1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:08,039 Hellas and gentlemen, and welcome to the final XMON ninety seven season one review, 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,880 the finale. I'm the clown Prince of Farewells trest Snell, and I'm 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:17,839 joined by I am the genetic inferior Kirkland Patzer, I'm their hardcast, Dyl 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:23,199 Muss Yah I Taylor Field. Yes, Asia, and we have done it. 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,079 This has been a long, long road, as we've talked about one 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,120 of our biggest retros of all time, just behind me and Taylor's Clone Wars 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,280 one many months over. I can't remember what it was. We clocked into 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,200 like ten to eleven months of that retrol. Then we got to the series, 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,640 did that nine episodes, and here we are to end it off XMN 10 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:46,159 ninety seven. The rumors are hopefully like late twenty twenty five for the next 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,799 season, but like those are just like Sea Tier rumors right now. I'm 12 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:53,000 not gonna get too excited as long since next year I will. I'll be 13 00:00:53,079 --> 00:00:57,240 happy with that. But yeah, and this is the not the end point, 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,200 because we still got Deadpool and Wolverine coming up. But this is the 15 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,359 midway point for the season of x We've done lots of these episodes. We've 16 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,879 done four exclusive X Men episodes about talking about X Men versus Avengers, what 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,840 movie we'd want, what ross we'd want. We've done a fan cast draft 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,200 for the villains, the heroes, and today just drop the supporting cast. 19 00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:19,239 If you look on patron you can see the ross rut there. And those 20 00:01:19,239 --> 00:01:23,159 are really fun episodes. You should check out the newest one because we were, 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,480 as we said, scraping the barrel because we've been on that one. 22 00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:29,760 Yeah, we're getting up to like thirty four reactors now, you know, 23 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,159 and that's well, no, what was the math. It was because we 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:37,920 all selected, so we had already done like eighty eighty actors before we did 25 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,040 yesterday's draft. So yeah, it was. It was tough. There's a 26 00:01:41,079 --> 00:01:44,200 couple of names, a couple last mint Google searches, but a good time. 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,439 And yeah, Russians that nobody's heard of before exactly image online. Yeah, 28 00:01:49,079 --> 00:01:53,519 yeah, shout out to that guy. Uh Me and Dylan did a 29 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,200 side quest on X Men Legends three. I hope we get that one day 30 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,760 because and Kirklin was also there. Yeah, support us, supporting us, 31 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:07,560 and uh yeah, and right now currently the X Men retros are re releasing. 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,840 We're just talking about him. Been the feeds for many years, and 33 00:02:09,439 --> 00:02:13,879 back in the day we record one for Apocalypse, but the audio was the 34 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:19,159 old mics was terrible. So I've roped them into I'm gonna get as Kirkla's 35 00:02:19,159 --> 00:02:22,319 not deemed it. The Nasty Boys, me, Kirkland and Kyle, we're 36 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:25,039 gonna get to back together and record the one X and retro we had not 37 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,039 done. Maybe I'll ask them to be on the Deadpool logans ones because we're 38 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:31,360 gonna record those, because those are older than five years. But at least 39 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,680 for sure Apocalypse and Kirklin wasn't. Actually, kirk wasn't on any of those 40 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,360 X reviews as well, like none of the Deadpools, none of the logans. 41 00:02:38,439 --> 00:02:42,280 So was I not on the Apocalypse? I could have sworn I was. 42 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,520 You weren't. I think that might have been right after you had left. 43 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,080 That's why I think I thought I was in the theater watching bad mics. 44 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,360 You know, I'm sure it's it's cracking audio. I found it. 45 00:02:51,439 --> 00:02:53,080 But yeah, so we're gonna get I was quite as a mouse back then 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,719 too, so it's probably just a couple of members here. Would you say? 47 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,599 What'd you say? But yeah, so lots of good x in content 48 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:02,080 and let's just other good things you got side quest or Vieo game show. 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,759 We're gonna be talking about hell Blade next week. Got Strangers of You coming 50 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,639 up, Furiosa review coming up, and then June just backed with gosh, 51 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:15,599 what is it? Acolyte the Boys, Rings of Powers coming up. So 52 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,840 lots of good stuff. So thank you to everyone that has listened to these 53 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:20,159 episodes. It's gonna be some good stuff. Everything you need to know is 54 00:03:20,199 --> 00:03:22,960 down below. You get all those episodes, ad free, get many episodes 55 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,199 exclusive early a nice RSS feed, poles always more poles will be coming out 56 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:30,240 soon for monthly retros. 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We got some got some good luck this episode, but Taylor the 64 00:03:55,719 --> 00:04:00,639 luck aside, How are you feeling about the final episode of season one? 65 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,800 Yeah, the final episode, Holy smokes, it's full steam ahead and then 66 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:13,599 some That's what I'll say. Uh, it's it's full surprises. They just 67 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,480 pull out so many different heavy punches and it was just it was high octane. 68 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,000 I love this episode. It was really really a fun time and I 69 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:27,360 felt like that it ends in a in an area that I feel very content 70 00:04:27,439 --> 00:04:29,800 with. We feel like, okay, this is our current story. I 71 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,519 feel like is uh it's being told it's up to this point very very well, 72 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,800 and I feel like, Okay, now we're we're going to see things 73 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,240 with these characters. At this point in this episode. It just has me 74 00:04:41,319 --> 00:04:45,759 really excited for what's to come in the upcoming seasons and whatnot. It's just 75 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,759 I think that the show it's great, and I don't think that they literally 76 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,480 for being within that half hour mark. I'm pretty sure it was half It 77 00:04:53,519 --> 00:04:56,040 was no, it was forty This was long. So it was forty four 78 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,639 minutes? Was it really forty four five? It did not feel like it 79 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,439 ship then I'm glad that it was longer. It was thirty of those minutes 80 00:05:03,439 --> 00:05:11,040 were just Charles and Magnus's storyline. You're talking. Yeah, yeah, come 81 00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:15,560 on, that's like I don't remember that ship being that long. But I 82 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,959 think that they managed to. Uh they told what they needed to tell within 83 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,079 this timeframe. And uh, I'm trying to beat around the bush because I 84 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,279 just everything I want to say it's going to be spoilers. It's a huge, 85 00:05:26,879 --> 00:05:30,600 huge Bush sny Bush. Yeah, Haley retro dropping this week for you 86 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:38,079 patrons. Yeah, then it's it's it's a good episode. I am super 87 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,800 I'm just super happy with it. And I think that I just I want 88 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,319 more X Men, I really really do good. That's great. You know 89 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,279 they're all unfortunately don't have much on the Disney Plus and Wayne Forrexman Evolution to 90 00:05:49,319 --> 00:05:51,720 come there, hopefully, I think you'd enjoy that. Where is that? 91 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,079 Why is that not on Disney? I don't know. We don't have that. 92 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,959 We don't have Wolverine and the X Men either, which I've truthfully never 93 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,279 full fully seen the full thing. I've said the word falls many times, 94 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,439 but I hear great things about it. So I'd like Disney America. Disney 95 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:09,120 Plus has that, so I'd like that to change. But X Men Evolution 96 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,000 that's uh. I was a big fan of that back in the day too, 97 00:06:12,079 --> 00:06:15,279 So I've never heard of the Wolverine and the X Men before, heard 98 00:06:15,319 --> 00:06:19,959 of evolutions or Taylor As I was pitching Kirkland before this cast started. You 99 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:24,920 could start watching the Spider Man animated series, and the X Men do appear 100 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,720 in that for two episodes. There's a big crossover episode about if spier Man's 101 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,319 a mutant, and there's lots of great like just Wolverine in Spierman fighting alone 102 00:06:31,439 --> 00:06:33,879 is worth the price omissions, I'm saying if you're missing that, like, 103 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,720 same voice, actors, everything, same animation. Yeah, same animation so 104 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,839 obviously older not all of them, like the Wolverine guys, the same one 105 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,600 some but like the same as the original OG show, Like obviously they swap 106 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,120 some actors here, but yeah, it's the same universe. So I'm telling 107 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,680 you there's some good stuff. What's the episode and I just skipped to that 108 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:55,319 specific Nope, nope, you gotta watch it. You gotta earn it. 109 00:06:55,639 --> 00:06:59,199 Yeah, you gotta, you gotta earn it done. Did this finale earn 110 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,959 some stripes at the the stripes The stripes have been earned. I really enjoyed 111 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:09,360 this. This was a fun finale. There's something about it, though that's 112 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,439 holding me back, and I think it's because it it's like, this is 113 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,160 an ending, but it's like it's really not conclusive in any way, and 114 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,360 I feel like this is just a thing that every show does these days, 115 00:07:18,399 --> 00:07:21,480 and it really bothers me, or at least the shows that I that are 116 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:27,120 my favorite are ones that actually do have nice conclusive endings. So I guess 117 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,720 there's a part of me that it just doesn't really feel over yet. And 118 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:32,000 now as you're saying, like, you know, rumors are pointing to maybe 119 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,399 we have to wait like a year and a half or something, and that's 120 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,680 a long time away. So that's that's too bad. But no, there's 121 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,800 a lot of really great stuff that happens in this episode. I think I've 122 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:45,720 kind of seen the righting on the wall for certain characters and storylines in the 123 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:47,199 last couple episodes, just being like, I don't think we're gonna have the 124 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,439 time to really stick the landing on these and that ended up being the case. 125 00:07:50,439 --> 00:07:54,800 But then other characters did get some really great moments here. There's some 126 00:07:54,839 --> 00:07:59,839 fun classic combo attacks and all that, and you know, some fun cameo, 127 00:08:00,399 --> 00:08:03,000 So this was this was a really good time. But I do feel 128 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,480 like with this show, I get it started out so freaking strong, it 129 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:11,720 said the bar so high, hm, and it like just slightly under delivered. 130 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:13,160 So that's still, like, you know, evens out to be a 131 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:16,560 very, very quality show, but I don't know something about it. It's 132 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,560 not like it fell off by any means, but it just I don't know. 133 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,399 I feel like I was way more in it the first few episodes I 134 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:26,199 than I did with this maybe the last three partter and closing it out, 135 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:28,000 so that's too bad, but I still had a really good time with it 136 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,559 overall. So I'm gonna go next because I'm gonna ask you a question because 137 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:37,120 I think I'm similar to you. I don't think I'm as low and not 138 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:39,639 saying your Lona, but not as low. But at the same time, 139 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,279 do you think if the quality of the episodes of the whole show was just 140 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,039 like the back half, would you've been much more higher? Because like I 141 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,799 think, like I'm saying, just compared like six to ten to the original 142 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,919 series, would you still consider that a big step up? Well, I 143 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:58,039 feel like a lot of the crazier plot twist thing like things that I would 144 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:00,559 not have expected. Like it's like, I can't believe that went there, 145 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,120 those sort of decisions all and I have to go back to the episode. 146 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,799 I feel like those things happened in the first half of the season, and 147 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,360 so the second half was really just like putting the pieces back together, and 148 00:09:09,399 --> 00:09:13,720 so maybe it wasn't as shocking or wowing in that way, and it kind 149 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,759 of just went back to, like, I don't know, a very consistent 150 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,320 quality, but wasn't blowing me away in that same extent. So I don't 151 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,639 know's it's I feel like the quality is even the whole time. It's just 152 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,919 really like how much they're going there with the plot points. I feel like 153 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:31,279 they the first half got to be a lot more crazy with it, which 154 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,360 makes sense, you know. The second half is trying to tie it all 155 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:37,080 together and connect all these storylines where the first half and really just be whatever 156 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,440 it wants at that point in time. So I don't know's that's a tricky 157 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:43,360 question for me, Yeah, because I'm in the same place where it's tough 158 00:09:43,399 --> 00:09:46,039 too for me. We talked about on the Ala, and I'm talking about 159 00:09:46,039 --> 00:09:48,159 this all the time, But I wonder too. The first one to five 160 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,600 had like good action set pieces, but I feel like that was a bit 161 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:54,559 more character driven, where I feel like this back half, especially the last 162 00:09:54,600 --> 00:10:00,960 three, there's many there's sometimes half the episodes are them fight Bashed or the 163 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,399 Sentinels, right, And that's where I am where I think overall it's still 164 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,919 great. I think it's still Honestly, i'd probably go low key season one 165 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,240 and then this right under as far as the like Disney plus rank. I 166 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,360 know it's on the MCU, but just like what they've put out. Yeah, 167 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,480 because that season two is great. I think Wandavision's great, but it 168 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:20,000 still was such a high quality. And it's tough too, because, like 169 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:24,919 you said, with the way it ends, I still have not issues but 170 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:30,120 questions or maybe some minor issues with the show that could get resolved in episode 171 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,480 one or two of next season. Right. So that's where like I'm really 172 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:35,240 tough of because I talk about this Chris Marvel alliance where we both agree on 173 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,240 some stuff where it's like, oh, like this needs some explanation. Even 174 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,960 with this episode being longer, I didn't get it. And it's not like 175 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,360 a massive con. It's not like, oh man, really brought down with 176 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,600 stuff like I felt the first five episodes didn't have that. I thought they 177 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:50,480 were maybe a little they were rushing, of course, but they still took 178 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,679 certain moments to explain things where there's this this felt like at times not fully 179 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:58,559 but there's some moments that felt like it was missing an episode like this was 180 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,799 episode eleven out of ten, and I miss or eleven and at eleven and 181 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,639 I missed episode ten because there's some stuff they just almost ignore from last week 182 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,320 that were really big developments and big moments and they're not even spoken of here. 183 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,879 And I washed it twice just to be sure, and it's not. 184 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,679 So that's why I can't when we rake it, I can't like give it 185 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,360 like a perfect score because obviously we have other things too. But overall, 186 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:22,679 I think it gave like a I guess at least now it sucks to wait, 187 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,360 but at least knowing there's a season two, I think that makes the 188 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:28,200 pill easily easier to swallow. If there wasn't, i'd be much more like, 189 00:11:28,279 --> 00:11:31,039 Man, I'm really worried and I can't enjoy this, but I can 190 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,039 enjoy this right now. It's like the Dune Part one, Part two, 191 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,679 things sort of deal where it's like, you know, because I knew that 192 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,960 I could give the ten where Kirkham was a little iffy, so he gave 193 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,519 it like the one out of ten. So like that's where but at least 194 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:46,799 with this, I go, Okay, that's not affecting it, so things 195 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:50,000 could be answered. I like where the show's left off. I think there's 196 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,799 multiple storylines. It's not going where I think we theorize, and a lot 197 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,320 of other people theorized, so that's fun. I think there's a lot of 198 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,720 interesting predicaments, and there's things that I was wrong about that end up being 199 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,279 liking them. Great action stuff in here. So overall, still like a 200 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,159 like I can't say it's like a home run, but it's you got the 201 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,120 third base, That's what I say. That's the best thing next to home 202 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,879 run, right, And that's pretty good, right if you were to hitting 203 00:12:13,919 --> 00:12:15,919 it all the way there, And I still say they won the game. 204 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,360 Like, overall, like compared to the original season or original show, I 205 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,799 still think it's a big step up. I still think, like I said, 206 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,320 as far as Disney Plus, it'd be like Loki and Or and then 207 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,039 this probably that'd be my top three like those are the mecha of that, 208 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,679 and I'm very excited to see what they do. And I'm very excited to 209 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,679 talk about this fintatale because I think they left a lot of openness. So 210 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,600 still really enjoyed it, thought it was great, but there's still like some 211 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:41,200 minor quibbles I have that maybe could be fixed next season. But I just 212 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,279 have to go with what they've presented me so far, and even there's some 213 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,240 things I still go I don't know if that makes sense and so, but 214 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,679 overall, I still liked it, but I agree that I think the first 215 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:54,679 five I like more than the back half. But again, it's like a 216 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,720 slight It's not like I'm not saying there was like a massive nose dive. 217 00:12:56,799 --> 00:13:01,159 It was just, you know, it's like if you got your food warm 218 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,720 out of the oven, you know it's in there. For the twenty minutes 219 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,360 that first seme it's nice and warm and crisp, but then afterwards, like 220 00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:09,919 been sin there for a bit. Lukewarm sounds bad. The show is not 221 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,519 lukewarm. It's still great. But that's what I'm trying to say. Kirk, 222 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:16,919 take it away. I'll take it away from you. Uh yeah, 223 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,600 No, I think that this episode was a hot, steamy pile of wonder. 224 00:13:22,799 --> 00:13:26,759 I love this episode. I thought it was fantastic. I think no 225 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:30,600 one bought that. I saw your eyes, you were you were I shaking. 226 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:37,799 I think you got them let us. I think like this three parter 227 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:46,039 of the finale, the Extinction Gos Tolerance's Extinction is just a fantastic three part 228 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:52,600 finale here. I just the show in general is just miles higher than what 229 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:56,679 that first show was, so like just the comparison, it just it's it's 230 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,960 so shiny to me, Like this show is just so top quality with what 231 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:05,519 they're able to do on just character moments. I've said it, I think 232 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,000 every single episode I've been a part of, but the animation quality is just 233 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,200 so top tier and all of the action that they are able to do with 234 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:16,120 like the animators and everything it looks so good and just everything with like the 235 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,399 camera angles, the shading and everything. It just I tip my hat to 236 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,440 them. So it's just eye candy to me. I love the look of 237 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:28,159 the show. It's it's so fantastic, And I feel like in this episode 238 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:35,159 in particular, there was like three moments when I just like gasped and I 239 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:39,159 think that's just so fantastic to have in a finale. I'm not gonna say 240 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:45,559 is a perfect season. I think this episode really kind of not really brought 241 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,039 to light some of the issues I have, but it's more so like I 242 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,600 was waiting for an answer or like a further on something and I just didn't 243 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,120 get that. So it's like, Okay, I'm gonna have to maybe minor 244 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,320 le dock it in that sense just because of something wasn't answered or maybe uh, 245 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:03,879 I was expecting more from a character's arc and we and we just didn't 246 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:07,120 get it in this season. And as you're kind of mentioning Travis, like 247 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,080 it could be resolved early next season, but you do have to kind of 248 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,200 judge it as this one one property here with the one season. So no, 249 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:18,919 I still think it's so top tier caliber, a big bastion hater in 250 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,080 his in his origin like that first appearance and now it's just like, man, 251 00:15:22,159 --> 00:15:26,519 this guy is crazy. I really like this villain. So yeah, 252 00:15:26,519 --> 00:15:31,759 I know, I think it's a fantastic season finale, and it's got me 253 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:35,440 want anymore. It's definitely like I just want to be watching the next episode, 254 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,320 the next season, next week, and unfortunately you gotta wait. But 255 00:15:39,799 --> 00:15:43,320 I'm glad I have that thought. You know. It's not like, Okay, 256 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,440 I can wait for the next season or or or not or whatnot. 257 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,559 But no, I think they did a good job at setting up what's to 258 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:54,039 come, and I just don't really know what's going on other than some some 259 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,679 familiar faces and some some familiar items that you know, certain characters are attached 260 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:03,320 to. So so I think that uh yeah, I was gonna say some 261 00:16:03,399 --> 00:16:07,120 thumbs, but I'll I'll wait till later for the thumbs. I'm getting too 262 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,080 excited at an episode right now. That's it. I wasn't a part of 263 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,639 last week's episode. You guys did a great review, but that was a 264 00:16:12,679 --> 00:16:15,440 fucking banger as well. So yeah, I've been riding this tolerance. What 265 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:18,639 are your thumbs for that episode? That's a two thumber for sure, double 266 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,000 yeah. Yeah, Well there you go. This is your last chance. 267 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,759 We're gonna take our ad break and then we're gonna get into the spoilers of 268 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:30,799 X ninety seven finale season one. We'll be right back. All right, 269 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,039 let's do this to us our geek. First, let's break this down, 270 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,559 and I want to go to the cameos first, because I feel like there's 271 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:41,799 not much to talk about them. There's one big one. But Taylor's hitting 272 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:44,559 me up. My phone was blowing up this morning at six am because I 273 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,080 was not putting two two together because yesterday I got that unfortunate news that the 274 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Dared doubl Show was going to be in twenty twenty five. So man, 275 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:56,720 my second draft pick getting me nothing, not a zero zippo. And then 276 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,840 Taylor warmed up my day. Usually it's annoying when you text me, but 277 00:17:00,039 --> 00:17:03,120 they were like, oh man, that, and then he reminded me about 278 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,599 Strange. I was like, oh my goodness, I have Strange. And 279 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:07,880 then I got to write about some else. But the other thing I forgot 280 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,880 too, which who else was it there? It was funny enough to Choka. 281 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,680 I had Cha Choka and that's great, a whole buzz on the internet 282 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,400 because there's a big debate, which I kind of didn't think they Someone asked 283 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,559 the creator Bodomayo, why was it Cha Chaka not Cha'challa. He said he 284 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:26,839 couldn't speak on that. And there has been a thing where Marvel actually is 285 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,680 not used to Challa. Since Chadwick has passed away. So that's a big 286 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:36,039 debate now, like which I get them in like even in the comics, 287 00:17:36,079 --> 00:17:38,359 other than what if I think in the comics he's not even around right now, 288 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,319 and I think it's someone else that's Black Panther and in the two video 289 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:45,400 games that's coming out, like the Black Panther on the Captain America whatever that 290 00:17:45,519 --> 00:17:52,000 what's that game call again now Hydrid nineteen forty three, not Captain Taylor Panther 291 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,039 Spy or whatever. But yeah, pant they gotta change that title again. 292 00:17:56,079 --> 00:17:59,440 That's a bad title, Like I can't remember all title but like those there's 293 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,599 another thing this like they just keep using Cha Chaka, So that's another time 294 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,599 to talk about. But it is interesting of man, like I get why 295 00:18:04,599 --> 00:18:07,359 they're going with the MCU route, but I don't think you should just like 296 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,359 make cha Challa is non existent now, so it's kind of odd. But 297 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,039 I do not think i'd be getting to Choka here. So I got to 298 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,200 Choka Doctor Change and Dared Devil all surprise points. Then I got to inform 299 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:22,160 Taylor because he did get the big bad boot Blue Booty Daddy Apocalypse we will 300 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,119 talk about in surprise appearance and end credits because he did not watch that end 301 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,880 credit, which will also get to sots Iron on their list. No, 302 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:40,119 Talo's Iron Hart but not our man Iron Apocalypse if it's like not actually apocalypse 303 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,359 at that time, if it's that character, but it doesn't him, but 304 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:49,640 doesn't matter the end credit, I know he gets Okay, the Jeffrey Taylor, 305 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:53,000 he's still he still gets to the one point. There s Taylor, 306 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:56,279 you're on the board. You were on the board, but now you're at 307 00:18:56,319 --> 00:19:00,240 sixty. And now I've taken a ten point lead on Dylan right now, 308 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:07,440 so it's one dead Pool and Wolverine as characters. Uh, let's see one 309 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,000 of them. Taylor has Deadpool and Kirkland has Wolverine. There's gonna be some 310 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:14,920 spicy points for you guys just on Bad Rock right now, right at the 311 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,720 bottom. No, no, no, you're you're one. Uh you're one 312 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:21,720 thirty, So yeah, no, you're fine. You still got Vanom coming 313 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:23,599 out. You didn't get any saber Tooth or Dazzer points. I'm kind of 314 00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:27,640 surprised we never got Dazzler in the show, you know. Yeah, I 315 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,559 thought that was a given. Even saber Tooth. Well oh wait, no, 316 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,119 it doesn't count Dazzler and show, didn't we what is he singing up 317 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,640 on stage? One point? If so, I need explosion, yeah, 318 00:19:40,079 --> 00:19:41,480 if so, I need to, don't worry our j We're getting there. 319 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,960 That's why I'm on the Canadas first. We're getting there. That's my name 320 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,480 here. But if that's the case, then Kirkland will be like, there's 321 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:53,599 there's a five point difference between me, Dylan and uh myself's my name name 322 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:56,559 Kirkland. Yeah, but Taylor does have some big pits come on. Yeah, 323 00:19:56,599 --> 00:20:00,000 but even then in Sabertooth close, but we got more Saber two doesn't 324 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:04,160 count. But I thought I saw him in the photos that uh he was 325 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:10,720 Havoc that looked like yeah, yeah. But the other cameras we got, 326 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,319 like I said, Darrenedel got strange ju insurgery, we got the Avengers. 327 00:20:12,319 --> 00:20:15,480 So I'm just saying, if you can't do a Spiderman show, give us 328 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,079 that Avengers ninety nine. But then, finally, because you know, I 329 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,759 was Santa Kurklam before we went on air, the internet has just turned on 330 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:25,839 Spider Man, Your Friendly neighborhood because no one wants to show anymore. I 331 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,920 feel bad for these creators because everyone just wants Spider Man ninety eight now. 332 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,079 But we're gonna get this. I pray to God for them that it's good. 333 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,440 I hope it's good because the people are gonna come up Pitchfords. But 334 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,960 if we don't go back one of our biggest retros ever too, Me, 335 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,119 Dylan and Kyle did the Spider Man retrospective and Dylan, if you remember that 336 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,519 last episode ended on a cliffhanger of MJ was lost out there. So if 337 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:51,000 we never get that revival, if we never episode, we got our answer 338 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:52,400 today bow to mail. He did tweet out day he said yes, he 339 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,680 found MJ. So they have confirmed that in the universe. Who knows. 340 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,880 I hope we get a show so we get the answer. But somehow Peter 341 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:03,079 Parker did find MJ. Wait is that in the episode or he just tweeted 342 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:07,720 it? Not it's in the episode? I totally miss Oh my god. 343 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,599 So when the meteor is coming down, they show a bunch of people watching 344 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,920 and they show there's Flash and his like shitty sports jacket, and it's Peter 345 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,960 and MJ is standing. It's MJ with that yellow tot with the purple and 346 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:25,000 Peter with that like that brown purple jacket. It's them watching on the news. 347 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,000 They're watching the news together outside. So in this universe, he got 348 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,160 MJ back. So now I can die like I've been living on that since 349 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,599 the nineties, that stupid cliffhanger. So again, I want the show, 350 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,440 but if it ever happens, the least we know he got MJ back, 351 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,240 and I'm very very excited about that. So it's just like just a happy 352 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,759 ending. But yeah, I loved all these cameras. It was great when 353 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:48,200 we talk about how many times the original show bad stuff be happening, and 354 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,960 they've done this already, but this was like the mecha of you're seeing Wakanda, 355 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,599 you're seeing the Avengers, you're seeing Spider Man, you're seeing Daredevil. 356 00:21:56,599 --> 00:21:59,279 I did not have dareduvel on, Michael. You see Cloak and Dagger so 357 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,880 very very cool, and I think that added to the stakes of this episode. 358 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:06,680 Man. When I saw Cloak and Dagger pop up, you know, 359 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,480 they're Marvel snap cards and like, I've used both of them multiple times, 360 00:22:10,519 --> 00:22:14,599 but like it didn't click that they're like a pairing until they literally just appeared 361 00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:15,839 together, and I'm like, oh, Cloak and Dagger, Yeah, oh, 362 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:22,599 yeah, that makes sense. Man, I can't find this, and 363 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,920 if it has a minute count for this, please send it. It's right 364 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,079 before the asteroid in a minute, but scrolling and I can't. I can't 365 00:22:30,079 --> 00:22:32,160 see it anywhere. Hey, what do you think about these canons? Obviously 366 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,400 got some points. That's good, and you needed these points to get you 367 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,160 back in because the jump from thirty to sixty five is pretty good. So 368 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,839 Apocalypse you end up being a good pick for you. It's a good pick. 369 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,400 I was extremely concerned. I thought, man, I'm not getting ship 370 00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:48,160 all from Apocalypse and the season it's brutal. But I thought seeing this episode 371 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,680 when Bastian and Rogue crash Land because Roe just kicks the shit out of him. 372 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,880 Yeah, and then you briefly see like these these stone statues, like, 373 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,799 oh, that's that's Apocalypse. That's like his that looks like is either 374 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,960 Easter Island heads or it's actually Apocalypse on the statue. So there you go. 375 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,519 I'm just super happy we got him. Uh yeah, and yeah this 376 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:14,000 I think the cameos are great. I just seeing you Daredevil strange and getting 377 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,960 Steve Rogers with his mask off too was cool and just a lot of emphasis 378 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:23,119 on his his upset, not even reluctance, but his accept acknowledgment of what 379 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,680 the president was doing. So let's fucking fire the missiles. Which was good 380 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,640 because I saw a lot of pushback cap cup episodes ago there, like Cap 381 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,279 in the comics never follows the government like he is, but this is such 382 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:37,480 a bad representation. Just relax, Like to me, I didn't take it 383 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,599 as he was because he said he had a mission. I didn't take it 384 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,279 was like, I'm gonna fucking take you in. And now here we see 385 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:45,240 a few episodes where he's like, hey, don't fucking destroy the mutes, 386 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:48,039 and then when they do, he puts his head down. So it's like, 387 00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:51,359 I don't think this was a government captain America. And yeah, it 388 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,720 was a great moment. It felt like, you know, compared to MCU 389 00:23:53,880 --> 00:24:00,400 like early Cap like in the First Avenger, Yeah, when he first Avenger 390 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,599 Winter Soldier. Yeah, like in between that where like he his own morals, 391 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,440 like he's questioning it, but like he's still playing game and being like 392 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,079 the good soldier that he has to be. But yeah, I love that 393 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,960 moment, Like it just it showed layers to that character that's a side character 394 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:17,559 in the show. I thought that, Yeah, fantastic, and hell, 395 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,240 maybe if they make that Avenger show, this could be the tipping off point, 396 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,200 right, this could be like, well, we can't trust working for 397 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,440 the government. We got to do our own thing. And Tony was there 398 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:26,880 like I just want that show to go too in that moment like he was, 399 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,359 he was like in the room. And then when it goes to them 400 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,720 fight with Bash, Okay, he's a little late, just just a few 401 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:37,880 minus idly be a nice battle between those two. That would be the robot 402 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,839 types. Yeah, so Dylan, now have you laid your eyes on the 403 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,559 Glory? I mean, I did see that scene. I'm like that that 404 00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:48,480 doesn't look like Peter Parker to me, in my opinion, I see MJ 405 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,759 now. I remember seeing I was like, she looks kind of familiar. 406 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,640 But I did not even I didn't see flash in the background, flashing on 407 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,599 the background. I would not have caught that on my own without people like 408 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,759 sha, yeah, that's uh, that's cool. I definitely want I mean, 409 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:07,440 I'm with you online, I want like the revival of that show too. 410 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,720 But we got some resolution to that retro. You know, he found 411 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,240 her so good good on him, So I know, I need some time 412 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:17,599 to let that sink in. It's uh, I'm just learning about it right 413 00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:19,079 now. So MJ was the one that stood out to me. It's just 414 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,480 that iconic red hair because like it's it's not like they have the camera on 415 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:26,160 them for very long. It's just kind of showing like citizens witnessing the asteroid 416 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,680 coming down. And then it's just like a red hair man that stands out. 417 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,000 And then I rewound and then I'm like, oh, that's got to 418 00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:36,240 be Peter, And that just stuck out because peters in the back in that 419 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:38,359 show. He only has two outfits. He either wears that or he wears 420 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,759 this shirt, which I have saved in my marks. If that was a 421 00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:45,400 shirt, I probably would have recognized it. To be honest. Every day 422 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,480 I look at it and I think about buying it. It's like gonna be 423 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,000 like one hundred dollars with shipping. I haven't re used though every day I 424 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,240 still have, like, look at my tabs, it's my number one tab 425 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,920 there and I haven't the lead yet because I'm on is that like an actual 426 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:04,119 like Marvel product? There? There was one on Disney website but was gone 427 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,119 such just a knockoff one, plus I didn't like it. The Disney one 428 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:12,240 had the same shirt but had like a big Spider Man logo. I don't 429 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:15,000 want that, Like, I just want the shirt. I want the polo. 430 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,759 So I'll probably still I'm probably gonna break sooner buy it. But what 431 00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:22,440 do you think of the canvas in generals? Other than we'll talk of the 432 00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:25,920 end credit obviously later on. Yeah, I know it was really fun. 433 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,240 I mean seeing Daredevil since he was a showed up once or twice in the 434 00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:33,559 Spider Man series as well, so once again kind of having the characters that 435 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,440 we've seen before Silver Samurai is surprising that we I mean, I guess it's 436 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:41,480 kind of such a because we saw what was it, Spidey Samurai and and 437 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,559 omeg red Omega red in like the was last episode, so it makes sense 438 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:48,079 to kind of resolve that. But like, he didn't really do much. 439 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,119 He was just like his face again right or we love standing there and watching. 440 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,599 That's what he did. He just stand there watching. I think he's 441 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,119 definitely coming next season. I think, yeah, And then I liked one 442 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,559 thing that got me potentially excited is is Sidewalk was running with that crew and 443 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:03,240 I can't remember their name, but like the twins and then a couple of 444 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,359 those other people. I'd love to see if she had like her own little 445 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,759 crew now with those people and some other characters. I think what was his 446 00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:14,599 name, Puck? Is that is that the creepy Yeah people. Yeah, 447 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,960 so that would be That's That's kind of an interesting pairing, So I'm curious 448 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,599 to dig more into that one. But no, they were. They were 449 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,480 all very fun and it was cool that they were actually a little bit substantial 450 00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:27,039 substantial this time too. I feel like, especially with Cap and Iron Man, 451 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:30,559 as you guys just kind of already broke that down. But yeah, 452 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,079 even like I guess so Micro, we don't really see him fight a whole 453 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,440 We see him like start to fight and then it kind of like ends before 454 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,039 that. But he also was like with some other crew as well, So 455 00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,759 I feel like there's they're setting up maybe some faction stuff that they can play 456 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,519 with in the future, which is kind of, you know, potentially interesting. 457 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,599 In the world that is now Postingnosha, the Morlocks aren't around, so 458 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,680 I feel like we need some other kind of cruise kicking around in this world. 459 00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:55,160 I mean, I could see the first few episodes of the next season, 460 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,279 not even being in this timeline really in a meaningful way. But well, 461 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:00,920 and that's the other thing too. They said at the end of the 462 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,759 episode, the X Men have been missing for six months, so it's like, 463 00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:07,359 what has happened in the world, Like I would love, like I'd 464 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,960 love an episode where we follow our main characters, but then another episode where 465 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,680 it is just what's been happening to the world while the X Men are gone, 466 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,440 because there's to be somebody, right and Ford was trying to look for 467 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,640 them. Some were missing, some and nothing. They had patro and Scarlet 468 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,640 like off world, so it's like, what does that mean? Like that's 469 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,559 I mean, like I'd be curious what has happened in these six months? 470 00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:30,319 Same things like is a Mega Red like a good guy now? Like is 471 00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:33,599 he teamed up with Munes after this because he saw their like are all the 472 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,079 Mutes united now? You know? And they said this thing on the radio 473 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,720 that everyone's prepping for the second coming Magneto And it's like, what the fuck 474 00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:44,759 does that mean? Like is like is Magneto Jesus now or they think he's 475 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:52,440 gonna come back? And was the X Men disappearing? Kingpin's like a charitable 476 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,000 guy. Now there's no poverty in the world. Yeah, Doctor June's like 477 00:28:56,039 --> 00:29:00,400 a nice president, you know. But like yeah, I'm just you're is 478 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,039 like what what like what does that mean they're prepping for the second coming of 479 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:07,880 Magneto, because like Magneto is just like he's stuck in Egypt somewhere. It'd 480 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,119 be different if you didn't see him, and I'd be like, oh man, 481 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,039 what's the upstre But no, he's like he's just trying to survive, 482 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,640 you know. I mean I just took that like because he was such a 483 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,200 threat to humanity, right, like he had his fight against war against humanity. 484 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,039 They label him the villain, and then he just disappears and then now 485 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:27,640 they're worried that he could be coming back. Like That's how I took that 486 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,319 statement more, not not so much, you know, the day I took 487 00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:36,359 it the other way. They saw that he saved them at the end, 488 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,000 even if he did cause the outage in the first place and maybe build asteroid 489 00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:45,200 him in the first place. But I took it as more that when they 490 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,440 were about to get sucked up by this asteroid coming down, he he was 491 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,880 the one that saved it, and they were able to tell that because of 492 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,119 like I don't know, just the big electronic storm. I guess that looks 493 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,640 like something Magneto would do the side, but it could be either way. 494 00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:02,079 I I thought in that same sense, there was some line about some aer 495 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,839 showing support for the second coming of Mayni or something like that, so you 496 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,519 could be right that there, and again that could just be the brotherhood thing, 497 00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:11,359 right, And I just don't really let's talk that was a lot of 498 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:18,519 lets let's talk about Magneto, because I'm we get a lot. I liked 499 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,240 all the stuff they did with Charles. I think they could have maybe shortened 500 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:22,480 a bit, but I liked all the stuff. I liked the imagery. 501 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,119 I'm very curious what they're gonna do with him because obviously the first few episodes 502 00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,839 they just gotta team up to get back to their timeline, right, So 503 00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:33,200 it doesn't really matter if he's good, bad and different. They just gotta 504 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,200 work together. I just don't know what they do with him now, because 505 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:38,640 we talked about this before, we're okay, if he goes evil, he's 506 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,559 gonna go really evil, and now he did, but then he saved the 507 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:47,079 world, so it's just like, can he return back to our timeline or 508 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:48,400 the ninety seven timeline, just be like, oh, I screwed up again. 509 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,359 But I'm with the X Men, like, I really don't know what 510 00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:56,440 I would have actually been fine with him doing like a sacrifice move here, 511 00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:59,039 you know, because I just I don't want to get it into the place 512 00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:02,200 where the live action movie got where he just kept going back and forth all 513 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,960 the time, and I think we already all of us were like, oh, 514 00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,640 he turned bad too quickly again, But that's fine if he wants to 515 00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:10,799 send off. So I'm very torn what they're gonna do with him once he 516 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,000 gets to the nice seven time. Maybe he doesn't, Maybe he makes a 517 00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:18,079 sacrifice move there right, maybe he saves himself or saves them like so we'll 518 00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:19,519 see, but as right now, I'm very confused what they're gonna do with 519 00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:22,359 them. So yeah, No, I went on a bit of a camel 520 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,799 ride with Magneto and this in this one with lots of ups and down, 521 00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,559 lots of humps. But because I at first I thought he I thought Charles 522 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,400 was just fucking murking him right there. When he does his like close up 523 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,960 right on him, you got like the cone, like the psionic cone just 524 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,240 going around his head, they like get twisted up in the air. I 525 00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,240 thought that was gonna be the end of it. Was Magnus, Eric, 526 00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,599 all of those names, and then you've seen his file has two other names 527 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,759 that they bleeped out. No, it was Ian and they blanked out the 528 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:51,880 last name, and then Michael on they blanked out the last time. Oh 529 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,000 that's kind of fun. Yeah, I like that, but no, Like 530 00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:00,279 I I felt like we did the redemption kind of Magnus at the start of 531 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:04,599 this season and then and then you know, the big event happened, and 532 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,759 then he's just going back to his evil ways and this is like the most 533 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:09,519 extreme it's been. That's why I thought it was gonna end in his death, 534 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,720 especially with what he did to Wolverine. Let right, like even like 535 00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,720 I felt like that confrontation between him and Uh, I almost said Patrick Stewart, 536 00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:22,279 him and Charles kind of lackluster. It's just like, and what you 537 00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:24,839 did to Wolverine, It's like, well, he tried to murder me and 538 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,279 then that was just it. So I true, did he did take the 539 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:34,240 first shot? No? Yeah, No, you're not wrong. I I 540 00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:37,640 just feel I'm kind of worried that we're gonna get into this zone where Okay, 541 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,799 he's back on our team, and then something's gonna happen, and then 542 00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:44,960 he's just gonna go this again. I am hoping, and I don't think 543 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,200 this is gonna happen, but I'm kind of hoping that he is permanently like 544 00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:52,119 fucked up in the psyche and he's almost like it's almost like a Gallum Sniegel 545 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,640 type situation where like he's just constantly and like it's not as extreme as that 546 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,440 where he's talking with himself, but I wouldn't want that to just kind of 547 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,519 have him seem like he's an X man, like a good guy, and 548 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:06,559 then there's just this like cloud that he's kind of having over and like an 549 00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:09,119 eternal dialogue. I guess I am kind of just laying out a Sniegel Golum 550 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,079 situation, but I don't know that's that's kind of fun. Like I feel 551 00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:15,920 like that's very different, and I do want him to be permanently changed from 552 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,680 this. I'm worried that we're just gonna be going back to the flip flopping. 553 00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:24,640 But yeah, I loved his line, just the small line of it's 554 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,240 much easier to bend metal than it is minds Charles, I thought that was 555 00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:30,880 really great. But yeah, I'm with you, guys. I don't really 556 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,799 know where we're going with this. I mean, if I had to make 557 00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:37,920 a prediction once we get back to the main timeline, I don't. I 558 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,000 feel like they've set him up so much in this show, specifically in this 559 00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:45,640 revival, that they want him to be a permanent member and not just go 560 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,440 off to the Savage Land or go off and you know, find his piece 561 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,680 up on a mountain somewhere and then come back with the Brotherhood of Mutants in 562 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,319 the future or something. So I think it would be fun if he's just 563 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,279 a constant member of the X Mansion, part of the member of the team 564 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,200 leader with Charles, and then you can just play on that a lot more 565 00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:07,519 of them without whatever situation arises week to week, or in this show it's 566 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:12,079 more of a one cohesive story. Whatever situation arises, you can just hear 567 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:16,039 their differing opinions and maybe they're splintering factions, and I think that could be 568 00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:21,119 you know, that could lead into a villain turn or something again in the 569 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:22,440 future. But I do hope we get a bit more of that. We 570 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,800 all talked about we wanted a bit more time of him being the literally that 571 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,880 X Men and we can we can still have that. I think doing it 572 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,320 alongside Charles would be interesting in the push and pull there, so I could 573 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,880 see him just being like, well, according to the will, like you 574 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,719 left me the mansion, so actually they are my X Men still even if 575 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,639 you're back. Unless maybe he had some fine print. We all know, 576 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,880 Charles, you probably slamming the guy who'd have front. But I think that 577 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:51,320 could be a really fun dynamic to play on some more. But I also 578 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,159 wouldn't be shocked if he just disappears for a while and then it comes back 579 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:57,480 and has some villain situation going on. But I don't know. I feel 580 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,000 like this show seems a bit more mature than that to just go down that 581 00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:06,519 route again. The other thing that surprised me about him in this episode was 582 00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:10,880 how hung up he was on rogue, and that was something that he obviously 583 00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:15,840 bottles it up inside, but since Charles was inside of him and visiting those 584 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,079 thoughts and rogues out on like a boat on the waves there. But I 585 00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:22,280 was really surprised to hear about it. I feel like he hadn't mentioned that 586 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:29,119 past the like, uh, I guess proposal, and then she denied him 587 00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:31,519 for Gambit and then everything went down to Genoa of Time, right, Yeah, 588 00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:36,480 because he's been like crossed up for weeks and everything like that. Yeah, 589 00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:38,239 so I guess that's the reason why. But I feel like they maybe 590 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:44,760 they should have done something previously of just him thinking like in his mind some 591 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,760 own thoughts, talking to himself or talking to val or something I could that 592 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,480 could that could work where he expressed those motions, because it kind of caught 593 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,400 me off guard here. But I don't know if I'm alone on that, 594 00:35:53,599 --> 00:36:00,760 Oh, I'm with you. I I feel like it seems strange for him 595 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,159 to be like on the brink of just like no memories, doesn't remember his 596 00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:07,480 family, and like Rogue is the one that he's kind of like like that's 597 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,599 his main like catalyst to bring him back to the normal world. It did 598 00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:13,599 seem like a bit of a stretch. I don't know. I'm curious what's 599 00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:16,519 gonna happen with that relationship going forward, because it really seems like something that 600 00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:20,639 they made the decision going into this X Men ninety seven show, like this 601 00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:23,400 is gonna be not like a main pillar of the show, but like a 602 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:29,239 big decision, big character decision, I guess of that pairing. And you 603 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,760 know when when Remy eventually shows up again, that there'll be some tension there. 604 00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:36,480 Well, I think that's why they're gonna get together next year, because 605 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,679 they'll be together and then lo and behold. That's when Gamba comes back, 606 00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:42,960 and that when it's like, oh shit, like Rogue's putting the situation again, 607 00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:45,719 right, especially because like Magneto and her got out, like there was 608 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,760 three separate people that got our groups. It's funny. I all always like 609 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,800 all these teams are gonna end up split up, and they did, but 610 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,119 not on the way I thought. You have the team in Egypt, which 611 00:36:55,159 --> 00:37:01,360 is Magneto, Charles beast Row, and then and you have the future which 612 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,039 is Scott and Jane. We have no fucking clue where more from Wolverine are. 613 00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:08,039 They were none of the They weren't in the current day, and they 614 00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:12,159 weren't with the Egypt team, and they weren't with the future teams. I 615 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,840 really don't know when that they were Yeah, okay, they were with the 616 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,320 whole crew when they because it was like we'll get there. But when he's 617 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,000 still healing and stuff like that. Right, So he was. I believe 618 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:30,000 he was because the last scene when Cyclops is like, don't you do this 619 00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:32,920 to her? No, technically the last scene was really fucked up, which 620 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,960 I liked that of Scott, which I still have issues, but I like 621 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:37,880 him saying like if you die, you're gonna break your heart. It's like, 622 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,639 okay again, just let's just do the throttle. Let's just do it. 623 00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:44,760 But the last scene of Wolverine was it looks like he's kind of fading 624 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,000 away and Morph turns into Jean Gray and it's like, I love you, 625 00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:51,599 hold on. He's like Gene. So that was the last scene. Morph 626 00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:53,679 just really just fucking with his emotions. You did not actually say Gene for 627 00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:00,639 any he did? Well here he was like he does, No, I 628 00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:02,079 think he says Gene. I think he's asked for Gene. But watch it 629 00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:06,039 back. I'm pretty sure he asked for Gene and that's what she said. 630 00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,039 So but I think he was on that ship with him, because where else 631 00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:10,079 would he have been, right or astray? I'm like yeah, because he 632 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:13,880 never went back to Earth. I was just trying to remember because Cable was 633 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,400 the one on Earth who was getting sucked up, and then Forge is fixing 634 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,239 him, not Wolverine. Yeah, those two. Yeah, so I don't 635 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,519 really know. I for fun, I would like him to be with Scott 636 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,559 and Gene, but I don't think that's gonna happen. So I really don't 637 00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:28,159 know. Maybe there's gonna be somewhere else too, maybe they'll be a completely 638 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,400 different third equation. And even then, I guess we didn't see Storm or 639 00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:36,320 jubil Oh, yeah, we didn't see storm Jubilee or you didn't see storm 640 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,840 jubilees on Earth Sunspot? Yeah, they flew away, remember Jubilee fell out 641 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,239 and Sunspot grabbed her. But how come that thumb down, Travis? He 642 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,360 did not say Gene and under the breath I just pulled up with subtitles and 643 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,679 everything. Your subtitles are wrong. You're trying to force it out there. 644 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,840 Okay, but how come if why did Forge have a missing possibly dead sticker 645 00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,440 on Storm Storm? Storm? You're right? Is with is? We don't 646 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,440 know. I guess we did see an either timeline, but Jubilee Sunspot is 647 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,360 what we're saying there on her Okay, So okay, so there, I 648 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,519 think I couldn't read what it said. I think it's head alive. Okay 649 00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:15,639 said something, it didn't say. It didn't say unknown whatever. The other 650 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,320 one said. It's like the two X men that come back are fucking Jubilee 651 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,480 and sun Spot. You couldn't got anybody else but Jubilee popped off that fight 652 00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:25,639 though she showed that she's got some power. I love that bash and made 653 00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:30,119 some like fourth of July joke for that before and then just fucked up his 654 00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:34,039 face as I said, she hadn't heard that one before. Actually I love 655 00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:38,639 that line because I feel like that's that's different, different subtitles different. And 656 00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:44,760 then she said Gene, But so that makes that makes me think that Wolverine, 657 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,880 Morph and Storm are in a third place. Then I would think, 658 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:55,559 yeah, you're frozen bad there. Oh I am you got a big forge, 659 00:39:57,599 --> 00:39:59,320 Taylor. What did you think of it? Because you didn't know? 660 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,480 What do you think about me? You know? And then what do you 661 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,039 think about all these the time stuff we were transitioning too, But start with 662 00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:07,199 Magnus. Yeah, For firstly, with Magneto, I think him having a 663 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,599 blank slate of a mind and just kind of like trying to recall certain things, 664 00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:14,079 and Xavier kind of talking through the ropes. I like that as mind 665 00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:15,360 goes to rogue, cause I feel like that's just one of the earlier things 666 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,239 he could think of that or would come to. That's really was a positive 667 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,719 thing in his life. And so I like that as mind goes there and 668 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,400 can recall rogue as an important factor in his personal life. So I was 669 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:32,440 expecting you to come back to that frame, what you're frozen again, if 670 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,639 we're going from Dexter to that, I just wasn't. Oh, in my 671 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,719 screen, it's just black, so okay. And then his whole kind of 672 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,000 recuperation of just counting of events and just feeling alone and isolated, and the 673 00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:49,440 waves the water is so cold. I was just very traumatizing, and I 674 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,239 was I was digging all of that. It was really really intense, and 675 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,840 then getting into uh, the other characters and where they're at now. I 676 00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:01,840 personally, they're just when Beast is talking about how we can all act like 677 00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:07,079 in synchronicity here we can basically save the day. I like that, and 678 00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:12,840 so they all do just that. But the idea that these humans fired off 679 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:19,800 these missiles at asteroid M to destroy it, but knowing that this probably isn't 680 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,400 a good idea because it's gonna crash on Earth and like wipe out half of 681 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,800 the United States or something like that, Like like what the fuck, Like, 682 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,920 are you that really good? Big risk? There's a very big risk. 683 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,880 And what was their point? Like, Oh, someone was like, 684 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:37,639 oh, there's fire in the sky, let's fucking nuke this asteroid and annihilate 685 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,360 our country. Just a stupid, stupid decision. But I think they're just 686 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,559 scared by Needle would do worse though, you know, like he like it's 687 00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:47,800 the country versus like the whole planet, maybe, I guess. And that's 688 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,840 just like that's just humans with the lack of information, just going in and 689 00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:57,159 thinking that they can make the call, the be the shot caller here. 690 00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,880 They should have listened to Yeah, but he had a lack of information. 691 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:07,440 He was making this this declaration of attack here based on insufficient evidence and information 692 00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,000 on what was really going on. So he should have just listened to Steve 693 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:13,880 Rogers. He should have just been listening to all these other soups that were 694 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,000 just telling him, like, you know, you need to calm the fuck 695 00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,320 down, man and just listen. Just let the X men do their shit. 696 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,360 We don't know what's going on. So anyways, I think Bill, 697 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,159 sorry, can I quickly add in, like with the asteroid M thing, 698 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,400 like the way he was shot, it seemed like those three there was like 699 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,639 three missiles that went all the way through the asteroid to like, I guess 700 00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:37,280 the gravity machine that keeps it floating in the sky. And to me, 701 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,199 like looked like that was like an intentional plan to hit that part of it 702 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,119 down. But I don't Maybe that was an accident. Maybe they're trying to 703 00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:45,639 crumble it down, and it was the Magneto proto call, wasn't it like 704 00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:50,599 the Dossierra That's what it said, which I read. I read magnet two 705 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:57,280 protocol at first, But I think that this was specifically tailored to destroy Planet 706 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,199 M. They had the right, but I'm saying, like, don't know 707 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,199 if they meant to hit the gravity part of that, like that purple machine 708 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,320 that gravity work. Oh, I see, I don't even know if that's 709 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,440 how it works, But it seemed like that was intentional. Yeah, you 710 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,079 make a good point, because I mean, why would you intentionally want I 711 00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:17,280 mean that was my issue in the first place. Why would you intentionally want 712 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,639 to hit that and destroy half of your country or your whole country, So 713 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,719 maybe you make you make a good point there, because like their their plan 714 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,719 and correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe I missed a big portion of this. 715 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,000 But it's not necessarily to hit the asteroid to prevent it from hitting them, 716 00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:38,480 right, it's just to take out Magneto because he's the one that's like 717 00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:42,719 emp the entire Earth, right, Like, isn't that their motivation right there 718 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,239 where they just have planet M in the or asteroid M, not Planet M 719 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,840 up in the sky, up in the exit sphere, whatever the hell's it 720 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,320 is, and like they're just trying to take it out and then the stuff's 721 00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,519 going on, they hit the gravity and then they're just basically as in the 722 00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:05,079 next extinction event. I think Beast mentions the going the way of the dinosaurs, 723 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,440 as he eloquently said. But that's that's how it went, right, 724 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,800 I believe. So yeah, I mean I don't I guess I don't know 725 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,000 if they're trying to go for the asteroid or specifically Magneto as the guy. 726 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,199 Yeah, he's got to be up there somewhere to shut up fire Like, 727 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,519 I guess it's kind of one and the same, but maybe that's where they 728 00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:30,159 fucked up or something big time. But yeah, it's just getting this whole 729 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,679 kind of dynamic with our characters and having half the team in the past half 730 00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:38,800 the team in the future. I just I'm so happy with this, and 731 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:45,599 it's such an unexpected turn that I was. I was curious how they were 732 00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:49,159 going to progress with this show, because when you deal with a character like 733 00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:53,199 Bashi and you deal with this fall out of Nathan and everything that has underwhelmed 734 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,400 or not overwhelmed our our heroes in this in this show, I don't know 735 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,599 what you could really do to continue on. And so just to come up 736 00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:05,719 with this dynamic ending where you split our team up and you have the past, 737 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,280 the future and time travel coming in here, are we gonna I doubt 738 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:13,199 we're gonna get multiversal. I welcome it, but I don't think that's really 739 00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:15,920 in the realm for the animated show. I think that they're just gonna stick 740 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,920 to the time travel that's always served them pretty well in the past with the 741 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,559 original five seasons. So I'm very much looking forward to seeing our characters work 742 00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:30,639 with maybe a good uh pre apocalypse guy. I think that's just that's gonna 743 00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:31,679 be really cool, and I'm assuming he's good at this point. I mean, 744 00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:37,199 he looked like he was just being harassed by these fucking uh followers of 745 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:45,480 Yeah, that was because he's supposed to be the first mutant, right that's 746 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,599 Apocalypses. Yeah, yeah, you love those guys look pretty mutant, you 747 00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:57,119 know if you're asking me the the Egyptian soldiers, so, I mean, 748 00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:00,960 you're It's interesting too because when the world of X Men, we deal with 749 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:06,519 this this scenario of when you change things in the timeline, then you like 750 00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:08,800 really fuck up and change timeline. We spent many times where, oh, 751 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:15,480 this future is terrible, So I'm not bashing a bishop goes back in time 752 00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:19,960 and he changes one thing, keeps one person alive, one person dies, 753 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,920 who knows, and then it totally creates a new future. And so with 754 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:30,000 this, I feel like the X Men is consistently one moving forward, a 755 00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:32,519 storyline, one one, if that makes sense. Kind of it's kind of 756 00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:42,519 like the difference where there's Avengers endgame where you have different constantly different timelines and 757 00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:45,400 you can travel in time to different points of time, and when you change 758 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:51,079 something, it doesn't change your timeline, like them going back and Thanos coming 759 00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:54,159 back from that timeline into our present. Timeline. It doesn't. It removes 760 00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:59,679 Thanos from that timeline that will continue on, but it doesn't remove Thanos in 761 00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:01,639 the future sure from this timeline because he just jumps over. Whereas when you 762 00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:06,559 look at back to the future, for example, when you go back to 763 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,559 and you stop your parents from getting together at the under the Sea Dance, 764 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,199 then it just erases you. It changes the future. So that's the case 765 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,440 here, and I like that it's very just black and white linear for X 766 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,199 Men ninety seven and the previous show, So that's in this case. What 767 00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:23,960 I'm trying to get at is with the team being in the past, them 768 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:30,599 now interacting with this pre apocalypse young Apocalypse character that's going to retroactively change the 769 00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:35,320 future based on how we've seen Time Trouble work in the past on the original 770 00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:37,519 X Men show and the same I imagine too, this will be interesting to 771 00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:40,239 see how this dynamic works because we also have X Men in the future, 772 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,880 So how how is this going to there and so in the present. Yeah, 773 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,639 so how in each different instance they're doing different decisions, how is that 774 00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:53,239 going to effect? Like is one character gonna like Xavier gonna wake up and 775 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,079 Beasts is gonna like throw him an apocalypse, and Apocalypse will like break his 776 00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:01,639 back as I can affect the present. I'm just spitballing. I'm glad it's 777 00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:07,400 five years later we're talking about endgame. Try time tra co back to that. 778 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,159 Yeah, yeah, I mean that sounds fun, but man, it 779 00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:15,760 could also get messy and convoluted, So I'd be curious to see how they 780 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,239 do that, Like just in terms of, like in a thirty minute episode, 781 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,119 how do you convey that to us as the viewer, Like the one 782 00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:27,199 timeline doing something and then it rippling out, But then maybe we don't see 783 00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:30,559 that until like the second section of like the next episode or what. I 784 00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:34,320 don't know. Maybe it's like just a three part or this whole like time 785 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:39,480 travel sequence or the different Egypt timelines going on there with Bishop trying to fix 786 00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:44,920 all that. But yeah, that uh I didn't really get like overthink that 787 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,320 part, I guess, but yeah, you're right that there could be some 788 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:51,400 crazy stuff going on there. It should be fun. I think it's gonna 789 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,480 be okay because I think the past they're gonna realize that. Unfortunately, you 790 00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:58,199 gotta let apocalypse become apocalypse. So whatever they want to try to talk to 791 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,239 ensnever about like it's not like then it's like, well then could that not 792 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,639 really Like that might not lead to the creation of the X Men or x 793 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,840 Y and Z or things could get worse. So I think, like the 794 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:14,480 n sober guy is gonna have a point where they could maybe change some things, 795 00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:16,159 but no, he's still got to become Apocalypse. And yes, Kirklan, 796 00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:19,719 he is the first Mune, so you gotta let that play out. 797 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,639 So I think that's why that's gonna be fine. I think the future it's 798 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,840 kind of okay because the future can always be changed, as Bishop showed, 799 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,079 so that could be you know, they could do one sort of mission with 800 00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:32,280 Nathan here, But that doesn't mean it's gonna go for because as we saw 801 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,079 in the Diner, Nathan heard all these stories about his parents. Never interacted 802 00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:42,719 with his parents right now, they never said in the future when they go, 803 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,320 oh, Nathan, they didn't say our son, So they might lie 804 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,159 to Nathan and not tell him that, you know, they're his parents for 805 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,679 X Y and Z, right, they might not want to share that information. 806 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,960 It might just be some Munes he deals with. But yeah, it's 807 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,800 interesting because both those are based off the Apocalypse. One is based off Rise 808 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,239 the Apocalypse, and then the future one is based off of the Adventures. 809 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,880 It's a four part mini series, The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix, which 810 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,719 she did tap into some Phoenix powers here. So I think she's gonna probably 811 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,119 pop off a bit more in season two. So and there's some other big 812 00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:15,239 character in there that it's gonna be, uh, you'll see. I think 813 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,079 they're gonna do that arc. And there's some other big characters coming in that 814 00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:21,920 future arc which will be fun to see. Even some hints in this episode, 815 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:27,400 so like new characters or reoccurring ones or not reoccurring ones that we've seen 816 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,239 before. Well, one is Nathan. One's like an alternate timeline Nathan. 817 00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:32,599 Yeah, one's Nathan. But there's other characters in this timeline that our mother 818 00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:38,039 is. Yeah, maybe someone in the Askani clan might be of note there. 819 00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:43,639 But yeah, so I think the future is fine there. They get 820 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,559 do it in a way where Cable doesn't even know that's just his parents because 821 00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:50,599 they might not even change anything, and Apocalypse they might not change anything. 822 00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:53,159 Who knows what's happening with Storm and Wolverine a morph and the present day? 823 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:59,119 Who knows? We know Apocalypse is popping off there because it's uh, looks 824 00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:04,679 like our boys coming back next year what he always is. Oh yeah, 825 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,199 I'm excited. I was gonna say, my, my, I would guess 826 00:51:08,199 --> 00:51:15,880 that Beyonder is the one responsible for asteroid m the multi whatever happened asteroid disappearing 827 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,400 there and then all these people getting spat out different places, which would well, 828 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,199 for one reason, that's just makes sense that something Beyonder would do. 829 00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:28,039 Could see Beyonder wanting to save these people because they are interesting to him for 830 00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:30,119 some reason. But then also that ties back into the original series, even 831 00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:34,559 if that wasn't something that was I don't know. It was explored like a 832 00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:38,119 bit, but not tremendously right, So that's my prediction. Do you guys 833 00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:44,000 have any other ideas of what actually happened to the asteroid here? No, 834 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:49,639 Beyonder's good because Bishop what is Bishop's line like something or someone time? Yeah, 835 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,119 yeah, yeah, Beyonder would be a good one. They've touched upon. 836 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:57,800 So I feel like that's the go to theory unless there's something to do 837 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,760 with Apocalypse because he's back. But I'm gonna say they're not the same situation, 838 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,440 and pocalyps is just taking advantage of this situation, and heck, maybe 839 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,639 that's what we talk about, what's happening in the six months while are gone. 840 00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:09,880 Maybe pocalyps just gonna mess up the present time, like he's gonna just 841 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,159 go to town. So I think Beyonder is a good theory because I can't 842 00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:19,760 think of anybody else right now that would feel unless it's the bashing route where 843 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,760 they're gonna introduce someone completely new in the X Men or Marvel Cannon, which 844 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,719 they could do, which because I was surprised at Bashing, but I as 845 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,519 far as known properties or people that have been around, I think Beyonder is 846 00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:37,440 a good one. M h, No guesses I have no put my chips 847 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,280 on Beyonder. Yeah, I'll go with you beyond here. Another thing that 848 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,719 I found interesting with the time stuff is we've been questioning this whole time, 849 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,719 like is this forge the forge that we've seen before? And yeah, it 850 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,400 seems like this is like the forge that we're getting here is going to become 851 00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:59,079 that forge they put I'm gonna be your friend one day they literally, yeah, 852 00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:01,199 but yeah, he is to this point like this forge has no memory, 853 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,719 I guess, has no relation to the forge that we had in the 854 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,760 original series. In terms of knowing those events, I explained that very poorly, 855 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:13,559 But I think that's an interesting dynamic, and I'm actually very excited to 856 00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:17,079 see Bishop and Forge in like the present day and get that dynamic. Now. 857 00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:20,840 I was excited to see Bishop this season, and then he fucking disappeared 858 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,119 and had three and a half minutes of screen time, So that could happen 859 00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:27,719 again. But if we're dealing with time travel, actual stuff characters in different 860 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,119 eras, I'm sure we're gonna actually get to use that character a bit more. 861 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,320 And Yeah, I'm excited to see that that friendship blossom, especially because 862 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,079 Forge is in like a really rough spot right now. The love of his 863 00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:40,079 life has disappeared for six months and he's still just every day just working out 864 00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:43,440 the computers, trying to figure out what's going on, and so I feel 865 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,920 like he's still in that very fragile state, which could be a great place 866 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,519 for them to bond. And yeah, who knows what the hell's going on 867 00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:52,159 with Bishop, Like I don't even I don't know what his story is outside 868 00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:55,800 of what I've seen in this series, because he's always just kind of more 869 00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,440 of a plot device than he is like a personality driven character, so hopefully 870 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,840 we get a bit more of that with him and Forge next season. Well 871 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,480 let's take our next ad break and we'll keep breaking down the finale and we're 872 00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:14,440 back. And the other thing too, is like where's Cable and all this? 873 00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:15,519 It's been six months so it could be gone. But last time we 874 00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:19,280 saw him, he's just sitting in a diner in New York somewhere, right, 875 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,400 So it's like, does he stick around? Does he go back to 876 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,559 his time? I don't know. There's like a lot of good open ended 877 00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:27,360 things. Feels like the end of Fellowship of the Ring. You know where 878 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,599 all these characters are places, but it's like, hey, where are those 879 00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:32,480 places? Is gonna end out how they get it all interlinked again? So 880 00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,679 yeah, I'll be excited to see again. I would love because I think 881 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,960 I can't remember Bishop said him like, oh looking for new recruits again? 882 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,039 I would love that same thing. Did what's Nightcrawlers status? Is he another 883 00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:47,880 missing one? He was in the ancient time? Right? He was right 884 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,440 because he talked, he had his be good Okay, so that's what answers 885 00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:55,599 him. So again, I'd love it if we got like Forge and Bishops 886 00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,440 X men, even if it's like a really rag tag they have no great 887 00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:05,400 chemistry type of team. But it's just like the Expendable Suicide Squad. Well, 888 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,960 I mean we saw shadow Cat on there. I'd love to get kiddy 889 00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:13,840 Pride in their icy Yeah, Emma Frost, Yeah, yeah, magic that's 890 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,440 how Yeah, that'd be great. So because yeah, and then on that 891 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:21,199 board it said for Cable he was a wall. Same thing with Jubilee, 892 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,519 and uh said, yeah the double check. So I can even believe though, 893 00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:28,880 because they're all able. I could believe that those three are like on 894 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,519 some sort of mission together too, which I actually think a Jubilee and Cable 895 00:55:31,639 --> 00:55:36,159 pairing could be tons of fun. I would love to see the dynamics of 896 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,519 especially too if Robbie and Jubilee are like in Big Love and Kalos like, 897 00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:42,960 oh my god, just like a grumpy babysitter. Absolutely, yeah, I 898 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,320 think it'd be fantastic, you know, And I bounced over it. But 899 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,599 I really like the moment in the diner too, when that's Scott saying goodbye 900 00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:53,320 for the first time he should have when he's a baby, and just giving 901 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,239 him just kind of who your parents are and why they're proud of them, 902 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,000 and Jeans officially accept like pretty much adopting him with her son. So I 903 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,800 thought that was really Yeah, yeah, that was a nice moment. So 904 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,800 I didn't like fully change and he's like, you got my eyes and they're 905 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:15,360 just like completely red. No, that was a touching scene for sure. 906 00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:21,119 Yeah. Sorry, another question, So you're talking about that board you guys 907 00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:24,360 mentioned Scarlett Witch Quicksilver off World. Yeah, what's what's going on there? 908 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,039 What do we any any quick theories on what's going on because that's that's a 909 00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:31,480 very specific thing to call out. Yeah, and I thought we would have 910 00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:35,480 saw them this season. We didn't, so I don't know what's going on 911 00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:39,079 with that. That's they're looking for Magneto, maybe looking for their daddy. 912 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,800 There's a chance. My hope, head Cannon, is that the Avengers are 913 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,400 together, and they're with the Avengers right now off world doing some Avengers stuff 914 00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:52,679 later. Yeah, I'm trying to head Cannon that this event caused the Avengers 915 00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:55,000 to get together and my show that I'm pitching to Disney Plus, So they're 916 00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:00,440 with Theirs right now, they do right so that if they are not, 917 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,960 that has to be answered next next season. I really think it will be 918 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,400 they'll get an episode. I really, even if it's just them looking for 919 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,320 their dad. I think scar Wich is a powerful enough character to save her 920 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,119 dad, Like she's a person that could find a poral and create something to 921 00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:17,079 get them out of this time predicament, right, Like I really, yeah, 922 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,320 I'm just honestly very surprised. I think bodamael Is. The only character 923 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,519 that was off limits was Deadpool, which makes sense because the movie's coming out 924 00:57:24,519 --> 00:57:28,639 and they want to do that. But I thought for sure these characters were 925 00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:30,199 gonna be in much much more. So I feel like they had with that 926 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,119 because you just could put Missing there too. You're gonna put off world. 927 00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:37,159 Off World feels very specific, so I feel like we might get some you 928 00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:42,039 know, twin Central episode in the future. Actually you're mentioning there what they 929 00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:44,679 have? Interesting thing. I think that makes even more sense with the off 930 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,000 World comment, because that would be like, oh, yeah, there's an 931 00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:50,280 Avengers mission off world. That makes sense as like a confirmation of why that 932 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,119 is. But yeah, it is maybe strange that he doesn't have other Avengers 933 00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:58,119 on that list, Like I guess it's just mutants, just the mutants. 934 00:57:58,199 --> 00:58:00,599 Yeah, doesn't Sidy on that list. But yeah, I guess that makes 935 00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:05,920 sense then, or maybe it's just like no like people, he's like map 936 00:58:06,119 --> 00:58:08,079 knows of you know, like it's a who knows what's going for his life. 937 00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:12,039 I'm sure he's helped. I mean, Morph did transform into Quicksilver at 938 00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:16,400 some point. Yeah, Quicksilver is like a known and yeah, yeah Taylor, 939 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,800 you guys say something before. Yeah, well I was gonna mention something 940 00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:25,239 if everyone, hopefully no one wants to continue on unless I detour? What 941 00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:29,000 am I trying to say? Where? How hard are you? How hard? 942 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,159 Yeah? Okay, Well it's kind of the same realm. That's what 943 00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:40,760 I wanted to talk about, because more he leaves, he's like, ah, 944 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,920 that's what makes this weird moan as he runs away. That's the last 945 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,119 we see of him. He has to scurry away, and they never stopped, 946 00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:52,599 They never saw him. They just let him scurry ye here. Yeah, 947 00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:55,679 I I still stay with where I was. It's kind of like the 948 00:58:55,679 --> 00:59:00,639 make Needle thing where I think Jeane should just rip him the shred and I 949 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,000 just like, do we need him? Because we know what's gonna happen. 950 00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:06,679 He's gonna get power, he's gonna come back. He's just like, join 951 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,039 the X Men people. I would love that, But like with Apocalypse coming 952 00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:13,679 back, I could see like, and I love Cinnister, don't get me 953 00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:16,599 wrong, but I just feel like with they didn't kill off they didn't kill 954 00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:20,639 off Macneedle, they didn't kill off bash and I don't think Bashian's dead. 955 00:59:20,639 --> 00:59:23,400 They didn't kill off Sinister. So it's just kind of like like, like, 956 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,760 are we gonna bring Sensor back again for something? Like I don't know, 957 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,440 because I obviously now officially the bandwag gets over. Malon Prior is definitely 958 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,599 fucking dead. They would have brought her back now, and she's called you're 959 00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:37,679 right on that one. So Malon Price, even Bashan says like I'm gonna 960 00:59:37,679 --> 00:59:39,760 give her a quick death. It was the first time someone actually said she 961 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,760 was dead, like I'm gonna execute this planet just as fast as I did 962 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,400 your mother, which was like, great fucking line. That's cold. That 963 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,599 was the first time anyone actually had admitted she was dead. So I just 964 00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:52,760 feel like, but Prior dead, Cable's gone, Like I thought this was 965 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,159 a tough Like I don't know. I I it was a funny moment, 966 00:59:55,199 --> 00:59:58,559 but they should have just killed Sinister. I think it would have been a 967 00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:01,199 good send off for this character finally, but now he's still He's out there 968 01:00:01,239 --> 01:00:04,639 and he'll be back. He'll probably be back next year at the Pacas with 969 01:00:04,679 --> 01:00:07,480 some sort of fucking plan. So he's gonna outlive apocalypse of this absolutely. 970 01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:12,920 Absolutely, they're gonna pump it too in the future Cyclops and Phoenix with the 971 01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:15,960 little Nathan back. Oh and here's my uncle. Aha, He's gonna be 972 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,920 there. He's kind of one of those, as I was mentioned in my 973 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,159 opening thoughts at the start of the episode, in terms of the first half 974 01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:25,280 of the season and just the different dynamic. They're like, he peaked in 975 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,800 whatever that episode was with the Goblin Queen three. Yeah, and that's too 976 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,039 bad. Like, I mean, that's an amazing episode. It's hard to 977 01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:35,039 top that in any means. But I feel like they didn't even really try 978 01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,400 that much with him. In the end. It makes sense, you know, 979 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,440 you like you're setting up Bashan as the new exciting villain. He's the 980 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,039 big beat of the season. I get it. But I am a little 981 01:00:44,039 --> 01:00:49,119 disappointed with Sinister now that now that the season's done, and like this Arc 982 01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:52,239 two is kind of complete and I just felt we were like the dynamic you 983 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:57,000 had with Bastian was a bit strange, where the Sinastors like, oh, 984 01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:00,440 you you promised me Cable. I was I was gonna get him as a 985 01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:02,800 prize and he's like, oh, I gotta make a I gotta make an 986 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,519 example out of him. And I don't know, I feel like that dynamic 987 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,599 two like that, those two butting heads with all like two or three lines 988 01:01:10,639 --> 01:01:14,519 of dialogue and this whole season of them butting heads like they Yeah, it 989 01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:16,599 was a weird duo that I think didn't end up landing as much as it 990 01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:20,639 could have, especially because I get why they did it, because they want 991 01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:22,880 the high Bastion. But all the talk was, oh, Sinistor's the main 992 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,159 villain that's go around, and that's where it's like always gonna like Cinisor's always 993 01:01:27,199 --> 01:01:29,559 been a main bag guy here in there, but it feels like there is 994 01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:31,039 always a bigger threat, right, And that's where it's like, Oh, 995 01:01:31,079 --> 01:01:35,280 finally they're gonna get this. Like it reminds me a lot of probably you 996 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,079 guys won't understand this, but when they made the Arkham Origin Games, it 997 01:01:38,159 --> 01:01:42,639 was the prequel to the Arkham trilogy and They're like, everyone's very excited black 998 01:01:42,679 --> 01:01:44,800 Masks was gonna be the main villain. I was excited, it's not the 999 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,960 Joker, something different. Then the big reveal was black Masks was like it 1000 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,599 was just Joker under the black mask, and then the Joker takes over. 1001 01:01:50,599 --> 01:01:52,320 You're like, oh, like I like Joker, but like we have had 1002 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,440 nothing. And that's what this feels like, where it's like they were making 1003 01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:59,320 up they they used him as a red herring to make us think Sinister was 1004 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,440 gonna be that even if he wasn't, Like to your point, then just 1005 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,639 give him some more excitement. But it felt like the second Bashing got introduced, 1006 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,920 he took a massive step back, And I guess maybe that's why they 1007 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,599 don't want to kill him, because they use him. But I just, 1008 01:02:10,119 --> 01:02:15,360 yeah, I am a I can't say this. It's tough. It's like 1009 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,199 the Wolverine thing with people that complain all the way and didn't get enough Wolverine. 1010 01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:21,159 There's so many episodes of Sinister, but I guess I just wish he 1011 01:02:21,239 --> 01:02:23,039 was in there a little bit more. So I'm not hugely disappointed, but 1012 01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:29,880 like there's quality of the writing that's maybe not there for I did at least 1013 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:34,079 love the moment of Gene ripping the DNA out of all I thought that was 1014 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,480 just iconic, Like I'm gonna remember that one. That was sweet. It's 1015 01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:42,880 good he was he was definitely getting I mean, he's done some very horrible 1016 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,679 things, but he definitely was getting the short end of the stick in this 1017 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,960 deal because Bashi was gonna blow Cable's brains out, and he's like, we 1018 01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:52,760 have any Apocalypse too. He's not very good at making deals. He's not 1019 01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:57,960 definitely not I don't respect him. He can't fight. He always he's making 1020 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,800 deals with people. He cannot get the upbring. He's not beat Bash. 1021 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,679 She's not gonna beat Apocalypse like, which is why he's such a fun villain. 1022 01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:07,159 That he's just like kind of a goofball. I know he doesn't like 1023 01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:09,519 gain this respect from the other super villains. They just see him as like, 1024 01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:14,280 as lesser than for whatever reason. Yeah, next time we see him, 1025 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,400 do we see him all pretty or do you think we might get one 1026 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,840 more time of him looking like the galm. I think he's Gollum sinister. 1027 01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:23,880 I think he'll just yeah, I think he'll cover himself up in something. 1028 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:28,239 He'll like a baron Zimo or something. I'll have like a hood over his 1029 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,840 head or we won't really see him and he won't want to show it off. 1030 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:35,360 He's very much about the vanity apparently, which makes sense. He is 1031 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,840 a very like his his his gown, the way it flows, like even 1032 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,320 in the flashback episode in the last season of him with his glasses and stuff 1033 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,519 like he Yeah, he pays a lot of attention to his style. Him 1034 01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:50,039 running away talking like don't look at me. That's way more the current Sinistor, 1035 01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:52,559 Like there's a Sinistor like when the met gala, there's a sinister like 1036 01:03:53,079 --> 01:03:57,440 god, what is it the the hell Fire Club gala, and he's always 1037 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,079 showing up very scrapping like they make him there. He's much more I won't 1038 01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:04,679 say, like a Taiko Wa TD type, but there's is of that in 1039 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,639 the newer Sinister and that fits with him wanting to look very particular. So 1040 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,159 I did like that. So I like a Visa cane down the sewer at 1041 01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:15,159 the new Warlocks, you know, that's where I want to see him, 1042 01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:16,599 like the way he looks like that, that's what I picture for give me 1043 01:04:16,639 --> 01:04:20,679 the new leader now that Calisto's dead, and yeah, yeah, for a 1044 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:25,480 leech. He'sack at least at least for the greater good. Right, Magnetot 1045 01:04:25,559 --> 01:04:30,039 is still alive. So what I want to say about that whole situation, 1046 01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:34,079 Yeah, Cable, they took the jewel out of said yet we touched upon 1047 01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:40,239 this at the beginning. My disappointment with this is last week you had Robbie 1048 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,800 and Rogue turn on the X Men and fight against the X Men. You 1049 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,800 had Cyclops literally shoot Xavier, not one mention of any of that. This 1050 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:53,360 episode, they are just back to team together and at one point Cyclops like 1051 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,719 everything's going to shoot. He say, yeah, everything's Magneto's fall. It's 1052 01:04:56,719 --> 01:05:00,199 like, dude, you fucking like you you shot and made this keep going. 1053 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,079 Like I just felt like what I said to my nonsploors. There was 1054 01:05:04,239 --> 01:05:08,960 a scene or an episode where they all talked out or something. It just 1055 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:14,360 felt weird that they never even mentioned, like last episode Jubilee and Robbie were 1056 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,679 fighting, and they don't talk about that. Robbie said something like oh, 1057 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,960 like he insinuates he's not good at fighting, so he's probably gonna die, 1058 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,679 and she just shoots him a smile and Rogue just calls him Romeo. But 1059 01:05:23,719 --> 01:05:26,800 like he doesn't even apologize for like I'm sorry what I did back, like 1060 01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:31,519 Rogue doesn't. Cyclops never even says sorry to Charles. Like I just felt 1061 01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:35,519 like this whole huge moment, unfortunately, it felt like they did it just 1062 01:05:35,559 --> 01:05:39,679 so they could do the Wolverine Adaman can Thin because it's such a big comic 1063 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,000 thing. So I felt like for such a big moment, the follow up 1064 01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:46,079 was not there for any of it. It just felt like Cyclops like got 1065 01:05:46,159 --> 01:05:49,159 away with one, like the fact and this is again they could talk about 1066 01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:53,800 next season, so maybe. But and I get that the world's crashing down, 1067 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,840 so I completely understand that. It just felt very odd that for these 1068 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,400 big moments, big turn it was resolved very quickly, and it's something that 1069 01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:05,480 hurts my score, and if it doesn't get picked up in the second season, 1070 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,079 the score is always gonna remain my way, because I just thought it 1071 01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:12,480 was very great stuff. But they just they just I felt like they just 1072 01:06:12,519 --> 01:06:15,199 won big moments last week and then they went, ah, whatever, let's 1073 01:06:15,239 --> 01:06:16,440 just uh, you know, we're back together, right, yeah, cool, 1074 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,960 let's not talk about any of that stuff, because like I Cyclops choosing 1075 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,119 Magnet or helping me, you know from what should be something that should be 1076 01:06:24,159 --> 01:06:28,000 a really I don't know, I think breaking point for Charles and his relationship, 1077 01:06:28,039 --> 01:06:30,480 but really wasn't you know? It seems fine? So I was disappointed 1078 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,239 by the fall up on all that stuff with the X Men. Yeah, 1079 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,920 no, I totally agree with you if it felt like that should have been 1080 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:42,440 a multi part Yes, amongst the multi part if we have like Tolerance's extinction, 1081 01:06:43,159 --> 01:06:45,599 you know, three parts or a three part episode and then you have 1082 01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:48,440 like a two parter in between it or something, because it should feel a 1083 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,320 lot more significant than it is, because it was a really big moment in 1084 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:56,599 that episode, but the follow up should also be equally as important, and 1085 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,199 we just don't have time to really like sit with it. Like I I, 1086 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,360 I wouldn't really take anything out of this episode, I think to squeeze 1087 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,840 that in. Like I think what you said there about this feeling like an 1088 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,679 episode eleven where we kind of missed it on episode ten is entirely accurate, 1089 01:07:12,679 --> 01:07:15,840 because you just you just don't have room to squeeze that in. And it's 1090 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,360 unfortunate because it is a really big moment that should have you know, it's 1091 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:24,800 it's proper screen time to try I take out some of that Charles and Eric 1092 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:29,480 stuff I think they got. I think fucking loved all that stuff I did, 1093 01:07:29,519 --> 01:07:30,760 But interested need to be that long, Like at least give us two 1094 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,679 minutes of Charles and Cyclous talking, you know. Just but yeah, I 1095 01:07:35,639 --> 01:07:39,360 mean I didn't really talk about that moment when you were talking about those characters, 1096 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:44,719 but like just that particular it's like they're in like a limbo type situation 1097 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,639 where like they're they're trapped in the scene. I've also probably seen that done 1098 01:07:47,679 --> 01:07:51,440 in like other movies or TV shows too, right, Yeah, certain characters 1099 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,800 are just trapped somewhere and then you have just like the symbolism of like the 1100 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,280 flood coming in and it's just like taking them together and it's just the stormy 1101 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,079 weather outside, but they're still in that bar that they were like contained in 1102 01:08:02,159 --> 01:08:08,199 that That's just like that one scene is just so it's just so much more 1103 01:08:08,239 --> 01:08:11,760 than what Saturday Morning cartoons are like. In my mind, That's what makes 1104 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,320 me think the show is just a whole another caliber as to what that original 1105 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,239 show is. That original show is great, but no, I I loved 1106 01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:20,520 all those moments. I love that it wasn't just one quick moment like we 1107 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,920 kind of we were there, bounced to some other characters and then bounce back 1108 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,159 to that to that just that moment and when the water was taking them and 1109 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,239 Charles is just wanting to like he's trying to comfort Magneto as much as you 1110 01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:38,079 can. I absolutely love that that whole sequence. But yeah, we can 1111 01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:42,600 jump back to what we were talking about before. What were we talking about 1112 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:50,520 before Cyclops? Yea, No, I'm I'm with you on wanting to see 1113 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,039 a bit more resolution with some of that stuff. I mean, the the 1114 01:08:54,119 --> 01:08:57,680 Jubilee Robbie stuff. I kinda, like I said last week, I'm like, 1115 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,359 I don't think we're gonna successfully Lands when, like I think Jubilee is 1116 01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:04,039 a character, I mean, not even by the end of the original series, 1117 01:09:04,079 --> 01:09:06,840 like she she was up there really one of my favorites, like a 1118 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,760 really fun character, and I think the season she was really fun as well. 1119 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,880 But I think the Robbie stuff didn't end up working quite as much. 1120 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,199 So I don't know. Maybe they're set up for some good stuff considering that 1121 01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:19,720 they're in the present day and there's not many other characters who're gonna get a 1122 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:24,239 lot more of that, But yeah, there wasn't a ton to be had 1123 01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:27,920 there. I don't know. I don't think I've much else to say on 1124 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,520 that. I think I don't want to jump like some bashion stuff if you 1125 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:35,680 guys want to bashi bashi for move on. I mean, I just feel 1126 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,159 like there was a lot of stuff that wasn't resolved properly. So I'm kind 1127 01:09:39,159 --> 01:09:42,079 of in the same boat as you guys. The I laughed at the moment 1128 01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:45,159 Sunspot has this clash with bash It like I thought, visually it looked great, 1129 01:09:45,239 --> 01:09:48,319 especially if we go to Earth and you just see like the big sun 1130 01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:53,399 Spotsm's going off and the humans are just like, oh no, I just 1131 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:58,039 love it. Bashian's like he's like basically just shit talking Sunspot talk about like 1132 01:09:58,039 --> 01:10:01,560 his mother and like just be like turned away, and I'm like, Sunspots 1133 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,600 just feels like such a like an ant compared to like Bashian, Like Bashian's 1134 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:11,039 like clashing with like the Summers Charles Magneto, and then you just have sun 1135 01:10:11,119 --> 01:10:15,359 Spot and he just he's so like it's like he's done his research on every 1136 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,000 enemy or like like in every single X Men exactly. He just knows all 1137 01:10:19,039 --> 01:10:24,600 the details of his mother and the politics and how that affects Sunspot. But 1138 01:10:25,159 --> 01:10:27,680 so and I guess it does make sense because he is like a robot, 1139 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,479 so I guess that that knowledge is just there right away. But I just 1140 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,319 found it funny that they're dialogued. It seemed like it should have been like 1141 01:10:33,359 --> 01:10:38,319 a like a Charles Magneto type moment. But I'm like, Bashan and Sunspot 1142 01:10:38,359 --> 01:10:42,880 like really, like, these are not rivals in my are now? That's 1143 01:10:43,119 --> 01:10:46,840 that are now season three of ninety seven. They're gonna be going at it 1144 01:10:46,079 --> 01:10:50,640 and to me my, which is funny because you could have played up something 1145 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:55,319 with like they're both rocky relationships with their mother, right, But again because 1146 01:10:55,359 --> 01:10:59,159 they just didn't spend enough time with Robbie as a character, like there's potential 1147 01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:01,800 there and hopefully that happens in season two. But again, like other than 1148 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,640 one person, no one died and that person's coming back, so it's like 1149 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:09,720 the roster's not gotten any smaller. So I do think they got to they 1150 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,479 gotta watch that. I think they got to kill someone, Like not as 1151 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,399 much as I love Wolverine, but like if you're telling me, hey, 1152 01:11:14,399 --> 01:11:17,000 we're gonna kill Wolverine off, it's like, yeah, that's fine because there's 1153 01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:20,359 a lot of stuff that needs to be talked about. But at least Bashion 1154 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,840 looked cool. You got your wish man. I told you you just had 1155 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,800 to wait, Like I said, just wait for the finale fight and Eve 1156 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,039 he popped off. He got a lot of upgrades. He took Cable's arm, 1157 01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:32,039 just attached it to him. He was cool. He was looking great 1158 01:11:32,079 --> 01:11:35,960 and very scary, very psychotic. So all that stuff for me was great 1159 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:41,199 at bashing that like first Inception episode when you know, I wasn't liking the 1160 01:11:41,239 --> 01:11:43,359 look of him, and then that's when I was looking up the wings and 1161 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,600 of course Trial was like, just wait, you're gonna get it. It's 1162 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,199 gonna happen. What we actually got was so much cooler than that other concept 1163 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,920 that I saw, So iuck, I ate all that up. I thought 1164 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,319 him, yeah, ripping Cable's arm off and just turn it into himself. 1165 01:11:56,359 --> 01:12:00,319 And like even before that, when he has like the headband on that Nicks 1166 01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:02,960 throws on him and he's just there's an aura about him. You just feel 1167 01:12:03,119 --> 01:12:08,840 so endgame boss. And I'm not saying endgame Avengers, just like this is 1168 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,359 the final boss and it felt like that there's multi stages to the to the 1169 01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:15,239 fight, you know, like a good video game. Yeah, yeah, 1170 01:12:15,319 --> 01:12:18,600 no, I I just loved how we're going back from the surface of Earth 1171 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,159 up to Astroid m Like back and forth, back and forth, back and 1172 01:12:21,199 --> 01:12:25,439 forth. That was. That was such a fun fight. And I mean, 1173 01:12:26,399 --> 01:12:29,359 Rogue is just such a badass. She's so strong, so powerful, 1174 01:12:29,399 --> 01:12:32,840 just like tossing him around, tossing him back down to Earth and throwing him 1175 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,800 around, getting that fight, and that that place that they were at when 1176 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:40,520 it was like her sun spot and bashed and like, I swear that was 1177 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,960 a location from the original series, and like, I can't remember what it 1178 01:12:45,119 --> 01:12:47,680 was, but it seemed like a I seem to remember that location, so 1179 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,399 I'd have to they thought something big there. I thought there was I thought 1180 01:12:50,399 --> 01:12:55,520 that was apocalypses, like could on the Moon. Yeah, right, because 1181 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,000 it looked like a statue of him unless I'm really out to lunch. That's 1182 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,600 just as soon as I saw it, I was like, oh, yeah, 1183 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,720 this is a part. There was a statue. Yeah. I can't 1184 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,800 I can't remember what the sequence was to the episode or even the season. 1185 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,560 It'll be hard for me to dig that one out. But it seemed like 1186 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,039 a throwback to some extent, but either way, it was a cool battlefield. 1187 01:13:11,039 --> 01:13:14,319 But yeah, Rogue is just so so cool. Yeah, once again, 1188 01:13:14,359 --> 01:13:17,359 did not see, did not expect sun Spot to come save the day 1189 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,760 and then just once again like the team battle up when they're finally take him 1190 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:27,840 out at the very end with Psyclops just going like Omega level mode. All 1191 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,039 the team comb was going on there, as we mentioned with Jubilee, and 1192 01:13:30,039 --> 01:13:33,439 then of course like the classic X Men of not going for the killing blow 1193 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:39,720 but just trying to extend that olive branch and let him kind of, I 1194 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,039 just put all of it in front of him so that he can like redeem 1195 01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:45,439 himself and he can be a good guy at the end of it. And 1196 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:46,720 he ends up blowing up, but in a way that's like, Okay, 1197 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,680 he could easily come back if they want to, because and he was reaching 1198 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,640 out when he blew up though, because Scott offered him. That's what I 1199 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,560 mean. Yeah, he was going for it. And yeah, I mean 1200 01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:02,119 obviously with the asteroid teleporting to who knows where in time and play who knows 1201 01:14:02,119 --> 01:14:05,239 who knows where he is, But I'm sure he's still out there and they 1202 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:10,880 can play with him in the future if they want to. Yeah, he's 1203 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:17,399 with Cable Jubilee and uh yeah it's the worst quad ever. Yeah. I 1204 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,359 did like to that. The star of the Rogue fight she said his name 1205 01:14:20,399 --> 01:14:25,880 was Gamit, remember, and then clocked him. So she did the wholt 1206 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,119 clap on him too, like right in his face, hold butt at him. 1207 01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:31,600 Yeah. I oh, man, I love having Rogue really pop off 1208 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,399 here because I don't know, she had her moments, and I feel like 1209 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:39,840 she's had more like character moments probably that she's had all the other show, 1210 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:44,920 but all the other show, all you know, the previous X Men cartoon. 1211 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,359 But it just to really have her pop off like that, it's like, 1212 01:14:47,359 --> 01:14:51,239 oh yeah, no, she's She's still like the strongest X Men, 1213 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:57,640 uh physicality wise, at least morph mister Fantastic. I thought that was fun. 1214 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,600 I mean, he could have just I guess morphed into someone who flies, 1215 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,119 but that was a lot more stylish to go in mister Fantastic. So 1216 01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:06,600 I like that because that was another one of those series that had one of 1217 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,560 those animated shows in the probably in the nineties, I would assume too. 1218 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,039 So I did. There's an episode Taylor, you gotta watch that Ghostwriter beats 1219 01:15:14,079 --> 01:15:19,920 Galactus, So I do Jesus that every time Morph does that, it's always 1220 01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:24,399 throwing me for a loop because I was like, when the fuck did mister 1221 01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:30,079 Fantastic? So TAM's watched that. So six in the morning, Justice Shore 1222 01:15:30,079 --> 01:15:34,159 as a Rock is covered in chills already, but then the chills go away 1223 01:15:34,279 --> 01:15:39,520 because it's not mister Fantastic. Oh, it's just just Morph, which because 1224 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,640 I don't want to forget. I don't want to forget. Morph is like 1225 01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:45,640 if they don't put Logan and Jean together next season, which they're not gonna 1226 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,840 now because they're all split up. Like, that's definitely I know he's there 1227 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:54,279 helping Logan by turning into Gene and saying, oh, I love you, 1228 01:15:54,319 --> 01:15:57,520 but that's also more of saying that too, you know. I feel like, 1229 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,880 So I don't think the Bolt Show will be bold enough to go I 1230 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,720 did not set that up this season. I feel like that was definitely very 1231 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:08,840 intentional with the romance angle with them, and I feel like there was yeah 1232 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,000 a lot implied as well. So I'm I'm down for it. I'd love 1233 01:16:12,039 --> 01:16:14,399 to see that. I love it too. I hope they go that route. 1234 01:16:14,399 --> 01:16:16,159 I don't think they'll be bold enough to do it. They've done it 1235 01:16:16,279 --> 01:16:20,359 done. Like imagine watching episode one in the original run and then making that 1236 01:16:20,399 --> 01:16:25,640 prediction one day they're going to be shipped in that. Yeah, that'd be 1237 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:30,079 crazy after especially more fun they get, like the big eyes and everything. 1238 01:16:30,119 --> 01:16:34,079 But yeah, Logan did say more solo we can make him laugh, right, 1239 01:16:34,119 --> 01:16:38,800 So it's been there. It's been there since the beginning, so very 1240 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:45,760 true. More all specifically, I know we got the ending, but I 1241 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:51,159 think my only other note was a post credit there. I think there was 1242 01:16:51,239 --> 01:16:56,880 two different versions of the X Men intro that didn't in it. It was 1243 01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,880 pretty subtle. There was, of course, I didn't write down the specific 1244 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,359 moments that they happened in. I think it was at the end and then 1245 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,319 okay, there's like an operatic version of the theme, and it's when they're 1246 01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:11,000 all trying to make as m stay ups the storms out there. They're all 1247 01:17:11,039 --> 01:17:15,039 like putting play your rock meme. That that one dude, chill scosh, 1248 01:17:15,079 --> 01:17:21,640 that was like, that was so good. And I can't remember if it 1249 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,279 was that one or the or the second one that happened later on the episode, 1250 01:17:25,279 --> 01:17:29,079 but it had like a bit of the like that's you know, I 1251 01:17:29,119 --> 01:17:34,279 just think Halo theme, Like I'm pretty sure it happens earlier on too. 1252 01:17:34,279 --> 01:17:38,720 It's not the X Men version, but there's just some of that like Halo 1253 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,600 isms to it, and god, that's I fucking love that theme. That's 1254 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:47,560 gotta be one of my favorite themes of all time. When you have so 1255 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:54,279 Scott does his stare down with Bashan, Bashan does the black bull mouth thing 1256 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:59,319 and then whatever the fun we call it the phaser through the mouth beam and 1257 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,319 then it's a black bull does I could be wrong, black bull just opens 1258 01:18:02,359 --> 01:18:05,640 his mouth, right, but did he shoot beams? No? I think 1259 01:18:08,039 --> 01:18:13,319 yeah, right, okay, never mind, it's a purple effect and uh 1260 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,560 and then and the Scott counters and and he does the epic line of you'll 1261 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,640 never hurt my family again, and that was really intense. But then it's 1262 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:24,000 followed by a scream and not just like a big exclaim or like a like 1263 01:18:24,039 --> 01:18:28,279 a meaty yell, like he actually screams. And my subtitl said scream and 1264 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,880 the audio just made me laugh so hard because it's not the audio effect that 1265 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,760 I was expecting. It's literally like, you'll never hurt my family again. 1266 01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,079 It sounds like he's dying, like like it's it's I don't know, it's 1267 01:18:43,119 --> 01:18:47,800 just not where it's amazing. That one got me really good. And then 1268 01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:51,680 I wanted to shout out the genetic infear again my nickname here, but just 1269 01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:56,319 when Magnus is talking about you know, Charles always wanted to help out the 1270 01:18:56,319 --> 01:19:00,039 inferiors. But yeah, fuck, I love those moments and all all of 1271 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,000 those one on one moments actually, like not when they're in the the Psyche 1272 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,960 of Magneto, but well I guess they are in the Psyche of Magnieto. 1273 01:19:06,039 --> 01:19:10,520 That that's the whole point of the bar sequence. But when you just get 1274 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:15,960 more of the history of what Magneto really went through to become where he is. 1275 01:19:15,039 --> 01:19:19,439 And I think it's again when Charles is kind of just trying to reel 1276 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:24,239 him back and like have him remember you know, like you don't remember your 1277 01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:26,359 family because you were so young when you lost them, and you just kind 1278 01:19:26,359 --> 01:19:30,399 of hear like soldiers boots and stuff like going on his mind. It's just 1279 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:35,039 such a fantastic set, like I think reasoning for that character to have the 1280 01:19:35,039 --> 01:19:39,960 motivations that he has to like just see the worst in people, because he's 1281 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,960 really gone through that and just such a well made character. Man, Just 1282 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,720 Magneto is so good. I'm glad he's not dead, just that we get 1283 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,319 more of him, even though that would have been like a big consequence moment. 1284 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:54,119 Cut to next year in the penultimate fisode and he's like fucked the humans 1285 01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:56,720 again, and you're like, oh, I'm glad he's here. It's like, 1286 01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:02,039 you'll never hurt my friends again. I'm gonna put the metal back of 1287 01:20:02,079 --> 01:20:09,159 the logan this time. What would be worse getting that thrown on you or 1288 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,239 removed? I think they're removed because it's just rip, like the ripping off, 1289 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,279 Like it would have to be the exact same, like, right, 1290 01:20:15,319 --> 01:20:16,880 you have to rip through the skin to get back on. Yeah, there's 1291 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,479 just something though, but like I think being put on the bones the skin, 1292 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,079 you're right, but the bones part. I think being ripped off the 1293 01:20:24,079 --> 01:20:28,880 bones versus just putting back in place, because that's harder to get right too. 1294 01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,079 Like he's good with metal, but to like make all those pieces fit 1295 01:20:32,119 --> 01:20:38,239 perfectly. Good luck where it's ripping it off. I mean, it's likely 1296 01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:45,760 one way out we needed to see this episode, so it'll be interesting if 1297 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,199 he gets those bone claws. If they should go that route, I imagine. 1298 01:20:48,199 --> 01:20:50,359 I don't think they're gonna say, oh, he just says adamantium. 1299 01:20:50,399 --> 01:20:54,600 But that'll be fun. I guarantee you'll get them the trailer for that shit 1300 01:20:54,720 --> 01:21:00,680 season when they could do it, so claws is rid. No, No, 1301 01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:03,560 let's see the only thing is there anything we have about other than the 1302 01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:09,159 end credit here? No, well, we got to see which I was 1303 01:21:09,199 --> 01:21:12,640 surprised we didn't get anything credits the whole season. I was surprised because we 1304 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,600 got to see, like, oh god, we got Apocalypse Evan Sinner. 1305 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:23,279 It's I can't fucking remember how I'm screwing up his name now, Evan Sinner. 1306 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,560 No, I think I'm not. I don't know. It's been a 1307 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,840 while. What are you talking about? Apocalypse is like name, his name 1308 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:34,039 isn't Apocalypse was seven? Thank you? So anyway, so get that, 1309 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,279 and then that's why I did not think the end credit would be. I 1310 01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,920 was completely on the bandwagon, where Okay, it's giving Onslaught. You know, 1311 01:21:42,039 --> 01:21:45,840 they're setting up all this stuff with Bastian Magneto's still live, X Savior 1312 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,560 still Live, all this stuff, But no Onslaught, not even hint at 1313 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,119 in this episode or the season, so we'll see what happens. But uh, 1314 01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:56,319 we go back to the Genocius Genosa, not Genocious Genosa. There's a 1315 01:21:56,359 --> 01:21:59,239 flag, there's a guy cloaked and like, okay, this is again. 1316 01:21:59,279 --> 01:22:01,319 I was surprised because we just saw him, but this is the present day. 1317 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,119 And then he has a bunch of rubble in his hand and he's like, 1318 01:22:04,119 --> 01:22:08,880 oh, so much death And we go up and it's big old Apocalypse, 1319 01:22:09,079 --> 01:22:11,319 the big old like I said, blue Booty Daddy. But then they 1320 01:22:11,359 --> 01:22:15,000 go down on his hand. The rubbel brushes away and it's Gambits card and 1321 01:22:15,119 --> 01:22:17,600 like we talked about a couple of weeks ago, that's how they bring him 1322 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,880 back. And I'm completely one harm recent fine with that. The time travel 1323 01:22:23,239 --> 01:22:25,800 I would not beIN for. But this is still gonna be he did the 1324 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:30,359 sacrifice. We're gonna get that cool moment when Rogue and the X Men gonna 1325 01:22:30,399 --> 01:22:32,800 fight Gambit and it's gonna be badass. Now they could also do I don't 1326 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:38,359 think they're going to, but there is a comic book where Wolverine becomes a 1327 01:22:38,359 --> 01:22:42,680 member of the Apocalypse because he wants his metal back, So there could be 1328 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,560 when we talk about where's Wolverine, there could be seen more on the side 1329 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:50,479 before so yeah too, so yeah, But either way, I'm happy Gambits 1330 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,239 coming back in this fashion. I still wouldn't find if he said help, 1331 01:22:54,359 --> 01:22:57,079 he's dead. That's the way it is. But if they're gonna bring him 1332 01:22:57,079 --> 01:23:00,199 back, I'm fine with him gonna do a little evil arc and I don't 1333 01:23:00,199 --> 01:23:02,439 know, maybe we'll do some stuff like because he died, his skin cells 1334 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,119 are dead so he can touch rogue like that. Like maybe they'll do some 1335 01:23:05,159 --> 01:23:11,720 sort of fucker like that. But I'm very excited to see him as the 1336 01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:15,760 the death horseman. I'm i the comics. It's a little may have a 1337 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:17,000 run, but I think they'll do a good job here. And but yeah, 1338 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,560 what do you guys think about one apocalypse obviously big bad so kind of 1339 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:26,680 like since the returning but new set of writers everything, and then Gambits presumably 1340 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,640 on his way back, but on on the bad side this time. I 1341 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,920 think, I'm I don't know, I gotta see it. Of course they 1342 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:40,600 can nail it, but I like consequences and I don't love Gambit comes back. 1343 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:45,279 Now I understand this is a different way and that would be very dramatic. 1344 01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:48,399 But I kind of like where this leaves off with Rogue, and so 1345 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,840 I don't know if we kind of just retried our ground now it sounds like 1346 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:55,279 we're gonna go through quite the battle to get there. Yeah, so I'm 1347 01:23:55,279 --> 01:23:57,600 sure it will all work out in the end, but I don't know. 1348 01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,279 I think, especially with you, you said too like we got enough people 1349 01:24:00,279 --> 01:24:03,279 on the team right now. We didn't like Beast, you know, had 1350 01:24:03,319 --> 01:24:06,720 like four scenes in this season, and Wolverine didn't get to do much. 1351 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,399 But that's fine because Wolverine was like the star of the original series. So 1352 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,000 I think it's fine. But yeah, I don't know, Like I don't 1353 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,439 I don't think we need to add more people back, and I think it's 1354 01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:19,800 good to lose people and have that be the case for longer than I don't 1355 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:24,920 know, three episodes. We'll see how long it takes for him to come 1356 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,239 back. But in theory, I'm not not a huge fan of It doesn't 1357 01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:31,359 excite me too much, but apoclipse does. I'm excited to see what he's 1358 01:24:31,399 --> 01:24:35,199 up to. It's always fun to see Apocalypse Ben a while, because season 1359 01:24:35,239 --> 01:24:38,640 five he wasn't really in it. He there's an episode, but it's just 1360 01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,359 him trying to get out and he never got out. So now he's out. 1361 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,239 Mm hmm, well he could get out. He was just he was 1362 01:24:45,399 --> 01:24:51,359 being resurrected, right. The dude fell like fell back on Apocalypse is like, 1363 01:24:51,439 --> 01:25:00,399 oh perfect, I'm back master, so sorry, actually says a question 1364 01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,000 like, is that what's gonna happen? He probably is that he's gonna resurrect 1365 01:25:03,159 --> 01:25:06,399 Gambit's corpse. Yeah, and he's gonna be deaf. That's usual what he 1366 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,800 does and gives them something. So yeah, he's gonna pull Gammon out of 1367 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,760 the ground and just hey, maybe that's what we get prior to Maybe my 1368 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,479 prior theory is gonna you know, it's gonna happen. Very possible, actually 1369 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:20,720 very possible, And he is. But I'm said that I don't think I 1370 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:25,199 don't think it will be prior. I think that that storyline will be done 1371 01:25:25,279 --> 01:25:28,199 for I think Wolverine has a shot because he'll there'll be some scene where he 1372 01:25:28,199 --> 01:25:30,680 goes to fight like a Sentinel and he can't beat them with his metal his 1373 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,920 bone claws. I'm such a loser now and I hate my life, and 1374 01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:38,560 they just cries and runs away. Like he might run. I don't know 1375 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,119 if it's gonna cry, but like I could see them doing that storyline where 1376 01:25:42,119 --> 01:25:45,960 he's just like I'm useless now, So I could see me coming a member 1377 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,720 of the pop. I don't know who. I should look it up. 1378 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:53,000 Who else the other members were when it seems like so unloganlike though, like 1379 01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,880 he wants the nerve or he doesn't want the nerve. He's got the nerve. 1380 01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:00,680 He wants the buff of the metal clause, but to just side with 1381 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,800 Apocalypse to get that. Maybe I just don't know him well enough, but 1382 01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,760 from what I've been shown, it just seems so unlopen, like you guy 1383 01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:10,920 seeing that happened after a few decades and then they're like we're out of ideas. 1384 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:16,159 That's it now. I hate it's so short. Yeah. The only 1385 01:26:16,199 --> 01:26:19,600 thing though, when he was at Apocalyps member, he was a member. 1386 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:24,319 He was death. So I don't know if you'd have because I think GAM's 1387 01:26:24,319 --> 01:26:26,560 gonna be death, so probably not there. I guess they could always change 1388 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,319 some things, but he had some What makes you think Gambit's gonna be death 1389 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,760 because he literally said death. He said so much death here and he's holding 1390 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,399 gambits. Card, I feel like that's as foreshadowing as you can get there. 1391 01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,680 But like, if you look at I'm trying to find a full screen 1392 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:44,840 image here of Wolverine, he's just holding the card. He's like so much 1393 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:55,119 disease. He's only my leech's head. But yeah, that was Wolverine, 1394 01:26:55,119 --> 01:27:00,520 he said. I actually loved the look of Wolverine there he has that I 1395 01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,079 don't know where it's taken me here, but that one right there, Yeah, 1396 01:27:04,119 --> 01:27:08,600 that's that's the Wolverine one right there. I really like that that look. 1397 01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,680 He's got the chastity belt on too. Yeah, but I was trying 1398 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,520 to find I was trying to find who else was on the team with them. 1399 01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:19,159 I found it like this one right here, But that's not uh so 1400 01:27:19,319 --> 01:27:23,520 I'll do some more. I'll do some more digging and stuff. But yeah, 1401 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,680 like but this is how they hit him at first. That's just like 1402 01:27:27,079 --> 01:27:30,640 that's just a yugo Card, I love it. Yeah, And then I 1403 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:38,880 will take a where's a gambit here, Chad saying Hulk Clausus Juggernaut, Oh 1404 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:43,119 oh, thank you, so Hull Clauses And that was a fucking stacked horseman 1405 01:27:43,399 --> 01:27:47,880 Hull classes Juggernaut and Wolverna with Apocallipse and he didn't bring the apocalypse my god. 1406 01:27:48,119 --> 01:27:50,479 Yeah, yeah, how do they lose that fight? They really suck. 1407 01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:56,359 But uh and then yeah, here's Gambit. He's he's seem sick. 1408 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,800 Yeah, so I think we're gonna get that white hair like look at that 1409 01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,439 that that's like put a red lightsaber in this man's hand and he's only the 1410 01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,880 blue VERSI I'm gonna be honest. I do like the I do like that 1411 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:09,199 other image though. Yeah, but and I don't know, Chad, if 1412 01:28:09,239 --> 01:28:12,279 you know who was the can you tell me who the members were when Gambit 1413 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,800 was on there? Because that's looking like that. Well that oh that's Central 1414 01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,840 Practice on the left. Yeah, so just curious, like that's and thanos 1415 01:28:21,399 --> 01:28:26,199 A wat to how did he lose that time? Yeah, I couldn't see 1416 01:28:26,199 --> 01:28:29,159 anything and so I needed it. But uh so, yeah, it's probably 1417 01:28:29,239 --> 01:28:30,760 not gonna be Wolverine. But that's another fun thing. We told who the 1418 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,119 X Men is, who will be those other horsemen? Could it be other 1419 01:28:34,159 --> 01:28:38,119 members of the people that did die at Genosha? Yeah, I think that 1420 01:28:38,159 --> 01:28:41,640 would be really cool if they went there out instead of just the nameless for 1421 01:28:42,079 --> 01:28:44,319 that they had before, and they had fun looks, but they never had 1422 01:28:44,359 --> 01:28:47,039 personalities and that original run, so I think that would be fun if they 1423 01:28:47,239 --> 01:28:50,840 made them all relevant characters and there's been a few deaths now and we have 1424 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:55,279 a fuel to do that kind of thing. Yeah, Travis, because you 1425 01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,279 just said, I had to look it up. So the area of the 1426 01:28:59,279 --> 01:29:00,640 moon, it was the blue area of the Moon. I'll think that's what 1427 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,720 was titled. And there's some crazy stuff that's gone in there I won't reveal 1428 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:09,720 for some fun purposes, but that's where they fought Dark Phoenix apparently or ex 1429 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:14,960 Heroes. Also contains the Citadel of Uatu, so there you go. Sorry, 1430 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,920 the is that the reno you're talking about earlier? Yeah, like where 1431 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:25,680 Rogue was fighting. Okay, so the people that he had on the Apocalypse 1432 01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:30,439 for when Gamut was there with Sunfire Polaris, which will Magneil's daughter, so 1433 01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:38,439 you could always have something there. And then Gazers cousin as I look up, 1434 01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:41,840 I don't think he's related to spell the same though, like she A 1435 01:29:42,199 --> 01:29:45,159 Z E R. He's like an alien look on mother fun with like hyphen 1436 01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:48,640 though or no no hyphen Okay, Yeah, different relatives. Okay, so 1437 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:53,920 not as spicy of a roster, definitely not. No, Like, I 1438 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,920 guess you could do this roster minus hal, Like, who would you swap 1439 01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:00,880 out? Let's say you got Gambit, Colosses, Juggernaut. Who would be 1440 01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,600 a good Hulk replacement Red Hulk? No, I'm trying to think of another 1441 01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:11,119 X Man scar, Blob, she Hulk? Who the scar? Oh that 1442 01:30:11,399 --> 01:30:16,960 scar the son of Hulk? Come on? Who else died? Who else 1443 01:30:17,039 --> 01:30:25,199 can we use? Leech? Leech? I just think prior. What's that 1444 01:30:25,279 --> 01:30:30,600 one nerdy kid that got in one of the later seasons of the animated show 1445 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:35,600 X Men Rogues ex boyfriend? No, you have the glasses and oh that 1446 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:42,880 dweeby guy. Yeah, the wee guy. They got Juggernauts powers. Yeah, 1447 01:30:43,119 --> 01:30:46,600 you know, to get girls throw Dazzler on the Apocalypse. See what 1448 01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,520 like her singing powers are with the Horseman powers? Hell, yeah, that'd 1449 01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:55,279 be fun. We get Songbird. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, 1450 01:30:55,319 --> 01:30:57,920 I'm excited. I'm excited to see that new version. I'm excited to see 1451 01:30:58,239 --> 01:31:00,439 because I think these writers handle all these villains pretty well, like I have 1452 01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,079 some conc here in there, but to see what they do with the Pocalypse, 1453 01:31:03,319 --> 01:31:06,119 especially after so many seasons of what he's done? What can they do? 1454 01:31:06,199 --> 01:31:13,279 So yeah, no, I was hyped on that card reveal because you 1455 01:31:13,319 --> 01:31:15,840 know, I was in such disbelief that Gambit was actually gonna die. I 1456 01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,000 really thought he was just going to come back this season. But no, 1457 01:31:18,119 --> 01:31:23,159 they did a good job at sticking to their guns, and I think it's 1458 01:31:23,159 --> 01:31:26,720 one of those things that Okay, they kept away for one season, but 1459 01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,000 like, he's got to come back in one way, shape or form, 1460 01:31:29,039 --> 01:31:33,640 and I'm glad the way that we're getting him back is through Apocalypse as as 1461 01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,880 opposed to, like, you know, our heroes going back in time to 1462 01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:46,119 stop the whole event. I found he's just there, didn't die anything else. 1463 01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:51,880 Any other notes, You look like you're creeping the mic. Did you 1464 01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:56,479 have any more say on Gambit? Did I cut you off the I think 1465 01:31:56,600 --> 01:32:00,800 that you know why, you could stew on it a little bit longer and 1466 01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:04,319 really just leave him on the back burner being dead. There's nothing wrong with 1467 01:32:04,359 --> 01:32:08,920 that. I don't think you necessarily need to rush to bring him back because 1468 01:32:09,119 --> 01:32:14,600 he just had such an impactful death in this in the season. So I'm 1469 01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,319 absolutely not a post just kind of keeping him away, bring them back in 1470 01:32:17,359 --> 01:32:20,079 like season three or something like that, and just give us like the time 1471 01:32:20,159 --> 01:32:24,800 just to focus on what's going on now at the present. But that being 1472 01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,199 said, I'm totally welcome to see him come back and see if he is 1473 01:32:28,359 --> 01:32:33,039 actually this this one of the four horsemen working for the Gona sell toys. 1474 01:32:33,079 --> 01:32:36,800 They're gonna sell those Gambit white hair toys. I'm telling you, you're gonna 1475 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:41,199 yeah, yeah, I'm I'm I'm ecstatic for it. I think that'll look 1476 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,760 look cool. I mean, either way, like I said, I'll be 1477 01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,680 happy this shows. This show has just been fantastic. Well, Taylor, 1478 01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,319 what would you give this episode for thumbs and then what would you give the 1479 01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:55,600 entire season for raining? I'm gonna slide both my thumbs right up there and 1480 01:32:58,039 --> 01:33:04,159 then raw dog them. This this show has been fantastic. I think the 1481 01:33:04,199 --> 01:33:06,760 best thing in the world was that we did this red show because X Men 1482 01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:11,319 is just great. I love x Men. It's a fantastic show. We've 1483 01:33:11,319 --> 01:33:14,800 come. I was like, yeah, how far we've come. So I 1484 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,560 think that they did great things in this season, which just it feels like 1485 01:33:20,079 --> 01:33:27,159 I wasn't there in those those young adolescent days when the community was really rallying 1486 01:33:27,159 --> 01:33:30,920 and watching every weekend morning the X Men ninety cent or x Men, the 1487 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:35,159 original animated series, So I didn't get to enjoy that feeling. But I 1488 01:33:35,239 --> 01:33:41,079 understand watching this show how people that grew up watching that original show have just 1489 01:33:41,159 --> 01:33:44,720 been embracing this and feel like, Okay, this is such a great continuation. 1490 01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,760 I can feel all those nostalgic vibes again, and it's just I'm happy 1491 01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,680 that I can kind of piggyback a little bit on that, because if this 1492 01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:57,279 hype level stays consistent and we get more of this into other animated shows as 1493 01:33:57,279 --> 01:34:00,199 well, then I just it gets me really really jazz. So I hope 1494 01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:03,319 that they don't drop the ball. This has been great, Loki has been 1495 01:34:03,359 --> 01:34:14,159 great, and I'm hoping the Deadpool No Deadpool is great year. But I 1496 01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:18,560 honestly I forget about Echo quite often. It's it's just tracked someone with those 1497 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:25,199 in that show. He tried to, he tried to tried, I guess 1498 01:34:25,399 --> 01:34:29,920 coming on to I goought i'd be more excited, especially the use of like 1499 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,159 using practical magic and not a lot of CI magics, all card tricks that 1500 01:34:33,359 --> 01:34:36,760 they say, yeah, that's what that's I kid you don't. They also 1501 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:44,119 lied about the title like seven times, so it's all I don't believe anything. 1502 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:46,840 What's your number nine on the season together? If you want to drop 1503 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:53,319 one, Oh, I'm dropping, it's a ten. I'm dropping it's a 1504 01:34:53,359 --> 01:34:57,800 ten. There you go. Chris found thoughts thumbs No, I mean, 1505 01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,960 yeah, there's there's so much that happened in this season. I think, 1506 01:35:01,279 --> 01:35:04,760 you know, maybe the biggest thing for me is that through that old original 1507 01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:10,439 series and honestly any live action thing, all my history of being into Marvel 1508 01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:14,800 stuff, Scott and Jane, I don't care about these characters. They're kind 1509 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,520 of lame. I love them. I think they did such a good job 1510 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:20,800 in this series of you know, infusing so much personality into them, seeing 1511 01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:25,279 different angles of them, getting more into the backstory, learning a lot more 1512 01:35:25,319 --> 01:35:28,359 about them, and then just seeing them pop off with power, with their 1513 01:35:28,359 --> 01:35:30,159 powers and the way I've never seen before too. So I think that's maybe 1514 01:35:30,199 --> 01:35:33,880 like the one thing that I'm most grateful for from this show. But overall, 1515 01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:36,600 it was such a good time thinking back some of those earlier episodes and 1516 01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:42,279 the crazy stuff we got getting my boy Mojo in there. Rowe continues to 1517 01:35:42,319 --> 01:35:46,079 be my favorite character. She's so fun. Bashian was a really really fun 1518 01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:49,479 villain, you know up there. If we did a ranking, you know, 1519 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:54,000 for all this this X Men series, he would probably be like a 1520 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:58,319 top five villain for me, maybe across the whole thing. I had a 1521 01:35:58,319 --> 01:36:01,720 really great time with the show. I'm gonna give this episode the double thumbs 1522 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:08,920 for sure. I think I'm gonna go with a nine point three seven five 1523 01:36:09,119 --> 01:36:13,680 for my overall series ranking. It's not ten, it's not quite a nine 1524 01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:17,199 point five, but it's really really great, really really solid great stuff. 1525 01:36:17,239 --> 01:36:21,359 Anyone would be happy to get a score like that. So there you go, 1526 01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:29,479 mister Pats, mister me. Yeah, I think that this episode is 1527 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:35,560 a solid two thumbs in the up direction. No, it was fantastic. 1528 01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:44,680 I mediocre steaming pilot in the air. No, yeah, this show is 1529 01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:49,279 fantastic. Not quite perfect, but like better than a nine point five in 1530 01:36:49,319 --> 01:36:54,720 my mind. So I'm gonna go nine point eight seven five. I think. 1531 01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:58,960 Oh I still okay. I inspired by Dylan with that one. I 1532 01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:00,359 know that's gonna funk you with you know, let's get funky with it. 1533 01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:06,399 No, I like it's just I feel like the highs were so skyrocketed past 1534 01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:11,800 asteroid m level of highs like it it is way up there, and some 1535 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,600 minor things like I mean I didn't really talk about it, but like personally, 1536 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,720 I feel like the whole Storm thing was like pretty underwhelming. Like she 1537 01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:23,560 had some cool moments I guess when she came back, which but when she 1538 01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,439 came back, like she's already kind of hit the fan, and like she 1539 01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:30,199 has a couple pop ups there, she's just there to look cool with her 1540 01:37:30,239 --> 01:37:32,119 new outfit, and she does look great, you know, my beautiful Storm. 1541 01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:41,720 But yeah, Storm, I'm exciting. I'm hoping for some more moments 1542 01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:45,039 with her, I think in the next season, but like they also kind 1543 01:37:45,039 --> 01:37:49,680 of set an episode or two aside just for her, and I kind of 1544 01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:56,079 think that was a little bit underwhelming, And like some some other minor things 1545 01:37:56,079 --> 01:37:59,199 like what we already talked about with the team breaking up and how the fallout 1546 01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:03,199 didn't seem quite as severe as it should have been. But like, yeah, 1547 01:38:03,279 --> 01:38:08,079 those are some gripes, but like everything around it was still really well 1548 01:38:08,119 --> 01:38:11,159 done. It's more so I just wanted more of what was done there. 1549 01:38:12,319 --> 01:38:16,119 And yeah, no, I such a fantastic it's wild to me, Like 1550 01:38:16,159 --> 01:38:18,720 I was hoping that the show would be really great just because we're coming out 1551 01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:23,399 the retro. But this is just so much better than I could have expected. 1552 01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:27,760 And they really really really just up the caliber. You know, they're 1553 01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,760 shooting us with little pea shooters. Now we're getting hit with the fifty calibers 1554 01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:33,039 and I'm just I'm taking it right through the body and it's it's good, 1555 01:38:33,119 --> 01:38:39,319 good pain. Oh. I already drummer, right, and there you going 1556 01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:45,239 some five there you go. Yeah, I'm gonna go a thumb and a 1557 01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:49,079 seventy five degree thumb up because I do some issues with the finale and I'm 1558 01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:53,560 gonna go kind of similar to you guys, and you know, not just 1559 01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,279 because the show, but in honor of the show kind of works. I'm 1560 01:38:56,279 --> 01:39:00,920 gonna give it a nine point seventy five. So this is definitely better than 1561 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,000 I thought was. Like, I love the original show, but when we 1562 01:39:03,039 --> 01:39:06,880 rewatch it, there's obviously some lulls that happen, right, But this was 1563 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:11,760 just more mature than I thought it was ever, gonna be way more deeper 1564 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,319 than I thought it was gonna be. So as somebody that just even years 1565 01:39:14,359 --> 01:39:15,960 ago when they announced it, I remember when we did were there at comic 1566 01:39:16,039 --> 01:39:18,960 Connor No. I guess this was just a random D twenty three, like 1567 01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,880 they now on a timeline or something. But I just remember, man, 1568 01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:28,119 I never thought we'd get more X men. I've watched it I don't know 1569 01:39:28,159 --> 01:39:30,119 how many times because me and Gwen, especially now that Gwen is you know, 1570 01:39:30,199 --> 01:39:32,800 once she came in the picture. Now of the other girls like that 1571 01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,680 inspirement. They're usually on rotation like every year and a half or so. 1572 01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:40,960 So the fact that that's happened is this good is great because like there could 1573 01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,560 have been some they could have got far at least on nostalgia that would have 1574 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,119 got them a little bit, but they didn't. They used that, but 1575 01:39:47,159 --> 01:39:51,479 they didn't just rely on that, you know. They they sprinkle it in 1576 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:57,239 at the key moments. But they also created something entirely new in some functions. 1577 01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,760 I think, as we've talked about before, there's minor gripes that I 1578 01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:01,880 have. If my enjoyment level is like a ten, but my critical I 1579 01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:05,399 can't just give a full thing because I have a few character moments for Choices. 1580 01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:09,960 I have a few character moments for Beast Robbie. Yet you maybe even 1581 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:15,720 storm a little bit Bishop as far as Okay, maybe a slight being underwhelmed, 1582 01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:17,039 but overall, I'm not gonna look back at this show of like my 1583 01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,560 like the nine points. If I'm gonna be like, man, it should 1584 01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:24,640 have been a ten like in this finale. I'm a little disappointed in some 1585 01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,359 aspects, but just because we're breaking it down. When I'm gonna look back 1586 01:40:27,359 --> 01:40:29,800 on this, it's gonna be a major win. And I hope we get 1587 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,039 many seasons of X Men. I hope this inspires all the other X Men 1588 01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:35,880 stuff in general or Marvel stuff just to look at this, and same thing 1589 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,520 with the X Men, like it's, uh, I don't have to worry 1590 01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:42,600 about the GA, but for me, it's like now the bar is set, 1591 01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:45,920 and uh. I'm not gonna say I'm worried for the mcux men, 1592 01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:47,479 but I am slightly because I just look at this. I go, man, 1593 01:40:48,239 --> 01:40:50,680 I don't know. I just hope that they can be as mature as 1594 01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:54,479 this show is, you know, like kids. My kids are watching this 1595 01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,880 and there's definitely some dark stuff, but they can still enjoy it. Why 1596 01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,760 I enjoy you know, it's like the Pixar when it's at that's best thing, 1597 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,279 you know, So we'll see. But yeah, just a triumph for 1598 01:41:03,359 --> 01:41:05,760 Disney. And because this could have gone wrong, it could have been man, 1599 01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:09,760 they brought back X Men and it really sucked and they should have just 1600 01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,439 left it where it was, but no, they practically hit out of the 1601 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,800 park. And I'm looking very forward to season two. I'm just very thankful 1602 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,760 this thing exists. And I you know, like we talked about, you 1603 01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:21,720 know, Morph telling wolver and hey, that could be your soulmate telling little 1604 01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:26,319 Travis, you know years later. Man, like you're gonna get this great 1605 01:41:26,359 --> 01:41:30,319 show that's ten episodes and all this stuff, and h yeah, it's a 1606 01:41:30,399 --> 01:41:31,840 it's a full circle. But yeah, it's sad that we're done Alvisos. 1607 01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,560 We got other X Men stuff coming up, but this is such a journey 1608 01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,800 and now it's just like it's gonna be all on the back burner, hidden 1609 01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:42,039 away for a while. But we'll be here. We'll be ready when that 1610 01:41:42,119 --> 01:41:45,399 theme hits, when we got a trailer announcement, we will be here reviewing 1611 01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:46,960 all that. Thank you to everyone that checked out all these episodes, because 1612 01:41:47,319 --> 01:41:50,159 animation is always a little iffy as far as hell well it does, and 1613 01:41:50,199 --> 01:41:53,279 they all did pretty well. So the big thank you to everyone that's been 1614 01:41:53,279 --> 01:41:56,760 with us whole time. Any questions with theories bring them up. Of course 1615 01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:00,479 the newscast we could talk about them. But yes, until next I'm it 1616 01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:05,840 will not be boring. Bye. Really no, I don't know