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any further Ado, let's bring on our

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special guest for the evening again.
He hails from the Pacific Northwest and he

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is Adrian. Adrian, thank you
so much for reaching out and joining us

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tonight. Ay, George, thanks
for having Yeah, it's it's it's a

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pleasure to have you and you've reached
out I guess a little over a month

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ago, and you know, we
talked a little bit before the program.

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I think some of the you've been
kind of going down the rabbit holes for

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I guess about seven or eight years
now, and I think your story resonates

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with a lot of people with nine
to eleven. But one of them that

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I don't hear too much that we
discussed before the program was the deceptions of

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Princess Diana, And if folks haven't
really gone down that rabbit hole, I

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think they'd be very interested with some
information in that. But before we get

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started, you know, give us
a moment and introduce yourself to our listeners.

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Yeah, so my name is Adrian
from Seattle area. I grew up

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here originally from California. My family
moved up here when I was young,

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and it was originally where my dad's
from, so he kind of had a

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tie here brought us up here.
But yeah, he was the one that

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actually kind of got me into the
whole conspiratorial mindset. I guess you could

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say. We started watching stuff like
Ancient Aliens and all kinds of like documentaries

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and a History channel stuff like that. He told me about his days when

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he was in the Marines and when
he was younger living up in the Salmon

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Islands. He said that when he
was younger, he actually had a UFO

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sighting. Um, I mean I
when I was younger, I just kind

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of brushed it off like it wasn't
really anything. But you know, over

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time, you know, I mean, all that stuff began to kind of

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come together as something that I wanted
to look into myself. But yeah,

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I mean, I think, but
really kind of kicked off my journey was

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probably around twenty fifteen when my dad
passed. He had cancer and it was

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a little bit too late by the
time he caught it, and I kind

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of spent as many days as I
could with him, almost every other day

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during that one year battle. Um, it's pretty tough to watch, you

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know, somebody so strong kind of
get taken down like that. But it

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just kind of gave me time with
him to kind of speak with him in

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a way where I don't think I
ever did throughout my life. Kind of

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made me appreciate my kids a lot
more and kind of I think what really

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kind of pushed me into the conspiracy
stuff was just one to know the truth

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of things and having kids kind of
gave me this more of a I guess

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you could call it a stake in
the future and kind of wanted to,

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you know, know more about the
world that my kids are going to be

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growing up in and becoming a part
of, you know, because they kids

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are the future and you know,
this is the world they're going to inherit

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um. Yeah, that's yeah,
I think go ahead. I'm sorry,

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God, no, no, I
was just gonna say that's I think that's

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the mantra for a lot of people
in the truth community is once you realize

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how corrupt the system is in the
world we live in, it motivates us

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even more to get to the bottom
of the truth and shine the light on

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things and try to tell others,
hey, you know you're being lied to

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and this isn't like the greatest system
how things are set up and um and

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things of that nature. Yeah,
yeah, definitely, I mean it's it's

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it's weird kind of talking to my
kids about it. I Mean, I

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have a couple of kids that are
young teenagers and they're kind of you know,

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they're very smart kids, and you
know, they don't they don't miss

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much. They pretty much are not
necessarily on board with everything that I'm thinking

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of. But they're very open minded. M they question everything that they learn

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in school, and you know,
they kind of they understand that the public

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school systems kind of you know,
it's just an indoctrination system, and you

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know, and I don't blame them
for not wanting to go to school,

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especially with all the shootings and all
the stuff going on these days. I

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mean, they're kind of pushing me
to do a homeschooling and I've been considering

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it. I just I'm not exactly
sure how it at all will work.

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I mean, and I know it's
very different. There's a lot of curriculum

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that you know, is involved with
it that it would be kind of an

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extra job here at home. Yeah, but I mean I do try to

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teach them everything that I do know
because I always tell them, I start

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off every morning, I'll send them
a text while I'm at work. I'll

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start their day with some inspirational quote
or picture or something that I find,

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you know, just to kind of
so when they wake up in the morning

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they got some positive to start their
day. But yeah, I mean,

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they're they're they're kind of looking at
the world with we're very open and discerning

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eyes. That's for sure. That's
great. And I know I actually interviewed

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someone the other day from the from
Washington and they said it is one of

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those states where they make it a
little more difficult. I think he had

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mentioned that you actually have to petition
to the state and justify why you want

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a home school, which you know, you think about everything our country is

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supposed to stand for. That the
otter thought of that is kind of ridiculous.

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It's you know, we mentioned often
that, Um, it's it's it's

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important, and it's awesome. The
way that you run things and challenging them

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and giving them inspirational quotes. That's
that's fantastic and that's something that I should

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start doing myself. But um,
you know, molding children's minds and it's

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it's it's just very interesting how slowly
and surely the state is trying to take

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control of everything and they want you
to ask permission to do things like educate

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your child. It's just bizarro world, isn't it. Yeah, it's crazy.

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We got to ask permission for everything. I mean, you got to

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ask permission to go fishing and to
you know, drive our cars and everything.

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I mean, it's it's pretty crazy, you know. I just I

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never really paid attention to the stuff. And then, um, I know

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my dad would kind of talk about
things in that manner, but I never

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really kind of thought about it.
I guess being a kid, I didn't

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really think of the whole adult responsibility
and kind of world, and it was

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just kind of you know, obviously, they don't teach you any of the

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important stuff in school growing up,
so I mean it's just a lot of

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stuff. You know, like most
people kind of learn all the important things

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in life, you know, once
they're out of high school and trying to

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navigate the world. But that's why
I'm trying to give my kids the proper

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you know, resources in mindset,
you know, early on. That way,

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they can think about life a little
bit more of a headstart, I

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guess than I had. Um.
Yeah, I mean in plus, my

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my my family growing up, I
mean, we grew up completely you know,

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atheist, never went to church or
anything like that, you know.

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My my in particular, I would
say a couple of people in my immediate

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family are very very left leaning,
and I mean regardless of political stuff.

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It's just it's just crazy to me
to kind of associate and I you know,

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keep that ideology, you know,
with a particular political parties just you

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know, bizarre to me. Uh, you know, just to be open

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minded. I think I think the
majority of people are just either just left

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or just right of center. And
uh, but you know, the extremes

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can get pretty crazy, especially up
here in Seattle area. I mean I

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would consider Washington State more so like
a blue city in a red state.

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I mean it's it's it's a definitely
different up here, that's for sure.

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Yeah. And I think that goes
just uh for for a lot of states.

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Here in Delaware, we have two
cities, Wilmington and Dover, that

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are I guess you would call blue. But I mean everybody in the two

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counties, uh, you know,
south of there, we're all uh you

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know, it's it's rural. We're
all chicken farmers and and so on and

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so forth. And you know,
I was that guy too. I was

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on the Trump train and we were
going to arrest Hillary. And it is

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very Sometimes politics can be very um, I don't know what the word is,

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but you know you can get all
caught up in it. It's very

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divisive, which is you know what
at the end of the day. That's

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what it's all about. I mean, three hundred and thirty million people,

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two parties, and even on social
media, if I comment on something,

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they automatically assume I'm a I'm a
card carrying Republican and I've become just completely

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a political and I just don't even
bother to vote anymore because it's just another

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scam and I don't approve of the
current system and I don't I just don't

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want to be a part of it. And it's just funny how people assume,

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well, if you're if you're not
with us, and then you must

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be with them, And that's completely
goes to prove how how brainwashed and how

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indoctrinated and how honestly, I guess
you got to give credit where credit is

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due. They've perfected this system and
they got everybody hook line and sinker,

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right, Yeah, yeah, for
sure. I mean it's crazy too that

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you mentioned that the whole non voting. I don't think I voted since uh

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was a bush and carry, I
mean, and that was I remember going

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to the polls with my dad and
I remember him kind of leaning over to

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me and he's like, who are
you voting for? And Uh. I

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just was like, I have no
idea. I mean I was I think

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at the time, maybe I'd just
turned eighteen, and uh, I mean

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I didn't look into this stuff at
that time. I mean I wish I

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did. UM. And one of
the craziest things too about that time,

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that's something that really stuck out to
me was, Um, John Kerry was

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in Antarctica, right. That was
that was very very weird. I mean

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at that time I didn't even pay
attention to Antarctica at all, and that

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just kind of like highlighted for me, like kind of brought that to the

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forefront, like what is it with
Antarctica? Um, But yeah, Antarctica.

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I think for me, UM,
it's like top three like most important

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things I think when it comes to
flat Earth, especially like I would say

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Antarctica, UM, in the North
Pole, Um, those those to me

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are the most intriguing. UM.
Especially the way the kind of you know

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paradigm of flat Earth, how it
changes everything and everything just kind of being

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drawn to the center and then having
you know, South being in every direction

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out word. UM. I felt
like you know, just every like sci

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fi movie or any movie in particular, you know that kind of depicted outer

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space. It just kind of like
it totally changed it to where your mindset

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goes towards like distant lands. And
I mean that could even open up a

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whole genre of whole new sci fi
movies, right, But yeah, I

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just you know, I thought about
that stuff at the time as far as

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Anartica, how it was like somewhere
that we've rarely you know, rarely you

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know, explored, And uh,
it's just been the biggest mystery for me

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for for a long time, since
I was young. Yeah, and I

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don't think it's a coincidence that they
keep it off limits to keep us away.

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And it's not like we could um
ourselves, you know, be able

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to put something together. But obviously, um we could in this day and

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age with technology, we could get
a group of people together and fish our

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money together and go down there and
make things happen. But once again,

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and it's funny when you look at
the Antarctica Treaty, all these countries that

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were supposedly at or and can't stand
Russia, China, we're all, we're

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all okay with space and Antarctica,
but everything else we're we're fighting about,

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right, Yeah, I know.
And then that map too, like the

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the un map. I mean,
it's just it's just in plain sight.

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I mean, there's I mean,
when I first started getting going down the

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flighter and stuff, obviously it was
kind of like, you know, it

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was one of those things where it's
just already ingreened in your mind, where

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it's just the stupid thing that's been
kind of pushed to make it seem like

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it's just you know, just dismissive, like like, oh, that's already

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been you know proven. You know
that's stupid, that's old um. But

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you know, obviously, you know, going down that that rabbit hole,

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when you first get into it,
you know, you started learning more and

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more were about it, and it
just kind of opens your mind to like

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the possibility. And then once you
start learning some of the facts that totally

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disprove you know, the whole globe
model, just you know, it's very

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mind blowing, very very eye opening
changes everything. I mean, I mean,

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and not to say that we have
any real concrete evidence of exactly what

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it looks like, but I mean
there's so many facts and red flags that

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just point to that this is a
much more probable, you know, explanation

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for things. I mean, the
nasaid deception and all the globe stuff is

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just so you know, it's so
it's so fake. It's so obvious now

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that like it's hard to like even
realize how how you know, convinced you

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know, everybody was. Um It's
it's weird too, because I think that

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COVID definitely kickstarted that, you know
a lot of a lot of people kind

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of like had time to sit and
think, you know, instead of going

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to the daily grind and work and
everything, and it gave people a chance

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to kind of actually, you know, ponder things. And I think that

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helped a lot, you know,
with the whole mass awakening, because I

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mean I've seen so many people come
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and you know, obviously a lot
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bring it up to like some of
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obviously I was getting kind of shot
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found some friends here and there that
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some friends have just kind of like
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my family too, Like my wife, you know, at first was like

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what the hell are you talking about? You know, and then I care

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to show her some stuff, and
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she grew up religious, and I
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of ties with you know, religion
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I showed her like the uh Sean
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you know, obviously pushed over the
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it. I mean I got he's
put out some great films, and um,

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you know that that's just you know, I look forward to each one

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that he puts out, you know, every episode that you put out.

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and stuff. I'm mostly just while
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in, I'm listening to my podcast. I listened all years, um like

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Tinfoil Hat, Mark Steves, My
family thinks some crazy legit BA one on

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one great deception John Monday. And
then as soon as I came across like

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Dave white Stuff. I mean,
man, I was searching his name and

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it. Um. But yeah,
I mean it's just it's it's it's no,

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there's no going back back. I
mean, once you see the truth

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is just like a white switch was
like flipped on a dark room than you

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really see it. Yeah, there
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changes. That's the incredible thing.
It really changes the way you live.

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And for me, it was a
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before, I was a big sports
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fell to the bottom. I could
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saying there's anything wrong with it.
I'm just saying how it affected me.

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But you're right, you see everything
differently. When you're watching a movie,

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you're busy looking at the background,
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thirty three, Look there's a globe. It just changes everything, how you

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act, how you think. A
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and touch on before we go a
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for all the folks who are still, you know, invested in politics,

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if you and I'm so glad you
mentioned this because I have at my other

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podcast, I'm going to be doing
an episode on this Gentleman very soon.

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That two thousand and four election was
the epitome of of making people believe that

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you have a choice. Because both
John Kerry and George Bush we're Skull and

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Bone members. So again, it's
it's them wanting you to think that you

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have a choice. It's them wanting
you to think that. These guys can't

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stand each other, and you know, they're on different spectrums of of ideology,

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and the fact that the matter is, uh, those guys are two

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peas in the pods. They're Luciferians, and they do not have our best

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interest at heart. So and even
casting a vote for quote, the lesser

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evil doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And

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that whole the Skull and Bones stuff. I mean, listening to Mark on

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his podcast and it's just, you
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this stuff. And then I mean
it's just everything kind of all correlates,

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and you know, it's just very
very eye opening to kind of to see

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it all connect. I mean,
the dogs are not so much connecting.

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They're like right next to each other
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think that that's like one of my
one of my favorite ones listened to.

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I know, he just recently had
a Sean Hitler on there as well as

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uh tinfall had they both had had
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I know that they've been kind of
a skeptical of you know, the

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whole flatter stuff, but you know, once he came on, you could

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tell that their their minds were definitely
changing on it um and that's like,

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it's it's cool here because you know, those are obviously two very big podcasts

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in the conspiracy of the World,
and you know, for them to kind

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of consider it, it's gonna make
a out more people because there's people out

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there that will consider all kinds of
wild conspiracies, but you know, when

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it comes to flat to Earth,
it's like they won't touch it. And

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it's just it's crazy to me considering
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available for it and how Yeah,
there's literally people out there and I'm not

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again I'm not judging people, but
there's people who believe that birds are fake,

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they're they're cia drones, but that
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at least putting it in the back
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still a stigma within the truth community. And I think again, if you're

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a truther and you say, hey, question everything except the fact that we're

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on a ball spinning at a thousand
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through space at twenty three point six, you know, you know all the

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numbers and four and a half billion
years just hurtling through space. But everything

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else is a lie, um,
you know. And I get the fact

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how the programming works at something that's
been at the forefront, Like the first

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two things you're taught as a child
is, you know, some guy comes

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down from the North poland gives everybody
presence on the twenty fourth and we're on

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a ball and there's X amount of
planets, and you know, most children

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have either in their crib one of
those things hanging above their crib with all

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the planets, or they have that
little planetarium with the lights shining on their

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ceiling. I know my children did
when they were growing up. So it's

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it's really and again everything from TV
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most of at least don On elementary
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had a globe in it. So
it's very brilliant. Um the way that

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they've used these Bernasian tactics to make
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yeah, I mean and definitely too. And and they the way they

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make it too, Like the way
they they kind of demonize certain things like

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the whole word, you know,
conspiracy theorists and flat earther and stuff.

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They give it this negative connotation where, you know, you like makes people

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don't even want to like, you
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it, because then they would be
like outcasted. And uh, you know,

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it's just you know, I think
that's kind of slowly deteriorating. It's

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still pretty prevalent, but I mean
I feel like it's getting chipped away right

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now, just considering like how many
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the truth. And I mean how
sloppy they've been getting with a lot of

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the stuff. I mean, even
though like the UFO stuff, the Blue

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Beam stuff that's coming out, it's
just it's so they're just they seem like

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they're letting their guard down and they're
just you know, not doing a very

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good job of hiding the truth.
I mean, not that they ever did,

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really. I mean, they kind
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our faces. But I mean it
seems like lately it's just been like this

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clown show and uh, you know, it's just helping helping people wake up,

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I think. I mean, I
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would probably really really you know,
kind of break their their mold would be

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like bringing back airships and the dirigibles. I mean, if we had that

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ability to travel long distances on very
little fuel and you know, be able

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to go, hope, as high
as we can like that. I mean

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I feel like that would that would
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milestones for like the whole flat Earth
movement. It's just being able to have

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those back. Yeah, you know
what they would do, They would uh

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you'd have to have a ten thousand
dollars to pay for the license for that.

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They would make it so inconvenient for
us, you know what I mean.

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them doing anything and everything to make
that as hard as possible. But it's

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interesting, you're not the first person
who's mentioned that there's a lot of people

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out there that said, let's bring
back these these airships, these Zeppelin's right,

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and let us travel if you're going
to make us, you know,

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be accountable for paying for a license, for paying for insurances and taxes and

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tolls and everything else. You know
that there's a lot of people like,

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well, we'll just do our own
transportation. And there's companies. I'm sure,

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even if you know you can't afford
it privately, I'm sure there's companies

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out there in a heartbeat. Who
would you know, startups that would have

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your own just like an airport's right, Yeah, and it would be so

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much cheaper because you're not paying for
all the fuel and um yeah, it's

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it's funny how everything it is controlled
by them, including our travels. Um.

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Yeah. So I think probably one
of the one one of the movies

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that I remember as a kid,
um that I just remember it being just

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the movie I watched, um and
never really thought about like that until I

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started looking into the stuff, and
then all of a sudden it would just

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came right back to me. It
is like and the most obvious thing.

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There's a movie called Baron Munchhausen and
uh, it's it's basically I'm trying to

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remember like the one big name in
it. I think it is Robin Williams

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and he's the King of the Moon. Um. And there's a scene where

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they pull up an airship they fill
up basically a hot air balloon that's made

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out of like all the like the
undergarments from like the eighteen hundreds, like

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you know, the women would wear, and they go up and uh,

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it's basically carrying what looks to be
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where they they're like it's like stormy and

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then they crash through what I would
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And then the next thing, you
know is they make it to the

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moon and the scene is like the
boat and all of a sudden it's just

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kind of coasting through water and sand
and uh, and then it just kind

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of banks onto the shore and then
it kind of goes from there. And

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there's a lot of weird little things
here and there in it that are kind

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of a cult and tie you into
like a lot of weird stuff. Um,

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but yeah, it's definitely want to
check out It's it's a little out

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there, um, but there's all
kinds of stuff in it that just you

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know, it's it's pretty cool when
you when you look at it with different

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eyes like that, I guess.
I mean, I watch all kinds of

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movies and cartoons and stuff nowadays,
like with you know, completely new eyes

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and look for different things. You
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and I'm looking at it now.
This was I guess what eighty eight Robin

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Williams even Uma Thurman, this would
have been one of I guess, one

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of her earliest roles. Eric Idolas. My goodness, I don't I think

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I've ever seen this movie. And
it was one of the biggest I guess

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according to this it was one of
the biggest box office bombs ever. It

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cost about I guess forty five million
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but still wants some words for go
ahead, Well now you're good cool.

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I mean, it's just one I
remember from my childhood. Um, it's

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just one of those kind of obscure
movies. The visual effects and the acting

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is kind of wild, but it's
definitely one to check out to look for

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those little Easter eggs, that's for
sure. That's so cool. I'll definitely

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check that out. Um. I
wanted to kind of segue, and you

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had mentioned earlier I think that story
also resonates with a lot of people.

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You know, when COVID you know, kicked off in March, Um,

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some people had an extra two or
three hours a day on their hand because

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they didn't have to get up,
you know, get dressed, getting the

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car, drive to work and a
vice versa. Um, So people were

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finding more time on their hands,
and I've said at nauseum that they overplayed

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their hand with COVID. How did
that affect you and your family and was

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that a part of your awakening as
well? Yeah, yeah, it definitely

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was, because I mean it gave
me time that I didn't have before,

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and you know, it was it
was kind of weird because it was very

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like kind of nerve wracking at first, because so you know, I grew

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up in my family business. When
we do we work with our hands,

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where you know, we do furniture
and stuff, and we had a family

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business for thirty years or thirty something
years, and we just actually had closed

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down our shop and sold it the
business to another company here, and when

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we closed down, they hired is
On and literally a month after we were

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hired on, the lockdown happened.
And uh, I mean it's just it's

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just no telling how things could have
gone, you know, with our family

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business, you know, with the
lockdown and then shutting down businesses. I

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mean, I mean, obviously it
would have been deemed non essential, but

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yeah, it was. It gave
me some time to kind of, uh

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you know, be to myself and
my phone thoughts and uh, you know,

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and I mean I've always kind of
had that though, being able to

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work with my hands like that,
I just have my headphones in, I

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mean, listening to all kinds of
different podcasts. I listened to The Facts

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Hunter long before I found this one, and uh, you know, just

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just tons of them. I would
listen to probably like at least like seven

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or eight a day, just learning
about all kinds of different stuff because I

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was totally into like all the old
world stuff too. Um. But yeah,

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just having that time to kind of
like you know, think about things

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and pay attention to the natural world. I know they try to scare people

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to keep people inside, but I
still want to go out inside anyways.

409
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.599
I mean I was just kind of
look outside, see you know what his

410
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:17.480
outside, and I'd be like,
come on, you guys, and just

411
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:21.039
bring kids and you just go outside
and ride ther bikes and you know,

412
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.599
just just couldn't stay cooped up in
the house. I mean, I know

413
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.799
a lot of people are kind of
scared and wanted to stay inside, but

414
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.519
I just I couldn't do it.
But yeah, it's just, uh,

415
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:34.680
it kind of sparked off like a
new kind of chapter in my life.

416
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:41.240
I guess I created my new business
doing it. I mean I got slammed

417
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:45.240
work too. I mean I got
people mailing me all kinds of stuff to

418
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.319
do because I mean I work on
cars, and I had people sending me

419
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.720
their car parts from all over the
country. And it just kind of kicked

420
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:53.640
off. I guess, like a
lot of people are just stuck at home

421
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:59.319
board and buying stuff online and so
it just it kind of floated us through.

422
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.160
Um. It was definitely a blessing
to be able to have that.

423
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.960
I know, my my wife and
kids, you know, they kind of

424
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.640
took that as an opportunity to kind
of just you know, you know,

425
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.359
from the daily grind up, going
to school and doing all that stuff,

426
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.480
you know, my wife picking up
and dropping off our kids, and so

427
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:23.519
everybody was able to kind of put
their hair down for a bit. But

428
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.000
yeah, I mean I think,
like most people, people kind of got

429
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:30.519
stir crazy just sitting at home and
want to get out. So you know,

430
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.799
I just I just made it a
point to make sure these guys got

431
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.359
outside. That's awesome, Yeah,
because a lot of you know, I

432
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.799
always say I feel bad for the
children, especially, you know, the

433
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:45.400
class of twenty twenty who missed their
prom and all of these things, and

434
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.039
just the constant fear porn that was
put upon the American population, well the

435
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.519
global population really and now as as
time passes by, you know, once

436
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:57.160
again conspiracy theorists or three hundred and
thirty seven wins and zero losses over the

437
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:03.480
last several years. It's just,
uh, it's kind of disappointing. Um.

438
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.799
I always ask anybody anytime I excuse
me, any time I interviewed someone

439
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.519
from your area, I always like
to ask this question because for me,

440
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.640
um, you know, I was
here in the Mid Atlantic region, you

441
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.319
know, thirty five hundred miles away
from where you are. What was that

442
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.880
summer of twenty twenty, like for
you, because that that your region was

443
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.359
pretty busy, and I think that's
where that whole little they created, that

444
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.160
city Chaz and everything else. And
just with all the propaganda that was going

445
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.079
on, how did it affect not
just your family, but your friends and

446
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:40.200
other family members you're you know,
um, I think like people went like

447
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.920
very like kind of polar opposite of
each other. Like either people just you

448
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:47.160
know took it wholeheartedly, you know, as far as what the government was

449
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:52.319
telling them and just went like doll
massed up and hurried up and got the

450
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.880
job. And then many other people
just you know, it's it's definitely not

451
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.720
what it was depicted in the NEOs
um you know, Like I said,

452
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.079
it's like just kind of like the
blue city in a red state. So

453
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.240
I mean, you know, it
was like mainly all that stuff that you

454
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:10.400
saw that was crazy like in the
news was mainly just downtown Seattle and that

455
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:15.119
whole Chaz thing. Man when that
kicked off, I mean I had friends

456
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:20.039
that were walking by there, you
know, going live on Facebook and you

457
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.039
know, kind of showing it what
was really going on. I mean,

458
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:29.400
it was definitely one of those things
where I felt like a lot of people

459
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:35.519
were kind of hoping for something like
that to happen and necessarily like you know,

460
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.599
like the kind of like the people
who frequent and fill up all the

461
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:45.400
tense cities around I felt like that
was like one of the times where I

462
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.519
think they were kind of figuring that
was their time to kind of make something

463
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.039
happen and take a stand. I
mean, I know that they torched like

464
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:58.039
the police station. I mean,
police weren't responding to anything. I mean,

465
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.839
it was pretty wild. It was
like like purge. I mean the

466
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:07.039
I know a few people got pretty
hurt. I want to say I remember

467
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.319
somebody being killed, but I don't
think. I'm not sure. Honestly,

468
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:13.039
it's been I feel like it's been
a while, Like it feels like a

469
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:17.680
whole nother lifetime. Honestly, yeah
it doesn't it so recent. But yeah,

470
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:21.599
there's a lot of crazy stuff going
on. I mean, I just

471
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.680
stayed out of downtown, no real
reason to go down there. I mean,

472
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:29.720
I feel like most people around here
don't really go to downtown anymore,

473
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:34.839
just because of how bad it's gotten. I mean even before covidum. But

474
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.599
yeah, Seattle has always been like
a really cool place to go and check

475
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:42.880
out. But I mean it's it's
just a very very different city now.

476
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.920
I mean it used to be a
place where people were proud to say that

477
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.480
they are from and then now it's
just like this dump and you know,

478
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:54.440
the laws and the people running it
are just totally out of control. I

479
00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:01.240
mean, I think the last good
time I had in downtown Seattle she I

480
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.319
don't know. I mean, I
want to say probably around when like the

481
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:09.880
Sonics were so in town. Wow, that's been a minute. Yeah,

482
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.880
that's uh, yeah, I was
just there. Well, my buddy retired

483
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.239
from JBLM in twenty I guess it
was twenty eighteen, and I went up

484
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:21.599
there and uh, you know,
I got to see Tacoma and Mount Rainier.

485
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.719
It just it is a beautiful area. The weather's fantastic. It's nice

486
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:28.000
and cool, and I was living
in Texas at the time, so I

487
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.519
was glad to get up there and
away from the summer heat. But yeah,

488
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:35.519
it's it's interesting because I was a
big Frasier fan, the TV show,

489
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.039
and I was always you know,
I thought, you know, Seattle

490
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:42.559
was you know, just the most
laid back and it's funny once again and

491
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.760
it was. I'm sure at the
time it was great. I loved the

492
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.280
old Supersonic teams with Gary Camp and
Debt Left, you know, all the

493
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.679
players they had back in the nineties, just the memories. And then you

494
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:57.320
know, you fast forward twenty twenty
five years and it's just uh again,

495
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.920
it's it really appears that, you
know, not just our federal government,

496
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:05.679
but many of the city and state
governments have been hijacked by people who really

497
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:13.599
went to super progressive almost Marxist agenda
pushed across and it was absolutely bizarro world,

498
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.119
you know, with people. I'll
never forget the ladies, I guess

499
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.719
it was in Saint Louis and there
was a building burning behind her, and

500
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:24.519
she's like mostly peaceful, pross most
lets you say, mostly peaceful protests and

501
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:30.360
just I actually remember at night during
that summer of twenty twenty, I would

502
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:35.039
turn on Broadcastify, which has all
the police scanners, and I would,

503
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.960
you know, click on Seattle,
and it was like Fort Apache the Bronx

504
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:43.840
with all the calls. Yeah,
it's it's it's definitely changed so much.

505
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.239
I mean, you know, growing
up here, I mean it's maybe I'm

506
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:52.000
I'm thinking of it from my generation, but it has always been pretty laid

507
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.119
back. I know, my generation
was kind of one of more the kind

508
00:35:55.159 --> 00:36:01.920
of nihilistic kind of mindset and just
kind of didn't really care much about the

509
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.760
future. I mean, and I
feel like that's what kind of changed for

510
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:07.320
me too, because I mean I
could have gone down that same path,

511
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:14.119
but me having me my wife having
kids early on, it just kind of

512
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:17.119
took me down a totally different path. And you know, but I definitely

513
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:22.239
had that whole kind of like nihilistic
mindset of like, you know, there's

514
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:27.960
no future. You know, the
city just kind of everybody had that weird,

515
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:32.159
like kind of anarchist mindset. U. I mean, it's it's you

516
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:39.559
go down there now and it's there's
so many homeless that it's just it's consumed

517
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:43.199
the city. And then this is
just nothing but all these people that are

518
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:46.400
just pushing all these laws to kind
of enable them, and uh, and

519
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:50.639
then it's that's all you're left with. This is just this stark you know,

520
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.400
difference of like people who are very
wealthy you can afford the four thousand

521
00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:00.760
dollars a month one bedroom condo,
and then homeless. I mean, there's

522
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:06.719
like real knowing between Yeah, and
you really hit on something when you mentioned

523
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:08.719
you, you know, nihilistic,
and I think it is kind of a

524
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:14.239
common theme for a lot of folks
when we graduate high school and you know,

525
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:16.400
maybe between that eighteen to twenty five
sweet spot there, I think a

526
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:20.880
lot of us do live for ourselves
and live for the day. You know.

527
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:22.440
Obviously there's a lot of people who
are much wiser than me who may

528
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.679
have had it down. But I
think I was that person too, And

529
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.639
as we get older, we get
wiser, not necessarily smarter, Like I

530
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.440
don't get smarter. I think I
just get wiser because I I've made so

531
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:37.320
many mistakes in my life and that's
kind of where wisdom comes from. But

532
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:42.960
yeah, you hit that right on
the head. It's just you know,

533
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:45.480
I was that way in the eighties
too, and it wasn't until I was

534
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:50.760
twenty five, twenty six when I
started to really figure things out and realize

535
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:52.320
that, you know, I better
be a little more concerned about tomorrow,

536
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.159
George, because I never worried about
tomorrow, George. I let him deal

537
00:37:55.159 --> 00:38:00.199
with the problems. So, yeah, you've hit all great points across the

538
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:05.119
board. I kind of want to
talk a little bit about flat Earth and

539
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:08.719
where that fell in your journey and
what was it that actually allowed you to

540
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:14.400
kind of lower your guard enough to
even look into it. I think,

541
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.119
honestly, I feel like it was
something that I came across on YouTube,

542
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.119
and I think that's kind of the
theme with most people, because I mean,

543
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:23.440
at that point, I was already
pretty open minded to things, but

544
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.800
even that I was still kind of
like, nah, I was like,

545
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:30.800
this is stupid, you know.
And then once I started, you know,

546
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:35.719
watching a couple of them just because
out of curiosity, and I think,

547
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.400
I want to say, the first
couple that I saw were like an

548
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:44.239
Eric Dubay one, and then I
know, I did see that one that

549
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.320
was like a five hour long one. Actually just started watching that one,

550
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:50.679
believe it or not, Like after
all these years, I just started watching

551
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:53.760
that one and I'm still like not
even finished with it. I want to

552
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:57.239
say, I'm like maybe three hours
into it. But that's that's a really

553
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.880
good one. I'm surprobably I can't
believe I've you know, put that one

554
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:06.000
off for so long because I'm such
a good one. But yeah, I

555
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.079
mean once I started looking into those
more and more, it was like it

556
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:12.199
was all of a sudden like something
happened where I just like I had to

557
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.519
know more like it was you know, I kind of got like a peak

558
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.880
into the truth and then you know, I had to see the whole picture,

559
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.199
and just I think the most fascinating
thing about it that really kind of

560
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:29.360
resonated with me was the idea of
distant lands rather than you know, instead

561
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:34.440
of looking up but looking out.
And I mean that that just right there

562
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.960
just kind of makes a lot more
sense and effect of you know, UFOs

563
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:44.679
or extraterrestrial contact and stuff. It
would be a lot easier if you know,

564
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.239
they were more local. I mean, the whole idea is like you

565
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:52.119
know, light years away is just
it's to most people, it's just so

566
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:57.480
like mind boggling that he can't even
comprehend that. I mean, and I

567
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.679
think that's what's you know, so
like easy for people to kind of just

568
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:04.360
be like, oh yeah, yeah, that's what it is, just because

569
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.119
they can't prove themselves. They know
they can't prove it, and the majority

570
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:12.079
of more majority of people they just
kind of offload their you know, research

571
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:15.000
and faith onto somebody else and they
just take it as fact and they do

572
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:20.280
none of their own, um that's
that's the most frustrating part I think to

573
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:24.719
me about the whole kind of paradigm
of people who laugh at the whole flighter

574
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:30.159
stuff is just they don't even even
have that ability to have mind and consider

575
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:37.239
things. Um. And the fact
that they don't have any of the information

576
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:42.679
themselves. They're just taking you know, whatever somebody else said, um.

577
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.280
And that's that's that's like the biggest
problem I think is that most people they

578
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:50.039
don't know, they don't even know
their own model. They don't even look

579
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:54.639
into anything else, and they just
assume, you know, whatever the higher

580
00:40:54.679 --> 00:41:00.039
ups are saying that that's that's what
it is. Yeah, and you made

581
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.599
a great point there, and you
know, they don't know the numerales or

582
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:08.400
the numbers associated with whether it's how
fast we're spinning this, you know,

583
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:12.840
how fast we're chasing the sun,
so on and so forth, and but

584
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:15.639
they believe that we have a rover
on Mars. And then if you were

585
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:17.360
to ask somebody, well, how
far is Mars from us, they'd probably

586
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:22.400
say, oh, you know,
one hundred thousand miles or five hundred thousand,

587
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:27.760
it's according to their numbers, not
mine their numbers. It's almost two

588
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:32.000
hundred million miles away. So you're
telling me when I'm anytime I drive through

589
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:37.719
the mountains of West Virginia, I
lose satellite signal on my whether it's serious

590
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:44.039
radio or my tom Tom or whatever
navigation. But we're we're getting these HD

591
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:50.079
images from two hundred million miles away. That's that is like next level cognitive

592
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:54.639
dissonance. Yeah, it really is. I just you know, they've been

593
00:41:54.760 --> 00:42:01.519
nastazed. I mean that really should
it's a little fine. Most people,

594
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:08.960
like I can't believe, you know
that people really really really wouldn't acid puts

595
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:14.599
out as fact because it's just it's
so obvious to see it. It's it's

596
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:16.599
so much easier to pick up on
all these you know things, I mean,

597
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:21.039
especially looking way back to the landing
stuff. I mean, it's it's

598
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.559
just ridiculous. There's no way that
somebody, like if somebody will watch that

599
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:29.480
today for the very first time,
they would laugh at it. I mean,

600
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:32.360
yeah, it's just crazy. Even
my kids, you know, like

601
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:36.159
we'll watch like old movies. I'll
try to show them movies from like the

602
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.880
nineties, you know, or from
my childhood. Like just they just start

603
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:45.000
laughing when they see like the CGIs
was available at the time. Yeah,

604
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.599
that's exactly right. And I always
ask, when are we going to build

605
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.480
a memorial for the guy who stayed
behind on the moon and filmed the lunar

606
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.400
lander taking off? Right? All
right? Oh no, bro, it's

607
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:59.920
remote control. Okay, sure,
whatever you say. Uh, you know,

608
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:02.800
in the seventies we could barely get
a signal from Philadelphia to Wilmington,

609
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:07.599
Delaware, which was like thirty miles. But sure, okay, we were

610
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:10.880
having a great conversation with Nixon on
a landline and everything else. It's just

611
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.679
obviously not a landline from the moon
to the White House, but its just

612
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.119
all of it. And then one
of the biggest just red flags was the

613
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:25.760
emotions of the astronauts in that press
conference after they came back. Yeah,

614
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:29.880
yeah, I remember, I remember
seeing it. Actually, I had never

615
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:34.000
seen that footage, um until you
know, a couple of years ago.

616
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.159
And that was like a big part
of it too. That was like,

617
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:42.039
I mean, how could they,
you know, just go out there in

618
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.039
the public and just you know,
spew this lie like that, you know,

619
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.920
and it's just so obvious you see
it in their faces. And then

620
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.480
I mean even even to like you
know, most recent times with like buzz

621
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:58.239
Aldrin and his encounters with people.
I mean, it's just it's just all

622
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:02.360
you know, the circus from the
government to NASA, it's all it's all

623
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:07.360
the same. Yeah, And like
anyway, if if if you catch somebody

624
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:13.119
in a lie once, then you
have to you know, hold everything else

625
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:17.920
at least at a minimum under a
microscope. One of our listeners, her

626
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:23.440
name is Sarah. She sent me
an article from June the ninth, and

627
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:28.079
this was one of those articles where
they were able to cover two narratives in

628
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:34.320
one story. It says NASA's Apollo
eleven moon quarantine was hiding a dangerous secret.

629
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.000
So the story was about their bravery
and they had to be quarantined when

630
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.519
they came back from Mars just in
case they brought this. There was a

631
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:45.679
deadly you know, pathogen on Mars
and it's just an incredible I'm gonna read

632
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:49.639
it on the next email podcast we
do. But I mean, you want

633
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:54.400
to talk about there's some guy deep
in CIA headquarters writing this story about how

634
00:44:54.840 --> 00:45:00.880
there's a very famous picture I think
that the quarantine little tank everyone was called

635
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:06.559
the Hornet three and it has the
presidential logo on it. Nixon is laughing.

636
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:12.840
Uh, it's just another ritual.
Uh. It's just hilarious the way

637
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:16.760
when you look back, how we
bought all these things wholesale. Yeah see,

638
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.920
and I never knew about that.
I didn't even know about the Warren

639
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:22.800
team stuff like that. And that
just goes to show too that, like,

640
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:27.039
you know, how how long have
they've been planning a lot of these

641
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.280
agendas. I mean obviously, you
know, easy for people they have.

642
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.239
They play the long game, I
mean, and that's what they I feel

643
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.679
like they stir up a lot of
fear and people and they have people thinking,

644
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:44.639
you know, in a scarcity mindset
and that fearful mindset. And meanwhile

645
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:49.800
they're just kind of going slow and
taking it easy, and the whole course

646
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.199
of their plan just kind of plays
out over time. I mean, I

647
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:59.360
don't know, And it's just it's
weird to think of time from from their

648
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:01.920
perspective, because I mean, for
the most part, people are just so

649
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:06.840
caught up in their daily lives they
don't think about, you know, that

650
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.599
far down the road. I mean, these these plans that they have in

651
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:15.480
place, they're just you know,
they're they're not stupid, but they're not

652
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.159
that smart either, No, they're
not. And I always point back to

653
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.000
that guy I can never remember his
name, but the guy who says I'd

654
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.639
go back to the moon in a
nanosecond if only we hadn't lost that technology.

655
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.920
And that is like if you want
to talk about your your your silver

656
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:34.400
bullets. And and again, these
things don't necessarily prove flat Earth, but

657
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:39.559
it's certainly discredits an agency who gets
you know, billions of dollars every single

658
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:45.920
year to produce you know lies.
Yeah, and that's what's crazy to me,

659
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:49.679
is like where does that money go? I mean, I can't remember

660
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:54.360
the guy's name from the next level
um or I'm sorry, level with me

661
00:46:54.559 --> 00:47:00.280
film that he does the uh what
is this like a city council meeting?

662
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.199
I guess, oh yeah, yeah, yeah that I've played that before.

663
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.360
That guy spot on I think he's
in Florida. Yeah, and he's like,

664
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.360
hey, what's our money going?
You guys should open investigation, right,

665
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.159
I mean like we, I mean, as the public, we should

666
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.199
definitely be you know, we got
a lot of money coming. I mean,

667
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:21.599
where's all of our tax money going
to? I mean I can't imagine

668
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:27.199
how they could possibly spend that much
money a day like on what. Yeah,

669
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.159
I mean that goes back to the
problem we have in all these cities

670
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:32.159
with the homeless. Well, can
we at least start there helping people out

671
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.639
a little bit? Yeah, but
yeah, yeah, and like the veterans

672
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.119
too. I know my dad had
a hard time with the VA. And

673
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:45.039
yeah, my dad did too,
I mean, and my grandpa too.

674
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:47.840
I mean he was he was also
a military guy, and he had issues

675
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:51.360
dealing with the VA. So I
mean, there's all kinds of programs that

676
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:55.119
we could be using, you know, for people here instead of like thinking

677
00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:01.639
about some fantasy land out in space. It's just mind blowing to think how

678
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:07.960
they kind of prioritize our money.
Yeah. I caught it with an old

679
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:10.400
friend the other day and he asked
me, jokingly, said, how did

680
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:16.360
the Iraqi street you? I said, better than the VA kind of dropped

681
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:21.239
his jaw. I didn't quite get
it, but I mean that's anyway,

682
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:22.880
that's I guess another story for another
day. How well, you know when

683
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:28.480
you finally accepted flat Earth and did
you go kind of like many people,

684
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:30.000
did you go through that range of
emotions or was it just kind of a

685
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:35.519
doesn't surprise me. They lie about
everything else. Yeah, it was.

686
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:40.480
It was more so like um,
it's like I want to say, it

687
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:45.840
was more positive than anything. Just
I feel like my life definitely changed for

688
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:50.360
the better from that point on,
just because my whole mindset of everything changed.

689
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:57.360
Just being able to kind of look
at the world differently. You definitely

690
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:02.360
kind of appreciate the world a lot
more, um like as far as nature

691
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.639
and just you know, my life
in in you know particular as well,

692
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:13.920
just kind of being more appreciative of
things and kind of having feeling like a

693
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.840
little bit more purpose, a little
more meaning. Um. I mean,

694
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:21.239
obviously they kind of keep you in
this that fear of mindset of you know,

695
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.320
like worse, we're just an accident
and all that, and um,

696
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:30.119
the whole Big Bang theory and just
evolution. I mean it's just ridiculous,

697
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:34.519
and you know, everything begins to
make more sense. I mean, obviously

698
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:38.920
there's like different religions all throughout the
world, and everybody has their their different

699
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:45.960
pathway in their different road to God
in in their own own way. And

700
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:52.199
obviously being you know, America being
having more like a Christian based kind of

701
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:54.880
theology. You know, I kind
of looked into that a little bit more

702
00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:00.119
just because it was the most familiar
um. And you know, it's crazy

703
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.320
to me because obviously my wife kind
of grew up religious, but you know,

704
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.840
it wasn't so much like she was
religious as it was just kind of

705
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:12.880
something that was there and her childhood
growing up. So if she didn't really

706
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.599
look into it a whole lot,
just it was just something that was like

707
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:21.119
her parents like made her go to
church on the weekends. But me having

708
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:25.039
looked into it and having researched it
and and actually reading the Bible just out

709
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:30.480
of curiosity and you know, like
just talking to it, you know,

710
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.639
I just you know, obviously we
got those like the missionaries that go around

711
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.639
and stuff. And I had a
conversation with a couple of kids then I

712
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:38.719
was, you know, I just
asked them. I was like, you

713
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:42.760
know, have you read the Bible? And they're like, whoa, They're

714
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.280
like not all of it. And
I'm just like thinking in my mind,

715
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:51.679
like how are you going around the
world, you know and trying to like

716
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:55.440
kind of preach something that you don't
even know about. And it was like

717
00:50:55.639 --> 00:51:00.119
kind of mind blowing to me,
and it kind of it just tripped me

718
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:05.639
out to think, like it's almost
like you know, obviously, organized religion

719
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:09.480
has it's kind of benefits, but
it's got a lot of weird deception in

720
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:14.159
it too, and that that's what
kind of made me, you know,

721
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:16.760
want to look into things more on
my own. I feel like I've always

722
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:22.519
kind of done better, you know, just kind of comprehending things on my

723
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:29.119
own rather than just having somebody tell
me something. And yeah, it's just

724
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:31.639
you know, one of those things
where like it definitely kind of put things

725
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:35.519
in perspective for me to make me
realize that, Yeah, I feel like

726
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:39.039
there is God. Um, I
mean obviously it just just by you know,

727
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:43.840
where we live and just how perfect
this place is. I mean,

728
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:49.639
there's no way this is an accident. I mean, yeah, everything is

729
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:52.880
smartly connected and created and there's a
rhyme and there's a reason for everything.

730
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:58.239
Even the things that that we're we're
kind of led to believe are bad things

731
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:05.360
like nettle. Nettle is such healthy
um uh sustenance to put in. Again,

732
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:07.800
I'm not a doctor guy, so
make sure research is stuff. But

733
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:10.079
nettle is very healthy. Dandelions are
very healthy, and they want you to

734
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:14.719
believe these things are weeds and they
want you to spray with round up and

735
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:19.519
you know, all these products from
Monsanto and all the bear these evil companies

736
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:22.559
that and again you look at the
cancer rate in our country and all the

737
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:27.880
people who are sick between vaccines,
um our food supply that is being poisoned.

738
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:30.880
Um, we're being you know,
it's they're they're spraying the air.

739
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:36.199
It's it's it's an all out um
war against us. There's these even some

740
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:40.079
countries right now that are having you
know, some of their lowest birthrates.

741
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:45.519
And there's a lot of telling signs
right now that these guys are really pushing

742
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:50.800
their you know, the first rule
there on the Georgia guidestones is keeping humanity

743
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.840
at that number that they're just dying
to get down to. It's it's really

744
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:58.679
insane. Yeah. Yeah, they
poisoned us at every chance they can get.

745
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:02.480
I mean, I actually just seen
a video recently about the whole McDonald's

746
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:07.920
fries and uh, they I guess
the farmers that's it's a specific type of

747
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:13.840
potato because they want to make sure
that they're long fries and in order to

748
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:17.480
keep them like all perfect looking on
the outside, like, they spray the

749
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:22.480
certain these pesticides on them and the
pesticides that they sprang on them are so

750
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:28.400
toxic that the farmers themselves won't even
go out to the fields for like I

751
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:31.480
can't remember how many it's like days
or weeks or something. Uh, you

752
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:37.360
know, just until it like kind
of dissipates or whatever and it's safe to

753
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.159
go back out there. I mean, it's just crazy, like the stuff

754
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:44.119
that they've put in our food,
they put in our air, I mean

755
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:46.320
everything. They're just trying to kill
us slowly. I mean obviously they don't

756
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:51.400
want to just you know, kill
us off immediately. They need us,

757
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.800
um you know, the world if
they I mean, if the world came

758
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:59.679
to all a sudden halt, it
wouldn't really benefit them. So they're just

759
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:05.599
kind of slowly keeping us down.
And then like all the stuff that they

760
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:07.960
you know, bombards with and the
air is just you know, it's so

761
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.760
obvious, all the kim trails and
stuff. I mean, who knows what

762
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:15.760
they're spraying up there. But you
know, I've been kind of like,

763
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:20.000
you know, learning about that stuff
too. I had a friend of mine

764
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:22.599
he kept telling me, He's like, you know, we talked about the

765
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.519
Kim trails and stuff, and I
was I was just kind of dismissed it

766
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:27.760
always like I was like, okay, whatever, that's just whatever's coming out

767
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.360
of the back of the airplane as
it's moving along, you know. And

768
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:34.239
then I mean you look up there
now and like you can see him,

769
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.280
like there's like it's not even just
a streak. It'll be like it'll be

770
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:40.599
like criss crossing and like all kinds
of crazy patterns and stuff. It's like

771
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:47.239
it's clearly like they're doing something intentionally. You know. Yeah, actual contrails

772
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:51.880
dissipate in a very short period of
time. We've you know, we're not

773
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:53.880
far from Dover Air Force Space.
We've had some days here where the sky

774
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:58.360
is just you know, they spray
and then it spreads like it kind of

775
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:02.800
spreads up very wide. Um you
kind of see the sky change colors and

776
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:07.440
um. Yeah, a huge difference
between contrails and chem trails. You know.

777
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.400
Back in the fifties, you know, you you could see a plane,

778
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:13.559
you know, it's just like an
exhaust pike with a car. But

779
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.199
it dissipates very quickly. You know. Some of these things stay up in

780
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:21.480
the sky for quite some time now. Yeah, yeah, And it's crazy

781
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:24.800
because I live not too far off
from an airfield, and I mean,

782
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:28.599
I see a lot of air traffic, and you know, I'll look up

783
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:31.800
and I'll see planes is cruising by, no no contrail at all. And

784
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:35.719
then I'll look up and I'll see
another one and is just leaving, you

785
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:38.800
know, this contrail just coming out
of it. And then you know,

786
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:43.760
I'll see it there and come back
hours later and it's still there and it's

787
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:47.280
just you know, hovering around,
just you know, who knows what it

788
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.519
is. Yeah, you had mentioned
about the you know, the folks,

789
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:58.840
the missionaries going around there. For
folks who's listening, there are um some

790
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:04.639
pretty decent things on YouTube, like
you can listen to the King James version

791
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.679
Bible and like one year they break
it down into three hundred and sixty five

792
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:12.159
readings. And that is a little
alarming where you have people that are supposedly

793
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.000
going around the world spreading the Gospel
and they haven't read the whole Bible.

794
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:20.679
That that's that is interesting. And
I did too. I had, like

795
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:23.960
I'm sure I had like a ton
of questions to ask them, uh you

796
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:27.840
know, but at the time I
was I was kind of more focused.

797
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:30.920
So I think it was because I
had just listened to like an episode of

798
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:37.320
like Josh Monday where he's talking about
the creation story and Genesis, and I

799
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.480
wanted to ask him about that,
and I remember that was like my key

800
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:45.639
question that I wanted to talk to
them about. And the only thing I

801
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:51.079
remember him saying was he goes,
well, he don't take it literally.

802
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:53.599
And I was thinking that kind of
blew my away, like, you know,

803
00:56:54.440 --> 00:57:00.559
you're preaching in the Bible, but
you're also telling people that it's just

804
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:04.920
you know, not to take it
literally, like you know, is it

805
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:08.960
real or is it just you know, poems and parables. You know,

806
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:17.199
it's very hard to kind of discern
what it is that they're kind of preaching,

807
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:22.760
you know, especially especially like religions, especially like newer ones like the

808
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:29.440
Mormon religion and other just new adaptations
of Christianity. I mean, I guess

809
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:34.119
they all have their their own kind
of you know, agendas that they are

810
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:39.519
looking to push, and I mean
I think they kind of ties into with

811
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:46.159
like the early America, you know, just the American story of you know,

812
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:51.239
the wild West and everything. It
just seems very kind of, you

813
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:53.519
know, far fetched now now that
I look at it, like all that

814
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:59.679
stuff like wild West stuff just seems
very kind of like out there. That

815
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.360
leads to another question. Have you
ever gone down the old mud flood and

816
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:07.679
Tartaria and you know it is our
history? Actually, really have you taken

817
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:12.760
a peek down that rabbit hole?
Yeah? I have. I'm like,

818
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:17.000
actually, uh, you know that
that was actually a big part of that

819
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:22.039
whole six hour long video as well. They touched a lot on that.

820
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:23.360
But I mean before even before that
though, I had, you know,

821
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:28.639
learned about it and just kind of
going down that and that was like kind

822
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:30.599
of brought to my mind, um, you know, as far as like

823
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:34.440
how old the world is, like
you know, I mean how many how

824
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:39.320
many past you know, ancient civilizations
of humans have come and gone and or

825
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:44.599
just kind of been consumed again by
the earth and are beneath our feet.

826
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.400
You know. I always think about
that, you know, just if you

827
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:51.559
look at like the ancient structures too. I mean, the only ones that

828
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:54.159
really are even standing are like the
ones that are made naturally like out of

829
00:58:54.440 --> 00:59:00.159
natural materials like stone. I mean, if left like an attendant too,

830
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:04.960
I mean, metals like cars and
skyscrapers can deteriorate pretty quick. I mean,

831
00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:08.000
especially on the you know, whole
timeline of things. I mean,

832
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:13.880
you know, I could definitely see
how like um, you know, you

833
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:17.559
like, let's say, for instance, like a like ancient civilization was more

834
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:25.079
resourceful in a sense of using you
know, materials that were like pulled from

835
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:30.920
the earth, let's say, you
know, and more like uh like gave

836
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:36.039
degrades by itself. I mean obviously
you know things can you know, everything

837
00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:38.079
that we have, even even like
the new technology and plastics, it's all

838
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:43.039
originates from an organic matter in a
sense. I mean you look at like

839
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:46.360
a like a like a circuit board, I mean, what is it?

840
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:50.280
What is it even made out of? It's made out of you know,

841
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:53.719
metals. I mean the silica the
board is made out of. Is what

842
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:58.239
made out of? What? Sand? I guess, right, is that

843
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:00.440
what it is? Yeah, it's
more you know, it's just basic you

844
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:05.119
know, not ingredients. But you
know things that would like you said,

845
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:08.920
would a road quickly? Yeah?
Yeah, So I mean like these things,

846
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:14.880
I mean I could definitely see how
like a civilization could be like there's

847
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:19.360
so far advanced and then something happened
and it just completely just be a race

848
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.559
from the world. I mean,
and we're just kind of left with these

849
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:27.920
little, you know, reminders of
what the most most recent one is.

850
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:30.800
I mean, I think the last
thing I just remember hearing about was like

851
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:37.400
they shut down the Grand Canyon and
they got like, um, Egyptian and

852
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:43.920
Asian artifacts that have been uncovered there
and like an underground city. I mean,

853
01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:45.800
there's all kinds of stuff, you
know that who knew, who knows

854
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.440
what's real and what's not. But
I mean I could definitely see something like

855
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:53.920
that. I don't know, it's
just it's hard. It's hard to take

856
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:58.199
in a lot of information that I
see now, just because I'm a lot

857
01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:02.039
more kind of you know, skeptical. But at the same time, nothing

858
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:07.079
surprises me me. Yeah, And
at the same time, I'm glad you

859
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:12.400
mentioned that, because I didn't even
realize till I guess fairly recently that there

860
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:15.760
are many parts of the Grand Canyon
that you're not allowed to investigate yourself,

861
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:21.760
that are completely off limits to people. Yeah, and I can only imagine

862
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:22.840
why. And I'm sure I had
nothing to do with, you know,

863
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:28.079
people's safety, right, it's for
our best interest rights, They're just looking

864
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:36.880
out for us. Yeah, it's
always in our best You had mentioned briefly

865
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:38.079
in your in your email, and
I did want to kind of touch on

866
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:45.480
it as well. When nine to
eleven went down, At what point in

867
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:49.800
your life did you did you take
the time to peek into that and how

868
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.079
did that change the way you looked
at things when you kind of realize that

869
01:01:52.159 --> 01:02:00.239
the official story as usual wasn't exactly
as how it went down. UM.

870
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:06.880
And I think I think the first
time I kind of heard anything about it

871
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:10.840
as far as being skeptical of it, was probably, you know obviously,

872
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:16.559
like right around when like the war
was kind of beginning, UM invasion or

873
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:21.880
Iraq and all that, George Bush, you know, forming his reasons to

874
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:25.159
go in UM. And at the
time too, I actually was I was

875
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:29.760
going to follow the tradition and listen
in the military and going to the Marines

876
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:32.599
and uh I. But before I
did, I mean, I was already

877
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:39.199
talking to a recruiter than UM my
my wife who was my then girlfriend at

878
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:44.039
the time, you know, we
started dating and kind of took me down

879
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:46.039
a different path. I mean,
who knows what life would have been if

880
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:50.400
I had gone that way. But
it was definitely one of those things where

881
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.400
it was at the forefront of my
mind of like the whole patriotism and you

882
01:02:53.440 --> 01:03:00.400
know, wanting to go and fight
and you know, just that American pride

883
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:04.559
of you know, it was it's
it's amazing to look at things from you

884
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.360
know, in hindsight, uh as
far as like the reasoning for things and

885
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:13.280
why you do stuff, and you
know, I'm just I'm so grateful that

886
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:15.679
I didn't go down that path,
because I remember I have quite a few

887
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:20.679
friends that did, and you know, they either didn't make it back or

888
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:24.480
they made it back and were totally
different. Um. It was just a

889
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:30.960
very kind of bizarre time in the
world. I mean, yeah, it

890
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:35.760
was probably right around that time when
the war was you know, kicking off,

891
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:42.519
and just seeing like the reasoning and
then obviously all the you know,

892
01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:49.159
political stuff going on. I think
probably the biggest thing was like hearing my

893
01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:52.760
dad and him talking about it,
and him having already been in the military

894
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:59.519
for so many years and hearing his
take on it and him being, you

895
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:02.119
know, tone me that he was
grateful that I didn't go. I mean

896
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:04.599
it was weird too because leading it
up for years, he was like all

897
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:09.360
for it, and I was like
supportive of me doing that. And then

898
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:13.840
you know, I think it was
a combination of both him and my wife

899
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:18.159
just kind of talked me out of
it. But I mean it's not to

900
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:20.320
say that, you know, I
don't have anything against the military, have

901
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:24.480
a lot of military friends and you
know, a lot of respect. But

902
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:30.320
I mean, I just I couldn't
see myself now, I guess being proud

903
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:34.400
of myself for having gone, but
yeah, now I completely get it.

904
01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:38.239
Me and my my son just had
this conversation a couple of weeks ago as

905
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:40.880
well, because he had actually got
to the point where he went. He

906
01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:43.760
was at MEPs in Philadelphia, you
know, doing the physical and everything,

907
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:46.840
and just changed his you know,
like halfway through the day he just said,

908
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.360
now, and you know, we
had that conversation like we're so grateful

909
01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:54.880
that he didn't because, you know, and now we're much wiser, you

910
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:58.760
know, over the last ten years
and understand what it's really all about.

911
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:00.559
And of course the people in the
middle of terry. Everybody goes in,

912
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.920
you know, with with a good
heart. And it's not the soldiers,

913
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:08.719
it's the people at the top.
It's the people who control um. It's

914
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:14.760
the manipulators who create you know that
they create these emergencies around the world and

915
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:18.360
it's up to the the USA to
to just like, I know, the

916
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:23.280
movie was ridiculous, but the Team
America, that's exactly how how they like

917
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:27.039
to portray us. Were like the
heroes that come in and we save people

918
01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:30.800
by dropping you know, bombs all
over them. And uh, I really

919
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:34.639
really, you know, I had
had my suspicions, but Livia was really

920
01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:40.280
next next level mind opening when you
find out, um, how blessed the

921
01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:43.679
country was. And I'm not saying
the guy was a saint, um Gaddafi

922
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:45.840
um, whether or not he was
involved in that bombing in eighty nine,

923
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:51.079
but the they literally had the number
one prenatal system in the entire world.

924
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:57.840
Um, when people had babies,
they were given off, and they had

925
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:01.920
an underground river system for you know, irrigating. It was just next level.

926
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:04.480
It's just if you mess with the
rothschilds, if you mess with the

927
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:10.039
bankers, it's a game over.
We're going to bring democracy and uh,

928
01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:15.199
you know we're gonna bring freedom our
way. And again it's uh, it's

929
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:18.840
not a knock on the soldiers,
sailors, marines. Um. It's a

930
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:24.199
combination of the lies in our history
books. Um, you know, the

931
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:28.599
way the stories are written and of
course, um, the media is controlled.

932
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:31.559
Like everybody's seen that video where ninety
five percent of the media is controlled

933
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:38.079
by the same entity. And I
forget what documentary it was, but they

934
01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:42.719
were playing like all the local news
from around the country and they're literally saying

935
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:46.199
the same thing. Yeah. Yeah, I have like I have like a

936
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:51.000
ton of friends that have been in
the military for for you know, decade

937
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:55.639
or two, and you know,
they just their mindset of things now.

938
01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:59.480
I mean obviously they're a lot more
conspiratorial too, because they're just they they've

939
01:06:59.519 --> 01:07:02.719
seen it for his hand, and
you know, they they realized that going

940
01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:06.960
in they were kind of naive and
young and you know kind of got you

941
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:12.119
know, pushed down this you know
way of thinking and kind of control the

942
01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:15.559
follow orders and next thing, you
know, it's like they're a decade in

943
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:19.880
and they're just seeing all the deception
for what it is and just I mean,

944
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:24.159
yeah, like like you're saying,
with the Gadaphi and Libya, I

945
01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:29.239
mean they had their own, uh
monetary system of like paying with you know,

946
01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:32.599
gold and you know, things that
were of real value and not actual

947
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:36.760
like paper money. I mean,
you know, he I feel like they

948
01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:41.599
had kind of figured out and that's
that's why, you know, like you

949
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:47.000
said, they brought democracy. Yeah, and it's not a coincidence that the

950
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:51.519
two guys who kind of came up
with hydro engines, Stanley Myers and then

951
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:56.639
the guy who was the security guard
at the Buffalo Tops who got killed,

952
01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:59.360
you know, both of the guys
who kind of invented these engines that could

953
01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:03.440
run on water. Um, the
mysterious. They just die if you go

954
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:08.920
against uh. And obviously, like
if I invented free free energy, like

955
01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:11.320
hey, everybody, you just got
to put this throught up, and I've

956
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:15.880
created this thing, I would be
gone within three days. George Hobbs was

957
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:17.479
found at the bottom of the lake. He had a boating accidents. And

958
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:21.399
just the way everything is, we're
busy working, I mean, everybody would

959
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:24.359
be sad for a couple of days
and then life would go on. That's

960
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:28.560
just the power that these people have. I mean, if they can take

961
01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:31.199
out a sitting president and get away
with it, everything else is just you

962
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:39.279
know cake, Yeah, I know, it's a you know, I think

963
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:44.760
I can't remember if I've seen it
on your page or another one just today

964
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:46.840
or you know, actually, no, I did see it on your page

965
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:51.279
or I heard it on the episode
I listened to today, the one with

966
01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:55.800
Larry Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
and it was the clip of Gerald before

967
01:08:55.920 --> 01:09:00.800
being asked about a woman president.
And uh, that was was mind blowing.

968
01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:02.239
I couldn't believe that. I mean, I had to go look it

969
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:05.800
up right away, and I was
watching the video and I shared it and

970
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:10.000
I was just like, you know, I just can't believe that I had

971
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:15.279
never heard that before, and it's
just very very bizarre. I mean to

972
01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:17.960
see if if if that plays out
the way he kind of said it that

973
01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:24.159
right there is like, you know, everybody needs to pay attention, right,

974
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:27.920
And I don't think it would in
my opinion, I'm not sure it

975
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:32.079
would have been so alarming if the
little girl had asked the question differently.

976
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:36.960
But she literally says, can you
give me advice on how to become a

977
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:41.000
president? And you would again,
you would expect them to say, get

978
01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:44.680
into a good college, you know, do four years in the military,

979
01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:47.399
because you know that looks good.
Things like that. He's no, he

980
01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:51.760
just goes into this story and it's
like holy call. And again he's at

981
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:59.479
Herbert Hoover's Presidential Library and that guy
was a freemason and just and then there's

982
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:01.680
the but one of my friends he
actually said he told me he said that,

983
01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:09.840
Um, I want to say,
the day that Herbert Hoover died was

984
01:10:10.600 --> 01:10:14.600
Kamala Harris's birthday. I'm not,
I'm not. Don't quote me on that,

985
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:16.119
but I remember my friend he did
tell me that. I can't.

986
01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:19.960
I don't know if that's entirely true
or not. All right, So we're

987
01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:26.239
gonna do this live while we're recording. But m Herbert Hoover, Um,

988
01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:31.840
let's see, he died October twentieth, nineteen sixty four. Kamala Harris was

989
01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:40.760
born um October twentieth, nineteen sixty
four. Holy cow, you can't make

990
01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:49.079
this stuff up. Yeah, that's
pretty goodness. Wow. Yeah. I

991
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:51.560
mean when he told me that,
I was like, what's like, no

992
01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:59.600
way? Yeah, Yeah, there's
a lot going on with all this stuff

993
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:01.760
that's just kind of ties in and
it's just I mean, I I don't

994
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:09.279
know how people aren't, you know, putting two and two together. Yeah,

995
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:13.920
it's funny that her father has uh. I think he had some ties

996
01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:16.960
to Kenya and um, of course
there's the whole Obamba thing. But that

997
01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:19.720
again, that's a that's a story
for another day. That's I have this

998
01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:25.239
list of rabbit holes on my my
big whiteboard over here. That's why there's

999
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:28.239
it's crazy. Like if I were
to literally put up, you know,

1000
01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:31.119
a giant quirkboard with all these that's
probably what I need to do, because

1001
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.560
you know, one thing I've learned, anytime you go down a rabbit hole,

1002
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:39.359
it's just a matter of time before
two or three other conspiracies are interconnected,

1003
01:11:39.359 --> 01:11:43.840
whether it's you know, individuals or
or towns, or it's just insane.

1004
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:47.960
Yeah, it is is weird how
it all kind of connects. I

1005
01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:53.600
mean, it's it's just one of
those things where it's like, you know,

1006
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:56.920
the fly Earth just ties everything together. I mean, I think what

1007
01:11:57.039 --> 01:12:00.239
it is because what it does is
just it removes veil and allows you to

1008
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:08.319
kind of pay closer attention to things, um and just just having that you

1009
01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:12.119
know, like people, just having
people out there doing like what you do.

1010
01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:15.199
I mean, it's it's amazing because
it just allows you know, so

1011
01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:21.600
many people who you know don't normally
talk about this stuff openly, just to

1012
01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:26.880
giving them like somewhere to kind of
you know, vent two in a way.

1013
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:30.279
And I mean, like like people
are you and Sean Hibler are like

1014
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:33.399
out there, you know, really
at the forefront of everything, just kind

1015
01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:39.800
of you know, speaking on behalf
of everyone that feel this way. And

1016
01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:43.760
uh, you know, because I
mean obviously majority of people, you know,

1017
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:45.920
you start talking about this and like
you know, to your immediate friends

1018
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:49.640
and family, they're gonna be just
dismissing it or taking your crazier, call

1019
01:12:49.720 --> 01:12:54.760
you stupid and stuff. It's only
because they're not looking into it themselves,

1020
01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:58.119
and you know, and it's I
used it used to kind of get me

1021
01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:00.079
frustrated, I guess when they would
say that kind of stuff. But now

1022
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:03.319
I kind of, you know,
obviously having thought about it for so long,

1023
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:06.680
it's kind of gotten me to more
of a mindset of like like,

1024
01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:11.279
Okay, I can understand why they're
like speaking the way they are because I

1025
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:15.760
thought that same way too, But
you know, just kind of leaving them,

1026
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:20.039
leaving him on that kind of you
know, note it just maybe they'll

1027
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:24.279
kind of nudge them to kind of
look into it a little bit more,

1028
01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:27.439
and then once they start looking into
it, then they can kind of come

1029
01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:30.960
to their own conclusion. Because that
seems to be the only way for people

1030
01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:33.239
to really kind of consider it is
you know, they have to do it

1031
01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:38.000
on their own. I mean,
like, what's his name, Sam Triple,

1032
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:42.600
He says, like one of the
rules of their own and he says,

1033
01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:46.319
you know, to not give people
information that they don't seek. And

1034
01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:49.359
you know, and I kind of
I do that now, or I just

1035
01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:53.840
I'll just keep it to myself.
I'm not really out there openly, just

1036
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:56.920
kind of trying to tell people about
it or inform people. But if they

1037
01:13:56.920 --> 01:14:00.960
asked me, yeah, I'll talk
to them about it. Yeah. In

1038
01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:05.039
some cases, I've learned you can
even drive them even further away. That's

1039
01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:10.520
you hit the nail right on the
head. People have to be willing to

1040
01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:15.359
be receptive that those who aren't,
I just I'll leave them again just a

1041
01:14:16.399 --> 01:14:20.239
crom I'll say something like we mentioned
earlier. You know, it's funny that,

1042
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.640
you know, Mars is two hundred
million miles away, but you know

1043
01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:27.399
we could barely get a TV signal
from you know, just small things like

1044
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:30.800
that, just to you know,
a little huh. And eventually, maybe

1045
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:32.359
in the next week or two down
the road, they'll see something that'll kind

1046
01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:38.239
of spark that seed that you planted. And again, just to give them

1047
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:40.880
enough to say, maybe I should
check it out, because at the end

1048
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:44.079
of the day, it's up to
them to be able to accept it and

1049
01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:48.399
go down the rabbit holes and which
is you know, people are busy.

1050
01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:51.800
There's some people work ten, twelve, fourteen hours a day and they just

1051
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:56.239
want to come home and you know, eat dinner and crack a beer and

1052
01:14:56.439 --> 01:15:00.239
it's time to go back. You
know. The rat race is a huge

1053
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:02.439
job stickle for the truth community.
Would you agree with that? Oh?

1054
01:15:02.520 --> 01:15:06.680
Yeah, absolutely. I mean just
just keeping people as busy as possible at

1055
01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:10.920
all times. I mean, that's
that's ideal for them to kind of you

1056
01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:15.720
know, not allow people to think
and pay attention and consider anything other than

1057
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:23.199
just surviving. Absolutely. Um,
we have, you know, five or

1058
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:25.720
ten minutes left. I wanted to
ask you. Have you looked into the

1059
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:30.920
other things like, um, the
flight paths and things of that nature on

1060
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:34.000
flat Earth? Yeah? Yeah,
I did. I actually, Um,

1061
01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:38.960
like, for instance, like the
one Dave Weiss talked about that book,

1062
01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:42.880
I kind of briefly looked into that
one, but just hearing them talking about

1063
01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:46.960
it, like just I mean the
distances and like the points of origin,

1064
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:54.199
like between Ian it's just it's just
crazy to to look at the map,

1065
01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:58.680
you know that we're presented, and
you know, the look at these ridiculous

1066
01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:01.439
paths that they try to say that
we take. I mean, there's no

1067
01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:06.279
reason to be zig zagging around like
that. And you know, and people

1068
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:11.319
will try to come up with the
reasons of like, oh, they need

1069
01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:15.680
to stay stay near land, and
uh, you know this and that is

1070
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:18.199
just you know, so you're telling
me that they're gonna go twice the distance

1071
01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:27.439
just to stay close to land.
I mean, considering how you know precise

1072
01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:30.920
there you know, flights. I
mean, there's very few you know,

1073
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:33.279
malfunctions that they have with planes,
you know, on the grand scale of

1074
01:16:33.279 --> 01:16:36.680
things, to to even like have
that as like a worry. I mean,

1075
01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:41.520
you know, they they're pretty spot
on of taking off and landing at

1076
01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:45.880
locations. I mean, to be
worried that something may happen where they have

1077
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:47.920
to stay close to land. You're
gonna crashing into the land. Is gonna

1078
01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:51.920
be safe for them crashing in the
water or what are they saying exactly?

1079
01:16:53.239 --> 01:16:56.239
And listen, they fly to Hawaii
every day, they fly to Japan every

1080
01:16:56.319 --> 01:16:59.079
day, They fly to Korea every
day, they fly to Australia every day.

1081
01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:03.880
So there's just tons and tons of
instances where they're flying over water for

1082
01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:08.319
for countless hours at a time.
So that just simply doesn't hold up.

1083
01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:12.800
And secondly, you know, these
airlines are businesses. They cut nickels.

1084
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.399
You know, I remember back in
the day in the eighties when I flew

1085
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:19.239
man you got these meals you got
sometimes you got booze free, and now

1086
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:23.199
you're lucky if you get a cracker
and a half of soda. These people

1087
01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:27.560
would not, especially when you look
how much the fuel has increased over the

1088
01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:31.880
last few years. They would certainly
take the most direct route period, end

1089
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:35.399
of story. And these people don't
they care more about their money than their

1090
01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:40.640
employees. I guarantee you that,
Yeah, absolutely. I mean they just

1091
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:44.800
pack people into these planes like sardines
and just you know, I mean row

1092
01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:48.000
after row of like you know,
you know, seats. They're definitely trying

1093
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:51.600
to maximize, you know, every
dollar that they can. I mean,

1094
01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:58.239
I just can't imagine that they would
want to quadruple their you know, mileage

1095
01:17:58.319 --> 01:18:03.800
just to just to equate for the
distances. Yeah, that's right, because

1096
01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:08.079
listen, every flight hour they accumulate, you know, every so often when

1097
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:11.920
they hit certain numbers in flight hours, they have maintenance they have to do.

1098
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:15.520
So if they're accumulating more maintenance or
you know, more flight hours intentionally

1099
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:19.079
that means more crew rest, that
means they have to hire a more crew,

1100
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:24.239
that means more maintenance. It's just
that doesn't pass the sniff test for

1101
01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:28.800
me. Yeah, and you know, for how many videos and coming out

1102
01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:33.000
to where the pilots are, you
know, answering questions about the whole what

1103
01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:38.800
they think about the earth and everything. And I mean I think probably one

1104
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:43.359
of the one might go to um
like for us that I have a friend

1105
01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:47.239
who he jumps or he used to
jump out of airplanes for the military,

1106
01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:51.680
and he was saying that he would
see the curvature from the airplane and I

1107
01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:55.680
asked him what altitude was, and
he said it was right around like thirty

1108
01:18:55.720 --> 01:18:58.279
four thousand feet And I'm like,
well, that's like, you know,

1109
01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:04.359
pretty average with the commercial airlines and
uh, you know, even Neil the

1110
01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:08.199
you know, the Grass Heights and
said in front of an audience, he

1111
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:11.279
said that even at you know,
one hundred and twenty thousand feet or whatever

1112
01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:15.039
the Red Bull space jump was,
he still couldn't see the curve from that

1113
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:18.960
height yet. I mean, if
that's not like just you know, concrete

1114
01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:24.680
enough evidence for people to you know, disprove the whole curvature thing, I

1115
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:28.079
mean, I don't know what else
is they just contradict themselves lesson right,

1116
01:19:28.359 --> 01:19:32.399
yep, yeah, they most certainly
do. Um. What was there anything

1117
01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:35.960
that we haven't excuse me, touched
on yet that you wanted to bring up?

1118
01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:42.840
Um? I mean no, not
really, I just I mean,

1119
01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:45.520
if anything, I think it would
just be kind of cool to see more,

1120
01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:53.159
um movies with that kind of sci
fi kind of you know, depiction

1121
01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:58.640
of outer worlds or outer realms instead
of space. Yeah. You know what's

1122
01:19:58.640 --> 01:20:02.279
funny. One of the listeners brought
to my attention, excuse me, um,

1123
01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:06.319
a movie called what was it called
Free Guy? I think it was

1124
01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:11.640
called and Um. We had some
credits on our our prime video. So

1125
01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:14.520
I was like, well, this
guy, uh, this gentleman asked me

1126
01:20:14.560 --> 01:20:16.640
to check it out. So I
finally watched it last night, and uh,

1127
01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:20.880
I guess the last ten or fifteen
minutes. Uh, you could kind

1128
01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:26.880
of say that they were kind of
saying, did you have you seen that

1129
01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:30.119
movie? I did? I did
see it. Yeah, I know exactly

1130
01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:32.159
what we're talking about at the end
where they kind of created that world.

1131
01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:39.720
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's you know, there's

1132
01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:42.359
a lot of stuff out there.
I mean, you know the Truman Show

1133
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:45.039
obviously, that was like one of
the original ones that I can think of.

1134
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:48.720
Um, but yeah, they definitely
have depicted it in plenty of movies.

1135
01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:53.880
But I mean just like a full
on kind of you know, like

1136
01:20:54.159 --> 01:21:00.399
get in a aircraft and just traverse, you know, out past the Artica.

1137
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:02.000
I think that would be probably one
of the coolest, you know,

1138
01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:05.680
visual effect type of movies that they
could do. Yeah, for sure,

1139
01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:11.640
the conspiracy Theorist would fill up the
movie theater, that's for sure. Yeah.

1140
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.239
And you know, if you look
at a flat Earth map, what's

1141
01:21:14.279 --> 01:21:17.439
to say that there aren't other land
masses within our own lake, Because if

1142
01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:21.920
you see how much water is out
there in the Pacific Ocean, they could

1143
01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:26.239
very well have land that we don't
know of that is not mapped out.

1144
01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:30.279
Absolutely, I mean, and even
with like the whole New seven thousand Islands

1145
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:34.760
in Japan, I mean, I
mean it's very very obvious that you know,

1146
01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:40.640
they could easily easily hide more land
more continents. Who knows what I

1147
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:46.159
mean and like and I just recently
did seem like a depiction of a map

1148
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:53.640
where the basically like the ice wall
that they kind of depict was in the

1149
01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:58.800
shape of Antarctica. So they're kind
of using that almost like as like a

1150
01:21:59.479 --> 01:22:02.239
you know, putting that right in
her face of like just the outline of

1151
01:22:02.279 --> 01:22:08.800
Antarctica being with the outline around you
know, our world looks like. But

1152
01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:12.920
I mean, who knows, well, well, we'll know eventually. I'm

1153
01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:15.399
sure these things will be coming out
more and more. Yeah, I agree,

1154
01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:21.119
and I'm hope whether it's you know, in this life or looking down

1155
01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:25.600
from heaven, I can't wait to
actually, you know, find the truth.

1156
01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:29.039
And I think that the truth community
is growing every single day. I

1157
01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:31.600
think, like we talked about earlier, part of it is because they did

1158
01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:36.279
overplay their hands, and you know
from COVID and a lot of people are

1159
01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:42.079
seeing the evil that we see every
single day. And listen, I just

1160
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:46.399
want to thank you. You've been
a tremendous guest with your viewpoints and your

1161
01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:51.880
upbringing and it's just been very enlightening. Now I have another movie to watch,

1162
01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:58.199
The baron One Chasing Will check that
out. I'll make sure I'll put

1163
01:22:58.199 --> 01:23:00.279
the links in the show description,
but I certainly do want to give you

1164
01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:06.359
the opportunity for the last word.
Oh yeah. I think probably the only

1165
01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:12.439
real thing that I wanted to kind
of say was in regards to like the

1166
01:23:12.479 --> 01:23:19.039
whole creation story and where it basically
said God said too, he created the

1167
01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:24.479
earth and said to go forth and
replenish. And that word stuck with me,

1168
01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:29.319
the word replenish because this that prefix
of re I mean, that's kind

1169
01:23:29.359 --> 01:23:35.159
of in my mind that stands for
to do something again. I mean I

1170
01:23:35.159 --> 01:23:39.640
think I had it. Let see, I had written it, I write

1171
01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:44.760
it down, I screenshot it a
conversation with a friend of mine. I

1172
01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:46.520
mean, how can they replenish the
earth if you know, the whole Christian

1173
01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:49.760
understanding is that he's creating it for
the first time. And I believe that's

1174
01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:54.520
like the reset or the rebirth,
the restart. You know, every day,

1175
01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:57.760
you know, of our lives,
we see this pattern and cycle night

1176
01:23:57.760 --> 01:24:00.520
and day, the sun in the
moon, I mean, yearly, we

1177
01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:03.600
see the cycle of life and death, you know, and I rebirth through

1178
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:08.640
the seasons, I mean, with
the fall and spring. I mean we're

1179
01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:14.119
kind of reminded of reincarnation, you
know, constantly in a sense if you

1180
01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:16.520
really think about it. And I
think that, you know, the Bible

1181
01:24:16.600 --> 01:24:21.399
is like maybe a book about reincarnation, but I mean that's just that's just

1182
01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:27.680
my opinion. Well, it's certainly
being about born again, and it's it's

1183
01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:30.319
a great thing you said there,
because every day we wake up, we

1184
01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:34.079
have a new opportunity to make a
difference in other people's lives and to make

1185
01:24:34.079 --> 01:24:40.760
ourselves a little bit better. And
it's just been a tremendous ninety minutes with

1186
01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:44.079
you, and I appreciate it,
and I hope we cross paths again,

1187
01:24:44.319 --> 01:24:49.399
and God bless you and your family, and just been a great time spent

1188
01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:54.039
with you today, sir. Yeah, thank you too. Yeah, And

1189
01:24:54.439 --> 01:24:59.319
I'll reach out to you. I
follow you on Instagram, so I've sent

1190
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:01.680
you some things here in there and
we've had we've had a couple of conversations

1191
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:05.800
on there. But yeah, I'll
definitely be checking out your website and all

1192
01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:09.960
that stuff too, because I know
I've been kind of missing out on that.

1193
01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:13.760
I know you've got like a lot
of people on there that kind of

1194
01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:17.199
converse on there, So I'll be
checking that out. Awesome. Yeah,

1195
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:21.359
definitely do drop by share your thoughts
and to all the listeners too. You

1196
01:25:21.399 --> 01:25:25.560
can stop by the forum if you
have any questions about flat Earth. You

1197
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:27.920
can leave them there and then a
lot of people will you know, you'll

1198
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:30.239
get a lot of different opinions,
or you can simply I try to stop

1199
01:25:30.279 --> 01:25:32.560
by the chat room at least twice
a week just to drop in and say

1200
01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:36.479
hello to everybody. It's a it's
a wonderful community. Every single person I've

1201
01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:42.399
interviewed has just been tremendous, a
good hearted people, and this is really

1202
01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:45.680
a wonderful community. And I just
want to thank you Adrian and all the

1203
01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:50.720
listeners for helping this be a continued
success. For Adrian, I'm George.

1204
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:54.399
I hope everybody has a great week. God bless you, and until next

1205
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:57.399
time, keep your head on a
swivel and we will see you.