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Oh, find Billy Cunningham. The
Great American Reds Baseball kicks off about three

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ten this afternoon. We have Edny
Fingers and Jason Williams Life from the Holy

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Grail getting ready for Reds Baseball.
But perhaps one of the saddest stories this

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side of the triple homicide in Claremont
County was the murder of Demaya Barton Pickens

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on Monday night. And it's amazing
how quickly this case was resolved. Because

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when you have a drive by shooting
and they at eleven thirty pm and within

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seventy two hours the alleged perpetrators have
all been apprehended. Quissam Dickson twenty five

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years old, Ryan Brown twenty seven
years old, and Damario Williams twenty two

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years old. It shows a lot
of great police work. Joining you and

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I now as the Sheriff of Hamlety
County, Charmaine McGuffey and Sheriff McGuffey,

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welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Sheriff, I would note that

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our newsroom has received an update from
you on the condition of Damario Williams that

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rumors are indicating he may have may
have bonded out. Can you give us

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an update on that first? Absolutely, Bill and thanks for having me on.

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Yeah, Demarrio Williams. Earlier this
morning his family had posted a fifty

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thousand dollars bond for him for his
release and that was attached to electron monitoring

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with the release. And of course
we are through our investigation. We knew

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yesterday even that we had charges pending, and those charges are being placed on

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him right now. He is not
getting out of jail. It's going to

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go to a rainless tomorrow on these
additional charges. So let's go back to

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Monday nights. Eleven thirty at night, things are quiet. Many of us

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drive through Silverton. I do all
the time. Penny and I often take

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a ride down that way toward Madisonville. It's a nice community, good middle

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class community. Eleven thirty pm.
Kind of walk the American people through.

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What happened about eleven thirty pm on
Monday night. Sure, So on Monday

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night, eleven thirty pm, six
hundred block of Plainfield Road. Obviously it's

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quiet in the neighborhood. These two
men, these three men, actually,

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they drive up to this residence there
on that road and they fire into that

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house. Some thirty three rounds,
and many of those rounds we've determined have

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come from what's known as an assault
weapon and ak assault weapon. And the

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rounds were very targeted. I mean, very few of them actually missed the

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house. So what that tells us
is this was very purposeful and they were

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attempting to kill someone and they did. The motivation. Of course, motive

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is not necessarily an element of the
offense. The reason someone does something doesn't

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make you less are more culpable.
But nonetheless, what was the indication as

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to the reason they were doing this. The indication is there was some kind

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of theft that had occurred on you
know, regarding drugs. One person felt

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apparently that they had been robbed of
drugs from this other person, and you

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know, money did not change hands
when it should have, and you know,

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the way I understand it, it
was a very small amount of money.

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And as a matter of fact,
we're talking in the you know,

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fifty one hundred dollar rank, and
so this was revenge. This was somebody

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said hey, okay, and they
went to this gentleman's apartment, tried to

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find him, could not find him
there, and they knew somehow relatives and

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so they began to target, you
know, a relative's house, and that's

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how this came about. So at
least Quam Dixon and Ryan Brown, who

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have been charged with aggravated murder Ryan
Brown, according to media accounts, Ryan

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Brown felt as if he was owed
some money on some drug deal that didn't

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that went south, and so according
to media accounts, he recruited Quisam Dixon,

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the two of them with their semi
automatic rifles, and that Ryan Brown

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was owed the money. He got
Quisson Dixon to look for the a member

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of the Demaya Barton Pickens family that
might have owed them money. And those

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are the two main shooters. Is
that accurate or not? Yes, that's

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exactly accurate. Bill. Ryan Brown
was the instigator in this situation as we

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understand it, He was not in
the vehicle when the shooting actually occurred,

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but as we understand it, he
is certainly responsible for what happened. And

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Quisan Dixon then would have been the
character actually firing the shots. Is that

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correct into the home? Yep,
twenty five year old Kitson Dixon did fire

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into that home. And yes,
he is the person who who is you

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know, within the car and who
we arrested initially and for lack of a

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better term, as Damario Williams like
the getaway driver he is. He's the

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getaway driver. That's an exact,
great way to describe him. He's a

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getaway driver who up until now had
some fairly minor offenses that got him,

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you know, intersected with the law, but he escalated to dis level and

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he's not getting out of jail.
As kind of walk us through, it's

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Monday night at eleven thirty. Here
we are twelve fifteen on Friday afternoon,

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and it appears that you quickly identified
the perpetrators. What can you share with

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us on the investigation beginning at really
I guess around midnight on Monday night Tuesday

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morning. What brought you to the
point that you could identify with Sam Dixon

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and Ryan Brown within seventy two hours
as the perpetrators. Well, I will

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tell you this, the community cooperated. And when the community cooperates, we

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can move at such a speed that
people, you know, people will be

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surprised at how quickly we were able
to get intelligence on this and get these

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guys apprehended. When the community cooperates, Wow, it's a game changer and

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then the other thing we did is
we added technology, which is our drones.

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So you know we have drones now
and our deputies or licensed to fly

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those drones, and we were able
to put surveillance on these individuals the very

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next day, and you know,
really contain the situation with technology and all

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of the intel that we had.
So as far as the cooperation, I

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would think if Ryan Brown felt as
if he was owed money from elements of

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the Demia Barton Pickens family, that
the family of Demia wanted to actively cooperate

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and the identifyation of the responsible party. Even though Ryan Brown was not present,

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it was quickly through intelligence determined that
he was one of the organizing perpetrators.

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And then from that you put drone
technology and a wreck occurred. Can

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you tell us, Let's go to
Tuesday and Wednesday, the family cooperates,

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they say who they believe are the
perpetrators, and what did the Sheriff's office

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do from that point until Thursday when
the arrest took place. We located these

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two people, Cosim and de Mario, and when we located them, we

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put a drone up and we had
them under surveillance. They can't even see

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the drone. They can't even hear
the drone, and we were able to,

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with that groan watch them come out
that apartment. We were getting ready,

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in fact, we were trying to
get everybody there so we could do

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an entry. But before we could
do that, those two decided just on

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their own. The league. We
watched them put weapons into the back of

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the car and they took off.
Now as soon as they saw that there

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were deputies in pursuit trying to pull
them over, they just they took off

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at a high rate of speed,
and we did not chase because we did

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not want to injure anyone have other
tragedies out of this, so our drone

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was able to keep an eye on
them, and they crashed a short time

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later into a concrete bench, of
all things. After they clipped a woman

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who was of course innocent, simply
driving by, and they you know,

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she's pretty shaken up by it,
which we would be, anybody would.

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And then they crashed into this concrete
fence. One of them was injured,

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and the other one got out and
tried to run, but of course,

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you know, we were right there. We apprehended him within about you know,

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five minutes, and I would assume
by this point you're only apprehending at

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this point because I'm Dixon and Demario
Williams. But Ryan Brown was still out

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there, He wasn't arrested. How
did the arrest of Ryan Brown take place?

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And what information did you gather the
calls out to occur. Well,

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once a X started actually working the
case, once we had these two men

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in custody, we were able to, you know, through our questioning and

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investigation discover that oh yes, there's
a third man that's involved here, very

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involved, And that is when we
put out a warrant for Ryan Brown.

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And I'll tell you I like the
public to know, you know, our

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Criminal Investigation Section, our Regional and
Narcottage Unit, Intelligence unit, none of

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those men and women slept since that
crime cared until we had these men in

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custody. You know, we've brought
forwards every resource we had and will continue

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to do that. For anybody that
think that you can drive by a house

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and shoot bullets into it, did
you have any intelligence to indicate that Quasam

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Dixon actually knew that the person in
the Demaia Barton Pickens family that owed him

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money to Did Cassan Dixon know that
uh, that there there were children president

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in the house. You know,
I don't know what he knew, but

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I will tell you this, every
one of us knows that at that time

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night in anybody's home, there is
likely going to be children. They're likely

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going to be either up watching TV
or in bed, and there are likely

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going to be family members inside that
home. That's eleven thirty at night,

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you know, and um, there's
you know, in my mind, absolutely

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he knew people were in there,
and you know, this was purposeful in

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my mind, and that's what I
think about it now. I also want

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to know. I want to tell
you that you guys need to know that

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Cincinnati Police participated Springfield Township a whole
bunch of agencies, and so this was

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an effort. Of course, you
were a headquarter quarterback on the thing,

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but you reached out to other police
agencies because this was a ALTI jurisdictional effort.

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It wasn't just in Silverton, which
is a municipality that they have a

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deal and understanding with the Sheriff's Department
of Hamleton County to provide police services.

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Silverton got rid of their police department
years ago. But nonetheless, this was

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something everyone in law enforcement had to
cooperate with right and you know, that's

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all about those lines of communication,
and that's what collaboration is about. And

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that's what we've built with this Sheriff's
Department under my leadership, is we collaborate,

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We talk to people, we get
along with people, We want to

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talk to other agencies, and we
want them to feel really great about talking

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to us. You know, they
get a lot of credit to the FBI,

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included as far as Dixon, Brown
and Williams. To your knowledge,

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at this point, it's only been
about seventy two hours. But at this

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point, are any other individuals involved
in the murder of Demaia Barton Pickens.

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Our investigation has not discovered any other
people that would be involved in this.

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We believe that we have the three
perpetrators of this crime and that they are

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the only three who are involved in
this crime. Seemingly, there are some

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adult in the Demaya family involved in
some sort of nefarious activity. Is that

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a secondary matter to be determined.
It appeared as if somebody in that family

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was involved in buying or selling drugs, partially to Ryan Brown. Is there

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any thought about pursuing charges against someone
in that family. Well, the first

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thing I'm going to say is our
condolences, our prayers or thoughts go out

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to the family for this young girl
nine years old, Demaya. I mean,

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come on, you know, it's
a tragedy all the way around.

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I don't care what started it.
You don't kill a child. You don't

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you don't shoot up a house.
You don't act like these cowards did.

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You don't do that. And I
don't know the specifics of what the argument

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was about, but listen, these
young men are going to have to learn

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how to settle their differences without these
weapons and without all of this killing innocent

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people, children, no less or
they're going to spend a heck of a

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lot of their lives in prison,
in jail, and I tell you what,

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that's no way to spend your life. Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey, you've been

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in law enforcement a long time.
You work for Simon Lease with Sean Donamos,

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the chief deputy for twenty five or
thirty years. Now you're the sheriff.

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Have you identified as to why these
incidents are occurring in a more frequent

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basis than happened thirty years ago.
Your first day in the Sheriff's Department.

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And now we cover these events here
a lot, it seems like they're accelerating.

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Is there a reason for that?
My opinion, yes, the availability

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of weapons. When needs men who
can't control themselves, who have the mentality

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of sixteen year old get weapons in
their hands, there's no telling what they'll

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do. And these are weapons that
they got illegally. We have to strengthen

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those laws. We have to strengthen
background checks, We have to strengthen the

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prevention of weapons. Weapons like an
ak you know, that's a that's a

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weapon of war. Falling into the
hands of any one of these men has

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resulted in this tragedy. So I
do believe that, and I think that,

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uh, you know, we are
working to try and reach young people

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today. We're doing everything we can. We need the community, We need

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parents. Listen, if your child's
going down this road, don't let them

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get their hands on a weapon.
And if they do, call the Sheriff's

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department and we'll come get it.
Lastly, Charmaine McGuffey, Sheriff, are

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these are these criminals likely to face
the death penalty for the murder of a

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child? Or is out up to
Melissa powers that is certainly a some Melissa

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powers and I'm certain she'll do exactly
the right thing. And you know again,

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I just my condolences even go out
to the community. This has been

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a tragedy. We all feel it, every one of us, that poor

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little girl. You know what I
want is I want people to realize you

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need the police. Okay, you
need them, you need us, We

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need all these other agencies that all
cooperated here to bring these men to justice.

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And that's exactly what we're going to
do. And my message to the

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other men out there who might be
thinking of crimes like this, we are

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not going to stand down as law
enforcement. You will be held accountable and

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we will find you. Sheriff Charmaine
McGuffey, once again, thank you for

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coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
This was a great result on a tragedy

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and it reminded me almost of what
happened in Claremont County, which she had

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Dorman who lined up his three little
boys and just executed him and killed them.

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The death of old and our community
has caused an outrage and an outpouring

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of support that maybe we need on
so many other levels. But as you

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said to begin this interview. Basically, the family itself and those in the

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community step up and quickly said,
we believe it's probably those guys right there.

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Then the drone technology is really unbelievable
how that stuff works in a sense.

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I'm glad they were apprehended, but
there was a fear that Tamario Williams

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would get out and your text that
you sent out and in the case that

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will not occur. These gentlemen will
be on our high bonds and Charmaine McGuffey,

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Sheriff and hamlet A County, thank
you again for coming on the Bill

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Cunningham Show, and with your permission, we'll do it again. Thank you,

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Sheriff, thank you, Thank you
Bill, Thanks so much. God

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bless you. Let's continue with more
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seven, four, nine, seven
thousand or pounds seven hundred new at

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and T. By the way,
there is a go fund me page and

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donations have gotten to about fifteen thousand
dollars. You can google Demaya family gofund

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me page spelled d a capital my
i ah to my family. Go fund

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me page has raised about fifteen thousand
dollars for her burial. Let's continue with

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more twelve to twenty seven. Home
of Your Red's News Radio seven hundred WLW,

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Bill Sake, Dennis A. Here
for Paul Young funeral Home. They're

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a family owned funeral home with a
different philosophy than the corporate firms. The

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big corporate firms actually have less selection
and higher p