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Hey, welcome to Iron the Ball here

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on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm
Steve, here's Jay, and we're late.

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Sorry, Welcome to the show.
Hey, it's Monday, and I

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expect goofy things because we have no
interns in today except for Juan trying to

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learn the system with us. Welcome
everybody to Monday. A lot of things

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going on here on Monday. We
have a couple of good, well one

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good guests for sure, and then
in the first hour, what are we

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gonna do. We're gonna play the
Brent Brannan press conference from the uh post

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spring game press conference. You know, he had some interesting things to say,

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uh just how it went, how
he does things. Uh, some

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comments about North Flafida. Uh,
some injury stuff not talking about because if

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we about injuries, but just guys
will be ready, YadA, YadA,

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YadA. But we thought we'd just
going ahead play the whole thing because we

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don't have a guest for that first, uh for this first hour, so

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we'll give you all his thoughts on
on the spring game. I was impressed,

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more more impressed by the crowd than
anything more. Yeah, I think

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that was probably the most impressive thing
there was. I think I think if

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you were impressed, I was okay
with it because I really didn't kind of

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observe things. Uh, there's people
out there who thought it was kind of

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boring that I saw on the internet. And the offense was okay, but

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they're not gonna show everything obviously,
and what for, right, And a

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lot of the guys sat out.
Yeah, well and here's the thing.

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To me, it looked like football, yeah right, yeah, And and

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I know, I know, I
always go back back to the Kevin Someonlin

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spring games and and you know,
and uh fish fall fall practice, you

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know, the Kevin someone ones that
looked like you knew Arizona was in big

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trouble because he was he was unengaged. Yeah, there was no energy on

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the field. Uh, there were
a lot of people that looked like they

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didn't want to be there. And
and I thought that at the time,

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not you know, it's not after
the fact. I remember going to the

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first spring game and thinking this doesn't
look like you know, not, it

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just doesn't look like it has any
energy. And it turned out it didn't

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didn't. So you know, the
crowd was great. Uh you know,

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seven eight thousand somebody said maybe as
many as ten. Yeah, I can

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conservatively seven day there was at least
some excitement, uh bottom the bottle was

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full. The excitement there. And
it didn't need it didn't have the bells

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and whistles like wronk throwing water ballots
into the crowd and whatnot. But you

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know, the fans were, you
know, we're there and I think they

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saw that it still looks like football. Sure, I'm glad it doesn't the

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football, Steve. I mean,
you know sometimes it doesn't well like you

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said, in some time. Uh
no, no, so we'll talk about

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that. Do you when we when
we got on the field, did you

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hold your impression of the team size
wise? Smallish? They always look small.

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I you know, I remember when
I first started covering football. I

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I was surprised that you know the
size. I mean, yes, there's

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some big linemen and stuff, but
most most of mostly they're not huge guys.

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They don't get huge till junior seniors
or you know because they do.

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I remember I had I had an
opportunity because I was invited for something to

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be on the sideline of a Cardinals
gate and they're playing the red Skins,

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and I remember walking around those guys. They were massive. They looked so

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much bigger. I'm like, Okay, these guys do not look like guys

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you know out of that you used
to seeing, you know, the running

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backs, the quarterback, the linemeness
of it. They there was a big

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difference. There's some of those guys
on a college team, but most of

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the guys are not big guys.
Although I will say I walked by by

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by McMillan. He was he was
sitting under that overhang on the on the

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at the north end zone. He's
putting the cast, but he was standing

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up and as I walked by him
got bigger. Yeah, big. He's

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taller. He's taller than I remember. They're listening him at six five now,

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which I think last year was listened
at sixty four, so I don't

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know if he's still, but he
looks basketball tall right. I couldn't believe

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how tall he was. Well that's
how he gets the balls, you know.

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And him and some other guys out
there. I'm wondering how it's gonna

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if they look small or feel small, how that's going to translate because to

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the Big twelve, because we haven't
really seen that regularly, right, and

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the PAC ten PAC twelve has been
more of a stealthy type of conference rather

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than big type of conference. Yeah, I mean, I I kind of

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agree. I think, you know, we we like to uh convince ourselves

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that these these other conferences are all
so much bigger, you know, SEC

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guys. I remember all the way, all the way back to the that

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the eighty five Georgia Arizona Sun Bowl, being on the sidelines of that,

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and I was, I went,
I was on the Georgia sideline for a

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while and thinking those guys were huge. And then you know, catching a

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festival with Tennessee in it, and
I thought, Okay, Arizona doesn't have

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those guys. But the Big twelve
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the SEC. So I think size
wise, as far as that goes,

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Arizona will be fine. Uh,
I don't know. Yeah, we'll see.

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Yeah, we won't know until we
know exactly, you know. I

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mean, look, we saw Arizona
got pushed around by Washington in the game

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last year, right, I mean, Amzona was it wasn't right off,

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I mean, and it was a
seven point game, But Arizona was never

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gonna in that game. They got
they got pushed around. I thought they

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got pushed around a bit by Oklahoma, right, But let's remember those are

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top teams in those leagues. Oklahoma
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best teams in the in the in
the Big twelve. Washington was the best

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team in the Pac twelve. So
I don't expect it to be as much

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of a factor or so obvious as
Arizona heads into the Big twelve. Like

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I think they'll be able to,
you know, to uh hold their own

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as far as all that goes.
Okay, well, we'll see in time.

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Only time will tell, right,
And now we won't see these guys

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for a while now, because they'll
come back in June. Is That's what

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no one said, right, right, And then work out on the summer,

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and then get ready for the fall
here in early August, and then

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until the first game August thirty first
at New Mexico. Yeah, you know,

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and again you and I did not
get to see a bunch of the

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practice and stuff like that. I
mean I made the comment when we were

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we were up in the press box
and it just no, Fafita just throws

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a great ball. You know,
he's he's decisive, he's you know,

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he makes good throws. He can
throw, you know, he can throw

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the long ball. I don't know. I don't think anybody thinks he's got

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the strongest arm around. But he's
got a good enough arm. He can

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make the sideline throws. You can
tell that he's a quarterback that's unlike most

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quarterbacks at Arizona, has gone into
the season with So let me ask you,

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because you mentioned this earlier, what
were your impressions of him coming into

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the locker room? Well, you
know, which is the press company?

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Well in the press conference, you
know, and we had it was the

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car the tight end was there,
Yeah, and Malie Riley, the Riccardo,

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Yeah, Ricardo Mendoza that his name, and then Malchi Ridley were in

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there answering questions. It was okay, you know, we're they were talking.

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No Feeto walks in the room and
I thought the room changed, you

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know. He was about four or
five minutes yeah later, Yeah, he

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didn't know that he was supposed to
be in there. Why did you think

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that this is gonna sound really corny? And he's a what nineteen year old,

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twenty year old dude. He has
a presence, He's got a presence.

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He walked in the room and he
sat down at the table, and

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the table was different. Contest Stanford
game to me. Yeah, I know

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you keep throwing that out, but
the room was different. You could see

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it. He walked in and there's
the there's a thing that some people just

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have and some people don't. I'm
not comparing him to Loot, but I'm

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talking about the kind of thing when
Lout walked in a room, the room

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is different. There have been guys
like that, you know, there have

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been coaches who don't have that.
Well, dead fish doesn't have that,

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right, Yeah, No, and
her, Yeah, he came in the

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room and there was just a different
buzz to the room. Yeah no,

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I hear you. I felt it
too, to a degree. I felt

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that in his presence and his his
not his presence, put his voice because

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he had this hmmm. He's a
very bright kid, a very bright kid

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because he says all the right things
right, and I don't think it's rehearsed.

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I think it's just how he feels, right, And then you see

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him on you see people read tweet
or whatever he does on Facebook, and

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and and and on Twitter that this
guy is thoughtful, thoughtful, And now

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he thinks there's a confidence, right, he's sure of himself, which needs

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me to believe. And I wasn't
gonna I didn't write, yes, trying

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to write from the game, but
he wasn't really feeling it. But I'm

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thinking makes you wonder what a Jed? What did Jed not see or is

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refusing to see him playing in playing
De Laura before? I don't know,

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you know what I'm saying, Yeah, because you think if this guy has

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that, I mean, why did
he wait that night show that right?

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And if it was so, if
it's so obvious to us, how did

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he not see it? Or what
was it that? What was his loyalty

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to great De Laura? You know, even three games after no Ifa had

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gone on the field and shown what
he could do. I just, uh,

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I'll never I don't think I'll ever
understand that, Steve, because I

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think that he just for some reason, he just felt like he was loyal

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to yeah, and maybe to a
fault, to a fault. And again

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I've said before, I understand that, you know, without Jade and de

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Laura, you don't get no Ah
Alfida. So you were given Jayden Dolaura

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every benefit of the doubt. But
there came a time when that's it.

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You can't, you know, there's
no decision to be made anymore. Now,

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Ultimately, no Ah Flfieda forced his
hand and made him played so well

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that Jed could do nothing but leave
him in there. You know, he

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would have he would have emptied the
stadium if you'd have gone back to DeLaura

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as the starter. So he saw
what he had to do and he and

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he did it. But it,
you know, it took a little more.

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So I don't know, I don't
know who was what he wasn't seeing

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that that everybody else sees. Now
why I'm here. Did you watch a

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lot of football last year? Were
you? Yeah? And what were your

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impressions of just the conversation we've had
from DeLaura to Frafida And did you have

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the same impressions as the student Oh, all of a stead, all of

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the students diad we knew that Faffido
was going to be the guy at the

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end of the season. And it
was just a matter of time, of

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formalities and him proving himself. Even
so, I work at the rec center

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at the U A right t mac
Fafita. They all come in during the

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summer to play volleyball, whatever they
want to do, and you could see

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it. He was the leader of
that group. So when when he got

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the chance, I was excited.
And when he started to show what I

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thought he could do, it was
like, all right, so when is

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he going to be named the starter? So when is he going to be

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that guy? So, Jay,
it's not so I think my observations were

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correct back in Stamford. I think
your observations are correct here because it's almost

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too obvious. Yeah, I mean, to Want's point, it's like it's

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like, Okay, you're right.
He was the leader of these guys,

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and all of a sudden he walked
on the field. That's what these guys

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were waiting for, right exactly,
And then all of a sudden it was

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there. And it's like, you're
right, Steve, because remember I kind

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of disagreed and was it then with
a little month disagreed. He didn't he

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didn't agree with players don't do that? What do they do that? Or

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there's there's something there. Does that
make sense? Yeah, No, there

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can be. And that's what I
saw in Stanford. Some it's like when

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your star pitcher comes in the game, all of a sudden, you're gonna

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play a little bit better defense because
you know you have confidence in the guy

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on the mound and you feel like
you need to be ready. There's also

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to the opposite of that, when
your star pitcher comes in or starting,

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you don't play. You don't play
maybe as well as you should because your

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starter, he's your starter, He's
gonna be fantastic. You don't have to

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be that Many times you say the
starters is gonna play and they lose,

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and you how did that happen?
Because you know some starters don't get the

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run the red production that they should, right right. I think even your

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guy the left for the Dodgers wasn't
what was his name? Krisha suffers that

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a lot. Yeah, and then
how does that happen? It's unexplainable what

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happens. But you know, I
feel like seeing this now and seeing more

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of and what he's become, you
kind of get I get it, I

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get why you why you you saw
that? And now that I think about

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it. You know, they were
a different team when he was on the

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shore, whether they didn't like Delora
or they liked him, and just different.

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It happens. You stand up more
straight, you performed better, right,

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you die for the ball, you
respect the he out of the eye.

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You know, you know, maybe
Team Act you know, jumps an

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inch or two higher because you know, you know, going after the ball,

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right, because yeah, And whether
whether you think that's fair or right

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or what, it's more about human
nature than about well, I don't like

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Jade DeLaura, so I'm not going
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you've talked about how you know,
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that's it. We'll talk more about
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what's all this? All right,
We're gonna come back, We're gonna play

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the entire al, said Tommy Lloyd, the entire Brandon press conference post spring

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game. He had some interesting stuff
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then how they go on from here, So stick around for all that.

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Coach Brennan at his postgame post spring
game press conference. We'll play it

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in its entirety and you can we'll
talk about it afterward listening what you think.

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Here's coach Brent. Overall, though, how do you look back on

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the last five weeks and where you're
all get done. It's been great,

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it's been awesome, really excited about
the process and the development of some of

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the players. You know, as
you go through spring you get guys like

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dinged up and you know, some
of that stuff, and so it gives

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like like Noah saying, other guys
an opportunity to play and practice and get

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meaningful reps. And so you know, that's when you see some guys do

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some really good stuff. And I
think you know this. The spring game

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is always such an interesting thing because
you're the biggest thing is you just want

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to come out of its healthy and
safe, right, So you're trying to

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but you also want to play a
little bit and you want to put on

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a show for the fans, and
you know, I thought the guy settled

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in and it was fun, you
know, sort towards the end there where

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we started to trade a little bit
of punches. But it's a The spring

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game is always a complicated thing for
coaches grand someone. Most of it was

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blocker last year, and you guys
kind of open things up for him in

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a big way this spring. What
do you know about him coming in and

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what have you seen out of him? Actually he was a little bit of

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an unknown coming in outside of the
film we watch. You know, I

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do think that Matt Atkins is one
of the best tight end coaches in the

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country. We consistently had all conference
tight ends at San Jose State. It's

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a it's a position that's important to
us and so and it's a it's a

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position that we utilize a lot.
And and also, you know, Kean

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was a little bit dinged up,
and so that gave Berto a chance to

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get more reps. And you know, we all get better with practice,

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at least I hope we are.
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good to see him start to do
some stuff. Do you bring exit interviews

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since you're not going to be seeing
guys for a little while at least on

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the theater. The coaches will yeah, yeah, all of the assistant coaches

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will meet with the players. This
is a little bit tricky one because I'm

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this is a really small window.
I don't know that it'd be really fair

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for me to do the kind of
evaluation I do with players normally it's like

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an annual thing, right, and
so it takes into consideration the seasons spring

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practice, their academics, their process, you know, how they handle their

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business, and so it would be
a little bit different. So we went

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back and forth on it as a
staff. But the coaches are going to

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make sure all the players know where
they stand and what they need to do

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to improve and the things that they've
done well. Also with the would stay

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of personnel and rosters affordably, they're
still being open having open spot. Maybe

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you expect it kind of really no
road. That's an awesome question, and

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if you know the answer, to
go ahead and tell me. You know,

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I think that's that's just the world
we're living in now, right and

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everyone's trying to find the best way
to navigate it. It's definitely complicated,

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you know, And and I know
the NCAA and and and all the conferences

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and all the coaches. Everyone's trying
to figure out the best calendar and how

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it, you know, can serve
the players and serve the game of football.

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And you know, I don't think
we figured that out yet. You

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haven't. You didn't coach those guys
at Arizona. But what what? How

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is it? How important is it
to have NFL draft picks into shoot?

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I think it's huge, you know, I think it's critical because every player

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that you recruit, his dream is
to play in the NFL. And you

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want to be able to demonstrate that
you can develop players and put them into

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or they can come to the U
of A and and get to the next

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level. And so I think it's
critical. And and that was awesome to

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see those guys. I've had a
chance to meet all those guys, and

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you know, and I'm sure I
haven't heard yet because of the game,

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but I'm sure we had a handful
of others signed free agent deals. So

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it seems like a lot of Wildcats
are gonna get a chance to chase that

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NFL dream and it's gonna be fun
to watch. Is there anything anyone that

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sit out to you in real time? That's always so hard to say,

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you know, I thought, you
know, we had a couple of nice

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catches out there at the end,
you know, and uh By, you

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know, Brandon Phelps and and Devin
Hyatt was really nice and Rex made that

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nice grab. I thought the tight
ends made some nice plays over the middle

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of the field, you know,
ripped off a couple of nice runs.

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I've been really impressed with where our
defense is at. You know, I

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think there's been just real continuity there
over spring with the with coach of Kina

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being here and some of the other
coaches on that side of the ball,

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and so that's given you know,
I think it's important in spring practice that

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you essentially trade punches right offense versus
defense. It can't if it's really lopsided,

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You're gonna have a problem in the
fall. And so, you know,

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I thought that was really good.
Just you know, I'm so impressed

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with a lot of players on our
defense, and I think they're the staff's

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doing a great job coaching them.
And so, you know, continue to

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be impressed with all the guys in
the secondary right to Carrio, you know,

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Gunner Stukes, I mean, Dalton
really really impressive with those guys.

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Those guys are doing. And then
up front, I think we're really excited

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about a couple of those guys and
so you know, Ti Tigh and you

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know tray Smiss done some really good
stuff. Isaiah. It's it's a it's

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awesome and it's good for me because
I've coached with you know, most of

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the staff before and so there's a
lot of trust there. And I really

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believe in the in the men that
that are coaching these players and their ability

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to develop them into great players.
And I'm excited for that process to continue.

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I'm kind of bummed springs over.
I guess it's just a long answer.

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I just gave you. It's all
over the place with it. But

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I'm bumming spring practice is over because
now we don't really get to get out

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on the field with them for three
months. You know, I told you

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that easier to day ve mon name
and coach a Keta coaching up some of

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the young future Wildcats on the field. It's awesome. You know. I

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think that you know that that next
level flag football program is such a cool

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thing to see. It's you know, what happens. I'm kind of in

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the winter time here and they they
practice in the indoor and you know,

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in the Davis indoor, and they
they play on the you know in Arizona

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Stadium. They play the games there, and it's just awesome. There's young

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people running all over playing football.
It's like a safe, fun environment.

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Our players do an incredible job of
coaching it. Brandon Sanders does a great

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job of organizing it and the structure
of it. So it's a it's a

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cool it's a really cool program.
And and I think that's one of the

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things that's special about this city is
just how connected it is with the university

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and our players feel that. And
so that's why our players put so much

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into that next level flag football thing. Like that's why you saw Noah and

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Kevin Green and those guys run out
there and start coaching those guys. It's

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just a lot of fun. Now, questions went on the offense. Did

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you expect that the running back?
You think? I think so, I

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think so. Yeah. And Tristan
Dats I noticed he was playing inside six

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six seventy five or so. Is
that because you need him there or is

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that like a long term maybe that. I think what you'll find with coach

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Sam Alo is that those guys will
play all the spots, and more players

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will play there than you're used to. He's big on them being fresh and

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them being able to play really hard. I mean, redline all the way.

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And so he's gonna that's gonna have
a little bit different look. I

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think you'll see more guys get opportunities
to play. You're coaching all the last

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season, did you what you know
about it? Did you see a level

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of amp with this spring that you
hope to see? What did you see

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from? Didn't know where? Oh? Shoot? The beauty of it is

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how he attacks practice. I just
like, I've been doing this a long

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time now, and the best players
are incredible practice players, Like I've never

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I've never had a player who sucked
at practice and was dominant on Saturday.

408
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:19.839
I've never seen it. And so
you know, and the thing's so beautiful

409
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.319
about Noah is he's always trying to
learn. He's always trying to improve.

410
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.119
He's always in there with coach Babers, He's always in the facility. He's

411
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.119
always asking me in between series like, hey, what do you see?

412
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:32.799
And he's just he wants to be
coached all the time, and he just

413
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:36.519
absorbs information at an incredible rate,
and that was something that was really fun

414
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:40.880
because there was a little bit of
scheme variation right with kind of marrying some

415
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.839
of the Verbigion concepts that they were
that the players were comfortable with with what

416
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.680
we had done in the past,
and he just did a great job with

417
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:59.559
that last question. Well, I
hope any player that comes around, I

418
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.240
really hope anybody that comes around our
program can feel that it's a great place

419
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.880
to be, that it's a fun
place to be, and it's an exciting

420
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.720
place to be and where like the
people really care about each other. And

421
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:15.000
I think everybody says that. Everybody
says family or whatever, and I don't

422
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.400
think it's real at most places,
but it's real here and we're going to

423
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:19.960
double down on that. And to
the credit of these players, they had

424
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.519
that when I came in and so, but that's always been something that's been

425
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.480
a huge part of the programs I've
been associated with, and that's something that

426
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.480
we're going to double down on.
And I want everyone to feel that.

427
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.000
I want you all to feel that
with our players, I want the fans

428
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.480
to feel that. I want everyone
to feel great about when they're here,

429
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.319
when they're around our players when they're
in this building. I want them to

430
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.920
feel great about how it feels that
we're having a great time playing college football

431
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:47.079
and we're going to love every minute
of it. Well, and there you

432
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:52.880
have it. Interesting stuff. Another
thing from him. He's very a very

433
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.079
candidate in what he says, and
not in a crazy way, right,

434
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.680
he just says how he feels.
Well, he's not rehearsed at all.

435
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.920
Right, And and you know,
I think not salesmany and that's not it's

436
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.640
not not anybody, right, not
a criticism, but Jed was a salesman.

437
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:11.960
You know. Sean Miller was very
you know, this is what he

438
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.519
was gonna say, no matter what
the question was, whether you answer the

439
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.880
question or not right, and and
so uh and and and and Brendan,

440
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:22.880
you know he kind of sits back
in his seat and just chats with you

441
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.839
that that's that's that's kind of what
I know is in fact, I want

442
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.200
to tell me, can you leap
forward into the microphone so we can make

443
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:32.400
sure trying to tell him that right, we're hearing you, but you know

444
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.640
you need to be in the microphone
for the for the for the for the

445
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:41.240
audio. But you know he's he's
he's relaxed. He's just he's just having

446
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.400
a conversation. He's not I don't
feel like he comes in there with I

447
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.880
got to get these points across.
Sure, right, you get a question,

448
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.000
you get an answer. I think
Jed came in, he had notes,

449
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.240
things he wanted to say. He
always had an introducing in an introductory

450
00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.599
statement of comment. You know,
I didn't play, but Brandon walked in

451
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.759
said okay, what do you got? And then and the press conference was

452
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.440
on. You know, so I
think you know, did a different style.

453
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.440
For short, not saying that one
style is better or worse than the

454
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:14.559
other, I just saying that he's
a different guy. I do think we

455
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.200
kind of knew him back in the
day, right back early ninety nine and

456
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:19.759
whatever it was two thousand. We
knew him from then, you and I,

457
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.200
and we know him just as much
today. We really don't know him

458
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:26.039
more that much. I think he's
going to be I think I think the

459
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:30.440
program's in good hands, right And
I think because and I'm gonna ask you

460
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.440
a question now, I really don't
have an answer to that. He has

461
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.039
the people around him like Jed who
will help facilitate the process. If that

462
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.680
makes any sense because Jed was a
good CEO. I think that's undeniable.

463
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.119
And to tell you truth, I
don't know how good of a coaching three

464
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.720
years in. I don't. I
don't because what do we know? He

465
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.920
had good people around him. Maybe
you feel differently. I think his offense

466
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.039
was really good. Okay, he
was calling the offense right. It took

467
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.240
it took a couple of years.
Yeah, but I think his offense was

468
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:02.960
really good. And you know they
won ten games. Okay, to that

469
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:04.400
point, I was just gonna ask
you a question, even for basketball,

470
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.079
for at this level, at this
level, and even the NBA or put

471
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:12.920
an NFL, what's the job of
a coach? Is there to teach or

472
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:18.319
there to manage? Manage? Because
it's not the coach. The coaches on

473
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.720
the field CoA coach, right,
the head coach should manage. Now,

474
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:26.519
Jed was a little bit more of
a coach and a manager, you know

475
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.240
he But I think I think he
let his defensive coaches just do whatever.

476
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.880
Just said, just give me a
good defense, give me a good enough

477
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:36.359
defense. I don't have to score
forty points a game, sure, right.

478
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.160
My impression is that that's how he
ran his program and in that sense.

479
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:44.400
He was sort of a CEO and
said, go do your work right

480
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:48.160
and if it's not any good,
I'll let you know, okay, And

481
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.720
then he ran the offense. I
think he was hands on, maybe even

482
00:31:52.759 --> 00:32:00.599
a maybe my micro manager has a
bad connotation because you feel like at somebody

483
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.519
put del who's Delvidian stuff that you
know, you let the other guys do.

484
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:06.519
But he was something like that.
But he was something like that.

485
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.359
He was not maybe not a micro
manager, but maybe just a notch less

486
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:14.039
than that. Sure, because he
was running the offense. He was running,

487
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.440
he was calling the plays. He
wanted to know what he had and

488
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.160
if he didn't have something, he
wanted to see how am I gonna get

489
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.599
that? That's your impression and kind
of my impression too. But we don't

490
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:28.480
know. We haven't asked any of
the assistants how truly was he with them,

491
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.440
but that I do know that,
I do know that he was.

492
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.279
I think I say this publicly,
be careful that he was a little pushy

493
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:39.720
or very pushy when it came to
getting money from the locals because he needed

494
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.920
the money to have to pay the
kids, right, you know, so

495
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:45.799
he was over the top with them. Yeah, I don't know if you

496
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:51.000
heard the same thing. Yeah,
you know, kind of like get this

497
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:55.480
stuff done. Ye, no,
I hear you. You know, I

498
00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:00.799
I've heard little bits and pieces from
It's like second hand information from the assistant

499
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:05.599
coaches, some of whom liked his
style and some of whom. And you're

500
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.119
not gonna win everybody over the right
and no matter who you have. And

501
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.359
when you got a staff of as
many many people as sure as these college

502
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:15.640
football staffs, you know, you
get guys from different places, maybe guys

503
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:17.079
that you have history with, maybe
some guys you don't have a history with,

504
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.480
and you bring them in and you
try and mix them up. Yeah,

505
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.599
you're gonna have You're gonna have different
impressions of of you know, from

506
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.440
from different people. So I you
know, I think Jed was a good

507
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.720
coach. I think he's been a
good coach. I think he grew into

508
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:31.799
being a pretty good coach. I
don't know if he's good enough to be

509
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:38.079
the coach at Washington yet. We'll
find out, but he certainly along the

510
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:43.680
way has grown into his He was
a much better coach by the time he

511
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:47.000
left than he was when he got. Sure, you saw the growth process

512
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.359
even in him. Well we also
said that you become a better coach with

513
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.160
better players. Well that's true,
but guess who had something to do that

514
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:59.240
he did by helping get those better. All right, let's take our second

515
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:00.400
break. We're gonn come back.
Would love to take your costs. Tell

516
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.440
us what you thought of the spring
game. If you went, you know,

517
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.240
was it was it exciting? Did
you? Was it kind of eh?

518
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.760
I thought it was a good crowd. They stuck around, you know,

519
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.079
nobody left early. It was short, which was nice. People got

520
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.719
to go on a Saturday night and
wherever they went afterwards. So just give

521
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.039
us your thoughts on the spring games. That will take it costs five to

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Surgery I on the Ball. Hey,

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welcome back to I on the Ball
here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve, He's Jay. Have one
in with us today our new apprentice,

561
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:20.400
hopefully I want to talk to about
one thing. You know whose name we

562
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:24.760
have not heard after the draft has
been done. Jen Dolores, I google

563
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:30.280
him just now, not because you
have a contractor to this point. So

564
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:32.800
I was gonna ask you, do
you think its career is over given the

565
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:37.400
circumstances of what's that I do?
I thought I thought it was. I

566
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.880
thought it was over when Texas State
wouldn't let him in, right right,

567
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:49.000
right, because he's he's not He's
not a level of talent that you could

568
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.719
have baggage, right right right.
I think that's the way to put it.

569
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:58.360
No, you can't. You can't
have skeletons in your closet. I

570
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:00.960
mean, if you're a great player, you know, people will overlook him,

571
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.800
sure, But if you're not,
it's like if there's another guy like

572
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.880
you who doesn't have your baggage one
to one. You're a student on campus,

573
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:12.679
you're an older student on campus.
You saw probably what happened in Texas

574
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.679
State when he left. Was there
any was there any not thought or whatever,

575
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:21.639
because you probably just cage the community
at the campus of why is he

576
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.519
still on the team when this broke? Yeah, there's definitely a lot of

577
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:29.079
talk about that. There's a lot
of people upset that he was on the

578
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.559
team because you see nowadays, when
something like that comes out, they're immediately

579
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:35.239
off the team, even if there's
any doubt. So it was just kind

580
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:39.199
of a lot of questioning of why
he was still on the team. At

581
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:42.400
the end of the day, all
of us just wanted a football team that

582
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.320
won. Yeah, and there it
is, right, you you make exceptions

583
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.760
to to the quarterback. And I
think we talked about this, and I

584
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.079
know I think that ad the beginning, if he wasn't the quarterback, he

585
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:57.320
probably would have been. I think
we said that quite a bit back back

586
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:02.119
then, especially with no emerge and
and and and the Lord became expendable,

587
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:08.400
which brings into question, say,
Okay, if he was expendable, then

588
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:14.920
why was he there in the first
place, right if if if again as

589
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:19.679
to the loyalty of Jed, Right, but but again, think about it,

590
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.039
Steve, If Jed and the team
did not know about this before he

591
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:25.639
got here, then they didn't do
their own due diligence on him before they

592
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:29.599
brought him in. Yeah, I
know they said they did. But how

593
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:31.840
could you not know? You know, how could you? How could you

594
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:35.000
not have somebody call you and say, hey, wait, this guy you're

595
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.840
talking to he's got this, you
know. So I don't buy that they

596
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:43.039
didn't know. I really don't.
I never did. I think we accepted

597
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.840
it because that's what they said,
and who are we to say? But

598
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.719
but I I don't know that I
ever really believed that they did not.

599
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:55.239
They these guys know usually know everything
that they need to know, and they

600
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:59.639
needed and and you know what,
in the end, uh, he served

601
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:05.239
a purpose. Yeah, uh you
know he Uh he attracted other guys.

602
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:10.199
He created hope for this program.
And I'll give him that. But you

603
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:13.719
know, you make a mistake like
that, you know in your youth,

604
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:19.239
it can it can go on for
let's take let's take this call. Hi,

605
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.679
You're on the Aaron, I am
the ball afternoon your guys. This

606
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.679
is Gabe. How are you guys
doing. We're good, Gabe, how

607
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:30.559
are you doing. I'm good.
Just enjoying my birthday day. So your

608
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:35.559
birthday, Gabe. Happy birthday.
Thank you Jay, Thank you Steve.

609
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.639
I really appreciate you guys. I
hope everything is going well for you,

610
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:44.320
Gab. Gabe, real quick,
it makes sense now. I'm a tourist

611
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:49.199
and you're a tourist. No wonder
you always upset? What do you mean?

612
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.559
What do you mean by taurus?
So what do you got in your

613
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:59.239
mind today? Gabe? I know
it's that Arizona Arizona men's basketball got age

614
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:07.880
for out of Tennessee and also I
and then yesterday and today Arizona football got

615
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:15.440
a online U from Oregon and they
and Arizona football gone up its transfer from

616
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:21.280
the University of Utah. I think
it was a linebacker or cornerback. He's

617
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:27.159
an edge rushers. The edge rusher. Yes, Okay, well anyway,

618
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:32.639
I'm not gonna complaining. I'm not
one of those dumbasses on Facebook questioning both

619
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:37.360
Tommy Lloyds and Brent Brennan's recruiting.
So good for you, good for you.

620
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:43.719
I fully trust book coaches smart.
Yeah, no, you know,

621
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.039
and and again you know, because
of the way it all is now,

622
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.519
you have to just wait for coaches
to get their get their rosters finished.

623
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:53.880
And it's gonna take as long as
the portals open. There's still movement available.

624
00:41:54.000 --> 00:42:00.320
It's open I think till day after
tomorrow at least of football. Yeah,

625
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.360
I totally agree. Hey, one
more scene. Did you see the

626
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:13.159
Jordan Washington, a commit from Arizona
did He basically tweeted a University of Washington

627
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:20.519
umbrella umbrellas the spring game. There
were four purple umbrellas in the tweet and

628
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.960
here's the here's the rub though he
was up the game. Yes, he's

629
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:30.719
in the transfer portal. So I
just kind of, what are you doing?

630
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:37.079
Kid? If I know re Brenda
is a very nice person, but

631
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:42.159
if I was bredfreend, Hey,
kid a Jordan Washington, if you don't

632
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.679
want to be here, then transfer
out. We don't want We don't want

633
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:53.360
you to tweet that kind of Mediocurt
saying crew Arizona, I'd rather just be

634
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:59.000
at Washington. Well he was at
he was. I don't want you,

635
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.199
we don't want If you know,
committed to us, then then we don't

636
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:06.639
want you. What's your opinion,
Jake, Well, I think I think

637
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.599
I think some of that has has
had to change, because you know,

638
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:14.440
if if a guy goes in the
portal and you still want me to come

639
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.000
back, because going in the portal
doesn't mean one hundred percent that they're leaving.

640
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:21.280
Now, granted it usually does,
but guys have gone in the portal

641
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:23.039
and we're waiting on to Cario Davis
here, who's been in the portal,

642
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:28.079
and and he's been he's been playing
in practice and stuff, and I know

643
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.400
Brent Brandon would like to have him
back. But so I think it some

644
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:36.360
of that has had to change just
because of the nature of all of this.

645
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:43.159
But now Ta Carrio Davis did not
tweet four purple umbrellas to Caario Davis.

646
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:45.280
You know, he was a practice, He's been a practice, he's

647
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:51.920
been participating. Jordan Washington tweets this, that gives an indication he's headed for

648
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:53.679
Washington, yet he's still out of
out there on the field. I thought

649
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:58.280
I was a little low on his
part for sure. Yeah, just like

650
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:06.199
efesions talk when he was selling his
jerseys and that sasco. Even Jacob Goodaka,

651
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.639
who is just basically committed to the
team on North. He didn't say

652
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:15.039
like he didn't and like put Arizona's
name in the muddy. He's just basically,

653
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:20.559
Hey, I'm just going to the
school out north. Sorry if we

654
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:25.519
kind of don't agree with that,
and you know my opinion about those kind

655
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:30.280
of people, but anyway, I'm
not gonna call them my favorite kind of

656
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.239
work. Yeah, we appreciate that. We gab all right, Gabe,

657
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:40.239
Hey, thanks a bunch man,
appreciate it. Happy birthday. Yeah.

658
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.000
You know what coaches have to do
more than go out get people in the

659
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:50.400
portal. They have to recruit the
guys already have. Well, that's just

660
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.400
a tough state, that thing,
you know, And and it's again it's

661
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:58.320
different now. You can't you can't. You can't crap on a player when

662
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.199
they say I'm jumping in the port
because they might be just jumping in the

663
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:06.559
portal to see if there's another opportunity. Sure, and you have to respect

664
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.079
that to a degree. But again, don't jump into portal. Say I'm

665
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:14.800
at Arizona and I'm tweeting, you
know, washing husky stuff. But this

666
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:16.320
is the worst time to be a
coach. We've talked about the number of

667
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:21.159
time so so the thing is,
it's because the it's like you're owning a

668
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.599
business and it's your employees that run
the show, right, because right now

669
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.639
the kids are running the show.
They are they have all the power and

670
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:30.920
it ain't gonna change until it changes. It changes. They have the power

671
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:36.519
because they can be because of the
ability to go anywhere they want to go.

672
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.920
You know, it's all at any
time. It's all up to them.

673
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.639
So yeah, no, it's a
and that's just that's just the way

674
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:47.199
it is. And I hate the
fact that we've got to get used to

675
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:50.119
it. But we've got to get
used to it. And it's going to

676
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:54.679
be like this from now until somebody
changes the rules, right or even that

677
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:59.159
implies there are there are no rules
until somebody makes up some rules. Sure

678
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:04.119
make it more at least at least
direct, Yes, because and I think

679
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.639
the next step and we Corey talks
about it the best. They become employees.

680
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.559
And then you get to get it
back. Sign contract, sign contracts.

681
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:15.400
Sorry to tell you, Jay,
you're just not performing. You got

682
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:20.360
to look elsewhere. Yeah, and
your paycheck and your paycheck that ends next

683
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.400
week. Yeah, Well, but
the contract is a contract. Let's say

684
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.360
you got a contract with the u
of A for two for two years.

685
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:29.840
Well, even if you suck,
you know, maybe you don't play.

686
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:35.920
But whether it's guaranteed money or whatever, as long as you're reading whatever expectations

687
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:37.960
are in the contract, grades wise
and all that kind of stuff, you're

688
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:40.320
gonna you're gonna be able to stay
on the team that you might not play.

689
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:47.000
We got a call, uh,
we got take Cahi. You're on

690
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:52.079
the air and I on the ball. Hey, Hi, guys, Hello,

691
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:58.760
who's this Kevin? You haven't are
you? Your background is covering your

692
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:01.360
voice up? Yeah, very loud. Yeah, I'm good. Hey,

693
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:07.480
Just a couple of things about the
Spring game quick. Personally, I had

694
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:12.760
a great time because I met kids
that I had as football players years ago.

695
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:15.840
I was a head resident for four
years before I became a dean of

696
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:21.639
students, and so we had a
great time swapping stories. But the game

697
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:30.679
number when it was in the game, but they played music incessantly through it,

698
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.880
which was disturbing. It just to
me, it would have been nicer

699
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:40.960
to have more of a game atmosphere, because, let's face it, football

700
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.159
coaches and programs are in the entertainment
business, and I think we could have

701
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:50.599
done that a little different. But
I love this coaching staff. I think

702
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.559
our team is going to be very
good, and I would urge everybody to

703
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:57.719
get tickets and be a part of
it. You're talking about former players.

704
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.840
You're talking about some of the veteran
players, right that you So, yeah,

705
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:07.400
I'm talking about guys that have more
aches in their body than you can

706
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:12.079
say you pick at. It was
I bet who We had some great stories

707
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.800
about, not only the players,
but the coaches, and uh, you

708
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:22.559
know, later I became the disciplinarian
university. So if a football player or

709
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:29.559
a basketball player had a problem of
their coaches felt very close to me and

710
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:31.920
sent me those kids their way,
and I straightened out a few of them.

711
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:36.280
My fight, What what years?
What years were these? What were

712
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:38.800
you? What years? Well?
The kids, the kids that I took

713
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:46.159
pictures of up in the Sands club
where it's like justin Lenae and uh and

714
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:54.320
uh, they were freshmen in nineteen
sixty nine, So we're talking about all

715
00:48:54.400 --> 00:49:00.719
guys. They've been around this university, they've supported it. And I got

716
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:05.119
to hung out and hang out with
h hammer Schmid for quite a while and

717
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:07.719
had a great time with him.
Yea good for you. Good for you.

718
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:12.119
Thanks thanks Kevin perfect and having Hey, thanks about man. I appreciate

719
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.199
it. Yeah, I love you
guys, do a great job for it.

720
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:19.199
Thank you, Thank you. Kevin
has been there forever. I was

721
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.639
gonna ask him our guy eighty nine, eighty eight, eighty nine, Uh

722
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:28.000
skate country. Oh, Melvin Smith, how would you would have handled that?

723
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.679
Because I thought maybe he was there
during that Yeah, but no,

724
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:32.880
no, yeah, and we all
know that that Dick Tomy was a little

725
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.320
more lean. He was. He
was you know, well and he was

726
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:38.400
here, as you said, your
ceo. You want to talk about a

727
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:43.000
guy who was a consonate ceo.
He I mean, you know, watching

728
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.320
him at a practice, he was
just letting me walk around, walking around,

729
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.000
walking around, and if he saw
something right, he jumped in.

730
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:53.079
Yeah, but he was he was
really really do took on there, that

731
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:59.800
ceo. How would you describe I
only got a minute and this maybe two.

732
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:06.400
How would you describe that era of
his? The late eighties early nine,

733
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.360
even because you've been here all you
left no revision's history. No,

734
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:20.119
I mean you felt like the team
was always solid, but not you know,

735
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.559
I mean they had that they had
the great season in ninety three.

736
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:27.360
You just felt like, you felt
like they were always close. They were

737
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.599
always competitive. They didn't have losing
seasons, but they weren't. Yeah,

738
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:35.400
but they weren't quite getting there,
and and sometimes it was bad breaks.

739
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.239
Sometimes it was you know, mistakes, coaching mistakes. You just felt like

740
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:43.400
they were always on the edge of
it and just never took that last step.

741
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:46.159
So how would you good old days? I mean to me, it

742
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:50.960
was because, you know what,
because you liked the team. You liked

743
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.760
his team, because you liked his
players the team, and you liked the

744
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:58.320
coaching staff, and I just felt
like it was a it was a great

745
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:01.400
fun time. Frustrating though, because
you felt like it just didn't quite get

746
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:06.119
right. And eventually this was kind
of fire. Yeah, all right,

747
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:07.599
let's take our break. We're gonna
come back. We're gonna breaking news,

748
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:12.599
and then we'll have our Saul Bookman
talking about the Phoenix Sun stick around.

