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Welcome to Guardians Weekly on the Cleveland
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everyone, welcome to Guardians Weekly.
Gim Rosen House along with you from Goodyear

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Arizona and Guardian Spring Training. As
we get deeper and deeper into camp under

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three weeks to go now until the
season opener in Oakland on March the twenty

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eighth, and a lot of good
battles going on for certain spots on the

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roster, and we'll get to some
of that a little bit later on as

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Matt Foreman, the assistant general manager, stop by and talked with Tom Hamilton

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during the game broadcast on Friday afternoon. Also on our show today, we'll

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visit with Daniel S. Spino,
who's trying to come back from injury and

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reclaim some of his prospect status on
the mound, and we will also visit

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with Gold Glove winner and one of
the top defensive players in the game today

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second basement, Andre Simenez, as
he gets ready for a new season.

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But first we'll talk pitching with young
starting pitcher Logan Allen, one of three

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rookies in the rotation. A season
ago, Allen went seven to eight in

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twenty four major league starts with an
ERA of three point eight one, and

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when we caught up with them earlier
this spring, he reflected on the season

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ago, Oh, and where it
leads to this coming year. I definitely

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was, you know, very thankful
and excited to have that opportunity to debut.

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Obviously really happy to stick around and
continue to make starts and continue to

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continue to stay healthy. I think
the biggest thing is realizing that, you

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know right where I belong. I
felt at home up there, and you

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know, taking the like I said, taking the lessons and little things that

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mishaps in the previous season, just
try to do whatever I can to prevent

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them from happening in the future.
This time a year ago, you're in

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major league camp for for a while. Did you think, based on what

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you saw and how you were feeling, that if there was an opportunity that

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that you might get the call and
be able to pitch in the major leagues

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last year? Yeah, absolutely,
I think, you know, it was

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a big thing that TL definitely kept
us ready for as knowing that we're in

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camp for a reason. They have
us here for a reason, and we're

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kind of that next next group up, so just kind of got to be

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ready when our name is called.
And yeah, I was definitely thankful to

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get that opportunity. Probably came a
little bit sooner than a lot of people

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would have expected, but like,
I just got to take it and roll

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with it, and I was very
thankful. You know, obviously the circumstances

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aren't always the best, but that's
kind of how it goes in this business.

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But uh no, I was definitely
very thankful to have that opportunity and

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show that I can belong and you
prove that I'm able to stick around.

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You mentioned belonging. Was there a
point in time where that clicked in or

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was it from your debut game on
that that you really felt like, hey,

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I can do this. I would
say I probably walked around for the

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first two three weeks kind of like
on edge, like every day, not

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really feeling comfortable. And I think
I've probably about a month and it's set

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in where I started feel comfortable come
to the field every day and it didn't

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feel is you know, eyes wide
open, kind of you felt fell that

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home a little bit borre this organization
is so good pitching wise in so many

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ways. So when you get to
the end of the season, can you

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share some of the things that that
they said, Hey, you know,

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maybe try this and this might help
you be more effective in the future.

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I think what they did they were
able to look at kind of my usage,

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just percentage is and just you know, clean some things up, maybe

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draw back from a one pitch here
there, ad add some more to something

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to another one. But I think
that's the biggest thing is just understanding,

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you know what guys were facing,
where we went wrong, where guys were

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able to have success against me,
and kind of use that to backtrack and

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see what we can do to prepare
for them. So you head into the

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off season and it's amazing most pictures
find catchers to catch them, which you

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would think might be difficult, but
maybe it's not. In your family,

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explain what's going on there. Yeah, Yah, I'm definitely very lucky.

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You got older brother that is two
years older, has been a catcher's whole

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life, so obviously me being a
pitcher, we still work out together and

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he's able to catch all my bullpens, be out there every day with me

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to throw, so very thankful,
very lucky to have him, and he

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definitely keeps me ready for the season. And it seems like things are moving

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and progressing very quickly here this spring
for just about everybody. The full roster

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was in early. How long have
you been here and how are you progressing

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and compared to maybe years past,
I've been here for about a month.

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Yeah, feel all settled in,
Feel ready to go. You know,

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you got games rolling in here in
the next at the end of the week,

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so ready for that as well,
and just you know, ready to

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get the ball rolling. And honestly
you're ready to get into April and get

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the season going. But no,
these these games are important for the tune

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up and everything, but you no, definitely looking forward to April getting getting

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started. And certainly last year,
your first major league camp, you're trying

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to leave an impression. Uh,
there's a nice body of work that you

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put together a year ago. Do
you approach things any differently this spring?

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I think there is a little bit
different. I think last year there was

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more of an expectation of coming into
camp day one kind of game ready,

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whereas this year, I think there's
a little bit more of treating spring spring

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training as a progression into into game
speed. So I think that's a little

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bit different in terms of, you
know, maybe getting ramped up about a

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month later than probably in seasons past. But yeah, I think it's definitely

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nice having a little bit of experience
on the belt. But I'm still in

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that same position where still got to
fight first spot, still got to earn

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it, and it's all I'm trying
to do every day. That's Logan Allen,

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one of three rookie starters in the
rotation a year ago who really probably

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too dramatic to say that they saved
the season, but really provided some encouraging

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signs for that starting rotation heading into
this year. One of the others,

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the former number one draft pick,
the big right hander Gavin Williams, who

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made sixteen major league starts, was
three and five with an ERA of three

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point twenty nine and very much like
Logan Allen. When we caught up with

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Gavin earlier this spring, he talked
about how pleased he was with what happened

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a year ago. Yeah, I
mean, I knew I could play up

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there. Just looking back at that
it was tremendous. I think overall had

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a good year, but there's definitely
things that could work on. Yeah,

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that's what I would say. And
what's the feedback that you get that helps

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you in the off season for specific
things to work on it to make sure

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that you're the best you can be
this year. Yeah, just talking with

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the pitching coaches and then the strength
coaches and just people in the training room,

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see what I could work on,
what they have for me so I

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could come back in spring training.
And last year obviously started in the minor

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leagues. This year your first major
league camp. What been like some of

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the highlights for you so far?
Oh? Yeah, it was kind of

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crazy. I started in Double A
last year, made my way up,

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and then this year actually being here
for big league spring training. It's kind

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of exciting be my first one.
In terms of teammates that help you.

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What did you find last year in
terms of obviously your coaching staff is going

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to help you, but in terms
of teammates that can help you, and

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even this spring, I mean just
asking questions. I know have asked Tristan

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and Beeb's and last year I was
asking Cal a lot of questions. So

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just keeping on with that. If
I don't know some just ask when you

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look at the Cleveland Guardians are known
for pitching. You've been through the system.

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It seems like they did it right
in terms of when to bring you

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up, when to move you a
level. What is it in your mind

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that makes this an organization that's so
successful pitching wise. I mean, they

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just know how to develop pictures.
You can just see it from a long

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time ago. It's always been a
thing they've done, so, I mean,

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it's pretty awesome to be in this
organization as a pitcher. Anything specific

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that they did for you that you
think maybe even sped your process along,

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although it was pretty quick anyway.
Yeah, I had a few mechanical adjustments

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I made, and then just being
able to keep the VLA of where it

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was and have it honestly coming up
a little bit higher and below. It

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was one of the things that helped
me out moving forward. Consistency always a

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hard thing to achieve at the major
league level. What do you think you

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can do to be as consistent as
possible this season? Yeah, I think

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just being will throw all speed,
all speed pitches more in the zone for

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strikes, and then being able to
put the fastball where I want to repeat

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my delivery at that really, and
you're trying to make a rotation here to

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start the season that has some big
names coming back from injury, and when

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you look in that room, how
much do you feed off of each other

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in terms of what you could do
and what this rotation could be? Yeah,

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I think the are the sky's the
limit. Really, everybody knows what

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we can do, and just be
able to learn different things from each other

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is going to help everybody out.
Team wise. College you were part of

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some really good teams, so you
have a pretty good idea of what it

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takes your sense in anything early on
in the spring that has your feeling really

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good about the possibilities for this club
this season. I mean, just feeding

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off our inergy from last year and
what we did with everybody, I think

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we can take that onto this season. That's Gavin Williams one of the top

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young starting pitchers in the game today
and along with Tanner Biby and Logan Allen,

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those three had tremendous rookie seasons and
should be mainstays in the rotation at

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the start of twenty twenty four.
And a good pitching and good defense go

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together, they always do, and
the Guardians have one of the best defenders

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at second base in the game today, and that is multi time Gold Glove

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Award winner Andre Simenez. We'll come
back and talk to him when we return

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Welcome back to Guardians Weekly. Jim
Rosenhouse back with you from Goodyear Ballpark in

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Goodyear, Arizona and Guardians Spring training, and certainly for the Guardian's defense will

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be a big key. Any team
that pitches well needs good defense, and

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they have multiple Gold Glove Award winners
sprinkled throughout the Diamond, none more prolific

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than Andre Cimenez, the Guardian's second
Basement. Last year once again a tremendous

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year defensively, put up some good
offensive numbers, but he won his second

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consecutive Goal Glove Award and also won
the Platinum Glove Award in the American League

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for the best defender overall regardless of
positions. So to say he had a

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great defensive season might be understating it. And when we caught up with him,

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along with translation help from Agi,
Rivero Andres talked about the season that

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he had after some rule changes were
handed down that really seemed to highlight some

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of his defensive skills. Oyament,
you know, they think it feels good

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to be doc to Camino healthy and
seeing what we did last year. But

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obviously he was an adjustment. The
first months of the season ad just into

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the new rule was quite a challenge
for me, but I was able to

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adjust properly, And I think the
satisfaction comes to being able to help with

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pitchers help down, you know,
like they keep their owners down and help

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the team in a way to get
to win more games. So I feel

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like early on the season was a
struggle, but we're glad to finish in

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a strong note. Defensively, I
think one of the side benefits of no

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shifts was it for players like you
allowed for better great plays because you had

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to go further. Did you kind
of embrace that and enjoy that the idea

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that you could make some spectacular plays
because of not being able to shift,

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Like, yeah, I mean obviously
with the shift, you also had to

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push yourself to get those balls.
You know, previously I had to push

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myself sometimes to get down to the
outfield to catch some balls. But here

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is the same. I always have
to push myself to make that extra play

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because you know, I take a
lot of pride in my difference. I'm

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really passionate about playing difference and in
the way how I can help the team.

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So I believe those changes. Still, it was the same mindset for

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me to try to do my best
and and keep playing the difference I didn't

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I can play offensively some ups and
downs last year, and when you were

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going good, I think we saw
a similar hitter to what we had seen

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the year before. What was challenging
for you a year ago that you were

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trying to get to more consistently,
that that could be a struggle at times.

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So yeah, I feel like,
you know, as we know,

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always things that you know, ups
and downs I go through the season,

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but I embraced that process as the
as the lessons I needed to learn,

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and I take it like that things
that I needed to to to do it

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to keep improving. And this year
and when I continually put that in practice,

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and then specifically last year, I
felt like my mindset was a little

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more like like trying to chase what
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and the plate and not necessarily what
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So I was able to learn,
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of the season and ended in a
positive note that I was able to execute

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my plan what he wanted to do
in the plate and not only what the

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pitches wanted to do with me at
the play. When you look at your

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off season, you spend most of
it in Florida. Uh, take us

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back a couple of years you played
in Venezuela and winter ball. Explain the

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fans here who have never seen it
or been there, what's that like for

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especially for someone who's from there and
and and grew up there pro It's really

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hard to put into wards. To
be honest, I'll try to do my

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best with this crabby, but I
think it's just the level of passion that

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is perceived during the games. Right
when you are doing going well, you

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know, you get really like elevated
to a higher level that you're not recognized

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normally here as a player. But
also when you don't do well, you

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also you put down as as the
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So obviously for us, the guys
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were not able to play this season, we're able to enjoy it. Watch

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on TV. It was a really
good tournament that just finished recently. And

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but again it's really hard to put
into wards. I just invite the fans

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here in the US to take a
look at it, because a really excited

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and passionate league to follow. So
you come in here well rested for a

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new season, ready to go.
You've been here a while now, it

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seems like you were just breaking in, but but you have some good experience

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under your belt. Uh, do
you kind of feel like one of the

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veterans on this team at this point
or is that hard to even wrap your

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head around? So if you,
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veteran yet, you know, like, let's let's keep remember that I'm twenty

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five, right, so you know, let's just try to keep the war

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bedterund away for a little bit because
I consider myself, you know, a

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little more experienced, right, and
I've been here for four years already,

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so this will be my fourth season, and obviously I can share a little

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bit with the younger guys, but
again it's more like my experience and not

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necessarily that I'm a veteran persone.
Right, we'll stay away from veterans fair

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enough. You look at the team, you've been here, when this team

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has been on a real good role
and made the postseason. What are you

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seeing in that clubhouse early on that
that gives you hope that that this could

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be another real special season. For
this team, it's really enjoyable what we

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have there. Obviously you see a
lot of new faces in the clubhouse,

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but at the same time, the
good byes continued right there. Just carry

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on to what we had last year. Obvious the last year difficulty, it

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would always, you know, the
result that we wanted in a lot of

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injuries for the teammates. So for
me, it's you know, enjoying that

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good cammaderie and like environment that we
have built for each other, but also

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hoping everybody's very healthy so we can
so we're able to play the game that

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we know, the baseball that we
know we can play. That is Andre

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Cimenez along with translation help from Agi
Raferro and Andrea seems primed for another great

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defensive year and he's looking to crank
it up again at the plate after the

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numbers slipped just a little bit a
year ago. Stay with us when we

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come back. We will visit with
Daniel Espino, a young, promising young

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pitching prospect who's been hampered by injuries
the last couple of seasons, but Cleveland

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looking to get him back on the
bound yere in twenty twenty four. That's

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next as we continue with Guardians Weekly
after this time. Welcome back to Guardians

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Weekly. Shimros in house along with
you from Guardian Spring Training and Goodyear Arizona.

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Great to have you with us as
we talked baseball on the radio.

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Spring training heading deeper and deeper into
the month of March. Under three weeks

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to go now until opening night in
Oakland on Thursday night, March the twenty

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eighth, right around the corner and
tracking nicely for an opening day started hasn't

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officially been announced, but the way
it's tracking in terms of lining up days,

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Shane Bieber will make another one for
the Guardians, and he really looks

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primed and ready to go. And
one of the keys every year for Cleveland

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is good starting pitching. They have
hit on something in their development system that

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works, Shane Bieber being a great
example of that as he was drafted and

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developed by the Guardians organization and obviously
has had a tremendous major league career and

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they are hoping still hoping for more
of the same from Daniel Espino, a

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twenty three year old right hander out
of Panama City, Panama. He was

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the first round pick twenty fourth overall
by Cleveland back in twenty nineteen, and

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he had some good years when he
first got started, but he has really

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struggled to stay on the mound since
the twenty twenty two campaign began. He

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had a knee issue first that took
a while to get pasted, and then

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shoulder surgery last summer really has set
him back and he just hasn't been able

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to make much progress. But had
a good off season, and when we

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caught up with them earlier this spring, he filled us in on where he

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stands in terms of the rehab and
when he might be able to return to

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the mound in game action. Yeah, you know, I'm going through a

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throw throwing progression, feeling good,
getting more reps, feel more comfortable each

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time I'm throwing a ball. So
so yeah, that's kind of like where

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I'm at right now. You were
making good progress when injuries cropped up?

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How can you handle that mentally?
Maybe more so than than the physical rehab

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part. You know, at the
beginning, it was tough. It was

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it was really trying to get back, and mentally it was really tough because

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he was my never being hurt.
It was my like my first time actually

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going through that. But I think
that that I've learned through through the ups

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and downs, and I've learned how
to manage my head my head and being

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able to you know, attack each
day and be happy and no matter the

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circumstances. I think that that's one
of the keys, and try to get

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better each day, and that looks
so much like the future. Just take

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it day by day and that that's
gonna set you off for the future.

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Tristan mackenzie has had great success in
the major leagues, but he too has

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had injury issues, especially in the
minor leagues when he was trying to get

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here for the first time. I
understand he's talked to you and you guys

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have had conversations and how beneficial has
that been and what did he say to

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you that's been helpful? Yeah,
basically just take it day by day.

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You know, when I got drafted, he was going through some of the

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injuries in twenty nineteen. So just
watching him go through that, it was

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kind of like an example for me. He went about his business and you

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know, taking it day by day
and stuff like that is something that sure

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like I was able to watch it
and then he backed it up with his

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words and he's like, yeah,
he's working for him. I kind of

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like tried it, so so yeah, I think that not only that,

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but also like talking to the feesios, people in the training room, the

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training stuffs and see everybody just take
a day by day just kind of like

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is everything up, and just go
enjoy throwing a baseball. I mean,

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I was at surgery May May second. I had like six months without throwing,

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and now it's the time for me
to enjoy what I missed the most,

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which is throwing a baseball. Sometimes
when a player is hurt and they

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miss extensive time and they can't do
the physical part of it, they watch

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a lot and they can learn through
that and when they come back they might

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be more. They've learned some things
that make them a better picture. Do

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you feel that that you've been able
to do that during your downtime, Yeah,

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definitely. I look forward to some
of the sprint training games and just

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being able to be in the dugout
and just being able to, you know,

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watch guys lasts Cookie, Shane Beaver
and all those guys, you know,

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like even the young guys Vibe and
and and Logan. Just being able

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to watch them how they attack.
And I think I'm more punked about just

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to be able to be in the
dougout. I think that's gonna be kind

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of cool. Daniel Lespainou joining US
UH born and raised. You're a Panama

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native if you get back there as
often as you can. But high school,

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most of it was in Georgia.
Explain how you got here and the

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benefit to that. Yeah, he
was through a through a family friend.

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He kind of like told us about
an opportunity of an academy called Abony Albany

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Police which they take people, young
guys around and chow them to tryouts and

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stuff like that around the US South
Georgia, Florida. And I was able

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to to, you know, make
a trial for Joia Premier Academy. They

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accepted me apparently I was kind of
good or they looked in the future and

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they were like, yeah, he's
gonna be somebody. And you know that

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has been like my second family did
sophomore, junior, senior year there.

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When I was there, I was
basically like one of them. Jean Reynolds,

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the guy that runs the fact,
the the the academy there, he's

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like my second dad, and you
know, he's meansfuled out and I'm always

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proud to say that that I was
able to be part of that academy,

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and obviously it had a positive impact
on your life. But tell me,

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though, when you made that decision
to go, before you got there,

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how nervous were you about it working
out and leaving your family behind in Panama?

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So I think I wasn't really nervous. I think I didn't understand like

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the magnitude of it because I told
my mom, like, if you don't

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let me go, she was really
nervous. I told my mom, like,

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if you don't let me go,
like you're gonna root my future.

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And it's kind of like, you
know, like now that I think about

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it, it's like your son is
telling you that, like why can you

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do? So I think like she
was more nervous mostly anybody. But then

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like little by little, we were
seeing the results. And one thing that

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they always talk to me and told
me is that don't let baseball beat the

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ending point, meaning like you gotta
get an education and all that. And

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I think that was one of the
reasons why they kind of like were okay,

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like this is a good fit.
Obviously they went and sawhere or it

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was gonna be they sell the people
I was gonna be and wanting that.

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I that I I'm always gonna be
thankful for is that I went there because

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of baseball, but I think in
the academy like it made me who I

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am right now more as a person, and in my faith, it kind

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of like sat like uh, like
the building bricks to to where I'm at

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right now. So I'm always thank
thankful for that. This is your first

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major league camp. What's that experience
been like? Even though you can't participate

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in a lot of what's going on
physically, what's it been like being around

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the major league staff and also the
different pictures that you probably have watched quite

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a bit. It's been really fun. It's been really I know you're starting.

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It's been really fun just to be
in the locker talk to some of

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the guys, older veterans or people
or guys like me which is their first

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the first beat league camp. But
also especially for me right now since I

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had I had surgery, been talking
to to Vogue, to the manager and

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all that because he had the same
surgery. So it's kind of like cool

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to be able to talk to him. And I think that he kind of

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like understands what I'm going through.
So so yeah, he's been he's been

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fun, just doing PFPS and everything
like that. I mean, I think,

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uh, I think on Monday it
was my first time that I was

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catching some grave balls in the last
what year I have, So that was

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really exciting. I think that that
just enjoying the little things, man like

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able to be here. I'm blessed
and and just happy that I'm part of

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this team. You know, you
mentioned where you're at in terms of throwing

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four days a week and it's a
slow process. Have you learned a lot

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about patients through this and and how
you really have to just dial it down

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and take your time. Yeah,
I think it's something that you're never gonna

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master. I think it's something that
you'll go every single day and and and

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you know, you try to be
good at it. And definitely, yeah,

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my patient, my patient has grown
a lot. But I think that

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not so much that I think it
goes more to to just enjoying where you're

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at, accepting it and being like, Okay, this is where I'm at

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today. What can I do now? Instead of asking like why this is

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happening to me? You know,
it's so easy to get cout in those

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negative questions and stuff that you don't
know the answers, and then okay,

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like what now, Like I'm here, what am I going to do to

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get better? It might not be
like throwing in a game, but yeah,

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I can work on my mechanics.
I can work on like moving more

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smooth and stuff like that. So
yeah, I think that's that's where I'm

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at right now. I think just
enjoying every time that I'm able to to,

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you know, to be here and
try to learn a little thing every

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single day. And it's Daniel Lespino
in it what a store in terms of

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moving here at at a very young
age, moving to the United States from

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Panama, and how he has really
taken a great outlook on that move and

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it has been a tremendous life experience
for him. And if he can get

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healthy, man, he has a
rocket arm and could really be special,

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but it's going to take getting healthy
first, and it looks like he's on

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a good path at least so far
this spring. Stay with us when we

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come back, we'll hear from Assistant
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broadcast of Friday's game against the White
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general manager Matt Foreman and Hammy and
Matt talked about all things spring training with

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a lot of issues on the table, and here's what they had to say.

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First off, Matt, your thoughts
on what you've seen from Tanner?

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Heym, it's good to be on
And I's gonna say, unlike court Bery

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trip yesterday, I was listening to
the broadcast, I'm gonna try not to

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bring the rain in the third game
today, but no tent, so far,

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so good from from Tanner. I
was a little bit late getting over

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to the game today, so I
missed the early action. But you know,

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Tanner's so business like in his work, so focused on continuous improvement.

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Certainly had a great rookie campaign and
excited about him continuing to build from the

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foundation that he set. Shane Bieber
looked good yesterday. In fact, Stephen

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Volte said this morning before the rains
came, his stuff was electric and in

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visiting with Shane, I mean he
is in such a good frame of mind

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right now. It looks like he
is poised to have a monster year.

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I think you're right. I mean, a unanimous cy young winner in twenty

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twenty who continues to invest in the
craft of pitching, and you know,

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I think he fell in love with
the process of getting better and better this

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offseason. Really, for the most
part, Matt, all the starters have

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looked good. What are your concerns
as far as the bullpen, especially with

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Trevor Stephen and James Karenshak they won't
be ready obviously for Oakland and beyond.

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Yeah. I think one of the
things that we talk about all the time

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is that you need a bounty of
players to get through a season, right.

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I think we probably ended up using
twenty five pitchers last year and fifty

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players, and so a big part
of the message in spring training is ever

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player who's in the locker room has
a chance to impact us over the course

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of the season, and it speaks
to the importance of building depth and resiliency

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throughout the roster, but certainly in
the bullpen is no different. Matt Foreman,

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assistant general manager with the Cleveland Guardians
joining us here in Goodyear. I

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thought it was interesting today and visiting
with manager Steven Vote, Matt, everyone

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talks about Gabriel Aarius and Brian Rocchio
in the battle for short here's the wine

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in the two to one, and
I guess it was outside a cutter three

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in one, but Stephen Vote was
saying, Hey, look other guys are

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in that hunt too, Tyler Freeman
and the kid that's really opened eyes on

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hell Martinez. How do you look
at it? Well, at some point

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we'll have to make tough decisions,
and I can promise you Steven will have

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a line up on opening day.
So you're not going to give us the

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call right now. Well, until
then, I think our focus is help

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each player get better. You know, we're preparing for for a long season

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and guys are still taking strides,
so that's really our focus. But certainly,

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you know, Steven mentioned on Hell
Martinez had a great offseason. Credit

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to him for being open minded to
try the outfield, where he trained a

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lot this offseason in the outfield,
and he's built some versatility and certainly has

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had great at bats so far in
camp. So in on Hell Martinez,

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even last year man he'd played,
I don't want to say it was a

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split, but it was close.
Third second short in the minors. Could

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he be an everyday short stop?
Sure? I think you know, we're

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of the mind that it's really hard
to predict exactly what players' skills will be

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or where opportunities will present themselves,
and so our focuses helped players develop defensive

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capacity at a number of positions to
prepare themselves for opportunities down the road,

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regardless of where they may come.
Okay, we've seen Rochio, we've seen

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Arius. Let's take Jose Tana,
Tyler Freeman and on Hell Martinez out of

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the equation for this question. What
decides if it's Rochio on Arius? Do

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the numbers this spring decided? Or
how do you how do you look at

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that? Well, I think it's
easy to overread spring training performances and certainly

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there's a there's a body of work
that we're relying on, and I think

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the process uh information is really important. You know, how guys are going

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about their work, what their attention
to detail is, what's happening away from

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you know, just the fifty played
appearances that that we'll have outcomes on in

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Major league spring training games is also
really important. And as I mentioned,

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you know we'll have a line up
on opening day, but you know,

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opening day is an artificial marker in
the calendar whereby just like we talked about

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on the pitching side, we'll have
many players impact us over the course of

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the season, and we want to
create as many opportunities for those guys to

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be able to do so for us
can chase the latter beyond the opening day

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fun to watch. Hasn't he the
policy? Impressive? He really is.

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Obviously he's missed a lot of development
time. Have you figured out where he

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starts this year? Akron Columbus.
We haven't figured that out yet, but

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Kwan with a dribbler headed towards second
shoemaker will throw him out. Well,

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I'll tell you what. I didn't
even get to ask you who the first

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pick in the draft's going to be? Can you figure do you want to

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tell us quick? Do you have
the answer to it? I figured you

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would tell us. Doesn't matter what
I think in your crystal ball. Well,

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I'll tell you what the politically correct. Matt Foreman joining us. Man,

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Thanks so much, Thanks so much. That's Assistant general manager Matt Foreman

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with Tom Hamilton during the game broadcast
of Friday's game against the White Sox Guardians.

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Back at it on Saturday, another
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the Angels in Town, and that's
a three zero five first pitch from Goodyear

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Ballpark. Well, we'll join you
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