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Thirty five after the hour. Welcome
back, Exes and bros. We're on

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across the great state of Michigan and
Flint and Cadillac Grand Rapids, Grayling,

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Gaylord, Midland, Saganaw Bay City, Pataski, Charlevoi, Traverse City.

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Thanks for joining us on this first
of July, and we appreciate our friend

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Ted Kaulfin of the Detroit News,
Red Wings beat writer and a Hall of

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Famer in Dearborn who joins us as
well. Happy holidays early to you and

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your family. Ted, We appreciate
it very much. I know you're well

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and I know you've been busy,
so appreciate the time very much. The

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Patrick Kaine first and foremost, the
Patrick Kaine one year deal. Why do

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you think this is such a good
deal for Steve Eisman and the Red Wings

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And what does this allow them to
do moving forward with another established leader and

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a producer of twenty goals from a
year ago? Well, first, thanks

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for the kind words, and I
think the Hall of Fame thing was ninety

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five percent sports writing and five percent
wreck basketball and softball. Let me tell

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you, Bobby Benia Dage, you
get your million dollar paycheck in the mailbox

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this morning. Well, listen,
of course, I'm just I just can't

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wait to spend it. You know, I'm sure you did too. You're

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the best, man, I tell
you. Great signing for one year,

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come on, Chep. I mean, I think all the talk was about

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all he was gonna want it two
or three years. I'm gonna be curious

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to see how that went down.
Yeah, I mean, and the money

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for a million dollar base, so, Chep, they got a couple more

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extra million to play with today.
So you know, there'll be some interesting

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names out there. And we've talked
about him Stamcoast, Jonathan Mars Show,

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the trade with Jacob Truba is still
in the mix. So it's gonna be

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really interesting, interesting to see how
he puts Steve Weisman puts all these pieces

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together. But yeah, Patrick canam, he showed everybody he can still play

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at a very elite level last year. What did you think he brought to

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the team that it lacked, that
it needed. That's a good question,

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Chep. Just a little pizzazz.
I mean that nickname showtime it really yeah,

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it fits. I mean that's what
he brought. I mean, he

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had a sense of excite here man, that flare for the dramatic. How

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many big goals do you have it
to get like four game winning goals and

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ot or something like that. I
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would have been tough to replace him. What is he? You know?

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From a player standpoint, I think
they've got leaders in there. He's just

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another one. But he seems to
settle guys down. Do you think that's

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part of the DNA that they like
in that room before him? Yeah?

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Sure, I mean he's been He's
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in every possible situation, every possible
moment. What multiple Stanley Cup championships,

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man, I mean, he just
he knows how to bring it at the

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biggest possible moment. He can calm
the young guys down. He's been through

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it. And the thing is,
chemistry wise just really good. He sat

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into that room really well. I
was kind of curious how that was going

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to work, but he just he's
fitted really seamlessly, and he seemed to

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like it Chep, I really did. He liked playing for the organization,

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like the area, who's familiar with
it. I'm not shocked that he came

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back. I thought there was a
really good chance, but I am surprised

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by just the one year. I
really thought it'd be multiple years. But

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then again, like we said earlier, that one year with the base,

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that's only four million bucks that's going
to help the Wings. Yeah, there's

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no question. Tik Kulfin of the
Detroit News. Joiner is here on ex'es

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and bros. You can fall him
on Twitter on x at t Kulfin k

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U l f A. And he's
the dearborn Hall of Famer and he's with

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us on this Monday morning. Now
that he's in the fold, and you

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understand, they had a lot of
money under the cap, but a lot

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of that money's going to Raymond Insider, Right, So where did they go

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next? And what would it take
to get one of those players on their

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wish list? Man, that's a
great question. Shep Where if I was

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the GM, where would I go
next? Or I would definitely try I

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suppose that. Steven Stamkost, I'm
not sure that's gonna Again, maybe I'm

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mister pessimistic. I'm not sure that
that's going to happen because I've heard that

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Nashville is going to be very aggressive, The Rangers are going to be very

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aggressive, and I just don't know
if the Wings can match that. But

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I tell you my friend and you
know, to Steve Weicherman has a way.

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I mean, he's pretty good these
sort of things. He's got a

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relationship with stamp posts. So let's
see if that kind of helps the TRUEBA

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thing like we you know, we
heard about all weekend. I'm not sure

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how much there is to that.
I would definitely consider it, shep,

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I don't know if you would.
I would consider it for the number.

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I guess Rangers will retain some of
that money, so Wings would probably be

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on the hook for about five or
five point five. That's reasonable. I

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suppose. I think there's better options
than Jacob true, but but he's I

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think he would fit in nicely on
this. He gives him. He gives

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him some bite and physicality, There's
no question about that. But uh,

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you know what, here's one name
under the radar a little bit, uh,

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the little goal scorer from Vegas,
Jonathan marsha Show. You know,

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he won the Consmith a couple of
years ago. He's an interesting option if

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they don't, I think he would
really help. He's been, uh,

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he's been a pretty consistent thirty goal
scorer. Whatnot. Players with kind of

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a little David Paran type of thing. He's good friends with. David Paran

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plays with a little bit of you
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an edge, kind of a kind
of a guy that's under the gets under

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the fingernails of the other team.
He'd be an option. Uh, long,

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long, long long shot, Tyler
Bertuzzi. Who knows, maybe they

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get you know, something can happen
there, But that's a long, long,

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long shot. But there's some options. There'll be a fun day,

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that's for sure. It always is. Yeah, you know what. I'm

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glad you bring that up because to
me, I don't think you necessarily need

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to be by the big names all
the time. It just has to be

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the right fit. And you brought
up David Peran. I think David Prawn

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has been a very good fit.
Do you anticipate him re upping and staying

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in Detroit? He sure likes it
hairshop, I'll tell you that much.

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He really enjoys it here. He's
going to have to take a little bit

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of a salary bite. I mean
he can't take he can't make as much

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as he's last year, but I
think he would at this point in his

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career. No, you're absolutely right, my friend. I think he's been

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a good fit and I do think
I'd be surprised if they don't work out

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something with him. And then a
defenseman Shane gossips the hair, that'll be

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a little more difficult. I guess
we'll see what happens with True but first

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I suppose too. But I thought
the one thing with that Gustus beher Man

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is he run of power. I
mean, he had heard all the positives

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about how good he is with with
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something special. That'd be a you
know, he lacks a little defensively,

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but boy, oh boy, he
brings it on the other end of the

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rink. And again, that'd be
a tough guy to replace if they lose

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him. Yeah, there's no question
about that. I think, you know,

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for as bad as he may be
defensively, he makes up for that

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offensively and the power play. And
maybe that's why Jacob True but at least

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for me, is is such an
attractive option. I've liked him ever since

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he came out from the University of
Michigan. I loved him in Winnipeg.

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I think he'd be a really big
plus for the Red Wings. But I've

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been wrong before. I thought Jeff
Petree would be as well. How much

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should be his defensive metrics is defensive
staffs and you can I'm not you know

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those metrics? What just the eye
I look for the eye test he has

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slipped at. He didn't play as
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seasons and he was demoted down to
the third pair in the playoffs, and

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that's where he was. Rangers are
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He's lost to maybe a little bit
of a step, and he takes some

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bad penalties, but boy, that
just that idea that he's back there and

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he's not afraid to hit. Obviously, that would be an interesting option,

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a good option for them to have
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much should we read ted into what
this team is doing moving forward and the

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trading of Wallman and the second round
pick and some of the younger players that

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maybe we feel are close to being
ready to jump into the next next year.

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Well, the Wallman trade chef that
was just basically done to clear cap

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space. They needed a little bit
more room for what they want to accomplished

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today and signing Raymond and Cider tough
to move salary of these days in the

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NHL, and that kind of shows
that there were a couple other deals this

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weekend where the team had attached a
draft pick just basically unload a salary.

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Uh And by the way, wellman, I thought he slipped a little bit

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last year, Shop. I mean, he was as good as he was

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the year before. I mean,
he was a healthy scratch there down the

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down the down the stretch, and
you know who knew you know where he

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was going to stand on the depth
chart next season. But yeah, I

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mean you got Simon Edvinson coming in
for sure, a shop. But he

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looks like he's going to be the
real deal. He could be a nice

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player. Johansson kid, I hadn't
watched him as much just during training camp

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in some of the preseason games.
I mean, they love, they love

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the way he moves the puck.
He's a really steady guy. Berger and

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Johnson Bernhery. He's been up here
before, he's had some success here before.

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Bergmant, you do kind of wonder
where he's gonna fit into the lineup,

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especially after today. If they get
a couple of guys, we'll see

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what happens. I think he's ready
to play nice. He's got great instinct

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shep. He knows what to do
with the puck. He seems to be

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in the right spot all the time. They've got some guys ready, I

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mean pretty soon, if you're pretty
soon here, we'll get to see the

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likes of what Nate Danielson and who's
the other fmrco Casper. I don't know

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if there's room this year shop,
but it's gonna be pretty soon, probably

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another year year away. So yeah, he'll be interesting. I mean,

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if he bridges some of these guys
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just to one year, that does
still leave some open spots for next

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year. So there's some depth.
There's some depth of this organization. I

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think we'll be we we'll begin to
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next two or three years. Signed
Ted Coulfin joining us here on EXS and

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Bros. You can foll him on
ex at t kaulfin He of the Detroit

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News. Eight draft picks over the
weekend, led by Michael Brandiscat. Nigard

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right, the kid from Norway and
the first ever Norwegian drafted in the first

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round. What was your overall take
on the hall that Steve Eiserman and Chris

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Draper had for Detroit on Draft weekend. Well, we'll see in the future

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set, but it was the full
They definitely they needed a few more score

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more wingers. I mean they got
a lot of pieces on defense as far

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as the depth chart and organizationally,
they needed a few more wingers. The

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kid from Norway, he's not far
away. Evidently he's got a pro build.

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I mean he's a pretty strong kid. Heck of a shot. Allegedly,

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Uh, he plays hard, great
on the fore check. A couple

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of scouts told me this guy might
be the best for checker in the draft

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class. So you know, they
needed a guy they don't think that didn't

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necessarily have a guy like that anywhere. So he he helps a lot of

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people, like that second round pick
from the US program shop. Ye nice

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passer. Allegedly, one guy told
me he might be one of the best

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passes, if not the best passer
in the draft. You can find just

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the way you can feather the puck. He finds the open man. And

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then there here's one sleeper, that
Swedish kid they got like in the fifth

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or sixth round that Charlie Forthland.
I think it is big kids six foot

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three. One of those kids that
played in the lower division than Sweden,

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so he kind of dominated. But
you know, we'll see how that translates

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next season into playing into a bigger
division. But you look at the size

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and the skill. You know,
you can put the puck in the net

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and some other things that they like. It could be who knows, maybe

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I'll be one of those kids down
the line that they really found a gym.

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Later in the draft said what does
this team needs? A great question?

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Yeah, that's a great question.
Could use a few you know what

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this team has do better defensively?
I think the offense is starting to come

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around. I mean if you would
have asked me that a year or two

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ago, whether they didn't score enough
goals. I think they'll be able to

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score enough goals. They kind of
they did this season, but they still

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have to stop the other team.
I mean that was still a problem last

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year. So I guess to a
certain extent, do we look at the

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goaltending, does that still need to
be upgraded? Uh? Yeah, who's

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in Lion? I don't know.
It's not bad, it's not a bad

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combo. I'm sure I could be. It could be better. So maybe

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he goes well, there's nothing in
free agency that really betters that. But

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maybe on the trade market does he
find something but a healthy I'll tell you

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what, a healthy Whoso. I
still think that could be. That's a

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pretty good option to have. I
think he can. He showed two years

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ago he could be a really good
goalie, and last year was just a

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wash. I mean, he just
was injured the entire year, Thank god

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by Alex Lyon. Last year Chepd
then had By would have made a disaster.

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He stepped up and played really well. He really did. But here's

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the bigger concern for me. Anyway, You're much closer to it than I

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can be. But I just don't
see how they have a number one goalie.

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It's kind of like it's kind of
like the Tigers lineup. You really

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don't have a lot of number one
guys at different positions. I wouldn't mind

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Whoso as a backup. I wouldn't
mind lying as a backup. But if

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I'm playing either one of those guys
on a regular basis, I'm slightly concerned.

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How far off are there? Argument? Shop? We were just talking

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about that. That's a fair argument. A healthy who's soo I kind of

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think Highland a little more highly of
it, sounds like than you do.

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But he's got to be healthy,
that's the thing. He's got to be

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healthy. Alex Lyon. Yeah,
I mean, he had a really good

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run last year, but then he
did get it seems like he got a

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little tired there at the end.
Or whether they're pressure or whatnot. Now

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that's a very fair point. That's
maybe they will go in that direction.

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How about maybe satn't know, I
mean, how about somebody like a John

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Gibson from Anaheim. Yeah, I
mean he's kind of slipped to the last

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couple of years, but he's had
you know, he's still that age wise,

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he's still he can still bring it, probably and that might be an

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improvement, but it's not a ton
of That's a tough that's a tough position

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to fill, I tell you that
goalie, and you just never know with

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them. I mean, it's like
a relief pitcher. You just never know.

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You know. Steve Wiseman, well
enough, last question for you,

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what is his patience level right now
with this team? Knowing that you're gonna

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have to it was going to be
a while for this, for this rebuild,

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if you will. But there are
the expectations are people are getting a

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little restless. You're right. I
think he wants to win, don't you.

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I think it's about time, I
think he said. I think he's

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a little hired of the losing.
I think he is a patient man and

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he wants to do this the right
way. But shep. I just judging

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by some of these moves the last
couple of years, he wants to make

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the playoffs. I mean, let's
face it, and he wants to get

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this thing going. That's my impression
anyways. Yeah, and with with the

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younger players that he's got coming up, he feels like he can be sustainable

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because it's something that he has said, it's got to be more than just

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one year, right, and he
wants You want to do that. You

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want to build something like a Tampa
or you know, the Brewins or Florida.

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You want to do that. And
I think he's got his way to

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doing that with the depth that he's
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For sure. It's great stuff.
Ted appreciate it very much. All the

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best to you and your family.
Thanks to the time this morning and hope

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we can talk again. It's always
insightful. Appreciate your writing on the Detroit

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News and all the stuff you tweet
out at t Kulfin and taking some time

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with us here on a Monday morning. Buddy, you are the absolute best,

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any time. My friend,