Oh, find Billy Cunningham. The Great American Reds Baseball kicks off about three
ten this afternoon. We have Edny Fingers and Jason Williams Life from the Holy
Grail getting ready for Reds Baseball. But perhaps one of the saddest stories this
side of the triple homicide in Claremont County was the murder of Demaya Barton Pickens
on Monday night. And it's amazing how quickly this case was resolved. Because
when you have a drive by shooting and they at eleven thirty pm and within
seventy two hours the alleged perpetrators have all been apprehended. Quissam Dickson twenty five
years old, Ryan Brown twenty seven years old, and Damario Williams twenty two
years old. It shows a lot of great police work. Joining you and
I now as the Sheriff of Hamlety County, Charmaine McGuffey and Sheriff McGuffey,
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Sheriff, I would note that
our newsroom has received an update from you on the condition of Damario Williams that
rumors are indicating he may have may have bonded out. Can you give us
an update on that first? Absolutely, Bill and thanks for having me on.
Yeah, Demarrio Williams. Earlier this morning his family had posted a fifty
thousand dollars bond for him for his release and that was attached to electron monitoring
with the release. And of course we are through our investigation. We knew
yesterday even that we had charges pending, and those charges are being placed on
him right now. He is not getting out of jail. It's going to
go to a rainless tomorrow on these additional charges. So let's go back to
Monday nights. Eleven thirty at night, things are quiet. Many of us
drive through Silverton. I do all the time. Penny and I often take
a ride down that way toward Madisonville. It's a nice community, good middle
class community. Eleven thirty pm. Kind of walk the American people through.
What happened about eleven thirty pm on Monday night. Sure, So on Monday
night, eleven thirty pm, six hundred block of Plainfield Road. Obviously it's
quiet in the neighborhood. These two men, these three men, actually,
they drive up to this residence there on that road and they fire into that
house. Some thirty three rounds, and many of those rounds we've determined have
come from what's known as an assault weapon and ak assault weapon. And the
rounds were very targeted. I mean, very few of them actually missed the
house. So what that tells us is this was very purposeful and they were
attempting to kill someone and they did. The motivation. Of course, motive
is not necessarily an element of the offense. The reason someone does something doesn't
make you less are more culpable. But nonetheless, what was the indication as
to the reason they were doing this. The indication is there was some kind
of theft that had occurred on you know, regarding drugs. One person felt
apparently that they had been robbed of drugs from this other person, and you
know, money did not change hands when it should have, and you know,
the way I understand it, it was a very small amount of money.
And as a matter of fact, we're talking in the you know,
fifty one hundred dollar rank, and so this was revenge. This was somebody
said hey, okay, and they went to this gentleman's apartment, tried to
find him, could not find him there, and they knew somehow relatives and
so they began to target, you know, a relative's house, and that's
how this came about. So at least Quam Dixon and Ryan Brown, who
have been charged with aggravated murder Ryan Brown, according to media accounts, Ryan
Brown felt as if he was owed some money on some drug deal that didn't
that went south, and so according to media accounts, he recruited Quisam Dixon,
the two of them with their semi automatic rifles, and that Ryan Brown
was owed the money. He got Quisson Dixon to look for the a member
of the Demaya Barton Pickens family that might have owed them money. And those
are the two main shooters. Is that accurate or not? Yes, that's
exactly accurate. Bill. Ryan Brown was the instigator in this situation as we
understand it, He was not in the vehicle when the shooting actually occurred,
but as we understand it, he is certainly responsible for what happened. And
Quisan Dixon then would have been the character actually firing the shots. Is that
correct into the home? Yep, twenty five year old Kitson Dixon did fire
into that home. And yes, he is the person who who is you
know, within the car and who we arrested initially and for lack of a
better term, as Damario Williams like the getaway driver he is. He's the
getaway driver. That's an exact, great way to describe him. He's a
getaway driver who up until now had some fairly minor offenses that got him,
you know, intersected with the law, but he escalated to dis level and
he's not getting out of jail. As kind of walk us through, it's
Monday night at eleven thirty. Here we are twelve fifteen on Friday afternoon,
and it appears that you quickly identified the perpetrators. What can you share with
us on the investigation beginning at really I guess around midnight on Monday night Tuesday
morning. What brought you to the point that you could identify with Sam Dixon
and Ryan Brown within seventy two hours as the perpetrators. Well, I will
tell you this, the community cooperated. And when the community cooperates, we
can move at such a speed that people, you know, people will be
surprised at how quickly we were able to get intelligence on this and get these
guys apprehended. When the community cooperates, Wow, it's a game changer and
then the other thing we did is we added technology, which is our drones.
So you know we have drones now and our deputies or licensed to fly
those drones, and we were able to put surveillance on these individuals the very
next day, and you know, really contain the situation with technology and all
of the intel that we had. So as far as the cooperation, I
would think if Ryan Brown felt as if he was owed money from elements of
the Demia Barton Pickens family, that the family of Demia wanted to actively cooperate
and the identifyation of the responsible party. Even though Ryan Brown was not present,
it was quickly through intelligence determined that he was one of the organizing perpetrators.
And then from that you put drone technology and a wreck occurred. Can
you tell us, Let's go to Tuesday and Wednesday, the family cooperates,
they say who they believe are the perpetrators, and what did the Sheriff's office
do from that point until Thursday when the arrest took place. We located these
two people, Cosim and de Mario, and when we located them, we
put a drone up and we had them under surveillance. They can't even see
the drone. They can't even hear the drone, and we were able to,
with that groan watch them come out that apartment. We were getting ready,
in fact, we were trying to get everybody there so we could do
an entry. But before we could do that, those two decided just on
their own. The league. We watched them put weapons into the back of
the car and they took off. Now as soon as they saw that there
were deputies in pursuit trying to pull them over, they just they took off
at a high rate of speed, and we did not chase because we did
not want to injure anyone have other tragedies out of this, so our drone
was able to keep an eye on them, and they crashed a short time
later into a concrete bench, of all things. After they clipped a woman
who was of course innocent, simply driving by, and they you know,
she's pretty shaken up by it, which we would be, anybody would.
And then they crashed into this concrete fence. One of them was injured,
and the other one got out and tried to run, but of course,
you know, we were right there. We apprehended him within about you know,
five minutes, and I would assume by this point you're only apprehending at
this point because I'm Dixon and Demario Williams. But Ryan Brown was still out
there, He wasn't arrested. How did the arrest of Ryan Brown take place?
And what information did you gather the calls out to occur. Well,
once a X started actually working the case, once we had these two men
in custody, we were able to, you know, through our questioning and
investigation discover that oh yes, there's a third man that's involved here, very
involved, And that is when we put out a warrant for Ryan Brown.
And I'll tell you I like the public to know, you know, our
Criminal Investigation Section, our Regional and Narcottage Unit, Intelligence unit, none of
those men and women slept since that crime cared until we had these men in
custody. You know, we've brought forwards every resource we had and will continue
to do that. For anybody that think that you can drive by a house
and shoot bullets into it, did you have any intelligence to indicate that Quasam
Dixon actually knew that the person in the Demaia Barton Pickens family that owed him
money to Did Cassan Dixon know that uh, that there there were children president
in the house. You know, I don't know what he knew, but
I will tell you this, every one of us knows that at that time
night in anybody's home, there is likely going to be children. They're likely
going to be either up watching TV or in bed, and there are likely
going to be family members inside that home. That's eleven thirty at night,
you know, and um, there's you know, in my mind, absolutely
he knew people were in there, and you know, this was purposeful in
my mind, and that's what I think about it now. I also want
to know. I want to tell you that you guys need to know that
Cincinnati Police participated Springfield Township a whole bunch of agencies, and so this was
an effort. Of course, you were a headquarter quarterback on the thing,
but you reached out to other police agencies because this was a ALTI jurisdictional effort.
It wasn't just in Silverton, which is a municipality that they have a
deal and understanding with the Sheriff's Department of Hamleton County to provide police services.
Silverton got rid of their police department years ago. But nonetheless, this was
something everyone in law enforcement had to cooperate with right and you know, that's
all about those lines of communication, and that's what collaboration is about. And
that's what we've built with this Sheriff's Department under my leadership, is we collaborate,
We talk to people, we get along with people, We want to
talk to other agencies, and we want them to feel really great about talking
to us. You know, they get a lot of credit to the FBI,
included as far as Dixon, Brown and Williams. To your knowledge,
at this point, it's only been about seventy two hours. But at this
point, are any other individuals involved in the murder of Demaia Barton Pickens.
Our investigation has not discovered any other people that would be involved in this.
We believe that we have the three perpetrators of this crime and that they are
the only three who are involved in this crime. Seemingly, there are some
adult in the Demaya family involved in some sort of nefarious activity. Is that
a secondary matter to be determined. It appeared as if somebody in that family
was involved in buying or selling drugs, partially to Ryan Brown. Is there
any thought about pursuing charges against someone in that family. Well, the first
thing I'm going to say is our condolences, our prayers or thoughts go out
to the family for this young girl nine years old, Demaya. I mean,
come on, you know, it's a tragedy all the way around.
I don't care what started it. You don't kill a child. You don't
you don't shoot up a house. You don't act like these cowards did.
You don't do that. And I don't know the specifics of what the argument
was about, but listen, these young men are going to have to learn
how to settle their differences without these weapons and without all of this killing innocent
people, children, no less or they're going to spend a heck of a
lot of their lives in prison, in jail, and I tell you what,
that's no way to spend your life. Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey, you've been
in law enforcement a long time. You work for Simon Lease with Sean Donamos,
the chief deputy for twenty five or thirty years. Now you're the sheriff.
Have you identified as to why these incidents are occurring in a more frequent
basis than happened thirty years ago. Your first day in the Sheriff's Department.
And now we cover these events here a lot, it seems like they're accelerating.
Is there a reason for that? My opinion, yes, the availability
of weapons. When needs men who can't control themselves, who have the mentality
of sixteen year old get weapons in their hands, there's no telling what they'll
do. And these are weapons that they got illegally. We have to strengthen
those laws. We have to strengthen background checks, We have to strengthen the
prevention of weapons. Weapons like an ak you know, that's a that's a
weapon of war. Falling into the hands of any one of these men has
resulted in this tragedy. So I do believe that, and I think that,
uh, you know, we are working to try and reach young people
today. We're doing everything we can. We need the community, We need
parents. Listen, if your child's going down this road, don't let them
get their hands on a weapon. And if they do, call the Sheriff's
department and we'll come get it. Lastly, Charmaine McGuffey, Sheriff, are
these are these criminals likely to face the death penalty for the murder of a
child? Or is out up to Melissa powers that is certainly a some Melissa
powers and I'm certain she'll do exactly the right thing. And you know again,
I just my condolences even go out to the community. This has been
a tragedy. We all feel it, every one of us, that poor
little girl. You know what I want is I want people to realize you
need the police. Okay, you need them, you need us, We
need all these other agencies that all cooperated here to bring these men to justice.
And that's exactly what we're going to do. And my message to the
other men out there who might be thinking of crimes like this, we are
not going to stand down as law enforcement. You will be held accountable and
we will find you. Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey, once again, thank you for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. This was a great result on a tragedy
and it reminded me almost of what happened in Claremont County, which she had
Dorman who lined up his three little boys and just executed him and killed them.
The death of old and our community has caused an outrage and an outpouring
of support that maybe we need on so many other levels. But as you
said to begin this interview. Basically, the family itself and those in the
community step up and quickly said, we believe it's probably those guys right there.
Then the drone technology is really unbelievable how that stuff works in a sense.
I'm glad they were apprehended, but there was a fear that Tamario Williams
would get out and your text that you sent out and in the case that
will not occur. These gentlemen will be on our high bonds and Charmaine McGuffey,
Sheriff and hamlet A County, thank you again for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show, and with your permission, we'll do it again. Thank you,
Sheriff, thank you, Thank you Bill, Thanks so much. God
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