1 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,879 Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong with Me David Harsani 2 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,280 and Molly Hemingway. If you have anything to write the show, please do 3 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,719 at radio at the Federalist dot com. We love your mail, Molly. 4 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,560 How's it going going? All right? How are you doing good? Did 5 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:40,320 you have a nice Memorial Day? Did? One of my kids was confirmed 6 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:48,159 in her Lutheran faith on Pentecost and her godparents came in with their kids, 7 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,039 so we had a wonderful family time. It was just great. That's great. 8 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,119 What about you? Yeah, that was nice enough. So some family 9 00:00:58,039 --> 00:01:00,719 I should bought you something. I was in an old book store. Yeah, 10 00:01:00,759 --> 00:01:03,520 I was in an old bookstore and they had I was just looking through 11 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,280 some old magazines and stuff, and they had a magazine from nineteen twenty called 12 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,319 The Lutheran and it's for American Lutherans. Yeah, and I just bought one 13 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:15,359 for you just so you could check it out. That's great, Although you 14 00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:19,000 know, there's like a joke about how many different denominations there are, but 15 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,439 if it was in the English, it's probably not my kind of Lutheran. 16 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:26,959 It might be fun to look at. Ifely, have you ever heard of 17 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:33,560 the saying it's the thought that counts. Oh, I'm looking forward to it. 18 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:37,200 I did not mean to sound in any way like anything other than an 19 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:42,359 awesome gift idea. I'm just kidding. I think we should just hit on. 20 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:47,040 We obviously don't want to get into this too much because there's a lot 21 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:49,640 to it, and as you mentioned before the show, it's probably a little 22 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,879 boring. But the dead ceiling and negotiations are over. For me, this 23 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,920 is all kabuki theater. They knew no one was going to default. It 24 00:01:56,959 --> 00:02:00,000 was never going to be a great deal because no one's going to default. 25 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:04,280 Enough Republicans can pretend that, you know that. They're all upset because they 26 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:07,120 know there are enough votes for it to go through. Some progressives are going 27 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:08,719 to not vote for it because they know it'll go through. It will go 28 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,319 through. I don't think it's the worst thing ever. I know a lot 29 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,800 of conservatives are super mad about it. I think anything you get is something 30 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:20,080 these days, especially in this kind of negotiation, and there are some good 31 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,960 things in it, but it doesn't really cut spending in any real way. 32 00:02:23,719 --> 00:02:27,599 Yeah, I mean, I think I agree with you in the main, 33 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,960 although you're being a little too kind to what a bad deal it is. 34 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:37,400 I mean, it really is setting in spending at levels that never should have 35 00:02:37,439 --> 00:02:42,919 been reached during the COVID crisis and acting like that's like a normal, acceptable 36 00:02:43,039 --> 00:02:46,120 level of spending. We already have so many problems with our entitlement spending that 37 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:53,240 literally no one wants to tackle that. It's a bad situation. So I 38 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:59,879 also understand that Republicans only control one chamber, that they barely control it, 39 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,240 and so I think I had more realistic expectations. Maybe, But I'm also 40 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:08,400 open to the argument two things. One that there was more leverage there that 41 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:21,319 could have been utilized by the Republican negotiators. And I mean, it's like 42 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,360 even worse than that guy who ran for president Rick Perry. That I can't 43 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,960 remember what my second one is anyway, I agree, I agree with that 44 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,360 point. I agree it could have been better. It should have been better. 45 00:03:31,439 --> 00:03:35,439 Oh I know what it was. Yeah, sorry that I don't like 46 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,879 being told that this is super awesome, that the deal is super awesome. 47 00:03:38,039 --> 00:03:42,439 If you said, listen, not so great, but actually pretty great that 48 00:03:42,479 --> 00:03:46,719 we got anything, given how little we control anything, I would be much 49 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:47,680 more like, yeah, that sounds about right. When you're told, like, 50 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,960 this is the best deal that's ever been crafted in the history mankind. 51 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,919 You're like, I don't think it is, because they overpromised, you know, 52 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,000 they were they were bashing everything Biden had done. But in the end, 53 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,520 we're at the same where an emergency spending baseline, which is always going 54 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,960 to you know, whatever they spend. That's where we are forever, and 55 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,039 we just move they move forward. But also, you can't fix everything in 56 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,960 what one debt ceiling debate. You know, it's going to take a long 57 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,319 time. I don't think anything's gonna be fixed. It's gonna take a long 58 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,439 time. In general, I do wish that Congress understood how much power it 59 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:23,319 has by having the power of the purse and really worked harder on it. 60 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:30,879 And there are things that could be accomplished by Republicans sticking together here. Yeah, 61 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,639 for the budget appropriation stuff, I agree. I think we were so 62 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,720 servatives or fiscal concervatives are so used to losing that any tiny victory is something 63 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,680 to cherish and celebrate, you know. But yeah, I mean it sucks. 64 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,040 It's Oh, everything's on the wrong trajectory. Let's talk about something else. 65 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:59,920 Um, So I wanted to touch on these boycotts, and in particular 66 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,399 or two of them. One is obviously the bud Light boycott, which seems 67 00:05:03,439 --> 00:05:08,680 to be working. It's anecdotal evidence, but I loved during Memorial Day people 68 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,879 take snapshots of the supermarket and all the beer was gone, but all the 69 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,560 bud Light was still there on the shelves, you know. And then also 70 00:05:15,639 --> 00:05:18,560 Target which I don't know how that boycott's working, but from what I've seen, 71 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:23,560 I think it's doing pretty well. Also, these are I think, 72 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,480 in my lifetime, the most successful conservative economic boycotts that have ever existed. 73 00:05:28,519 --> 00:05:32,079 Like I can't even remember another boycott my entire life that conservatives have engaged in 74 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,480 that have actually worked. Do you agree with that? I'm not sure. 75 00:05:36,519 --> 00:05:39,519 I mean, I'd like to think about it a little bit before I think 76 00:05:39,519 --> 00:05:45,800 about whether other there are other boycott examples that have worked. What's fascinating to 77 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,079 me is this is completely organic. You have on the left, this very 78 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:58,240 complicated architecture, well funded, well organized, to enforce leftist dogma, you 79 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,639 know, by pressuring corporation, and they really pick a target and they attack 80 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,000 them. You know, you look at what's happened with Fox News, where 81 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,759 every powerful billionaire on the left has funded an effort to keep advertisers away from 82 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:17,240 the top rated cable news network. That's you know, it's a smart play 83 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,879 for political activists on the left and on the right. Like there's no organization 84 00:06:20,959 --> 00:06:27,560 really of any kind these The bud light thing is completely organic. The target 85 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:33,120 thing is also completely organic. It's just people having had enough of leftist politics 86 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,040 shoved down their throat by corporations and apparently like they were willing to sort of 87 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:43,800 take it, take it, take it. And finally the I guess the 88 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,519 part where they are arming children is the one where some people finally found a 89 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:54,720 backbone. Yeah, so you just think, you see, I view it 90 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:58,240 more as less of a political kind of caught and more of a normy, 91 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,639 a normal person revolt against sort of the wackiness that it's gotten gotten to a 92 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:08,120 point where it was just sort of this cultural bias and political bias that was 93 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,680 always being you know, being thrown at you in little pieces. But then 94 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,399 BLM happened. I think that that was sort of the first thing that really 95 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:20,560 got people mad about, you know, the the role corporations playing that kind 96 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:26,879 of cultural revolution basically, and now this is just the manifestation of that anger. 97 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,319 Not that this doesn't matter, but it's just another thing that finally brought 98 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:32,639 them over the top. I just wonder, like, what is the staying 99 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:38,800 power. Is it going to continue with other corporations or is it going to 100 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:42,439 be diluted because there's just going to be too many people to try to boycott. 101 00:07:42,519 --> 00:07:46,199 It's very difficult in your in your life to avoid things. Might be 102 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:51,839 might be easy to avoid a beer, but you can't really avoid like NBC 103 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,879 corporation, or you can, but it's much harder right when you have avoids. 104 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:00,759 Pick your targets very carefully. I think the thing about the bud Light 105 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,879 one is it's just fun. It is fun to participate in this boycott. 106 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:09,040 It's fun to tease people about drinking bud Light. It's it's the type of 107 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,279 boycott that works because there are so many other beer options of the same variety 108 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:18,199 that you can go to, and it's just become like a cultural moment that 109 00:08:18,439 --> 00:08:24,199 is, as you point out, much beyond typical political tribes. Beyond that, 110 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,279 you start getting into pretty shaky territory. I mean, even like the 111 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:35,399 target thing is a little bit harder to communicate and participate in even though a 112 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,080 lot of people are and I mean targets really hurting by people declining to shop 113 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:46,399 there because of how they are trying to harm children with their transactivism and supporting 114 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,720 groups that cut off healthy body parts of children and permanently sterilize them. Like, 115 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:54,440 these are really bad things for people who know it, but it's a 116 00:08:54,440 --> 00:09:00,240 little harder to get into the cultural understanding. And then when you get like 117 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,840 beyond there, it'll I think it'll just depend on what people are doing. 118 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,080 I think, you know, the Dodgers situation is very interesting because I don't 119 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,440 think people want to boycott the Dodgers. I don't think people want to stop 120 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:15,399 watching baseball. I mean I did a couple of years ago, and it 121 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,960 was for political reasons when Major League Baseball decided to attack the integrity of our 122 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,440 US election system. For me, it was just like, I can't participate 123 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,080 in supporting a group that's actively trying to harm the country in such a horrible 124 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,360 way. That bowed down to Joe Biden when he said, I'm calling for 125 00:09:35,399 --> 00:09:43,840 people to do an economic boycott of a democratically like governed state because I don't 126 00:09:43,919 --> 00:09:50,279 like that they are working to secure their elections and Major League Baseball bowed down 127 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:54,279 and said, sir, yes, sir, we will join with you in 128 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,159 doing a boycott of you know, we're going to boycott this state. We're 129 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,159 going to attack democracy, We're going to attack elections. Like I was like, 130 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,200 I can't, I cannot participate anymore. But a lot of people were 131 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:11,960 fine with that. But when the Dodgers decided to honor an anti Christian hate 132 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:18,120 group that is mostly known for blaspheming God, you know, that's that's too 133 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:20,440 far for a lot of people. Well hold on, Molly, hold on, 134 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,039 Molly. They are going to have a Christian night as well, So 135 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:30,240 they've balanced that out right, So a little blasphemy and a little God. 136 00:10:31,159 --> 00:10:35,159 Yeah, I saw that. Clayton Kirkshaw was saying, oh yeah, okay, 137 00:10:35,159 --> 00:10:39,080 so we're honoring a group that blasphemes our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 138 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:45,240 But counterpoint, a month later, we're going to invite Christians to spend money 139 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,600 at the park. So it kind of balances out. And it's like, 140 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:52,559 well, that's not how it works. If I can have a like a 141 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:56,279 point the Ten Commandments, you know that should have no other gods before me? 142 00:10:56,159 --> 00:11:01,039 Is is many meanings. But one of the things is like not to 143 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:07,080 not to put God on the altar with other gods or other you know, 144 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:11,600 with false gods. And this idea that you can sort of clean off the 145 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:18,039 blasphemy of God by also saying that you honor him is not It doesn't match 146 00:11:18,039 --> 00:11:22,159 with the traditional understanding of the first commandment. Well, I quickly want to 147 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,440 mention that there are over I think nine hundred and forty something like that players 148 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:33,960 on active rosters in Major League Baseball, and four of them or basically four 149 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,480 but one has now apologized. So three of them, only three of nine 150 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,360 hundred. These are players who make the sign of the Cross, they look 151 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,639 up to God, they thank God all the time. Only three have spoken 152 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,840 up. One of them, as you say, is Clayton k Kershaw, 153 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:52,440 who almost didn't speak up. It's just such a tepid ginger or statement. 154 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:56,080 But two of them were and I just want to mention did a good job. 155 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:01,720 I think we're Trevor Williams with the Nationals and and Blake Trennan, I 156 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,519 think is how you pronounce it with the Dodgers. I mean they did, 157 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:09,320 you know, they were just clear cut statements about how one of them was 158 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,240 to Catholics, and one of them was to Christians overall. So you have 159 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:18,679 to give those people props because as you saw, Anthony Bass a Place for 160 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:26,159 Toronto apologized. He just retweeted, he retweeted some pro boycott message on Instagram, 161 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,720 and he, oh lord, he had he had gave this long apology 162 00:12:30,759 --> 00:12:37,240 where he promised to educate himself, which is always a euphemism for ideological an 163 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:43,200 ideological transformation, and he begged for forgiveness basically. And the coach there, 164 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:46,440 John Schneider, I think his name is, promised that it was not over, 165 00:12:46,519 --> 00:12:50,159 that his education would continue. Can you imagine what is it the business 166 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:54,519 of the coach that the player has an opinion, a political opinion he doesn't 167 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,039 like. It is just mind boggling to me, and actually even worse in 168 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,720 this case, it was his religious opinion. He retweeted someone saying that Christians 169 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:09,480 should boycott groups that you know are supporting the mutilation of children. I mean, 170 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:15,320 this is a religious viewpoint that Christians have had a remarkable consistency with opposition 171 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,679 to child sacrifice or child mutilation, you know, to serve pagan gods. 172 00:13:20,159 --> 00:13:22,799 And it was very sad to see how he bowed down, you know, 173 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:28,440 repented of his sin against paganism, and it was like, please forgive me. 174 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:35,720 I will always, you know, bow down to the altar of the 175 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:39,399 sexual perversion, and I will never speak out on behalf of my faith ever 176 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,559 again, and I will educate myself. I mean, it was really awful 177 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,919 to see, particularly in comparison to what the two men you mentioned did, 178 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,000 which was a much better statement explaining their religious views, why they're important, 179 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:56,639 and how they can't be compromised. Well, he retweeted something that where they 180 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:01,799 it was a an activist, some sort of Christian actists. I don't exactly 181 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,080 know who he is, but he mentioned, you know, he mentioned the 182 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,159 word satanists, that these people were promoting something that was Satanist, and everyone 183 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,879 got like all these I saw all these comps of people all upset about calling 184 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,759 gay people's satanists. He was referring to the Target designer who called himself a 185 00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:20,879 Satanist. I believe have you have you seen that it was a designer and 186 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,360 Target, Yes, it's almost it does almost sound like too crazy to believe. 187 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:30,799 But one of the designers that Target used to push their trans transing of 188 00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:37,639 children message is someone who is very open about his support of Satan. I'm 189 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:41,799 not surprised by it as a religious on the it's a bit on the nose. 190 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,639 Yeah, I mean it's like, it's almost not it's almost part. 191 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:50,600 These corporations are allowed to work with avowed Satanist Satanists on the mutilation of children 192 00:14:50,679 --> 00:14:54,120 and then if you notice it, you have to do a struggle session and 193 00:14:54,240 --> 00:15:01,799 repent of your sin to the pagan gods. The Watchdot on Wall Street podcast 194 00:15:01,799 --> 00:15:05,799 with Chris Markowski. 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The Dodgers are going to honor a group that 203 00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:43,279 dressing a non drag and give out condoms and do much worse things than that, 204 00:15:43,399 --> 00:15:48,000 just gross things. But yet the person who's an orthodox Christian has to 205 00:15:48,039 --> 00:15:52,240 beg for forgiveness to continue to play in the league. It is something is 206 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,080 really wrong. And I always say this, I'm not even religious, i 207 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,679 am not a Christian, And to me, the whole world is upside down 208 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:02,919 right now. It doesn't make any sense. And one quick thing, even 209 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,120 if you believe in free speech, you believe in free expression, a person 210 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:08,720 should be able to have an opinion without being worried about their job, without 211 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:11,320 having to apologize to everyone. It's not like he came out as a neo 212 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,840 Nazi or something. You know, this is a completely normal position that many 213 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:21,960 people in this country have, probably around half the country or more. If 214 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:25,039 the new yeah, they knew what was going on. I do think part 215 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,919 of the problem is that a lot of people are too cowardly or conflict of 216 00:16:32,039 --> 00:16:36,240 verse to stand up for their views. Like with the number of Christians playing 217 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:45,399 in Major League Baseball, they should all say we are extremely concerned by the 218 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,639 attacks on our religious beliefs. Seems like you're creating a hostile workplace. We 219 00:16:49,679 --> 00:16:52,399 need this to stop. We're not going to show up to work that day 220 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,200 as a boycott of what you're doing to us. And you do that, 221 00:16:56,279 --> 00:16:57,399 and all of a sudden, you're going to have people, you know, 222 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,840 back off on some of this politicization of sports. Well, I think if 223 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,799 if people, normal people would regularly listen. I've said this often. You 224 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:10,400 and I get to say whatever we want. In fact, we're paid to 225 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,359 say things that probably would upset a lot of people. But you know, 226 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,359 I understand why someone who works at a company, in a normal job doesn't 227 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,799 want to speak up and risk their livelihood and their insurance in their you know, 228 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:25,559 a career to have an opinion that's going to get them fired or you 229 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:30,599 know, ostracized or whatever. But baseball players Ershaw I looked it up and 230 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:36,000 his career has made three hundred and fifty million dollars playing baseball. If he 231 00:17:36,039 --> 00:17:38,799 can't stand up, if these guys can't come together and even a group and 232 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,240 stand up, then what are the chances that normal people are going to do 233 00:17:42,279 --> 00:17:48,039 it. It's it's you know, they are just complete cowards. So Tucker 234 00:17:48,079 --> 00:17:52,559 Carlson gave a speech at the Heritage Foundation's fifty at the anniversary whenever. That 235 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,039 was back in April, I think, And one of the things he was 236 00:17:56,079 --> 00:18:03,319 saying was that he was just completely blown away by those brave people who stand 237 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,119 up to woke mobs, and how it's never who you think it's going to 238 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,839 be, and how sometimes it's people who really have a lot to lose. 239 00:18:11,799 --> 00:18:15,000 And he was making the point he's paid to express his opinion, you know, 240 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:18,640 and being a TV host is very easy. I don't think he had 241 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,440 any idea what was about to happen there, and so it made a sort 242 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,319 of poignant, you know, what he was saying. But I am always 243 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:33,200 inspired by people who do stand up to mobs when they face great persecution for 244 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:37,839 doing so, and at the same time also kind of disappointed it how few 245 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,920 people are willing to withstand the pressure. Like you think about the early history 246 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,880 of the Christian Church, it's just it's just like leader after leader getting killed 247 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,920 for their viewpoint. And in America, a lot of Christians face, you 248 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,680 know, persecution, they face attacks on their faith in the in their workplace. 249 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,680 It's very common now. But I think it would be good to see 250 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,759 a little bit more standing up against it, and it's very easy to say 251 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:06,880 this, much harder to do it. And I'm sorry I'm speaking to myself 252 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,200 as much as I'm speaking to anyone else here, but I think we should 253 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:15,920 think about how we also serve fellow Christians. And sorry not you, but 254 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,319 again, Christians should think about their fellow Christians and how they can support them 255 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,160 by standing up against some of this stuff. Even if they're like scared to 256 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,079 do it for themselves, they should care enough about their neighbor to stand up 257 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:32,920 against it. I mean, for me, this began with when I met 258 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,440 Jack Phillips and I wrote about him for instance, like that was that's a 259 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,440 tough thing. He was basically alone at the time standing up to fascists in 260 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,279 Colorado and still trying to stand up to them. But yeah, I mean, 261 00:19:47,559 --> 00:19:48,480 you need more and more people to do it. And if a guy 262 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:52,160 who makes three hundred and fifty mill can't do it, I don't know how 263 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,519 a person is making fifty k trying to get his kids through school is going 264 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:56,920 to be able, you know, going to be able to do it hopeful, 265 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:02,440 you know. But any the way, my my parents stopped by Masterpiece 266 00:20:02,759 --> 00:20:07,240 cake Shop last week. They were in the area because one of our friends 267 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:08,720 died and they were at a funeral. They're there and they were very sad 268 00:20:08,759 --> 00:20:14,039 because Jack wasn't in there, but they bought cakes or pastries or something. 269 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:18,039 In any case, it is almost a miracle that that place is still open, 270 00:20:18,279 --> 00:20:21,680 right, Like, after all it's gone through, after all the people 271 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,599 who've attacked it and boycotted and protested in front of it, that it's still 272 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,119 around him. It's it's heartening to know that that that they're still there. 273 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,480 It does and you brought this up, but it does remind me a little 274 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,480 of the people who have stood up to Sandy Kofa's not pitching on your kipper. 275 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:38,880 I don't know what year that was. I think in maybe sixty or 276 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:44,319 something like that. It's just a famous moment. But I don't know, 277 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,960 you know, he is he was held up. I wonder at the time. 278 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,079 I don't know enough about that incident. Do you think at the time 279 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:55,039 people were like, you know, yelling at him and you know, saying 280 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:56,640 he'd let the team down, or do you think that, Oh, yeah, 281 00:20:57,039 --> 00:21:00,200 so I was. I was reading up a little bit on it. 282 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,880 I didn't realize that. So you know, he famously is not pitching game 283 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,519 one of the World Series because it falls on Yom Kapoor and Don Drysdale, 284 00:21:08,519 --> 00:21:14,559 who's another Hall of Fame pitcher, is the guy who takes the mound and 285 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:22,160 he absolutely gets hammered. And afterwards he told the manager Walter Alston, I 286 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,400 bet you wish I was Jewish as well. And he was a great pitcher 287 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,400 himself, you know so. But Colfax was one of many Jewish players who 288 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,880 declined to play on religious holy days. I think, is that right? 289 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,039 I think there were other instances. I don't remember the people, but you 290 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:41,799 know there were some big Jewish you know, famous Jewish players in those days. 291 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,400 Yeah. Yeah, And he'd previously asked for, you know, a 292 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:51,519 different spot on the rotation for other holy days, and it really was something 293 00:21:51,559 --> 00:21:55,839 that people found kind of surprising and on spiring. And I was tweeting about 294 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,680 it last night and some people said I was a kid when that happened, 295 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,240 and I was so angry, and I've grown up to realize, like, 296 00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:06,400 this man is really to be honored for what he was willing to do for 297 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,720 his faith. Yeah. I mean, Kipper is not just a high, 298 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:15,599 you know, it is the holiday in Jewish religion. It's more important than 299 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,839 Sabbath, which you know, it is just the most important day. So 300 00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:23,519 but you know, I don't know. Sometimes I'm like, he could just 301 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:26,000 pitch another day in the rotation. It's not like, you know, I 302 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:29,559 mean, that's as we did, but where are you pitching? The rotation 303 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,079 really is important. And by the way, this reminds me that I got 304 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,400 to go to see Game one of the two thousand and six World Series and 305 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,799 it was in Detroit, and I went with two friends. I was a 306 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:47,559 Cardinals fan at that time before I stopped being a major League Baseball fan, 307 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,680 and so Detroit was so excited about being in the series and they were widely 308 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:59,759 expected to win this game and they did not, and the Cardinals took Game 309 00:22:59,839 --> 00:23:03,680 one. And there's this great picture that was in the Detroit News of me 310 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,240 being the only person cheering in a sea of Tigers fans and it was It's 311 00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:12,359 one of my favorite pictures. Right. That had nothing to do with anything. 312 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,839 Oh, it was justin Verlander was pitching and he was expected to win, 313 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,039 and I think and he did not. Yeah, that's a good story. 314 00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:22,880 My last thing on this is just that I'm a Yankees fan, but 315 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,799 I'm Also, let's say a New York big hockey fan, it would be 316 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,240 very difficult. I think it would be very difficult for me not to watch 317 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,000 something that I've enjoyed since I'm a kid that I'm so invested in. They'd 318 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,200 have to do a lot. I'm just being honest. They'd have to do 319 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:41,599 a lot for me to stop watching. Well, do you remember what a 320 00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:44,920 big fan of baseball it used to be? Okay, I mean it was 321 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,279 a lot to give up, and it took. It sort of happened over 322 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:51,680 a course of years. Like the first thing that was a problem is that 323 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,799 they embraced the COVID insanity and I didn't like that, but I kind of 324 00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:59,079 understood that the whole world was crazy at that time. Then when they came 325 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,200 back even some of my favorite players were bowing down to the BLM, you 326 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,200 know, extremism that was I did not like that, and I sent a 327 00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:10,839 note saying, like, if any more of this happens, like I'm going 328 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,119 to have to check out. So I sort of it. It happened in 329 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,960 stages, and then that next year was when they bowed down to Joe Biden 330 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,359 to boycott the state of Georgia for passing like frankly fairly weak election laws, 331 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,880 like they should have been much stronger, and even that was too much and 332 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,839 then and so so at that point I was like, I just can't in 333 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,359 good conscience do it. I wouldn't say. One of the thing though, 334 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,680 about the whole topic of people standing up against this, which is I love 335 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,480 to read Voslavhavel's Power of the Powerless essay and one of the things he talks 336 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:48,279 about so that's the one where he's talking about how conformist systems operate through pressure 337 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,519 from above and below and uses the example of you know, the workers of 338 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,920 the world unite signs that you see everywhere in communist systems, and he's like, 339 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,359 this, this happens with a combination of pressure from above, like you 340 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,240 want to show the people above you that you're no threat to their power, 341 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,480 and also from the people below you want to work with them, and you 342 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:08,599 want them to know that they are safe to work with you, and so 343 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:14,960 it just produces this elaborate conformity and to fight against it. It's very hard 344 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,599 in a totalitarian or post totalitarian system to fight against it. And one of 345 00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:25,240 the things he talks about is the power of a dissident who just, you 346 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,839 know, sort of emperor has no clothes kind of approaches it, and it 347 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,640 makes people realize that they have power and that they could avoid being part of 348 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,640 this system. And so even if it's not that many people who are standing 349 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:47,720 up against these anti Christian mobs, even just one doing it is very powerful. 350 00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:51,559 And I read the notes from those players to my children last night just 351 00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:55,240 so they could kind of think about how when they are faced with pressures to 352 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,279 conform to belief systems that are contrary to what we believe, you know, 353 00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:04,039 how they will how they will handle That also reminds me a bit of George 354 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,720 Orwell's introduction to Animal Farm that actually wasn't published with the original version, but 355 00:26:08,839 --> 00:26:15,240 later, where he talks about censorship in society that is conducted by people, 356 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,759 incorporations, and just pressure rather than the government coming in. That's what this 357 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,720 is. It's even more dangerous because people do it to themselves. Like I 358 00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:30,000 get that the government doesn't make Anthony or what's his name bass apologize, but 359 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,920 the societal pressure does. And if no one cares about the importance of free 360 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,599 expression anymore, then we don't need the government to ban it. It's we 361 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,119 just have people doing it, and that's in the end just as bad. 362 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:48,519 And that's what's happening in society. Yeah, we have these great laws protecting 363 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,240 free expression, and they really are wonderful, but they mean absolutely nothing without 364 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,920 a culture that supports those laws. And we are beginning to witness what it's 365 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,400 like to have laws on the books that are not embraced by the culture, 366 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,279 and how damaging it is to the underlying rights themselves. That's a good point. 367 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:15,799 Let's talk for a moment about the Republican primaries, if because we must. 368 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,160 Yeah, I was thinking about how it's like a year and a half 369 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:25,599 until people start voting, and I am already so annoyed by everyone, you 370 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,680 know, the candidates, their supporters. This is going to be a long, 371 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:37,519 long primary, it is. Do you think anyone is really in contention 372 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:41,680 other than than the Santis and Trump? I don't. I mean I think 373 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,119 they're you know, there's always like what if they both get hit by a 374 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,079 bus kind of approach, Or you're also going for other things, like you're 375 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,559 trying to make money, or you think you could be a VP contender, 376 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,319 or you want a cabinet position, you know, for whoever might win. 377 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,799 There are other reasons why you might engage in or even just you know, 378 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:03,960 I always think of the Rand Paul method of I don't think he had a 379 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:07,519 super great shot at winning the Republican nomination, but he knew that entering that 380 00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:14,880 presidential contest, which I say, Rand Paul, I'm run Paul hum that 381 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:19,440 entering that contest is a good way to have some really important debates about foreign 382 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:25,039 policy or other issues. So there it's okay. I'm one people who does 383 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,960 not mind a large field. I thought that in twenty sixteen it helped the 384 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,039 party really litigate or not litigate, you know, I mean like debate some 385 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,039 issues. And likewise, in twenty twenty, a large field for Democrats seem 386 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:45,400 to serve them well. But I do remember how annoying twenty sixteen was, 387 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:51,680 where people got so emotional and so invested. But this has been already that 388 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,960 way pretty I mean, when you when you have candidates that are indistinguishable from 389 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,839 each other in many ways, like I think Rubio and Crews were in some 390 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,440 way. I know, their personalities are different, and then it just becomes 391 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,519 this ego trip for them. I think that becomes problematic if you want real 392 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,839 two competing voices, and obviously I didn't want Trump to win that, and 393 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,759 so that's maybe why I'm saying that I don't think you'll have that happen again. 394 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:18,960 But I just want to quickly say Chris Christie is joining the race. 395 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:22,839 I read this morning. I think his appetite for power is a little bigger 396 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:27,200 than talent. Yeah, it is funny because he's always playing the tough guy. 397 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,559 But whatever you think of Trump, he was the first one to surrender, 398 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:34,880 and his surrender was complete, like he was behind Trump. It's like 399 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,079 just completely you know, broken down, and he would have been a good 400 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:45,440 like Secretary of Education. Maybe I think it's a good spot for him maybe 401 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:51,000 or something like that, finding unions, finding teachers unions. But I would 402 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:56,000 have came to them too. So I last week I said something. I'm 403 00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:00,240 in this position where I like both Trump and to say I think they both 404 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:06,440 have admirable qualities or great policy positions. I'm not saying either one is perfect. 405 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,799 One in particular is quite a lot to deal with. But I had 406 00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:18,799 said something nice about Ronda Santis on Fox, and you would not believe how 407 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:25,279 much that angered the Trump fans. And then last night I saw that okay. 408 00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:30,079 So Ronda Santis has officially entered the race. He's in Iowa, and 409 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:36,160 the night that he entered the race, he did a little press pressor with 410 00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:40,079 some of us and it was really interesting to me. Philip Wegman asked him 411 00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:41,640 a question about sort of taking the fight to Trump, and he's like, 412 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,759 oh, yeah, I'm doing it, and I was like, huh, 413 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:47,240 that's an interesting strategy. And he's continued with that. You know, he 414 00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:52,079 said he's Trump is bad on the border and bad on spending, and you 415 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:56,799 know, he's made some digs previously, like when Alvin Bragg was preparing to 416 00:30:56,839 --> 00:31:00,839 politically indict Trump, he said something like, now, I don't know anything 417 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:07,319 about sexual indiscretions and how they affect your life, but I don't think it's 418 00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:10,799 great that Bragg is doing this. And a lot of people are like, 419 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,799 well, that was kind of a weird personal petty snipe. I want to 420 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:19,519 get to what Trump's doing to DeSantis here in a second, because it's reprehensible. 421 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:27,759 But last night in Iowa, Dave Weigel reports that all the questions from 422 00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:33,640 reporters were about Trump and that he was eager to attack Trump everywhere. And 423 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,599 so I say, as someone who likes Rhonda Santis, that I don't think 424 00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:41,000 this strategy is great, Like I think it's great for winning the Twitter hive 425 00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:45,559 mind, but that if you want to win like actual primaries, you should 426 00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:51,720 be attacking basically the Republican establishment more than you're attacking Donald Trump. And everybody 427 00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:53,519 was like, oh my gosh, how can you say that Trump has spent 428 00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:56,759 the last six months attacking to Santis. I agree, and I'm not saying 429 00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:04,000 it's unfair for De Santists to fight back or that I have any philosophical problem 430 00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:10,480 with him fighting back. Trump thinks that DeSantis even running is a horrific betrayal. 431 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,920 He's been very petty and personal in his attacks on De Santis. He's 432 00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:22,480 spent millions of dollars to harm his reputation among conservatives. Like, it's fair 433 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:27,519 to fight back, but the problem is that it kind of feeds into this 434 00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:35,160 idea that DeSantis is just anti Trump as opposed to fighting on behalf of Trump 435 00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:38,359 voters to get what they want done. So I'm just like offering this, 436 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,119 like here's my thought on it, and oh my goodness, the DeSantis fans 437 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:49,160 were like, you are paid money to lie on behalf of the Orange Man, 438 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,039 and I'm like, oh my gosh, if you can't take like constructive 439 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,039 criticism, I'm not even saying you have to agree with it by any stretch, 440 00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:06,079 but like, calm down, it's May twenty three. I don't. 441 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:13,000 I just want to or say something about the back and forth between those two. 442 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:16,400 I think that DeSantis will lose out if he tries to engage in the 443 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,039 same kind of personal digs or nicknames or whatever. Trump is just better at 444 00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:22,440 it, and fighting him on that level, you're never going to win. 445 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:27,559 They try to remember Rubio trying and it was just a disaster. I think 446 00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:31,759 he can score some points when he pushes back on like when Trump says you're 447 00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:35,680 worst than Cuomo, Florida was one of the worst states during COVID. I 448 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,759 think he has a good case to make that Trump leaned way too heavily on 449 00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:42,519 Fauci and that he was one of the first governors to say we're not going 450 00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:45,119 to do it that way. I think that actually is something that a lot 451 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,799 of that's a that's actually policy, it's something that people can really latch onto. 452 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,599 So I think for him, and I'm no expert on this, because 453 00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:58,960 again, no one would elect me for anything, taking the digs and then 454 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,960 come back with something more solid and policy wise. Is I think going to 455 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,360 be could be successful for him if you know what's Yeah. Absolutely so. 456 00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:14,639 One of the things that I disliked the most about Trump's handling of COVID was 457 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:19,039 when he actually went after Governor Kemp of Georgia for opening up. He was 458 00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:22,360 like, I think this is too soon. I was like, what are 459 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,840 you doing? All of your press conferences have been about how you don't want 460 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,840 to shut down the economy and how we have to get everything back and running 461 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,239 as quickly as possible, and then when someone finally does it, Kemp, 462 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:37,000 he goes after Kemp like it really bothered me. But so I think there 463 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:40,199 is totally room for criticism, although I think De Santis is a bit misguided 464 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:44,840 in how much appetite there is for that. Now. I am one of 465 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:51,400 these crazy anti COVID response piece people myself, like, I am totally appalled 466 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,840 at what this country did enough to know that that group of people isn't It's 467 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,239 a loud and powerful group, but it's not like as many people as possible, 468 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,599 and making Trump seem reasonable in his COVID response which is kind of what 469 00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:07,760 happens when you're over there. I don't know, making him seem reasonable to 470 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,639 the people who in twenty twenty we're thinking he wasn't doing enough. You know, 471 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:20,639 it's just not I'm not sure the strategy is as good as the rabid 472 00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:23,159 people who think like I do. I think it is that could. You 473 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,519 might be right in that regard, especially in a general but I'm not sure 474 00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:30,920 about primaries. There's a lot of crazy people voting primaries, you know, 475 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,519 But I don't know. I okay, for me, I'm like you. 476 00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:36,519 I think that that was a horrible moment in American history, and it's worth 477 00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:38,719 pushing back on the other issues. I think that people are just kind of 478 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:45,880 like pretending not to remember what would have actually happened had Trump pushed the envelope 479 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,840 any outer edge of the envelope anymore than he already did. Like he absolutely 480 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:57,239 would have been impeached a second time if he had pushed it more. Like 481 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,639 you had no buddy supporting his view in DC. They were all a bunch 482 00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:05,880 of scarity cats who were was an m page twice though, you mean I'm 483 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,400 saying twice before the third time. There's like a bit of revisionist history, 484 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:16,719 or even forgetting that. For all of his faults in how much he listened 485 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,480 to Fauci and other stuff like that, he did work pretty hard to preserve 486 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,679 states rights to reopen when there was a lot of pressure to do sort of 487 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:30,239 national level shutdowns. They gave people like Christy Nome and bron De Santis and 488 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:37,960 Brian Kemp the ground from which to push back against some of the insanity. 489 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:42,199 But obviously Trump's saying that New York handle things better than Florida is just a 490 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,960 lie. It's wrong. It absolutely needs pushback. I can understand what round 491 00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:50,800 Santis is like, listen, buddy, you can shove that up your piehole. 492 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,320 I get it. But when you don't recognize what was done to Trump 493 00:36:54,519 --> 00:37:02,119 through COVID or two Republican chances for winning re election, it makes voters think 494 00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:05,639 that you're sort of part of the cabal that was doing that, or like 495 00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:10,800 he's trying to run to the right of Trump, which is not the craziest 496 00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:15,880 idea for winning a primary. But he's kind of running on issues that are 497 00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:22,920 twenty fifteen or prior issues for the most part, like the border or spending. 498 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,039 But he's not doing it when it comes to things like fighting the military 499 00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:31,679 industrial complexes, you know, plan for World War three, anything that would 500 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:38,719 require a little more bravery, or taking on the Republican establishment and I and 501 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:44,119 so it's my it's just my view that this is why could explain why he's 502 00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:45,559 not taking off. But maybe, you know, maybe everything will work out 503 00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:50,000 fine for them. And I just suspect he's not comfortable on foreign policy yet. 504 00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:52,800 It's not something he's you know, I know he was in the military, 505 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,199 and know he was in Congress, but I just it's not in his 506 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,199 wheelhouse really yet right now, or maybe I never will be. I don't 507 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,360 know. So he had that really the excellent statement he gave to Tucker Carlson 508 00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:06,960 about the Ukraine War. It was so good that the Wall Street Journal and 509 00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:09,800 New York Post like immediately and all the neo cons at AI were like, 510 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,719 buddy, get it together and repent of this. And the sad thing is 511 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,119 like within two days he did. He was like, I didn't mean that, 512 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,760 you know, And you're not going to really be able to take on 513 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:27,679 these powerful forces in office if you can't take them on in the campaign. 514 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,960 But maybe he was just doing that for strategic reasons like, you know, 515 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:36,000 Trump all the time would say something really correct, he would get attacked for 516 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:37,960 it, and then he'd be like, would if I gave you John Bolton 517 00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:43,280 as National security? You know, he would totally like do and say things 518 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,960 to kind of live to fight another day. So I don't think I'm not 519 00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:51,159 holding the scientists to a different standard than Trump on this. But the other 520 00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:55,199 issue that he could truly run to the right of Trump on and that would 521 00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:01,159 make Republican voters feel like he was defending them, I think would be fighting 522 00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:06,920 the weaponization of government and the use of law enforcement to put political opponents in 523 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,239 prison. I have talked with so many people who say that when he did 524 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,840 that little dig at Trump when Alvin Bragg was going after him, that that 525 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:21,119 really bothered them. I think if there's a way to just not take the 526 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:25,960 bait about how awful and mean Trump is being to him and really show that 527 00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:30,880 he's that he gets the seriousness of the weaponization problem, and I mean I 528 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,440 really think he does. I mean his words on this are good, but 529 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,760 you also have to convey it in terms of aligning yourself with the with the 530 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,440 Trump voter, I think, and people go, well, he's going to 531 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,000 win the nomination without the Trump voter. It's like it's he's literally got to 532 00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:53,320 pull a certain percentage of them, right, Yeah, of course it's going 533 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,800 to use the Trump vote. My view of DeSantis is probably a little off 534 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,280 from other people, as my view is that is naturally clination is far more 535 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:07,239 traditionally conservative of the last thirty years, and people believe so it's difficult for 536 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,519 him to say stuff like military military industrial complex, you know what I mean, 537 00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:15,199 because I don't believe he's actually there. I think he probably is more 538 00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:20,440 concerned about like the free markets and stuff like that than than people. This 539 00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:22,760 is just my I don't follow him on a daily basis, just my sort 540 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,159 of conception of how he is. You know, he's much more DC centric 541 00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:30,400 than people think. His time in Congress, he was just voted with the 542 00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:34,239 usual on the usual conservative stuff. That doesn't mean he hasn't changed his mind 543 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,280 about certain things, and he doesn't like. He fought Disney in a way 544 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,239 that I don't know most governors would have done in Florida, not even a 545 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,239 you know, I just think that he really stood up to them, and 546 00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:46,719 I don't actually agree with that as much. I'm not as like excited about 547 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,559 that as other people, but I get it. I just want to say, 548 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,119 just to go way back to something you said, I did go back 549 00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:57,559 and read my columns at the time when COVID was going down and Trump was 550 00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,039 being attacked for letting states do what they wanted, like he was constantly being 551 00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,880 attacked. But it wasn't even like he's letting states do they It's just the 552 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,519 Constitution. Yeah, the states are allowed to do what they want to do. 553 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,320 And that would have been the best thing for Trump to really stress. 554 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,360 I know he did occasionally, but he should have said, listen, if 555 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,639 Florida thinks this is right for them, that's what they should do. And 556 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:21,039 later he was praising Florida constantly as the best state. And I think De 557 00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,679 Santa's crack about him moving down to Florida is a pretty good one. I 558 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,440 mean, if Florida's are terrible, why do you live there? Why'd you 559 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,440 leave New York it's better? Yeah, the battle for the Republican nomination is 560 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,800 a battle for the Republican Party, and you have a very powerful establishment that 561 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,639 would very much like those people, those voters, to sort of be managed 562 00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:46,199 and controlled and have their heads padded and then not really cause a problem. 563 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:52,400 And base voters are primary voters for the most part. And I think Desanti's 564 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,039 has some good things going in terms of his field operation. He has some 565 00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:01,159 excellent people working for him. But he just in my view, should fight 566 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:07,760 the establishment far, far, far more than he's attacking Trump. And even 567 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,599 though there are another crazy molly, how about fighting you know Democrats? Well, 568 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,480 yes, I think that's something that you know, all of the Republican 569 00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:22,079 candidates are doing, which is good, but picking who your nominee is going 570 00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:27,679 to be to take that fight, Like a lot of base voters recognize that 571 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,800 they have a problem in their own party as well, Like they think their 572 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,239 own party is helping Democrats achieve their victories, so they want to know that 573 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:40,360 someone is willing to take on that powerful cabal of people. So people are 574 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,679 free to take this for what it's worth and maybe everything's going to be fine. 575 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,960 But oh, the other thing is, like the really structural disadvantage that 576 00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:53,119 des Sanders has to deal with is that Trump is like the best and worst 577 00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:58,000 of an incumbent president, like he lost last time. But a lot of 578 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,079 Republican voters, like the vast majority, were Publican voters think he unfairly lost. 579 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:08,880 That the media and big tech and COVID all and manipulation of COVID protocols, 580 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:15,159 all these things were exploited to to make this election victory of Biden's fundamentally 581 00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:20,039 unfair. So he's kind of like not in office, but it's like he 582 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:25,440 was. And so just by virtue of taking on the quasi incumbent, it's 583 00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:30,320 viewed as disloyal by a lot of Republican voters, and it's viewed as just 584 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,679 becoming part of the establishment attack on Trump. You know, like he had 585 00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:38,039 to deal with the FBI running a soft coup. He's had to deal with, 586 00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:42,880 you know, a resistance within his own bureaucracy, a resistance within the 587 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,639 Republican establishment. And now when you know the people think he should be vindicated 588 00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:52,360 for all that he had to go through, you have this, you know 589 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,320 this thing happening too. It's a very different. I will acknowledge it's an 590 00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:04,239 extremely difficult road for descantists to take to just challenge him period. But I 591 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,039 think this is why it's not taking off as much as the funding an organization 592 00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:13,679 would hope for. I have to say that I think the Alvin Bragg think 593 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,320 actually helped Trump sort of launch his campaign in a way, you know, 594 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:22,400 it made it reminded everyone and the way you know, he was targeted by 595 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,320 all these organizations that people who view him as a victim. But anyway, 596 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,039 I also wanted to say that this campaign also reminds me then twenty sixteen, 597 00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,679 my main problem with Trump was that I didn't think he was conservative enough. 598 00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:36,440 And he keeps attacking De Santis. Tacked him on abortion, tacks him on 599 00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:37,559 you know, he's attacking him from the left. It's not as if De 600 00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:42,000 Santis is running to the right of him. The Santis has held these opinions 601 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,679 as governor from the beginning. It's that we have Donald Trump, who has 602 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,480 done more for the pro life move I don't care how how if you yell 603 00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:51,719 at me about this. He's done more for pro life movement than any president 604 00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:55,039 probably in history. Right. Yeah, I just wouldn't say. I get 605 00:44:55,119 --> 00:45:00,119 why Trump is doing these attacks onto Santis, but they're just horrible for the 606 00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:06,880 conservative policy projects. Like DeSantis has done a good job of implementing conservative policy 607 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,239 at the state level, and you've got Trump just like attacking him left and 608 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,239 right for that conservative governance, like it makes sense to bring him down with 609 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:22,519 Republican primary voters, but it's very frustrating as someone who supports the policy. 610 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,920 I think Trump's just running for the general already. That's how he views this. 611 00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:30,800 He views DeSantis as something that's, you know, someone who's just bugging 612 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,920 him but not very you know, not a serious threat to his run. 613 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,639 And that's how he is viewing it. So maybe that's the right policy to 614 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,519 Maybe that's the right tactic. Last thing on this, I just want to 615 00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:45,519 say there was this Nate Silver tweet from maybe two weeks ago last week where 616 00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:49,239 he's like, I don't understand what's going on. All these never trumpers who 617 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,320 said that they want to get rid of Trump and get past Trump. They 618 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,760 seem angrier and they hate de Santis even more, you know, like why 619 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,599 are they against all Republicans? Now? I don't get it. And then 620 00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:00,000 I saw I think it was a David French piece where he's like, will 621 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:06,800 Ron de Santis destroy Conservatism? Answer? Yeah, he will. You know, 622 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,719 these people are the biggest listen, it's they. It doesn't matter who 623 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,360 Republicans run anymore, these people will will oppose them. If Mitt Romney wanted 624 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,440 they'd oppose him because they're Democrats now and they were Democrats then. For the 625 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,199 most part, they're social engineers and technocrats. They just like it when we 626 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,159 do it in a rock and they want to do it here at a slower 627 00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:31,639 pace. But they're no more conservative than the far populist who believes in big 628 00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:36,800 government is. You know, They're no more principled conservative than those people. 629 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,480 Anyway. I just wanted to make that statement, and you have nothing to 630 00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:45,159 say that because you agree with every word as usual I do. Actually, 631 00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:49,760 all right, let's talk about culture real quick. I have not done a 632 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,159 lot of it this weekend. I had. I watched a movie called Rolling 633 00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:59,039 Thunder from nineteen seventy seven with William Devane because Quentin Tarantino had it as one 634 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,119 of his favorite movies in his book, So I gave that of you. 635 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,599 And then I watched a comedy special, another comedy special by these comedian Tom 636 00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:07,679 Poppa, who I think you would like. I think it was called You're 637 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,119 Doing Okay or You're doing just fine, And it's a kind of heat. 638 00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:17,039 He has two daughters, and he talks about life as a dad and just 639 00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:22,519 telling people to calm down and enjoy life and enjoy all the little things. 640 00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:24,199 And he's very funny. And I think that was on Netflix. That's it 641 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:30,719 for me on that. Okay, I mentioned that we had these big festivities 642 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:37,079 with Pentecost and that took up most of my time. But I am continuing 643 00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:42,440 my journey through Scripture. It's awesome. I mean, I know I keep 644 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,719 saying this every week, but I don't remember where I was last week, 645 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,239 but I think I was in Joshua and I finished Joshua, and I finished 646 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:54,679 Judges and I finished Ruth and I'm like sixteen I'm right, I'm like sixteen 647 00:47:54,760 --> 00:48:00,079 chapters into First Samuel. We're right at the David versus Goliath. Samuel is 648 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:08,599 awesome, very fun read. Judges was fascinating, like really dark, but 649 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,000 fascinating. And one of my this is like such a stupid minor point, 650 00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:15,599 but one of the things was talking about like these different judges who were sent 651 00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:21,199 to rule and how you know, they would rule and then they would die 652 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,360 and then Israel would fall into apostasy. But there was this one guy, 653 00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:28,280 I think his name was a Bimelech or something. He was one of the 654 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,719 sons of Gideon. But he was kind of like an illegitimate son, but 655 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:37,119 he was tyrannical and he's like going to war against various Israelites and they all 656 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,360 this one group like takes refuge in a tower and he pursues them to the 657 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,599 tower, and then a woman takes a millstone and drops it on him and 658 00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:50,119 it cracks his skull, but it doesn't quite kill him yet. Like he's 659 00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:52,679 dying, and he says to the guy nearest to him, like, oh 660 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,199 my gosh, please kill me with your swords so that it won't be written 661 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,000 for all time that a woman killed me. And it just like made me 662 00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:06,760 laugh because I was like, I don't know anything about this Abimelette guy other 663 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,079 than a lady killed him. And it's like thirty two hundred years later and 664 00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:13,559 the only thing you know is like a lady killed this dude, and it's 665 00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,960 just like funny, you know, you know, I don't know, there's 666 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,000 just all these like when you read it as a book, there are these 667 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,159 funny things that come out, and there's so many, you know, for 668 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:27,239 as a Christian reading this, there are so many christ figures throughout the Old 669 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,559 Testament, and I don't know, it's just been I wish I had I 670 00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:37,039 should actually probably prepare thoughts on what I'm what I'm learning from each book, 671 00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:44,199 because I'm forgetting right now. I love Judges Samuel, I love the story 672 00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:46,920 of David. I think Saul. I don't want to get into it too 673 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,320 much now, but I think that Saul was actually a hero of that story 674 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,320 and a victim of a coup. Basically, Samuel picks him and then he's 675 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,480 like, oh, surely this I think said. They throw Samuel out because 676 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,800 he doesn't kill all the Amalekite like like kids or maybe they're animals or something. 677 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,519 No, what happened is he does have this like effective victory, but 678 00:50:08,599 --> 00:50:15,280 then he allows the people to violate all of God's laws when it comes to 679 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:21,440 taking the spoils of victory, including that you know, they're explicitly told not 680 00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:29,599 to eat fresh blood, and they do, and so as always, it's 681 00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:35,000 failing to follow God's word that leads to a break here. So Samuel's like, 682 00:50:35,039 --> 00:50:37,079 actually, I was all wrong. There's this other kid. I'm going 683 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,760 to bring him in. But then that kid literally fights with the Philistines. 684 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,320 Later he literally breaks every one of God's laws. You can imagine, he 685 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,320 has someone basically murdered so he can marry them. I'm just saying I don't 686 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,440 want to give away in that story, but I mean, I just want 687 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,679 to say, I'm I'm reading that soon. Okay, we should have a 688 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,400 King David. And not just because he's my namesick. I just think it's 689 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:04,960 the most fascinating character in the Bible, just the most amazing story, the 690 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,719 most amazingly like a guy who lives every part of what a man is, 691 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,920 like, he lusts, he's a good guy, he's a hero, he's 692 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,360 like a rock star. He writes poetry, he fights giants, like he 693 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,079 uses like superior technology to kill a giant philistine, like, he just does 694 00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:27,519 it all. And he's just such a fascinating character. So that reminds me 695 00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:32,559 that during twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, when evangelicals were first glomming onto Trump, 696 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,599 they would always say Trump is like a David character. I mean, he's 697 00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:40,639 got his flaws, but he's also virtuous. And it always kind offended me, 698 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,360 mostly because David is known for his repentance when he sins, and that 699 00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:50,199 is not what you would say about Donald Trump. But when you read the 700 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,639 story of Sampson, now that's a guy who sounds very trump Like in that 701 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,639 you know, he's kind of born into favor of a certain kind. He 702 00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:06,960 has a very big zipper problem. It ends up being his downfall. But 703 00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:12,559 he also has great courage and great strength and like great focus on what the 704 00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:15,719 ultimate goals are. So like, if you're going to take if you're going 705 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,519 to take one of these people and say, that's trump like to me Samson. 706 00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:22,360 Oh and also the hair, you know, it's just a natural is 707 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:27,519 important. Yeah. So the other thing I thought was interesting was how much 708 00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:34,880 you don't so in the New Testament Mary when she is given the news that 709 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,760 she is to give birth to the Savior, and she has her beautiful message 710 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:45,400 of how the how God brings the mighty down low and elevates the poor and 711 00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:47,920 the downtrodden. And you know, it's something that you say as Christians, 712 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:53,559 like every week you seeing her magnificat. But I love seeing all of these 713 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:59,960 examples in the Old Testament of this message, like God brings the mighty down 714 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:05,079 and he elevates the poor and the downtrodle is inescapable. How much God is 715 00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:12,159 a god of justice, And yeah, how he looks with kindness on the 716 00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:15,519 poor, the downtrod and the oppressed. He's got a little bit of a 717 00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:17,519 stricter hand, I'd say, in the Old Testament than the New when it 718 00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:21,559 comes to justice and stuff. But maybe not. I don't know. I'm 719 00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:24,559 not no expert on the New testam Do you mean by that? I mean 720 00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:31,159 that people who sin typically pay a big, big price, like give you 721 00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:36,239 an example job, you know, just killing off his children to teach him 722 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,239 some tom some kind of lesson. I know he gives them new children, 723 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:43,480 but we still like the ones we have, right, and or even Saul 724 00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:50,760 saul story is quite tragic, right, or how he treats people who stand 725 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,559 against the Israel. Right, he has the massacred quite often, things like 726 00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:57,920 that. It's very bloody and very it reads more like a chronicle. I 727 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,039 just think because it's older, it has a different sort of perspective. But 728 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,239 you know, we don't want to get too deeply into this. Maybe we 729 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:07,000 should do a David podcast, yeah, or some biblical podcast. I mean 730 00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:13,039 I'm not. Obviously you're far more parmer expertise than I do. But I 731 00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:19,079 find it interesting that I'm just enjoying this. I'm just enjoying this as a 732 00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:23,519 delightful book. So you're not like taking a deep dive into commentary. You 733 00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:29,679 just want to enjoy it for what it is, unadorned by all everything else, 734 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,639 and just read it as literature, almost, would you say, exactly? 735 00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:35,800 And almost The speed with which I'm reading it plays a big partner, 736 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,519 because usually when you know, in my religious tradition in Lutheranism, like you 737 00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:44,880 might do a deep dive into one book of the Bible and you spend like 738 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:50,159 all sorts of time really going through like what the precise meaning of this word 739 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,760 is in that word. And I have always gotten a lot out of that. 740 00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:54,920 But what I'm really enjoying now is just like we're going to run through 741 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,320 this as a book. I want to get the timeline like very firmly in 742 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,199 my head, and then I'll go back and I hope to get more out 743 00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:05,880 of it. Then. Also, I have been loving the comments from people 744 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,719 about my Bible reading, but also everything else that we're doing on this, 745 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:15,800 So I really appreciate everybody who's emailing in thoughts and comments, which I think 746 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,599 is at radio at the Federalist dot com. Is that right correct? And 747 00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:23,440 also because I'm going to be traveling this summer, we're going to pre tape 748 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:29,880 some some episodes, and it would be great if we had questions for David 749 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,400 and me to answer. So if you can send those questions in just things 750 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,320 that we can riff off of or ideas for a one off podcast, that 751 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,000 would be very helpful, so we can It doesn't have to be about politics. 752 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,880 It can be about what is your favorite biblical character or whatever, anything 753 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,400 in the world, talk about sports, whatever you want, we will We, 754 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,400 meaning mostly Molly, will be happy to answer these questions and tell I 755 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,119 think that's it right, Yeah, all right, Well, thanks for spending 756 00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:00,400 it some time with me, Molly. Till next week. We lovers of 757 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,079 freedom and anxious for the Frame