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regular listeners. Let's dive into some
trade stuff. Though December fifteenth already rolled

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around, we didn't do anything specific
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fifteen. We talked about that on
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something like that, since the Nets
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Bobby Marks I think mentioned that recently. Anyway, we're in December fifteenth,

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almost ninety percent of the league players
can now be traded. And so with

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that, Zach Buckley over a breach
Bleacher Report at home. He published a

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trade target big board, So three
targets for every single NBA team. I'm

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gonna go through it, have not
looked at it yet and just react to

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it. These are super hard,
but they're also super interesting to go through.

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But let's let's do it. I'm
gonna throw it up on screen for

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anyone who's watching on YouTube and wants
to follow along with me. So we

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start with the Atlanta Hawks alphabetically.
Obviously, ze Buck has possible targets Delaun

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Right, Jordan McLaughlin, and Kyle
Anderson. I guess they could use more

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guard play here, just like a
different ball hand or Kyle Anderson would certainly

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help Delon Wright injured right now.
I guess he would help. But the

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Hawks. One of the Hawks's issues
has been there shooting. I know Bugdanovich

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helps that now that he's back.
None of these players really move that needle.

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Maybe Jordan McLoughlin when he's getting super
hot, but if they're looking at

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aim Low and they're just trying to
buy time, especially until Jean Day Murray

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is healthy, depending on I can't
remember how long he's going to be out,

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but right it's already out at the
moment. Anderson would be interesting,

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but I fear the floor could be
a little bit crimpy. And you've already

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tried to figure struggle to figure out
how to involve John Collins in this is

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he going out as part of a
deal for this, But yeah, those

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are uninspiring options. It's also weird
because I don't know what the Hawks.

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The Hawks feel like they need so
many things. Someone to juice up the

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scoring though, and the volume shooting, like functional shooting, maybe like a

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Kevin Hurder or something would really work
out well for them. The Boston Celtics,

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Ze Buck has possible targets Jacca Peardle, Mo Bamba as Bismac Pimbo.

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Yeah, they need a big They
do have a trade exception. I believe

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that they can fit some of these
guys into They also aren't necessarily that encumbered

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looking at their first round picks.
I think it's just tough when you look

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at someone like a Yaka Peardle knowing
he's about to get paid, Are you

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gonna give up a first for him? Like were are you giving up for

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him knowing that you have al or
for you have Robert Williams the third?

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You even have Grant Williams here,
and you know how often is he going

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to play for you? Is he
like a fifteen minute guy in the playoffs

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at this point. Mo Bamba would
be more interesting. He's playing really well

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in Orlando though, and they've just
been They've won five straight as I record

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this, so that's why old Bismac
Piombo might be more their speed. But

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I don't know if the Suns are
gonna want to trade him. He's been

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their primary backup bigot points this season. They've sort of fluctuated with him and

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Jack Landale. But I get the
targets for sure. They could also try.

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And I don't know how hard is
they get to the money. But

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look at Rashaun Holmes just not playing
in Sacramento and he's kind of making a

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little bit more than backup center money. But knowing how cheaply you got Al

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Horford and even r W three four, not the worst investment there if you

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can get him the Brooklyn Nets.
This is interesting. John Collins is on

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here for the Nets. Possible targets
John Collins, Mo Bomba, and Jay

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Crowder. I would agree with all
these things. Mo Bamba really giving you

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some spacing in the front court.
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He would be obviously the best fit. I don't you know. The

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Joe Harris to John Collins rumors are
kind of weird. I don't know how

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I nestally feel about that from like
everybody's perspective there, however, he would

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be a great fit. You could
play him next to Nick Claxton, maybe

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even Ben Simmons at the same time, since Simmons doesn't have to be or

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four or five and Nick Lackston's low
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speA curious what you Denetts do have, Like they could trade a first here,

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but what are you giving up for
when it's not John Collins? And

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like the Joe Harris for John Collins
swop might make a lot of sense for

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both teams at this point, given
how much it seems that John Collins's trade

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value is plummeted. Jay Crowder would
just be good for them. It's sort

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of a defensive minded for who can
take on some some bigger wings. But

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why is Phoenix gonna help them out? That's the other issue here is like

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when you're dealing with other contenders or
a team like Phoenix that's gonna want not

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picks but actual players back for Jay
Crowder the Charlotte Hornets, we're just selling

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off everybody. Here's the buck.
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draft picks James Wiseman, Mo Bamba, they are a team that should take

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a flyer on Wiseman, even though
they have Kai Jones, Nathan Knight,

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Mark Williams. If I mean,
if it's out there, I don't know

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who the Warriors want from them.
Maybe PJ. Washington and Kelly Brady Junior.

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Although the wars have done the ubre
thing before, they definitely do need

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an upgrade at the big I wouldn't
go after Mobamba specific he costs you positive

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value. But if you can take
a flyer on James Wiseman or just get

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draft picks like start, you know, put up. Look PJ Washington going

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to the restricted free agency feels like
he's kind of This season has just been

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weird for him, and I know
they're asking him to do too much through

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a lot of their injuries. But
what is what can he get you?

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Cody Martin's not healthy, so that's
a bed one. What can uber get

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you on his expiring contract? Does
Terry Rozier of net positive or net negative

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value? Right now? Looking at
his contract, it's time to sell And

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so yeah, draft picks would be
the key here for them, But they

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would be a team that would be
interesting. Take a flyer on Wiseman unless

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they're really big believers in Kai Jones, J. T. Thor Mark Williams

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those guys long term, the Bulls
is interesting or the Bulls buyers or sellers.

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Z Buck looks like they're buyers.
PJ. Washington, Jay Crowd or

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Denny Aftia as three trade targets for
them. I don't hate any of these.

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They could use more wing depth.
Jay Crowder helps there, will he

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hit enough of his threes? Interesting
to ask. Denny Avvia would be very

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interesting for this team just for what
he brings defensively, and we've seen some

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just ball handling flashes from him.
PJ. Washington would definitely help spread the

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floor. You probably let him play
some backup five in this scenario, which

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Charlotte is not gotten away from entirely, but he's played less five this year

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than he has last year. The
thing is is like the Bulls need more

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bankable, high volume spacing, and
I don't know if this trade. I

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guess outside Denny Avia just won't like
he's afraid to take the reason points.

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Jay Crowd or semi confident him and
Washington would definitely be upgrades, but is

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it enough and what are you giving
up to get them? Do the Sun's

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probably want players, not picks,
and so do you have anyone that interests

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like You're not trading Alice Caruso to
get Jay Crowder. I'd be curious what

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any of these players cost. And
if I'm the Bulls, I'm not trading.

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You already have this year's pick gone
and then the twenty twenty five pick

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on, so I'm not looking at
giving up another one. The Calves,

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it has to be a wing.
They need a wing. Jake Crowder,

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Joe Harris, Kendrick Williams love all
these targets. I don't know if Jay

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Crowder will give you any point of
attack defense at this point in his career,

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which is what the Calves need a
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offensively, they just need someone who's
not you know, Lamar Stevens had a

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big night the other game, and
Dean Wade, when he's healthy, came

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back. He'll make it work.
But you need someone who's just not who's

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who's more dynamic offensively. Joe Harris
is certainly that ken Rich Williams would definitely

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work. I just it sounds like
he wants to retire and Okaysey and that

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they just want him to retire.
It okaycy Zach always said this, but

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he's like the new Nick Hollison there. And then again, what are you

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giving to get Jay Crowder out of
Phoenix? Do they like Carris Lavert?

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Can you build something around Landry Shammitt
and Jay Crowder for Carros Lavert? Do

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you even want to take on Shamont's
money If you're the Calves and you're dealing

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exclusively in you know, you could
have cap space to Summer's my point with

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Cleveland, So sham It eats into
that. Joe Harris, I don't know,

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Like, you don't have picks to
give up at the first round,

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picks to give up at this point? Why would the Nets want Carris Lavert

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back? Are they going to be
interested in Jetty Osman or Isaac Accorro.

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Maybe they take a flyer on Okoro
and that's like, is that the Jay

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Crowder trade too? Like Jetty Osman
and o'koro for Jay Crowder? I don't

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I don't know if that gets it
done. I would be shocked if Kendrick

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Williams gets moved at this point,
it seems like a very he's very malleable,

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versatile player, but also just seems
like a culture center. And Okay,

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see Dallas Mavericks, O, Gianna
Noby, Zacovine, and John Collins

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swinging for the fences here. I
like it. They all seem John Collins

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might be semi realistic. Just his
trade value seems to plummeted. I don't

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know what else, and I know
he's out right now, but I'm just

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I'm flabbergasted at some of the proposals
we've seen. Even Look, Kelly Olynik

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and Jordan Clarkson are having some really
good seasons, but like the proposal of

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trading Olnek and Clarkson for Collins,
and like that was serious. I think

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it was mentioned by Shams. I
don't know if it's been discussed, but

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that would just make Collins sort of
this salary dump for Atlanta basically. Again,

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I know Clarkson has been great this
year, so I don't mean the

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understill that, but he has a
player options about the end of free agency,

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and you're clearly not going to keep
him with Murray and trey O,

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Gianna Noby's just unrealistic. I know
the Raptors are struggling right now. There

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are some flashes from them too,
but their offense in the half court it

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remains this groggy slog. They're not
if they even if they even if they

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tear it down and rebuild. I
do think that you're keeping Scotty and Og

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and then maybe everybody else is on
the table. Maybe Christian Coloco is not

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off limits, but not someone you're
actively looking to move. So that's gonna

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be tough for Dallas. Collins feels
realistic. Zach Lavine, it just depends

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or the Bulls. I don't think
the Bulls will tear a town just because

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they owe that top four protective pick
to Orlando, and you might be doing

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Orlando favor at that point. I
do think in a nutshell, you shouldn't

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care about the optics of that where
if you need to reset and restructure your

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franchise, how much value do you
get for Zach Lavine now when he's been

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struggling coming off those knee problems.
Just doesn't look like the same player this

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season to me anyway, he would
still be a great fit in Dallas.

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Now that being said, for Dallas, you can't trade a first round pick

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until twenty five because of the pick
you owe the Knicks. I just I

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don't know if now is the time
where they can get a bigger fish.

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Maybe Collins because his trade value is
plummeted. But like alls you have is

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picks. You have some players that
I guess teams would be interested in,

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But like, even if you're willing
to move a Dorian Finney Smith, Maxi

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Cleeve was injured right now, so
who's gonna be interested in him? Maybe

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Christian would like these guys aren't blue
chip prospects. You need a team to

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be in love with Josh Green and
Jane Hardy basically plus your plush, your

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picks, which teams will probably assume
aren't going to be that valuable down lines,

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since you have Luca plus whoever they're
giving you. John Collins is like

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the most realistic of those three.
All of them would be great fits Denver

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Nuggets. Let's see Matisse, Thybell, Javonte Green, and Josh Richardson.

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These are some sneaky good picks here. It does. The Nuggets are twenty

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eight in points a lot per possession. They have some really good defensive lineups.

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But you just might need to lean
into it even further. And I

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think Matisse type would really be a
heat check for their offense because he's just

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awful on that end of the floor. He's not even as much as a

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stopper defensively as I think people give
him credit for, but he would certainly

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work. And now all of a
sudden, like, can you get to

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line ups where you're putting Gordon,
Bruce Brown, KCP, Yokich and then

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someone else on the court to just
make it all defense around Yokich. I

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think Josh Richardson would be a good
fit there. You also don't want to

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get to a point well gift the
factor in Jamal Murray as well here too.

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So if you if we just assume
that Yoki Ja Murray are the locks

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to close and crunch time you have
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throw a Tyeball or Josh Richison there, it gives you another option.

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I don't hate the idea of Javonte
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defend all over the place, and
maybe he becomes more of an innings eater

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for the regular season when you're not
fielding your best lineups, which is what

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the Nuggets arguably need because their bench
has struggled this year too. They've gotten

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like good minutes from at different points
from from different guys. DeAndre Joynes byably

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even been a little bit better than
than I expected this season. Of course,

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there's bones Thailand, but it's not
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end lineups that can be good defensively. It's about making the rest of the

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rotation better defensively, which should help
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then also sort of equip you against
emergency in the playoffs. I would be

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curious the asking price and all these
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until twenty and twenty nine, and
that's if it's conditional, because there's a

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pick that's protected out there. So
could you get Tiebold, Green or Richardson

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for seconds and filler? I would
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guess tie Bow at this point not
playing in Philly really, So yeah,

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all good targets there. The Detroit
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so yeah. Johnny Davis from Washington, I'm not sure the Wizards even know

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that that that guy exists. Basically, they don't use him in James Book

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Night, you know, I get
it, like let's just throw some stuff

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at the wall, see what sticks
there. I don't I was in on

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James book night after his first Summer
League, but from what I've seen from

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him, sins I wouldn't be.
I don't know if you want to even

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give him like those those sort of
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cunning him there yet you have Killian
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do you need someone else to factor're
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just definitely take a take a flyer
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the cost. But he was just
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you getting there? And I think
draft picks. You know, it's not

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low hanging fruit. It's a priority. The Pistons unlike some of these other

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rebuilding teams, they don't have all
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into the distance. And it's weird
that they're like maybe shopping Sadek bay Per

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the athletics James L. Edwards the
third, so they're in a weird spot.

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But I'd like to see him get
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move Bayron Madanovitch to do it as
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and as much as he opens up
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Jacca Peurtle, PJ. Washington,
Eric Gordon, So, I actually don't

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like Peurdle for the Warriors. He
like stuff is, but he's injured right

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now and his rim protection has been
down. He's committed more turnovers at the

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elbows this year. I think that's
more of a function of what's going on

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with san Antonio's roster than anything.
But you're probably not gonna pay him in

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free agency this summer, and also
he's not closing games for you because of

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the free throw shooting. And also
just I'd rather have Looney on the floor

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defensively if you're going with two bigs
and so between Looney playing, however many

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minutes plus Draymond at the five minutes, how many minutes there going to be

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for Partle when it matters most.
And if you are going to sell low

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or medium on James Wiseman, you'd
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heavy role for you when it matters. And that's why I would focus on

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the perimeter or a floor spacing big
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could be really interesting. It's sort
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Eric Gordon, I like, getting
to the money becomes tough just because he

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makes over nineteen million dollars this year, So that would be something that the

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Warriors need to grapple with, and
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like to get there is tough.
It's not just a matter of trading Wiseman.

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You have to trade somebody else too, and they don't have guys that

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are expendable outside of their core.
So you're not gonna You're not trading Andrew

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Wiggins an Gordon trade obviously, Like
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You're not getting rid of Quay Thompson
or Graymond Green, Steph Curry certainly

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off certainly off limits here. And
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You're not even giving a Moody in
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when you don't have I don't want
to say, maybe there are some people

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that would call some of their contracts
bad money on their roster, but when

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you don't have active, indispensable or
dispensable salary where it's, oh, this

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player makes a ton of money,
we could just get rid of him,

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it gets really hard to step out
of your way to trades. I love

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the idea of Eric Gordon and Golden
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in real life in front of the
podcast, Jacob Born, who's a Warrior's

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fan, does not like his fit. I think he would prefer more of

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a bigger wing, which makes sense, or someone in the front corp who

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stretches Kelly and Lennox should probably be
on their radar. Mo Bombo would be

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another good addition. If they wanted
to go higher end, you could always

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go with the Miles Turner route.
I just don't know if the Pacers would

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even move him right now. And
again you run into the same issue where

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it's are you're closing with Turner and
Green over Lunia. I guess you would

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be, But like again, how
much of that you know? Do you

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want to invest so much equity?
And where not? Your positions hammered out?

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But you've not traditionally, But like
Draymond at the five is still an

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option. Maybe don't believe Draymond's gonna
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separate issue. So yeah, like, unless you're gonna go I like Gordon,

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but unless you're gonna go with step
ladder your way to basically a three

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for one trade and increase your tax
bill in the process, because James Wiseman

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does make nine point six million this
year, but you would have to attach.

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Yeah, it's not even three for
one like you would have. Are

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you given up Looney in that deal
to get there? You're not gonna be

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up Commingo, like I said,
are you're gonna give up Devin Kenzo if

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you're getting back Eric Gordon, maybe
you're not giving up Moody. You're not

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gonna trade Jordan Poole. You could
trade Patrick Baldwin Junior, but that feels

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like you're kind of selling low there
then two, So Eric Gordon, I

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like is my point, But I
would I think Josh Richardson and like McDermott

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might be that those would be easier
numbers to get through, or maybe just

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Josh Richardson from I would give up
James Wisman for Josh Richardson and that would

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the Spurs do that That bull's pick
that's protected in two and twenty five,

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and so it's like they're not giving
they can reprotect it too. I think

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it's top ten protected. And so
if you think either you think that it's

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maybe not going to convey because the
Bulls are gonna suck. Or if you

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just want to reprotect it so that
there's tight around it, maybe that's a

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deal they could explore since Josh Richardson's
expiring. Or you could just take James

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Wiseman for that first round pick since
they have all this cap space and the

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Warriors, maybe you want to cut
their luxury tax bill. Possible targets for

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the Houston Rockets. Jackson Hayes draft
picks and RJ. Hampton. Love the

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RJ. Hampton inclusion in here from
Buckley. He's been low key good in

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Orlando, just really can't get minutes
on a consistent basis right now. But

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he's had a much better year and
so I shouldn't have sold my RJ.

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Hampton stock leading into the season.
I don't know that I understand the Jackson

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Hayes drop, like you have Shangon
Jabari Smith, Usman Garuba here already,

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so like whyd and Bruntle Fernando,
and why are you gonna complicate the front

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court rotation? Jackson Hayes can do
a lot of switching on the perimeter,

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but that feels like, you know, maybe a Boston should be interested in

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him a little bit more than at
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and they could go after draft picks
they don't really necessarily him. I

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love taking the flyer on handon who
feels like he would be more of a

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conventional game manager at this moment,
especially when you look at the cadence with

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which he plays than a KPJ or
Jalen Green. Not saying he's better overall,

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but just might be a better fit
for that role. The Indiana Pacers

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who could be low key buyers,
a Deck Bay, Moses Moody, Cam

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Reddish. This seems to straut of
the line where it's like you wouldn't get

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any of these players because you traded
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Moses Moody like we have a Wiseman
Moody salary for Turner type deal. Whatever.

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But yeah, they need wing depth. And if you get to Deeck

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Bay, I'm not training a first
round pick for him. If I'm Indian,

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that's the complication here. But if
you can get us a deep Bay,

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that's someone would be really interesting for
you. Moses Moody, Cam Reddish,

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that should be a set like maybe
a second from the Knicks plus plus

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money, So that's a that's a
really good and he would play like they

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had. I called, I said
that. Andrew Nemhard started at the four

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for the Pacers the other night,
I m say, nay, Smith,

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I'm sorry. They both started with
the letter ends like I guess I got

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that mixed up in case anyone caught
that. So yeah, I like Cam

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Reddish here, mostly because he seems
the most guttable Moody or Bay is going

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to cost you. I would guess
a first round pick, which indies shouldn't

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trade. I guess they could trade
that Cavs one that they really wanted to,

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or they have Boston, so you
could go lower end on that if

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the teams will accept it. Otherwise. The Moody one specifically feels like,

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oh did they trade Turner to the
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Love love the Camraddish inclusion, though, and I just don't think the war

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is already to sell low on Moody
where they're just getting back a pick for

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him. The Clippers, Miles Turner, Alec Burks, Eric Gordon all all

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good picks here. I don't know
how much you need Turner unless you're planning

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on paying him after this year?
And what are you giving up for him?

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They have salaries that match it,
But then you need indeed who also

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say like we're fine with just getting
one super distant first round pickback. And

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if they were fine with that,
I feel like the Lakers trade might have

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already have been made. But maybe
maybe I'm wrong there. Alec Burks is

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a good one. You're not,
you know, if you're Detroit, you're

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probably if you can get your own
second pack that the Clippers own of yours.

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I think they have their twenty twenty
five pick or is it two thousan

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than twenty? Yeah, they owe
they are twenty twenty four pick to the

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nit. No, no, they
don't want. The Clippers don't own a

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Detroit pick anymore so, but you
have seconds if you're the Clippers, is

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my point? Apologize for stumbling through
there, so if you could do seconds

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and salary, Like, are you
giving up Roco for that? As he

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fallen that far out of favor.
You're not giving up a Norman Powell in

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that deal, that's for sure,
so I think. But the Alec Brooks

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want is workable even with the salary. Eric Gordon's a little bit tougher because

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he makes so much money, but
like you could get there because you have

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all these sort of salary matching tools. It's just a matter of okay,

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well what are you using to get
Gordon? And does a team want like

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you're probably you're still not giving up
Marcus Morris I think would be too important,

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or Norman Powell. But you have
Roco and you give up him your

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coffee for Eric Gordon and does that
even get them there? Let me see,

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it comes pretty close. I'm not
sure, but you could still find

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other ways. Is that something Houston
getting a fly? I run him your

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coffee and then maybe Preston or Boston
Junior. I'd probably if they're getting that

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much, I'd probably just do it. Whether you're willing to take on Luke

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Konard in the final two years of
his deal after this one, that would

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be interesting. You go Knard and
then it's coffee slash Preston or Boston Junior.

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I think that would get you to
Eric Gordon money. That might be

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a good trade. That's for both
teams. So I like that. I

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like that one. Let's go on, who's the other one. Oh yeah,

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we went through that Burks one or
the Lakers shocker, So we got

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DAMARDA. Rosen, Boyobodanovich and Buddy
Healed. Miles Turner's not on here,

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which is really kind of funny.
Maybe I think Buckley's thinking that the Lakers

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don't necessarily want to trade Russ,
and so you could get to well,

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if you're getting de Rosen, you're
trading Russ because you can't get to De

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Rosen's money any other way. But
and so then that's going to be a

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bigger deal because Russ makes so much
money. You're also taking boot back in

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that or could you get Caruso if
you're giving up those picks, like A,

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you're getting Caruso and then someone else, like can you get Javonte Green

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out of that deal? You're not
gonna get You're not gonna get Iota Sumu

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that's for So do you go that
route? I'd be fine. I don't

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love De Rosen's fit on offense,
So I think you run into he's a

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better player than Westbrook and probably the
better pick and roll passer at this point,

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and he's even like I guess he's
the more reliable floor spacer. But

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has to be on the ball for
it too, so you do run into

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a lot of the same issues.
I think Russ has been playing well off

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the bench, which is why I
think Buckley goes to, well, can

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you just get Buddy Healed and forget
Miles Turner, because between Beverly and Kendrick

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Nunn like you can get too would
just be willing to take on Buddy Heal's

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money. So Kendricks Nunn and pact
Revily for Buddy Heell just get that functional

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shooting in there. Say fuck it, We're not going to worry about cap

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space. We still have those two
picks that we could trade down the line,

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or we could really move Buddy heals
expiring contract. If we needed to

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love Boyan mcdonovitch, would you give
up? I don't think der Troy's moving

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him without getting a first round pick. The Lakers proposed a protected first round

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pick for him, and we're given
the shaft. Would you just full on

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go. You can have our twenty
twenty seven picks for boy and mcdonovitch.

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I'd probably want a little bit something
more just looking at Podanovitch's age, But

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look, Bodonovitch is quietly having an
incredible season. He's one of the most

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forget about shooting in general, he's
one of the most efficient isolation scores in

401
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,079
the league this year. I'm not
even kidding you. So like that is

402
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,240
something that you could actually look at
if your Lakers, and I think he

403
00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:12,119
improves your team a great deal.
So I like all these targets. I

404
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,319
would also add, if you want
the Lakers to trade for a star,

405
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,759
it's not gonna be Damian Lillard's not
gonna be Kevin ramp Like Bradley Beal isn't

406
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,960
too far outside the Roman possibility if
you were willing to include the swaps and

407
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,960
you're in addition to your two first
maybe throwing in Austin Reeves some other seconds.

408
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,079
Beale has a no trade clause,
and so if he says to the

409
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,359
Wizards, I want out and I
want to go to Lakers, that does

410
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,440
give the Lakers some leverage. The
Memphis Grizzlies the first place, Memphis Grizzlies

411
00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:41,039
O Gianna Noby Jay crowd or Cam
Reddish. The cam Reddish would be so

412
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,720
Memphis Grizzlies where it's just like we're
gonna bet on our infrastructure, just improving

413
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,160
this player and so like we have
La Ravia and Roddy and Santiall don we're

414
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,799
just gonna add Anziere Willis. We're
gonna had another project going to the fold

415
00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:55,039
them. We're just that's that's when
we need to puts over the top.

416
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,079
Jake Crowder, I guess would theoretically
it would work for them, that is,

417
00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:02,279
do you consider that an grade over
like the Aldama Larravia Roddy minutes?

418
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,680
Yeah, sure, I think you
would. What are you giving Phoenix for

419
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,880
it to be worthwhile? You're giving
up like a first round pick or one

420
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,440
of your young players that they would
have interest in, and they're not even

421
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,599
maybe they're not looking at when now
trades At that point are they gonna want

422
00:24:14,599 --> 00:24:17,400
to help out someone that they probably
fancy appear, So that has to come

423
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,200
into the fold. But I do
I get it. If you could get

424
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:23,279
him Ojan and Obi would be perfect. I just don't think the Raptors are

425
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:27,000
trading him. But I do think
Memphis if they would, if excuse me,

426
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:30,359
if Toronto would move o Giannaobi,
Memphis has the assets to get involved.

427
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,000
All their own picks. We just
mentioned those young players Aldama, Roddy,

428
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,839
La Ravia, Brandon Clark, Zayra
Williams, even like you include Zayer

429
00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:41,200
Willims in that trade and then plus
that Warriors twenty twenty four pick, so

430
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,440
they could get a deal done.
I would like to see them get in

431
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,200
on like the Kyle Kuzma sweepstakes too, feels like he might be a middle

432
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,839
ground between all this reddish little too
low end o Giannaoby's too high end.

433
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,599
And then Jay Crowder is just tough
because I don't know what they're giving Phoenix

434
00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:59,559
because Phoenix probably hasn't moved Jay Crowd
or since they want win Now talent in

435
00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:02,680
return, so it's you're flipping Jay
Crowd for another player or just using his

436
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,400
salary to acquire a more expensive player
who helps you, and Memphis doesn't really

437
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,079
have that, whereas if you're gonna
get Kuzma and the Wizard are just kind

438
00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:12,359
of in Selmoe, Like you can
use Danny Green's expiring contract plus a young

439
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,559
player. You have to include a
first. I don't know what it looks

440
00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:18,400
like since Kuzma's going into free agency, but that would be a really good

441
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,240
trade. Target Boy Macdonovitch would be
good too. So with Jeremy Grant,

442
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:25,279
I just I think grant will extend
in Portland. And then I also think

443
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,119
that boy McDonald is just so expensive
that you're probably going for a three for

444
00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:33,200
one with Detroit, and that gets
really tough. You have Green salary,

445
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,319
and then it's who are you giving
up with that the Miami heat, Josh

446
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,440
Richardson, Jay Crowder, Sadiq Bay
those all names makes sense. I'd probably

447
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,400
want Jay Crowder makes too much sense. I'd want a player Josh richards in

448
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,000
the reunion would be great, by
the way, and he can play them

449
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,799
four they have. I guess it
comes down to what are you giving up

450
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,880
as the primary salary bait to get
these players, Like what are you giving

451
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,759
Phoenix that they want for Jay crowd
or you're not giving them anything unless you're

452
00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:02,240
giving up Kayla Martin, which you
probably shouldn't. You're not giving up value

453
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,519
that helps Phoenix now, and so
you need a third team to rally.

454
00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:08,519
That not impossible. Josh Richardson feels
eminently realistic. You can I think you

455
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:11,400
can get him for seconds, which
is fine, But can you get the

456
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,720
Spurs? Would you want to give
up a first round pick if they took

457
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,799
on Duncan Robbinson's deal? Are they
even willing to take on a first for

458
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:21,200
those final three years. Does it
cost more than that? And would you

459
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,079
give up more than that? You
could also go because the Heat are just

460
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:30,440
their cap constraints are so thin.
You could go Victor Oladipo and Dwayne Deadman

461
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,400
and you would have to probably compensate
the Spurs with the first because both Deadman

462
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,759
and Oladipo stretch into next season.
Would you consider that? I probably would

463
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:41,119
if I'm Miami at this point.
I think Josh Richardson's been quietly solid and

464
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,720
he helps, you know, to
the reunion with the Heat is just that'd

465
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,200
be fucking cool. But he helps
out a lot of what they need and

466
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,759
you can run smaller play him at
the four. So I'm with this.

467
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:55,200
The Bucks Jordan Clarkson, Jay Crowd
or Eric Gordon, So they were apparently

468
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,039
close to a Jay Crowd or trade
that was part of the Sham's report.

469
00:26:57,319 --> 00:27:00,640
If they can figure it out without
giving up their one distant first round pick

470
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,160
that they can move, yeah,
more power through them. Eric Gordon would

471
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,519
be huge for this team too.
I know he's you know, he's not

472
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:08,799
getting to the rim as much and
he's not shooting the three ball as well,

473
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:11,519
but he could still you know,
if his role is simplified and he's

474
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:14,839
on a better team, Like,
yeah, he can, he can get

475
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,640
it done. I just to get
to his nineteen million dollars number. Who

476
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,480
are you moving? Grayson Allen is
a good start at nine point four million,

477
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:26,200
then you have George Hill and Jordan
Noara like that gets you there,

478
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,759
but you're probably gonna have to give
up What are you giving up to in

479
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,519
that? Like, is Houston just
doing that? How many seconds are you

480
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:33,680
including you're willing to get Marjon bow
Champ for Eric Gordon? That's a little

481
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,279
bit iffy. I do love the
final targets here though, Jordan Clarkson,

482
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,960
I just don't know how you get
him from Utah even if they're willing to

483
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,920
sell lower since he's sit in free
agency like Grayson Allen and what like,

484
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,799
are you attaching to it? It's
Marjon bow Champ enough to get you,

485
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,279
Jordan Clarkson, That's something you could
consider, and can Utah can? They're

486
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:55,160
very quick quote quo where it's oh, like maybe you guys can take on

487
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,440
Rudy Gay or maybe your Milwaukee trying
to get rid of George Hill. But

488
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,200
I think Mike Bootenholzer is probably just
in love with George Hill, So the

489
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:04,119
framework is probably Grayson Allen and Marjehan
Bouchamp would be like the most realistic offer.

490
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,640
I don't. I would be curious
to see what Utah's response is.

491
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,720
My guests would be they'd want a
little bit more, and that Jordan Clarkson's

492
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,240
too important the culture, but he
would be a great fit in Milwaukee,

493
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:18,559
and there's clearly something wrong with Milwaukee's
offense right now. Minnesota, this is

494
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:21,920
a tough one. Gary Trench Junior, Josh Richards, and Kelly Ubery Junior.

495
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,039
I'm out on Kelly Uberdy Junior.
I think Hill Hill shoot threes,

496
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,920
but Minnesota needs guys who are gonna
make them in a higher clip. I

497
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,160
also don't know getting to his salary. It's so mid ends. You're just

498
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,519
at a point where it's at a
bigger trade where you're treating Charlotte Delo getting

499
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:38,640
rid of his money like you're not
moving. I wouldn't move Kyle Anderson for

500
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,880
him or Torrian Prince. And now
you start to run out of money really

501
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,359
quickly. It's like your highest paid
players are Rudy Gobert Karl Anthony Town's De'angelo

502
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,480
Russell, Anthony Edwards. In that
order, those are your top four.

503
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:52,119
Your fifth highest paid player is Kyle
Anderson at eight point eight, Your sixth

504
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,319
highest paid player is Tory and Prince
at seven point three, and then after

505
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,519
that, nobody makes more than two
point three million dollars. So I don't

506
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,559
even know if you're the Timberwolves,
how you even get Dosh Chritchinson. I

507
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,079
think that would be I don't want
to say great because his three point volume

508
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,680
isn't necessarily enough, But I don't
even know how you get to the money.

509
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:12,680
Like they only have the trade exception
for four point four million. That's

510
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,920
not going to get it done.
These are all nice targets Gary Trent Junior

511
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,880
as well, but like you're gonna
have to give up someone to match these

512
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,359
salaries, and it's actually really tough
for Minnesota do that unless they're doing it

513
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,599
as part of a larger deal where
they're moving a bigger salary like a DiAngelo

514
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,480
Russell. And I don't think any
of the players I just named are players

515
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:33,960
you do that for the Pelicans.
Mo Bamba love it, Doug McDermott interesting,

516
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:38,000
Norland's Noel I'm out on no.
Well, I just look the Pelicans.

517
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,319
Pelicans fans have been in our comments
saying that like, no, you

518
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:44,359
wouldn't add value to youants Pound Shoutnis
to get a Miles Turner. And I'm

519
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,759
not trying to be like the I
know better than you national podcaster because I

520
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:51,559
don't like I'm not one of those
podcasters. But if you're not just objectively,

521
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,519
even if you think you oanness valid, Hunis can close games. If

522
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:56,720
you're not gonna have him close games
against Walker Kessler and the Jazz, what

523
00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:02,039
are we doing? Just what are
we doing? You should look to improve

524
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:04,519
the center spots where no, maybe
you're still closing with Nance and Zion,

525
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,039
that's fine, but then at least
diverse fight at the point where that's not

526
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:11,480
your only option. Mobamba gives you
that. Turner would certainly give you that.

527
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:15,880
I like Doug McDermott first three point
volume and cutting on this team,

528
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,599
which is something that they could definitely
use. Do they want to take on

529
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,000
his number for next year? Maybe
san Antonio would do DeVante Graham for Doug

530
00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:26,119
McDermott straight up, since they both
have money on the books for next season.

531
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,359
That would be low key instring Noel
though, it's just like I guess,

532
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,519
he's very active, he's great hands, and he can be a good

533
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:36,599
rim protector when he's healthy. The
space thing, though, it gets a

534
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,079
little weird, and if you're worried
about like the Jonis Zion fit on offense

535
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,599
is fine, the defensive fit is
if he maybe on defense, Noel and

536
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,720
Zion are fine, but the offense
wouldn't be great. He could Zion could

537
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,400
run pick and roll with him,
I suppose, but they're gonna want to

538
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,359
occupy a lot in the same space
just around the basket. That would be

539
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,799
something to monitor if you can get
him for like if the Pistons are willing

540
00:30:55,839 --> 00:31:00,640
to take on DeVante Graham's deal because
Graham next season is owed twelve point twelve

541
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,640
point one million dollars guarantee, and
then Noel is coming off your books because

542
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,160
it's a team option. That's something
the Pelicans could definitely look at. So

543
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,160
I don't mind all of these targets. And maybe, like Detroit wants to

544
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,720
see what Jackson Hayes is, you
can include him in that deal as well.

545
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,680
But I kind of like all these
I'd like to see Myles Turner there

546
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,880
though, like there's I think we've
seen that Miles Turner could really help this

547
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,480
team, and it's someone that they
might actually close with the Knicks. Kuzma,

548
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,119
Ubrid Junior, Robert Covington ZB,
I love you, We're gonna say

549
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:30,359
no. And Kelly Bridge Jr.
I'm sorry. I can't. I can't

550
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,640
put him on my Knicks. I
just I can't do it. I don't

551
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,440
think he's really equipped to play the
three. He's on ball defense might be

552
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:40,920
okay, but he can get really
unattentive away from the balls. Three point

553
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,279
shooting isn't good enough. Robert Covington's
interesting if the Knicks would play small,

554
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:48,160
which they don't, and then I'm
not trading for Kyle Kuzma or Robert Covington

555
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,640
or even do a break for that
matter, unless I'm also getting rid of

556
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,599
Julius Randall just to open up the
four rotation. Right now, Tims wants

557
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,000
to play. He's more likely to
go with Jericho Sims and Isaiah Hartenstein in

558
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:01,000
the front court now than he is
of dusting off Cam Reddish with Obie topping

559
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:06,000
out, and so he wants to
play with a actual big someone at center,

560
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,960
and I think that that might be
coming to his best position at this

561
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:12,039
point, so you need to take
Julius Random out of his chamber. Otherwise

562
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:14,279
you have Kuzma playing at the three, and I just don't think that's a

563
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:16,720
good a good setup. I don't
really even know if I'm the Knicks being

564
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:22,039
realistically ristic realistic, excuse me.
Unless a star comes on the market,

565
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:25,640
I'm not really looking to acquire anyone
player so much as I'm looking to acquire

566
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,920
more minutes for certain players. Where
it's so if we can get off Evan

567
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,920
Fournier's money, that helps open up
things where again, I still would try

568
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,319
to get off Julius Randall's money.
And if you're getting off Randall's money,

569
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:39,720
then yeah, Kuzma makes a good
amount of sense there, So that would

570
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:43,519
be interesting if you're moving Julius Randall's
part of it, and maybe the Wizards

571
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:46,119
would be rebuilding or think Randall's like
the third star and they'd prefer to pay

572
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,079
him over Kuzma is going to be
free agent. I don't know. The

573
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,960
thunder Cam Reddish, yes, just
give them all the wing projects James Wiseman

574
00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:57,359
and Patrick Baldwin Junior and Patrick Bowen
Junior is a good one. He's had

575
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,039
some frisky minutes there for Golden State. Wiseman being sent to okay See when

576
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:07,160
chet Homegren's there, they could probably
play together once Homegrin is healthy. I

577
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,440
don't know that I would want to
necessarily invest the equity and Wiseman, but

578
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:13,440
perhaps you view him as having just
the you know, he is such just

579
00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:16,400
this athletic specimen that you want to
take the flyer. Homegren's not playing all

580
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,160
next year anyway, and he might
need to be ease back. Are you

581
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,759
worried about his health long term?
And they're still in your good player or

582
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,599
young player accumulation mode? I could
see it. I guess. I just

583
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:34,920
question what Okaysee's giving up for Wiseman, Like, are you getting I don't

584
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,799
know. Is it Baseley and it's
ken Ridge Williams Like would they even give

585
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,799
that up? Is that something that
they would do? I don't I just

586
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:45,240
don't know what that package looks like
because they're not moving. They wouldn't move

587
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:49,720
Ludorf for that, or say or
chet Homegrin or Josh Giddy or Rushman Jang

588
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:53,119
and I just named their five highest
paid players and they're sixth highest paid players.

589
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,480
John Williams so they also wouldn't trade
for James Wiseman, their seventh highest

590
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,319
paid players Darius Baisley. Okay,
maybe he makes four point three million,

591
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:05,279
and so would have to be Baisley
and Baisley and Kenrick Williams. Get you

592
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,839
there, that could be a trade
that you would consider. I'm just I

593
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,599
thought not that. I thought.
I'm pretty sure that Kendrick Williams in the

594
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:13,199
Thunder don't want to leave each other. You can go with the Wing project

595
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,320
in cam Reddish too. Again,
what money are you sending out for that

596
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:22,320
though? Or then no magic Moses
Moody, Sadik Bay draft picks, magic

597
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,920
or on fire right now? I
would kind of like to see them improve

598
00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:28,400
there. I know they have Hampton, I know that they have Cole Anthony,

599
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:31,119
they have my god, why can't
I name Why can't I name?

600
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:34,559
Magic guards? They have jail and
sucks, they have Mark el Foltz.

601
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,519
I would like to just see like
more of a steadying hand at guard,

602
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,119
and like Moses Moody's not going to
provide that on the ball. Draft picks

603
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,159
make sense. They already have some
extra in their chamber the Bulls this year,

604
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:50,800
and then they have Denverse two thousand
and twenty five pick. That's right.

605
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,000
I wouldn't give up any of those
picks or their own pick by the

606
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:55,559
way, to get Sadik Bays,
So it seems like it's gonna take for

607
00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:00,639
him. And also I'd rather still
see like chum Okk play than Sadique Bay

608
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:06,480
even though that's that's been quite the
adventure this year. I don't really Michael

609
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:08,800
Moses Moody would make some kind of
sense, like do the Warriors want Terrence

610
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:14,280
Ross or Gary Harris and a Moses
Moody trade, So I don't hate that

611
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,199
one taking a flyer on him,
but I'd rather see them go after a

612
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,400
guard like they would be a fun
maybe if Fred van Fleet team, if

613
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,039
the Raptors make him available, if
that's too high end, like could you

614
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:28,679
go with like do they need to
enter the Jordan Clarkson sweepstakes? Maybe you

615
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:32,239
want more of a playmak or even
though Clarkson's passing has been better this year,

616
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,679
because they get Monte Morris just from
Washington. If Washington turns, you

617
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,239
know, decides to do an about
face and rebuild or just throw away this

618
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,400
season. Morris not had the best
year, but he is a still pretty

619
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,599
good game manager Philly. They are
a hard captain. It's tough. Gary

620
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:52,079
Harris, Jay Crowder, Eric Gordon. I like Gary Harris for them.

621
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:55,119
Jay Crowder would be fine. I
don't know that I love him for them,

622
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:58,559
but to replace some of the PJ. Tucker minutes with someone who might

623
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:01,360
actually shoot you also then play really
not really small, but you could play

624
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,880
Tucker and Crowder in the front court
when Embiad is sitting. You could look

625
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,960
at that Philly salary match is awfully
tough here though, because you know in

626
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:12,760
Biad hard and you're not trading.
I don't think you're Maybe you would trade

627
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,760
Tucker for Crowder at this point,
I don't think they would. And who

628
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,920
wants the final two years of that
contract and you're not gonna trade Melton.

629
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,760
You do have cork Mos at five
million and table at four point four,

630
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:25,760
so there are things you could do. Daniel House if you're not don't view

631
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,920
him his untouchable Yang at three point
five. So yeah, there's numbers you

632
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,039
could get to. There's also Jaden
Springer or some team wants to view him

633
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:37,880
as sort of this project. The
target that feels least most likely then,

634
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,480
though, would be like Okay,
I guess Gary Harris, but like,

635
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:45,679
what are you giving the magic to
make that worth their while? Houston,

636
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:50,760
maybe you could tell them on taking
on Tobias Harris's money and like you're have

637
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,480
to include a whole bunch of stuff
there, Like that gets super weird to

638
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,760
get to a nineteen million dollar number. So I don't know. I guess

639
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,159
Harris would be the most realistic of
these three. I just don't know what

640
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,440
you're I know what you could send
out, I just don't know why what

641
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,559
are you attaching to make it worth
or Landell's wild They want to look at

642
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:10,320
James Bringer, and so you go
with Jaden's Springer and for that doesn't even

643
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,960
get you the money, and so
that's really tough sledding for Philly. But

644
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:17,239
I do like the fits of basically
all these guys. My favorite fit might

645
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:22,079
actually be Gary Harris for them,
it could now it's probably Eric Gordon.

646
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,119
No, No, let's just get
back to twenty eighteen Rockets, The Phoenix

647
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:30,320
Suns, John Collins, Kyle kuz
Met, Eric Gordon Love Love Love Collins

648
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:32,920
might be like the least interesting to
me, just because I don't know what

649
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:36,559
it cost to get him and he
could play with DeAndre Ayton. Are you

650
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:39,400
closing with that him over Cam Johnson. I would be interested to see him

651
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,360
playing the backup five here, but
like DeAndre doesn't necessarily let you be the

652
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,519
five on offense, he would have
to be the five on offense. I

653
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:50,880
think Collins as best suited as being
the five on offense, So I wouldn't

654
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,880
mind seeing him out of Phoenix if
the cost is right there and Atlanta really

655
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,360
wants Jay Crowder. Kyle Kuzman makes
I think a lot more sense as someone

656
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,880
who can diversify your package on both
ends of the floor. He's been pretty

657
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,000
good as a helper, I think
defensively in Washington and then also just on

658
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:07,360
offense, where he's done a lot
of on ball work but can work off

659
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,159
the ball as well. Gives you
sort of a safety net if CP three

660
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:14,199
goes down or is play. It's
like kind of perking up on offense,

661
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,280
but it continues to creator and just
having him and then Devin Booker, Mchal

662
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,760
Bridges and DeAndre and gives you a
whole lot of bodies to cover up for

663
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,239
teams that are going to really seem
like they're trying to capitalize on CB three

664
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,480
getting old where it's like they're really
going after him now and attacking that mismatch.

665
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:32,000
And I've been Eric Gordon, the
Phoenix advocate for forever. He would

666
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,039
still give a lot of rim pressure
relative to the rest of their perimeter guys,

667
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:38,760
and you can get to his number
with Charge and Jay Crowder. So

668
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,320
is there seconds in there? Would
you give up your first maybe just protect

669
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,719
it like top twenty top twenty two
or whatever. And you probably have to

670
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,599
rally a different team in there,
just because why. I just Houston want

671
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,280
Jay Crowder and those two are expiring
contracts. I know Houston shouldn't be interested

672
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:58,280
in Charge, they should be interested
in the equity coming back Portland Trailblazers,

673
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,000
O g and and Obi again for
Portland great for so many teams. I

674
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:05,559
don't think Portland has the pick equity
to get him. Maybe you consider trading

675
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,599
Shayden Sharpe to get him. Would
actually get Toronto a bite. I don't

676
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:12,639
know. Cam Reddish feels definitely more
realistic to get some wing help. You

677
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,880
could just send out a salary and
maybe a second. At this point,

678
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,679
perhaps you have to wait until the
trade deadline because the Knicks are really trying

679
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,719
to wait out and see what their
other plans are, So like you could

680
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,880
send out Justice's Winslow for him,
So yeah, like that would be fine

681
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,079
to take a flyer on him,
but you could also, I like the

682
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,360
final one here in mo Bamba.
I like that, like to sort of

683
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,000
deepen your five rotation. You don't
have to play small as much. I

684
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:38,559
don't know what it costs to get
him since he's playing so well, but

685
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:42,559
you do have the like the smaller
salaries to get his number, do they

686
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:45,679
like Keyan Johnson and Orlando? So
you could use him as sort of just

687
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,639
like the asset buffer there. And
my question though is for Portland, it's,

688
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,159
well, what's the matching salary that
goes out here? Because it would

689
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:55,920
have to be Winslow at four point
one and then Keian Johnson at two point

690
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,559
seven. That doesn't even get you
to a Mobamba salary, I don't think,

691
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:04,440
because Mobamba is making ten point three
and so it's like it's it's close,

692
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,159
So all right, does that work? Does that something Alanna want to

693
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:08,599
do or you're attaching seconds to that? But I do like the idea of

694
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:13,280
Mobamba. But my point was Phoenix
is working with some constraints when it's not

695
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:17,960
this super big trade because Lillard Simons, those are guys you're presumably not trading

696
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,000
Jeremy Grant at twenty one million,
certainly not trading for I guess if you

697
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:25,440
were getting og but probably like I
don't know, so like if those players

698
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,960
aren't going out a deal, you
have use of Nurkicch at fifteen point six.

699
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:30,719
Josh Hart is a name that would
get you a lot of different salary

700
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,639
matching tools. You would really have
to believe that you're not keeping him beyond

701
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,119
this season. And there's GARYT.
Payton the second at a point three million,

702
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,599
And so maybe I'm just underestimating the
willingness for Pointing to move some of

703
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:44,199
these guys. I'm just thinking,
oh, they wouldn't trade Josh Hard or

704
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:45,760
even GARYT. Peyton in the second. But maybe I'm just maybe I'm wrong

705
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,199
there. I'm thinking in a trade
along the lines of the ones are mentioning

706
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:54,360
here. Next up is the Sacramento
Kings, Pascal siakam O, Giannaobi Kyle

707
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,760
Kho's I love it shoot shoot for
the stars. Here. The Kings,

708
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:02,559
like ZB notes, are objectively fun. They've gotten a little bit better defensively.

709
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:07,159
Siakam would be perfect, and I
think he's more gettable personally than o

710
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,239
Giana Nooby because I think if Toronto
starts over, you're looking at moving Fred

711
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:15,639
van Fleet and Siakam and then basically
everyone else but Coloko Anenobi and Scotty Barnes.

712
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,559
So that feels like semi realistic.
Kyle Kuzma also like him too.

713
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:22,000
He's probably still Harrison Barnes has gotten
better, but he's probably still an upgrade

714
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:24,679
there. He also just gives you
the ability to play different lineup packages.

715
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,800
He could play with Barnes and Keegan
Murray and like those three could play together

716
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,400
at the same time if you really
want to. I just don't know.

717
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,880
Because the Kings gave up that first
round pick for Kevin Herder and it's protected

718
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,440
until Kingdom come. They would have
to trade conditional first out in the future

719
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,559
to get this done, and that's
not again impossible. But if you're a

720
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:47,920
team, you have to believe that
the pick they owe to the Atlanta Hawks

721
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,880
this year is going to convey.
Otherwise you're just going to be waiting and

722
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:57,880
waiting for that pick protection, and
so you need to believe that they're twenty

723
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,440
twenty. They're twenty twenty four first
to Atlanta and it's lottery protected, so

724
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:06,159
that gets Dicey the first first round
pick. They could theoretically promise the team

725
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:08,679
is in twenty twenty eight, but
if you go conditional, you can go

726
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:14,039
twenty twenty six. What else are
you attaching here? Davion Mitchell does not

727
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,159
have a ton of cachet on the
trade market right now. Same for Rashaun

728
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,440
Holmes. Are you willing to look
at moving Keegan Murray already? Like?

729
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:25,559
Is that to use that as a
not Kyle Kuzma bait? But for Pascal

730
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:30,440
Siakam, Hell, yes you do
it? Is that plus distant first round

731
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,920
picks plus salary filler? I guess
you're training Harrison Barnes. Let's say Keegan

732
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:38,440
Murray and then picks, Like,
does that get it done? In fear

733
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,400
there might have to be more money
added, but does that get You could

734
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,079
go with Rashaun Holmes too to make
money work? Like does that get it

735
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:49,679
done for Siakam? If Toronto decides
to sell, if they're all twenty six

736
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,000
and twenty eight first round picks,
let's just say the Kings can do this.

737
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:54,920
So I'm not even sure if they
can. But two first, Keegan

738
00:42:55,039 --> 00:43:00,760
Murray Barnes for Pascal Siakam, and
you could throw a home in there if

739
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:04,440
if we need to make the money
work, are they like is that enough?

740
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:07,039
I think that you would probably get
more for Pascal Siakam. I'd love

741
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:10,239
for them to land him, though. It's harder to get Kuzma because like

742
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,119
you can't promise an iminute first round
pick, which is what I think Washington

743
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:16,480
would cove it. And I don't
think you're giving up you. I wouldn't

744
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,119
give up Keegan Murray for him,
Kea Murray's cost controls, and Kuzma is

745
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:22,639
about to become a free agent.
All the targets here makes sense, though,

746
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:25,599
and OG just seems out of reach. I don't think Toronto's gonna move

747
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:30,679
from the Spurs draft picks Patrick Williams
Jaden Springer. I thought maybe Kobe White

748
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,719
would be for the Spurs, Like, let's take a flyer on a ball

749
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,719
handler could initiate offense. I wouldn't
mind that for San Antonio. Patrick Williams,

750
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,079
Hell, yeah, what are you
sending in Chicago though? That they

751
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,039
are going to give you Patrick Williams
back, Like are you at the point

752
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:49,480
where Chicago will take back they're twenty
twenty five pick and they want Josh Richardson

753
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,280
and that gets you Patrick Williams like, and then maybe there's other stuff involved.

754
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,360
There is there anything else you could
do? A deal you could take

755
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,119
on to grease the wheels from Chicago
because san Antonio so much cap space,

756
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:01,760
and that would look like, what, like, what is the deal that

757
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:06,840
you don't love? If you're Chicago, there's really no if you liked the

758
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,960
Rosen and Lavine, there's no bad
money on this team, or you willing

759
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:12,800
like if the Spurs say, oh, we'll take on Lonzo Ball, Okay,

760
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,840
sure he has the two years after
this one and guaranteed at like forty

761
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,679
two million. But Lonzo Ball is
really good when he's healthy. So and

762
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,199
did it with that was Caruso And
so it's I'm just I don't know how

763
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,840
the Bulls like what they're getting back
from San Antonio that would get like make

764
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,239
them want to have Patrick Williams.
I suppose what they could do is if

765
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:35,920
san Antonio is looking to consolidate a
little bit, like do they give up?

766
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,320
They're not going to give up a
Hawks pick you offer you offer the

767
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,280
bulls pick, Like, this is
the trade you offer, the bulls pick

768
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,760
you offer. I would assume Josh
Richardson because he makes so much sense in

769
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,400
Chicago, and then what like Zach
Collins. Uh, Like, I just

770
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,159
I don't know they have that that
fake Charlotte first. So there are things

771
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:58,000
they could do. But if you
can get Patrick Williams, hell, yeah,

772
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,079
like let's just let's see that in
action. So yes, and then

773
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,400
if not, you could go like
super Blow, m Jay and Springer.

774
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,480
Maybe this doesn't feel like a cam
Reddish team, but but maybe they could

775
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:13,000
be the Toronto Raptors. Miles Turner, Yacca Peartle, Jordan Clarkson, Miles

776
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:15,039
Turner, sure, where do you? I guess you could move Trent and

777
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,800
stuff to get him. Yacca Pearto
has been linked to the Raptors for forever,

778
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,760
and I guess he would really help
them too. You have to believe

779
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,519
he's gonna play better and be healthier
than he's been in San Antonio this year.

780
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,000
Clarkson theory helps their half court offense, but runs counter to the team

781
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:30,119
that they've built where everyone needs to
be between six seven and six nine.

782
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:34,360
It's at Fred van Fleet and Christian
Coloquo. So I get it. I

783
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,239
just I'm wondering if this team is
willing to buy, they have the assets

784
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,000
to do it. I would love
Eric Gordon here would be a really another

785
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:44,119
good name to look at. I
also thought like, is I know we

786
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,360
just signed an extension so it's hard
to move, Like is Keldon Johnson untouchable

787
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,760
right now? My guess would be
yes. But with the emergence of Devin

788
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,639
Vassell and the team like still kind
of headed in the weirdo whatever direction,

789
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,800
like he would be a good fit
in Toronto to give some rim pressure in

790
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,960
the half court. Maybe you want
someone with more laterality. So Keldon Johnson

791
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,320
Toronto is not. I was just
that was a Kelton Johnson using in general,

792
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,280
I just what is it costing you
for Turner? You have the Trent

793
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,159
money, and then what picks are
you able to do it with even smaller

794
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:14,239
salaries to where? Because I think
that Trent's skill set, even though he

795
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,199
can be in the doghouse in Toronto, like, it's important to what Toronto

796
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,400
is doing. And so you're looking
at like are you using Chris Bouchet's money

797
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:23,880
or Daddy is Young's money. Ken
Birch and then including first round picks,

798
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and maybe you're taking Yo selling Indie
Indian the injured pressures to Chua and what

799
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:34,079
he did last year and he has
the one cost control year left. I

800
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:37,159
just I think this seems going to
be hesitant to do any like real buys

801
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:39,000
and probably would have even if they
were pretty good. And I just feel

802
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,679
like it's more likely that they sell
at this point. But if they're going

803
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,880
to buy, it needs to be. It's just sort of a half court

804
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,320
initiator who also doesn't like shrink their
spacing and those you know, those are

805
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,960
players that a lot of team wants
want and they're just not going to be

806
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,800
available in heavy supply. Also just
question or are they willing to deviate from

807
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,280
their archetype, Like yeah, okay, if Jordan Carkson's available and you can

808
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,320
get them, like what do you
like, are you willing to get someone

809
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,360
that small? Or like if you
can get a manual quickly from the Knicks,

810
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:07,760
not necessarily a half court guy,
but it gives you some real distant

811
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:14,320
shooting and doesn't compromise your defense too
much. Could you swap like bad contracts

812
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,280
with not bad but like money you
don't want with New Orleans for DeVante Graham,

813
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,440
But are you willing to go for
a player as small as DeVante Graham

814
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,039
there? And so if you're willing
to deviate from like the model that they're

815
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:27,239
in in Toronto, there are certainly
somethings you could do. And maybe it's

816
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,480
not a buy like Superby or a
sell. It's just something that would be

817
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:35,360
a middle ground type of player,
and like someone who springs to mind,

818
00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:37,519
like a middle ground where it's like
you're not really giving up a ton of

819
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:42,119
equity for them, but maybe it's
still sort of works. I guess that's

820
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:44,800
not really like is that player even
out there? Like could you get carros

821
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,760
Lavert out of Cleveland and used to
kind of Gary Trent for carros Lavert?

822
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,000
And something else like maybe you take
the flyer on Isaac Lakorro? Is that

823
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:55,719
too low for Trent? I mean, perhaps it's certainly possible, like they

824
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,079
would want more for him. You
could go after Terry ros Year, but

825
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:00,440
I wouldn't want his money on the
books if I'm Toronto, just to bring

826
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:04,320
him off the bench. And you're
thinking about paying Fred van Fleet, siakam

827
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,559
Aji Nooby and Anoby excuse me.
Downline Bogs mcdonovitch would be kind of perfect

828
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:12,480
for the Raptors if the Hawks were
we're looking to sell. But yeah,

829
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so Toronto is tough to figure out. I think my favorite one of these

830
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:20,320
would probably actually be Jordan Clarkson.
But yeah, the Jazz, who are

831
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,239
all of a sudden buyers. They'll
probably do something in the middle ground though

832
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,000
where they or they'll sell. I
don't think they'll go. Collins would be

833
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:29,760
fun there too. I don't think
they'll go the John Collins route or flat

834
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,360
out by, but maybe they'll do
something in the middle of Peyton Pritchard might

835
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,519
be that type of guy. That
being said, like you have Colin Sexton,

836
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:38,559
you have Jordan Clarkson, you have
Mike Conley right now, you have

837
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,440
Nikki Alexander Walker, like he's had
some nice minutes for them. Jackson Hayes

838
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,840
would be fun because he doesn't help. He spaced the floor and they like

839
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,000
to play five out. You're already
getting away playing Kessler h Walker, Kessler,

840
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:53,920
excuse me, and like you know
you can excuse me. You can

841
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,679
then play like not you could flip
their minutes and Jacksons gives you a lot

842
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,039
of like perimeter defense, not the
great his rim protector, and just some

843
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:05,280
raw athleticism for certain lineups. And
like with Kelly Olynk, headed towards free

844
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,880
agency, you don't know how much
longer he's gonna be around. That could

845
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,199
be a fun just sort of like
second draft guy. And then Nikola Yovich

846
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,320
just like yeah, let's hey,
let's just lean into this like sort of

847
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,119
front court model or whatever. And
I think if you're getting him, you're

848
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:21,320
probably also targeting Heat picks, because
if you're getting Yovich, I'm assuming like

849
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,360
you're sending out someone the Heat want. Is it Mike Conley? Is it

850
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,800
again? I don't know if you
send them Kelly Olynik like that reunion,

851
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,199
that's not getting you Yovich. I
don't think Malik Beasley. Is he too

852
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,440
small though, But like if it's
a Beasley trade, like he's someone who

853
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,039
could probably help the Heat. Are
you having to take on Duncan Robinson in

854
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:39,599
that deal? Though? It would
be something that you really need to consider.

855
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:43,840
If I'm Miami, I would love
lowry marketing, but you're gonna need

856
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,480
like two first round picks for that
at minimum. I don't think Miami would

857
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:51,639
want Jordan Clarkson. With hero Butler
and Lowry there. But if you are

858
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,840
getting excuse me, if you are
getting Yovich, like if they're not giving

859
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,400
you that for Nikkila, Alexander Walker, maybe Jared Vanderbilt, but like,

860
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,360
are they can that he doesn't really
space the floor at all? So that

861
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,920
could that could definitely be something to
look at. The final team, The

862
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:09,360
Washington Wizard's toughest hell to figure out. Oh my god, zib derosing Collins

863
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,559
and Carus So, I don't you
gotta explain the de Rosin thing for me?

864
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:15,400
If you run him a point guard? I guess I get it,

865
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,920
But I think they need someone who's
going to give you even more of a

866
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,000
change of cadence than that, Like
you have the game manager type in,

867
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,519
you have that in Monte Morris,
Wizard trends. I'm not gonna happen with

868
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:27,840
him, I get it. I
don't even know what de Rosin trade looks

869
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,239
like for this team. I think
it's pretty I guess you go with Kuzma

870
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,239
and Barton is like the money you
get there is Chicago doing that? Like

871
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,880
what does that do for Chicago?
Maybe they get you Collins from Atlanta at

872
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,480
this point because those those salaries come
off the books. Kuzma is probably more

873
00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:45,920
used to being like the four wing
type that doesn't need to be used as

874
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,079
a screen center as often as Collins
would prefer. So that makes sense.

875
00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:52,360
That would end Would I do that? If I'm Washington, I'm really high

876
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,400
on Kuzma right now. But Collins
is under contract. He can play with

877
00:50:55,519 --> 00:51:00,000
KP. And that's a situation where
if KP you stagger the minutes of KP's

878
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:05,079
okay spotting up, then you can
use Collins as the screener. Or you

879
00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:07,239
could, like if you want KP
to handle the ball and try and get

880
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,320
him to run some dual big pick
and roll as, you could do that.

881
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:12,360
I don't hate it. Cruso makes
a lot of sense just from a

882
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,800
defensive perspective. But if you're unless
you're giving up Denny Avdia, which if

883
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,000
the bulls are giving up Caruso,
maybe they are taking on something like the

884
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:24,440
Avdia or Hachimura just because of their
or are they getting like are they flipping

885
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,440
out? I don't know if Caruso
Kuzma is a good trade for either side,

886
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,159
to be honest, but Cruso doesn't
shoot, then they obd is afraid

887
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:34,679
to shoot, so that's something you
would need to factor in. Caruso would

888
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:37,599
be interesting there though. I like
Collins the most out of list and the

889
00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:39,400
Juros, and I'm just not sure
what the framework looks like. And the

890
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:43,920
Wizards, you know, you have
to factor in there, like they're sort

891
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,360
of in the King's dilemma. They
have the twenty twenty three first oh to

892
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,760
the Knicks, but it's lottery protected. Then it's top twelve protected in twenty

893
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,880
and twenty four, Top ten and
twenty five, Top eight, and twenty

894
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,760
six. So theoretically the soonest they
can promise a first round pick because you

895
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,119
need to skip a year or two, they can trade a conditional first round

896
00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:05,760
pick, but are do you trust
that the Wizards are gonna convey this year's

897
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,360
pick to the Knicks when it's a
lottery protected No, you absolutely don't.

898
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,480
And so to get DeRozan for that, I thought Atlanta would want at least

899
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,000
like some kind of a first for
Collins. You do have. Again,

900
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:16,960
Denny Avia could be involved in a
trade. Would I give him up for

901
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:21,840
Collins? Probably not. I'm super
high on Danny Avia, and if just

902
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,159
based off what we've heard about Collins's
value, would you give up a Kissberg

903
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:29,760
or a Davis plus salary like to
sort of make that work again, you

904
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,320
might just need Kuzma and Pardon to
get Collins their way to get Collins without

905
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,840
giving up Kuzma. Probably not unless
Atlanta is looking for strictly cap relief in

906
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,960
Barton, and then you could go
with if they actually wanted young players,

907
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:44,480
like if you could keep Kuzma over
Avdia and you were gonna resign Kuzma.

908
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,559
Do you think a lot of people
around the league, based off what I've

909
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:51,199
read and heard, are going to
want or believe excuse me, that Kuzma

910
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:52,960
is leaving anyway? So if you're
feeling that way, then yeah, absolutely

911
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,719
trade him. Let me know if
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leave you to shout out to the
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loan untouchable player in the NBA as
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season, Frank Mila Sama, who's
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