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Everyone. It's Tuesday, September twentieth, twenty eleven, and you were listening

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to the Giant BombCast. Oh my
microphone fell away from bringing it back.

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I'm Ryan Davis Videy. Caravelle is
in the house. Jeff Grismond's in the

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house. In the house, Brad
Schewemaker's in the house. How do you

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feel about being house bound? Warm
in this house? I thought he said

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it was okay, it wasn't.
Pretty good? Pretty good, It's good.

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It's pretty good. I enjoy this, this pregame show that we have

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going on lately. It's actually pretty
awesome, little little warm up. The

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only problem is that, in fact, those warm up every everything. Yeah

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yeah, warming up the crowd,
you know, sure, getting ourselves warmed

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up. Vinny Caravella, how you
doing? It's Gears day you guys.

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Also, I called in sick because
the e day. No, it wasn't

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day. It was the first one. They never forget your emergence day.

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Yeah, years Tuesday. I don't
know what what can you do for man?

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Brothers to the End Tuesday, Great
bros day. Man. I just

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finished Brothers to the End last night. I talked about that later. I

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haven't touched Vine if you have you
touched Gears yet, I know my copies

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should be here today though, today's
day. Yeah, she was talking about

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it. I did get my my
sweet code from Amazon though, for buying

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through them. So would you get
player? Dude? Yeah? Did you

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get your twenty dollars? Also,
dude, I did that kind of awesome?

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Yeah you got that all right?
So bought Gears or pre ordered Gears

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three and you get a twenty dollar
like Amazon gift thing for doing that,

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and it applies immediately, so it
actually it didn't even ask you, it

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just did it. Yeah. It
was just like and I looked through my

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through my history because I thought like, oh maybe I just had one sitting

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in there, and I definitely didn't. So just like they were just like

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stealth selling Gears for forty bucks.
Yeah, so I bought Gears for forty

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bucks and I was able to use
like credit card points, so I paid

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like seven bucks for Gears three out
of pocket. So and then they gave

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me the free multiplayer skin and I
got the iced t skin. Thanks for

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Facebook, Facebook, And I don't
want to spy on this game. Yeah,

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but I think it's worth seven dollars. I don't know, man,

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I'll be a judge of Facebook and
get the iced t skin. There's a

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Facebook, Yeah, there's like I
like this page to get Xbox code for

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iced tea universal single use, single
use. But they generate them. So

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it's just okay, go there and
like it and and then and like it

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after you get the code as fast
as you could, just make a Facebook

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account and go do that. You
have a Facebook account't want to. I

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don't want to log into Facebook.
I think I might actually have an extra

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code that someone sent me that they
went did with their fake bab So I'll

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just I'll just that's the that's how. That's my next assignment for the farm

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bill thing is to take that Facebook
account that Steve has and just get me

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a code, and then I'm pulling
out a farm bill. So I pose

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this question to Jeff this morning.
I want I would would Brad Vanne,

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what you guys think what percentage of
the Gears of War audience do you think

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understands the significance of the Gears cog
word play ballpark eighty. It's pretty explicit,

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right they called They called them cogs
constantly, don't they right? But

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understanding that like the coalition of organized
governments. What cog means other than that

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God may aim overestimating. I mean
it's right there. Yeah, like it's

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the visual symbolism is everywhere assumes that
you know what a cog is. I

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guess, and I just don't people
know what a cog is. I don't

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really. They never watched the jets
and people people that listen to this,

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what that'sprockets and cogs? Okay,
fair enough, jeez, everybody sprockets and

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costs. That's who they're fighting.
Spacely's gone mad. I don't know.

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I would think I'm a vast majority. I don't think people people listening to

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this, I I you know,
enthusias, crowd whatever like that's different.

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But I think of how many people
play gears. Yeah, that's very popular,

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and you know how borderline. You
don't necessarily hear people talking about cogs

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a lot of lately, not really
a term that it gets tossed around a

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lot. They do, they do
use the term gears in the game to

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refer to themselves. Yeah, they
do, especially as they're moving around dealing

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with these different fashions. But maybe
they'll trust them so much and they're all

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markets all we're gears. Come on, yeah, yeah, actually don't cogs.

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Cogs and gears are separate things.
Yeah, I actually don't even know

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what the relation is when you when
you join the cog, you become a

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gear. But it can what is
a cause the coalition of organizing but like

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in reality organized government government? Uh
maybe it is? Yeah, like is

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a cog of gear? I don't
even know what a cog does, but

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there's only one cog? Is a
cog just like a sprocket. Are we

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talking about like we're not talking about
talking about talking about industrial mechanics than sure.

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I don't even know what it actually
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nickname in this room? Barely know? We know? Yeah, there's some

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sort of connection gears. I understand
there's word we know. We know that

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it's metal and vaguely circular with with
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Yeah, I think that's I know. I think it's something like the

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rod that thee Where do flywheels come
into all this? I know that the

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cogs kind of gear. Okay,
oiled with the blood of the gears of

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war? How about that? Done? All right? I was just thinking

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about the name Gears of War.
And how long you look at something like

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that, you think, like they
didn't just spring fully formed out of someone

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like there is a huge long list
like all right, we're gonna make this

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new game. We have these ideas
like all just like the iterative stuff that

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they were talking about before Gears came
out of like darkness, and like you

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saw character designs before they had fiction
or characters or anything like. I mean

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they shoved the brumac out there as
like the tech demo for Unreal eng and

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three. Right, it's like way
back when and that was like here,

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we made this whole thing. Yeah, like before the Gears of War was

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a thing. So yeah, I
wonder what the I would I would love

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to be in any game developer when
they go through that process. But what

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are we going to call this game? And like at what point for various

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franchises did they have like all right, we know what the name of this

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is, space Fighters? All right, all right, nobody's trademarked Gears of

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War. All right, let's figure
out what a gear. Let's put a

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pin in that one for now gear. Yeah, and then you are you

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working backwards on the fiction from there? Well, I mean you know,

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trademark dispute being what it is,
you don't want a trenched situation on your

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hands. I guess not probably a
logical place to start. So, Brad,

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you think Gears of War three is
worth seven dollars? Jeff, I

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feel like we know your your thoughts
on Gears of War. You didn't really

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talk about it last week. Yeah, you couldn't. Those I would go

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so farst say it's worth sixty dollars. That's a lot more than seven,

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don neating money to these people.
Well, you know, no, I'm

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not saying buy the weapon skins.
That's what's that worth. Don't buy the

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weapon skins. Okay, not even
my time, Yeah, not even that

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undulating rainbow skin. Yeah, not
even really. That's it's like three bucks,

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four bucks whatever it actually is.
That's a lot of money. So

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do they sell like an all pack? Yeah, and that's fifty bucks.

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That's was that forty five? I
think it was thirty six hundred points whatever

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that? Yeah? Does that come
with like any bundle that's like Madman Bundle

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for four hundred dollars, get all
the codes nothing. Well, there's a

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separate season pass, yeah, the
past that gets you for the next four

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pieces of DLC. Uh, there's
be some campaign DLC as well some multiplayer

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stuff, but they've not been explicit
about what any and that's gonna be repe

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And you get an exclusive weapons skin
with that one too, that's not as

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part of that doesn't is not part
of the other pack, but as of

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now, that's all you get for
buying them. But we don't even we

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don't even know if that's gonna be
like single player dealc. It's gonna be

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both maps. Yeah, there's definitely
a campaign or some kind of single player

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at on, but they've so they've
said something broadly about what that stuff's gonna

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be. And there's a fat thing
in the single player in you that says

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coming soon, got it? So
do you think it's the same audience that

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wants campaign stuff and new multiplayer maps? Like how many people went out to

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midnight launch and bought that game and
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and like never gonna touch the campaign
That that always fascinates me. Yeah,

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Yeah, I suspect that people will
go back and play the campaign at some

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point. You know, they probably
did get home midnight and start playing multiplayer,

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but before it got hard probably the
majority will, but I mean there's

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always people for every Every hardcore competitive
game has that subset of the audience.

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Right, Norman Chan has never played
the StarCraft campaign. He just plays multiplayer,

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that's it. But I think I
think there's more, like you know,

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Call of Duty and Modern Warfare.
That's the classic example of like people

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literally have never touched the single player
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little more crossover in the Gears audience. Yeah, And I think that's it's

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kind of a quality thing too.
I think the Gears campaign they spend a

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lot more time on it is longer
than the Call of Duty campaign. Like

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Call Duty campaign, you wouldn't be
faulted for looking at it and going like,

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yeah, they put this together specifically
so they could have like a bullet

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point to put alongside. You know, there's multiplayer. Not to say it's

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bad, but you know, it's
it's it's clearly right. I understand why

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some people would not play the campaign
that one. When it comes to Gears,

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it's like, come on, that's
that's It's one of the much bigger

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part. One of the reasons why
I've moved more towards kind of renting or

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borrowing the Call of Duty games because
I'm not gonna play the multiplayer competitively,

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right and still buying, like Gears
of War said, at least I hope

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there's still single player value in that
way. You know, Gears It's a

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great job of being kind of all
things to all people and in a lot

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of ways because it does have you
know, the single player campaign and the

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arcade mode that you could play back
through the campaign that way if you like,

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and also the co op stuff.
You know, it's like the competitive

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multiplayer is out numbered, right in
a way. Yeah, squee it out.

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Sure, I don't want to get
those competitive fools out of here.

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So that call out that's fully integrated, right yeah. So four players,

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yeah, four players through the campaign
like you know, cut scenes all that

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stuff, and and arcade mode is
the same deal. It's just it draws

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numbers on the screen when you kill
dudes? Is that basically the only difference,

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because I mean you're getting points in
the background even when you play standard.

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You can enable mutator the mutators also, so and some of those like

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buff the point values, right yeah, or harm them. I mean,

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if you you can make it easier
or hard, like an infant an amo,

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mutatory stuff like that, But unlocking
those requires you to play so much

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goddamn Gears of War. It's it's
not just like skulls, hey, no,

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you don't just find them. It's
you have to meet specific in game

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tasks like get two hundred kills with
a rich in Beast mode, and you

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know, it's like stuff like just
it's not it's gonna take some time,

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which is unfortunate because the mutators seem
kind of cool. I understand some of

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the you know, like the laugh
track one, probably makes sense that it's

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not easy to unlock, because that's
crazy. What's it's just laughs every time?

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Wow? I don't know, because
studio audience, Yeah, you've not

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unlocked that played way more than even
I have played, and I've played kind

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of a lot of that game at
this point, so upwards of forty five

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minutes of Gears a War. That's
right, where's my lap track? Game

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sucks? Yeah, I don't know. I think the game is awesome.

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I think the story is really well
done. You're you're you have you have

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not finished it about halfway through act
four? Okay, just met Ica all

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right? Yeah, yeah, he
does well, announces his presence. Yes,

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in a very prominent fashion. What's
his game name, Griffin Aaron,

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Yeah, CEO of like a fuel
company. Yeah. The Facebook page for

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when I got the skin gave a
little brief character description, and I'm like,

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I didn't know anything about this going
in, and this all sounds like

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the Gears fiction is going in some
really crazy Yeah, he kind of hands

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it up a little bit, he
does. Yeah, maybe more than a

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little bit, maybe more than most. He lets more than one motherfucker fly.

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They let the let ice tea explore
the space. I believe his character

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has a cane that he walks around
with ice. Just whereever you feel like

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a motherfucker is appropriate, go ahead, and just you gonna throw those in

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there, and yeah, we'll find
the balance, all right. So it's

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whatever you're ready, guys, motherfuck
yeah, just yeah, pretty much,

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We're not going to use any of
this, right. He basically like his

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his exit is him like riding away
giving a middle finger to like he refers

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to Anya as bitch. Yeah to
her face, it's uh, yeah,

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it's it's it is outlandish in the
context of the rest of that story,

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but you know it works well enough. They hired Iced Tea to play ice

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they play Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, like, what the

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fuck are you gonna tell Ice teac
boot like your Cliff Blazinski. You get

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in there with Ice Tea, someone
you have grown up listening to and obeying.

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All right, I as I have
you know, what do you say,

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no, Iced Tea? I just
don't think you've got it? Like

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no, well really I think the
character would want to say this will do

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it just alright. I think the
only advice you'll higher Ice Tea unless you

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want Ice T to be ic T. I mean that's the thing, that's

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the only note you can give him
is could you be a little more Iced

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Tea? Well? They plays a
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he actually is is a capable actor. I'm not saying he is a

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bad actor, but in this context
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works. And then you know that
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role in multiplayer where all of his
dialogue is insane and kind of fourth Wally

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a little bit. Yeah, d
who they have? They had some celebrities

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in two, didn't they was Ice
Cuban two? No? No, you're

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thinking, man, I thought they
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name and the guy who played Bender
on Futurama in all of the Gears of

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Wars. You may know him as
Steve from I do know him from there,

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you do, uh this game,
he sounds a little more bendery in

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Gears three. Also, it's kind
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know, it's a tonal shift for
the story. It's not the gruff,

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fist bump type stuff that it necessarily
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Marcus down a notch, it just
sounds like that. So that's a little

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weird. If he's not yelling battle
cries, you think just Seanda Maggio just

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sounds like that's that's facto. Yeah, I guess. So You're totally right

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about that campaign though. Where I'm
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this game is dramatically better than Gears
Too. And you had just finished Gears

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Too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I left off Gears Too because

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I played through it on hardcore and
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but you you'd finished Gears Too.
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thing. I guess you just got
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end the act four and then yeah, just put it down. I don't

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know what whatever. I just never
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games. Games of that games kind
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it is pretty hard. So I
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hardcore because you said too. Yeah, and it's a way more pleasant experience,

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Like it's it's definitely taxing, but
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the way the two guys and playing
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different game. Yeah, I watched
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seems like you just don't even have
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up onto is this guy soak up
like too many bullets where you're just like

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sitting behind cover unloading clip. It
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this somewhere. I don't know if
this is accurate or not, but somebody

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was saying that you down enemies faster
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I don't know if that's true,
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always my problem with the other ones
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you're emptying, you're running out of
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like literally like, oh, come
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of that comes from their animation system, and the enemies just don't flinch that

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much when you're shooting them, Like
they continue in whatever animation they're in as

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you're pumping bullets into them, and
you don't feel like sense that they are

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taking damage. I just I would
hate. I just did not like emptying

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like a full clip into a guy
and sitting there like reloading. And then

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every time that doesn't happen, even
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if you're aiming properly, like like
shoot boomers in the head, you

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know, like that's and and unload
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go down. Always it always seems
like there was like normal and past years,

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like there is a specific balance of
like we know that it's going to

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take you a full clip from the
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like that was like a specific choice
to make it take that much damage before

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you could just so that your reload
timing would require you to actually use cover

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things like that. Yeah. Yeah, it's all all, it all ties

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together. It's I want to say, it's it's not each enemy takes so

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much damage now, it's that there
are more of them. Yeah. I

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don't know if that's accurate or not. It feels like there are more environments.

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I mean, you have like a
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frequently this time, and it feels
like the areas are bigger. That's what

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they're always talking about, Like the
cliff always talking about leading up to was

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that, Yeah, would a wider
path. Yeah, that's and that's partially

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because we're gonna do this four player
multiplayer or four player co op. You

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got to have that room that sometimes, I mean, and you know,

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sometimes you have more than four people
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you know, some guys and stuff. So so, Brad, did you

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like just finished Gears two over the
weekends? Yeah, late last week sometimes,

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through the last act of Gears too,

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just just to see how it wrapped
up. The ending was kind of

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well flat, I remember the very
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leading up to the end. Yeah, it's also pretty good. I feel

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like the last minute or two is
good set up for the next game.

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It's a little dark and a little
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you're you're right, like the stuff
that like happens at the end of the

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game is all of a sudden just
kind of like what the like, yeah,

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this is you guys are adding a
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yes and no. I don't I
don't know. I feel like I

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remember distinctly feeling after finishing Gears Too, basically in one sitting, going like

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like nothing really happened. Like they
started out shit was bad, and now

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it's like shit is still bad.
It's bad and maybe a different way.

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But you know, it was definitely
very second acty, like well, definitely

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the second act of like bad gone
from bad to worse. Yeah. But

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but but I thought they started adding
in. It was the they started making

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it more of a trilogy than the
first one was very standalone. And then

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the second one they're like, Okay, we're gonna make the we know where

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this goes. Let's add in these
which flesh out these other cap characters,

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add in some more factions, let's
make this universe a little bit broader.

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I don't know, man, rust
Lung, Sure, that's all right,

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it's right there. We can we
have time to explore this now. I

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mean, what was the what was
the checkpoint list, like they introduced the

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concept of the Lambent. Yes,
well it's it's every it's every kind of

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uh, look at every single shooter
and kind of action thing that has spawned

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a franchise. Right, you have
your first one where you I fight Ryan,

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Right, and then okay, this
is this worked out this sold Ryan

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was a really good opponent, but
we beat him in the first one.

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So now maybe Ryan has a common
enemy that's Brad. So I'm gonna team

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on no no, no, no
no, I come back stronger in the

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sequel, and then we fight through
the sequel. And during the sequel,

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this third party is introduced into the
mixing, and everyone's like, what is

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the Brads? And then you get
to the third and then you get to

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the third one, it's like,
oh wait, the Brads are really bad.

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The Viney's in the Ryan. I
feel like it usually happens in the

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second one, where like you and
I, let's team up. Let's put

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a side our differences and take on
the Brads because they're you and I are

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fighting for something, but they're gonna
just Brad's gonna destroy the world. So

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that's more important than whatever you and
I were fighting for. So that's like,

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but that's like like, but then
that's part three. Part three.

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Is that Part three is usually like, yes, now I should come out

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and say the Gears of War three
is not that. Yeah, for the

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rest, two seems like it was
going there. So two definitely seemed like,

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Okay, you know what I'm gonna
I'm gonna come to more of an

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understanding of Ryan and understand his problems. You know, we were fighting,

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but they were probably fighting for something. And the first one, it's never

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just it gives nothing away to say
that in Gears of War three everyone wants

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to kill everyone. Yes, that's
how it is. All right, Well,

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give me, give me back up
to speed. Remind me of the

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events of the end of Gears two, because I mean I remember they sink

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that fucking city that like, that
was the stuff that The big thing the

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stuff is six out is that by
the end of that game, they have

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introduced the Lambents, they have sunk
the last human city, and you,

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the player knows that Adam Phoenix is
still alive, although nobody in the universe

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think but I think someone in the
universe does know that, but you don't

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know that. I think even bigger
than that you the Lambent being the kind

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of spinoff from the locusts. Who
do you realize that the locusts have bigger

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problems than just you, that they
have this kind of civil war gun right,

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so and yours too. As far
as I remember, lambit are basically

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just glowing locusts, like they basically
function, and they explode, but that's

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about it. And they also make
three here's three. You you are made

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to understand what the Lambent, what
Lambent Sea really is, and it's fucking

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crazy. They go crazy with the
enemy, like the lamb that are not

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just glowing locusts with guns anymore,
like things they explode. No, it's

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it's way beyond them. Now they
mutate into crazy shit and grow weird arms

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and then you shoot the arms off
and then they explode totally different. So

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at the end you fight that giant
thing in two. Remember how crazy that

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thing got with the mutations, Like
imagine if all the Lambent stuff like that,

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it's the city is thinking, like
all that stuff is off. That

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stuff was good. You're right with
that last ten or fifteen minutes, remember

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now shooting the helicopter or something,
right, I mean blow yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, that's what I
feel like it's spoiling anything to say

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that, Like, you know,
going underground not a big part of the

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game. That's good. I spent
a lot of time underground. It's summer,

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you know, like all this stuff
they've been saying about it's summer time

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and you can see exposed arms and
like nice weather. Like it actually gets

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exactly in more ways than one.
It's like just Lamb and Rich on a

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beach, just rubbing on sunscreen.
I'm gonna blow up if I stay out

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here. I do understand these guys
better, now, Yeah, Uh,

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that's you know what I mean.
That is actually what really sticks out to

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me is that you do actually understand
the characters in this game finally, well

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just from just from the multiplayer.
I mean, I don't know if it's

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spoiled much, but when we're playing
the multiplayer beta, you could see the

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different classes and one of them being
a talking Locus queen. Uh kind of

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sets up a situation where Okay,
at least there's gonna be some avenue of

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communication now with the Locus, but
seeing her as a multiplayer character like kind

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of crazy. Well yeah, but
also it's like, okay, obviously now

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since she can verbalize and talk,
you have now put a face in a

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kind of voice to the enemy,
so they can be like, hey,

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let me let me tell you why
we're killing you, instead of the first

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one where it's just you know,
just killing on. Yeah, yeah,

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these are Covenant bad guys. She's
introduced the Queen. It just it comes

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very jerky to me. I think
once you introduce it, I want to

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she has a human face. I
want to know what the fuck? Yeah,

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why is she a human or just
why does she appear to different?

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That's a fantastic question. I know
I'm gonna be really upset if they don't

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answer that question. So Locus have
very good clastic surgery, and it's a

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kind of you know, it's a
weird elite thing where they just want human

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face. It's really gross. Actually, they graft human faces onto them.

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That's why they want to kill everybody. Yes, they just want their faces.

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I don't know. The storytelling feels
a lot more direct and effective as

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a result, Like, yeah,
there's a coherence to it the first two

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games. Last it seems like there's
care given to the characters themselves, which

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is not just Marcus, like,
not just domb you know, it's like

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the stuff with coal I thought was
cool. Yeah, there's like a really

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good cold moment in the first act. So I guess the big question for

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me is does it feel like the
end of a trilogy or the absolutely Yeah.

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The best part about this game is
that there's closure, right, so

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it doesn't feel like you're waiting for
gas the end. No. No,

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I mean there are things that they
leave unanswered in this game. There there

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there are things that I wish I
knew more about, and I almost wonder

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if there will be a book or
something that explains that seem in the just

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forgot it really because it's it's stuff
that wouldn't necessarily lead to another trilogy of

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games. It's more like, but
at the end of this like things have

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happened, situations get resolved, to
trilogy. There you go. That was

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the Gears trilogy. To go anywhere
from here, you know, probably have

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different stories, new characters, different
stories in this universe, different types of

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games in this universe, or you
know, like whatever it ends up being.

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But that is the story of Young
Yeah. I could see like you

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know, Gears, Gears of War, Colon the Pendulum Wars and just have

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it be you Fight the Pendulum Wars. I just wonder like what does because

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it sounds like, you know,
Epic is done with this at least for

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a little bit here. I wonder
like what that is not the same organization

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that it was before they started making
these Gears games, Like, I wonder

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what their focus is as a developer
now that this is, you know,

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wrapped and done. I think it's
it's Unreal Engine four and turning that tech

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demo that they put out front Real
Enge four into a game fix. Samaritan

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is the next game. I mean, it makes sense like that they didn't

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make that Brumac for nothing. You
know, they didn't put all that artists

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never waste any of those assets,
Like they're not going to put that much

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effort in the making art for something. It's going to go out as a

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tech demo on that Bruma is going
to be in four, and you're gonna

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be able to look around it,
look under the hood and check it out.

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I want to see the inside of
you look underneath it. Definitely don't

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want to look underneath the broom,
pull up the cloth and then there's you

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know, there's a very nice British
lady to tell you about what's under the

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line cloth four point three, Liita
Sack, I still can't talk about Fortsa.

406
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:22.519
No, not until Friday. I
honestly don't have that much to say

407
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.880
about it. Okay, the things, the things you already know about Fortsa

408
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:30.920
continue to Are you suggesting this is
the fourth Fortsa game? Yeah? Fourth.

409
00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:37.559
I am extremely excited to play that
game when it is released four za.

410
00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:41.960
Microsoft Lawyer is coming down this office
right now. I would have said

411
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.680
that before going and playing it.
It's not h No, I'm excited to

412
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.359
get into it. I'm totally excited
to play some damned Gears three. I

413
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:56.079
don't know how they managed to get
me hooked on more the narrative stuff than

414
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.240
the gameplay stuff, but somehow they
did. It's shocking to me that it's

415
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:03.119
as as much better as it is, because I thought that was really the

416
00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:06.240
weak spot of the first two games
was a narrative, like it was a

417
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:10.240
little bit nonsensical and the characters were
super one interesting universe, but you know,

418
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.279
also Resistance kind of had an interesting
universe, but they totally lost me

419
00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:15.599
in the second act of that game. Is what I'm saying. It's it's

420
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.759
a it's a great backdrop, they
don't convey what's going on and why you

421
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:21.359
need to be doing it. The
stuff with Resistance was like, you know,

422
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:25.640
you were finding items in the world
that are telling you the main story

423
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.680
that don't get explained to the game, but also Resistance just the thing of

424
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:33.079
like to make by the end of
the second one, giving you no reason

425
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.880
to care about the characters anymore like
they and it doesn't even Resistance three doesn't

426
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.880
kind of more of a sequel to
Resistance one than Resistance I hope so Patrick

427
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.920
characteristricks, but it's one of those
things that by the end of Resistance Too,

428
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.079
I kind of didn't care about the
universe anymore. By the beginning of

429
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:52.680
Resistance Too, It's kind of felt
like like I jumped into two Resistance Too

430
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:55.920
really excited to see where it went, and then it feels like it really

431
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:57.640
fell flat. And then it's like, all right, I agree with you

432
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:00.240
on like the storytelling, like the
the narrative, But I think as a

433
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.240
universe, like as a setting that
the Gears stuff has always been interesting,

434
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.599
and it is almost more to the
fact of like because they don't or haven't

435
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:11.000
really explained a lot of what the
hell is like search games like busting you

436
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:15.240
out of jail, bad Shit's going
on, go and like that's kind of

437
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.640
all you know, and it's like
I would keep up with these guys,

438
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.200
obviously I have some history with this
guy you that you derived just from the

439
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:25.920
dialogue, and then fight cleazy fucking
underground monsters. Definitely, there's definitely something

440
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:27.880
to be said about like busting out
of jail to your character is having a

441
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.960
confidence in the universe that they already
know what's going on even if you don't.

442
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.960
So like Marcus knows this war has
been going on forever, not kind

443
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:38.519
of knows a shit jump in fight
yeah, versus like discovering it of like

444
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.680
oh, aliens Land. There's there's
a real economy to the storytelling. And

445
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:48.440
three, like the Marcus backstory stuff. There's like a real quick playable flashback

446
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.599
that explains like five different things about
where he came from and what's up with

447
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.200
his father and like why he was
in jail all this stuff. And then

448
00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:00.519
on top of that, there's a
previously in Gears of War video track mode

449
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.079
thing that you know doesn't necessarily go
over the story beats over the first two

450
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:07.039
games. It more just sets you
up and let you know, hey,

451
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:14.759
humanity is super fucked like just bat
we fucking man. We thought we had

452
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:22.519
them, but oh, things are
going super bad. What any what edition?

453
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:29.319
Did you get a regular You don't
want the fat cog? Uh?

454
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:33.039
No, I think I will.
I will report from Jeff's Super special edition.

455
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:37.039
That thing is heavy and kind of
awesome. Yeah, the box that

456
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:38.119
the game comes in, and the
little flag and the cog and there it's

457
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.640
uff the little middle thing. Yeah, little Adam Phoenix cog thing is pretty

458
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.200
cool. I think the craziest part
about it is that they actually unique Xbox

459
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.359
code into the back of that thing. Do that all of them? Even

460
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.640
the ones that are come in this
edition. Oh, I don't think the

461
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:52.640
ones that come in this edition have
it, because I pulled mine out and

462
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.119
I really, unless I missed it, I don't think it does. There's

463
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:57.880
the other ones that they have given
out at events and other like put out

464
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:02.359
in the world and stuff that do
have those codes, but I don't know

465
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.319
that. I swear it's said that
on the do you have it here?

466
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.400
And I don't have any chick.
Chick always round my neck, never drop

467
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:12.279
a cog, right, yep?
Just regular old play. Some Gears of

468
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:17.960
War three. Yeah, that one
is perfectly fine to get. Like I

469
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.079
said, I think that the epic
edition that they put out is like super

470
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:25.279
well made. If you're in two
statues of dudes, the statue is like

471
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:29.920
eighty percent of the package terms an
art book, you know if you're that's

472
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:32.640
the thing. But the box the
game comes in with the you know,

473
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:37.720
like it folds open all nice.
Yeah, has the gear in there,

474
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.640
and like I guess it's flag right. I don't really have enough room in

475
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:42.839
my apartment anymore for that. Yeah, totally. And and why should you,

476
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:45.400
I don't know, you know,
what's your grown ass man? You're

477
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:49.400
gonna put yours? So veenis he's
got a gun. He's on one knee

478
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:53.039
to put it right next to my
halo helmet, Like, no, come

479
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:57.400
on, I'm not moving my halo
helmet. Crazy. I haven't moved my

480
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:00.720
halo helmet. But that's only because
it has to go somewhere, right,

481
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:03.440
So it's and I have two of
them. I ended up with two of

482
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:10.839
them somehow, which a sucker.
Yeah, big packaging is sometimes cool on

483
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.160
a store shelf, but then when
it's in your house and I can never

484
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.000
bring it home because I will look
at it and go like that's not gonna

485
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:21.039
fit, Like that's gonna have to
go on some weird other shelf away kind

486
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:22.960
of feel bad throwing it out,
like, oh, that kind of is

487
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.640
a nice box, all right,
trash. I just I just don't want

488
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:32.319
to. I already do have an
abundance of gaming memorabilia all over my house.

489
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.079
But it's like two or three levels
cooler than the ship that comes with

490
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.079
the collector's edition. Oh you're gonna
put in your house, it's gonna be

491
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.079
like I got this on a weird
trip, or this was a limited thing

492
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:49.359
out this broken soundboard. Here's the
you know PS one Chicato tambourine minimody game.

493
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.440
Here here is a six by six
mirror with the Vice City logo on

494
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.279
it. There's also there's a filo
with a razor blade on it. This

495
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:57.960
that's no point in my life that
says Vice City below it. You know

496
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:03.920
that Vice City though I still have
that on my fridge. God damn.

497
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:08.319
That is the best piece of coke
mirror ever been. There's also a point

498
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.039
to where it's just like, is
that the stuff I choose to display now

499
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.440
in my house or apartment? Like, is this the wall of video game

500
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.440
stuff or it's just going to be
like wedding photos or is you know something

501
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.400
else, you know, pictures of
children. No, this is gonna be

502
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.440
my coke mirror from that's on the
fridge. That's just on the fridge.

503
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.039
It's got magnets on the back,
so it just sticks to the fridge nicely.

504
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:30.759
So yeah, at some point I'm
just sitting on the coffee table.

505
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:36.920
At some point it's baby powder.
I changed the baby on it. Uh

506
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.440
yeah, what you choose to display
that stuffing? Maybe it's not for me,

507
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.319
but I still do like a collector's
edition if they're going to include uh,

508
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.720
fiction that supports it like that.
That Halo diary was actually pretty cool.

509
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.200
That was neat. Yeah, read
that thing. It was like,

510
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.720
I mean the stuff they get me
with is like in game stuff, and

511
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.160
that's cool. If they could just
send me a code like from Amazi,

512
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.039
give me the box, put a
piece of brain it, it does make

513
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:06.680
It does make pre ordering games from
Amazon a little extra Christmas e is that

514
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:10.119
the day that Okay, I pre
ordered it and it's set to deliver one

515
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:14.200
day of release and then that morning, so it's a little warm of it's

516
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:15.799
like, hey, here's War three
is coming, here's your code, here's

517
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.799
your code. I'm like great,
and go at this on Xbox dot Com

518
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:21.119
and look at it and say you
got the same, Like great, this

519
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.480
afternoon when I come home, pre
ordering games still sucks. Is it pre

520
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:28.799
ordering? I guess pre ordering it
technically it is. But if you're just

521
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:32.000
like I'm gonna I'm gonna buy this, I don't necessarily need to reserve it

522
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:36.920
because they're not like they're gonna run
out Amazon with with Amazon specifically, it's

523
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.519
more just I'm taking care of the
transaction ahead of time so that it will

524
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:42.599
be at my house the day it
comes out, and I don't have to

525
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.880
go to a store, right sure, Yeah, Like I don't feel like

526
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.960
they are reserving people. I think
people should read video game reviews and then

527
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.440
and then then buy games. I
did, and then I pre ordered Gears

528
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:59.039
Work, all right, Yeah,
I mean in this specific case and yeah,

529
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.720
whatever I'm gonna You know, I
was by that same notion. I

530
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:06.519
was going in pre ordering like you
know, Arkham City and on Chart three

531
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:09.039
because I'm gonna want to play those
games. I know that. So yeah,

532
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.680
there's some games that I'm gonna play
regardless of if they're good or back

533
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:15.759
three were terrible. I still want
to know how that terrible. And it's

534
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:20.119
not like the little pre order babble
is like, Oh, that's why I

535
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.200
want to do this. It's no, it's because I get a day of

536
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:24.279
I don't pay shipping, I don't
pay taxes. It's there at my house.

537
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.160
I don't have to worry about how
we got to go to the best

538
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.440
Buy or the game stoppers. You're
very possibly you got twenty dollars off the

539
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:35.799
order. Yeah, yeah, you
know it's pay me twenty dollars to buy

540
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:44.799
Gears of War three? No,
Fred Amazon? Did Frederico AMAZONI Zucchini Amazon?

541
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:49.200
Give you twenty bucks? You gotta
fry. I can never argue with

542
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:52.680
you. It's so nice. I
got all these copies of Gears three.

543
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:57.960
I don't know where this accent has
gone. Yeah, it's Fred fred Zonian.

544
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.359
All come on? Any of you
done? All right? Does that

545
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.319
ever get? Do you ever get
a good? All? Come on?

546
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.840
Constantly? Ok? He says it
when you're boning up your active Yeah.

547
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:12.239
He says it when you when you
I think they're recycling that line, you

548
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.679
think they have them again. I
don't know. I'm sure he's says whatever

549
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:20.119
they like. Every time he says
it is, he says the exact same

550
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.159
way. It's just the only way
he says. Says that line in his

551
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.440
sleep at this point. But I
wonder if they had him so it's like

552
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:30.039
this, Yeah, we use a
slightly different take this teeth clenched maybe because

553
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:35.360
things are dire. Because if you
do twenty eight game that's got sixty of

554
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.239
them. I'm saying like they did
twenty in the first game, and then

555
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.840
and then just like I'm not even
saying they use all twenty, but you

556
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.760
do twenties that you have like one
or two or three good ones. Marcus

557
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:51.400
Phoenix is a different man though,
though, like he's you know, they

558
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.760
turn it on for combat. Yeah, you know, so like when they're

559
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:59.880
fighting, they just sound like they
always sound. The Coltrane runs on whole

560
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.320
great exactly. I Well, we'll
table this for now. We'll come back

561
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:13.320
next week. After had a chance
to play any other I did, I

562
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.119
kind of did so when I finished
up the Which or two kind of went

563
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:21.400
into Space Marine finished that up and
then oddly left me in a weird place

564
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:27.960
because I was then presented with a
bounty of different things to play, but

565
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.559
I wasn't really prepared to commit to
anyone. Dead Island, Dead Island,

566
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:37.719
Dasax, Resistance three, and then
a bunch of game fly stuff, So

567
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:44.320
I went up playing uh, Castlevania
Lord's Shadow a bunch, and I actually

568
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:47.639
really like it. Really, Yeah, I'm actually really I think if you

569
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:52.159
come at it, or at least
for me, it's like whatever. They

570
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:57.360
could have called that game Medieval Dude
Crusader, right, it probably should have.

571
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.239
There was there was a period of
time where it was just called Lords

572
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.159
of Shadow. Yeah, there's there's
very little Castlevania to be had in that

573
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:06.880
game, well almost at this point
in the game with me, it's kind

574
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:08.559
of zero. I mean, the
guy's name is Bell Belmont. Yeah,

575
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:13.000
I think you're the first Belmont.
Uh, I think so, because you're

576
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.639
part of the order. There's no
other history. Nobody's even mentioned a vampire

577
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:19.239
at this point in the game.
I mean, the combat is not even

578
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.519
predominantly whip based, like there is, there is whipping, but you've got

579
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.280
that cross weapon that is the whip. I mean, I know it's sort

580
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.679
of whips out, but it's not
it's not exactly the same, you know,

581
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.960
like they it's pretty whippy. I
know it functions as a whip in

582
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.679
a lot of cases, depending on
depending on how you're attacking, but it's

583
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.039
not I don't think there's ever there's
ever like a melee just kind of bash

584
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:38.679
a guy with that. It's it's
always kind of character is very different,

585
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.280
you know, but it's part of
this He's part of this monastic order,

586
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.840
and it's very it's very ceremonial.
The combat is more if you were to

587
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.440
consider like the God of War chain
blades as a whip, that is kind

588
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.280
of what the combat feels like.
You're just basically making these circles we're just

589
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.280
talking about when he walks around,
he's carrying the Shi Cross and not like

590
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.599
having a character. I think that
game. I think that game looks pretty

591
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:00.199
cool. Uh. I was just
turned off by Yeah, it's it's very

592
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:04.679
got a word derivative in the gameplay
and some of it. But it's seemed

593
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.159
to remember a lot of people complaining
about platforming. Yeah, I'm not having

594
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.599
too big of an issue with that, and I'm only I'm on chapter three,

595
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:14.320
but there's a lot of chapters in
between, so probably about fifteen twenty

596
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:19.079
hours and maybe fifty, maybe more
like ten to fifteen. The platform you're

597
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.159
now having too big a deal.
There's a lot of like wall climbing ledges

598
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.800
and scooting over ledges and stuff like
that. I thought a lot of the

599
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:28.840
camera angles were kind of fixed camera, so you can't move the camera.

600
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:30.440
That's kind of annoying in a lot
of cases, like it's pulled too far

601
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.519
out to navigate what you're trying to
get through and stuff like that. That

602
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.880
hasn't been too big a deal for
me yet. It's the biggest complaint I've

603
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:42.679
heard is that the game is too
damn long and so at some point.

604
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.199
So far it's been great for me. The variety has been a lot of

605
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.880
things keep me moving, They keep
giving me new powers, feeding me those.

606
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.840
At some point, if there are
just long stretches of doing the same

607
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.519
thing, because the combat isn't that
engaging, right, then I could see

608
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.519
it really dragging and being like,
man, really another ten hours of just

609
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.239
this. But if I actually really
like it, I think it's well presented.

610
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:05.519
I think the presentation is kind of
on Patrick Stewart. Uh, there's

611
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:09.039
a lot of Patrick Stewart, and
there's it's just weird stuff in it.

612
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:12.880
Like it's a very different game than
I thought it would be. There's like

613
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.800
some shadow the classes in it,
Like you're kind of climbing up these giant

614
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.400
taps. The first boss. Uh, there's h you know, riding on

615
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.119
mounds. There's just I don't know. So far, it's it's been engaging.

616
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.159
I didn't mind it. I think
it's it's a good's all right.

617
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.840
So anyway, so I want to
play more than that than I thought I

618
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:32.280
would. I thought I would play
it, uh, and maybe you get

619
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:35.840
a taste for it and then send
it back getting your game five value out

620
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:37.599
of it up buying it from game
Fly Hang on, Hang on, So

621
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:42.320
you you you've kept it? I
kept it after after how many how many

622
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.360
times over have you paid the full
retail price of that game? The full

623
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:47.880
retail price or the price that I
paid for it? Well, either for

624
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:52.000
it, because yeah, I paid
I paid less. But I'm talking about

625
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:53.679
if you have like a one disc
game Fly heunt, because I get it.

626
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:58.719
I probably paid like eighty bucks for
that game sitting on my coffee like

627
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:00.679
somewhere around there for a pure of
months. So I'm glad. I'm enjoying

628
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.760
it after keeping it for this long. So after I bought that, they

629
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.079
were able to send me the other
game, which was supposed to be Resistance

630
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:14.840
Coming, but apparently that is not
available. Uh so that's why I dumped

631
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.519
them, because the available. So
yeah, so I was kind of really

632
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:21.599
bummed. I was really hoping to
play that this weekend. So kill Zone

633
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:23.400
three showed up. So I played
a bunch of that, and I'm just

634
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:29.480
I'm not liking that as much.
I just, uh something about it.

635
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:34.039
Rico, it's the Rico. I
still hate Rico, yeah, uh And

636
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.679
I tried to shoot him every chance
I get, but he never died,

637
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:44.719
even in three D holes Invincible Rico. And I actually I like kill Zone

638
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:46.239
two up and no, that's how
we got into this mess. Yeah,

639
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:52.239
up until kill Zone two turned into
Rico's story and then it's funny that kills

640
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.360
On three literally picks up right after
that. Yeah, it just brought back

641
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:59.000
all those memories. You're basically walking
out of the room and there's Rico.

642
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.960
Right, You're like, what the
really be partnered with this guy? Like,

643
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.280
oh this is terrible. I don't
want to be partnered with him.

644
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:07.800
Uh. Like it's like developers just
rubbing your face in it, just like

645
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.480
no, yeah, you're stuck with
him. But there are some things I

646
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:15.199
don't remember. It kills on two, having the revive did it revive you?

647
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:21.079
Yeah? Did yeah? In the
single player okay, because it's weird.

648
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:22.920
In in three, this just seems
weird. I don't know. It

649
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:27.159
seems like it's breaking me out of
the fiction every time I go down and

650
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.639
then fucking Rico has to come and
revive mabe you. Yeah. Maybe that's

651
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:31.480
what's annoying me, is that,
like when I die, I have to

652
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:36.800
count on him, and you have
to count on the AI and and it's

653
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.079
it kills the two is a lot
of cases. I can't get over there.

654
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:43.840
I can see you. It kills
on three. I add cases where

655
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:47.360
like he was crouched next to me. I was like, I can't make

656
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.760
it, like fuck you, you
useless fun. The brutal kills are kind

657
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:54.400
of interesting, but they take up
too much time. Yeah, I wish

658
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:58.559
they didn't because every time I go
on the ball stab is so good.

659
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.239
It's so good, but then you
get shot by everybody while you're doing it,

660
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:02.159
and it's like, no, just
stamp the guy, move on or

661
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:05.639
button what you're gone, we don't
need. Don't be such an asshole,

662
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.519
and you'll live. But I still
think that game looks really good and and

663
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:13.480
some of the animation stuff. I
still like the you know, the kind

664
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.800
of fluidity and the stuff, but
though it gets in the ways sometimes.

665
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:19.719
Yeah. So it's one of those
things where it was interesting reviewing that game

666
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.559
having not played Kills Them two since
it was released, or you know,

667
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.280
right around it's released, because at
some point they patched Kills Them two to

668
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:30.320
change control yeah, or to you
know, kind of update the controls and

669
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:32.280
make them a little more, you
know, to kind of take some of

670
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:37.599
the weight out of them, and
and I guess ideally trying to reduce some

671
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:39.199
of the input lag. So it
Kills On three just comes like that.

672
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.880
Yeah. I actually had to slow
it down. I had to make it

673
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.119
less sense of because it was just
I couldn't. It was it was too

674
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.599
finicky for me for some reason.
Huh. Yeah, Yeah, it was

675
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:52.480
weird. So like Kills Them three
comes like that, and having not played

676
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:57.719
it Kills Them two too much after
reviewing that, it was like, man,

677
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.239
this feels so different, it's crazy. And then I went back played

678
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:01.760
Kills one two and it downloaded like
nine patches, like, oh wait,

679
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:07.679
this is identical. Yeah, it
did seem like it was the control like

680
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:12.559
that much difference from like when Kills
Him two launched and what it became.

681
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.440
Yeah that it was pretty much the
same damn game. But yeah, that's

682
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:19.960
cool stuff. They released that patch
like after Kills Them or like around the

683
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.920
release of Kills one three. It
was like it was like way way two

684
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:24.920
three months after came. Okay,
it was like one of things where just

685
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:28.599
like people constantly complaining about the field
of the game, and I thought Kills

686
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:31.400
On two felt kind of fine as
is it was. It seemed like a

687
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:36.239
deliberate choice and not a why is
this game broken? But so it was

688
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:37.760
one of the cases where everyone wants
everything to play like Hall of Duty.

689
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:42.679
Then they you know, they bowed
to that pressure or something. Yeah,

690
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.360
but you know, I think it
actually does control better once they made the

691
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.559
change. So I'm enjoying it so
far, you know, aside from like

692
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:52.239
you know, my personal feelings on
Rico. And there's an issue like the

693
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:58.519
well there's like a weird story thing
where they totally bone up along the way

694
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.960
that like wait, why okay,
I've played this in flashback already and it

695
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:07.280
went this very specific way. Why
is it not going that way now like

696
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.079
it does like a four hours earlier, and then you play back up to

697
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:15.679
that point and do that thing again
and it's totally different. Why why you've

698
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:21.519
changed the timeline? Yeah, totally
stupid. Should do one of it.

699
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.079
Should be one of those like,
you know, perceived from another perspective,

700
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:28.880
you're playing is the same dude,
right, right, and it's yeah,

701
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.280
it's or that that would there would
be some sort of reveal later of like

702
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.119
that's why there's a difference. But
right, Luckily for me in my memory

703
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:37.119
of ship so I can't remember even
what happened in the beginning of the game,

704
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:42.920
uh, dressed up as enemy dudes
talking. When you go back to

705
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.800
that part, totally fucking different.
Yeah, right, because the tutorials that

706
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:51.280
game is as exactly you as that. So you go back to it,

707
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.840
it's not a tutorial sequence the second
time around, weird and you're like taking

708
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:59.599
different paths and doing different stuff and
it makes no sense. It still ends

709
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:01.159
up the way that ends up.
That would be pretty funny though. If

710
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:05.000
they did the tutorial again, I
was like this guy, Yeah, now

711
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:08.079
aimed down to the sights. Right, good job. You obviously like converted

712
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:13.280
people, no sense I really like, Yeah, whoever wrote the story for

713
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.880
that gets an f Rico. Rico
wrote my part bigger. There are parts

714
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:20.880
are parts of the story that are
they're totally fine, but that part of

715
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:22.639
it so broken, Like how do
you get that? How do you actually

716
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:27.280
release that? Insane? Insane?
I wonder if that was just like a

717
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.119
last minute Like fuck, we need
to have some sort of storytelling device or

718
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:35.519
some kind of mechanical I imagine like
maybe the the device was there, but

719
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.559
like, okay, we need this. We need some sort of tutorial in

720
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:39.440
here. We don't have anywhere in
here where we actually show people explain to

721
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:43.400
people how to play kill Zone.
Mayeah, it's a first person shooter.

722
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:45.960
People can figure that out. No, you needs something, No, you

723
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:51.960
have to do something. Uh.
I wonder it's fun? Uh so yeah,

724
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.159
do you think you can hang with? Uh? With this and Gears

725
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:04.880
at the same time too, too
gritty, mostly brown looking shooters. You

726
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:07.159
know, I'm getting to the point
where I'm starting so many games. I

727
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.239
just need to, I think,
concentrate and finish year. This is not

728
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:13.000
as brown as it has no,
No, that was the one thing we

729
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.280
didn't really touch on is that I
think game looks fucking incredible, Like it

730
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.960
looks so much better Havin played too
so recently, right, like it looks

731
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.039
so much better now. So kind
of one of the benefits of them not

732
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:24.840
spending a time time underground. Yeah, you know the lighting light love moar,

733
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:28.679
dramatic use lighting like like almost resistant
three styles, some of the same

734
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.079
kind of stuff. I just really
like that secrece and said the Giant worm

735
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:35.760
that part was so fu nothing like
that. It's kind of nothing like that

736
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:37.719
in the in the whole game,
like weird set pieces. Set pieces are

737
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:43.159
not as crazy as the pieces are
more just like oh god, like how

738
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.880
many guys there are? We are
fucked. Yeah, I don't know,

739
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.519
Like, yeah, I'm so I'm
at this point where I'm starting so many

740
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:52.280
things. I'm kind of getting overwhelmed, getting that weird like paralysis of like

741
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.880
I just don't even know what to
play right now because I'm kind of in

742
00:45:54.920 --> 00:46:00.239
the beginning of Dave Sax played a
little more of that uh Castlevania. I'm

743
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:07.400
already invested a couple of hours in
uh kill Zone UH three. I'll probably

744
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:12.599
have to finish that. I would
really like to jump into Resistance because Patrick

745
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.360
says the story and that's pretty good. Uh, Gears, I'm definitely gonna

746
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:27.440
drop in. Uh, what's McCall
it the Rebel Assault, what's the I

747
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.480
want to jump into that some more. Game is pretty great. So it's

748
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.440
definitely like all these things that are
open and then something something's coming out soon

749
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:40.239
on everything's coming out once Rage come
out four. Yeah, yeah, so

750
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:44.079
that's the date I could just see
that. Oh, I played some more.

751
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:49.800
I played a bunch of kill Switch, Killed Hard Reset. I'm like

752
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.480
literally just looking down. Names are
just flying at me. He's just playing.

753
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:54.719
He's like he's getting back to the
original Gears. He's like, no,

754
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:58.639
I have to play I have to
play through the entire Gears trilogy before

755
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.599
I could play Gears three. And
that actually starts with kill Switch Switch,

756
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:07.480
the game that that spawn cover Fire. So hard Reset played a bunch of

757
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:12.000
that. I mean Turbo Button.
Uh, that game's pretty good. Yeah,

758
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.440
it's fun. That gives maybe too
easy. I played about twenty minutes

759
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.280
of it, and I basically played
up to like the first upgrade station or

760
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.480
something like that, and then yeah, it's a little it's a little the

761
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.480
way it looks, but yeah,
it's super mindless. It's it's very like

762
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:29.559
narrow in scope like it. It
doesn't seem like it ever gets into huge,

763
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.480
huge levels. So I don't know
if the enemies vary that much.

764
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:35.800
I've only seen about it because yeah, like everything early on is all those

765
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.960
little gays. Does the little guys
get the big giant kind of like ape

766
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.960
looking thing. I've not I've not
played enough to know if it gets any

767
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.840
better than that. But just last
week I blew all of the dust out

768
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.079
of my PC so I can run
PC games again. That work Yeah,

769
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:52.840
yeah, like a bunch of like
yeah, I had to take it outside.

770
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:57.960
That's how can there with no Will
Smith gave me a little squeezy air

771
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.280
blowy thing that was able to use
and that that worked out. There was

772
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:06.199
yeah inside the like the grills on
the CPU fan like it was just completely

773
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.320
like literally I go out and do
that, plug it back in and after

774
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:15.559
fiddling with some RAM stuff like twenty
twenty degrees celsius drops in temperature on my

775
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:17.960
set and went from being like this
is way too hot to like, yeah,

776
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.000
this is about can operate like this, Like I can understand why you

777
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:27.320
were chugging on games and occasionally locking
up because it's not a good temperature for

778
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:30.719
CPU. But yes, they're hard
reset fun, and yeah, the upgrade

779
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:36.039
trees are fun. Just seeing the
gun transform is kind of cool. Uh

780
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:38.719
though, I just actually had the
last time that I booted up, which

781
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:44.519
is sometime last week. Uh,
I noticed that there was a fast menus

782
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:50.039
option, like in the after guys
talk about popped up and said fastinating like

783
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:54.159
we're seeing them go slow ones.
But but they've also patched that game.

784
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:59.199
I think it goes faster. I
think this really moved. I feel like

785
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:02.559
they've like sped up the animations on
even the slow versions of the menus.

786
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:06.480
I don't know. I mean they
upgraded the servos on those arms. Yep,

787
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:10.440
I don't. I don't really.
I don't really like the because the

788
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:14.559
story between the games so much that
the panels. Yeah, because the first

789
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.320
time I played that game with preview
version of that game they sent us had

790
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:21.039
none of that. It was literally
like you just loaded up and that first

791
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.480
level starts, like none of the
motion comic like loading screen stuff they have

792
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.519
because you don't understand what's happening.
Yeah, it's super it's like guys like

793
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:32.719
just laying out all this stuff matter. The cop wants you to send another

794
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:37.039
cop over to drink with him because
he doesn't like to drink alone. Yeah,

795
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:40.840
but then there's like robot renegade robots, renegade robots, and then souls

796
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:44.119
are inside this computer. And I
worked for the corporation, but I hate

797
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:45.679
the corporation. I'm like, wait, so I don't know if you're a

798
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.599
cop, if you're a Yeah,
I'm confused by your story, and I

799
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.280
really don't give a shit because guess
what robots fight the robots. I think

800
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.480
I gained a better understanding of that
game when I downloaded it from Steam because

801
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:59.800
I clicked install and it was like
two gig to download. I was like,

802
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:01.679
oh, yeah, yeah, I
don't think it's very long. Well

803
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:04.800
yeah, that's four hours. I
think it's the number. Yeah, Like

804
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.960
maybe the price probably should have tip
me off, but I mean it's weird.

805
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:12.039
On like the consoles, there's a
more regimented approach to like this is

806
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:14.360
a full retail game, this is
a downloadable game, and like you have

807
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:16.079
your expectations about what the game is
based on that. Yeah, But on

808
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:19.639
Steam it's like whatever, it's like
it could cost anything, it could be

809
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.239
anything. Yeah, there is no
like this is a live ark game,

810
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:24.599
this is a games on demand or
whatever. But then that game, the

811
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:28.960
game is kind of fun and it's
like just hold down the trigger, no

812
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.239
reloading, just and basically shot barrel
gets real hot and just shoot everything around

813
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:37.239
you because it all explodes. And
that's kind of it's very much environmental kills.

814
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:38.519
Oh yeah, yeah, It's like
I gotta shoot that panel because it

815
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:43.599
shoots out electricity and that'll shoot a
car and that'll blow up everything. Uh

816
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:49.159
yeah, kind kind of like explosion
management is as important as actually aiming at

817
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:51.320
the things you're trying to shoot.
And I love that. I love the

818
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:55.079
the red hot barrels on your gun
because you've just been holding it down for

819
00:50:55.159 --> 00:51:00.480
too long. Yeah, So that's
It's so everything is kind of like right

820
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:07.079
now that I'm playing is a little
more a little less Dave's X and a

821
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.360
little more shooty you know, Castlevania
kind of the same thing. But I

822
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:15.199
think that's that's where I'm We're gonna
put my time for a little bit a

823
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.480
little less, little brainless well Castlvania
it is. I just like the story

824
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:22.159
that's going on so far, I'm
kind of interested to see if this this

825
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.159
is like a reboot, right,
this is what they said Castlevania is from

826
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:28.559
now on. Uh so kind of
I don't know, interested to see what

827
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.360
happens, to see if I'll fight
a grim Reaper. I am the grim

828
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:36.320
Reaper. I don't know what nobody
knows. Front to the end of the

829
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:40.000
alleged duck for three seconds until the
treasure chest appears, there's no duck button.

830
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:45.440
It's time alright, Like I like
when I'm playing that game, I

831
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:52.320
just I just see the effort that
was, like, we're gonna make this

832
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:55.360
epic and grand, and this is
gonna be such a such a good tale,

833
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.159
and I just feel like my heart
goes out to be like I hear

834
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:04.480
you man, like there's good production
value in here, that the artwork is

835
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.360
kind of inspired in some places,
like the character designs are good. There's

836
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:13.239
some like pans labyrinth plucking dudes in
it. I see you guys put some

837
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:16.239
effort into this, and so I
don't know, maybe that is influencing me

838
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:19.760
and being like I want this to
work out for you and I can get

839
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:23.239
behind this. I really like what
I see in it. Uh Yeah,

840
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:27.320
I need to focus. I need
to right in and take two weeks off

841
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.000
and finish everything. Just get it
all done. I got a better idea.

842
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:31.559
Yes, why don't you take all
those games that you just mentioned,

843
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:37.800
Ye, throw them away and just
play track Mania. Yeah, I think

844
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:44.360
about that thin. Come with me, show me something, Come with me

845
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:46.000
and play track Mania too, for
the rest of your life. Listen to

846
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:50.199
share. Yes, every every time
I see it, I think. I

847
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:52.159
think I can make some cool tracks. Yeah. I want nothing to do

848
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:54.599
with making tracks. You don't want
to, but you can drive my cool

849
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:59.480
tracks. Okay, somebody said,
I got I got last week. I

850
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:05.039
got into a little bit of track
Mania two trouble and it's first hit.

851
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:08.480
I'm not I'm not to Jeff's stage
yet, but I get it. There's

852
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:12.639
no free version of track Mania now
right, I'm not of two No.

853
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:16.519
Okay, somebody did you see this
picture or somebody sent about the end of

854
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:21.360
the world. Yeah, it's insane. It makes you just want to buy

855
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:24.239
track Mania just to do that,
he said. So basically, it's weird.

856
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:28.679
You can see there in the quick
look. You drive off the track

857
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.400
and it doesn't like respond you back
on the track. You just drive and

858
00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:35.599
you just kind of just keep going. It's just just the world. This

859
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:39.960
is mania plant. And eventually apparently
you stop driving over like mountains and stuff,

860
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:45.880
and it just becomes a gradual incline
until you go past the sky box,

861
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:50.639
like through the sky into heaven,
and then it just becomes crazy.

862
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.920
So he said it takes about three
or four minutes just to get to that

863
00:53:55.079 --> 00:54:00.000
incline. Yeah, and then you
just go up forever. Doesn't sound amazing.

864
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:01.360
It's just heaven mania all the way. So I just want to make

865
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:05.639
a track that takes you there.
I don't think you can put track out

866
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:10.039
there, So so is the idea
probably not? Is the idea here that

867
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:15.440
like this they they didn't build like
tracks. They just built like this giant

868
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:20.840
map and then they're just yes,
and then the track editors all block based,

869
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:23.559
so you're just dropping down these blocks
in this in the center of their

870
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:30.679
playfield, and the area that you
can manipulate with track parts is way smaller

871
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:32.000
than the full area. You know, they just want it to look like

872
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:37.239
that's where is going to take place. Yeah, this is this is like

873
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:42.440
even theoretically just to the canyon area
anyway, like there will be other areas.

874
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.519
Then will they connect to this?
Will there be revisions to They'll probably

875
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:50.159
be a situation where they add blocks
in each one of the environments and those

876
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:52.000
carry over into the others. There
will be things that I just wanted to

877
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:55.840
buy. Multiple games will probably transport
back and forth. I don't know if

878
00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:00.760
I can drive from the canyon area
to the fu Ungle area, the kind

879
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:05.519
of this, I don't know.
I don't know, Man, this game

880
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:09.079
is so messed up. It is. It's made by lunatics, crazy people

881
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:13.800
and being used by crazy people.
In some cases, it's like really disappointing,

882
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:17.039
but it's also awesome. Yeah,
Like it's the hoops you have to

883
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:22.519
jump through to Nothing about any of
the interface makes a little game. Does

884
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:27.000
not come with an instruction manual.
No. So the only reason I know

885
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:29.760
as much as I do about track
Mania is because I played a fair amount

886
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:32.239
of track Mania United Forever, the
previous one, right, And I was

887
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:36.119
like, so you were creating like
a giant bomb group, and I'm like,

888
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:37.840
like, hey, send me an
invite. Let's let's be track Mania

889
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:40.559
friends. You're all right, I've
said, I'm like, I have literally

890
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:45.920
no idea where is the interface to
find that information like what like and it's

891
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:50.159
like you can't tell what's just text
and what is a button in that game?

892
00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:52.880
Constantly it's like, well, might
do I click on? No,

893
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:53.880
I can't click on that. Wait, hold on, I clicked on that

894
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:55.760
and it selected it okay, but
then I have to go and hit the

895
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:59.639
okay button over here. Wait,
this is You're just giving me a list,

896
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:00.880
this is a even a thing I
can select. You're just showing me

897
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:05.599
information here. So and a lot
of that stuff is right out of the

898
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:13.199
previous game. And they really feels
like it really feels like they just it

899
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:15.840
really feels like they really didn't put
any effort into usability tests. Like everything

900
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:19.760
I hear about this game makes it
sound like a game designed by programmers.

901
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.039
Yeah, kind of like the stuff
you were saying about how you met,

902
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:23.960
how you set up a server for
that game, and like you have to

903
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:28.280
install sequel on your machine. I'm
running separately. I'm running a server now.

904
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:35.840
Uh no, I mean I'm paying
for a service that runs a sequel.

905
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:37.280
But if you want to run a
server, or if you want to

906
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:40.440
run a server yourself, walk through
the He told me the stuff yesterday and

907
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:45.679
my mind exploded. So there's dedicated
server software for for the game run separate

908
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:49.760
from the game. Run separately from
the game to tie it. To get

909
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.199
it to access to your account,
you have to create a separate log in

910
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:57.960
account for the dedicated server and then
do that. That's like you're editing XML

911
00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:01.880
files I think for that and create
an account. You just kind of enter

912
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:06.119
whatever. Okay, So it's not
as long as it's not going to like

913
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:08.480
the track Mania two weeks, like
I need to create an adminicators. You

914
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:13.719
have to go to the website and
link them together somehow, and so like

915
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:15.679
once you start the server, it's
like, Okay, I know that that's

916
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:17.639
a server name, and I know
that when you're this account connects it will

917
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:21.639
be an admin because this is the
account it's tied to. And is that

918
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:23.639
is that set up so that you
could like have multiple people be admins?

919
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:30.599
And so I'm sorry, we're geting
media ahead of myself here. You could

920
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:32.960
just run a vanilla server. You
could just like download the dedicated server and

921
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.599
put it up and be done.
But it's not going to have any of

922
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:39.960
the stuff that is kind of now
standard for a track Mania server, like

923
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:46.239
persistent records across sessions and you know, the ability to kick people out properly.

924
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.639
And you know, like like a
lot of things are plugins, so

925
00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:52.519
there's a whole like architecture for plugins
like xml L, RPC stuff. So

926
00:57:52.800 --> 00:58:00.679
you have to run a separate process
that is like this plug in thing,

927
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:05.519
and for that to work, you
have to have PHP and like my sequel

928
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.360
installed on a Windows machine. On
Linux, you know, you'll probably already

929
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:13.360
have that stuff. So you basically
really need to turn your machine into a

930
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:16.320
server like a web server. You've
got a full like they did not make

931
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:20.239
their own database. They just want
you to use this open source and this

932
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:23.239
is how it was in the previous
game also and the and it's became kind

933
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.559
of the standard for how the game
is played. And you know there's like

934
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:32.000
cross server records keeping now for for
for track Mania United. None of that

935
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:36.639
stuff made it into the core of
track Mania two. It is all still

936
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.559
in fact, like the it's like, I mean, I'm trying to think

937
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:44.480
how to pronounce it, like zaccho
x A S E c O is like

938
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:49.480
the plug in structure that people use. And this is what will help you

939
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.760
serve up music. This is what
her helps you serve up like a jukebox

940
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:57.000
to let people select tracks. So
it's just as bolton like after the fact,

941
00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.800
yeah, feeling as the original,
which I was in the original that

942
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:02.119
they didn't incorporate and then yeah,
exactly, they didn't build you, and

943
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:06.480
it sounds like they did go and
build their own thing called Mania Alive,

944
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:09.639
but it's the same. It's it's
also runs separately outside of the main server

945
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:15.280
and requires PhD and that's kind of
crazy. So I actually, so someone

946
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.760
put together a track Mania two server
in a box which of you google that

947
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:22.880
you can find it and it'll actually
install the web server and install the plug

948
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:25.400
in stuff, and actually it's pretty
easy to get it up and running.

949
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:32.360
Adding tracks is I don't know how
you do it with that. I was

950
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:37.599
able to because another guy was running
a server kind of on our behalf unofficially,

951
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:39.599
and then he couldn't run it.
So like, I'll try and put

952
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:45.079
it together and just grab his map
directory and his map list stuff and incorporated

953
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:50.440
it and had it running. But
I don't have a good enough connection to

954
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:53.199
really serve that up. My upstream
is garbage. So it was just a

955
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:55.360
poor experience for most of people.
So at that point I was like,

956
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:58.719
fuck it. I'm gonna rent a
server. I'm gonna go pay money for

957
00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:01.400
someone to run this and started looking
around and you know, had to decide

958
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:06.519
which site I was willing to pay
a bunch of euros to because none of

959
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:08.880
them took dollars, but some of
them did take PayPal and found a hosting

960
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:13.039
service and went with that, and
actually getting tracks out of the server is

961
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:16.800
is actually really easy now with one
with their pay service. It's like it's

962
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:20.880
not it's not run by ubisoftter and
in the day or anybody. It's like

963
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:24.000
a separate So how much how much
Ubi stuff do you see in this game?

964
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:28.199
It's their logos kind of all over
it, but none. But like

965
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:30.360
in terms of like them putting out
this game, no good zero. I

966
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:34.239
mean, it's it's not even I
think they sell it on their store,

967
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:38.199
but it's only available digitally through the
Ubisoft store and I think through TrackMania dot

968
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:45.719
com directly seem like pretty different stuff. Yeah, we went on Steam and

969
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.760
because of the way the game's going
to hook together with all the different parts

970
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:52.559
and stuff, you know that they've
kind of hinted that it might not be

971
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:57.280
on Steam ever, because like the
way you describe it kind of just sounds

972
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:04.400
like I'm expecting like to install it
and like have uh like like literally have

973
01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:07.840
like MIDI of like Welcome to the
Jungle playing with a scroll that says cracked

974
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:13.039
by you know from movie Soft,
and like, you know, just basically

975
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.960
like you know Razor, you know, fifty one seventeen. The thing,

976
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:20.280
like everything about this sounds like something
that John Carmack would have architected in like

977
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.880
nineteen ninety six or something just like
this kind of like Bootstrappy then like open

978
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:28.440
info doc that tells you how to
put these things into copy these into the

979
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:30.599
directory, and then like it says
track mania and asky at the top.

980
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:35.679
It's it's you know, it's it's
got menus and like it's it's pretty playable

981
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:37.000
out of the box, like you
first time I booted that up, I

982
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:40.760
was racing on. I didn't,
though it does do a terrible job of

983
01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:44.440
telling you what the hell you're supposed
to do in that game. I also

984
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:46.920
got this offline component and yeah,
you can play it, but then there's

985
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:52.440
a difference between just playing those tracks
and beating the times, and then you

986
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:57.440
can set an official time, which
is then uploaded to the server and you

987
01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:00.480
get skill points so well, because
there's also the the whole metal points for

988
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:07.960
getting metals. You get skill points
for setting official times offline on the tracks

989
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:09.920
that come with the game, and
then there are ladder points you get for

990
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:15.719
playing online. These are all completely
separate methods of progression that have zero to

991
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:22.559
do with each other, and again
to two jas point never explained in any

992
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:28.199
capacity game. The game launches into
this kind of interface for man, I

993
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:31.199
mean there's I mean it's where your
points are worlds. Yes, there's a

994
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:35.079
screen with a bunch of like like
here's a little box, and here's the

995
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:37.199
thing that looks like a shield,
and then here's a bar, and here's

996
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:42.239
another bar. There's like a messaging
system like their forum is basically the first

997
01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:47.039
thing you see center screen in that
thing, and uh, it just dumps

998
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:51.800
constant information at you without any context. Well, once you can, if

999
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:53.760
you can get past that, I
can get past the craziest there. It

1000
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:58.199
is a terrific awesome it's terrifically funny. It's one of those things that when

1001
01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:01.000
I see it makes me think that
it's somehow this lucy goosy thing is going

1002
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:05.199
to become the thing twenty years from
now. Where everything takes place, like,

1003
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.039
oh, I'll see you. Are
you in in the Mania, Yeah,

1004
01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:10.880
I'll see you in the Mania.
Drive to my Mania hub and we'll

1005
01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:15.840
have a business meeting where I'll give
you seventy grams of jazz. And you

1006
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:20.280
know, so there's like a there's
an Internet within the Internet inside of Mania

1007
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:22.719
Planet, and it's not it doesn't
seem to be working right now, but

1008
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:25.800
you know, the previous game is
any indicator it will probably eventually how to

1009
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:30.440
work. Or basically, you can
set up storefronts in the game and then

1010
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:34.440
people can browse them based on geographical
locations. So you can make your Mania

1011
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.559
zone and then register it in like
California or whatever, and then you can

1012
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:42.599
you can serve up. If you've
made custom cars or icons or horns or

1013
01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:45.119
anything like that, or maps,
you can sell them there for in game

1014
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:49.599
currency. For planets. How do
you buy a planet? You don't,

1015
01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:53.280
you earn, you earn, So
getting metals gets you planets, okay,

1016
01:03:54.280 --> 01:04:00.880
and these separate points that then you're
converting and reaching certain rankings in the ladder

1017
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:05.159
on online you get planets, and
for connecting every day you get planets.

1018
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:09.519
Can you just play it? Can
you can you can. You can about

1019
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:12.320
you grind the system, Like if
you make a server and just have your

1020
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:16.119
track that's locked and make it like
one and become number one on that track.

1021
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:18.559
No, that giving number one on
that track doesn't give you anything,

1022
01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:20.800
So that's not part of the ladder
stuff. No. Being part of the

1023
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:26.239
ladder stuff is you competing against other
players and their positions on the ladder versus

1024
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:30.239
yours. So if you are on
a server with people that are higher ranked

1025
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:32.320
than you and you do better than
them, you earn more ladder points than

1026
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:35.559
you would if you didn't. Oh, so you literally have to compete against

1027
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:40.599
other people gain any of those game
ladder points. Yeah, skill points are

1028
01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:44.199
set from official time, so it's
and there's no manual and there's no you

1029
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:47.639
know, the interfaces is pretty terrible, and it's it's really too bad because

1030
01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:51.360
like the game itself is really accessible
and easy to understand. Just drive,

1031
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:56.400
just drive, and the handling model
is stuff that you know is nuanced and

1032
01:04:56.480 --> 01:04:59.719
you'll pick up on over time.
Basically drive but basically just fucking drive.

1033
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.039
You know. I think the thing
to wrap your mind around is and I

1034
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:06.440
only know this from like watching you
in from what little uh track me one

1035
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:10.880
that I had played. Uh,
is you know, you you're not really

1036
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:15.880
using in a lot of these races, like traditional race tactics, right,

1037
01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:19.079
because there's there's no contact. You're
playing up cars, everything clips through everything

1038
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:25.199
else, and that's you know whatever. That's honestly more of a distraction than

1039
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:27.159
anything else. It's not like you
can turn those off. Yeah, you

1040
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:29.199
know, you can turn off the
ghost cars ghost cars if you like,

1041
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:32.000
you know, it's it's no,
it can be a good thing if you're

1042
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:34.880
starting at the same time as another
race to get a sense of like,

1043
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:38.519
Okay, I'm taking this this corner
better, because all you're trying to do

1044
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:41.960
is just run the same thing over
and over again until you shaves as many

1045
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:45.280
you know, tenths of a second
as you can off of your off of

1046
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:47.440
your best time. Uh. And
you know, like all these tracks just

1047
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:51.320
get created and uploaded to a community
run server, Like they don't even run

1048
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:56.199
their own map hosting service, which
is weird because that's so key to the

1049
01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:59.920
whole experience. Like it's it's weird
that they did not pull all this stuff

1050
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:03.239
that the community is built internal and
make it better. Right, So it's

1051
01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:06.159
like you still have to go to
Mania Exchange to download tracks and it's it's

1052
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:10.159
a perfectly functional system, works just
fine. But like in this day and

1053
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:13.239
age, like like with the community
driven nature of that, there should be

1054
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:18.719
a better in game map browser or
or better certain just it's insane. Well

1055
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:21.840
that's the part that makes me feel
like this is they needed a UI guy

1056
01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:25.840
and they needed a social media ga. But the lack of that is the

1057
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:28.599
part that makes me feel like this
is also crazy and this is the future

1058
01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:31.360
kind of like where people will live
in there. It's very yeah wildfrontier.

1059
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:36.199
Yeah, there is that. It's
kind of refreshing because like games aren't like

1060
01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:41.639
this anymore, and it definitely feels
like you're you know, like okay,

1061
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:45.239
we okay, I hacked. I
feel like they have to root on this

1062
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:47.119
box and we're gonna telling that into
it instead of a quake service, don't

1063
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:50.320
fucking tell anybos, like a grassroots
of purity to it. I feel like

1064
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:55.199
somebody's gonna die in Mania world and
they're gonna die in real life. That's

1065
01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:58.199
like there's gonna be some like you
know and share will play the funeral.

1066
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:00.760
I mean, it's it's there is
that weird economy that that Jeff mentioned was,

1067
01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:04.960
you know, it's all there's this
weird barrier to entry to like understand

1068
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:08.760
kind of the bigger picture of this
game. But when you actually get into

1069
01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:11.960
the race, it's it is so
accessible for now, but wait until media

1070
01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:15.639
it was a media Planet, right
planet. Yeah, the promise of what

1071
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:18.039
they're Puttingmania Planet comes up constantly,
like when you load that thing up,

1072
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:20.519
it's all. But but like I
think, I think the icono my desktop

1073
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:27.119
doesn't even say track what they have
on the coming soon from Media Planet,

1074
01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:30.840
right kind of Christmas list just sounds
ridiculous. But then you know, also

1075
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:33.559
they've already broken a lot of promises
with this game in terms of what it

1076
01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:36.960
was supposed to have, Like they
announced a co op campaign for the cars

1077
01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:41.920
for track Media, which it does
not have, uh, modes from the

1078
01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:44.679
previous game, stunts like all that
other Like there was a lot of stuff

1079
01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:46.920
that was in the previous game that's
just straight up not here, which is

1080
01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:49.320
weird because in a lot of ways, it just looks like they just took

1081
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:53.760
the previous track Mania game the core
of it, yeah, and then added

1082
01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:58.320
a new renderer, and then made
a new car model and and you know,

1083
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:00.920
altered the driving model and said,
all right, yeah, we're cool.

1084
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:04.840
I just I really like the the
you know, the abstract nature of

1085
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:08.639
a lot of the track designs,
because it's it's not just like you have

1086
01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:11.760
this contiguous ribbon of track. It's
like, all right, you're gonna turn

1087
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:15.400
this corner and then you have to
jump over this like gap edge here.

1088
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:17.079
It's like you could just drive around
this spot, but you're not gonna get

1089
01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:20.880
the good time if you do that, So hit these speed and then all

1090
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:24.319
sudden there's no track for a while. And when you're on dirt, you

1091
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:26.800
drip. You know, you're you're
sliding and drifting all over the place.

1092
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:29.680
You know, keep yourself going straight. It's like, all right, then

1093
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:32.039
you're gonna you're gonna drive on these
boost strips and then you're gonna go straight

1094
01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:34.960
up this wall and you drive on
the side of this wall for a while

1095
01:08:35.079 --> 01:08:38.399
and you're gonna come down. You'renna
have to, you know, drift around

1096
01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:43.439
this corner behind this other big ramp. It's it's just it's and and you

1097
01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:45.039
have to. There's so many times
where it's like, all right, leap

1098
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:47.800
a faith here. I hope that
I am going fast enough to connect to

1099
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:50.800
this next piece of track, because
if I'm not, I'm just gonna hit

1100
01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:54.800
this ledge and then I might as
well to start from the beginning because my

1101
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:58.279
time is gonna be shit. So
uh, it's it is. I mean,

1102
01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:00.960
that's the part that's brutal about it
is it is within any session,

1103
01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:06.079
it is just this repetition. It's
just this, do this perform this track

1104
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:10.479
for six minutes. Yeah, for
for five or six minutes or ten minutes.

1105
01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:13.239
Every you know, it's you know, adjusted accordingly. And most of

1106
01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:15.279
them my server sent to six minutes. And most of the ones that I

1107
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:18.079
played have been really short. Most
of the like under two minutes per run,

1108
01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:21.800
per run, so yeah, I
mean, the the good track length

1109
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:25.600
it's probably around a minute. Yeah, there's something to be said for the

1110
01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:28.319
tracks that are like fifteen or twenty
seconds. Yeah, in terms of just

1111
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:30.319
like, you know, then you're
really just like I gotta get better.

1112
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:32.439
I gotta get better. You know, you're you're that's all condensed and that's

1113
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:38.399
kind of cool, But over a
minute it starts to get a little well.

1114
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.239
The problem then is like, ah, there was just a random caught

1115
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:44.000
a weird edge, and it's like
your whole run, you have to do

1116
01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:46.319
so much more to get back,
and especially when you're like you're saying when

1117
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.359
you only have five or six minutes, it's like that's That's the only thing

1118
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:55.359
that I don't know how you fix
in track Mania is when you get to

1119
01:09:55.399 --> 01:09:58.439
the point of I literally don't have
enough time to make another four run here.

1120
01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:00.239
But that's when you spend donuts at
the intr the track until time expose.

1121
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:03.000
That's what I figured out. But
if your horn over and over there

1122
01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:08.000
needs to be I don't know,
there needs to go through weird end game.

1123
01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:11.399
I don't know. Yeah, where
you're shooting, you're shooting guitars to

1124
01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:14.520
knock them off because you can't It's
like I can't do anything meaningful here,

1125
01:10:14.600 --> 01:10:15.960
but I have to run out the
clock anyway. So yeah, everyone goes

1126
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:18.199
into that's what it kind of becomes
a chat room. Yeah, you know.

1127
01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:21.239
It's also the interesting thing about this, and you know with us running

1128
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:26.159
a server and stuff like that,
now you know people that speak English are

1129
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:30.199
playing the game, which was not
often the case with with the track Mania.

1130
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:33.119
You know, you got gg that's
all. Yeah, if you were

1131
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:41.399
lucky you got that. That game
to me is this is This is kind

1132
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:45.039
of what the future of Ridge Racers
should have been. I feel like like

1133
01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:49.199
track Mania is drinking Namco's milkshake on
this one. It's like, yeah,

1134
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:54.640
crazy, accessible, over the top, wild ass arcade racer. Yeah,

1135
01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:59.159
but from like a complete like the
origin couldn't be further away from where Ridge

1136
01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:01.720
Racers started. But the product there
that they're making. If you know,

1137
01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:06.399
if Namco had any sense and Nadia
had an already hooked up with Ubisoft,

1138
01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:10.960
that seems like that would have been
a natural fit between the two. Yeah.

1139
01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:14.359
I mean the Bugbear game actually with
their block based track editor. Yeah,

1140
01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.319
you know, that's that seems very
track MANI alike to me that they

1141
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:20.600
do have that block based stuff.
It was French, right, yep,

1142
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:27.920
I'm all the family over there Mania. Yeah. So the server is called

1143
01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:32.560
Giant Bomb Official Classic Holds fifty dudes, uh, and it's it's set up

1144
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:35.640
in California. If you want to
dig down through the layers, they're a

1145
01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:38.800
lot like six servers in California,
I think. So, you know,

1146
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:40.960
oh really that many? Last time
I choked, it was like coo,

1147
01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:45.880
yeah, yeah, So how do
I get my tracks to you? We

1148
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:49.520
have a thread on the boards we
have a thread and track Mania two about

1149
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:54.640
the server. Just post your post
your track to the Mania exchange, post

1150
01:11:54.680 --> 01:12:02.319
your gopher link and then yes archie
the gopher to and and basically post coach

1151
01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:09.039
on our track media mud upload the
tracks somewhere preferably Mania Exchange, and and

1152
01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:12.199
then you get down and then tell
me where it is okay, and then

1153
01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:15.000
send me a link to it on
that thread. I'm checked, But first

1154
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:18.920
figure out how to open up the
track editor. If it yeah, it

1155
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:21.000
might not be so bad, but
yeah, we have a couple of guys

1156
01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:24.920
on the boards that have made some
some pretty good tracks. I just want

1157
01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:29.039
to see. I added like four
really cool tracks last night, and then

1158
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:32.039
a race like six. We have
one hundred and forty tracks on that server,

1159
01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:35.079
which is way too many. A
lot of them are pretty bad,

1160
01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:40.399
and so basically there's a karma system. People can vote yes no on on

1161
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:45.439
track. So once things get to
like negative ten overall, no, I

1162
01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:47.199
have to I have to go.
But you can just see like, oh,

1163
01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:49.399
people hate this track. I have
to log into the server, and

1164
01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:53.640
then there's a command I can issue
that causes a really shitty pop up window

1165
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:59.279
to appear that lists the tracks in
karmic order, and then on my MacBook,

1166
01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:04.960
I have the web browser open to
the administration panel for the company that

1167
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:08.720
I'm paying to run this stuff,
and from there I delete the tracks.

1168
01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:12.159
But that administration panel only exists because
you're paying someone, right, Otherwise you'd

1169
01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:15.920
be in their raw editing crazy file. Actually that with the plugins and stuff

1170
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:18.399
that are running, you can you
can just type a race track and it'll

1171
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:20.600
erase the carent track. So I
probably could do it that way, but

1172
01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:25.479
since the server has to be restarted
every time I add new music, I

1173
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:29.000
need to do it through their stuff
because I can back up the track list

1174
01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:30.600
and back up other stuff that way. And so your music, what kind

1175
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:34.239
of hot tracks are planning? When
you're an hour track mini server I put?

1176
01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:41.079
I put that that Katie perry et
Excellent Step remix, just say I

1177
01:13:41.119 --> 01:13:45.039
would hope for a high representation of
dub step in there. So what else?

1178
01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:50.439
I found a share bass nectar remix
of Where Is My Mind? By

1179
01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:55.560
the Pixies and put that in there. Can you get a drumm and bass

1180
01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:58.000
version of the Sesame Street theme in
there while you're at it? So I

1181
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:00.319
could probably put that in there basically, and you know, people are just

1182
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:04.880
fucking complaining like crazy. You're just
like random people joining them. What the

1183
01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:09.399
fuck? There's only five songs on
there at first, so it was an

1184
01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:12.039
awful lot of share and an awful
lot of that Katy Perry song. Then

1185
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:14.880
the Katy Perry one seems to be
the one that gets the most hate.

1186
01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:18.039
Really, it wasn't even share at
all. Their share. I added the

1187
01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:27.760
Buckner and Garcia Classic very good because
you know what, what other track Mania

1188
01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:31.720
server is run by a website that
has had a song written about them by

1189
01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:35.479
the guys what rope pac Man Fever
to my knowledge zero, So this is

1190
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:41.319
clearly the best track Mania server on
the internet. Jeff, you uh,

1191
01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:45.279
you get into anything else you want
to talk about? What you want to

1192
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:50.199
talk about Burnout Crash. Yeah,
okay, you played a lot more of

1193
01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:55.199
it than I have. That that
game is cool and it will be a

1194
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:59.399
better iPad game someday. It's that
game is not good enough. This is

1195
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:06.399
not Jeff sitting before us. I
understand what he means by that, because

1196
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:14.479
it's, uh, the basic controls
in that game, it's you don't really

1197
01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:15.840
do a lot in that game,
and the the main mode, like the

1198
01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:21.199
ordering of the main mode is terrible. So compared to the other modes,

1199
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:25.359
this game is laid out is like
you have this this you know, main

1200
01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:28.720
page, and it's it's like a
you know, a big long road and

1201
01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:32.079
along the way you're basically unlocking new
locations. And when you first unlock a

1202
01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:35.279
location, all you can do is
this this primary mode, I forget what

1203
01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:39.720
they call it? A road trip? Yeah, yeah, is that the

1204
01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:43.880
road trip one? Yeah? Okay, uh, But it's basically you are

1205
01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:46.479
you're at this intersection, you drive
into this intersection, you have your initial

1206
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:50.079
crash, and then you'll see cars
coming in from the different sides of the

1207
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:54.119
intersection, and and you get little
arrows, get a little warning is basically

1208
01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:56.279
saying like, hey, cars are
you know, we have this many stacked

1209
01:15:56.359 --> 01:16:00.319
up over here and they're going to
start activating now. And you know,

1210
01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:02.920
as crashes happened, you're building up
your crash meter, so you can pop

1211
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:06.239
that, create a little explosion kind
of try and start some chain round and

1212
01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:09.800
then use after touch to float your
car around. But you're after touch you

1213
01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:15.439
don't have even on the lightest vehicle, like the the buggy is not great

1214
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:18.319
or it's it's it's balanced. So
you know, you have this a bunch

1215
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:21.319
of different vehicles that you can choose, and it's you know, the big

1216
01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:26.079
heavy like cargo truck explodes huge,
but you don't have a huge amount of

1217
01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:30.039
aftertouch, and the buggy can move
really you know, a lot more easily,

1218
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:32.600
but the explosion doesn't do that much, doesn't have that much impact.

1219
01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:36.720
But yeah, either way, the
amount of moving, the amount of actual

1220
01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:42.680
control you have over the action doesn't
seem like it's great. There isn't There

1221
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:44.960
isn't a lot of it, and
it's long like that. First, the

1222
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:47.800
initial mode is like you're in there
for probably like what four or five minutes

1223
01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:51.840
or something like that ideally because the
other thing and you can't let the cars

1224
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:57.119
escape any any you can let five. Once you let five, it's automatic,

1225
01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:00.079
automatic, game over. Huh.
At the same time, you're trying

1226
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:05.119
to like basically build up this meter
to hit these these milestones within the match,

1227
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:09.760
because it has a hard end each
each one of these, uh you

1228
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:13.920
know, kind of encounters or whatever
it has Like well, no, it's

1229
01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:16.239
not that, it's build You build
up this meter and then like this big

1230
01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:19.600
super event happens at the end and
you get some bonuses out of that.

1231
01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:23.239
But I feel like this, like
a lot of the times, the super

1232
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:27.840
event yeah cuts you off, like
you could do better if you actually were

1233
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:30.439
using the cars to you know,
blow up the buildings. And there's a

1234
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:33.720
lot of hidden there's like three hidden
sports cars in a hidden gold car on

1235
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:36.920
East not really hidden, but they're
kind of away from the car. Yeah.

1236
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.680
Yeah, you gotta take a little
more effort and you get a lot

1237
01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:45.479
of bonus points for blowing up and
basically shooting a car into another car,

1238
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:50.640
like they call them skill shots.
Uh, so you're you're trying, it's

1239
01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:54.279
it's you you're kind of serving multiple
masters with like, Okay, I gotta

1240
01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:57.760
make sure that all these cars don't
get away from me. So I'm trying

1241
01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:00.079
to just you know, block these
intersections. But then occasionally you'll have a

1242
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:03.159
bonus vehicle that comes through that you
want to let through because that'll knock one

1243
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:08.119
of the you know, X's off
of your list if you can allow him

1244
01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:11.960
to get through successfully. But it
sounds like there's variety in it, but

1245
01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:15.279
is it too much? But the
problem is that is that so that that

1246
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:17.199
mode is not the best once you
and that's the one you have to do

1247
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:21.319
first on every single track before you
open up the other two by completing at

1248
01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:27.439
once. So and the other ones, like one of them is limited by

1249
01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:30.039
cars, Like you're there will only
be twenty five cars to come into this

1250
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:34.640
intersection, so you want to try
and keep them as close together and pristine

1251
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:39.439
through the majority of that match as
you can, and then you'll have kind

1252
01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:44.079
of basically an end game where you
can pop and build your your fast breaker

1253
01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:46.319
a lot more quickly. So it's
like you're trying to keep as much fuel

1254
01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:54.600
for explosions on the map as you
can and then not cars and dump set

1255
01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:56.880
them on fire, blow stuff up. And I didn't like that mode.

1256
01:18:57.199 --> 01:19:00.560
That is my least favorite mode.
I like it better than the the road

1257
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:02.760
trip one because I yeah, I
really don't like the one that's time limited,

1258
01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:08.159
the ninety second one that's that's the
mode. So you just just like

1259
01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:16.199
a size But as you march down
this path, uh like there's different kind

1260
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:20.079
of layouts, but it's you're doing
the exact same things. There's always like

1261
01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:25.800
a lookout for emergency vehicle, let
let him through, or uh here comes

1262
01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:30.720
a pizza truck. Also uh awful
sounding game, I really I find I

1263
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:36.399
find the like the music samples and
stuff that they trot out every single session.

1264
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:39.199
I guess you have played a lot
more of it than I have.

1265
01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:42.479
I still find it novel well.
Also, it was great when when the

1266
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:45.439
road freezes, it plays ice Ice
Baby for a few seconds. And I

1267
01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:49.479
get now why they compare it to
a pinball machine, because every single mode,

1268
01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:53.479
every single thing has a theme song. So every time the ambulance appears,

1269
01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:56.119
it plays a song for one thing. I had to. I didn't

1270
01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:58.600
have to, but I listened to
you play it a bunch before I even

1271
01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:01.000
touched it, so I it was
already familiar with, like what the sound

1272
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:03.600
like, what the queues, the
doctor beats, you know, sound cue

1273
01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:08.000
whenever the ambulance comes on, or
you know, it's raining men for this

1274
01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:12.359
part, or whatever little sound clip
that they decided to use. That's that's

1275
01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:15.560
part of it. But also English
dudes trying to not do English dude accents

1276
01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:19.439
and then and then blowing it holy
shit. Every time the guy talks,

1277
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:23.279
it's it's only really in the tutorial. For the most part, he talks

1278
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:27.720
like because there's the DJ on every
level, and it's different as you progress,

1279
01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:30.199
and so it's like, no,
he's a surfer dude, but English

1280
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:34.319
going dude. Save the dude very
well, No, no, none of

1281
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:38.640
that's yeah, whoever, yeah,
whoever'd of the voice is obviously a British

1282
01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:44.960
dude and had closed like one line
per sentence or one line per paragraph or

1283
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:48.720
something like reveals his nature. Yeah, and it sticks out. It sticks

1284
01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:53.439
out hard, sticks out pretty hard. And so I've got I blew through

1285
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:55.760
all like I unlocked everything, and
I blew through all the maps, and

1286
01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:00.399
uh, it's it just gets repetitive. And that's because because there are there

1287
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:03.319
are all those constants. There are
you haven't played much with connexses all with

1288
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:08.159
controller, there are all those constants, Like you know, okay, I

1289
01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:11.760
can't let like I'm gonna have to
do this road trip mode every one of

1290
01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:15.600
these to keep progressing. And I
know I can't let five cars off the

1291
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:17.279
map or else I won't get to
play as long. And I really want

1292
01:21:17.279 --> 01:21:20.119
to try and go for these you
know, these hidden sports cars or the

1293
01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:23.960
gold car. You know there's a
hole over there. I definitely want to

1294
01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:26.039
try and you know, shoot some
cars in there. So it's it's like

1295
01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:30.800
you you learn the basic strategy pretty
early on and then it's just repeating that

1296
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:32.560
strategy over. It's not like like, oh, I have found the meta

1297
01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:35.119
game in this somehow. You know, I got lucky and so that's why

1298
01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:39.079
I have a hundred million on this
one. Let's move on. So the

1299
01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:43.640
thing having not played the game at
all, Yeah, just from like basically

1300
01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:46.439
the quick look to ex and stuff
what we've seen. I feel like when

1301
01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:53.439
I see that game, it is
literally just a multiplayer party game, like

1302
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:57.600
it is something that you want to
It seems like it would be very repetitive

1303
01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:00.960
to try and grind through single players
styles. But like individual mode is long

1304
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:03.680
enough that like having people standing there
going like waiting to play, well,

1305
01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:06.439
maybe they were shorter like when we
when we did that four player thing,

1306
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:10.520
it seemed like the whole thing was
like the tension of like is this guy

1307
01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:13.159
gonna beat my score this round?
Oh, you got really lucky, because

1308
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:15.359
it seems like there was a lot
of random stuff happening. They build all

1309
01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:18.880
the autologue stuff into it so compete
against you kind of sense challenges and constantly

1310
01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:21.960
go back and forth if you want
to do that. The autologue stuff,

1311
01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:26.640
like you know, it's functionally like
it's the same as what they had in

1312
01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:30.760
Hot Pursuit last year. But it
doesn't work. And by that I mean

1313
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:36.239
like without a variety of tasks to
perform, without like like real variety,

1314
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:40.439
Like okay, they've got maybe I
don't know. It was like twenty probably

1315
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:45.840
different intersection locations, and there's like
four or five different kind of thematic zones

1316
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:48.720
that you go through. I saw
the lobster monster. He's very big,

1317
01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:53.079
worthy of blow up near him?
What did it do? No, he's

1318
01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:55.640
this he's the super effects. Okay, all right, he's the thing that

1319
01:22:55.680 --> 01:23:00.399
comes through the end all so scarcely
children. He blew me up. Really.

1320
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:05.000
Now you drive away as you spend
several minutes just exploding, and then

1321
01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:09.319
you're like all right later and then
take off like what what how did I

1322
01:23:09.439 --> 01:23:13.520
do that? I don't understand to
ask anything about what's going on? Uh.

1323
01:23:14.520 --> 01:23:15.880
That's a game that I can see
being a lot more fun. Again,

1324
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:21.279
back to Jet's point of you know, short bursts on an iPad something

1325
01:23:21.359 --> 01:23:27.079
like that, the controls aren't so
specific that if you were touching on the

1326
01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:30.039
screen the screen to explode, tilts
to tilt, Yeah, tilt after touch

1327
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:33.920
after that'll totally work. That'll be
fine. That'll be absolutely fine, right,

1328
01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:38.560
because the Connect controls are pretty hands
off too. It's it's I think

1329
01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:41.880
it's like move forward in the backwards
in the space to move the arrow,

1330
01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:45.119
yeah, and then jump. I
have tried it since we got the final

1331
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:47.479
version, but but playing it with
Connect, like I was having trouble figuring

1332
01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:49.920
out like should I be leaning,
should be stepping? I think it's I

1333
01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:54.640
think it's like move within the space. I think that's what you were doing,

1334
01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:59.880
and then do the posture to the
special posture they give you to explode

1335
01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:03.199
you jump to. It's random for
the mode that we were playing. It's

1336
01:24:03.279 --> 01:24:06.239
like, okay, do this different
lang yeah, yeah, and cheerlead or

1337
01:24:06.399 --> 01:24:09.439
that hands up in the air.
That's ridiculous, that's kind of cool.

1338
01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:12.640
I guess you know. I haven't
beyond that meeting that we took with the

1339
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:16.119
criterion guys, I haven't seen any
of the Connects stuff. But yeah,

1340
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:20.000
it's and and the like. Once
I got to the end and I hadn't

1341
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:26.800
played like all of the I didn't
do like all three event types for every

1342
01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:32.000
intersection or anything. But even still
like looking at achievements and whatever, because

1343
01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:34.439
once you once you finish the last
one, it's just like credits role and

1344
01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:39.000
then back to the menu. I
could see what you guys are saying about

1345
01:24:39.039 --> 01:24:42.199
the sessions being too long for multiplayer
fun, because that is definitely one of

1346
01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:45.800
the big draws. My point is
that it's is that it's not fun.

1347
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:47.920
It's not really fun in single player
for long stretch as eye. That's a

1348
01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:51.760
game, I think to make that
more fun. That's a game that you

1349
01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:55.760
play, you know, one or
two, and then go and do something

1350
01:24:55.800 --> 01:24:59.800
else. But even even if you
are really long, yeah, that intro

1351
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:01.479
load time is weirdly long. Yeah, but even if you had people over,

1352
01:25:01.920 --> 01:25:04.840
you're right, you don't want to
be out of the game for four

1353
01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:12.359
minutes at a time watching somebody else
explode like it doesn't seem like people,

1354
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:15.960
I think, and I think that
what they chose to do with the structure

1355
01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:19.840
of it is it's probably the thing
that does it the most harm, the

1356
01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:27.000
way that it kind of forces you
into experiencing certain yeahs of content in that

1357
01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:30.239
way, because you're right that that
mode is not the best game. If

1358
01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:32.119
they just swapped it so that the
ninety second mode was the mandatory one,

1359
01:25:32.840 --> 01:25:36.399
automatically better game, it's just not
even yeah, because that that main mode

1360
01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:42.319
isn't even like the best introduction,
like you're having to be you have to

1361
01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:46.119
play so much more conservatively in that
mode because I can't. I can't just

1362
01:25:46.199 --> 01:25:49.399
like blow up constantly because if I'm
over in this corner and then four cars

1363
01:25:49.439 --> 01:25:54.680
going to the intersection. Games it's
it's, yes, they you definitely cannot

1364
01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:58.439
get as chaotic as you think you
would be able to with a game focused

1365
01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:01.000
on you exploding over and over.
Actually, like none of the modes really

1366
01:26:01.199 --> 01:26:05.279
capitalize on that, Yeah, terrifically, Like for all the promise of we

1367
01:26:05.399 --> 01:26:10.800
took the driving outs and now it's
just exploding. Uh, it's not as

1368
01:26:10.840 --> 01:26:14.439
good as it is. It's not
as things you have to do to get

1369
01:26:14.439 --> 01:26:16.600
a decent score from the people who
brought you fucking burnouts. God damn it.

1370
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:20.279
So how much is how much is
it going for? Is it ten?

1371
01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:25.079
It's ten? Ten downloadable? Is
eight hundred points or ninety nine?

1372
01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:28.560
Has he download? I think it's
ten dollars worth of fun so far you're

1373
01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:33.840
still figuring it out. It's it's
not terrible, that's for sure. Like

1374
01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:40.399
I like it's I enjoyed it for
a while and then it just yeah,

1375
01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:43.840
it just kind of lost it.
Just it's it's not I'm telling you man,

1376
01:26:43.880 --> 01:26:45.680
you put that on a phone,
but that I don't know, I

1377
01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:47.680
pad. We should be clear.
I don't know that they have any if

1378
01:26:47.680 --> 01:26:50.359
they've announced any sort of plans for
anything like that. Yeah, I don't

1379
01:26:50.359 --> 01:26:54.479
know. They very early on,
we're very clear about plans about that,

1380
01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:58.399
and then didn't announce any of them. Okay, yeah it was. It

1381
01:26:58.479 --> 01:27:00.680
was because it was literally conveyed to
me that they were announcing the iPad,

1382
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:05.239
the iPad two version at games Colm, and I don't I don't know if

1383
01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:09.600
that happened or not, So I
don't know. Well, plans are no,

1384
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:13.000
I agree with that assessment of that
game. They how to be started

1385
01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:16.079
as we game. If you remember
from that interview, they had been working

1386
01:27:16.119 --> 01:27:20.119
on it on the Wii for a
while and then didn't put it out all

1387
01:27:20.119 --> 01:27:24.479
the way. So that that shows
in certain elements of that game for sure.

1388
01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:30.239
Yeah, mm hmm, tracks is
planning I play anything else? Yeah,

1389
01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:39.760
track Mania two is out play that
building building box you had to you

1390
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:42.840
or you didn't have to, but
just to kind of speak to how weird

1391
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:47.119
and and effed up track Mania two
is you essentially paid for that game twice.

1392
01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:55.079
You you were you bought it as
part of the e didn't so so

1393
01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:57.079
you bought it as part of the
Bata things, Yes, which got you

1394
01:27:57.119 --> 01:28:00.720
into the final game. Yes.
Uh. And and right around the time

1395
01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:02.520
that they switched from all right,
we're going for beta and now it's a

1396
01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:05.840
full it's a real boy in right, we got some press codes for the

1397
01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:10.359
game, and I'm and I'm like, I don't know if this is different

1398
01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:11.960
from what you have, Jeff,
So I'm just gonna forward you one of

1399
01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:14.319
these codes. You can do what
you want, and these are the things.

1400
01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:16.159
The person who sent us the codes
was like, oh, he's in

1401
01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:19.720
the beta. Okay, well here's
some codes for the retail like like the

1402
01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:21.920
like the UBI. I don't know
if I don't know if people can get

1403
01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:28.000
into the could have gotten into the
beta without a game key already basically so

1404
01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:30.880
on their website, you go,
you can log in with your media account

1405
01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:34.800
and then go into uh you know, a menu where you can just feed

1406
01:28:34.840 --> 01:28:39.920
it player keys and it'll take as
many as you feed. It just gobbled

1407
01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:42.239
it right up. Like okay,
yeah, he's like that thinks there you

1408
01:28:42.319 --> 01:28:45.359
go, cool, cool, run
on, you got any more of those

1409
01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:48.640
and it didn't change anything. I
don't, I don't mean its great.

1410
01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:55.319
Did you get more more planets?
I think I got five thousand more planets,

1411
01:28:55.359 --> 01:28:59.199
which I then used to invite people
to our group, which is unfortunate

1412
01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:03.319
because they could have just been spending
their planets to join the group, just

1413
01:29:03.359 --> 01:29:08.760
splendant planets to download the game?
What? Wait? So you just buy

1414
01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:12.600
planets and then no buy the game. When you buy the game, you

1415
01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:15.720
download it and that's fine. But
if you want to download it again hundred

1416
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:19.279
planets? What? Yeah? Why
if you you know, if you bone

1417
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:23.880
up your if you lose the install
files, you need to download it again?

1418
01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:26.119
How many? How many points to
invite someone to your group? Hundred?

1419
01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:31.079
Why? Because because crazy people?
If you can have you have fifty

1420
01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:35.640
slots on your friends list, fifty
one, one hundred and fifty planets to

1421
01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:41.439
add a slot. Why do you
have to spend points that invite somebody to

1422
01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:46.880
your group to play with I don't
know. There's no manuals anything, It's

1423
01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:51.039
just the truth. I think.
If if you're running a dedicated official ladder

1424
01:29:51.159 --> 01:29:57.479
server, you get planets on an
hourly basis per player, are you running

1425
01:29:57.560 --> 01:30:01.279
that? But no, Okay,
I'm running it an unofficial so in order

1426
01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:05.159
to switch it from like a just
an unranked ladder server to a real ladder

1427
01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:11.880
server, I have to give them
a deposit of ten thousand planets. This

1428
01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:18.720
doesn't make sense. And for higher
as deposit, well, if you if

1429
01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:21.000
you don't like to stay in the
carpet or something, you can get that.

1430
01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:25.840
It says deposit on the screen.
If I want to create an organization

1431
01:30:26.199 --> 01:30:28.600
in game, which I think might
be a plant, I don't know,

1432
01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:32.359
is that planets? That's even more? That's like that might be one hundred

1433
01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:36.720
thousand plant. How many planets do
start with? Like five thousand? Okay,

1434
01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:42.039
so one hundred and fifty planets not
that much? Well, I mean

1435
01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:45.159
if you brown through that first five
like I don't know, I'm I don't

1436
01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:47.960
play great for getting a gold medal
on a track, Uh, you get

1437
01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:56.359
sixty planets? Oh that is a
lot then yeah? Yeah, for for

1438
01:30:56.560 --> 01:31:00.199
going up a thousand spots on the
ladder or earning earning a thousand ladder points,

1439
01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:05.399
you get I want to say,
five hundred two hundred not a lot?

1440
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:09.600
Does it cost you planets? If
you like? Log out? No,

1441
01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:13.760
I quit the game. No,
quitting the game is free launching the

1442
01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:17.640
game. That's fifty planets. And
so every time I log in now,

1443
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:19.840
like I got a bunch of friend
requests when I created the group and the

1444
01:31:19.840 --> 01:31:25.560
server and all this stuff, and
h accepted all of them, and it

1445
01:31:25.720 --> 01:31:28.039
let me accept all of them.
And now every time I log in,

1446
01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:30.439
it says, hey, you have
more than fifty friends. You need to

1447
01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:33.800
deal with this, or we will. But like, it'll just cut my

1448
01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:39.279
most recent friends down to fifty at
some point, at some point. But

1449
01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:45.119
the fact that it'll let you add
friends, what who made this game?

1450
01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:48.039
So I envisioned? So I envisioned
a scenario. What if you spend all

1451
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:50.399
your planets? Because you can also
send plants to other players, you can

1452
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:54.159
donate to their server, and it
goes to the player. They take a

1453
01:31:54.279 --> 01:32:00.199
tax out when they do that.
Nadeo takes like a percent of What do

1454
01:32:00.279 --> 01:32:02.960
they care about planets? They want
they want the in game money to mean

1455
01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:06.119
something, so they need as many
different drains for it as possible. Right,

1456
01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:13.119
the economy just accumulates with it.
Yeah, so everyone's planet rich.

1457
01:32:13.359 --> 01:32:18.920
What happens if you spend all your
planets on cars and and additional friends slots,

1458
01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:24.560
and then your hard drive crashes and
you have no planets and you don't

1459
01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:28.760
have the game anymore. Right,
do you think you accrue planets in the

1460
01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:31.479
background on their server. No,
you log in to get those planets,

1461
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:35.039
so it's on log in. I
would guess that you get your daily planets

1462
01:32:35.399 --> 01:32:38.479
or weekly planets, or however they
end up giving them to you. Can

1463
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:43.159
you can you spend money to buy
planets? Ever? No, you can

1464
01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:45.359
buy if you buy another copy of
the game and feed of that player key.

1465
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:47.039
I think you get another five thousand, because I think that's how I

1466
01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:51.039
ended up with ten thousand. I
don't know, man, messed up.

1467
01:32:51.079 --> 01:32:56.079
It's a weird mess up. Change
my disk into planets. You guys should

1468
01:32:56.079 --> 01:32:59.439
play it. You guys should play
I want should play it. You should

1469
01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:01.279
play it. It's so fucking weird. I'm gonna build World one one.

1470
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:09.720
It's so weird. It's hit the
block and the car comes out. Anything

1471
01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:13.319
non Mania related, Jeff, you
want to I'm pretty much all Mania all

1472
01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:17.399
the time, just manic. Yeah, there's a lot of that going around.

1473
01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:25.039
Donnas retch maker going, man,
how you doing? How's reside Evil

1474
01:33:25.119 --> 01:33:31.640
four? In high definition functional competence? That all great back of box quotes

1475
01:33:32.720 --> 01:33:38.520
dot dot dot okay works as advertising. I'm sorry, what did you say?

1476
01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:42.840
What is that product? I don't
know if it's actually called Reside Evil

1477
01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:45.680
four HD. I don't think that's
like the full official title. Are there

1478
01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:48.960
other resident Evils in it? No, it's just for so in Japan they

1479
01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:54.960
put this out on a disk bundled
with Code Veronica. Yeah, so that's

1480
01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:58.840
what I wanted to clarify X.
Yeah. Yeah, well god they're okay,

1481
01:33:58.840 --> 01:34:00.960
there are multiple levels of Claire case
you need to take place here?

1482
01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:02.920
What what is code Vernica X?
Is that different? Was the updated version

1483
01:34:02.920 --> 01:34:09.520
they put out one? And maybe
it was just but it's more than just

1484
01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:14.760
the Dreamcast version? Yeah? They
I think sure. So the Dreamcast it

1485
01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:16.000
was one of the things where they
added like meats in this one, you

1486
01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:19.640
know, like added it some kind
of didditional mode meat meat. He's like

1487
01:34:19.680 --> 01:34:23.560
the unlockable character that's been in mean
hunk yeah, hunk. Yeah? What

1488
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:29.640
uh was Codevernic? It was the
first one where they actually had polygonal backgrounds.

1489
01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:32.600
Yes, it wasn't. It wasn't
just I think that's yes, that

1490
01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:36.600
it was. The Dreamcast one was
the first one on the Dreamcast. I

1491
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:41.000
think they Yeah, I think x
was maybe some some bonus feature stuff and

1492
01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:43.640
cleaned up some graphics a little bit. But so what's that. Okay,

1493
01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:45.279
that's not out yet. Actually that's
not out until next week. Yeah,

1494
01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:51.520
and there four came out this week
and they're releasing that as a separate But

1495
01:34:51.560 --> 01:34:54.600
the reason, the reason I bring
it up is that in Japan, this

1496
01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:56.600
all came out on a disc and
it was on the same disc, right,

1497
01:34:56.920 --> 01:35:00.079
is that correct? Yeah, Sovernica
and Or came out on this disc

1498
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:04.239
on p S three n xbox in
Japan. Biohazard chronicles like three weeks ago

1499
01:35:04.319 --> 01:35:09.399
or something or a month ago,
and this here they have they have elected

1500
01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:12.960
to break them up and sell them
for twenty bucks a piece on games on

1501
01:35:13.039 --> 01:35:15.920
Demand slash PSN. It's not even
XPLA. Yeah, games on demand.

1502
01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:18.600
So that's part of what's so weird
about this, because it's it's a games

1503
01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:24.600
on demand release because of yeah,
it's it's like three points six gig download

1504
01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:28.119
and XPLA games top out it a
little over two. Bradley, what else

1505
01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:31.439
is going on? Managa? Ops? Yeah, yeah, I only played

1506
01:35:31.479 --> 01:35:34.800
through like the first mission. I
played the entirety of that game since last

1507
01:35:34.880 --> 01:35:39.079
we spoke. Yeah, it's still
good. Yeah, games awesome, Play

1508
01:35:39.279 --> 01:35:44.119
play some more. Mission five.
I think Avalanche fellows no thing or two

1509
01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:46.439
about explosions. Yeah, stuff blows
up real really, you know how to

1510
01:35:46.479 --> 01:35:49.600
make explosions look real good? Why
would you pick anyone other than the air

1511
01:35:49.640 --> 01:35:53.039
strike barrel. I played some of
the other characters, and they have their

1512
01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:56.760
uses, Okay, the guy with
the don't fend the airstrikes super useful either

1513
01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:59.720
subdue I don't know, the air
strike once you get the ability that makes

1514
01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:01.479
it hit as soon as you use
it, Okay, Because because when you

1515
01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:03.960
first go through that first mission,
before you have any points to sink into

1516
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:09.880
anything, it's a Yeah, there's
like a three second delaynificant delay and like

1517
01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:12.960
and a lot of the targets in
that first mission are mobile and there are

1518
01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:16.399
four air strikes happening at the same
time. It's shit. I love the

1519
01:36:16.520 --> 01:36:20.600
structure of that, Yeah, I
love the like amazing, Like you have

1520
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:24.439
this other kind of like side mission
that's going on right now. You can

1521
01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:28.199
run around and go these encampments and
rescue these dudes if you want, and

1522
01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:30.039
you get more XP for doing that, and then your jeep levels up,

1523
01:36:30.159 --> 01:36:32.439
but then you've got this clock to
or you know, you don't even know

1524
01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:34.840
that the clock is taking until it
hits this certain point, like all right,

1525
01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:38.479
you've got this much time to finish
your main objective or else you're It's

1526
01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:41.720
it's kind of fun with multiplayer because
you can actually split up and just are

1527
01:36:41.800 --> 01:36:43.800
you are you gonna do that one? I'm going to take care of this.

1528
01:36:43.960 --> 01:36:45.560
Yeah, that sounds awesome. I
only play. The way they notify

1529
01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:49.199
you that your time is about to
run out is amazing. There is no

1530
01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:54.439
fucking way you can miss that,
Like it goes completely black and white,

1531
01:36:54.520 --> 01:36:58.039
it slows down to about a tenth
of the speed. Yeah, and then

1532
01:36:58.079 --> 01:37:00.520
it's just like boom, you got
three minutes your ass. And and I

1533
01:37:01.039 --> 01:37:04.800
read your review and I liked it, and you mentioned the point I didn't

1534
01:37:04.840 --> 01:37:11.680
realize that the like your your CEO
having his fill was basically the opening study.

1535
01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:14.119
It's great, like they say,
every set, all the story and

1536
01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:15.840
everything in motion right there, and
he's like, I got no time for

1537
01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:19.720
you, Namby Pamby diplomats just like
him and Hong like wringing their hands about

1538
01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:24.640
what do we do? He literally
pulls the handful like the fistful of metals

1539
01:37:24.680 --> 01:37:28.159
off of his uniform, fucking throws
him down on the table like storms out.

1540
01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:31.760
It's amazing. It's just got big
old chops, real captain price looking

1541
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:34.520
back, Yeah, Alex. Alex
made the point that it's basically like the

1542
01:37:34.640 --> 01:37:36.960
G I. Joe game that we
always wanted, you know, Yeah,

1543
01:37:38.079 --> 01:37:41.159
like they might as well have just
given you some guys that are down for

1544
01:37:41.239 --> 01:37:45.239
this mission find your rag tag group. Yeah, it's and just like the

1545
01:37:45.279 --> 01:37:47.359
basic feel of the way the shooting
and the driving works. Yeah, there

1546
01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:53.840
is really awesome. Dude, donuts
all day long on those things. I

1547
01:37:53.880 --> 01:37:58.279
mean, just try too. But
it's good. They should. Those guys

1548
01:37:58.319 --> 01:38:02.960
should make a avalanche, should make
a iron Man. Ivan Stewart, Yeah,

1549
01:38:03.079 --> 01:38:05.039
dude, that that was the first
game I thought of. When I

1550
01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:08.720
first played that game, I was
like, this feels like super off Road.

1551
01:38:08.760 --> 01:38:14.279
There is that that looseness to it, that bumpy surfaces. Yeah,

1552
01:38:14.399 --> 01:38:16.880
it's a It's a hell of a
game for for fifteen bucks. Good stuff.

1553
01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:23.520
Somebody on our forums positive the theory
that this is them testing four player

1554
01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:26.199
co op in their engine. So
the just cause three you can have four

1555
01:38:26.239 --> 01:38:30.239
player co op. I'll take it
that happen. I still whatever, how

1556
01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:33.159
would that even work? I don't
care. I want it all right.

1557
01:38:33.199 --> 01:38:36.079
I'm gonna fly the plane. I'm
gonna buzz pass you. I want you

1558
01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:42.079
to jump onto it, hang onto
the tail of it. I'm three of

1559
01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:45.439
you players us assume the stunt position. I'm gonna fly you into this building.

1560
01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:48.479
Three dudes are hanging off. Now, everyone jump out at the last

1561
01:38:48.520 --> 01:38:51.840
second, so we get knocked down
this building. The mayhem would be unbelievable.

1562
01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:56.439
Yeah, yeah, it's a I
like to believe. And they would

1563
01:38:56.479 --> 01:39:01.279
all have great accents, all four
players. Yeah, there's some. There's

1564
01:39:01.319 --> 01:39:04.399
some good voice work in that game
as well, some some stuff. It's

1565
01:39:04.399 --> 01:39:08.640
actually decent. I like to believe
that. Renegade ops and just cause existency.

1566
01:39:09.199 --> 01:39:13.079
Yeah, that's that's all. That's
continuous. That's the Avalanche verse,

1567
01:39:14.439 --> 01:39:18.319
totally on board. Does dig Doug
also take place there? No, because

1568
01:39:18.319 --> 01:39:23.239
it's a sega so actually no,
I guess it's there is no publisher,

1569
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:28.319
right, yeah, continuity there.
But I still maintain that Renegade Ops is

1570
01:39:28.359 --> 01:39:30.640
a terrible name. It is.
It is. It's just it's too generic

1571
01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:34.920
fight men, although it is also
I guess, you know, in the

1572
01:39:35.039 --> 01:39:41.039
kind of the throwback retro jackal e
feel of that game, like that's a

1573
01:39:41.159 --> 01:39:44.039
name that a game would have had. It's it's sort of it's the bulletstorm

1574
01:39:44.119 --> 01:39:46.199
thing of how did we get to
twenty eleven and there wasn't already a game

1575
01:39:46.199 --> 01:39:50.319
called Renegade Ops. Yeah, I
feel like they really maybe there was who

1576
01:39:50.399 --> 01:39:54.880
knows, yea, I guess like
a mode in something was called It's like

1577
01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:58.039
some old Data East game. There's
nobody around to lay claim to it anymore.

1578
01:39:59.560 --> 01:40:03.520
Even the just you know, like
Russ your attack, yeah, you

1579
01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:05.920
know, and you can kind of
see around the edges. How it's you

1580
01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:09.520
know, it was probably made on
a small budget, Like there is exactly

1581
01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:12.960
one piece of artwork for each of
those characters. They never moved, they

1582
01:40:13.039 --> 01:40:16.119
never animated. I don't think you
see them in and cut scenes really slide

1583
01:40:16.159 --> 01:40:20.159
in and out of frame pretty much. They've always got the same expression I

1584
01:40:20.359 --> 01:40:25.560
tried. But the other the other
characters are are decent in some places,

1585
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:29.520
like the guy who has the armored
like shell that goes around him, because

1586
01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:31.399
you can still drive all it's on, you just can't shoot. But there's

1587
01:40:31.399 --> 01:40:33.920
a lot of places where you're getting
hit real hard with a bunch of stuff

1588
01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:38.560
at one time, and popping that
thing is down, drive through some buildings,

1589
01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:42.159
get healthy, super useful. There's
no difference in like handling models for

1590
01:40:42.239 --> 01:40:45.800
those guys thought first I thought there
was. But if there is, they

1591
01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:49.079
don't give you any kind of like
you know, bars for speed and turning

1592
01:40:49.159 --> 01:40:51.680
and stuff like that. And I
tried it again, tried to compare,

1593
01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:55.760
and like they'd seen basically the same. Uh. The skill trees are actually

1594
01:40:55.800 --> 01:40:59.159
all basically other than the skills that
pertain to your new unique special ability that

1595
01:40:59.199 --> 01:41:00.680
all the skills are the same,
they're just distributed in a different order.

1596
01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:06.720
So but interesting. It's a fun
game. I'm just try some some four

1597
01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:11.479
player there, yeah, I uh
and the quick look, we played four

1598
01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:15.199
player on a on a stage on
normal game. It's just oh yeah,

1599
01:41:15.279 --> 01:41:18.479
stupid easy on normal with four people. I'm just gonna go through like on

1600
01:41:18.600 --> 01:41:21.279
normal solo. That's the way to
do it, and get a four player

1601
01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:24.640
post to do the hard course because
by the end of the run on normal,

1602
01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:28.119
you'll like your character'll be up to
like level forty or something. Yeah

1603
01:41:28.159 --> 01:41:31.079
your level quick? Yeah you do
you ding like it's like a straight up

1604
01:41:31.159 --> 01:41:34.720
MMO ding it's just like column of
yellow light. Long. I'm like,

1605
01:41:34.840 --> 01:41:38.560
I'm too busy exploding things to hear
about that. I'll get back to you

1606
01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:41.039
in a minute. Let me up
grade later. But but I just do

1607
01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:44.920
this giant battleship that I'm shooting at
it is done exploding. Oh man,

1608
01:41:45.079 --> 01:41:46.760
I wish they used the helicopter a
little more often. Yeah, it's only

1609
01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:50.119
like two or three times. Uh. And when you die in the helicopter,

1610
01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:53.720
it's a it's a touch confused.
Yeah, they do not make it

1611
01:41:53.800 --> 01:41:57.199
exquisite that, hey, go shoot
that crate helicopter. All right, I

1612
01:41:57.239 --> 01:42:00.199
guess I'm in a buggie now,
and then I'm gonna I'm gonna find at

1613
01:42:00.239 --> 01:42:02.239
that boat now that I'm in this
buggy because you can still like drive around,

1614
01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:04.479
like there's still that path that you
can go down, Like, okay,

1615
01:42:04.600 --> 01:42:06.960
this is the only place I can
drive. Let's go still, that's

1616
01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:10.880
a little barreling down this road and
then it just ends in the ocean.

1617
01:42:11.079 --> 01:42:15.880
Like I just again, that's not
I'm clearly I'm doing something wrong. It's

1618
01:42:15.880 --> 01:42:17.840
it's a little rough, but it's
just the core of it is so much

1619
01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:20.039
fun. And I did just want
to I wanted to say. I played,

1620
01:42:20.199 --> 01:42:24.119
uh, played a little bit with
Will Smith over the weekend on hardcore.

1621
01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:27.359
Hardcore does not mess around. So
if you're gonna play, if you

1622
01:42:27.479 --> 01:42:30.279
get yeah, if you're gonna if
you're gonna play online with other people,

1623
01:42:30.359 --> 01:42:31.640
play hardcore. But it does not, it does not scale. So it's

1624
01:42:31.720 --> 01:42:34.319
yeah, it's just that's to get
your level up, then play hardcore.

1625
01:42:34.359 --> 01:42:38.479
That's what we're doing. Yeah,
so level up and have a posse.

1626
01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:44.880
Great game, Brad, just the
Gears years. I got Gears. Want

1627
01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:46.720
to go finished Gears as fast as
I can before somebody tells me what happens?

1628
01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:50.920
Pretty what happens you sounds like you're
pretty deep into it. Yeah yeah,

1629
01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:55.279
yeah, probably deep in four hours
from you said you're in act four.

1630
01:42:55.399 --> 01:42:58.279
Yeah, yeah, there's there's five
back Griffin has Yeah, Griffin has

1631
01:42:58.319 --> 01:43:00.000
sent me on the mission that he
put me on. Okay, I'm doing

1632
01:43:00.039 --> 01:43:02.359
that. I was just trying to
figure out I finished the first one really

1633
01:43:02.439 --> 01:43:08.279
really you never fought General Ram I
didn't. I got to some dumb point

1634
01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:12.600
that game where just dying behind cover
constantly, and I'm like it's one of

1635
01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:14.840
those like I'm want you put this
down for now compact to later and then

1636
01:43:14.920 --> 01:43:16.359
just never did life happens? So
that was that was Gears Too for me,

1637
01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:18.640
and and the Gears Too. I
was just like, I'll just play

1638
01:43:18.720 --> 01:43:24.479
this like, yeah, yeah,
I understand this universe well enough, speaking

1639
01:43:24.520 --> 01:43:27.840
back to kind of the simplicity of
of the scenario and the first one,

1640
01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:31.039
which is just that first game is
just about introducing the esthetic and kind of

1641
01:43:31.119 --> 01:43:35.159
the grimy tone of it all.
So what was the I feel like I

1642
01:43:35.199 --> 01:43:38.279
was missing too much. It was
the light mass bomb at the end of

1643
01:43:38.279 --> 01:43:41.520
the first one, right, you
know what happened. They played like the

1644
01:43:41.640 --> 01:43:45.479
big story parts, right if you're
trying to get that was that was the

1645
01:43:45.520 --> 01:43:47.359
focus. And the first one was
was drop that bomb, drop that bomb,

1646
01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:53.520
sink just sinto just sinto plateau.
Is that what it's called. Yeah,

1647
01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:59.039
Adam Phoenix, that's what I remember
from the second one. There's gonna

1648
01:43:59.039 --> 01:44:00.560
be a thing now, I'm Adam
Phoenix was a big deal. Yeah.

1649
01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:03.600
They definitely made him to be a
big deal on this. I can't believe

1650
01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:09.039
I'm sitting here like just speaking so
highly of Gears War three, Like I

1651
01:44:09.159 --> 01:44:12.560
just really didn't expect you know,
it was a Yeah, it was like

1652
01:44:12.600 --> 01:44:15.640
it'll be more Gears whatever. But
they kept you know, games in development

1653
01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:18.239
for a while. They showed it
off at two e threes and various events

1654
01:44:18.279 --> 01:44:20.479
and stuff like that, and I
never really spent a whole lot of time

1655
01:44:20.520 --> 01:44:24.239
looking at it. And when you
know the stuff they were saying about,

1656
01:44:24.279 --> 01:44:26.520
like, oh, you know it's
gonna be you know, more players and

1657
01:44:26.600 --> 01:44:29.000
co op and wider areas and stuff, you look at it, go that

1658
01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:30.159
looks good. Let me it looks
like Gears, but it looks good whatever.

1659
01:44:31.479 --> 01:44:33.800
Yeah. But then it seemed like
over the last like a couple of

1660
01:44:33.840 --> 01:44:36.439
weeks like of leading up to me
going and like I went and played through

1661
01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:43.399
the first act like a month ago
or something like that now, And it

1662
01:44:43.439 --> 01:44:45.479
wasn't until a couple of weeks before
that that I was like, man,

1663
01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:48.079
I actually totally want to know what
happens to the too in this game,

1664
01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:53.680
like story wise, like ill like
it was real came on suddenly of like

1665
01:44:54.119 --> 01:44:58.000
I totally want to see this ship. And then playing through the first act,

1666
01:44:58.039 --> 01:45:00.279
I was like, yeah, okay, I super want to know how

1667
01:45:00.359 --> 01:45:02.439
this actually ends. Well, you
know, it was weird. It was

1668
01:45:02.479 --> 01:45:06.199
weird to especially with the promise that
like, hey, we're gonna do some

1669
01:45:06.399 --> 01:45:11.520
stuff to move this story along or
finish it, and it was quickly not

1670
01:45:11.640 --> 01:45:15.279
to not to string you along into
a seven chapter you know seven game.

1671
01:45:16.039 --> 01:45:21.159
Uh I just mentioned briefly. I've
been trying to play that Akron Right game

1672
01:45:21.199 --> 01:45:25.720
for about two weeks now. I
watched you try to play some of it.

1673
01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:29.399
I had to leave the room.
I still I feel like an idiot,

1674
01:45:29.439 --> 01:45:31.239
but like, I still haven't quite
gotten Drew Strom trying to help me

1675
01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:34.399
too. He sits in the room
about an hour day. She just kinda

1676
01:45:34.399 --> 01:45:38.119
well know that not not that much. But we've been trying to do a

1677
01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:41.439
quick look of it, and I'm
like, I just don't I still don't

1678
01:45:41.520 --> 01:45:45.680
quite understand what you want from me. Some kind of time travel RTS right,

1679
01:45:45.960 --> 01:45:48.560
Yes, so you can make your
units jump back to save them.

1680
01:45:48.760 --> 01:45:53.159
Is that? So you jump back
in time? And then you're like,

1681
01:45:53.319 --> 01:45:57.920
okay, here's what but but the
present still? So you have a timeline,

1682
01:45:58.640 --> 01:46:00.399
you know, Okay, you're with
me, this line of time of

1683
01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:04.520
time with the marker that says here's
the present right at that time, that

1684
01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:10.079
present is always creeping forward, right
the president the president time marches on.

1685
01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:14.560
So you jump back in time,
but the present. What you did in

1686
01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:17.840
the present is still going forward.
So the actions you're taking in the past

1687
01:46:18.319 --> 01:46:21.680
are you going to affect when you
jump back to the future present where your

1688
01:46:21.800 --> 01:46:26.039
units are in the present, and
the and the enemies you've killed in the

1689
01:46:26.119 --> 01:46:30.760
past will be reflected back into the
present, but also the future of where

1690
01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:35.600
you are, So you're you're affecting
the everything forward, and time catches up

1691
01:46:35.680 --> 01:46:39.720
in waves that go by kind of
like lumines shut, Like it's just like

1692
01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:44.479
shut waves come by. But then
and then you also the enemy or the

1693
01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:45.560
guys that are with you can also
travel in time. So and then you

1694
01:46:45.640 --> 01:46:49.079
get two timelines that show you like, all right, Brad is in this

1695
01:46:49.279 --> 01:46:54.960
place currently, he's doing this.
Uh, And then you get objectives.

1696
01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:59.399
Out of one understands anything. They're
like, your objective is not to have

1697
01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:02.680
this guy. You're the coke guy
at the party now and he's trying to

1698
01:47:02.760 --> 01:47:10.319
explain astrophysics. Doesnt need to jump
back to two thirty because two thirty,

1699
01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:13.560
but you're you're at four thirty in
the mission, so you need to jump

1700
01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:15.800
back here. And then on your
timeline there are just red blobs that show

1701
01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:18.800
you big encounters that are happening,
so you want to make sure you avoid

1702
01:47:19.239 --> 01:47:24.000
it's just crazy. And then you
have chrono energy. But you can travel

1703
01:47:24.039 --> 01:47:28.199
in time, but you can also
teleport rout on the map. What shut

1704
01:47:28.279 --> 01:47:32.399
up? Yeah? So like it's
Jeff, So when you know when you

1705
01:47:32.520 --> 01:47:35.800
jump back in time, do your
units disappear from the present? No,

1706
01:47:36.479 --> 01:47:41.039
well you don't see them unless you
jump back to the present. But are

1707
01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:44.039
they there while time march at the
time is marching on the present? Are

1708
01:47:44.079 --> 01:47:45.520
they still there? Or are you
taking them out and taking them into the

1709
01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:48.319
past? Because I imagine like you
know they're still there, and the well,

1710
01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:50.640
what are they doing there? If
if you've if you've taken them back

1711
01:47:50.680 --> 01:47:56.039
into the past. Oh you know, I'm breaking news. What's up?

1712
01:47:56.159 --> 01:47:59.720
Patrick Klevit just sent me a text
message that just says beat a client downloading

1713
01:48:00.359 --> 01:48:03.840
what beta? Would that be me
too? But they're yeah, but there's

1714
01:48:03.880 --> 01:48:06.560
like three betas already that on the
table that I can think about. It's

1715
01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:11.319
not battlefield because that's not you're looking
at the present of where you currently are

1716
01:48:11.399 --> 01:48:14.600
in the past. I tried,
you know what I'm saying. So,

1717
01:48:14.720 --> 01:48:16.239
like you jump back to the past, you're killing these guys, and now

1718
01:48:16.439 --> 01:48:19.800
you've reset the timeline when the time
wave catches up, because whatever you do

1719
01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:24.239
in the past is rippled in a
wave that actually has to travel through the

1720
01:48:24.279 --> 01:48:28.319
timeline to affect to reset what happened
in the future. So you move back

1721
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:31.159
there, and if you jump forward
back to the present, your guys will

1722
01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:34.279
still be where they left you until
the time wave catches up, and then

1723
01:48:34.279 --> 01:48:39.039
they'll be over here because that's where
you left them in the past. Well,

1724
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:41.279
now that you've spent all that time
saying that, I just want to

1725
01:48:41.319 --> 01:48:44.439
say, Kirby mass Attack is really
good. Oh that seems cool. Yeah,

1726
01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:46.479
how's the time mechanic? And that's
all. I can't talk about it

1727
01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:49.479
now? Why because you've blown all
of our time. We're deep into this

1728
01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:53.680
podcast. I just feel I feel
bad because we've been I've been trying to

1729
01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:57.279
show the world this game because I
think it might be interesting, but I

1730
01:48:57.399 --> 01:48:59.560
just can't wrap my head around it. And I'm not sure if we'll ever

1731
01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:02.119
do it a clok of it because
it would just be me trying to explain

1732
01:49:02.199 --> 01:49:05.439
that. So it would just be
like this this past five minutes on the

1733
01:49:05.479 --> 01:49:10.319
podcast. I'd like to rewind in
the last five minutes of that and ask

1734
01:49:10.399 --> 01:49:12.920
some more questions earlier on. You
know what I'm saying, like affect of

1735
01:49:12.960 --> 01:49:15.079
time. I'm right, I don't
understand how you do that. I've just

1736
01:49:15.159 --> 01:49:16.399
cut this whole section of the podcast. I don't know how you do that,

1737
01:49:16.800 --> 01:49:20.560
Akron, certain sections cut for time? Sorry? How come I'm in

1738
01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:26.800
blocks that matter? What? Looking
at the thumbnail for blocks that matter?

1739
01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:30.399
And that dude looks like a cartoon
version of me. That is either the

1740
01:49:30.479 --> 01:49:35.319
dude who made Tetris or the dude
who made Minecraft. Is this a game

1741
01:49:35.479 --> 01:49:40.479
from the people that made Tetris and
Minecraft? No, apparently that game is

1742
01:49:40.479 --> 01:49:45.199
also available on Xbox Indie Games,
So it's part Minecraft, part Tetris.

1743
01:49:45.359 --> 01:49:50.760
Yeah, did you watch that quick? Look? It's a cool platforming drilling

1744
01:49:50.880 --> 01:50:00.600
robot, A mister driller, mister
robot, a Tizo Yeah, TiSER Hory

1745
01:50:01.079 --> 01:50:06.079
is driving a ridge racer machine.
And then Rico Nagassi's brother is flying overhead

1746
01:50:06.119 --> 01:50:10.920
dropping bombs and everyone. No,
he's driving that the above that he is

1747
01:50:10.960 --> 01:50:15.359
in space, he's driving that that
machine shooting to a Galagha. Are you

1748
01:50:15.479 --> 01:50:19.800
a galag No? Galaghs are the
I'm a Galagha's talking about news, smash

1749
01:50:19.880 --> 01:50:26.199
watermelons all day. Good lord,
good riddance, Breaking News Beta. Something

1750
01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:29.279
is in, guys, something is
going into Beta. I'm gonna guess it

1751
01:50:29.359 --> 01:50:32.479
was Diablo. I've conferred, could
have been Battlefield, could have been Dota

1752
01:50:32.520 --> 01:50:40.840
too. I was hoping. I've
been hearing enough of the Diablo stuff.

1753
01:50:41.159 --> 01:50:44.359
Yeah, flying around more fast and
furious lately, so I figured kind of

1754
01:50:44.399 --> 01:50:47.920
wide already. Oh I think that
my battle that account has the stupid security

1755
01:50:47.960 --> 01:50:50.800
code on it, and I don't
have the authenticator and secure. Now I

1756
01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:59.359
gotta call him. Oh yeah,
let's talk about some news news all stretch

1757
01:50:59.399 --> 01:51:01.199
kind of stuff on you, guys. Breaking News got the lights to work

1758
01:51:01.199 --> 01:51:04.960
on my jazz machine. Really got
one. The other bulbs have burned out,

1759
01:51:05.720 --> 01:51:09.039
but yeah, I got that.
I got one of the front panel

1760
01:51:09.119 --> 01:51:11.279
lights to light up. What about
your controls? Are they still fucked up?

1761
01:51:11.880 --> 01:51:15.439
Yes? Okay, what do they
not do? Control? Player two

1762
01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:18.880
runs to the right. Player one
doesn't flat it, but I've isolate The

1763
01:51:18.960 --> 01:51:23.159
last time we went in there,
Player one worked fine and been trying to

1764
01:51:23.239 --> 01:51:27.279
get playered or at least diagnosed Player
two. We ended up sucking up mechanically

1765
01:51:27.359 --> 01:51:30.319
the control's work. I actually tested
it all. So up until that interface

1766
01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:34.720
board, everything actually just that interface
board, unless it's something after the interface

1767
01:51:34.760 --> 01:51:39.560
board, but I don't think it
is. So yeah, he's crazy daughter

1768
01:51:39.640 --> 01:51:43.439
board on there. Yeah, I
think the interface board it's I don't know,

1769
01:51:43.560 --> 01:51:45.039
it's hard to look that stuff up
online, but ten or fifteen bucks,

1770
01:51:45.119 --> 01:51:49.079
but it's like market price. Where
can you find one of those?

1771
01:51:49.159 --> 01:51:53.199
Now nowhere? I spent about two
hours trying to find my wife. Got

1772
01:51:53.199 --> 01:51:58.359
real mad. Uh. Crytech has
announced. Cry Tech and t h Q

1773
01:51:58.600 --> 01:52:02.239
have announced that Crytech is going to
make the next home Front game. In

1774
01:52:02.359 --> 01:52:05.279
other breaking news, that there's going
to be a next home Front game.

1775
01:52:05.319 --> 01:52:09.640
I thought they said never. Oh. I thought they said we're gonna close

1776
01:52:09.680 --> 01:52:12.399
down the developer that made the developer
and they were gonna move to Montreal.

1777
01:52:12.560 --> 01:52:14.239
Did that? But they did.
They said there would be another one.

1778
01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:16.920
Oh what was the what was the
number one? That was red red Fashion.

1779
01:52:17.800 --> 01:52:21.760
They're putting Red Fashion back on the
shelf. Okay, yeah, great,

1780
01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:31.239
but home Front continues unabated red faction
smart Yeah, uh, this is

1781
01:52:31.319 --> 01:52:35.960
christech UK. This is the free
radical, pree Radical making it right.

1782
01:52:36.079 --> 01:52:39.680
Yeah, but with so they'll be
monkeys with guns in it, I guess,

1783
01:52:40.319 --> 01:52:43.920
well, and then the other talks
is that there's been a time splitters

1784
01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:53.000
four four four, yeah, four, What was the future? I thought

1785
01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:56.800
there's one, there was two and
then three. They didn't call three.

1786
01:52:56.800 --> 01:53:00.319
They called it like future perfect perfect. So yeah, so there was were

1787
01:53:00.439 --> 01:53:03.119
that they had been working on that
for a while and that got shelved.

1788
01:53:03.239 --> 01:53:06.920
So I don't know if what this
has to do with the fate of that,

1789
01:53:08.119 --> 01:53:13.479
but that's sloshing around in the mix
out there at thoughts on this this

1790
01:53:13.640 --> 01:53:16.680
collabo. Do you think free Radic
will making home Front on the cry Engine.

1791
01:53:16.840 --> 01:53:19.800
I don't know. It looked good
and maybe, yeah, maybe that'll

1792
01:53:19.800 --> 01:53:23.680
be great. Hard to say,
no one ever, home Front was not

1793
01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:28.800
a good game. Yeah it had
potential, but yeah the conceptually, yeah,

1794
01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:30.039
have potential like doing Red Dawn,
like what, I don't know what

1795
01:53:30.119 --> 01:53:33.479
they're going for. Are they going
to be like it sounded like red or

1796
01:53:33.560 --> 01:53:39.159
Net Red Faction. Home Front was
trying to be a big multiplayer thing because

1797
01:53:39.159 --> 01:53:41.960
the campaign was really short, right, The campaign was kind of just they've

1798
01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:45.159
basically kind of like made it like
they thought that it would you know,

1799
01:53:45.239 --> 01:53:46.840
people like Call of Duty. Let's
do something like that, right, like

1800
01:53:46.960 --> 01:53:54.119
this short really like kind of almost
offensive campaign, both due to technical issues

1801
01:53:54.239 --> 01:53:59.119
and just like the wanton mowing down
of civilians just like for effect, Like,

1802
01:53:59.279 --> 01:54:01.680
man, this is how intense it
is. The North Koreans totally shot

1803
01:54:01.720 --> 01:54:09.039
that fucking kid, but those mass
grave isn't that extreme. But but then,

1804
01:54:09.159 --> 01:54:12.960
but then Scott, there was no
Russian whatever. But then keep the

1805
01:54:13.680 --> 01:54:15.800
multiplayer as the thing that hooks you, right and yeah, but you know,

1806
01:54:15.880 --> 01:54:18.920
I don't know. I thought the
multiplayer was pretty bad, So I

1807
01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:21.279
don't know, like what what I
mean. I feel like they can make

1808
01:54:21.319 --> 01:54:24.720
a really good single player game.
I don't know if those are the guys.

1809
01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:29.079
I think she's Q just invested so
much into marketing and awareness of home

1810
01:54:29.119 --> 01:54:30.840
Front. Even if that game was
ship, everyone knows about it. Think

1811
01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:34.359
of all the Korean taco trucks we
had to rent. I think they actually

1812
01:54:34.359 --> 01:54:36.399
did a pretty good job with that. I think home Front of the name

1813
01:54:36.520 --> 01:54:40.319
got out there, a lot was
everywhere. Yeah, I think they actually

1814
01:54:40.359 --> 01:54:42.600
did succeed in their marketing. I
think that, Yeah, that is that

1815
01:54:42.680 --> 01:54:47.000
is exactly my point. The investment
and that part paid off. They didn't

1816
01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:51.159
make the investment on you know,
developer and making it a game that was

1817
01:54:51.239 --> 01:54:55.079
worthy of that. They did a
good job of disappointing people. Yeah,

1818
01:54:55.159 --> 01:54:57.960
they made sure that everyone knew about
this thing, so then they would be

1819
01:54:58.039 --> 01:55:03.800
disappointed by it. Yeah. That
was on you know, busy busses and

1820
01:55:04.199 --> 01:55:08.279
that deal boards and bandage on his
eyes. Yeah, he can't see very

1821
01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:14.199
well, can she. That's it
home Front two. He did the blindfolds

1822
01:55:14.199 --> 01:55:21.159
off Telekinesis sword stuff. Uh.
Sony has UH rolled out a new terms

1823
01:55:21.159 --> 01:55:26.880
of service for the PlayStation three for
PlayStation Network specifically, UH, and there's

1824
01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:31.560
language in there that basically says,
you can't create a class action, can't

1825
01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:36.600
be part of a class action lawsuit
to sue us. UH, basically kind

1826
01:55:36.640 --> 01:55:41.479
of in response to remember what ps
ana was really fucked up earlier this year,

1827
01:55:42.319 --> 01:55:44.600
Well, if you are sure if
that ever happens again, we're we'll

1828
01:55:44.600 --> 01:55:46.479
be okay. I think even if
that happened, I think if you if

1829
01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:48.760
you did for this thing, that's
like, well, you can't be part

1830
01:55:48.760 --> 01:55:54.199
of any class action lawsuits that might
be happening here. And that's just straight

1831
01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:55.880
up Hey, if you want to
keep using this, you have to agree

1832
01:55:55.920 --> 01:55:58.960
with the terms of service. So
so can you return a product if you

1833
01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:00.640
don't agree with that, you're like, I don't like the changes you made.

1834
01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:02.800
I'd like to bring back my PS
three and get my money back.

1835
01:56:03.439 --> 01:56:05.079
Well, in this case, it's
not for the p S three. It's

1836
01:56:05.079 --> 01:56:10.680
just yeah. Well, so Patrick
has a story up that's that's worth reading,

1837
01:56:10.720 --> 01:56:13.319
just to kind of drill down on
the specifics of this and how you

1838
01:56:13.359 --> 01:56:15.920
can heat that. And then he
also has he has created a form that

1839
01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:18.119
allows you to that you can easily
fill out and then mail back to Sony

1840
01:56:18.239 --> 01:56:23.920
too, because you can't not it's
you can't keep using that ship. So

1841
01:56:24.079 --> 01:56:26.600
they currently do you do agree to
this currently? Is that up now?

1842
01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:30.000
Or is it something like three seven
or something of a firmware. It's just

1843
01:56:30.399 --> 01:56:32.760
when you turn a PS three on
up, it does not sign in the

1844
01:56:32.800 --> 01:56:35.520
PSN and you have to manually go
to sign in and then it pops up

1845
01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:39.840
the new terms. So might be
my PlayStation has been offline, you'll have

1846
01:56:40.079 --> 01:56:42.720
good. So I got an email
that was like, hey, you know,

1847
01:56:42.840 --> 01:56:44.319
I just I was like, hey, this is a change, you

1848
01:56:44.359 --> 01:56:45.640
can agree to this. I don't. I don't think they know that I'm

1849
01:56:45.680 --> 01:56:48.680
offline obviously, but like it came
through on my email that was like a

1850
01:56:48.840 --> 01:56:51.920
new terms of service whatever. And
I remember seeing that story. I was

1851
01:56:51.920 --> 01:56:55.039
like, I'm not gonna sign up
that. I'm gonna find out just so

1852
01:56:55.119 --> 01:56:57.880
I can be contrary to find out
what the options are. You never know

1853
01:56:57.960 --> 01:57:00.560
what I'm going to be part of
a class action lawsuit. I mean just

1854
01:57:00.640 --> 01:57:02.520
because it's fun. Yeah, I
want my five cents, I want my

1855
01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:08.079
coupon for a shake. Just but
so you have thirty days within agreeing to

1856
01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:11.479
these terms of service to you know, send something to Sony saying actually I

1857
01:57:11.520 --> 01:57:14.880
don't agree with these terms, and
then what happens, and then you can't

1858
01:57:14.960 --> 01:57:17.720
sue Sony for PSN being No,
if you said I don't agree, that's

1859
01:57:17.720 --> 01:57:20.399
not that's not I think you're opting
out of that clause, right, I

1860
01:57:20.479 --> 01:57:23.600
talked to I talked to Patrick about
It's more. I mean, just because

1861
01:57:23.600 --> 01:57:26.600
they put it in an end user
agreement doesn't make it legally bind. Really,

1862
01:57:26.680 --> 01:57:30.199
yeah, so I think put I
mean, you know you're under like

1863
01:57:30.359 --> 01:57:32.920
actual legal tests, like your landlord
can put whatever the hell he wants in

1864
01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:35.640
your least, but that doesn't mean
it complies with like you know, even

1865
01:57:35.680 --> 01:57:39.439
if you agree to the law or
whatever. Yeah, even if that checkbox

1866
01:57:39.479 --> 01:57:41.720
says I agree. Yeah, like
that, you know. But I mean

1867
01:57:41.760 --> 01:57:44.479
if if you take it to court
because you agree to have regular sex with

1868
01:57:44.560 --> 01:57:47.439
your landlord blue of rent, like
you could still eventually sue him for that,

1869
01:57:47.800 --> 01:57:51.359
really, and if you assigned and
agreed to it because I got a

1870
01:57:51.359 --> 01:57:55.439
phone call. He characterized it more
as a scare tactic. It's just like,

1871
01:57:55.520 --> 01:57:57.640
oh, you know, people see
that they have agreed to this thing,

1872
01:57:57.680 --> 01:57:59.479
and they're like, oh, well, then I guess it's a speed

1873
01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:00.760
mom too right to be like,
hey, you guys agreed to this,

1874
01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:03.199
and then they have to go get
a lawyer to find out if they well,

1875
01:58:03.399 --> 01:58:08.720
yeah, yeah, that's legal.
Yeah I didn't know that. I

1876
01:58:08.800 --> 01:58:13.000
thought I thought those I thought legal
or not? A contract is that takes

1877
01:58:13.039 --> 01:58:15.840
precedent like legal binding. No,
no, those things are not above the

1878
01:58:15.960 --> 01:58:18.279
law. Like you know, you
can't like sell your children into slavery with

1879
01:58:18.359 --> 01:58:21.800
a contract. That doesn't make it
okay. You can't legally kill a man

1880
01:58:23.359 --> 01:58:26.359
just because you have a contract,
just because he signed a thing saying please

1881
01:58:26.439 --> 01:58:30.039
kill me. Really yep, it
wouldn't be legal. You might get like

1882
01:58:30.439 --> 01:58:36.000
some sort of like reduced in court
or something. It was just like well,

1883
01:58:36.119 --> 01:58:38.960
we sign this thing and you want
to do it, but then he

1884
01:58:38.960 --> 01:58:41.319
I got the papers for you to
side. It's god damn government, man,

1885
01:58:41.840 --> 01:58:45.239
it's big government, US us out
of my uterus. Thanks Obama,

1886
01:58:46.640 --> 01:58:50.439
he knew he did this. Yeah, yeah, Obamacare, you got problems

1887
01:58:50.479 --> 01:58:55.000
with PSN. He's the death panels
with a step one of the death Panel

1888
01:58:55.199 --> 01:59:00.479
is accepting these new terms. P
PS three version of Assassin's Creed Revelations coming

1889
01:59:00.520 --> 01:59:05.159
bundled with a copy of Assassin's Creed
one. That's pretty awesome. That is

1890
01:59:05.239 --> 01:59:09.800
that is the single best use of
surplus storage on a Blu Ray that I've

1891
01:59:09.840 --> 01:59:12.760
seen. We had enough room to
put this other game on here, so

1892
01:59:12.880 --> 01:59:15.840
here you go. Yeah, I
wish it would have been the subsequent ones,

1893
01:59:15.920 --> 01:59:20.119
but yeah, I guess they probably
have the knowledge of like, yeah,

1894
01:59:20.399 --> 01:59:24.600
you know, the most people didn't
play this first game, and I

1895
01:59:24.680 --> 01:59:29.039
just wonder it's also the oldest one
that has the least value them to the

1896
01:59:29.079 --> 01:59:32.560
point everything they're shown in Revelations in
case some pretty clear ties to the stuff.

1897
01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:35.119
Sure, sure, and then you
know there's there's been little sprinklings of

1898
01:59:35.199 --> 01:59:40.920
that in In two and in Brotherhood. I just don't know that you can

1899
01:59:40.960 --> 01:59:44.760
make that jump. I don't know
that if if you if you skip everything

1900
01:59:44.800 --> 01:59:48.319
in between, I think if,
I mean, you know, two and

1901
01:59:48.399 --> 01:59:51.039
Brotherhood, And I haven't played any
of the single player revelations, so I

1902
01:59:51.119 --> 01:59:55.920
can't speak to what that handles like, but like there's a kind of a

1903
01:59:56.039 --> 02:00:00.079
clear connection as far as the way
basic handling is in those games. The

1904
02:00:00.159 --> 02:00:02.920
first one feels so much difference,
a little bit stiffer. Yeah, uh

1905
02:00:03.319 --> 02:00:05.439
yeah, I just I don't know
stectually, it's just not as good as

1906
02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:11.359
you're right right the game afterwards,
you know, when's that coming out?

1907
02:00:11.720 --> 02:00:15.079
But it's a bonus if they were
to remake the first Assassin's Creed and update

1908
02:00:15.119 --> 02:00:18.359
all the control stuff. It's not
the control so much as the question.

1909
02:00:18.520 --> 02:00:20.920
Yeah, yeah, I guess it's
the fact that it's nothing but there are

1910
02:00:21.000 --> 02:00:26.600
nine targets to kill and just grind. There's every for every target, there

1911
02:00:26.680 --> 02:00:29.560
is a prerequisitive like three or four
missions, and they're all the same mission.

1912
02:00:29.640 --> 02:00:30.520
It was a good proof of concept, but yes, it was.

1913
02:00:30.880 --> 02:00:33.399
They got the sense that they were
figuring out the tech yea, and it

1914
02:00:33.439 --> 02:00:36.199
couldn't really focus on like they got
the framework in place, but like what

1915
02:00:36.279 --> 02:00:41.039
they've filled around. It was good
to stretched it out for a couple of

1916
02:00:41.079 --> 02:00:44.159
hours. Oh man, Yeah,
it's still good AboutUs. You're right,

1917
02:00:44.239 --> 02:00:46.960
yeah, cool us. I haven't
I haven't played Brotherhood yet. That's not

1918
02:00:47.039 --> 02:00:49.840
gonna happen by November, is it. No, that's right. You played

1919
02:00:49.920 --> 02:00:53.640
two. Yeah, I would just
played two like four or five months ago.

1920
02:00:53.880 --> 02:00:57.680
On you're on your path. I'm
just gonna resign myself to be a

1921
02:00:57.760 --> 02:01:00.840
year behind on assassins Creed Games.
Is this as anybody said, this is

1922
02:01:00.880 --> 02:01:05.239
the end of the Eteo story.
Yes, yes, they've said. He

1923
02:01:05.359 --> 02:01:12.720
sinks the just until plateau Man destroys
the mansion rescues Chris. It was another

1924
02:01:12.840 --> 02:01:16.760
underground mansion Adam Etio's dad. Yeah, okay, yeah, he plants the

1925
02:01:16.840 --> 02:01:23.399
light bomb film at eleven and he's
the only one that survives. For the

1926
02:01:23.439 --> 02:01:31.760
suicide mission. DC Universe Online is
going what to pay down? Which there's

1927
02:01:31.800 --> 02:01:35.560
a quick one. Yeah, that
is a quick one. That's maybe one

1928
02:01:35.600 --> 02:01:42.239
of the fastest turnarounds from traditional MO
model to uh. I think games.

1929
02:01:43.000 --> 02:01:45.880
I think MMOs should not launch with
not being free to play anymore at this

1930
02:01:46.000 --> 02:01:48.600
point. At this point, I
bought I bought that game for sixty bucks

1931
02:01:48.920 --> 02:01:53.359
or whatever it was, and then
uh, you don't have my free,

1932
02:01:53.560 --> 02:01:56.239
well, you'll be able to play
it again. So and they have three

1933
02:01:56.279 --> 02:02:02.239
tiers a service. So there's the
absolutely positive of Lee free tier, which

1934
02:02:02.520 --> 02:02:05.520
is just you have never paid.
I think you'll be able to download the

1935
02:02:05.560 --> 02:02:09.159
client for free. Maybe not a
PS three out, I'm not I don't

1936
02:02:09.199 --> 02:02:12.520
really know about that, but yeah, yeah, okay, So there's this

1937
02:02:12.600 --> 02:02:16.159
free tier, super free, super
free, limited inventory slots, limited character

1938
02:02:16.159 --> 02:02:18.760
slots, all that other stuff.
If you buy any one thing or five

1939
02:02:18.800 --> 02:02:20.880
dollars worth of stuff I think has
been maybe what it is, you get

1940
02:02:21.079 --> 02:02:24.960
upgraded to the next tier service or
if you have paid or if you've paid

1941
02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:29.560
the past. Yeah, if you
bought the game and had a subscription at

1942
02:02:29.560 --> 02:02:32.359
any point, you'll get free.
You'll get this middle tier okay, the

1943
02:02:32.479 --> 02:02:36.359
trial subscription of them. Yeah,
this premium is the middle tier. So

1944
02:02:36.479 --> 02:02:40.600
if you've spent you know, some
amount of money at any point on this

1945
02:02:40.680 --> 02:02:44.680
game, that gets you more inventory
slots, more character stuff, and I

1946
02:02:44.880 --> 02:02:46.800
think a little bit more content.
Uh, you get auction slots, you

1947
02:02:46.880 --> 02:02:53.039
get banks, more banks slots.
Uh, you can do item trading,

1948
02:02:53.079 --> 02:02:56.560
which year is no item trading on
the free slot, on the free levels.

1949
02:02:57.840 --> 02:03:02.000
Uh, I don't know. You
hit the level cap so quickly in

1950
02:03:02.039 --> 02:03:04.880
that game that they were cap below
the actual cap. It would be really

1951
02:03:04.960 --> 02:03:11.079
dumb. And then there's the tier
where you continue paying them fourteen ninety nine

1952
02:03:11.079 --> 02:03:15.039
a month and you get all this
stuff you're subscribing, you get everything.

1953
02:03:15.279 --> 02:03:16.399
People in the middle tier, and
I think even probably the bottom tier,

1954
02:03:16.439 --> 02:03:19.520
which would get them to the middle
tier if they bought anything can buy episodes,

1955
02:03:19.800 --> 02:03:25.560
so they'll they'll sell content packs newer
Yeah, okay, that aren't available

1956
02:03:25.640 --> 02:03:28.880
now, right, Okay, got
it. We don't have this in our

1957
02:03:28.920 --> 02:03:32.680
story. But I was reading something
else about about this this change, and

1958
02:03:33.279 --> 02:03:39.359
John Smedley, the guy who runs
Sooe, there's this insane quote from him

1959
02:03:40.079 --> 02:03:44.199
to the effect of like, yeah, we felt this was the you know,

1960
02:03:44.960 --> 02:03:46.359
the best model in the first place. I'm like, well, then

1961
02:03:46.399 --> 02:03:49.279
why the fuck did you not launch
with this model in the first place?

1962
02:03:49.640 --> 02:03:54.880
Because said, no, we're like
the World of Warcraft. Our stuff is

1963
02:03:54.960 --> 02:03:59.560
popular, you will charge I bet, I bet that has to be it.

1964
02:03:59.760 --> 02:04:01.079
Yeah, do you think that he's
like, no the future if he's

1965
02:04:01.119 --> 02:04:03.640
if he's coming out and saying we
should have done this in the first place.

1966
02:04:03.760 --> 02:04:05.840
Yea, then they wanted to do
it in the first place, and

1967
02:04:06.279 --> 02:04:10.800
someone somewhere along the way wouldn't let
him. He's also actually pretty uh,

1968
02:04:11.560 --> 02:04:13.279
I wish you can remember where I
where I saw this stuff. But he

1969
02:04:13.319 --> 02:04:15.279
was also pretty candid about like,
yeah, this game took a lot longer

1970
02:04:15.439 --> 02:04:20.119
to make than we anticipated that it
would, and that had some impacts as

1971
02:04:20.199 --> 02:04:23.479
far as you know, how some
of these decisions were made. So Smedley's

1972
02:04:23.479 --> 02:04:26.680
always seemed like kind of a straight
shooter. Yeah, he from interviews and

1973
02:04:26.720 --> 02:04:30.960
stuff, he comes off pretty straight
up and h in his talk about this

1974
02:04:30.000 --> 02:04:35.039
stuff. So whatever, h it's
twenty eleven, and but it's it's kind

1975
02:04:35.079 --> 02:04:39.039
of the crazy thing, you know, like so much money gets spent developing

1976
02:04:39.039 --> 02:04:41.920
an MMO that I think that you
know, the money men behind them,

1977
02:04:41.960 --> 02:04:45.000
and you know, the people even
working on them feel like, no way,

1978
02:04:45.079 --> 02:04:48.279
man, this game is every bit
as good as World War Cries.

1979
02:04:48.319 --> 02:04:50.520
It's up there with all this other
stuff from you know, all the other

1980
02:04:50.680 --> 02:04:55.600
third generation MMOs whatever you want to
call him, and they all come at

1981
02:04:55.640 --> 02:04:58.720
it from this approach of just like, of course it's worth a subscription fee,

1982
02:04:59.159 --> 02:05:01.399
Like obviously, I mean this is
great stuff, and then see their

1983
02:05:01.479 --> 02:05:03.600
numbers tank, you know, six
months in or whatever, and go,

1984
02:05:03.720 --> 02:05:08.880
oh fuck, like it's because we
got to change like everybody else, Like

1985
02:05:08.960 --> 02:05:12.520
they just they probably just need to
start launching this way, and some of

1986
02:05:12.600 --> 02:05:15.479
them certainly are. But so,
you know, it's something I've I've hoped

1987
02:05:15.479 --> 02:05:18.039
that would happen for a while.
You buy a box copy, spend sixty

1988
02:05:18.079 --> 02:05:20.439
bucks, and you get some kind
of forever free come. I mean,

1989
02:05:20.479 --> 02:05:24.239
this would make me go back into
DC and check it out, you know,

1990
02:05:24.279 --> 02:05:26.920
why not? I always feel like
it's like you need to go one

1991
02:05:26.960 --> 02:05:30.760
way or the other. Like the
idea of paying for a box copy of

1992
02:05:30.800 --> 02:05:34.520
an MMO always seems crazy to me, right Like, And if if I'm

1993
02:05:34.560 --> 02:05:39.079
gonna play, if if I'm gonna
play your subscription based game, just let

1994
02:05:39.159 --> 02:05:42.159
me download the client for free,
because I can't do anything with this until

1995
02:05:42.159 --> 02:05:44.880
I start paying you the fifteen a
month. Now, you know, understand,

1996
02:05:44.920 --> 02:05:47.239
it's kind of you know, legacy
from a time gone past. You

1997
02:05:47.279 --> 02:05:49.960
know, the retail model is what
it is, and they don't want to

1998
02:05:49.960 --> 02:05:54.800
be cut out of the loop.
And but but for you know, it

1999
02:05:55.000 --> 02:05:57.119
just it seems like it makes a
lot more sense to go that way,

2000
02:05:57.159 --> 02:06:00.800
although now subscriptions are fucking dead for
MMOs. Anyway, I bet that when

2001
02:06:00.880 --> 02:06:04.840
Blizzard launches its next generation MMO,
it will be for you to absolutely.

2002
02:06:05.439 --> 02:06:11.960
I still think people don't really like
MMOs. They like World of Warcraft,

2003
02:06:12.720 --> 02:06:16.039
yeah, and I think I don't. I'm watching watching over the last six

2004
02:06:16.239 --> 02:06:20.439
years. Just seems like there's an
audience. They're definitely people who like emos,

2005
02:06:20.479 --> 02:06:23.479
oh for sure. I mean you
definitely, like you see the games

2006
02:06:23.560 --> 02:06:26.079
kind of rise and fall as people
jump from one game to the next,

2007
02:06:26.159 --> 02:06:29.199
or or do whatever if a game
is broken or whatever. I guess I

2008
02:06:29.239 --> 02:06:30.199
mean there are people out there who
have played them all. That's like,

2009
02:06:30.279 --> 02:06:33.000
yeah, I was in Riff for
like three months and then I maxed out

2010
02:06:33.039 --> 02:06:35.359
got board. I guess I shouldn't
say we all moved over to this.

2011
02:06:35.680 --> 02:06:39.359
I don't mean people. I mean
that target that it seems like something you're

2012
02:06:39.359 --> 02:06:43.560
talking about, like that that Brass
Ring, which is like that insane mass

2013
02:06:43.680 --> 02:06:47.720
market, that billion dollars a day
international, Like, yeah, the crazy

2014
02:06:47.760 --> 02:06:51.119
business that Blizzard has has built up, and so when people like we're gonna

2015
02:06:51.119 --> 02:06:55.800
make an MMO to take that down
always seems like kind of crazy to me,

2016
02:06:55.920 --> 02:07:00.199
like what a gamble. I really
don't think that people are just BIGMO

2017
02:07:00.319 --> 02:07:02.760
fans. I think they just really
like that world and some people use it

2018
02:07:02.800 --> 02:07:05.960
as a check you know, even
some of those people, I mean,

2019
02:07:05.960 --> 02:07:09.439
the world of warkoff numbers aren't like
what they used to be. Right.

2020
02:07:09.600 --> 02:07:13.600
Oh, they've definitely ebbed. They're
definitely they peaked I think a few years

2021
02:07:13.640 --> 02:07:16.479
ago, right. I think every
time we have to have someone at Blizzards

2022
02:07:16.479 --> 02:07:19.159
that would return our calls to be
able to see anything about that. So

2023
02:07:25.000 --> 02:07:28.119
oh s here, let's let's move
on because there's a bunch of other stuff

2024
02:07:28.159 --> 02:07:31.239
and we are running along here,
jets. Uh So some some Windows eight

2025
02:07:31.319 --> 02:07:35.760
shit happened last week. I know
Will Smith saw some of that. He's

2026
02:07:35.760 --> 02:07:39.600
got it running on a machine.
Ya, the beta version of it here,

2027
02:07:41.239 --> 02:07:43.399
like a look at it. We
did a live they did a live

2028
02:07:43.439 --> 02:07:45.840
thing and that's that's available on test
and check that out on test at dot

2029
02:07:45.880 --> 02:07:49.720
com. Uh. Informative that,
Will Smith, because you were wondering.

2030
02:07:50.399 --> 02:07:54.920
Part of this was the announcement that
Games for Windows Live or Games for Windows

2031
02:07:55.359 --> 02:07:58.640
is no longer a thing. They're
going to talk about just Xbox now.

2032
02:07:59.479 --> 02:08:01.760
Hm. Well, if they come
out and say that, or they just

2033
02:08:01.840 --> 02:08:05.119
say we are putting Xbox Live into
Windows eights and then let you fill in

2034
02:08:05.159 --> 02:08:07.199
the blanks yourself. I guess,
I guess. I guess that's more a

2035
02:08:07.439 --> 02:08:11.119
yeah. Yeah, it's not that
Games Windows Live is dead. I mean,

2036
02:08:11.159 --> 02:08:13.800
nobody's ever going to come out and
say we are killing off this initiative,

2037
02:08:13.920 --> 02:08:16.079
right, and it's you know,
it's just it's really what changes,

2038
02:08:16.239 --> 02:08:20.079
Like it's a very clear implication.
This would just be deeper system level integration

2039
02:08:20.279 --> 02:08:24.600
of the Xbox Live or the Live
log in protocols. Always it relates to

2040
02:08:24.680 --> 02:08:28.880
games and friends lists and stuff.
What changes is hopefully they get developments to

2041
02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:31.279
care about it more, yeah,
and start using it. If they actually

2042
02:08:31.279 --> 02:08:33.880
integrated at a system level, it
could be cool. And if that's could

2043
02:08:33.920 --> 02:08:37.199
be a cool sce. It's called
Xbox across the board and they're able to

2044
02:08:37.279 --> 02:08:39.600
unify those features more directly. Yeah, maybe more people use it. I

2045
02:08:39.680 --> 02:08:43.039
mean I liken it to what they've
done on whendows phone, Like that's just

2046
02:08:43.119 --> 02:08:46.319
called Xbox Live. It's you know, it's you get the impression. They

2047
02:08:46.319 --> 02:08:48.119
could probably implement some of those features
better with the way the friends lists and

2048
02:08:48.119 --> 02:08:52.560
messaging works. But it's at least
most of the way there. It's the

2049
02:08:52.560 --> 02:08:54.560
same profiles, same points, Like, you know, Xbox is a brand

2050
02:08:54.680 --> 02:08:58.680
that resonates. Sure the kids love
it. How do you like that?

2051
02:09:00.039 --> 02:09:05.199
Shut up? Kids love Xbox.
Hi, I'm so and so with Xbox.

2052
02:09:05.279 --> 02:09:09.720
I got that box. Uh so
this is I mean, this is

2053
02:09:09.840 --> 02:09:13.720
kind of I guess tangentially game related. But all of the the buzz on

2054
02:09:13.800 --> 02:09:20.640
the internet yesterday was about the split
at at Netflix where they are dividing their

2055
02:09:20.760 --> 02:09:24.920
their DVD shipping business and their video
streaming business into two separate entities. Uh,

2056
02:09:26.079 --> 02:09:30.000
Netflix being the streaming stuff and now
quick Ster dividing conquer. We're like

2057
02:09:30.079 --> 02:09:33.199
divide and not conquer. Is is
what they're gonna do for more like DVDs.

2058
02:09:33.359 --> 02:09:37.119
And as part of that, they
said we're gonna do Games two at

2059
02:09:37.159 --> 02:09:41.680
some point, like as like an
afterthought. It's kind of the Quickster guys

2060
02:09:41.680 --> 02:09:46.279
of the net, quick streaming streaming
game. They're gonna stream games. No

2061
02:09:46.359 --> 02:09:48.039
they're not. They're not trying to
get on live. They're not trying to

2062
02:09:48.039 --> 02:09:52.239
go down on live or out.
It's just it's their mailing discs. There's

2063
02:09:52.319 --> 02:09:56.039
not a quick Really, Quickster is
a bad name. But Netflix is pretty

2064
02:09:56.039 --> 02:10:00.800
bad name too. Quicksters sounds like
a Genesis game. Wait, we're not

2065
02:10:00.800 --> 02:10:03.840
gonna talk about the Twitter account.
Oh yeah, the Quickster Twitter account.

2066
02:10:05.039 --> 02:10:09.920
It's really good. Dude owned the
Quickster. It spelled the right way k

2067
02:10:09.239 --> 02:10:13.720
w q w I k S T
SDR. Some dude already had that on

2068
02:10:13.760 --> 02:10:18.079
Twitter. And it's just some dope
smoking idiot, uh that has it who

2069
02:10:18.239 --> 02:10:24.479
suddenly got a shitload of attention and
didn't know what I do with this way?

2070
02:10:24.520 --> 02:10:28.239
He possibly what is he talking about? Smoking dope? Do Well?

2071
02:10:28.279 --> 02:10:31.920
He was before and that's what he
was talking about before. Yeah, now

2072
02:10:31.960 --> 02:10:35.359
it's like going on somebody wants to
buy it? I don't know. Dude

2073
02:10:35.439 --> 02:10:37.960
is way more specific. It's seen
some of the stuff he posted today.

2074
02:10:39.680 --> 02:10:41.760
He posted an I don't either.
I've just been looking at it from time

2075
02:10:41.760 --> 02:10:46.079
to time. But one of his
posts was effectively, we're not we're not

2076
02:10:46.159 --> 02:10:52.239
talking about any deals until they're in
the six figures. There was another one

2077
02:10:52.319 --> 02:10:56.960
where he first Twitter for the account. There was another one where he taught

2078
02:10:56.000 --> 02:11:00.760
He implied that he expected to be
cut in on this, like he wanted

2079
02:11:00.800 --> 02:11:03.960
part ownership of something and then it
would continue to make him money. In

2080
02:11:03.039 --> 02:11:09.520
purfuiting. I just envisioned this man
eating a lot of cheeseburyping this stuff or

2081
02:11:09.520 --> 02:11:11.640
what yeah, whatever, because because
earlier he made reference to asking his dad

2082
02:11:11.640 --> 02:11:18.600
for money so he could go buy
food. Entitlement culture I'm hazing. Anyway,

2083
02:11:18.680 --> 02:11:20.600
if you want, if you want
free entertainment, you don't. You

2084
02:11:20.640 --> 02:11:26.880
don't need to subscribe to anything.
Let's go to the quickster Twitter account and

2085
02:11:26.000 --> 02:11:31.520
enjoy it for free until they start
charging, or check out the real quickstere

2086
02:11:31.800 --> 02:11:37.880
h a because I expect the cut
of this as well. Uh Tarlos new

2087
02:11:37.920 --> 02:11:46.880
releases real quick. Here's WRE three
is coming out. Okay Ola, there's

2088
02:11:46.920 --> 02:11:48.119
other stuff coming out this week too. You want to hear about that stuff?

2089
02:11:48.199 --> 02:11:52.000
Yes, F one twenty eleven for
the PS three and Xbox three sixty

2090
02:11:52.279 --> 02:11:56.880
that's out this week. Perfect for
all you open wheeled racing enthusiasts. H

2091
02:11:56.079 --> 02:12:03.359
Persona two for the PSP perfect for
all you open wheeled racing supremacy MMA for

2092
02:12:03.479 --> 02:12:09.800
the PS three and Xbox three sixty
dittoh uh Frogger three D for the Nintendo

2093
02:12:09.880 --> 02:12:13.800
three D S three D three D
three da. But that's just probably three

2094
02:12:13.880 --> 02:12:20.000
D three d Uh? What that's
probably like Depth three D. Right,

2095
02:12:20.560 --> 02:12:24.159
yeah, I mean just probably polygonal
as well. Yeah, behind the back

2096
02:12:24.239 --> 02:12:31.079
Frogger they've had that. Oh that's
terrible. Frogger thinks Frog two. Every

2097
02:12:31.159 --> 02:12:35.520
Frogger game that they have made since
the original Frogger two is terrible. Frogger

2098
02:12:35.560 --> 02:12:39.479
two for the PS one was okay, it was better than Frogger one for

2099
02:12:39.520 --> 02:12:43.800
the PS two PS one okay.
Yeah. Frogger cartoons all right, Yeah,

2100
02:12:45.000 --> 02:12:48.159
Dragon Quest, Monsters, Joker two
and Harvest Moon, Tale of Two

2101
02:12:48.279 --> 02:12:54.199
Towns and Kirby Mass Attack all out
for the Nintendo DS this week. The

2102
02:12:54.239 --> 02:12:58.880
original still going strong at Harvest Moon
games coming out like next month on three

2103
02:12:58.960 --> 02:13:01.840
DS. Also, yeah, they're
staggering that out of it by a month.

2104
02:13:01.960 --> 02:13:07.760
Yeah, it is weird. I
agree. Joker two, jer they

2105
02:13:07.880 --> 02:13:11.600
just you know, Japan probably loves
that ship because it's like we made a

2106
02:13:11.680 --> 02:13:18.800
game that's Pokemon but also Monster Hunter
but also dragon Quest and also it's a

2107
02:13:18.880 --> 02:13:22.600
dragon Ball and yeah, and yeah
it's got a little dragon Ball in there

2108
02:13:22.600 --> 02:13:26.159
too, because it's got the Kira
Toriama because he's got that. He did

2109
02:13:26.199 --> 02:13:28.199
the dragon Quest stuff dragon questuff.
I really think he's doing all the designs

2110
02:13:28.239 --> 02:13:33.239
himself about hends every day. Drawn
a slime that means another one, you

2111
02:13:33.279 --> 02:13:39.600
guys, that means this one's red. But but that's been like the that's

2112
02:13:39.640 --> 02:13:43.439
been true to a Cura Toriamic character
design since the late eighties of just like

2113
02:13:43.840 --> 02:13:48.840
like all right, we're just this
hairstyle from this guy plus this one and

2114
02:13:48.159 --> 02:13:52.640
then these kinds of eyes blue.
This hair is white. He's a kid.

2115
02:13:52.880 --> 02:13:56.520
I'm not denying that. It's practically
a parody of itself at this point,

2116
02:13:56.560 --> 02:13:58.199
but it's not. You don't ever
hear about a CURATORI on the studios

2117
02:13:58.279 --> 02:14:01.960
or anything. It's like it's always
attributed to him. Yeah, I think

2118
02:14:01.000 --> 02:14:05.239
he did the designs and people ran
with it. Maybe I was thinking about

2119
02:14:05.239 --> 02:14:09.079
a white slime today. You're crazy. He's so good. He's so good.

2120
02:14:09.239 --> 02:14:16.640
Come on, white slimes, milky
slimes now called with him. Don't

2121
02:14:16.720 --> 02:14:18.680
name him, I just draw him. I'll let you guys take care of

2122
02:14:18.760 --> 02:14:26.600
that part. I don't care,
uh and then Burnout Crash is available for

2123
02:14:26.199 --> 02:14:31.239
Xbox Live, Arcade, and PlayStation
Network this week. There's one more something

2124
02:14:31.319 --> 02:14:37.239
else, because there always is,
Yes, thank you. RESI four available

2125
02:14:37.279 --> 02:14:43.159
for PlayStation Network and Xbox Games on
Demand Is that the full name of that

2126
02:14:43.279 --> 02:14:46.600
thing? Yeah, it just comes
up as a resid eval four on both

2127
02:14:46.640 --> 02:14:50.800
playforms. A game called Rotastic is
coming out for Xbox Lab Ricade this week.

2128
02:14:52.399 --> 02:15:01.760
R O t A STS Rotates.
It's not like you're your fantastic at

2129
02:15:01.880 --> 02:15:05.439
rotating. You can see where the
confusion would come up. Follow New Vegas

2130
02:15:05.560 --> 02:15:13.000
Lonesome Road the fourth DLC pack for
New Vegas fourth I have a code for

2131
02:15:13.079 --> 02:15:18.199
that. Does anyone want it?
Yeah? Are you asking the listeners?

2132
02:15:18.199 --> 02:15:20.600
Because I'm sure we could someone asking
the people in this room. No,

2133
02:15:22.159 --> 02:15:24.439
I got one too, so I'm
good. I didn't get one. I'm

2134
02:15:24.439 --> 02:15:26.920
all right. I just want somebody
to quick look who's not me? Patrick?

2135
02:15:26.960 --> 02:15:31.199
He likes, I wouldn't take it
Reallylo Milo is on sale this week

2136
02:15:31.359 --> 02:15:33.039
five bucks. That's a good deal. Yeah, it's a great game.

2137
02:15:33.159 --> 02:15:37.520
Yeah, I agree with a tough
game. It's definitely. It's tough but

2138
02:15:37.640 --> 02:15:43.079
fair. Oh it is it is
Elo Milo. We talked to when was

2139
02:15:43.159 --> 02:15:50.479
the Paxy stuff? Think talk.
We're all saying Elo Milo and I was

2140
02:15:50.560 --> 02:15:56.880
sad. I like the better ones, damn it. Yeah. Those are

2141
02:15:56.920 --> 02:16:00.359
the new releases for the week.
Let's take a couple of emails. While

2142
02:16:00.399 --> 02:16:07.079
we still have the time come back
to the past. Present keeps going.

2143
02:16:07.840 --> 02:16:13.279
Bradley Oh emails BombCast at johnbomb dot
com. First email comes in from Dan

2144
02:16:13.520 --> 02:16:20.319
Blindman in Tokyo, Japan. Hello, mister Bomb, says Daniel. Middle

2145
02:16:20.359 --> 02:16:24.560
of your Solid Rising, Last Guardy
and Final Fantasy verses thirteen have all disappeared

2146
02:16:24.640 --> 02:16:28.640
off the face of the planet.
I expected, along with most others,

2147
02:16:28.880 --> 02:16:31.680
that, due to their absence from
E three, that the famous being saved

2148
02:16:31.760 --> 02:16:35.559
for TGS strategy was in order.
I was aware that keg and a fun

2149
02:16:35.639 --> 02:16:43.360
A did announce the tide of death
for the Japanese game industry sometime ago,

2150
02:16:43.559 --> 02:16:46.719
but it seems that even the heaviest
of hitters are now nowhere to be found.

2151
02:16:46.399 --> 02:16:50.639
Most interested in the whereabouts of MGS
Rising, it would seem that since

2152
02:16:50.680 --> 02:16:54.040
its announcement, we have had a
MGS three D remake, three HDMGS remakes,

2153
02:16:54.239 --> 02:16:58.639
transferring in a new graphics engine,
but no Rising. What is going

2154
02:16:58.719 --> 02:17:01.440
on? The rumors of a new
city are taking over rising A possibility,

2155
02:17:03.399 --> 02:17:05.920
Uh, well, one thing's possible. Yeah, there's for one thing.

2156
02:17:05.120 --> 02:17:09.840
You won't we won't be transferring here
in the United States. That was the

2157
02:17:09.920 --> 02:17:13.600
hell that was a hilarious revelation during
TGS last week. I think I call

2158
02:17:13.639 --> 02:17:18.360
it something else exclusive for Japan taking
that feature out for the exclusively. Yeah,

2159
02:17:18.639 --> 02:17:22.719
they were threw all that trouble of
announcing that thing for the US with

2160
02:17:22.920 --> 02:17:26.799
explaining with an American group whatever.
That's when Japan pre ordered, they get

2161
02:17:26.879 --> 02:17:33.159
the exclusive transferring. Did you pre
order America? No? No? Do

2162
02:17:33.200 --> 02:17:37.559
you want this tragic guy then nope? Well I'm just gonna go to best

2163
02:17:37.600 --> 02:17:41.799
Buy and get transferring anyway. Batman
Arkham City comes out on October, but

2164
02:17:41.920 --> 02:17:48.719
down five dollars. No, Madden's
coming out next August. Those games did

2165
02:17:48.879 --> 02:17:52.680
kind of disappear, didn't they They
did? Yeah, Rising, especially Rising

2166
02:17:52.799 --> 02:17:58.559
is is that what is going on? Was that move and A while,

2167
02:17:58.680 --> 02:18:03.559
I mean these all seem so,
these all seemed beleaguered to one to some

2168
02:18:03.719 --> 02:18:07.079
extent. No, that's a I
was just just a controller. Was it

2169
02:18:07.120 --> 02:18:11.639
ever motion controls or anything? Okay, it was just that slicing watermelon.

2170
02:18:11.680 --> 02:18:13.520
It's just you're just thinking fruit ninja, because that's what that game is.

2171
02:18:13.559 --> 02:18:16.920
A right versus thirteen I think is
continuing a pace. I just think that

2172
02:18:18.079 --> 02:18:22.520
it's taking fucking forever. So that
was that happen. But I mean Versus

2173
02:18:22.600 --> 02:18:28.280
thirteen was announced right alongside thirteen.
But they've they've shown stuffy for that game

2174
02:18:28.360 --> 02:18:31.200
more recently than that, Like it's
been kind of they put up, they

2175
02:18:31.360 --> 02:18:35.280
rolled out things. I mean it's
it's no moura Is is running that project

2176
02:18:35.360 --> 02:18:39.360
and that guys like crazy perfectionists and
stuff. I'm taken forever. Those studios

2177
02:18:39.399 --> 02:18:43.159
are all kind of having a little
trouble. There was a there was a

2178
02:18:43.639 --> 02:18:48.040
keep in mind also there was that
whole tsunami thing earlier this year. Yes,

2179
02:18:48.600 --> 02:18:50.799
I don't mean that kind of trouble. I don't mean impact. I'm

2180
02:18:50.799 --> 02:18:54.959
saying like like that, not to
not to forget that that was a significant

2181
02:18:54.959 --> 02:18:58.479
thing that impacted all of Japan,
even areas that were not necessarily hit by

2182
02:18:58.479 --> 02:19:05.280
a little tsunami. So I could
see that impacting when games with Last Guardian,

2183
02:19:05.360 --> 02:19:07.959
that was a game that when they
first showed it like that was all

2184
02:19:07.000 --> 02:19:11.879
they had was a trailer. Uh, so you know, for them to

2185
02:19:11.959 --> 02:19:15.280
take their time on on actually producing
whatever the fuck that game is actually going

2186
02:19:15.360 --> 02:19:18.639
to be, those guys, yeah, they always take take their sweet time

2187
02:19:18.680 --> 02:19:20.559
as well. Rising is the one
that seems a little suspect, yeah,

2188
02:19:20.680 --> 02:19:24.319
that it might just disappear, something
may have gone off the rails. Well,

2189
02:19:24.360 --> 02:19:28.040
there was a completely unsubstantiated rumor of
a few months ago that reminded me

2190
02:19:28.120 --> 02:19:33.399
Vank, which guys Platinum, right, Yeah, Platinum was rumored someone I

2191
02:19:33.440 --> 02:19:37.079
saw somewhere that they were supposedly taking
over. But then that hasn't even come

2192
02:19:37.079 --> 02:19:41.000
to me, said anything, but
that sounds like the best thing that could

2193
02:19:41.000 --> 02:19:43.360
happen to that game personally, And
what is versus I think the thing that

2194
02:19:43.399 --> 02:19:46.159
could happen to that game? What's
that got that game? Oh? Come

2195
02:19:46.239 --> 02:19:50.399
on, don't you at least want
to see what it turns out to be?

2196
02:19:52.040 --> 02:19:54.079
They didn't show enough of it too, Like really, I think riding's

2197
02:19:54.079 --> 02:19:58.559
a great character. Cut those watermelons
any which way? Yeah, which means

2198
02:19:58.600 --> 02:20:00.239
that by the time it comes out
the other end, it's going to be

2199
02:20:00.319 --> 02:20:05.079
a connect game, right the watermelon, you know, I told say that,

2200
02:20:05.639 --> 02:20:07.959
like that stuff seems tailor made for
Maybe that's what connect. It's going

2201
02:20:09.000 --> 02:20:13.120
to be the journey when the watermelon
comes up, it's riding on rails,

2202
02:20:16.040 --> 02:20:22.440
riding, riding on rails, riding
on rails, Railsdame Weird German board games

2203
02:20:22.440 --> 02:20:26.159
like it's never understand too complicated,
just pup on the board and then you

2204
02:20:26.239 --> 02:20:31.559
win watermelon at the other end.
H So you know, yeah, yeah,

2205
02:20:31.719 --> 02:20:35.840
Rising seems like that could turn into
a real StarCraft Ghost kind of situation.

2206
02:20:37.159 --> 02:20:39.399
I feel like it's getting too far
away from Just four at this point

2207
02:20:39.520 --> 02:20:43.600
for me to even remember what Riding
was supposed to be, Like Cyber Cyber

2208
02:20:46.760 --> 02:20:48.639
he died and they've brought him back. Yeah, but it's like kind of

2209
02:20:48.680 --> 02:20:52.079
like it's too much time is elapsing
now, like kind of losing interest?

2210
02:20:52.159 --> 02:20:56.959
But what what's versus exactly? Who
knows? Okay, I don't know.

2211
02:20:56.159 --> 02:20:58.879
That last trailer looked pretty awesome.
What do you Do You Fight? Is

2212
02:21:00.000 --> 02:21:03.319
a fighting game? No? I'm
fucking stunned that you were more interested in

2213
02:21:03.360 --> 02:21:05.760
that game than Is it a battle
arena? I don't know. Is it

2214
02:21:05.799 --> 02:21:11.000
an MMO? No? I think
it's an action game. It's like an

2215
02:21:11.040 --> 02:21:16.440
action action RPG slash, but not
in the way that. Yeah, I

2216
02:21:16.479 --> 02:21:18.799
don't know. Like the trailer looked
cool. It's got a weird, like

2217
02:21:18.959 --> 02:21:22.760
sort of better than Fine Fantasy thirteen. It's got like a weird modern day

2218
02:21:22.799 --> 02:21:26.040
Tokyo vibe. It's like it's set
in the real world or something. What's

2219
02:21:26.079 --> 02:21:28.360
going on with their MMO is that's
still free to play? Fourteen fourteen?

2220
02:21:30.079 --> 02:21:31.879
No, no, no, they
didn't charge people for a while because it

2221
02:21:31.959 --> 02:21:37.520
was so the team they appointed,
like a whole new team of people to

2222
02:21:37.840 --> 02:21:41.479
make it better. I wonder if
they started charging people again. I don't

2223
02:21:41.440 --> 02:21:45.360
see. That's what I think they
had. They're they're in a weird kind

2224
02:21:45.399 --> 02:21:48.920
of place. Also, like what
are they doing with the rest of their

2225
02:21:48.040 --> 02:21:54.559
publishing arm of like publishing Western stuff
basics, Like you know that this that's

2226
02:21:54.600 --> 02:21:58.559
gonna be the be the weird transition? Is that that's those are going to

2227
02:21:58.600 --> 02:22:03.159
be the game? Is that that
company going? And but I mean that's

2228
02:22:03.200 --> 02:22:07.399
awesome. Fantasy will be like the
weird like I guess we could kind of

2229
02:22:07.440 --> 02:22:11.479
thing. Yeah, but I mean
that was effectively an Idolis game, right,

2230
02:22:11.600 --> 02:22:13.840
Yeah, but they're all one company
now, I know, I know,

2231
02:22:13.159 --> 02:22:18.520
but I think another Supreme Commanders coming
down. No, I don't know.

2232
02:22:20.200 --> 02:22:24.799
We're we're places for some of those
square own Space Invaders now, oh

2233
02:22:24.879 --> 02:22:30.840
that's right, yeah, that's them. That's weird. We'll getting back to

2234
02:22:30.920 --> 02:22:35.479
the Canomy stuff for Rising, like
it's there if you if that were to

2235
02:22:35.520 --> 02:22:41.000
get you know, turf to another
developer, if it's in some sort of

2236
02:22:41.200 --> 02:22:43.959
hell right now, it's current developer, Like, is there anyone that you

2237
02:22:43.040 --> 02:22:46.760
think could do Who was the current
developer it was? It was, yeah,

2238
02:22:48.040 --> 02:22:50.799
straight up, it was being run
by a different guy. Yeah,

2239
02:22:50.920 --> 02:22:54.799
but man, do I not understand
that organization like the with Kagema Productions and

2240
02:22:54.920 --> 02:22:58.920
relationship with with Canomy, Like I
really don't have a logo at the beginning

2241
02:22:58.959 --> 02:23:01.879
of a Kestlvanian larders. Yeah,
yeah, like oversaw that game showed up

2242
02:23:01.879 --> 02:23:05.719
twice and said, yeah, all
right, this cut seems pretty good.

2243
02:23:05.799 --> 02:23:09.760
Yeah, if you could thee like
the engine. Yeah, when they announced

2244
02:23:09.799 --> 02:23:11.760
it was the same time they announced
Frans Faring, right, Yeah, it's

2245
02:23:11.799 --> 02:23:13.879
like, yeah, we've made this
new multi platform engine. This is what

2246
02:23:13.920 --> 02:23:18.360
all our stuff's going to be on. What what that stuff? Maybe?

2247
02:23:18.479 --> 02:23:20.040
Who can say? What was the
third game on? There is a Final

2248
02:23:20.120 --> 02:23:28.040
Fantasy it was, right man?
Yeah, I don't I don't know you

2249
02:23:30.559 --> 02:23:33.799
Yeah, they're doing Yeah. I
wonder if if Rising will ever actually be

2250
02:23:33.959 --> 02:23:37.879
a game, And sometimes I wonder
if it ever actually was a game.

2251
02:23:37.920 --> 02:23:41.200
Well, I mean, I'm sure
in their minds it was gonna be yeah,

2252
02:23:41.319 --> 02:23:43.760
yeah, yeah, definitely regardless of
what's kind was on, like all

2253
02:23:43.799 --> 02:23:46.760
these remakes and stuff. I wonder. I mean they you know, they

2254
02:23:46.840 --> 02:23:50.479
got up on stages at press conferences
and showed footage right and stuff, but

2255
02:23:50.559 --> 02:23:52.879
there was nothing this year. Right. No, No, that's that's what's

2256
02:23:52.879 --> 02:23:56.639
so weird. It was was it
last year? Yeah, it was two

2257
02:23:56.719 --> 02:24:00.760
years ago. Both they announced it
two years ago and then show it.

2258
02:24:00.920 --> 02:24:03.680
Yeah, that's what it was,
and then showed the watermelon cutting thing last

2259
02:24:03.920 --> 02:24:07.799
year. That website. It's been
over two years since they announced it and

2260
02:24:07.879 --> 02:24:11.319
they've shown that one like quick.
Yeah, because it was the it was

2261
02:24:11.440 --> 02:24:18.000
the like Beatles rock band year that
they had the announcement. That sounds right.

2262
02:24:18.159 --> 02:24:22.159
Yeah, I don't know. They're
working on like nine remakes like Zone

2263
02:24:22.159 --> 02:24:26.360
of the Enders games and and all
that other stuff. You have to wonder

2264
02:24:26.520 --> 02:24:28.440
like if at some point, just
like financially, it got weird and they

2265
02:24:28.479 --> 02:24:31.760
were like, well, if we
remake all these games and we'll cost a

2266
02:24:31.799 --> 02:24:33.479
lot of money and we could put
out a bunch of them. Yeah,

2267
02:24:35.280 --> 02:24:37.680
I don't know. We need the
scratch gets done. Health Clubs ain't pulling

2268
02:24:37.680 --> 02:24:45.719
it in Konami, that's right,
has some weird businesses in Asia. All

2269
02:24:45.799 --> 02:24:48.079
right, thanks everyone who wrote in. We gotta end this podcast right goddamn

2270
02:24:48.200 --> 02:24:50.559
now, Vinnie, Jeff, and
Brad, thank you guys so much.

2271
02:24:50.719 --> 02:24:54.559
Thank you. That's it for the
podcast. Thanks for listening. We'll be

2272
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back next week