1 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:30,839 Hello and welcome to another edition of the Paranormal Concept Show, exclusive to the 2 00:00:31,079 --> 00:00:34,719 UK Radio Network. I'm your host, Paul Rogan. As always, we 3 00:00:34,759 --> 00:00:38,240 are joined in the studio by the amazing Kerry Greenaway. Hello, Kerry, 4 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,600 Hello, how are you? I'm not too bad? How are you being 5 00:00:42,719 --> 00:00:51,240 busy? Dragged the head backwards? Busy? No? Actually what Yeah, 6 00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:56,759 I've just been focusing on Spirit Soul Island crystals. Obviously you've had some changes 7 00:00:56,799 --> 00:01:00,479 in your job as well, and you know it's kind of got corried. 8 00:01:00,479 --> 00:01:03,680 I can't believe it's five months. I literally can't believe it's five months. 9 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:12,560 It doesn't feel that long. But I know you're having fun, so they 10 00:01:12,599 --> 00:01:18,959 say absolutely. Yeah. So what sort of rabbit hole we delving into tonight? 11 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:25,439 We're having a look at vampires. Ooh. Now this actually came off 12 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,319 the back of I've been watching, you know, keeping an eye on the 13 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,560 socials as you do, you know, you scroll through, and something came 14 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:36,519 up about were wolves and like you're supposed to shoot them with the silver bullet, 15 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:41,599 right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But why because that's what 16 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,719 I say, Well that's what they say, but I didn't know, and 17 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,280 I want you to know why so anyway, that let me down a rabbit 18 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,280 hole. Did you make a leap from aware wolfing head with a silver bullet 19 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,680 and vampires? Well then that went on too, like you know, garlic 20 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,840 for vampires, okay, and it's sort of like that's where it sort of 21 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,439 evolved. So I was looking at doing a show on like why these myths 22 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:13,599 are surrounding as but it wasn't as easy as you know, It's not like 23 00:02:13,879 --> 00:02:16,280 it wasn't as easy as like tracing it back. So when the first account 24 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:21,159 was it really wasn't easy. So I then thought, so you mean it 25 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:31,360 doesn't go back to Sessim Street and can No, it goes back a bit, 26 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:37,240 and there's so much media influence as well in regards to it, and 27 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,840 we've you know, like and then I was thinking, we haven't actually done 28 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:45,599 a show on vampires. I know if I've spoken like I've interviewed people to 29 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,800 do with vampires, but I've not actually done a show research on vampires. 30 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,199 And I thought, oh, so anyway, hence here we are five months 31 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:04,039 later researchbsolutely. He read through it and I can't wait for this because some 32 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,240 of these worlds I thought that when I was doing it, I was thinking 33 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Oh, I've got to keep him happy. He does like to he does 34 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:15,759 like it when I miss up words. And trust me, there is going 35 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,479 to be some messed up words in this particular Shine. Oh absolutely, I'll 36 00:03:20,479 --> 00:03:24,280 read the only words that are normal in this research vampires. Okay, Kerry 37 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:31,960 take it away. So anyway, oh dear, the problem with vampires is 38 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,280 there's so much modern mythology. Like I say modern mythology, I mean, 39 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,039 like so much media influence. And this is what I mean. I mean, 40 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,960 I first came across a vampire when I read the and Rice books. 41 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:52,039 And then obviously we've had Twilight. Yeah, what else have we had recently? 42 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:58,879 Dracula Dead and Loving It? That was a good one. What's that 43 00:03:58,919 --> 00:04:10,080 one's comedy? Will comedy swoof Dracula? Okay, as always the curve balls 44 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:13,520 people, as always the curve balls. So anyway, I just kind of 45 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,360 wanted to know where they were, see I always you know, you've got 46 00:04:15,399 --> 00:04:23,959 to go to account Dracula, I mean, obviously, but does it is 47 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,439 it a Transylvanian mythology? Where does it come from? So I kind of 48 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,720 like had to delve a little bit really in regards to this, because where 49 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:40,160 does it where does the thought that somebody would rise from the grave to suck 50 00:04:40,199 --> 00:04:45,439 your blood come from anyway? Isn't that more like I would have thought, 51 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,839 I mean, not going inwead of your research at the moment, because it's 52 00:04:48,959 --> 00:04:56,839 down there somewhere I thought something religious. I would have thought that'd be a 53 00:04:56,879 --> 00:05:01,720 religious conversation of maybe not going to church. Demons are going to come and 54 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:08,480 get you, and that's before the damon's going to take it's going to suck 55 00:05:08,519 --> 00:05:13,040 you dry. Obviously, it's that. Yeah, I mean, I think 56 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,279 it goes back to if you think about it, back in the day. 57 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:24,199 We we're very advanced now, but back in the day they didn't have an 58 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:30,560 understanding of the body and how it works. So like with the blood diseases 59 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:36,079 as it were. Yeah, we know that there are some conditions that like 60 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:42,839 clog the blood and make it congeal and these slower and stuff like that. 61 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:48,120 So I just wonder how much of it's linked to their understanding of you know, 62 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:54,160 we're not talking abou actually about a physical vampireic form appearing and sucking the 63 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,759 blood from the neck. What are I think what we're talking about is like 64 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:03,920 more like a spiritual aspect of an entity coming and taking the life force, 65 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:10,360 because blood represents life force, right, it does. Absolutely, It's like 66 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:14,240 the blood even in Christianity, it's like the blood of Christ, isn't it. 67 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,279 It's important, it's the vitality, it's his, his essence. I 68 00:06:19,319 --> 00:06:23,600 suppose you would call it. So if somebody got ill with I don't know. 69 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,759 Back in the day there was consumption, and there was like you know, 70 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,040 small parks and all of those kind of additions. If there wasn't anything 71 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:39,639 visible, but somebody had a condition, maybe they would put it down to 72 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:54,079 more an etheric suction of somebody's life, the whole blood lain and things like 73 00:06:54,120 --> 00:07:00,560 that. Even like in modern medicine now they just find reinteresting ducing muggets and 74 00:07:01,959 --> 00:07:10,639 leeches to draw, to draw the bad humors out of the blood. It's 75 00:07:10,759 --> 00:07:15,120 drawing, isn't it. It's kind of drawing the infection or whatever it is. 76 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,319 And also I think part of that isn't part of that though, to 77 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:27,519 help kick start the human's natural immune system. Absolutely, so, I don't 78 00:07:27,519 --> 00:07:32,120 think they were doing it with the understanding of trying to kick start the body's 79 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:42,639 immune system back in the day. Does that make sense? I think it's 80 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,759 so. I don't think it's based like the mythology itself. I don't feel, 81 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,399 in fact, I know it's not because I've done the research based in 82 00:07:50,439 --> 00:08:00,720 a physical person than it is more a spiritual entity with the vampires of things. 83 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,959 I think it's just a mixture of mix and match of different mythologies going 84 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,839 down the line. It definitely evolves. But when I looked into this, 85 00:08:09,959 --> 00:08:20,360 there was definitely I there's definitely links to lots of different cultures and times. 86 00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:28,839 So it's not as you have to literally go back, you literally have to 87 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:31,919 go right right back, because like when I first started looking at this, 88 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:43,159 it shows that our modern description of vampires of what that was goes actually back 89 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,840 to Assyria, okay, and the Babylonian empires, all those good are. 90 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,759 But there's quite a lot when we talk about stuff like this, a lot 91 00:08:50,799 --> 00:08:56,440 of a lot of our mythology and a lot of our myths and legends and 92 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:03,600 our a lot of that always goes back to the earliest known Mesopotamian civilization, 93 00:09:03,879 --> 00:09:07,639 Samaria, Babylonian, do you know what I mean? Greek and Roman as 94 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,399 well. Yeah, no, that's this is earlier than that. Okay, 95 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:15,639 So this is going back earlier than that. And this is what I mean. 96 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,559 It's almost like if you look at I'm not very good at my geography, 97 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,200 folks. As you know, if you haven't, have you been part 98 00:09:24,279 --> 00:09:31,519 of this journey for the last god knows how many years. If you look 99 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:41,000 at the region of where that's sat that actually does sit in, like Sudan, 100 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,919 Iran, Iraq, Palakistan, that those kind of regions, Jordan, 101 00:09:46,279 --> 00:09:50,720 you know that region the Middle East. Yeah, that would have been easy 102 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:54,840 way of saying it wouldn't the Middle East kind of era. So when you 103 00:09:54,879 --> 00:10:00,240 start looking at it, there's an awful lot that comes out from there. 104 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:07,600 And that, if I'm wrong, is from what I understand from Mesopotamia, 105 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,039 it's literally opposite Greece, and there's a whole Mediterranean scene between them, don't 106 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,840 get me wrong, but you know it's sort of like across the river, 107 00:10:16,159 --> 00:10:20,679 across the sea. Yeah, absolutely, you can understand the trading routes would 108 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,200 have taken these these missing toels into Europe, and I think that would have 109 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:35,080 also gone through right lithuane Urine and then further up into the Yeah, so 110 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:37,960 you can see where it sort of evolves around that are branches through. But 111 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,759 that was the first that was the first creature that fitted the modern description. 112 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:50,399 Right. I mean, this is like it's such an old belief system. 113 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:54,600 I mean, like this is the problem, and how it is documented is 114 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,840 the other problem as well. But what they believed was right. There was 115 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:05,480 two classes of demons with vampire tendencies, will put it. They were called 116 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:20,000 the Ekimu, and that to Cuba it's too coup the god they give ha. 117 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:28,399 Well, the were the angry spirits of people who had died, right, 118 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,960 They were unburied, prowl in the earth, and then you could put 119 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:37,080 them to rest quite easily by burying them, right, right, Okay. 120 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:50,279 The other one was very similar to that, but they said it was the 121 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:56,320 spirit of a dead person who had been buried but forgotten. So it's very 122 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,200 important to honor your dad even after the dead. We see this again, 123 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,399 We see this across culture, even US Halloween, do you know what I 124 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,679 mean? Day of the Dead, it's honoring your dead. And actually if 125 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:16,799 you go, yeah, if you go more indigenous, they actually do ceremonies. 126 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:18,559 I mean, god, there's even one village. I don't know, 127 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,039 I can't remember what it's good. But they bring their dead out, don't 128 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:24,320 they. Yeah, yeah, they do and hang out with them still. 129 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:30,320 Yeah, so it's honoring the dead. So so the atuku is the form 130 00:12:30,519 --> 00:12:35,919 of person who's died that is not being honored after they've been dead. So 131 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,600 they've been dead and buried. They're actually under the ground, but no one, 132 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,840 no one, no one, no one cares. Basically, yeah, 133 00:12:43,879 --> 00:12:52,480 no one cares. So the tuko returns from the underworld and then looks for 134 00:12:52,759 --> 00:13:01,240 sustenance. I suppose you would call it from its victims. Okay, basically 135 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:09,559 they drink the blood, that's the sustenance. But then sometimes it's also how 136 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,840 they withdraw the life force from the person as well. So it's like it's 137 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:20,240 either a physical thing by them drinking the blood or it's an etheric thing where 138 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:26,080 they're taking away your You're you're drawing off of your oric field, as they 139 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:31,159 would say, in the spirits of your field. That makes sense. Yeah, 140 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:41,879 yeah, so yeah, so that's it. That's all you researched on. 141 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:46,320 Thanks very much. Pretty right, right, there we go. So 142 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:54,879 this kind of took form, like this story is three thousand year old, 143 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,039 okay, main it goes back a long, long way, absolutely long, 144 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,519 one long way. But there were seven apparently seven spirits, and there was 145 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,759 an incantation. I don't actually know whether I should say the incantation, but 146 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:15,080 it's to do with vampires, so we'll do it, and let's hope I 147 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:20,360 don't raise one of these so called theos or whatever they're called. Seven are 148 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:24,200 They knowing no care? They grind the land like corn, knowing no mercy. 149 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:30,759 They rage against mankind. They spill their blood like rain, devouring their 150 00:14:30,799 --> 00:14:35,080 flesh and sucking their veins. They are demons full of violence, ceaselessly devouring 151 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:43,080 blood beautiful And after someone is that, I want to get into church, 152 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:48,559 don't I? Yeah. What's interesting is the seventh the seventh spirits that that 153 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:56,679 was referring to, appears in magic spells later comes up later again in history 154 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:03,919 and it's syric spell, so we you know, Like that's why I was 155 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,919 like a bit like do I read this out or not? Because I don't 156 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:09,600 really want one visiting me. And anyway, I've done it now, so 157 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:13,080 it's a bit late. It's a bit busy at the moment with Christmas and 158 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,919 everything coming up. I think a bit lashing I need to deal with on 159 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:28,440 top of everything else. Is a Syrian spirit quite frankly. So now going 160 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:35,200 back a bit further in Gilgamish, we go back to Gilgamish, right, 161 00:15:35,759 --> 00:15:39,399 it's Samrian hero Gilgamish. You know again, it's another one we go back 162 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:46,039 to. It comes up time and time again when we're researching topics. Now, 163 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:52,679 this is about the Lilu or Leliu and this reminds this starts to bring 164 00:15:52,679 --> 00:15:58,000 me into more mind of you know, more modern concepts of this, like 165 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:06,600 lilis basically the same character. Well, this Lili was one of four demons 166 00:16:06,879 --> 00:16:11,440 and these are class as vampires. The other three were Lalito, which is 167 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:18,879 Lilith. Okay, okay, and then you've got the ard At Lily, 168 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:25,399 which is the handmaiden, and the Urdu Lily, who was the male counterpart 169 00:16:25,399 --> 00:16:29,159 of it. But these were basically visit women at night, make them pregnant. 170 00:16:29,679 --> 00:16:36,320 And the LOLAIGHTI was believed to be she's very promiscuous. Is this one? 171 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:48,080 This reminds me of the succubas. Yeah, that comes at night and 172 00:16:48,360 --> 00:17:00,080 sucks you out in all manners. Sorry, I've been watching Ghosts. If 173 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,879 anybody who missed that reference, then you need to go and watch that breakground. 174 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,640 So when you think about it, that's where that sort of starts to 175 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:18,039 come from. And again this was Sameria, but the Hebrews right adopted versions 176 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:25,279 of these legends, but they appeared you know, around Mesopotamia, Babylonian Hebrew. 177 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,880 All of these legends sort of like coagulate together and it comes through, 178 00:17:30,599 --> 00:17:33,480 right, see that sort of thing going on in modern day traditions, especially 179 00:17:33,559 --> 00:17:40,680 with Christmas coming up. That was like the Pagans, wasn't a pagan festival? 180 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,440 Well, there are pagan traits in there, it's not. It wasn't 181 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:51,559 that because the pagan festival happens on the Yuill happens on Yull, doesn't it, 182 00:17:51,599 --> 00:17:56,440 which is along and took their favorite bits of it and molded it into 183 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,000 a new holiday. Well they did because it brought everybody under the same banner, 184 00:18:02,319 --> 00:18:07,000 so exactly, which is where the Pagan's like, yeah, exactly, 185 00:18:07,079 --> 00:18:12,400 that's what it is. However, there was actually a reference to a vampire 186 00:18:12,839 --> 00:18:18,319 entity before they took on this mythology. Okay, right, and it goes 187 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:25,720 actually they call it a horse leach or bloodsucker, and it's a Luca Luca 188 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:33,400 Okay, so that is referenced before Lilith comes in. If that makes sense, 189 00:18:34,519 --> 00:18:40,279 and it's about it's more like a goal than anything else, more than 190 00:18:40,319 --> 00:18:51,599 a vampire in my you know opinion. So Lilith, Now, who was 191 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,279 Lilith? Because Lilith is the main theme that comes out of this when you 192 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,160 follow threads, Yeah, you've got ten us descriptions. But when you are 193 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:03,640 going back to actually we start to get a bit more meat on the bones 194 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,119 regarding this. We then start coming into the Hebrew culture, the Jewish culture, 195 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:17,519 and Lily Lilith, sorry Lilito then comes becomes Lilith, and then we 196 00:19:17,599 --> 00:19:25,799 recognize her in Christianity as the first wife of Adam, as you know Adam 197 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:32,680 and Eva Adam. But she was a bit feisty for Adam. Yeah, 198 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:51,480 I can imagine little mm hmm. Come on, what is all I was 199 00:19:51,480 --> 00:20:03,799 saying on that one? Everyone was thinking it anyway. Anyway, she was 200 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:07,240 not going to be subservient to Adam. She she is like, I am 201 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:15,440 equal to you. And Adam went and basically complained to God. And there 202 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,920 are two versions of this. Basically Adam complained to God and then cast out 203 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:27,400 Lilith, and there are other stories where she actually said ju I'm off mate, 204 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,119 and then she basically went and had sex with lots of demons and had 205 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:37,480 lots of demon babies, and that's what the Hebrews follow. So Lilith is 206 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:44,680 like a super nasty, nasty girl and then basically to sustain herself, she 207 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,400 would suck the blood of the infants, and sometimes she's portrayed as the owl. 208 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,799 Okay, so she comes up in mythologies and how there's a possibility it's 209 00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:59,960 to do with lilith Ah. So that's where Lilith comes in. The interesting 210 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:04,640 thing I just want to when I on a completely different subject, I was 211 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:11,720 looking at Lilis and she's linked also to the serpent in the Garden of Eden 212 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:18,240 who tempted Eve into biting into the apple the knowledge that download that old Eve 213 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,359 decided to get and then got. Adam has not got a very big wrap 214 00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:29,000 in regards to women, has he. The first funny pigs is like a 215 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:33,000 ball breaker, right, and he's like, I'm not happy with that because 216 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,680 you know, and then her long comes Eve all like flower power and a 217 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:45,519 lot more subservient to his needs of his primacy. It eats an apple that 218 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:51,440 she's been told specifically not to do. Oh dear, hilarious, Well it 219 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,880 doesn't actually specify in the Bible that it wasn't apple. I know we're going 220 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,119 with apple though, but it was more likely to be a fig. Whatever 221 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:06,480 she ate, she wasn't supposed to. That's where we're going with that. 222 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:11,359 So anyway, in the Middle Eastern vampire creatures that actually link more to a 223 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:18,880 European Yeah, it was that the gateway basically of how it got into that. 224 00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:29,559 There is evidence that Greece had a massive infusion of their legends that you 225 00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:34,519 know, the mythologies around them, and that actually came from the Mesopotamian era 226 00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:41,119 and influences that they had. Okay, so when we get to like when 227 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:48,480 we come into like the first millennial BC, it literally has a bit of 228 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:55,119 that explosion that comes in. Now, the Greeks then decided to take this, 229 00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:02,240 this legend of this vampire demon of Lolito Lilith. They changed her name 230 00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:08,119 to Lamia, and this had because the Greeks used to like mixing, didn't 231 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:14,039 they a bit like the Egyptians. She had a face and upper body of 232 00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:17,680 a woman and the tail of a serpent, which when you think about it, 233 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:25,200 think of aducer. Yeah, that kind of feeling. Obviously, we've 234 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,279 got to love it right. She disguised themselves as human women, and along 235 00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:37,279 the way they devoured children and such life force from him. I think it 236 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:41,440 was just one huge cover up. To be fair, all these people died 237 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:57,160 of bloodsucking creatures. Yeah, a demon this spread in, this spread across 238 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:03,119 the land and hip for ours, lusty old France. We're a lammia named 239 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:10,920 Melusine magically until concealed, even her blue and white serpents. Tal married a 240 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,200 French nobleman and repurposed as a water fairy. And that's actually another part of 241 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:22,759 like how colorful European legends. Oh, it's a little bit crazy how things 242 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,799 change. But it's like Chinese whispers, isn't it. But the French took 243 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:27,680 her on as well. I was like, yea, hey, it's almost 244 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,920 like playing past a parcel with a story, isn't it. It really is? 245 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,319 It really is that everybody putting their own twist on it to fit the 246 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,839 Romantis, and then they passed it to France. I know. But then 247 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:45,720 we go into Romania. Now we're starting to get more into the vampire that 248 00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:49,400 we know and love. Right, We're starting to think, oh yeah, 249 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:55,599 right, we're great. We're now coming into that kind of landscape. Obviously, 250 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:06,720 you've got Transylvania, and that's where Countdracula came. And actually, say, 251 00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:14,480 one of the most iconic viewpoints of that is Bella Lagasy's nineteen thirty one 252 00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:21,960 movie version of Count Dracula Lagossi. Sorry, Bella Lagossi. Wasn't there one 253 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,640 Nosferrati, there was, but this is the one that's referenced just that bought 254 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:38,079 the Transylvania Lincoln more. Right, So they say that their Dracula or their 255 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:45,680 vampire is obviously flat the Impaler. Yeah, Now he was the one sort 256 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:52,039 of goes so as the original Dracula. The reason for this was he it's 257 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,240 never ever been suggested he drank blood as in the physical act of blood. 258 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:06,880 He was blood thirsty, as in he was terrific. Yeah, I mean 259 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,640 any of his any means we would like cut our heads off and put them 260 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:15,240 on pikes. Well, he actually impaled twenty thousand people in one go. 261 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:26,440 Yeah, for the Turkish soldiers. Those were But Romania has actually absorbed the 262 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:33,039 traditions from Greece. Okay, right, So huh so when you follow it 263 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:37,440 through, you can see how it's kind of like spreading out. So they 264 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:42,400 actually have the Greek influence, the Greek influence, have Mesopotamian influence off that. 265 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:47,279 Branching off of that, you've also got a Hebrew influence coming through. 266 00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:52,279 So we're covering quite a lot of like cultures, traditions, and mythologies surrounding 267 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:57,480 the vampire law in different forms, but ultimately they're all sort of being classed 268 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:06,440 as the same kind of ender tea. Then we come into Rome, the 269 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:14,960 Roman Empire. This is where Sturgoy comes from. Vampires are often known as 270 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:22,079 sturgoys, right, Yeah, Now this is actually derived from stricks, which 271 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:29,319 is the word for owl, So we've got a lilith link in there too. 272 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Yeah, it's just going back, going back into that mythology. And 273 00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:41,279 this is where Dracula being able to get around quite easily, shall we say 274 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:51,640 it comes from the shape shifting from like human to bird or human to form 275 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,640 is where this comes from. I mean, not an alb Yeah, but 276 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,559 that's a nocturnal so it makes more sense because he only comes back at night, 277 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,720 because we've told everybody that he can't come out in the day. And 278 00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:11,160 although owls are like night ours as well, we're not going to link it 279 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,319 to that because they're not as scary, and they're only singular, and it's 280 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,440 much more great immedia to have a flock of bats rather than just a single 281 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:25,000 solitary, little tiny bat. Yeah, unless you're in a mocking scenario of 282 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:32,160 the vampire where sometimes you see these spoof movies and there's only one bat that's 283 00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:36,440 like flapping around after it's transformed into the bat. But this is where the 284 00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:41,319 shape shifting comes in from the Roman Empire. That's their influence on all of 285 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:48,640 this basically, And in the British Museum they've got an image of Lilith as 286 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:55,240 like, yeah, yeah they do. I mean this is the thing. 287 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:59,000 I mean, whatever way you want to look at it, you have got 288 00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:19,559 this empiric scenario vampire entity being overlaid with the shape turned bed fly thing because 289 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:29,160 back to mammals. But then that would make sense as well, because mammals 290 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,319 are human, so if you're going to change, you could change form into 291 00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:37,240 another mammal, but you wouldn't necessarily change anyway. Even Marley's agreeing with that 292 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:41,160 one. Ye. See, Marley's still with me. He's going, what 293 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,440 are you doing? It's dinner time, I'm hungry. He's probably where he's 294 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:51,480 going forgot to feed the dogs before it started the show. Anyway, we'll 295 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,359 have a bit locker love our fami, mate. So this is where this 296 00:29:56,519 --> 00:30:02,000 comes from, right, and again we can I'm into this, even Pliny 297 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:06,480 the Elder. We've got to love a bit of Pliny. Right, I've 298 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:12,799 ever been before exactly this is all to do with all of this where it's 299 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:18,480 all around there. Then we go into Hungary for example, Turks and hungry. 300 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,079 Now this goes back to the twelfth century, okay, and they say 301 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:33,039 a demon called it is Caucus. It's Caucus. Yeah, it's a blood 302 00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:40,559 drinker and that's the oh God, lots of experts have gathered all of this 303 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,559 information. And he says, basically that has the word has its roots in 304 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,119 Turkish. The Hungarians encountered them in the eighth century, and then that's where 305 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,799 this vampire law then comes into Turkey and that goes back basically to Syria. 306 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,519 So it all basically is going back to the same sort of place now. 307 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,440 But I kind of got a bit bored with all that, Okay, So 308 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,559 I thought I want to hear some good legends. I want legends. I 309 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:11,839 don't want to History is all very interesting, but it's very complicated, and 310 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,799 everybody sort of nicked everybody else's ideas on this. Really, I think is 311 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,880 the is the vibe on this one. So I thought, well, you 312 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:25,920 know, let's go back to where it really comes from in regards to us, 313 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:36,039 because we would have learned these vampire like stories more from the bullcane this 314 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,960 area like Czechoslovakia, Slovakia, Poland Russia, those kind of places, because 315 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,279 they were trading with them, our good old Lakey. That's right, Yeah, 316 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:51,440 I were. This is quite modern, though, you'd be surprised at 317 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,359 how much there's so much modern vampire is some things going on out there. 318 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:01,400 Nothing surprises me about this world at the moment. Vampire clubs you can go 319 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,799 to, Yeah, there are real people that actually believe they are vampires and 320 00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:14,960 they will drink blood and yeah, yeah, I really don't know. I 321 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,519 really don't know about these people. There must be so many health implications for 322 00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:23,880 it. No DoD they do a screaming. Oh yeah, that's what I 323 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,440 mean. I think, you know, they quite try to be as quite 324 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,640 safe as they can, but it just it battles me while they would want 325 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,000 to do that, I don't know, but that's because we haven't got those 326 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,960 tendencies. Yeah, yeah, I mean, if you've got the tendency, 327 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,559 you've got the tendency, don't you, Indians, whether or not you want 328 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,119 to go through with it. Nowadays, we have the option to live whatever 329 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,839 lifestyle we want. Yeah, absolutely, whatever way we want, I sup. 330 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:53,759 I mean, Twilight's got a lot to do with it. I think 331 00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:59,359 these days. I don't know where some of the influences come from, to 332 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,240 be fair, but I mean everybody has their choice, and some people want 333 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:08,960 to live as vampires. Absolutely their choice, absolutely on this one, right, 334 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:17,039 Okay. So I had a little look and I found Sava Savanovic. 335 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,599 Okay, how is that? This is through the nineteenth century, right, 336 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,240 and it's quite short and sweet really. He basically lived on an old water 337 00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:37,319 mill on the rock Gotsis the river and killedn bring the blood of local mill 338 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:44,519 workers. Okay. Interesting he's referred to as Zavanovic is actually referred to as 339 00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:50,079 the first official vampire in Serbia. Okay, So I just when they're back 340 00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,920 on the other light three thousand years and just gone with that as the first 341 00:33:52,920 --> 00:34:01,440 official It's probably been a lot of unofficials. Let's have a look at this 342 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:09,079 is seventeen twenty five. Okay, So this is in the village of kiss 343 00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:16,199 ill Jevel and this was a common village, lad okay, and he basically 344 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,639 died. He just died, no real reason, no big accident, He 345 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:27,920 just pegged it. But then his death was followed by nine deaths in the 346 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:37,960 next eight days. Strange. I love this because it says the victims allegedly 347 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:47,639 claimed on their deathbed that Blagodavic bit them by the throat. Okay, okay, 348 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,599 and his wife also claimed that he visited her and basically asked for his 349 00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,239 shoes. Didn't want her blood, though, did he No, no, 350 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:01,159 no, he just wanted his shoes. Dug up the corpse to have a 351 00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:07,039 look for signs of like basically vampiresm Now, the signs they were looking for 352 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,960 were like growing hair, beard and nails. But we know that the body 353 00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:22,400 continues to grow hair nails after you die. I don't know how long that 354 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:28,360 goes on for though, no, I don't think it's too long. But 355 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,400 that's what they're looking for. I mean, these are the signs they're looking 356 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:38,760 for. So they they basically ask one of the local administrations to be present 357 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:45,320 and a priest, so they exhumed the body and they were right. The 358 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,360 body wasn't decomposed at all, and the hair, nails and the new skin 359 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,639 were fully grown. So they said, right, he's definitely a vampire. 360 00:35:54,519 --> 00:36:00,480 He's even got blood around his mouth. But the blood around his mouth, 361 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,960 I mean when they say blood around his mouth, was it just the color 362 00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:12,880 because it doesn't that it could be congealed, couldn't It could be you don't 363 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,400 know, we don't know. So anyway, basically they decided to stab him 364 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:22,960 in the heart and burn him instead. The body. This is now, 365 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:29,679 this was actually put published in a report. I'm not going to repeat the 366 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:36,000 word because I can't. And basically that's how that story spread through Europe because 367 00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:40,440 it was actually put into a publication. Yeah. Yeah, picked up our 368 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:51,239 people and they're transferred over. So another one was Cravave Colleen law yep, 369 00:36:52,719 --> 00:37:00,760 okay, so uh, this guy earned his nickname for visiting basically the cheapest 370 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:07,519 pubs and then basically would drink the leftovers. It's really skin, really super 371 00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:12,840 skin. Yeah. Now, he once mistaken a glass of red wine as 372 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,519 being an abandoned one. Very doubtful if if it was a full glass of 373 00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:20,760 wine, So he just tried to nick it. Basically, I would say 374 00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:24,760 he was confronted and basically he was said, you've got to buy me a 375 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,480 new drink, and he had no money. So the stranger got angry and 376 00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:32,840 stabbed him to death, and they say he bit him on his forearm as 377 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:40,079 well. Now, dopper Jack was cremated, so he was burnt and his 378 00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:45,239 ashes were spread on the common meadow. Right. Now, there's another story 379 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:52,039 to this where his ashes were actually placed in a common grave with paupers. 380 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:58,360 So is either one because they did have some things called Potter's fields where they 381 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,840 would put ashes of people that didn't have any money. Basically paupersfield, potters 382 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:08,960 field, that's where that comes from. So they then said that he woke 383 00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:14,800 up as a vampire. How how his ashes he got burnt? Remember, 384 00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:25,199 yeah, but they're saying that Pinocchio style with things. The original Thunderbird. 385 00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:31,039 Well, the ashes resurrected somehow, and they said it was because he was 386 00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:36,519 infected by this other the person who murdered him, who bit him. He 387 00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:40,199 was infected then, Oh, but he was too shy. He wouldn't attack 388 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,360 people. He was actually kind and mild mannered, and he was really shy. 389 00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:50,679 So he didn't. He just made them trip and fall and when they 390 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,079 cut their knee he would just lick the blood from the wound instead. Nice. 391 00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:04,199 Well, I mean saliva has got an agent mm hmmm. So I 392 00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:10,840 can understand that. But this story contributed to their vampire craze in the eighteenth 393 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,239 century that hit like England, France and Germany. So stories like this were 394 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:21,480 hitting and then the vampire craze kind of like it helped kickstart. Isn't it 395 00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:27,440 funny how a story, a legend and mythology can It's literally like ignite of 396 00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:34,519 crazed about it. Really. Yeah, happens all the time seeing news and 397 00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:42,559 the made up news on socials, especially when people go like you get reports 398 00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,960 from America and things like that, where our so and so has died this 399 00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:49,760 week he was in a car crash and we all know that. He's like, 400 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:57,320 all well and good. Oh god, yeah, I think it's The 401 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,480 Internet is a weird and wonderful place, is all I can say that one. 402 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,840 Well, that wonderful, but weird. Definitely the weird world that they 403 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,559 released on the public. Absolutely, here's a forum. Post what you want, 404 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:15,039 and then don't post what you want because you upset people. Yet some 405 00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:22,360 people can. It's weird anyway. Let's have a look at a Serbian kind 406 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:28,039 of a tail. Now. This is Arnold pa pavily A seventeen twenty six. 407 00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:32,679 Again this era, and this is again another one of those which they 408 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:39,159 think initiated the vampire pandemic and epidemic. Should I say? He moved to 409 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:45,559 the northern region of kosov Art and basically complained daily about issues with vampires. 410 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:54,280 To defend himself, he ate soil and smutched himself in blood. But it 411 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,199 didn't save him from well, no, maybe it did. Maybe that's what 412 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:04,320 we should be doing, because he survived vampire and aks. But then he 413 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:12,440 broke his neck in a fall that he had so yeah, but Padley was 414 00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:19,360 allegedly killed around sixteen people in and around the village of Veja. Okay, 415 00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:22,039 we're not a bit of a murdersprey. Yeah, a serial killer I would 416 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:27,599 go with more than vampire. Yeah, I think so it is where I'd 417 00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:35,800 go with that. Yeah, yeah, definitely you say that. But the 418 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:42,639 Australian or sorry Australian Austrian tri Austrian because we know we're in Australia. Yeah, 419 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:50,159 and the doctors did confirm his vampirism. But I think that's because they 420 00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:53,159 didn't really understand what was going on. But then what do they class as 421 00:41:53,239 --> 00:42:05,519 vampiresm psuching blood? That's really is it? Well, whilst rolled around in 422 00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:15,000 soil smells lovely, dua grando? How can I this is in Croatia and 423 00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:23,199 again seventeenth eighteenth century. Now this Zur Grandeur was a villager from Istria against 424 00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:30,639 sixteenth sixteenth, seventeenth century, and he was described as a sturgo vampire right 425 00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:36,320 And basically it was only until the eighteenth century the term vampire came in, 426 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,360 so these were all have been classed as one of the other kind of spirits 427 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:49,760 before then. But Dur Grandeur terrorized the village for sixteen years after his death. 428 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,880 Apparently he would rise from his grave at night, not on villager's doors, 429 00:42:54,599 --> 00:43:02,800 and a few days later someone would die. Okay, now they tried 430 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:08,840 to Basically, they dug him up as they always do and try to remurder 431 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:17,079 him. But they tried using a hawthorn stick, not stake through the heart, 432 00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:21,360 and so that's what they went wrong. Well, I think that's what 433 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,400 they were trying to do, is steak him through the heart, but it 434 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:31,599 was a hawthorn stick. Okay, well apparently not in this case. Okay, 435 00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:37,480 So I had to look into it, and I wondered why a hawthorn 436 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:44,039 stick wouldn't do it, right, And there is a link between the hawthorn 437 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:52,519 and death and corpses because of the smell of hawthorn. Now barely mind be 438 00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:54,639 going back in time, so the do you know, the smell would have 439 00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:59,920 been probably very similar to the stench. It can be a bit pongy, 440 00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:06,679 in, a bit decay a smell hawthorn. So because he's already dead, 441 00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:12,159 I was wondering if it was because he was already dead, it wouldn't have 442 00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:16,239 any effect on him. So you've got a tree that's linked with death and 443 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,239 corpses. He's dead and a corpse, so it's not going to have any 444 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,719 effect. Yeah, I can understand that logic. So if they'd used a 445 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:30,880 different stick, they may well have succeeded, shall we say, But basically 446 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:37,320 they stopped him with exorcis and prayers and decapitation just to finish him off for 447 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,719 good. Yeah, I think maybe if they started with a decapitation, she 448 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:55,280 might they might have got it. You never know, we know now not 449 00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:01,920 really, So I can't go much further without talking about Prague and why what's 450 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:07,280 happening to Prague? Well, first of all, it is the most Gothic 451 00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:12,519 place, Like if you think of vampires and you look at like the architectural 452 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,760 influences, Prague is kind of like up there, right, it's like one 453 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:22,840 of the most Gothic cities in Europe. It does. Have you been there? 454 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,480 I've seen pictures. Yeah, I was going to say, he was 455 00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:30,360 talking like you've been there, but prug is on my list. I will 456 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:36,639 say that I do want to go to Prague. So it's got a huge 457 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,760 vampire mythology, a huge vampire mythology. Why do you want to go there? 458 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,599 I know, But just the Gothic architecture, I just think I'd love 459 00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:50,880 it, right, and in nineteen nineties, right, They've got a lot 460 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,519 of really old graveyards in Prague, I can imagine. And there's a tenth 461 00:45:55,559 --> 00:46:06,719 there's one that dates back to the tenth century and it's Lseny Cemetery. Okay, 462 00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:15,960 now that they say was used solely for marrying vampires. Brilliant Now in 463 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:21,039 the Olseny Cemetery, which is what this is, it's it goes back to 464 00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:30,239 what we said about the knee Licka guy earlier him because that's where he's supposed 465 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,519 to haunt. Fantastic, we need to go this cemetery. I know it 466 00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:40,920 sounds amazing concept of road trip. I think to Prague that would be amazing, 467 00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:46,400 that would be good. So you know, when you go there, 468 00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:52,920 it is literally just like you could imagine vampires walking down the street with their 469 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:58,559 cloaks and their long just turn up and there's just billions and dragons walking around 470 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:04,440 it would it would you laugh if there probably is a vampire convention or something 471 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,440 that happens in Prague. There must be, yeah, I would have thought 472 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,280 so. I mean because they even do it over in the UK. I 473 00:47:10,199 --> 00:47:15,880 Whipby, Yes, we do there. Yeah, yeah, a lot of 474 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:22,719 the Victorian steampunk vibe goes on. Now I've been to Whitby, so I 475 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:31,800 yeah, not Prague. Why into Whitney just as good. Now we're going 476 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:38,480 over right, So what they're saying is because of this explosion in architecture, 477 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:46,119 it's very bohemian. So they're saying that this bohemian vibe carries through. So 478 00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:52,280 we're now going to the town of Libava and basically they have a recorded vampire 479 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,960 tale from the twelve fifties. Now, this particular vampire was supposed to be 480 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,280 a leading citizen of Libalva who had died. He says that they hired. 481 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,679 Now this was interesting, Vampire Hunters. This is the first sort of initial 482 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,960 kind of like in Nord to a vampire hunter. So they hired one from 483 00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:17,840 Hungary to rid the town of the vampire. And what he did was he 484 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,519 lured him too the bell tower because he stole his stuff, I will say 485 00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:28,239 that, and basically hit the vampire with a shovel that resulted in decapitation. 486 00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:36,760 Ooh, you certainly say about the vampire. I was actually watching an episode 487 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:44,679 of one of these shows, the Pawnbrokers, and some bought in a vampire 488 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:51,440 hummer kit. Yeah, they're amazing. They were. Actually they the paperwork 489 00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:55,960 with it, actually went and connected it to Bran Stoker. No, yeah, 490 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,719 obviously they bought it for a lads of money, but yeah, it 491 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:08,079 was really really nice, really nice set. It was right now, Vampire 492 00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:15,000 Hunters, I had to have a little look into this one because basically is 493 00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:22,679 it a Hugh Jackman kind of vampire hunter with his coat flapping around killing vampires 494 00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:27,719 with sexy little beasts popping up here and there and everywhere. No, this 495 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,920 is actually a kind of shaman So this is going into shamanic kind of magic. 496 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,119 Now they say his body, his spirit can wander from the body. 497 00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:43,039 So he goes off into the etherics, basically in the form of an animal. 498 00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:52,119 So he's called a Chrisnick. Chrisnik. He turned into an animal. 499 00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:57,519 Ae't night to fight off the Kodiak, No could, like, which are 500 00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:02,400 the vampire side? So you've always got like this battle that goes on on 501 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:14,679 the etherics. So they say that he is he's either voluntary doing it or 502 00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:17,599 a higher power is allowing his book, so a spirit to leave his body. 503 00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:22,039 This is very much like working on the astrals. Quite frankly, when 504 00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:27,519 I read, am I a vampire? Hunt them? Because I hunt on 505 00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,000 the astrals, But I don't hunt to kill. No, you don't have 506 00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:37,559 a vampires either. But it's very much like good versus evil, ying yang 507 00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:45,519 and all that sort of stuff. So it's just another mythology involving that, 508 00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:47,280 isn't it. Really? Yeah, Because at the end of the day, 509 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:53,239 right, if you've got like we're talking again, it comes back to spirituality 510 00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:58,400 because we talk about, like you said, yin and yang balance between light 511 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,519 and dark. You can't have light with dark. So if you've got a 512 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:05,840 dark entity, an evil entity, which a vampire would be classed as that 513 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:13,239 because his sucking life force off of a human, even in the even in 514 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,960 like a spiritual way of doing it, then you're going to have to fight 515 00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:23,320 it on that plane. So you would have a tool to utilize that. 516 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:30,039 So if you are trained in like shamanism or magic or those kinds of things, 517 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,360 then you would be able to keep be given the ability to walk in 518 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,639 the light in that way and actually defeat the darkness. So it doesn't surprise 519 00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:42,840 me that all of a sudden we now get in a light counterpart like as 520 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:49,760 it were. It's still got these religious connotations to it though. Well, 521 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,480 when it all goes back down to a good bad light dark, do you 522 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,360 know what I mean? It goes back to the opposite. And this is 523 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:06,119 basically what it means. And so this became really interesting because it does incorporate 524 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:12,960 the form of this is where vampire hunter history comes from, or law comes 525 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,320 from, and why we get vampire hunter law because there is an entity or 526 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,679 there is a human that can separate their body from their spirit and fight on 527 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:28,119 the etherics, fight these entities on the etherics, and that becomes really interesting, 528 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:36,199 Yeah, because I mean, in a lot of media driven stories about 529 00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:43,360 the vampire, it's not etherics. It's more physical. It's on the earth 530 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,760 plane, as it were. So you've got the whole Velvet van helsing character 531 00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:52,800 that's been given the task from the Vatican to go and kill Dracula. And 532 00:52:53,639 --> 00:53:00,920 yeah, so you've got the physical or the place of the spiritual exactly. 533 00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:07,639 So what's happened is it's basically been absorbed and been personified. These mythologies have 534 00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:13,719 been absorbed and personified. But on top of that, you have got physical 535 00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:21,800 accounts, shall we say, popping up in regards to this as well. 536 00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:25,280 So you have got like sort of things playing out in the physical that are 537 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:32,199 mimicking what the belief system is behind these mythologies. With the accounts we've been 538 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,719 reading out with these are people, These aren't. These are stories that have 539 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,199 grown up around things that have actually happened. Do you know what people that 540 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,679 have whether there are serial killers, whether there are vampires, probably not. 541 00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:50,239 The chances are they've just been labeled that because they're fitting the remit. Absolutely, 542 00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:59,320 so let's have a look at a block, right. So miss Lata 543 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,880 was local herdsman who had risen from his grave. He basically molested and murdered 544 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,280 his villagers. He'd wandered down the street yield the name of his acquaintances, 545 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,280 and then apparently as he called these names, these people would allegedly die. 546 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,280 And so basically everyone became a bit fearful of the creature in the night that 547 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:22,039 came along the road shouting names, and then they died. So basically what 548 00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:27,920 they did was they exit again the exhumation of the body, and they grabbed 549 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,079 a slaughter and pounded a steak into his heart. But on this occasion it 550 00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:39,760 didn't stop the vampire. He returned and basically was mocking the village. He 551 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:44,840 would like laugh at them, frighten them, laugh at them, and this 552 00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:47,360 was like a new level of fear. You're not just going to die, 553 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,760 but he's going to laugh in your face. Yeah, it's half the fun. 554 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,199 There's no fun if you're not going to have an enjoyable time doing it. 555 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,760 He even apparently said he was thankful to them because they provided him with 556 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:07,280 a stick to chase the dogs away. My chair I've got my stick now. 557 00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:14,719 Basically, they then stuck his body with white thorn steaks and burned him 558 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:21,400 at the stake, basically burned him to ash. Cool. But these are 559 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,119 very very they're all very very similar. Yeah, they are all very very 560 00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:30,679 similar. Man dies or person dies mostly men. Got to say it, 561 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:38,239 men, sorry, but all masculines die. Horrific. Yeah, you're lot 562 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:47,000 vampires. We are like witches. No comment, no comment at all. 563 00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:52,320 So yeah, so, and this is what the thing is, isn't it. 564 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:58,480 It's all you know, person dies. What happens next is scary. 565 00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:01,639 People are dying, Legends are popping up. Why is this happening? And 566 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,679 oh, it must be that person who died. Let's dig them up and 567 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,719 shove a steak through their heart, decapitate them and then burn them, and 568 00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:15,159 all of a sudden, the problem stops. Some thing's going on. But 569 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:22,840 what's going on is the question? No one knows. Let's have a look 570 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:30,000 at another one, and the nlapsy. He doesn't just feed on human blood. 571 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:37,199 He feeds on livestock blood too. Okay, great, and then if 572 00:56:37,199 --> 00:56:46,079 it doesn't like your blood, it just stares at you. Okay, well 573 00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:49,960 you say that, but you die because he stared at you. Because he 574 00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:52,760 kills a lot of people just by staring at them. Okay, maybe this 575 00:56:52,880 --> 00:57:00,760 is what's mut Who knows, so apparently this an elapse. Climb up into 576 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,920 the church tower, I look down on the citizens and just like murder them 577 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,719 with a glance. I mean, like swaths of people. I've got almost 578 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:14,960 like War of the World's death being kind of scenario. Maybe it's just like 579 00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:19,519 a real life version of it, wink murder or whatever they used to play 580 00:57:19,559 --> 00:57:27,199 at schools that you see in a circle facing all the other kids and there's 581 00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:30,159 one in the middle, and he's the one in the middle of go catch 582 00:57:30,199 --> 00:57:36,800 the murderer, and the murderer winks at someone and whoever they wink wink dies. 583 00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:43,400 I don't know. I've never played that game. Okay, yeah, 584 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,199 we played it, wink Murder. It was called in the middle. We 585 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:51,440 just had to guess who the murderer was. Okay, before everyone was dead, 586 00:57:54,239 --> 00:58:01,079 like all these people, right, So to prevent the dead person turning 587 00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:08,599 it into an elapses was possible by basically placing coins. Think about you'd give 588 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:15,840 a coin on the tongue to give to the ferrymen from Greek mythology enchanted herbs 589 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:22,000 and Christian symbols into the coffin, or pulling or pouring even millet to seed 590 00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:28,639 into the corpse's mouth nose and along the graveyard. Pas. Okay, I 591 00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:31,440 suppose that's what will he comes up again, you know, the birds attacking. 592 00:58:32,599 --> 00:58:39,000 No, it's because apparently you can confuse a vampire by mixing seeds with 593 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,320 like rice or something like that. Yeah, And apparently that confuses him because 594 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,599 he has to count them and separate them because he's got a bit of oo 595 00:58:47,679 --> 00:58:53,519 CD going on. So I assume that's where it comes from. I don't 596 00:58:53,519 --> 00:58:59,119 know about millet seed having any special significance. That could be completely wrong on 597 00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:02,519 that one. About half our time wise, But then you don't see like 598 00:59:02,639 --> 00:59:07,360 in the episodes of Scooby Do when they're running for the vampires d rice and 599 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,079 sees them and then stops going we'll counting. No, but the difference of 600 00:59:10,119 --> 00:59:20,679 Scooby Doo. Scooby Doo was all about a human being the spirits, never 601 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,760 a ghost. It's always human. Spoiler alert everybody, Scooby Doo, are 602 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:32,079 you kidding me anyway? On that? That's why they called count because I 603 00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:39,960 have to count everything maybe maybe, but anyway, and that we've come to 604 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:45,159 the end of the first half. Wow, it's gone really quickly on the 605 00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:51,920 bombshell of Scooby Doo is always looking for the human factor and not actually anything 606 00:59:52,119 --> 01:00:05,440 anyway. We'll be right back after this. Hello Harry Price here. If 607 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,199 there's nothing me and my friends enjoy more. Here on the other side, 608 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:14,119 it is to sit back and relax and listen to the Paranormal Concept Show right 609 01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:20,440 here on the pa UK Radio Network, broadcasting a plethora of interesting and informative 610 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,760 content for all your paranormal needs. Find them across social media to keep up 611 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:30,440 to date with forthcoming shows and all their other adventures. Hello, is there 612 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:37,000 anybody there? And welcome back to the Paranormal Concept Show, exclusive to the 613 01:00:37,039 --> 01:00:43,760 Paranormal UK Radio Network. Ah dear, we're looking at vampires tonight. So 614 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:51,679 we got to the point where we decided the Scoopy two always is looking for 615 01:00:51,719 --> 01:00:58,039 the human victim and not spiritual this because this is crosses into spiritualism and spirit 616 01:00:58,119 --> 01:01:00,239 and ethers and battles on the ether. Really having a problem with this, 617 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:07,159 isn't you a little bit? Not? My fault is history of folklore mate, 618 01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:15,119 So let's go to the Jesse. The Jesse. Yeah, this is 619 01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:22,880 Polish folklore. They believed that certain people were destined to become the Jesses from 620 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:29,800 birth, and it was possible to prevent a newborn from becoming of a Jesse 621 01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:36,599 by removing and drying the call from the head and then basically refeeding it back 622 01:01:36,639 --> 01:01:42,840 to the person on their seventh birthday. Now, the reason they it wasn't 623 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,079 like every single child. It was infants that had something called a call of 624 01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:52,800 birth. Okay, So what is a call? Though? The call is 625 01:01:52,840 --> 01:02:00,239 basically in the womb. The baby is in a sack and neotic sack. 626 01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:07,519 Yeah, and that breaks, and that's what is you then give birth, 627 01:02:08,519 --> 01:02:19,440 right Okay. Certain births don't have the breaking of the amniotic sack, so 628 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,360 they get born within the sack, right okay. So back in the olden 629 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:28,159 days, not nowadays, this is a bit by the bye. But back 630 01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:32,960 in the olden days, anybody born within the amniotic sack where known as it 631 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,800 was a call birth, right, okay, otherwise known as a veil. 632 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:45,360 Sometimes it's just sometimes the the mythology is it's just the part of the amniotic 633 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:52,239 sack across the face. Others it's the full sack, right, And so 634 01:02:52,760 --> 01:03:00,079 the Polish believed that these call birth children were destined to become the Vejesse vampire. 635 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:05,960 Right, okay, yeah your tail. Yeah. So what they would 636 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,000 do is they would dry the call and then feed it back to that person 637 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:14,960 on their seventh birthday, which was supposed to prevent the vampire. Nice possibility, 638 01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:20,400 offer cake, I know, right, it's a bit like eating the 639 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,599 placenta. It's all a bit more. I actually my cousin actually wanted to 640 01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:29,639 do that. I can't remember. He's having the baby though, and she 641 01:03:29,679 --> 01:03:31,320 said, oh, yeah, I want to try some. When she see 642 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:38,480 it, she's like, no, maybe not. It is supposed that there's 643 01:03:38,519 --> 01:03:45,000 a huge pathology regarding like obviously birth and you know, like varying tales about 644 01:03:45,239 --> 01:03:47,960 the placenta. If you eat, it's supposed to be good for the mother 645 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,559 because she's really reabsorbing the nutrients that she's given to the baby, those kind 646 01:03:53,559 --> 01:04:00,119 of things. It is supposed to be very very healthy to eat. But 647 01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:04,559 I did take a look into call birth a little bit more because I know 648 01:04:04,639 --> 01:04:11,800 that there's a huge superstitious mythology surrounding call birth in their own right. Now, 649 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,719 Medieval Britain. See, the thing is that as we've got more modern 650 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,559 in our medicine, call births are quite common now because in a caesarean, 651 01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:27,079 Yeah yeah, that's right. Wellas this is a natural birth in this form, 652 01:04:27,639 --> 01:04:30,000 not from cesarean, so you can't care if you've had a cesarean. 653 01:04:30,039 --> 01:04:33,960 You're not a call baby, all right. Unfortunately, I'm sorry to burst 654 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:45,320 your bubbles on that. You're cool, but you're not that cool now. 655 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:50,360 Midwives in the Middle Medieval Britain always sort of sorry as a good omen and 656 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:57,119 was always said to be blessed and ready for greatness, okay, And the 657 01:04:57,199 --> 01:05:00,920 call itself was highly prized, not for the child, nothing to do with 658 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,400 the child, but it was highly priced because it was contain these qualities, 659 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,960 which is actually what you want, right, You want good blessings, You 660 01:05:10,039 --> 01:05:14,079 want like you know, desire for greatness. You want this, don't you. 661 01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:19,079 Women just wanted the baby out, probably, but the men were like, 662 01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:23,480 hey, let's have the call because that's good luck. Men were all 663 01:05:23,519 --> 01:05:29,760 down a pub because the possession of the call was supposed to bestow good fortune, 664 01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:33,960 okay, right, so they were dry and sell it basically and actually, 665 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,559 to be fair, if you've just had a baby. In medieval Britain, 666 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,519 you want to earn a bit of money, keep the call, do 667 01:05:41,639 --> 01:05:45,000 it, sell it for loads of money. Great, you've got good fortune 668 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,639 out that call, and the person things he has right, so go with 669 01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:51,079 that. Worth lots more money. If our banks would come along and draw 670 01:05:51,079 --> 01:05:56,880 all over it, that would be even better. Designer one. It was 671 01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:04,800 also it was supposed to protect the individual from drowning. Okay, yeah, 672 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:10,239 I can understand that because as it's a sack full of fluid and the baby 673 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,519 safe, So yeah, I can understand that logic too. So it was 674 01:06:14,679 --> 01:06:26,960 really really popular with sailors. Bit it was, and if they didn't know 675 01:06:27,159 --> 01:06:30,639 you ever carry it around on a necklace or something. It's a bit unwieldy 676 01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:33,199 to be carrying around on a necklace. The needs to make book covers out 677 01:06:33,239 --> 01:06:41,199 of them, like the Bible, so some older Bibles will have this call 678 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:50,440 covering. In Scotland and Scandinavia that a caller baby or the call bearer is 679 01:06:50,480 --> 01:07:00,280 supposed to have been attributed with psychic powers. Oh even in like the and 680 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:05,199 monks like Tibetan Buddhists, they seek out call bearers because they think that their 681 01:07:05,239 --> 01:07:12,239 future Dala lammas. Yeah. In Egypt, a call baby is considered to 682 01:07:12,239 --> 01:07:20,400 be a mystic cool and basically the Homong people believe that the callbearers are reincarnated 683 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:29,239 monarchs and that the sack is actually part of their past attire. Okay, 684 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:35,719 makes sense, I suppose, yep. I know. However, in Eastern 685 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:42,480 Europe, as we've just heard about Poland, they think a call child will 686 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,519 become a vampire, which is why they then feed it to them on the 687 01:07:45,559 --> 01:07:54,199 seventh birthday. Rah rah. Yeah and you right, So if you nailed 688 01:07:54,440 --> 01:08:00,360 the call to your front door, all these monsters and stuff with bypassy so 689 01:08:01,519 --> 01:08:08,280 it protects you from other bad spirits like wear warves. Yeah, I should 690 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:13,400 imagine the doors covered in flies and all sorts by then. So yeah, 691 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:23,039 they just totally missed the door completely. No, it's right, it's one 692 01:08:23,079 --> 01:08:31,800 in eighty thousand, okay, in eighty thousand. Yeah, but yeah, 693 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:41,840 really really a big mythology surrounding call bearing. It hilarious, interesting, it 694 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:46,159 is fascinating. Yeah, basically now for Jesski, but going back to the 695 01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:51,039 vampire spirit that they tried to prevent the call baby from becoming if you did, 696 01:08:51,239 --> 01:08:56,640 unfortunately, become a Vjeski. Then they would know this because you would 697 01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,000 refuse to take the sacrament, you know, like just before you die. 698 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,239 Yeah, they go, no, I don't want to sacrament. That means 699 01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:12,479 you're of a Jeski. Yeah, right. So the other thing would be 700 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,840 about where the blood sits after you die, so bright red color on the 701 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,880 nails and the face and on the cheeks and on the lips would also mean 702 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,880 that you would be a v Jeski. I want to know how the time 703 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:32,039 span is on that. But they said after burial at midnight, the Vajeski 704 01:09:32,119 --> 01:09:39,039 we return to life basically eat itself beautiful and then go home and eat his 705 01:09:39,079 --> 01:09:42,840 family and friends. So that could be why they have awake because there's like 706 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:48,399 protection in numbers. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking forward a bit in 707 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:55,159 the research as well about how to protect yourself from the attack. And it 708 01:09:55,239 --> 01:09:59,960 says something there about putting soil in the coffin. Maybe that's why we were 709 01:10:00,359 --> 01:10:05,199 someone gets buried, they put they throw the soil in as dirt to dirt 710 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,560 or dust to dust, and then they throw a handful on top of the 711 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,920 coffin. Whereas that's actually in Poland area you've got to do it inside the 712 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:20,119 coffin. But we had open coffins for a long long time, yeah, 713 01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:28,920 didn't we? And I don't know if that's something that was put again. 714 01:10:29,159 --> 01:10:32,079 The death thing, the birth and the death thing is fascinating, the rituals 715 01:10:32,119 --> 01:10:38,159 that build up around these kind of things and get lost in the mists of 716 01:10:38,199 --> 01:10:40,479 time. What you know, what did they used to do? What do 717 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,119 we do now? And why has that changed? You know, a lot 718 01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:46,239 of superstitions have died out, but they want to They say, put a 719 01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:51,520 crucifix under the corpse's tongue as well, whereas like a lot of people put 720 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:57,399 a coin there so they'd have money to pay the ferryman. So I think 721 01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:01,279 this depends on your belief system as the dishes that come up. I mean, 722 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:06,520 I never really heard the one about putting it under the tongue. I 723 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:11,840 always saw it was the eyes, putting two coins on the eyes. Yeah, 724 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,760 either it's yeah, it's just as you said so differently, it was 725 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:20,520 only because the eyes pop open, so the weight of the coin holds the 726 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:27,880 eyes shut. That sounds perfect for me. What coins on the eyes? 727 01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:36,119 Yeah, I'll stick with that four or five pound coins each. He wants 728 01:11:36,119 --> 01:11:46,560 to travel the sticks in style first class, a net inside the coffin. 729 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:53,119 And also another thing we've seen again come up is basically face down in the 730 01:11:53,159 --> 01:12:00,239 coffin. And when they buried certain nefarious characters they would like alleged witches, 731 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:08,079 was always upside down, stood upright at a crossroads with you know, face 732 01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:11,520 down in the coffee. Many different variations. You're not going to be put 733 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,640 into the posa of like the composition that you would imagine of lying in a 734 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,439 coffin with your hands and your breast and you know kind of scenario. It's 735 01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:29,079 not like that basically, Oh dear, so well, I think we've covered 736 01:12:29,119 --> 01:12:38,199 those. So yeah. The thing is, I think no matter what way 737 01:12:38,279 --> 01:12:41,319 you look at it, you look at it in a way, that's all. 738 01:12:45,399 --> 01:12:48,720 They're just common themes and then natural things of one in you know, 739 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:55,159 like superstition, because see why superstition would grow up around that. It's an 740 01:12:55,239 --> 01:12:59,880 unusual birth that becomes a vampire. But what can you do about that? 741 01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:06,359 So you know, okay, we'll ground him. I can kind of undersee 742 01:13:06,359 --> 01:13:12,920 it, understand it, not undersee it. I can understand it how it 743 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,800 builds up. And again, all of these are very very very similar. 744 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:25,520 There's a nineteenth century story which is this is where we start coming into culture, 745 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:30,920 you know, like the cultural influences. But there's a nineteenth century story 746 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:36,479 about a soldier who returns home encounters a vampire sor now. I don't know 747 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:42,319 why he does this, but he took it to a wedding of all places. 748 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,479 The vampire then attacked the newlyweds because this kind of thing you do, 749 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:53,399 right, sucked out their blood. Maybe because they were like young and in 750 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:57,079 love and it was all sweet, sweet blood. I don't know. Maybe 751 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,600 so the soldier then, basically horrified by what he's seen, is make the 752 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:06,880 vampire do, actually had a conversation with him, which helped him discover a 753 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:12,279 way to stop it, because you're going to do that, if you're a 754 01:14:12,359 --> 01:14:16,399 vampire. You're going to tell the bloke you've just met how to stop you 755 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,319 exactly. And it was just amusing that he said, I just had a 756 01:14:20,359 --> 01:14:28,560 conversation with him. Excuse me, why you're ripping his face off. I 757 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:33,880 know, very sorry to disturb you while you're sucking out this wedding couples bloods 758 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:39,159 that I've been invited to his little route, you know, I didn't bring 759 01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:41,399 you here for that. Brought you here for the booze and the birds, 760 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,840 you know. So basically he was told he would have to collect the vampire's 761 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:50,560 blood and pour the wound, pour the pour the blood of the vampire back 762 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:55,119 into the couple. Then he had to take the villagers out of the cemetery, 763 01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:00,239 dig up the vampire's body, and burn it. So my argument is, 764 01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:02,760 once you've joined the vampire of blood, why don't you just burn it? 765 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,479 Why do you have to go back and get the villagers to do it 766 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:10,640 with you? Why don't you just do it in one fail swoop. You've 767 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,000 got the blood, you don't want it coming after you? You burn it, 768 01:15:14,079 --> 01:15:20,119 then then take the blood back and pouring. I don't know it. 769 01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:28,800 Maybe he was a pacifist commandle himself. But they're saying that this is a 770 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:33,560 fable, like a bit like Grim's fairy tales. Yeah, the Green Brothers 771 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:42,880 made it up, then't I? Well, no Tewski or Bolgakov or Goggle, 772 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,520 okay, And I can guarantee there's probably some some people out there who 773 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:54,279 know who these people are, who are cringing at my pronunciation of those names, 774 01:15:54,279 --> 01:16:02,479 particularly mister Goggle. Right. So but this is classical, this is 775 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:10,199 Russian, you know, classical literature. These stories are being written in. 776 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:14,880 So once it hits classical literature, mate, that's it. It's game over. 777 01:16:15,079 --> 01:16:17,600 It's they're in the psyche, it's they're being told, it's they're being 778 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:24,720 read, and it's mm hmm. Yeah. So when you you've got and 779 01:16:25,239 --> 01:16:33,119 the last time about the wedding was basically looking after the community, community, 780 01:16:33,159 --> 01:16:36,560 looking after itself. Well, you've got knowledge now of how to kill a 781 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:41,880 vampire if you come across one. Yeah, you know what you got to 782 01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:46,359 do. Yeah, zombie apocalypse, we know what to do there at all. 783 01:16:48,159 --> 01:17:00,079 Yeah, they're zombies though they're not vampires, zombie one vampires. That 784 01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:03,680 note, then why is there not a vampire Like when you think of like 785 01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:12,680 a zombie apocalypse, why is there not a vampire apocalypse? Because there'd be 786 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,800 a bit crack, wouldn't they? Why? Well, because I only come 787 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:20,800 I annoyed, don't they? They're scared of the daylight. Yeah, but 788 01:17:21,159 --> 01:17:25,159 you can imagine that, can't you. All the survivors trying to get through 789 01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:29,039 the day hunker down at night, then all the vampires come out. And 790 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:33,039 but you've been caught out because you've had to do go a million miles to 791 01:17:33,119 --> 01:17:39,159 find some you know, and you're coming across other like human groups that survive, 792 01:17:39,239 --> 01:17:44,119 but we're going to try and betray you to and you league with the 793 01:17:44,199 --> 01:17:49,279 vamps. Yeah, people just stay always going out and the vampires and that 794 01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:54,279 because I ain't got no one to eat, no blood to suck. So 795 01:17:54,359 --> 01:17:59,239 they just have to nip go back to bed, and then we can go 796 01:17:59,279 --> 01:18:05,279 out during the day a bit. It's like it'll be a invasion. I 797 01:18:05,319 --> 01:18:13,920 think it's potential. The invasion along happen twelve hours a day. It's not. 798 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,920 You can edit it, you know. But actually the only reason that 799 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:25,920 there is like if you look at twilight, they can come out in the 800 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,479 day. They just choose not to. Yeah, but they also beled and 801 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:36,840 tell you the vampires shimmer in the sunlight, behave and that's why they're not 802 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:43,479 scary in the daytime. They don't implode culture. That's made us do that, 803 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,079 the imploding ones. I'm trying to signal to my son here, and 804 01:18:49,319 --> 01:18:55,600 I'm not very good at pictionary clearly because they can't clue what I'm trying to 805 01:18:55,640 --> 01:19:02,760 dictate to. Hilarious Anyway, there's another Basically, this is another one of 806 01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:10,079 those moralic tales, and it basically follows a lad who takes his dog for 807 01:19:10,079 --> 01:19:17,000 a stroll down the woods, and it's a grade standing in front of them, 808 01:19:17,239 --> 01:19:21,239 like, oh, hello is the corpse. The lad decides to pass 809 01:19:21,279 --> 01:19:25,439 by, pretends that it doesn't matter what happens, I'm going to go past 810 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:29,960 his course. The dog follows him, but the corpse goes all there's a 811 01:19:30,039 --> 01:19:34,760 life butson right there and goes fluttering after them. I like that termology. 812 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:40,319 Goes fluttering after them, but the lad has no time to escape. But 813 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:46,239 he was surprised to see that the dog attacked the corpse, so he's happy. 814 01:19:46,319 --> 01:19:49,760 He runs off, and the dog keeps fighting the corpse, and then 815 01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:55,319 the corpse was lying dead on the ground. Then goes trot's happily home to 816 01:19:55,399 --> 01:19:59,439 its owner, and then basically when he got home, he was really annoyed 817 01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,920 of his owner, barks at him and then bites him. Everybody wonders what's 818 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:08,600 wrong with the dog, but then they said, right, what's going on 819 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,079 with the dog? So that he tells us what's happened, and they say, 820 01:20:11,159 --> 01:20:15,359 you didn't do a good thing there. The dog is disgusted that you 821 01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,119 left him to fight the corpse all by hisself. He's got every right to 822 01:20:19,159 --> 01:20:25,479 be annoyed, that's not you didn't do the right thing there. So basically 823 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,079 the dog was that annoyed they had to keep it on a chain for another 824 01:20:29,159 --> 01:20:32,359 year to calm it down. But once he got let off the leash, 825 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,600 he was still very cross, so he killed the lad So they ended up 826 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:46,159 having to kill the dog. Notice, and apparently that's supposed to teach you 827 01:20:46,199 --> 01:20:51,399 a lesson about pro social behavior. What's right in a circumstance. Your dog 828 01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:55,680 is a member of your family. You don't leave the dog to kill the 829 01:20:55,680 --> 01:21:01,199 corpse by itself. Basically, yeah, stick up for your dog, because 830 01:21:01,239 --> 01:21:06,239 your dog will stick up for you. Kind of scenario. Yeah, you're 831 01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:14,479 paying attention, Marley. You listen to this. That dog can't even see 832 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,439 a vampire. Now. He's very, very, very old. Now, 833 01:21:18,359 --> 01:21:24,720 my poor baby. Yeah, so I thought, right, I'm getting a 834 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:31,239 bit bored with the old Russians, Kosovans, Slovenica's Poland. I thought I'd 835 01:21:31,239 --> 01:21:36,720 go America. Yeah, why not? Because so far all I've come up 836 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:44,600 with is actual physical tales being told about the same kind of scenario of different 837 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,920 people, different villages, but very rural, nothing to back it up with. 838 01:21:48,359 --> 01:21:54,159 Then I come into moralistic tales regarding vampires that tend to be more Russian, 839 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,520 and then I thought, no, I want a real story with a 840 01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,560 bit of meat to the bones. Who but to give it to me than 841 01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:06,479 the Americans? Yeah, to be fair, I mean they've just you know 842 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:14,640 the one the streaming services of your watch begin one. They have just released 843 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,880 a new TV series of Interview with the Vampire they have. Yes, you're 844 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:26,000 right? Is they good at telling vampire stories? They do love a bit 845 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,760 of a vampire story on the old end, don't they they do. I 846 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:34,600 think all that stems from Whitby and Stoker and all that sort of thing. 847 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:43,079 Oh whatever, they romanticize it, that's the word. It has become very 848 01:22:43,239 --> 01:22:46,359 romanticized the vampire myth, hasn't it? Is that because it has a link 849 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,479 to sex. Possibly. I mean, I'm just a big fan of all 850 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:57,640 these films where they just like buy their necks off and rip their faces off 851 01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,960 and stuff like that. But when you look at the tail of like Dracula, 852 01:23:01,079 --> 01:23:08,159 which is where our kind of mythology comes from, that emotional bond of 853 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:15,680 blood exchange for the vampire. You look at Gary Oldwin, he was absolutely 854 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:23,279 impassioned by We're knowna rider whatever her name was, wasn't it. And there 855 01:23:23,359 --> 01:23:31,119 is that link between his passion and it becomes more than it's a spiritual bond. 856 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:40,159 It's not a physical blood suck. It's actually a it's an emotional it's 857 01:23:40,199 --> 01:23:44,960 an emotional bond, an incredibly strong emotional bond. So it's a spiritual wand 858 01:23:45,279 --> 01:23:53,600 so it becomes like, yes, when we hit the Victorian period, we 859 01:23:53,720 --> 01:24:00,159 do become a very romanticized form of vampire. Yeah, very romanticized. And 860 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:05,039 you know when you start going through it, you start learning that that's where 861 01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:13,159 media has an influence on it. But the link is with sex, that 862 01:24:13,279 --> 01:24:19,359 passion, that raw, that instinctual feeling that you get when you're having sex 863 01:24:21,399 --> 01:24:29,119 based desire, yeah, comes into it. Anyway, the American vampire story 864 01:24:29,319 --> 01:24:38,640 actually involves a gentleman called Edwin Brown. Yeah. Basically, this man ends 865 01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:44,359 up with excuse me, tuberculosis, right, So he's struggling to Breathe continually 866 01:24:44,359 --> 01:24:51,439 coughs up blood and he sort of cure in the air and mineral waters of 867 01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:57,039 Colorado Springs. Now, taking the waters was quite a common thing, wasn't 868 01:24:57,039 --> 01:25:03,319 it. Yeah, So basically it was an eighteen month trip and it didn't 869 01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:10,079 heal him, and basically it just left him homesick. Okay, So he 870 01:25:10,199 --> 01:25:15,119 returned to Rhode Island, Exeter, where his father actually tilled the soil as 871 01:25:15,239 --> 01:25:23,600 a farmer, George Brown. So George Daddy had to watch Edwin die. 872 01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:29,279 And basically it was they called it consumption because consumption was tuberculosis. And this 873 01:25:29,359 --> 01:25:33,640 consumption took the life of his wife and his twenty year old daughter as well, 874 01:25:34,319 --> 01:25:41,720 and then his son Edwin. So it's quite sad, really it is. 875 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:50,079 It also took the daughter, Mercy Lena Brown. Now she passed in 876 01:25:50,159 --> 01:26:00,159 eighteen ninety two. Now, the consumption or tuberculosis was the top ula of 877 01:26:00,199 --> 01:26:04,760 its time in the eighteenth and nineteenth century, particularly in New England. It 878 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:10,039 swept really easily between people. It's passed very, very easily. So when 879 01:26:10,079 --> 01:26:13,479 it's tended to hit a family, it tended to hit the entire family. 880 01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:25,720 And so this is the tragedy of this particular disease. However, doctors were 881 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:31,159 unable to explain the wave of sickness washing over the George Brown family. But 882 01:26:31,279 --> 01:26:38,880 they they couldn't understand at that time that this is tuberculosis. This is what 883 01:26:39,039 --> 01:26:43,520 happens. So they go with what's happening, we don't know, we don't 884 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:48,960 understand it, right, But this is all because Edwin came back to his 885 01:26:49,119 --> 01:26:53,000 family. This is why it swept through. So now we understand that, 886 01:26:53,079 --> 01:27:00,760 but they didn't then. Yeah, but they thought it was a corpse basically, 887 01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:06,520 so they turn like, so it's turning to superstition and super the supernatural 888 01:27:08,199 --> 01:27:14,159 basically to try to save to save it. This is two hundred years after 889 01:27:14,199 --> 01:27:18,199 the sale and witch trials. Remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 890 01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:27,199 we see in this country with the Black Death. I think the doctors at 891 01:27:27,239 --> 01:27:31,199 the time turned to flowers and plants. I mean they had the right right 892 01:27:31,279 --> 01:27:38,000 idea, just didn't have a clue. Trial and error, I think. 893 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:44,479 I think a lot of medicine is to be fair. I think I still 894 01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:49,199 do it to be fair. So basically George is like, everyone's dying, 895 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:53,319 so what do I do? And everyone's going, well, you know, 896 01:27:53,399 --> 01:27:57,800 it's saying to do with one of the corpses. So he then goes fine, 897 01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,119 to disprove this, Yes, we're going to open up the plot, 898 01:28:02,279 --> 01:28:08,720 the family plot. This is in Chaesant Hill Cemetery and the seventeenth of March 899 01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:13,239 in eighteen ninety two. Now, they exhumed the bodies of Mary Brown, 900 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,640 Mary Olive Brown, and basically they found bones. They just found their bones 901 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:21,199 inside. Then they looked at Mercy, who had died eight weeks earlier. 902 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:29,640 Now there are deferring accounts on this. As always, it's never as clear 903 01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,680 as that. We're not sure if Mercy's body was already in the ground or 904 01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,880 whether or not it was in a crypt. Because of the timing of the 905 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:42,880 year, they would sometimes put corpses in crypts until the ground was softer to 906 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,199 dig, basically because it was frozen, so they would keep them in a 907 01:28:46,239 --> 01:28:51,960 crypt until it thawed, and then they would actually dig the grave. But 908 01:28:53,039 --> 01:28:56,880 when they lifted the lid off Mercy's coffin, her body was found on her 909 01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,279 side, not her back. Her face was flood and there was blood in 910 01:29:00,319 --> 01:29:10,720 her heart and in her veins. Okay, Dr Metcalf basically had objected to 911 01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:14,960 the entire affair, said no, no, no, no no. So 912 01:29:15,039 --> 01:29:19,119 although there's a lack of decomposition of Mercy's body, but it was actually consistent 913 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:25,199 with the fact that she's only been dead for like less than two months, 914 01:29:26,199 --> 01:29:30,640 but knowing that medicine had been done nothing to save the Browns. Basically, 915 01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:35,239 the superstition was on uproar by now, so they took the presence of the 916 01:29:35,279 --> 01:29:41,760 blood in Mercy's heart as a sign that she was undead. So basically they 917 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:46,079 cut out her heart, her lungs and cremated them. They then returned to 918 01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:54,399 the Brown's house and mixed them with water. The ashes from her heart and 919 01:29:54,479 --> 01:30:01,640 lungs they mixed with water and then basically Edwin Brown drank the coction nice, 920 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:08,079 but this is tuberculosis we're talking about here, so he didn't save him. 921 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:13,640 Two months later he died. What a shock. Excuse me, what I 922 01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:23,720 do? My shock faced? That scary disgusting right. However, this is 923 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:28,600 not the first time that basically burning the organs of the dead mixing them into 924 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:34,239 the ashes for LIXI has been tried, because in basically there was another account 925 01:30:34,279 --> 01:30:40,079 in seventeen ninety nine of a lady called Sarah Tillingast. They suspected her a 926 01:30:40,079 --> 01:30:45,199 bigger vampire. And there's an author called Diana Ross McCain. She reports that 927 01:30:45,239 --> 01:30:53,439 there are eighteen documented instances of basically exclamation of family members in vampire cases suspected 928 01:30:53,560 --> 01:31:00,239 vampire cases in New England between the eighteenth and nineteenth century. Mercy Brown was 929 01:31:00,239 --> 01:31:10,760 actually the last interesting I know fastin. I love this, well, I 930 01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,079 don't. I wouldn't love this if this was actually happening, I'd be like 931 01:31:13,079 --> 01:31:15,960 a u lot bonkers. But there we go. I think, you know, 932 01:31:15,119 --> 01:31:20,119 given that that particular time period and the whole vampire thing was rife anyway, 933 01:31:21,279 --> 01:31:26,000 Yeah, it wouldn't. It wouldn't be hard to jump to that conclusion. 934 01:31:27,399 --> 01:31:31,039 Not really, you know, you're running on superstition and the supernatural. 935 01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:40,439 I suppose it's natural. But for us in England, you know, our 936 01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:49,640 kind of explosion in Gothic vampire stories kind of hits in regards to We did 937 01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:56,199 a show on the Penny Dreadfuls if you remember rightly, and within those there 938 01:31:56,279 --> 01:32:01,119 was a story called Virony the Vampire. It was yea, and that is 939 01:32:01,239 --> 01:32:08,760 basically where a lot of modern day mythology, i e. What a vampire 940 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:14,239 is supposed to be like and having more humanistic characteristics, more like a human 941 01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:20,640 with compassion and empathy and not just a spirit from the youth sucking on your 942 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:25,359 life force. This is where it becomes yes he still sucks your blood, 943 01:32:25,359 --> 01:32:30,119 but he actually has a more moral code. We'll say, yeah, this 944 01:32:30,159 --> 01:32:34,680 is where Vlad Vlad not Lad at all, Sorry, where Varney actually they 945 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:39,680 start introducing a moral code. Now, Varney the Vampire is incredibly interesting. 946 01:32:40,079 --> 01:32:45,479 Go back over to have listened back to the Penny Dreadfuls show that we did, 947 01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:50,800 because we cover Varney quite extensively in there under the Penny Dreadful guys, 948 01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:59,359 because that's where it has to be composer link in the group page. Yeah, 949 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,479 if we can dig that out from somewhere, that would be quite good. 950 01:33:03,119 --> 01:33:05,800 They were dreadful, I mean they were called Penny Dreadfuls. They were 951 01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:11,680 super cheap productions. But a lot of it is to do with that. 952 01:33:12,319 --> 01:33:17,239 So my question to you is, you know, like you've just you referenced 953 01:33:17,239 --> 01:33:23,520 an interview with the Vampire. Obviously most people remember the film before they do 954 01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:29,600 the TV series with Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise in it. That was like 955 01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:35,279 the original interview with the vampire that did captivate, didn't it. It did 956 01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:43,680 say that, Yeah, it's a good film, and it linked in communities 957 01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:53,920 of vampires living alongside relatively modern and how they survived it? Did the parties 958 01:33:57,199 --> 01:34:00,640 O the posh people weren't. I see. Put it this way, if 959 01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:05,399 you've lived that many years as a vampire, you've survived that many years as 960 01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:11,399 a vampire, you you you've got to learn to have money, right, 961 01:34:12,239 --> 01:34:16,000 absolutely? I mean yeah, you would win yard. I would. I'd 962 01:34:16,039 --> 01:34:21,039 collect everything. I'd have a big warehouse and just everything I had, I'd 963 01:34:21,039 --> 01:34:28,000 collect it because in the future it would be worth millions. I've got one 964 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,680 of them. And this is where he gets his del boy persona from. 965 01:34:35,359 --> 01:34:41,319 Well you would, I mean, you know, and you've got like a 966 01:34:41,359 --> 01:34:47,479 brand new Grammar phone in its wrapper, original box. You're not there for 967 01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:54,000 a few quick I had to wait a long time. No, what you 968 01:34:54,079 --> 01:34:57,840 do is you target people that have got a lot of money, make them 969 01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,000 leave it all to you, and then like sucker, but kill them off. 970 01:35:00,239 --> 01:35:04,359 Yeah, you could do that as well, sideline the antique through and 971 01:35:04,359 --> 01:35:09,319 then you invest that money which is going to give you a good return over 972 01:35:09,359 --> 01:35:11,640 the years, and you just go through lifelike that. So you all have 973 01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:15,079 lots of money basically, yeah, because if you're going to live for an 974 01:35:15,079 --> 01:35:19,479 eternity, at least do it in style. Absolutely, first class all the 975 01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:24,520 way. I think you live your life by that anyway, don't you? 976 01:35:25,079 --> 01:35:34,279 Absolutely? Why not? So that's Anne Rice's version was interview with the Vampire 977 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:44,239 Stephanie Meyers. Obviously a massive influence with the Twilight season or series, should 978 01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:48,680 I say, where we have vampires and were wolves living alongside each other, 979 01:35:49,079 --> 01:35:55,439 and they were wolves protecting the grounds and the neighborhood from empires, big bit 980 01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:59,199 war, and then we have Italian coming in there, and we have like 981 01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,520 you with the Voltari and stuff like that. It's a little bit twee for 982 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:14,359 my liking in regards to the gutting romance between Edward and Bella. Ye see, 983 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:20,119 I'm more into the whole vampire feels like Underworld they were good, very 984 01:36:20,159 --> 01:36:28,279 more horror horrific. Is that sexy lady running around in a PVC suit? 985 01:36:30,279 --> 01:36:33,680 Yeah, yeah, she's in it as the sex level on top of it, 986 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:38,520 right, Yeah, But they don't don't go around there in sex with 987 01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:45,920 each other, be twiler that It's just it's just very much like a big 988 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,239 war between them. It's a sexy war between them. It's not sexy warn 989 01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:53,960 each other's faces off and things. So people get a kick out of that 990 01:36:54,800 --> 01:37:01,640 in PVC it's very sado masochist. It's not yeah, it's not what it's 991 01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:08,880 just horror film. Do you remember there was a really old old film called 992 01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:15,239 The Hunger which had Davy Bowie in it, that was about vampires. Okay, 993 01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:23,039 I'm not saying that. Google that one layer Yeah, before his Labyrinth 994 01:37:23,159 --> 01:37:29,600 days. No vampires, it's gonna said nothing to do with vampires in there 995 01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:31,960 at all. But you know that was good. But the first character in 996 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:38,680 there was a little world at the beginning, a little blue world. So 997 01:37:39,079 --> 01:37:45,039 we are sort of like being fed these mythologies through our media now more so 998 01:37:45,079 --> 01:37:47,800 than we ever have done. I mean, Vampire Diaries is obviously a big 999 01:37:48,239 --> 01:37:53,840 teen sickcom, not a sitcom. It's not a sitcom, you know what 1000 01:37:53,840 --> 01:38:01,159 I mean? A teen yeah, yeah, a bit that charmed, but 1001 01:38:01,239 --> 01:38:08,239 on a vampire front in all honesty. So we have these influences coming in 1002 01:38:08,319 --> 01:38:15,399 and as these new kind of media programs like hitters, they bring new mythologies 1003 01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:20,640 in, as in explaining why vampires can't go out in the sun. Lost 1004 01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:25,680 Boys obviously we can't not talk about The Lost Boys because that was a massive 1005 01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:31,079 one as well, best classic ever. Yeah, I didn't enjoy that one, 1006 01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:38,399 and don't invite somebody in you don't know. I think even if you 1007 01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:41,159 do know, if they're hovering outside your window, it's not going to end 1008 01:38:41,199 --> 01:38:44,720 well. I think it's the expression open the door and if they just stand 1009 01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,680 there, lock a lemon, show back in their face. And I think 1010 01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:51,239 that's where that one of the mythologists of having a mirror in your hallway comes 1011 01:38:51,279 --> 01:38:57,279 from as well. Yeah, because they're reflection, are they not? Because 1012 01:38:57,279 --> 01:39:00,359 they did, but they wouldn't because they're a spirit. Any Way, on 1013 01:39:00,399 --> 01:39:03,439 that note, we have actually come to the end of the show. But 1014 01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:09,359 these mythologies, like I say, they're ingrained into us from going right back. 1015 01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:14,000 I mean, we've we talked about the references that were in gilgamersh We 1016 01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:18,239 were talking about it come from Mesopotamia, it's hit Europe. Europe have then 1017 01:39:18,279 --> 01:39:25,520 personified it in the ways that they personified things that spread it hit other areas 1018 01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:30,439 in more medieval earlier centuries. Then we start getting accounts of people that are 1019 01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,000 being put down to vampirism and how they dealt with that, and then how 1020 01:39:33,039 --> 01:39:40,159 it ties into other kind of mythologies like the call baby or call births and 1021 01:39:40,199 --> 01:39:44,039 then we've looked at, you know, how it's spread going across and how 1022 01:39:44,079 --> 01:39:51,600 people were mis understanding physical ailments in regard to vampirism, like tuberculosis in New 1023 01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:59,239 England, and how that again mythology and superstition overtakes. And actually it's that 1024 01:39:59,239 --> 01:40:05,800 that's at plat alongside mythology that brings it into the physical. Are they an 1025 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:10,640 etheric being? I don't know. I've never come across one when I've been 1026 01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:13,960 working on the etherics. But then again, I don't want to be looking 1027 01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,000 for one, and I certainly don't want to become a vampire hunter on the 1028 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:21,159 etherics, thank you very much. But there are not just only the vampires 1029 01:40:21,199 --> 01:40:27,800 that drain you of your blood, the emotional ones as well. There's loads 1030 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:39,359 of emotional vampires out there, Yes, yes, there are. Yeah, 1031 01:40:39,359 --> 01:40:43,840 there are people that come in and you know, we do talk about energy 1032 01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:48,560 vampires. This is where energetic vampires come in. Think about a friend that 1033 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,880 comes around or a person that comes around, and by the time they've gone, 1034 01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:58,000 you're absolutely exhausted. You know, it's because they've taken something from you 1035 01:40:58,399 --> 01:41:03,560 and their energy is exhaust yours. That could just be not necessarily them sucking 1036 01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:10,000 off your energy, as it were. But it could just be your vibration 1037 01:41:10,399 --> 01:41:15,199 is not matching that person's vibration. If you're in grief or in sadness or 1038 01:41:15,199 --> 01:41:20,600 for whatever reason, and you've got a super highly positive person, you're not 1039 01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:25,439 You're going to feel drained after that because you are not any right energy to 1040 01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:30,079 receive that energy. Okay, So I think you have to be very careful 1041 01:41:30,079 --> 01:41:32,960 with those kind of terms. Yeah, so when you just don't stab them 1042 01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:38,920 in the heart of a stake, definitely don't do that. No, that 1043 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:45,439 does not end well for anybody. No, particularly in modern society. No, 1044 01:41:48,039 --> 01:41:56,439 I don't believe vampires are real in the term that we see in the 1045 01:41:56,479 --> 01:42:02,600 media. No. I agree. I think it may be a fetish yep 1046 01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:06,479 for people, but I certainly don't believe that there's real vampires. There is 1047 01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:12,319 a There is a guy on TikTok actually that I've come across because I've recently 1048 01:42:12,359 --> 01:42:18,560 discovered The Joys of TikTok who talks about being a modern day vampire that he 1049 01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:26,239 calls hisself vampire. Didn't talk much sense to me when I was watching his 1050 01:42:26,319 --> 01:42:34,279 live I was thinking, Okay, I'll be he's just very much in the 1051 01:42:34,399 --> 01:42:41,199 media driven stereotype of what vampire is. He's definitely more gothic in look like 1052 01:42:41,319 --> 01:42:45,680 long dark hair, pale face, very merrily Mensen kind of vibe going on 1053 01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:55,359 with him. And again I put that down to fetishish and fetishish fetishism got 1054 01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,720 over there. I put it down to that more than I do. In 1055 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:02,800 actual it's a lifestyle choice. Absolutely, it's what it is. It's a 1056 01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:09,680 lifestyle choice, so you know, it is what it is. Anyway, 1057 01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:11,960 On that note, we've actually come to the end of the show, Paul. 1058 01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,760 Do you enjoy coming back with that little topic. Yeah, it was 1059 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:20,000 really good. We'll have to work on the next installment of the Paranormal Concept 1060 01:43:20,079 --> 01:43:26,960 show. On that note, goodbye everybody, goodbye, Thank you so much. Bybe