WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:34.320 day. Now here's Nick Coffee. All right, let's get the four o'clock 3 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:38.759 hours started. Shall we Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk 4 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:41.240 seven ninety. That is us. My name is Nick Coffee. The company 5 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:44.520 man John Alden. He's with me for the next couple of hours, and 6 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:48.960 then we are out of here for a extended weekend celebrating the fourth of July. 7 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:52.560 And I want to get the four o'clock hours started by letting you guys 8 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:57.479 once again know about my great friends over at the Louisville Men's Clinic. Fellas. 9 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.880 There's a lot of different ways they can help you. 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All 28 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:15.159 right, So I just saw this during the break and it's just a reminder 29 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:19.319 of how stupid the NCUABLEA is. I mean, you got to have rules 30 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:22.840 in place, and you have to hold people accountable if they break rules, 31 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.479 because if you don't, then there really is no point of a rule. 32 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:29.919 It's not a rule if you don't have to actually follow it and you don't 33 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:34.879 have to suffer any consequence for not following it. But whenever you see self 34 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:40.520 reported NCUAA violations from schools, I used to just assume, oh, oh, 35 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:45.319 like they must have done something crazy bad, but usually like if you 36 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:51.280 self report, In fact, how often has a self reported violation been something 37 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:57.639 major? I mean there was a time where the NCUAA had a lot more 38 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.759 power. You were fearful of them. You still should be here, I 39 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:05.400 mean technically they do still. I mean college sports as of now still technically 40 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:12.039 falls underneath the organization that is the NCULEA. But now we've seen firsthand. 41 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:15.080 You can hire lawyers, you can fight them in court, and they just 42 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:16.439 they don't have a lot of power. They keep losing, they keep taking 43 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:22.039 l's meaning the NCAA. But when they used to have the ability to put 44 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:23.800 fear into you. Anytime you heard instead of a violations, rather it be 45 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:28.919 somebody breaking a story or self reported violations by the school, you just assume 46 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:30.960 the worst. At least I did, and unfortunately, as a louisvl fan, 47 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:35.560 I got a lot more experience than other fan bases, because you know, 48 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:37.840 we've had a lot of issues when it comes to that kind of stuff. 49 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.000 But that's all in the past now. But here are some things that 50 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:46.240 had to be self reported that are coming out of Tuscaloosa. So Alabama has 51 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:52.479 reported eleven n CUAAA violations and only one of them came from men's basketball, 52 00:03:52.560 --> 00:04:00.919 zero came from football, men's golf. Non athletic staff member tended two meals 53 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:04.520 where recruits were present. That's a violation. Yeah, oh dude, you 54 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:11.039 you'd have no. I mean, they're the things that are in that rule 55 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:15.080 book that you know again rule viola. If you break the rule, it's 56 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:18.399 a violation. I mean that's technically what It blow your mind, you know 57 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:21.560 there, if you're non athletic staff, you can't be near recruits. I 58 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:27.240 mean, just to give you an example, when Chris Jones, who, 59 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:30.319 by the way, long time ago, Chris Jones was visiting Louisville while he 60 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:33.000 was at junior college did juco All American And by the way, I keep 61 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:35.560 forgett he's going to play on the Louisville TBT team coming up here in a 62 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:39.839 few weeks, which he should be a good asset to the squad this year. 63 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:44.959 But Chris Jones was tailgating at a u of L football game with Rick 64 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:48.199 Patino over in that spot if you know, the area where the men's basketball 65 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:53.120 team used to always hang out in tailgate near the right where the cabooses start 66 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.319 the tailgating caboos is like right under that underpass to the to the far right 67 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:01.560 if you're looking away from the stadium, and Vinnie Tatum would set up over 68 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:08.279 there, and some other officer Dale who's been the officer that's been I guess, 69 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:11.839 you know, security and really the officer that's around the men's basketball program 70 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:14.600 for many many years. They would all hang out over there, and you'd 71 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:16.920 see occasionally Patino. That was rare, but you'd see Patino sometimes. You'd 72 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:21.680 often see assistant coaches, and you would often see players. And I remember 73 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.759 he was visiting and I took a picture with him, and I think I 74 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:30.480 might have been Angel Nunez who was was Maybe Angel was already gone. Either 75 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:38.439 way, I took a picture of Chris Jones tailgating and ink he might have 76 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:43.279 been next to There were other players around, and I think I tweeted something 77 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:46.160 along the lines that said Hey, Chris Jones seems to be enjoying his visit. 78 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:49.240 Here he is, you know, with Shane Bhannon and somebody else. 79 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:56.360 Well, I guess because I'm a credential media member, and I made the 80 00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:00.519 comment that, like, he's enjoying his visit, or maybe I said he 81 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.160 says he's enjoying his visit, because I did talk to him. You know, 82 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:04.800 I was trying to get in. I was trying to get info at 83 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:08.839 the time to like see how his visit was going, which you know, 84 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:11.120 I wasn't like I was like, hey, you know, can I get 85 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:12.759 a picture with you? I'm a big fan, but like, I was 86 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.160 just trying and I went over there to talk to some people that I knew 87 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:16.279 and saw that he was there, and then that's when I was like, 88 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:19.319 hey, you know, you enjoying yourself when't like a formal interview, but 89 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:21.920 I was just trying to get some feedback or whatnot. In fact, it 90 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:26.839 was an assistant coach who introduced him to me whenever that happened. But anyways, 91 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:29.720 I got a call from Kitny Klein the next day on Sunday and he 92 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:30.879 was like, hey, can you take that picture down? I was like, 93 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:34.040 sure, you know why what happened, and that was an instead of 94 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:41.120 a violation because I was a credentialed media media member and I was I was, 95 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:46.480 I guess interviewing a recruit visiting that was like an unofficial visit or something 96 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:48.399 like that, like you can take pictures of him, you can, you 97 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:54.360 can say they're there. But it was because I implied and probably didn't imply, 98 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:57.160 I probably said it that I had communicated with him while he was visiting. 99 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:00.680 That was an instead of a violation. So that was when it really 100 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.879 hit me just how stupid this stuff is. But back to Alabama swimming and 101 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:12.720 diving coach is mistakingly paid for transfer recruits meal valued at thirty two dollars what 102 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:16.519 I mean mistakingly paid for. So I guess if he's a transfer recruit, 103 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:21.800 you can't pay for their food, I guess, And maybe you can. 104 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:26.959 Here's what I think happened. They probably are allowed to pay, like with 105 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.680 funds for the school to like put you know, to feed some of the 106 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:38.000 other swimmers and whatnot, but the visitor who was potential transfer, you're not 107 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:40.879 allowed to do that. So maybe that's where the rural broke broke place. 108 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:46.319 An associate women's soccer coach accidentally email or recruit before the permissible date. An 109 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:50.720 assistant women's rowing coach worked at a privately owned camp that didn't meet institutional camp 110 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:56.560 requirements. Gymnastics staff had contact with a potential recruit before the permissible date. 111 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:00.920 A baseball recruit made an official visit before being added to the NCAAL Eligibility Center's 112 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:07.959 institutional request list. A swimming coach had in permissionble electronic contact with an athlete 113 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:13.879 who hadn't initiated a notification of transfer yet. I mean, that's essentially tampering, 114 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:18.560 is making contact with somebody who hadn't initiated the notification of transfer, which, 115 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.360 by the way, tweeting your transferring is not a notification. Notification of 116 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:26.079 transfer is letting your compliance people at the university know. They then put it 117 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:28.800 in the system and it goes to the nc DOUABLEA. So like it's to 118 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:33.840 me, it just seems silly, I mean, with like, why does 119 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:35.519 any of that really matter in the grain scheme of things? Now, you 120 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:37.879 know what I mean? Like, it just doesn't matter, especially doesn't give 121 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.759 you, it doesn't give you an advantage. What percentage of schools do you 122 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:46.559 think tamper with the transfer all the time exactly, and you know what, 123 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.200 you know what I here's what I actually, here's what I hate about coaches 124 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:56.759 complaining about tampering. One they probably do it too, but also put somebody's 125 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:00.480 name on it. Like I just think it's you really think think about it. 126 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.360 It's a weak thing to do in the current landscape of college athletics for 127 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.120 a coach to you know, call out somebody, or basically they don't. 128 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:11.679 They're not calling somebody out, They're just saying that people are tampering. And 129 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:18.720 I mean, you know, it's almost like you're you're already making excuses for 130 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:24.279 not having success. That and sol is the most common thing here. I 131 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.600 feel like, oh yeah, this is one that I'm looking here down on 132 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.200 a long list of self reported violations over the years. This was from Clemson. 133 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:37.919 A Clemson football player impermissively sold team issued gear, triggering a level three 134 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:41.720 instead of a violation. I mean, you can't do that, although I 135 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:43.320 know a lot of level players who have done it, and I'm sure Kentucky 136 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:48.200 now you can, by the way, Which that's funny timing here because earlier 137 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.080 this week there was an Ohio State recruit, by the way, Like, 138 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:54.399 if you're a big time Ohio State recruit, you're making a ton of money 139 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:56.559 right now. Like if you're a player on the Ohio State team and you're 140 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:01.639 a high level player, you're making a lot of money. Nil Yet Jim 141 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:05.000 Tressel, a very successful coach for them, got fired because of violations that 142 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:09.440 took place whenever his star quarterback paid for a tattoo because he didn't have any 143 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:13.960 money, paid for a tattoo by giving away some of his jersey, some 144 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.279 of his gear. So there was a player earlier, might have been the 145 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:22.360 running back for Ohio State that got a new tattoo himself and he gifted you 146 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:26.120 know, he added a tip to the tattoo, which I didn't know that 147 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:30.279 was the thing, and it was his signed jersey. Like I mean that 148 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:31.440 you're clearly doing that, you know, to make the joke, but like 149 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:37.440 it is a reminder for people how crazy college athletics is now compared to what 150 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:39.519 he once was. And I guess I shouldn't say it's crazy. It's just 151 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:46.480 so different. It's a different world. This is one from Michigan. Like, 152 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:52.559 how do you even like I would I would love to be the person 153 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:54.320 that got in trouble for this and go in for the NCAA and mess with 154 00:10:54.399 --> 00:11:00.960 him. But this is the violation an analyst coached instead of analyzing. I 155 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.919 would love to say, Okay, I'm gonna fight this charge. I want 156 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:05.840 to I want to meet with the infractions committee whoever the hell it is that 157 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.480 you know puts this stuff in. You know that that tries to, you 158 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.919 know, hold people accountable for these silly violations, and say, okay, 159 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:16.679 prove it, prove that I was coaching and not analyzing. You can't so 160 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.200 stupid. There's some more here, but we'll move on. I just I 161 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:26.840 you know, it's it's just a reminder for me that the nc double a 162 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.960 kind of lives in its own world because these things probably happen all the time, 163 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:39.679 all the time, and there are people who I guarantee you work in 164 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:45.200 college athletics at some level, or they've been players, and they've committed violations 165 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:50.159 and would never even know that it was a violation. I mean, this 166 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:54.960 is a good example of just how I mean, like, what is the 167 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.080 point of of of like what what competitive advantage is somebody getting? I mean, 168 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.639 I know, again, if you have a role in place and you 169 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:05.879 don't hold somebody accountable for breaking the rule, then you know it's not really 170 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:07.799 a rule. But again, these shouldn't be rules like this. This shouldn't 171 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.840 exist, some of this silly stuff. But Katie George, when she was 172 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:16.440 a student athlete at uf L, she was also going through the process of 173 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:22.639 she was Miss Kentucky and I don't you know, while still playing volleyball and 174 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.360 throughout that process of the pageant, you know, she's I don't want to 175 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:28.720 say training for but you know, getting ready for it, and there's a 176 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:33.080 lot that goes into it and there and she told the story on the air. 177 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.320 She used to be a part of our morning show. In fact, 178 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:39.000 she got hired the same time I did, back in twenty sixteen. And 179 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:41.480 now she's, you know, moved on up. She's she's the one you 180 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:45.279 see interviewing, you know, players after they win an NBA championship or players 181 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.360 after they win a college football national championship. She's doing big things. So 182 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:50.919 shout out to KG. But she told the story about how, while she 183 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:54.919 was still playing volleyball and going through the process of you know, the pageant 184 00:12:54.960 --> 00:13:01.120 and whatnot, she got something from somebody. I think she I think it 185 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.799 might have been a pillow. It might have been a somebody gifted her a 186 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:09.440 pillow because she'd mentioned how she was really having a tough time sleeping or something. 187 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:15.759 And it led to her realizing that the NABAA was looking into her because 188 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:20.399 throughout the process of going through the you know, becoming Miss Kentucky, she 189 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.159 was going to probably get like sponsorships or get you know, things gifted to 190 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:28.159 her or compt you know, she was gonna get camped. And I think 191 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.039 somebody worked at like a store. I don't know, I know, I'm 192 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.279 not making it something about a pillow and the n double A came in and 193 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:35.720 was like, look, you have you have to turn all that stuff back 194 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:41.240 in or you have to pay back money to the n C double A of 195 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.519 what that of what that cost. And it was just like an eye opener 196 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.840 for me because they, I mean, it's like the investigation process wasn't as 197 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:52.360 if we're investigating you for something silly that doesn't matter that you really wouldn't even 198 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:54.759 get in trouble for I think the people that are working like for the n 199 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:58.759 S double A investigating they treat it like you might go to prison, Like 200 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.360 it's just they take them elves way too seriously, and they just they're not 201 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:07.399 needed like that's they're needed for smaller level college sports and they have value there 202 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:11.919 just because they are the organization. They are, you know, the governing 203 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:15.399 body essentially, but man high level college sports, it's pro sports now, 204 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:16.559 that's what it is. Like MEANSBOL is not needed. They're just in the 205 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:20.639 way. Like the breakaway will happen at some point. I don't know when 206 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:24.440 it happens, but it's gonna happen, and I don't know if it's gonna 207 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:26.840 be for better for worse as far as college athletics as we know it. 208 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:31.440 But they they're just not needed. But anyways, we'll move on all right. 209 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:35.360 Again it's coffee and company. We are fueled by Thornton's here on a 210 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:39.159 sports talk seven to ninety. Appreciate you guys hanging out with us as though 211 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.960 we gain as we again get you set for the holiday weekend looking forward to 212 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.360 the fourth of July. We did talk about the weather earlier. We're not 213 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:46.799 mediorologists here, but it doesn't look like weather is expected to be great. 214 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:52.879 But I do want to remind you fifty percent of a chance of rain like 215 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.679 doesn't mean it's gonna rain. I mean, like, let's be real, 216 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.759 they've probably had seventy eighty percent chance of rain, and I mean they're wrong 217 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:03.440 often. So let's hope that tomorrow is in fact a day where they are 218 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.159 there they are wrong, because you know, it'd be nice to be nice 219 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:11.480 to get to get some nice weather, hang out around the pool. I 220 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:13.799 mean, I'll probably end up going to my mom's. I think they're gonna 221 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:18.679 have a cookout and you know, celebrate, celebrate America, celebrate our freedom. 222 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.320 All right, So real quick, this is uh, this is something 223 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.919 that was in our show sheet earlier today that gets sent out each day, 224 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:35.120 the fireworks. So says here that last year, ninety seven hundred people were 225 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:39.879 sent to the emergency rooms due to firework mishaps on the fourth of July. 226 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.240 Does that surprise you? Ninety seven hundred people? Is that the entire United 227 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.159 States? Yeah, that seems believable. It does seem like a lot of 228 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.000 people. But when you consider the entire country, I guess it's not too 229 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.759 bad. But how many people like I'm not setting off fireworks? You're not 230 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:56.480 set off fireworks? Right? Like? You know, it's not like you 231 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.600 know, you got to consider the amount of people who are actually lighting them 232 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.519 off. Like, if you've got if you've got if you've got ninety to 233 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:07.039 one hundred people gathered around watching fireworks, there's probably two peoples lighting those off, 234 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:08.720 you know what I mean. Yeah, but I guess you got to 235 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:11.360 think about some of the larger areas to like New York, if they're if 236 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:15.840 they're at a large firework show and maybe something goes wrong and at one of 237 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:19.120 the sections, and you get not a mass number of people, but more 238 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:23.600 than you would typically expect. Maybe that's what inflates burns types numbers, burns 239 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:30.559 to the hands or face. Blast injuries, including loss of fingers, and 240 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:33.440 eye injuries were the most common, so you know stall eye or just eye 241 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:37.799 injuries, eye injuries, loss of loss of fingers, which you know, 242 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:45.120 there's I'm sure there are tragic accidents where people have lost their finger, lost 243 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.600 multiple fingers, have lost their hand, but like that's not that common. 244 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.080 Like that's not common at all, right, Like somebody like it's one thing 245 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:53.919 to you know, get burned, it's one thing to you know, hurt 246 00:16:53.960 --> 00:17:02.240 yours like this this notion that like every year a handful of people lose a 247 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:03.319 finger, Like I just have a hard time thinking that's real. But then 248 00:17:03.319 --> 00:17:06.720 again, I say that as somebody who doesn't light off fireworks, so maybe 249 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:10.160 I don't realize just how dangerous it is whenever you're you're right there in front 250 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:11.039 of the you know, like, how would that happen? Though? You 251 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:15.920 just like being a dumb ass, being drunk or something like probably because if 252 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:22.440 you're losing a finger, doesn't that mean that it was in your hand when 253 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:26.079 it went off? I mean, what's the other you're losing exactly. Yeah, 254 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:33.079 So like if you are somebody that loses a finger lighting off a firework, 255 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.759 I'm going to assume that it's operator air and it's not the fireworks fault. 256 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:38.240 It's your fault. You're sticking your hand above where they're shooting off, 257 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:44.279 trying to be a dangerous And there's always you know, there's always somebody at 258 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:47.039 a firework party or you know. And I don't mean like if you go 259 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:48.960 to some like public park where the city, you know, where your community 260 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:51.720 is going to have a firework show, but I mean if you're just in 261 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:53.720 the neighborhood and you go to somebody's house and they've got it set up and 262 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:56.160 you know, there's the guy that spends way more money than most people, 263 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:59.279 and they just love to blow stuff up. They're in their own element. 264 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:02.400 They just love loud noises, and you know this is their time to shine, 265 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:03.480 right. They're not worried about, Hey, did you put up any 266 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:07.039 money to enjoy these fireworks? They're telling you to sit down and enjoy the 267 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:11.359 show because this is what they do. They're firework guy like. They're always 268 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:14.720 eager to toe the line for somebody to say, hey, be careful, 269 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:18.400 I wait to stay because they I think they get off on like, you 270 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:21.480 know, want people to know. They're not afraid. They like to blow 271 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:26.480 stuff up. I still think that fireworks have been relatively mild where I lived, 272 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:29.880 John, I don't know about you, so I men told me earlier 273 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:33.200 it was bad. It was bad last like going into last weekend. It 274 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:36.759 hasn't been too terrible in the last couple of days. But at this point 275 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:38.880 they're saving up. They're waiting for Thursday. But here's the thing, though, 276 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:42.960 Friday too, Saturday too. Once Thursday hits, it's gonna be Thursday 277 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:47.640 through Sunday people knocking out or blowing up fireworks, no doubt about it. 278 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:53.000 No doubt about it. Has it been just loud you just notice it hasn't 279 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:56.880 been like super invasive yet, but like you just kind of hear it. 280 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:59.720 Like last night, when we were getting ready for bed, we heard a 281 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:03.799 couple of just noises. We thought something maybe had fallen in our living room, 282 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:06.759 But after hearing it multiple times, you're like, okay, never mind, 283 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:10.079 somebody in the distance is shooting off fireworks. Yeah. So last night 284 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:12.119 was the first night for us to where the kids were in bed. We 285 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:15.880 were on the couch watching a new show, which I do want to mention 286 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:19.359 later, a really good show on Apple TV that we I think we watched 287 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:22.200 four episodes last night. So we were up a little later than we usually 288 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:26.480 are, and every now and then I would hear, you know, a 289 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:29.519 big boom that clearly was a firework. It was coming from the street behind 290 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.640 us, but it wasn't It wasn't constant, and it wasn't really really late 291 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:36.880 where I used to live and even the house before that. I mean, 292 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:41.720 I swear to you, I'm not exaggerating. I feel like for ten days 293 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:47.799 prior to fourth of July, and then about four days after fourth of July, 294 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.000 it was every night. Now it wasn't the same level, but like 295 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.279 as you got closer to the fourth later and louder, and then of course 296 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:57.559 by you know, on fourth, like tomorrow night, like you know, 297 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:00.160 even if I am annoyed or something and by it, which I won't be, 298 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:03.480 like, I understand it's the actual holiday, you know what I mean, 299 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:10.039 But I don't know what it is. We did have some people reach 300 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:11.960 out on the text line earlier this week when we were talking about it, 301 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:15.039 saying that one of the reasons why they're just not is eager to do it 302 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.559 is because it is really expensive and you know a lot of other things. 303 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:22.359 In fact, everything else seems to be more expensive than it once was. 304 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:26.400 So maybe you're sacrificing with fireworks. And I would bet that some of you 305 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.359 that do that will realize you don't miss it. But maybe that's just me. 306 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:32.279 All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side. 307 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:36.000 Keep this thing rolling along. I do want to talk a little bit about 308 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:40.599 lebron James's son, Bronnie James's contract, because anybody claim and we already know 309 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:42.440 there's nepotism involved here, but they're not even trying to hide it with the 310 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:47.119 contract he got so stick with us again. We are with you till six 311 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.640 o'clock right here Coffee and Company Field by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. 312 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:55.480 Does it get any more American than Brooks and Dunn? I'm not sure. 313 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:59.680 I mean, I said the same thing about Springsteen when you played it earlier. 314 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:03.000 But you know, Brooks and Done. Have you ever met anybody that 315 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.480 doesn't like Brooks and Done? Like, clearly some people like Brooks and Done 316 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:10.079 more than others. But like, who's saying no, I'm out on Brooks? 317 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:12.119 I'm with you, Like they don't have to be your cup of tea 318 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:15.799 every day of the week. But I don't. I couldn't tell you somebody 319 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:18.200 who doesn't appreciate I kind of feel like as a country, it's it's kind 320 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:22.440 of instincts as Americans to to kind of step forward and do something about it. 321 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:26.880 If you hear somebody talking down about Brooks and that's how That's how I 322 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:30.480 live my life. But that's just me, all right. So Bronnie James 323 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:36.759 last week drafted by the Lakers. Everybody saw it coming. And he's drafted 324 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:40.039 by the Lakers because his father is Lebron James and he plays for the Lakers. 325 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:45.920 And yet the last few days have really been and I guess it's late 326 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:48.839 last week after the draft, and of course yesterday when he had his press 327 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.400 conference when he was introduced as a Laker in LA. I just we all 328 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:59.759 know what this is. And I although I do realize the expectation of Bronnie 329 00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:03.599 J James saying yeah, of course, yeah, I'm only here because my 330 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:06.400 dad. I mean, you gotta see me play. I'm not an NBA 331 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:08.480 guy. Come on like that. You know, I know he's not going 332 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:11.799 to say that, But don't lie to us, man, like you could 333 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.720 be a little a little more with us. In reality, we're not stupid. 334 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:21.759 And I've always said this about lebron James. He is the least self 335 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:26.200 aware person. He does not understand how he comes off. He has no 336 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.680 ability to read the room. He's not relatable to anybody, and I think 337 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:36.720 that has really been a big disservice to him as far as the public perception 338 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:40.640 of him. You know, he's not a criminal. He's usually been very 339 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:45.160 respectful when in front of a camera. You know, he's professional. He 340 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:48.039 flops a lot, you know, he cries and whatnot, but you know, 341 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:49.599 he's not a guy that, you know, you got to worry about 342 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:56.720 making the news because he's you know, doing something illegal or something shady. 343 00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:59.279 I mean, he's he's you know, if you only don't like Lebron, 344 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:04.200 probably just hate him because they love Michael Jordan and they get triggered when somebody 345 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:07.599 acts as if he could be in you know, if he could sniff Jordan's 346 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:12.559 shoes, and I get that. You know, it's two legends. You 347 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:15.160 know, there's a lot of great players in the NBA, but let's be 348 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:21.839 real, the back to back all tom greats are Jordan, I mean Jordan 349 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:27.079 Lebron. So I've always felt though, like just him just being Lebron, 350 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:32.240 and I wish I had a better way to to to to I guess you 351 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:34.680 know convey what I'm what I'm trying to say here, But like how often 352 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:38.559 have you heard Lebron in a press conference or you've heard him in an interview 353 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.559 or after a game and you just or you see him flop and you're like, 354 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:45.519 oh, come on, Lebron, like really, like do you think 355 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:49.119 people are gonna believe that you were really fouled like that hard? Do you 356 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:52.480 really think that like they're not going to show the replay like there is there 357 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:57.319 a sniper up in the nosebleed seats that that took you down. Like, 358 00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:00.519 I mean, come on, man like and everybody fly. But again, 359 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:03.319 when you're Lebron, there's a lot more eyeballs on you. So I've always 360 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:07.279 had a difficult not relationship with Lebron because this may surprise you guys, but 361 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:12.440 he doesn't know who hell I am. But I respect his greatness. And 362 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:18.519 what I mean by that is, yeah, he bounced around to teams, 363 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:21.319 created a super team. Like he didn't do it the way a lot of 364 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:22.279 other athletes would do it, but like, he's one of the best players 365 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:26.160 that's ever played this game. That's undisputable, and I you know, I'm 366 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.640 aware of that. I've at times rooted against him, at times I've rooted 367 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.480 for him. I do realize now that his run in Cleveland, when I 368 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:34.839 was all in it was only because I hated the Warriors that much. But 369 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.599 I want to like Lebron more than I do, because again, I think, 370 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:42.000 you know, it's insane to see that he's been able to exceed the 371 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.160 unbelievable hype that was attached to him whenever he came out of high school. 372 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.039 I mean back in two thousand and four, whenever he was leaving Saint Vincent, 373 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:52.359 Saint Mary. I mean, you know, you got to keep in 374 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.319 mind, you know, the internet was still relatively young at that point. 375 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.240 That was, you know, twenty one years ago, twenty years ago, 376 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:04.359 whatever it was, and you know, there hadn't been an athlete from the 377 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:08.359 high school ranks of in any sport that got that level of notoriety. I 378 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:12.119 mean it was unbelievable. And this day and age, I would feel like, 379 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:18.319 you know, if if the hype machine and the news cycle was now 380 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.079 what it was, if it was if it was the same way now as 381 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.480 it was back then, I don't think he would have been able to Cause, 382 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:29.799 again, we have everybody's got access to the inn and on their phone 383 00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:32.400 now, right That wasn't the case back when Lebron was coming up, So 384 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:34.599 there would just be so much more hype around him. I think it would 385 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.480 have been impossible for him to meet those expectations. But you know, a 386 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.799 different time and again I think he's been I mean the fact that he now 387 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:47.359 has what is it for NBA Championships, I mean, he's still playing at 388 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:51.079 an insanely high level at this age. But you know, the one thing 389 00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:53.440 that's always made me just kind of feel like, you know, I can't 390 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.160 do it. Man. I want to defend you to people who knock you. 391 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:00.960 I want to, you know, be able to say I was somewhat 392 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.160 of a fan when I watched your entire career because you know, he's I 393 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.119 didn't watch Jordan in the NBA, right, I was too young. Lebron's 394 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:11.079 gonna be the all time great. Kobe's up there too, but like Lebron 395 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:14.519 is a better all time player, and Lebron, I mean, he's he's 396 00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:21.240 a legend. But if I've been annoyed and like just you know, bothered 397 00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:25.079 and just done with Lebron doing things before, it's gonna be really bad with 398 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.200 his son. And I should have seen this coming. I guess we all 399 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.599 knew it was coming, but to hear the way the Lakers, Bronni and 400 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.960 Lebron have like discussed this thing as if like that's a weird question, Like 401 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.599 do you think that? I mean, like they're acting as if people are 402 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.000 out of line to ask questions if he was drafted by the Lakers because his 403 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.839 dad is Lebron James. I mean, it's just I mean, it's and 404 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.640 again, don't treat us like idiots. There are a lot of idiots out 405 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:49.720 there on one of them, so you know, I'm an idiot, but 406 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:52.440 not that big of an idiot to just oh, oh you really you go. 407 00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:59.920 It's it's insulting, is what it is. So Bronni James was draft 408 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.920 did with the fifty fifty fifth pick. Fifty fifth pick, I think it 409 00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:11.279 was. I mean, double check here, because he signed a contract that 410 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:15.599 is fully guaranteed. And when you look at the other players that were drafted 411 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:21.640 at that exact same spot in previous drafts, I mean it's I mean it's 412 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:26.279 it's nepotism, Like it's it's because his father's Lebron James. And I'm saying 413 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:27.799 that as if, like can you believe it happened? But like, this 414 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:32.599 is something that's avoidable if you were worried and you had any awareness or cared 415 00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:37.039 at all about making it clear that you're you're gonna have to earn what you 416 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.160 get. And I don't mean brownie, he's not in charge of who gets 417 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.680 him a contract. But like this is proof that they think we're bigger idiots 418 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:49.240 than we really are, because they want us to think that this seven point 419 00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:56.480 nine four year, seven point nine million, four years guaranteed is like because 420 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.240 of something he's done and proven and earned, Like it's just not Yeah, 421 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:04.160 seven point nine million over four years and all of it is guaranteed. Does 422 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.000 he have a better deal than Dalton Connect? I don't know what he got. 423 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.920 Oh, he also was drafted. No, Dalton Connect will have more 424 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:17.000 of a Dalton Connect's bigger contract will be will be bigger just because of it's 425 00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:18.559 slotted at that rate, you know what I'm saying. Like when year that 426 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.640 early in the draft, which he fell just out of the lottery, so 427 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:23.160 he did miss out on some money, But no, just by the fact, 428 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.359 just because it's by the way, second round picks are not guaranteed for 429 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.119 anybody. He got a four year, fully guaranteed deal, Brownie James did. 430 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:32.720 So that's why it's so important to go in the first round because you 431 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:36.440 get guaranteed money. Now, the life changing money for you probably really comes 432 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.960 whenever you can get that second contract. But four years, seven point nine 433 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:47.680 million, I mean, let me give you the previous three draft picks that 434 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:52.319 were taken at that same at that same slot. Last year, it was 435 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.599 Isaiah Wong who played at Miami. Really good player, right acc Player of 436 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:02.839 the Year. He went to a Final four. He was the fifty fifth 437 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:08.400 pick by my Indiana Pacers. And his contract was a two way. Yeah, 438 00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.799 it was a two way contract, not even like a I mean, 439 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:12.799 it was a two way deal where of course he's going to spend a lot 440 00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:18.599 of time on a two way contract in the G League. But it was 441 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.599 for one year, five hundred and fifty nine thousand dollars in some change. 442 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:30.519 I mean, and everybody else other than one player in the last four years 443 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:36.039 at that spot all got two way contracts because that's what typically happens now with 444 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.359 those picks that late in the draft. You know, they've invested in you 445 00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.079 a little bit more than they invest in guys that they signed to come on 446 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:48.359 and you know, try to make their team in camp. And Bronnie got 447 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:55.039 a guarantee of multiple millions of dollars. And it's just and I don't know 448 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:56.839 why I care, right, you know, he didn't need money. It's 449 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.279 not like I'm thinking, you know, he could play in the NBA for 450 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.279 ten years and not collect a diyme from the NBA as far as a salary 451 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.400 and still never need money. I mean, his father's a billionaire. I 452 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.599 mean, so it's not like I, you know, even if I didn't 453 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:11.720 like it, because I feel like he didn't deserve any money. He's gonna 454 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:17.480 always have money. It's not about that. But I just I can appreciate 455 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.599 those that read the room, understand the situation and don't try to just you 456 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:27.960 know, insult people. Not verbally, right, not with an actual insult, 457 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.960 But it is insulting to assume that anybody with a brain would hear and 458 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.200 see the nonsense of this entire situation and think that it's anything other than what 459 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:40.440 it is. I don't think it's crazy to think that they'll wheel him out 460 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.240 in the starting lineup either at this point, even if he doesn't deserve it. 461 00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:45.440 I mean, you wouldn't. I mean, I wouldn't put it past 462 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.359 him. I mean again, like it's a conflict of interest. Like Lebron 463 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.279 James does not have the ability to be biased in this situation. He can 464 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:53.799 say that he does, but he doesn't. Just like me, you know, 465 00:30:55.039 --> 00:31:00.359 I mean, if I if I'm coaching my son, like I'll be 466 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.480 honest with you, I don't want to coach my son at high level sports, 467 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:03.160 which I don't think I will, because I'm not a coach, but 468 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.519 it would be difficult because I would I would overthink it because I would, 469 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.400 I would probably do my son a disservice because I would always be in the 470 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.119 back of my mind thinking that it's going to look bad if I started him, 471 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:15.079 it's gonna look bad if I run a play for him to get the 472 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:19.759 last shot. Lebron's not worried about any of that, clearly, I mean, 473 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:23.039 and now I can. I think it's even more clear now why Dane 474 00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:29.119 Hurley wasn't that interesting the Lakers. Oh God, I'm I don't think that's 475 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:37.559 crazy at all. And there's no think like, there's no scenario that Lebron 476 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.680 James did not have influence and say so in the contract that his son got. 477 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:47.759 There's no way, no way, because it's one thing to just draft 478 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.119 him because his dad's on the team and his dad as Lebron James, but 479 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.319 you know, to to give him that deal like that, it's not in 480 00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.960 any way typical for anybody to get that kind of a contract for any team 481 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.079 that is drafted in that spot, and this kid got it. Any averaged 482 00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.079 five points a game last year and shot less than twenty percent from three like 483 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:13.559 it's just insulting. Yeah, two way contract in twenty twenty one for Aaron 484 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:15.920 Wiggins of OKC, there was a foreign guy who did not get a two 485 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.680 way contract, which I think that's pretty rare for those guys to get a 486 00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:25.480 two way contract because they they usually if they if they're on a two way 487 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.599 and they're making the two way money, which is like seventy Yes, this 488 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.519 guy gold Santo's for Golden State, was that pick in twenty twenty two, 489 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:38.240 and he had a seventy five thousand dollars guarantee on the contract. And clearly 490 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:43.359 he probably will, you know, go make more money playing in another country 491 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.000 where he's from, I would assume. But yeah, Isaiah Loong two way 492 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:49.359 contract. Again, two way contracts, very little of it's guaranteed. In 493 00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.000 fact, sometimes nothing is guaranteed on a two way contract. Ronnie James seven 494 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.519 point nine million. I will correct myself, not all of it is guaranteed, 495 00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:58.720 but four point four million of it is guaranteed, which is still a 496 00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:02.440 lot of money. And here's the thing, it'd be different if he was 497 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:10.319 good. He's not right. I mean this may sound crazy, but anything 498 00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:15.759 with the James family, apparently you can. Nothing's unbelievable. What if he 499 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:22.079 purposefully I'm talking about Brownie purposefully underperformed so it would be easier for the Lakers 500 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.599 to pick him later on in the draft and he ends up being better than 501 00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.599 he looked in college. I mean, I wouldn't. Nothing would shock me. 502 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.079 Nothing would shock me. And for what it's worth, like I just 503 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.400 mentioned his five points a game. If he was even that, it might 504 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.599 have been less than that. And you know, that's not a good look 505 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:46.119 for him. But in a way, his season at USC you don't throw 506 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:49.480 it away like dead matter what you saw. But like you know, he 507 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:57.279 he probably has a better chance to actually be productive in that system in the 508 00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.519 NBA, especially because his dad's looking out for But like at USC, he 509 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:05.440 he didn't play for a long time because he had that cardiac issue that kept 510 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.920 him out. They eased him back in and USC to be fair, I 511 00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:14.960 mean one of the reasons that that that Andy Enfield was looking to get the 512 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:19.199 hell out of USC is because things just got really really sour between him and 513 00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:23.599 the administration and the athletic department, because he did not want to take Ronnie 514 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.039 James because of everything that comes with it. That was a big talking point 515 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.280 when Bronie was recruit right, We had the conversation I think on the show 516 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:34.199 John like before we committed, like from going to like the Overtime Elite or 517 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.079 something. Yeah, yeah, that and and or going to Ohio State because 518 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.679 Lebron's of course big Ohio State fan, being from Ohio. And then when 519 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:45.800 he's gonna transfer, they talked about him going to transfer to Dekane And you 520 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:51.559 remember why, It's because one of Lebron's former high school coaches was Ducane's coach 521 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.360 and like that, you know, and and Bronnie would probably do much better 522 00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.599 at that level, you know what I mean. So Andy Infield did not 523 00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.760 want to draft Bronnie James for obvious reasons, I mean, because there's so 524 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:02.880 much that comes with it, and he was kind of forced to do it, 525 00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:06.159 so they did and it just became it. So there's a chance that 526 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:07.880 maybe Andy Enfield, like you know, like, hey, he's thained himself. 527 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.760 Look, I'm getting out here when I can. They're gonna fire me. 528 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.199 I'm gonna leave, and this kid ain't good to play here, so 529 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.639 I'm not going to play him. So you know, he should ignore how 530 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.800 ineffective he was in one year at USC. But you know, it may 531 00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.239 not tell the end because I don't think he's He's gifted physically, he can 532 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.960 jump out of the gym. He's built like he's been in the weight room 533 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:30.760 since birth. He's a really good defender, and he's eighteen years old. 534 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:31.920 So like you know, he could turn into being a good player. But 535 00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.119 his dad hadn't done him any favors in my opinion when it comes to the 536 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:37.760 perception of this entire thing. But then again, how can I say that 537 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.400 knowing that his dad did a huge favor because without his dad, he's not 538 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:46.239 drafted. So real quick, this is Browny James. Whenever, whenever he 539 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:50.079 was asked about, you know, potentially playing with his dad, which of 540 00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:53.039 course now he's going to You played one year at USC and joined the team, 541 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:58.039 you know after the season already began. What about the timing to come 542 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.800 into this year's draft compelled you to make that decision? And then how much 543 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:07.079 of a consideration was while my father is still an active player? For me, 544 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:12.079 you know, I always try to put that narrative of me trying to 545 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:16.280 get my name out for myself, but just coming in and trying to get 546 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:21.800 better. You know, Robb has told me that there's a great development system 547 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.280 here. So I just want to come in and get my work in and 548 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:30.280 get better every day. But I never really had a thought of, you 549 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.599 know, me going to play with my dad. But that's always you know, 550 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.239 there to you know, take part of. But it wasn't a main 551 00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:46.679 focus of minditor. I mean, he's a kid, but there's no scenario 552 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:52.039 even though he's a young kid, that he believes that anyone on planet Earth 553 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.119 believes that he never I never thought about going to play with my dad. 554 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:58.280 Like crazy, how it turned out? Like the hell out of here? 555 00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.039 Man? What if he was told to say that, he probably was like 556 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:06.519 that's what's cause again, like these people, I mean, no self awareness, 557 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:07.320 and I guess they don't need it, right, you know, they're 558 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.280 doing okay in life. All right, quick break, we'll come back on 559 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.559 the other side, wrap up the four o'clock hour. Keep it rolling along 560 00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:16.280 right here, Coffee and Company. Fulbeth Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. 561 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.599 You gotta be honest, I don't know this one. This is Billy Ray 562 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:23.559 Cyrus. I recognize the voice. I knew it was Billy Ray but I 563 00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:28.000 is this a hit. It's got ten million views on YouTube and it's a 564 00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:32.920 hit to me. He could sing, He's got a unique voice. I 565 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.760 like Billy Ray Cyrus, but man, he's a good example of somebody that, 566 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.360 you know, when you have the type of hit that he had that 567 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:43.880 really made him famous. Ach you break you Heart. It's still to this 568 00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:47.119 day, many many many years later. You know, all people think about 569 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:51.000 or they think about his daughter, who's become, you know, a bigger 570 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.119 star than he was. Is that fair to say? I mean, I 571 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:57.119 know you weren't around, definitely more in the mainstream. I feel like, 572 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:01.119 yeah, you weren't alive whenever he was, you know, I mean, 573 00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:06.679 you weren't allowed for the a era, a television you know, kids television 574 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:10.079 star either that she was was. He was mainstream there for a little while, 575 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.280 you know, not to the point that she ever has been. But 576 00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:19.079 uh yeah he he's also from Kentucky, flat Woods, Kentucky. Yeah, 577 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:25.840 Billy Ray Cyrus. Uh, I remember the uh the yeah. So this 578 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.840 this is a little bit misleading, but I remember whenever he jumped on Little 579 00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:37.519 nas X's song the uh yeah uh that ended up that ended up becoming at 580 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:42.039 that time the most streamed song in the history of the Internet. And uh 581 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:47.400 it, you know, it surpassed anything he'd ever done musically, including because 582 00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:52.320 he's on that he's I mean, he's that's part of his song and that 583 00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.000 means that wild How that came together is how this dude's on the internet? 584 00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:59.480 What was he on Twitch or something or was it was it TikTok? I 585 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.440 think that is it the very beginning of TikTok. Yeah, like he was 586 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:06.639 just he was not an acting practice, he wasn't a musician. He was 587 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.039 just kind of messing around, you know, creating stuff for the Internet. 588 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:14.920 And that Old Town Road song, I mean it's almost like he's probably, 589 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:16.440 like, to be honest with you, he's probably making fun of country music. 590 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:22.679 Yeah, that's kind of And then you know it became like the most 591 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.280 shared sound within the TikTok world or one of the platforms. I think it 592 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:30.360 was TikTok and then of course you know that became little nas X. He's 593 00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.920 a little different, but you know he's had some big hits, no doubt. 594 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.519 But when Billy Ray Sowers jumped on that was and it's so corny, 595 00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:43.079 but like it in a way. It's also kind of wholesome how it all 596 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:47.719 came together because if you remember a little nas X that that song Old Town 597 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.199 Road, it became like it was. It was all over the radio, 598 00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.840 right, Yes, it started to jump up the charts and country and it 599 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.880 was a big deal because people were saying, no, that's not country, 600 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.920 Like you can't say that that's country. It's not country. And it became 601 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:05.440 a big deal from I guess the country music world that like, we're not 602 00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:08.280 this is not accept that his country music, whatever the criteria is, this 603 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:14.400 is not it. And Billy ray Cyrus reached out to him basically saying, 604 00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.800 you know, hey, look, same thing happened to me. Brother. 605 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.039 I did a song a little different than what you were hearing from you know, 606 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:27.199 Marty Stewart and Alan Jackson. I did a song called Achy Breaky Heart 607 00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:31.280 that really made country music uncomfortable. And you know, he's like, I 608 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:34.719 can relate, we'll do this together, and it worked out. I don't 609 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.840 know if he was, you know, being self serving, because again that 610 00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.800 that gave benefited him clearly. Yeah, but that is it is a similar 611 00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:45.599 thing, like, yeah, I don't know, this is why these shows 612 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.280 are just weird on days like this because I never expected us to be here, 613 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:52.400 but here we are. There was one award show where like, do 614 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.360 you know the song here's a quarter called someone who Cares? About Travis Trittyes, 615 00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:59.639 Travis Trip is really outspoken. He still isn't now about a lot of 616 00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:02.960 things politics, but Travis Tripp was really outspoken about being anti Like, we 617 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.880 cannot let Billy Cyrus be considered country. Look at him, he's a you 618 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:08.880 know, he's a freak show. Ach you breaking heart is not country. 619 00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:15.199 Well, Billy Ray Cyrus won an award and walked up to accept it and 620 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:16.920 at you know, the podium or whatever it was in front of the mic, 621 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.440 took out a quarter and slammed it down and said, here's a quarter 622 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.400 called someone who Cares. Oh you never heard that. That's it's on the 623 00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:30.400 internet. Like that was real, not manufactured for for for you know, 624 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.119 entertainment. That was a real country music beef. Usually it's just wrap you 625 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.360 get beef in right. Yeah, you didn't know that some some rock some 626 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.199 sometimes stupid I did not know that was uh oh yeah, here's a quarter 627 00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:43.639 call someone who Cares. I mean it was quite clear of what he was 628 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.320 talking about like it was. It was spicy. Yeah, all right, 629 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:50.280 we we got one more hour to go. We'll finish strong. I mean, 630 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.119 it's Friday to most of us, feels like a Friday to me. 631 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.239 So we're gonna try to have some fun here and get you set for a 632 00:41:55.280 --> 00:42:00.519 fourth of July holiday and hopefully a long weekend. So don't go anywhere, 633 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:02.480 and I mean it, stay put right here, keep it locked on Sports 634 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:04.280 Talk seven ninety