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Steve Rivera and Jake and Salez.
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Wow. Hey, welcome back to
Eying the Ball here on Fox Sports

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fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's
Jay. Now we have said with breaking

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news, Eye on the ball,
breaking news, all right, starting off

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the breaking news with some Arizona football. Raymond Fuldo has been drawn from the

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transfer portal you for the offensive line
at Arizona. So that means that,

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you know what, the only guy
missing is the guy that ran, you

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know, Jordan Morgan that ran out
of his uh eligibility. That the rest

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of the starting offensive line is back. Mm hmm. That's great news.

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I guess we'll see. I try
to get his dad on. Maybe he'll

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come on some point he's been on
before. Then we'll see him around now,

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as we talked about, maybe a
week or so. Go Jay.

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He just needs to stay healthy,
yeah, yep, yeah, he does

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well. They all do, but
you know, but him specifically, he

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didn't play a lot because he was
hurt. Yeah a lot. Yeah,

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but you know, the bigger pictures
that you know, Brent Brannan has obviously

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you know, the pieces he needs. Uh. You know too, there's

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gonna be high expectations, you know, maybe not quite as high because the

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coach left, and you know,
there's going to be this there's this transition

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and all that kind of stuff.
But you know the fact that I think

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fans can go into twenty twenty four
believing that Arizona's got a shot to you

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know, to have a good uh
maybe even a special season. Yeah,

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they had they have some NFL bodies
on the line that could be developed for

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sure, right especially I mean Polito
was only a freshman last year. Yeah,

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you know, so you know the
big piece of the one, the

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piece that kind of stings that that
that that left is is Jonah Coleman.

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Uh. You know, I'm sure
Brent Brandon would have loved to have Jonah

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coleb going in the next season.
But you know that the kid, the

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freshman coming in, Jordan Washington,
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by his uh you know, his
commitment. He's coming. You got Speedy

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Luke who you know, I don't
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Look, you know, I'm gonna
be interested to see but you know who's

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gonna get the you know who's gonna
get the yards that the DJ Williams and

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and uh and uh and Jana Coleman
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third and two right that they you
know, they run somebody off tackle and

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and get that uh, you know
the power runner that they had and you

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know and Coleman, you know,
broke a lot of those. So that's

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gonna be the part that's gonna be
interesting to see. But certainly Brent Brennan's

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got a lot to work with.
Yeah, the higher the running backs coach,

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Alonso Carter, he's going to play
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maybe a veteran back in the portal
something. Right, if they bigger back

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the kid from the you know,
the running back that he had at San

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Jose Stay. He looks like a
bit of a bit of a beast,

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So we'll see. Yeah. Staying
with the running back topic, Cayden Luke

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remains committed to Arizona. You mentioned, ye, speedy Cayden Cayden Luke the

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recruit out here. Oh okay,
all right, yes, yeah, he's

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so he will be another running back. We'll see how his career pans out,

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but running back rooms starting to I
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of right now. Yeah, look, in the end, it looks good

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that Brandon was able to keep virtually
all, you know, for certainly most

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there wasn't this exodus of players that
followed Jedfish out of here. Yeah.

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Yeah, Now, if you can
keep one of those cornerbacks, one of

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those price soccer Davis, then the
defense starts to really pan out as well.

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So right, moving into a little
bit of saturd news, there's a

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former Arizona Wildcat that passed away,
Kelly Melvo yep, forty seven years old.

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Yeah, I mean you you watched
the news and you read the things

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on the internet. A lot of
dudes are a lot of people are passing

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away under sixty. It's crazy,
It's just unbelievable. How did we get

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here, Steve? How did we
get Did you get the styfour? Yeah,

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that's exactly what I'm saying as to
borrow my boys Sid's cliche. I

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work day to day, stated way, maybe I'm on a contract with God

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day to day. Oh yeah,
oh god, that's you know again.

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Kelly Melbol was one of those guys
that I mean, I was I was

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grown up and old when he was
playing, right right. Yeah, he's

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forty seven, and we'll look at
all the there's been a few of the

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guys offensive linemen. Yeah, that's
too bad, very very very sorry to

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hear that. Condolences to his family, yeah, for sure. Staying with

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college football, Colorado self reported the
minor n CUBA violations related to the transfer

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portal social media and more so did
they do I believe. I don't know

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who or how this came about.
Uh, there's there's more violations, but

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the ones that are known as trans
report on social media, they were reported

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by Colorado themselves. We'll see what
happens with that. What what what the

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band will be if there's a band
or if there's just a minor suspension or

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because one of them was related to
Deon Sanders use of social media. Ah

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okay, all right, shocker and
it was from last season. Okay,

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all right, so we'll see what
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they hired Raheem Morris, the Rams
defensive coordinator. They had several interviews

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with Bill Belichick. So this is
a little bit of a shocker to some

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because Bill Belichick, this is the
only team that he's interviewed with. Well,

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I Justin Spears had a really funny
comment on social media to see what

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he said. He said, Bill
Belichick blew a two interview lead at Atlanta

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because it was reported he had he
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they gave the job to Raheem Morris. That is a good that's a great

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line. Justin props to you on
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Raheem Morris has history with the Falcons. Know, I think, you know,

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I think the reaction has been pretty
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find that he's a defensive coordinator.
I don't know about defense coordinators being head

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coaches, not that they're not goorect
but to score now in the NFL,

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it's become an offensive games as we're
seeing. Also, the Panthers are looking

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to hire the Bucks offensive cordnertor Dave
Canalis, who helps Baker Mayfield that his

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best season. So Panthers are looking
to go offensive coordinator, try to develop

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Bryce Young while others may be looking
the defensive coordinator route. We saw what

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happened with the Chargers when they hired
Daily, a former defensive coordinator. Yeah,

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very well, not very well.
But look, let's let's you know,

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since we make it, since we
talk about it when it's not happening,

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we'll talk about it when it is. You know, a couple of

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couple of African American coaches high with
uh with Antonio Pearson now Raheem Morris,

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so so good on, good on
the NFL for doing that. It's it's

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it's it's sad that you got to
keep, you know, poking them at

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it. But you know, hopefully
that's a you know, maybe the start

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of something. Yeah. Looking into
this weekend as the NFL games, UH,

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for the forty nine Ers and Lions
NFC Championship Games, the honor captains

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will be Joe Montana and Barry Sanders. Wow, okay, good for Barry

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Sanders. Yeah, so some familiar
faces in there. It saw an interesting

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interview with Barry Sanders the other day, just talking about, you know,

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when he quit and he's been asked
this a million times and stuff, but

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he said he just good. That
was what it was. There was never

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there were never second thoughts about it. You know, after he quit,

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he just said like I'm done,
I've had it, I've had mine and

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uh, and he moved on healthy
way to yeah he's healthy. Well he's

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doesn't he do the commercials with the
Heisman or whatever he does those? Yeah,

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he's in the Yeah, yeah he
does that stuff. So clearly just

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you know, just kind of having
fun. Some of them were funny because

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they're old. You know, it's
like, you know, are Marcus Allen

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and those guys yet? Yeah,
and then they have the and then they

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have the young guys like Bryce Young
and there it's kind of funny. Super

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Bowl news, Uh, super Bowl
participants will not be able to engage in

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any sort of gambling as it's in
Vegas. No gambling. You can't go

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throw the dice or anything nothing.
I don't want to play. I don't

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want I don't want to go.
Oh no no I'm going. I'm going.

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I got I got, I got
a hamster. All of a sudden,

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I'll be the lower Yeah. God, you know, thinking back to

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you know, what's this like the
eleventh how many packed off tournaments have been

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in Vegas? Ren the very first
one, and there you know, and

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all you know, all of us
who were working the tournament, and there

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was you know, there was an
organizational meeting the night before the tournament.

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The tournament started, they said,
and finally, please, please, don't,

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you know, don't let us see
you hanging out in the sports books.

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And you know, I mean they
really, you know, at that

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time, really really told us,
you know, just stay away. I

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mean, they obviously weren't going to
stop us from playing blackjack or whatever,

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sure, but they were just like, you know, you know, don't

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don't be wearing your pack twelve gear
and a sports book. Don't even go

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to a sports book and all that
stuff. Do they still tell you that,

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Yes, they still tell you that, but it's sort of a wink

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wink kind of thing because they know
that, you know they i mean,

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look, you go to sportsbook to
watch the game. Sure of course,

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you know, to just sit there
and watch games because you got all this

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time. That's why Vegas to me
is like the economy. It's just kind

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of strange because they have the kids
tournaments there. My son's played soccer.

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I went to basketball, high school
basketball stuff that's recruiting. In the summer.

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I saw literally I was at the
old Riviera. I think I was

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sitting with my then wife in a
place outside and you'd see kids going into

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the in the clubs, clubs,
and then eventually coming right out, you

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know, because when you're seventeen eighteen, you want to you're curious, but

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THEYD come right out. And I'm
thinking Vegas is not the place to be

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for these events, but but your
parents are taking you or whatever the exactly

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they let and for your case,
how many how many tournaments four or five

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in Vegas? Yea? With how
many administrators? Twenty five to forty?

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Yeah, yeah, but at least
so much. I said, don't do

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this, okay, whatever you say, whatever you say a problemise, Yeah,

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no, it's a it's a and
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work in the tournament sort of becoming
okay, you know, we we know

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the you know, we know the
ropes, we know we know the situation

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and we but you know, you
and I will go to our we go

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to our radio show from the sports
book and at the at the uh Park

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Park West, Yeah park do it
again, Park MDM Parking Gym. And

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when we were at the place for
the we did the man the mandalay On.

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Gotta get back. We're gonna we
have to start checking into yeah,

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we have to. Yeah. So
anyways, yeah, that's all the major

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news I have. I know you
Steve you well, you go ahead,

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you don't have the Brennan stuff or
yeah, yeah, okay, okay,

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Well, I guess the the Border
regents today had their meetings and the Brennan's

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contract has been approved. So that's
good. We were anticipating more news out

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of the Border regions. Well,
and here's this is not a Border Regions

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thing, but posted by the airs
of Data Star about an hour ago that

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Dave Hikey is going to get paid
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twenty twenty five, which is basically
another million bucks. Do you know how

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much? Did you see a number? We say that, yeah, how

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much a month? No, but
it says the salary totals a million,

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forty two five seventy five thousand dollars
a month. Wow. I can live

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off that. I can live off
a little of that. Good for Dave?

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Yeah, yeah, you know,
I mean, I'm sure he wants

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to go find another job. Fine, he'll He'll be fine. We're all

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you know, Come on, you've
just lost how many jobs? How many

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have I lost? Yeah? One
where TP? Yeah? City? Oh

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no, I've been fired twice by
the Sugar Stars. No, I quit

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the city. Okay, So but
you don't have to quit this, not

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so much. You've for some summer. I think I hold a record,

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not counting the players. I've been
let go twice by the Sugar Skulls now

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because because of the TV thing.
But my point is you'll be fine.

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You'll be fine. You know,
when the paper closed, I was kind

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of on my careers. It's unnerving. Sure, sure, right, you

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don't know where, but guess what
another bus comms. Yeah. I remember

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my first after I got laid off
at t EP, or shall we say

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a better term its severed from TEP. Remember the first weekday, which I

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don't know if it was the next
day, if it was like Monday or

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whatever. And I got up in
the morning and I didn't have to get

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dressed and go to work, and
I thought it was just really weird.

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Oh yeah, yeah, like the
first week or two. It was just

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really really weird. Well, Gab
was working in the Citizen when I was

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working the Citizen, right, I
was in La with the team usc uc

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other game and they called ahead their
meeting into paper blah blah, we're gonna

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be closing down in a few months. And I was getting the call and

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I felt worse when I came home. Then you see yours and then you

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have to say, this is going
to happen. Yeah, and you felt

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bad, but you're hope. You're
hopeful. And then the paper continued for

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three more months, and then the
last day is like you, what am

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I going to do tomorrow? I
do tomorrow? What do I do tomorrow?

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That's why I'll never retire. I
hope I passed the next day.

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Don't do that. Okay, maybe
two days later. You need to have

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some time to kind of wind down
from a life of work. Oh sure,

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okay, I got okay, you
know, go play some golf,

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Go play some soccer, Go play
some cards. Yeah cause that'll be that'll

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be exactly that borrow some money exactly. Well, okay, so the Border

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Regions one's one. You got all
the players coming back, right, yeah,

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all the players coming back. Here's
what? Okay, So I told

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you there was a on this day. Oh yeah, on this day in

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nineteen eighty eight, Steve, on
this day in nineteen eighty eight. Nineteen

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eighty eight, Okay, I was
my first year here a sport, A

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sport, Give me a house basketball
this day look till raftery Oh the bringing,

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bringing home, send it in Sean. Sean Miller's passed to Jerome Lane

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busted a score a backboard on a
on a fast break. So what was

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the most distinctive thing about Sean that
you thought? What was if you say

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Sean, describe him for me.
Sean Miller, his his his his his

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level of intensity and and and tunnel
vision on basketball. Okay, his one

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life focus on basket. So accurate, very accurate. Okay, So mine

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is that, but it's more after
like the third year, when he was

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doing really well, I called uh
to do a story for for Fox,

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and I called his former players,
former teammates of that team. He said,

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what did you what do you remember
him the most? And you know

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how cool was it play with him? He says, we loved it?

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But he was intense. And those
eyes, oh yeah, they stared at

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you like you know when you did
that kind of little squint at you.

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Yeah, you're thinking you were in
trouble. Did your dad do that to

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you? My dad, Yeah,
he had a look. There was a

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look and my mom had one too. They both had a yeah, well

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yeah, but there was a look
that you knew that Sean was the odes

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for me because if he gave you
that stare down you said, well,

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he's probably thinking about I want to
kick your all. Right, let's uh,

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let's get out of here for our
next break. We're going to come

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We'll talk about players coming and going,

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Great guys, thanks for having me back

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Azolwi. You must not be getting
much sleep these days given all the movement

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with players and coaches and all that. Yeah, I mean it's been kind

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of never ending. At us was
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Polynesian Bowland. As I was taking
off, literally I think right as the

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tires are leaving the runaway Klein de
Bore decided that it was time for him

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to make a move to Alabama.
And and then as I've been taking off,

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you know, coming back to the
West coast, if he decides,

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you know, time to hang him
up for Arizona de tide maybe four d

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ivek that has time to hang them
up. And you know, so not

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stop busy, busy times, but
definitely a fun time and obviously a lot

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going on for for Arizona and everywhere. Well there was a lot happened in

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between there as well, along with
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So you know, obviously the big
you know, the big question mark

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when Jed took the Washington job is
what, you know, what happens to

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the players at Arizona, your impressions
of how well of a job, how

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good of a job, and why
Brent Brennan is able to hang on to

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the guys that are sticking around.
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Jed Fish decided to take Washington was, you don't take that job unless you

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have guarantees from some of your players
that you're going to be from at least

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a lot of your top players that
you're going to be having them with you,

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you know, up in Seattle.
So a little surprising that you know

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that was the case. And uh, you know, kudos to Brent Brennan

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for being able to hold on to
not only Team Mac, but No Fafida

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and uh, you know a bunch
of other players as well who are going

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to matter and we're going to play
a big role in what they do next

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season. And uh, it makes
all the difference in my opinion for for

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year one. And you know,
for him, it's not about a rebuilt,

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it's about trying to continue what Jeed
Fish built. And uh, he's

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going to be able to do that
with a lot of the top players coming

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back, and I think especially along
the offensive line, that's really key to

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have a lot of those guys coming
back right in Toledo obviously, uh you

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know, reportedly coming out of the
portal today and so it sounds like he'll

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be back as well. And so
to get a lot of those top guys

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back, I think says a lot
about, you know, what Brent Brandan

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is going to bring to the table, what he's going to be as a

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recruiter, the culture he's trying to
build, and just the uh, the

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leadership I think he's going to bring
to the program at the head coach condition,

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which is what Arizona wanted and that's
why he was, you know,

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uh seemingly going to be the guy
for a time last time around, you

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know, before they hired Jet Fish, and so, you know, I

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think it says a lot about just
kind of what he's going to be and

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what to expect I think for Arizona
in the coming years, where it's not

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if you're an Arizona fan, looking
like it's going to be too much of

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a drop off in terms of what
they're able to do. The production and

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it's it's so pivotal for head coach, uh, you know, stepping into

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a situation to have success early on
because of the transferportal era, so many

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players, so many recruits are looking
for that kind of instant success, and

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so I think if you don't have
that, it becomes really difficult to to,

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you know, truly rebuild a program. And Brent Brennan is probably not

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one of the names that a lot
of players that have been looking at Arizona

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are super super familiar with. And
you know, santise was pretty active.

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Santaise k was pretty active and recruiting
a lot of the guys that ended up

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at Arizona. So maybe it's a
little bit less at you a but across

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the board, you know, he's
not a name that his first on the

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minds for a lot of recruits.
And so I think being able to seemingly

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what feels like is going to be
a successful year shaping up to be a

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successful year for Arizona with who they
have coming back, I think it's going

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to set them up really well because
it'll show that, hey, he can

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coach at the Power five level,
you can coach at a place like Arizona

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and you know, moving to that
Big twelve and potentially, you know,

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having a chance to win the Big
twelve. I they're able to kind of

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replicate what they did this last season, all good things, and I think

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it will be positive momentum for Arizona. And I really like when he's down

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to the staff. I mean,
obviously not everybody is officially announced, but

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most of the staff is announced,
and I think he's put together a really

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strong staff. A lot of those
coaches they're coming over with him from San

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Jose State, but even if Pie
he's kind of plugged in elsewhere, I

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think are really important, really key
pieces. And I think they're going to

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continue to kind of keep this thing
moving forward and do what they did at

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San Jose State, but maybe on
a bigger level. So not to rehash,

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but I'm a gonna rehash because I
want to compare the two. And

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you just talked about to Brendan being
a recruiter at the end of the day,

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at the end of the day,
the three years and you do this

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for a living, though. Was
Fish a pretty good recruiter or very good

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recruiter or was Noah Fafita the good
recruiter? Fish was a pretty good recruiter,

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and I think he was a he's
a pretty good kind of manager of

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his staff and talent. I think
he understood kind of what buttons he needed

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to push, you he needed to
bring on board, and I think he

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kind of made a lot of the
right decisions. Couldn't have been better,

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absolutely, And I think he's gonna
have the challenges at Washington. I think

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it's a different type of recruit recruiting
that you have to be there, and

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there's a different type of appeal to
a place like Seattle. But I don't

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think it's going to be, you
know, an easy kind of Hey,

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everyone's going to come and want to
play for me, because you've already kind

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of seen that. Because if that
was the case, there'd be a lot

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of guys who are staying at Arizona
wouldn't be at Arizona right now. So

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I think there's kind of rooms we
made. I think that the staff he

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had at Arizona, it was a
solid staff and did a lot of good

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things, but it was kind of, you know, with some of its

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pieces. Because I thought the coaching
staff that he had at Arizona was really

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good and was really aware of what
it needs to do. And you know,

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you saw that kind of in the
early portions of this last recruiting cycle

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and they had you know, Elijah
Rushing committed, and they had cand of

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real high committed and they were kind
of really dominating the state. I think

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you saw kind of what types of
recruiters they can be. Ultimately a matter

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who you signed versus who you had
committed at one point. So you know,

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there's obviously still things to be desired
there, but it's a pretty good,

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pretty good recruiter, probably the best
that you know, I've seen at

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Arizona in terms of my time covering
the teams went over a decade, so

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uh, you know, went through
a few different coaching staffs, and a

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lot of that was just effort and
just really being willing to put in the

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00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.759
effort. I think you're going to
see that kind of replicated with Burn Brennan

408
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:29.759
and the current staff. I think
they're going to be really active and really

409
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.160
go getters about trying to reach out
to recruits early on. I think that's

410
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.200
one of the things that if you
look at just the last years and the

411
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.079
time under Burnt Brennan at San Jose
State, they were one of the programs

412
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:44.880
that was always first to offer a
lot of recruits ended up landing a lot

413
00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:47.440
of recruits pretty early on. It
would lose them to bigger schools down the

414
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:49.519
line because they just didn't have real
the resources to compete in a lot of

415
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.119
ways. And you know, they
didn't have the appeal of being a Power

416
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:56.519
five school or you know, a
high level program, and so you know,

417
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.799
they lost out with some guys.
But they're really active and they're really

418
00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.000
good to identifying talent. I think
that's gonna benefit them as they all kind

419
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:03.880
of make that move to Arizona.
Now, well, I was gonna ask

420
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.200
you that. I mean, do
we know yet how good a recruiter Brent

421
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.880
Brandan is yet? You know,
the presumption is if you can win some

422
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.799
games at Sales, they stayed,
you got to you gotta be doing something

423
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.039
right. Yeah, I mean they've
had a number of you know, guys

424
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:21.519
make it to the NFL from Santo
they state, And again, I think

425
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:25.400
it's tough to really judge because they
just you didn't have all the schools to

426
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:29.319
really have complete success on the recruiting
side, because you know, they're getting

427
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:30.480
beat out. In the end,
they were kind of Arizona's enough for a

428
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.640
long time where no bigger school to
come in and offer late in the period,

429
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.119
and you know, they would say, well, I'm gonna go play

430
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:38.559
at this school versus you know,
stay at you know, stack them into

431
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.400
Arizona, and so Arizona can kind
of now be that a little bit more.

432
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.359
And I think for Brent Brennan and
Staff, I think they again it

433
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.599
comes back to identifying talent. That's
what it really stands out about what I've

434
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.279
seen with them just over the lot
of several years, is they really are

435
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.680
early on a lot of recruits and
will jump in early with that first offer

436
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:59.079
and really feel confident in who they
like. I think is kind of the

437
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:02.279
feeling. And I think that's going
to benefit them as they may go to

438
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.319
Arizona. If they continue that and
if they continue to have that kind of

439
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.920
foresight and eye for talent, I
think it's going to be very good for

440
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.839
them at Arizona because they'll be able
to move in and really make make a

441
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.160
move with those recruits early on in
the process and you know, either get

442
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.519
them committed or at least put a
good word in and kind of stay in

443
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.079
the picture with them for a long
time. And I think they'll have more

444
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:25.839
resources and things available to them at
Arizona to maybe lead to more success.

445
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:27.319
But we'll see. It's kind of
remains to be seen whether he's a good

446
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.279
recruiter or not. I think so
far it feels like that's the case,

447
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.240
but kind of the proof will be
in the putting and what he's able to

448
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.519
do at Arizona in these coming years. The fact that Arizona was able to

449
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.680
keep Noel fafieda team act, you
know, Jacob Mona, as much of

450
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.279
the roster as they've been able to
keep, there's got to be some long

451
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:49.200
term benefit to that for Arizona as
a whole, and you know, as

452
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.400
and for Brent Brannan, for you
know, recruits out there, to say,

453
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.720
Okay, these guys stayed there when
they could have gone elsewhere. You

454
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.880
know, we had you know,
one of the boosters in Bert to Lopez

455
00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:00.839
just came on the you know,
came on the radio a couple of days

456
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:04.160
ago and said, team at could
have gotten a lot more money going somewhere

457
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.119
else, but he stayed here.
How, you know, how can Arizona

458
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.200
use that down the road when it
comes to recruiting. Yeah, I mean

459
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.240
I think you know, it speaks
very loudly about what you know, they're

460
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.000
capable of what they're going to.
You know, a lot of the discussions

461
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.319
these days are NIL related and that's
just kind of the reality of the situation.

462
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:25.319
So, you know, I think
a lot of recruits are going to

463
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:27.279
see that. You know, these
players decided they had other opportunities. We

464
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:32.319
know that they could have had other
opportunities if they entered the portal and it

465
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:33.720
would have been a wide open kind
of chase to figure out who can sign

466
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.519
them and get them in the mix, and for them to kind of push

467
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.160
that away as they know we're staying
at Arizona. I do think it says

468
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:44.640
a lot about the situation. I
think recruits will see that and see,

469
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.319
well, they didn't leave for a
reason, and that's that's something to pay

470
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.960
attention to. And ultimately it'll be
what this new staff can sell recruits on.

471
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:55.599
And that doesn't matter as much to
those guys as winning and their position

472
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.640
in the field and whether or not
they're going to get playing time early.

473
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:00.920
There's a lot of other factors like
into It's not just as simple as seeing

474
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.559
no Fafita and you know, Temac
staying at Arizona now that that makes my

475
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.640
decision for me, will get them
intrigued, absolutely, but it'll be up

476
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.480
to the staff to kind of deliver
the rest and you know, sell them

477
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.000
on on the other things that that
matter to all these recruits, and there's

478
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:15.680
a lot of that. Feels like
every day there's a growing number of things

479
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.480
on that list that they're looking for, and Nil has definitely creeped up that

480
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:22.119
list and probably at the top for
a lot of the top end guys.

481
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.279
And you know, that will be
something that they kind of have to continue

482
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:32.039
to forge and build on at Arizona
under Brent Brennan. But I think in

483
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:33.720
terms of the appeal and the optics, I think it's a it's a very

484
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.720
good thing for Arizona that and Burn
Brennan that they're able to keep, you

485
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:38.920
know, those two guys at the
top and then you fill it in with

486
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:44.440
some other very talented players who are
I think it'll make a big impact.

487
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.079
I think as they kind of move
forward. So are you in your capacity

488
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:51.920
now with go as you cats do
they? Does it change? Are you

489
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.079
still gonna follow Arizona? You're still
gonna follow Washington? What's your what's your

490
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.759
job? In terms of doing that, Yeah, absolutely. You know,

491
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.400
the Polynesian Blood talked to several Arizona
recruits who were landed in Honolulu and you

492
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.839
know, found out that they didn't
have a head coach anymore, so you

493
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.599
know, and then Hockey, now, who's an offensive lineman who was already

494
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.920
on campus that Washington was trying to
figure out what he was going to do.

495
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.200
And so yeah, I mean I'm
going to very much keep tubs on

496
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:22.200
everybody. It's you know, you
it was the fact luve at one point,

497
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:23.240
but still, you know, the
pact full footprint, I guess is

498
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.440
still what I'm gonna pay attention to. And so yeah, I'll be able

499
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.799
to continue to track all the all
this movement. Uh, it's kind of

500
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:33.279
happening rapidly right now. But I
think what you're seeing from dead Fishing and

501
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.480
staff up in Washington is they're reoffering
a lot of the guys that they offered

502
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.160
at Arizona, and they're trying to
get a lot of the players that you

503
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:42.680
know, they wanted at Arizona up
there with them to Seattle and we'll kind

504
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.039
of see how it all plays out. Because Arizona's reoffering a lot of those

505
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.319
same guys as well, and then
as they stayed was in there with a

506
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.200
lot of those same guys as well
in the upcoming classes. So it'll be

507
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:52.839
a fun, little interesting battle to
kind of see how it all plays out

508
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.480
and you know which school ends up
winning or if there's another school that kind

509
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.039
of comes in and makes a move
on a lot of these recrupsies. I

510
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.119
don't know if we talked about this
last time, but are you started to

511
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:08.960
seeing any early effects of the realignment
stuff of USC and UCLA, Oregon,

512
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:13.920
Washington going to the Big ten?
You know the corner school is going to

513
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:17.839
the Big twelve in recruiting. Is
that affecting decisions that you're hearing yet?

514
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.920
I think more so the Big Ten
is the one that is grabbing a lot

515
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.759
of attention. I think there's a
lot of recruits here. If the teams

516
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:30.559
they were picking did not play in
a big conference, they would not be

517
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:32.160
picking those schools. I think that
mattered a lot for you know, places

518
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:37.400
like Oregon in USC in particular,
I think a lot of those recruits are

519
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:38.880
like, if we want to play
the top competition, we know we're going

520
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:43.039
to play Ohio State in Michigan Michigan
State a lot of you know, in

521
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.160
most years, that makes a difference, and so I think that's what you're

522
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.519
really seeing. I haven't heard about
it as much as the Big Twelve move.

523
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:52.240
I think there's still some crowns to
be made up there in terms of

524
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.200
the Big Twelve feeling like it's on
the same level as the SEC in Big

525
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:59.000
Ten. But definitely the move to
the Big Ten has grabbed a lot of

526
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.039
attention and recruits a lot about that
with you know, those schools that have

527
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:05.400
made that move or are making that
move, and so that's come up a

528
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.880
lot with those recruits. Is that's
been a big part of it and understanding

529
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.240
that they're going to play at a
very very high level. Again, I've

530
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:14.079
heard less about it with the Big
Twelve, but you know that there will

531
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:15.319
be time for that to kind of
build and we'll see kind of where that

532
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:21.640
goes in the coming years. So
you're saying that the recruits, Southern California

533
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:23.640
recruits, so the West Coast recruits
are liking the fact that they can go

534
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.079
play in the Big Ten, as
opposed to what some people thought might happen

535
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.880
that some of them might not want
to be traveling to the Big Ten.

536
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:32.920
Is that what you're saying, Yeah, I mean, not the background.

537
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.079
I don't think anybody has been like, oh, I hate the move.

538
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.440
I mean I think I think a
lot of them are sad and that they're

539
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:40.279
not going to be able to play
in front of their families as much as

540
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:43.960
they would like. But I think
they are looking at the benefits of it

541
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:45.480
and they want to be on a
big stage. That's ultimately what it comes

542
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.680
down to is they want to play
in the NFL. They think the best

543
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.200
way they do that is to be
on the biggest stage. They feel like

544
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.440
the SEC Big ten are the two
conferses that are going to put them on

545
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.000
the biggest stage. And that's what
I've heard about a lot, you know,

546
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.279
that's been brought up quite a bit
throughout recruits, is that they they

547
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.599
want to play against the best competition. They feel like those two conferences have

548
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:06.319
it. And that's really why,
you know, that's a big part of

549
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.000
a lot of decisions made by those
recruits that pack, you know, some

550
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.119
of these tactical schools that are making
the move to the Big ten. That

551
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.079
it was something that got brought up, and so yeah, that's definitely I

552
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:16.199
don't think that they love it.
I don't think I think they much rather

553
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:21.519
be playing closer to home. But
I think they understand the situation that's not

554
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:23.679
changing. So they're all for you
know, playing for the top, playing

555
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:28.199
against the top competition, and that's
that's really been pretty consistent across the board

556
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.280
with those recruits. Interesting. Okay, well, we'll see what happens.

557
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.440
Uh moving forward, we'll probably have
you on as we continue with basketball and

558
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.800
not we'n't even talk about basketball,
so we'll get well, we'll get closer

559
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.719
to a win tonight. Split tonight. What's going on though? Split this

560
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.440
weekend? Uh? Yeah, I
mean it's been an interesting time for sure.

561
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.800
I mean, obviously it doesn't it
doesn't feel like the same team that

562
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:51.760
we were watching, you know,
earlier in the season, and you had

563
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.480
to kind of bounce back and work
different things. But I think the split

564
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:58.920
is probably what Arizona's looking at right
now. And you know, if they're

565
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:00.840
able to get two wins, that's
you're all better for one. But yeah,

566
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:02.840
it sounds like a split. It's
kind of an interesting point in the

567
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:06.320
season. We'll kind of see,
uh, you know, how they kind

568
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.239
of push through this part of the
year you have give Mick cron and the

569
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:15.719
call she was doing for us,
Tracy have Tracy call. I'm gonna say,

570
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.440
probably a little bit angry. Still
he was a little cranky here,

571
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:24.760
still yelled at Justin Spears. Thanks
Matt, Thank you, Matt. I

572
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:30.039
appreciate it that not saying as long
as it wasn't me, I'm good.

573
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.719
I loved what. I loved what
Ali farhaning he had to say, he

574
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.960
said, only we get to yell
at Justin like he said that in the

575
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.679
morning, in the and on Twitter. It's very funny. So all right,

576
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.760
thank you Matt for for being with
us. Interesting stuff. I think

577
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:49.840
that you know, those of us
who are like trying to find you know,

578
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.159
fault or bad, you know,
make the pack, the move to

579
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.320
the big ten you know bad,
you know saying, oh, you know

580
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:59.360
they're gonna they're not gonna want to
go play over there. Yes they do.

581
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:01.840
They they want to plan on the
biggest stage. And it makes a

582
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:06.840
lot of sense. All right,
I got a resolution from the from the

583
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.039
what the reasons? All right,
well let's cover that when we get back.

584
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:10.239
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585
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654
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I and the ball? Hey,
Jerry, this is done? How you

655
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:20.039
doing, Steve? Hey? Don? How's relatives out in northern New Mexico?

656
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:24.440
They're all cold? I know better
here, better for us to be

657
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:30.400
here. They're all cold there?
Hey, you know what not to change

658
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:40.639
the subject. But whatever happened to
academic ineligibility in college sports? I have

659
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:45.920
not heard about a single kid being
ineligible, and I don't know how long.

660
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.400
Well, they have a lot of
resources, now, yeah, a

661
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.719
ton of resources. So if you're
failing, that's on you, baby,

662
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.280
because now they have five, I
don't know how many people. That's an

663
00:41:55.320 --> 00:42:00.760
exaggeration, and helping them to get
through the semesters and each eat, each

664
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:07.079
year, we're hearing how teams are
setting records for grade point averages and stuff

665
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:08.320
like that. Look, I remember, I still remember. This is a

666
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:13.960
while back, but a player named
Darryl Brooks and Arizona, he played in

667
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:17.079
the Stoops years. Somebody did a
profile on him, a story, and

668
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:20.599
in that he was talking about the
academic piece of it. He said,

669
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.599
with the resources that you have,
and mind you, this is fifteen years

670
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.800
ago, maybe more, he said, with the resources we have and the

671
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:31.239
things that we have at our disposal, you have to try to be ineligible.

672
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:34.679
So yeah, no, you're right. We haven't heard much about that

673
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:38.599
at all. I mean not from
anywhere. And I can't imagine there's not

674
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:45.559
somebody out there just not trying,
you know, Yeah, who knows who

675
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:51.639
knows. It's just something that I've
been thinking about with all this nil and

676
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:55.559
everything else, and you know,
well that's it's all wile waw West as

677
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:59.440
far as the rules, as far
as that goes, Yeah, no thinking,

678
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.599
man, hurt anybody get in trouble
for I didn't get a paper in

679
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.119
on time or something like that.
You're always looking for bad news. Well

680
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:10.519
and the other thing. Even even
you know, there's more and more resources

681
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:14.039
on the road too. It used
to be that, you know, like

682
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.840
the basketball team would take one academic
advisor with them and stuff like that.

683
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:20.679
There's a whole team of people that
go on the road with these with these

684
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.119
athletes to make sure that they you
know, they because there's so much travel

685
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.679
now that they you know that they
that they stay up on things as well.

686
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:32.519
Well. Plus there's now that you're
got my mind going. You know,

687
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:36.440
there's the Internet, so you can
sit in on a class right,

688
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:38.719
stuff online if you have to write. Yeah, you do a lot of

689
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:42.079
your stuff online as well. I
mean you can do you can do your

690
00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:44.639
class work on a plane now where
you couldn't. Didn't used to be able

691
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:50.239
to do that. Yeah, yeah, all right, that's all I got,

692
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.519
all right, man, we're good. Thanks Don. We appreciate the

693
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:55.679
call as always. Thanks guys.
So let's talk about the question I brought

694
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.559
up, how long it would take
for them to get out of debt.

695
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.880
Least they brought up a timeline to
get the start of the process, right,

696
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.320
that's still a long ways away.
It's it was eighteen to thirty six

697
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.239
months. That's you know, that's
about three years, you know, but

698
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.199
it's it's a it's one hundred and
forty million dollar gap, but not to

699
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:15.719
not to much you get out of
it totally. It's just to just to

700
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.880
fix that, just to fix that. This report has come out of come

701
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.840
out of the Border Regions, and
we're quoting the Arizona Daily Star story done

702
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:30.440
by Ellie Wolf posted just a little
bit ago. John Arnold quoted throughout the

703
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.840
throughout the story as well as Fred
Duvall, who's the chair of the Border

704
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.559
Regions, saying that there was one
hundred and forty million dollar gap last fiscal

705
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.280
year. It says athletics was responsible
for about thirty five million of that,

706
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.519
so it's not all it's not all
athletics, and they wanted to make a

707
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:50.880
point of that. So I read
it like you read it, you had

708
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.519
you and you'll tell them what you
told me about Robins Atien, but without

709
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:59.760
question, without question. And I'm
not the smartest guy in the room,

710
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:05.039
and I'm fine with that. Peaky
was an escapegoat to no end, right

711
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.679
to no end, and it feels
bad for him because of it. But

712
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:14.199
they had who knows what's what the
follow out is going to be afterward,

713
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:22.639
But but there's no question somebody there
abr governor whoever didn't want them there anymore,

714
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:27.199
right, ye say, yeah something
probably somebody on the border regions just

715
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.480
said, okay, we're going to
start here. Yeah. The story mentions

716
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:37.000
that the story mentions that the that
the athletic departments loaned eighty six million dollars

717
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.079
over over the last several years.
You know, it sounds like, you

718
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:43.280
know, if they if they're saying
they're only responsible for thirty five million of

719
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.840
this gap, that that the athletic
department maybe has paid some of it back,

720
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:50.639
or yeah, well this also hasn't
done any great details This year are

721
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.599
going to be didn't right, They're
going to have a thirty million dollar deficit

722
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.440
this year. Let's take this call. Hi, you're on the air,

723
00:45:55.480 --> 00:46:00.400
and eye on the ball. Yeah, good afternoon, gentlemen. You doing

724
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:02.960
How are you doing this? Rick? It is my friends, how are

725
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.440
you doing? Good? Good?
Thank you? What's going on? What's

726
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.119
one on your mind? Well,
you were talking about I heard you earlier.

727
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:15.400
You briefly touched on this budget for
the university, and it's no different

728
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:22.159
than the federal government. It's one
government entity after another where there's no requirement

729
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:30.679
to fulfill allan's budget, right,
and it's become the norm instead of and

730
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:35.039
we're finally catching up with it a
little bit. But I think you're young

731
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:38.880
man Kevin. That your intern there. Yeah, En, Rome's going to

732
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:45.760
go down, the cost of tuition
is going up, and students, you

733
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.039
know, frankly, I don't know
where they're coming up with the money to

734
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:54.920
go to four year university anymore.
Uh. It's the whole pitre financially for

735
00:46:55.000 --> 00:47:01.559
the state of Arizona as well as
the federal government, is how do we

736
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:07.440
manipulate the dollars to make us look
better. We're always going to be in

737
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:12.239
debt and they're just chasing debt is
what we're doing. They are, as

738
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.159
a lot of us do. But
you know, Fred Duvall has quoted that

739
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:19.519
that you said, it's clear that
the cost curve at the U of A

740
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.159
is unsustainable. That they have to
they have to make changes. And you

741
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:27.639
know whether or not that's you know, words, you know, just words

742
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.079
that are out there, or they're
actually going to do that. But as

743
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:32.480
you said, Rick, they have
to do something right that this is it

744
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.960
is unsustainable. You can't keep going
in the direction they've been going. You

745
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.800
can't keep raising tuition, you can't
keep you know, donors, you know,

746
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:44.199
you can't just rely on on donors
and endowments. Is you've got to

747
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:47.719
change the way you do business.
And we don't have to populate here that's

748
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:52.639
going to be able to sustain this
financial stat Yeah, well can I borrow?

749
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.519
They're gonna ask Rick, can you
borrow? Can we borrow a few

750
00:47:55.559 --> 00:48:02.000
billion? Rick? Maybe next year
here or maybe not? Yeah? Right,

751
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:05.760
But thanks to col Rich And that's
a great point, a good real

752
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.639
good point. Yeah, okay,
thanks about you. And then at the

753
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:14.079
end of the stat at the end
of this a really interesting, uh interesting

754
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:22.760
thing, it's that John Arnold again
the he's the he's the executive director of

755
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:24.920
the Border Regions. He's the one
that's leading this He's sort of the CFO.

756
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:29.760
Now he's just saying that, you
know, they're very happy with what

757
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:36.280
what uh uh uh Robbins is doing. A Fred Vault thanked Bobby Robbins.

758
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.119
Uh he said, uh. He
said, the university is quote unquote on

759
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:44.119
the right track today. It is
a strong university with world class teaching and

760
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:47.239
research and brilliant students. We have
a bright future. And he specifically thanked

761
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:53.840
uh Robins as well. So it
sounds like Robbins might be here to stay

762
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.519
for a while. And I don't
know he's if he's in as much trouble

763
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.119
as we were thinking. I don't
know. But all I know is if

764
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:05.480
if I'm if, I'm me and
you're my boss, Jay, and I'm

765
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:10.559
screwing up with moneies, moneys and
you've signed off on these moneies, what

766
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:14.599
you're part of this? Yeah?
No it is, Yeah, no,

767
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.920
it absolutely So. I don't know. Again, we're not in the room

768
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.280
right, we don't see exactly what's
going on. You know, did some

769
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.719
of this Did some of this happen
just out of inattention by Bobby Robbins,

770
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.800
You know, he thought things were
okay and nobody was telling him they weren't.

771
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:31.400
And then it turned out that they
weren't, and I was like,

772
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.960
Holy hell, what happened? But
it's hard to know. Let me ask

773
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:37.320
you, and I'm gonna be asking
this might be a tough question to Jay.

774
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:40.760
Okay, so we know, Michael, we lived in Michael for a

775
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:45.159
long time, twenty five years.
Whatever. You know, Michael, pretty

776
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:49.639
you've been around. Not that you
want to cut anybody's job, right,

777
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:53.079
But they have a lot of people
in that building, right Do they have

778
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:57.679
enough people in that building or too
many in that building? I'm asking you

779
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.679
now because your son is no longer
in that building, but you can you

780
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.360
that for It's hard. It's hard
to know. Like like I see the

781
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:08.519
the uh the communications staff, which
is what we see. They worked their

782
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:13.320
asses staff, you know, with
all the with all all the stuff that

783
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:17.599
goes on in athletics that they're understaff. But you know, marketing, uh,

784
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:22.400
some of the other areas. You
saw this huge staff that that that

785
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:28.559
uh jetfish brought in, you know, sort of an NFL type of front

786
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:32.440
office type staff, and you thought, you know, do you need all

787
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:37.360
of that? You know, accountants
and you know ticket people. I have

788
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.840
no idea. It seems to me
what it looks like is people are overworked

789
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:47.119
in Macaune. Is that the case
across campus? Right? It's hard to

790
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:52.280
know. You know, there's always
been an impression that that the u of

791
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:57.079
A is uh that in most colleges
are fat when it comes to you know,

792
00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:00.559
staffing and stuff like that. But
yet all the people that I know

793
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:02.840
the work at the u of A
or yeah, no, I get so,

794
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:07.559
I don't know. That's why I
ask. I do find it peculiar

795
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:12.280
that someone had a driver or the
right hand man who made decisions about who

796
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.119
we talked to. You really need
that guy? Yeah, I think Jed

797
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:20.000
had that guy back in the day. Either you talk to him or did

798
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.159
you talked to the coach and he
didn't? Right, So whatever price he's

799
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.519
getting paid, seventy five hundred thousand
whatever. Really, you used to be

800
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.000
able to go knock on Dick Tomy's
door and so used to be able to

801
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:30.800
walk into Loudolson's office. You need
to be able to walk into Jim live

802
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:32.960
in Goods office, and you can't
do that anymore. No, they can

803
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:37.880
manage it. No that so I'm
sure there was a couple a couple extra

804
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.599
guys that they don't need and that's
that was kind of my point. But

805
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:44.320
you know, an another point,
and we're run out of time here on

806
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:49.360
this, but how much has you
know, the whole the explosion of social

807
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.280
media, so the importance of marketing
yourself on social media. Now you got

808
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.639
more video people, you got more
graphics people, you got more social media

809
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:59.079
you've had. That's a lot of
staff. I mean, Jove has a

810
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:05.039
big staff dedicated to the visibility of
the program because you're you're you're managing your

811
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.239
visit. You're not just going to
the newspapers anymore to get yourself out there.

812
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You're creating, you're creating your own
stuff. Yeah, and and there's

813
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a lot to that as well.
Well, now you have a compliance guy

814
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traveling with the team everywhere, YadA
YadA. When building do that before,

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well, thank you Sean Miller for
that, because now they need to see

816
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what the coaches are gonna say.
Honestly that I hear you, I hear

817
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you, I hear you, the
kind of butterfi babysit. Yeah. Yeah.

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Anyways, all right, Well,
interesting topic. I'm sure we'll have

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more of it. We'll see some
more reaction to all of this over the

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next twenty four hours. We hope
you'll come back tomorrow, and as always,

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download the podcast, give it a
listen if you miss any of the

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show, and we'll be back tomorrow
some more great guests and uh we'll talk

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more about this and everything else going
on around athletics and sports and two Sunday.

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See you tomorrow,