WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:15.560 The Ham Radio two point zero Audio podcast Rip. Thank you for downloading and 2 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:19.320 listening to this podcast. So basically what I do is I take all the 3 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:24.960 audio clips out of my videos and upload them to speaker and then from there 4 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:31.399 they're spread out to iTunes and SoundCloud and now Amazon Audible as well. But 5 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:35.079 I want to welcome you and thank you for joining the audio section of this 6 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:40.280 series on Ham Radio. I hope you enjoy it, and I would appreciate 7 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:46.000 you leaving us a comment or review on whatever podcast service you're listening from. 8 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:52.159 Thank you in seventy three. Hope you enjoy it. I just need to 9 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.920 I just need to talk into the microphone louder. I guess see if you 10 00:00:55.960 --> 00:00:59.280 guys hear me. Now, Hey, good evening everyone, Thanks for joining 11 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:03.200 us tonight. Pretty fun stream lined up for you tonight special shout out to 12 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:06.079 the Smoking Ape We're gonna We've had him on the show before, but it's 13 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:11.599 been a while and appreciate him joining us on the stream tonight special shout out 14 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:15.640 to all you folks out there in Green Text YouTube channel members. I saw 15 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.439 him Radio Cresator in there early. Andy was in there pretty early as well. 16 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:23.920 Other Andy AA zero A M. I see you in there, kJ 17 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:27.959 five B y D K I four M r C. Several of you out 18 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:34.680 there. Let's see who else. Cliff Leith, thank you for being a 19 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:38.640 YouTube channel member and supporter, W zero r HP Phillips out there, and 20 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:42.079 several more. There's Don in five s KT him Radio Wilderness with Frank. 21 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:48.599 So appreciate you guys. Appreciate you guys being in here and joining us tonight. 22 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:53.200 Let me see. Let me get over to the correct screen here and 23 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:56.719 I'm gonna show you guys right there where we go. Okay, So I 24 00:01:56.760 --> 00:02:01.799 put some new stuff on the I did this website two days ago. I 25 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:08.039 think I put my long sleeve t shirts and hoodies back up on the website. 26 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:12.120 I usually take those down during the winter, during the summer months, 27 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:15.599 and so I put some back back up because it's getting into winter. It's 28 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:19.800 not cold yet. It's in the sixties in Texas, so that's not cold. 29 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:22.960 I might have worn a lone sleeve shirt a couple of times in the 30 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:24.599 last week or two. I might have done that early in the morning, 31 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:29.800 and then i'd take it off by like lunchtime. But I did restock the 32 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:34.840 ed fong antenna's here. We've got a brand new shipment of roll up jpoles 33 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:38.319 that just arrived on Friday, so updated the website yesterday. I already sold 34 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:43.800 a couple of those, so those are in there ready to go. And 35 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:47.879 then, like I've said the last week or so, gigaparts has a permanent 36 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:55.879 coupon ten percent off of all coacts Mezzi and Plenty coo acts and ABR coacts 37 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:01.960 and all of the ascessories and cutters and connectors and everything that those two companies 38 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:06.639 make on this one page here. If you go to gigaparts dot com, 39 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:10.919 forward slash hr two cables or it's some funky it's in the description. I'll 40 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:15.759 get it for you here in a second. It's in the description and you 41 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:20.199 can go check that out and save ten percent on all coaxial cables. And 42 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.199 as I mentioned, I started mentioning this a couple of weeks ago. We're 43 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:30.560 building up the email list. I've got eighteen thousand ish subscribers now. Thank 44 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:31.599 you to all of you who watched my Friday video. I had a lot 45 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:36.879 of people join the email list after the Friday video. I get people dropping 46 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.240 off the email list, so it's grown, but it hadn't grown as fast 47 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:43.400 as what you might have thought it was because every time one or two people 48 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.439 joined, like every time like four or maybe five people join, one personal 49 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:47.840 drop off. So it kind of goes in ebbs and flows like that. 50 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:51.840 But once we get to twenty thousand subscribers, we are going to give it 51 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:54.879 away a new HF radio on the channel. I haven't decided what that's going 52 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:59.000 to be yet, but we're going to do something, and it's going to 53 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:01.159 be given away to one the twenty thousand subscribers on the email list. That's 54 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:03.800 how we're gonna divvy it up there. So more to come on that later. 55 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:05.680 I suspect it will be a few months before we do that, but 56 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:09.919 I'm looking forward to it should be a fun time. And yeah, I 57 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:13.000 go sign up on the email list ham Radio two dot com forward slash email 58 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:15.839 dash sign up. All right, let's get uh, let's get ape in 59 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.279 here. And I saw Frank just join the chat as well. And let 60 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:24.319 me make sure I'm clicking on the right screen. Yeah, I guess that 61 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:29.199 one right there, And you guys are unmuted. What's going on? Listen? 62 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:32.360 I don't remember Frank being part of the deal. Oh, no, 63 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.639 Mike keyboard. It's uh yeah, yeah. Frank's kind of like one of 64 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:40.959 those things that he's like, you know when you we invite your buddy over 65 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:44.639 and he brings his wife with him, and you're like, yeah, well, 66 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.839 what is that a kimono you're wearing, Frank or is that a it's 67 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:53.279 an awesome over sir? All right? Uh looking good, looking good? 68 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.800 Yeah, I'm kind of like the style. Oh hell you're getting there. 69 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:02.199 I guess it's good. See again, Yeah, I love it. I 70 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:06.800 love it. Yep. Uh don infe n five s KT says, when 71 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:12.480 are the ham radio tube shirts coming after the k Demurdy radio stuff shirts sell 72 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.399 out? Well, those are all print on demand, so they're really never 73 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:19.399 going to sell out. But I think Mike has his own his new logo 74 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:23.360 shirts on his own website. Now I need to check with him and see, 75 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.759 uh what he wants me to do with the old logos. But technically 76 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:29.639 you can still get those. I actually looked on trying to like print a 77 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.439 shirt like this with some logos on it. It's yeah, it's it's hard 78 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:36.279 because because I was I wanted to like the like to be the pattern all 79 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:41.240 of it down, not just one or two of them. I've seen those 80 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:44.639 ones where you can do somebody's face or your dog's face or something like that 81 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:46.079 on the shirt and they print them all over it. You might be able 82 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.240 to do that with your logo. I don't know that's what they want my 83 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:56.680 face back? Yeah, the way they can't see it right right right, 84 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:06.959 Jason, what I'm one away away away? Subscribe? I am going to 85 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:11.399 give away something on my stream. What are you gonna give away? Frank? 86 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.920 Oh? The one thing I did let slip or slide is a K 87 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.399 six a ARK Intenda that I still have, So it's a kid. I 88 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:23.240 am going to give that away. I said I was going to give away 89 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:27.879 live if I hit four thousand before I hit the end button. If I 90 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:34.279 had one of those antennas, I'd give it away too. I don't than 91 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:39.439 you're nine to one right, Hey, the K six A RK inten you 92 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:41.800 know what. Both of those intendas are good, but the K six R 93 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:45.399 K is quite more rare. You can get a car intended pretty much anytime 94 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.120 you want to, and they're that big. Yeah that I don't know. 95 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:51.600 I'm not I'm not saying anything bad or negative about that. Dude. Run 96 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:55.079 we run out of them all the time. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, 97 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:57.959 you guys just were stocking more than Adam does. Yeah. Well we 98 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:01.439 just ordered like five miles of wire and you'd be shocked at how fast that 99 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.560 stuff goes. Oh my goodness. I think Chuck strips it down and sells 100 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:12.879 the copper though. I mean the I I had. I was trying to 101 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:15.959 tune mine before Kyle and I went on our Poto robe. I was going 102 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:19.160 to use that antenna and announce it and I couldn't get my like I would 103 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:23.480 connect it to the to the rig expert and it said please connect it in 104 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:25.920 aneutenna, Like nothing was there. So I took a picture of it and 105 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:27.759 I sent it to Chuck. He's like, oh, you missed a solder 106 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:30.800 spot here. I'm like, okay, yeah, he should. He showed 107 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:32.160 me. He showed me the pick just to get a second opinion on it. 108 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:36.120 Yeah, so we haven't that. I've been tried to. Uh, 109 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:39.879 there it is, Frank. Congrats, Frank, congrats, Frank. That's 110 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:44.759 cool. Four thousand, that's awesome. Yeah, this is amazing. I 111 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.079 uh I, I I soldered that spot on there, but I have not 112 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.160 tried to tune it. Again, yet I need to do that. That's 113 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:56.120 one of those things where you should make it a little uh a little a 114 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:59.040 little dummy load for where that way you can put it on there and just 115 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:01.680 tune it with the rigg. Yeah huh yeah, yeah, that's a good 116 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:03.879 idea. I think I have one. I think I have one actually cool. 117 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:07.319 All right, so we're gonna be looking at I've got I've had this 118 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:13.240 thing plugged in and charging. It's got its own little internal battery. Pull 119 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:18.519 that out of there. This is tiny tiny essay aptly named the Tiny Essay. 120 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.959 In fact, I want to zoom down on that at touch and see 121 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:26.560 if I can get a little bit a little bit better. Yeah, okay, 122 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:31.919 you guys bear with me a second here. Uh let's go yeah, 123 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.440 let's go back here. But I'm going to do this real quick because I 124 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:43.559 just want to get a little bit better view on the actual essay. There. 125 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:46.000 Okay, there we go. So I've got this here, this is 126 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.399 the Tiny Essay it comes from. I mean, you can get up a 127 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.360 lot of places. You can get them on Amazon. I got mine from 128 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.279 RNL Electronics. I've said a bunch of times on the channel check RNL every 129 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:58.960 day. He has daily specials up there. I don't know what the guitar 130 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.559 pick is for ape so's they use it as a stylust, but I don't 131 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.799 like it. I use okay, but these stylist is like these little okay, 132 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.759 I might not have another stylist here with me. My fingers are too 133 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:13.240 fat. But like you could use like a pencil eraser if you got a 134 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:18.039 pencil. I've got a I've got a pen with the stylus on the end 135 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:18.799 of it that I usually use, but I don't think I have it here 136 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.480 right now. How about just dropped it on the ground. How about one 137 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:24.399 of the pens that you know, the electronic stylus. It should work, 138 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.480 right, You could drive that over there real quick, frank, right right. 139 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:33.759 And it comes with these two these two cables here with SMA mails on 140 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.440 both ends. And then it comes with this little antenna thing here that's I 141 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.480 guess kind of neat. I don't know what that's. If you you can 142 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:43.080 put that antenna on there, and then that way you can use the sniffer 143 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:48.039 around for RFI and stuff. It'll like a detector. Then yeah, and 144 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.000 like kee with the next version, the Ultra, it has a headphone Jack 145 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:54.559 on there, so you can actually use the antenna and then listen to radio 146 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:56.279 stations and stuff like that on there. It's kind of crazy. Oh okay, 147 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:00.960 yeah, it hurts, it is. That's the case. It is 148 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:05.919 everything that's going into the to the SMA connector, right, okay, okay, 149 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.759 oh yeah, h mun till it hurts. Yeah, okay. So 150 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:13.559 we got this, We got this ten attenuator off of and this is off 151 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.720 of Amazon as well, and we're gonna put that on one side and put 152 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.960 put the radio on the other side. So I grabbed and I can go 153 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.120 grab a couple more radios. I've got a couple more over there, but 154 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.720 I grabbed the tried and true fang. This is actually that. This is 155 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.639 actually a UV five R three. This is the Triban version, has two 156 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:35.159 twenty on it, and I have my FT sixty five here. So we've 157 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:37.799 got a we've got a cheap radio and a and a cheap Japanese radio. 158 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:43.039 So that might be something good there, but we need to do some setup 159 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.799 on it. Eight tells me. So, yeah, hey, you're showing 160 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:48.399 that, yea, su U. I love ya, Sue. I think 161 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:54.480 they're fantastic radios. But yes, I was talking to a reasonably good person 162 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.200 with credibility, and he told me they're made by any tone, and uh, 163 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.399 he would know, so I was I was a little surprised by that. 164 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:07.240 I think that I don't okay. So the box when I got this 165 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:11.840 radio, this FT sixty five, the box clearly said and made in China, 166 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.919 and I thought, that's weird. It's a Yesu radio. It's made 167 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.360 in China. About I don't know. Six eight months after that, something 168 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:20.200 like that, I had John on the show. We were talking about probably 169 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:26.679 the ftd X ten when it was new, or maybe the FT two hundred, 170 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.840 one of those, one of a new radio. We were talking about 171 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:33.080 a new radio, and he said, recently, Yazu moved everything back to 172 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:37.919 Japan. So if you if you bought an FT sixty five from whatever date 173 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.080 that was forward, it would say made in Japan on it. I don't 174 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:46.440 know, I've heard that before, and I don't know if that's true anymore. 175 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:48.200 At one point in time, I think that was true. I don't 176 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.159 know if the newer stuff is still made by any tone. But well, 177 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:54.639 I knew that there were some that were made in China, and it bounced 178 00:11:54.679 --> 00:12:00.399 back and forth. But here's the thing that hole made in that That could 179 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.279 just be the radio gets built somewhere and then the sticker gets put on in 180 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:07.480 the in the final country. So that's right or international law on that's a 181 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:09.960 little little sketch, it is it is. And yeah, the whole made 182 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:13.120 in the USA thing. I was talking to Battleborn Batteries at an overlanding show 183 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:18.279 last year and they said, well, they can't put made in the USA 184 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:24.039 because several of their parts inside of the battery are sourced from Indonesia, China, 185 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:26.519 whatnot. So they put assembled in the USA on their on their batteries 186 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:31.120 and these are battle Born or some of the best highest price batteries you can 187 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:35.759 find out there. And but they were they said that they were starting to 188 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.159 build a factory. This was like a year and a half ago. They 189 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:41.600 were starting they were going to build a factory inside the USA to start making 190 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:43.879 these cells that you could only source from China, so that they could actually 191 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.360 put the maid in the USA. But there's some stringent laws around that. 192 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:50.200 But what John told me about the whole maid in China with the FT sixty 193 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:52.320 five, He's like, it depends on where in the in the assembly line. 194 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:56.679 It goes. So if the last place it was assembled, you've made 195 00:12:56.679 --> 00:12:58.159 all the parts in Japan, you send China, got as symbled in China. 196 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.360 They put made in China in the box. So yeah, I don't 197 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:05.480 know. It's it's six one half does the other? I think? So, 198 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.159 yeah, I could care less because the any Tone radios are fantastic. 199 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:13.840 So that's where they are. Yes, some of my favorite Chinese radios are 200 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:18.879 the any Tone and the walk Zone radios or however you want to say that 201 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:22.200 today. But yeah, I mean agree. If it saves me fifty bucks 202 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.840 on a sixty five, then right I have added, Yeah, totally totally. 203 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:31.039 All right, let's see. Okay, there's some setup we gotta do 204 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.440 here. I'm gonna put my glasses on so I can actually see what I'm 205 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:35.440 doing, So tell me where, tell me what to do on here? 206 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:37.440 All right? The first thing you want to do is you want to take 207 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.440 one of those SMA cables that you had, and then you want to connect 208 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.919 it to the two ports. The port on the top is called the high 209 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.960 port. The portal on the bottom is called the low port. And that's 210 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:52.279 because they send and receive signals at different frequencies, right, right, and 211 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:54.720 I guess one's higher on the device than the other. I don't know. 212 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.879 Yeah, I mean it kind of makes sense that the high port is high 213 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.279 poort the high port. But you know, well what the that O, 214 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.399 V and a's like. You'll see them called port one in port two or 215 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:07.679 channel zero and channel one and S one and S S one one and S 216 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:09.960 two one. It's the labeling on these things is all over the map. 217 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:16.279 That's Chinese ingenuity for you. But okay, done, Now you gotta you 218 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:20.600 want to connect them together with the you can use one, just use one 219 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:22.120 to connect both of them, or you can connect them together with that little 220 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:26.559 barrel. Dow hiccus, oh to the uh for is this for the is 221 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:28.600 this for like the calibration? Yeah, so the first thing we're gonna do 222 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.840 is run a self test on it, and it should pass the self test, 223 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:35.080 no problem. Then after that we run a calibration and you don't have 224 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:39.120 to do that every time you run it. Right, Yeah, this is 225 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.240 brand new out of the box. I actually had this thing for a while, 226 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:46.080 but I've never used it. So, Bob, there we go. 227 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:50.159 What's bob? Which way? Hamah? What's up? Dud? Okay? 228 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:54.320 All right, we're connected, all right. And then if you hit the 229 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:56.159 menu, so if you tap anywhere on it, you should get the you 230 00:14:56.159 --> 00:15:01.639 should get the menu, yep. And and then you want to go to 231 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:11.279 config and then under that you'll see self test. Okay, oops, come 232 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:18.080 on, Yeah, that little job button is super super sensitive. It is 233 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:22.840 Okay, it's doing something. I can see they're passing. Yeah, yeah, 234 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:26.320 it's yeah. Test one pass pass past. So when you got this 235 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:30.360 one, it was before they started getting cloned all over the place. And 236 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:35.399 rn L is uh is a good a good supplier for Nanovna's and tiny essays. 237 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.080 But one of the things is that the clones will actually pass all the 238 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:43.440 self tests until you update the firmware with legitimate firmware. Then they'll start failing 239 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:46.440 on them. So if anybody out there updates the firmware and they start failing, 240 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.399 you probably got a fake. Yeah, okay, good to know, 241 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:52.279 Good to know. Okay, No, I can't see what that says at 242 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:58.279 the bottom, but touch touch screen to continue, all right. All right, 243 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.679 So the next thing we want to do is we want to do the 244 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:04.080 calibration, and so then you want to go back to config and then under 245 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:15.159 there you should see something that says level cow level cow. Oh come on, 246 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:22.840 oh yeah, there it is, okay, and so what that's what 247 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.879 I can't see? What that I can't read that It says calibrate, reset, 248 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:29.279 calibration or back. You want to go to calibrate? Yeah, it's 249 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.120 the first option. Yeah. And then if you if it ever acts, 250 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.519 goofy. What I'll do is I'll reset the calibration and then and then run 251 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:38.799 the self test then do the exact same stuff again. Okay. And so 252 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:44.480 what's happening now is that that higher port is ejecting a signal and the low 253 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:47.840 port's picking it up and it's going to be off. And so what it's 254 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:52.879 doing now is adjusting itself to the signal. At the top it says calibration 255 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:56.559 complete at the bottom. There you go, man, okay, So what 256 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.960 you what you want to do now is you want to unscrew the cable from 257 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:06.480 the top port. You're good to go there, okay, M Frank you 258 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:10.000 watching the chat? Yes, sir? I am one comment real fast? 259 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:15.559 Can you increase your audio level? Me? Yes? Or you or you're 260 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.200 working on it? You're moving away from the mic? Yeah, I move 261 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.079 away from the mic when I need to uh well, hold on, yeah, 262 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:22.720 I can do that. Hold up. Okay, that should be a 263 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.079 little bit better. Should be a little bit better right there. But yeah, 264 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:30.599 I was. I had changed some stuff for the for Kyle's livestream the 265 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:32.799 other night, so I was, I thought I put it back pretty close 266 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:34.920 to where it was. They want me to put miss blaining glasses on. 267 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:44.880 So right, okay, all right, good, all right, so hit 268 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:51.200 the menu and then just back out of that. There you're good, You're 269 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.039 good. Okay, all right, So what we want to do now is 270 00:17:53.039 --> 00:18:00.400 we want to hook up the attenuator and so the s M a male side, 271 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.880 so that's the one that there you go, That is the ind So 272 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:10.759 that's the one you want facing the radio, gotcha? Okay, So goes 273 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:11.920 on the high side. No, no, no, you're gonna get to 274 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.519 the cable going into the low. We're done with the high port for right 275 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:21.240 now. So Joe Brett, what's up, Jim. Joe Brett was having 276 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:23.119 a heck of a time with one of his showing like he was running the 277 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.880 thing and you could see the harmonics, but the labeling wasn't right on the 278 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:30.599 values, and so we troubleshot that thing. Forever, and I'd said, 279 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.599 just send it to me and we'll test it out and see if we can 280 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:38.400 figure it out. And then too started having the exact same problem and working 281 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:44.720 on with to it turned out that they're forty dB attenuators are bad. Really, 282 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.640 yeah, So these things can be sensitive if you send a power the 283 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:51.759 wrong direction. Some attenuators are fine by direction only some of them aren't. 284 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:55.279 And the other one is is that if you put too much juice through these 285 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:57.319 for too long, you might get a little bit of a of a problem 286 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:00.599 there. So I did a video on how to test your anator if anybody 287 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:03.880 out there is not saying it. So like when yeah, when we pushed 288 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:10.640 five watts into the tiny essay, it should read about negative. It should 289 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:15.160 it should read about thirty seven dBm. So gbm is is a decibel in 290 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:21.200 reference to a millible, And so that's the that's the metrics that we typically 291 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:22.920 use. Now I'll show you how you can actually test watts on this thing 292 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:27.319 too, which is pretty nice. By around thirty seven is where you want 293 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:30.880 it to be for five watts, and there's just reading like like three or 294 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:33.799 four watts or three or four dBm. It's like nah, borrow, that 295 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:38.000 ain't right? And then and then so now you you want to just supposed 296 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.000 to be thirty seven, it was three to four. Yeah. Wow, 297 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:45.000 that's like that's way off. Yeah. Yeah. So now you want to 298 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:51.599 hook the attenuator into your radio? Okay? Uh, you want to do 299 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:52.880 the fang first? Do you want to do the sure? Man? We 300 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:56.839 do the fang first. And then when you power the radio up, you 301 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:00.599 want to set it to I always set it to one for six five two, 302 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.640 just because it's a super common frequency. Did I miss it? Or 303 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:11.119 did we also tune it or or calibrate it with the attenuator in line? 304 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:17.440 Is the Now you don't want you don't want to do that. So it's 305 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:19.240 not like a tiny essay. I mean, I'm sorry. It's not like 306 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:23.839 a nano V and A. It's not like yeah, okay, all right, 307 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:26.839 good, So there we go right there. Now, turn that baby 308 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:37.680 on and set it for one four six five two. No, I think 309 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:44.480 I didn't hear the bellfang lady. Did you hear the bell? Fang lady? 310 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:48.920 Frank has it turned off? I probably do? Have it turned off? 311 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:55.119 There it is, and then just check your power level on that. 312 00:20:55.119 --> 00:21:02.720 So we know what we're working with. We're on high all right, we 313 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:06.960 went on high. Yeah it's fine, yeah, okay, assuming that the 314 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.440 tenuators crat yeah yeah sure. Video. I don't know if this is one 315 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:15.359 of those wish dot com one hundred and fifty white bowel things. What happens 316 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:21.880 to a tenuary, Well, it's going to get past that. So what 317 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:23.160 we what we want to do is a lot of folks like you can you 318 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:29.480 can keep up right now and you'll see uh the you'll see the fundamental frequency 319 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:33.079 and you also see some other stuff on there. I can tell you right 320 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:37.400 now that doesn't look good. And but so go ahead and on key it. 321 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:38.160 And so what I what I like to do is it actually has a 322 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:44.960 feature built in specifically for measuring harmonics. So activate your menu M and then 323 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:53.319 go to measure what's up vern six okay, measure and then under that you 324 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:59.359 should have harmonic yes, and so it's going to ask you for a frequency 325 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:03.160 once you pick harm on uh huh, and then type in one four six, 326 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:08.759 dot five to two and then hit the M for megahertz. So a 327 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:11.759 lot of people just hit times one and that'll give you one hundred and forty 328 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:18.440 six hurts and so like people aren't I can't see my signal. Yeah, 329 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:21.440 I may have fallen victim of that once or twice. Yeah, yeah, 330 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:26.319 sure, yeah, yeah, verds in their verds in their uh chat up, 331 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:30.319 go ahead, he's yeah, he's uh. There would be no foul 332 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:34.559 language on this stream. Vern there is no foul language and no foul language. 333 00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:40.279 The ranger is gonna win tonight. Let's go astros. Yeah, no 334 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:42.160 foul lane, no foul language on the stream, buddy, You drive a 335 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:47.559 forward you should know better than that. Yeah, So go back to the 336 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:52.599 main top menu, okay. And then there should be something called level in 337 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:56.240 there. Yes, and then so go to level and then you want to 338 00:22:56.279 --> 00:23:00.400 pick external game. Yep, that's at zero right now. Yep, So 339 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.599 h hit external gain and then you want to type in negative. Its real 340 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:11.559 important to do that negative. So four zero and then times one times one. 341 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.839 Okay, okay. So what that did is it just adjusted or accounted 342 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.880 for the forty dB attenuator. So we should be good there for this guy. 343 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:23.640 Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, and then so again at the 344 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:30.400 top, at the top menu you want to go into there is something called 345 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:34.480 display display. Yes, yep, you know what and don't go into display. 346 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:38.519 Did give me one second? Give me one second, that's fine, 347 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:42.119 I'll go back. I didn't change anything, so we're good. Yeah, 348 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:47.519 there's a there's a there's a I just realized there was a glare on the 349 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:49.880 screen. Sorry, guys, somebody should have said something. If somebody said 350 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:52.119 something in Chad about the glare on the screen, then Frank missed it, 351 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:57.000 so I didn't see it. Okay. Oh, they're all talking about baseball 352 00:23:57.039 --> 00:24:00.440 in there. I honestly, I honestly don't don't care. But I know 353 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:04.240 I'm supposed to be a Rangers fan, but I really don't care. I'll 354 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:11.240 be I don't care about I grew up a Ranger fan. But yeah, 355 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:14.720 give me one second here, I can't go ahead. For the love of 356 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:17.680 God, I can't remember where the thing is that we want to Okay, 357 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:25.359 no worries. That was interesting that we told the the Nano s NA. 358 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:30.319 I'm sorry I said that wrong with DNA, that we had the attentator on 359 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:36.599 it. So how does that take account? Because I'm surprised by that because 360 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:40.480 we'll see the vaultas coming in from well it's supposed to be going to the 361 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:45.160 antenna, but what does it need to account for that? So what will 362 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:48.240 happen is is the attenuator reduces the power. In this case, it reduces 363 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:52.839 the power coming out of the radio by forty dB. So that's what you're 364 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.359 going to see inside the tiny SA. So when you get a reading, 365 00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.440 what you could do is you could just add forty d b to that. 366 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.440 But we don't like math. So what we do is we set for that. 367 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:06.920 It's very very wise, very wise words there. Yeah, but that 368 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.519 changed the frequency though, that should have change the frequency. No, no, 369 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:12.880 no, it's just the power levels. Yeah, it's like an attenuator 370 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:17.759 on your it's like a ten waiter on the receiver on your a chef radio. 371 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:19.880 It's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. So if you go to top 372 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:26.319 menu display, there should be an option for draw line, draw line, 373 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:33.279 Yes there is, so pick that, okay, and then hit negative sixteen 374 00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:40.519 point oh two. Okay, where are you getting that number? I'll tell 375 00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:44.920 you one second and hit the times one times one. Okay. So when 376 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.759 we operate a radio that is twenty five watts of power, there's a blue 377 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:51.680 line right there that's probably not visible in the camera. Well maybe no it 378 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:52.839 is. Yeah, we can we can say, it's exactly what you want. 379 00:25:53.200 --> 00:26:00.359 Good. So, for radios operating twenty five watts or less in the 380 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.519 frequencies that we're going to be testing today, your any spurry submissions need to 381 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:07.000 be forty dB below the fundamental So the fundamentals of one on one, four 382 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:11.119 sixty five two, all the rest of the spikes have to be forty dB 383 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:18.559 down. Now they also need to be below twenty five its microwatts twenty five 384 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.960 microwats. So twenty five microwats is negative sixteen point two dBm. So we 385 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:26.920 draw that line there so we can see that if it's above the line, 386 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.440 but it's still forty dB down, we know that the radio is still failed. 387 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.759 And so that's something that is an important step because it's the second piece 388 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:40.200 of that law. Almost everybody only tests for negative forty dB because when they 389 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.279 see twenty five microwats, everybody's like, well, what the F is that? 390 00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:45.720 Yeah, I mean I remember the first time being like, eh, 391 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:49.039 f it you know, yeah, yep, yep. So you want to 392 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:52.519 make sure you do that, all right, So when we key up, 393 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:55.680 now, any spurrious emissions that you're going to see on there are going to 394 00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:56.839 be in a data table, and it's going to tell you. It's going 395 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.400 to give you a delta marker, and a delta is the difference between your 396 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.839 primary signal when we typed in one, four, six, five two, 397 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.880 and so it's gonna tell you how many how many cycles away it is, 398 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:11.440 and it's going to tell you the reference in terms of decibel. So got 399 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.519 up, son, gotcha, Okay, here we go. Now just hold 400 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.799 it in for a couple of seconds because it's gonna take it's it's sorting itself 401 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:22.920 out of Yeah, it's it's definitely moving. Yeah, So because it has 402 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.359 like an internal attenuation that it'll apply and stuff like that. So at the 403 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:30.119 top of that, your marker number one should say one four six five to 404 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:34.720 two or close to it, and then it should give you a value in 405 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:38.559 the yellow text at the top. Oh the yellow text. Okay, one 406 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:42.839 four six dot five at thirty four dot zero d M. All right, 407 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.920 So thirty four dot zero is a little bit less than what we expect, 408 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:49.079 but balfangs never put out what they advertise, correct. And then what does 409 00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:53.200 the marker for marker number two say? It says one five also at negative 410 00:27:53.240 --> 00:28:00.279 fourteen dot four dbc, So dbc means in comparison, So that means it's 411 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.720 only a fourteen DV below the fundamental, which is a huge fail. Now 412 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:07.240 with the Tiny Essay, you can only see up to three hundred and fifty 413 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.119 mega hurts, so you're not going to see third, fourth, and fifth 414 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.960 harmonics. But I guarantee that they don't pass you, right, Yeah, 415 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:17.920 okay, okay, So what we can do is we can reconfigure it and 416 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:21.119 feed the signal into the top high port to see anything above three hundred and 417 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:26.279 fifty megahertsky, but we don't need to, so they that that second harmonic 418 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.920 that we saw there, it's above the blue bar and it's now forty d 419 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:34.039 be down. No illegal, put it in the trash, right, Yes, 420 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:37.799 I got a real real fang test. That's I wanted to do that. 421 00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:41.240 I was always wanted to do that. I can tell you that's why 422 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:45.200 I bought the Tiny Essay, and when I got it, right, I 423 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.880 was intimidated by the thing. I didn't even take it out of the packaging 424 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:49.359 for like six months because I was like, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna 425 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:53.880 break it, right. Yeah, it's yeah, they seem like they're rather 426 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:59.119 fragile. This is a in my opinion, this is a shack testing tool. 427 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:00.480 I wouldn't take. I would put this in the backpack and go hiking 428 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.079 with it. But they are neat for what they do. Yeah. Well, 429 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.119 the thing is they're super duper sensitive and so like you can have them 430 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.880 like when you're doing tests, sometimes you'll see spikes and spurs moving around from 431 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:17.119 like coaxle cable or from category five cable or anything like that. Right, 432 00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:23.039 So activate the menu and then go under a unit. We have a question 433 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:30.440 here, go ahead. Is the total power out? Uh? Maybe you 434 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.559 can bring that up? It is, I see it. So he's asking 435 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.640 a total power output? Is it an aggregate of the fundamental plus all harmonic 436 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:40.680 spurs? If so, the total output of five watts is the fundamental plus 437 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:44.200 the sum up spurs. Yes. So the thing is is that when you 438 00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:48.759 use like if you were measuring power and you see all of us do it, 439 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.720 I do it everybody. I think Jason doesn't use disease to test the 440 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:57.720 power output of a radio. Any frequencies that will fit through the the port 441 00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.960 on this thing, I can't. I can't, but any frequencies that will 442 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:06.119 fit through here. It is an aggregate of any spurious emissions on those frequencies, 443 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.079 right, because it just so the way these work is is that they 444 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.640 just detect voltage that's coming through. These don't really work on frequency, so 445 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.759 it just takes the voltage and then passes it along and then it gives you 446 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.519 the It doesn't it'll do a conversion for the voltage to the yeah, to 447 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:25.279 the meter. Yeah. So under there you should have something that says watts 448 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.799 I don't have I don't have a unit and the top menu, go to 449 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:33.440 level and then go to unit level okay, level a unit okay, yeah, 450 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.240 and then you should have wat in there. What yes, So go 451 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:40.519 ahead and pick that and it's going to look crazy, so you can't even 452 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.079 see you're lying on that right now. But go ahead and key up and 453 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:47.680 then you should be able to see the marker table and it should tell you 454 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:51.920 what the primaries at. It's going to take a second to calm itself down. 455 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:53.759 Yeah. Yeah. In the yellow text at the top again, yeah, 456 00:30:53.920 --> 00:31:00.799 okay, so what is it saying for the for the the first one 457 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:08.599 says five at two point kind of moving around two point five, I mean 458 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.079 one two point five to two watts. Yeah, So that means on that 459 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:17.039 frequency, you're getting about two point five watts out, which is always people 460 00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:19.319 are like, what now you can see like how far apart those peaks are 461 00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:23.640 there? Yes, because watts is a linear scale, dBm is a logarithmic 462 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:29.880 scale, which is a lot easier for us to deal with when we're talking 463 00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.039 about two different measurements that are so far apart, right, especially for displaying 464 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.759 it on there, so you can you can un key it. But that's 465 00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:40.680 how you can check watts at a particular frequency, at a specific frequency. 466 00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:41.920 Yeah, that's good, that's good. Yeah, And so if you like 467 00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.480 I use the tiny sa ultra because I think it goes up to like five 468 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.279 five gig gig hurts. Yeah, I can actually see how strong my harmonics 469 00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.359 are all the way up. So like I might have a radio that's doing 470 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.880 three watts on my primary, which is fine, but then I might have 471 00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:59.759 a secondary that's doing like watt and a half, right, and so you 472 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.240 had to think about hey, one and a half, it's going to get 473 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.519 out, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, a 474 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.960 lot of your two twenty radios only do a what and a half? So 475 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.359 well, if they're a triband radio, they might only do a what and 476 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:13.640 a half. Yeah, it works, it can work, so we can 477 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.119 we can just take unhook the fang and then hook up the the yaesu if 478 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:22.319 you want without we'll have to change We'll change the levels back to what we 479 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.440 have for dBm. While you're doing that, I had a question here. 480 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:31.039 This is my question. You said the device is limited in these the rains 481 00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:36.039 as scanning. Is that just the display or it's able to scan more? 482 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.920 And so I think that this the tiny essay, and I've got two of 483 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:46.359 them sitting here, so to me, I'm all fancy double fifty those essays. 484 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:51.079 Yeah, so the low port goes from zero hurts to three hundred and 485 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:54.200 fifty megahurts, and then the top workers from three hundred and fifty megahurts to 486 00:32:54.519 --> 00:33:00.079 nine hundred mega hurts. The way that tiny essay ultra works, which is 487 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.440 which is this one and this one? You can you can set it to 488 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.039 go all the way up to five, but it uses harmonics itself in order 489 00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.759 to get some of these higher frequencies. So I mean, if you really 490 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.359 testing super high frequencies, I mean, this is fun for dicking around, 491 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.680 but it's not really the best device for that, but for amature radio stuff 492 00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.160 it's fine. Now people were like, well, what if I'm operating into 493 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:23.880 five giga hurts band And I tell them, I say, son, if 494 00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:27.319 you're operating in that band, I know what that equipment costs. You can 495 00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:31.759 afford a real spectrum analyzer. That's a good point. Bill's asking how many 496 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:37.599 watts out at the spur harmonic and it was about one point five that last 497 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:42.400 test we did where it was two point five at one six star dot five, 498 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.920 it was reading two point five one two point five to two watts at 499 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.839 the spur. It was about one point five that so if you tested that 500 00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.559 on what you're a power sw R meter, it's probably going to tell you 501 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.839 four watts out right right, exactly right, And then you're like, hot, 502 00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:58.480 damn son, I'm getting four watch that's right, right, yeah, 503 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.319 A look at me, boy, Well he's spur decreased as he gets farther 504 00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:07.240 away from the main the main transmitting frequency. Yeah, they should they should. 505 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:09.480 Okay, well there shouldn't be spurs there at all, it should it? 506 00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:14.840 No, but I agree, yeah, but yes, okay, yeah, 507 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.719 but Jim had radio and he keyed it up. Yeah, thing had 508 00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.239 like a whole mess of spurs that were like practically flat all the way across. 509 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:24.760 I never laughed so hard. I was like, man, dude, 510 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.800 I was like, that thing is crazy. And so I told him, 511 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:30.920 I said, grab another radio and see. And he all the frequencies he 512 00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.840 was tuned into. He could hear himself plain as day. Oh wow. 513 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.079 Oh he tuned his another radio to the to the spur frequency. Yeah that's 514 00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:43.480 funny. Yeah, yeah, that's that's good. That's good. Okay, 515 00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:45.480 we got the yas hooked up. So go back to the top menu and 516 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:49.159 you want to go into the level then unit and then change it back to 517 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.679 dBm and make sure of the radio is on one four six five two. 518 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.760 I just realized this radio is dead. I thought it was turned off. 519 00:34:55.079 --> 00:35:00.199 Oh damn, welcome to my lafe. Yeah, you'll never You'll never find 520 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:01.440 the cradle for it. That's the problem that I've got. Oh gosh, 521 00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:07.480 I know. Yeah, let me grab something else I've got. I've got 522 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.800 a couple of radios over there. I do want to grab either a yazoo 523 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:17.840 or a icon. Yes it is, but it's inside. That would be 524 00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:21.960 fun though. Yeah, let me grab something else real quick, and you 525 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.960 guys you guys can have the floor for a second, Ronald, I was 526 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.440 gonna say this question for a little bit later. But have you hooked up 527 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.360 your tiny sa to a computer using the USB? A small program should be 528 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.360 able to do it. Yep, I do it all the time. So 529 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.199 he obviously isn't a subscriber to my channel, so shame on him. If 530 00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.400 we could ban him, that would be fantastic. But yeah, it's called 531 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.440 I use tiny sa app. There's a couple of other apps that folks have 532 00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.320 used, because I think tiny sa app is open source. So what I 533 00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.360 would say is is that try that. I do it all the time just 534 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.320 because it's easier to display, like when I'm making videos and stuff like that. 535 00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:06.639 But if I was just testing stuff, you know, or on the 536 00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.079 shack or whatever, I generally don't use the use it. What is the 537 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:15.679 max number of watts it's going to be able to handle safely? Well, 538 00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:17.199 it's not. It's not many, So I think you can only feed in 539 00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.320 about six DV into it, which is super duper low. And like that's 540 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:27.719 you're you're you're you're talking milla watts at that even low low milla wats at 541 00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.199 that level. So that's why we put an attenuator in line, and then 542 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:35.519 we compensate for the attenuator like we did in the demonstration. So if I 543 00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:39.159 had to, I see the math now, Okay, yeah, I mean 544 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:45.320 I've pushed two hundred wats into these things before through I call it my big 545 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:50.719 ass attenuator. So like I've got this, yeah, and I'll use this 546 00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.280 or I'll use something like it's not opened up, so I can't show you 547 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:58.599 the guts I built it. This is an RF sampler that I built. 548 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:04.000 And what this allowed me to does get a negative thirty seven YB signal off 549 00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:07.079 of here. I just feed antenna in and then hook this to a dummy 550 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.360 load and I can use something like this. That's pretty cool. That was 551 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.280 super easy to build. I got I got a video showing how to do 552 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:19.360 it. Last question, we'll ask you what is the difference between a tiny 553 00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:25.840 essay and a nano VNA. So a tiny essay is a little bit different, 554 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.719 and so like the way I describe it is is that if I'm measuring 555 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.280 like devices, so like say you build a bandpass filter or something like that, 556 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:38.039 and I want to see how that filter behaves, I'll use the nano 557 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:43.440 V and a to to test that because it has an outport and an import, 558 00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.199 so I can take a known signal from the out feed it through the 559 00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:52.400 filter and then measure it on the import. It also can do reflection measurements, 560 00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.880 so I can measure things like SWR and stuff with a tiny Essay that 561 00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:00.920 I cannot measure with the with the I'm sorry, I can measure with the 562 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.800 Nanovna, not the tiny Essa. So when I want to look at signals, 563 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.679 I'll use the Tinyessa and that allows me to look at signals and particular 564 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:12.280 frequencies. And there's a ton of stuff, and we'll do some more tests 565 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.119 with here because we've still got We still got about another forty minutes or so, 566 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.719 and we'll take a look. The tiny SA does does a lot of 567 00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:20.960 stuff. Now. One of the things that tiny Essay doesn't have is called 568 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:25.119 a tracking generator. So your higher end spectrum analyzers will have a tracking generator 569 00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:31.199 and that does an output signal that is in its synchronized to the sweep that 570 00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.599 is taking taking place, and you can feed that through like things like filters 571 00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:42.360 and stuff. But the TINYESA also works as a signal generator. So we'll 572 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:46.320 do a quick test with that too. Okay, Okay, I have my 573 00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:52.960 I got my FT five. Cool, we're gonna and we're on one five 574 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.039 now you wanted me as something else on the Yeah, So go back into 575 00:38:55.159 --> 00:39:00.639 the main menu and then go to level I think it was low yeah, 576 00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:04.679 level yep, and then unit should be under there yep. And then switch 577 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.440 that back to dBm dBm yeah that's where it was originally. Okay, we 578 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.880 got the blue line back now, nice, So just just go ahead and 579 00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:16.880 keep that baby. Yeah. Right now you're you're seeing some stuff in there, 580 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:21.840 but that's generally because of mixing and the tiny SA and it should drop 581 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.639 down it. Yeah, the spur on the top there is dropping down. 582 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:34.159 So we've got on the left hand reading is one forty six top five thirty 583 00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:38.559 four point four dBm okay, and the the second one is one forty six 584 00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:45.440 top five at a negative fifty four point four dbc. So that means it's 585 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:47.440 it passes right, So it's below the blue line and the blues more than 586 00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:52.440 forty dB below. Yeah. I wonder if we're getting some additional attenuation because 587 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:57.280 of the coaxle cables or anything. Yeah, I did. Yeah, since 588 00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:02.719 the the because there's an SMA port on on the the sm on the attenuator 589 00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:06.320 and the radio are the same. So and I didn't have another barrel connector 590 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.199 with me right now, So that'd be an interesting test to see to switch 591 00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:13.000 them out and see how that how different they might be. Yeah, so 592 00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.400 you can you can use your nanobna to test that, Yeah, to test 593 00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.639 the stenuation, because like you would think that, hey, this is only 594 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.800 like eight inches of freaking coax, how much can it attenuate? But you'd 595 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.960 be surprised, you'd be, Yeah, especially if it's especially if somebody didn't 596 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.719 solder it correctly and maybe there's a loose connection in there or something with that 597 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:36.320 SMA connector with the coax itself, something stupid. Yeah, and you you 598 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:40.920 can rest assured that those coaxial cables are not labor right, right, totally 599 00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.760 totally. Yeah, No, I'm with you on that. Yeah, what's 600 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:49.119 all right? So we're uh oh uh side boom in the house. Yeah, 601 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:53.480 so yeah, okay, so we're obviously the yazoo is much yeah, 602 00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:59.760 negative fifty four. And you said if it's under negative forty that passes. 603 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:01.800 That's the uh and that's the reason we got the negative. The forty dB 604 00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:07.719 Yeah, attenuator that we're testing with. Yeah, so you're your two markers 605 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:09.440 set one hundred and forty six point five mega hurts. The reason the second 606 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.519 one says that is because it's saying it's one hundred and forty six point five 607 00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:17.280 away from the fundamental And so that's exactly what a harmonic is. It's a 608 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:22.159 doubling of correct. Yeah, yeah, correct, yeah. Yeah. It's 609 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:27.239 like people will call me up and say eight all my markers said, both 610 00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.119 my markers say one four six five, and I was like, don't worry 611 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:32.159 about it, you're good. Yeah, yeah, it's a hard yeah, 612 00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:36.239 And that's uh, that's a lot of the times why you can, uh, 613 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:40.159 that's the reason a forty meter in a half wave in fed or or 614 00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:45.440 center fed, whichever forty meter hfontenna is as a harmonic of fifteen meters. 615 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:47.920 That's why to work on fifteen meters a lot of times. Yeah, what's 616 00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:51.719 a harmon It's a harmonic of twenty So like, yes, what it is. 617 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:57.320 Yeah, and all the handbands are harmonically related by design, right because 618 00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.320 of this kind of stuff. Yeah, if you think about forty meters seven 619 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.679 megahurts, well, then seven times two is fourteen that's twenty meters. Seven 620 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.239 times three is twenty one, that's fifteen meters, and seven times four is 621 00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.519 twenty eight that's ten meters. So there you go. Man An n fed 622 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:15.800 halfwave cut for forty meters will often be resonant on those four bands, and 623 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.000 there's a reason for that. Yeah, on ten meters it's because ten so 624 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.159 porky, right, it's yeah, So like sometimes you get a little goofiness 625 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:23.760 there well and sometimes you know, and it kind of depends. You know. 626 00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:27.760 You got to realize also that that the hand bands are not exactly the 627 00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:31.320 same in every country around the world, so it's not it's not like seven 628 00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:36.719 point twenty five y five megahurts is exact harmonic of whatever on the twenty meter 629 00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:38.159 bands, so it could kind of vary a little bit in there, but 630 00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:45.039 it's close enough where you can you can actually get a really good four band 631 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.920 antenna with using no tuner if you have a like the Pac TENA. The 632 00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.280 Pac ten is fantastic on those four bands. Now, I tuned up the 633 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:57.239 Sparkplug Gear one hundred wide a intenna and it was beautiful on forty twenty and 634 00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:00.400 fifteen, but on ten, it was a little high on the bottom technician 635 00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:04.599 portion of the band twenty eight three to twenty eight dot five it was around 636 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.840 two to one instead of like one point four to one. Like the not 637 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:09.239 a big deal, Not a big deal. You hit your tuner on your 638 00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:12.960 FTD extend, you're good, or you just run with it two to one, 639 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.079 which would probably fine. You go a little higher on the band and 640 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:16.880 the and the SWR comes down a little bit. Yeah. So with those 641 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:22.079 with those infed half waves, when the lower I'm sorry, the higher frequencies 642 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.159 that you're using, the more inductive the antenna looks correct. And so that's 643 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:30.119 why a lot of them add a capacitor. And I'm pretty sure this spark 644 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:31.239 plug's got a capacitor in there. I don't know, one hundred percent, 645 00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:35.880 I think so. But one of the things that happens with the induction is 646 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:39.880 that your voltage will start to lead your current. So when by adding the 647 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:44.000 capacity and so it kind of it kind of marries them back up. Yeah. 648 00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:45.920 So, like everybody kind of blanket says that you should use one hundred 649 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.800 peak afaired capacitor on those antennas. Some people have better luck with eighty. 650 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.760 Some people use one twenties. So I guess if you really want to get 651 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:58.480 in the guts of tune in the antenna, I use one hundred. I 652 00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.039 use a hundred peak affair on hundred per go fair. Yeah, yeah, 653 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:07.239 good good. And then but somebody had a question in here W six I 654 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:09.679 WN and let me see if I can find it. He was saying, 655 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.039 or throw a talk pot on there, toss a talk pot on there. 656 00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:16.559 I saw that. Yeah, so I've used to Yeah, talk pot It's 657 00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:21.519 the worst. It's the worst radio that I've ever used in my life. 658 00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:24.760 And like the thing, here's what's crazy about it. Like I feed the 659 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:29.360 signals of radios into my soilloscope so I can look at the carrier and make 660 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.719 sure that is the way forth correct. And it was detecting the frequency at 661 00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:36.440 like two hundred and fifty six megahurts when the radio was supposed to be one 662 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:38.840 hundred and forty six. Had a balfang say that it was it was like 663 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.880 one hundred and fifty eight. Its supposed to one four to six. And 664 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.320 I was just like, man, you know, but the talk pod was. 665 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:50.039 The guy won't even my last two emails to him, he won't even 666 00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:53.440 respond to the emails. He's like, uh, oh, this guy knows 667 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:58.119 what he's talking about. Deleet I get. I get fired all the time 668 00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:00.960 from Oh people sent a radio to me and I'll test it, and you 669 00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:02.800 know, I was telling my part. I was like, hey, whatever 670 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:05.760 it test, I'm going to show it. And they're like, yeah, 671 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:07.880 no, no, we're confident in the product. And then all of a 672 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.039 sudden they're like, what the f why didn't you tell us. Sometimes I'll 673 00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:13.079 tell them and they're like, show it. You can show it anyway. 674 00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.840 But yeah, with with the with the talk pod. The reason I didn't 675 00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:21.800 feel bad about, you know, being as brutally honest as I was about 676 00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.800 the performance of the radio is the radio that I got came with an instruction 677 00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:28.840 manual for different radio and then I asked other people who got them, and 678 00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.840 they got the wrong radio as well. Also, mine has a sticker on 679 00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:34.960 it that says it's for HAM, but when I got it, it was 680 00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.239 set up for gm RS. So I don't know if I had the right 681 00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.880 radio or not. And the other one is that I believe there was some 682 00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:45.119 chicanery with the FCCI that they were originally putting on there. Oh no, 683 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.119 that never that never happens. Yeah. Well, I'm like, hey, 684 00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:51.280 if you're gonna screw hands over, then I've got no problem, right, 685 00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:54.679 you know, just showing just how fantastic your radio is. So I saw 686 00:45:54.800 --> 00:46:01.639 t O and and Hayden and Josh and a couple of the guys did a 687 00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:07.239 huh oh yeah no no no no, no, no no no. I 688 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.960 saw the talk pod videos from these guys, and I'm like, and they're 689 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:13.239 all like, yeah, talkpod sent me this talk pod and I'm like, 690 00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.360 hmm, oh, my feelings are hurt. Talkpod didn't send me one. 691 00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.920 So I went and got on Amazon and I bought my own. I'm like, 692 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.320 okay, now I can really talk about it the way I want to. 693 00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:24.039 And then I checked my spam filter like two days later, and talk 694 00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:28.480 pod did send me an email for me, but it was much spam filter. 695 00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:30.480 So I'm like, well, I already bought one. Now I don't 696 00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:32.320 need it, thanks anyway, And I did the same time. I'm like, 697 00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:36.280 my god, this thing is terrible. Oh my goodness. And I 698 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.159 didn't I didn't post the video, but I wouldn't have felt bad post in 699 00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.679 the video because I actually bought it on Amazon. I paid for it. 700 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:44.679 I'm like, you know what, this is my honest opinion. Here you 701 00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:47.159 go. Well, the thing is is like they had been reaching out to 702 00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:51.519 me for a long time, and I just kept ignoring the emails. And 703 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:53.079 because because the thing is is that I was like, I don't want to 704 00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:57.760 review a radio that sucks because I don't want to go and I know it's 705 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:01.599 going to suck. And it was exact same way with the h E with 706 00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:06.599 the T I D radio, Like I that guy will he so he went 707 00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.480 from asking me to test their radios before they market them now so he won't 708 00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:14.159 respond to my emails anymore because I kept finding all these problems. He sent 709 00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:15.519 me like three of these. They sent me the original one, and they 710 00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:20.000 send me the updated version, and this is like two point zero. Yeah, 711 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:21.960 I don't know. I mean, hey, man, at least they're 712 00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.239 trying. At least they're trying. You know. It's like that that walks 713 00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:28.039 on four bander that came out a while back, had a couple of spurious 714 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.119 problems with the first version. They were real quick to come back, come 715 00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:34.599 back and update that and and and fix several of the problems with it. 716 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.639 So I can't I can't fault them for that. At least they're trying. 717 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.440 That's well. I think they had some some chicanery with the FCC. Well 718 00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.159 well, and so so we got to a point he was like, hey, 719 00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.039 we want to start sending you our radios before we sell in the test. 720 00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.480 Yeah, and I was like yeah. I was like that's that. 721 00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:53.199 That's fine, and he goes, but can you take down the videos that 722 00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:58.079 you put up? And I said no, I can't. I said, 723 00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.280 well, I'll tell you what, give me the serial numbers are the ones 724 00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:04.719 that you know have bad hardware, not firmware, but bad hardware. And 725 00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:06.440 they were like, we can't do that. And then I was like, 726 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.360 well, then I'm not taking the videos, you know, because the thing 727 00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:12.280 is that we would do a video and just say hey, if you have 728 00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.639 these this one, then you've got one that gets hot, that makes goofy 729 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:20.800 noise and transmits the noise and all that other stuff. So yeah, yeah, 730 00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.280 yeah, well yeah, and apparently you know what, you would order 731 00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:28.440 some of those on Amazon and they would some of them were gmrs only, 732 00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.159 some of them were ham only and mine was full open mine is and I 733 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:34.599 didn't and like I said, and I even said this in the I made 734 00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.320 a video that I never posted. I said this, and I was like, 735 00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:38.880 look, talk pod, they don't know who I am. I order 736 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:44.519 this on Amazon. I just went out there, regular account, ordered it, 737 00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.639 got it in. This thing is full open transmit and it has a 738 00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:51.639 freaking FCCA sticker on it. So you know something's not right there. I'm 739 00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:52.960 not saying I agree with it or don't agree with it. I'm just saying 740 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:57.679 that's very sus that's all. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah, 741 00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:01.639 I'm totally right there with you. Yeah, yeah, Chris Bricker, what's 742 00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:05.159 up, Chris? He say, ask if there's differences between the tiny SA 743 00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:07.800 and a tiny say Ultra that would push you to use the Ultra. The 744 00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.559 Ultra is bigger, so it's got a four inch screen versus a two point 745 00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:13.599 eight. Yeah, and you're like, oh, what's only an ancient So 746 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:17.800 it's huge different. It makes a big difference because my Nano VNA is is 747 00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:21.599 the four inch screen and it is much bigger than this. This this thing 748 00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.119 is hard to see. If you've got t O calls him old man eyes, 749 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:27.599 and I think I agree with that. So if you got if you 750 00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.599 got to put this on to see this. Then the four inch screen makes 751 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.280 a big difference. So I don't know if it's worth twice as much money. 752 00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.360 It is because you also get the much larger frequency on screen so you 753 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.280 can see. Okay, so I would say, go ahead, go ahead 754 00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:45.960 and uh and do that. Let's get back to we're going to do another 755 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:49.800 test. Okay, let's do something else then, good, we do. 756 00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.800 So what we want to do is we want to switch the cables around so 757 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:57.400 that the output of the tiny essay is going into So just like where you're 758 00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.320 connected to the radio and a tiny essay switched that yep, switch that one 759 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.519 with the one going into YEP, not on the tiny SA with the one 760 00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:09.079 going on the radio. Okay, so switch those switch. Okay, you 761 00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:13.559 take it off that radio nowhere, now unscrew the one on the tiny essa. 762 00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:16.480 Okay. And then you want to do it the other way. Yes, 763 00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.920 I thought you weren't supposed to do that. Well, we're going to 764 00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:22.159 do something different now. We're going to test the front end of the Okay, 765 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:32.920 all right, so we're going to go backwards we are. Then while 766 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:36.199 you're doing that, I'm gonna just pull up my dbach art just to make 767 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:39.800 sure I get this right. We're safe because the attenuator anyway. But yeah, 768 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:42.559 yeah, no, we're good. Yeah, just don't blow up my 769 00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.800 FT five will be I'll be happy, okay, all right? So an 770 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:52.880 S nine signal is negative seventy three dBm on HS sounds right, it sounds 771 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:58.280 right. It's negative ninety four on UHF and VHF because they hear better, 772 00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:02.119 I guess, so they say in SN signal is actually much weaker in UHF 773 00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:06.039 and VHF. So what we want to do is we want to hit the 774 00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.719 top menu and then at the bottom of that, let me just flip mine 775 00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:14.840 one second. Make sure I do this right. There's something called mode mode. 776 00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:16.079 Yes, so you want to pick that, and then you should have 777 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:22.199 something that says low out. Uh It says switch to high end, switch 778 00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:25.519 to low out. Yeah, so you want to switch to low out. 779 00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:30.639 Switch to low out, okay, and then whatever it says the bottom you 780 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:35.039 can So what does that say there? It says low output is off. 781 00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:37.320 Yep, leave it off for right now. Frequency is ten mega hurtz. 782 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.440 So click on the frequency and set it for one, four, six, 783 00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:49.199 five to two. What is keen? That is the antenuator directional mic is 784 00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:53.639 asking they are not all of them are, but these these are. Yeah, 785 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:57.679 this one has markings on it like it is. Okay, the level 786 00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:02.679 is negative seven dot o dB. What does it say on there? Negative 787 00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:07.440 seven dot ODBM. Yeah. What we're gonna do is that down to the 788 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.119 bottom you have something says external gain. Yes, it's at zero, so 789 00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.159 you want to hit that, and then you want to set it to negative 790 00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:16.960 forty negative forty like we did before. So now we're accounting for the attenuator 791 00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:22.000 negative forty times one, right, yep, and that should change your level 792 00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:23.760 from whatever it was. It should attack forty on there. So probably now 793 00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:27.760 says negative forty seven, right, correct, Yes, that's right, that's 794 00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.079 right. So there's a it says set right in the middle of that level. 795 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:36.559 Hit that set set. Yeah, and then you want to do negative 796 00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:40.719 a start with negative one twenty five, okay, and then hit the times 797 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:47.079 one and then okay, where did the one twenty five number come from? 798 00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:51.239 So that you just put my chart here? I got I can't remember, 799 00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:52.719 you got you got some you got some chart that that told you that. 800 00:52:53.079 --> 00:53:00.519 Yes, so negative one twenty five is just below an S four signal. 801 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:06.239 Okay, So that's about where radios can hear. Sometimes they get a little 802 00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:08.519 bit lower than that. Okay, Now you have something says mod that's short 803 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:13.840 short for modulation. You want to hit that. I don't have a mod 804 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:15.599 yes, Maddy says none. Yeah, so you want to hit that, 805 00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:22.440 and then you want to just pick narrow FM narrow. Uh, there's an 806 00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:24.920 FM three kills seventy five kill hurts. I assume it's the three Yeah, 807 00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:30.119 picked the three killer hurts. Okay, and then it should say down there, 808 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:34.599 go back in there. And they also have a frequency set. Yes, 809 00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.239 it's it a thousand hurts right now? Okay, perfect, perfect, 810 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:39.599 that's what you want. Yeah. Mine says five thousand for some reason, 811 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:44.480 but it doesn't matter. Okay. Yeah. Now when we when we when 812 00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.679 we turn this on, we're going to be setting an S four signal from 813 00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:51.079 the tiny SA into your ya see radio. So go ahead, hit it 814 00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.400 on. So where it says off, just hit the off and then I'll 815 00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:59.719 turn yep. Hear that yep. So, so what you're hearing there is 816 00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:06.119 a one killer hurts or a thousand HURTZ modulated tone on top of a sinus 817 00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.719 soidal carrier. So you can hear how it's cutting in and out a little 818 00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:13.639 bit. Now, it's no, it's it's not cut. That's probably zoom 819 00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:15.159 to Okay, it's not. It's solid here, it's not cutting in it 820 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.840 out at all. All right, So under that level on the left hand 821 00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:24.320 side, it'll say minus ten dB yes, really small. Yes, So 822 00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:28.119 click where it says minus ten and so that should drop it down to negative 823 00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:38.400 one thirty five. That doesn't seem to do anything. It's it's that negative 824 00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:45.079 one sixteen right now. That doesn't seem to change it. Well, make 825 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.239 sure you're clicking right on where it says the negative ten. So you might 826 00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:51.519 need to use the pointy thing. Yeah, let me get the thing. 827 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:55.079 Where'd that go? Oh? Here it is? Okay? Does it have 828 00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:58.719 to be on when I do that? It can be a one or off, 829 00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:08.000 It don't matter. That doesn't seem to change anything, all right, 830 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:13.840 Well, then just hit set again and then type in one thirty five one 831 00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:19.400 thirty five. Uh negative. Make sure you do negative one thirty five, 832 00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:25.920 negative one thirty five yeah, negative one thirty five times one yeah. Yeah, 833 00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:28.880 see it only goes to one sixteen. I'm pretty sure that's what I 834 00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:31.679 put last time. It only goes to one sixteen. Ah, you're right, 835 00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:36.239 it's the tiniest a ultra goes lower than that. Ah okay, yeah, 836 00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:38.440 this one doesn't go down that low. Then all right, well there 837 00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:44.679 whoever was asking, there's another reason for you. Yeah yeah, yeah, 838 00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.639 yeah yeah, more more versatility on the on the ultra. Okay, good, 839 00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.960 good to know. Yeah, but that's one way that you can test 840 00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:54.400 that. And then like what I did is on my seven O five, 841 00:55:54.519 --> 00:56:00.239 my icon I CE seven O five, I fet a negative seventy five four 842 00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:02.519 GBM signal into that to test my S meter to see if my S meter 843 00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:07.519 was accurate. And so most of these radio manufacturers will calibrate S nine, 844 00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:13.320 they don't calibrate the six d B delta between each one is what it's supposed 845 00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.320 to be. And I'm not calling any radio manufacturers out because I don't want 846 00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:19.599 to shoot me, but you would be you would be surprised at how many 847 00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:23.119 radios start to like all S four's aren't created equal. I'll just leave it 848 00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.920 at that, right, yeah, right. You know, when I when 849 00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:30.719 I give signal reports on POE and whatnot, I it's all subjective, it's 850 00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:32.239 all like it's all like, hey man, your signals booming, I don't 851 00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:36.000 really care what the meter says. You're getting an S nine and if your 852 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:38.400 signals in the noise, I don't care if even if you're even if you 853 00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:42.039 are moving the needle, if your signals in the noise, you're you're getting 854 00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.800 a five to two or a four to four or something like that. So, 855 00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:49.039 yes, so we we've given signal reports as hams since before people had 856 00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:52.599 S meters on. Oh yeah, yes, it's supposed to be how you're 857 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:55.880 hearing their particular signal, right, not exactly what the S meter says. 858 00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:59.199 But a lot of people are like, well, you're you're pegging my S 859 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.159 meter, which is which just fine to know, but there's so many different 860 00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:06.719 things that that. But if you have an S nine noise floor and I'm 861 00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:08.760 pegging your meter, I don't I don't find that too impressive, you know, 862 00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:12.119 right, Well, the thing is is that you can adjust your RF 863 00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.320 gain. That's true, that's true, right, And so yeah, a 864 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:17.199 lot of people leave that wide open. I never do that because I like 865 00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:22.440 to have it. I'd like to be able to hear and when I'm older, 866 00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:23.239 you know, said, I don't want to hear all that static and 867 00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:28.960 stuff, so I usually keep in mind at around the twelve o'clock. Yeah, 868 00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:31.719 okay, So what were we trying to test here? Well, I 869 00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:35.320 was going to see how low of a signal that we could hear into that 870 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:39.440 radio, because if you compare the oh, okay, the yasu to the 871 00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:44.559 bellfang. Yeah, it's a significant difference. The Yasu can hear much much 872 00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:49.239 lower than the bellfang. Again, ah okay, so what's the lowest you've 873 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.400 heard on a balfang? Then I think around one thirty nine probably, so 874 00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:58.840 that's really grainy. And then I've gotten like one forty negative one on the 875 00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:04.280 yasu, which is another which is another S unit. Yeah. Then another 876 00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:07.760 thing that you can do is you can adjust. You can put that signal 877 00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.960 like twenty five kilo hurts away, which is one channel actually it's it's it 878 00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:14.880 would be the carrier of another channel. And if you could still hear that, 879 00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:16.840 then you know that your adjacent channel rejection is no good on the radio. 880 00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:22.039 You can test all that with the tiny essay Ultra. The tiny essay, 881 00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:23.320 I guess doesn't it's not. It doesn't get it go to low one. 882 00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:27.199 So that's a good I mean, if if if the bow fang will 883 00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:30.239 hear better than this tiny essay lower than this tiny essay will go. That's 884 00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:34.119 a reason to me, that's a reason in and of itself to choose the 885 00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:37.519 Ultra. So yeah, so I did a video where I was using two 886 00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:42.159 tiny essays to inject two signals into the bowfang, and you would hear it 887 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.400 go dead. Look, it would just completely go dead because it couldn't. 888 00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:50.679 It couldn't make the distinction between the two because of the direct conversion receiver that's 889 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:53.360 built into the bowfang as opposed to superheads that are in the in the right 890 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:59.519 right. Yeah, huh. How far down will this will this tinyessa go? 891 00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:02.199 Like? Is it? Is it good for testing chef radios? Sure 892 00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:07.719 is. If you want to grab one, we can do it. I'd 893 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:14.199 recommend a QRP given the attenuation sop labs. When you're getting that Jason's asking 894 00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:17.440 several times in the chat's that's Jim, I know, I know, A 895 00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:22.559 can you explain how to use two or more attenuators to tap down a strong 896 00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:30.000 signal? Yeah? So these are both ten WAT attenuators. So I don't 897 00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:34.000 really do it with this with these, but I'll take this as one hundred 898 00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:37.280 WAD attenuator. So if I was testing the signal on my seventy three hundred 899 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:39.360 at one hundred watts, I would put this one on here, and that 900 00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:44.039 would bring my signal down to zero dBm. But because tiny essays are so 901 00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:46.960 sensitive, you really want a lower signal coming in and just adjust for when 902 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:52.559 we adjust the external gain. This goes near your radio, don't mess that 903 00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:54.880 up. This goes near the tiny essay. And then you would just connect 904 00:59:54.880 --> 01:00:00.039 these two together and then you would add so like this is a thirty this 905 01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:02.679 one this is a ten dB attenuator, and this one is a forty. 906 01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:06.800 So if I add these together and now they've got fifty dB of attenuation. 907 01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:12.280 Hm, why does the order matter where one gets closer to? Well, 908 01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:15.519 because one can. This big one can handle one hundred watts. This little 909 01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:21.000 one can only handle ten. So if I attenuate one hundred watts by forty 910 01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:24.719 dB, then I can hook this one up and continue to attenuating. If 911 01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:28.360 I switch them around and I push on hundred watch of this, I'm gonna 912 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:32.760 I'm gonna smoke the innards. Okay, I'm gonna have to wait on this. 913 01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:37.159 So I've got my original FX for C here. This is nice FX 914 01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.800 four C, not the CR that's the new one. It has a B 915 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.880 and C connector on it. But I do not have a B and C 916 01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:51.760 male two SMA connector. I have a B and C female to sme. 917 01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:54.400 See if you can put the barrel connector in place, and see if you 918 01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:59.079 can do it that way. Let's see. You need to get a big 919 01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:02.039 box of all the different nectar type chase I've got. I've got Kyle's tackle 920 01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:06.920 box down here. Man, this thing is awesome, but I don't have 921 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.760 that. I've never had a need for that type of connector, so obviously 922 01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:15.960 I need to upgrade my game. So can radio outlets just up the street? 923 01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:19.840 Yeah, that's the same. Yeah, that would be terrible. If 924 01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:22.440 I had one close by, I'd probably be there all the time. I 925 01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:27.119 work less than five minutes from that place it is. I'm actually going to 926 01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:30.599 be in Dallas in about two weeks. What but I'm landing at like two 927 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:35.159 in the afternoon, and then I've got to go to a meeting at four, 928 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:37.400 and then i have to go to a dinner, and then I have 929 01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:42.360 to fly out at like eight o'clock the next morning. Oh, that's no 930 01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.000 good. You should stay longer next time. Well, you know that's I 931 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:49.280 should have enagled something where I was doing that. But yeah, I have 932 01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.519 a feeling I'll be down in Dallas a lot in the future. You got 933 01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.239 time for another question or are you about ready to go? Jason, I 934 01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:59.199 am not. No, I don't have I'm not sure I've got the right 935 01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:04.639 connections here, all right, So liberty Cave, how do you test FRS 936 01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:12.039 radios with no ability to put them on a dummy load? Well you can. 937 01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.079 You can question if you have an attenuator, and then you can feed 938 01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:19.239 the attenuator into your tiny essay. Then you can test them that way. 939 01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:25.320 Now, the rules for gmrs and FRS are overly complicated. They're way more 940 01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:31.159 complex than they are for HAM radios. So I don't test them because things 941 01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:36.039 like you have to have a certain percentage of power within a certain frequency away, 942 01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:38.159 and then it just keeps cascading like if you read it. I'm just 943 01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:40.800 like, I'm not smart enough to figure that formula out. So so with 944 01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:46.000 an FRS radio to be legal, it doesn't have a removable antenna, I 945 01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:51.000 think what he's asking, No, no, no, oh, how oh, 946 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:52.679 so most of the time you can't. You can't unscrew the antenna. 947 01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:55.039 So most of the time, if you take a look at it an HT 948 01:02:55.679 --> 01:03:00.880 and you look at the antenna, they'll be a little teeny tiny n set 949 01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:04.440 pin in there that would Yeah, So if you remove that set pin, 950 01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:07.960 then you can you can go ahead and unscrew it. That's true. That's 951 01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:10.000 one way to do it. Another way to do it is you can crack 952 01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:15.320 it open and then soider onto the antenna port and uh, you know you 953 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:16.679 have you have to have steady hands to do that. It's just it's just 954 01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:21.480 an FRS radio. It doesn't matter, right, No, I don't have 955 01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:23.760 the right connectors. But this will be a test that I performed next time, 956 01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:27.480 so if I might get you back on the show. Yeah, man, 957 01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:29.800 we can do that. Maybe we'll do it. I was gonna, 958 01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:31.400 I was, hey, this is the battery that I built last night, 959 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:34.800 guys. I got the shrink wrap and everything, so I was gonna plug 960 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:37.480 this into my FX for radio. I was gonna show you that it worked. 961 01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:39.679 A double test there, that's right, yeah, double test. But 962 01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:45.000 now I don't have a I would need a I would need an s M, 963 01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:52.159 A female too be and C male and I don't have that. Yeah, 964 01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:55.519 Josh is saying you could use the antenna for the tiny essay to look 965 01:03:55.559 --> 01:04:00.519 at the output. I don't know what the room say for frs and gmrs, 966 01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:04.800 but for amateur radio, you have to measure at the antenna output. 967 01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:09.719 So even if you measure through twenty five feet of coax, it's not a 968 01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:15.800 legitimate test because they want they went to the envelope at the at the antenna 969 01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:23.239 output. Yeah, yep, good, well that is Hey, this was 970 01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:26.559 fun. I enjoy uh. I enjoyed every part of this. So how 971 01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:30.760 do I get back to the main menu on this thing? They should have 972 01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:34.079 a backup option. There's not a breath escape all these steps and understand what 973 01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:38.960 just happens. Switch to low. I can rewatch my own video. So 974 01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:42.239 you know, there's there's always that. There's this thing called YouTube where everything 975 01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:45.360 is recorded. The easiest way to get it back is to turn it off 976 01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:47.320 and turn it now. Actually, if if I went back into it and 977 01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:49.840 I sweach, I said switch back to low, and it came back to 978 01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:54.320 the main screen. Oh okay, gotcha. So yeah, because you were 979 01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:58.639 switching it to high. We have a burning question here, and I think 980 01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:02.239 it's very topical for the topic. Once I get one, I say it. 981 01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:08.000 Once I get one, now I remember run up. What I'll say. 982 01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:10.679 What I'll say to Frank is that I may or may not be in 983 01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:15.840 your log book. Ape is in my log book. Every time I see 984 01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:17.599 him on FT eight, I hit him up. I was like, hey, 985 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:21.960 I can work it out there right now for Clarence Clarence. Yeah, 986 01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:28.480 yeah, served for Clarence. Have you worked me? I don't think so. 987 01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:31.920 I think you said once. We actually might have. We may we 988 01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:34.519 may have. I'd have to go back and check. I don't. I 989 01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:41.639 actually have no idea. Yeah, that's funny. Well good, this was 990 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:45.119 This was exactly what I wanted to do tonight. So thank you Ape Man 991 01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:48.280 for the time and anytime. So it's going to be if you want to 992 01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:50.719 get those connectors and we can uh yeah, yeah, we can do that. 993 01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:54.360 We'll get In fact, I've got a couple of q RP raiders. 994 01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:57.320 I just got the the mountaintop of the new four mt R four B n 995 01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:00.880 oh did you Yeah? And I don't know. It's weird because I always 996 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:03.119 tell people I hate QRP. But then I was talking to some of the 997 01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:04.639 other day, and I was like, well, yeah, but I own 998 01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:10.599 one of every radio. Yeah, I've got even with QRP radios. So 999 01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:14.039 I must really hate QRP. I don't know, but I like making fun 1000 01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:18.559 of QRP, mostly because the people who do it. But it's it's not 1001 01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:21.719 so much radios like that four C that you have there. Like I was 1002 01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:25.960 almost going to get the four CR, but I'm like, I just don't 1003 01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:29.119 need another QRP radio. Yeah, I tell you what, that four CR. 1004 01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:31.719 I actually think I like the forour C a little bit better than the 1005 01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:36.119 four CR dud. Well, yeah, because the four C is ten watts. 1006 01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:40.760 I've done ten watts on sideband and ten wats on FT eight. The 1007 01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:44.400 four CR advertises twenty watts, but it only does like five to seven wats 1008 01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:46.559 on FT eight. It does twenty wats on sideband. I can't remember what 1009 01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:49.480 I think it does like five to seven wants on CW as well. But 1010 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:54.119 so I was like, well, a little QRP radio like that, I 1011 01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:57.599 might me my own personal preference. I would I would do FT eight with 1012 01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:00.880 it more than anything. So I was a little bit disappointed that it did 1013 01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.519 that. It did less power than its predecessor. On FT eight, just 1014 01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:09.039 just saying qrps for heroes. Now, I admire the skill of somebody who 1015 01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:12.800 can make a lot of good QRP contacts. But my problem is is that 1016 01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:16.400 they're like the vegans of ham radio because they have to tell everybody. Yeah, 1017 01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:20.880 they never shut up about QRP. Oh you know what I mean. 1018 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:25.360 Like, I don't worry about all that. I beout the mobile guys driving 1019 01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:28.320 down the road. Come on now, announce it. You're not paying attention. 1020 01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:30.960 Hey. I love the mobile guys because they worked me on Poda. 1021 01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:32.800 Every time I hear a mobile station on Poda, I'm like, hey, 1022 01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:35.239 there was a mobile station, come on back. I like the I had 1023 01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:41.239 a QRP station and last activation was like one of the loudest stations I've heard. 1024 01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:43.960 I was like, I don't know what you're doing, but I've oh 1025 01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:45.960 I've had QRP. Yeah, I've had QRP stations that came in there. 1026 01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:48.599 I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, you sound good. Well. 1027 01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:53.960 These mobile guys, especially ones doing CW and stuff like that. People are 1028 01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.760 like, when these guys been doing CW for fifty five years, they are 1029 01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:00.519 so damn good. They dream in CW. Yeah, I'm like, I 1030 01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:02.679 don't know about doing that while driving. You know what I'm saying, Like 1031 01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:05.400 I can, well, yeah, I can barely eat my sandwich, drink 1032 01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:10.480 my drink and drive. I would never be able to at CW into the 1033 01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:14.119 day. I gave up trying to eat tacos and driving. It's just a 1034 01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:17.760 mess on the shirt. Larry says. Here, I'm about to stop, 1035 01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:25.199 uh doing poto with my ninety wat in a wire ain't ain't And I cannot 1036 01:08:25.319 --> 01:08:31.119 come compete honting with the station running six hundred to one point five watts. 1037 01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:40.399 Okay, yeah, I believe you. I understand hunting with the low power 1038 01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:45.359 because that that's tricky. But if you're you're it doesn't matter how many watts 1039 01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:48.760 you're running activating. Everyone wants to talk to you, So it doesn't matter 1040 01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:51.560 how many wats. You know what. QRP has its place and q r 1041 01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:57.840 O has its place. In my opinion, QRP is great if you're if 1042 01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:00.399 you've got a small pack and you're sitting on top of the mountain, it's 1043 01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.039 wonderful. Out here in the flat lands, it ain't so great. Well, 1044 01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:05.680 if you can't haul the equipment around and all that kind of stuff, 1045 01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:08.880 then you know you're gonna have a little bit of a problem. The other 1046 01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:13.319 thing is is that QRP people are so what they do when they try to 1047 01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:17.119 get you to join their team is is they talk about decibels as opposed to 1048 01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:19.720 watts, right, because they're like, right, oh, it's just a 1049 01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:23.199 few dB per s units. So I mean, come on, now, 1050 01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:26.560 if you get an antenna that has this much game, but if you look 1051 01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:30.079 at it linearly as opposed to logarithmic, you start to see and we saw 1052 01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:32.159 today when we did the test when we looked at watts versus the dB right. 1053 01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:35.880 Yes, to me, I think that that is just a little bit 1054 01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:39.920 of like where people like, just think about how healthy you're colon will be 1055 01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:43.680 if you go vegan. You know what I mean. It's the same thing. 1056 01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:46.079 It's the same premise where it's like, well, I don't know if 1057 01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:51.800 that's really a legit conversation. That's not yeah, yeah, yeah, I 1058 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:55.399 hate to tell you, but we were born to be meat eaters, right, 1059 01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:00.680 That's that's just how we were made. Some people have legit yet medical 1060 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.800 medical conditions, Fine, there's nothing wrong with that. Some people are legit 1061 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:08.600 allergic to peanut butter. I don't think i'd still be alive if I was 1062 01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:11.199 allergic to peanut butter. Right, So if you were allergic to RS, 1063 01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:15.680 then you should operate QRP, right, exactly. Yeah, So Bill's asking 1064 01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:20.680 here, what is the limits of spur emissions to pass negative forty sixty? 1065 01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:25.680 So it depends on the frequency and the power levels. But yes, on 1066 01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:30.359 uhfu that we were that we were I'm sorry on VHF what we were testing. 1067 01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:34.359 It's forty dB down from the fundamental if you're operating less than twenty five 1068 01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:41.760 watts. So there's numbers change depending upon which frequencies you're using and power level 1069 01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:49.439 power cool, Okay, this was medical conditions. Now in the chat, 1070 01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:54.359 I know we just eighty meters now, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're 1071 01:10:54.399 --> 01:11:00.319 all on eighty meters now. That's funny. So Ape, when's your your 1072 01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:02.319 next Hallmark movie night? Is it? Is it on Fridays? Well, 1073 01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:08.600 it's supposed to be Saturday or Sunday nights, okay, And then it depends 1074 01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:12.760 it depends on which, Like the Hallmark Movie channel is all man hating stuff, 1075 01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:15.479 yes, it is, you know, like everyone is like the man 1076 01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:17.439 gambles too much or he drinks too much, or he's got a girlfriend and 1077 01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:20.479 then you know, and then a lot of times the wife ends up killing 1078 01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:24.760 him and and everybody's like, oh, I just love the way that Nancy 1079 01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:28.920 was able to get rid of her husband. I don't. I don't like 1080 01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:31.439 this kind of stuff, Like I don't. I prefer y'all not watch it. 1081 01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:39.640 You know, So I'm not well. The reason I ask is our 1082 01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:43.359 next half hour is next Friday. So I love it. I would love 1083 01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:45.880 it if you would come back to the Happy Hour Friday. Yeah, let 1084 01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:47.560 me. I was about to say, what did I miss here? Yeah? 1085 01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:50.239 Let me? Let me? Uh, Because every time I invite ape 1086 01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:55.399 to the channel for some some YouTubers get together we have he's like, well, 1087 01:11:55.399 --> 01:12:00.399 that's Wholemark movie night. Son got to watch around it. Yeah, 1088 01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:03.800 why don't you grow up here and like do some YouTube bud Joe brets and 1089 01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:08.159 they're making fun of me, Joe Brad talking about your busted attenuator earlier. 1090 01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:14.479 Buddy, just just bring up a peanut butter whiskey if you want to shut 1091 01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:19.520 up, Joe Brad. Joe Bratt sez, Yeah, I haven't got some 1092 01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:24.880 millers sitting on ice right now. I'm gonna have to Yeah, I almost 1093 01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:29.600 polished off my whiskey the four roses. And that's not the bottle you showed 1094 01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:31.800 at the beginning that was full, is it? It was not full when 1095 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.520 I showed the beginning was here. Oh but is that what you're drinking right 1096 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:39.399 now, Frank, Yeah, that's why I just polished off. Okay, 1097 01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:44.720 good for you. Almost almost gone. But I have a leader. This 1098 01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:46.199 was the one I showed at the beginning. Oh that's the that's the one. 1099 01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:48.680 Yeah, I thought I thought, I thought you had a full bottle. 1100 01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:51.760 Oh yeah, that's that's why I was holding up as my award for 1101 01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:57.239 four thousand describers. Y'all love me. Well, I gotta tell you that. 1102 01:12:57.439 --> 01:13:00.920 So the Buffalo Trace is a really nice bourbon. I remember when it 1103 01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:03.159 was twenty six dollars for a bottle. Now now it's like around forty bucks 1104 01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:08.119 for a bottle. Yeah, it's all the all the everybody got into drinking 1105 01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:12.279 bourbon and it raised the price. But that and like several lists came out 1106 01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:15.199 and just wiped the shells all the bourbon. I was joined for twenty to 1107 01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:23.960 thirty bucks mckenneth Bottle and bonded on one hundred proof that was going for twenty 1108 01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:29.319 five dollars and now it's a rare item, Ego rare. I used to 1109 01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:31.960 find it on the shelves about four Yeah, like Egle rare. Well. 1110 01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:38.039 I used to drink the Van Winkle bourbons all the time, and so I 1111 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.199 used to My favorite is the lot Be. It's a twelve year old Van 1112 01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:44.960 Winkle and I used to get it for forty dollars a bottle. And I 1113 01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:46.439 had some of the other like I had the twenty three, the twenty year 1114 01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:49.600 old. I had a bunch of them. And then Anthony Bourdain was the 1115 01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:53.239 one that told everybody how great it was. And that's really what shot the 1116 01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:56.920 price of it up. I sold a bottle out of mustash for nine hundred 1117 01:13:56.960 --> 01:14:01.479 dollars somewhere around eighty bucks. You should have bought like a thousand bottles of 1118 01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:04.439 that at forty bucks a pop bag. I could recover already, Yeah, 1119 01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:08.159 because I used to there. One store by me always had it. And 1120 01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:09.600 so I go out there and I s yeah, I asked him, and 1121 01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:11.279 he goes, dude, I can't get it anymore. And he goes and 1122 01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:13.600 if I could, i'd have to charge you more money. I'm like, 1123 01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:15.920 son, I've been coming here for years. You're trying to reveal. That's 1124 01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:19.439 right, that's right, last time, Josh, Josh, just Josh, 1125 01:14:19.479 --> 01:14:23.359 you You've just committed yourself, buddy, He says, I'll bring my attenuators 1126 01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:25.640 to the happy Hour if I'm around this month. Well you're gonna you gotta 1127 01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:28.680 be around now. You just you just committed to it. So that's it. 1128 01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:31.600 Everyone, you heard it here first. So I was just that Specs. 1129 01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:35.119 When we were trying to buy this monster bottle, I grabbed the wrong 1130 01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:40.760 one. But anyways, and I was asking like do you have this or 1131 01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:45.000 that? And she's like, you're you're asking all about the allocated bottles. 1132 01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:47.119 I'm like, I used to drink most of these three four years ago, 1133 01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:50.760 and they were just sitting on the shelves. She's like, yeah, you 1134 01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:54.560 know they're all going to wait list kind of crab. Well, yeah, 1135 01:14:54.600 --> 01:14:57.640 nowhere. To get the list of Specs, you gotta be one of the 1136 01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:02.319 primary members or premium members, where you spend over one thousand dollars a month. 1137 01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:05.960 I'm like, I'm not drinking that much bourbon if I am, help 1138 01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:10.600 me. So. I used to run an IT engineering team and whenever we 1139 01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:15.319 would get a new person promoted from administrator to engineering. Once a month, 1140 01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:17.439 we would all pull our money together and we would call this one liquor store 1141 01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:23.039 and we would make massive orders, a couple thousand dollars, and we'd always 1142 01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:25.359 send a new guy. We'd be like, all right, it's your turn 1143 01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:27.239 to go, and he's you know, he said, put us my turn 1144 01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:31.880 last month. It's like at your turn until we get another new guy out 1145 01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:34.119 of it. You even have to go out there and pick up cases of 1146 01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:39.600 bourbon and bring them back. Oh my god, Well that's how you get 1147 01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:45.680 on the list. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I found a bottle 1148 01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:48.920 of scotch in my in my pantry the other day, and it was it 1149 01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:53.279 had gotten hidden behind a couple other bottles, and I took it out and 1150 01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:57.479 started pouring myself with a bottle of scotch, and I'm like, I can't. 1151 01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:01.119 I know now why I don't drink bourbon, because Scotch is so much 1152 01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:05.159 better, so much better than bourbon. You know, they age Scotch and 1153 01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:09.439 bourbon bottles for a reason. Yes, I know, yes, yeah, 1154 01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:13.560 yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's just smoother. Everybody's tastes 1155 01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:15.840 are different, you know, everybody I know. I give Ap a hard 1156 01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:18.399 time about about his Miller Lite obsession and he doesn't like my dark beers and 1157 01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:24.600 it's all right, it's all good. But everybody's scotch, everybody's uh. 1158 01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:30.119 This one was a Glenn Livett. Uh No, Glenn MORINGI. Glenn Levitt 1159 01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:32.760 is good. Dimple Pinch is good. I don't. I don't like the 1160 01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:36.079 real Peda ones like my favorite is uh. I don't like it Pete like. 1161 01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:40.560 But that's pretty pricey bottle at Wood Bond twelve. I think it's around 1162 01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:43.439 eighty to one hundred bucks, depending on where you go. That's not too 1163 01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:46.880 much for me, because honestly, if I buy a my wife will give 1164 01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:50.199 me a bottle of scotch. Well not every year, but a lot of 1165 01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:55.199 times. She will give me a bottle of scotch at Christmas and usually and 1166 01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:59.039 that bottle of Scotch that I just finished like two weeks ago was one she 1167 01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:01.840 gave me a Christmas lash. So it's been like nine months or ten months. 1168 01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:05.560 I'll tell you what at of Indian Scotch that I will give to you 1169 01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:10.640 at Dayton next year. Jason, Okay, And I was going to ask 1170 01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:15.119 if you're going to Orlando again. I don't know yet, So I just 1171 01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:17.520 don't know. Like we typically try to line that up with our annual Disney 1172 01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:23.159 trip that we do. Yeah, but sometimes that's the availability of the time 1173 01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:26.479 share is where that becomes a little bit Oh you got a timeshare out there? 1174 01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:29.199 Okay, yeah, so what I What I was saying though, is 1175 01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:31.359 that because I worked with tons of people from India, they always give me 1176 01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:35.840 bottles of these Indian scotch and is it Is it good? I don't know. 1177 01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:43.600 I like, I like Indian food. I used to watch my last 1178 01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:45.199 IT job. We had a bunch of Indian people there and they would do 1179 01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:48.399 we would do this uh pot luck, just like the whole IT department, 1180 01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.319 and they bring all this Indian food and I'm like, okay, it looks 1181 01:17:51.359 --> 01:17:55.960 kind of weird and ask them what it is and it's got some weird I 1182 01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:58.039 was like, I don't know how to say that. Then you taste it 1183 01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:00.239 and it's like yeah, you taste it, it's like, man, this 1184 01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:02.119 is really good. Well, so I do make a barbecue chicken. It's 1185 01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:05.880 like super red. I think it's called tangory chicken. That yeah, yeah, 1186 01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:09.239 that's good. Some of the other stuff I'm not such a fan of. 1187 01:18:09.359 --> 01:18:12.800 But I have yet to have anything that that I did not like. 1188 01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.199 Some of it I like better than other stuff. But for the most part, 1189 01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:17.840 I think I like most of it. So it's it's not I don't 1190 01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:24.960 I enjoy most all ethnic foods. I have not had hagis yet. Yeah, 1191 01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:27.840 I don't think I'm going to like it. I would like I'll try 1192 01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.079 it. I'll try it on. I'll try it once. I told my 1193 01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:33.159 wife, I try anything once. I've never tried hagis. But yeah, 1194 01:18:33.239 --> 01:18:39.720 but all the all the Asian foods, I love, Thai food. Yeah, 1195 01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:44.039 the Philippines. Man, they were eating which is like an unhatched duck 1196 01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:45.760 inside of an egg that's like, I don't know, weeks old or something 1197 01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:50.079 like that. Yes, it's like I ain't eating that. Yeah. Yeah, 1198 01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:55.479 Josh has talked about that. Apparently that's a delicacy for his family. 1199 01:18:56.399 --> 01:19:02.399 So yeah, yeah, that's great, Okay talking about it. I'm like, 1200 01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:04.760 Ye'll tell you, I'll do you a favor and let you have my 1201 01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:09.560 share of that. That's right, that's right. Yeah, Yeah, I'd 1202 01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:12.399 like to try it once just to say I did. But yeah, apparently 1203 01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.640 it's pretty inhumane the way they do it. That's what I was talking to 1204 01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:16.359 my wife about it. She's like, I don't want to eat that just 1205 01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:19.279 because it's inhumane the way they do it. I'm like, yeah, yeah, 1206 01:19:19.399 --> 01:19:21.600 yeah, but I mean, look at the way the pigs are treated 1207 01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:26.000 for bacon, you know what I mean. Like, it's true, true, 1208 01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:30.680 I'm just not We're talking about rattlesnake and bull nuts. I'm not eating 1209 01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:34.800 none of that. Rattlesnake is good, fantastic, but I had I had 1210 01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:39.520 mountain oysters one time, and there was so much breading around them you couldn't 1211 01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:41.840 really tell what they were. So yeah, I don't know about that. 1212 01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:46.479 Yeah, but I'm kind of back on amateur radio here. Maybe the last 1213 01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:50.920 question here, Bill's ask how or where do you find a chart or list 1214 01:19:51.079 --> 01:19:57.399 of the limits of spurry missions frequencies versus power? As Ape explained, it's 1215 01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:00.880 Part ninety seven, Section forty seven, I believe. So just go to 1216 01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:06.600 Google and type in part ninety seven and spurious emissions amateur radio, and it'll 1217 01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:10.479 probably pull up the Cornell website to that link and you can check it in 1218 01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:13.520 there. And then Bill, once you start messing around with it, you'll 1219 01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:15.359 you'll start to be like, oh, well, five watts is thirty seven, 1220 01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:20.000 ten watts is forty dB. You know, you'll it's it's just like 1221 01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:24.640 anything else. Then when you start doing it and become second nature to you, 1222 01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:29.119 interesting, Josh is coming back at you. That's funny, I know. 1223 01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:32.760 But as you were as listen, it's not a human so how can 1224 01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:35.039 it be inhumane? You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't get 1225 01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:38.800 that. Well, there's there's there's there's such a there's such a thing to 1226 01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:42.840 be said for the ethical treatment of animals, Like you know, these these 1227 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:46.119 slaughterhouses that feed cows a bunch of corn and where they can't even move around 1228 01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:53.319 and to get them all fat and everything. Yeah, well but grass fed, 1229 01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:57.399 free range cattle tastes better than that slaughterhouse crap does anyway. Yeah, 1230 01:20:57.640 --> 01:21:00.560 we pretty much grass fed. So do we we buy our lot? Well, 1231 01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:02.920 I shoot a lot of our meat because I have the deer lease, 1232 01:21:03.079 --> 01:21:06.000 So we eat a lot of venison and pork, and then we have a 1233 01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:11.079 we have a local butcher here in town that slaughters a cow every couple of 1234 01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:14.359 months or something, and we'll buy our our meat, our beef locally here 1235 01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:17.119 as well, so we don't even buy I don't think we bought meat except 1236 01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:19.720 for chicken beef. I don't think we bought any red meat at the store 1237 01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:23.720 for like five years. Yeah. We have a guy that does grass fed 1238 01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:28.880 longhorn close by, and so yeah, yeah, that's super lean, yo. 1239 01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:30.560 Like some people want like a nice, big, old, fatty ribbie 1240 01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:34.359 or something like that. So you want to get like a angus cow or 1241 01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:39.000 whatever it is for that. But yeah, yeah, yeah, well, 1242 01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:41.880 well, Josh, I will try it. I said I would try anything 1243 01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:44.960 once, and I would try it, but I just heard it was inhumane. 1244 01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:46.359 I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm thinking of, oh, you know 1245 01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:50.840 what I'm thinking of. I think I'm thinking of fog wa frog. That's 1246 01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:56.600 like, yeah, it's like a it's no, it's like a fatty goose 1247 01:21:56.640 --> 01:22:00.199 liver. Yeah, and they and they and they and they forced fees the 1248 01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:01.840 goose a bunch of meat, so it gets really fat. So it's the 1249 01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:05.760 liver gets big. Yeah. I never had that either, But but ballute 1250 01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:09.960 is a fertilized egg, so I mean it would have hashed if they didn't 1251 01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:14.920 not right, right exactly, Yeah, but they're still rolling dice. Man, 1252 01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:18.560 you don't know. I mean, you know, they've got like veins 1253 01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:23.800 and stuff, and they're all like membranes and stuff. You know. I 1254 01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:26.760 heard it looks weird. So you get you look at it, you're like, 1255 01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:29.159 what the heck is I don't know. I've never had it. I 1256 01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:33.479 don't know Josh likes I think I'm pretty sure Josh said he liked it. 1257 01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:38.079 So when every time he says that he would drink one of my pickle beers, 1258 01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:40.119 it'd be like, well, yeah, but you're weird already, dude. 1259 01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:45.359 I'll drink a pickle beer any day over. Has it tried ballute yet? 1260 01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:48.119 The same veal as human? But if you no, no, no 1261 01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:55.439 ballue. I haven't even tried the goose liver is fog wah or how you 1262 01:22:55.479 --> 01:23:00.119 say that? Yeah, but you I thought you said you had ballute. 1263 01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:03.399 Okay, maybe I'm thinking of something else. Well, no, Josh, 1264 01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:08.760 you's gotta try ballue. I thought he said it was something that something that 1265 01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:11.880 was popular in Chinese culture, which his wife is Chinese. Well, we'll 1266 01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.279 just find a restaurant at the next hand fish and we'll go. I'll try 1267 01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:17.720 it. It was Vietnamese culture. Yeah, I don't think you're gonna find 1268 01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:27.039 it. Well, what's the next one. It's gonna be Orlando Leando. 1269 01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:30.880 Yeah, Orlando's the next big get get together. Yeah, Orlando. And 1270 01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:35.760 then uh it's like February, right, this week of February right, yeah, 1271 01:23:36.199 --> 01:23:40.279 yep. I still can't forget how how you came up to me? 1272 01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:45.720 Right? I was like so dazed, like, yeah, well, the 1273 01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:54.159 worst was h MRDI will probably tell you I I I groped. I don't 1274 01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:57.000 know, but it was it was in a non sexual way, and uh 1275 01:23:57.399 --> 01:24:01.159 story please, I didn't know this. Yeah. Well, the thing is, 1276 01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:03.560 nobody knew I was going to be there, and it was funny because 1277 01:24:03.560 --> 01:24:06.560 I didn't want to get spotted. So even when I pulled into the parking 1278 01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:09.760 lot, I had my COVID mask on, you know what I'm saying. 1279 01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:14.359 And then that way I was able to make my way into the into the 1280 01:24:14.399 --> 01:24:18.760 into the fair grounds with anybody know one. Yeah. Yeah, And you 1281 01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:23.359 gave them your your g M R S license at the window. You don't 1282 01:24:23.359 --> 01:24:26.079 have to, you don't have to give a license to get in, so 1283 01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:29.479 they and when you go up, you just tell them a name and they 1284 01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:30.760 go to the will call box and hand it to you. They didn't even 1285 01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:33.720 check out idea or anything like that, because I was going to tell them, 1286 01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:39.039 as a sovereign citizen, it's unconstitutional for them to ask for my identification. 1287 01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:44.880 So more more more so than that, we actually welcome newcomers into ham 1288 01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:47.279 Radio. Yeah, yeah, exactly because we should or we should be and 1289 01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:50.600 then those of you who don't can go go back to q r Z and 1290 01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:57.319 stay there. Yeah. A lot of people bring their their old lady right, 1291 01:24:57.399 --> 01:25:00.239 and a lot of times they're not Hams. So down in Orlando they 1292 01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:05.439 had a nice tupperware section in one of the Oh they usually have nice jewelry 1293 01:25:05.479 --> 01:25:10.880 and or handbags. When I shoot my pictures for random stuff I find, 1294 01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:15.479 I make sure it's not some of that are the stuff that's open up for 1295 01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:18.359 the ladies there, because I'm not trying to pick on that, And and 1296 01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:21.960 I think it's awesome that they're there. And there's sometimes cool crafts there. 1297 01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:29.840 There was a guy that did chainsaw art at Huntsville. No cool crafts is 1298 01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:33.680 what he says. Cool crafts. Cool crafts. Mm hmmm, we'll talking 1299 01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:36.880 about frog legs. Now frog legs are damn good, guys, I don't 1300 01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:44.039 really good. Another chicken wings it's like it's like it's like very lean, 1301 01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:47.199 juicy chicken if I was hungry. But like I got a pile frog legs 1302 01:25:47.199 --> 01:25:51.680 are good. Good. I don't eat bugs, reptiles or amphibians. Kangaroo. 1303 01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:56.399 I'll try kangaroo. I've had kangaroo. That's actually, haven't I haven't 1304 01:25:56.439 --> 01:26:00.119 had kangaroo. No, I haven't done that. I tried tim tans and 1305 01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:05.680 those are amazing. They those are kangaroo cookies, right, Kangaroo taste real 1306 01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:10.479 minerally, like it's it's kind of like a real mineral. Yeah. But 1307 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:14.119 like I had kangaroo burgers, I had a kangaroo steak. I had kangaroos. 1308 01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:19.159 I've been to Australia work, so I haven't tried that yet. Well, 1309 01:26:19.159 --> 01:26:23.000 guys, thank you very much for joining tonight. This was a really 1310 01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:27.359 interesting stream. You're going to be seeing more of this being used on the 1311 01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:30.560 channel, I think, because every time I get a new radio I have 1312 01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:33.520 at least one commentary that says, why don't you put on a spectrum analyzer. 1313 01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:35.640 I'm like, okay, well now I can do that. Yeah, 1314 01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:39.239 So which is a good it's a good question. It's a fair question. 1315 01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:43.399 So no, we we kind of have a responsibility as amateur radio reviewers to 1316 01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:45.840 do it. Yeah. Yeah, So when you get the connectors in or 1317 01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:46.600 whatever, if you want to catch up offline, I'll show you what I 1318 01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:50.079 got and then we can do okay, okay, cool, Thanks for having 1319 01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:54.359 me on. Thanks everybody in chat. Had a great time tonight, absolutely 1320 01:26:54.399 --> 01:26:56.760 yeah, thanks Ape. It's always good to have you on. Good, 1321 01:26:57.239 --> 01:27:00.840 good, good wealth of information and knowledge there. So I appreciate your uh 1322 01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:03.640 your expertise tonight for sure. So yeah, you guys have a good one. 1323 01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:05.720 We'll see you tomorrow night on Monday Night Ham Radio. I have a 1324 01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:10.760 premiere tomorrow. I think a couple of other people go too, so good 1325 01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:14.279 okay, so uh yeah, we'll see you then. Thanks guys, appreciate 1326 01:27:14.319 --> 01:27:15.039 it way goodbye bye,