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This is a studio both and production. Hey it's Josh. Just a

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quick correction before we start the show. In the previous episode, I referred

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to Jonathan Corey using a kayak to
cross eld Inlet on the night that he

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disappeared. John actually used a canoe. Sorry for any confusion. This is

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true crime bullshit. I'm your host, Josh Hallmark, and this is a

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serialized story of Israel Keys. Following
a six year string of incidents and attacks

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at the Evergreen State College, there
was one final assault in October of two

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thousand and seven. But first we
need to go back to two thousand and

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six and an encounter at a different
Washington State campus that we previously discussed.

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In season four, episode twelve,
we discussed a tip that came in from

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a listener named Lauren s. Here's
a quick refresher. Lauren explained that she

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was interested in the Keys case and
this podcast because Israel always seemed eerily familiar

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to her. But in episode eight
of season two, something she heard stunned

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her. Israel had on two occasions
introduced himself to strangers as Israel, and

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both times, when asked about his
unique name, Keyes told him The reason

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for his weird name is that he
had hippy parents, and Lauren recalled having

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that exact conversation with a man at
the Everett Community College sometime around the spring

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of two thousand six. She was
taking night classes there as part of a

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college head start program for high schoolers. At a round sunset, she encountered

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a man who looked to be in
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was twenty eight in two thousand six. He was smoking in a somewhat wooded

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area between the campus's maintenance shed and
parking lot. The man asked her how

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old she was, and when she
told him she was sixteen, he began

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trying to lure her away with the
promise of beer. His persistence creeped her

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out, and eventually she made her
way back to the building she was working

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in. According to Lorenette, this
encounter happened at around the exact same time

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is the attack on Valerie at Evergreen
State College spring of two thousand and six,

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and what Everett Community College, Evergreen
State College, and Western Washington University

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all have in common is that they
are small campuses in heavily wooded areas near

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a population center. They're all just
across Puget Sound from the Olympic Peninsula.

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They're all located within a four to
five hour drive from Nia Bay, and

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they all sit on the outskirts of
the towns they are in. Everett Community

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College is one hundred fifty seven miles
and a four hour thirty five minute drive

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from Keyes's house in Nia Bay.
The Evergreen State College is one hundred ninety

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seven miles and a three hour fifty
five minute drive from Nia Bay. Western

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Washington University is one hundred eighty eight
miles and a four hour fifty minute drive

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from Nia Bay. All relative satively
close, but far enough away to create

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personal, physical and forensic distance.
I bring this up because it's indicative of

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a pattern with many of the keys
sidings and places Keys confessed to trolling.

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For example, Vermont State College,
Johnson, where Keys told the FBI he

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planned on robbing a bank following the
murder of the couriers, and where multiple

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students have placed Keys. It's a
small campus and a heavily wooded area on

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the outskirts of a town. It's
one hundred eight miles and a two hour

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twenty minute drive across Lake Champlain and
state lines from Keys's cabin and Constable Sunny

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Albany, where we have multiple sightings
of Keys in the late nineties and where

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Susi Lyle attended when she went missing, is a small campus in a heavily

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wooded area on the outskirts of town. It's two hundred three miles and a

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three hour ten minute drive from Constable. All five campuses are essentially the last

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stop before leaving town and entering the
woods, much like the neighborhood that the

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Couriers lived in the neighborhood where Marble
Arvidson lived, the area where Deborah Feldman

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disappeared, and many of the other
places and schools will be discussing this episode

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and later this season. The last
known to US campus incident in western Washington

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was in October of two thousand seven
at Evergreen State College. Again on October

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fifteenth, the student woke up in
her dorm room at around three a m.

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To find a man in a ski
mask and armed with a handgun standing

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over her bed. The student reported
to campus police that the man raped her

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for approximately thirty minutes before leaving her
dorm apartment through an unlocked window. What's

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interesting is the victim was living in
the same dorm type that the guys who

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rescued Valerie from in last week's episode. Were in the type with the big

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sliding windows that students often used as
doors. According to an article in The

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Olympian titled Students reconsider safety on Evergreen
Campus, her attacker exited through her ground

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floor window. Students said it is
accustomed to enter friends apartments or dorms by

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opening the window and stepping inside.
Based on campus maps and alumni have spoken

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to there is only one part of
campus with these specific apartment dorms, across

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from parking Lot F and precisely where
Valerie was attacked the year before in spring

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of two thousand and six, and
much like the previous attacks, this one

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occurred in the midst of multiple sightings
of a man on campus watching people.

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According to that same Olympian article,
the lead investigator on the rape investigation received

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multiple tips from students regarding a suspicious
man in the area on the day surrounding

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the assault, and one student even
reported that while she was working at the

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campus pool, she saw a man
watching her through the windows. So where

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was keys? On October fifteenth of
two thousand and seven, well, I

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bet you know the answer. Yep, we can't place him anywhere. We

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do know that Kim left for a
two week work trip in California on the

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sixteenth, and that she'd previously been
working in Wyoming from September twenty third through

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October seventh. We also know that, according to the Keys construction calendar I've

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built, Keyes had a mysterious work
stoppage between August twenty fourth and November twenty

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first of two thousand and seven,
a period where Kimberly was mostly gone,

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Sarah hadn't yet arrived in Alaska,
and Keyes stopped responding to clients and booking

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jobs. Incidentally, this attack also
happened to occur right around Sarah's birthday,

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a period which historically we can place
Keys with Sarah or his brother, who

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shares the same birthday. Sarah was
in Nia Bay at the time. And

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then, of course there's the ski
mask and handgun of it, all which

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are by no means revolutionary in breaking
and entering an assault, but they also

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coincide with his use of Samantha's debit
card and somewhat with her abduction. He

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said that for her abduction he used
a cut off sleeve from a long sleeved

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shirt to fashion into a ski mask, and in the photos of his first

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few atm withdrawals in Alaska, he's
wearing an actual ski mask. And while

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that may be the last known incident
at Evergreen State College, it's not the

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last reported sighting of keys in the
area. According to a string of comments

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on a YouTube video about keys,
a man believes he met Israel at a

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soup kitchen in Olympia in two thousand
and nine. This man posted that he

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met a man with short, curly
hair named Israel at the Union Gospel Mission

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at some point that year. He
said that the name Israel stood out to

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him because he'd never met anyone with
that name before. He also said after

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watching the video that the man he
met was very possibly Israel keys. The

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Union Gospel Mission is in an industrial
area of Olympia on a small peninsula,

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surrounded by ports, a water treatment
facility, a lumber yard, and the

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inner city transit building. And here's
the thing about the many, many sightings

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of keys, and there's more to
come. At soup kitchens and homeless shelters,

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We've talked a lot about how they
would be easy places for him to

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prey on vulnerable victims, but they'd
also be easy places for keys to eat

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and sleep without leaving a digital or
transactional footprint. There are places where israel

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keys could be surrounded by vulnerable victims, eat and sleep for free, and

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remain almost entirely invisible. The sightings
of keys at Western Washington college campuses end

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essentially as soon as he left the
area, and that's precisely when they pick

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back up again on the East Coast. Now, as we move to the

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East Coast, much like Keys himself, will be jumping around a bit,

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so bear with me as we travel
back and forth through the timeline and across

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New England. Keyes told the FBI
that once he moved to Alaska, he

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had to start traveling to commit his
crimes, and as we've learned throughout the

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podcast, most of those travels fell
within the keys hotspots, areas he'd returned

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to over and over again. That
much like the college campus sightings were close

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but not too close to places he
had homes or loved ones. In the

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East Coast sidings mirror that exactly.
They place him in New Jersey, Maine,

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Vermont, and New Brunswick. So
let's start with New Jersey a state

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we can only positively place Keys once
during his abduction of Deborah Feldman in April

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of two thousand nine. On December
twenty one of two thousand seven, a

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woman named Susan Coate was showering in
the woman's locker room at County College of

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Morris and Randolph, New Jersey,
when a masked man entered the locker room

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and, according to the Morris County
Daily Record, tried to get at her

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through the shower curtains. Susan screamed
as loudly as she could, and the

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man quickly ran out of the locker
room, never to be seen again.

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But six years later, after Keys
was arrested and died by suicide in prison,

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Susan was shown a photo of him
on Facebook. This is what she

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had to say. I think he
was in northern New Jersey in late December

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of two thousand and seven. All
I need to see to be absolutely positive

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of it is a picture of him
smiling, showing his teeth pattern. If

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anyone has one, please post.
Someone then posted a picture of Keys smiling,

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and this was her response. From
what I can see of the dental

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this matches an individual who attacked me
in a New Jersey Community College women's locker

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room shower on twelve twenty one,
two thousand seven. As you probably remember,

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Keyes had a distinct recession in his
two front teeth, which set back

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from the rest of his teeth,
so it's interesting that Susan asked specifically about

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his teeth. Now, we had
a lot of questions for Susan, specifically

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how she could be so sure it
was Keys, considering the man who attacked

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her was wearing a mask and appears
to have done so through a shower curtain.

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We also wanted more specifics about how
the attack occurred, which was incredibly

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vague in both Susan's Facebook posts and
the Morris County Daily Record. Unfortunately,

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Susan Cope passed away in twenty twenty
two. In lieu of conversation, we

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filed a FOYA for the police report
and our awaiting approval. Keyes, as

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usual, can't be placed anywhere when
Susan's attack occurred. All we know is

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that he returned to Alaska from a
trip to his at Heidi in Indiana and

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then Sarah in Washington on December sixteenth, and according to the Keys construction timeline,

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Keyes did a plumbing job for a
client in Anchorage between late December two

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thousand seven and January fourteenth of two
thousand and eight. Although we don't have

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specific dates of work, this is
the same job where the client reported that

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Keyes had a blonde girlfriend who would
bring him lunches. County College of Morris

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is interesting, though in the Greater
Keys narrative, it's just thirty miles from

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Deborah Feldman's apartment and thirty three miles
from Mahwah where Deborah was believed to have

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been abducted, and it's less than
a two hour drive from Hawk Mountain,

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where a woman saw Keys retrieving a
bucket from the woods and later burning items

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from his trunk in multiple campfires,
much like Keyes reported he did in the

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New Hampshire Woods following the Courier attack. Deborah Feldman was abducted a year and

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three months after this County College of
Morris attack. The Hawk Mountain siding was

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a year and two months after the
attack, at which point Keyes had seemed

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to have already placed that bucket in
the woods. Additionally, Chiama Gray of

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the name is forty five disappeared just
one week prior to Susan's attack geographically,

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County College of Morris stands out for
many of the same reasons as our previous

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colleges. It's a small campus in
a heavily wooded area on the outskirts of

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town. It's three hundred and fifty
seven miles and a five hour thirty minute

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drive from Constable across state lines,
and to get there and back, Keyes

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would travel either New York State Route
thirty or directly past the Mahwah Hotel.

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Deborah Feldman disappeared from Susan's attack.
Takes us to another string of incidents at

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a Northeast college with a startling to
israel Keys. Between nineteen ninety nine and

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two thousand six, there were a
string of incidents and attacks at the University

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of Maine in Orino, Maine.
These incidents began with an unsettling encounter in

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the women's locker room showers on December
seventh of nineteen ninety nine. A female

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student was showering and suddenly saw a
tall, medium built man with short hair

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staring at her from over the shower
divider. Another dorm resident later saw the

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man running from the locker room and
described him as standing around six feet tall,

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with short hair and glasses. It's
unclear if those were reading glasses or

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sunglasses. Now, at first glance, this likely couldn't be Keys. He

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was already enlisted in the army at
the time and appears to have been stationed

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at Fort Lewis in Olympia, Washington, and we know that he used at

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least some of his military leave at
around Christmas Day year to visit his aunt

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and grandmother in Orange County, California. But there's some interesting information we've had

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for a while now that we've been
trying to verify and make sense of.

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Israel Keys allegedly had an Amish girlfriend
who lived in orin Omain for years before

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he moved to Alaska with Kimberly.
It all began on the hellscape known as

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Reddit. In twenty thirteen, an
account posted on the ask reddit subreddit in

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response to the question what's the closest
You've ever come to a serial killer?

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Knowingly or unknowingly? The account posted
a link to the Israel Keys Wikipedia page

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and then typed this, My sister
dated this guy and he was like an

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older brother to me when I was
growing up. He moved to Alaska when

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I was four fourteen, and I
didn't hear from him until he began to

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show up in the news after being
caught for killing up to five people.

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So Shana Tooker and a listener named
Kelly started digging into this person, and

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through the data mining skills we've learned, they were pretty quickly able to link

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this Reddit account back to a real
person, a man will call Z.

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It turns out, as far as
we could verify, Z was telling the

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truth. His family was and remains
friends with Heidi Keys. Most of Keyes's

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siblings and even his in laws down
in Wells, Texas. They grew up

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in an Amish community not far from
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lived and maintain a maple farm,
and we were able to determine this family

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was the same family who helped rebuild
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including Israel in twenty ten. There
are even photos of Keys with z z

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extended family. So while none of
this proves the part about Keys dating his

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sister, I'm inclined to believe it. Zee posted to redd it anonymously,

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and yet every other part of his
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So why lie about this part,
and what that tells us is contrary to

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what travel records indicate, Keyes spent
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between nineteen ninety eight when his family
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seven, and that while he was
with Tammy and raising Sarah, and even

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while he was with Tammy and Annie, Keyes was likely in a relationship in

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Maine with a Heidi approved Amish woman, and that is one major theme of

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this season. Not everything on the
East Coast is as it has Seemed's immediately

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interesting about this girlfriend in Orano in
relation to college campus sidings in Maine is

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that they once again aligned perfectly with
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this girl between sometime around late nineteen
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the spring of two thousand seven,
and the sightings at the University of Maine

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Orino and to terrifying encounters near Colby
College in nearby Waterville all occurred between nineteen

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ninety eight and two thousand and six. Now, before we continue on with

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the Orino incidents, let's go to
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the same night October eleventh of nineteen
ninety eight. An article from the October

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twelfth, nineteen ninety eight issue of
the Bangor Daily News titled police searching for

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collision rapist reported on a rape and
an attempted rape in the Waterville area of

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Maine, wherein the perpetrator got women
to stop on the highway after bumping their

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cars with his dark colored forward pickup
truck. The first incident took place at

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around nine fifty pm on Interstate ninety
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truck bumped a small suv with a
lone female driver. The two pulled over

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to exchange information, at which point
the man in the pickup truck tried to

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force the woman into the truck.
However, she was able to fight off

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her attacker and get back into her
car and flee. The second woman was

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not so lucky. At around ten
twenty that same night, at a stop

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sign at an I ninety five exit
in Waterville, the same man in the

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same truck rear ended a small sedan
with once again another lone female driver.

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This time the man talked to the
driver. He told her that his brakes

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had failed and he needed a ride. To Clinton, Maine, eleven miles

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northeast up I ninety five en route
to Orino. So the woman followed him

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to a nearby church parking lot where
he left his truck and then got into

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her car for the sixteen minute drive
to Clinton. Once arriving in Clinton and

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pulling off I ninety five, the
man forced her to drive to an isolated

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and heavily wooded cemetery on Hinckley Road, about a mile and a half off

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the interstate. That's where he raped
her, and after the rape, he

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forced her to drive him all the
way back sixteen minutes to the church parking

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lot where he left his truck.
From there, he casually got into the

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truck and drove off. Both women
described their attacker as a white man in

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his early to mid twenties. Keys
was twenty at the time, with short,

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dark hair and dark eyes. Keys
had short, brown hand and brown

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eyes, weighing approximately one hundred sixty
to one hundred seventy five pounds. Keyes

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weighed one hundred seventy pounds according to
his army records. Unfortunately, the article

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did not mention the perpetrator's height.
Now, let's start with the Army Keyes

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enlisted with the Army in July of
nineteen ninety eight and was quickly sent to

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Fort Lewis on July ninth. The
details of this period of his army career

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are murky at best. We know
that at some point between being sent to

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Fort Lewis and May of nineteen ninety
nine, he spent time at Fort Hood

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in Colleen, Texas. He also
fairly early on trained at Camp Riley outside

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of Astoria, Oregon, and he
did a training stint at Fort Sherman and

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Panama around Thanksgiving of ninety eight.
Following that, he trained at Fort Irwin

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in Barstow, California in May of
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were pretty clear on his whereabouts with
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he would have a crude leave and
could request to use it to visit family

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in cases of emergency or prior to
a non emergency deployment, which makes a

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trip to Maine in October of ninety
eight possible but not necessarily likely. But

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also, according to registration records included
in the FBI Foya Keyes had a black

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nineteen seventy seven Ford pickup truck at
this time, and we know that Keys

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like to use his victim's cars to
move from point A to point B rather

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than his own, and Keyes told
us he liked using cemeteries to commit his

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rapes. And Waterville is less than
an hour from Orino, where Keys allegedly

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had an Amish girlfriend at the time, and one hundred fifty miles and a

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two hour drive from Keyes's family farm
in Smyrna, Maine. And Keys matches

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the women's description of their attacker in
body type, weight, hair color,

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eye color, and hairstyle. And
finally, this man employed the exact method

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that we've heard about in dozens of
stories about encounters with men people believed were

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Keys, most notably and credibly that
of Molly. Just two years later outside

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of Nia Bay in late two thousand
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two sketches were provided of the man, both of which sort of looked

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like Keys, while also not really
looking alike themselves. In two thousand and

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three, back at the University of
Maine Orino, according to the main campus

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news, a man asked a student
for directions before attempting to pull her into

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his car. The man was described
as white, standing at around five foot

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ten in his mid twenties, weighing
approximately one hundred eighty pounds, having a

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muscular build, with no facial hair, and spiky blonde hair. We don't

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necessarily believe that this was Keys,
but are including it just in case,

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particularly because we believe Keys was in
the area at the time, and other

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than the spiky blonde hair, most
of the description matches. The last known

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to US assault on campus at University
of Maine Orino occurred on October twelfth of

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two thousand and six. Again,
and I can't stress this enough. Keyes

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was known to and historically did visit
the Maple Farm almost every single October,

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and you'll notice a pattern that most
of these attacks occurred in October. That

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Saturday night, an unidentified man grabbed
a female student and tried to pull her

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into the brush and further result her
outside of Shibble's Hall. According to the

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student, the man was between twenty
two and twenty nine years old. Keys

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was twenty eight. He stood between
five eleven and six feet tall. Keys

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was six foot two and had a
medium build, short brown hair, and

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slight facial hair. Keys had a
medium build, short brown hair, and

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rarely had facial hair. This man
was wearing a green Carhart jacket and blue

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jeans. A sketch was produced which
does look like a younger Israel Keys,

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particularly the weak chin and distinct Roman
nose. What stands out about this attack

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is that we believe Keys was in
Maine when it happened. The timeline can't

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place him anywhere, but shows that
he likely rented a car on October eighth,

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And as you may recall from last
season, on October fifteenth of two

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thousand and six, Donny Mesier disappeared
from Waitesfield, Vermont, just three days

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later and two hundred and eighty four
miles away, and that brings us back

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to Vermont, where things have changed
drastically. Mama gripped onto the Milkman's hand

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and that she finally gave birth years
ago. By still I don't know who

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shall inherit this earth, and no
one will know my name Talent on Stone

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