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What's up? Everybody? Welcome to
Rose Pricks. It's done. It's done.

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It's in the in the rear view
already, it's in the bag.

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Do you feel like now I was
not spoiled for this, right, but

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sadly only because I didn't care.
I wasn't even like tempted, because I

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was like, none of this matters. None of this matters. Is this

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was the first season. And listen, you're already listening, So it's not

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like you're gonna be like, well, if they don't care, I don't

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care, Like, listen to the
show. We're gonna still be funny about

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it. But like, did anybody
care about any of these people? I'm

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asking? Here's the funny thing about
that. When we're taking notes on this

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show. If the first line,
so I write, I wrote finale,

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you know, because so I'd forget
for some reason, And the first line

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is why is Tanner still there?
If that's the first line, that's the

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first person they're kind of showing you, like on a show that you already

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sort of don't care about. You're
like, this isn't there's something wrong here?

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I will say, though, I
got pretty steamed up. Oh that

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sounds wrong. No, not like
sexy steamed. That sounded weird, not

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like I got hot for these people. I got mad. So I guess

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if the idea is to make us
feel something, I felt a lot of

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anger this episode, a lot at
whom Well, I think, I'm so

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glad you asked, uh huh?
One would be like when they had Jared

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to pop up in a commercial like
I lost my mind. I'm like,

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what are we doing? Who made
this choice? Who? I mean,

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did he just decide to finally marry
Ashley? I just so that he could

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be on commercials because I can't imagine
another reason. I don't know, but

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if you're gonna choose between the two
of them for commercials, do actually I

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agree? Really agree? Then he
just pops up and it was a weird

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news alert. Remember they were doing
like Bachelor news. Yes, so freaking

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I mean, I was like,
get the fuck off my tea. All

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of this has to stop. Although
I will spoiler I did cry at the

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very end. Really yeah, I
haven't been sleeping, though, I think

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that's what it is. Honestly,
Okay, let's get into it. Okay,

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And and I'm I'm steamed similar to
you pottered to the collar about I

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could not take Kylie one more minute. I was happy when she left.

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I was so relieved. I was
just like, think, God, I

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can't if she mentions getting I mean, what the fuck? Yeah? Now,

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I've said this from the beginning,
You've been kinder to her than I

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have. She is really annoying.
She's so annoying. You're you were one

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hundred percent right. I had no
idea that she was going to be this

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focused on well, like, what
is wrong with her? I know she's

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a little she's young, but they're
all young. Because I kept looking when

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they fly, I think she's like
twenty five. But still, I mean,

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you know, she still has the
Only reason this works out for this

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works for her is because she's really
really beautiful. I don't think that if

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you were trying to force a guy
to marry you after knowing you for two

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weeks in any other realm this that
would work. Anybody would just be like,

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go fuck yourself. But they did. They did say five weeks.

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Jesse says that near the end,
I'm like, oh, this was five

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weeks. No, it wasn't.
Though every I think he's I think he's

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lying. It's definitely not five weeks. That's crazy. It's never been five

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weeks. It's only it's been not
even it's been like three and a half

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weeks in the past, and now
it's it's less than three weeks. I

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believe you. I mean, I'm
not calling Jesse a layer, but I

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think maybe five weeks included their casting
and shit, you know who who knows

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or announcements or something. Because he
said it very clearly. Yeah, well

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it's not true. I mean everything
reality Steve said it. A lot of

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the different reporting is that this was
the shortest ever. Yeah, I'm not.

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I mean, you can tell,
like, okay, So I did

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also say something else where I was
completely off. I just wrote a Lessah

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and Aaron b are not making it. Somehow I got some like feeling that

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they weren't going to make it.
Oh but they're not going to make it

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that you will ever. Ever,
I didn't think they'd make it to the

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because she's she's he's talking to her
at the beginning, and she doesn't she

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can't even look at him. She's
like looking at the camera, she's looking

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anywhere but him, and the opening
sort of shot and interesting, I think

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she said into him, but she
is, so we know though that the

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are probably not together anymore from the
sort of that end part. So do

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you think that do you think she
was kind of faking it the whole time?

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Well, that was gonna be a
question. Could they fake an engagement

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just to sell the ring, because
isn't the ring free? They don't have

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to pay for their own ring.
I don't think so. Like, I

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wonder if they get to keep it
and then they just sell it and split

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it. That's what I would do. It's possible, whisper that shit.

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I would take my mic off.
I'd be like, I'm getting in the

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shower, let's get in the shower
together, and then take the mic off,

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right, Yeah, in the shower, just be like, just propose

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and we'll sell this fucking ring.
But unfortunately, I think that Aarin I

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believed. I am with you on
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Eliza, But I feel like Aarin
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goes all in immediately. I think
he was like that with Charity. I

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totally believe that he was a bit
obsessed with Charity. Oh. I think

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he was into her Eliza as well. I just don't think she was into

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him, Although I agree. Changed
my mind at the end when she's crying

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and shaking like a kind of maybe
she got wrapped like kind of the attention.

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Yes, caught up in it.
But that's how she was with Rodney

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and Justin Remember she was just like
going from guy to guy like, Oh,

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she loves the attention so much it
just makes her high. Yeah,

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yeah, okay, I don't want
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end with the Chiron, is that
what you're talking about that they don't end

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up together? Because it said that
they were going they were still together?

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Did they split? Did They didn't
really say they were together. It said

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they're working on their relationship, so
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they're together or they're like thinking about
things, or they're taking a break but

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they're open to continuing. It didn't
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I had a glass half full on
that one. I was like surprised,

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But I mean, but why would
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if they were doing okay, why
would they say we've they ran into trouble,

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they've hit some speed bumps and they're
I mean, we can look up

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exactly what the wording was, but
it didn't sound good. But they're working

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through things well before we get so, can we just talk about Mercedes and

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Jess and why Jess was stroking Mercedes's
here. Oh. I was so triggered

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by that, and I don't know
why. It made me feel so uncomfortable.

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I was like what stop? It
was insane. It was like no

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better or different than like a massage
chain in like theater school, like stop.

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If I had been something felt so
off about it, but I'd be

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like, look, we're close,
but we really honestly just met. This

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isn't camp even at camp that kind
of stuff. I remember being at camp

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one time, summer camp, right, and there was like a group of

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people and they were very It's like
it was just a warm everyone's super close

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and touchy, and I always felt
like really insecure, like I didn't want

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to like lay in someone's lap,
like what if I smelled bad or something?

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You know what I mean? That
everybody was always just all the boys

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and girls, they were all just
like laying on each other and didn't weren't

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never scared of that, like just
so tough, like that's a it's a

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choice. And I think I'm just
envious of the choice, but I've never

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leaned over. Can you imagine if
you and I were somewhere and I just

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started like like stroking your hair.
Oh, I would be so uncomfortable.

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I don't know what would you do, Like would you just be like,

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yeah, no, I'm not that
girl. I don't know if I would

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say that, I would just kind
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Like I would pretend that I'm just
trying to get comfortable, like my leg

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is in a weird position or something, and I would just kind of move

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and then hope that you don't like
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You know. It's like when someone's
holding your hand. Do you ever

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have like a female friend like start
holding your hand, Yeah, in a

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platonic way, and it's so up
and then you're like, how do I

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like, how soon can I pull
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hey, no, cool, I
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support me, but I don't like
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I was actually getting my nails done. This is real. I can't

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believe this is coming up, But
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ago, just getting my nails done, and the lady like she was done,

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and I would say we were just
talking, and I would say something

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that she I guess that was funny, and she just kept grabbing and like

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my arm really hard and like not
letting go. And I didn't know what

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to do because I wanted to be
like, well, that's nice you like

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me, but also you don't have
to touch me this much, Like this

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transaction is kind of over as far
as like wretching my hands right right right,

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like, I never opt for the
massage. Sometimes they just throw that in,

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but I'd never like, oh,
yeah, you can massage all my

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knuckles, lady who I just met, I mean, I guess that's massage

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is in general, But that was
just so freaking weird and it was so

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stupid. I'd forgot. I mean, it's so this was such a long

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episode that was that feels like you're
ago that this was even happening, and

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so then there's just all so I
just despise Jess. I have such a

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strong reaction to her that I know, I know that you have your people,

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cat, that you really have a
strong reaction to mine is Jess.

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I just I don't get it.
I think she's so transparently like self centered.

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And you know, she opens the
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just really hard not having Blakela here
to compliment my outfit, like she's still

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on that. She actually just says
that she's like, I'm so glad because

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I'm so sad that Blake's gone,
because like, you know, who will

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look at me? Yeah, who
will look at me? He looked at

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me like you're so hot? I
mean Tanner tell me I'm pretty. Yeah,

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And she doesn't. She didn't want
to be with Tanner. She doesn't

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want She just wanted somebody to be
paying a lot of attention to her.

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I don't know, she should have
ended up with Tanner. They're both the

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same. Yeah, And then but
then she cried I don't know. So

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then that was the poor Tanner.
When she's having the whole conversation with him,

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he's like, doesn't really care.
It's like someone breaking up with you

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that you don't even think you're together, right, you know. So she's

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like, I just I'm sorry,
I just can't. I gotta go,

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and he's like cool, cool,
yeah, Like so you want to go

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home, and she's like yeah,
and he goes okay, yeah, exactly.

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I thought he was actually really cute. This is the first time I

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feel like you and I have had
little disagreements about him. I've always thought

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he was kind of hot. I
don't think you did it, And this

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time I was like, he's really
hot. And I think it's because he

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just doesn't give a shit. I
can see that. Yeah, I don't.

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I definitely don't get it. I
don't think he's cute at all,

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and I can see why he hasn't
ended up with anybody, although he has

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the thing of when one of the
girls likes him to my he doesn't like

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her. He's attractive to the ones
that don't like him. Yeah, when

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he thought Rachel was picking Jordan,
that's when he made his move on Rachel.

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Remember, oh that's right, But
he was just and then he knows

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Jess really that into him, so
then he's like, Okay, I'll make

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like a play for her. Yeah. I think that's just because they want

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to stay on the beat. They
just want to stay there. They just

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want to be there. It's a
vacation and they want to party with their

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friends. Like I kind of get
it at this point though, there's only

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one day left, right right,
so it's like just go home and okay.

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And then when some of the people
left, like when some of the

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people were leaving that weren't going to
ever be together, everybody is acting like

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this is the worst thing, Like
there was like a hurricane right right,

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which is just absolutely you're right.
It was ridiculous. They're all crying,

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they're making the big deal. But
then so then they pop up and they're

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like, okay, a date card. Let's finally let these people go on

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a date. Since they're about to
get married, right, might as well

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let them have a date. And
this was such a non date. This

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is Cat Cat and John Henry.
Cat and John Henry get a date,

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and it's basically to just like travel
like a few feet down the beach with

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a picnic. It's like, that's
not a date. Also, especially because

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Kat is one of the people that
really bugged me and continues to although I

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understand that she kind of somehow like
reinvented herself in a day all of a

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sudden, she's like, I just
really he goes. He's like, one

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thing I love about you is that
you just are so kind. I care

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about people. She's like, you're
right, I do care about people,

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like too much. I you know, so one thing one thing to know

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about me is I'm too caring.
And it's like I put I don't put

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myself first enough. I really need
to start putting myself first. Yeah,

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she's like, and you know,
one thing, I never lash out at

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my friend. I never say awful
things. And thank you for seeing that

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about me. That is one thing, Like I'm you know what, no

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one. And then okay, so
she's trying to trauma. Okay, this

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is my favorite part and I know
you probably wrote this down too, but

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generational trauma. So she's talking about
her trauma. Fine, trying to trauma

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bond. I get it, I
do it. I get it. So

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she's like yeah, and then it
gets kind of she's like, yeah,

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I was putting a group home like
that. I was surprised by that.

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I was like, yeah, I
shived a couple of people. And then

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he's to relate basically, and I
was like, I was depressed once,

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yes, seven years ago, Like
the fuck, dude. She's like,

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my parents gave me away when I
was a kid, and I never really

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had a relationship with them since.
Yeah, I was really tired once seven

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years ago. I just like I
did our you know, our football team

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loss that one time, and I
was pretty down. Ye, and I've

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never told anybody about it before.
Oh so this so you're ready to get

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married now You've literally never even mentioned
depression before. Right now, you're like

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cool, cool I mentioned it to
her, and now I'm like ready to

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marry her. That was totally close. It's like, I love that he

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was depressed one time. I just
wrote not always like the rest of us.

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One time seven years ago. You
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years ago that one day. Yes, yeah, yeah, there's the ocean

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making out. So that worked out. I guess this is like depression goals

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for most people, of course,
like wow, oh yeah, I would

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love to have depression one time and
then do a Ted talks on a friend.

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Her just gets her just gets crazy
or crazier. She's like, yeah,

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I had a tough you know,
no one's also I kind of I

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know all. I know that it
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when families break up. We both
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and many other things, and I
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like divorce is sort of a fifty
to fifty thing at this point,

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it's like that can't be your trauma. I'm sorry, but being put in

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a group home that is. So
that's what was surprising. She kind of

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starts out slow, like no one's
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she was saying, like I don't
really have people modeling behavior of where people

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sort of stay together, right,
But yeah, the home, Like and

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she said when she said I left
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going to I mean, I also, you also left home at like seventeen,

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and I was also living in it. I also lived in a group

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home for Remember the runaway shelter that
I was put in when I was sixteen

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and was there for like a few
weeks. Oh my god, I didn't

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actually remember that. I mean,
now that you say it, I know.

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My mother didn't want me in the
house and sent me when we moved

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to Springfield, Massachusetts and put me
at a runaway shelter until they told her

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that she can't just put me in
they she can't just not come back for

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me. Basically, oh my god, she reluctantly took me back, so

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I relate to Cat. But I
will say, we don't diagnose people here,

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but with the I'm not a I'm
not a licensed therapist, but I

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do think it's possible she's a bit
borderline or has some personality disorder. I

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based that on her behavior, her
very extreme behavior, and how she is

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when she gets a little a dumped
or cornered in some way. Yeah.

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Right, so I think that now
we're I think maybe that's the explanation,

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you know, because borderline is usually
from trauma. So yeah, maybe she

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does have a lot of trauma.
And you know, I don't know.

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It made me feel for her.
I felt for her there too, and

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then and then she just changed so
completely, like she didn't show any of

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those She didn't show any of any
of that. The rest of the episode.

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She was just like the chillest,
like most spiritual. No, kind

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of didn't make sense. So maybe
she was just drunk. Maybe it's not

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a personality disorder. I mean,
I hear you. I agree with you,

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but like maybe she was just wasted, or maybe it just comes out

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like we've seen like many sides to
Kat within a two week period, because

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there is something wrong. Yeah,
yeah, but I don't know. She's

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supposedly still with him. It was
fascinating. Aaron and Alessa they get their

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day card. I'm like, oh
god, more boring? How much more

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boring can it be? Those two
going on a date, Like, so

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that's fine, that was fine,
Okay, so we yeah, because I

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have also the Tanner just stuff.
But that was oh yeah, okay,

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so what we skip that? Okay? Yeah, Aaron and Eliza have their

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date. Okay, I'm with you. And then what was this? I

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okay, so I may have jumped
around a little bit because maybe they were

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jumping around, But this is when
Kylie was like, my toxic trait?

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Did you write this down? Something
about like my toxic trait is always not?

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Oh yeah. This is where it
came into play that Kylie, all

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of a sudden it seems like they're
going to put her with Blake. I

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mean, obviously that's the vibe they're
trying to bring here, right that all

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of I don't want that. No, I thought, because they showed her

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chasing, you know, running after
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So I took that as just like, oh my god, suddenly like she

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and Blake are best friends. I
never thought, No, I think she

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just wanted I think Blake is like, you know, everybody's gay best friend

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who's not gay one, but I
thought I really thought they were. She's

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like, well, I was really
hoping Blake would come back miracles do have

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the way that she said it to
camera, I think they were trying to

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lead us down to that, like
that's her hairy, she's gonna as salas.

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Okay, I didn't take it like
that, but I can I can

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understand why you did. And also
we never it's bad editing again because we

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never saw them be best friends,
Like it just came out of nowhere last

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week where it was like, no, oh, you can't leave your my

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everything? What Blake? That dude. Which later when they're doing their rave

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and they're all on Molly or whatever
and the like glitter tank tops, that's

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like he was thriving. I mean
he just looked great. I mean he

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really everybody did. They all did, yes, yeah, but okay,

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so yeah, you're right then.
So that was a little bit of a

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mixed in. And then we had
the dumb date where the lady blows an

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is it conquer conch shell? I
think it's conch Okay, she blows the

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shell and then they have to get
so back to Aaron b and Eliza,

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they have to get naked, right, that was them, and then they

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have to express their fears over like
fire. Yes, but of course you

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know. So Tanner is talking about
Aaron and Eliza and he's like, they've

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been through so much and they've overcome
so many obstacles. What obstacles? What

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they've been on a bait, on
a beach, hanging out obstacles? What

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zero obstacles? What obstacles? What
have they been through? What have they

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been through? I'll tell you because
when the lady makes a good naked and

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talk about their fears, he's like, I always have a fear of rejection.

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There's an obstacle. And then this
she calls on the ant Oh,

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let me let me purify you with
fire. May the ancestors make you have

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peace and love around each other.
And it's like these poor ancestors. Let

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them sleep or let them solve another
problem. There's like stuff going on in

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the Middle East that they could be
like put you know, like they're shit

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to do right, not their relationship
of like like don't you hate that?

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It's like calling on like the native
ancestors to like, I agree, and

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also what is the problem the ancestors
need to fix that Aaron is insecure?

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Like, help Aaron not feel scared
that Eliza doesn't love him every bit as

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much as he loves her. Like, that's not a realistic thing to need

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outside help for. That's wrong with
it. If you have anything left over,

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Ukraine could use some hup. If
I'm just throwing it out there to

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the ancestors, Once Aaron b feels
secure again, right, could you throw

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a little love and peace somewhere else? Obviously Aaron comes first, don't get

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us wrong. Clearly he needs help
feeling more serene. But yet then if

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you got a minute, they're probably
just like we are so tired. I

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lived a full life. Now where
goes? Please stop like having us bless

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people with this fire. So while
while, uh, while Aaron and Eliza

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are having their date and having their
insecurity, Kylie has decided that what's really

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really hard for her is seeing the
fact that Aaron is like, probably in

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a really unhealthy way, really sure
that he wants to be with Eliza.

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It's not necessarily a good thing,
Kylie. It's because he's fucked up and

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insecure and weird and like wants to
lock it down with anybody that looks twice

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at him. That's not a good
thing. But she's decided that Avan,

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who's normal and thinks that getting engaged
after two weeks is not a good thing,

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is will not bend to her wishes
and be like Aaron. So now

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she's mad, and she's like,
it's just really so hard for me that

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like that Aaron wants to propose to
Eliza, and like Avan isn't there yet,

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and that makes me so sad and
mad, right, she's so mad.

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That's when I started being really mad
at her. Well that is,

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and I was out of order because
I called. You know, we talked

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about this at the beginning, but
that's when and that's when it cut to

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Jess twirling Mercedes's hair. By the
way, I just said that we're in

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order, in case anyone was confused
by that. And then, oh god,

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Olivia, I'm surprised Olivia was even
still there too. We had to

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have a fake conversation about then.
I know, we already skipped ahead of

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Olivia is so completely delusional. Yeah, she thinks she's a relationship with every

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guy. I think she's hopeful.
I don't. Yeah, I don't.

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Delusional sounds meaner than I meant,
But I think that it's fun. I

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think each guy is not. Like
I bet you. She and Michael the

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yacht captain have like made out a
couple of times. Oh yeah, they've

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definitely made out, because we saw
them make out. She seemed very high.

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I know there's no way she could
be high on the beach, but

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she seemed very high in every I
don't know if we're calling him confessionals or

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whatever. On the flies, like
she seemed out of it. And then

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even when she pulled him a little
bit, like she seemed a little Maybe

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she's just tired. Yeah, that's
possible. Kylie is like one of my

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toxic traits. Yes, that's what
I was talking about before. Yes,

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is I'm always searching for the next
best thing. But with Avon, I'm

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all in. I mean it's been
two weeks, so like that's enough for

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me. Like I'm all in.
Like, bitch, you're going to go

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off of it. You're going to
change your mind about him too, trust

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me, right, And she's so
upset and then even gets kind of mad

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that she's upset, which I understood. Totally get and that's is that when

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she's crying and even just leaves,
he does not comfort her. He's just

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like, not yet, Okay,
it's later, Okay, yes, So

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I said to myself, I'm like, even you don't have to marry her

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right now, do you not?
And I'm glad he didn't. I'm glad

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he is very secure. I'm glad
he stood strong in that. Like what,

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she's crazy. So we skip this
little part though, or we haven't

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addressed it yet, where Kat comes
while the mustache weird mustache hair twirling thing

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is happening. Kat comes over and
Jess is just a beach for no reason.

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Oh see, Oh I disagree.
Oh my god. I love what

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we have and we see it differently
because we can. We can, we

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can teach each other. Stephanie,
OK moment, okay, tell me what

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you're So. You thought she was
just being awful to Cat for no reason?

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Oh, because she was being heard
her typical. It wasn't having anything

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to do with Cat. She was
just like, hmm, I'm upset and

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I don't want to talk to anybody
right now. So she refuses to talk

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to Cat, and Cat I thought
was just being like okay, like you

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know, you don't want to talk. We haven't like talked all day,

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and she's like no, and then
she walks away, and basically Mercedes is

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like, oh, she's just she's
just been through a lot. No,

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she hasn't been through a lot.
Jess has been through nothing. She didn't

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want to be with Blake. She
broke up with Blake, Blake was sad,

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have a good day. Now she's
with Tanner. What she been through?

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Okay, I'm with you, but
here's my okay, And I will

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confess to you that I don't totally
remember because I don't care about these people.

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But in my memory, Jess was
one of the people in Kat's like

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line of awfulness, Like didn't she
yell at her once? Hasn't she been

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awful to her? And they probably
had some fight. But now Kat is

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missed, Like she went from being
like the most crazy, fucking lashy person

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ever like this chill like now I'm
just really happy in a relationship and wants

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to give you fucking advice. Like
one week ago you were out of your

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mind about all these guys, and
now you've kissed a guy like twice,

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and you're like, if you have
any questions about how to like really be

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in love love, which she's got. Chi, guys, I've written a

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book on relationships. Yes, while
I was here, I just put something

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together just because I've really learned a
lot in my experience. It's available on

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Amazon if you guys want to,
like, I don't know if you can

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do it from here, or if
you want to wait till you get back.

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Yeah, if you guys, just
and I will have like a Patreon

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to like. That's a companion piece
cast obviously companion pieces. It's really just

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about like how to change your attachment
style. So I'm secure now, and

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let me tell you. And so
she probably fucking doing that to everybody,

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including Jess. And she was probably
yelled at Jess once and they probably had

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some fight the day before that.
Editing left out because nothing else would make

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sense. Probably Jess is not just
upset. She's upset with cats specifically.

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It wasn't just like I don't want
to talk about my life right now.

407
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:29.839
It was like get away from me. You can't. That's what I got.

408
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.799
Yeah, I mean you could be
right. I just since I'm also

409
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.839
just do not like Jess, I
was just like, oh my god,

410
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:41.640
Jess and when Mercedes is just like
she's just been through so much over the

411
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.720
last few days, what what have
you been through? Also, you're on

412
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:52.240
vacation about bananas though they also had
not Johnny Bananas, who I love very

413
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:53.480
much, and I know you don't
know who Johnny Bananas is. I don't,

414
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.079
but that's we will get you there. They have a conversation about like

415
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:03.799
limp versus hard bananas, and I
feel that Mercedes is so much smarter than

416
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.640
Kat that she had to like fake
laugh, you know, you're with somebody

417
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:12.000
who's like just driving the thing.
I like them hard, and Mercedes is

418
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:17.119
like, ha ha, yeah,
that's weird, like I'm weird and green

419
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:22.200
and ripe, where they're not even
sweet yet that's gross. And they keep

420
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.960
like keep trying to and Cat keeps
trying to make the dig joke, and

421
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:29.640
then it's just they're not gonna be
friends, right. I love Mercedes.

422
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.519
That's through the filter though of loving
Mercedes and feeling like she's too good for

423
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.039
this beach. I like her too. I know you do, but there's

424
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:40.079
not a lot of people. But
it's slim pickens on who to root for.

425
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:42.839
So if I had to pick,
sure, yeah, yeah, yeah,

426
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:48.240
that's fair. So this is the
part. Then Tanner. Then Tanner

427
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:51.200
and Jess break up, which we
already talked about. Okay, I'm just

428
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:56.720
trying to go in order of my
notes. Then everybody is sad and hugging

429
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.920
each other, and Jess is the
So Jess goes to say goodbye and she's

430
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:07.480
reminds everybody, guys, I'm leaving
because it's just been a lot, and

431
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:12.880
everybody acts like she just got a
cancer diagnosis. They're crying about her and

432
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:17.559
like, oh my god, Jess, she fucked blake over and to me

433
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.839
is a bitch and everybody's hugging.
I'm like, is she the new is

434
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:23.160
she the girl version of Rodney?
Oh a little bit? Yeah. I

435
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:26.440
mean she's very young and beautiful and
she'll be just fine. And that's the

436
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:32.279
thing that's like just wasted. But
let's let's skip because we did all that

437
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.759
a little out of order. But
can we get to Kenny and Marie show

438
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.640
and let's see there was something else
you had in all that. But like

439
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:42.079
they show up and everyone again right
before that, though, I just there's

440
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:48.119
more of this. Then we really
full on get into Kylie and Avan and

441
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.640
she pulls them aside, and she's
like, I was really upset last night

442
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.640
because we're not on the same page
like visa VI engagement and like I want

443
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.640
to be engaged, Like why don't
you want to be engaged? And then

444
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:04.640
Avan says, so reasonably right,
but why isn't enough for you that I

445
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:08.200
tell you I don't want to leave
here without you? Like do you feel

446
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:11.119
like don't you feel like we're in
a good place? And she's like,

447
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.480
yeah, totally, but we need
to be engaged. So then he says

448
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.000
this is so he says, why
are you so focused on the engagement?

449
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.160
Why is it? Like if we're
not engaged, then like he doesn't want

450
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.519
to be with me, and she
says, well, obviously you don't want

451
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.160
to want an engagement, so whatever. So this is her style of being

452
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.880
like I don't care, I don't
care, I'm fine then fine, then

453
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:40.160
whatever it's but it's so obvious,
and then she says off camera like are

454
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.759
two camera right? But away from
him, she's like, I mean,

455
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:47.960
if you can't get engaged to me, like after like two weeks, like

456
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.000
then, how am I supposed to
believe that you'll ever be ready? Like

457
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:57.880
you're almost thirty. I was like, what right, So that's when that's

458
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:03.160
when he gets up set and he
says, so if if we he says

459
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.599
if, and then he says off
to the camera, if we got engaged

460
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:10.960
and it didn't work out, it
would kill me. And then he's getting

461
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:12.920
nowhere with her. So that's when
he goes, Okay, I'm going to

462
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:18.200
go to bed, which she's not
going to let him. Forget right.

463
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.000
He walks away. She's crying in
front of him, and he does not

464
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.119
comfort her, which I but he
tries. He moved well, I thought

465
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.240
he did. He kept saying I
feel like he kept giving her the words

466
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.880
that she wanted to hear. He's
like, I am really into you,

467
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:34.920
I'm falling for you, like I
want to be with you. I just

468
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.440
think it's too soon, and she
will not take anything less than okay,

469
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.000
I'll get engaged to you. You
know what I think could help her is

470
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:52.599
microdosing. Oh my gosh, can
we a little Las goes a long way?

471
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.400
It honestly does. Like that could
be a moment where perhaps if her

472
00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.680
mind is a spin in a little
microdose of limy Las, we love.

473
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:01.880
We've talked about this a lot.
You've heard about this a lot, but

474
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:06.519
you know, this is the thing
that people are doing when they want to

475
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.599
kind of calm anxiety or depression or
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476
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sort of help ourselves with, yes, or or make sleep better, or

477
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make sex better, or after you
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478
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needing to, like, you know, feel better. Yes, Like we

479
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get just the slightest amount of thchc. So what's different about this loomy microdose

480
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.279
is you get a little bit of
amount of thchc, but not enough to

481
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:35.279
make you high. So you're not
like, oh, I'm just completely baked

482
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.400
like Olivia seemed to be on that
episode. You have just enough to kind

483
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of, as you say, take
out the background noise. Yes, and

484
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485
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Okay, So Kyley is upset and she's

498
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:45.880
just like, you know what,
if he doesn't see it now, he's

499
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.759
never going to see it. Like, I don't know what more I could

500
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.880
do. I don't know who I
could be or what more I can do,

501
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.759
But you know what, I'm just
not going to push him. Girl,

502
00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.519
you're already Oh my god. I
was like that ship has set and

503
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:05.359
then hit an iceberg and sunk like
the Titanic. Yes, you couldn't be

504
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:08.840
pushing him anymore. So then Kylie's
walking down the beach. This is this

505
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.760
is okay. So because she's walking
down the beach by herself, because she's

506
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:20.079
the loneliest, unloved, saddest lady, and she's like last night was horrible,

507
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.199
like literally horrible, like the fact
that Avan is so quick to run

508
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.920
off when things get hard, Like
I just don't know what it's going to

509
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:31.679
take for him to realize that we're
ready for an engagement. Hello, Kenny

510
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:37.199
and Maury show up. Hello.
It was a perfect money and squiggy moment.

511
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:39.760
Yeah, this is like, Yeah, what other couple could come to

512
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:44.679
the beach right now tell us things? And they came. I could not.

513
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.199
I mean honestly, I actually did
remember them, but I like couldn't.

514
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:52.000
I could not have cared less.
And they're there to impart wisdom,

515
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:53.760
and I just literally wrote blah blah
blah. I fast forward it a little

516
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:58.280
bit. I couldn't handle it with
them. But then they announced the big

517
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:00.800
news, the big shocker, that
they're to get married, which can't be

518
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.039
their real wedding ceremony, Like it's
a little cute ceremony they're doing, but

519
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.119
surely they'd want their friends and family
there. Oh yeah they got married,

520
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:13.440
Yeah they got married somewhere else.
There was a whole wedding. Yeah,

521
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.519
but so why fucking lie about it. I hate that shit. And I

522
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.440
also always thought that Kenny looked a
little bit like a cuter version of Scott

523
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.760
Bayo and that just triggers him a
little bit. I know he's not Scott

524
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:29.800
Bao, so that's not fair.
And interestingly, like their story is kind

525
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:34.760
of weird too, because he was
like naked guy on the beach and yeah,

526
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.800
and she was into him, right, he's much older than she is.

527
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.440
He was into he was into her, and she was into him.

528
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:45.840
But then she decided she wasn't into
him anymore. So instead of just being

529
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:49.519
like, oh gosh, I've got
to like wait it out and be patient

530
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.880
with her, he went and had
sex with Demi remember that. He was

531
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.280
like that, and I'm going to
go to the boom boom room. Yes,

532
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.320
And then she got up a set
that he had sex with Demi and

533
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:02.599
was like, okay, wait,
now I'm into you again. And then

534
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:07.519
he made her work real hard to
get back in his good graces when it

535
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:12.480
was like he's the one who slept
with somebody. Yeah, that's a really

536
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.519
goodlee And she kept like apologizing for
like I'm sorry, I wasn't sure.

537
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.719
I'm sorry, I wasn't sure,
like I don't know. I never loved

538
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.760
that relationship, is my point.
Do they are they? So they just

539
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.360
got married, so they for some
reason I thought they had kids, but

540
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:30.760
I guess obviously not if they just
well maybe really not obviously not what is

541
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.719
this the Bible? Obviously they could
not have spawned children if they have not

542
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:37.559
been married. Yeah, no,
they don't have a they don't have a

543
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.039
kid yet. Then we go to
the wedding and I'm sure your first thought,

544
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:44.800
as was mine, was why is
Peter fucking there? Why's Peter?

545
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.760
Why Sam? Why are they there? And they're all like holding hands right

546
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.599
right? Well, because it was
supposed to put like love in everyone's faces

547
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.480
and help them see if they feel
like they could get married, and it

548
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:59.559
did. It triggered Kylie, all
of it. Yes, Kylie was totally

549
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.400
triggered. I like barely could sit
next to Evan because she was just wanting

550
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:08.199
to constantly go see see see they're
getting married after like three weeks and then

551
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.920
okay, so that's when Blake comes
back, so because he's going to be

552
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.119
the best man because of course,
right, and then she's like, oh

553
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.880
my god, I strongly feel that's
what they were trying to make us think

554
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.800
that, like, Blake's it,
that's the one. All this time they

555
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.320
were trying to throw us at anything
because they had nothing else. Yeah,

556
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:30.199
this episode is just Kylie bitching about
wanting to get engaged. So this was

557
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:37.360
to me so annoying. So Kylie
pulls Blake aside. M hmm. She's

558
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.199
like, I'm just so upset that
everything went to shit, and like,

559
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:45.559
I want your honest opinion. Okay, I want your honest opinion on whether

560
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.480
it's normal or not that he doesn't
want to be engaged in twelve days,

561
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:53.639
or if that's a red flag.
Okay. This was the perfect opportunity for

562
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:59.239
Blake to be like, no,
it's not normal to get even Blake who

563
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:02.880
was on Kate season and they got
engaged, they were at least six weeks.

564
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.079
Mm hmmmm hmm, it's been two
weeks. Wait, she broke up

565
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:10.400
with him, right, Katie broke
up with Blake. Yeah, because he

566
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:15.320
was hurt. He was like super
hurt about it. I mean, so

567
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.400
he says, yeah, I don't
you know, I don't totally buy what

568
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.639
he's selling, but you know,
but Blake does the worst thing. He

569
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.960
had no bro code at all,
and he's like, yeah, girl,

570
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.440
I think you should stick to your
guns. What he's like, girl,

571
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:36.599
let's get you a glow up.
He's like, let's do a makeup and

572
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.639
then like and then all only really
has to do if she he puts glasses

573
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:46.000
on her and takes them off and
there you go, you're beautiful. That's

574
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:50.599
damn because like the scene after,
I know, I don't want to skip

575
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:52.199
too far ahead, but that is
when they all do acid and have a

576
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.239
thing. Yes, yeah, a
rave. Yeah, that's kind of what

577
00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:00.400
it turned into, Like you're fine
whatever, Yeah, No, it's crazy

578
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:04.039
if he's not gonna commit to you
after two and a half weeks, Like

579
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.199
he's never going to commit to you, and so and Avan sits and talks

580
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:12.639
to Mari and Kenny and of course
they're going to be programmed to be like

581
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.719
you should just get engaged, you
should just go for it. If you

582
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.239
know she's the one, what stop? It is like a cult, isn't

583
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.559
it? Like if we are to
believe that they believe what they're saying they

584
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.559
believe. I'm not sure I agree
that they even believe it, but like

585
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:30.360
some of them do, and it
is yeah, they're they're programmed, yes,

586
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.760
And I felt like I felt truly
like Avan was trying to get away

587
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:40.440
from a cult. Because there's that
scene he goes He's like frustrated and says

588
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.960
to camera, all anyone is focused
on is an engagement. He's like,

589
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:51.679
it's ridiculous, and I was like, it is ridiculous, run Avan.

590
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.280
I know you might disagree here,
and I am actually genuinely excited for Joey's

591
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:59.400
season, and I've heard some good
shits coming, but I am excited to

592
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.159
one day as the you know,
like if he continues and is single and

593
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:06.360
wants to go on the show,
Like, I wouldn't mind seeing him on.

594
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:13.800
He's gorgeous, he seems smart,
he seems normal. Yeah, well

595
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:15.880
I would like to see that.
I'm just throwing it out there. Okay.

596
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:19.639
Then at some point Peter says to
someone but he's like, should I

597
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.840
have Mary Sam? And I'm like, no, you haven't even kids?

598
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:27.599
Yes? Did they ever make out
her? Again? Is that bad?

599
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:31.760
Thinks? So we've never seen it, right, Okay? So then we

600
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:37.719
get to this like the Acid party, and I did write down that Michael

601
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:43.320
Yacht Captain is super cute, but
then it's not happening. They're not happening.

602
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.719
No, she's super high. I
just wrote it looks like they're all

603
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:54.280
on math, I wrote. Also, after the Blake and Kylie conversation,

604
00:40:54.559 --> 00:41:00.519
she pulls Avan aside again because she's
gonna tell him she and he's going to

605
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:04.880
stick to her guns and he has
to propose or else, and he tells

606
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.400
her, I never want you to
be upset because of something that I did,

607
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:14.840
and talking to Kenny and Maury made
me realize my feelings for you are

608
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:16.840
so so strong, and I'm falling
in love with you and I can't picture

609
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:21.599
leaving here without you. But I
just need a little bit of time outside

610
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.840
of Paradise before an engagement. And
she doesn't hear anything. She's like,

611
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:30.920
okay, okay, like the words. I like your words, but like

612
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:36.320
we need to be engaged, that's
it. She's like, an engagement will

613
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.079
solidify so many things, and without
it, I'm sorry, I have doubts.

614
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:44.519
So then Avan is understandably getting frustrated, and he's like, but why

615
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.960
do you have to have an engagement
to move forward? And she storms off,

616
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.360
and now she has to be comforted
by everybody as if they broke up

617
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.440
right again, right again, And
this is where did, I wrote,

618
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.679
I can't take any more of this. I can't. She's not well,

619
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.119
So okay, can we just talk
about because this is very important to me?

620
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.079
This is this stood out to me
more than anything the whole episode.

621
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:09.519
When Wells is giving some kind of
speech, oh he's still there by the

622
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:14.360
way, and says, I guess
Blake is wearing very short shorts because obviously,

623
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:16.639
and well says, don't let the
mouse out of the house. And

624
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:21.039
Blake says, it's not a mouse, it's a rat, And I just

625
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.280
wrote, what, First of all, don't you mean snake? Don't you

626
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:29.280
mean snake? Why? A rat
is just only slightly bigger than a mouse?

627
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.000
Like why would that be? Like, Okay, I guess what I'm

628
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:37.280
saying is Blake is not going to
join our improv group. Don't let the

629
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:38.960
mouse out of the house. He's
saying, don't let your dick fall out

630
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.440
of your short shorts, right,
Like, not a mouse, it's a

631
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:47.480
rat? What what? Yeah,
I'm with you. Okay, then that's

632
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.440
okay. Then so we have So
Mercedes goes to talk to Jordan and she's

633
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:58.119
like, hey, just FYI,
we don't have a spark, so right,

634
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.760
and Jordan's like, okay, cool, cool, Oh yeah, I

635
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.000
have that way down because I'm still
talking about like I'm still at the party.

636
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:06.039
I just want to cover a couple
of things before we get to the

637
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.199
Mercedes things. Okay, I started
just next bunch of stuff. I mean,

638
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:13.239
there's tarot card readers, They're they're
all making out. Everybody's like you

639
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.440
said, uh, Kylie Pools Eva, you know, I mean, it's

640
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:20.719
all just so boring at that point. Yeah, I agree. So yeah,

641
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.639
that was a little bit before and
they're all just like this nonsense.

642
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:27.920
But I at that moment, I
did know that there's no way that Michael

643
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:32.639
Yacht cap He's like, what,
no, Like this isn't happening, right,

644
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:37.079
I'm trying to think if I'm trying
to see if I'm at that part

645
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:38.440
yet. Okay, but then let's
skip to the next day because that's just

646
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:42.679
the party. So the next day
is when Mercedes and Jordan like it's time

647
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:47.360
to have a conversation, right,
leave obviously because no, and then yacht

648
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.960
Captain has to pretend like you care
they're they're leave and he's like no,

649
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:58.119
no, no, no, no. That was really funny because he doesn't

650
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.920
even know who they are. He's
new to the Yeah, he's like,

651
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:06.760
oh god, no note and Jordan
just got there like okay, whatever,

652
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:12.039
now George, you have to leave. This is this is where Jesse's like,

653
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.760
okay, guys, you guys are
gonna have to have some hard conversations

654
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:20.840
and if you're not one hundred percent
committed to getting engaged and going to in

655
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.199
the fantasy suite, yeah, if
not asor La Vista baby, And I

656
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:29.400
couldn't help but think like, Okay, this is bad production because let the

657
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:31.760
people go have section in the fantasy
suite and figure out if they want to

658
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:37.480
get engaged, and then surprise us
at the end with whether or not they

659
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.320
get engaged, which is how they
used to do it. What is the

660
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:43.119
point of being like, go have
a conversation and if you if you're not

661
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:47.000
going to get engaged, then leave. Fact the surprise fun fact, Boom

662
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:51.719
Boom room still exists. I have
that confirmed. It still exists. So

663
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:53.800
whether or not they've already hooked up, like, it's not it's not the

664
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:58.599
same as the regular Bachelor because it's
not like they're building up to whatever.

665
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:02.199
This fantasy suite. They can have
sex whenever they want, so, you

666
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:06.639
know, that's just the fantasy suite
is I guess when they totally turn off

667
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.400
the cameras okay, the night Okay, I guess the boomer rum. I

668
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.719
don't think they used it a lot. I think they just didn't use it.

669
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:15.440
Okay, as kids today, they
don't like to have the sex.

670
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:22.440
Just kidding. I'm sure they have
sex. So that that's like, yeah,

671
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:23.760
it's it's a fit. Do you
see? What I'm saying is like,

672
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:29.400
why why not say, hey,
if you would like to continue to

673
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:34.280
explore your relationship, go have some
off camera time. Then we don't know

674
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.360
what conclusion they came to. We
can kind of see if they're into each

675
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.119
other. And then when there's the
at the end when they all come to

676
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:44.440
the beach and are going to propose, some of them won't make it,

677
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.960
some of them will have gone home
and give us one couple at least.

678
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.159
That goes like, like, you
know, you could have done that with

679
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:52.519
Kylie and Avan. They could have
gone to the fantasy suite, right m

680
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.760
hm, instead of being like,
if you're not going to get engaged,

681
00:45:55.840 --> 00:46:00.519
you can't go to the fantasy suite. And that puts even in a corner

682
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.360
of having to be like, I
know I'm not going to get engaged,

683
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:07.079
so we have to make a decision. Instead of that, how about some

684
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:10.119
suspense. Let them go to the
fantasy suite and have their time, and

685
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:13.960
they wouldn't go go to the beach
and have him say like, hey,

686
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.079
I really am in love with you, but I don't want to get married.

687
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:20.960
Yeah, she wouldn't do it,
I assume, but it was just

688
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.159
so frustrating. I wrote the same
thing, like she's being absurd. He's

689
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:27.000
like trust me, you have to
trust me. Oh my god, this

690
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:29.280
is crazy. And then all of
a sudden, I'm just like, what

691
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.000
is the big deal here? Which
is what you've been saying? Right,

692
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:32.960
all of a sudden, they're just
in the limo. It's like okay,

693
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.880
bye, right, I get they
leave together quote unquote, but like,

694
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:42.000
okay, who gives a shit?
And then like who get They just like

695
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.679
brush it off like they made us
deal with them for so many episodes and

696
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:50.079
then they're just like, yeah,
unless I just was falling asleep and like

697
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.760
miss some big No, it was
no. She was the whole time going

698
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.880
he has to either propose to me
or nothing. And then he's like,

699
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:59.119
well, I'm not going to propose
to you, So are you going to

700
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.559
leave? Is that it? And
she's like no, oh, I want

701
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:06.599
to be with you and he's like, okay, then let's go, and

702
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.360
then they just okay. Well,
so now we're in our last hour,

703
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:12.239
a three hour episode. We're gonna
keep going on this episode, right,

704
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:17.400
We're okay? So Sam and Peter
are still there, so we're back to

705
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:23.519
paradise, right like whatever, they're
still there, which just makes no sense.

706
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.000
But now, like the fantasy suitees, like you said, they're on

707
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:31.039
the table, is this one?
Yes? So he pulls Sam aside.

708
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.920
He wants to have finally one big
conversation with her, and he's like,

709
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:39.320
your vibrations and your aura are lit, bro, you're gonna say are libro?

710
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:44.000
But he might have? And she's
like, thank you, absolutely not.

711
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:49.159
I mean, what does he think
is gonna happen? I guess he

712
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.719
just wanted to have sex with her, which is fair, but why not

713
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:52.639
just go ahead? If they were
gonna have sex, they would have done

714
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.719
it in the boom boom room.
Just do it right, right, We're

715
00:47:55.719 --> 00:48:00.079
not gonna have sex because they've never
even made out. They're totally buddies,

716
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.559
which I thought. She made clear
from the beginning unless we miss something,

717
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.400
no, I agree with you.
But also her response to him is like,

718
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:12.000
yeah, I was really kind of
looking for more of an intense,

719
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.920
like NonStop, like amazing love.
She was trying to do the Carrie Bradshaw

720
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:20.480
speech when she got totally wrong,
you know, she says, I was

721
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:24.679
like, I want a where she
holds her hands over her chest, but

722
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:29.639
she gets all the words wrong and
it's so annoying and just go leave.

723
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.400
Yeah, so we're supposed to feel
sad or something about them, and I

724
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.039
don't, of course not, so
I like, I will give a Levia

725
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.000
this where she pulls cap. She
knows he's going to say. She's not

726
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:44.840
that into it. She's not crazy, she knows it, but she wants

727
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.159
to bang him. She's kind of
saying, like, why don't we just

728
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:50.320
go to the fantasy suite. Bro. I agree, he's just not into

729
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:53.599
her at all, which you called
a while ago. You totally called that.

730
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:55.679
I didn't see it. I was
like I think that they have something

731
00:48:55.679 --> 00:49:00.760
and you're like, ahuh yeah no. So yeah, he was like,

732
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:06.280
I'm sorry, absolutely not with you. But then he says, hey,

733
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.800
just pissed me off because he's like, you know, uh, I don't

734
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:12.079
want to lead you on. Well
you kind of did lead her on.

735
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:14.800
You've definitely made out with her and
gone on these dates. Whether you kind

736
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.119
of let her we don't know.
I don't know about that though, because

737
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:21.840
didn't they have like did they have? They have one date? So of

738
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:24.159
a lot of these people, so
have tons of these people have gone on

739
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:29.239
like one date. I really truly
think he's only been there like two days.

740
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:35.039
I do. I think the time
is becomes meaningless to these editors,

741
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.719
and there's no passage of time that
we can actually because he keeps saying I'm

742
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:45.320
brand new. So it's possible that
they had a date and she's still like

743
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.719
and then they've maybe made out like
once or twice, and she lays with

744
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.719
him on the beach a few times, and then they go to the wedding

745
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.000
like the next day. It's possible
it's been like a couple of days.

746
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:59.039
And he's like, yeah, no, you're right, the timeline is really

747
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:00.880
And speaking of Edie, when she's
like and she's cool about it, he's

748
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:04.440
like he's kind of being a little
rude. He's like, anything you want

749
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.559
to say, Like, I don't
know how long we've sat there? But

750
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:07.440
that was a little rude, and
she's like, no, I'm good.

751
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.119
I don't want to keep sitting here
though, but I wish you well she

752
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.679
handles it well. I like her
so well. I like her too.

753
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:17.199
But she leaves and then they don't
even show him leaving, but he's gone,

754
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:21.880
Like you can't even just put him
in a limo no seconds. It's

755
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:25.679
insane. This editing, it makes
no sense. So now there's two couples

756
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:30.079
left and they're going to have an
orgy. For the first time in Bachelor

757
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:32.559
Nation history, they're going to have
an orgy. We're all for let's see

758
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:36.639
how yes, let's see how we
do together as a foursome. Here's what

759
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:40.440
I wrote now, I'm incredibly bored. Yes, everyone goes on final dates,

760
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:49.159
fantasy suites, snorem, Aaron and
Eliza wake up and equissance and Aaron's

761
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.920
like, I'm more in love with
than ever and he's going to propose,

762
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:57.400
and I was like, I don't
know, yeah, I'm sorry, he's

763
00:50:57.480 --> 00:50:59.679
yes, they're I just very I'm
so bored by them. I always want

764
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.360
to skip through it because like,
yeah, they love each other, gross

765
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:07.880
right, but also zero mystery he's
like, I'm going to propose, and

766
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:13.159
she's like yeah, and I'm gonna
accept your proposal. Wouldn't that be funny

767
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.440
if right after she's like, I'll
be right back hold on. When he's

768
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:17.480
like, I'm gonna propose to you. I've never been so in love,

769
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:21.480
and she's like, hold on one
second, and she runs off to try

770
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:24.599
to get justin again. They just
show her in Baltimore. They follow her

771
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:28.960
like to her house, and they
do it in a funny way of like

772
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:31.360
how you do it would do a
sketch where it's like and then the plane

773
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:34.880
is up in the air and it's
not even a real plane. They just

774
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:39.079
show like you know, it's just
traveling travel travel travel, Yes, just

775
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:44.800
like showing in LA to New York, LA or whatever to Baltimore and then

776
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:52.000
yeah, it's like he's even then
he's like sleep again. Like he's like,

777
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:58.039
it's been like two years, but
hi, it's not lit from the

778
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.800
inside, so it's real dark when
he opens. He's hired, he shirtless,

779
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.960
it's like two in the afternoon,
but he doesn't have anything to get

780
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:07.480
up for it. Yes, she's
like, I just want to make sure

781
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:13.840
one hundred you're not and then it
shows the plane flying back. No,

782
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.480
its no, it shows her going
to Rodney's house right after, and she's

783
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:21.440
like, hey, okay, I
know this is He's like, did you

784
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:25.239
just justin just called and said you
were the what? Also, no,

785
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:29.119
I wasn't sure. You took a
selfie with Justin and you posted it on

786
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:31.519
Insta, which I don't think you
got. He didn't say okay to that

787
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:37.920
because he's pretty pissed and he's suing
you. But anyway, yeah, yeah,

788
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.880
so all right, they're all happy. But that's when Jared pops in,

789
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:44.880
I just want to say your bit
that we talked about before. That's

790
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.440
when that it goes to commercial and
he's like, will they be together?

791
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:52.920
This just in Bachelor report? Is
that? Was that an actual commercial or

792
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:57.119
were they paying for? Like?
What was that? You don't know?

793
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:01.920
I don't know, But now's the
time they skipped right to the actual proposal,

794
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:06.360
right, yes, yes, And
I talked to your mom and she's

795
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:09.840
like for fifteen minutes and then he's
like, so now I know forever and

796
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:14.119
gets on Wendy and she says yes, yes, and then she has the

797
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:16.719
nerve to be like, I honestly
didn't know what I was going to say

798
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:22.159
until right the second bitch, Yes
you did. So that's not a good

799
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.119
sign. That's not going to bring
you a happiness forever. I don't think

800
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:29.920
well, and it doesn't right,
Okay, I don't know here, I'll

801
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:31.519
look that up before so for we
leave, we'll look at everybody. So

802
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:37.320
Cat and John Henry wake up and
they're cute, and they're cute. Then

803
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:44.400
John Henry gives us a little fake
out that like he's so aggressively dumb.

804
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:47.400
I'm sorry, but he is not
smart, and he's like agreed. My

805
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:52.760
gut says, don't get engaged because
it's too soon. My heart says,

806
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:55.960
get engaged. That was like our
joke last week. My kidney says I

807
00:53:55.960 --> 00:54:00.280
should kill you, but my kidney
says crazy, So I'm not going to

808
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:07.760
kill you. Yes, oh my
god. Okay. So then so then

809
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:12.519
it's yeah, false alarm. He
is. He's not going to listen to

810
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:16.199
his kidney. He's going to go
with something his heart or his gut whatever.

811
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:22.760
And he proposes and she says yes, and and then uh it shows

812
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:27.360
that. Then then then we start
getting updates on the Chiron. Mm hmmm.

813
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:30.000
So we start to have to go
over all these couples again, which

814
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:34.840
we just fucking saw them in this
same episode. It was three hours.

815
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:39.280
I didn't forget about Jess, Like
it was ridiculous to go back over all

816
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:43.480
these couples. But we do find
out that Kylie and Avan are still together.

817
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:45.639
They're still together. But also the
Rachel thing. When it shows Rachel,

818
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:50.199
it's a very unflattering freeze frame of
Rachel. Yes, where when she

819
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.039
first gets down to the thing and
she's just not like playing along with Jesse

820
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:57.079
and then it just her Chiron is
like she doesn't want to be part of

821
00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:00.320
this montage because they probably asked them. They go like, yeah, anything

822
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:01.480
you want to say or is this
okay for us to say? And she's

823
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:06.000
like no comment. Yes, you
know she was in total taught about it.

824
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:08.079
She hadn't even because there's no other
reason they would have done her dirty

825
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:12.039
like that, right, I agree, it's got to give, okay.

826
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.760
I know, listen, I am
Tino is a bigger person than we are.

827
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:19.480
Tino's a kind person. He does
not speak ill of Rachel. He

828
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:22.519
really has been good about that on
our show a couple times, and he

829
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:24.239
doesn't do it. But let me
speak for him. I'm not speaking for

830
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:28.639
him, but if I were him, that would be a moment of like

831
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:32.519
thank you, yes, thank you. And it's not him speaking no,

832
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.039
but if we were him, we'd
be like, thank you for seeing what

833
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.639
I've seen, thank you for Yeah
the filter would like, thank you editors

834
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:44.360
for seeing it because something happened there
and by the way, I just looked

835
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:47.239
it up. You're right. Aaron
and Eliza have not yet confirmed if they're

836
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:51.840
still together following their engagement. However, the montage at the end of the

837
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.840
finale states that they hit roadblocks and
are working to improve their relationship. So,

838
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:00.679
yeah, they're not together, No, just say they would have just

839
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:05.800
said they're still together. If they
were having private issues but didn't break up,

840
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:07.079
they would have been like, yeah, we're still together. Why they

841
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.960
don't want to say it now?
They want to They want to ride the

842
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:14.400
the you know, right, So
I think it's like they can't. They

843
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.960
couldn't get away with that because people
would probably know, like, no,

844
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:21.920
they're not together. Yeah, you're
right about that. But I will say

845
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.000
that some of the updates made me
cry. Nothing in particular, but like

846
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:29.159
the fact that so many people are
together and there's like Bachelor babies. Oh

847
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:31.760
right, oh right, right right, I mean it kind of works.

848
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:36.800
I mean it's really it's no different
or I mean it's definitely better than meeting

849
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:40.599
on fucking bumble, you know why
not. Yeah, people definitely have have

850
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:47.840
made it. I love Kevin and
and Astrid. I didn't remember Astrod for

851
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:51.800
like, the name sounds familiar,
but for some reason I didn't totally remember

852
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:55.840
that. Yeah, they they got
together on Paradise and it was really sweet,

853
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:00.599
like she liked he got scared and
didn't wasn't didn't want to commit and

854
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:07.199
left and then they got back to
get they got together afterward. Well that's

855
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:08.400
sweet. Are they one? Did
she have the baby? Yeah? I

856
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:12.000
guess there's a couple of babies.
They have their second they're having their second

857
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:17.199
one. But also surprising and cute
was that Brydon is now dating Christina Mandrel.

858
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:22.519
Oh and oh yeah I could.
Okay, I'm so stupid because I

859
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.039
saw that, but then I couldn't
remember who Christina was. She's the farm.

860
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.719
Yes, that's who he's going to
date. Though that will last four

861
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:34.679
days. You think he's going to
like be the dad to her child?

862
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.039
I don't know, but she's definitely
they had a thing of them, like

863
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:40.119
out on a boat and she had
her kid with her. I mean,

864
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:44.199
I like that, but I also
am like, why why is your kid

865
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:50.079
meeting Gravesores? Yeah, yeah,
I don't know about how I felt about

866
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:52.039
that, but that was shocking.
I totally forgot about that. Then they

867
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:55.079
show us the can we talk about
the Joey's sneak peek before we go?

868
00:57:55.239 --> 00:58:00.280
Sure, Okay, Joey's giving me
like young Cage vibes. Did you get

869
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:05.159
that at all? There's something about
some of the holes that I'm getting interesting

870
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:08.800
because I find Nick Cage's look to
be more harsh, and I find Joey

871
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:14.400
to be very like more very boyish. He's the softer version Nick Cage now

872
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.079
not but like back in the day. Like there's something about his nose and

873
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:21.440
his eyes, the way they come
together. That's that was the vibe I

874
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:22.920
get. But the end, so
we don't know what's going to happen,

875
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:27.159
but they're saying it's the most shocking
ending ever of all time. Obviously,

876
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:30.920
well they're saying they're saying it's a
different ending than we've ever seen, Like

877
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:35.760
this has not happened before one shows
up. It looks like no one shows

878
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:39.119
up for the end. The rose
is just sitting there. So he sends

879
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:43.960
somebody else off, or he sends
them off earlier, and it looks like

880
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:49.480
just and then the person he ends
up he wants doesn't show or she what

881
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:53.000
if she hurled herself into the ocean. What if Joe? What if Uncle

882
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:57.920
Joe came after Oh, because he's
like, I don't want these two together.

883
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:00.559
What if Uncle Joe stole her?
And like, they get to the

884
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:04.840
end and then you find out that
like, no, she's actually is engaged,

885
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:07.719
but it's too Uncle Joe the wrong
Joey the wrong and yeah, the

886
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:14.480
wrong Joey. I don't maybe no, but I really like Joey. So

887
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:17.320
I'm rooting for him to be in
love. And I'm kind of bummed if

888
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:22.039
if it's going to have like a
sad ending, it'll never be that sad

889
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:25.119
of an ending. He's fine,
he's Joey. He's our little cutie little

890
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:30.320
Joey. Yeah, he's so cute, And I mean, I don't want

891
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:34.320
to be like the person that's making
like but the fact that his dad is

892
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:38.000
gay and he's like so sweet about
it, and it's just like making it

893
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:44.159
like normalizing mm hmmmm. I like
that about him too, not being a

894
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:49.000
like weirdly conservative and you know that
he's like, yeah, look, his

895
00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:51.920
whole thing is like love is love, and I love that for him and

896
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.559
I love that for us as opposed
to Dean. Remember Dean with his dad,

897
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:58.400
Like, yes, like there was
the weird I don't know what the

898
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:00.400
deal was there. I don't remember
bactly what went down, but all I

899
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:05.800
know is he ended up in a
van. Yes, yes, I wonder

900
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:07.519
where Dean is now. Did he
end up with the person he was with?

901
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:13.039
Yeah, they're married. They're Mary
really and they stayed together. Well,

902
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:15.159
they just recently got married, but
they were. She was pushing for

903
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:20.800
a proposal for a while and he
was not ready and then he finally proposed,

904
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:22.280
and now they're I think they're married. Yeah. Who did he marry?

905
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:27.400
Do you remember Caitlin? Remember?
Right? Yeah? Heather? Heather

906
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:32.679
Brown's like nemesis. They were both
pageant girls and they didn't like each other

907
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:37.199
from before. I'm shocked that I
remember all. Kayl can Kayln, Kaylen?

908
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.199
Yeah, let me see if they're
still together. It looks like they

909
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:44.920
have officially, Yeah, you're not
four years of dating, that's all he

910
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:50.000
left his hair long from his van
days. Hm, how about that?

911
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:53.360
Okay, all right, well,
gosh we did another season. Uh,

912
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:57.880
stay with us, right, yeah, well we're gonna do you know we

913
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:01.800
could do for Patreon. We could
do a little update. We could go

914
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:07.960
through all the successful couples and remind
ourselves to the successful couples and maybe some

915
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:10.559
unsuccessful couples. And I'd like to
just do a quick thing on Patreon and

916
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:15.440
talk about my thoughts on charity,
not winning Dancing with the Stars. Oh

917
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:20.519
very much, want to talk about
that. Okay, missed off? Okay,

918
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:22.679
okay, all right, all right, so join us. Also,

919
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:30.480
we have some shouts for you,
and let me get them up. Okay,

920
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:36.599
let's thank our listeners, our Patreon
listeners, Don Lee mm hmm,

921
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:44.840
Cassie Wadsworth, Sarah Baker, Jenny
Harden, Christine Daily, Jane McMurray and

922
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:49.320
yarbro We see you, We love
you, Shelly Clavier and Erry Shannon and

923
01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:54.760
Lauren Barnes, Tama Adams see you, and Jennifer Falls, Jerry Singer,

924
01:01:55.119 --> 01:02:04.800
Megan Mdoor and our friend yep.
Also, Sean m wants us to know

925
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:09.880
about Rotary dot Org. It's not
just for like old stuffy businessmen sitting around

926
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:14.400
thinking about how to oppress women.
It's not like that anymore, though them

927
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:16.320
too. They can go if they
want, I take up for them,

928
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:21.239
let them go somewhere. It's really
cool and it's fun, and it's about

929
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:23.679
community building and figuring out how to
give back. So you want to give

930
01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:28.760
back, right, so go to
rotary dot org r o t ar y

931
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:32.159
dot org. Also Jamie Val,
she's got a company. It's called Spitfire

932
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:36.960
Social. She is going to help
you get your business. Do you want

933
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:40.760
to elevate your business or not?
Come on, do you want to do

934
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:46.440
why do you want this lame business? Make it better? Do you care

935
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:52.119
about doing well or about money?
Then go to Spitfire Social and see how

936
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.639
Jamie Val can help you. Also, do you want a car? Do

937
01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:59.880
you want to pay over pay for
it? No, that's why you need

938
01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:04.039
to get Adam Lerner to help you
get a car. Let him help you.

939
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.199
His phone numbers three one zero nine
nine eight seven zero four to eight.

940
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:10.719
His website is Adam's Got a Car. He's a car broker. It

941
01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:15.159
doesn't cost you anything unless you live
outside of California, then there's a fee.

942
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:20.519
But he will save you so much
money that it will not matter in

943
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:22.159
the air I do the last one. Are you some kind of jerk that

944
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.599
doesn't want totes? Are you some
kind of asshole that doesn't like journals or

945
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:30.199
travel mugs or handtels with original artwork
printed on them? Because I'm not.

946
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:35.880
No, Do you hate the art? Yes? And actually for real,

947
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:40.159
Nancy Buckingham, who's also a friend
of the show, has incredible original artwork

948
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:44.320
that she has printed on these really
cool things that I just mentioned, like

949
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:46.639
these tote bags and travel mugs and
handtaels, which all, by the way,

950
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:51.679
make fabulous gifts. And now is
the time to get your last minute

951
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:54.480
gifts in for the holiday season.
This is it. You need to check

952
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:59.320
her out. She has an Etsy
store. You can find her at etsy

953
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:05.000
dot com. Backslash shop slash n
Buckingham Designs. Let me spell that it's

954
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:13.559
shop slash n b U c K
E n H A M D E S

955
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:17.280
I G N S. That's long, but we'll put that up anyway too.

956
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:20.920
If anyone has questions, d M
S and we'll give you the answers.

957
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:25.360
But these are our friends and you
need to support them. Thank you,

958
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:29.559
all right? We will continue to
have shows every week. We're we're

959
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:32.280
just narrowing down what we're going to
do, and we also are going to

960
01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:38.559
bring back Thursday episodes and we'll have
something really cool and magical for our patreons

961
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:42.119
and just one of the one of
and Joey's. But one of the things

962
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:44.119
that we're doing, we don't know
exactly where it's going to be. And

963
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:46.679
I forced Stephanie to do this,
but she's in. She's one hundred percent

964
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:50.360
in. We're going to talk colts. I'm obsessed with colts. So we're

965
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:53.400
not sure where we're going to put
it, but we're going to cover a

966
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:56.920
lot of different cults, like in
Ways there and show about the cults.

967
01:04:56.960 --> 01:05:01.159
We're going to cover the Twin Flames
m hmm, and Mother God, which

968
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:04.599
by the way, I have joined, so I have firsthand experience as a

969
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:08.960
member of Mother God cult. And
I'm just kidding. I haven't joined it

970
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:13.320
yet, but I will. Okay, you guys, thank you for a

971
01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:16.719
great season. Love you guys.
You mean it. Bye bye.