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You're listening to the downbeat on ninety
seven to one the freak. All right,

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thirty minutes away from the scuttle Butt, we have a rare death via

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animal hadn't happened in ninety four years. What animal is it? I'll tell

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you. Plus wild update on that
story told you about in Mesquite yesterday,

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Real wild update on that and more. Nine o'clock, WI have a guest

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in studio. It's Jeff skin Wade. Don't tell you, Jeff skin Wade.

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There's a good damn reason. It's
a huge week for our very own

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Danny baylis Amson, Jeff skin Wade
and Frayone wants the party this weekend.

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A couple occasions to party this weekend
with us. So we're gonna hear it,

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right, Yeah, yeah, we're
going. We're gonna world premiere Danny's

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new song. Yes, a real
one, real song. Yeah, a

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real, actual song. That's how
it coming up at nine o'clock. So

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here's the story here. Over the
weekend, a man was killed. His

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name Alexi Navalny. I keep trying
to throw an ess into his last name

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or whatever. Alexei Navalni from Russia. And he started out like a activist

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blogger as where he really got a
huge following online, very savvy using the

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social media channels and very much using
the Internet. And his cause, for

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lack of a better term, was
against anything Putin and Putin's administration and what

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they're about. In fact, they
call it the opposition, and I I

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do kind of think I followed the
news pretty closely, but man, when

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this happened over the weekend, I
kept seeing his name and going okay,

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but I couldn't tell you that I
remembered anything about him. And then Danny

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texted us on Saturday night or Friday
night, I don't remember either, So

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whenever the wee can, Danny texted
us and said, I've got to watch

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this documentary, a documentary on HBO. I was halfway through it, a

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little over halfway, and after watching
this scene that took about I don't know,

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five to ten minutes with my blood
pressure just soaring, chills and my

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mouth just wide open, going you
can't be serious, I grabbed my phone

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and I texted you two guys,
and I was like, oh my god,

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the Navalny documentary on HBO. That
just dropped. I've never seen anything

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like this. There's a couple holy
asque moments, and there's one real big

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one. Yeah, I just think
this kind of thing. You hear it,

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you're like, all right, whatever
Russian political person, something happened.

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It just feels so far, so
distant and so confusing to all of us

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that it's easy to dismiss. But
his death a few days ago put it

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on the front page of everything,
and it makes you dig a little bit

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in the fact that this documentary exists. I mean, look, we're not

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the smartest people. We need something
in an hour and a half. That's

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a documentary that really kind of explains. It makes you care. But once

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you watch that or read about this
guy and get to know this guy,

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you care. And maybe if you
hear the segment, you'll care. And

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it's not just a weird Russian name. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And

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we've known and heard stories for years
about opposition figures in Russia being assassinated,

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people being poisoned. That seems to
be kind of their calling card when it

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comes to eliminating people that are generating
a following that can lead to an uprising

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and a threat in what is supposed
to be a fair election process over there.

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To Putin's power. His regime,
which you know, Navalny, you

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know, had this massive following like
Kevin and you. Mikey said, a

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lot of this was kind of garnered
via the Internet and via social media.

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He was a very ahead of the
game when it comes to using those platforms

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to get his message out. And
it was a real threat. And the

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administration was afraid of this because they
don't want to give up their power.

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I mean, that's just like any
political regimes, any political offices. They

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their sole purpose is not to do
good, to do good by their constituents.

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It's to maintain power. And they
will do whatever by any means necessary.

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And I think even ones that go
into it with more of a from

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an altruistic nature, they're flipped pretty
quickly and they realize that, look,

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this is hopeless. The best thing
I can do is just keep a job

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and be able to retire one day
and maybe write a book about this and

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go on speaking engagements. They're essentially
just its self preservation is about securing a

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secure financial security for the rest of
your life. Putin doesn't want to give

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this up, and he's got the
power. He as the means to be

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able to eliminate people that threaten his
occupancy there and navalney it was you know,

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Okay, so we'll get to the
poisoning and what kind of led to

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this documentary being made. And by
the way, this documentary won an Oscar

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I believe last year is the twenty
twenty three Oscar winner for documentary. Yeah,

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and it's just like now, it's
like one of the top ten trending

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most watched things on HBO. And
it's rainy. Even in the beginning of

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the documentary too, like he is
they've got him at a bar, and

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he kind of makes a joke of, well, I don't want to just

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answer your questions if you're only doing
this to make this for after I get

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killed. Yeah, Like he's like
he knows the risk of you know,

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what he's doing, and it's just
it's just weird to hear him say that.

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Like it's in the first five minutes
of the documentary, he's joking around

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about, well, don't just make
this for when I die. Yeah,

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he's very self aware that his life
is in balance. Yeah, pretty much

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at any given moment, considering his
geographical location in the reach of the people

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that want him silenced and just to
literally go away for good. So in

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August of twenty twenty, Navalni was
on a flight from Topsk Tomsk to Moscow.

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He became very very ill on the
flight and they inso much that he

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There is cell phone footage of people
that are on this flight. I believe

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it's a commercial flight. He gets
really, really sick. You have cell

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phoned footage of not actually seeing him, but you hear this man in peril.

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He is moaning. It is his
death rattle. And he admits that

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the moaning that was what he was
doing on that plane because he was in

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pain. It wasn't so much from
the pain. It was basically literally his

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death rattle. He felt like,
I'm about to die. This is my

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last The last verbal expression that I
can give was this moaning, knowing if

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that he was going to die.
The plane ends up executing an emergency landing,

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which in effects saved his life.
So he gets taken to a hospital.

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There is so much he ends up
surviving. He's on a ventilator.

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He's in a coma for a while. He ends up coming out of it,

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and they end up trying to get
his family wants him out of Russia,

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get him out of Russia get him
to a European hospital. They end

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up finally getting Putin to release him
for whatever reason. He gets on a

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plane, a private plane, and
has flown to Germany, I believe,

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where he recovers in hospital and they
figure out, yeah, that we have

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undisputable evidence that you were poisoned by
Putin's calling card of assassination, which is

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a poison called nova chok. And
I think we learned a little bit about

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what that does. But after a
certain amount of time, after the person

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is dead, it becomes untraceable,
which will lead us to his heart.

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That's why they're trying to keep him
in this rush in hospitals say no,

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we're giving him the best treat and
we can't release him. They want this

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stuff to leave his body. They
wanted to leave his body or finish the

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job in there. Yeah, but
apparently, you know, the German doctors

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had enough skill and technology to be
able to detect traces of this this novachok,

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and they found out that it was
you know, in his underwear,

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on a bottle of a cup of
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because he had nothing to eat that
day. He had ingested nothing other than

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one cup of tea, but apparently
there was enough of this novachok to get

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on his clothing that it poisoned him
to the point of taking him to near

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death. So we move on from
that, and at this point I think

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it's one of the documentaries kind of
being made, was when he was in

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Germany, Yeah, debating whether he
should go back to Russia. He wants

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to go back to Russia. He
wants to continue this fight of screaming Putin

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is corrupt. Yeah, Russia is
corrupt. We can fix this. And

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there's demonstrations, a ton of support. And also, just to illustrate,

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this dude's not some creepy Russia.
There's a good looking dude, beautiful wife,

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two gorgeous kids, the daughter of
which goes to Stanford and speaks speaks

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perfectly, with a great accents,
with a great American accent. You know

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that different than you or I or
whatever you know. And I think it's

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easy to just picture, oh,
some Russian dude, some Putin whatever.

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He looks like Alexander scars Guard a
little bit, a little bit little army

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hammer, you know. Okay,
yeah, but a good, cool looking

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dude, and he gets his health, he gets his his life back,

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and then he's like, I'm gonna
return to Russia to continue my work,

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and knowing that this is probably not
a great idea, but the before he

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goes to Russia, you want to
go to the investigation. Let's let's talk

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about the investigation and maybe you you. So he ends up teaming up with

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this kind of like this guy that's
really good at analyzing and collecting and kind

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of hacking into retrieve data. Right, So he finds this laboratory and these

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phone numbers that went to and from
this laboratory. This laboratory creates this poison

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nova check. So they find the
numbers, they attach names to that they

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essentially identify a Russian hit squad.
It gets poisoned from this facility, and

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the facility is, oh no,
we're trying. It's for uh energy drinks

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or something. Yeah, yeah,
exactly right, yeah, like drink.

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Find the names like these six possible
candidates, and then they track his his

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ni's flight records when he went on
this flight, and then they show like

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three of these guys who had the
poison on a flight right behind him,

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following him. And this happened not
once, but I think three times.

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So This is them proving yes they
were, because at this point they can't

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improve that he was poisoned by Russian
government. So then they find it.

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So they're like, all right,
they know they followed him, they know

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they poisoned it, but they still
can't prove it. So they try.

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They're like, screw it. The
story is about to go public. We

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have all the information. Let's the
day before it goes public, let's try

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calling these people, like calling the
people who likely poisoned him, not even

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really disguising your voice, but just
trying to get some information out of them.

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So they call like one of the
hit men. They're like, any

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good morning. This is I work
in Antonov's office, and we're following up

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on the the Texas. Why did
this go wrong? We need we need

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accountability on why this mission failed,
and we're kind of doing a inventory a

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follow up and this is very important
and boy Navalny is just so quick one

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and hey do it early in the
morning while these guys are just waking up.

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Hopefully they're like, uh, yeah, no, we tried, we

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did the poison thing. But these
hitman type guys, they're like, uh

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no, hang up, they don't
they don't do it. They don't fall

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for it, like screw, Let's
try this one other guy. So they

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call it scientists, not one of
like the hit men, who might be

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better schooled on this. So they
call this scientist and do the same bit,

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and the scientist is groggy and asleep, and he basically says, yeah,

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no, we did everything you said. We followed the plan. We

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can't believe it. I don't know
why it didn't want to work. And

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he's like, tell me again,
where you put the poison. He's like,

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well, he was in the hotel, he did his laundry, so

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we put the poison in his under
where Yeah, and then he put the

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under her on. The poison then
seeps into his body. And meanwhile,

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while this phone call is being made, it's all on video. They're filming

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this. I think it was a
joint effort with CNN to do this kind

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of mini documentary on this investigation,
which he teamed up. It was the

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guy French. I couldn't tell is
a Belgian French camera guy or well the

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guy that the data miner, the
one that put all of this evidence together.

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Oh oh that guy, yeah,
he was friend. Yeah, don't

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know anyway, So this guy is
just an independent data nerd self admitted.

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Now Putin says he's CIA, which
whatever, Okay, this guy's this hardcore

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data nerd that spent has spent in
his life in excess of one hundred and

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fifty thousand dollars for information, and
he's really good at what he does.

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I always got like two phones and
a laptop. So he's sitting there while

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Navalney Navalney is executing these I guess
you will call him prank phone calls,

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but it's he's mining as well.
He's trying to get information. He's trying

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to get these people that were that
were pinpointed and involved in the assassination to

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cop to it. And and the
French guy's assistant is there too, and

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I believe she's Russian, so they're
all working together. And when the dude

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is on the phone and admits to
this, he goes, yes, we

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tried what and it's I'm sorry,
it's not in English, it's in Russian

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and subtitles, so I can't pull
the audio for it. It'd be useless

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to us. They're like, oh
my god, like their minds are blowing.

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It's saying everything. He's saying everything
and how they try to poison me.

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They're like, why didn't it work? And this is Evona, the

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guy who was poisoned, Yeah,
playing someone else. Why didn't it work?

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He's like they turned the plane around, like if he's yeah, if

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the plane continued, he would have
died on the plane. But they turned

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the plane around fast enough. They
got him to the hospital and you know,

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gave him whatever he needed to live. And then they hang up the

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phone and they're just like, she
told us everything. Jay, I have

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the audio of that, if you
can pull me up here real quick.

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So this is the audio. They
actually kind of pivot between speaking Russi and

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English, and this was Navolney's and
his team's reaction the second they hung up

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the phone. No, we got
yes, yes, oh my, here's

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nothing muscle. He's a chemists.
Yes, I built the whole story story.

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This unbelievable. Poor guy, Poor
I think you will be president.

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Seriously after this, we will definitely
kill me. So they wanted to call

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the chemist back and let off him
asylum to defect because they're going to kill

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you the second this comes out,
because you blew it, because they're about

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to drop. Let's they assimilate all
of this information. They have this phone

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call, all of this stuff on
tape. Within days, their plan is

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to drop this to the world,
to drop this in information, all the

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results of their investigation, the tapes, the video, everything, so the

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world can see that this is a
direct tie and ordered to putin, ordered

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by Putin, putin poison my largest
most vocal opponent, poison him and kill

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him. Locked it, Yeah,
it's locked crazy And it was whild seeing

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them to talk about, well,
the humanitarian things to do is calling back.

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That was nuts because it's like people, you know, you know,

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it's clear, and it's like,
would that have happened if the cameras were

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not on? I don't know,
but you get the vibe that they're good

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people and you start like buying into
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the end, if you heard that
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because he's the guy that is helping
with the investigation. Sorry, he's like,

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oh, you're going to be president
after this, you will be president

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after all of this, And then
navalny at the very end, if you

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could hear that, maybe it wasn't
clear. He goes, they're going to

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kill me. They're going to kill
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all right, I'm gonna go home, I'm going to rush, I'm

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healthy again, I'm flying back from
Germany to Moscow. Because he's emboldened now

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he has this information. He feels
this is protection to him. They tried

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once. There's no way in hell
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or he knew. He knew in
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going to do. But they're on
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showing him and to humanize him even
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Rick and Morty on the flight from
Germany to Moscow, and there's press on

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the plane. They know it's gonna
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Moscow airport waiting to welcome him back. And they were about get to Moscow

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and they start diverting and doing a
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there, don't go there. And
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They went to a different airport because
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airport was overrun by supporters of Navalny
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ground right by for supporting him or
saying his name, and the second he

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lands, he gets to his passport
thing and the Russian police show up and

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say, come with us. And
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So what they did that he has
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You know, he's trying to destroy
Mother Russia. They're working with the

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CIA, because he's working with the
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who would never do anything except what's
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him in a prison in Moscow,
and then a few weeks later they transfer

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him twelve hundred miles north. He
disappeared into the Arctic Circle. How long

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did it take for him to travel
there by bus? It took him twenty

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days, over twenty days to drive
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me thinking this morning, how big
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is into Canada, it's into Hondura
south, it's to the Bahamas to the

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east. It's all the way to
San Diego that far on a bus and

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these ain't Highway South Florida. Yeah, yeah, past that, past that,

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all the way to the Bahamas.
Twenty days on a bus to the

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Arctic Circle to a prison called the
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prison in the worst country for prisons, the furthest you can get, they

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say, cell communication right when he
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one could even use cell phones there. Some high level Russian was at the

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prison like a week before, just
to make sure it was terrible enough for

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him, because he dared rally the
people against putin the polar Wolf colony.

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And I have a million stories we
don't have time for all of them about

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things that go on there. But
they essentially kill you slowly. They torture

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you. They put you in a
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give you a cell mate who's hacking, coughing, and has a respiratory infection.

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His job is to cough on you. That's your job for the day

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is to get this guy sick.
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that's not even helping you. It's
frankly hurting you more than it could possibly

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be helping. They put him in
solitary confinement for two hundred and eighty three

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days of his time there. Ten
foot by seven foot cell They actually forced

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to listen to a pro putin pop
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blast. They wouldn't let him sleep. They wake him up through the eight

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different times. Yeap, wake him
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prison they make you line up outside
with almost no clothes on at minus forty

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degrees, by the way, and
if you they make you stand there for

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half an hour, and if you
so much as ball your hands to warm

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your hands, they spray all of
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the Arctic circle in the spring,
by the way, they do it with

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it gets warmer, and they put
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They said that. They said they
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iron box where you can hardly breathe, and you urinate on yourself. They

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threaten to rape you while they're bullying
and beating you like every day. This

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is what happens at this prison.
And that's where this guy went who was

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watching Rick and Morty not too long
before and was a daughter at Stanford.

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And then just four days ago the
news came out that Navalney went on a

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walk at his prison. We don't
know what happened. He wasn't feeling well

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that morning, he got a walk, he got sick, it felt unwell,

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and he lost consciousness and he died
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death, real quick death syndrome.
Yeah, that's what they're claiming, real

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quick. Right. The documentary ends, he's in handcuffs waving goodbye to his

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family. January twenty twenty one.
Okay, so you're sitting there watching that,

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and if you watch the documentary before
this week happened and you saw it,

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you still don't know whatever happened to
that guy. We watched it after

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knowing what happened to him, and
I was just thinking about that moment of

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him waving goodbye, and then we
know what happens now his wife this week,

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if you'll see, his wife is
spoken out and no blaving it on

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Putin and she's probably going to get
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everyone knows it's Putin. I mean, President Biden came out and said,

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fine, more sanctions because of the
Navalny murder, were about out of sanctions,

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And that's a whole different conversation about
what the next couple of years might

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look like for Putin America and responses. But they're not really like you might.

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Like you said earlier, they're not
releasing the body for another two weeks

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to do chemical investigations on the body. In other words, they're waiting for

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this this drug, this Novachok to
disappear, to leave his body. This

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was the final thing that was said
on the documentary and he was asked this

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question, and this was his answer. I got this, JJ Alex say,

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if you are arrested and thrown in
prison or the unthinka, what happens

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when you're killed? What message do
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My message for the situation that I
am killed is very simple, not give

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up. And then he answers it
in Russian and gives a far more eloquent

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answer. Yeah yeah, but he
yeah. He wants people to fight,

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and the people want to fight,
but if they go out and fight,

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they get arrested. In Mike similar, damn, like four hundred people polar

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Fate this weekend. You know who
went out and protest or whatever. Four

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hundred people detained. Absolutely crazy.
It's a totalian, totalianarian, totalierian regime

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that exists in our very eyes,
in real time, and there's absolutely nothing

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that any country is willing to do
about it to a level of maybe what

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we did in World War Two because
they're afraid that they will wipe you off

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of the face of the planet and
destroy the Earth. And that's an incredible

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amount of power. That is an
incredible amount of fear in the hands of

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a bond villain. Yeah who Yeah, literally might have like my heart stops

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launch button, you know. Yeah, Like I wouldn't put that past him

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anyway. Navalni is the name of
the documentary. It's on HBO Max.

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Watch it. It makes you a
little bit smarter about something that I didn't

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know enough about and it's fascinating.
And then if you wonder why that name

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continues to pop up because incredible week
of his death and the reactions to it

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worldwide, Well Definite Zone. We'll
be following and tracking for you too over

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the next couple weeks. Well's on
the butt. Oh my god. The

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first death by this since nineteen thirty
happened to a thirty four year old man

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in Colorado and it involves an animal. Next to ninety seven won the freek