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It's the Big Twelve Breakdown time with
Jone Sabbath Bridge is here with you where

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they look around the Big Twelve.
This week plenty to talk about, as

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we'll have our hot takes here at
just a moment, we also have the

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future Big Twelve schedules out. We'll
take a look at the first Cottage Football

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playoff rankings and more coming up in
just a matter of moments. Before we

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get to all that, though,
we begin as we do in every week,

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with our hot takes in the Big
Twelve, and Tom, I gotta

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say, first and foremost, I'm
so thrilled with the way my Kansas Jayhawks

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performed. My hot take, I'll
go to Kansas this week. I do

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not think it is a foregone conclusion
that we are going to see in Oklahoma,

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Texas rematch of the Big Twelve title
game. I would not rule out

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possibility that the Kansas Kansas state winner
finds their way to Arlington. That's my

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hot take this week. I'm not
saying it's gonna happen, but I think

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it's too early to count out the
Jayhawks. A Wildcats either won the winner

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of that game, uh still alive
and well to get to Arlington. That's

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my hot take this week. Could
we see a ku ou rematch or maybe

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a k State gets to laugh?
I mean case State gets the laugh last

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last laugh against Ou. Wouldn't bet
not honestly, as much as I'd love

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to see ku Wouldn't it be very
fitting if k State got to play Ou

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in the last big TRILD championship and
got him right one more time they tried

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to avoid him on the schedule,
and then they still meet up one more

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time. They said nay, yeah, they they were like, all right,

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just kidding, maybe we'll see you
in Arlington. Here's my biggest worry

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as an Oklahoma State fan and and
just just from like an anxiety standpoint.

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Supposedly supposed to be at Bedlam on
Saturday, and the time that we're taping

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this, this is ten o'clock on
a Thursday. I have to work all

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day tomorrow, which would mean I
would have to leave after work or very

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early on Saturday and have a ticket
to do so. I think that if

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Oklahoma State beats OHU, which I
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OHU was kind of eliminated one they
led lost to Kansas. As long as

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Texas you know, or Kansas State
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But if something happens where like let's
say like k State beats Texas and

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something happens, there's five way tie
for first. Right now, anything can

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happen. I'm going to tell you
right now on the date of So this

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is a second kind of a hot
Yeah, you can call this the hot

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tech November two, twenty twenty three. If there is a script in college

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football with what is happening with OHU
and Oklahoma State in Bedlam being the last

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one, supposedly, if there is
a script in college football, it will

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be bedlam in Arlington, m They
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in Arlington. That's my that's my
script. If that happens, you can

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call it collusion, you can call
it whatever you want to call it.

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And you know, our our buddy
Bretton McMurphy thinks that from his college Bowl

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predictions, thinks that, oh,
you, you will lose to Oklahoma State

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this weekend and be interesting to see. I mean, there's this, this

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is the biggest week in the Big
twelve. Everybody's speared up perfectly. I

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don't trust Brett McMurphy because he projected
Texas Tech to go to the Big Twelve

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title gain at the beginning of the
season. I mean, you know,

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Tom lugen Tom lougan Bill has projected
Texas in the Big Twelve Championship for it

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seems like thirty years. So if
you don't trust Brett, you can't trust

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Tom Lugenbill either. Uh. The
worst was when uh Jojo Joey Gallaway picked

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Baylor to win the league and they
won one game that year that that was

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the Yeah, yeah, that's an
all time ball drop. That one took

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the cake. Now out of conspiracy
theory land and back to reality for a

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second. The thing that I think
everybody's watching for as far as what could

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you know, shake things up besides
the obvious of Oklahoma losing to Oklahoma State

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this week, Really it's what goes
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Here's what Texas has to finish here
KSE State this week, then at TCU

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at Iowa State, and then Texas
Tech on Black Friday to finish off the

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season. All four of those games, Texas will be favored. They should,

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in theory, win all four of
those games. We don't know when

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quinn Ewers is coming back. Malik
Murphy looked good enough last week. It

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didn't look bad, but it didn't
look great. But I would expect improvement

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week by week with malink Murphy there. But you also have to think about

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this too. Every team is gonna
give Texas their best shot. Winning in

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Names ain't easy. Winning in Fort
Worth in easy, a very hungry Texas

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Tech team is not gonna be easy. And then K State this week.

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You know, the old adage is
if you have two quarterbacks, you don't

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have any quarterback. But it's worked
out pretty well for k State with their

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two quarterbacks. Here, what is
the game Texas is most likely to lose?

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Tom, I tend to think it's
this weekend against K State. Yeah,

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it's absolutely this week. I mean, Case State's on a tear.

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You know, our our buddy Pete
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week. It's gonna be this week, right, If it's gonna happen,

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it would be this week like any
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As Naim pick like this, this
is the week that you pick against Texas

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And this is you know, what
do they say? This is the word

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champions are made Texas. Everybody you
the great thing for Texas, As much

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as I hate to say it,
They're not playing in Manhattan, They're playing

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in Austin. It's an early game. You don't go to to Manhattan and

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at night in the middle of fucking
nowhere. Kansas, you're at home.

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You've got a little bit of hype
behind you. You can do this.

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I feel like I wouldn't even call
it at this point. You can't even

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call it a trap game. Oh
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Yeah, it's not true. I
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s U. I would rather play
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this point because of their struggle with
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I mean K State has become a
whole new team since losing to O s

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U. The same way OSHU has
become a whole new team losing since losing

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an Iowa State. You know,
so, so I think they could lose

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this week. I'd say I'm gonna
give sixty forty to Texas right now on

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winning out right, I think Texas
wins, But I do think this is

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gonna be their toughest challenge this is
the most likely scenario of them losing the

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next four is this one here against
K State. We'll see how so with

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with the odds. But that being
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most likely scenario, you're gonna say, you're you're locking in Texas in

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the Big Total Championship. I'm not
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would still say eighty twenty. I
would say Texas has about a seventy percent

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chance to make the Patrol title game
right now, seventy thirty. What about

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OSU OSU? I'd put it in
about a twenty five percent chance. So

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you're thinking, so you're you're saying
you're giving Texas is seventy thirty and OU

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is seventy five twenty five. Uh, well, ou'se loss I'm giving.

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I put OU's about the same as
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yeah, like seventy so oh you
will be the one seed or anybody at

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that point, it really doesn't matter. So all right, enough numbers,

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Enough with the numbers, move on, move on. Seventy thirty OU Texas

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and your with the numbers, move
on to this week. Let's go through

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the slate. Uh, Texas Tech
just beat TCU thirty five to twenty eight.

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Texas Tech. I gotta tell you
this quarterback is a different Uh.

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You know, Morton looks really good. The other night. They're four and

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five. Now Texas Texas Tech.
Uh, you get Kansas next week,

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you get a UCF after that in
Texas any of those three teams, I

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would not want to be playing Texas
Tech right now with Morton figuring it out.

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Yeah, Morton, I think before
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I think the reason for the Tech
hype was because of Morton, right,

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and he got hurt in in Obviously, Joey maguire is not that great

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at uh was their opening day starter. I mean that's true too, but

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he's you know, he didn't do
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Morton what last year against Oklahoma State
played kind of impeccable and what Morton is

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a sophomore. I think he you
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that team that had the the rotating
almost like a coaching carousel, but for

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quarterback and in terms of how that
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So, you know, does Texas
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think they can win on more at
least I would lean towards No, I

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think they'll beat you see yah,
But I don't see them beating Texas or

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Kansas. But it's not impossible.
But they can. I mean, I

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think with the I only say that
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now. I know they take some
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of the number of teams that don't
ball games. Yeah, but it also

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comes down to like great point average
and stuff like that. I'm not factoring

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that in right now. But yeah, Texas Tech is trash in terms of

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academics. I did not say that, now, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

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Yeah, they're all stupid out and
fucking love it. Hey, I

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know, O s u ohe you
the last Bedlam Ever. I wouldn't say

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it ever, it's the last Bedlum
for now. We'll put it out one

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yeah for your twenties. Yeah,
you're probably right, the last bed Lim

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until Oklahoma State comes calling and says
we need to play this game because okay,

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all right, it's gonna be a
while before these two teams meet again.

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You know, it's I'll say this, it's a sad thing that this

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has to come to an end.
Oklahoma, you know, made their bed

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and they had to live with it. You know, this is the decision.

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They may go to the SEC.
No one else's fault to blame but

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Oklahoma for this game not going forward. I mean, yeah, you can't

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blame OSU for doing it. Osues
just kind of saying, well, you

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guys, exactly what you said in
Major bed o ISHU and and for o

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ISU, good for them, like
you do not cater to older brother.

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I do think eventually it will.
It will. I'm back because it will

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get to a point where Okalhoma State
needs this game. So you think it'll

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come back before oh you Nebraska ever
came back. I don't think oh your

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Nebraska is ever coming back as an
annual series. Well, I'm saying,

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like they'll meet again. You like, what would you give it? Like

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you say, because I mean because
OSU has the the non consc scheduled out

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for like at least probably like eight
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is it a decade? You think
it's a decade or less? If not

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including like bowl games, doing research
on this and the earliest they can make

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it an annual series again, it's
like twenty thirty seven. Oh my gosh,

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I'll be old as balls, so
it'd be a long time. It's

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unfortunate this is coming to an end. You know, it's been a I

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know that the record shows it being
very lobsided in Oklahoma's direction. I understand

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that, but that's not indicative of
how fun this game typically is. This

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is one of the you know games
that everyone has circled that's usually exciting up

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and down a lot of points.
You know, my, my, my

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favorite bedroom games usually the ones in
still Water. Usually that's the better atmosphere.

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And and you know the one,
the one bedroom game I've been to

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was in still Water, and you're
just incredible to see that place firsthand.

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You're saying still Water is a better
environment than Norman. Yes, when both

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teams are like full capacity, you
know, full stand. I just wanted

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it on record. I'm sorry,
all right, Can I get a word

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in please? No? Not on
this game. I think when I when

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I look at this, it's it's
been incredible to see these two teams over

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the years and just the memories that
have been made, and you know how

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fun this rivalry has been. When
I look at this matchup, you know,

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Oli Gordon is going to be up
and special to watch, and Canny

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go off like he's done the last
few weeks, That to me is gonna

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be something to follow. Will Dylan
Gabriell bounced back after the struggling performance he

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had last week when he didn't have
a passing touchdown, That'll be something to

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follow here. And then you know
who is gonna flinch first, Who's gonna

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make the mistakes? You know we've
seen in the past where Mike Gundy made

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dumb decisions in this game, or
maybe it was a key turnover that went

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won directions to determine, you know, how this game ultimately played out.

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For me, I think Oklahoma is
the better team than Oklahoma State is,

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but nobody should be surprised if Oklahoma
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if they insert their will and Ollie
Gordon goes off and they win this

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football game. Oklahoma hasn't been really
the same team since the Texas game,

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and I'll say this the reason why
I have Oklahoma winning this game. I

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do think that, you know,
historically speaking, we've seen Oklahoma do a

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really good job of bouncing back off
the losses and the way they stepped up

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in that Texas game. You know
it meant something. Right last year we

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saw against Oklahoma State. They were
an underdog in that game and they came

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with their best foot forward bred Vinnibles. Say, what do you want about

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him? He's done a good job
in his short time in these big games

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of sorts and stepping up for the
moment. I'll go with Oklahoma. But

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I think we're in for a truth
in this one. And those guys I'm

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watching for Tom it's Atley Gordon and
it's Dylan Gabriel, who's gonna show out?

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What what are you watching for here? I mean yeah, I think

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we're all watching for Ali Gordon,
Like what what is the And I'm interested

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in what you have to say as
a non Well, you're obviously biased.

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You're a gooner, but at the
same time, you're a little less gooner

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than the rest of them. I
will say that, because if you're gonna

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call me a gooner, you gotta
call me a cowboy too. Oh no,

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no, you're a gooner. But
we talked about alcohol State rooted rooted

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for your Jayhawks obviously last week,
and I shared that win with you,

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and I'm so happy for you.
And I know how you. I know

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how your dad. You and your
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you're you're a Jayhawk first. But
at the same and it would it would

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probably benefit your Jayhawks if oh you
lost. Oh yes, it would benefit

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them heavily actually, But at the
same time, at the same time,

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I know your gooner at Hart,
but Billy knows that too. If here's

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my ultimatum for you, and I
only say this as a hypothetical and just

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to see how you react. If
Olie Gordon has two hundred or one hundred

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and ninety nine yards rushing, who
wins? If he has two hundred plus

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yards rushing, who wins? As
one fifty Oklahoma State wins? You really,

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really, absolutely I'd be I mean, I do you think? Here's

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my thing? Because I know how
ou plays against os U. I think,

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oh, you is going to stack
the fucking box. And I think,

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and you know, if if Brett
Vnables is worth a damn he will

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stack them stack the box and he'll
make Alan Bowman win Bedlam that Honestly,

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this is what every team that's played
OSU should have been doing this year.

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Make allan Bowman beat you like take. Yeah, it's been not the easiest

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game plan in the country. I
can't believe nobody's figured that out of it

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point like, why didn't k State
do that? Why didn't West Virginia,

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Like, I'll take my chances if
if if you beat me with Alan Bowman,

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get on you, like, I'll
shake your fucking hand like that.

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That should be the game plan that
that should be yet and that's what I

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haven't I haven't seen. I haven't
seen anything saying that Stuntsman's going to be

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out, you know, And and
if Stuntsman's not going to be out,

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well, that's a huge plus for
your chances. Just be I think Stuntsman's

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a great player. I think he
is a early second round pick and at

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worst maybe a first third round pick
at work. It can be true,

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though Tom Stuntsman is a great player, But the middle linebacker position is the

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most overrated position on the football field. That's true, but he's I think

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he could play any position. But
just from his leadership that I've seen,

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he communicates very well. And I
hate I hate talking good about the know

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you player, I really do.
I hope I don't think you're wrong,

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But off ball linebacker is the easiest
position to replace. You think you think

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his worst his worst draft spot would
be late fifth round. Yeah, something

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like that. I'm not exactly sure, because you know, off ball linebacker

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is always going to be you know, I mean you looked at who's the

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charger linebacker that played for OU with
Murray? Yeah, he was the last

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mittal linebacker. What he went third
round, fourth round? He was the

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first round pick and he was way
over valued. Yeah, and then you

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had really since that draft class that
had o'roonco see left outside linebacker Obo Ironco.

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He was an edge rusher. Yeah, that's he played. I guess

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he played linebacker for RAMS. But
I mean yeah, like but if you

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but in terms of bedlam, in
terms of college football, if you don't

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have Danny Stuntzman the way that OU
seems to rely on him, and you

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could see that it was a little
bit evident when he went out in the

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second half against Ku, Well,
I mean you say that, I mean

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we were listening to Bennetti. I'm
not taking away anything about Ku because Ku

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Lance Leopold played the way he did
things. He controlled the game well better

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than Mike Gandi Rock you wered and
Jason Bennett he pointed out the broadcast.

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I think the kid's name Lewis that
stepped up from him was doing it really

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bad. They were, they were
giving him a lot of credit saying he

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was doing a really good job.
I'm not so worried about whether Stumpsman plays

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or not. I think I think
Oklahoma wins, but I think we're in

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for a very good game on Saturday
between those. Do they cover? I

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think so? I think you know, a late touchdown, you know you're

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talking. I think less than less
than ten. Yeah, I think it's

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about seven point win for a you
barely covering? Is what is six?

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Right now? Houston and Baylor both
teams at three and five. This game

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just looks disgusting to me. But
I think Houston's offense is a little bit

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better than Baylor's. Alan lean towards
Houston to go get the job done in

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Waco. There, Oh, really
interesting it is in Waco. What time

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is that game? It's a two
thirty kick? Yeah you mentioned that if

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Houston wins, because I think it
is a little toss up game because like,

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what have we come to see?
Baylor in my eyes, is a

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lot like Tech so far. I
think a tech has looked a little bit

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better than Baylor. I mean a
little biased. It won tonight against TCU,

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But I mean, Sonny Dykes is
in his sophomore slump a little bit.

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But you look at Dave Randa.
We've given him so much praise.

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How much is the longevity with David
David Randa's fraud And you think so?

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Do you think it's like so we
heard about potential fraud. Could other than

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Jimbo Fisher. Dave Randa is the
biggest fraud in college football? Buddy,

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David think he could? Do you
think he could leave? Who would want

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him? I mean, where do
you think he would go? Who would

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want him? Like, he's not
going to get a job better than Baylor

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right now. I mean Mike Gundhy
was wanted by Tennessee for a long time.

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Mike Gundhy actually had success. David
Randa's got I mean, David Randa

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and Mike Gundy have pretty much like
in the last ten years, the same

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number of Big Twelve championships. I
would not hire Dave Randa for anything.

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I went two years ago, two
years ago, they were singing fucking Jesus

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praise for Dave Randa. I never
bought into it. I never bought into

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David Randa. He's a fraud.
So you would you take Matt Campbell immediately

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over Dave Randa. I'm not as
much so much a believer in Matt Campbell

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eating I take I take Chris Climban
over both of them in a heartbeat.

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Okay, that's fair, that's fair. I like I think Chris Climbing Like

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if I could compare k State to
any NFL team, they seem like the

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Detroit Lions. I don't know,
I haven't I haven't determined what Baylor feels

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like, and I haven't determined what
Iowa State feels like. But to me,

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you know, KSE State feels like
the Jared goff led Detroit Lions.

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That's how I feel about k State. So you got Baylor this week?

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You're taking that fraud David Randon.
What's the line? It's three for Baylor,

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so it's a toss up because they're
at home. So what you got?

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And Dana, you know, I
don't feel to take I have to

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take a line. Just take a
team who you got winning? If there's

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no line, straight up, I'm
taking Baylor. Okay. Uh, I

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wouldn't touch money with this. Okay, we get the point. You see,

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if in Cincinnati you see a three
and a half, wint favorite game

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is in since the two and six, you see f three and five,

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both of these teams stink bad.
Since he is a joke Scott Sadderfield,

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I wouldn't even call him a fraud
because he was never was. Uh you

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know, you never even got a
chance to be a fraud, right,

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Gus smells on like they're showing some
flashes. I would at least say,

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you know, Plumbing is a decent
quarterback. They got some weapons there,

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they're they're they're taking their lumps as
they transition to Big twelve. I like

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Gus and I would say, when
you even factor in the new Big twelve

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members, Tom, you see f
you could outside of Utah probably has the

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brightest future. I mean yeah,
I mean they have that. I mean

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they have the that area on lock
in terms of like hey now we're power

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five. Yeah you want to come
here? You want you want to come

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here and start or do you want
to go to Auburn in like wait two

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years and they're gonna make more in
TV revenue than Florida State and Miami are

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like they're a legit powerhouse program.
Watch out for you say they should win

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their big jump. I think is
gonna be next year we'll talk about UCF

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competing for potentially for a conference title. There was more like eight wins b

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YU in West Virginia, both teams
at five and three, both teams fighting

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for both eligibility. B YU has
been on a downward spiral ass of late

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West Virginia. Uh man, after
everything that's going on, they're one went

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away from being both eligible here and
Neil Brown might live to see another day.

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Like this is my hell here of
Neil Brown getting to stick around in

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West Virginia. Like, I don't
see them losing to b YU. I

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hate admitted, but I think West
Virginia finds to get it done, become

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bow elgebra and they're all the way
in Morgantown like b why used halfway across

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the country. They didn't press last
week. I thought they could maybe hold

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their own a little bit and they
really couldn't. And uh, I don't

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think it's gonna change this week.
I like West Virginia. Kay, you

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take it on. Iowa State Night
Gaming aims Iowa stayed much better than any

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of us. Anticipated credit to Matt
Campbell. He's doing a good job at

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five and three, Ku had six
and two. Tom just being realistic here.

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I am very concerned about a letdown
game. The emotional high out of

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eating Oklahoma last week and how special
that was, and everybody telling this Kansas

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team how great they are and rushing
the field and putting you know, the

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goalposts and Potter's Lake and everything.
You know, how big of a deal

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that was. That was all cool
and all, but now you go into

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Ames for a night game. Jason
Bean, to his credit, made some

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big plays on you know, last
week down the stretch, but he still

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threw two interceptions. I'm still not
at a point no offense. I'm rooting

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on Jason Bean. I wish him
nothing but the best, but I can't

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trust him like I would Jaylen Daniels, Jalen Daniels, you can win.

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You can go in any week and
convince yourself you have a shot. I

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am very concerned that a Jason Bean
mistake or two is gonna be what cost

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Kansas this game. A night game
in aims like Iowa States favored and by

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two and a half, and I
just do not feel good about this game.

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On Saturday night. I feel like, Kay, you can win,

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but I'm not confident at all.
Yeah, I feel like, K,

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you can win too, but I
would not touch this game with money.

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For one, you mentioned it,
K, you can potentially come off for

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like a hangover type game, and
I don't want to touch that. Another

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reason, night game and aims.
I've been there, done that, and

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I refuse to even look at that
in terms of making money. Yeah,

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I know better. Let's tell you
a look at college ball playoff rankings.

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Here first poll that just got released, five Big twelve teams in the top

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twenty five. Texas the first team
ranked at seven, Oklahoma at nine,

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KU at twenty one, Oklahoma State
at twenty two, k State at twenty

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three. As far as the Big
twelve teams go, Tom the committee,

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I guess, just doesn't care about
head to head Like why do we even

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play the head to head games?
I mean, Oklahoma's behind Texas, Kansas

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is in front of Oklahoma State.
How does any of this make any sense?

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I think the committee did their job
when it came to the top four

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Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan,
Florida State. I have no problem with

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that. Washington five Oregon six.
That all sounds right, And at the

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end of the day, the committee's
top job is to get the top four

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right. That's what they're there for. They're not there for the other rankings.

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The committee did what they're supposed to
do with their main assignment. But

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the rest of Paul like we're the
big twelve teams are ranked here, it's

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just out of whack. I mean, yeah, I think I think Texas

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deserves it. And you know,
when you think about you know, Ohio

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State in Michigan, you know you
can rank them however you want to.

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Eventually it's going to sort itself out. So that's fine. You know,

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I think you have Georgia versus Missoo
this week. Yeah, you know,

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I've seen how you picked. I
know how I picked fifteen and a half

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a little big for me, and
if it was if it was in Columbia,

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I'd be way more active to pick
Missoo to to get the job done

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at least to cover. But Perst
and Beck looks better. I think Georgia

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is gonna run them out of the
building. The Missoo, I feel like,

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has the same feel that k State
at Texas has. I mean,

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I'm not putting by Georgia. I'm
not putting Georgia on upset alert give a

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better chance of beating Texas than Missoo
to beat Georgia. Yeah, no,

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that's fair. But I don't want
to take away from what Missoo has done

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so far. Missoo has looked good. They haven't played anybody, They're not

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Who would you pick? And how
I know? I can't ask you that

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question. I can't say if you
pick Missoo ku on the neutral site being

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it has a lot to do because
I don't have it, don't. I

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don't have any feelings towards Missoo and
it has nothing to do with anything.

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Oh it does. It's irrelevant to
this conversation. Your miszoo is like my

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ou. I would pick against OU
the second I got a chance. Miszoo

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is nothing them in Kansas is irrelevant
with this conversation. It's not. It's

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really not. It really is.
It's really not like your miszoo is like

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me asking about It's me like picking
ou Ohio state at number one, Georgia

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to Michigan at three, Florida state
at four. I think all that's right,

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Washington at five. That to me
down there the lowest ranked undefeated,

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that number five spot. I'm starting
to think after that game against Oregon that

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Washington's kind of getting exposed, like
they might lose the USC this league or

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sometime soon. Like I know Oregon
beata they beat Oregon, but if they

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rematch, like, I think Oregon's
probably the better team and would beat them

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head to head. So you're not
you're not a fan of Pennis. I

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didn't say I wasn't a fan of
Penis. I mean, like you don't

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think you get the job done,
like you're saying bow Knicks. I don't

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like bow Knicks. I like Pennis, but I think Oregon is probably the

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better team around them. Pennis hasn't
played great the last couple of weeks.

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That's fair, that's fair, But
I think I like that team that Oregon

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has more around it. They look
like more a complete team than what Washington

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is. If they mean it's Oregon, Oregon, Oregon, Washington in the

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PAC twelve Championship, you're taking Oregon, I would, I think right now,

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if I were to guess how the
playoff is going to play out,

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00:34:54,280 --> 00:35:04,440
I think we see Michigan gets in
as an undefeated. I think Georgia gets

406
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:12,760
in as an undefeated Florida State gets
in as an undefeated pair. That leaves

407
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:23,320
one more spot, and I think
at that point you have a choice a

408
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:30,400
one loss Oregon Pac twelfth champ or
a one loss Ohio State as a non

409
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:36,639
Big ten champ for that final spot. Do you go Ohio State, who's

410
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:39,559
got the non con win against Notre
Dame, Or do you go the one

411
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:45,039
loss Oregon who doesn't have the non
conference but did it was a conference champion.

412
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:52,519
I think I leaned towards Oregon because
they would have then got to win

413
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:59,719
over Washington. You resurrected themselves from
their previous loss. Su're saying, but

414
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:07,599
actile a one lost Texas against a
good OU team. I think Texas is

415
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:10,960
going to slip up somewhere. I
think the Big twelve champion will be a

416
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,400
two loss team. So you're thinking, you're thinking Big Total champ is going

417
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:22,599
to the Cotton or the Beach Bowl, and then the second place Big twelve

418
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:27,320
team ends up in the Alima Bow. Third place. No, no,

419
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,599
no, I think that the Big
twelve problems still have to New Year's six

420
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:36,920
ball teams. Oh, so you
think Cotton and Peach I don't care about

421
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,039
those balls though, I mean,
I mean, but looking at the playoff,

422
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:44,800
we're focused on the playoff here,
stay focused on Well, no,

423
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,559
I'm saying like, you don't think
you don't think Texas worry about that.

424
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,400
I don't worry about that. My
top four is Ohio State. Who I

425
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:58,480
think it's going to play out?
I got Michigan, Florida State, Georgia,

426
00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:00,239
and Oregon. I think it's gonna
be your final four when it's all

427
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:05,639
said and done. Who do you
think is gonna be the file four when

428
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:08,000
it's all said and done, Town, I like all of that. I

429
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:15,000
will just I would just trade Texas. I mean, I say that it

430
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:23,559
isn't align with I picked this week
because I picked Case State. With that

431
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:30,599
being said, I guess I'll take
I'll take Phoenix, I'll I think Washington

432
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:35,639
gets the four spot. So you
got the same three of Florida State in

433
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,960
Georgia, but Washington as the four. Where's Michigan Ohio State? What?

434
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:44,760
What stadium is that ins at Michigan? Yeah? Okay, yeah, fair,

435
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,360
yep, all right? One more? Is that game? Is that

436
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:53,480
next week? No? That's final
week of the regular season? Okay,

437
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:58,280
oh yeah, man, that's incredible. Yeah, that'll I mean, that'll

438
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:04,639
be that'll be prime. I mean, that'll be. That's that's top TV.

439
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:07,920
We know, hey listen, hey, I know, you know,

440
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:15,480
let me get let's get to what
matters here. The Big Twelve schedule for

441
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:20,440
twenty twenty three and beyond. I
thought it was odd that they only went

442
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:29,360
with four locked rivalries going forward.
Protected rivalries include Kuk States. You also

443
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:36,079
are going to have Utah and BYU
as one of them, Arizona and Arizona

444
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:45,960
State as another, and then the
last one among the Big twelve protections.

445
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:53,280
As I pulled this up in real
time protected rivalries anyways, there's only four

446
00:38:53,320 --> 00:39:00,599
of them. I was surprised that
we didn't see Kate Iowa States a protected

447
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:07,199
rivalry. Didn't see or TC used
Baylor's the other. I'm surprised that Texas

448
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:13,920
Tech and OLSU didn't get protected rivals. Kind of bizarre that it played out

449
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,400
this way. I mean, you
know, k State and Iowa State had

450
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,920
been playing each other every year for
one hundred years, and they're not gonna

451
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,360
play each other every year all of
a sudden. That that to me surprised

452
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:30,119
me. Oh, I mean yeah, like how can you not keep Farmageddon?

453
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,519
And we've seen a lot, at
least from what I've seen, a

454
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:39,199
lot of pushback, a lot of
well you know, when you gotta contact

455
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:45,679
the office and they'll from what I
understand, they'll play till they'll play this

456
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:52,119
year. They'll play twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, and twenty twenty

457
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:58,400
six, but it'll stop in twenty
twenty seven. You give that leniency a

458
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,800
little bit of time depending on how
the you know, the the robbery goes

459
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:07,800
and what happens if it's close,
if it's a blowing or whatever. I

460
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:15,199
think that Farmageddon is the best robbery
maybe to be saved. Like OSU Texas

461
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:20,320
Tech. You could say that's a
robbery, but it's not didn't have the

462
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:27,039
history as Farmageddon. Like it's gotta
be Farmageddon, that's gotta be saved if

463
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:30,039
you had to pick one, right, Yeah, And you know, with

464
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,199
all the uproar about that, I
will say, there's one thing, there's

465
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,760
still time for this to be saved, because I do think the ACC will

466
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:45,119
blow up before the end of this
schedule matrix, and with new ACC members

467
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:49,880
coming in, then maybe we could
salvage and still have Farmageddon continue. But

468
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:52,719
uh yeah, it was bizarre.
I mean you're seeing most of these leagues,

469
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,960
like the ACC for example, seventeen
team league, they got sixteen protected

470
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,800
rivalry. Incredible, they could have
done it. The Big Ten going to

471
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:10,559
eighteen teams has twelve protected rivalries.
So it just seemed kind of bizarre that

472
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:15,480
they would go this route and do
that. I will say I am intrigued,

473
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:17,639
Like I love the idea of k
you playing at Arizona State and making

474
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:23,199
that trip to Phoenix and you see
body Will Scott he'll be gone by then.

475
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:29,079
Well man, maybe he might end
up in Phoenix. He'll be gone

476
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:34,840
by then. That besides the point
I gotta say, like it's going to

477
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,679
be it's gonna feel like non conference
games expanded of sorts. Like it's almost

478
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:46,800
gonna these new members within the unfamiliarity
and not much history. It feels like

479
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,320
an expanded non cotton schedule to next
ting. I mean it does like did

480
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,800
OSU or OU play in West Virginia
for the first time That felt like last

481
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:04,719
week Oklahoma's take place since and they
fuck them? It felt a little non

482
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,719
conferency, but it's still like maybe
not right, like okay, so oh

483
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:20,039
u UCF felt I mean, I
felt like Oklahoma State versus Cincinnati felt more

484
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:24,559
non con than oh U UCF.
And maybe because Dylan Gabriel used to play

485
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:30,519
for UCF, that's probably the reason. But I do get that. I

486
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:35,840
think a lot of these things and
when you when you mess with conference realignment,

487
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,960
I think that doesn't only go for
the Big Twelve. I think that

488
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:45,199
goes for everybody that like these kind
of weirder matchups feel almost like bowl games

489
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:50,599
in a way. They don't share
the same significance, but it still lends

490
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:57,280
itself to the oh, this is
a bowl game. It If I had

491
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,480
to redo the Big Twelve schedule format, I would have gone to a pod

492
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:05,599
system like this, where four pod
I agree. Here's my pods here,

493
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:09,960
Utah, MEHYU, Arizona and Arizona
State in one pod. That's clear,

494
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,280
Colorado, Kansas, Kansas State,
and Oklahoma State in another. And then

495
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,719
I'd have the Texas pod. It'd
be Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor in

496
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:27,239
Houston. And then I'd have Iowa
State, Cincinnati, West Virginia, and

497
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,719
you see F and the other.
You play everybody in your pot every year,

498
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,079
and then you go play certain teams
you fill up your rest schedule after

499
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:39,960
that, poor close. I agree
to a certain extent, I would take

500
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:46,039
the four corner schools and the four
pod What about they can't be they can't

501
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:50,159
not be in the same pot as
Utah. Well no, I'm saying,

502
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,559
well, okay, yeah, So
I'd take Utah, Arizona, Arizona State,

503
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:01,920
and b YU Okay, and then
I would take Colorado and Iowa State

504
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:07,880
and KU and k State, And
then I would take Oklahoma State, and

505
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:15,960
I would take Baylor TCU in Houston. What about Texas time? Uh,

506
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:21,679
trying to think. Sorry, I'm
sure I should look at a map.

507
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,559
So so you got you got?
Sorry, I looked like a bitch.

508
00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:34,960
But b y U, Arizona,
Arizona State, and Utah. That's one

509
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:43,119
pod. And then you've got K
State, KU, Colorado, Iowa State.

510
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:52,599
That's two pods. And then you've
got Oklahoma State, Baylor TCU in

511
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:58,360
Houston, and that's one pod.
And then you've got UCF West Virginia,

512
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:09,000
Uh, UCF Virginia, Cincinnati,
Cincinnati, and Texas Tech. I guess

513
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:14,559
yeah, So why are you sending
Texas Tech away from everybody else? Hey?

514
00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:19,400
Because fuck Tech? No? I
mean, I'm trying to figure it

515
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:25,159
out, Like I mean Colorado.
If Colorado is obviously the outside in in

516
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:30,800
terms of the like the West schools, and in terms of latitude, they're

517
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:39,320
probably a lot more equal to k
u K State and Iowa State in terms

518
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,920
of like lat letting Tom control the
schedule here, he's not gonna be taking

519
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,039
I mean, okay, so where
would you put O s U. You're

520
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:52,480
gonna put O s U with a
u K State and Iowa State. Yeah,

521
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:57,719
they played in the year one hundred
years. I mean yeah, I

522
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,719
get that. But like I'm like, okay, oh, Colahoma State is

523
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:07,760
closer to Texas than Iowa State.
Like so like you put Iowa State,

524
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:19,400
UCF Cincinnati like Iowa State Kansas.
Kansas State and Oklahoma State have been at

525
00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:24,400
joined at the for ae hundred years. I mean, yeah they have.

526
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,280
But I'm trying to make it work
the most sence, Like Oklahoma State is

527
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:38,079
more south than the Kansas schools could
ever be. Like it doesn't, it

528
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:45,960
doesn't fit like Cincinnati, like Cincinnati, and West Virginia is the closest game

529
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:50,400
that West Virginia could have in terms
of a road game, and I think

530
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:54,840
West Virginia has been on board for
so long that they should They should play

531
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:01,079
Cincinnati every single year and might as
well be fucking pit. Yeah, like

532
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,559
it might as well be the new
Pit. Like you have to pair those

533
00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:07,960
two schools up. All right,
Moving on, Nick Cousins sent to join.

534
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,760
Let's coming up just a moment.
We're not gonna let Tom control the

535
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,519
schedule. Don't worry about that.
It's not yet. We won't. It

536
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:17,519
wouldn't. It would be worse than
even if you don't like this schedule the

537
00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:21,800
way it is. Don't let Tom
be in charge. Call me, Brett.

538
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,679
We're gonna talk to Nick Cousin.
Coming up in a moment. Stay

539
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:30,920
tuned for that. Right here on
the Jones Support join us now the program

540
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:38,000
this week. Very excited to bring
in from w HBFTV and Davenport, Iowa.

541
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:44,280
It is our good friend Nick Cousin
who makes his trumphant return once again.

542
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,480
Mike k you brethren, one of
my favorite guys out there. He's

543
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:54,079
risking it all and he joins us
right now. Cousin, always good to

544
00:47:54,119 --> 00:47:58,360
talk, my friend. How we
do it? Hey, I'm just I

545
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,239
just keep doing that reoccurring guest for
you whenever you need me. I'm here

546
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:06,239
for you. Hey, always pleasure
anytime we get the chance to chat.

547
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,159
Matt. What's what's going on these
days in Devonport? Uh? Yeah,

548
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:13,920
it's that busy time and it's uh, you know, a crossover season,

549
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,239
you know how it is. Football's
you know, coming to an end some

550
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:23,400
some places and basketball starting up.
So I'm everywhere doing everything right now.

551
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,039
I love it. I love it. All is good in your world there

552
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:31,960
in a Davenport. I'm sure it's
uh, it's a lot of It feels

553
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,119
a lot better than your day's in
Fargo. Oh yeah, I mean we

554
00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:39,800
talked about that earlier. I mean
it's already snow It's already snowing in Fargo.

555
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:45,239
I'm just sitting here. It's fifty
five degrees. I got my windows

556
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,039
open, have a nice little breeze
coming in. Feels pretty good out here.

557
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,159
Is Iowa nice? A real thing? Is that legit? Have you

558
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,519
had a pleasant experience with your time
there in Devonport? Oh? Yeah,

559
00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:00,519
I mean there's a two. I
mean, you know, i Ioa is

560
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:04,880
very nice and chill when it has
its own Twitter account called Iowa Chill.

561
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:08,679
I mean, you gotta you gotta
look this up. Tyler down Iowa chill,

562
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:15,559
and it's pretty much the same Twitter
account as like everything Midwest Midwesterners say.

563
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:19,920
It's very like, oh, you
know, it's okay, but it's

564
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,119
really not okay, you know,
stuff like that, right, Or it's

565
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,079
uh, it's not the heat,
it's the humidity. You know, there's

566
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,440
some things. If it wasn't so
windy, it'd be a little warmer,

567
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:37,360
right right. Have you had your
fair share since you moved Iowa of bush

568
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,199
Light and Casey's speaker these days?
Oh, bush Light is Iowa water.

569
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:45,880
I mean, you go to the
bar and you say, I want some

570
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,840
Iowa water, They're giving you bush
Light. That is the that is the

571
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:58,679
beer of choice in this state.
Oh man. Also, because I'm very

572
00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:00,159
I'm gonna stick with from my pizza, you know, being from Chicago,

573
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:06,039
it's deep dish or nothing. I
mean, you can't find deep dish everywhere

574
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:09,119
though, true, but I mean
it makes that much better when I go

575
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:15,440
back to Chicago. Yeah, I
will say though, By the way,

576
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:17,360
I gotta get this out of the
way because you know, for folks listening

577
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,599
like this is the part where Nick
and I just need to catch up on

578
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,199
life and things and then we'll give
to the business of the day A bit.

579
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:29,079
I gotta say. Since I last
spoke to you, I've tried a

580
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:34,360
couple more Chicago pizzas and I have
a new favorite now I am. I

581
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,559
am an Uno man. Now,
okay, I'm cool with that, as

582
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:44,480
long as you don't say Giordano's,
We're good. I like Giordano's better than

583
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:50,639
lum Alinati's, but Uno is is
str right Now, Okay, I disagree

584
00:50:50,679 --> 00:50:52,440
with you on that statement, but
I will give you Uno as like a

585
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:59,280
number two. There was a place
I tried by Wrigley that was very good,

586
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:05,039
kind of a mom and pop plaice
of sorts that that that that's that's

587
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:07,239
also another way to go, like
you have to go to the mom and

588
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,119
pop places like the reason like Luma
Nadis and Joe Donald's and all of them

589
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:14,960
have fallen off is because, just
like a lot of other things in this

590
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,679
world, they're selling their lives to
corporate so now they are like very mainstream

591
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,960
and it's not as good anymore.
Okay, very interesting, uh pizza.

592
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,880
You can go to Arizona, like
when you go visit, you know,

593
00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:30,639
justin Yeah, you can get I
Lluma Nati's pizza. There like, that's

594
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:35,039
tell me that's right? Like that
shouldn't be right. Oh yeah, when

595
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:38,199
I was in Vegas, there's a
lu mal Andai's right there on the strip.

596
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:43,960
See that's that's that's terrible. Donald's
rather, Yeah, that's a mom

597
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,079
that's those are mom and pop operations. They should not be in Vagas.

598
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:51,480
Okay. Uh so you've heard it
first. No Deep Dish pizza for the

599
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,519
rest of us. They got to
save it for all the Chicago people.

600
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:59,039
I see how it is Chicago.
It's that easy. Okay. With that

601
00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:02,000
said, let's let's move on.
And I gotta ask you, it was

602
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:07,679
a big weekend for our Hawks with
getting that win over Oklahoma. What was

603
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:15,199
your initial reaction everything went down and
seeing kau pull off their first UH win

604
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:20,320
against a top ten team there since
nineteen eighty four. Well, it was

605
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,960
a great start. They really got
me into it when they went up fourteen

606
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:28,079
to nothing, and then when you
saw it slowly kind of slip away,

607
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:30,079
you're like, oh, no,
like, is this gonna be like how

608
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:34,239
last year was where you start five
to one and then you finished six and

609
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:40,039
six. But Jason Bean, despite
all the inconsistencies that he has, he

610
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:46,000
showed that he's capable of coming out
on top. It's like with me,

611
00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:49,840
it's like, you know, it's
like a roller coaster with Jason Bean.

612
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,119
I mean, one time you see
him singing it like sixty seventy yards a

613
00:52:53,159 --> 00:52:58,639
beautiful pass, and then the next
drive he's on the run, those little

614
00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:01,480
dinky pass that gets picked. I
mean, he's for me. It's just

615
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:06,559
kind of like back and forth.
I just needed to see that like consistency

616
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:08,480
from him, and maybe the fact
that he was able to just pull off

617
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,480
this win will give him that confidence
going forward, because who knows when our

618
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,920
boy Jeleen Daniels comes back. So
did Jason Bean make you a believer this

619
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:22,960
past weekend? I would say that
he since he pulled out the win,

620
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:27,039
I am more for him than I
was before. I don't want to go

621
00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:30,639
like all the way there, sure, but I will say that he's trending

622
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:34,119
in the right direction. In the
right direction, I think that's a fair

623
00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:40,440
way to put it. With that
win and seeing the celebration everything of you

624
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:45,920
know, the goalpost going in Potter's
Lake, and I couldn't help but think,

625
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:47,679
like, man, I would love
to be at the Hawk tonight.

626
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,719
Oh yeah, I mean, you
know, the Hawk was lit for sure.

627
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,079
Like can you imagine though, Like
I mean, obviously, our the

628
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:00,639
twenty eighteen Final four that we went
to no longer exists now, right,

629
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:04,920
we didn't go to San Antonio.
We didn't go to San Antonio. But

630
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,599
imagine if football was good then,
like and we went to a final four

631
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:12,719
in a bowl game like in the
same year where we were there, Like

632
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,199
imagine, Like I can't imagine how
it is there now, Like that's insane.

633
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:21,119
Yeah, So next week I'm actually
going to Lawrence Nick. What what

634
00:54:21,159 --> 00:54:24,760
do I need to like make sure
and do? Like for me, one

635
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,599
of the very first things I gotta
do is go to Soledo's and go get

636
00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:32,199
my my margin h a Rando burrito. What else do I need to do

637
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:35,639
in town next week? I mean, you took the words out of my

638
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:37,360
mouth, man, Like, I
mean, you got to go there for

639
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,360
the marks and then, I mean, but it is a little sad though,

640
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:45,000
like a lot of like the you
know, og places when we were

641
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,079
there have already closed. So that's
that's kind of it's kind of cave is

642
00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:52,039
gone now, Yeah, the cave
is gone. That was a great place.

643
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:54,760
A lot of the downtown bars we
used to go to no longer there.

644
00:54:54,840 --> 00:55:00,360
It's it's kind of sad, honestly, right. The Hawk will never

645
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,199
let us down though, but yeah, the Hawk and the Bull will always

646
00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:07,079
be there. I love that people
are just now finding out about the time

647
00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:13,360
Taylor Swift went to the Hawk.
By the way, Yep, she's one

648
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:19,440
of us, which more points for
she was in Uh, she was in

649
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,760
one of the dural journalism passes too, Like it wasn't one on one.

650
00:55:23,039 --> 00:55:29,039
Yeah, with five hundred other people. I'd give her an a in my

651
00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:35,440
book, you know, yeah,
uh in her book. Yeah, I'd

652
00:55:35,519 --> 00:55:39,760
risk it all. Uh, cousin. Uh. When you look at KU,

653
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:46,320
now this this six wins and it's
not out of the question that Kansas

654
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,719
could be in the Big twelve Tomic
game. Potentially you got Oklahoma there,

655
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,159
Oklahoma State, Texas, k State, Iowa State still hanging around. This

656
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:58,400
is pretty competitive race here in the
the Big twelve. Right now, as

657
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:02,199
we go to the the back end
of a conference play here, it's crazy

658
00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:05,920
to think, like you look at
KU's schedule and you're like, that's a

659
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,280
winnable game. That's a winnable game. I mean, when don't we be

660
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:13,239
able to said that before, Like, I mean, k State has having

661
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,320
a down year. Iowa State has
a freshman quarterback. So when you have

662
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,039
a good defense, like Kay,
you've been the last couple of weeks,

663
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:23,119
you could definitely take advantage of a
young quarterback TCU having a down year.

664
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,480
Those are some of the teams that
you have left in Cincinnati. It's their

665
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,360
first year in the Big Twelve.
So yeah, you're playing all these teams

666
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,519
that are not even great years.
So now you can really say, like,

667
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:36,440
Okay, we beat Oklahoma, Now
let's take advantage of some of these

668
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,800
teams that we should beat. When
you know no one was predicting you to

669
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:44,480
beat Oklahoma, what do you think
that win meant? To beat Oklahoma?

670
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:51,079
Like the wins against Texas were awesome, but like Kansas, we are,

671
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:55,960
you know, an actual contending team, now legitimate team and beating a top

672
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,760
six team like Oklahoma. Like I
know that, we you know, we

673
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:04,960
enjoyed those days when Kansas beat Texas
and all that, but I felt like

674
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,599
this past weekend was an even bigger
deal. Oh yeah, I mean when

675
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:09,800
you beat Texas, they want a
top ten team and you had to do

676
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,960
it in overtime. This time,
you're being a top ten team, you

677
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:22,119
have your backup quarterback, you're winning
in regulation, and you hit you hanging

678
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:24,119
around with them the whole time.
I mean literally, like that Texas game

679
00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:28,599
is just back and forth, back
and forth, like a KU at one

680
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:31,039
point was just dominating the game.
They let it slip away. But at

681
00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:35,519
one point you're thinking, wow,
like KU is coming out and they are

682
00:57:35,559 --> 00:57:39,960
ready to go. Yeah, that
rushing attack between high Sean and Devin Neal,

683
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:44,519
that's I mean, that's almost unstoppable. Oh, no question, no

684
00:57:44,679 --> 00:57:49,000
question. What do you think that
k State game is going to be?

685
00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:53,239
Like they're in Lawrence this year?
K State we mentioned they're a little bit

686
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,920
down from what they were last year, but not a bad team. KU

687
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,639
coming in at big winning and sou
obviously, is this the year that that

688
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,880
Kansas finally beats Kansas State? You
think at home for sure, and you

689
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:10,360
don't have to see that those EMA
heads going don't have to see those EMA

690
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:17,559
chance. I know you hate k
State like you despise Manhattan Wave the week,

691
00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:22,559
no Ema, none, none of
this, none of this only Wave

692
00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:27,920
the WHEK cousin. Tell me about
your your hatred for Manhattan because it runs

693
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,440
deep. Oh yeah. I mean
every time I go there, like when

694
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,159
we went there for basketball or football, I just felt like I was losing

695
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:39,519
IQ points just being there. That's
rough. I like Manhattan personally, but

696
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,920
you didn't have the most pleasant experience. I mean, you have to get

697
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,320
off the Interstate. Then you gotta
go on the county road for forty five

698
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:54,599
minutes, and then you get there. This is the this is the Chicago

699
00:58:54,639 --> 00:59:00,199
elitist coming out from you. You
need to get off interstate and be there,

700
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,039
Like, I'm not trying to go
on some country road for forty five

701
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:07,320
minutes just to get to some place. This is the big city nick coming

702
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:14,039
in YEP and in North Dakota.
I did plenty of that county road,

703
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:19,880
state road, one lane going both
ways pitch black, and I'm not doing

704
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:24,639
that again. Uh. The Big
Teub title race we mentioned with Kansas right

705
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:27,760
there in the thick of things,
they need some help to win it.

706
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,360
How do you see the Big twelve
championship hopefully plan out what matchup do we

707
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,679
get and who do you think wins
it? That's a tough one. I

708
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:38,920
mean you could see Oklahoma again in
there. I mean I know they're going

709
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:44,760
off to the SEC, and Texas
is still hanging around there as well.

710
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:49,400
But after this year, I love
the I love the new Big twelve because

711
00:59:49,639 --> 00:59:52,719
obviously Texas and Oklahoma Lee, but
then you add some of the great Pac

712
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,199
twelve institutions to the conference. And
we were talking about this with our boy

713
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:05,000
Justin Pierce at Arizona Arizona State.
You had those schools in Utah, Utah

714
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:08,400
and b yu are BYU is already
in so you just eat coast to coast.

715
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:13,840
Now, yeah, we'll give that
here a second. I want to

716
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,000
hear your prediction though, what what's
who's going to win the league? Well,

717
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:21,079
I don't want to say I don't
want to say Kansas. Okay,

718
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:27,519
I don't think Jason being is there
yet. Fair This is Jalen Daniels.

719
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:30,360
I'm saying, Okay, you have
a good chance, But sadly, I

720
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,760
think it's probably going to be oh, you were Texas and then they leave

721
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,039
for the SEC. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the unfortunate reality at

722
01:00:40,039 --> 01:00:46,639
this point. But even though Texas
quarterback got hurt, the back yeah you

723
01:00:46,719 --> 01:00:51,280
weres, you weres. Even though
he got hurt, that the backup that's

724
01:00:51,400 --> 01:01:00,119
not Manning is pretty Goodlake Murphy,
Yeah, Murphy and Dylan Gabriel. Uh,

725
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:05,000
well he didn't have a passing touchdown
against Kansas, but he has he

726
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:07,960
has a good arm. And I
think the rest of the way, they're

727
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,360
going to be motivated because they because
you know, Kansas has used to be

728
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,920
the laughing sack of the Big Twelve. So how do you think Oklahoma fans

729
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,840
and and you know, and the
team is feeling after that. I mean,

730
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,519
they're probably motivated to try to try
to win this thing out. Yeah,

731
01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:28,679
yeah, I think so. The
Big Twelve schedule came out the matrix

732
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,920
for the next few years, and
uh, the only protected rivalries are k

733
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:39,440
U, K State, Arizona,
Arizona State, b YU, and Utah

734
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,599
And then uh, there's one more
than I'm missing off the top of my

735
01:01:43,639 --> 01:01:50,920
head, Baylor TCU. I thinks
together were you surprised h at the uh

736
01:01:51,639 --> 01:01:54,440
only having four protected rivalries here,
it's gonna be weird not playing teams like

737
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,119
Iowa State in Oklahoma State every year
anymore. Well, I'm fine with it.

738
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,039
You because you keep the big robberies
like you want to see those in

739
01:02:02,119 --> 01:02:06,320
state rivalies. I mean, you
want to be asking me the question about

740
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,360
k State if that wasn't the thing. I mean, I grew up an

741
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:15,679
Urdain fan, and so once that
Nerdame Michigan robbery went away, Nordin joined

742
01:02:15,679 --> 01:02:17,679
the ACC. I know a lot
of people were upset because that was a

743
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,480
rivaly game that was played every year. So I like to see that KU

744
01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:27,559
keeps playing k State and then the
Arizona and Arizona State the in State because

745
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:30,239
those are those are big robbery games
that people are really passionate care about.

746
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:35,679
So if you're going to at least
keep some games, you want to keep

747
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,119
those games, because I mean,
I don't really necessarily think KAU and Iowa

748
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:43,880
State is a robbery game. I'm
not necessarily sure, especially for football.

749
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,880
I mean maybe for basketball, yeah, but not for football. Yeah,

750
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:52,480
Ky, you next year is going
to get Iowa State, Houston, TCU,

751
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:55,320
and Colorado at home Coach Prime coming
to Lawrence, and then on the

752
01:02:55,400 --> 01:03:00,880
road at Arizona State, at BYuT
Baylor, at k State, and at

753
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:06,719
West Virginia. What drinks your most
about a next year's schedule? Well,

754
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,159
I might hit up my sister for
that b YU game because she lives in

755
01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:13,519
Utah. Uh. And then I
know you already said you made up justin

756
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,480
where there's a mistake game, I
mean big, the big talk has become

757
01:03:16,599 --> 01:03:20,880
like, hey, where where's the
place that I can go on vacation for

758
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,199
a little bit. I'm gonna I'm
gonna go there? And uh so you

759
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:27,639
got you gotta love it. Maybe
uh that b YU game we can play

760
01:03:27,679 --> 01:03:31,239
in Vegas and make a Vegas trip. That'd be cool. Me and you

761
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:37,760
in Vegas. No one would survive, I mean we would do with your

762
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,480
podcast would be done. I mean, you know, hear me out on

763
01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:45,800
this, and are our friends that
are listening right now? Me, you,

764
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:52,280
Markey, Justin and Fish in Vegas? Who says no, Oh man,

765
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:59,679
we'd be risking it all for sure. I'm down. I'm down.

766
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,199
Let's go to Vegas. Uh,
we know you're down. We know you're

767
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:08,239
down. I thrive in Vegas.
Vegas one of my favorite cities. Summer

768
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,480
of Jones in Vegas might be hot, but it'd be worth it. Might

769
01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:15,400
anger some of Jones, oh yeah, and then it might be it might

770
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,119
be the end of that. Uh
more than a weekend is too much in

771
01:04:19,239 --> 01:04:24,599
Vegas. Uh, Nick, I
gotta ask you where you're at. Pretty

772
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:30,400
interesting situation there with Iowa with a
Kirk Farrence and his son who will no

773
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,599
longer be the offensive coordinator at that
program. Yeah, it's crazy. I

774
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:40,760
mean it's pretty much when the aid
the inter maybe has to step in and

775
01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:45,199
pretty much tell the head coach,
Hey, your son's not going to continue

776
01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:47,679
with the program. You know,
that's just like, I mean, what

777
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:53,760
is that right? I mean before
the season he had Brian Ferrence as the

778
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:58,719
offensive coordinator had to average twenty five
points per game and he was gonna have

779
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,280
to resign anyway if he didn't meet
that mark. And there was a bunch

780
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,719
of other points as well, but
that was the big emphasis, the big

781
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:12,039
emphasis as far as far as that
contract go, Like he really restructured it

782
01:05:12,119 --> 01:05:14,519
and that was the main, the
main part of it. And when you

783
01:05:14,639 --> 01:05:18,400
get Cave mcmaro from Michigan, who
led the Wolverines to a playoff just a

784
01:05:18,519 --> 01:05:23,679
couple of seasons ago, you're thinking, hey, like that is a dual

785
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,719
that is very doable. Like the
offense is going to be wide open again,

786
01:05:28,239 --> 01:05:30,679
a lot of a lot of passing, not a lot of running.

787
01:05:31,199 --> 01:05:34,239
You know, your defense is going
to keep you in games because your defense

788
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:39,000
is one of the best in the
country. But then he goes down with

789
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:45,360
an ACL injury. And so the
last three or four games somehow, except

790
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:50,840
for the Minnesota game where they had
the controversial call with Cooper de Gene waving

791
01:05:51,519 --> 01:05:55,679
for a fair catch even though they
said, you know it wasn't a fair

792
01:05:55,719 --> 01:05:59,039
catch, was not a fair catch. You can discuss that all day.

793
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:03,079
But before that, you're still winning
games with your defense and special teams.

794
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:10,000
I mean, they the backup quarterback, he's just handing it off to what

795
01:06:10,119 --> 01:06:14,719
and literally they had one touchdown in
that game that was offensive and it was

796
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:17,679
a seventy yard run. I mean, but they're still winning games because the

797
01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:21,840
defense holds the other team to field
goals or no points. So as long

798
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,880
as Iowa's kicking field goals or getting
defensive points, they're still winning games.

799
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:31,159
Because the Big Ten West is literally
the worst division in all of college football.

800
01:06:31,719 --> 01:06:34,800
Yeah, it's pretty bad, and
somebody's gonna get to play for a

801
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:43,079
conference championship game based on that.
I was crazy because even though you're telling

802
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:47,679
your offensive coordinator you need to resign, you are still six and two and

803
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,440
you can win out and be ten
and two and go to the Big Ten

804
01:06:50,519 --> 01:06:56,199
championship. Yeah, and had they
not lost this week, we could be

805
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:01,719
talking about Iowa in the playoff conversation. Wild It's just that's the only word

806
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,679
there. There is just just a
while. So with with having to basically

807
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:13,119
fire his own son but not actually
do it, his boss do it pretty

808
01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:16,199
much right, and with getting a
little older, I wonder how much longer

809
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,280
Kurt Farrence is going to be there. Well, that's interesting that you said

810
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:24,199
that, because that was actually brought
up in the press conference on Tuesday.

811
01:07:26,519 --> 01:07:28,960
He pretty much, you know,
went around the answer. That's that's what

812
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:31,519
Kirk he does, That's what a
lot of coaches do. But they they

813
01:07:31,559 --> 01:07:34,159
pretty much asked him, well,
if your if your son is leaving,

814
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:38,679
you know, are you coming up
next? And he says, you know,

815
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,519
he's he's he loves what he does. He's been here for so long,

816
01:07:42,679 --> 01:07:46,000
he's he's healthy. The doctors tell
him he's okay, so he he's

817
01:07:46,039 --> 01:07:51,000
ready to keep going. And he
usually says that, you know, he

818
01:07:51,079 --> 01:07:57,159
makes his evaluations at the end of
the year about staff, team stuff like

819
01:07:57,239 --> 01:08:00,880
that. And so the fact that
the AD to step in and make this

820
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,920
decision for him, that's kind of
stepping out of his rum of realm of

821
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:09,679
things that he usually does, and
so it kind of, you know,

822
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:14,840
took away from this from the season
because they were coming off of bye So

823
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,439
obviously in the bye week they kind
of did a little bit of their looking

824
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,279
ahead a bit and said, hey, you know, here's what we have

825
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:25,680
to do coming up in the offseason, because now they have the four games

826
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:30,479
left to go in the regular season
and some winnable games Northwestern Illinois, Nebraska,

827
01:08:31,039 --> 01:08:34,159
So you've got some winnable games coming
up, but you can at least

828
01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:38,960
are looking ahead to the future.
What's kind of the thoughts where you're at.

829
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,840
They're in a Big Ten country about
this whole Michigan scandal and affecting the

830
01:08:44,239 --> 01:08:48,920
rest of the league because there was
a report today about some schools requesting the

831
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:55,359
Big Ten take action against Michigan.
They have this competitive advantage. What's kind

832
01:08:55,359 --> 01:08:58,760
of being talked about there in Iowa
about all this, Well, I mean,

833
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:04,159
this is this is like being a
Patriots fan or a Cowboys fan or

834
01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:11,319
whatever. You know, only the
fans care about it. Any other fan

835
01:09:11,399 --> 01:09:15,560
base, they're like, fire him, get rid of them, do whatever

836
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,880
you need to do, get him
out of there. So it's really like

837
01:09:19,039 --> 01:09:23,520
it's only Michigan fans that are really
like, hey, like, he didn't

838
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,920
do anything wrong, right, But
that's what all the fan bases are going

839
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:30,840
to say. So if there's anybody
else in the Big ten, you're gonna

840
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,479
say, hey, Harball, get
him out of there. But I think

841
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:40,199
I think this really pushes Harball kind
of like that Pete Carroll situation. He

842
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:45,039
gets the NFL and maybe he gets
away with it, maybe he goes to

843
01:09:45,079 --> 01:09:50,439
the Bears, goes to the Raiders
wherever, Chargers wherever, and he's in

844
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,199
the NFL and it's like, hey, you know, I can't get in

845
01:09:54,199 --> 01:09:57,359
trouble now because I'm not I'm not
in college football anymore. So I feel

846
01:09:57,399 --> 01:10:00,640
like the situation might lead to it
was kind of more like the writing was

847
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,239
on the wall. Are you ready
for him to be the next Bears coach?

848
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:08,600
Hey, I'm all for it.
Right now. The Bears have the

849
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:13,319
two and three picks. You can
get Caleb Williams or Marvin Harrison junior,

850
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,920
and let's ride. Let's go.
Just don't bring Lincoln Riley up there with

851
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,199
you. I'm going to tell you
this right now. If you hire Lincoln

852
01:10:21,279 --> 01:10:26,880
Riley in Chicago, you'll regret No
that is, I am not in favor

853
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:32,079
of that. Harbaugh, Yes,
because he's a former Bear quarterback and he's

854
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:36,359
proven that he could win in the
NFL. I mean he took Colin Kaepernick

855
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:41,520
to the super Bowl with the forty
nine ers. I mean that's impressive.

856
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,960
A lot of these other coaches,
even the best college coach, Nick Saban,

857
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,079
didn't have success in the NFL.
But Harball has proved it. So

858
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:55,359
Harball is different. Yeah, where
you're at. Big Ten. Catcher imaged

859
01:10:55,399 --> 01:10:59,479
earlier about the Big twelve and their
changes. The Big Ten's about to have

860
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,960
some mass have changed is next year
with the West coast schools of Oregon,

861
01:11:03,359 --> 01:11:09,239
UCLA, USC and Washington coming in. What's kind of the failing about,

862
01:11:09,359 --> 01:11:12,720
Uh, the Big Ten going west
and these are new teams coming in next

863
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,880
year. Well, it'll be interesting
to see how it all plays out.

864
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,640
I mean, they release the schedules
and who's gonna play who, But you

865
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:24,880
don't know how it's gonna play out
with divisions or how it that's all gonna

866
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:29,000
realign. But I mean, if
you're if you're in the if you're a

867
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,079
team in the Big Ten West,
like in Minnesota or in Iowa like we

868
01:11:31,159 --> 01:11:38,439
talked about in Illinois. I mean, and you're playing Oregon, USC UCLA

869
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,520
traditionally great programs. I mean,
you're not gonna get away with these nine

870
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,920
to six, twelve to nine wins
like Iowa gets away with because you're actually

871
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:53,920
gonna be playing good teams. So
that's gonna be That's what a lot of

872
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,520
the talk is. It's like,
hey, like you're actually adding some really

873
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:02,199
good, historically good football programs.
Yeah, those are three really good programs,

874
01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:04,960
and U c l A has just
been kind of average. I mean

875
01:12:05,119 --> 01:12:10,199
it's I mean, but U A
c l A, if you're if they're

876
01:12:10,199 --> 01:12:12,840
in the Big time West, I
mean, they're gonna be good. Let's

877
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,359
be honest, right, Well,
there's gonna be no divisions in the new

878
01:12:15,359 --> 01:12:17,800
Big Ten. Yeah, yeah,
exactly, So it'll be interesting to see

879
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,680
il plays out. But yeah,
but like obviously it's I think it's gonna

880
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:26,880
be a disadvantage for a lot of
the big time West teams because they're gonna

881
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,680
have to play some of those West
Coast teams probably more a little more often

882
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:34,880
than the teams on the East,
and it's not gonna be as close competition

883
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:41,119
as if they're just playing on Northwestern
or Minnesota where you're you're just squeaking out

884
01:12:41,159 --> 01:12:44,520
these wins. I mean you could
a lot of these teams could easily just

885
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,079
get man handled by some of these
teams coming in right right well, And

886
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,960
I do wonder on the flip side
of that though, like take a USC

887
01:12:53,159 --> 01:12:57,920
or U c l A. And
let's say that you gotta go play Penn

888
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,800
State in November in the snow,
that that's gonna be a different world than

889
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,720
what you have in southern California earlier
in the week. Yeah. When I

890
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:10,760
first like saw US and U c
l A we're going to the Big Ten,

891
01:13:11,159 --> 01:13:15,199
my first thought was like, Wow, what's gonna happen when you when

892
01:13:15,359 --> 01:13:21,239
one of those two teams has to
go to Northwestern Evanston, Illinois on November

893
01:13:21,279 --> 01:13:26,039
at eleven am and it is snowing. I mean, how much of an

894
01:13:26,079 --> 01:13:29,000
advantage that that might give Northwestern?
I mean you, no, you don't

895
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,560
know, right, I mean,
but I mean, yeah, the elements

896
01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:35,920
honestly could play a huge role in
that. Yeah, yeah for sure.

897
01:13:36,319 --> 01:13:38,840
Uh, well, we got a
little bit of top left, So I

898
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:43,800
gotta ask you, uh you excited
for some some Kansas hoops here? Getting

899
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:48,239
started? Uh? Hunter Dickinson and
everything. I can't wait honestly, Oh

900
01:13:48,279 --> 01:13:51,600
of course. I mean I watched
the exhibition game against Illinois and now we

901
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:56,520
relieve one, and I was,
I was excited. I was, I

902
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,319
was ready to go, you know. I mean, I remember the last

903
01:14:00,319 --> 01:14:03,119
time we around. We were like, what's Ken's gonna do? I mean,

904
01:14:03,159 --> 01:14:09,119
you lose, you lose Grady dick
you lose your great shooter, and

905
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:12,600
you lose Jalen Wilson, who was
your leading scorer. You lose all this

906
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,119
offense. What is what is Bill
going to do? What is Bill going

907
01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:18,479
to do? And nothing was happening. Duke was getting transfers. North Carolina

908
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,239
was getting transfers, and you're like, when is Bill going to make his

909
01:14:21,359 --> 01:14:27,159
move? And then he makes the
move, brings in Hunter Dickinson and then

910
01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:31,680
adds some more pieces around Dickinson.
Mccullor comes back. He's a great defensive

911
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,920
piece as well. You still have
Dewan Harris, the best point guard in

912
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:39,880
the country, even though it doesn't
show down the stats, Gray Passer,

913
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,880
everything like that. You have this, you go from oh my gosh,

914
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,800
it's going to be a down yere
to hey, it is national championship.

915
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:54,079
For a bus. It is uh, as Bill would say, faces changed,

916
01:14:54,119 --> 01:14:58,920
but expectations don't exactly the goat the
goat himself. Yes, we love

917
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:09,439
Bill's self here. Did nothing wrong
the best? Uh that that hair on

918
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,359
his head, that's a two pay
right, it has to be. But

919
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,800
he's rock he's rocking. I think
it's like sewn into his head, you

920
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:25,199
know, like ah that that thing
doesn't move? No, but you have

921
01:15:25,239 --> 01:15:28,000
to wonder when he's in the shower, does that come on? Probably right,

922
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,680
I don't think that's moving. I
think it's like sewn into his head.

923
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,760
Yeah, I don't think that moves. Uh. Nick, Before we

924
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,239
go, where can people find you
and follow all the stuff you're doing?

925
01:15:39,279 --> 01:15:41,960
Man? Oh? Yeah, you
can find me on social media and make

926
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,159
it really easy because I use the
same handle for everything. It's ncauz n

927
01:15:46,399 --> 01:15:51,359
c o u z that it's on
Twitter, Instagram. I've recently brought back

928
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:57,560
my TikTok, so I'm excited to
start doing that. And I have a

929
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,039
Threads too, but I don't really
use threads, but you can add me

930
01:16:00,039 --> 01:16:02,920
on there too, I guess.
There you go. He's Nick cousin.

931
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:09,119
Check him out and I appreciate the
time as always my friend, best of

932
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:11,960
luck to you and we'll definitely be
talking again soon. Thanks for joining us Man