1 00:00:44,799 --> 00:00:47,759 Hello, everybody, Welcome, here we go. It is that time again, 2 00:00:48,039 --> 00:00:53,479 Matt Connerton unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n 3 00:00:53,759 --> 00:00:58,920 H five point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. And it 4 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:03,079 is a glorious day, although it's supposed to get actually cold later, believe 5 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:06,799 it or not. If I heard that correctly, and I'm going to double 6 00:01:06,879 --> 00:01:10,079 check the weather. We don't usually do a weather report on the show, 7 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:15,519 but my goodness of the temperature is going to drop. We'll come back to 8 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:19,000 that. But yes, we are of course from the studios of WMH ninety 9 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,120 five point three also Comcast ninety seven if you happen to be in Manchester, 10 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,400 New Hampshire. And hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and 11 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:29,719 around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for 12 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,799 all your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, 13 00:01:33,879 --> 00:01:38,599 etc. Etc. Today is Tuesday, August one, two thousand twenty 14 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,879 three, So welcome everybody. We have an exciting show today. We actually 15 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:49,159 have two, not one, but two musical guests, very excited. One 16 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:52,319 of them you just heard one of their songs that we opened the show with 17 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,760 Blue Eyes is the name of the song. The band is called from Starlight. 18 00:01:57,359 --> 00:02:01,480 They're going to be skyping in at four thirty today because they are from 19 00:02:01,519 --> 00:02:05,480 Albany, New York. But they've got a big show. They're gonna be 20 00:02:05,519 --> 00:02:08,759 in the area. They've got a big show tomorrow night at in Allston, 21 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:14,319 mass which is just an hour south of here, so they wanted to come 22 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:16,560 on today and talk about that, pump up the show and uh, we'll 23 00:02:16,599 --> 00:02:20,120 get to know those guys a little bit. So that will be coming up 24 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,560 at four thirty and then in the five o'clock hour we will be joined via 25 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:29,199 Skype. We have a guest from the UK, Jake Dollery, and he's 26 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,280 um. I really like his music a lot. I said in a social 27 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,879 media post earlier about today's show. These UK artists, I'm just fascinated by 28 00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:39,960 by their their music. He's got a really, really cool sound and he's 29 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:45,960 he's also a fellow broadcaster. It turns out I did some research, so 30 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,159 we've got plenty to talk about with Jake. So he'll be joining us at 31 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,240 five pm in the second hour. Numerow Doose of Matt Connerton, Unleashton we'll 32 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:59,240 see what kind of trouble we can get into both before and after our musical 33 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,800 guests. Although Jake and I are probably going to be talking for a long 34 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,280 time, I bet, because like I said, I think we have a 35 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:08,439 lot to discuss, so which is nice. So again, big big show, 36 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,199 big show ahead of us. But if you'd like to get in early 37 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,360 on the action, you can. The studio line is open six two five 38 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:21,280 zero six zoo seven six zo three two five zero six zero seven. You 39 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:24,400 can also text me at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. 40 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,479 I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at 41 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:32,360 Matt Connerton dot com. And of course you can interact Undo Pine in the 42 00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:36,840 Facebook live chat and we will say hello everybody in there in just a moment. 43 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,400 But the best thing to do so that we can hear and enjoy your 44 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:44,319 dulcet tones is to give us a call at six three two five zero six 45 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,000 zero seven six zo three two five o six zero seven. By the way, 46 00:03:47,039 --> 00:03:51,080 I'm looking at the weather now. Again, we don't usually do weather, 47 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:54,800 traffic, sports, any of that on this program, but because you 48 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,240 know, we have people listening online from other places, who aren't necessarily concerned 49 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,800 with these sports, weather and traffic in Manchester, New Hampshire. However, 50 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:08,919 I will say this tonight, so this is revised from what I saw earlier. 51 00:04:09,039 --> 00:04:12,800 I'm looking at the weather right now and tonight it's supposed to get down 52 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,199 to fifty one degrees Now. That is chilly compared to what we're used to. 53 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,399 Nice to have a break from the heat and all. But earlier, 54 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,600 the report that I heard earlier said it was going to be down in the 55 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:24,079 forties tonight. It was actually gonna get cold, and I was like, 56 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:29,319 oh no, because here's the thing with that. So summer is and has 57 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,480 always been my favorite time of year and I want to hold on to it 58 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:34,639 for as long as we can, right, And don't get me wrong, 59 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:40,720 I understand this summer has been very hot. So we're having beautiful weather these 60 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,000 last few days, and it looks like it's going to continue in that vein. 61 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:46,279 I don't see another heat wave on the immediate horizon, so that's good. 62 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:49,120 It's nice to have a break from the heat. I understand everyone needs 63 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,040 that. But I do love summer and it is my favorite time of year, 64 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,800 and I always say to see it slip away, and usually in late 65 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,480 August, sometimes even earlier, sometimes middle of August, but you know, 66 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:10,800 usually it's more like late August. One of these signs of summer slipping away, 67 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,399 and I get a little melancholy about it, is when you have those 68 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:21,160 enormous swings in temperature where in the daytime it'll be your standard hot summer day, 69 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:27,360 but then at night the temp just plummets, like thirty to forty degrees, 70 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,199 you know, instead of you know, just cooling off but still saying 71 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:34,199 reasonable staying reasonably warm, it just drops. It gets actually cold out. 72 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:40,279 And that's usually, like I said, usually late August, last week of 73 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,600 August, sometimes the middle of August that starts to show up where you have 74 00:05:43,639 --> 00:05:46,759 those big swings in temperature that you don't have in say July, where it's 75 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,600 just hot, and then at night it cools off, but it's still hot, 76 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,240 and yeah, it's more comfortable in some ways, better sleeping, whether 77 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,439 I suppose when it cools off at night. But I always hate to see 78 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:05,959 it because that a sign. It's like night Moves by Bob Seeger when he 79 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,680 says something about autumn closing in. I don't know, I don't even like 80 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,959 the song. I don't know why I'm thinking about it anyway. The point 81 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:15,639 is I don't like when it gets cold at night in summer, because to 82 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,000 me, that means summer is over. Now this is it's only August first, 83 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,079 and it's not gonna get as cold tonight as I thought. But it's 84 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:26,040 still a low of fifty one degrees. I mean, that's got me a 85 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,199 little worried. It looks like tonight though, looking at the ten day forecast, 86 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,120 tonight's the lowest it's going to get Tomorrow and night A well, tomorrow 87 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,519 and night a low of fifty three. That's still pretty low high of seventy 88 00:06:38,519 --> 00:06:41,319 eight. You know, I just don't want to see I don't want to 89 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:44,839 see it suddenly forty degrees at midnight, because then, you know, yeah, 90 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,439 summer's over. We're still gonna have some hot days, but it's cold 91 00:06:48,439 --> 00:06:51,680 at night. Summer's over. I hate to see it. I'm not a 92 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:56,079 big fall guy. Yeah. Everyone always says, oh, but the leaves, 93 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,439 the leaves, the foliage. Yeah, I grew up here. I'm 94 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:00,240 over it. Listen. The problem I have with fall is, yeah, 95 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,000 you've got a lot of nice weather, and of course it's very pretty the 96 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:09,000 leaves, especially north of here, like up in the mountains. But the 97 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:14,079 problem is what fall leads to, and what fall leads to is winter. 98 00:07:14,279 --> 00:07:16,720 And I'm not a winter guy. I'm a spring and summer guy. Those 99 00:07:16,759 --> 00:07:21,240 are my seasons, Spring and summer. I love fall in winter. M 100 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,040 no, thank you, That's how I feel about it. Let me give 101 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,800 you the studio line one more time. If you do want to get in 102 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,600 with a call, I suggest you do so soon because we have a busy 103 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,600 show ahead of us. Our first guest is skyping in at four thirty. 104 00:07:33,639 --> 00:07:36,600 But if you would like to chime in on anything, six three two five 105 00:07:36,839 --> 00:07:42,519 six seven six three two five six seven, let's say hello to everybody. 106 00:07:42,519 --> 00:07:46,560 In the Facebook live chat, John Hopwood says Matt is thinking about a song 107 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:54,000 from nineteen sixty two, Strange how the night moves. Then he gets to 108 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,079 that line about autumn closing in, and it's like, oh, at them, 109 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:01,120 I don't even like it. When you say I'm mean, autumn sounds 110 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:05,839 nice, like it's a nice word. So I guess autumn sounds maybe nicer 111 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:09,639 than fall, but it's still I don't like it. I love summer. 112 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,040 I want summer to last forever when I was a kid. You know, 113 00:08:13,079 --> 00:08:16,240 of course, you perceive time much differently when you're a child. Uh, 114 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:18,959 you know, days seem like weeks, and weeks seemed like months, and 115 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,519 you know, summer vacation would start, and it just felt like it was 116 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,040 going to last forever, which sounds like a terribly cliche thing to say. 117 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,399 I'm sorry, but that's that. That's how it felt. It was like, 118 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,839 summer is gonna last forever, you know, and then it would be 119 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:35,799 back to school time, and it wouldn't even because of the way you perceive 120 00:08:35,879 --> 00:08:37,519 time differently when you're a kid, at least for me, and I've heard 121 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,120 other people say this too. When you get to the end of summer, 122 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:41,960 it's not like, oh, it flew by. It's like, no, 123 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,399 it's you know, it seemed like about the requisite amount of time that is 124 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,759 allocated for the summer months. And now it's time to go back to school. 125 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:56,000 It feels normal, you know, but now it's like summer just again. 126 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,039 You know. It's it's my favorite time of year. It never seems 127 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,759 never seems enough. I can't believe it's already. August feels like this. 128 00:09:01,879 --> 00:09:07,399 Yesterday it was Memorial Day. Jay fed from the Great State of Vermont joins 129 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,000 us says good afternoon everyone, Good afternoon. Jenny of course is in the 130 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:15,159 Facebook live chat and says shalom peeps. DJ Steve joins us and says, 131 00:09:15,159 --> 00:09:18,559 good afternoon everyone. DJ Steve of course, one of our co hosts on 132 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:24,240 Friday nights for retro Spectrum Radio with Paul C. John Hopwood said, fifty 133 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,240 one degrees. Yes, it's supposed to get down to fifty one degrees. 134 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,200 It's gonna be icicles tomorrow morning. Icicles. No, it won't be that 135 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:37,159 bad. But the original forecast that's revised. The original forecast I heard this 136 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:39,879 morning was I was supposed to get down into the low forties. So I'm 137 00:09:39,879 --> 00:09:45,919 glad that's changed. I'm glad that's been revised. I was freaking out. 138 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:50,600 Let's see. Oh. Melanie Liberty from the Great State of Vermont also joins 139 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,399 us in the Facebook lave chat. Hello Melanie. Hey, something quick and 140 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,159 not a political story, but I just I saw this on CNBC dot com 141 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:05,399 and it really grabbed my attention. It involves Amazon. Check this out. 142 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:15,200 Amazon employees leak secret info that marketplace sellers can buy on Telegram. Part of 143 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,039 why that caught my eye. Is you know, I don't really talk about 144 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,799 it much on the show. It's not that interesting. But I've been in 145 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:26,320 the online retail game for a long time and I've sold much inventory on Amazon, 146 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,840 not currently, but that's not a selling platform I'm currently using. But 147 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:35,279 I have a lot of experience as a as a third party seller on Amazon 148 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,759 dot Com. Oh hello to Miriam Bannish who joins us in the Facebook live 149 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:46,320 chat. But I thought this was interesting. If so, in theory, 150 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,240 if I were still selling on Amazon specifically, I could go on Telegram and 151 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:56,279 buy secret information. This is fascinating to me. Key points from the article 152 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:01,879 Amazon International information is finding its way onto messaging apps like Telegram, where brokers 153 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:07,240 are selling data to third party sellers. The brokers act as middlemen between sellers 154 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:13,799 and Amazon employees, who leak the data in exchange for money. A message 155 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:20,080 and a Telegram group says quote much more you can find about your account by 156 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:26,960 ordering screenshots with inside information from US as Sellers Support sees it unquote. By 157 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,960 the way seller support, if you are a third party seller on Amazon, 158 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,200 you don't ever want to have to interact with seller support. It doesn't always 159 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,600 go well you know, because something something goes wrong with your account, or 160 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,879 they're holding up your money or something. You've got to contact seller support and 161 00:11:45,039 --> 00:11:48,919 sometimes they'll side with you, but sometimes they'll find ways to screw you over. 162 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:54,440 Quite frankly says here for millions of sellers who make up the booming Amazon 163 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,360 marketplace. You know, because if you don't know what I'm talking about, 164 00:11:56,399 --> 00:12:00,080 by the way, with third party sellers, if you go on Amazon and 165 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,600 you look up a product, you'll see usually Amazon is selling it, right, 166 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,039 but then they have all these third party sellers that are also selling it 167 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:13,320 on the Amazon platform, and they're all competing with each other. Unfortunately. 168 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:16,480 Part of what's driven a lot of third party sellers out, like myself, 169 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,879 for example, is Amazon in recent years with a lot of products, they've 170 00:12:20,879 --> 00:12:26,720 begun sort of low balling the third party sellers. So you might sell something 171 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:31,120 on Amazon at a certain price, and then Amazon is selling it themselves at 172 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,200 a much lower price, and you can't lower your price to compete with Amazon 173 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:39,840 any more than you already have, because then you will be actually losing money. 174 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:50,080 You'll have no profit margin on that product. It's terrible. John Hopwood 175 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,320 says, I just got a message from Facebook that I have memories to share 176 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,879 from two people who are now dead. That's very strange, and I think 177 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:07,279 that might be related to the Satanic portal. Let's see if you don't know 178 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,120 what the Satanic portal is. That's why you have to listen to the show 179 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,000 every day. If you don't listen to this show every single day, you 180 00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:18,279 will miss a lot of very important and to be honest, potentially life saving 181 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:22,000 information. So it is important to tune in every day, it says here. 182 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:28,080 Helping third party sellers recover their accounts has turned into a large and lucrative 183 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,799 enterprise because the only way the merchants can get back up and running is to 184 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,799 admit guilt and correct the issue, or show sufficient evidence that they did nothing 185 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,039 wrong. The process is often costly, lengthy, and fraught with challenges. 186 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,879 Yeah, I know it all too well again from my own experience. That's 187 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:48,159 why this jumped out at me. You know, Amazon can at any time 188 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,399 just shut you down, so you could be You got to understand there's I 189 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,279 don't know a thousands cents of thousands, hundreds of thousands of third party sellers 190 00:13:56,279 --> 00:14:01,759 who make a full time living selling on Amazon. And then one day, 191 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,399 Amazon just says, hey, you broke the rules and we're shutting you down, 192 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,120 and then there's a review process, and meanwhile your income has stopped. 193 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,039 It's no different than you know, we've talked on the show about, for 194 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:16,320 example, YouTube and some of their arbitrarily enforced rules and the way they go 195 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:20,399 about it. If you are I mean, I'm not in this position, 196 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,840 but if you are someone who actually makes your living on YouTube, you know, 197 00:14:24,919 --> 00:14:28,679 you've got a thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of subscribers, 198 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,080 and you know you're cranking out these videos in your channel is monetized, 199 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:37,039 and that's how you I mean, they're streamers who make their living on platforms 200 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:41,960 like YouTube and Twitch and others rumble and then all of a sudden one day, 201 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:46,480 YouTube says, ah, we found an infraction, and we're either we're 202 00:14:46,879 --> 00:14:50,960 suspending your account or we're demonetizing you. You know, it can be crushing. 203 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,759 So it's a terrible situation to find yourself in. So I can see 204 00:14:54,799 --> 00:15:00,919 where this information would be very valuable. The third party sellers Hello to Chris 205 00:15:00,919 --> 00:15:03,200 from the band Edgewise, who joins us in the Facebook lap chat. So 206 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,799 yeah, so the process can be very difficult, and it says here again 207 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:11,120 this is from CNBC dot com enter the illicit broker for a fee of two 208 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:18,159 hundred to four hundred dollars. Sellers can pay for services like Amazon Magic a 209 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:24,360 one broker as one broker on encrypted messaging service Telegram calls it. The offerings 210 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:28,759 also include access to company insiders who can remove negative reviews on a product and 211 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,919 provide information on competitors. Users are told to send a private message to learn 212 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,240 the price of certain services. The Telegram group has over thirteen thousand members, 213 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,879 and it's far from the only one. Other brokers pedal similar services on Telegram, 214 00:15:43,879 --> 00:15:48,279 as well as on wee Chat, WhatsApp and Facebook groups. The confidential 215 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,279 data is promoted as intelligence Gold for any seller working to get their product or 216 00:15:52,279 --> 00:15:58,320 account reinstated. The groups are part of a robust market of so called black 217 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,919 hats service providers that have cropped up alongside the rise of third party marketplaces on 218 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,840 Amazon, Etsy and Walmart. Amazon's marketplace now accounts for over sixty percent of 219 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:14,480 good sold on the platform and includes numerous businesses that generate millions of dollars a 220 00:16:14,559 --> 00:16:18,399 year in annual revenue on the site. As it's grown, the sprawling global 221 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,000 marketplace has also seen a surge in the number of counterfeiters and spammers trying to 222 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:26,080 game the system, which has pushed Amazon to ramp up enforcement. Much of 223 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:32,600 the activity originates off of Amazon's marketplace and on social media and encrypted messaging apps, 224 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,720 complicating the policing efforts. A public Facebook page identified by CNBC offers an 225 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:44,399 Internet I'm Sorry, an internal screenshot service with quote valuable insight into your seller 226 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,120 account, allowing you to see how Amazon employees view your account and its performance. 227 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:55,360 Une Facebook parent Meta did not respond to a request for comment. The 228 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,600 issue of rogue employees taking bribes is not a new one for Amazon. The 229 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,200 company has in the past dealt with low level, low wage seller support staffers 230 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,759 in China, India, and Costa Rica who have accepted payments in exchange for 231 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:15,519 leaking information. Brokers who act as middlemen between sellers and employees often reach out 232 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:19,480 to insiders on LinkedIn, said a person familiar with the matter, who asked 233 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:26,240 not to be named due to confidentiality. Amazon has an internal group tasked with 234 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:32,160 threat analysis and response, including a team dedicated to investigating employees suspected of leaking 235 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,960 data. The source said. The threat analysis unit monitors social media platforms for 236 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:44,039 abusive groups where bad actors may congregate before engaging an illicit activity on Amazon's marketplace. 237 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:52,559 Wow, this goes on. There's apparently so I didn't know this, 238 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:55,319 but we don't have time to get to the whole article. It's up on 239 00:17:55,519 --> 00:17:57,559 CNBC. It's right on their homepage if you want to see it. But 240 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:03,359 apparently this kind of thing has been going on for a long time, and 241 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:07,440 I suppose it was bound to happen, uh with the you know, with 242 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,359 all this technology that we have and encrypted uh encrypted apps and whatnot. I 243 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,759 guess what I would just say, though, is I would warn to people 244 00:18:14,759 --> 00:18:17,440 who are doing that kind of thing. If you're working for Amazon and you're 245 00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:22,359 doing that, or you're you know, if for any other company, you 246 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,759 know, you will get caught eventually. I mean, it's not worth the 247 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,279 risk. It is never worth the risk. John Hopwood shared shared an article 248 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:37,359 in the in the chat room from the street dot com about what Amazon takes 249 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,599 for from third party sellers. Yeah, it's not as lucrative as it used 250 00:18:42,599 --> 00:18:45,720 to be selling on Amazon third party I used to um, I used to 251 00:18:45,759 --> 00:18:53,039 do something called retail arbitrage, where I would I would purchase products. This 252 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,640 was a part of my business. I would purchase products on eBay and sell 253 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,559 them on Amazon at a profit. But again, you know, after a 254 00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:07,079 while, it's like Amazon sees you selling this stuff, and then they start 255 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,079 selling it themselves and they start lowballing you, and it's like, oh, 256 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,480 okay, so I can no longer compete with Amazon because Amazon is competing directly 257 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:21,200 with me. There have been weird stories too. There have been stories over 258 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,440 the years of people who invent their own products, manufacture their own trademark products, 259 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:32,200 the whole deal, right, and they open a seller account on Amazon. 260 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,000 They start selling on Amazon their own stuff that they make, they've trademarked, 261 00:19:36,039 --> 00:19:38,119 they've branded it, everything, and then all of a sudden, one 262 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:45,799 day, either some other third party seller who had bought some of these items, 263 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:49,920 they're now selling it and competing directly with the original seller who they bought 264 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:56,200 the products from, or Amazon it turns out bought a bunch of the stuff, 265 00:19:56,319 --> 00:20:00,599 or somebody selling counterfeit versions of the product that you've ada. That's you 266 00:20:00,599 --> 00:20:04,119 know, I'm not saying I'm not saying it's not worth it, you know, 267 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,799 to sell on Amazon. But there's a lot that can go wrong, 268 00:20:10,519 --> 00:20:14,240 that's for sure. All Right, here's what we're gonna do. We are 269 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:18,079 approaching for thirty and our first guest is going to be skyping in. We 270 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,599 have a two musical guests today. If you're disowning us, we have from 271 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,160 Starlight who's gonna be joining us at four thirty. They've got a big show 272 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,480 coming up in Allston, Massachusetts. They are from Albany, New York, 273 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,200 but they're gonna be in Allston tomorrow night, so they want to skype in 274 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,279 for a few minutes talk about that. And then at the top of the 275 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:36,799 hour, we have Jake Dollery from the UK who's gonna be joining us. 276 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:40,640 So very very exciting show today. But let's see. I'm gonna play this, 277 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:47,599 Yeah, I'm gonna play another from Starlight track. This is called what 278 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,279 She Needs. This is a really cool song. Let's give this a listen, 279 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,880 and then when we come back, we'll have them with us via skype. 280 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,519 I'm really looking forward to talking with these guys, or it might just 281 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:00,200 be one guy from the band. I'm not sure. We'll see, we'll 282 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,920 see, but I like these guys a lot. Check this out. This 283 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:22,200 is called what she needs from from starlight. This, this is what she 284 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:33,440 said that she needs. And here I wait on my knees. It's times 285 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:44,359 like the swearing is difficult, times like peace where it's so hot to scream. 286 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:51,880 But this is what she said, gets so through it, die and 287 00:21:52,200 --> 00:22:04,640 drinking again. I'm sorry, I'm such a mass, So sorry. Coats, 288 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:15,119 come rest. When the time starts the day, when the taste starts 289 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:26,440 to change, you'll be back in my embrace again like now they have been 290 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:49,039 at all is what she said that she means, But it's breaking my heart. 291 00:22:51,240 --> 00:23:00,039 Every time she turns around. It's like a falling alone. Just still 292 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:12,720 find out it's so when the time does to say, when the day starts 293 00:23:12,799 --> 00:24:21,440 to change, you back in my brace again, like that happenlaint So I 294 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:44,480 didn't sprain my why my shut down and I explain to my soul. I 295 00:24:44,480 --> 00:25:25,079 can't explain my harm like the kids shut down, he w. When the 296 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:34,720 time starts the day, when the day starts to change, you'll be back 297 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:52,599 in my embrace again like that have been that all my embrace again. I 298 00:25:52,720 --> 00:26:02,799 just need to remember that. Oh that's good stuff. What she needs? 299 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:08,720 Uh, that is the Band from the Starlight, and let's get Chris on 300 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,000 here. He's already on Skype waiting for us. I just got to connect 301 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:19,759 with him, so if I don't have any trouble like I did last week, 302 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:32,000 Chris, you're there. Hi. Hey, welcome Chris Stein from the 303 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:34,480 Band from the Starlight. How are you doing. I'm doing well? How 304 00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,039 are you very well? Very well? Is it just you? Any other 305 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,480 band members with you or just you? Just be today? They're running late 306 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:45,359 for rehearsals. Gotcha, gotcha? Hey, man, I really like your 307 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,640 sound. We played Blue Eyes to open the show today and uh, I 308 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,240 just you know, I just played what she Needs and great stuff. I 309 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:59,720 really dig what you're doing. And you're gonna be Uh you're from Albany, 310 00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:02,119 right? Is that where you are right now? Is Albany in New York? 311 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:04,240 Yes, we're out of Albany, New York. And then you're gonna 312 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,519 be in Allston, Massachusetts tomorrow night. Correct, that's right. Yeah, 313 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:14,640 in Boston, just across the river from Cambridge at at the Silhouette Lounge. 314 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,400 Very cool. I don't think i've ever been there. Um did obviously, 315 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,720 I've been to the area, but not to that venue. Have you played 316 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,000 there before or is this your first time there? This would be my first 317 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,960 time there and probably the last time in a band. I personally have performed 318 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,160 in Boston in almost ten years. Oh get a long time since I've been 319 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,759 on the East coast. Oh wow, okay, gotcha? Gotcha? Um? 320 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,440 Now, how many guys are in the band? Is it four of 321 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,119 you? Four of us in the band? We have a guitarist at him. 322 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,960 He plays in another band called The Young Canny Gentleman H. He also 323 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,279 helps with some of the vocals. Uh, Brendan H. He plays in 324 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:59,599 a really interesting bluegrass folk band called The Narrow North. And he's playing bass 325 00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:03,200 and he does vocals, And we have a drummer Russ And we're still you 326 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,000 know, we sometimes have a keyboard player join us. We don't have have 327 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,200 one on this leg. I was gonna say, on that song, I 328 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,960 think it was blue Eyes. I thought I heard it sounded like a Moog 329 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,880 synthesizer in there. Definitely. Yeah. I play a lot of the synth 330 00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:25,880 stuff on the record myself. It's uh, you know, layering the different 331 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,400 sounds was a really important part of the music to us this time around. 332 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,519 That was really kind of foundation what we wanted to do. We just wanted 333 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:37,000 to try to modernize some of the rock sound that we had to blend in 334 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:41,839 with more modern music. Have you guys been around for a while. No, 335 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,119 this is our first, our first record. Some of the first shows 336 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:49,960 we're doing as a as a group live. Oh wow, Okay, very 337 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,559 cool, very cool. Well, I mean you're off to a great start. 338 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,440 How long has the record been out? We put it out very quietly 339 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,759 just after COVID. The record was done during COVID as just kind of a 340 00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:08,039 side project, and then as as you know, the pandemic blinded down and 341 00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:12,119 we were able to get people together as a as a group, we decided 342 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:18,160 to give it a go because we have more songs written and start to support 343 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:22,599 support the music. Um yeah, I mean it must feel good to get 344 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:26,119 out there and play. Are you playing a lot of shows? We are 345 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:32,880 just getting ramped up. We're booking shows in New York and in the Buffalo 346 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,799 area and town in uh Pittsburgh. Yea, but this is this is the 347 00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:40,680 first one we're doing really formally. We've been We've done a couple of shows 348 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:45,240 where we haven't announced, but the first formal show we're doing and we're starting 349 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,000 up here in Boston. Oh, excellent, excellent. By the way, 350 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:52,359 what's the scene like in Albany. Do you play in Albany? I've I've 351 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,240 been in Albany, New York, but not for a very long time. 352 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:59,599 I used to work for a company that their corporate headquarters were in Albany, 353 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,160 So every once in a great while I would I would get to travel there. 354 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,519 But um, but I never really got a sense of what the scene 355 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:10,559 was like there. It used to be really great. There were a lot 356 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:14,000 of original bands that came out of the area. You know, count the 357 00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:18,079 Stars got picked up by Victory Records a long time ago in the early two 358 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,680 thousands. Uh, there's a new band, State Champs, out of AVL 359 00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:30,160 Park that's that's been doing really well nationally. But you know, recent years 360 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,039 they've seen a lot of venues closed, but there's there's a new set of 361 00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:37,640 venues developing there. So Troy has a brand new venue, Albany's built a 362 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,680 brand a couple of brand new venues, and so it's like at a turning 363 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:47,759 point right now where it seems that some of the local original scene is starting 364 00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:52,079 to come back and thrive. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Troy 365 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,559 is close right, pretty close to Albany. Yeah, just a couple of 366 00:30:56,599 --> 00:31:02,920 minutes down the road. It's only about fifteen minutes Troice, Schenectady, Albany 367 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:06,759 and kind of Clifton Park. Those all kind of blend together as far as 368 00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:10,240 the music is, uh, you know, music's concern. Yeah. Yeah. 369 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:12,680 UM. What's the kind of the long term plan are you gonna do? 370 00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:15,039 Uh? Are you going to do a tour or are you gonna kind 371 00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:19,480 of stay regional and work on new music or what? What? What? 372 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:25,799 What's the plan plan right now is to record some new music. We've we've 373 00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:30,319 lined up Tim Leitner to to do a few more songs with us. We're 374 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:37,839 building a larger rehearsal and recording space right now in Albany, and we're hoping 375 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,960 that's done in the next month or so. And and that'll give us, 376 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,160 you know, a permanent creative space that we can you know, we can 377 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,480 use to write and and build out longer shows and better sets. Uh. 378 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:53,480 You know. The idea is to definitely, uh to do more and more 379 00:31:53,519 --> 00:32:00,799 shows regionally, uh and perhaps in the summers uh, or or take advantage 380 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,119 of some of the connections I have down south from when I lived in Florida, 381 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,680 so there's a possibility going down there. It's just the logistics are really 382 00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:13,480 difficult to work out. Okay, now, are you from Florida? Originally, 383 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,839 because I was thinking you don't sound like a Northeasterner, I I'm actually 384 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,200 it was I'm from Walbany originally. Oh no, kid, but then I've 385 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,440 traveled all over the place. Yeah, it sounds like, yeah, the 386 00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:31,480 traveling can kind of just uh suck the accent out of you. Um, 387 00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:35,440 It's funny like yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I've known a 388 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,799 lot of people. I've known people who grew up here and it's like you 389 00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:39,759 can't you know they've but they've been around and you can't tell, you know, 390 00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:43,599 just because they've gone to other places where, you know, like the 391 00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:47,720 Midwest or whatever where that you just Jesus can't this almost like a non almost 392 00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:52,720 like a newscaster's accent where there just is no accent basically, um but uh 393 00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:58,799 yeah, sure, oh yeah, oh no, I'm sorry, go ahead, 394 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,599 Chris. No. And if you live in a place where their strong 395 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,599 accents, like I spent a year in Boston, you find yourself picking up 396 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,799 on some of that as well, even though it's not natural to you, 397 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,000 right right, Oh, yeah, absolutely. I wanted to ask you, 398 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:20,400 can you tell us more about working with Tim Leitner, because I'd like to 399 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,000 know how that came about, because again, he's worked with some I'm looking 400 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:27,000 at a list here from your bio. He's worked with Carly Simon, Bruce 401 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,920 Springsteen, Tina Turner, Adam Ezra, whom I've interviewed over the years. 402 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,480 I think a couple of times. He's amazing. I love Adam Ezra, 403 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,279 but um, yeah, he's worked with some some some pretty heavy hitters. 404 00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:43,480 How did you connect with him and how has it been working with him? 405 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:45,839 Obviously it's been positive because the music sounds great and you said you're going to 406 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,319 do more of it in the future. But how did that all come about? 407 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,240 Yeah? So I was living in Florida at the time I wrote the 408 00:33:54,319 --> 00:34:00,440 songs, and I started to think about, you know, really reaching out 409 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,640 to some great producers to see if they'd be willing to work on the project 410 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,840 with me, because I wanted to have a lot of director I wanted to 411 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,159 have a lot of control over what I was doing, and at the time, 412 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:15,840 we didn't have a I didn't have a band. You know. Russ 413 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,159 was laying down some drum ideas for me, but I was playing everything else. 414 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,840 And I think I wanted too, for the first time, make a 415 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:29,239 record that that I wanted to make without without compromising the vision I had, 416 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:35,360 and Tim really his creative process the way he talked to me. And then 417 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,840 we went up and we drove to New York City, Russ and I, 418 00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:45,440 uh in March of twenty twenty nineteen or yeah, twenty nineteen, just because 419 00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:47,320 the next year would have been the pandemic. We uh. We went to 420 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,639 Sticky Audio and we worked for three or four days and that that was twenty 421 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:55,360 two uh. And it was a great process, and then we planned on 422 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,440 working together in the future. This record was really very weird because I was 423 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:10,760 in my rehearsal space up here in Albany via Zoom, sending the mix live 424 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,559 as I was doing things down to Tim in New York City because we you 425 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:20,000 know, there was a travel band during the during the pandemic. Yeah, 426 00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:23,559 so we did this almost remotely. Uh. And then we got together and 427 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:27,960 he came up here and we did Stars and Satellites here. So we've we've 428 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,559 worked together about three times now. Kind of fascinating process. He's a brilliant, 429 00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:37,199 brilliant mind. Yeah. I always say too, you know, as 430 00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:40,239 far as like working with someone over zoom and you know, sending files back 431 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,239 and forth and whatnot. One thing, you know, I mean, the 432 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:49,480 pandemic has been awful in so many ways, but I do think it's good 433 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,719 to try to find those silver linings where we can. And one good thing 434 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,639 is the timing of it, because at least it happened in an era where 435 00:35:55,639 --> 00:36:01,199 we have all this technology, and it's the technology that we have that allowed 436 00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:06,599 people to continue to be creative and to find ways to work together, and 437 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,920 whether it's recording or even you know, there's some some really famous bands who 438 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,920 would do live performances online and you know, just all kinds of crazy stuff 439 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,480 that you know, if this had happened twenty years sooner, or even ten 440 00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:24,400 years sooner, it would have been a lot harder in that sense. So 441 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,519 I think it really brought out a lot of creativity and people. You know, 442 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,039 necessity being the mother of invention. You know that the pandemic made it 443 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:37,039 necessary for people to find new ways to you know, because I'm sure a 444 00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:43,800 lot of musicians would have been much more resistant to using technology to create music 445 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:49,840 in this way without being forced to, and the pandemic kind of forced people 446 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,920 to become more adaptable to that and amenable to work in that way. You're 447 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,119 absolutely right, and we were, we were among them. We were. 448 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,199 We did not want to do an I think virtually we put it off and 449 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,920 pushed the project back and back and back, and it was actually towards the 450 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,440 end of twenty twenty when we finally said, Okay, we're just going to 451 00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:14,920 give up. It doesn't seem like this is relenting and and we're very lucky 452 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:22,239 that the technology existed where we could have live transmission of high quality audio back 453 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:27,159 and forth almost instantaneously. Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, it's 454 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,079 uh, it's it's really incredible. And do you have you probably it's too 455 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:35,679 soon, I would guess, But do you have any kind of an idea 456 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,199 when music that you created in the future, the next batch of songs or 457 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,559 the next album, when that might be out, or are you shooting for 458 00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:47,320 some time in the next year. We're trying to get at least another four 459 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:53,079 or five out soon. We've got several written that we were rehearsing right now, 460 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,920 and a couple that you know, are are pretty pretty developed. But 461 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,159 we want to take every together as a package, you know, to look 462 00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:06,119 at as a whole and make sure we make smart decisions on what we you 463 00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,400 know, what we release, because we're trying to set a pretty high bar 464 00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:13,400 for for the songs we put out right right now. And like I said, 465 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,239 everything sounds great and it's uh, it sounds like you're in a fantastic 466 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:22,199 position as far as recording and getting to work with somebody that the caliber of 467 00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:25,239 Tim Leitner, that that certainly helps. And uh, and the songwriting is 468 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,719 really strong. Who do you write? I get the impression do you write 469 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:34,639 the songs yourself? Yeah? I do this batch dispatch, I did write, 470 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,639 Uh, you know, Stars and Satellites Russ. Russ helped me with 471 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:42,039 some of the lyrics on that. And we're more collaborative now that we have 472 00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,039 you know, more musicians and we're able to you know, be in a 473 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,079 room together for a long period of time. Right. So that's yeah, 474 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,360 that's been much much welcome to to take some of the pressure of writing everything 475 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,639 off of my shoulders. Oh, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah. It does 476 00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:59,679 seem like, you know a lot of bands start out that way too, 477 00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:02,559 where it's kind of like a solo project and then it turns into a band, 478 00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:06,679 and you'll often hear the person with whom the band started as a solo 479 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,079 project will say, oh, it's just so much easier now. I mean 480 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,559 famous example, the Food Fighters. You know that first Food Fighters album was 481 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:16,320 all Dave Grohl and and you know he has said many times an interview, 482 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,239 so it's so nice. You know, once I add an actual band officially 483 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,880 together to record instead of to you know, just all all the pressure being 484 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,440 on me, so and it is h you know, one of the great 485 00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:30,559 joys of making music is being able to collaborate with other people. So that's 486 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,960 that's great. The time goes by so quick. I don't want to run 487 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,360 out of time, Chris, So, I want to make sure people know 488 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:43,760 well two important things. If you can remind us about the show tomorrow night, 489 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,039 so our listeners in the area can get there. But also too, 490 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:52,079 anything you want our listeners to know about where to find you online, website, 491 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:54,320 social media, anything. Where's the best place to go to keep up 492 00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:00,960 with everything that from Starlight is doing. Yeah, so we're playing tomorrow night 493 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:07,000 at eight o'clock at the Silhouette Lounge in Boston, Massachusetts, just across the 494 00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:12,880 river from Cambridge, with the White Bear Principle at Sleep, Jumper and Dead 495 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,320 Vapor. That should be a really great lineup. I think it goes eight 496 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,480 to eleven o'clock. And as far as keeping in touch with the band or 497 00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:25,519 looking us up, we're on all the streaming platforms, although it seems from 498 00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:30,280 metrics everybody's using Spotify, So you can find us on Spotify, and then 499 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:37,039 you can also find us on Twitter at at makes Underscore Chris and At from 500 00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:40,039 Starlight twenty one excellent, excellent. Oh one other thing too, by the 501 00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:43,880 way, where does the name come from? From Starlight? What does that 502 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:51,440 mean? That's that came out of writing stars and satellites. I was gonna 503 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,199 call the project that, but but we ended up with a song like that, 504 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,440 and so we just, uh, we started to think about some of 505 00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,480 you know, a lot of these tunes are about love from weird or different 506 00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:08,679 perspectives, either from you know, drugs, singing to an addict or you 507 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,880 know, people struggling singing to other people. And so we just we kind 508 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,760 of we're thinking of different metaphysical things and that's kind of where it came from 509 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:22,760 plus the music. We tried to have a little soaring and sometimes some sci 510 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,880 fi elements drift in, so I think that's where we ended up settling on 511 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,079 that. Yeah, yeah, very cool. I like it a lot. 512 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,599 All right, Well, Chris Stein, we're gonna let you go, my 513 00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:36,199 friend, and uh and we're gonna actually close out the segment with one more 514 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,199 song, but I'd like you to pick. So I played what She Needs 515 00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:43,920 and I played blue Eyes. What song would you like us to play to 516 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,400 close out the segment? You get to choose. I think Stars and Satellites. 517 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,639 It's short and seems to be one people gravitate towards, and we were 518 00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:54,800 just talking about it, so that's perfect. All right, all right, 519 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,880 I'm gonna play that one in a moment, but I'll let you go. 520 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,480 Chris, Thank you again so much. A great show tomorrow night, and 521 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,480 I'm sure we will we'll do this again in the future. Thank you, 522 00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:07,199 my friend, Thank you so much. We appreciate it. All right, 523 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,159 Chris, you got it, Take care, byebye. All right. That 524 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:15,639 was the great Chris Stein from the band from Starlight and uh yeah, check 525 00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:20,800 them out tomorrow night. They will be in Austin. And I'm gonna play 526 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,920 we will close out. We'll close out this segment with that track, and 527 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,920 then after that, coming up in the second hour, we have Jake Dollery 528 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:36,119 with us skyping in from the UK. So we're gonna play this track from 529 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,320 from Starlight. Then we'll take a quick breakshow some love to our amazing sponsors, 530 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,960 and then we're gonna hear something from our next guest. If you are 531 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,760 just joining us, Yes, this is Matt Connerton Unleashed. We are live 532 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,840 and we have a double header today. We got two musical guests, which 533 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,639 is very exciting. I do love talking to musicians, all kinds of creative 534 00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:54,719 people, but especially musicians. All Right, here we go. This is 535 00:42:54,960 --> 00:43:40,239 uh Stars and Satellites from Starlight. 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Today is Tuesday, August first, two thousand and 571 00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:44,719 twenty three. Thank you again to Chris Stein from the band from Starlight for 572 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,719 joining us today. They got a big show tomorrow night in Austin, mass 573 00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:50,719 check it out. I really like their music, I really like their sound 574 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,719 and that was great talking to Chris. And in just a couple of minutes 575 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,880 we are going to be joined via skype by We've got two musical guests today. 576 00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:02,880 Jake Dolery is going to be calling I'm sorry not calling skyping man of 577 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,440 course, because he is across the pond as they say in the UK. 578 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,199 So really looking forward to talking to him. And he's got a great sound 579 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,079 as well. It's a little different. It's really cool. Um. We've 580 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,920 a lot of these artists that we talked to from the UK are just really 581 00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:21,400 remarkable. Um, who is it? Oh? Last week we had Lewis 582 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,480 Tivy who was just fantastic. I really love what he's doing. But I'm 583 00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:28,800 gonna go ahead and play one of these Jake Dolery tracks now, and then 584 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,400 once the song is over, we'll have him with us via Skype. This 585 00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:35,800 is called come and get Me and this is really really catchy. I like 586 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,280 this a lot. Check this out. Come and get me from Jake Dollery 587 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:57,400 right here on Matt Connerton unleashed. Yeah, fine, I can see your 588 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:07,000 mind. We might find you've been crying for too many years. He's up 589 00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:12,800 with a single tips so wrong with me. Don't push me away, try 590 00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:21,239 rise out for to day and come and get me. Come and get me 591 00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:27,119 here. I am, Come and get me here. I am, come 592 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:40,000 and get me one man. How long since you can't gonna ring? You've 593 00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:46,920 been kept some end of the chain trapsing world about love for him? Your 594 00:51:47,199 --> 00:51:54,440 good enough, he's my love. Give me a call like the promise, 595 00:51:54,519 --> 00:52:01,199 will have a ball. Let me know what you desire because I'm my mom 596 00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:08,000 bi. Don't come and get me here. I am, Come and get 597 00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:15,239 me here. I come and get me here. I am, Come and 598 00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:32,440 get me a wan of me, a man, come and get me a 599 00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:38,119 hen's to night. You know that I'll treat you right, So let me 600 00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:46,239 make this feel. Come and get me and my hare stop. Get what's 601 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:52,920 gone? The boy. You don't need you cry anymore. Look into my 602 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:59,239 eyes gone, say a thing. It's time for you to begin. Don't 603 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:07,280 come and get me out, Come and get there. Out Come and get 604 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:39,760 me here, Come and get me. A want of me, so come 605 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:52,760 get me, Come and get me so I get me out. I want 606 00:53:52,800 --> 00:54:02,800 to be up. I don't even have the words for how much I like 607 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,800 that song. That is so good. Come and get me Jake Dollery and 608 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,239 I think we have him on Skype. Jake, are you there? Yeah, 609 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,320 I'm right here. Man. Oh. It's always a relief when when 610 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,960 everything works out with Skype, because sometimes when we have these Skype calls that 611 00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:22,159 are you know, transcontinental, we are run into technical difficulties. So I'm 612 00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:25,960 glad. I'm glad we're connected. I love that song. I love that 613 00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:30,840 song. Come and get me that is so good. Thank you very much. 614 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,519 I'm I can hear you, but I can't see you. Yeah that 615 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,559 that that that's okay, they'll they'll you don't need to see me. What's 616 00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:44,840 that? Can you see me? I can well if I turn so our 617 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,679 listeners can't see you. But they can't see Uh, they can't see whoever's 618 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,079 on Skype anyway. I can see you. You're a you're all that there's 619 00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:57,960 no seeing me. It's probably not a bad thing. Noah, I don't 620 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,280 worry about it. No, we're good. We're good. I I can 621 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,920 I can see you if I turn to look at that monitor. But no, 622 00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:05,119 the important thing is that we can hear each other. By the way, 623 00:55:05,159 --> 00:55:07,119 how do you say your last name? Because I'm worried that I'm not 624 00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:13,519 saying it correctly? Hopefully right? Dollary Okay, American currency with a Y 625 00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:15,639 on the end. Gotcha, dollary? Okay, very good, very good? 626 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,719 Hey um, Yeah, I really really like that song. I love 627 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,000 your sound. UM. I think that track in particular, the bassline, 628 00:55:24,199 --> 00:55:29,519 it just is so good. Now do you do you do you do everything 629 00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:32,320 yourself? Or do you have other musicians that you work with? UM on 630 00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:37,800 that particular track, was or me? Apart from drums, I have to 631 00:55:38,679 --> 00:55:45,559 kind of source drums from UM. How can I put this? Sometimes they're 632 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:53,440 elicited, sometimes the drum machine. Sometimes they're live drums that that you download 633 00:55:53,639 --> 00:55:59,280 from from people that provide that kind of thing. Yeah, but on this 634 00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:04,960 yeah, it's pretty much all me. All the vocals, the guitar work, 635 00:56:06,199 --> 00:56:07,639 based work is all me. Yeah, I just I just kind of 636 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,639 like that little bassline. Well, I was just noodling about one day with 637 00:56:13,519 --> 00:56:15,800 a bass in my lap, and and I thought, I, hang on, 638 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,360 I could build something around this, and I just wanted something a little 639 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:23,480 bit bluesy, a little bit rocky, you know, just just to um 640 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:30,719 create a bit of energy. And you know, you know, my lyrics 641 00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:35,039 obviously, I like to try and you know, be pretty cool with them. 642 00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:38,079 I don't like just writing empty lyrics, yeah, just random, you 643 00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:42,559 know. I like to I like to try and create a meaning in what 644 00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:49,559 I write. I don't want to sound pretentious, sorry no, but yeah, 645 00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:52,719 the bassline just really drives it. It propels the song forward, and 646 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,440 I really like it. It's very very catchy. And you sound to some 647 00:56:55,519 --> 00:56:58,960 other music too, you know. Well, well we'll play something else at 648 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,559 the end of the segment as well. But yeah, great, great stuff. 649 00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:07,000 And you've been at this a while, haven't you. Yeah, I've 650 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,000 been knocking around a few years. I'm not sure how, you know, 651 00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:13,760 if I should actually tell your listeners, but yeah, yeah, I've been 652 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:19,760 I've been making music since I was seventeen. UM, and here we are 653 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,199 forty years on. I'm fifty seven now. I've just released a new album 654 00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:29,639 which I'm really proud of. Um, it seems to be gathering a little 655 00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:34,159 bit of attention. UM, I mean not big time. I'm not going 656 00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:37,440 to pretend you know that it's anything more than that. But I've but I've 657 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:42,280 had a lot of independent stations like yourselves, um, picking up on what 658 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,440 I'm doing and I'm really liking it, which is really encouraging it. It's 659 00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:50,480 really it's really great to get that validation from people to say, you know, 660 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,079 we like what you're doing. You know, I've been, like I 661 00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:57,519 said, I've been making music for forty years, and then in the last 662 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,719 five or six years, I finally find an audience which is like wow, 663 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,840 which is probably a good thing because if I had found that when I was 664 00:58:08,239 --> 00:58:15,559 starting out, I probably have an ego the size of the Empire State Building's 665 00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:21,960 probably not very healthy. But right there you go. No, I mean, 666 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,719 you know, music, music's been there for me through the good times 667 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,840 and bad times, you know, through I mean, especially through COVID. 668 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:35,480 I had such a purple patching in writing because that had so much time you 669 00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:38,599 know, being being isolated at home and stuff, and you know, and 670 00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:44,639 I think I created some of my best music during that period. But so 671 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:50,400 yeah, there we go. It's that's what it's. It's interesting that you 672 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,280 say that about COVID because we were just talking with um. We had Chris 673 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:59,679 Stein from the band from Starlight on the show earlier, and we were at 674 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,280 talking about that, how you know, the pandemic kind of forced people to 675 00:59:04,719 --> 00:59:07,960 be more creative because all of a sudden, you know, a lot of 676 00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:10,360 options were limited in terms of you know, like he plays in a in 677 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,039 a full band and you know, they couldn't get together and whatnot. But 678 00:59:14,119 --> 00:59:17,400 they started recording together online, you know, emailing tracks back and forth. 679 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:23,320 And UM, I always say, too, as awful as the pandemic was, 680 00:59:23,639 --> 00:59:27,119 you know, a little bit of a silver lining and we have to 681 00:59:27,199 --> 00:59:30,239 find those where we can and that at least we live in a time where 682 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:35,000 we have the technology to still be able to be creative and to put that 683 00:59:35,239 --> 00:59:39,119 put what we create out into the world and disseminate it while being kind of 684 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:44,880 kind of stuck at home or stuck in some form of isolation. Yeah, 685 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,119 well for me because I'm because I'm not in a band, and that's that's 686 00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:52,320 not because I don't want to be. Yeah, you know, I'm I'm 687 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,679 in a position where I'm not making enough money out of my music to to 688 00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:01,039 not work. So you know, I'm you know, I've got other projects, 689 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,079 you know I do. I do my own radio show here in the 690 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:12,079 UK. Um. I I just found that it was helping with with my 691 01:00:12,199 --> 01:00:15,440 sanity. I speak if I think, if you speak to most creative people, 692 01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:22,320 most most musicians, artists, whatever their craft is, is that we're 693 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:28,400 quite fragile souls at times. And and you know, during the pandemic, 694 01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:34,960 my mental health took a big hit and I found solace in making music and 695 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,480 um, and you know, when your mind is in those dark periods, 696 01:00:39,519 --> 01:00:44,239 you can be you're most creative and come up with some of the some of 697 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,599 your best work ironically, and then when you look back on it, when 698 01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:51,159 you're in a better place, you go, wow, did I really do 699 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,599 that? That's wow? So um, Yeah, I'm you know, I'm 700 01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:58,960 you know, I'm obviously very proud of what I do. I know I'm 701 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,639 not the best. I'm not the best. I sing a best songwright, 702 01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:05,559 I'm not the best musician, but I do feel that what I do, 703 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,679 the sum of what I can do, is greater than their parts. And 704 01:01:10,519 --> 01:01:14,039 hence, you know, you just you had one of my you know, 705 01:01:14,159 --> 01:01:16,559 one of the chains I'm really proud of Come and Get Me because it's just 706 01:01:16,719 --> 01:01:22,480 a good driving rock song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I noticed 707 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:28,599 too your music. I mean, it sounds not just that song, but 708 01:01:28,719 --> 01:01:30,880 that song is a great example of it. It sounds like a band. 709 01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:37,519 It doesn't sound like it doesn't sound like it's um. I don't know if 710 01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:38,840 this is quite the right way to put it, but it doesn't even sound 711 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:44,760 like one guy who just recorded everything himself. It sounds live. It sounds 712 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,320 like a band, And I'm curious, is that is that intentional? Is 713 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,119 that something you're striving for or does it just wind up sound in that way. 714 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,039 I think a bit of both, really, you know, because I'm 715 01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:02,079 you know, as any artists will tell you that they're they're learning all the 716 01:02:02,199 --> 01:02:06,800 time, and I'm still learning, you know, even in my well, 717 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,000 I don't know, I don't know what your demographic is over over there in 718 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:17,239 Manchester, but me neither, I'm sorry, me neither who knows, you 719 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:22,360 know, I mean, you know, over here, um in the UK, 720 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:30,599 I think I'm just going to digress slightly. Is the You know, 721 01:02:30,199 --> 01:02:37,719 music platforms like Spotify are both demon and devil, sorry, Angel and Devil. 722 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:42,519 Um. You know, I've been able to release my music through a 723 01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:46,840 distribution company which is very very affordable, UM Distro Kid, which I believe 724 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:52,840 is an American American company. Yes, and I can get my music hurd 725 01:02:52,039 --> 01:03:00,719 it's great. And I've also spent a lot of time emailing shows and networking 726 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,480 and getting to know where I might be able to get my music heard, 727 01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:08,440 which never would have happened when I started out. You know, your only 728 01:03:08,519 --> 01:03:13,599 hope was that a record company would sign you and get your music out there. 729 01:03:14,719 --> 01:03:17,079 Where it's now you can self release, and so when I when I 730 01:03:17,159 --> 01:03:22,079 put my music together, coming back to your point about deliberately sounding like a 731 01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:23,119 band, yes, I do want to. I do want it to sound 732 01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:28,559 like a band. I try and when I'm writing my music and playing my 733 01:03:28,639 --> 01:03:31,239 instruments, I try to think, right now, I'm being a guitarist, 734 01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:37,159 Now I'm being a bass player. Now I'm being a vocalist rather than just 735 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:43,960 being It's all just me, and that's not me being conceited or anything like 736 01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:45,719 that. It's It's just that I want to make music and I don't have 737 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:51,079 the people immediately around me to do that. I do get help, I 738 01:03:51,199 --> 01:03:54,000 do get you know. I do collaborate on stuff. I've I've collaborated with 739 01:03:54,400 --> 01:04:00,280 two or three artists over there in the US. I'm not sure what. 740 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,039 I can't remember which songs I sent you to play. But there was a 741 01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:08,840 track I did called Drive with this guy called Rad Grandad, and he just 742 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,920 created this really nice vibe of a track that was is very basic, and 743 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,079 I just love the vibe of it. And I added, I didn't actually 744 01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:19,119 add that much. I added some guitars, I added some vocals and harmonies 745 01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:24,079 and stuff, and he came out really well. And so yeah, so 746 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:30,239 yeah, it's anything to create something new and listenable and exciting. It is 747 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:35,039 where I'm coming from. I'm not here too to be labeled as one thing, 748 01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:39,880 because you know, if you go into my back catalog, it's quite 749 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,719 diverse. You know. I've released seven albums plus the compilation album Wow. 750 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,679 You know, like I said, I've been knocking around a little while. 751 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,519 Um yeah, that's a lot of music. Um now, so I want 752 01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:58,559 to the circle back though, so you said, referring to Spotify and these 753 01:04:58,719 --> 01:05:01,639 um other services you said, they can be both the angel and the devil. 754 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:06,000 What's the devil part? What the devil is they pay you absolutely nothing, 755 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:12,719 you know, you know through my my you know, without promote, 756 01:05:12,719 --> 01:05:15,360 I don't have a marketing company behind me. I don't have any you know, 757 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,239 I'd literally do it all myself. And I spend a lot of time, 758 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,960 you know, trying to get radio stations to play my stuff, and 759 01:05:23,079 --> 01:05:28,559 thankfully a lot of them do they think it's good enough. Um, you 760 01:05:28,679 --> 01:05:32,159 know, I've I've got YouTube channel and I've got like over one hundred and 761 01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:39,039 fifty videos on YouTube, um, you know, and I'm there on Spotify, 762 01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:41,280 Amazon. You know, I'm not going to promote them, but any 763 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,440 major streaming and download site, I'm what I'm on there, and the returns 764 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:51,960 are pitiful. Yeah, I've had tens of thousands of plays and streams and 765 01:05:54,519 --> 01:06:01,000 you know today I've probably one hundred and fifty pound which is probably about two 766 01:06:01,079 --> 01:06:08,119 hundred dollars wow, in all the time for all those plays, you know, 767 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:14,159 and that that's that's the sad part of it. But for me personally, 768 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,760 being a man who's you know, let's face it, you know, 769 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,679 at the wrong end of a career, I'm not marketable. I mean, 770 01:06:21,719 --> 01:06:25,360 if you can see my face, you can see I'm I'm a little bit 771 01:06:25,519 --> 01:06:30,599 wrinkly, you know, I'm I'm not gonna face, you know, I'm 772 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,119 you know, I'm no Simon Lebonn or I don't know, he's a good 773 01:06:34,159 --> 01:06:40,480 like Justin Bieber or whatever. Whatever. If if if girls go, oh, 774 01:06:40,679 --> 01:06:45,199 what's his name? Who's that one direction guy? Oh, Harry Styles, 775 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:50,960 Harry Styles. Yeah, I ain't no Harry. You know, I'm 776 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:55,639 a middle aged I'm a middle aged man. So I'm not marketable to a 777 01:06:55,679 --> 01:06:59,440 record company. And I accept that. Yeah. You know, one thing 778 01:06:59,519 --> 01:07:01,760 I do get from it, like I referred to earlier, is that validation 779 01:07:02,119 --> 01:07:05,840 is being recognized as as a musicians, as an artist, as a credible 780 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:13,239 artist, which is really humbling because I've been trying to for full decades, 781 01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:18,440 trying to refrain from them the ruder words. Yeah. Yeah, um, 782 01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:24,719 so obviously too. So you've been around a while, so you know how 783 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:29,760 much it's all changed. And yeah, and I think one of the it 784 01:07:30,119 --> 01:07:32,239 is a it really is a double edged sword as far as how it's changed, 785 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:38,079 because obviously, um, you know, at one time, it was 786 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,719 pretty straightforward in terms of how it worked. You know, you you record 787 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,039 an album or an EP, although when I was growing up there weren't a 788 01:07:46,119 --> 01:07:49,800 lot of EPs, mostly albums and occasional EP you know. But you record 789 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:55,719 an album and you and then you go on to her and then eventually you 790 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,519 record another album and go on to her, you know. And there was 791 01:07:58,599 --> 01:08:03,440 a that was the Psyche call. And now you know, the Internet changed 792 01:08:03,519 --> 01:08:08,159 everything, so now it's it's um Now you've got all kinds of options. 793 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,280 You know, you can record albums, you can record singles. A lot 794 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,640 of the artists that I have on the show, they just record singles and 795 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,960 then when they have enough singles that they've released, then they put them into 796 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:24,720 an album. So it's kind of it's almost like they've reverse engineered it, 797 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,840 where you know, they're putting the singles out, just one right after another, 798 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,439 you know, and then they make an album. Yeah, I've kind 799 01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:35,600 of I totally get that, and I for me, I almost fell into 800 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:39,560 that, fell into that trap where I'd write a new song, I'd really 801 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,039 think it's you know, it's it's got some it's got something, and I'd 802 01:08:43,079 --> 01:08:46,840 release it and then I realized well, perhaps perhaps I'm just old school, 803 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:51,199 and I've withheld some of the tracks that I you know, I've I think 804 01:08:51,239 --> 01:08:58,239 have got something and then just released them as an album. Because what I 805 01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:02,079 tend to do is is I, rather than release and our release a single 806 01:09:02,199 --> 01:09:09,199 now, I tend to just farm out a certain track to to whoever. 807 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,720 You know. I put it on social media, um, send it off 808 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,079 to radio stations, and I hope they might play it. And and I've 809 01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:20,279 I've got a good I've got a you know, quite a nice little stock 810 01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:26,399 of radio stations that will play my music. Yeah, And I'm you know, 811 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,399 the only thing I hope for is is a nice little Royaly checks sometime 812 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,279 in the future from the radio plays. Right. But but like I said 813 01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:35,720 earlier, and I'm not making any money out of it. I do it 814 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,960 because I love making music. I do it because, um, you know, 815 01:09:41,119 --> 01:09:44,680 it's my creative art is my legacy, you know, and and you 816 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,560 know and and I'm you won't believe how proud I am to be invited to 817 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,960 be on this show, you know, to to to you know, this 818 01:09:51,079 --> 01:09:58,600 is my first first radio interview in the US, So you've got you've got 819 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,479 an exclusive man. Oh that's wonderful. No, I'm glad. Well that's 820 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,720 that's wonderful to hear. Yeah, yeah, I mean I've had plenty of 821 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:11,039 air play over there on on on various stations, but but nobody's nobody's been 822 01:10:11,119 --> 01:10:14,000 so kind as to invite me on and have a chat with me. So 823 01:10:14,119 --> 01:10:15,359 thank you very much. Oh yeah, no, thank you, thank you 824 01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:17,640 for joining us. And of course Jenny, you know, she does all 825 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:23,359 the booking and uh and she does a wonderful job. And um yeah, 826 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,079 do you um, do you miss being in bands or do you prefer do 827 01:10:29,159 --> 01:10:31,640 you think you're just gonna gonna stick with um doing everything yourself because it's it's 828 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,920 funny, you know again. You know, like I said, we had 829 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:39,960 on earlier Chris Stein from from Starlight and with him he started out as a 830 01:10:40,039 --> 01:10:44,239 solo artist and then his solo project kind of turned into a band. But 831 01:10:44,359 --> 01:10:48,279 I know from reading your bio you were in bands at one time and then 832 01:10:48,359 --> 01:10:51,880 it kind of evolved into doing things on your own. Do you ever miss 833 01:10:53,079 --> 01:10:57,600 being in a full band? I do so much. But it's trying to 834 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:04,000 find like my ended people that well, it's slightly difficult from me because I've 835 01:11:04,039 --> 01:11:11,279 got so much material behind me. It would have to be if I do 836 01:11:11,399 --> 01:11:15,199 get into another band, it would be a band that would be basically my 837 01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:18,199 backing band. You know. I'm more happy to perform under a name of 838 01:11:18,279 --> 01:11:21,760 a band. Yeah. I've even a few ideas of what that band might 839 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:27,720 be called. But I'm trying. You know. The problem is it's finding 840 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:32,000 time, finding the right musicians, finding the right committed musicians. I mean, 841 01:11:32,039 --> 01:11:34,920 I don't know what it's like in the States, but in the UK, 842 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:41,439 finding committed musicians is hard work. And being in a band, you 843 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:46,039 know, if there's like four members, you've got four separate egos or dragging 844 01:11:46,119 --> 01:11:51,399 you in different directions. And that's I found that hard work in my early 845 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:57,439 days of being in bands because I've got an ego. It's it's a lot 846 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,560 smaller than it was years ago, but you know it, you know, 847 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,960 it's hard, you know, because I mean, I am the last band 848 01:12:05,039 --> 01:12:12,119 I nearly got together, um, which was pre COVID. It was like 849 01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:15,239 twenty and eighteen, and we were a band. We were going to be 850 01:12:15,319 --> 01:12:19,800 the black rock Vandals. That is a cool name. Yeah, we were 851 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:24,159 gonna you know, we were going to be a bouncy rock rock but heavy 852 01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:28,079 rock band. Um, I was going to lead it. I was going 853 01:12:28,119 --> 01:12:30,640 to you know, be the vocalist, guitarist in it. Out of bassis 854 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,920 we had another. The other guitarist in the band was a guy who toured 855 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:41,159 with Johnny Thunders when he toured the UK back in back in the early eighties, 856 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,520 and you know Johnny Thunders and Heartbreakers. He played with him, so 857 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:51,520 he had a great, you know, great pedigree. But just as at 858 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:57,039 the point where we were ready to gig, the band fell apart and I 859 01:12:57,239 --> 01:13:00,800 was so gutted and and this point with it, with the amount of work 860 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:05,680 and effort I put in, yeah, it kind of I just felt so 861 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:12,800 sad and so I kind of made a At that time, I made a 862 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,159 decision say right now, I'm just going to go it alone. I'm not 863 01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:19,000 going to play live. I'm just going to be a recording artist. Just 864 01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:25,720 chuck stuff out there and hope it sticks, hope people like it. But 865 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,199 then now here a few years on, I think I really would like to 866 01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:33,439 get back on stage. I really like to just get up there and entertain 867 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:38,840 it, entertain a little crowd. Yeah, you know, even if it's 868 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,880 in a small club or pub, you know, and just bash out some 869 01:13:43,039 --> 01:13:45,359 tunes. Yeah, I do miss that a lot. I do miss that 870 01:13:45,399 --> 01:13:47,840 a lot. Yeah. I mean, in theory, it's something you could 871 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,279 wade back into, right if you just grabbed an acoustic guitar and went out 872 01:13:51,359 --> 01:13:56,359 and did some solo shows. Right. Well, I did that for a 873 01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,600 few years. I did that for about a decade. Yeah. I just 874 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,600 got up on stage and just strummed out some tunes. Um, you know, 875 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:10,000 some of my own, some covers and stuff. Um put them out 876 01:14:10,079 --> 01:14:15,399 there. They were well received. But you know, time restraints were working. 877 01:14:16,079 --> 01:14:21,239 Also at the time, there was parenting as well. My daughter um 878 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:26,800 at the time, was in her early teens, trying to find time to 879 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,600 and I'm I was a single parent. It's trying to find time to be 880 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,239 able to go out and play a gig and organized stuff. Sometimes she came 881 01:14:33,279 --> 01:14:38,239 along with me, but it wasn't great for her. She didn't really enjoy 882 01:14:38,359 --> 01:14:42,399 that. You know. The first couple were great fun, and then after 883 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:47,079 that, after the third you know, glass coke and packet of crisps or 884 01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:56,000 chips as you when and so. Um. So I kind of stepped away 885 01:14:56,039 --> 01:14:58,399 from that and I got a little bit board playing the same songs over and 886 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,600 over, and then I didn't have enough time to rehearse up new songs and 887 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:04,439 stuff. But no, I mean music is in blood, it's in my 888 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:09,119 heart, you know, and I really enjoy enjoy what I'm doing. Yeah, 889 01:15:09,359 --> 01:15:13,600 yeah, Now it's great like that that song Come and Get Me, 890 01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,800 I mean, that's that's a hit? Is that? Is that if you 891 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,800 got an airplay with that? Or is there a specific track that you've gotten 892 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,960 a significant amount of airplay with? Um that actually, funnily enough, is 893 01:15:24,359 --> 01:15:28,560 my most popular track on on Spotify. So that that's why I leave it 894 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,600 to you. Yeah. I mean, although it's only had about four or 895 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:38,119 five thousand UM listens, I mean it's had plenty on YouTube, it's had 896 01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:42,479 plenty on other other music platforms, and you know, you have your own 897 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,279 little favorite babies, and that's that's one of mine. Is It's quite a 898 01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:48,520 simple song, but I think it kind of delivers a bit of a punch, 899 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:55,640 you know. And my my compil I did a compilation album which was 900 01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,800 the album before the one I've just released. I've just released an album called 901 01:15:59,239 --> 01:16:06,840 paroxysm Um, which is just kind of rock, a bit of rock pop. 902 01:16:08,279 --> 01:16:12,319 It's not a particularly heavy rock album apart from the title track. But 903 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,279 what I what I did last year was released an album of like all my 904 01:16:15,399 --> 01:16:19,119 heavier tracks to you know, so right if you if you want to be 905 01:16:19,159 --> 01:16:23,359 slapped around the face and punched in the year with some some really good rock. 906 01:16:24,359 --> 01:16:27,760 Um, you know, I released a fifteen track best of album, 907 01:16:28,199 --> 01:16:33,960 ok and there's yeah, there's a number of tracks on that I released as 908 01:16:34,039 --> 01:16:40,600 singles that that that did okay and yeah, you know so if you listen 909 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,439 as want to check it out, you know where it is, you know, 910 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,800 go to YouTube. You don't have to pay for YouTube. Just listen 911 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:49,439 to it there right, or you can go to camp band camp and download 912 01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:53,640 it and paying me a couple of couple of dollars and I'll be happy, 913 01:16:54,039 --> 01:16:58,239 buy me a coffee. There you go, There you go. Um. 914 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,319 I wanted to ask you too. You're you're a fellow broadcaster, and I 915 01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:09,800 keep hearing about this radio wigwam. Yeah, I respect of not not mentioning 916 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:14,199 it because I didn't want to, you know, create a a a arrival 917 01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:15,960 for you. We're not arrival to anyone. No, no, it's fine, 918 01:17:16,359 --> 01:17:19,279 it's fine. I mean in this in this the media environment, the 919 01:17:19,319 --> 01:17:23,439 way it is now. I mean, you know, obviously like I wouldn't. 920 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,960 I wouldn't talk about another local radio station here in this market, for 921 01:17:28,039 --> 01:17:30,479 example. I wouldn't do that. But I have no problem you know, 922 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,199 talking about another online station or streaming platform or anything like that. It's fine. 923 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,880 No, I'm part of why I bring it up too, is I've 924 01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:42,239 just been hearing a lot about it and I think we've I think, um, 925 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,520 we even had we had someone on the show recently, Steve Gamblin, 926 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:49,560 who I think I think he has a show on there. Uh, and 927 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:54,319 he's he's here in Uh, he's right here in Manchester, but I think 928 01:17:54,399 --> 01:17:57,600 he Um, I think he has a segment that runs on a show there. 929 01:17:58,279 --> 01:18:00,239 But but I've been hearing about Radio Wig why I'm a lad. Can 930 01:18:00,319 --> 01:18:04,159 you tell us about it and tell us about your show? I say we 931 01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:11,479 I only came in. The station was about eight years old. Um, 932 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,439 A guy called Christian John and Mike Greene founded it about eight years ago. 933 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:23,640 They're from Wales, part of the UK. Um. I found them just 934 01:18:24,119 --> 01:18:28,199 purely by you know, chucking my music at any radio station I could find 935 01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:32,359 that the ask for submissions. Yeah, um, they really liked what I 936 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:39,199 did. Musically. They nominated me for an award as their best Male Artists 937 01:18:39,239 --> 01:18:43,000 for twenty twenty because they really liked my stuff. Wow, I didn't. 938 01:18:43,279 --> 01:18:45,079 I didn't win, that's all right. I don't mind the nominations more than 939 01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:49,680 us. Yeah, And then they invited me to do a takeover show. 940 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:56,279 So there's a slot, a weekly slot on the station where they invite one 941 01:18:56,319 --> 01:19:00,359 of the artists, unsigned artists they feature to to do a show and just 942 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:06,000 tell the world about what music they influenced them, what music they like, 943 01:19:09,119 --> 01:19:13,720 and introduced the tracks and such like. And they liked the fact the way 944 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:20,119 I delivered the show that they invited me to do basically a weekly show of 945 01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:27,800 me playing music I like, and that's great. And so when I started, 946 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,520 I was a bit rubbish because I wasn't I'd never done anything like that 947 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:38,279 before. And so I've kind of found my radio presenter identity now and I've 948 01:19:38,319 --> 01:19:42,600 got a weekly show that goes out three times a week. One show goes 949 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:47,640 out three times a week Tuesdays. In fact, my show just finished just 950 01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,560 as we started this one. Oh no kidding, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 951 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:56,199 Well I don't do it live, okay, we record it. Yeah, 952 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,760 And so I do that. That show goes out three times a week 953 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:05,159 and again I just play sort of like indie indie rock, some normal rock. 954 01:20:05,399 --> 01:20:09,920 It's quite a collectic, you know. Some I play a lot of 955 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:15,279 m eighties and nineties rock music, you know, from britt Park to you 956 01:20:15,359 --> 01:20:23,279 know, some spandex American rock. Yeah. I play some classic seventies rock, 957 01:20:25,039 --> 01:20:27,199 you know, and stuff like that. And at the end of the 958 01:20:27,279 --> 01:20:30,920 show, I chuck in a couple of unsigned artists. Yeah, just just 959 01:20:30,119 --> 01:20:33,359 to kind of keep the ethos of the radio station up, because the ethos 960 01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:40,119 of the radio station is very much about playing the music you don't particularly hear 961 01:20:40,199 --> 01:20:45,520 too much on mainstream radio, right and and and try and say, you 962 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:55,159 know, here in the UK and we've got in terms of terrestrial FM and 963 01:20:55,359 --> 01:20:59,760 DAB radio stations, there aren't that many, and they tend to play the 964 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,439 same commercial stuff. They forget about, you know, hang on. I 965 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:09,159 grew up with I grew up with the sex pistols, I grew up with 966 01:21:09,199 --> 01:21:13,159 a clash, I grew up with you know some you know, Faith No 967 01:21:13,359 --> 01:21:16,000 More. And I grew up with Guns and Roses and you know, all 968 01:21:16,039 --> 01:21:20,439 those kind of bands and Navana and Foo Fighters and they're just not getting the 969 01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:26,760 same level of airplay as as the commercial stuff, and so the focus of 970 01:21:27,119 --> 01:21:31,760 the station is to promote that kind of music and also kind of promote, 971 01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,880 you know, the unsigned artists. And it's not just British artists we play. 972 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,920 We play, we play artists literally from all over the world, you 973 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,880 know, Canada, US, Europe, South America, Australia. It doesn't 974 01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,720 matter where you're from. You find the website and if you've got, you 975 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:54,720 know, a well produced track, we'll play it. Yeah, as simple 976 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:59,439 as that. Of course. I was just gonna ask you, Jake, 977 01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:01,319 what what is the AB for our listeners who don't know? I mean, 978 01:22:01,359 --> 01:22:05,439 I kind of have an idea, but sorry, it's digital audio broadcast, 979 01:22:06,119 --> 01:22:12,439 okay, so that yeah, so that's strictly I'm no, no, no, 980 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,319 no here and well I'm sure you've got it in the US. You 981 01:22:15,359 --> 01:22:23,760 know, in the UK we're moving away from um FM and everything is broadcast 982 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,640 digitally, so if you've got a digital radio, you just pick it up 983 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,880 on that, gotcha, gotcha. Okay, We're not quite there as a 984 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,960 radio station at the moment, but that's where we're heading. Oh okay, 985 01:22:34,159 --> 01:22:39,600 gotcha. Yeah, So Radio Wig WIMS is online but will eventually be on 986 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:44,640 the AB. Yeah. Well that's that's the plan. You know, it's 987 01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:53,359 expensive. Yeah. And when I say if it is massively expensive, yeah, 988 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,600 you're talking to go full on with it. You're talking of you know, 989 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,359 hundreds of thousands of puns, dollars whatever currency you want to put in 990 01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:04,800 to stay on air for a year, so that you know, you would 991 01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:10,600 need a hell of a lot of advertising and sponsorship do that. But you 992 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,319 know, you know, why not dream big? Not dream big? Absolutely? 993 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,359 And and for terrestrial radio, so you have FM, do you also 994 01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:23,600 have AM there? Yeah, but that's that's kind of dying out. And 995 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,920 it's almost died out completely. I mean, most most new cars that are 996 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:34,640 manufactured will what don't even have they they they're pretty much all dab radios in 997 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:40,920 your car. Oh okay, gotcha, gotcha? Um you know, I 998 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,199 mean I you know, I don't I don't have a radio. I have 999 01:23:43,279 --> 01:23:48,319 smart speakers. That's all dab. Yeah yeah, yeah, um, god, 1000 01:23:48,359 --> 01:23:54,039 bless technology. It's it's just yeah. So it's always a double edged 1001 01:23:54,079 --> 01:24:00,039 thought, right right. Um, So, what's what's the current trajectory for 1002 01:24:00,079 --> 01:24:03,760 you, Jacob? Do you have new music that you're working on. Well. 1003 01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:09,159 Well, like I said, I've just released a new album thirteen tracks, 1004 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:14,279 UM. Couple of a couple of reworkings, some old demos that I 1005 01:24:14,359 --> 01:24:18,600 did back in back in the nineties, UM and just revisited the songs and 1006 01:24:19,159 --> 01:24:27,000 re recorded them in my little home studio here um. And a handful of 1007 01:24:27,159 --> 01:24:32,439 brand new tracks, some co written with with lyric writers, some that I've 1008 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,760 just put together on your own. UM. And you know, I'm quite 1009 01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:42,119 proud of it. I'm thinking. The thing is, with where I am 1010 01:24:42,199 --> 01:24:45,640 in the music industry, releasing singles doesn't really do much for me. So 1011 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,920 it's about releasing an album and shouting as loud as you can about it, 1012 01:24:48,199 --> 01:24:53,279 right and yeah, and just hope other people to you know, pick up 1013 01:24:53,319 --> 01:24:56,720 on it and send individual tracks to radio stations and hope they play it. 1014 01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:00,560 And then you sit back, put your feet up on the desk and watched 1015 01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:06,640 twenty twenty seven cents come in, right. I know, I know it's 1016 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:12,119 frustrating. Um, Well, Jake, I really appreciate you being here with 1017 01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:15,760 us today, and I'm gonna play in a moment, we'll let you go, 1018 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:20,319 and then I'm gonna close out the segment with my Nila Tequila is Nila 1019 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:26,560 Nila. How do you say that, Neila Tequila? It's um. This 1020 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:34,079 song came from a nickname I gave one of my co workers. And her 1021 01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:40,640 name's Nila Patel. Okay. She's such a lovely person and and we have 1022 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,760 a little bit of a giggle together when we work together, and so I 1023 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:48,000 gave her this nickname with Neila, Neila Tequila. And then one day she's 1024 01:25:48,039 --> 01:25:51,199 just turned around, he say, why didn't you write a song about me? 1025 01:25:53,119 --> 01:25:57,279 And so I came up with Neila Tequila. Oh, and it's it's 1026 01:25:57,359 --> 01:26:00,760 it's actually not about her. Yeah, it's just using the name that I 1027 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,640 gave her to create create this. This the lyrics to this song. And 1028 01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:09,119 again again it's it's not in a dissimilar vein to come and get me. 1029 01:26:09,239 --> 01:26:14,880 It's it's kind of like a bass driven rock song. Yeah, yeah, 1030 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,000 which meant to be fun. It's meant to be a fun tune. Now 1031 01:26:18,039 --> 01:26:20,720 it's really good and like you said, you know, the basses drive it. 1032 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,920 What was her reaction when you presented the song to her when she heard 1033 01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:32,159 it the first time, giggled a lot. Yeah, and she actually she 1034 01:26:32,279 --> 01:26:36,000 actually then went home and played it to her husband and her kids. Yeah, 1035 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:40,920 like I have to say, it's not about you, It's just about 1036 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,960 the nickname I've given you, and it's trying to so look, yeah, 1037 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,960 it was taken in the faith it was made. So yeah, yeah, 1038 01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:56,439 excellent, excellent. Yeah, husband isn't hunting me down right right? Yes, 1039 01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,880 we don't want to. We don't want to cause any trouble. Well, 1040 01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:02,239 but you know, when you're a rock star, these things happen, 1041 01:27:02,399 --> 01:27:09,680 Jake, these things happening. Well yeah, well um no, no, 1042 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,520 no, no, no legacy babies out there like Mick Jagger. I'm afras 1043 01:27:15,399 --> 01:27:18,199 I know of anyway, right right, right, all right, well very 1044 01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:20,279 good, all right, So we're gonna play that in a moment. And 1045 01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:25,119 Jake, what do you want our listeners to know in terms of how to 1046 01:27:25,239 --> 01:27:28,680 keep up with what you're doing online? Where to find your music? A 1047 01:27:29,159 --> 01:27:32,159 website you want to plug or social media or anything? Yeah? Yeah, 1048 01:27:32,199 --> 01:27:36,439 sure, I mean, if if you're remotely interested, I have a website 1049 01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:44,680 which is quite simply www dot Jake Dollery dot co dot uk. Um. 1050 01:27:45,319 --> 01:27:48,199 I'm all over over YouTube, so just look up Jake Dollery. I'm all 1051 01:27:48,279 --> 01:27:53,880 over social media. You can follow me at Twitter, on at JD Rocks 1052 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:59,760 sixty six. That's j D r o c K s sixty six. I'm 1053 01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,000 on Instagram, I'm on Facebook. So yeah, if you want to check 1054 01:28:03,039 --> 01:28:05,159 me out, look me up, send me a message, say hi. 1055 01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:10,279 I'll reply, as long as you're not rude to me. And yeah, 1056 01:28:11,119 --> 01:28:14,079 yeah, I don't. I'm not into all that. Yeah, that kind 1057 01:28:14,079 --> 01:28:15,079 of stuff, but yeah, yeah no, and you know, and and 1058 01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:19,640 and if you if you you're fancy tuning into my radio show that that that 1059 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:24,039 goes out three times a week, and that's all mentioned on my website, 1060 01:28:24,319 --> 01:28:28,760 I won't overplug that. And yeah, I'm just putting out there. If 1061 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:30,760 you like it, great, it's a bonus to me. Thank you for 1062 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,319 your love. If you don't, that's all right, there's plenty of other 1063 01:28:33,399 --> 01:28:36,840 music to listen to. You absolutely well. I like it a lot. 1064 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,760 I think it's great. And we're gonna we're gonna play this track in a 1065 01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:45,680 moment. Manila Tequila and Jake Dollery, thank you so much for joining us 1066 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,319 today, my friend. You've been generous with your time. We will do 1067 01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:51,800 this again in the future. And yeah, and for having me in a 1068 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,560 real pleasure. Thank you. And by the way, I'm very happy that 1069 01:28:55,640 --> 01:29:00,239 we were your first American radio interview. That's very cool. So you can 1070 01:29:00,319 --> 01:29:05,520 claim that's your claim to fame from now, that's right, that's right, 1071 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:09,199 all right, Jake, We're gonna let you go and I'm gonna hit this 1072 01:29:09,239 --> 01:29:12,600 track. Thank you again, my friend. It's been a real pleasure. 1073 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,359 Thank you so much. Hello to everybody out there in Manchester, Massachusetts. 1074 01:29:15,399 --> 01:29:18,840 I love you all close. But okay, Jake, thank you, bye 1075 01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:24,920 bye, thank you all right, very good, Jake Dolery. Actually we're 1076 01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,479 in for those listening online who might not know we're actually in Manchester, New 1077 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,720 Hampshire. But but I think there is a Manchester, Massachusetts. That's okay, 1078 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,479 though, we won't hold that against him. Um, there's you know, 1079 01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,600 he's where the original Manchester was, Manchester, England. Well, I 1080 01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:42,000 don't know what city he's in, but there's Manchester is a very common name. 1081 01:29:42,039 --> 01:29:44,800 There's a whole bunch of There's a Manchester, Connecticut. There's a I 1082 01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,399 don't know, there's there's like h seventeen Manchesters. Okay, probably not that 1083 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:53,680 many. That's all right though, but let's give this a listen again. 1084 01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:57,880 Another great track. I love his music so much and uh, very interesting 1085 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,000 guy too, so I really enjoyed speaking with But this is my Nila Tequila 1086 01:30:01,159 --> 01:30:04,119 from Jake Dolery. We're gonna give this a spin and then we will be 1087 01:30:04,239 --> 01:30:08,720 back with the balance of our show today on Matt Connerton Unleashed. There is 1088 01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:13,960 more to come. But again I love that driving baseline. This is good 1089 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:40,000 stuff, my Neila Tequila Jake Dolery right here on Matt Connerton Unleashed. Learning 1090 01:30:50,039 --> 01:31:04,720 I wasn't true, but it was as she sixty to heel an incasional bee 1091 01:31:06,119 --> 01:31:25,399 and now I believe. Oh, he left the bar room with for a 1092 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:39,880 rive. I never felt so live with the cutest smile she looked into my 1093 01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:55,159 eyes. Fetch slips between that chap my face all incasion, believe, and 1094 01:31:55,399 --> 01:32:46,760 now I believe. I could never ever spend the whatever I did, it 1095 01:32:47,199 --> 01:33:01,439 wasn't so well through the light all the way till the I gave old trunche 1096 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:27,920 gole in sessional deer. 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Today is sorry 1125 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:17,880 Tuesday, August one, two thousand twenty three, As we cruise into our 1126 01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:21,000 final segment today on the show, but I do want to think of course, 1127 01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:27,800 we just talked with Jake Dolery and just I love his music. We 1128 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,640 are going to close out today's show with one more of his songs. He's 1129 01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,800 got a track called no More Hearts to Steal, another great song. Really 1130 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,960 really like him a lot. He was skyping in from the UK and great 1131 01:37:38,279 --> 01:37:42,319 talking with him. Also. Of course, earlier in the show, we 1132 01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:46,159 talked with Chris Stein from the band from Starlight. They are going to be 1133 01:37:46,239 --> 01:37:50,239 playing in Allston, mass tomorrow night. They're from Albany, New York, 1134 01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:54,079 but they're gonna be in Allston, just about an hour south of here. 1135 01:37:54,359 --> 01:37:57,720 Wanted to promote that show and really loved talking with him as well. Another 1136 01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,920 great band. So a couple of musical guests today. It's a very very 1137 01:38:00,039 --> 01:38:03,199 fun show. We do have a few minutes left in today's show. By 1138 01:38:03,239 --> 01:38:08,000 the way, we have some big breaking news, although not entirely surprising. 1139 01:38:08,039 --> 01:38:10,760 We'll get to that. But if you'd like to get in with a call, 1140 01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:14,760 and I would suggest doing so, don't wait, don't wait until the 1141 01:38:15,239 --> 01:38:17,039 end of the show. We're almost out of show already. Six ZO three 1142 01:38:17,279 --> 01:38:20,640 two five oh six O seven is a studio line six zo three two five 1143 01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:25,159 oz six z seven. You can also text me at six one seven nine 1144 01:38:25,199 --> 01:38:28,880 one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. 1145 01:38:29,359 --> 01:38:31,399 You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton dot com. And of course you 1146 01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:35,000 can interact Endo Pine in the Facebook live chat. But the best thing to 1147 01:38:35,039 --> 01:38:39,199 do so that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet tones is to give us 1148 01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:42,640 a call at six zo three two five h six oh seven six zo three 1149 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,880 two five six o seven. By the way, in the Facebook live chat, 1150 01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:47,640 I see Lewis Tivy is in there. We talked to him. Your 1151 01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:51,319 ears must have been burning, sir. We talked to him last week. 1152 01:38:51,359 --> 01:38:57,039 And other great artists from the UK really enjoy speaking of the UK. Also, 1153 01:38:57,079 --> 01:39:00,119 our friend Alex Whiteley is in the Facebook live chat. Alex says only 1154 01:39:00,159 --> 01:39:03,239 just got here. Work has been busy. Hope you're all well. I'll 1155 01:39:03,319 --> 01:39:08,680 call in in the week when we have more time to chat. Yes. 1156 01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,640 Absolutely. By the way, on tomorrow's show, I should mention too a 1157 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:17,199 quick programming note, So usually on Wednesdays we do a segment in the first 1158 01:39:17,239 --> 01:39:21,239 hour with Eric Pilcher, my favorite conservative as I like to call him, 1159 01:39:21,239 --> 01:39:26,119 which is kind of morphed into becoming the name of the segment itself. But 1160 01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:32,119 Eric will not be able to join us this week unfortunately, so so we'll 1161 01:39:32,159 --> 01:39:34,680 have the first hour open to take call so, Alex, if you want 1162 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:39,159 to skype in during the first hour tomorrow, we'll be wide open. In 1163 01:39:39,239 --> 01:39:42,479 the second hour, we do have a musical guest joining us in studio. 1164 01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:46,319 I hope I'm saying this correctly. Honky Gabacho is going to come in and 1165 01:39:46,399 --> 01:39:50,119 play live in studio for us in the second hour tomorrow. That will be 1166 01:39:50,199 --> 01:39:55,199 our musical guests, So looking forward to that. But the first hour will 1167 01:39:55,239 --> 01:40:00,359 be sort of a open for whoever would like to join us in call in 1168 01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:04,319 or skype or whatever it maybe. By the way, Mike from Queen City 1169 01:40:04,399 --> 01:40:09,039 Cabinetry is in the Facebook live chat. Mike uh not only one of our 1170 01:40:09,039 --> 01:40:11,920 great sponsors here at WMH ninety five point three, but one of our co 1171 01:40:12,119 --> 01:40:18,840 hosts on Friday nights for retro Spectrum Radio with Paul c and Mike says Manchester, 1172 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:23,720 Tibet, which is a little bit inside, but Jake Jake did get 1173 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:28,279 the state run. Our friend Jake Dolery. He said, uh, Manchester, 1174 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:33,199 Massachusetts and close close enough. It's still New England. But there are 1175 01:40:33,279 --> 01:40:38,920 many manchesters was saying earlier, and uh, Mike said, Manchester, Tibet. 1176 01:40:39,079 --> 01:40:41,119 But again that's a little bit inside. But if you know, you 1177 01:40:41,199 --> 01:40:44,560 know, if paulc is listening, he knows. Oh. Speaking of which, 1178 01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:45,760 by the way, if you haven't had a chance to check it out, 1179 01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:47,800 I don't know if it's in the archive yet or not. Actually, 1180 01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:55,960 but Friday night, last Friday's Retro Spectrum Radio, a lot less music than 1181 01:40:56,039 --> 01:40:59,199 usual, a lot more talk because we had an incredible guest in studio. 1182 01:41:00,159 --> 01:41:03,479 Paul knows this gentleman all the way back to when they were much much younger 1183 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:09,600 at the Connecticut School of Broadcasting, a gentleman named Aaron Sadovski who's a very 1184 01:41:10,399 --> 01:41:15,680 successful producer and director and just had a ton of great stories. The stories 1185 01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:20,039 he told off air were even better. But really loved meeting Aaron and what 1186 01:41:20,159 --> 01:41:25,319 a great guy. And I hope oh Paul is able to get him back 1187 01:41:25,359 --> 01:41:30,319 on the show soon because that was a lot of fun. Mike agrees, 1188 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:35,479 Yes, it was awesome, all right, wow, Yeah, big breaking 1189 01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:39,560 news before almost out of time, although, like I said, I did 1190 01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:44,000 offer a hint that it was predictable. So if you don't know already, 1191 01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:50,920 media dot Com reporting breaking Trump indicted on charges related to efforts to overturn twenty 1192 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:57,560 twenty election. It says here former President Donald Trump was indicted today on four 1193 01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:02,600 counts stemming from special counsel Jackson Smith's investigation into the January sixth Capital riot and 1194 01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,760 larger effort to overturn the results of the twenty twenty presidential election. A CNN 1195 01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:13,920 reported Trump's lawyers were told to prepare for as much last Thursday morning during a 1196 01:42:14,039 --> 01:42:18,960 meeting with federal prosecutors. Is that what Trump meant when he said the meeting 1197 01:42:19,079 --> 01:42:25,720 had been productive. This would mark the second time Trump has been indicted on 1198 01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:30,319 federal charges this year, and the third criminal indictment he's faced in as many 1199 01:42:30,399 --> 01:42:33,880 months. Another federal grand jury indicted Trump on charges related to his mishandling of 1200 01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:38,600 classified documents in June, while a grand jury in New York indicted him for 1201 01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:43,279 a falsification of business records in March. Oh By the way, Jake Dollery's 1202 01:42:43,319 --> 01:42:45,119 in the Facebook live chat says, I'm sorry to all the people of Manchester, 1203 01:42:45,239 --> 01:42:48,199 New Hampshire. Love peace and keep rocking to you all. Yeah, 1204 01:42:48,359 --> 01:42:51,760 no, no need to apologize. Jake loved aving you on my friend and 1205 01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:56,279 I love your music. So it's all good. And we don't we don't 1206 01:42:56,279 --> 01:43:00,479 take offense here. I mean, you know, it's you know, it's 1207 01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:02,520 New England. We're just all one big thing. No. Actually, some 1208 01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:06,239 people would probably get mad at me for saying that, but no, it's 1209 01:43:06,279 --> 01:43:12,239 all good. Let's see. Although there is a difference between the New Hampshire 1210 01:43:12,279 --> 01:43:15,479 accent and the Massachusetts accent in terms of dropping the rs and so forth, 1211 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:20,760 but we won't get into all that, okay. So it says here another 1212 01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:25,159 federal grand jury indicted Trump on charges. Oh no, I read that already. 1213 01:43:25,319 --> 01:43:28,680 Sorry, let me go down here. Even before the meeting between his 1214 01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:33,159 attorney and Smith's team on Thursday, Trump had indicated that he believed he would 1215 01:43:33,199 --> 01:43:41,239 be indicted. In a truth social post on July eighteen, he posted this 1216 01:43:43,079 --> 01:43:48,640 deranged Jack Smith, the prosecutor with Joe Biden coj sent a letter again it 1217 01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:55,079 was Sunday night, stating that I am a target of the January sixth grand 1218 01:43:55,119 --> 01:44:00,239 jury investigation in giving me a very short four days to report to the grand 1219 01:44:00,279 --> 01:44:06,159 jury, which almost always mean means and arrest and indictment. Nothing like this 1220 01:44:06,319 --> 01:44:11,720 has ever happened in our country before, or even close. That was his 1221 01:44:12,159 --> 01:44:14,600 By the way, that's true, nothing like this has ever happened before. 1222 01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:18,720 There's reasons for that week though in fairness, by the way, pet this 1223 01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,119 has nothing to do with how I feel about Trump, although if you're a 1224 01:44:21,159 --> 01:44:26,000 regular listener you don't know. I'm not a fan. But a big pet 1225 01:44:26,039 --> 01:44:30,560 peeve that I have, but I have a few of them. Whenever anybody 1226 01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:36,159 writes something and they capitalize random letters that should not be capitalized for no apparent 1227 01:44:36,239 --> 01:44:41,760 reason, it really irks me. Something about that really bothers me. I 1228 01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:45,760 don't know why the word country is capitalized. I don't know why the word 1229 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:53,399 arrest is capitalized. I don't know why the word indictment is capitalized. Grand 1230 01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:59,039 jury is capitalized, but that's appropriate. But some of these other words, 1231 01:44:59,039 --> 01:45:01,000 I don't know why they're capital lies. That just bothers me. It's a 1232 01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:06,359 pet peeve. But there you go. We knew that this was probably in 1233 01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:11,560 the works, and here we are. Let's see, that's from media. 1234 01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:20,479 I think, oh, what's this CNN Dot Com has some more details here. 1235 01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:29,520 Again, this is breaking news if you're just joining us CNN's reporting Donald 1236 01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,399 Trump has been indicted. Okay, we know that part. I'm gonna skip 1237 01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:36,880 down because we're running out of time here. So the indictment states, oh, 1238 01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:41,439 there go, the sirens happens once a show. The indictment states, 1239 01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:45,279 quote, shortly after election day, the defendant also pursued unlawful means of discounting 1240 01:45:45,399 --> 01:45:50,760 legitimate votes and subverting the election results unquote. The newest case against Trump strikes 1241 01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:57,640 it what as what's seen as the former president's most serious betrayal of his constitutional 1242 01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:00,720 duties, when his efforts to remain in the White House after losing the twenty 1243 01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:04,239 twenty election sought to undermine US democracy and the long held American tradition of a 1244 01:46:04,279 --> 01:46:10,640 peaceful transfer of presidential power. The plot to overturn the twenty twenty election shattered 1245 01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:13,560 presidential norms. Okay, we know all that. Okay, let's get to 1246 01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:20,600 this part quickly because we're up against the clock here. The four accounts are 1247 01:46:21,359 --> 01:46:29,319 conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction 1248 01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:38,119 of an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights. Smith's move 1249 01:46:38,239 --> 01:46:42,840 to bring charges will test whether criminal justice system can be used to hold Trump 1250 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:46,319 to account for his post election conduct after he was acquitted in his impeachment trial 1251 01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:51,119 related to his actions that day. The indictment is the second time in two 1252 01:46:51,159 --> 01:47:01,159 months. Okay, we know that already skipping down. Oh, this isn't 1253 01:47:01,279 --> 01:47:05,319 the part that I was interested in. There was something about a witness. 1254 01:47:06,319 --> 01:47:11,640 Maybe I clicked the wrong link. Let me go back here. There was 1255 01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:16,000 something about a witness breaking news. Trump approves summons. Oh sorry, judge 1256 01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:24,680 approves summons. Let see if I can get to this quickly. Uh, 1257 01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:33,319 nope, the link, this link keeps bringing me to the wrong place. 1258 01:47:36,359 --> 01:47:43,920 Now because there's a lot of questions about a witness whom the I forget his 1259 01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,439 name now? Is at OLIVERA? Something to OLIVERA. Oh de OLIVERA. 1260 01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:50,640 I think it is his last name. The property manager at Marlago who it 1261 01:47:50,880 --> 01:48:02,800 is suspected that that he may have flipped against Trump. Oh. Other breaking 1262 01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:09,960 news, completely unrelated. But Fitch has downgraded the US debt rating. Oh, 1263 01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:15,520 might have to look at that tomorrow. Let's see, all right, 1264 01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:17,840 we gotta we are out of time we need to wrap up, so well, 1265 01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,119 this is a big, big, big news though. All right again, 1266 01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:26,439 thank you so much to Chris Stein from the band from Starlight for joining 1267 01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:28,600 us in the first hour, and of course in the second hour, the 1268 01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:30,640 great Jake Dollery. We are going to close out with one more of his 1269 01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,479 songs. But if you miss any part of today's show, it will be 1270 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:38,800 up in just a little bit WMH radio dot org and on my website Matt 1271 01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:42,680 Connerton dot com as we do archive all the shows, and thank you, 1272 01:48:43,039 --> 01:48:46,319 thank you everyone who joined us today. If you missed um oh, I'm 1273 01:48:46,359 --> 01:48:49,119 sorry. I was going to say today is Tuesday, which means if you 1274 01:48:49,199 --> 01:48:54,840 are listening live on Tuesday. Immediately following this show is through the Stage Store 1275 01:48:55,159 --> 01:48:58,920 hosted by the great Rob Dion, and immediately following that, coming up tonight 1276 01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:03,000 at seven pm here on WMH is a replay of Friday Nights Retro Spectrum Radio 1277 01:49:03,079 --> 01:49:05,399 with Police. So again, if you didn't hear it, you want to 1278 01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:10,199 check that out. Great great episode. We had Aaron sadofski And with us, 1279 01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:14,840 and Paul is known Aaron for decades and it was really cool. Get 1280 01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,920 actually it's cool getting to see them together two old friends catching up but also 1281 01:49:17,319 --> 01:49:21,079 just really really fun having Aaron here. What a great guest, So check 1282 01:49:21,199 --> 01:49:25,479 that out. That will be the replay will be tonight at seven, right 1283 01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:28,039 after through the Stage Store with Rob Dan. If, of course, you 1284 01:49:28,079 --> 01:49:31,520 are listening live on Tuesday, and if you're listening to the podcast, well 1285 01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:35,399 never mind. But you can always go back and check out those shows later 1286 01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:39,159 though. They are all archived as I mentioned, and don't forget to be 1287 01:49:39,279 --> 01:49:42,760 back bright and early seven am for the morning show with Peter White. And 1288 01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,079 we will close with this another great track from Jake Dollery. This is called 1289 01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:50,079 no More Hearts to Steal. And that's it. We're out of here. 1290 01:49:50,159 --> 01:50:11,520 I will talk to y'all a little later. By Everybody to Love Love to 1291 01:50:16,119 --> 01:51:15,920 God says why what heartless? Want to I want to live again? I 1292 01:51:16,119 --> 01:51:46,039 want to show WI just wants to be ass