good coverage, and
Mike Johnson folded like a cheap launchair.

483
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:19,119
And compare that with President Trump having
to be in a courtroom day after

484
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:22,639
day, missing out on campaigning,
missing out on his life, to deal

485
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:30,360
with what is obviously a show trial
by a completely corrupt prosecutor, in front

486
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:36,840
of a completely corrupt judge, and
in a jury pool that was ninety percent

487
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:45,599
Democrat, pulled from a ninety percent
Democrat area. It's crazy. Yeah,

488
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:53,280
So, so Bragg is basically trying
to convince a jury right that completely legal

489
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,639
actions are illegal, do you know
what I'm saying. So it is kind

490
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:04,039
of a perverse, not just a
perverse undermining of the justice system. It

491
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:09,239
is literally trying to convince people that
things that are completely legal, like trying

492
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:15,480
to suppress information that makes you look
bad during an election by by coming to

493
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:20,000
a voluntary agreement to pay someone money, for instance, not to share,

494
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:23,440
which is you know, debatable.
Maybe information or whatever is completely legal.

495
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:35,239
So we are making things that are
completely illegal illegal moving forward for just one

496
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,800
political party. That's what's happening here. Or am I reading it wrong?

497
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,920
I mean, what I mean is
it's more than a I called it a

498
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,599
show trial, but it's actually more
than a show trial. It is changing

499
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:52,840
how the legal system can work for
made for sorrows backed prosecutors in major American

500
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,880
cities where businesses exist, by the
way, where they can go after you

501
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,760
know, the NRA. I mean
York went after the NRA and it was

502
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:06,159
a completely political, politically motivated thing
as well. You know, yeah,

503
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:08,920
I have been worrying about this.
It's a in my mind. One of

504
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,920
the things that brought me to this
same thing you're talking about here is the

505
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,960
media coverage of this as if it
were a legitimate trial. You know it.

506
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:23,280
I watched this little clip of Chris
Hayes and some left wing you know,

507
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:30,280
pundit. It sounded like what you
might expect North Korean media to be,

508
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960
like, you know, just praising
a show trial and coming up with

509
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,239
increasingly absurd reasons to praise the show
trial. And I was thinking, this

510
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,760
isn't just a show trial. This
is a wholesale destruction of rule of law

511
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,840
in this country, like this is
this is how the republic ends. And

512
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:51,239
I don't mean by that like this
particular thing, because we've kind of been

513
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,239
in a series of steps that are
extremely bad. Even thinking, Okay,

514
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,960
so Donald Trump is on trial for
a private non disclosure agreement paid with private

515
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:06,880
funds that he marked after the election
in one way that Alvin Bragg says,

516
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:12,679
you should get like thirty one charges
for influencing an election that was prior to

517
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,880
the way that you classified it.
I mean, it's just it's an absurd

518
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:22,880
legal argument. And compare that to
Hillary Clinton and the DNC gave money to

519
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:29,599
a law firm in twenty sixteen called
Perkins Cooey. The money was used to

520
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:36,480
create the Russia collusion lie, a
world threatening lie that Donald Trump was not

521
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:38,639
who he claimed to be, but
in fact had been a long running secret

522
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:45,920
Russian spy operative who was colluding with
Russia to destroy the country, and what

523
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:51,920
charges were placed against them for that, for funneling that through a law firm,

524
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:58,960
funneling like a national security destroying lie
through a law firm as a campaign

525
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,599
expense. I can't remember. Was
it nothing? Oh right? Nothing happened

526
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:12,000
to them like it's And you cannot
tell me that Americans don't hate this.

527
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,199
You know that you could create those
lies, You can cause so much damage,

528
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,559
you can destroy so many lives,
and nothing happens too. And meanwhile,

529
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:24,920
a non disclosure agreement that basically affects
nobody other outside of you know,

530
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:32,840
Donald Trump's family is worthy of going
to prison for. I think every thinking

531
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,159
person knows that that that case is
nonsense. But I think they have rationalized

532
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:43,639
and justified anything in pursuit of stopping
Donald Trump, who they believe is going

533
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:45,920
to destroy the You know who's a
fascist, it's you know, et cetera,

534
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:52,000
et cetera. And that kind of
lack of respect for the system and

535
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:58,400
norms of politics and of law is
what's actually destroying this country. And what's

536
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,599
going to happen is the side's going
to adopt them as well, because you

537
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:05,440
can't have a system where one side
gets to do what it wants and the

538
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,119
other can't do anything to defend itself. And that is how the republic is

539
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:13,960
going to end. And I don't
know, no one seems concerned. I

540
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,079
mean, did you see the MSNBC
front page at like nine thousand stories about

541
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:21,719
this trial. Yeah, and someone
pointed out there was nothing about the Columbia

542
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,639
protests, but there was also nothing
about anything else in the world going on.

543
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,840
It was one hundred percent about the
Lawfair, presented as if it were

544
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,360
real. And that's just journalistically indefensible
to act like what's happened. I mean,

545
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,639
the story here is the lawfair.
I mean, why can't you have

546
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,639
I mean, you just need to
have one person on there who challenges some

547
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,519
of the assumptions that these people are
making to have it. I'm sure you

548
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:52,119
know. I keep thinking about back
when Romney McDaniel was going through her horrific

549
00:42:52,159 --> 00:43:00,199
situation and NBC said we will not
tolerate a single Republican on our airwaves,

550
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:06,800
and Steve Hayes, the former editor
of The Weekly Standard, who presented himself

551
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:13,199
as like a defender of the right
half of the country for years, just

552
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,960
sat there looking down and like,
I haven't seen him talk against the law

553
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:22,239
fair. I know he personally like
is overcome with emotion against his orange nemesis,

554
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:28,800
but like to not say anything like
is rule of law not more important?

555
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:34,199
Like can you care about anything more
than your personal hatred for one man?

556
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,440
Like the country, rule of law, basic founding principles, Like does

557
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,039
any of it matter or does it
all have to be subsumed to your hatred

558
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,320
or one individual? I think it
is subsumed. I think any kind of

559
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,639
belief in neutral principles is gone for
vast majority of people, A because they've

560
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:57,800
been destroyed by one side of particular, but B because they don't see it

561
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,199
as a viable way to get into
this fight anymore. So that you know.

562
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:05,159
But yeah, I mean you're right, I don't. I don't understand

563
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:08,440
a conservative should and some do.
I know, you know, some of

564
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,360
the anti Trump people do. No, we don't like to hear this,

565
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,119
but there are a few who have
called this afars I mean no, I

566
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:22,639
mean yesterday Politico ran a story about
a wholesale media conspiracy of never Trump activists,

567
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:30,800
including like Bill Crystal, to coordinate
talking points and like test out legal

568
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,000
test out their novel legal theories.
I love how they call them novel legal

569
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:39,000
theories. Like John Eastman is having
his life destroyed for advancing a theory that

570
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:43,719
was so legitimate that the US Congress
had to like change the law to deal

571
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,960
with its legitimacy. But all these
left wing attorneys get overturned nine zero at

572
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,760
the Supreme Court. Nothing happens to
them, no disbarment attempts, no negative

573
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:59,519
media coverage. They keep their TV
contracts like it's it's all those people on

574
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:04,679
Arethy's Trumpers who well, Andy McCarthy's
were in a lot of really good pieces

575
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,159
about how this is a farcit,
you know. I all I'm saying is

576
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:10,239
I think that I have been arguing
with you about this for a while.

577
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,559
I think there's a distinction to be
made about the people who are on that

578
00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:19,280
call that you're talking about, who
are authoritarians who have rationalized, like every

579
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,119
two bid authoritarian in history, destroying
rule of law because you know, to

580
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,519
save the country, to save democracy, to save something. And there are

581
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:31,719
other people who are not exactly on
board with that. Those people are just

582
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,519
democrats. Now, I don't even
understand why we're protecting like Bill Crystal is

583
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:40,760
not a conservative, he doesn't believe
in conservative like he's complains about Dobbs like

584
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,599
he's a pro abortion open socialist.
He said he is a socialist who advocates

585
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:51,559
for Democrat electoral victories. Yeah,
I just say he's not so. And

586
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,800
there are other people, consider myself
among them, I think do not like

587
00:45:57,159 --> 00:46:00,480
this is for Eddie Scary who do
not like Donald Trump but are willing to

588
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:05,800
understand what's going on and not you
know, you know, just make you

589
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,400
know, destroy the country just because
they don't like Donald Trump. I think

590
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,760
there's a difference. I don't know, And I just want to concede your

591
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,519
point because I was like, honestly
thinking I couldn't think of any never trumper.

592
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:22,320
And Anny McCarthy has openly embraced the
never trumper label, and he's he's

593
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,639
not just been all right on some
of this stuff. He got there much

594
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:30,159
quicker than he normally does, so
like in previous issues, I remember when

595
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:32,599
I was kind of screaming about the
Russia collusion scam, he was like,

596
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,639
I worked in the Justice Department,
trust me, these are good people.

597
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:39,400
And then a couple of years later
he was like, no, actually it

598
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,519
was horrible, and it was awful, but like on this one, he

599
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:45,079
kind of got there more quickly,
which which is actually helpful, not just

600
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:49,199
to get to the right place,
but to get there more quickly. But

601
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,119
when I think of people like you, I do think that's don't I don't

602
00:46:54,159 --> 00:47:00,119
consider that the juvenile never Trumper position
is just you don't like Trump. But

603
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:07,719
I think that's actually a surprisingly large
contingent of the of America right now would

604
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,079
be people who absolutely do not like
Trump and are far more horrified by what

605
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:17,480
his enemies are doing to the country. I did call myself an anti Trumper,

606
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,000
you know, in two thy sixteen, and because I think that I

607
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:25,800
was talking about that election, you
know, for me. But the but

608
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:31,119
he never in front of a word
has meaning and it is not stupid because

609
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:35,119
if someone who runs against Trump is
much worse than Trump, then I'm not

610
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:37,599
a never Trumper. Then I would
have to be pro Trump. Doesn't mean

611
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:40,639
I'm a fan of the guy.
It means that there are choices to be

612
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:45,400
made, and I understand that many
voters feel like they have two choices,

613
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:50,480
and in some sense they do,
and they choose the lesser of evils,

614
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:53,559
or maybe they like Trump whatever it
is. But but it just doesn't make

615
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:58,119
sense because once you say never to
something, that means you have to rationalize

616
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:00,719
everything you do to stop that guy. And that's where we are. That's

617
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,119
where we are. That's why that
phone call exists, and that why people

618
00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:08,119
can't see straight anymore, at least
from my perspective. What's the next?

619
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:10,679
Do you know what what's next on
the docket for Trump? After he gets

620
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:14,199
out of this court room? If
he ever gets out. It's freezing in

621
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,320
there. He said, he survives
that. Did you like how some of

622
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:22,400
our staff who are apparently always fighting
over the thermostat in our office, really

623
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:28,000
glummed onto that part of what Trump
was saying, like see see you can

624
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,320
you can put things too cold anyway. By the way, it was a

625
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:36,000
bunch of men fighting about it,
not women. I've never ever said the

626
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,440
thermostat's too cold in my house.
Okay, So I don't want to talk

627
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,039
about the other things that are happening. We should save that for next week.

628
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:47,239
But since you asked, there are
some I mean, I think the

629
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:53,719
the Jack Smith trial over confidential documents
is slated to begin next month. I

630
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,519
don't think anyone actually thinks it will
happen, in part because there are so

631
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:02,440
many fights over what evidence is admissible
or inadmissible. There's been some super interesting

632
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:08,960
release of formally redacted or documents that
were attempted to be redacted, that has

633
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:16,119
all sorts of interesting information about how
much the Biden DOJ threatened people, and

634
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:21,039
you and played hardball to gin up
this case against Trump, which was actually

635
00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:24,559
considered one of the best cases but
is kind of under scrutiny not looking so

636
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:31,679
good. Unsurprisingly, you are delayed
on the other Jack Smith trial, which

637
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:37,840
is the anti free speech one,
the one claiming Donald Trump doesn't have free

638
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:43,159
speech, because the Supreme Court is
ruling on well, actually tomorrow they're going

639
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,000
to hear immunity arguments, which I
actually think they will side with the government

640
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,960
on, but I could be wrong. And so once that's resolved, that'll

641
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,480
probably come out at the end of
the term, or other things will come

642
00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:58,320
out at the end of the term, like this other Supreme Court case about

643
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,519
whether you can use an obscure sar
binz Oxley provision to go after political protesters,

644
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,320
just the ones you don't like,
And so that won't happen until later

645
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:15,239
in the summer, and then there's
ongoing issues with the is it Letitia James

646
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:20,320
saying, you know, she just
lost her attempt to further harm Donald Trump's

647
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:27,679
financial position on Monday. And then
there's the funny Willis corruption trial, which

648
00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:32,320
has been bogged down by various pleadings
related to her own corruption and conspiring.

649
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,679
So it's a lot of lawfair going
on all up and all over the place.

650
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:39,679
Did you see Liz Cheney, I
believe it was in the New York

651
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:45,320
Times had an op ed where essentially, as many others have admitted through their

652
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,760
writing that they believe that all of
this needs to happen before the election,

653
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,199
which it just tells me that this
is all about the election, and I

654
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:58,119
you know, they're admitting that it's
law fair. They're admitting that they're trying

655
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:01,280
to affect the election through this law
fair, and that's it, you know.

656
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:08,079
I mean, it's so how can
I say it? It's so obvious

657
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:13,920
that everyone knows it, and yet
we're still going through all this so anyway,

658
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,119
in part because corporate media act as
if this is all legitimate, and

659
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:22,840
that's what's very you know, it's
it's very offensive to see people just covering

660
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,719
it like it's these are real trials
or real things. And I'm not saying

661
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,920
that the repercussions aren't very real,
you know, just like happens in other

662
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,960
countries, particularly you know, reminiscent
of the Soviet Union and other places like

663
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,599
that, you can get convictions.
In fact, you can get convictions.

664
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,559
That's what I was going to say, Well, do you think there's any

665
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:45,079
chance, even an outside chance of
Dury and York's like, this is not

666
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:51,000
snow. So I was talking to
someone at Fox who is an attorney,

667
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:54,239
and they thought that actually there that
this is such a bad case, it's

668
00:51:54,239 --> 00:52:00,159
like such a joke, and since
it only takes one person to withstand and

669
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:05,719
the pressure of the entire world,
that maybe there will be no conviction.

670
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:08,920
But I think it's far saner to
just to anticipate a conviction, like a

671
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:14,679
quick conviction, and that every you
know, no one's been stopping any of

672
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:21,320
this. No wiser minds have prevailed
on any score. So it's just the

673
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,719
whole point is to get a quick
and easy conviction. They're going to get

674
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,800
a quick and easy conviction, whether
it's this one, this one, this

675
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,760
one's actually one of the easiest ways
or one of the other trials, they

676
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:37,599
will get their conviction, just like
Alexander Navalney was easily convicted in Russian show

677
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:44,079
trials, and political prisoners all over
the world get easily convicted in show trials.

678
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:50,320
And when you run Democrat prosecutors running
Democrat like crazy novel as they say,

679
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,559
novel theories meaning never before ever used
against anyone else who's not orange,

680
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:59,960
in front of Democrat juries and Democrat
judges, Democrat jurisdictions, you're gonna get

681
00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:04,039
at the conviction. And it's kind
of cope to think, like, well,

682
00:53:04,119 --> 00:53:07,159
maybe maybe wiser minds will prevail.
I mean, they might, but

683
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,880
it's not worth it. I mean, my expectation is that there'll be a

684
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:15,440
conviction. I'm just wondering. I
think that that would be an incredible moment.

685
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,119
You know, if a jury,
even a few members of a jury

686
00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:22,119
said no. I mean, I
don't think it's going to happen, Considering

687
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:28,559
considering the comments I've seen from potential
jurors, I don't think that he has

688
00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:34,719
a chance. Last political topic,
I just want to touch on what's going

689
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:43,480
on at Columbia University and other former
places of former elite institutions. So obviously.

690
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:45,440
I mean, I'll just give you
my position. You know. My

691
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:52,440
view of this is that there are
pro hamas antisemitic protests going on targeted at

692
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,159
a lot of Jewish kids, and
Jewish people who have nothing to do with

693
00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:00,280
Israel don't control Israeli policy, even
if Israeli policy was wrong, which I

694
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:06,320
don't think it is. And here
is what really so, I think a

695
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,000
lot of people believe this is just
about Jews or just about Israel. I

696
00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:15,400
think that's wrong in some sense.
I think this is a issue that folks

697
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,039
who spend tens of thousands of dollars
every year to send their kids to colleges,

698
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,440
to all kinds of colleges, elite
ones, but maybe not so elite.

699
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:27,000
And by the way, when I
say elite, there are in quotation

700
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:30,840
marks. At this point is that
this is why I should hear the scare

701
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:36,239
quest in your You're sending your kids
to places that will teach them to hate

702
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,280
decency, not just America, not
just Israel, but decency. These are

703
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:49,079
indecent people making a historical, not
even a historical pseudohistorical arguments justifying murder of

704
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:54,119
civilians. They are they are terrible
people, and it really makes you think

705
00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:59,920
about, you know, where we're
going, I think as a country,

706
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,320
So I think it's a bigger issue
than that. And then when the president

707
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:12,360
can't even makes odious moral relativistic comments
about you know, both sides. October

708
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,679
seventh. I don't know that sus
something terrible about where we are right now,

709
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,599
I think, and I think it
matters for those reasons as well.

710
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:31,079
No, nothing, I mean I
am so unsurprised by what we're seeing on

711
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:37,760
these campuses. I am mildly annoyed
at people who are surprised or who are

712
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:45,679
acting like this is somehow materially different
than all of the intolerance that has been

713
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:51,519
bred there for decades. Like number
one, I like to remind people that

714
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:58,639
the BLM riots that they all supported
the BLM agenda included support for Hamas.

715
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:02,599
Do you remember that? I do? So, like people are like,

716
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:08,440
can you believe that four years later
the current incarnation of the BLM rioters is

717
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,719
anti Semitic, And it's like,
yeah, I can believe it. And

718
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,199
by the way, when I was
like pointing that out four years ago,

719
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:20,159
Mitt Romney was like marching with them
in the frickin' streets. So for the

720
00:56:20,199 --> 00:56:22,719
Republicans to all be like, this
is very bad now. I'm like,

721
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:29,159
where the heck have you guys been? Why is it bad now? It

722
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:30,599
is very bad now. By the
way, it's terrifying, Like I'm horrified

723
00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:34,960
and I see these, you know. By the way, AOC the other

724
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:39,440
day was in the Bronx or something
and she's she's giving a speech in defense

725
00:56:39,519 --> 00:56:45,119
of the peaceful Palestinian protesters. And
while I was watching it, I was

726
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:49,079
watching it on a split screen with
what was happening at Columbia at that moment,

727
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,320
and it was like Jewish students getting
things thrown at their head, and

728
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:58,719
she just kept saying peaceful, peaceful, And you know, but having said

729
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,039
that, God bless her, like
she knows to support her people and people

730
00:57:02,119 --> 00:57:07,800
on the right. The left has
never disavowed Lewis Ferricon, you know,

731
00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:12,400
in fact, they kind of celebrate
him, and the right is easily cowed

732
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:16,920
by mister ice cream liquor saying would
you please give us everything we asked for

733
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:22,960
nothing in return? Yeah, I
mean I think there were some differences.

734
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:29,119
There were some differences between BLM and
I agree with everything you said. I'm

735
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:32,960
just saying that it's easier to scare
people by calling them racist or cow cow

736
00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:37,599
them into submission, which is what
they did. I don't know that many

737
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:40,519
people understand the depth of the kind
of the bigoted hatred that goes on in

738
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:45,920
these progressive groups with BLM, but
also the Women's March. Virtually every founder

739
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:52,199
of the Women's March was a complete
anti semi fans of Louis Farakhon. I

740
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:54,760
mean, why are we even making
like, of course they are there the

741
00:57:55,039 --> 00:58:04,559
racism of the dei like belief system
that is the complete basis of the Democrat

742
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:07,320
Party, by the way, Like
that's all they've been doing for decades is

743
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,719
calling their opponents racist, calling them
bigoted, and also you know, just

744
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,599
being very racist and bigoted. And
how they did it, and people seemed

745
00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:20,679
kind of like okay with it,
Like it was okay for Joe Biden to

746
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:25,039
say Mitt Romney wanted to put you
in chains, And now that the Columbia

747
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:30,519
students are saying that Israel wants to
put all of you know, the Arabs

748
00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:31,679
and chains or whatever, people are
like, oh, this is bad now.

749
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:34,880
It's like, well, it's always
been bad. It's always been a

750
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:40,800
hateful, destructive ideology, and it's
not more bad because it's happening right now

751
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,800
to Jewish students, like, it's
it's just evil, it's I want everyone

752
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,760
to renounce it all, not just
the anti semitism of it, like and

753
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,920
I want the people who supported it
up until the moment it broke out into

754
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,519
open jew hatred to admit that they
were wrong to tolerate it when it targeted

755
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:05,400
people that didn't look like them.
Listen, I think this is counterproductive to

756
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:10,239
demand the people coming to their senses? You know, actually, are they

757
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:14,239
coming to their senses? You look
at someone like Bill Ackman and he's like,

758
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,159
DEI is great, but it can't
be antisemitic. It's like, well,

759
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:22,960
you get to pick one. I
think that some people are coming to

760
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:28,320
their senses. Some aren't. There
have always been. I don't like when

761
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,320
people talk and I do it too, probably when people talk about Jews as

762
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,760
a group in this way, you
know, Like I know Alan Dershwitz has

763
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,039
sort of been a conservative for a
bit, but you know, he's always

764
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:38,920
been pro free speech. I actually
just think he's an old fashioned liberal.

765
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,559
And there are many Jews who were
that way about speech. Now I'm not

766
00:59:43,559 --> 00:59:45,400
saying that they're going to go out
on a limb and lose their jobs to

767
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:50,360
defend you know, some conservative speaker
at a college. But I think that

768
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,679
many of them are coming to the
realization that this crosses all kinds of lions.

769
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,559
I'm just happy that people are waking
up. I'm very and I am

770
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:02,719
surprised. I know what you said, but I'm a little surprised at how

771
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:08,400
wide spread the open hatred is.
Meaning I am a little surprised that the

772
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:16,360
president of the United States can't simply, unequivocally, specifically say anti Semitism that's

773
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,280
going on is wrong. He has
to throw in Islamophobia, he has to

774
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,199
throw in this or that. And
by the way, this is the guy

775
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:27,480
that lied, because he lies about
virtually everything that he ran for president,

776
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:30,760
because of what happened in Charlottesville and
what the press, Donald Trump said.

777
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,960
What he did the other day is
by any measure, every measure, worse

778
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:40,920
than what Donald Trump did during that
small outbreak of one hundred people. Incidentally,

779
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:49,840
and I want to just remind people
that what he was lambasted for not

780
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,079
just by Democrats, not just by
the media, but even by Mitch McConnell

781
01:00:54,199 --> 01:01:00,000
and other so called leaders of the
Republican Party was saying that there were good

782
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:07,840
people on both sides of the debate
about whether to tear down statues, good

783
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,760
people on both sides of the debate
about whether to tear down statues. That

784
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,559
was falsely claimed to be a view
that there are both there are people on

785
01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:23,159
good people on both sides of the
debate about racism, and that was not

786
01:01:23,239 --> 01:01:29,000
true because at the time that he
said that, you know, tearing down

787
01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:31,840
statues, that's like an open debate, which was by the way, way

788
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,519
too generous to the people who want
to tear down statues. But let's leave

789
01:01:35,519 --> 01:01:43,519
that aside. That he condemned,
you know, condemned repeatedly and unequivocally white

790
01:01:43,639 --> 01:01:50,719
nationalists and racists and whatnot. And
then for the next two years everyone said,

791
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,320
but did you say it in the
way that we wanted you to say

792
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,000
it. We wanted you to use
these particular words, and you didn't use

793
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,679
these particular words. And so every
day, I mean, it was mass

794
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:06,440
hysteria, widespread mass hysteria. And
then this week Joe Biden says, there

795
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:15,519
are good people on both sides of
October seventh, and it's crickets. I

796
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:21,960
actually wondered because Mitch McConnell emerged from
his shell yesterday to condemn his voters.

797
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:25,559
I was like, okay, but
I bet he was savvy enough to condemn

798
01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:30,639
Joe Biden as well, for saying
they're good people on both sides of the

799
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:34,960
horrific October seventh attack, which is, you know what this debate is all

800
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,079
about. This is when the protest
started. It was October seventh. It's

801
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:42,760
not you know, that's I feel
like people are like losing side of what

802
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,440
that was. It even like losing
remembrance of what it was. Those videos,

803
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:51,320
those images, those stories are so
horrible. I can like barely think

804
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,960
about them, and yet we just
move on and we just act like they're

805
01:02:53,960 --> 01:03:00,320
not even real, right. And
Mitch McConnell, who the day after Donald

806
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,599
Trump said that there were good people
on both sides of the debate about whether

807
01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:08,639
to tear down statues, came out
and said there are good people on both

808
01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:14,320
SuDS, and yesterday, when he
had a perfect opportunity to go after his

809
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,960
best friend Joe Biden for this,
was totally silent. Yep, yep,

810
01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:23,480
you know. And it's even worse
in a way. It's like he has

811
01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:29,599
not first of all, hamas is
not accepting any ceasefires. So all these

812
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:35,320
protests and they're just anti Israel.
Israel could literally give Gaza tomorrow to Hamas

813
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:38,800
and those and they would still want
Israel destroyed. There's no play caating mollifying

814
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:45,039
these people. But more than that, the media lied also here because before

815
01:03:45,079 --> 01:03:47,840
he was asked that question and both
sided it. He put out a statement

816
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:54,039
for Passover, and in that statement
he condemned anti Semitism. But then when

817
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:58,159
prattled on about two state solutions,
he wants to give Hamas a state,

818
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,280
right, talked about others and all
this nonsense. So I looked it up.

819
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:06,800
His rama Don statement only from last
month. He noted the terrible suffering

820
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:13,000
of the Palestinian Palestinians. He repeated
the fake Comas casualty numbers, so he

821
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:18,639
repeated the terrorist propaganda. He talked
about Islamophobia. Nowhere was there a mention

822
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:25,000
of anti Semitism or anything. But
yet you cannot find a single Democrat talk

823
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,400
about anti Semitism without mentioning Islamophobia.
There is no Islamophobia going on, and

824
01:04:29,519 --> 01:04:33,800
right now in Columbia or Yale or
anywhere else, AOC stands there and says

825
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:38,400
it's peaceful. But the media also
does that. I saw a NPR reporter

826
01:04:38,599 --> 01:04:42,480
say that, I saw a Washington
Post reporter say that that it's mostly peaceful.

827
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,360
That's a really, that's a so
you know what, most neo Nazi

828
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,519
marches are also mostly peaceful, and
no one sits there and says they're fine.

829
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:56,559
So, yeah, we have a
Charlottesville every day and Democrats don't care.

830
01:04:56,639 --> 01:04:59,039
They're for it. Most of them
are for it. Stephen Miller,

831
01:04:59,159 --> 01:05:02,079
not the four or Trump person,
but the other tweeter who I like,

832
01:05:02,199 --> 01:05:06,639
he said these Yeah, he he, I think properly said he. You

833
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:10,800
know, he points out how he
aoc hates her jobs, that she tastes

834
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,239
her job, and that she wishes
she could be a Columbia, you know,

835
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,639
chasing Jewish students off campus. And
I think that that's completely correct.

836
01:05:15,719 --> 01:05:20,119
All those squad members are like that. I contant you know this. I've

837
01:05:20,159 --> 01:05:25,559
been writing about this for the Federals
for many, many years. The there's

838
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:30,000
anti Semitism all over. It's not
ideologically specific, it's fringy. Yeah,

839
01:05:30,039 --> 01:05:34,239
it is embedded with Ian right now
the Democratic Party in a way that it

840
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:38,639
is not in the Republican Party.
Candice Owen doesn't have is not a congress

841
01:05:38,719 --> 01:05:43,719
woman, aoc Is Bowman is ilhan
Omar is on and on and on,

842
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,559
and now Joe Biden works to modify
them, not the Jewish voters, because

843
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:50,679
Jewish voters no longer matter as much
the Democratic Party. And that's just how

844
01:05:50,719 --> 01:05:55,320
it is. Anyway. You know, this issue gets me very worked up.

845
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,639
It's gonna be come, it's gonna
it's gonna be hard to come down

846
01:05:58,639 --> 01:06:01,800
off my high horse. Right now, we've gone on long. So should

847
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,639
we close out with some culture discussions? Do you have any culture discussions too?

848
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:14,440
I went to the zoo on Saturday. Yeah, and I hate zoos.

849
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,880
Have I told you about that?
No, you haven't. I am

850
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,320
the youngest child, and somehow I
missed out on going to zoos as a

851
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,840
kid. I say somehow, but
like actually quite hilariously. Twice I fell

852
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,639
asleep on a bus ride to a
zoo for a field trip and they just

853
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:32,360
left me on the bus and didn't
let me come into the zoo. So

854
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:36,039
at the age of fifteen, my
dad was sort of like, oh gosh,

855
01:06:36,039 --> 01:06:39,239
we've got to get her to a
zoo, and he took me to

856
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:44,320
the Denver Zoo and I was horrified
by it. There were these beautiful big

857
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,840
cats in tiny, you know,
glass type cages, and it just made

858
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:53,920
me really sad. And I'm obviously
not an animal rights person, but i

859
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,000
just feel very strongly like I want
these big animals to be able to roam

860
01:06:58,039 --> 01:07:02,559
freely. My husband thinks that this
iss that zoos actually help preserve species by

861
01:07:02,639 --> 01:07:08,159
raising awareness and you know, interest
from a wide variety of people. But

862
01:07:08,239 --> 01:07:12,000
anyway, quimping. I had not
taken my kid to a zoo either,

863
01:07:12,519 --> 01:07:15,320
and we've been doing different things each
weekend, and so we went to the

864
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:20,440
National Zoo. It's mostly devoted to
pandas, except they don't have any pandas

865
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:26,639
now, so just these huge,
like actually nice areas for pandas but no

866
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,760
pandas, And then lots of signage
is all like they're their motto is kind

867
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,039
of or not mono there what do
you call it? Like their mascot is

868
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:39,960
they're the little There's pictures of pandas
everywhere, but they're gone. But I

869
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,800
really did enjoy some of the bird
bird stuff, which also of course made

870
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:50,000
me sad because birds should be free
to fly. Such loser very animal specific

871
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:53,239
on this, like if I don't
like the animal. I'm happy it's in

872
01:07:53,239 --> 01:07:58,079
a cage. I did see a
Kimodo dragon that was probably I love.

873
01:07:58,119 --> 01:08:01,239
What's my favorite animal? I love? So every time we do stuff with

874
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,039
my kids, I'm like, what
was your favorite part? And they'll ask

875
01:08:04,119 --> 01:08:08,639
me too, and I'm just like
obsessed with Kmodo dragons. I walked way

876
01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:13,320
out of the way to see the
Komodo dragon and then it we were near

877
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,359
Adams Morgan. We were doing a
really long walk in DC, and so

878
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,760
I there used to be some good
record stores there. I knew they were

879
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,520
gone, but there was a different
record store there. So I went in

880
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:30,119
there and I got this. I
got like some good albums and one thing,

881
01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:33,279
you know, one thing that was
weird, like I got. Then

882
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:36,039
I'm saying, we need outro music, so you're going to have to just

883
01:08:36,119 --> 01:08:43,760
mention one of these albums. So
I well, I got the iconic Go

884
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,479
Gos album. We got the Beat. Vacation, the vacation location, I

885
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,680
don't know if it's called vacation,
forgive me if it's not. Ever the

886
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:56,039
one where they're ski they're water skiing, they're all water skiing and singing.

887
01:08:56,039 --> 01:08:59,239
I think that was the video for
vacation and that's the that's on the cover

888
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:04,439
of this Okay, And so it's
an okay album And like they were,

889
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:10,520
they were good. I really like
them. And sorry that I'm I'm trying

890
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,119
to get the name of the album
and I'm and I'm struggling. Just you

891
01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:17,000
know, I spent Oh yeah,
it's Go Gos Vacation. Yeah, and

892
01:09:17,039 --> 01:09:20,800
I the Denver Zoo now does not
keep the big cats in very small cages.

893
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,960
They have like a really nice are
last time I was at the Denver

894
01:09:25,039 --> 01:09:29,920
Zoo, I'm sure I don't care
how big the cage is. Cheyenne Zoo

895
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,640
in Colorado Springs that's a great zoo. You can feed the giraffes and stuff.

896
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,760
Okay, I really just want them
to be free, and I don't.

897
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,239
It just makes me very said.
Okay, so it was Go Gos

898
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:44,039
Vacation. Then I got something I'd
been wanting for a long time, which

899
01:09:44,079 --> 01:09:47,960
is the Vision Quest soundtrack. And
have you seen that movie? Of course?

900
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,039
You know how my you know my
age, that's what Madonna and Matthew

901
01:09:53,079 --> 01:09:58,079
Modine and that Linda Fiorentino. Yeah, super hot. So it's like totally

902
01:09:58,119 --> 01:10:01,800
inappropriate. It's amazing how inappropriate.
The eighties teen movies were I mean,

903
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,159
right, isn't it about like having
an affair with an older woman? Yes?

904
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,720
Also how he develops like an eating
disorder, I think. But anyway,

905
01:10:10,119 --> 01:10:15,479
excellent soundtrack and it goes yeah,
and she's in the movie, and

906
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:21,880
it's also one of my favorite songs
that's in there, and also the Lunatic

907
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,920
Fringe song, which is great,
so I keep playing that. And then

908
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,520
I got the Blonde Redhead Melody of
Certain Damaged Lemons. That one was worth

909
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,680
the most because it was a first
edition whatever type thing. I own that

910
01:10:35,119 --> 01:10:38,239
as I'm leaving. I mean,
it was a huge. It was like

911
01:10:38,279 --> 01:10:40,399
a lot of people there, small
store, and then I was like,

912
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,279
oh is it record store Day?
Oh yeah, and it was like,

913
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,000
uh yeah. First of all,
I actually understood I don't get so then

914
01:10:49,079 --> 01:10:50,319
then I was like, oh,
you know, I should go to my

915
01:10:50,359 --> 01:10:55,960
local record store. So I took
an uber there with my kid, met

916
01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:00,039
my husband there, and there I
got a Jill Scott comp because I realized

917
01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:03,640
it didn't have an Ahl Scott.
But it was there that I realized I

918
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:08,039
don't understand what record store Day is. Do you understand what it is?

919
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:13,359
I think It started as a way
to help boost Vinyl sales for local record

920
01:11:13,399 --> 01:11:16,479
stores. But I know, what
I do know is that I'm not really

921
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,439
a huge fan of it because a
lot of the reissues they do are just

922
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:25,279
the regular old album, but a
lot of interesting new reissues happen, and

923
01:11:25,319 --> 01:11:29,960
I do like that, but it's
sort of become very I don't know,

924
01:11:30,039 --> 01:11:32,159
it seems like kind of a rip
off most of the time. But like

925
01:11:32,199 --> 01:11:35,159
I say, I think initially it
was for to help local record stores.

926
01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:38,600
What's interesting I saw a story is
that I think this year, for the

927
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:43,000
first time in a long time,
Vinyl will out sell compact discs again.

928
01:11:43,359 --> 01:11:45,439
And I can tell you that's not
something I thought would happen in you know,

929
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:50,479
nineteen eighty seven or eight when I
first bought my first compact disc.

930
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:57,880
But anyway, yeah, that's cool. Anything else, I think the DC

931
01:11:58,039 --> 01:12:00,479
Zoo I've been to a lot.
My kids loved zoo as I used to

932
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:04,159
go all the time. I think
the DC Zoo is actually relatively fun to

933
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:08,239
walk around, and it is kind
of big. I think, Okay,

934
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,520
the Denver Zoo I thought was better. I think it's an excellent zoo.

935
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,880
I know my extended family likes to
do things at that zoo, like zoo

936
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,199
lights, and I think they have
concerts there or something like that. But

937
01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:26,000
yeah, I'm just I'm not I'm
not a zoo person and I've really tried.

938
01:12:26,039 --> 01:12:28,439
But I actually had a good I
had a good time there, and

939
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:32,640
I was glad that I went.
We also saw some great eight type you

940
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:40,439
know, rang tang Western Lowland you
know. Uh so that was cool.

941
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:45,199
I liked that, And and elephants
and lions, tigers, moto dragons are

942
01:12:45,239 --> 01:12:47,399
amazing because they can like bite you
and kill you. They can have they

943
01:12:47,399 --> 01:12:53,439
have poisonous like corrosive acidic saliva that
breaks you down. And then I was

944
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,279
watching a documentary they just get in
the water and they'll like swim like ten

945
01:12:57,319 --> 01:13:00,880
miles to some outlying island to come
kill you. They are like the most

946
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,600
deadly animal and they're just a lot
of fun. They don't usually move at

947
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,760
the zoo. They kind of lay
there. But when they move, You're

948
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:10,479
like, wow, this is amazing
that this exists. Thank you, that's

949
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,800
much. I did watch two movies
Cool do you want to go first?

950
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,159
Though? I also watched two movies. But why don't you just go first?

951
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,680
I mean, one was Moulin Rouge, which I really like and my

952
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:27,760
husband does not like because he's a
man, and but I genuinely, I

953
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,800
don't know why exactly like it,
but I just I've never been a huge

954
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,640
fan of musicals, but the way
that they use modern music to tell a

955
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,720
love story I think is great.
And even that it's sort of normal people

956
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,840
doing the singing makes it. I
like when they do that. I like

957
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:45,159
when like there's someone doesn't you know, isn't professional singer singing. I always

958
01:13:45,279 --> 01:13:47,279
kind of enjoy that. But yeah, I haven't that movie is was out

959
01:13:47,279 --> 01:13:50,760
a while, like twenty years ago, right or something. And then so

960
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:56,039
this was like a movie night with
one of one of the kids, and

961
01:13:56,239 --> 01:14:02,039
then we watched the new Lindsay Lowhan
movie Irish Wish. Is this like a

962
01:14:02,079 --> 01:14:05,600
Hallmark movie kind of thing or it
would be along those lines, but it's

963
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:11,359
you know, it's just Netflix and
very bad, but in a totally enjoyable

964
01:14:11,359 --> 01:14:14,800
way. I found. I like
sometimes bad movies, I don't know how

965
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,840
to explain it, but it's just
delightful to enjoy the silliness of it all.

966
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:26,680
And this was pretty silly. I
liked it that I hear I have

967
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:31,880
three things. My wife had never
seen a Roadhouse the original, so we

968
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,439
watched it. I have I don't
know if I have seen that bego.

969
01:14:35,079 --> 01:14:38,199
I used to love it as a
kid, and what's not to love.

970
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:43,159
It's fighting, you know, naked, you know women, and you know

971
01:14:44,079 --> 01:14:46,800
nonsense. But it does not hold
up. It did not hold up,

972
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:51,760
and it was disappointing. Yeah,
it's just like just didn't hold up anyway.

973
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:56,880
That was disappointing. You always romanticize
your youth, you know what I

974
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,520
mean. Then I saw two other
more yeah, or modern movies, contemporary

975
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,039
movies. I saw Glass. Do
you know what that is? No,

976
01:15:03,359 --> 01:15:10,560
it's about Philip Glass. Now it's
a movie by m knighth Shamoh, and

977
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,199
it's like him. It like combined. Do you remember the movie Breakable?

978
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:21,399
Unbreakable? Oh, unbreakable sorry,
which is Bruce Willis Unbreakable get the whole

979
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:26,319
point of the movie off. So
Bruce Willis isn't it? And uh uh

980
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,640
Samuel L. Jackson. But it
also has the character from a movie called

981
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:36,359
Split that he did, which was
that actor's name, James James McAvoy.

982
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:42,119
I think who plays like all these
characters? And I had to say it

983
01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:45,840
wasn't great, you know, but
all these movies are slick and nice to

984
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,439
look at, but the story wasn't
there, Okay. And then I saw

985
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:56,520
movie yoused So and we talked about
American fiction with It's his name, Jeffrey

986
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,680
Wright, where he plays that author
who is you know, I thought that

987
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:05,479
so anyway, he's, would you
say, like an upper class African American

988
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,039
who, like, you know,
I think his brother and sister are both

989
01:16:09,079 --> 01:16:12,800
doctors, this and that, but
he and he's sort of put off by

990
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:17,039
how black writers are always kind of, lack of a better word, put

991
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:21,279
in a ghetto of writing to write
only about like what white people kind of

992
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:27,039
perceive as black issues. I guess
is that a fair way to describe it.

993
01:16:27,159 --> 01:16:30,479
Like I love that scene where the
black woman's talk like she's very intelligent

994
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,319
and then she's reading out of her
book. Yeah and that, and that

995
01:16:33,359 --> 01:16:36,520
white woman just stands up and like
starts clapping like crazy, Like I just

996
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,159
thought that was great. So I
think it touches on some interesting stuff and

997
01:16:40,199 --> 01:16:43,359
it's kind of an interesting and in
a way brave ish movie, but I

998
01:16:43,359 --> 01:16:46,319
don't think it goes far enough.
It's kind of both sides it and uh,

999
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,840
so and it seems like it's going
to be about that, but it's

1000
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,439
actually about more about family, you
know what I mean, and friendships and

1001
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,239
stuff. So I thought it was
very well made. I liked it,

1002
01:16:57,359 --> 01:17:01,960
not you and I liked it,
but it kind of made me sad how

1003
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:06,680
it just sort of fell apart at
the end, but like it could have

1004
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:12,119
been done better, but I still
liked it. Yeah, I think my

1005
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:17,000
expectation was that it would be about
something more socio political or cultural, when

1006
01:17:17,039 --> 01:17:20,600
it's really more just a personal movie
about the guy. So it was like

1007
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,359
but in the end, after the
movie, you know, after sometimes you

1008
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,720
watch a movie or like, I
can't believe I just wasted two hours of

1009
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,359
my life, and sometimes you're like, well that was interesting, and I

1010
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,159
thought about it afterwards. So I
think American fiction would fall in the latter

1011
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:36,520
category for me. So if I
had to recommend it, didn't it.

1012
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,840
I think it was nominated for Oscars
and stuff, right, pretty sure it

1013
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:45,000
was. Yeah, Well, I
did think Jeffrey Wright was extremely good in

1014
01:17:45,039 --> 01:17:48,960
that. And I say that as
someone who's been yelled at on Twitter by

1015
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:54,800
Jeffrey Wright, so oh yeah,
oh yeah, he's nane. But I've

1016
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,319
never seen him be bad in anything. I think he's a really high quality

1017
01:17:58,359 --> 01:18:01,960
actor, you know, yeah,
yeah, it's just it's good. And

1018
01:18:02,039 --> 01:18:05,399
I did think I think it was
a directorial debut by whoever directed it,

1019
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,720
and so I thought, if that's
your debut, you're starting off really well.

1020
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:14,239
Like he could get much better.
They did it weirdly felt like to

1021
01:18:14,319 --> 01:18:16,159
me. You might disagree. I
don't even know if you watch his movies,

1022
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:20,159
but it felt weirdly like a witty
allen Ish kind of movie in a

1023
01:18:20,199 --> 01:18:25,319
way, like it was the way
the conversations went, in the way he

1024
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:30,640
filmed it. And also maybe because
it was about upper class you know people

1025
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,279
and stuff like that. I don't
know, I don't know. It was

1026
01:18:32,319 --> 01:18:38,479
all right. I'm also, Oh, I just want to repeat one last

1027
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:44,600
thing on culture. I thought the
show Fallout was just freaking amazing. I

1028
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,560
loved it, and I don't say
that often. I don't know if it's

1029
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,359
for you, Molly, I would
say maybe probably it's not for you,

1030
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:56,600
but if you like science fiction and
Murkie science fiction and it's on Amazon,

1031
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,680
and I just Walton Goggins was in, it was just amazing and I liked

1032
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:09,600
everyone in it. That was great. Nothing I might try it. I'm

1033
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,920
going to just tell you ahead of
time. You might not like it.

1034
01:19:12,079 --> 01:19:15,039
I thought it was good. It
is very gratuitous violence in it. No,

1035
01:19:15,399 --> 01:19:18,520
I don't like that. Yeah,
I just remembered that there's this other

1036
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,680
thing I've been slowly watching while I
work out. Was I talking about this

1037
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:29,439
last week? I don't know.
It's Steve Martin's a Steve Martin documentary called

1038
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:34,840
Steve Martin. No, I think
I watched this maybe. I don't know.

1039
01:19:35,359 --> 01:19:42,319
It's like three hours long and I'm
not done, but it's on Apple

1040
01:19:42,359 --> 01:19:45,319
Plus, and I am really enjoying
it. I find him to be an

1041
01:19:45,399 --> 01:19:49,720
intriguing person, and I never was
super into his comedy. But the first

1042
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:54,079
half is about his comedy, and
then the second half I think is going

1043
01:19:54,119 --> 01:19:59,960
to be about like movies and his
personal life. I did not never enjoy

1044
01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:02,439
his early comedy at all. I
found it to be like like the King

1045
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:08,159
tut stuff and the like he was
when I was really young, his stand

1046
01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:11,399
up like he'd fill stadiums up,
you know, and it was he was

1047
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:15,000
incredibly popular and then I was young, But later I didn't get it either.

1048
01:20:15,119 --> 01:20:17,159
So I don't know if it's just
a generational thing or not, But

1049
01:20:17,239 --> 01:20:23,720
I like him. He's interesting and
smart. Right there, tried to add

1050
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:28,600
to that discussion. I don't think
I really did. Okay, Well,

1051
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,239
who knows what's going to happen this
week. We'll talk about it next week.

1052
01:20:31,319 --> 01:20:42,319
Until then, he never was Freedom