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With the Pretty Boy today. Yeah. Hey, hey, yeah, hey,

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it's twenty four to one six.
Hi everyone, Tony from ACTA Movies

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here with my co host from Casilla
Versus the Pod Monster, you know those

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videos that come out on Fridays that
most of you don't watch. It's also

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a podcast you could download. Please
download that podcast. Can I now say

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that I'm on talking about tapes when
you introduced me on Casilla? No?

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Yeah. So so we have a
Godzilla podcast and we talk about giant monsters

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a lot. We tend to steer
clear of King Kongo except for the Toho

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version, Yeah, because he's kind
before the Choho monsters. So I thought

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this would be a good opportunity for
us to talk about some King Kong stuff.

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And what do you know it?
When I looked up the poster for

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King Kong seventy six, since the
movie came out in December, the poster

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said King Kong for Christmas? Why
is there always a bug in here when

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I'm recording the last time you were
here, Nat, and Nat was here,

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and now it's grown up into a
fly. I guess it's huge.

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I know, I know all day
long we've had flies here. I think

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it's getting fumigated over the weekend.
Maybe I had to buy the little the

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bands, the raid strips. Yes, yes, anyway, let's talk about

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King Kong. This is the nineteen
seventy six remake. Yay, hey,

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I kind of love this movie produced
by Dino di Laurentis, who's the rare

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Italian producer who actually produced some decent
movies, like God, the Hanniballector movie.

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He produced a lot of I also
saw was that Michael Eisner apparently was

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part of this, like it was
his idea of that oh a reboot,

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which I like Michael Eisner to a
point, but then he ruined the people

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mover in Disneyland and like no one's
ever gonna forget Okay, well this was

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nineteen seventy sixties, I don't care. It was directed by John Gillerman and

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written by Lorenzo Simple Junior. We'll
get to him in a second. And

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the effects were a collaborative effort between
Rick Baker and Carlo Rambaldi. Now Rick

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Baker, he helped make the suit
with the face. The Kong is a

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suit in this movie. They wanted
Kong to be a full size, practical

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effect, and I think Newt was
telling us. They told investors that it

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was going to be this big thing, and they got a lot of money

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for it. They built the full
size practical effect, and well, it

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didn't work out the way they want
it. We'll get to that as we

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go throughout the movie. But Lorenzo's
simple. He has a thing here.

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I have a quote from him.
We made a very deliberate attempt not to

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be anything like the original movie in
tone or mood. Yeah, Dino wanted

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it to be light and amusing rather
than portentious portentious. I don't think the

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original was meant to be mythic.
The original King Kong is extremely crude.

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I don't mean it's not wonderful.
It was remarkable for its time, but

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it was a very small backlot picture. We thought times had changed so much

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that audiences were more sophisticated. Dino
felt we could have more fun with it.

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We hoped to do sensational things with
advanced special effects on a big screen.

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When I think of sophisticated, I
think of King Kong originals, I

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think of this one. Why,
I guess we should point out I love

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the original King Kong, really liked
the Peter Jackson one, I really did

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like the Peter jacksone. You were
obsessed because it was big at the time.

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I mean it's still god. Yeah, you think I'm back with a

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problem. The original King Kong is
great, and since this was a movie

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made before twenty sixteen, we're sorry. I'm sure it was problematic. We

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apologize that something about the natives is
offensive, and I have something to point

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out that's pretty offensive when we get
to the point. Okay, yes,

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the Asian character in the original is
problematic. Cancel. Cancel Marion C.

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Cooper, cancel Rcho Pictures. They're
all dead, we cancel them. Anyway,

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great movie. Anyway, let's talk
about this King Kong seventy six.

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I grew up watching this movie because
I saw the Really yeah, I saw

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the original black and white one.
I loved King Kong, and I'm like,

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oh, there's a remake in color. I not make you feel watching

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that as a kid. Oh,
I was a kid. I loved it.

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I loved it. There was one
aspect that let me down, which

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we'll get to. But uh,
instead of a boat full of a crew

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that's going to shoot a movie,
it is a boat looking for oil instead

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of a director. The dad from
that's what he was. By the way

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I realized, I was like,
wait, who is that? And the

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IMDb it's like, oh, the
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the whatever that character is in the
Zack Black character the director character is now

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an oil guy and all the oil
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there was the energy crisis. There
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yeah, so he's like the head
of it. He knows about this island

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and there's something weird here. I
always think Richard Keel from Egas in this.

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He guy's good. Also note I'm
sorry, Jaws from James Bond.

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That's probably the more memorable character,
but I always think he's in this.

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But it's actually, uh Jack o'holleran
who was none in Superman to the mute

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Kryptonian. Do you know a lot
about that guy? Not really? Black

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guy is a fascinating bert. His
family was like heavily in the Mob,

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and I think I think characters in
The Godfather are based off his dad.

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So he was like involved in the
mob. But then this was like gonna

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be an actor. Now. Char
was also a boxer. He used like

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a real Yeah, so the oh, the company is called pet trucks,

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and apparently that was a reference to
pet rocks, because that was like the

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fad that was going around at that
time. So people used to paint rocks

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and they were pet rocks, and
people in the seventies were stupid. That'd

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be like, that'd be like obsessing
over like a stupid penguin thing from a

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Star Wars movie. It's really dumb. What do you got on your shirt

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there? Porn? Oh my god, it's all sequel trilogy stuff. BB

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eight, Admiral akbar Oka, Chewbacca, pork Stormtrooper. Oh my god,

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po loft cat a great shirt.
Ah, okay, it's a dinosaur.

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Yeah. So this oil companies get
ready to go somewhere and Chef Bridges sneaks

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in, and my girlfriend means higher
movie just couldn't stop talking about how dreamy

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Jeff Bridges was. He's so Hotessica. Yeah, and Tony took his shirt

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off and then she's like he's too
thin, and I'm like, yeah,

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I'm sure that's exactly what she said. Yeah. Yeah. So we find

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out that the oil guy, now
this was like a thing in the original

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script, the oil dude, I
can't remember his name. Oil guy Beethoven

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Dad. In the original script,
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like the Vatican, like the Vatican
had secret files and somewhere. Someone involved

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in the movie was very offended by
that, so they changed it to the

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US government. The oil guy paid
off the US government to look the other

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way and so he could like find
this island. So they're talking about an

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island that's constantly covered in fog,
and they're taking like radar stuff and they're

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like, there's so much heat from
this. It's gotta be it's gotta be

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from oil. And then Jeff Bridges
is like, no, you're wrong.

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I'm Jeff Bridges and they're like who
are you And he's like, I'm Jeff

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Bridges And they're like, oh,
who are you in this movie? And

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they're like, oh, I'm a
primatologist. Jack was the name. Yeah,

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he was like Jack primatologist who is
also a palaeontologist and he's heard stories

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of this. Yeah, he wants
to school for like something else or we're

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studying something else, but he like
switched over my favorites one. They're like

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checking his like IDs and stuff.
They're like, we don't believe this is

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a real guy. But it's literally
who he is. Yeah, They're like,

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you're from Exan, you're from this, you're from Shell. I know,

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we're naming all the real oil companies. Oh, you're actually the dude

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all right. Anyway, yeah,
let's they figure out who he is.

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They're like, oh, cool,
you want to come to us. He's

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like, yeah, I'll go check
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kind of an environmentalist sort of.
If this was in the nineties, it

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would have been way workers. So
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the Island of the Skull. They
never call it skull Island, which I

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thought was interesting. So this movie
goes on for fifteen minutes and then suddenly

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remembers that women should probably be in
it. Just one, just one.

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They show other women, but like, wow, did you not think they

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were valid? So Jessica Lang shows
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in this movie is she as hot
as fuck. She's still a babe.

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I guess if she asked me,
I'd be like please. This is her

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breakout role. This is like the
first Yeah, and this blew her career

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up, which led to another young
girl ten years later picking to be in

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the sequel, and it didn't her
career was still fine, but the movie

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did not help picture unrelated picture of
Linda Hamilton anyway. So they find her

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in a raft. And one interesting
thing about Jessica Lang. This this story

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broke in two thousand and eight,
and it comes up all the time.

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A lot of people auditioned for this, Kim Basinger, I forget who else,

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but Meryl Streep has the story.
Did you see that story? Meryl?

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Now keep in mind there's no way
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women sometimes do this thing called lying. So Meryl Streep, who I think

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is a phony Bologne, might be
lying you're a phony Bologni. So Meryl

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Streep apparently went to audition and she's
there with Dino di Laurentis and his son,

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and apparently the son in Italian was
like, she's too ugly for King

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Kong or something, and she didn't
they didn't know that she can understand Italian,

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so she like fired back at them
or something, and then she cried

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about it. Clearly she got over
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she was still bringing it up,
because women never forget anyway, Meryl Streep

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probably would have been fine in this
movie. But you want Jessica Lang.

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Yeah, it's kind of like you're
fine in this review, but the fans

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want Trisha or Crystal. But you
know, turns out Jessica Lang is the

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only survivor from a sunken vessel a
yacht, yes, and like exploded or

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something. Yeah, she said she
was discovered by some filmmaker, which I

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think is a reference to the original. Yeah, but then it gets a

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little dark. Uh Yeah, and
she says her name is Dwan. She

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changed the A and W to be
more interesting. So we're gonna call her

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Jessica Lang for the rest of the
movie because I'm not gonna say Dwan every

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five minutes. Uh So. The
funny thing about the filmmaker who discovered her

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apparently him and his friends were in
the bottom of the ship watching Deep Throat

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and she calls him Harry or something, and apparently it's like this deep inside

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joke where maybe the director who discovered
her was trying to get her into porn.

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It was taking her to Singapore to
be and all these born movies,

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but then they all blew up except
for her, So I thought that was

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interesting. And then the crew is
super horny for her, and I understand

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everyone is and they give her a
bunch of clothes which are all men's clothes,

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but she magically turns them into women's
form fitting clothes boot top. Yeah,

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she's like, oh, I cut
this man's jeans and now they're perfectly

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flirting hardcore everybody too, and everybody's
just kind of like, oh, Jessica,

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h look look to be honest,
I would be the same way again,

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Jessica, like again today like Jessica. So yeah, they finally get

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to the island and the mat shot
of the wall looks great. What do

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you think? Does the wall look
great? Yeah? Amazing? You read

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the wall looks good. Yeah,
you're a fan of the wall, you

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know what? Stop it anyway,
anyway, this is why people you So

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then it gets to the part in
the classic King Kong story where they meet

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the natives and they don't meet them
yet. They sneak in and then they're

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just watching them and taking pictures.
Yeah yeah, that's what I mean,

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Like they're they're sneaking, they're observing
and uh the natives actually they look more

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realistic than these movies tend to portray
natives. Uh not the ones that are

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dressed up. I can't speak for
those, but just the natives that are

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hanging around. I'm like, oh, I've seen documentaries where people look like

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that. Uh. And then the
head priest shows up and he's a guy

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in a ballfit and he's got like
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sexy dancer. He is built the
giant patch of like a straw hair just

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on his crotch. By the way, this is what I wanted to bring

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up. So I noticed with the
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wig. I didn't pick up on
that. That's funny. Yeah, so

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is hung racist because he yeah,
at that rate, maybe he just likes

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that color hair. I don't know. No, no, no, no,

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no, no, no no.
So it's a person of color who

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is a woman with a blonde wig. Clearly, like these women that are

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being sacrificed are dead. Yeah,
yeah, a white blonde woman comes along.

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That's in every version of the story. I do. Like every version

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of the story. The natives are
like, we don't want to kill our

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own women. Let's scrap this brun
somehow. Now Kong's okay with this one.

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He's like oh, I like this
woman and then he does the thing,

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so no, is he a racist? Maybe? Maybe? So they

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spot the Americans watching them, yep, and I like that. The priest

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realizes they have like a white chick
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gets like six of the native girls
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like, na, I'm okay.
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shoot and they run away. So
they saw that there was oil at the

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place, and yeah, so basically
jet bridges. So before they fired their

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guns and ran away, they noticed
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and jet bridges. He wants to
study the ape, but they won't help

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him, so he's about to go
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Jessica Lang for a little bit,
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well, before I leave, let's
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uh, you'll disappoint me if you're
here when I get back. What

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do you mean you'll be disappointed?
Oh, I was hoping you'd be winning

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for me in your cabin. Yeah. The natives are coming in, by

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the way. It's so funny.
So like I think every other version like

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the Natives like steak on board or
something. So Jeff Bridges, Leaves and

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Jesse he literally just like they just
roll up and grab her, and like

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I'm like, wow, how can
they must have been like, holy shit,

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she's right there, get her head, let's go. Jeff Bridges realizes

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she's taken, so they go to
find her and uh, she is now

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in the ceremony and she's being no
blond wig. She don't need it.

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She is being hypnotized by the erotic
dancing. Yeah, the gyrating gibs,

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which, by the way, this
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This entire movie. I feel like, oh my, this movie has a

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fucking boner. This movie has a
boner. So being a kid, you

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know, you watch the original,
there's like that implied romance that's what Kanng

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and the girl and whatnot. This
one, they're just hitting you over the

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head with like sexual stuff, non
stuff you over the head. They were

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dropping boulders on you. Yeah.
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they never showed them drugging her or
anything. So I really think his

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sexy dancing is what's hypnotized and that
you want to call it. I was

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just kind of like, so they
you know if they tire her up to

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the post, and then Kong shows
up and he looks pretty good. Uh

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it's a uh like the eyes were
like yeah, I think they were okay,

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like really like the actual like iris. Yeah, it was really big.

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They might have been fake. I
don't know. I have to look

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it up. Whatever, they look
great. Rick Faker did a ton of

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like make up and practical effects,
and this was like his first big one,

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although he says that like his cong
isn't great in this, it's just

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like it was very well. But
I think it works really well at night,

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like it blends together. It blends
with the big hand that grabs her.

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The blue screen is not that terrible. There's one scene where I was

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like, overall, but it's a
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movie from like the sixties or fifties, I think, But that roar has

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been used in so many monster movies, and I used it in the tomb

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Raider AVGN episode Oh Shite. So
he grabs Jessica Lang goes into the woods

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and then the crew shows up to
try to rescue her. And there's a

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really great line of dialogue. He's
taking her, I'm one's taking her.

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Who the hell do you think went
through? There? Some guy in in

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ape suit? Because when they shot
this, they thought there were gonna be

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a lot more shots with the practice
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and that did not happen. So
I think that's supposed to be like

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shitting on Godzilla movies and stuff.
But then the irony is they ended up

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mostly doing a man in the suit. Then we see Kong during the day

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and the caposite shots don't look as
well during the day, but they still

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look pretty fine. Trust me,
we did on our podcast. We did

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King Kong versus Godzilla and King Kong
Escapes. And if this movie looks fine

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when you're comparing its to the Toho
Kong just looks great. Even at its

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work, it looks creaky. Kanng
is ready to eat Jessica Lang, and

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she wins him over by slapping him
around, and she's like yelling and beating

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him up, well, beating his
hand up. Turns out that's his kink.

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How fucking lucky do you have to
be? I love being beat up

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by tiny white women. Yeah,
I love being yelled at and belittled and

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she calls him like a chauviness.
I was also dying that she keeps bringing

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up astrology stuff. Yea, even
up a point she's like are you an

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aries? And I'm like, what
are you doing? I will say so

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KNG is kind of like into it
and whatnot, and then she starts mentioned

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in astrology and puts her down.
He looks disappointed, much like I am

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when chicks bring up astrology. Did
I ever tell you about that one chick?

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People have fun? Okay, no, no, but here's the thing.

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So I was on dating sites for
a while. Big mistake, don't

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do it. I know I met
my current girlfriend from one, but that

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was like that was an exception.
Yeah. So when you're you have to

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pretend to like stuff that chicks like, and one of them is astrology.

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Oh you don't, Yeah you do, Yeah you do. So I pretended

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to be interested in astrology with this
chick who was too into astrology. I

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thought she was gonna be like,
what are you a Virgo? And I'd

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be like, oh, yeah,
I'm a virgo. Instead for an hour

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just texting back and forth, what
house is your sign? In give me

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this, I need to look at
the chart, and I'm like, oh

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my god, this is the worst
conversation I've ever had. So astrology sucks

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and I'm glad Me and King Kong
agree on that. The oil guy apparently

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called in ahead of time, being
like, we found the big ones,

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so they needed the oil. Yeah, they're more concerned with that, and

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Kong is concerned getting that mud off
of Jessica Lang. I want to talk

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about that scene. Yeah, So
they go and they put her under the

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waterfall. Yeah. And then the
blowing scene. Why was it so essential?

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She looked like she was like actually
getting off on it. So Johanna

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didn't describe that right. King Kong
does not blow her. He blow dries

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her. He blows on her,
and actually the effect is pretty good.

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They actually made really big so he's
blowing onto her and at first she's like

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and it's like, oh, that's
cute, but then it goes on for

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too long. Like you said,
it's like, okay, we get it.

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But then she starts yeah, you're
right. She's like, oh,

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I'm like, can you not.
I could see why that guy might have

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wanted to put her in a porn
By the way, when they first got

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to the island. The first thing
they did, she just crawls around on

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the water. Jeff Bridge takes pictures
of tits almost fall out, and I

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watched frame for a frame to make
sure they did. They didn't. Unfortunately.

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Uh, she is a very sexual
character and I probably the entire movie.

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She's just kind of like I probably
shouldn't have been watching this as a

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kid, but whatever, you know, I think, you know, you

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watch the original, You're like,
I want to see the giant e fight

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the monsters, and that's just King
Kong blowing on it. Shit, Kevin

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an Organs, King Kong looks so
creepy. His pervy sex face looks so

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creepy. And then yeah, he's
like smiling, He's like he And by

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coincidence, today I sent you the
picture. Earlier, I was in Walmart

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and I see, you know,
they had the movie toys. They have

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one that says King Kong, but
it didn't look like any kind of King

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Kong. I saw and I opened
it up and the face on the figure

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is the pervy seventy six face.
I'm like, what, I'm like,

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they make a figure. I think
it's really funny that they have the King

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Kong stuff at Walmart, and then
they have the Godzilla stuff and Target,

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Yeah, they do. I notice
that it was weird. Oil guy gets

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excited because they found all this oil. But then his scientist, who I'm

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pretty sure is an actor from Star
Trek but I can't remember what character he

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played, he tells him like,
yeah, the oil will be great in

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ten thousand years, like it's not
ready to be used for stuff, and

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he's like, oh no. And
then somehow his backup play and he's like,

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oh, I know, I'll come
back with a giant gorilla. It's

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like, wait what. I think
even one of the characters was like,

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what are you talking about? He's
like, what about that Exxon tiger put

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a tiger in your tank? And
that was a paper tiger and it's like,

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yeah, well that's a man.
What are you gonna do with the

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giant girl? O? My god. So yeah, he has this whole

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plan to get Kong, which I
thought was really stupid. Then we get

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the famous tree bridge scene, which
is in most King Kong movies, and

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I think this one looks pretty decent. Kong shows up, he starts,

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you know, rocking the thing,
and at this point, no one knew

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about the missing spider pit scene in
the original, so they don't even attempt

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to do a spider pit scene,
whereas Peter Jackson was like, I'm gonna

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do a spider pit scene, KROI
King It's by Peter Jackson. Yeah,

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I've read before. My favorite thing
about this tree scene is every time someone

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falls off, they do that slow
motion blue screen of the So then Kong

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goes away and he's buy these two
big rocks which come into play later.

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And he's giant like monster movies and
rocks because it looks like a mountain,

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I guess, and it's easier to
always rocks. It's easier to dress that

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set. I don't know. So
yeah, he's buy the rocks, and

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he's still giving Lang the previous look
in the world, and he's trying to

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rip her clothes off with his finger, and he gets pretty close. He's

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pretty close. He's very rapy.
The movie calls him out on it later,

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and then at an hour and twenty
two minutes, the movie realizes something

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it forgot. When you think of
King Kong the original, what are some

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things you remember from it? Dinosaurs? Yeah, there's a lot of dinosaurs

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in the original. There's not one
dinosaur in this Uh. There is a

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giant, fake rubber snake that looks
like it's out from a Toho movie.

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I like to think that the snake
was a hero just saving He's actually saving

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Jessica Lag. She didn't cons exactly. He was the true hero of this

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snake against the anti rape. Snake
just goes around the island lecturing people.

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Yeah, so I have this written
here from a Wikipedia so it must be

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true. In a notable departure from
the original film sample, the writer dropped

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the dinosaurs that are present with Kang
on the island. The reason for the

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drop subplot was due to the increased
attention on Kanan and Dwan's love story and

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financial reasons, as Delarentis didn't want
to use stop motion animation in the film.

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Nevertheless, a giant boa constructor was
incorporated into the film. I guess

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they figure they're like, we need
one, you gotta give us one extra

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monster. But now it's kind of
weird because it's like, Okay, so

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this island. They built the giant
wall just to keep Kang and maybe this

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snake out, and that's it.
Because the original Kong and even the remake

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it's like, oh, they built
this because it's fucking monsters on the other

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side. So he gets into a
fight with a stake and he does the

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classic Khan jawl rip, which is
in every Kong. Jessica Lang and Jeff

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Bridges. They escape and they make
their way back to where the trap is

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being made. They're like, they
dug a big hole outside the wall and

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somehow they captured King Kong. They
put a bunch of knockout gas and Kan

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falls into it and just passes out
right away. That actually is a cool

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shot where his arm comes out of
the fog and then goes back down,

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and then all the natives come out
of the bushes and they're like, holy

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shit, CON's gone, which I
thought was a happy moment, but then

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Jeff Bridges makes you feel guilty about
it, and a scene coming up.

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Yeah, they somehow found a giant
ship. They get access to a giant

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ship which has find another giant thing
later on conveniently too for them. Yeah

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uh, and they find like it
has the biggest cargo hold I've ever seen

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in a ship. It's gigantic.
I want to talk about the bars of

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that too. Why are they so
large? He could stick his hand up

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in there. I know, like
it was a whole point because they just

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want Jessica gotta fall down. Yeah. Yeah, and we saw he's very

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strong. He broke the wall that
the Natives bill for how which I guess

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proves walls don't work. I mean, and some people would argue differently,

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I'm not here to argue that.
Yes, okay. So while he's being

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imprisoned, the oil guys like,
guys, Dwan, I'm gonna make you

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a star. We're gonna go coast
to coast with kan sponsored by pet Truck's

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oil. And he's like, you
too should get married and it can be

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like a big part of the story. And Jeff Bridge is like he's too

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early, too early, and she's
like what do you think? And he's

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like too early. But then Jeff
Bridges like, uh yeah, because the

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girl was like I don't know how
I feel about this. And he's like

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that ape tried to rape you.
He's evil, and he's like asked the

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natives there like multiple times too,
isn't even just like kind of like a

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oh he said it once. Yeah, He's like no, no, no,

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he tried to rape you. Yeah
yeah, And he's like ask the

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natives, and Jeff Bridge is like, the natives are gonna be miserable.

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We took away their God. Yeah, they're gonna be drunks. And yeah,

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He's like, in a few weeks
they'll be burnout drunks. I'm like,

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or they'll be happy that they can
use the rest of the island and

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sacrifice their women. Yeah, not
have to sacrifice the women and actually have

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like a generation of like children that
like maybe things just just me. Maybe

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things are gonna get better for him, especially in this version where there's no

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other giant monsters except maybe a snake. It's dead now and it's dead good.

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Two for one, those natives are
gonna be really happy. So I

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thought that was pretty offensive. I'm
like, I don't know about that,

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dude. So Jeff Bridges gets his
wish Jessica Lang goes back to his cabin,

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and then he gets Kong blocked.
Get it, Kong blocked. It's

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like cock block, but by King
kN so King Kong throws a fit.

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King Kong throws a fad and by
the way, so he's so CON's cargo

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hold, apparently on the other side
of the wall are like the crew quarters

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where they sleep because that guy gets
knocked off the wall and then all the

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important equipment for the ship must be
on the other side because it all starts

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breaking. I also want to point
out that the whole scene with Jeff and

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Jessica, they're like about to get
it on, but her mind was on

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Kong. It was that's what all
she was. She was like, yeah,

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I'll be right back, and then
she went to go look for him

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and it was like checking on him, yeah, and then she goes into

406
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.279
his cage to calm him down.
Is she actually like trying to get freaky

407
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:40.039
with this giant. Everyone's trying to
fuck each other going on why everybody's so

408
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:44.400
borny? Jeff Bridges wants to fuck
Jessica Lang. Jessica Lang wants to fucking

409
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.319
Kung. The oil guy wants to
fuck mother h Nature and get that oil.

410
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.920
Uh fucking I don't know, you
know, Dela Reents probably wanted to

411
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.319
fuck any girl who was working on
the movie. That priest wanted to fuck

412
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:02.640
that entire island. He could not
stop shaking his hands. So she finally

413
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:03.680
like calms him down. She's like, why are you waking up all these

414
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:10.160
people? You're beating an asse.
Yeah, like, hey, guys could

415
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:14.960
understand her. So the day of
the show, Jeff Bridge is like,

416
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:15.640
I don't want to be in the
show, and he's like, you signed

417
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:18.799
a contract. He's like sue me. Yeah, I don't care. And

418
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.680
he's like, Jessica Lang, come
with me, will be in love together,

419
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:27.000
and she's like eh, and he
gets mad at her for being a

420
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:33.680
woman who wants to be self be
employed. He frowns on that he's not

421
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.319
having any of that. He's like, woman with a job, it's nineteen

422
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.359
seventy six, and I will not
stand for that. That is what Jeff

423
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:45.480
Bridge says. That's an exact quote, because yeah, he's such a dick.

424
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.920
He's like, I know this is
your dream job, but I'm about

425
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.799
to be poor and sued. Do
you want to go around the country and

426
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.200
talk about apes? It's like not
really. The show starts and they refeel

427
00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.960
kung to the public. Where did
they get the giant crown? I mean

428
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.480
they made How do they make that
so fast? There's no way. Oh,

429
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:11.440
we don't know the passage of time. Yeah. So first he's in

430
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.400
a giant gas pump which is just
cloth. Then they pull it up and

431
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.839
he's in a giant cage wearing a
crown. Now the sizes of the cage

432
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:26.480
and the crown change because we get
to see the full size Kungu animatronic,

433
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:34.000
which here you go, guys,
this is everything it can do. Dude,

434
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:38.880
it's so bad. It was very
distracting too, and they cut back

435
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:44.519
and forth, so the animatronic Kong
has these big broad shoulders and then it

436
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.119
will cut to the Kong in the
suit and it's like we're in. The

437
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:52.359
cage is smaller and he's more animated. So so bad, and then he

438
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:57.119
breaks out right away. He sees
Jessica Langle. He was like, oh

439
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.599
the bad guy was like, oh
oh yeah, like this was made in

440
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.920
New York or whatever it was.
Yeah, well you're not going to break

441
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.799
yeah. I mean that that was
also in the original when they're like it's

442
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:09.680
made out of chrome steel, a
it'll be fine. And it breaks out

443
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:15.680
just like he just rips it apart, and I love. It's the worst

444
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.799
cut ever. So Kanng is ripping
the cage and then it cuts to the

445
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:25.599
animatronic Kong with the cage and it's
just going and then it gets pretty violent.

446
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:30.799
He's just flowed, stepping on people, he uh he kills oil guy.

447
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:37.039
Apparently he was gonna live. They
wanted that character to live because the

448
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.480
director in the original lived and he
was there was gonna be a setup for

449
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:45.279
a sequel and everything. But apparently
test audiences were kind of mad that he

450
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.799
didn't get killed, so they've like
worked that in where he gets stepped on.

451
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.839
The animatronic Kong is one of the
worst things. It's really fad.

452
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.960
Apparently. I think they did take
it on tour to promote the movie,

453
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.720
so they got some use out of
it. Because it looks like, shit,

454
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.440
this it's so bad. They tried. They tried, Yeah, like

455
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:07.440
there was an attempt, but it
was too stiff. Look, other movies

456
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.039
did it better. At the Jurassic
Park probably learned from the mistakes of this

457
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:15.160
movie. Kong going through the city, it reminded me of the Universal Studios

458
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:19.559
ride, the Old One. I
loved that ride. I never got to

459
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.240
go on that, but I got
to go on the Jaws one. At

460
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.160
least the jas one wasn't as good. Jaws one was fun. You jaw

461
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.920
The Jaws was fun if you love
Jaws, but it's not as good as

462
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.200
the King Kong one. The King
Kong ride was awesome. So you would

463
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:35.359
like go through the city on like
a I've seen YouTube videos and yeah,

464
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.799
yeah, and it was like,
now that was a nanimatronic KNG that looked

465
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:42.880
fucking great. Uh. It was
awesome. He would like explode out building

466
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.680
and then he was on a bridge
at the end. It was so cool

467
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:47.519
and uh. I think one of
the reasons I liked that ride is because

468
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:51.440
I liked this movie growing up,
and like, I like both of them

469
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.200
for that reason. So it was
cool seeing Kan just walk around the city.

470
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.440
I am sad they took down the
King Kong ride. Although the Mummy

471
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.880
roller coaster is pretty good. I
have never had so much fun on a

472
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:05.759
ride in Universal and the Mummy.
Oh my god, it's pretty good.

473
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.280
I would have preferred King Kong,
but I'm like, at least it was

474
00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:10.639
replaced with something. I hope I
never get rid of that. Though Kong

475
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.079
walks onto a uh he walks into
some power lines, and unlike his Toho

476
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:22.639
counterpart, he does not get electrical
power. If you guys have listened to

477
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:29.199
our King Kong Versus Godzilla episode at
Cassilla dot Com Cassila versus the pod Bonster,

478
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:34.079
remember that's a podcast we're on casts
cast Zilla is for the website,

479
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.800
but the show is called Castila.
I remember you guys, not all of

480
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:38.800
you watch on Fridays or download on
Fridays, and we need to get those

481
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:43.400
numbers up, all right, okay. And then they go into like an

482
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.159
empty bar and they're talking about buy
me a drink. Come on, buy

483
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:51.400
me a drink. Okay, wait
wait, Before that, he like destroys

484
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:55.480
a train that they were on.
So she survived like two incidents is by

485
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:59.599
the way, I thought it was
really mean. Where he finds the other

486
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:06.920
blonde girl, but it's not her
bosses, So she survives two things.

487
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.760
And her first thing is like,
wow, I really could go first.

488
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.440
I mean I probably could too,
but I want to get away first.

489
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.360
I think i'd want to leave that
area completely, like like, okay,

490
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:22.599
we're in New York. Take me
to like Delaware. So Jeff Bridges gets

491
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.239
a revelation, but I'll get to
in a second. He goes to call

492
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:29.280
the military and let them know.
And then Jessica Lang, she's hanging out

493
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:34.119
in the bar, and then Kang's
hand comes somehow finds her something. I

494
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.480
guess he smelled her and found her. But like that hand comes in and

495
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:38.719
he's on the up side of the
window, and I don't think it actually

496
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:44.960
works technically, and he's doing the
pervy like ye. And then she doesn't

497
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.679
even run away, She's like h
she like falls into the hand. I'm

498
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:52.199
like, you know, you could
have gotten away from that easily. Look,

499
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.199
Look she had to pretend for Jeff
Bridges. Yeah, like I totally

500
00:35:55.239 --> 00:36:00.679
don't want this, but I definitely
did. Yeah. So then takes her

501
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:05.199
and then Jeff Bridges knows where he's
going because there's this there's this thing in

502
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.920
New York that looks like the mountains
from his native island. And I just

503
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:12.679
want to say the end. Everyone
knows the ending of the original Koan.

504
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.760
The ending of this movie was unforgettable. I'll never forget the end of this

505
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:20.039
movie when it takes place at the
World Trade Center because they were newer at

506
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.719
the time and they wanted to one
up the Empire State but them, why

507
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.000
are you giving me that? Look? Did you not think this movie was

508
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:28.639
unforgettable? It was a very unforgettab
blinding Did you forget the end of the

509
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:34.119
movie. I know what you're doing. The Twin Towers resemble the mountains on

510
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.280
his island, which he did not
climb, but for some reason he decides

511
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.920
he wants to climb the World Trade
Center whatever, because he has to climb

512
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:47.239
a building. This Kong. Out
of all the Kangs I've seen the Seven,

513
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:52.199
the Kong Skull, Island Kong,
we haven't really seen him climb a

514
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.559
lot of things, so I can't
say anything yet because he's kind of too

515
00:36:54.559 --> 00:37:00.000
big to climb anything. This Kong
is the worst looking climbing Kong I've ever.

516
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.400
It looks so terrible. He's like, uh, because the suit's not

517
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:09.360
very mobile and it's like poorly blue
screened. So he climbs up the building

518
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:13.199
and jet Bridge just breaks into the
World Trades and the World Trade h herself

519
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.760
looks great because they filmed some move
was on location and then they built like

520
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.239
the lower parts on a set,
and then they had miniatures and I think

521
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.760
it all blends together pretty well.
So yeah, he Jetbridges made like an

522
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:28.760
agreement with the military. He's like, don't kill him, just capture him

523
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:30.800
and then I'll tell you where he
is. So you think they're gonna honor

524
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.079
that because Kong before he climbs,
he's staring at the military and they all

525
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.679
have their guns at him, and
then none of them shoot, and it's

526
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.639
like, wow, I feel like
you could solve this problem pretty easily right

527
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:45.480
now. But I guess they're afraid
of hurting the girl, which I mean

528
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.800
an ape that can kill most of
the people in the city in one chick.

529
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:51.800
I know what I'm doing. I'm
pulling the trigger. So you think

530
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.639
the military is gonna honor that.
But then Kong gets to the top and

531
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.320
then it turns out the military was
not gonna honor that, and they want

532
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.280
to kill him. It's like,
well, why do they just shoot him

533
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:05.800
when they have the chance. It's
weird, you know what? You know

534
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:09.880
what else is weird. I understand
jeff Bridges wants Con to live, but

535
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:15.199
then like the military come out,
the army guys and they have the flamethrower.

536
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.639
Yeah, yeah, and then Con
does that awesome jump to the other

537
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:22.239
building where he looks like he's flying. I like when he takes uh,

538
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.960
whatever the heck he picked up that
he threw at the dude with the flamethrower

539
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:31.559
and it explodes, yes, and
Jefferds just like yeah, he's like he's

540
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:37.000
celebrating the death of like army guys, and I'm like, that's really mean.

541
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:42.280
He goes, yeah, dirty sons
of bastards, and like like what

542
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:46.679
the fuck. Jeff Bridge is like, holy shit, Like those guys just

543
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:54.000
died trying to defend violently, yeah, but very violently. So I thought

544
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:58.639
that was pretty brutal. And then
the helicopters show up because instead of planes,

545
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:02.360
they do helicopters and they have mini
guns on the outside, and uh,

546
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.039
this is the most violent Kang death
ever. There was so much blood

547
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.239
and you know what, this has
been a pretty bloodless movie except for the

548
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:14.000
Snake, but that was very brief. So I remember being as a kid

549
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.320
because the original Kong, even if
he is bleeding, it's black and white,

550
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.000
it's still sad. But I remember
being as a kid watching this for

551
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.519
the first time and being like,
oh my god, because blood is just

552
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:28.320
squirting out of him. It's just
he's just dreading, and it's like,

553
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.800
holy shit, this is brutal.
And the reason it's like that is because

554
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.960
Dino Dila ransis he wanted he wanted
a tragic ending. And there's actually a

555
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.719
pretty famous quote from him. No
one cried when Jaws died, but when

556
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:45.360
the monkey dies, people are gonna
cry. Intellectuals are gonna love a Khan,

557
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:50.480
even film buffs who love the First
Kong are gonna love ours. Why

558
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.119
because I don't give a crap.
I don't. I don't understand the last

559
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:57.320
part of that. Basically, he
wanted a really sad ending and the only

560
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:00.840
way you can think of that is
to have just mountains of blood come out

561
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:05.599
of Con. He gets shot multiple
times, yes, blood everywhere, and

562
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:20.880
then he falls off the building,
sucked in hand and somehow doesn't just splatter

563
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.559
in said. You just get to
hear the thump thump thump, yes,

564
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:34.480
which the American Godzilla stole that Matthew
Project American Godzilla because when they do the

565
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:42.320
heart they yeah. So then Con
just dies horribly, everyone's said, and

566
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.039
then the credits just play over his
corpse while everyone's just taking was it?

567
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:50.719
Jeff Bridges and Jessica Lang are like
trying to like get to each other,

568
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.360
but everybody's crowding around like are you
okay? It's just like, clearly I'm

569
00:40:53.360 --> 00:41:00.599
okay, get away from me.
When it would did you think of this

570
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:07.639
King Kong? I really feel like
if this was not rated, what it

571
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:13.320
was rated? What was it rated? I think it was this before PG

572
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:15.760
thirteen rating, so it might have
been PG okay, and since it was

573
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:22.320
an eighth they didn't care. It
felt like a porn to me majority of

574
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:27.519
the time, because like, oh
my god, if so Italian producers,

575
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.159
as I'm learning from the show,
and yeah, thanks, thanks Tony,

576
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:35.599
Yeah, Italian producers, not Dino. Dino was pretty well respected. He

577
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:37.880
made some shit, but he made
some good stuff too. I'm found I'm

578
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.360
finding out that there's some movies that
were made as porns, but then they

579
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.079
cut the porn out and released them
in different territories as just normal movies.

580
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:52.039
This feels like that if this was
like a schlocky like something not even Coln,

581
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:54.119
just a King Kong ripoff, I
feel like I felt like monsters.

582
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:57.480
I feel like there would have been
sex everywhere, and then when it came

583
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.880
to America, an American desrib would
have been like, let's cut down all

584
00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:05.199
the sex. This is what it
feels like. It is a very sexual

585
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.679
movie. It's more sexual than a
King Kong movie has any right to me.

586
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:14.079
But I kind of love it.
I did love it too. I

587
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:16.880
was just very uncomfortable watching the lot. I loved it as a kid because

588
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.639
it's it's King Kung and it's in
color and the effects were pretty decent.

589
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.320
That was just like really like big
monster movies. Yeah, oh you do.

590
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:28.599
Yeah? Do you have a show
where you talk about the month?

591
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:36.519
You said it two times already.
Uh speaking of that, where's our shirts?

592
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:37.519
Oh? Yeah, I gotta make
shirts for that. They might be

593
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.679
No, they're not gonna be done
by the time this happens. Yeah.

594
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.239
So I used to really really love
it, and then the Peter Taxon one

595
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.519
came out and I went to rewatch
this one. I'm like, oh,

596
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:51.199
wow, this one sucks. This
one's actually a big piece of shit,

597
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:53.599
Like, what the hell? There
were no dinosaurs, it's trying to It's

598
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:59.840
really really bad. Now I've watched
it again. Uh in HD for the

599
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.199
time, thanks to you. You're
welcome. Yes, I changed your name,

600
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:06.159
by the way, on my HBO
account, I didn't have it.

601
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:07.639
I did notice that you had a
couple of people on your account. One

602
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:12.079
was Don Trump. I didn't know
you know, why are you the way

603
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.480
that you are? Why did you
change? You should see what it is

604
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:20.119
now? Oh god. Anyway,
I watched it in HD on my big

605
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.719
screen TV, and like I guess
I guess for years I was just watching

606
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:27.840
this on tape or like four x
three on t on small TVs watching the

607
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.400
big screen, like, oh wow, this movie actually looks pretty damn good.

608
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:32.480
It actually holds up. It holds
up. I mean, any effects

609
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:37.719
that are dated would have looked good
at the time. Again, this is

610
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.719
right before Star Wars and Superman in
the eighties. Uh, and it probably

611
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:45.199
would have looked better if it came
out in the eighties. But as we

612
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:49.519
fought, we will find out in
the future that's not the case. So

613
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.559
yeah, I think it's a really
good time. It's definitely not the best

614
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:54.800
King Kong movie. It's definitely not
the worst. Watch it for Jessica and

615
00:43:54.880 --> 00:44:01.000
Jeff Jessica Lliah so fucking hot.
It's such amazing, such a yeah a

616
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:07.719
still, jes what hill. That's
I wanted to mention earlier. So I

617
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:15.639
thought it was interesting that first Kong
thirties, this Kong seventies were goring Toho

618
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:22.679
Kung the remake of Kan was in
the thirties, and then U Cong Skull

619
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.519
Island was in the seventies. So
I thought it would be really cool if

620
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:30.079
the Bree Larson character from Cong Skull
Island is in Congress of Godzilla and it's

621
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.920
played by Jessica Lang, because the
age would kind of work. But then

622
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.599
I remembered no one gives a shit
about Bree Larson's character or any of the

623
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:39.880
characters in cong Skull Island. That's
a movie I like, but the characters

624
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:45.000
are very forgettable, so that idea's
kind of like forgot bigs. I know

625
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:50.679
Tom Hiddleston's in it in the new
one. It's Tom Hile. Oh yeah,

626
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:52.800
in Kngscho Island. Yeah, we
saw that together. Oh you were

627
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.599
there? Yeah? Well, because
in Godzilla King and the Monsters, the

628
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.360
Miles Dice and pre Terminator too,
he's the older version of one of the

629
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:04.199
guys in Congschull Island. So it's
like, that'd be cool if they bring

630
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.239
Jessica Lang to be the older Bree
Larson character. But then Jessica Lang would

631
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:12.519
have to act poorly to match Pree
Larsen. I like Bree Larson. I

632
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.400
don't know what happened after Congskull.
After she won her oscar. She just

633
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.119
started sucking new movies. I don't
understand what happens. I look at her

634
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:25.480
and Scott Pilgrim. Yeah, and
then I look at her and yeah,

635
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.519
remember that. I was like,
wait, that's superhero, like yeah,

636
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:35.880
and I'm like, oh, she
just she's like is it the script?

637
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.679
Because I know, like with Kristen
Stewart, like Kristin Stewart's good and good

638
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:42.480
movies, but then like things like
Twilight and other things, I'm kind of

639
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.679
like like, just maybe I'm not
watching. Maybe I'm not watching the smaller

640
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.079
indie movie she's in. Maybe she's
better, And why the hell are we

641
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:53.000
talk about Bree Larsen Anyway, everyone
just turned the channel up as soon as

642
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:58.800
I said Bree Larsen. But then
you you forgot Captain Marvel's name, so

643
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:04.800
they probably turned it back on the
woman forgot Wait there's a woman lars what's

644
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:09.199
going on here? Yeah, So
I would say, definitely check this one

645
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:13.039
out. If you have HBO Max, I'll give you a Johannah's HBO Max

646
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:16.119
account. You can make a funny
name on it. No, definitely check

647
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:20.320
it out. And then what I
like about this movie is that it has

648
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:24.039
a very definitive ending. Gong gets
shot, he falls, he plummets to

649
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:28.880
his desk, his heart stops,
he's done. So, of course,

650
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.360
of course, ten years later they
got the same director back to do King

651
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:38.079
Kong Lives, which will do another
time. Spoiler it's not very good and

652
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:43.280
it's very hard to find. Also
spoiler, he lives, he lives,

653
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:49.079
King Kong Lives, and he's not
alone. Johannah, there's a lady came

654
00:46:49.199 --> 00:47:00.880
out. He asked me if she
has dds. She has big contents like

655
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:06.719
Sharon's, like shared subscribe and uh, Jesus Christ, why did you make

656
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:16.320
me drink whiskey before? I didn't
even have that much. Oh my God,

657
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:30.159
smoke them. Hello Johannah, Hi
Tony, welcome back to the show

658
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:32.360
talking about tapes. Hello, and
welcome back from your trip. You went

659
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:35.840
to DC for some reason. I
forget why you went out there, but

660
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:37.480
I hope you had a good time
out there. It was a great time.

661
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.119
I'm sure it was great. Uh
So some things have changed here?

662
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.920
Uh well, there are mics looked
like the mics we shot with last time.

663
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.039
Yes, we did get these mechanical
arms with these nicer mics, but

664
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.599
they were way too goddamn big.
I think Newt's face was covered in the

665
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:57.599
wide shot most of the time in
the last episode, so were problem though.

666
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.519
Yeah, we're getting smaller arm so
we can use the nice mic.

667
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:04.400
So for this episode, we're back
here. Some other things have changed.

668
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:08.719
You might have noticed. We are
no longer shooting on the oh God,

669
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.840
the Black Magic Pocket cinema four K
camera. I don't know what any of

670
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:15.639
this means. Okay, so this
is what we've been shooting the show on.

671
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.960
Okay, shoots some four K.
This is a great camera. This

672
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.599
camera is awesome. It was not
meant for this kind of show. For

673
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.880
one, the lenses are prime,
so that means they're all manual. And

674
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:29.880
I don't know if you know this, but we don't have a crew,

675
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.760
so I had to be here.
We have a dummy over there, so

676
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.519
we have to be careful with the
focus. But if we like move back

677
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:39.239
or something, we would go out
of focus. There was a couple episodes

678
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:44.320
or me or new one out of
focus. So we're still gonna use these

679
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.559
for like skits or I mean just
stuff that happens, not skits. What

680
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:51.440
is this? This is a real
shows. Yeah, we're gonna do use

681
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:55.360
this for other things, more cinematic
stuff. So in the meantime, we

682
00:48:55.400 --> 00:49:02.519
are shooting on old on Yeah,
Cana next a forty five cameras, so

683
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:07.440
we still have four K footage.
The lenses aren't as nice, but the

684
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.639
file sizes are a lot smaller.
Because here's a problem I ran into.

685
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:15.440
The files in that camera are very, very big, to the point I

686
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:17.519
couldn't fit them on a terabyte hard
drive to bring them home to edit,

687
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:24.280
So I had to sign a few
weekends here editing the goddamn show. So

688
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:29.559
sounds like a problem. Yeah,
slightly less resolution cameras, but it will

689
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.079
help us in the end. I
don't think anyone's really gonna care because it's

690
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:36.320
still four K. It's still a
three camera setup. I think they look

691
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:39.960
great. Uh. Yeah, The
problem is I don't know how I'm going

692
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:45.239
to afford this because I went through
my stimulus check pretty fast. Well,

693
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:47.480
Tony, I have a solution for
you. Oh okay. When I went

694
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:52.960
to DC, I brought back some
stuff. Oh you brought back some stuff

695
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:57.320
from DC. That's that's great.
Like souvenirs are like, yeah, okay,

696
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.079
well, let's let's see what's this. You have some kind of package

697
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.320
here. These are like, oh, these look like opened envelopes. I

698
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.039
assume those are like historical envelopes.
Yes they are. Wow. I can't

699
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:13.400
wait to read them and see what
they are police hat? Did you buy

700
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.119
like a costume hat? Yeah,
there's just you know, so much merchandise

701
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:22.000
you can buy now in stores.
Huh okay, okay, yeah, let's

702
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.559
see. You have a blank VHS
tape here. I'm not sure what that's

703
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:32.639
all about. Uh, What's what's
going on here? This looks like it

704
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:37.239
looks like a prop alien hit my
favorite. Yeah, in a spaceman helmet

705
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.400
and bizarre. Oh, we got
some film in here, some old film.

706
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:45.360
Let me see what is this.
This looks like a grassy knull.

707
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:52.519
I'm not sure why there's a film
strip of a grassy knull. This is

708
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:54.559
fucking just endless here. Oh we
got another film ship, we got another

709
00:50:54.559 --> 00:51:00.599
film strip. This looks like great, you know what I think this might

710
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:02.679
be? And I don't know why
this is in DC. This looks like

711
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.119
a deleted scene from two thousand and
one A Space Odyssey because it's the moon,

712
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.760
but I can see Stanley Kubrick in
the shot. That's I don't remember

713
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:15.920
the shot in the movie, so
it's very rare deleted scene. Yeah,

714
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:20.639
so thanks for this, and thanks
for what I assume is a replica Revolutionary

715
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.440
World flagon. Yeah, yeah,
it looks like you've just pulled it out

716
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:28.920
of some historical building's yeah, that's
crazy. So yeah, stay tuned.

717
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.079
Maybe I'll sell some of the stuff
in this box Johanna brought. That's great.

718
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:35.119
You're welcome, Tony, thank you. You know what's not great?

719
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:45.960
King Kong Lives? Why did you
make me watch this stuff? So we

720
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:51.920
should probably mention we have a podcast
that we do together, cass Silla versus

721
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.800
the pod Monster. Video versions are
now on their own YouTube channel because while

722
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:59.440
people really love that show, they
don't love it as much as this show.

723
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.159
Yeah, and the low views were
hurting the growth of this show,

724
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:05.440
but we moved it to its own
channel. I mean, you should be

725
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.559
listening on podcast apps anyway. So
it still exists. We'll link to the

726
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:13.719
description. So, yeah, we
we we tend to mostly do Toho stuff,

727
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:16.360
but on this show, we decided
to dip into some good old fashioned

728
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:20.920
American giant monsters and we did.
We did the seventy six King Kong,

729
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:24.280
which I think we both agreed was
not a great movie, but it was

730
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:30.440
very enjoyable. It's not terrible,
yeah, but it's not great. Yes,

731
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:36.760
And Jessica Lang was very, very
attractive babe, Such a babe.

732
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:42.079
So ten years later they decided to
make a sequel. King Kong Lives and

733
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.960
I think we both uh, we
both talked in the last one that yeah,

734
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:49.039
pretty definitive of death. I don't
know how you do how you live

735
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:53.000
that one. There's so much blood. So I have it here. Dino

736
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:58.559
dilarentis the producer. He wanted to
make a King Kong sequel, He even

737
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.360
said, and this is bizarre because
I don't know what movie's referencing. He

738
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:06.800
said. Steve McQueen made an imagine
like a super Italian voice. I don't

739
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.599
feel like doing the Italian voice.
Steve McQueen made a picture in which he

740
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:14.039
died at the end, but then
they made another picture with Steve McQueen.

741
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.159
Many stars die at the end of
a picture then go on to the next

742
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:22.119
pink picture. Cong is a star. We're gonna have a new story,

743
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:29.199
a new Khan. It's a very
confusing sentence. So did he want to

744
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:34.199
do like a brand new Kan,
like a new ape, I don't or

745
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:38.760
just new movie. I don't know. I really don't know. But the

746
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:43.599
process to making the sequel is very, very hard because there's a lot of

747
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:47.960
rights issues. Over who owns kan
and I will recommend our good friend James

748
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.199
rolf be Angry Video Game Nerd.
He reviewed both of these movies a few

749
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:57.840
years ago and he there's a section
in that review where he talks about the

750
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:02.519
legal battle that went on something with
Paramount Paramount Universal claimed to own it.

751
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:07.400
Paramount claimed to own it. Universal
in Powermount We're gonna make them at the

752
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:09.760
same time, the creator owned it
and then they argued as an in public

753
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:13.679
domate. It was a shit show
from what I could tell. His video

754
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:17.639
explains it perfectly, so go check
that out. But yeah, so John

755
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:22.559
Gillerman's back, the director. He
wanted to make a movie called ty Pan

756
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:27.039
with Sean Connery. They ended up
this movie ended up getting made, and

757
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:30.239
we'll mention that at the end of
the episode it ended up getting made,

758
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:34.000
not with Sean Connery or this director. But yeah, they brought him back

759
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:38.559
for King Kong Lives and they tried
to convince Dino Delarentis that there should be

760
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:43.800
a Lady Kong, and he seemed
to not be into it, so they

761
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:47.400
explained it to him. It's hard
enough to accept that there's a King Kong

762
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:51.920
that's been around for fifty years becoming
a pop culture hero. No oh,

763
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:53.800
and then Dino Delarentza says, no
one is going to believe a female eight

764
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:58.320
And the writer said, Dino,
he had to have had a mother,

765
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:00.559
and Dino said, by god,
you're right. I never thought of that

766
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:07.760
there can be a female So Divo
dil Reenttiz just thought congs come out of

767
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:13.199
thin air. I guess he was
big into intelligent design. They just magically

768
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:19.800
just appear. It's like a chicken
in the egg story. Like, so

769
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.920
anyway, let's get let's get into
this movie. It opens up with the

770
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:27.440
unforgettable ending of the previous movie,
which we will never forget the ending of

771
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.199
that previous movie. But it also
like causes a problem because it's like he

772
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:37.280
was shot thousands of time and then
fell was the World Trade Center everywhere,

773
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:44.360
and he fell off the world trades
like you're not getting up from that.

774
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:50.079
But apparently he was alive, even
though I think we heard his heart die,

775
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.360
but they kept him so the military
and the scientists and stuff that we're

776
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:58.519
all trying to kill him because he
was murdering people. When they when he

777
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:00.840
finally died, they were like,
well we got keep them alive for some

778
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:06.960
reason. This isn't like when like
a murderer gets shot and they keep them

779
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:09.039
alive so we could stand trial.
This is a giant eight. You just

780
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:15.000
let the thing die. But Linda
Hamilton is the star of this one as

781
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:20.519
lady Doctor. I don't know her
name. I don't remember I this was

782
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:24.599
so hard to get through. I
don't remember anybody's name. So Linda Hamilton's

783
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:29.079
in it. She's the star of
the film. And I will say,

784
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:30.320
like it's toward the end of the
film, I'll get back to it.

785
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:34.639
She's very different than the usual kind
of woman that's in these movies, so

786
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.800
that's a plus. She still seem
bored as hell. Well, she was

787
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:40.039
bored as hell, but the way
the character's rating, it's not like a

788
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:45.079
damsel in distress, you know what
I mean. Yeah, two years prior,

789
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:47.119
she was in the Terminator. Yeah, this is where you go to.

790
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:51.559
Yeah. Well, apparently she saw
how good it did for Jessica Lang

791
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.840
and unfortunately it did not have the
same effect on her. So they want

792
00:56:55.840 --> 00:57:00.719
to give Kan a mechanical heart,
but he won't survive the surgery unless he

793
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:07.199
gets a blood transfusion. Now we
we still can't figure out and I don't

794
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:12.480
think anyone ever explains in this movie
why are they keeping King Kong a live?

795
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:17.119
What is the point of keeping King
Kong alive? I don't even understand

796
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:22.719
as like a scientific point, because
if they want to study a big ape

797
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:28.400
they have the woman, well we'll
get to that. This is before that

798
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:30.559
still, but it's at no point
do they say, hey, let me

799
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:34.519
want to return him to his island
and study him. It seems like they

800
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.800
just want to bring him back to
life and just lock him up. I

801
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:43.159
don't know, it just seems really
bizarre, right, Yeah, So we

802
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:46.960
kept a borneo and there's this guy
John Mitchell is the character name, I

803
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:52.599
think, and he finds Lady Kong
not Queen Kong, which I have a

804
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.519
copy of somewhere that is a parody
of King Kong from the seventies. I

805
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:59.840
believe that's well, I don't want
to say it's funny, but uh,

806
00:57:59.880 --> 00:58:04.400
I think the tagline, no,
but the tagline of the movie I think

807
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:07.079
is like, it's like her time
in the month again or something like that.

808
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.239
I was something like that. But
Queen Kong it's like an airplane style

809
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:14.840
comedy. It's like it's a very
spoof movie. So but I guess they

810
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:17.800
couldn't say Queen Kongs, this is
Lady Kong, and you can you can't

811
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:22.519
be confused with regular kan. They
they knew people would get confused. So

812
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:28.800
what they did is they made her
brown and gave her contests she's red or

813
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:37.719
red. So they literally just put
contents on the male Kong suits. So

814
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:47.159
girlas do have like but like they
were so distructed because it's literally like it

815
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:51.599
seems like they made two kongsuits and
they're like, oh, one's a woman,

816
00:58:51.840 --> 00:59:00.239
give it's They are like Saggy the
good God. All right, So

817
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:04.880
why haven't you ever seen this?
Like maybe once or twice as a kid,

818
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:07.960
and I forgot a lot of this
movie. So I've seen the concert.

819
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:12.320
I was like, oh no,
no, moment I saw that,

820
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:15.880
I always sat there like are you
kidding me? By the way, I

821
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:19.320
love the previous movie. It's like, yes, this beast lives on an

822
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.840
island surrounded by fog. You can't
find it anywhere. It's like there's another

823
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.280
one in Borneo. No one ever
brought it up before. They just hang

824
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:30.400
around in Borneo, I guess.
But a bunch of natives helped John Mitchell

825
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:37.400
and they like shoot darts into it
and knocks it out. They end up

826
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.960
calling him. John Mitchell is like
trying to sell this ape and the scientists

827
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:43.760
called him. They're like, we
got to make an offer on this because

828
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:46.480
we're gonna lose it. Yeah,
and Wnda Hamiltude's like, we probably shouldn't

829
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:51.079
bring a female ape here. It's
probably gonna excite him too much. And

830
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:52.559
they're like, well where else are
we gonna get the blood for this thing?

831
00:59:53.360 --> 01:00:00.000
So, uh, the university ignores
her and they buy Lady Kong everything.

832
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:06.119
It sounds like I'm making up the
plot to a fake movie. It

833
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:09.119
really does. It really does.
If someone said, hey, Tony,

834
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:13.760
come up with a plot a sequel
to Kang seventy six, I'm like,

835
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:17.360
ah, there's a Lady Kong and
they got up put a new heart and

836
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:23.840
it doesn't sound real. So yeah. So apparently both Kan's have the trait

837
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:30.800
of falling in love with attractive people. Lady k well, I mean the

838
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:34.840
movie says the guy's attractive, Lady
Kong is in love says yeah, Lady

839
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:38.000
Kong has a crush on the John
Mitchell character. Apparently you do not,

840
01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:42.440
you do not have the same taste
as a giant gorilla apparently, thank god.

841
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:49.320
But I like that both Kangs can
be perverts regardless of gender. They're

842
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.760
both perverts. Well, I mean
at least like he's not like, well,

843
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:57.400
she's not like blowing on him and
trying to rip his clothes off.

844
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:02.199
So this part is shocking. They
bring Lady Kong to the States and there

845
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:07.960
are so many reporters there. Do
they all forget what happened in the previous

846
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:13.039
movie? You just see her giant
feet in the background. They're all like

847
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:19.320
crowding around and not so it looks
like they built full size congs, but

848
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.599
they used them a lot. The
full side. They're like, Kong's gonna

849
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:25.679
be laying down in a comba in
this scene, better than the blue screen.

850
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:29.159
Well yeah, but I'm saying,
like the previous movie, when they

851
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:30.559
have the full size Kung and they
try to pass it off, it's like,

852
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:34.880
uh, they're like, yes,
we'll use the full size con but

853
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:37.679
when it's laying down and sleeping,
that was Look, this movie doesn't make

854
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.719
a lot of smart decisions. That
was a smart decision on the park,

855
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:45.559
But why aren't the why are the
reporters so eager to get so close to

856
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.880
the thing. Do they all forget
the other one just broke out apparently?

857
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:53.079
I mean again like going to Godzilla
stuff. How they all just crowd around

858
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:57.599
like, oh, nothing will happen
to me, oh giant Egg. It's

859
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.800
like, yeah, like Mathro,
whichoul probably get away for. Just take

860
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:07.159
it easy, you are dealing with
that lady. They start to do the

861
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:09.840
surgery. Yeah, and it goes
on for like twenty minutes. It's so

862
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:15.880
long. I don't need to see
you bringing all the tubes over for the

863
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:20.599
blood transfusion. I don't care,
just little clips. Like there's a lot

864
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:22.599
to do. There's a lot of
patting in this. Oh my gosh.

865
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:27.800
So they're bringing the heart and then
it almost falls and they like cut his

866
01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:31.159
heart out, and doesn't he like
start like bleeding everywhere. So like right

867
01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:35.239
before they lower his heart in when
they start like panicking like, oh,

868
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.440
like drink the blood or something.
I forget. But it's like so are

869
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:42.599
we supposed to It's hard to get
invested in it and be like, oh,

870
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:47.159
I hope KNG lives. It's like
he's a murderer, like what And

871
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:51.920
none of these characters have any relationship. It's not like Jessica Lang and Jeff

872
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:54.440
Bridges. Suddenly everybody's like, yeah, we love cong and it's just like

873
01:02:54.480 --> 01:03:00.800
who are you? Did you not
see what he just did prior No Jessica

874
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:02.679
Lang and Jeff Bridges, baby,
but everyone else they're like, yeah,

875
01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:07.039
that big gorilla that like crashed that
train and threw that chick. Like,

876
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:12.079
no, this Kong is scary.
No one wants him to live, but

877
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:15.719
he does live, and there's yeah, King Kong lives. There's a big

878
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:20.880
celebration and I don't know if you
caught this, So a lot of people

879
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:24.679
are celebrating waving flags and then there's
a little there's a little person of color

880
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:30.199
boy and he's waving a Confederate flag
and I'm like, huh, I'm like

881
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:32.159
that's that one. Oh No,
I saw that right away and I was

882
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:40.039
like, so I think the idea
was and how people probably justify the flag

883
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:45.119
back then is like, yeah,
it's a symbol of like hating authority and

884
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:50.800
the government. And it's like maybe, but it's regardless. It is very

885
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:58.119
it's very jarring. No cut to
the famous country song country for Life,

886
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:09.840
Yo doing it like Boa and Dupe
going to do hands yet, So yeah,

887
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:12.320
Hayde he's hey, he just don't
like, what does that? And

888
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:16.280
then flow, but they keep coming
back from Kong wakes up and he can

889
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:20.920
smell the female ape. I guess
he's like ripping out the tubes and then

890
01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:24.920
he's like trying to jump up on
the bars. But he's also like looking

891
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:29.000
at the moon, going like,
oh yeah. So his first thought after

892
01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:31.159
ten years in a coma. By
the way, he doesn't have atrophy.

893
01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:35.519
Apparently, his first thought is like, I gotta get laid. I gotta

894
01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:42.039
gotta get laid. Yeah. Was
there was there an Italian gentleman in this

895
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:46.000
that was a very offensive term,
Johannah. Anyway, I'm not gonna say

896
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:54.800
it. Uh yeah. So so
they they Johanna, they had ten years

897
01:04:54.800 --> 01:05:03.039
to figure out how to restrain Khan. They had ten years. He wakes

898
01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:08.639
up and just breaks the chains right, just breaks them right the fuck away.

899
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:15.239
It's not like how there's like no
scar or anything on his chest.

900
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:20.440
He's heart. He's gonna go over
time the one goes the other monkey's gone

901
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:23.880
ape shit, it's like, well, which one is in monkey or eate?

902
01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:30.119
You gotta decide which one it is. Uh. Kong shows up and

903
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:39.840
he saves lady so fuck all right, So you guys don't understand maybe it's

904
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:44.400
not showing well because it's a horrible
VHS footage, Like at no point.

905
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:46.920
I don't know if maybe maybe the
movie was able to like make you suspend

906
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:50.280
your disbelief. But for me watching
this movie, at no point did I

907
01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:55.000
think, oh, these are two
giant grillas. The entire time, I'm

908
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:57.920
like, these are two men in
ape suits pretending to be in love.

909
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:02.039
Yeah, like like not, like, these are clearly two stuntmen, And

910
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:05.760
I'm imagining the director be like,
okay, smile at each other, like

911
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:12.679
just holy chill. My favorite was
when Kong picked up the snake and it

912
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:17.239
scared Lady Kong because girls all like
icky creatures. You gotta make sure that's

913
01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:24.719
the girl thing. Yes, giant, giant, regular girl is would probably

914
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:29.960
throw the goddamn snake and beat the
shit out. Uh so I have it

915
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:32.559
in the year we just made fun
of Kan. But the KNG suits are

916
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:36.679
terrible. All the other effects at
this point in the movie have not been

917
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:44.400
table. They're like, okay,
they're okay. Also, the suits look

918
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:46.480
like something I would buy at like
party city. They don't look anywhere near

919
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:50.320
as good as the previous movie suit. So like the other one isn't like

920
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:54.360
the most like wonderful thing ever whatever, but like it was still pretty good

921
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:59.039
at this point. At this point
in this year, you've had things like

922
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:02.320
Star Wars that came out that looks
thousands of leagues better. Yeah, we

923
01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:06.679
should point out we watched a VHS
rip of this. I assume you watched

924
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:10.760
it on your big screen at home. Yeah, I watched it on the

925
01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:13.400
eighty two or in the eighty four, I watch it on my computer screen.

926
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:17.239
Okay, so maybe we're not watching
like the latest Blu ray quality.

927
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:20.480
Maybe it looks much better. Maybe
it's the quality of the VHS we have

928
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:24.079
that makes the effects look bad.
Let's give it the benefit of the doubt.

929
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:31.800
No, absolutely not. Okay.
So the army is hunting Kong and

930
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.159
Hamilton and Mitchell. I forget the
actor's name, so I think I'm saying

931
01:07:35.159 --> 01:07:40.920
his character's name. They're trying to
find them first, And I take back

932
01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:45.000
everything I said about the effects in
the previous scene. The Kongs on a

933
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:48.840
miniature set. It looks like Power
Rangers. It's so bad, and like

934
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:53.360
the whole time it wants you to
be like, look, how romantic.

935
01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:55.960
They by the way, I don't
know if I can get into gorillas being

936
01:07:56.039 --> 01:08:00.199
romantic. I honestly, god so
obviously like a spoilers, you know,

937
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:06.519
they do freaking I'm actually a thousand. I'm like so shocked they didn't actually

938
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:11.559
show it or at least like alluding
to like someone's about to go down.

939
01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:14.559
They probably could have, because have
you ever seen gorillas have sex? Yes,

940
01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:17.039
it's really bland, like the guy
just gets back and it's like oh,

941
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:19.520
and then they're done. It's like, oh, that reminded me of

942
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:24.239
the turtle. The turtles seemed to
be enjoying. It's like, who is

943
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:29.279
that Bruno Mars had that song like
a bag bag like gorilla and someone actually

944
01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:31.880
I think someone cut that song to
actual gorilla sex in some video, and

945
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:35.960
like the gorillas just seem like they're
like it's so like okay, I am

946
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:41.119
inserting, i am done. I'm
going to leave now. Like it doesn't

947
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:47.119
seem passionate or anything. The internet
has too much time. But yeah,

948
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:53.359
so it looks it looks like Power
Rangers the whole the whole miniature set looks

949
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:59.800
Parrangers better. Huh, Power Rangers
doesn't beast better? Yeah, probably us,

950
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:02.680
yes, and again and again.
By the way, the miniature sets

951
01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:09.359
like they just look like guys in
gorilla suits, and the miniatures like they

952
01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:11.920
look so bad. I'm like,
oh, these are guys in gorilla suits

953
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:15.840
on like a toy set like this, I'm never immersed in the effect.

954
01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:18.319
And like, I can't believe how
much better the seventies one was, because

955
01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:23.840
we thought some of the effects and
that were dodgy, but thelu the blue

956
01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:26.399
screen and like, I know,
I made fun of the one scene where

957
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:29.960
like was it KNG was like reaching
down or whatever it was when Jeff Bridges

958
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:31.279
was like high Yeah, yeah,
I mean there's something Dodge you really see,

959
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:34.720
like the rock move and it just
doesn't edit him out, Like I

960
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:41.439
forgive all that stuff looking at this
now, Yeah, it's so bad.

961
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.800
So Lynna Hamilton and the other guy
they're they're trying to find him and they

962
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.199
walk across a rickety bridge. Were
they supposed to do like a romantic thing

963
01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:50.880
with them with this? Like is
that what they were going with? Like

964
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:54.199
yeah, like he saves her and
I guess she's in love with him.

965
01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:58.079
Now this feels like there's a lot
of this movie that feels like padding and

966
01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:01.399
this feels like padding, really do
we need the bridge? I following,

967
01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:04.359
why do we need this? It's
not even like it's not even like the

968
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:08.520
rehashing Kang breaking the bridge. It's
like, oh, I'm on a rickety

969
01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.359
bridge and oh no, why did
we need the scenes with Kong and Lady

970
01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:15.159
Kong to last that long? I
guess we're supposed I guess we're supposed to

971
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:23.039
care about their relationship. Uh.
Yeah, So he saves her and it's

972
01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:26.319
like, what And by the way, who builds a bridge at the very

973
01:10:26.479 --> 01:10:31.000
end of a waterfall they wanted the
view or so, I don't know what,

974
01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:35.920
there's no excuse I was gonna say, Like, I mean, I

975
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:41.199
probably wouldn't build a bridge at the
end of a waterfall. I'd probably build

976
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:45.479
it further back and put a net
down in case someone fell. Yeah.

977
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.199
So they find the Kongs and like
the Mitchell guy is like, if we

978
01:10:49.239 --> 01:10:54.039
get them, we can send them
back to Borneo or Kong Island, and

979
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:56.520
uh, this is where my brain
turned on. I was like, I

980
01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:00.279
wonder how the natives are doing on
Skull Island, like because Jeff Bridge said

981
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:03.760
they were all gonna be like drunk
assholes and like we never revisited. I

982
01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:08.359
wanted to see if Lenna Hamilton it'll
be like, no, Jeff Bridges was

983
01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:11.319
right, they're all drunks. Now, he would be like, who's Jeff

984
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:15.720
Bridge. I still think it was
me and Jeff Bridges said that because if

985
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:19.800
go back and watch our King Kong
seventy six video, like Jeff Bridges like,

986
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:23.800
we took Kanng away from them,
those natives are gonna be all drunks.

987
01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:26.720
Yeah, because we took away,
like we took away were God.

988
01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:29.680
And it's like, no, I'm
pretty sure they lived in fear and their

989
01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:33.680
happiness gone. They don't have to
sacrifice our women anymore. Yeah, I

990
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:36.039
think this is a great I would
be getting drunk after. I'd be like

991
01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:42.800
hell yeah, celebratory. Uh So, Yeah, we find out that the

992
01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:46.840
Kangs aren't the only horny ones.
Linda Hamilton, who's hated the guy character

993
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:54.000
from the beginning, is now horny
and she's like, come into my sleeping

994
01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:57.279
bag, you know what. That's
all. It brings up another point of

995
01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:00.920
the dude, Yeah, only wanted
to sell Lady Kong in the beginning,

996
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.680
wanted to make money. Now all
of a sudden he cares about her and

997
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:08.079
her well being and wants her to
be okay. So I want to point

998
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:13.039
out like they didn't get horny until
they realized the Kongs were gonna fuck,

999
01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:15.960
and they gave him their privacy.
And then Linda Hamilton's like, I'm kind

1000
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:20.479
of turned on now. It's like, wait, what what did the pheromones

1001
01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:25.279
from Lady Kong interact with your pheromone? Like? What the fuck is say?

1002
01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:28.560
She's turned on by Gorilla's doing the
thing. I don't think I've ever

1003
01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:30.800
seen like two dogs humping and been
like hopped. I suddenly want to have

1004
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:34.920
said like, that's not how it
worked. Oh oh my god, it's

1005
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:40.800
weird. Right. Hamilton's like,
all those giant murdering apes are gonna have

1006
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:45.680
sex. I want to get laid
right now. I hated this movie.

1007
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:48.800
I hate this that who I want
to remind you guys, if you watched

1008
01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:55.239
the previous movie destroyed a train car, pulled out a woman and just tossed

1009
01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:59.239
her. Linda Hamilton is looking at
that same ape being like, what a

1010
01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:02.560
handsome guy. I need to Okay. So they wake up and realize King

1011
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:06.720
Kong is gone, it's only Lady
Kong that's there, and we get one

1012
01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:12.399
frame of Linda Hamilton's tits, plus
she gets out of the thing. It's

1013
01:13:12.479 --> 01:13:18.560
it's so weird. Is the movie
rated are one second U thirteen. This

1014
01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:24.239
is why the MPa sucks, because
they're always changing their mind, like what

1015
01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:28.520
is and isn't allowed. So there's
blood and gore in this and a tit

1016
01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:32.520
for a second PG thirteen. You
cannot get away with that these days anyway.

1017
01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:39.680
So we see a tit for a
second and yeah, again, I

1018
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:42.960
can't get over how bad the miniatures
and blue screen look. Kong is like

1019
01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:45.760
climbing a mountain in the daytime.
As it goes on to it's like they

1020
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:49.560
ran out of money, and they
ran out of money. Like as they

1021
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:53.640
were making more and more blue screenshots, you think they'd be like, hey,

1022
01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:59.319
let's let's joe with some of this. Lady Kong is captured and King

1023
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:03.000
Kong is not happy about this,
but he gets attacked and he escapes in

1024
01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:05.800
the river and he bumps his head
on a rock and they all think he's

1025
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:11.319
dead, and the main army guy
says, not even your King Kong could

1026
01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:17.439
survive. That he was shot by
helicopters and fell off the World Trade Center

1027
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:21.720
and he survived that the army guy
should be like, for all we know

1028
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:27.239
he's still alive, let's just throw
rockets into the river just to be safe.

1029
01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:30.880
Just I like how just his heart
was affected, not like his bones.

1030
01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:34.600
Yes, yeah, it's really hit
or miss, like what affects him

1031
01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:38.319
or not. She's like his heart. It's like he he's probably gonna bleed

1032
01:14:38.359 --> 01:14:43.159
out. He's shot and bleeding everywhere. But it's like it's like if you

1033
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:46.560
saw me fall off the roof of
this building after getting shot in the riontime

1034
01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:54.479
and then I survived and then like
like a year later, I like fall

1035
01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:57.039
off a curb and scratch my knee
and you'd be like, there's no way

1036
01:14:57.039 --> 01:14:59.880
he's gonna survive that. It's like, hey, I fell off a built

1037
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:04.560
and I survived. Like it's so
weird because it's not like people don't know

1038
01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:09.079
Kanan's history. It should have been
the most amazing thing to have ever happened

1039
01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:12.760
in history, like he would know
like, oh, he fell off from

1040
01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:17.159
a way higher thing and survived.
I hate this movie. Yeah, so

1041
01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:21.520
Lady cong is held captive and I
can't stress enough how bad the blue screen

1042
01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:27.319
is. And they decided to have
ten thousand blue screen shots where characters are

1043
01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:30.199
talking with Lady Kong. And by
the way, I think again, it's

1044
01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:33.720
it kept getting worse. It's hard
to tell in this version, but I

1045
01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:36.720
think one of the problems is I
think everything is in focus. It's not

1046
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:43.359
like they put a little blur on
her in the back. They get so

1047
01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:47.199
bad. So somehow Linda Hamilton gets
a letter from the Justice Department where she's

1048
01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:53.600
able to visit, and Linda Hamilton
has figured out that the apes are not

1049
01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:57.399
only can they smell each other,
but they're psychic. She's like, she

1050
01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:04.359
knows Kanan's alive. It's after they
banged they got that psychic link. Is

1051
01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:10.600
that a Is that a giant gorilla
trade? I'm gonna tell you right now.

1052
01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:14.199
I don't think I've ever had psychic
links with anyone, So I don't

1053
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:19.800
know what. Well that's true,
I'm not I'm not. Uh yes,

1054
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:26.359
So the Kanan Oh, So they're
like Kanng is dead. He's so big,

1055
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:30.720
there's no way he can have enough
protein to sustained his diet. What's

1056
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:34.039
he gonna eat? And then it
cuts to Kong in a swamp. Fuck

1057
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:41.159
this movie, So he picks up
a baby alligator. It is specifically a

1058
01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:45.279
baby alligator. It's snow isn't grown
enough yet, Yeah, and it wants

1059
01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:53.000
us the viewer to think that this
is a big alligator. This okay,

1060
01:16:53.239 --> 01:16:57.199
this is like if they want it
kanan to like fight a dog. And

1061
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:00.840
they brought a puppy in, like
we know the difference between a puppy and

1062
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:03.399
it like the that's a baby alligator. And then they cut because they went

1063
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:06.359
at the reaction shot from the alligator. For some god, they cut to

1064
01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:12.079
like an adult alligator which looks nothing
like the baby alligator. And the funniest

1065
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:14.840
part about this, as he's like
breaking its head and he's putting them on

1066
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:19.279
a stick, they just cut to
a frog reacting to everything, just like

1067
01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:24.680
there's so in this movie. There's
just a frog that's like it's a big

1068
01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:28.800
gorilla. Glad that wasn't me.
Why don't even think the frog can comprehend

1069
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:32.079
what's going on? Like oh,
like like when he breaks the alligator's neck,

1070
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:38.079
it cuts the frog on forever.
He was supposed to be like a

1071
01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:40.560
comedy thing. I don't I don't
know. I put them one like a

1072
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:47.479
stick, like a kimbuff. So
cut to howevery however many months, uh,

1073
01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:50.560
it takes for a cong to give
a baby to have a baby.

1074
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:56.119
Months later, Linda Hamilton and the
guy are now super in love. They're

1075
01:17:56.239 --> 01:18:00.880
they're like, they're like super romantic
for some reason. They they find out

1076
01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:04.479
Lady Kong is sad and they think
she's dying, but we as the viewer,

1077
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:09.399
no, like she's pregnant. Like
it's it's really freaking out. You're

1078
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:12.720
not gonna put a Lady Kong in
this movie and not deliver on her getting

1079
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:16.359
probably It's like, Okay, that
was a good one. That was a

1080
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:24.920
good one. Everyone clap clap for
Johannah. Okay, So how has Kang

1081
01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:30.600
gone unnoticed for this long? What
they can't? I can't. I can't

1082
01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:33.479
even argue for it because I was
thinking about it. Because he doesn't need

1083
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:38.720
to eat a lot. He's gigantic. He would be just where would he

1084
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:41.479
be hiding? That's another good I
mean, I guess they're in like a

1085
01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:43.680
weird they're in like a weird thing
where they're in the south, but there's

1086
01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:48.840
mountains everywhere. But he would be
destroying the ecosystem of wherever he was,

1087
01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:51.079
Like, it would be real easy
to find me. He would have literally

1088
01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:56.319
been brought in already they would be
doing helicopter flights all the time, but

1089
01:18:56.520 --> 01:18:59.680
it'd be like, hey, guys, did you notice there's like a shocking

1090
01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:02.960
life back of deer around and like, hey, I noticed in the swamp,

1091
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:06.199
like a lot of these animals are
overpopulating because all the alligators are gone.

1092
01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:11.159
Should we maybe check the swamp?
Like It's like he couldn't go that

1093
01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:15.479
unnoticed for that long. It's ridiculous. Hate this movie. Uh. And

1094
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:18.800
then I guess for some reason,
he shows up in Civilization. He interrupts

1095
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:23.840
like a couple that are like Mickey
up the weirdest. He's like a peeping

1096
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:26.079
tom during that scene, he's just
like, hey, they're about to get

1097
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:29.600
freaky. I remember when I got
freaky? How are you doing in there?

1098
01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:32.800
So he shows up with this town
and then the town is like it's

1099
01:19:32.840 --> 01:19:35.880
all like rednecks, and the guy
gets on a motorcycle that everyone else is

1100
01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:41.479
getting into boats and trucks, and
then he like drives underneath Kong's legs,

1101
01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:43.920
and I was expecting. I'm like, all right, they're showing how cool

1102
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:45.680
this guy is because clearly they're gonna
kill him, and then they they don't.

1103
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:49.800
Nothing happened kNN literally looks and goes
huh and then walks away. It's

1104
01:19:49.800 --> 01:19:51.439
like, what the fuck was the
point of that? And maybe it was

1105
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:55.119
just like, oh yeah, that
was rad, dude. You can live.

1106
01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:59.640
You can live only you though,
And this part I thought was really

1107
01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:02.760
u realistic. There was like a
bunch of hillbillies with like guns and stuff.

1108
01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:08.319
I hated this seem so much.
Yeah, so there's a bunch of

1109
01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:10.399
hillbillies. They're like, we're gonna
get them, blah blah blah. The

1110
01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:13.439
military comes out and they're like,
you guys can't do that, Like,

1111
01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:16.520
yes, we can. I thought
it was really unrealistic that the military armed

1112
01:20:16.520 --> 01:20:20.239
forces could not stop a roaming gang
of hillbillies. I was like, what

1113
01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:26.279
world? What world? Did I
ask you? How your DC trip went?

1114
01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:35.840
By the way, are you crying? It's great. So the Rednecks

1115
01:20:35.840 --> 01:20:40.479
are camping out, they find Kung
and they uh, they set off some

1116
01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:44.520
dynamite and they bury him at an
avalanche and having a lanche that conveniently stops

1117
01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:48.079
right where their camps, he's like
stuck up to here. Yeah, so

1118
01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:51.600
they had an excuse to use the
full size head and they I wanted to

1119
01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:56.439
say they were smart by not showing
the face of the full size head because

1120
01:20:56.439 --> 01:20:59.640
obviously it would look bad. But
whoever was in charge of the big head

1121
01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:02.159
effect, they were like, the
blue screen's gonna look a lot better.

1122
01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:06.000
And I imagine that person sat in
the theater going, oh my god,

1123
01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:11.399
it looks so much worse than what
he did. So yeah, they're like

1124
01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:15.199
torturing Kong. They give him alcohol
and then he spits it out at them

1125
01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:16.840
and yeah, all that good stuff. What are you doing? And it's

1126
01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:21.279
just like you expect a gorilla or
any type of animal not to spit out

1127
01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:26.880
alcohol, especially liquor. Yeah,
and then the one like right wing redneck

1128
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:30.039
guy, he gets like a conscience
and he betrays them, much like Richard

1129
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.960
Spencer betrayed the alt right and he
told everyone to voe for Biden. So

1130
01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:38.760
he's like the Richard Spencer of this
movie. Kong breaks out, he explodes

1131
01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:42.119
out of the thing, and I
was not ready for this level of violence

1132
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:51.680
in the movie, by the way, because it's been pretty teen. He

1133
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:57.960
gets the other guy, and I
was fucking I was laughing so hard.

1134
01:21:58.039 --> 01:22:01.359
See they drove the line at animal. Okay, the people are fine,

1135
01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:05.479
so they grab he grabs the other
guy and he eats them and then he's

1136
01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:09.399
like, oh, shot them my
teeth. Then he pulls out the guy's

1137
01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:13.920
hat. It's just I burst it
out laughing. I was like, you

1138
01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:17.199
gotta be fucking kidding. And I'll
mean one thing if this was just a

1139
01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:25.039
straight up comedy, but it's not. So those scenes feel weird. Yeah,

1140
01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:29.199
so all this excitement is hurting Kanan's
robot heart. He's like, He's

1141
01:22:29.279 --> 01:22:33.199
like, oh man, so that's
hurting. And then Linda Hamilton's got her

1142
01:22:33.239 --> 01:22:36.640
like machine that sinks up with the
heart and she's like, I gotta do

1143
01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:40.520
the sequence to fix his heart.
And then kan gets in the way and

1144
01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:43.560
steps on the machine. She's like, he won't last a day now.

1145
01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:48.560
Uh. Then they go this fucking
scene they go to the camp with the

1146
01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:53.560
Hillbillies where they're all dead, and
she's like, Kng, you've killed.

1147
01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:57.199
There's nothing stopping them from killing you. Now. It's like, yeah,

1148
01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:00.720
yeah, kN killed. He was
in New York and he killed a lot

1149
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:04.199
of people ten years. He's already
a killer, shocking as soon as they

1150
01:23:04.239 --> 01:23:08.880
forget as soon as he broke it
doesn't matter if he kills new people.

1151
01:23:09.359 --> 01:23:12.199
As soon as he broke out of
the facility. They're like, oh,

1152
01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:16.600
he's a killer, we gotta kill
him. New people doesn't matter. Okay,

1153
01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:20.159
So Kong is walking around in the
daytime and he steps on a car,

1154
01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:23.880
and by car, I mean they
went to like a store and they

1155
01:23:23.880 --> 01:23:27.840
bought like a miniature model kid.
I hate it. Yeah, But then

1156
01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:30.119
it comes to some guy going,
my dad's gonna kill me, and it's

1157
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:34.239
like, I think, I think
you're gonna get away with this, like

1158
01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:38.479
you're drunk driving or just being a
while trying to show off for a girl,

1159
01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:41.359
Like did I miss it? Did
he was? He like, oh,

1160
01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:44.640
I stole my dad's car, Like
maybe that, but it's like you're

1161
01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:47.199
like, hey, dad, I
couldn't predict that a giant gorilla would start

1162
01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:51.039
walking around and crushing the car.
I noticed it. In this movie,

1163
01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:55.159
Kan actually walks on all fours like
a regular gorilla most of the time.

1164
01:23:55.439 --> 01:23:58.119
I mean he does still stand up
and walk, but that's all. That

1165
01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:00.359
Also weird me out because of the
previous movie he didn't do that, and

1166
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:02.880
now his arms are bigger. I'm
like, what the fuck what happened here?

1167
01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:08.960
What is this the same? Uh? So that was stupid. The

1168
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:13.279
Army has Lady Kong surround it and
King Kong shows up to save her.

1169
01:24:13.319 --> 01:24:19.600
In this giant sixty football was it
Linda Hamilton or whatever and the dude or

1170
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:23.960
like trying to break into like they're
like, we'll go in nighttime, so

1171
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:30.640
military, right, the army,
And so when the dude finally breaks in

1172
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:35.239
and he's running, they just whacking
with the gun instead of actually shooting him.

1173
01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:41.159
Yeah. Yeah. Also, when
I'm breaking into a military base at

1174
01:24:41.239 --> 01:24:44.920
night, I make sure to wear
the brightest colors. Pop. I make

1175
01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:47.119
sure to wear bright white so I
can blend in with the shadow. I

1176
01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:51.680
hate this movie, but you know
who is really good at stealth, King

1177
01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:58.079
Kong. Apparently the sixty boot gorilla
is walking quietly so the military doesn't hear.

1178
01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:01.039
It's because he's black. He blends
him with the Knights. Yeah.

1179
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:05.159
In the previous movie, didn't you
hear his footsteps? Like constant positive?

1180
01:25:05.319 --> 01:25:09.520
Is he is? He tippy toeing
in this one? So he's I guess.

1181
01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:13.359
So he's like because he's on all
fours now, okay, So he's

1182
01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:16.680
sneaking looking at the military and they're
all like, huh, I wouldn't hear

1183
01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:21.960
this giant gorillica me? And then
I shit you not, I'm not making

1184
01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:28.439
this up. Kan picks up a
bunch of dirt and throws it at them,

1185
01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:34.079
much like Batman uses smoke bombs to
uh hide himself. He throws the

1186
01:25:34.119 --> 01:25:39.199
dirt to blind all of them,
and he attacks all of them like he's

1187
01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:44.600
freaking Batman. What is going on? The last thing I ever thought of

1188
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:47.079
was Kanan being stealthy, and he
beats the ship out of these tags too.

1189
01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:58.960
He actually sucks up these next page, we're almost to the end at

1190
01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:01.279
the end, so they get to
a Lady Kong's facility. They take out

1191
01:26:01.319 --> 01:26:05.880
the military guys there. They're they're
very strong apparently, uh and they're like,

1192
01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:10.560
wait, she's not sad, she's
pregnant. It's like and us as

1193
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:14.560
the audience is like, yeah,
she's pregnant. We know, we got

1194
01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:16.800
it, we got it movie.
This isn't a big revelation. It's to

1195
01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:20.000
the point where they shouldn't have made
of the surprise because everyone fucking knew,

1196
01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:23.199
Like everyone who watches us with the
half of brain's gonna be like, oh,

1197
01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:27.560
yeah, she's pregnant. So they
go into her little thing and it's

1198
01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:31.520
a what is this giant elevator inside
this big one. That scene took so

1199
01:26:31.800 --> 01:26:36.079
long you didn't have to show the
entire elevator ride. Also, that blue

1200
01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:40.680
screen for the elevator ride was the
worst thing I've ever seen in this movie.

1201
01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:44.079
Wait is this Did they make it
specifically for Kung? Is this like

1202
01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:47.560
an unused missile silo? What is
this thing that they're in? Who built

1203
01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:49.960
it? Why did they build it? Did it? Wasn't this a new

1204
01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:53.680
facility? Or am I thinking about
the previous one, because then did they

1205
01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:59.399
make No Kong ripped through that previous
one. This one's underground, so they're

1206
01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:01.920
they're about to leave the doors opening
to the top, but then the army

1207
01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:05.399
guy wakes up and closes it.
What are they gonna do? Well,

1208
01:27:05.479 --> 01:27:11.640
King Kong? He opens up the
door like a hero. Remember I think

1209
01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:14.039
he's supposed to be the bad guy, but anyway, he's a hero in

1210
01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:16.960
this one. He's like screaming,
and then the he's like was like,

1211
01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:23.399
yeah, lady, Lady Kong.
Let's just say she's in a group activities

1212
01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:28.159
because she grabs the guy like she
wants him there too, like all right,

1213
01:27:28.720 --> 01:27:30.359
like we get it, your Polly
anyway, So she grabs the guy

1214
01:27:30.680 --> 01:27:35.680
and uh, I kind of like
this because usually in King Kong history it's

1215
01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:40.840
always been male Kong grabs the girl. So I like the twist of lady

1216
01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:45.359
k grabbing the guy looks super pissed
that he was there. Yeah, he

1217
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:47.239
wasn't really thrilled about it. He's
like, a woman's touching you, How

1218
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:54.039
dare you cooking me? That's like
when you're trying to hang out with a

1219
01:27:54.039 --> 01:27:56.199
girl in like high score college and
it's like, hey, you want to

1220
01:27:56.199 --> 01:27:57.960
hang out. They're like sure.
Then you show up, like this is

1221
01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:00.880
my friend Steve, and like,
oh, she brought a guy to the

1222
01:28:00.279 --> 01:28:02.039
Oh, I thought this was a
date. We must not be on the

1223
01:28:02.079 --> 01:28:04.520
scene at one time that you know, I was hanging out with my friend

1224
01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:08.359
and she invited you over, and
then you know I'm playing Final Fantasy.

1225
01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:11.680
Yeah, yeah, like that.
It's weird, right. I was just

1226
01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:13.359
like, you guys, do what
you need to do. I mean,

1227
01:28:13.399 --> 01:28:16.039
I agree it was weird, but
that's what this is. Like. Han's

1228
01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:18.960
like I saved you and you have
my baby, and who's that guy?

1229
01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:26.680
Is he? Like your friend?
Who is? Yeah? So they escape

1230
01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:30.680
and then there's like another and by
the way, I'm saying Hillbilly, I'm

1231
01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:32.720
not saying because they're from the South, and I'm not saying rednecks. I'm

1232
01:28:32.720 --> 01:28:38.399
not being offensive. This movie is
portraying them as stereotypical hillbilly and rednecks.

1233
01:28:38.439 --> 01:28:41.159
Like this is when I say that, I mean that's what the movie wants

1234
01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:44.760
me to think, that type bullshit. Yeah, this isn't like just this

1235
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:48.720
isn't an accurate representation of most of
the South. I feel like that being

1236
01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:53.119
said. Like my dad, My
dad is a very Italian guy with a

1237
01:28:53.199 --> 01:28:56.640
mustache who makes pasta all the time. So who am I to talk about

1238
01:28:56.640 --> 01:29:00.439
stereotyping. He should be on a
video soon. I should get him in

1239
01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:03.159
an a review. Let me know
if you want my dad in the review.

1240
01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:06.039
We have some ideas of what we
can review together. But do you

1241
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:09.560
guys want to see me review a
movie with my dad? Let me know.

1242
01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:15.159
Yeah. So they they crash the
hillbilly thing and it's so funny because

1243
01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:19.359
the guy's like, what's up in
our family reunion and blah blah blah blah.

1244
01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:23.720
In the background, you see the
congs, but the blue screen is

1245
01:29:23.760 --> 01:29:27.279
so poor that it almost looks like
they're just right there next to the people,

1246
01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:30.079
Like if you they're just still partying
and it's just like, yeah,

1247
01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:34.079
that's happening outside what Yeah, like
the whole the sense of scale and perspective

1248
01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:40.640
does not work in this movie.
And we watch for our podcast, we

1249
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:45.079
watch fucking to Godzilla, King Kong
movies that somehow pulled this off. That's

1250
01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:49.439
even like this. This actually reminded
me of the neys Godzilla game. Remember

1251
01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:53.760
with the volcano you head jump over
it, but it literally looked like it

1252
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.319
was so far away. Yeah,
but it was like in the fort.

1253
01:29:56.359 --> 01:29:59.960
It's so weird. But we watched
these like stupid like King Kong. God

1254
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:03.479
still love movies from the past,
and somehow I'm able to get more immersed

1255
01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:08.880
in those than this anyway, So
they all flee and lady Kan falls back

1256
01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:13.920
into the bar because she's going into
labor. It's baby time, she's about

1257
01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:16.680
to have She's about to go into
labor. But then the military shows up

1258
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:21.600
and Kan has to defend his lady
and he gets shot to ship again.

1259
01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:28.119
It's it's time his problem. It's
not as bad as the previous one,

1260
01:30:28.399 --> 01:30:44.279
but it's still a lot of blood. It's super bloody. But uh,

1261
01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:48.800
I don't know, but yeah,
so he like kills basically the entire army,

1262
01:30:48.840 --> 01:30:53.800
which I think is again he did
that in the previous one. No

1263
01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:58.039
one cheers this time. The previous
one, Jeff Bridges cheered when the army

1264
01:30:58.079 --> 01:31:03.800
guys like you get yourself as really
mean. Uh, some kN kills all

1265
01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:06.920
of them. He's like hurling tank
I do like the Hong Kong is hurling

1266
01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:12.159
tanks and stuff. Uh. But
then the main army guy who I keep

1267
01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.319
calling main army guy, I don't
know his name. I think I had

1268
01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:17.000
this song with Justin earlier. I
think he said that guy was in Beverly

1269
01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:20.159
Hills cop the main army guy,
but I'm not sure. Uh. So

1270
01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:26.279
he's like shooting Kanan. Yeah,
and then Kong and his last effort.

1271
01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:30.000
Wait, the guy has plenty of
time to run because Kong holds his fist

1272
01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:33.239
up for what He's just standing there
like, oh well, I'm not gonna

1273
01:31:33.239 --> 01:31:36.840
get squished by that giant hand.
And then he just crushes the locket.

1274
01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:44.239
I laughed. I laughed. I
laughed so hard. Uh. Okay,

1275
01:31:44.680 --> 01:31:48.640
so he's dead. Uh. Kong's
heart is finally giving out, or it

1276
01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:51.920
could just be he's bleeding out from
the millions of bullets that a inside of

1277
01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:58.640
him. Well both, and Lady
Kong gives birth to baby Kong, and

1278
01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:02.199
I told you, like I think
on paper, this scene must read really

1279
01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:08.600
well and be very tragic. It's
like Kung Lady Kong gives birth and Kan

1280
01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:13.920
Krals he's reaching for the baby.
Hamilton's will like, yes, reach for

1281
01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:17.319
him. Because then the dudes also
like let him see his son, because

1282
01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:20.960
because gorillas can't talk and you need
someone to give direction, and so yeah,

1283
01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:24.720
the heroes are like, look at
him, show him, and then

1284
01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:29.119
the baby Kong's like daddy. Ah. And by the way, baby Kong,

1285
01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:31.279
it's just a guy in a gorilla
suit. Yes, it's the same

1286
01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:34.840
humans, which I don't think.
I think it should be a little bit

1287
01:32:34.880 --> 01:32:38.600
bigger anyway. So it's just a
guy in a gorilla suits. You literally

1288
01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:41.920
went through all that labor just to
pop out like a cherry. Yeah.

1289
01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:45.640
Uh. And it's just like it's
like daddy and then and then he dies

1290
01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:48.720
and he's crying, and then the
baby's like, what's going on? I

1291
01:32:49.079 --> 01:32:53.000
just was born a second ago and
now I have to learn about death.

1292
01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:57.439
What's going on? Reminds me of
that sad video of the Uh that's gonna

1293
01:32:57.479 --> 01:33:00.399
that's gonna bum people out. I
was watching some nature video where like a

1294
01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:05.520
thin an antelope gave birth to another
anelope, and the baby animal to another

1295
01:33:05.560 --> 01:33:10.800
animal gave birth to a tiger.
You know. The antelope is like learning

1296
01:33:10.840 --> 01:33:13.359
to walk and it still is the
placenta and it's like oh, and then

1297
01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:15.760
a cheetah grips and it's like,
oh, oh, that's gonna be hard.

1298
01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:19.159
It's like so horrifying. It might
have been a zebra. I don't

1299
01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:24.319
know anyway. So this baby is
just born in Kong and it sees its

1300
01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:27.000
dad dies, so it like it
has to figure out what death is and

1301
01:33:27.039 --> 01:33:31.800
it's like ah uh, and it's
very emotional and like it should be emotional,

1302
01:33:32.319 --> 01:33:36.239
but the effects are so bad.
The baby Kong looks like shit,

1303
01:33:36.720 --> 01:33:42.239
The adult kungs look like shit.
The awful blue screening of Linda Hamilton and

1304
01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:45.800
the other guy look like shit.
So the scene that should read very very

1305
01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:51.520
sadly, it's just very very cringing. It's like last week we did collateral

1306
01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:56.880
damage with Arnold Schwarzenegger and when his
family dies in the beginning, it should

1307
01:33:56.920 --> 01:34:00.000
be sad, but the way it's
filmed, it seems like it's an appaent

1308
01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:01.640
movie. This is what this is
like, this should be sad, but

1309
01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:08.680
it's being filmed so poorly. Uh
yeah, And for some reason, more

1310
01:34:08.720 --> 01:34:12.680
military people don't show up and kill
the other Kongs. They I assumed they

1311
01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:15.520
flew them back to Borneo because now
a lady Kong is in the woods,

1312
01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:24.119
she's like or whatever, YU like
swing in and they're like, huh you

1313
01:34:24.159 --> 01:34:27.720
guy, oh man. And then
it's like supposed to be a happy ending.

1314
01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:33.000
You know what happy ending? Was
it actually ending? Yeah? This

1315
01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:38.920
this one's bad. This one's really
You told me that it was uh what

1316
01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:42.880
was your wording? Sometimes some type
of short hold on the hell? Did

1317
01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:46.119
you tell me mercifully? Sure,
it's only an hour and thirty minutes.

1318
01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:51.680
That's still too much. It's it's
shorter than me and Newt's Ghostbusters two review,

1319
01:34:51.720 --> 01:34:57.479
which ended up being longer than the
movie. It it feels longer than

1320
01:34:57.479 --> 01:35:00.840
it is. That's the thing.
It's a short movie. But because yeah,

1321
01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:01.960
because you wanted it to be over. You want it, Yes,

1322
01:35:02.039 --> 01:35:06.760
yes, you very much wanted to
be over. So so that movie I

1323
01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:10.800
mentioned in the beginning that the director
wanted to do I think it was called

1324
01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:15.199
what was it, Tye Taypan,
right, yeah, Taipan. So they

1325
01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:18.439
ended up making that movie different director, No, Sean Connery. They made

1326
01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:21.640
that movie and they made this and
it bankrupted, you know, Dela Ranis's

1327
01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:28.000
company. He eventually rebound it because, unlike other Italian directors, he actually

1328
01:35:28.199 --> 01:35:31.479
made good movies. Occasionally he did
schlock, but he eventually did the Silence

1329
01:35:31.479 --> 01:35:38.279
of the Lambs movies and stuff like
that, so bankrupted the company. Lynda

1330
01:35:38.279 --> 01:35:41.640
Hamilton said she liked that she wasn't
the damsel in distress, but the movie

1331
01:35:41.680 --> 01:35:45.000
wasn't very good. Uh. And
then I set you the clip, and

1332
01:35:45.039 --> 01:35:49.079
I can only find someone filming their
TV of this. Yeah. So the

1333
01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:56.279
studio sent like the thing to Cisco
and Ebert and they they said, we're

1334
01:35:56.319 --> 01:36:00.520
not gonna get you. We're only
gonna give you clips for your low show,

1335
01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:04.000
not your national show, and you
have to sign a paper saying you

1336
01:36:04.079 --> 01:36:08.680
won't show the clips on the other
show, or we're not going to give

1337
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:11.600
you. You're not allowed to have
any of these clips. But this new

1338
01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:16.319
one is so bad that the film
company actually said Roger and me letters saying

1339
01:36:16.359 --> 01:36:20.000
they would let a show snippets of
the film on our local TV shows in

1340
01:36:20.079 --> 01:36:27.279
Chicago only if we promised in writing
not to show you the same clips on

1341
01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:31.039
this our national show. Obviously they
were scared, and obviously neither one of

1342
01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:35.079
us would sign such a letter.
So no scenes from King Kong list.

1343
01:36:35.079 --> 01:36:40.840
That's almost a public service instead,
just this morning. If you don't believe

1344
01:36:40.960 --> 01:36:45.239
me or Roger, believe a film
company that think about it couldn't find a

1345
01:36:45.359 --> 01:36:51.000
single scene they didn't wanted you to
see. So how's this ranked your King

1346
01:36:51.119 --> 01:36:56.479
Kong? How would you write this
about the other King kNs? Here's the

1347
01:36:56.520 --> 01:37:00.319
other ones? Yeah, I can't
even show where this is better than worse

1348
01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:04.199
than King Kong escapes. Now that
one was actually that one was actually stupid

1349
01:37:04.239 --> 01:37:09.840
that a robot con I laughed,
like, you know, it wasn't like

1350
01:37:09.880 --> 01:37:11.960
the like ha ha haa, it's
really bad. I was just kind of

1351
01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:15.880
like, oh ha ha. It's
hard to think Kan seventy six as a

1352
01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:17.880
disappointing sequel because it's like, all
right, Gong s eventy, this was

1353
01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:23.079
fine, Like I shouldn't feel like
that wasn't it ruined the memory of the

1354
01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:26.760
previous one because the previous one's not
great. But yeah, this one sucked.

1355
01:37:26.800 --> 01:37:31.640
This one was so fucking bad.
Were they just trying to force another

1356
01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:34.359
one out to like I don't know
what, because I think the first one

1357
01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:38.399
did okay. I think it made
money, but it wasn't like a huge

1358
01:37:38.399 --> 01:37:41.920
cultural impact. I mean it helped
Jessica Lang and Jeff Bridges' career, but

1359
01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:46.039
I don't think anyone won it a
second kan, especially ten years later.

1360
01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:51.680
Like maybe I had to do something
with the rights where they had to like

1361
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:55.399
do something to make you know,
like with Sony and Spider Bull. Well,

1362
01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:57.439
like I said, there was a
lot of legal issues. What I

1363
01:37:57.479 --> 01:38:01.039
mean, maybe there's like a thing
like that. Imagine getting like a sequel

1364
01:38:01.119 --> 01:38:04.479
to the Broaderick Godzilla in two thousand
and eight. That's what this is.

1365
01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:08.479
Like, it'd be weird, right, I'd be like, oh, yeah,

1366
01:38:08.520 --> 01:38:12.720
I remember that movie where they're doing
a sequel to that one. Seems

1367
01:38:12.760 --> 01:38:15.439
odd. Did they leave it open
at the end too, Yeah, in

1368
01:38:15.479 --> 01:38:18.720
the cartoon series picks it up,
But yeah, uh skip this one.

1369
01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:24.680
Skip it unless like you're like super
bored. You're trying to do like a

1370
01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:28.760
drinking game or some I don't know, something stupid. Yeah, have fun.

1371
01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:32.000
Drink every time that's a bad blue
screenshot. You'll be dead. Drink

1372
01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:39.199
every time you see the Lady Kong
titty. Well, Johanna, that was

1373
01:38:39.199 --> 01:38:42.800
fun. What's not fun is how
am I gonna sell all this stuff you

1374
01:38:42.840 --> 01:38:46.239
got me from DC? Well?
I have some interested buyers. Oh you

1375
01:38:46.239 --> 01:38:49.600
should put on this hat just because
it's funny. Okay, are we gonna

1376
01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:53.920
like take a picture so people know
what they're getting. I'm gonna take a

1377
01:38:53.960 --> 01:38:57.439
picture of you with cheery Should I
hold this replica flag? Yeah? Okay,

1378
01:38:57.600 --> 01:39:00.840
smile yeah, perfect? Yeah cool. I guess people will see that

1379
01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:11.079
picture and then want to buy the
stuff, right, yeah, okay,

1380
01:39:13.079 --> 01:39:16.239
I mean is that is that something
else you got from DC? Yeah?

1381
01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:20.319
Yeah, I want to show it
off. Oh you everybody felt about it,

1382
01:39:20.359 --> 01:39:32.720
you know? Okay, well that's
that's pretty interesting. And oh it

1383
01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:42.960
looks like there's someone outside. Oh
my god, I smoke them United States

1384
01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:45.840
sitting up. No, No,
I had nothing to do with that.

1385
01:39:45.920 --> 01:40:00.680
I wasn't even in DC. I'm
sorry, I'm sorry. I like how

1386
01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:04.680
these movies did the shared universe,
like where it wasn't annoyingly interconnected like the

1387
01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:08.960
Marvel ones have become or the DCEO. It's like, oh yeah, there's

1388
01:40:09.039 --> 01:40:14.760
an organization they deal with monsters liked
to put that in like, oh yeah,

1389
01:40:14.960 --> 01:40:17.399
like he's still gonna he's still growing. Don't worry. He'll be big

1390
01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:28.079
enough to punch Godzilla. Don't worry. The question we're going to ask in

1391
01:40:28.119 --> 01:40:32.039
this review is did Peter Jackson do
too much? Was he a little too

1392
01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:34.720
excessive with this film? I think
it's a very good question to ask,

1393
01:40:34.880 --> 01:40:41.399
yes, because this movie is famously
very long, and people highly criticize that.

1394
01:40:41.880 --> 01:40:45.880
I showed you you had seen these
scenes out of context, most not

1395
01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:47.800
all of them, but most of
them I'd seen on YouTube, like the

1396
01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:51.680
cut scenes. So this is the
first time you've watched the extended cut with

1397
01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:56.920
thirty eight minutes of deleted scenes.
It was shockingly long movie. Yes,

1398
01:40:57.119 --> 01:41:00.359
longer, but it feels longer.
What is the runtime of the extended cut?

1399
01:41:00.680 --> 01:41:08.119
Because the standalone movies three hours?
Right, the standalone movie is three

1400
01:41:08.159 --> 01:41:12.800
hours eight minutes, so we're talking
about plus thirty eight most of four hours.

1401
01:41:12.960 --> 01:41:21.399
The hell just drop. It was
the Lola Lola up. I love

1402
01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:26.760
this movie. I was saying that, you tell he saw my starlog magazine.

1403
01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:30.359
I was this is like one of
the movies I can remember just slavishly

1404
01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:33.760
following the production. Yeah, yeah, it was a big deal when it

1405
01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:36.840
came out, and it was good
because he was putting out those production diaries

1406
01:41:36.880 --> 01:41:40.640
and whatnot, so this is a
movie you could follow. It was also

1407
01:41:40.720 --> 01:41:43.039
right after Lord of the Rings,
so everybody want to know what is this

1408
01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:45.800
guy going to do next? Yes, we were all hype on Lord of

1409
01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:47.239
the Rings. Peter Jackson could do
no wrong. I had gone back and

1410
01:41:47.279 --> 01:41:50.640
I watched some of his horror stuff
and film pretty fun. Yeah, yeah,

1411
01:41:50.680 --> 01:41:54.439
so I'm just like, I am
all on board for the next Peter

1412
01:41:54.520 --> 01:41:57.319
Jackson thing. And then he said
he was doing King Kong. And I

1413
01:41:57.359 --> 01:42:01.520
love King Kong. Probably my favorite
giant monster, the thirties movie. Yes,

1414
01:42:01.640 --> 01:42:05.199
yeah, Kingkong. In generally,
I've talked about how the seventies,

1415
01:42:05.640 --> 01:42:10.319
the seventies King Kong is really creepy, but I like it. For some

1416
01:42:10.359 --> 01:42:13.920
reason, King Kong Lives not so
much. I wasn't a big fan of

1417
01:42:13.960 --> 01:42:16.119
King Kong versus Godzilla, but I've
seen the Japanese at it. I love

1418
01:42:16.159 --> 01:42:18.720
that movie. The Japanese version of
that movie is great. I mean,

1419
01:42:18.840 --> 01:42:23.279
King Kong still looks stupid in it, of course, but I've actually also

1420
01:42:23.399 --> 01:42:26.439
gone back and watched King Kong Escapes
I've never seen that. That's a fun

1421
01:42:26.439 --> 01:42:29.199
one. Okay, I need to
check that out. Yeah, and dress

1422
01:42:29.319 --> 01:42:31.079
part kind of was like the modern
King Kong in a lot of way,

1423
01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:33.239
even reference to the movie and yeah, what I got in there? King

1424
01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:35.840
Kong? It really have to make
a modern King Kong. But they did

1425
01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:39.680
it anyway. I'm glad they did. Yeah, and it's surprised it didn't

1426
01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:42.720
happen earlier, but it almost did. It almost did. And Peter Jackson

1427
01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:46.880
was involved with it early on.
It's crazy to think he did Frighteners than

1428
01:42:46.920 --> 01:42:49.800
the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
Yeah, and there's a lot of stuff

1429
01:42:49.840 --> 01:42:53.920
behind the Lord of the Rings trilogy
and how that was, you know,

1430
01:42:54.079 --> 01:42:57.399
going on, and how it could
have changed behind this. Originally it was

1431
01:42:57.439 --> 01:42:59.920
gonna be like two films, I
think, and then they got involved,

1432
01:43:00.119 --> 01:43:02.720
No, it has to be three. They famously pushed the production back because

1433
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:06.399
they had to grow the shire.
Peter Jackson almost did this movie in nineteen

1434
01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:11.000
ninety six. Yes, and it
was pretty different. There's gonna be carnotauruses,

1435
01:43:11.520 --> 01:43:14.119
there was gonna be a lot of
different animals, but a lot of

1436
01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:17.079
the creature designed that they initially went
for in the in that back in the

1437
01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:21.039
nineties they transferred over to this film. Okay. Famously, there's this big

1438
01:43:21.079 --> 01:43:25.720
statue of Kong fighting the three t
rexes I think they were called back then.

1439
01:43:25.840 --> 01:43:28.000
Yeah, and they still have it, I think in Weta like,

1440
01:43:28.079 --> 01:43:31.119
oh, I believe they do.
Yeah, this movie was a long time

1441
01:43:31.119 --> 01:43:34.159
in the making, and it wasn't
until you know, you proved yourself on

1442
01:43:34.199 --> 01:43:38.680
this little Lord of the Rings thing
that will give you King Kong. But

1443
01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:43.319
yeah, it's very interesting to look
back at. We were talking about this

1444
01:43:43.399 --> 01:43:47.479
last night. Yeah, Jurassic World
is almost ten years old. This movie

1445
01:43:47.479 --> 01:43:50.399
was ten years old when Jurassic World
came out. Yeah, and now it's

1446
01:43:50.439 --> 01:43:57.000
seventeen, like it's getting close to
like its twentieth anniversary, which is shocking.

1447
01:43:57.119 --> 01:44:00.600
But yeah, second best King Kong
movie ever. Eight Yeah, probably

1448
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:05.000
yea. Yeah, I do love
this movie and I love the passion he

1449
01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:09.079
put into it because it's his favorite
movie. Is the original King Kong.

1450
01:44:09.199 --> 01:44:13.640
You can tell you got to remake
it. Could you imagine remaking like a

1451
01:44:13.680 --> 01:44:17.039
great original, like a film in
your own vision? Like how do I?

1452
01:44:17.039 --> 01:44:20.159
I couldn't do it. I couldn't
do it because there's no way to

1453
01:44:20.199 --> 01:44:25.600
improve upon Roadhouse it's all right.
Okay. So if someone said, Tony,

1454
01:44:25.640 --> 01:44:27.880
You're gonna remake Roadhouse, I'm like, I don't know how to do

1455
01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:31.159
it. I couldn't. It's impossible. And not only Roadhouse, but the

1456
01:44:31.239 --> 01:44:38.359
lore of Roadhouse too. Shut up
the no, there is no Roadhouse too

1457
01:44:38.840 --> 01:44:44.359
anyway. Uh, Roadhouse the final
chapter. But somehow Peter Jackson like,

1458
01:44:44.399 --> 01:44:47.079
you're gonna remake King Kong. He's
like, yeah, I'm in uh not

1459
01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:50.239
the first time directors remade a movie
they love. John Carpenter got to do

1460
01:44:50.279 --> 01:44:55.000
the thing, uh, Peter Steven
Spielberg, War the Worlds, Yes,

1461
01:44:55.199 --> 01:44:59.560
uh yeah, there's loads. Yes, this was an incredible film to like

1462
01:44:59.640 --> 01:45:02.680
watch production of, to like read
the behind the scenes. I think he

1463
01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:05.720
talked about like the nineties one even
he admits probably what it sucked. They

1464
01:45:05.720 --> 01:45:09.880
were like wacky jokes in it,
and really I did not know that.

1465
01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:12.600
I think they were trying to be
more like an Indiana Jones thing, and

1466
01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:16.159
the other version sounds fun to me. Yeah. I mean that that model

1467
01:45:16.239 --> 01:45:20.079
worked for the Mummy movies, so
it's working for Jurassic World. Yeah.

1468
01:45:20.119 --> 01:45:24.439
I mean those movies are raking in
like billions. I do wonder though,

1469
01:45:24.439 --> 01:45:29.520
because this movie plays it more.
So this movie comes off more like it's

1470
01:45:29.520 --> 01:45:31.399
funny we talk about Jurassic Park.
It actually reminds me more of the Lost

1471
01:45:31.439 --> 01:45:38.239
World. Yeah, like the jungle
and the more viciousness of the animals.

1472
01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:42.000
And we'll get to the creature designed
later on, because I also want to

1473
01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:45.439
connect that back to the newer Jurassic
Park movies. But uh, yeah,

1474
01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:47.279
you know, Jurassic Park was a
big thing in the nineties, and then

1475
01:45:47.319 --> 01:45:51.479
of course you've got this ninety six
before Lost World even come out, So

1476
01:45:51.520 --> 01:45:57.399
they probably were like, let's combine
Raiders with the special effects. That makes

1477
01:45:57.439 --> 01:46:05.960
a lot of sense of Jurassic Park
and Redo Kingong, Yeah sense. Yeah,

1478
01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:11.359
we watched the very, very long
version. Yeah. Oh, and

1479
01:46:11.399 --> 01:46:15.000
we have some opinions on it.
Yeah, And I remember people giving me

1480
01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:16.439
a lot of shit for loving this
movie because it was so long. People

1481
01:46:16.479 --> 01:46:20.479
complained about it back then. Yeah, as I'm old, as I've matured

1482
01:46:20.520 --> 01:46:25.600
and gotten older looking back, I
still love this movie. Yeah. But

1483
01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:28.359
now that the hype has died down
and everything, I'm looking at it now

1484
01:46:28.399 --> 01:46:30.159
and I'm like, yeah, they
could have shaped a lot out of this.

1485
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:33.560
Yeah, they could have really trimmed
out a lot of this to make

1486
01:46:33.600 --> 01:46:39.399
it a better experience for sure,
Like because the funny thing I talked to

1487
01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:42.840
you about is it's not like you
can take out a bad scene. It's

1488
01:46:42.840 --> 01:46:46.600
that all of these greatly made scenes
are making for a poor narrative. And

1489
01:46:46.680 --> 01:46:51.239
I think that was Peter Jackson,
not necessarily because you can see he's throwing

1490
01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:56.520
everything he can at the movie and
it's cool. But unlike The Lord of

1491
01:46:56.560 --> 01:47:00.880
the Rings, where you've got three
three act structured movies that are these characters

1492
01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:04.199
are being developed over the course of
several different struggles. But this movie is

1493
01:47:04.279 --> 01:47:06.680
just a remake of King Cols.
That's the thing, like I think we've

1494
01:47:06.760 --> 01:47:11.520
learned now, especially from The Hobbit, Like Lord of the Rings, those

1495
01:47:11.560 --> 01:47:15.359
are really long books. You can
condense and move things around and you can

1496
01:47:15.439 --> 01:47:18.600
make long movies out of them.
And this is this should have been a

1497
01:47:18.640 --> 01:47:20.920
warning for us. With the Hobbit, it's like, hey, King Kong's

1498
01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:26.760
not a long movie. Yeah,
this didn't need to be that stretched out

1499
01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:30.159
with these many characters. And then
the Hobbit comes along and it's like this

1500
01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:31.760
did not need to be this long, buddy, Well, especially the third

1501
01:47:31.800 --> 01:47:35.319
one, I thought, that's that's
Peter Jackson's Achilles Heel. It might be

1502
01:47:35.479 --> 01:47:39.199
like, and I get it,
making the long movie, making the big

1503
01:47:39.520 --> 01:47:44.479
long movie. He normalized the three
hour movie. Multiplexes will show it more,

1504
01:47:45.239 --> 01:47:47.359
it'll run longer, It'll push all
these other movies out of theaters because

1505
01:47:47.359 --> 01:47:49.600
people want to go see the big
movie. Well, I think there's a

1506
01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:53.199
caveat to of that if you release
it at a good time, because this

1507
01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:55.560
movie came at the very end of
two thousand and five. Yes, like

1508
01:47:55.640 --> 01:48:00.319
December, where December nothing was competing
against it. Chronicles of Narnia did that

1509
01:48:00.319 --> 01:48:02.039
come out of December? Yes.
I saw both of those in theaters.

1510
01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:04.720
Yeah. I remember all my friends
were hype for Narnia. I'm like,

1511
01:48:04.760 --> 01:48:06.800
I look like a poor man's Lord
of the Rings. I'm gonna go see

1512
01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:13.920
King com I have since see here's
my problem with here's the problem I have

1513
01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:17.039
with Narnia, and I'll show you
when it came out. So Narnia comes

1514
01:48:17.039 --> 01:48:25.199
out. Uh. And in high
school, my hair and everything, I

1515
01:48:25.279 --> 01:48:28.279
looked like you look like mister Tummins. I looked like mister Tumnus in high

1516
01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:30.880
school, you did look like that. Everyone called me mister Tummins. Oh

1517
01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:34.319
okay, and then I eventually watched
the movie. I'm like, I'm a

1518
01:48:34.359 --> 01:48:38.760
fucking goat man to you people,
well what epic movie came out? Like

1519
01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:43.279
right after that? They're right,
actually, and then don't worry. Years

1520
01:48:43.359 --> 01:48:46.159
later I embraced it and I was
drunk mister Tumnus with Halloween. I walked

1521
01:48:46.159 --> 01:48:49.039
around with like the horns. I
got it. I got it. So

1522
01:48:49.199 --> 01:48:53.279
I was just like, fuck,
got a coat, I'm gonna go see

1523
01:48:53.279 --> 01:48:57.279
the Gorilla movie. I remember seeing
the trailer for this and getting hyped.

1524
01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:00.840
Really cool, really dark, really
fun. I remember not being too sold

1525
01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:02.720
on King Kong's design, but that's
fine. It changed it. Yeah,

1526
01:49:02.760 --> 01:49:05.439
yeah, what's just funny this making
of King Kong. But they still got

1527
01:49:05.439 --> 01:49:10.520
the tooth thing. Me find it. I was skimming through the video game

1528
01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:15.159
you were talking about also kind of
still has the uh the older unrevised look

1529
01:49:15.159 --> 01:49:16.880
of cong Yes, which I have
the I have the video game right there,

1530
01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:19.239
but yeah, it's just like the
final shot of Kong and it's with

1531
01:49:19.319 --> 01:49:23.760
the tooth sticking out. Yeah.
I remember that image was everywhere. Yeah,

1532
01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:27.760
and promotion. Then they re they
remodeled it. They do have some

1533
01:49:27.800 --> 01:49:30.399
of the updated design. Why did
they remodel. It was it after like

1534
01:49:30.760 --> 01:49:33.680
people complaining online or just that maybe
they just changed their mind, because remember

1535
01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:38.840
Gollum, by the way, skimming
through this this movie, you're gonna think

1536
01:49:38.840 --> 01:49:42.680
it's all digital. A lot of
their giant sets miniature. It looks good.

1537
01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:45.840
Yeah, some of the green screen
and blue screen might not look good

1538
01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:47.800
today. Okay, okay, you
know, but when they're on a set,

1539
01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:51.640
like look how big that wall set? Cool? But anyway, yeah,

1540
01:49:51.640 --> 01:49:55.319
I remember seeing the trailer and then
like months later, like even the

1541
01:49:55.479 --> 01:49:58.840
poster, and then they changed it. But he did something similar with Lord

1542
01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:00.960
of the Rings. Gollum looked b
a different. I did not know that.

1543
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:02.199
What did he look like? Well
got him and Fellowship of the Ring.

1544
01:50:02.239 --> 01:50:04.960
They never do a close up on
him. It was like yeah,

1545
01:50:05.039 --> 01:50:08.760
or like his face is just shaped
different. If you look at the Fellowship

1546
01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:12.039
of the Ring, the few glimpses
you get, he looks very okay okay,

1547
01:50:12.520 --> 01:50:14.359
And they were gonna go with that
design, but I guess when they

1548
01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:17.039
were doing the second one they just
changed more expression for Andy Serkis to act

1549
01:50:17.079 --> 01:50:20.279
and probably probably probably, but I
like the design they went through. He's

1550
01:50:20.319 --> 01:50:25.199
like basically just a giant Silverback Gorilla, which is the only time that they've

1551
01:50:25.279 --> 01:50:29.239
really embraced the movement, and like, yeah, you know, really tried

1552
01:50:29.279 --> 01:50:30.720
to make it a gorilla. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw it

1553
01:50:30.720 --> 01:50:33.239
in theaters, and I have something
to say about that. When we get

1554
01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:36.199
to the end of the movie.
I loved it. I really There were

1555
01:50:36.199 --> 01:50:40.680
people complaining. Yeah, they're like, this movie's too fucking long, just

1556
01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:44.000
like War of the Worlds. I'm
bored. I'm like, dude, I

1557
01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:46.239
feel like War of the World's was
long. They hated it too, though.

1558
01:50:46.399 --> 01:50:50.520
Yeah, back then and even today
maybe, although today we don't have

1559
01:50:50.560 --> 01:50:55.079
as good as movies as shit like
this anymore, people would complain about shit

1560
01:50:55.199 --> 01:50:58.640
for like, yeah, it was
the dumbest of reasons. Yeah, like

1561
01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:01.319
War of the World was one,
King Kong was probably one of the bigger

1562
01:51:01.359 --> 01:51:03.279
ones. One of the World does
have a big issue at the end.

1563
01:51:03.319 --> 01:51:06.640
But yeah, but that one issue
at the end does not mean the whole

1564
01:51:06.680 --> 01:51:09.920
movie is bad. There's little things, but for the most part, I

1565
01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:12.479
like that. I don't think it's
a I'm not saying these are flawless.

1566
01:51:12.479 --> 01:51:15.119
I'm just saying, like, you
know, the majority of which people I

1567
01:51:15.159 --> 01:51:19.039
don't remember people jumping for joy over
King Kong, and I liked it a

1568
01:51:19.039 --> 01:51:23.680
lot, but I remember people being
like the over long kind of like you

1569
01:51:23.680 --> 01:51:27.159
know how people complain about Titanics three
hours of watching a boat sink. Yeah,

1570
01:51:27.399 --> 01:51:29.960
like, well it's not three hours
of watching a boat saying, but

1571
01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:32.000
you know what I mean? Right, Like they would quite similar if you

1572
01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:34.520
want to know more about Titanic.
We have a review for Titanic on this

1573
01:51:34.600 --> 01:51:38.880
channel. I like how it shows
you the animals first and then zoo.

1574
01:51:38.960 --> 01:51:41.199
Yeah, are we in the jungle? And then you find out it's just

1575
01:51:41.199 --> 01:51:44.359
the zoo. But yeah, we
see it's the Great Depression. We see

1576
01:51:44.399 --> 01:51:46.560
what's going on. There's like prohibition
and whatnot. It hard to work,

1577
01:51:46.920 --> 01:51:49.520
Yeah, people are like starving,
whatnot. It's setting up New York.

1578
01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:53.680
New York looks beautiful, yeah,
very A lot of it is big sets

1579
01:51:53.720 --> 01:51:58.359
with miniatures and originals. They had
to like make New York nineteen thirties New

1580
01:51:58.439 --> 01:52:00.680
York in the computer. It took
long younger for them to make their digital

1581
01:52:00.720 --> 01:52:04.159
model the Empire State Building than it
did to make the Empire State Building.

1582
01:52:04.279 --> 01:52:06.359
Oh really that was like a thing. I read. It took them like

1583
01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:10.760
eighteen months and the Empire State Bold. It took like thirteen months insane,

1584
01:52:11.359 --> 01:52:14.760
wow, because they had to digitally
make the building and then make it look

1585
01:52:14.840 --> 01:52:17.800
like the thirties okay, oh okay, yeah that would probably be a painting.

1586
01:52:17.880 --> 01:52:20.439
Yeah. So, like it's a
really great setting up this whole timey

1587
01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:24.159
song. We're seeing like the weird
entertainment they used to watch back then,

1588
01:52:24.800 --> 01:52:28.359
a lot of like plays, yeah, play circus, dancing, mile stuff.

1589
01:52:28.439 --> 01:52:30.600
Yeah, before you had YouTube,
you had to go somewhere and watch

1590
01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:33.359
people do weird shit. Yeah,
I just watch it. But yeah,

1591
01:52:33.359 --> 01:52:39.319
we get introduced to Anne, who's
an actress. She's very into the writer

1592
01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:43.600
Jack Driscool. Yeah, her playhouse
is under hard times. We thought this

1593
01:52:43.640 --> 01:52:45.439
part was kind of mean, where
she's like, hey, old guy,

1594
01:52:45.520 --> 01:52:49.000
you're the only family I have,
and she's like, have you eaten today?

1595
01:52:49.079 --> 01:52:51.479
To show like people are like starving, And obviously it's like no,

1596
01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:55.720
because you know, I want to
make sure that I don't like waste all

1597
01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:57.680
my money. Yeah, and then
she's like, come on, take me

1598
01:52:57.760 --> 01:53:00.760
to dinner, and it's like,
you bitch, he just said, like

1599
01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:03.239
you know why he's not eating.
We're talking about like ninety years ago.

1600
01:53:03.520 --> 01:53:06.439
Yeah, I mean, like I
I definitely. Maybe they went to the

1601
01:53:06.479 --> 01:53:13.319
soup kitchen. It's no use the
show, it's over, it's done.

1602
01:53:13.640 --> 01:53:15.840
Yeah, everybody's fired. And then
the guy's going back to Chicago. He's

1603
01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:19.600
like, I'm going back to Chicago, goodbye. Yeah uh, and it's

1604
01:53:19.640 --> 01:53:23.439
all sad. It's like, Okay, we're moving along. We've now been

1605
01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:27.079
introduced to her main character, and
we get the driving motivation of like the

1606
01:53:27.079 --> 01:53:30.479
struggle that she's going with and what
she needs to do. Yes, and

1607
01:53:30.520 --> 01:53:32.119
then she meets another guy and then
she's like, hey, I want to

1608
01:53:32.199 --> 01:53:35.640
audition for the Driscoll part, the
Driscoll play. And he's like, we

1609
01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:39.039
already gave it to someone else,
lady. Yeah, he's the only one

1610
01:53:39.079 --> 01:53:43.840
who's talking old timy. Yeah.
Everybody else there's only like only Jack Black

1611
01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:46.159
kind of talks old time. This
guy's all old time. Yeah. Yeah.

1612
01:53:46.439 --> 01:53:49.039
By the way, the one thing
I like about this guy is so

1613
01:53:49.119 --> 01:53:53.319
every on the movie is just like
me, what no me? It's a

1614
01:53:53.319 --> 01:53:56.159
gorgeous one. Yeah, but they're
like, oh, Ann you're so beautiful.

1615
01:53:56.239 --> 01:54:00.399
You're beautiful, and you're beautiful.
Even Kong is signing beauty full.

1616
01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:02.239
And this is the only guy in
the movie that goes they're not bad looking.

1617
01:54:02.359 --> 01:54:06.600
Oh yeah, I'm like, what
a fucking chad. That guy's nagging

1618
01:54:06.640 --> 01:54:11.199
her heart. That is funny.
And then he gives her the instructions to

1619
01:54:11.199 --> 01:54:15.079
go. He's like, hey,
go here, show your tits and get

1620
01:54:15.079 --> 01:54:19.880
out of town. I do like
that. They they set up her character

1621
01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:26.800
really well. She's not just like
a random woman. She is actually someone

1622
01:54:26.840 --> 01:54:30.479
that's fallen on hard times. They
sell the reason she goes to the island.

1623
01:54:30.920 --> 01:54:35.600
Yeah, and I like the reference
to the original movie that we'll get

1624
01:54:35.640 --> 01:54:40.560
to later on that uh shows how
they changed some stuff up. But yeah,

1625
01:54:40.720 --> 01:54:43.119
yeah, well I forgot the old
guy is giving us a lot of

1626
01:54:43.159 --> 01:54:45.720
exposition about Anne. Yeah, very
quick. Yeah, because I guess they

1627
01:54:45.720 --> 01:54:48.560
were like, oh wait, we
made her a loner and he's like everyone

1628
01:54:48.600 --> 01:54:53.319
always gives up on you, and
you're always so sad. Honest with you

1629
01:54:53.439 --> 01:54:56.399
is pretty decent expositions, I guess. So it feels a little weird.

1630
01:54:56.840 --> 01:55:01.479
Yeah, but for a character that's
just there to like, we meet Carl

1631
01:55:01.560 --> 01:55:05.600
Denham, yes, who is showing
the studio stock footage of animals. Yeah,

1632
01:55:05.640 --> 01:55:09.079
well, well there he's supposed to
be showing that. He's supposed to

1633
01:55:09.079 --> 01:55:12.600
be showing the movie for Yeah,
they're like, where's our movie. It's

1634
01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:14.359
like, well, you know our
actress. We pushed it back to the

1635
01:55:14.399 --> 01:55:16.760
other teeth picks and we're gonna go
to an island. And it's like,

1636
01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:19.960
I'm sorry island. It's like,
yes, we're gonna go to an island.

1637
01:55:20.479 --> 01:55:24.159
It's been re written. I found
us, fucking Matt, I have

1638
01:55:24.399 --> 01:55:27.880
I have had the opposite of this. Oh really Okay, Well, we

1639
01:55:27.920 --> 01:55:33.199
did the AVGN Trustpasser when I was
a trespasser sorry trust passer trespasser. When

1640
01:55:33.239 --> 01:55:36.600
I was working on that and I
was coming up with ideas for it,

1641
01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:40.640
I remember like with Ryan and Justin
up there and I'm like, yeah,

1642
01:55:40.640 --> 01:55:43.119
we're gonna make it look like the
nergoso An Island. We'll just film it

1643
01:55:43.159 --> 01:55:44.880
in the park, and some of
it we did film in the park.

1644
01:55:45.039 --> 01:55:46.600
And then like this is the so
in this movie, like, you're not

1645
01:55:46.680 --> 01:55:49.439
going to an island, You're ridiculous, okay. And when I'm when I'm

1646
01:55:49.439 --> 01:55:53.319
pitching that to them, Ryan's like, I know an island in the Delaware

1647
01:55:53.359 --> 01:55:56.560
we can go to. And I'm
like, we're going to an island now,

1648
01:55:56.680 --> 01:56:00.680
so so okay. On the reverse, Carl Den I'm like, I'm

1649
01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:01.840
like, I was gonna do the
super cheap for now on an island.

1650
01:56:01.880 --> 01:56:04.880
Okay, okay, all right.
Carl like gets kicked out and they're like,

1651
01:56:04.920 --> 01:56:06.439
what the fuck am I gonna do? And I'm like, we'll just

1652
01:56:06.479 --> 01:56:10.680
sell his foot. And I've always
remembered his like getting rid of the h

1653
01:56:10.760 --> 01:56:15.279
whatever whiskey and listening yes. And
his assistant is Colin Hanks, Tom Hanks's

1654
01:56:15.319 --> 01:56:20.279
son, My second favorite. Tom
hanks son, My first favorite is Chet

1655
01:56:20.319 --> 01:56:27.279
Hanks, the creator of White Boy
Summer. Yeah, white rude Boy,

1656
01:56:27.319 --> 01:56:30.800
it's a boy Now. A lot
of people were upset about White Boy Summer,

1657
01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:34.439
but they always forget that. In
the same video or a follow up

1658
01:56:34.479 --> 01:56:39.000
video, he also announced that was
also Black Queen Summer. Oh, and

1659
01:56:39.039 --> 01:56:43.319
people always forget that part because Chet
Hanks loves everyone. I would have loved

1660
01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:45.039
Chet Hanks in this movie. I
think he would have done very well.

1661
01:56:45.239 --> 01:56:48.079
Fun for sure. He's like,
yeah, you lied to the actress,

1662
01:56:48.159 --> 01:56:50.760
right, and he's like, no, but we're not going to Singapore.

1663
01:56:50.880 --> 01:56:56.600
It's a lie to her. And
Carl turnams just a total asshole do anything

1664
01:56:56.600 --> 01:56:59.399
to get his movie done. I
like that I didn't realize before he like

1665
01:56:59.479 --> 01:57:01.760
leaves with all. He stole their
footage. They paid the money to have

1666
01:57:01.800 --> 01:57:04.680
it, and I didn't realize that
either he's got like all the reels and

1667
01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:10.119
he's just like gone. But yeah, as they leave and get away from

1668
01:57:10.159 --> 01:57:12.840
the thing, which I feel like
a lot of this could have maybe even

1669
01:57:12.880 --> 01:57:15.760
trimmed down where it could have just
been like the original where it's like I'm

1670
01:57:15.760 --> 01:57:18.079
going to an island, I'm a
rich guy or something. Maybe one thing

1671
01:57:18.119 --> 01:57:24.119
that we did talk about here this
cut of the movie, the longer cut

1672
01:57:24.119 --> 01:57:27.439
of the movie. Yeah, and
I mentioned to you before we really gotten

1673
01:57:27.439 --> 01:57:30.159
into I said, this movie doesn't
really have an antagonist. Carl Denham.

1674
01:57:30.840 --> 01:57:35.119
In the extent of he is kind
of the antagon Villa. In the extended

1675
01:57:35.159 --> 01:57:40.920
cut, he is more of an
antagony, more of a pretty terrible guy.

1676
01:57:41.199 --> 01:57:44.199
Yes, and I think one thing
that I could definitely see if this

1677
01:57:44.239 --> 01:57:46.520
film had come out in the completed
cut, the fact that he doesn't get

1678
01:57:46.560 --> 01:57:50.119
any come up. And yeah,
I think that might have been why they

1679
01:57:50.119 --> 01:57:54.800
trimmed a lot of that out,
because you know, you talk about greed

1680
01:57:54.960 --> 01:57:58.920
and shit. We'll go on to
later. This guy the theatrical cut,

1681
01:57:58.960 --> 01:58:02.279
and like even the scene is that
he's just overly ambitious, well a thief.

1682
01:58:02.560 --> 01:58:06.560
Yes, Senecut really and we'll get
into the Senecut really shows that he

1683
01:58:06.600 --> 01:58:10.399
is a bad guy. It's just
insane. But yeah, I do like

1684
01:58:10.439 --> 01:58:14.960
the little reference for the fans it, yeah, fantasize for yes she is,

1685
01:58:15.079 --> 01:58:18.000
but she is doing a picture with
our Chao. Cooper might have known.

1686
01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:21.000
That's great and that's fun for fans. But I can see people in

1687
01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:26.319
the audience going who yeah. But
I also think it helps this movie like

1688
01:58:26.399 --> 01:58:30.840
have an excuse to like flesh out
how they got to the island. It's

1689
01:58:30.840 --> 01:58:33.920
is really just they need this to
build these characters up. Yes, the

1690
01:58:33.960 --> 01:58:36.880
only character is not really being built
up yet is Jack, who we don't

1691
01:58:36.880 --> 01:58:42.039
need to. He goes to the
strip club to get a girl who will

1692
01:58:42.039 --> 01:58:46.039
fit into whatever's outfits, and then
he sees Ann and he follows her and

1693
01:58:46.079 --> 01:58:48.760
she's like trying to seal food and
he like gets her out of trouble.

1694
01:58:49.600 --> 01:58:51.960
Then he takes her to dinner where
she's like stuff in her face because she's

1695
01:58:53.000 --> 01:58:56.560
super starving. Because it's the Great
depression, he basically is just like,

1696
01:58:57.560 --> 01:59:00.720
you're you're so sad looking and whatnot. You got in this movie. She's

1697
01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:02.079
like, I'm a Comedian's like,
no, you're not, you're pathetic.

1698
01:59:02.399 --> 01:59:06.720
Yeah, but yeah, he convinces
her to be in the movie because he

1699
01:59:06.720 --> 01:59:11.520
says, Jack Driscoll is writing it. Yeah, she's a big fan of.

1700
01:59:12.079 --> 01:59:14.319
Yes, she's a big fan of. She's like, I'm sorry,

1701
01:59:14.359 --> 01:59:18.479
did you say Jack Drisko. We
meet Engelman played by Thomas Kretchman, fresh

1702
01:59:18.520 --> 01:59:23.760
off of Resident Evil Apocalypse? You
mean Captain Englehorn. Captain Englehorn, who

1703
01:59:23.800 --> 01:59:28.359
was very different from the Captain engle
Horn in the original. Yeah, because

1704
01:59:28.359 --> 01:59:30.199
that's the thing. Jack Driscoll is
like the first mate in the original,

1705
01:59:30.199 --> 01:59:33.399
and they change him to a playwriter. And then angle Horn is kind of

1706
01:59:33.399 --> 01:59:38.319
a mixture of the original Jack and
the original also got to throw in there

1707
01:59:38.359 --> 01:59:42.479
the Bruce Baxter like here, yes, yes, he's coming up. And

1708
01:59:42.520 --> 01:59:45.520
angle Horn is upset that they're not
paid and he's like, you'll accept a

1709
01:59:45.600 --> 01:59:47.239
check right when I get my first
thousand dollars And he's like, do I

1710
01:59:47.439 --> 01:59:50.800
have a choice? You know.
Thomas Kretschman, he's been in a lot

1711
01:59:50.840 --> 01:59:57.119
of things lately. He was wasted
as what's his face in the Avenger movies.

1712
01:59:57.960 --> 02:00:00.520
He shows up as like a high
ranking Hydrick an age of Ultron,

1713
02:00:00.520 --> 02:00:03.439
and then he gets killed off camera
and it's like, huh, that guy's

1714
02:00:03.479 --> 02:00:06.640
like a big character in the comics
and he was relegated to one scene.

1715
02:00:08.399 --> 02:00:13.359
That good for him. We meet
Jack Driscoll, who's Adrian Brody is when

1716
02:00:13.399 --> 02:00:16.600
Adrian Brody was big, he like
got an Oscar a few years coming up

1717
02:00:17.119 --> 02:00:20.159
for the piano, which we actually
might have. Uh no, not the

1718
02:00:20.199 --> 02:00:25.840
piano, the pianist. The piano
is different the piano. The piano is

1719
02:00:25.960 --> 02:00:30.439
Ada Paquin who won an Oscar.
Okay, yeah, two movies. So

1720
02:00:30.520 --> 02:00:33.880
that's the trick. Just make a
movie about a piano and it works.

1721
02:00:34.520 --> 02:00:40.039
It'll work. But yeah, he's
only written a few pages for the script

1722
02:00:40.840 --> 02:00:42.920
and he's like, what the fuck
we're writing in a movie here. He's

1723
02:00:42.960 --> 02:00:45.279
like sorry him, pay me,
fuck you. And I like this whole

1724
02:00:45.319 --> 02:00:49.000
thing where like Jack Black is just
like stalling, oh yeah, where he's

1725
02:00:49.000 --> 02:00:51.119
trying to write the check. He's
like, let me write you a check.

1726
02:00:51.159 --> 02:00:55.319
He's like, he's like, you
wrote two grand, like the word

1727
02:00:55.359 --> 02:00:58.159
too great. He's like, ah, he's ripping it up because he sees

1728
02:00:58.199 --> 02:01:02.439
the boat is taking off asle he's
like waiting to jump and to get back,

1729
02:01:03.079 --> 02:01:05.720
and he's just like, see,
the theater's not for you. You

1730
02:01:05.880 --> 02:01:09.520
belong to movies. Is like,
I love the theater and I love when

1731
02:01:10.039 --> 02:01:12.840
I love that because like again,
I kind of relate to Carl. He's

1732
02:01:12.920 --> 02:01:15.199
like, nah, if you loved
it, you would have jumped, dude.

1733
02:01:15.640 --> 02:01:17.640
They make so many jokes about this
guy early on, and I never

1734
02:01:17.720 --> 02:01:23.079
viewed him as eel until I watched
this kind of the movie. I kind

1735
02:01:23.119 --> 02:01:25.359
of agree that though, like I
love I've done a lot of shit from

1736
02:01:25.399 --> 02:01:27.640
movies, like, yeah, have
you loved it? You would? I

1737
02:01:27.680 --> 02:01:31.159
get it. It's funny, but
like when we get to the island,

1738
02:01:31.520 --> 02:01:35.800
this guy, but you're right,
we do see Bruce Baxter by Kyle Chandler

1739
02:01:36.359 --> 02:01:41.319
in his first King con continuity.
Yeah, yeah, they're showing jack his

1740
02:01:41.479 --> 02:01:46.159
quarters. We get a cameo from
the Sumatran rat Monkey, which is a

1741
02:01:46.199 --> 02:01:50.079
reference to Evil Dead, which takes
place on Skull Island. They also have

1742
02:01:50.279 --> 02:01:55.319
Evil Dead you mean, oh no
dead alive, dead alive, brain dead

1743
02:01:55.840 --> 02:01:59.920
dead dead alive. So you also
get the chloroform reveal here, yes,

1744
02:02:00.359 --> 02:02:02.199
and they tell Jackie got to hang
out in one of these cages, like,

1745
02:02:02.479 --> 02:02:05.920
because that's the thing these people they
kind of like they catch animals.

1746
02:02:08.079 --> 02:02:11.239
Yeah, man, they're worried about
King Kong. They don't know how bad

1747
02:02:11.239 --> 02:02:15.920
that rat monkey is not called zombies. We never see that mentionumtra again.

1748
02:02:16.039 --> 02:02:18.640
Later on in the movie. They
while they're on the boat, I believe

1749
02:02:18.720 --> 02:02:23.039
they do. They're like, looks
like it's out past Sumatra or something.

1750
02:02:23.199 --> 02:02:28.119
Oh wow, I didn't catch that
this time. Uh So here's a thing

1751
02:02:28.239 --> 02:02:30.880
where things are a little too excessive
and he's trying to do too much.

1752
02:02:31.760 --> 02:02:38.600
The introduction to the Jimmy subplot.
Yeah, with Jamie Bell, I'm finally

1753
02:02:38.800 --> 02:02:42.960
I'm fine with both Jimmy and Captain
Hayes. But I think the way they

1754
02:02:43.560 --> 02:02:48.479
resolve where this is not actually a
resolution like fizzles out, it mounts to

1755
02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:51.760
nothing actually a little bit morbid.
Yeah. And then again like this is

1756
02:02:51.800 --> 02:02:56.560
a character who just disappears in the
third act. Yeah, he's the Nick

1757
02:02:56.640 --> 02:03:00.560
van Owen, Yeah of King k
Yeah, he just kind of go away.

1758
02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:03.960
So they're spending like so much time
with Jimmy, and like we get

1759
02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:11.119
introduced like the first mate Hayes like
found him in the shipping and we get

1760
02:03:11.159 --> 02:03:14.680
like a mystery of where did he
come from stowaway and he's also trying to

1761
02:03:14.720 --> 02:03:16.640
be like a father figure to teach
him to like, remember he stole the

1762
02:03:16.640 --> 02:03:19.039
fucking book from the library. Yeah, that comes up, but it's just

1763
02:03:19.079 --> 02:03:23.840
like I don't care, and it
just drags the movie. Yeah, I

1764
02:03:23.880 --> 02:03:28.640
was sweet and fine, but it
if it had gone somewhere, it would

1765
02:03:28.640 --> 02:03:31.560
be a little more. I think
it was just Peter Jackson wanted Jamie Bell

1766
02:03:31.640 --> 02:03:34.000
to be in it because he was
big on Billy Elliott. He was a

1767
02:03:34.079 --> 02:03:38.720
nice young rising sure, and he's
just like, I'm gonna write a character

1768
02:03:38.840 --> 02:03:43.199
Jimmy for you, and he's gonna
slow the fucking movie. He liked the

1769
02:03:43.319 --> 02:03:45.520
Jimmy guy. I think Captain Hayes
was pretty cool, but like, yeah,

1770
02:03:45.560 --> 02:03:49.760
but he's stuck with the Jimmy subplot. So I just really don't like.

1771
02:03:50.479 --> 02:03:54.520
I'm just like, you could have
cut this out easily. Sure,

1772
02:03:54.680 --> 02:03:57.159
you could have just never written in
the first place. I kind of prefer

1773
02:03:57.279 --> 02:04:01.560
lumpy and joy umpy and joy great. I actually really like. I even

1774
02:04:01.600 --> 02:04:03.880
said this when we were watching the
movie. I think this is Andy serkiss

1775
02:04:03.920 --> 02:04:10.560
best like actual performance that's not motion
capture. And I said, you've got

1776
02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:15.520
Alfred. Yes, better than Alfred
in the Batman. Better than Claw.

1777
02:04:15.199 --> 02:04:20.199
Yeah I didn't even remember that.
Oh oh yeah yeah yeah it's better,

1778
02:04:20.199 --> 02:04:23.560
way better than that. Okay,
yeah, you know what. I'm team

1779
02:04:23.640 --> 02:04:27.119
Lumpy, who's on the cover.
Lumpy's a badass the way he goes out,

1780
02:04:27.399 --> 02:04:30.640
if you have to think Andy Andy
Serkis plays two characters. He plays

1781
02:04:30.720 --> 02:04:33.079
Kong, yeah, which a lot
of people don't know about that. Yeah,

1782
02:04:33.239 --> 02:04:35.439
and he plays uh, what do
you call it, lum Bumpy.

1783
02:04:35.640 --> 02:04:39.520
Yeah. This is his first ape, and he would go on to play

1784
02:04:39.520 --> 02:04:42.479
other apes. Yeah. Yeah.
So we see the sound guy and he's

1785
02:04:42.520 --> 02:04:45.399
talking about how sound equipped, you've
captured the voice of the common fee.

1786
02:04:45.720 --> 02:04:47.880
Yeah. It's actually a really funny
scene. So she's meeting the crew and

1787
02:04:47.920 --> 02:04:51.760
she assumes the sound guys Jack drist
and she's like, you're amazing. I

1788
02:04:51.800 --> 02:04:55.119
love your work, and the guy's
like really when yeah, I love She

1789
02:04:55.199 --> 02:04:58.720
goes, you've captured the voice of
the common people, and he thinks it's

1790
02:04:58.720 --> 02:05:01.840
a sound recording and then she starts
talking about like the writing, not realizing

1791
02:05:01.840 --> 02:05:04.399
the real Jacks behind her, right, yeah, but I'm like this is

1792
02:05:04.439 --> 02:05:09.119
funny, and then she goes,
you look nothing like your picture. You

1793
02:05:09.199 --> 02:05:11.840
know, it's like, how'd you
how'd you get them? Because they look

1794
02:05:11.960 --> 02:05:15.960
nothing alike theses. Maybe she's like
I don't know, dude. And by

1795
02:05:15.960 --> 02:05:17.439
the way, she says that guy's
like way better looking, which is a

1796
02:05:17.439 --> 02:05:19.479
little insane, and I'm like,
oh, well then, but then she's

1797
02:05:19.479 --> 02:05:26.000
into Jack afterwards. I do feel
like the extended cut of the movie severely

1798
02:05:26.119 --> 02:05:30.720
dampens the relationship between Anne and Jack
because so much shit happens in between them

1799
02:05:30.720 --> 02:05:32.720
actually interacting with each other. Yes, yeah, it makes them a little

1800
02:05:32.720 --> 02:05:36.039
harder to buy into, and we're
getting to the extended scenes that a lot

1801
02:05:36.079 --> 02:05:40.800
of that is on the island.
But yeah, like I think that might

1802
02:05:40.800 --> 02:05:44.119
be another thing. People weren't really
sold on the romance between them. Well,

1803
02:05:44.199 --> 02:05:45.439
the Jack's just like, this is
the only person that gives a shit

1804
02:05:45.479 --> 02:05:50.359
about my work. Yeah, so
I've got to say Anne, Yeah,

1805
02:05:50.359 --> 02:05:55.039
I never really got into the relationship, Like I I know she needs to

1806
02:05:55.039 --> 02:05:58.680
fall in love with the human.
I guess I bought it more in the

1807
02:05:58.680 --> 02:06:01.520
theatrical cut. And then we've talked
about how it can cut scenes out to

1808
02:06:01.560 --> 02:06:04.520
me and I get like the original
you just need the damsel to full love

1809
02:06:04.520 --> 02:06:10.439
of the Store. And I believe
the romance in the seventies because I need

1810
02:06:10.479 --> 02:06:14.479
to rewatch that, because I mean
Jeff Bridges and uh, you mentioned that's

1811
02:06:14.640 --> 02:06:17.560
Lang, Jessica Lang. They were
both ridiculously good looking, so of course

1812
02:06:17.560 --> 02:06:21.560
they would be into each other.
In that movie is bearded Jeff Bridges looking

1813
02:06:21.680 --> 02:06:26.359
up while the helicopters are shooting.
Maybe that's because that's also the beginning of

1814
02:06:26.439 --> 02:06:29.840
King Kong Lives. Yes, remember
him shirtless? He was in good shape

1815
02:06:29.840 --> 02:06:32.199
back then. And Jessica Lang,
Jesus Christ, watch our episode on that.

1816
02:06:32.279 --> 02:06:36.039
I remember stay hungry more than I
do. This scene could have been

1817
02:06:36.079 --> 02:06:40.439
cut. We have a Jimmy drawling
on Baxter's posters. Yeah, why is

1818
02:06:40.479 --> 02:06:42.880
that? And well, I guess
it's there to show that Bruce Baxter's a

1819
02:06:42.960 --> 02:06:45.680
narcissist and Jimmy's a little shit.
Yeah, but we kind of get that

1820
02:06:45.760 --> 02:06:47.279
because he's an actor. We don't
need it. He's already like, hey,

1821
02:06:47.319 --> 02:06:49.800
mister, help me get my bag. I would have accepted it because

1822
02:06:49.800 --> 02:06:53.520
there is a shot where he draws
a mustache on him and Baxter's mad,

1823
02:06:53.560 --> 02:06:55.840
but then he likes the mustache.
Really should have done at the end when

1824
02:06:55.880 --> 02:06:58.800
they Yes, it would have been
funny if when we need him at the

1825
02:06:58.880 --> 02:07:00.359
end, he's got the big mustard. Months later he got a muscat.

1826
02:07:00.399 --> 02:07:03.119
But then they don't do it.
So I'm like, you could just cut

1827
02:07:03.119 --> 02:07:05.319
this out. It would have been
perfect, because I think he's even wearing

1828
02:07:05.399 --> 02:07:10.199
that Safari style outfit in that poster
where they yeah and he's that's like what

1829
02:07:10.279 --> 02:07:13.880
he's got on stage. I thought
the poster it just says Dame tamer Dam,

1830
02:07:14.159 --> 02:07:15.199
like I want to watch Dame Tamers. What was the other one,

1831
02:07:15.359 --> 02:07:21.319
tribal something, I forget raiders or
something. Yeah, we're filming on an

1832
02:07:21.359 --> 02:07:27.279
island. Now, when did this
happen? Jack Black is telling him about

1833
02:07:27.319 --> 02:07:29.479
the island. Yeah, they all
kind of gang up on. I'm like,

1834
02:07:29.520 --> 02:07:30.960
where the fuck are we going,
buddy. Well before that, he's

1835
02:07:31.039 --> 02:07:33.880
just like, let me tell you
the name, and then oh the skull

1836
02:07:33.920 --> 02:07:39.039
island with the typing. Yeah,
you don't like the slow mo Peter Jackson's

1837
02:07:39.199 --> 02:07:44.399
choppy slow mo. I hate the
choppy sloan. You said he'd uses it

1838
02:07:44.800 --> 02:07:46.319
so much here. You said he'd
use it in Lord of the Rings and

1839
02:07:46.359 --> 02:07:49.039
I didn't remember, but he does
use it in the minds of Maria.

1840
02:07:49.239 --> 02:07:53.640
Yeah, other places for when the
goblin orcs like start coming out, but

1841
02:07:53.720 --> 02:07:55.920
here he was like, this whole
scene is choppy, slow mo. And

1842
02:07:55.920 --> 02:07:58.319
again, this scene could have been
sped up a little bit. I use

1843
02:07:58.359 --> 02:08:03.359
it a lot. When the natives
come to it's interesting that they maybe maybe

1844
02:08:03.359 --> 02:08:07.479
he just wanted this movie. It
really feels like they're patty and I'm like,

1845
02:08:07.720 --> 02:08:11.279
yeah, just didn't need to be. Yes, it's interesting. The

1846
02:08:11.359 --> 02:08:15.039
crew gets really mad at Carl for
wanting to go to Skull Island, and

1847
02:08:15.159 --> 02:08:16.760
Lumpy tells them the whole story.
He's like, yeah, we met a

1848
02:08:16.800 --> 02:08:20.640
guy he was adrift. It's pretty
cool. Yeah. And he's like,

1849
02:08:20.680 --> 02:08:26.720
you talked about this island that had
a giant wall and it was really scary.

1850
02:08:28.159 --> 02:08:31.199
Yeah. Again, this scene could
have been reworked a little different.

1851
02:08:31.199 --> 02:08:33.159
I don't know if we needed those
like they need to know that they're maybe

1852
02:08:33.159 --> 02:08:37.039
they don't need to know they're going
to Skull Yeah, you don't really need

1853
02:08:37.079 --> 02:08:39.119
them to know they're going there.
It could have just been a coincidence.

1854
02:08:39.119 --> 02:08:43.520
I don't think we have to set
up a legend of Skull Island chacking in

1855
02:08:43.760 --> 02:08:46.600
they make out they do, which
I forgot about being in this movie.

1856
02:08:46.720 --> 02:08:50.920
Yes, and while they're making out, we get more bad slow motion of

1857
02:08:50.960 --> 02:08:56.880
them getting a telegram that Quarrel was
wanted by the authority. Good luck getting

1858
02:08:56.920 --> 02:09:01.920
them now, just the bad slow
ocean like stop it. Yeah, I'd

1859
02:09:01.920 --> 02:09:03.640
forgotten that he'd used it that much. I like when he drops the map

1860
02:09:03.640 --> 02:09:07.479
into the water. It's a pretty
cool shot. Yeah. I like the

1861
02:09:07.520 --> 02:09:09.199
mystery around all that stuff. Yeah, we never find out where he gets

1862
02:09:09.239 --> 02:09:13.079
the map. Same in the original
this, I think Suna Kang we find

1863
02:09:13.079 --> 02:09:16.600
the guy who gave Carl the map. Yeah. I don't think Son of

1864
02:09:16.680 --> 02:09:18.840
Kong would be that out of the
realm of possibility of doing a sequel to

1865
02:09:18.880 --> 02:09:22.479
this movie, because you could add
a lot of shit in that. But

1866
02:09:22.039 --> 02:09:26.800
this is another scene. So like
this is when Peter Jackson in his career,

1867
02:09:26.840 --> 02:09:31.239
it's like every action scene has to
be this like amazing complicated. They

1868
02:09:31.279 --> 02:09:37.760
go a really long time doing this
whole we're approaching Skull Islands. Yeah,

1869
02:09:37.800 --> 02:09:41.439
they're going into the fog. They're
doing like the twenty knots or what.

1870
02:09:41.479 --> 02:09:43.399
I think they could have just crashed
into the thing. Yeah. Yeah.

1871
02:09:43.439 --> 02:09:48.039
So then there is some like the
ship gets blown around, but it goes

1872
02:09:48.079 --> 02:09:50.800
on for a while, and you're
right, the green screen here looks a

1873
02:09:50.800 --> 02:09:54.560
little weird. It's because some of
the lighting looks like they're really well lit,

1874
02:09:54.680 --> 02:09:58.920
but it's at night in a storm
with like yeah, and I guess

1875
02:09:58.960 --> 02:10:01.920
he like colored differently so they stand
out from the background instead of being all

1876
02:10:01.960 --> 02:10:05.560
blue. Yeah, and then it
just looks unnatural. It doesn't. It

1877
02:10:05.600 --> 02:10:09.199
looks I didn't realize how I forgot
that this movie came out in two thousand

1878
02:10:09.239 --> 02:10:13.760
and five. I thought it was
much's it's a while ago, so like,

1879
02:10:13.840 --> 02:10:18.239
I get why it doesn't. That
doesn't hold up as quite as well

1880
02:10:18.239 --> 02:10:20.479
as it. Yeah, but I'm
thinking of like other movies that we did,

1881
02:10:20.560 --> 02:10:26.399
like like no, I'm thinking of
like Mary Shelley's Frankenstein opens up with

1882
02:10:26.439 --> 02:10:30.399
like a ship crashing, and that
one's done pretty quick. Oh yeah,

1883
02:10:30.520 --> 02:10:33.760
yeah, well, I mean they
do this really long. Yeah, it

1884
02:10:33.800 --> 02:10:37.680
goes on and Hayes is doing the
fucking thing. Yeah, Jimmy's up top

1885
02:10:37.720 --> 02:10:43.760
going throwing around and it smashes up. Yeah, it was a little excessive.

1886
02:10:43.880 --> 02:10:46.159
Yeah, it's excessive. Is the
worst. I haven't even gotten on

1887
02:10:46.319 --> 02:10:50.279
to the eye still our first like
big action scene. I guess probably like

1888
02:10:50.399 --> 02:10:54.279
forty minutes into the movie. Yeah, it's like we're not We're not even

1889
02:10:54.359 --> 02:10:56.680
there yet, and like, all
right, all right, all right,

1890
02:10:56.000 --> 02:11:01.840
I ain't come to see the boat
crash. I do. One thing I

1891
02:11:01.880 --> 02:11:05.479
will really like about this is we
get to see the name Skull Island put

1892
02:11:05.520 --> 02:11:09.359
to good use because there's all of
those carved like skulls. Yes. I

1893
02:11:09.399 --> 02:11:11.439
do like the design of like the
rocks all. I had forgotten about that

1894
02:11:11.520 --> 02:11:13.600
until we were watching it. I
was like, oh, that is pretty

1895
02:11:13.600 --> 02:11:18.119
cool. Jimmy's reading Heart of Darkness
and then he has this long ass scene

1896
02:11:18.119 --> 02:11:20.239
of him quoting Heart of Darkness.
Yeah, it's like, just get him

1897
02:11:20.239 --> 02:11:24.000
on the island. Goddamn it.
This movie is so overly, very over

1898
02:11:24.039 --> 02:11:26.560
the top than what you would expect, like just like remake. Yeah,

1899
02:11:26.880 --> 02:11:30.520
well that's the thing. He probably
got a little big head from the Lord

1900
02:11:30.520 --> 02:11:33.119
of the We're taking it very seriously. It's the Lost World Jurassic Park effect,

1901
02:11:33.119 --> 02:11:37.600
where like the first Jurassic Park is
just it's cool, it's but it's

1902
02:11:37.640 --> 02:11:41.880
mainly fun. Yeah, Like Lost
World is like serious big game hunter,

1903
02:11:43.479 --> 02:11:45.720
like you know what I mean,
And this movie feels like more of that.

1904
02:11:46.079 --> 02:11:48.119
Yeah, and now they're throwing in
like heart of Darkness. I want

1905
02:11:48.119 --> 02:11:52.600
to have a heart of darkness speech
over this whole thing that's said. It's

1906
02:11:52.640 --> 02:11:56.520
like, oh my god, yeah, what about the story a little bit

1907
02:11:56.760 --> 02:12:01.479
again? This a lot of this
is tied into the Fuckingmy Hay's story and

1908
02:12:01.520 --> 02:12:05.600
it's like, no one cares about
Jimmy. Get to that. I will

1909
02:12:05.640 --> 02:12:09.840
say, the all versions this is
in the trailer and the video game,

1910
02:12:09.720 --> 02:12:13.319
but all versions cut out her on
the rocks where he goes scream Oh yeah,

1911
02:12:13.359 --> 02:12:22.640
yeah, very life. Yeah,
which makes sense because then it happens

1912
02:12:22.640 --> 02:12:26.439
again, so doing it. This
is the one time where Peter Jackson held

1913
02:12:26.479 --> 02:12:31.840
some restraint and left something out of
the movie. Out of both versions of

1914
02:12:31.880 --> 02:12:35.000
the movie, he left them out. So yeah, they get to the

1915
02:12:35.119 --> 02:12:37.840
village and there's beautiful miniatures on a
blue yeah yeah, yeah, this is

1916
02:12:37.880 --> 02:12:43.520
when he still in them. Did
miniatures just like yeah, yeah, maybe

1917
02:12:43.600 --> 02:12:48.159
one of the last films to use
that extensive amount. No, Nolan uses

1918
02:12:48.199 --> 02:12:50.359
a lot of miniatures in his film. Really. Yeah, there's a lot

1919
02:12:50.399 --> 02:12:54.000
of stuff, but it's just like
Chicago. Yeah no. But I'm saying

1920
02:12:54.000 --> 02:12:58.880
like there's even in those scenes there's
a ton of mint. That's the thing

1921
02:12:58.960 --> 02:13:01.960
he doesn't. He does it so
well. You don't realize their miniatures,

1922
02:13:01.399 --> 02:13:05.359
like even an inception that big like
building and stuff they shoot at the end.

1923
02:13:05.399 --> 02:13:07.479
It's a big miniature, but people
don't realize it. Wow. And

1924
02:13:07.960 --> 02:13:13.000
then sometimes no one will just crash
a giant plane through a building because it's

1925
02:13:13.079 --> 02:13:16.159
cheaper. But that was my favorite
thing with Tenant. They I didn't see

1926
02:13:16.159 --> 02:13:18.359
that movie, but it's not that
good, but Tenant they were gonna build

1927
02:13:18.399 --> 02:13:22.520
like miniatures and stuff with the plane
crashing, and then he realized it was

1928
02:13:22.640 --> 02:13:26.000
just cheaper to buy an old plane
and crash it through it to like a

1929
02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:28.840
demolished building. I wonder what he's
gonna do like next, Oh, he's

1930
02:13:28.880 --> 02:13:33.319
doing an Oppenheimer biopic about the guy
that made it. Okay, yeah,

1931
02:13:33.359 --> 02:13:37.800
that'll be interesting. So the idea
I heard years back, it's like they

1932
02:13:37.840 --> 02:13:43.319
built this wall because the humans there, whatever the civilization was who originally built

1933
02:13:43.319 --> 02:13:45.880
this and all the ruins on the
island, and yeah, like I guess,

1934
02:13:45.920 --> 02:13:48.800
like the wildlife just got too out
of control they had and they weren't

1935
02:13:48.840 --> 02:13:52.319
able to survive on the island.
That makes perfectly fine sense, so I

1936
02:13:52.359 --> 02:13:56.079
guess they built this giant wall.
But the thing is like they built the

1937
02:13:56.079 --> 02:13:58.159
wall, but now they're like so
secluded from like the food. Yea,

1938
02:13:58.239 --> 02:14:01.920
they're on the rocks. You see
that. They just have like fish that

1939
02:14:01.960 --> 02:14:05.479
they're eating because that's the only thing
that they can like eat. But I

1940
02:14:05.479 --> 02:14:09.199
can think the idea is that they
have like regressed because it's just generations of

1941
02:14:09.239 --> 02:14:13.720
people starving, right, which is
an interesting idea. Yeah. I do

1942
02:14:13.840 --> 02:14:18.640
think the entire sequence with the natives
is great, like when you first meet

1943
02:14:18.640 --> 02:14:22.760
them, because it's pretty scary,
and they all have like an odd color

1944
02:14:22.800 --> 02:14:26.920
because they knew they couldn't do they
couldn't do black people. They were afraid

1945
02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:30.800
to make it any actual race.
So all the I didn't know any of

1946
02:14:30.840 --> 02:14:33.159
this, by the way, ye
all the Natives they have this kind of

1947
02:14:33.199 --> 02:14:37.800
like this blackish brown is gray kind
of I never cat caught onto that,

1948
02:14:37.880 --> 02:14:41.279
but I did notice when the kid
is like, well, I completely forgot

1949
02:14:41.319 --> 02:14:43.359
about the candy bar thing. Oh
yeah, he tries to give the kid

1950
02:14:43.359 --> 02:14:46.119
a candy bar. I completely forgot
because I think there are scenes in the

1951
02:14:46.159 --> 02:14:48.960
original King Kong where they do use
black face. There are a lot of

1952
02:14:48.960 --> 02:14:52.199
black people in the original, but
there might have been some well, they

1953
02:14:52.279 --> 02:14:56.399
definitely use it in uh oh kay, Congres's got some they and I mean

1954
02:14:56.399 --> 02:15:00.399
that movie's comedy, but like at
the same time, I yes, they

1955
02:15:00.399 --> 02:15:03.159
were trying to go for if.
These people live on an island and they've

1956
02:15:03.159 --> 02:15:09.000
been cut off from what they were
normally living and they've like something's with them

1957
02:15:09.039 --> 02:15:11.680
that's like a little and they're eating
fish and stuff, and like, well,

1958
02:15:11.079 --> 02:15:15.319
they just wanted to be a completely
different race that we never seen before,

1959
02:15:15.359 --> 02:15:18.479
so they kind of like settle in
this color. Their weaponry and stuff

1960
02:15:18.520 --> 02:15:22.439
has Aztec stuff to it too,
like where they're crushing skulls. Yes,

1961
02:15:22.479 --> 02:15:26.600
I thought the natives were fucking scared
Eody the old witch doctor. Yeah,

1962
02:15:26.640 --> 02:15:31.520
the witch like her mustache and stuff. That girl is hard. Even in

1963
02:15:31.600 --> 02:15:35.359
theaters, I was like, yeah, and this isn't see where she screams

1964
02:15:35.359 --> 02:15:39.840
and we hear Kang for the first
time. The ship's crew rescues them from

1965
02:15:39.880 --> 02:15:43.600
the natives, and where the hell
does the captain shoot the guy? We

1966
02:15:43.680 --> 02:15:46.359
don't know and the guy is falling
in slow motion. Everyone is moving in

1967
02:15:46.439 --> 02:15:48.960
normal very PG thirteen kill. Even
back in the theater, I'm like,

1968
02:15:50.000 --> 02:15:52.800
where did he shoot him? Because
like there's no like it had to be

1969
02:15:52.800 --> 02:15:54.439
in the face, right, And
of course he's falling in band slow or

1970
02:15:54.439 --> 02:15:58.159
no, he gets shot in band
slow motion. It's the yeah, like

1971
02:15:58.199 --> 02:16:01.039
where he goes back. I love
how like every version of can Kong.

1972
02:16:01.960 --> 02:16:05.039
It's just like the Natives see the
blonde girl and they're like, oh my

1973
02:16:05.079 --> 02:16:09.760
god, we don't have to sacrifice
one of her, just grab her,

1974
02:16:09.159 --> 02:16:13.279
just grab hey. We kind of
like our women. We have to sacrifice

1975
02:16:13.279 --> 02:16:15.880
it, but can we just grab
a random one? It's pretty cool?

1976
02:16:15.920 --> 02:16:18.319
How like when they come to rescue
everybody too, It's like, okay,

1977
02:16:20.079 --> 02:16:24.880
go, I do like how the
the Natives like sneak onto the ship.

1978
02:16:24.920 --> 02:16:30.079
Oh, it's pretty cool, but
it's it's different than the seventies where they

1979
02:16:30.239 --> 02:16:33.159
just boat up and like grab her
and then boat all. Remember that version.

1980
02:16:33.559 --> 02:16:37.559
They literally are just like it's a
lady in the crowd. Shit.

1981
02:16:37.360 --> 02:16:41.319
I do like the idea of like
the pull. It actually reminds me of

1982
02:16:41.319 --> 02:16:43.799
tremors. Yes, where they're like
getting across. Yes, but that seems

1983
02:16:43.840 --> 02:16:48.000
cool, like in the waters,
like all tense and whatnot. But yeah,

1984
02:16:48.000 --> 02:16:50.520
it's just it's taking us a while
to get here. One thing that

1985
02:16:50.559 --> 02:16:52.799
we should mention right around here is
the awesome music in this movie, Like

1986
02:16:52.920 --> 02:16:56.680
James and Howard how I'm sure was
going to do the music. Oh was

1987
02:16:56.719 --> 02:17:00.479
that? Who was? Yes?
But I had I think I just had

1988
02:17:00.520 --> 02:17:03.319
a conflicting ideas on it. So
it was like James Newton now or it

1989
02:17:03.360 --> 02:17:07.159
does a great job though the Dune, Yeah, he had to do it

1990
02:17:07.239 --> 02:17:09.479
like real quick and he didn't have
a lot of time to work on it.

1991
02:17:09.520 --> 02:17:13.079
There's a lot of points in this
movie where the music isn't really fitting,

1992
02:17:13.239 --> 02:17:18.799
but it's more impactful because like we'll
talk about the ones. Yeah,

1993
02:17:18.840 --> 02:17:22.520
and this is the same year he
did Batman begins with Hans Zimmer Yes,

1994
02:17:22.559 --> 02:17:26.600
and I remember the trailer for this
hat the Batman begins music in it.

1995
02:17:33.479 --> 02:17:37.719
I wonder how this all started,
Like why does Kong protect them if they

1996
02:17:37.840 --> 02:17:41.799
feed my woman? Think that?
I mean there is a cool part though,

1997
02:17:41.920 --> 02:17:43.239
I mean he shows up every time
they do it, and I actually

1998
02:17:43.239 --> 02:17:46.159
do like the fact that when he
shows up here, it's pretty similar to

1999
02:17:46.159 --> 02:17:48.440
the way he showed up in the
nineteen thirty three as far as like the

2000
02:17:48.440 --> 02:17:52.840
shot composition goes. It's more animalistic
because you see like a silver back just

2001
02:17:52.879 --> 02:17:54.879
like yeah, drop in Yeah,
but uh, oh, and I like

2002
02:17:54.920 --> 02:17:58.719
instead of just like they tire up
and shut the door, they have like

2003
02:17:58.719 --> 02:18:05.360
a they don't even want to go
in. They just like the drawbridge exists.

2004
02:18:05.440 --> 02:18:07.280
I guess sometimes they have to go
with it because the bridge has a

2005
02:18:07.360 --> 02:18:11.200
door. But you could tell they
don't want to go. Yeah, they're

2006
02:18:11.239 --> 02:18:15.479
like, shit, we gotta go
in and hunt. Who's gonna go on

2007
02:18:15.520 --> 02:18:18.319
the scary? What are they gonna
kill? They can't kill any of that

2008
02:18:18.360 --> 02:18:22.399
ship. They've got to be collecting
like bamboo. Yeah. Yeah, when

2009
02:18:22.440 --> 02:18:24.479
you see what's in there, you're
like, oh man, that'd be the

2010
02:18:24.479 --> 02:18:30.680
worst place. Maybe they could take
down the bird. Yeah, probably talk

2011
02:18:30.680 --> 02:18:35.239
about excessive, Like this whole movie
is built on like these interactions between Ann

2012
02:18:35.319 --> 02:18:39.120
and Kong, and they spent like
an hour before we see con It's like,

2013
02:18:39.120 --> 02:18:43.159
but when your movie is gonna be
built around this, you want them

2014
02:18:43.159 --> 02:18:45.600
to show up a little early.
I wonder if this film had been made

2015
02:18:45.600 --> 02:18:48.280
today, would they even release it
with the way that they like are such

2016
02:18:48.360 --> 02:18:52.879
strangleholds on like blockbusters. They're like, this isn't a blockbuster. What did

2017
02:18:52.879 --> 02:18:58.840
you deliver? Did you deliver if
it was Peter Jackson The Slide? If

2018
02:18:58.840 --> 02:19:03.799
it's the director who's won the studio's
trust. But even in the Hobbit films,

2019
02:19:03.239 --> 02:19:07.639
he goes so overboard with action sequences
and things. Yes, so you

2020
02:19:07.719 --> 02:19:11.600
gotta wonder, like, well,
these days he can kind of produce his

2021
02:19:11.600 --> 02:19:13.239
own stuff, like the beginning of
the Hobbit, even the first and I

2022
02:19:13.239 --> 02:19:18.280
think the first two Hobbits are completely
serviceable. Yeah, the opening, you've

2023
02:19:18.319 --> 02:19:22.399
got the smog attack like and like
that was not the beginning of the Hobbit.

2024
02:19:22.680 --> 02:19:26.079
Yeah, so uh, and then
they include the entire wards chasing in

2025
02:19:26.159 --> 02:19:30.680
the So yeah, you gotta think
about this. You don't see Kong until

2026
02:19:30.680 --> 02:19:33.280
like an hour into the movie,
probably like this movie, and I bet

2027
02:19:33.319 --> 02:19:35.719
you that's why Skull Island. They're
like, you're showing him in the first

2028
02:19:35.799 --> 02:19:39.959
fucking scene and then twenty minutes later
he shows up again. You're playing fortunate

2029
02:19:39.040 --> 02:19:46.520
son, like you're doing the napalm
and Kong looks great still to this day.

2030
02:19:46.680 --> 02:19:48.719
It's a very good. Now,
we were watching on DVD, but

2031
02:19:48.799 --> 02:19:52.920
I do have the HD DVD that
a fan sent in, so I will

2032
02:19:52.959 --> 02:19:56.520
watch the HD DVD. That was
the only movie I remember they heavily promoted

2033
02:19:56.639 --> 02:19:58.479
was King Kong on HDDVD. I
don't know if it even works. Its

2034
02:19:58.520 --> 02:20:01.559
fan fans are telling me that like
Warner Brothers, they rushed out a lot

2035
02:20:01.559 --> 02:20:05.879
of them because they made it.
The HG DVD's, they rushed out a

2036
02:20:05.920 --> 02:20:09.200
lot of them, and whatever like
factory or whatever they used to press a

2037
02:20:09.200 --> 02:20:11.600
lot of these, Like the DVDs
don't hold up. Oh so there's like

2038
02:20:11.639 --> 02:20:16.159
they even more advanced disc rod.
Yeah, they like there's disc rod and

2039
02:20:16.200 --> 02:20:20.600
whatnot. So I have someone sent
me their entire HD DVD collection. I'm

2040
02:20:20.639 --> 02:20:24.680
gonna go through them. How many
were theyre a lot? So I have

2041
02:20:24.920 --> 02:20:31.000
an HDDVD player and then someone else
sent me the HD DVD player attachment for

2042
02:20:31.079 --> 02:20:33.280
the Xbox three sixty. That's right. I'm going to test out both and

2043
02:20:33.399 --> 02:20:41.799
see if they work. Now,
this is our first extended scene. So

2044
02:20:41.879 --> 02:20:45.799
you want this movie to be about
Ann and Kong. We want to humanize

2045
02:20:45.840 --> 02:20:50.000
Kong and show the relations. Sure, good idea cutting this particular scene out

2046
02:20:50.040 --> 02:20:54.000
because we've we've just gotten excited.
It's a Kong. We got a little

2047
02:20:54.000 --> 02:20:56.520
bit of a glimpse of him.
We know there's a chase on. We

2048
02:20:56.559 --> 02:20:58.680
want to go back to con and
I agree with you. They should have

2049
02:20:58.719 --> 02:21:01.760
cut the scene out. But yes, this this further is an even weirder

2050
02:21:01.799 --> 02:21:05.559
problem with this movie is every scene
they cut out is actually a good scene,

2051
02:21:05.719 --> 02:21:07.879
Like, uh, the saratops scene
that they desire, I have it

2052
02:21:07.959 --> 02:21:13.559
here. It's a kind of sarratops. Okay, I'm sure it has a

2053
02:21:13.680 --> 02:21:18.840
name, but oh they all have
names, like the Vana Distastosaurus. But

2054
02:21:18.920 --> 02:21:22.959
like, the idea is that these
animals have continued to evolve on the island

2055
02:21:24.200 --> 02:21:26.479
because they're not quite dinosaurs. Really
cool, and he made a choice.

2056
02:21:26.520 --> 02:21:28.440
They were like, are you gonna
try and make it more accurate? It's

2057
02:21:28.440 --> 02:21:31.559
like, now we're just their movie. No, because this is a remake

2058
02:21:31.559 --> 02:21:33.680
of King Kong Ya. No,
I want to make the gorilla as lifelike

2059
02:21:33.719 --> 02:21:37.200
as possible with all the other ones
movie. Remember the original they killed the

2060
02:21:37.239 --> 02:21:41.200
stegosaurus that's coming, and that's what
the scene. That's what this scene is.

2061
02:21:41.280 --> 02:21:43.360
But I mean it works for the
original because the originals a little faster

2062
02:21:43.559 --> 02:21:48.959
realized. Yea similar to the book
Jurassic Park where the six stegosaurus was swapped

2063
02:21:48.959 --> 02:21:52.479
out with a triceras. Oh yes, I wonder if he intentionally did.

2064
02:21:52.159 --> 02:21:56.479
That would be pretty funny if it
was. But yeah, they fight the

2065
02:21:56.680 --> 02:22:00.239
kind of sratops and they kill it. Uh, and then we cut back

2066
02:22:00.280 --> 02:22:03.319
to Anne again. Yeah, you're
right, it breaks up the action too

2067
02:22:03.399 --> 02:22:07.360
much, but yes, and so
what we're meant to believe here is the

2068
02:22:07.399 --> 02:22:11.319
women on the island they know they're
being sacrificed, so they don't put up

2069
02:22:11.360 --> 02:22:13.360
a fight. Kong like beats them
up and writes, yeah, yeah,

2070
02:22:13.680 --> 02:22:18.719
this is like whatever agreement they've made, like feed me a woman. So

2071
02:22:18.760 --> 02:22:22.399
she's the pit of all the dead
bride of Kongs. But by the way,

2072
02:22:22.479 --> 02:22:24.440
wasn't that in the Jessica Lang movie. Isn't that how she got away

2073
02:22:24.479 --> 02:22:28.360
from Kong's hand? Because it's been
years since I've seen that, because there's

2074
02:22:28.399 --> 02:22:31.920
a scene in that one where she
sees the corpses, right, Jessica Lang

2075
02:22:31.959 --> 02:22:33.680
when she's in Kong's hand, I
don't think, So there's not what am

2076
02:22:33.680 --> 02:22:37.760
I conflator? Well, now I
have another excuse to rewatch Kong seventy six.

2077
02:22:39.079 --> 02:22:43.000
But no, So she's the one
who fights back, and it confuses

2078
02:22:43.159 --> 02:22:46.479
Kanan. He's like, how are
you what? Yeah, where is older

2079
02:22:46.559 --> 02:22:48.799
versions? You kind of imply where
he's like, oh, he likes the

2080
02:22:48.799 --> 02:22:50.959
pretty white lady in her blonde hair
and then you bring it. Yeah,

2081
02:22:50.440 --> 02:22:54.840
we talked about that. I had
heard someone say that, and I'd never

2082
02:22:54.959 --> 02:22:58.000
thought that way about The King Kong. I don't even think the original movie

2083
02:22:58.040 --> 02:23:01.840
is meant to have that. I
think people attribute it a racial thing to

2084
02:23:01.879 --> 02:23:05.319
it. Uh huh, there's definitely
racist. Who probably watched the original King

2085
02:23:05.399 --> 02:23:09.680
Kago and I know what they're saying. And then Marylyn C. Cooper's just

2086
02:23:09.719 --> 02:23:13.159
like I wanted to make a monster
movie. Yeah, someone had brought that

2087
02:23:13.280 --> 02:23:16.239
up and I was like, I've
never thought of that story like that at

2088
02:23:16.319 --> 02:23:20.479
all. So that always it's weird
because you don't want it to like,

2089
02:23:20.639 --> 02:23:22.760
I don't think that's what it is. I don't think it is. Either

2090
02:23:22.879 --> 02:23:26.879
people have interpret it that way,
either because they want it to be or

2091
02:23:26.920 --> 02:23:31.159
they think whatever. But in this
version, how they get around it is

2092
02:23:31.200 --> 02:23:33.120
like, yes, she doesn't know
what she's supposed to do, like she's

2093
02:23:33.159 --> 02:23:35.959
not a native, she's not a
native. She wants to live and so

2094
02:23:37.000 --> 02:23:39.440
she's that and he's thrown off by
it. It's like, uh, oh,

2095
02:23:39.520 --> 02:23:43.079
this isn't just like an object that
I can have, Like this is

2096
02:23:43.360 --> 02:23:46.600
what is it doing? So he's
confused and he's like he like keeps her

2097
02:23:46.639 --> 02:23:48.879
around. He doesn't quite understand what's
going on. He doesn't have a relationship

2098
02:23:48.920 --> 02:23:52.319
with humans. He all he does
is wait for one to go on that

2099
02:23:52.360 --> 02:23:56.040
little drawbridge in the rabbit and he
like eats it or throws it or something,

2100
02:23:56.120 --> 02:23:58.840
and that's like that's all you know
is he's supposed to do. But

2101
02:24:00.079 --> 02:24:01.879
yeah, so he's just like,
do these things have feelings? What's going

2102
02:24:01.920 --> 02:24:07.000
on here? And I actually like
that they cut the kind of serratop scene

2103
02:24:07.040 --> 02:24:09.000
because this feels like the first time
they're seeing the yes, and even how

2104
02:24:09.040 --> 02:24:13.000
that's how it seems like it's being
filmed, and then they're just like,

2105
02:24:13.680 --> 02:24:16.440
I mean, it would still be
amazing if you saw a different dinosaur,

2106
02:24:16.479 --> 02:24:18.520
but it's like, this isn't the
first time you've seen. Well, don't

2107
02:24:18.520 --> 02:24:20.440
forget the great line of there's only
one thing in the world that could have

2108
02:24:20.440 --> 02:24:24.319
made that footprint the above snowman,
which I gotta laugh out in the theater

2109
02:24:24.680 --> 02:24:28.639
again. I do think Peter Jackson
Lost World, Jurassic Park has that t

2110
02:24:28.840 --> 02:24:35.040
rex imprint. Yeah, I'm not
saying he's intentionally like, but it was

2111
02:24:35.120 --> 02:24:37.920
less than ten years after and we're
on a jungle island, with dinosaurs and

2112
02:24:37.959 --> 02:24:41.520
they're all gathered around the footprint,
and I'm like, yeah, make it's

2113
02:24:41.520 --> 02:24:43.799
a joke out of it. I'm
like, was it a reference to Godzilla

2114
02:24:43.920 --> 02:24:48.159
ninety eight with the big footprint?
No, I don't think so. So

2115
02:24:48.239 --> 02:24:52.680
that's one problem. They were very
confident in their effects and they were like,

2116
02:24:52.719 --> 02:24:56.879
we're gonna put it in the harshest
sunlight. Yeah, not only which

2117
02:24:56.879 --> 02:25:00.159
which Jurassic Park did, but it's
a brief. In Jurassic Park, we

2118
02:25:00.159 --> 02:25:03.319
don't see this and they're running really
quick. They're running really quick, and

2119
02:25:03.440 --> 02:25:07.399
they don't linger on them in the
summer, and the Tyrannosaurus that actually kills

2120
02:25:07.440 --> 02:25:11.920
the galim Mimus is actually like doing
a very cool attack, and like,

2121
02:25:11.120 --> 02:25:15.159
yeah, but this one, like
they were just a little overconfident and they

2122
02:25:15.200 --> 02:25:18.120
don't look that great. I think
the design is fine. It's the way

2123
02:25:18.159 --> 02:25:22.159
that they all kind of like mulge
into each other. And the fact that

2124
02:25:22.440 --> 02:25:26.159
unlike Jurassic Park, the only thing
that is digital is the dinosaurs. In

2125
02:25:26.159 --> 02:25:30.239
those, that's like a backplate,
like this is a live on Hawaii location

2126
02:25:30.440 --> 02:25:33.159
running, whereas in King Kong it's
all digital. The only thing is is

2127
02:25:33.200 --> 02:25:37.319
the humans. That's I love the
idea for the stampede scene. I liked

2128
02:25:37.360 --> 02:25:39.479
him when I was a kid,
but yeah, looking at it now,

2129
02:25:39.520 --> 02:25:43.479
I'm just like them running on green
screen looks so bad. It also makes

2130
02:25:43.479 --> 02:25:46.760
you wonder if like these why are
they afraid of the little raptor creatures,

2131
02:25:46.879 --> 02:25:50.440
if like they're that big, and
if this happens often, how are they

2132
02:25:50.440 --> 02:25:54.239
not extinct? Because they all fucking
go off the edge of a cliff,

2133
02:25:54.319 --> 02:25:58.319
not all of them, but like
the ones that fell off the cliff.

2134
02:25:58.239 --> 02:26:01.440
That's the thing. I feel really
bad for these pronosaurs. I always felt

2135
02:26:01.440 --> 02:26:05.040
bad, especially when the machine gun
fire hits their legs and they all tumble

2136
02:26:05.079 --> 02:26:09.959
on top of Yeah, which looks
incredibly fake with the people like flying in

2137
02:26:09.280 --> 02:26:11.440
it, But I mean, like
this, the idea for the scene is

2138
02:26:11.440 --> 02:26:15.079
fub with these big raptors chasing them. Man, they look more like baby

2139
02:26:15.079 --> 02:26:16.360
Godzilla. Yeah, I like the
one that gets like stepped up. I

2140
02:26:16.799 --> 02:26:20.360
remember that, like you No,
You're right, the green screen, Like

2141
02:26:20.399 --> 02:26:24.840
they're lit so lightly and they're not
blending in with the environment. It's like

2142
02:26:24.159 --> 02:26:28.440
when I'm talking about the people,
the people, and they're clearly just running

2143
02:26:28.479 --> 02:26:31.239
on treadmills, and it's very odd. There's that scene where like they're all

2144
02:26:31.319 --> 02:26:37.280
piled up behind Oh god, yeah, either Jack Black or somebody comes sliding

2145
02:26:37.319 --> 02:26:39.280
in from like yeah, okay,
he would have been crushed and then like

2146
02:26:39.600 --> 02:26:43.760
he he stands out like a sore
thumb against all the dinosaurs. Yeah,

2147
02:26:43.799 --> 02:26:46.479
it is cool how baby Godzilla comes
up and he's like kills it. But

2148
02:26:46.600 --> 02:26:52.639
like it's it doesn't look as polished
as a lot of King Kong himself looks

2149
02:26:52.680 --> 02:26:56.559
incredible and that I like, I
love the idea for this scene, but

2150
02:26:56.600 --> 02:26:58.959
it's just it's one of those things. If I was looking at this editing,

2151
02:26:58.000 --> 02:27:01.440
I'm like I would have been like, you probably would have cut most

2152
02:27:01.440 --> 02:27:03.000
of it. Yeah. I think
it's cool, and it's one of the

2153
02:27:03.040 --> 02:27:07.079
most memorable scenes in the movie because
and you kind of do need the scene

2154
02:27:07.079 --> 02:27:11.280
in the movie because it's followed up
with uh, I don't remember his name,

2155
02:27:11.280 --> 02:27:15.159
but the guy's like take the tripod
and like, oh, the cameraman,

2156
02:27:15.280 --> 02:27:16.879
He's like, take my try button. He gets eaten by the raptors.

2157
02:27:16.959 --> 02:27:20.479
Yeah. Oh, by the way, Like, I guess they had

2158
02:27:20.520 --> 02:27:26.239
to have raptors because of Jurassic Park, and we've learned uh recently that dinosaurs

2159
02:27:26.239 --> 02:27:31.120
in bright daylight still look bad sold
review. I mean, I guess follow

2160
02:27:31.159 --> 02:27:35.360
you think looked better Jurassic World or
King Kong with these bright daylight scenes,

2161
02:27:35.719 --> 02:27:41.239
because it's really close in my opinion, like I guess you can. I

2162
02:27:41.239 --> 02:27:46.360
guess you could pick and shoes like
which it's a shop by shop basis.

2163
02:27:46.440 --> 02:27:48.719
Yeah, I think so too.
Overall, they're kind of even. I

2164
02:27:48.760 --> 02:27:54.159
think the the famous that is probably
one of the best daylight in these.

2165
02:27:54.200 --> 02:27:56.799
In Jurassic World, well, I
think that the the t Rex fight looks

2166
02:27:56.840 --> 02:28:00.440
pretty good later on that's at night
though, No, no, no,

2167
02:28:00.520 --> 02:28:01.719
in this I mean, oh,
that's true, that looks pretty good.

2168
02:28:01.799 --> 02:28:07.159
That's completely different though, because I
bet most of that is all CG that

2169
02:28:07.239 --> 02:28:13.319
is, and because Anne is like
so, But as far as it goes

2170
02:28:13.360 --> 02:28:18.639
with the CGI dinosaurs in the day, the movies are kind of equal case,

2171
02:28:18.719 --> 02:28:20.840
like you gotta let me know what
scene. Yeah, well, I

2172
02:28:20.840 --> 02:28:24.559
will say this, I think the
bronosaur stampede scene is pretty close to the

2173
02:28:24.639 --> 02:28:28.200
quality of like the gyrosphere going,
yeah, like that's what it looks like.

2174
02:28:28.600 --> 02:28:33.360
They darken the colors of the dinosaurs
and the gyrosphere one to kind of

2175
02:28:33.399 --> 02:28:35.360
help, but it didn't work,
not really. Anne tries the play dead.

2176
02:28:37.600 --> 02:28:41.719
I like the relationship between her and
Case, but then it cuts back

2177
02:28:41.760 --> 02:28:46.479
to Baxter, who's like, everything
sucks. And in this scene I have

2178
02:28:46.520 --> 02:28:48.360
to see theatrical cut because this scene
is in the theatrical cut. I don't

2179
02:28:48.399 --> 02:28:52.159
remember it being here. Maybe it
is, but I think them starting to

2180
02:28:52.159 --> 02:28:56.000
build the raft is not included.
No, because they're all just hanging out

2181
02:28:56.040 --> 02:29:00.760
by the water. And he's just
like, uh, well, we gotta

2182
02:29:00.799 --> 02:29:03.600
go back for taking it off in
nine hours yep. Yeah, And they're

2183
02:29:03.600 --> 02:29:05.680
like what about Anne. He's like, look, she was nice, but

2184
02:29:05.719 --> 02:29:09.360
we gotta go on CA And I'm
just like, yeah, you said that.

2185
02:29:09.399 --> 02:29:11.120
You're like, ye, I agree
with him. I'm literally being like,

2186
02:29:11.680 --> 02:29:15.920
yeah, I don't really know the
shick. When they created the raft.

2187
02:29:15.959 --> 02:29:18.959
In the original, they've got the
whole scene where the bronosaurs eats the

2188
02:29:18.000 --> 02:29:22.079
guy out of the the tree,
which she can't do, Like, even

2189
02:29:22.120 --> 02:29:24.959
though you want to be an authentic
King Conger like, yeah, people aren't

2190
02:29:24.959 --> 02:29:28.959
gonna they're gonna laugh at that,
like a modern movie. So they created

2191
02:29:28.000 --> 02:29:33.000
this entirely new actually creatures with these
scorpion things, which are one of the

2192
02:29:33.040 --> 02:29:37.040
main enemies of the game. Yeah, the video game those scorp Yeah,

2193
02:29:37.079 --> 02:29:41.440
and then they created the I believe
it's called the which is cool. Yeah,

2194
02:29:41.479 --> 02:29:43.440
it's a big eel with the piranha. This is a great sequence,

2195
02:29:43.719 --> 02:29:48.879
Yes, and I wish it was
in the movie, but well, yeah,

2196
02:29:48.920 --> 02:29:54.040
it's it's weird. Let me see
here. Yeah. So before that,

2197
02:29:54.120 --> 02:29:58.239
we get Kong with Anne and she
does the thing where she's like entertaining

2198
02:29:58.319 --> 02:30:01.559
him. She's doing the comedian Yeah, and he's amused because she tried to

2199
02:30:01.559 --> 02:30:05.959
sneak away and he found her,
but then he gets embarrassed. But then

2200
02:30:07.000 --> 02:30:09.879
he gets embarrassed because he tries to
act all tough but then a rock rock

2201
02:30:09.639 --> 02:30:13.120
great, and he doesn't they ever
see like a dog or cat do that

2202
02:30:13.440 --> 02:30:16.920
embarrassed? Not my current cash.
She doesn't get embarrassed by ship. She's

2203
02:30:16.959 --> 02:30:20.079
awful. But I've had other cats
that like try to do like a cool

2204
02:30:20.159 --> 02:30:22.479
jump and then fell and then people
looked at them and they don't know how

2205
02:30:22.520 --> 02:30:26.440
to feel, so they just run
away and then they come back later and

2206
02:30:26.440 --> 02:30:28.760
they're like, did you guys forget
I did that? Yeah, we all

2207
02:30:28.879 --> 02:30:33.239
that didn't happen. That was another
cat. I like the way that they

2208
02:30:33.239 --> 02:30:37.639
played that off with the boulder falling
because it made Kung like a pretty relatable

2209
02:30:37.639 --> 02:30:41.440
animal. Yeah, but then then
it cuts back to them and it's like

2210
02:30:41.479 --> 02:30:46.520
this long ass scene with them being
attacked by the piranadas. And again the

2211
02:30:46.520 --> 02:30:50.520
scene is fun, but even this
scene is dragged out with the guy underwater

2212
02:30:50.639 --> 02:30:58.760
swimming bears terristicl doing the whole Yeah, awkward, awkward green screen in this

2213
02:30:58.920 --> 02:31:03.559
too. It's such a cool scene, but I do it had to be

2214
02:31:03.600 --> 02:31:05.840
cut, Like, yeah, the
the director's gut. It really is like

2215
02:31:07.639 --> 02:31:11.799
we're establishing, we're trying to build
cong as a sympathetic character. We got

2216
02:31:11.799 --> 02:31:15.639
to cut the monsters fighting these guys
because oh we're back to establishing Congress.

2217
02:31:15.920 --> 02:31:18.200
We got to cut back to monsters
fighting. It's like it's a juggling act

2218
02:31:18.239 --> 02:31:22.479
because you've got like, are we
gonna tell the super serious King Kong drama

2219
02:31:22.559 --> 02:31:24.520
like romance thing or are we gonna
make the monster were talking about it,

2220
02:31:24.600 --> 02:31:28.440
like I prefer the scenes with like
Kong interacting with an a little bit more

2221
02:31:28.479 --> 02:31:33.719
I do to and the action scenes
that involve him more so than the guys.

2222
02:31:33.959 --> 02:31:35.840
It's what you come for to.
Yeah, I mean, but that

2223
02:31:37.000 --> 02:31:41.159
being said there. The other action
scenes are cool and good. They're well

2224
02:31:41.200 --> 02:31:45.239
done. The creature design and this
is phenomenal. Now, if they had

2225
02:31:45.360 --> 02:31:48.760
sped up the first goddamn act,
we could have had those scenes that it

2226
02:31:48.799 --> 02:31:52.559
probably wouldn't have felt as it was
dragging off on the island. Yeah,

2227
02:31:52.760 --> 02:31:54.399
this is like, if you just
sped up the first act, you could

2228
02:31:54.399 --> 02:31:56.799
have had all this still. Yeah, and I don't think it would have

2229
02:31:56.799 --> 02:32:01.200
been as jarring. No, But
for this, it's like, it took

2230
02:32:01.280 --> 02:32:03.280
us a long time to get here
to see Kong, and you keep cutting

2231
02:32:03.360 --> 02:32:07.639
away from Kong and not even like
a stylistic thing like Godzilla. How keeps

2232
02:32:07.639 --> 02:32:11.200
cutting away from Godzilla? Right,
it's kind of like a stylistic choice.

2233
02:32:11.239 --> 02:32:15.799
This is more distracting from the main
line story. Yes, I mean that

2234
02:32:15.920 --> 02:32:18.200
version is frustrated for different reasons,
but yes, this one, it's just

2235
02:32:18.239 --> 02:32:22.559
like, yeah, I'm just what
do you want me? Is this monsters

2236
02:32:22.600 --> 02:32:24.440
attacking people? Or do I care
about con Right, you can have a

2237
02:32:24.479 --> 02:32:28.760
little bit of this, but I
need more of this, And it was

2238
02:32:28.799 --> 02:32:31.000
they were right to cut it out
for the theatrical cut, but even the

2239
02:32:31.000 --> 02:32:35.600
theatrical cut it has a little too
much. It does it's a stampede scene.

2240
02:32:35.600 --> 02:32:37.639
Could have been trimmed down a little
bit. Yeah, but like we

2241
02:32:37.799 --> 02:32:41.719
said, it's they're not bad,
like they're not bad scenes, Like there's

2242
02:32:41.760 --> 02:32:45.040
nothing in them where you're like,
oh, yeah, this was This was

2243
02:32:45.079 --> 02:32:50.319
cut because it conflates with something else
in the movie, like like continuity wise

2244
02:32:50.399 --> 02:32:52.159
or something. No, it's just
we don't need it. And if you're

2245
02:32:52.200 --> 02:32:54.520
trying to make the best movie you
can, you get it. You gotta

2246
02:32:54.600 --> 02:32:58.120
leave that cool ass scene on the
cutting room floor. Yes, but it

2247
02:32:58.159 --> 02:33:03.040
does have a scene at the very
end where Carl's just filming. It makes

2248
02:33:03.120 --> 02:33:05.200
him look like a villain. He's
filming this chaos and then the guy gets

2249
02:33:05.200 --> 02:33:07.239
eating and Lumpy's like, did you
get that? Just get that? Did

2250
02:33:07.280 --> 02:33:09.840
you? Yeah? Yeah, And
it's just like he is like he's the

2251
02:33:09.879 --> 02:33:15.680
bad guy, morseless and his face
is like he's just he's just losing.

2252
02:33:15.760 --> 02:33:20.479
That's evil man. But yeah,
then we get another extended scene. I

2253
02:33:20.520 --> 02:33:22.280
mean, it makes sense why they
cut this. It's kind of interesting where

2254
02:33:22.360 --> 02:33:26.200
Ann is running through the woods and
then the men hear something in the woods

2255
02:33:26.559 --> 02:33:31.280
and Lumpy goes to shoot and you're
made to think they killed Anne, right,

2256
02:33:31.319 --> 02:33:33.680
but they really kill a giant bird. Yeah, giant baby bird.

2257
02:33:33.719 --> 02:33:37.239
It's a cool practical effect. It
is the only practical monster I can think

2258
02:33:37.280 --> 02:33:41.319
of this movie. They had a
practical raptor head that pulled that guy down.

2259
02:33:41.559 --> 02:33:45.440
Oh I didn't know, yeah,
but like but yeah, this it's

2260
02:33:45.479 --> 02:33:48.959
a practical effect of this baby bird. And then like they shoot it in

2261
02:33:48.000 --> 02:33:52.079
the head to kill it, and
like it's a little dark. That's a

2262
02:33:52.120 --> 02:33:56.280
little too dark for that can kind
of go because in the scene right before

2263
02:33:56.319 --> 02:34:01.000
that, Lumpy's criticizing Carl and then
like did Lumpy just kill and so it's

2264
02:34:01.079 --> 02:34:01.639
like, yeah, you know what, get rid of this. I get

2265
02:34:01.639 --> 02:34:03.920
why they killed that. I don't
eve think you need to write that scene.

2266
02:34:05.200 --> 02:34:07.719
It's fake tension too, because you
know he's not going to shoot in

2267
02:34:07.799 --> 02:34:11.280
And it's also like we need Jack
Dreschool to feel like some sort of urgency,

2268
02:34:11.520 --> 02:34:16.159
and we need more cool creatures.
So yeah, it is funny how

2269
02:34:16.200 --> 02:34:18.559
in the theatricals out there, like
oh, maybe we didn't need all these

2270
02:34:18.600 --> 02:34:22.600
creatures. We just kind of need
Kang. Yeah, and I mean we

2271
02:34:22.639 --> 02:34:26.520
need creatures. They gotta have the
t Rex, yes, yeah, I

2272
02:34:26.520 --> 02:34:28.239
mean that might have been a toy
thing. We're like, well, we

2273
02:34:28.319 --> 02:34:31.600
got to put out a toy of
the plan. I wasn't like picking up

2274
02:34:31.600 --> 02:34:33.840
any of the action figures I remember. No. I wonder if some guys

2275
02:34:33.959 --> 02:34:37.840
got that years later, but that's
it. I wonder if they did action

2276
02:34:37.920 --> 02:34:41.280
figures of like this, the Piranha
don and stuff. I wonder if they're

2277
02:34:41.280 --> 02:34:45.440
like, where the fuck was this? I have a statue I was.

2278
02:34:45.639 --> 02:34:48.280
It's funny. I moved all my
Kong stuff home and then we did this

2279
02:34:48.319 --> 02:34:50.079
episode and I had to bring it
all back. Oh but yeah, I

2280
02:34:50.120 --> 02:34:54.559
have the statue of Kong on top
of the b Rex. Yeah. So

2281
02:34:54.639 --> 02:34:58.200
at some point after Kong runs away, the guys are walking over a lot

2282
02:34:58.239 --> 02:34:58.920
oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah, And we get

2283
02:35:00.120 --> 02:35:01.639
this in all three versions. It
needs to be in the movie. Yes,

2284
02:35:03.239 --> 02:35:07.639
staple of the King Kong story.
You only really needed this. I

2285
02:35:07.639 --> 02:35:09.639
don't even think you needed the stampede
scene to be honest, probably yes,

2286
02:35:11.520 --> 02:35:18.760
well yeah. The cool thing about
the whole log scene is that we establish

2287
02:35:18.879 --> 02:35:22.120
Captain Hayes or mister Hayes's death.
I always like this scene. I still

2288
02:35:22.159 --> 02:35:24.840
like it to this day. However, what happens afterward. I'm not a

2289
02:35:24.840 --> 02:35:30.399
big fan of choy dies. Yes, the log. He makes it in

2290
02:35:30.399 --> 02:35:33.040
the original. I think he had
a different name in the original, but

2291
02:35:33.079 --> 02:35:37.239
he makes it in the Don't love
Lumpies, like you know, his serious

2292
02:35:37.280 --> 02:35:41.559
care for like his friend, but
they you know, he throws the log

2293
02:35:41.639 --> 02:35:46.840
down. King Kong comes out of
the cave and ship like that. It

2294
02:35:46.920 --> 02:35:48.159
needs to be in the movie.
Now. I do think it's a little

2295
02:35:48.200 --> 02:35:54.680
weird that they kind of cut away
from that and go to something else.

2296
02:35:54.159 --> 02:35:58.479
Makes you wonder where Anne. Oh
yeah, afterwards they cut to Anne,

2297
02:35:58.600 --> 02:36:03.799
yeah to break up that Actually where
she's being chased by giant iguanas are really

2298
02:36:03.840 --> 02:36:07.719
cool, uh I remember, Yeah, she sneaks into like a like a

2299
02:36:07.840 --> 02:36:11.879
lot, like a trunk, and
the one iguana gets eaten. I love

2300
02:36:11.920 --> 02:36:13.120
it when the money gets eating you
see the other one going like that.

2301
02:36:13.479 --> 02:36:16.959
Yeah, and then it's got this
great transition and now we rac focus on

2302
02:36:18.000 --> 02:36:22.000
like the centipede company. My I
remember my friend in the theater almost throwing

2303
02:36:22.120 --> 02:36:24.760
up when the antenna went in her
mouth and then the ones coming right back,

2304
02:36:26.000 --> 02:36:28.399
and he was like, well,
like it was the creepiest thing for

2305
02:36:28.479 --> 02:36:31.239
him. And meanwhile, I'm like, there's more bugs. They should have

2306
02:36:31.360 --> 02:36:37.040
used those were what was supposed to
make uh doctor Burke freak out in Behind

2307
02:36:37.040 --> 02:36:39.200
the Waterfall and the Lost we instead
of the snake. Yeah, it was

2308
02:36:39.200 --> 02:36:43.959
supposed to be a scene just like
that where it's like coming and he like

2309
02:36:43.079 --> 02:36:46.319
just freaks out and then the t
Rex grabs him instead of Oh it's a

2310
02:36:46.360 --> 02:36:50.520
snake. It's a harmless snake.
But I mean, uh, it's cool

2311
02:36:50.559 --> 02:36:54.040
that they freak her out. She
runs out of the log and then you

2312
02:36:54.120 --> 02:36:58.559
like go up and you're like shipping
like v Rex. I guess it's still

2313
02:36:58.600 --> 02:37:01.680
eating the thing. Yeah, very
cool creature design here, And I think

2314
02:37:01.719 --> 02:37:07.440
that this movie set the standard going
forward for those Jurassic World movies you were

2315
02:37:07.440 --> 02:37:09.120
talking about, because the teeth are
all janky. Yeah, if you look

2316
02:37:09.159 --> 02:37:13.280
at the teeth in the in the
v rexes for King Kong, they're all

2317
02:37:13.319 --> 02:37:16.479
like in grown and grown out in
weird, fucked up places. And the

2318
02:37:16.559 --> 02:37:20.600
Indominus Rex and the Indo raptor,
even the Giga that they're putting in Dominion,

2319
02:37:20.959 --> 02:37:24.440
they've gone for that. I guess
Colin Trevarro just really liked the screwed

2320
02:37:24.520 --> 02:37:28.440
up look of the dinosaurs in this
movie, which it looks cool, but

2321
02:37:28.520 --> 02:37:31.920
like, uh, Yeah. The
v Rex comes out and starts chasing her.

2322
02:37:31.360 --> 02:37:37.719
Yes, and it's got like alligator
like scoots, very small eyes,

2323
02:37:37.959 --> 02:37:39.799
yes, very tiny eyes. And
you were saying how much cooler it would

2324
02:37:39.840 --> 02:37:43.879
be if they use the Jurassic Park
t rex. Yeah, party was wondering,

2325
02:37:43.959 --> 02:37:48.920
like if they had just used because
that when you talk about iconic like

2326
02:37:48.079 --> 02:37:52.879
creature design and you think about a
t rex, which is probably why they

2327
02:37:52.879 --> 02:37:56.319
went in a different direction with this. But yeah, and also licensing him.

2328
02:37:56.520 --> 02:38:01.360
Have you ever seen there was an
old Japanese CD including soundtrack stuff that

2329
02:38:01.520 --> 02:38:03.680
came out and on the soundtrack this
is from Universal okay, and it has

2330
02:38:03.799 --> 02:38:09.040
an image of King Kong. This
King Kong fighting the spinosaurs from Jurassic Park

2331
02:38:09.079 --> 02:38:13.760
three. You check that? Check? That's cool. That reminds me of

2332
02:38:13.799 --> 02:38:18.719
a years and years and years ago
when they were making Dragons Slayer. They

2333
02:38:18.760 --> 02:38:20.840
took a picture of the dragon from
that movie I forget what it's called,

2334
02:38:22.639 --> 02:38:24.719
and they took a picture of it
fighting the Rank Corps. Oh yeah,

2335
02:38:24.879 --> 02:38:28.440
the magazine Every Years. People thought
that was a great dragon and it's like

2336
02:38:28.520 --> 02:38:33.920
no, yeah, from Dragon Slayer. This fight scene is long, but

2337
02:38:33.000 --> 02:38:39.239
an excessive but I like it because
it has Kung and our main character in

2338
02:38:39.360 --> 02:38:43.239
peril and she's in danger. He's
got to protect her. It's well chorey

2339
02:38:43.319 --> 02:38:45.959
graphs, it's well choreographed. I
love the whole, Like I mean,

2340
02:38:46.000 --> 02:38:48.760
it is successive that he did three
goddamn t rexes, but that's what people

2341
02:38:48.920 --> 02:38:54.399
came to see like that. Yeah, it needed to happen. Yeah,

2342
02:38:54.440 --> 02:38:56.559
in this scene, I don't mind. I like this whole. It deserves

2343
02:38:56.600 --> 02:39:00.479
to be in the movie for sure. Yes, and all over the railers

2344
02:39:00.520 --> 02:39:03.440
and ship. Yes. I think
the trailer and later trailers maybe, but

2345
02:39:03.440 --> 02:39:05.639
I think the first trailer just made
it seem like it was one fight with

2346
02:39:05.680 --> 02:39:09.159
the Yes, I loved. I
love this image they've used. Yeah,

2347
02:39:09.360 --> 02:39:13.399
oh yeah things. Yeah, I
always loved in the theater the first time

2348
02:39:13.399 --> 02:39:16.840
I saw him rip the tongue out
of that shit. But yeah, so

2349
02:39:16.879 --> 02:39:22.000
he kills one with a rock and
then they like tumble into a cavern full

2350
02:39:22.000 --> 02:39:24.879
of vines, kind of like afore
time situation. I love that, like,

2351
02:39:24.120 --> 02:39:30.200
well, he's fighting the one.
The one is the man. And

2352
02:39:30.680 --> 02:39:33.920
I told you, I love the
clap that they make when they are movie

2353
02:39:35.000 --> 02:39:37.520
monster, because I think any other
animal will be more concerned about falling surviving.

2354
02:39:37.840 --> 02:39:39.760
Yeah, like, oh god,
oh god, and it makes her

2355
02:39:39.760 --> 02:39:45.680
such a great scene and you are
remaking a monster movie. But yeah,

2356
02:39:45.680 --> 02:39:48.680
they make it all the way down
into the mud. The one v Rex's

2357
02:39:48.719 --> 02:39:52.600
face gets smashed on the wall twice. Yeah, but yeah, the the

2358
02:39:52.639 --> 02:39:58.719
one v Rex it comes to eater
Kan jumps in front of it. He

2359
02:39:58.760 --> 02:40:03.840
does the famous jaw rip, and
of course he adds the tongue biting tribute

2360
02:40:03.879 --> 02:40:07.760
to the original where he's playing with
the jaw. But like, you find

2361
02:40:07.799 --> 02:40:11.840
out that this whole thing was just
him trying to be like, I am

2362
02:40:11.959 --> 02:40:15.280
tough. You forgot about that rock
thing, right, because he does the

2363
02:40:15.280 --> 02:40:18.760
thing where he poses again that I'm
cooler than you. She kind of looks

2364
02:40:18.799 --> 02:40:20.559
at him now he's like, oh, you saved me, you know.

2365
02:40:20.719 --> 02:40:22.799
She's like, fuck, all right, Well, I know all these other

2366
02:40:22.879 --> 02:40:26.200
monsters could have eaten. That's the
thing. It's like, I don't want

2367
02:40:26.200 --> 02:40:28.760
to be here, but if I
am, you're the best thing to be

2368
02:40:28.799 --> 02:40:35.079
around. So Peter Jackson is obsessed
with the missing spider Pit sequence, as

2369
02:40:35.079 --> 02:40:37.840
he should be. So if you
don't know see the original King Kong,

2370
02:40:39.120 --> 02:40:43.040
the director was the opposite where he
went, my movie's too long. Yeah,

2371
02:40:43.040 --> 02:40:46.559
I'm gonna cut shit out of it. I could probably use this spider

2372
02:40:46.600 --> 02:40:50.079
pit sequence. That's why it's weird
in the original that they like fall into

2373
02:40:50.120 --> 02:40:54.159
the pit and then like Jack is
climbing, but then we see the two

2374
02:40:54.280 --> 02:40:56.360
armed lizard. Yeah, and it's
like, what the fuck is that thing?

2375
02:40:58.040 --> 02:41:01.120
And there were people who argue for
years if it actually existed or not.

2376
02:41:01.200 --> 02:41:03.600
And someone found a frame of like
a spider in the pit, and

2377
02:41:03.639 --> 02:41:07.200
I guess that's where the lizard came
from. So when it screamed, did

2378
02:41:07.200 --> 02:41:13.319
they actually include this scene in nineteen
thirty three in theaters? I don't think

2379
02:41:13.319 --> 02:41:16.040
they did. Okay, so they
did, and this was I know it

2380
02:41:16.079 --> 02:41:18.799
was lost. It's definitely lost.
I don't know if they screened it.

2381
02:41:18.840 --> 02:41:20.440
He might have just trimmed it out. He did recreate it in stop motion.

2382
02:41:20.680 --> 02:41:24.840
Yes, I was gonna say,
get the DVD like Peter Jackson for

2383
02:41:24.879 --> 02:41:26.520
the So he wanted to do this
so he could do the spider pit sequens.

2384
02:41:26.559 --> 02:41:28.639
Imagine what the producers are thinking,
what are you wasting money on?

2385
02:41:28.719 --> 02:41:31.600
And I think he did that on
his own. I think it's prettyuch a

2386
02:41:31.639 --> 02:41:35.399
company did that on his own.
But yeah, he decided like, Hey,

2387
02:41:35.399 --> 02:41:37.280
while I'm doing this, would it
be fun to do the original Spider?

2388
02:41:37.280 --> 02:41:41.280
And he got actors who the same. It's great. It is a

2389
02:41:41.319 --> 02:41:46.000
great sequence, like both the stop
motion that he did and in the in

2390
02:41:46.040 --> 02:41:48.840
the final cut in this, and
they needed to include that in this in

2391
02:41:48.840 --> 02:41:52.840
the final theatrical cut. It was
funny that they don't have the two legged

2392
02:41:52.840 --> 02:41:56.520
lizard. But then it makes it
into Kong's Skull Island and it's the main

2393
02:41:56.600 --> 02:41:58.239
village. Yeah, the skull Crawler. It is so funny they picked that

2394
02:41:58.280 --> 02:42:01.079
to be the main build. I'm
like, it is in King Kong.

2395
02:42:01.159 --> 02:42:03.319
For a second, I think he
kicks it down. Okay, So here's

2396
02:42:03.319 --> 02:42:07.840
what I think went through the Because
Congskull Island came in twenty seventeen, it

2397
02:42:07.920 --> 02:42:11.000
was after Jurassic World. Yes,
so they're thinking, fuck, we can't

2398
02:42:11.120 --> 02:42:16.440
use dinosaurs or we're going to compete
with Jurassic Park is back. Yeah that

2399
02:42:16.520 --> 02:42:20.079
lizard and they're like, okay,
that's the thing. Because you notice that

2400
02:42:20.159 --> 02:42:24.680
they went for more of the tone
of the seventies k with the Toho Monster

2401
02:42:24.799 --> 02:42:28.920
verse, so they're like that looks
that's what we're gonna use. Oh,

2402
02:42:28.920 --> 02:42:33.959
those things aren't cool. They're cool. Yeah. I have a commentary track

2403
02:42:33.040 --> 02:42:39.440
for King Congskull Island. Try my
least favorite Monster Verse movie. I really

2404
02:42:39.479 --> 02:42:41.479
I saw it once. I just
I don't like it. I like it

2405
02:42:41.520 --> 02:42:45.280
now now that I've been breaked.
I've only seen it the one time.

2406
02:42:45.280 --> 02:42:48.319
I need to rewatch it. You
rewatch it because once you realize that they

2407
02:42:48.360 --> 02:42:52.360
were going for the schlocky Toho sort
of thing. When you go in with

2408
02:42:52.440 --> 02:42:56.280
that mindset, it's a lot better. Samuel Jackson saying hold on to your

2409
02:42:56.280 --> 02:43:00.079
butts John Goodman's death, and then
there's definitely still dumb shit in it,

2410
02:43:00.200 --> 02:43:03.959
and the director will admit to the
dumb shit in it, like when Honest

2411
02:43:03.000 --> 02:43:05.920
Trailers, when it was still good
before they fired my friend Andy Signore,

2412
02:43:07.520 --> 02:43:11.159
who was completely innocent. Uh,
he won his lawsuit, can't argue with

2413
02:43:11.200 --> 02:43:15.799
it. They actually had him on
and he like because he hated the director,

2414
02:43:15.840 --> 02:43:18.600
hated cinema sins. So he went
on I think everyone hates. So

2415
02:43:18.639 --> 02:43:22.200
he went on Honest Trailer. There
was about Roberts actually a big draft part

2416
02:43:22.200 --> 02:43:26.239
guy to Yeah, So he went
on Honest Trailers and he pointed the flaws

2417
02:43:26.239 --> 02:43:28.920
out in this movie, and then
he defended some of the people's complaints.

2418
02:43:28.920 --> 02:43:31.399
So yeah, I have a lot
of respect for Oh I do remember that.

2419
02:43:31.479 --> 02:43:33.680
Yeah, So yeah, definitely go
back and rewatch it. I don't

2420
02:43:33.680 --> 02:43:37.680
hold anything against him or the movie
itself. I just I just didn't enjoy

2421
02:43:37.719 --> 02:43:41.440
it when it came out. Neither
I will rewatch, Like I said,

2422
02:43:41.440 --> 02:43:50.520
neither did I until I rewatch.
The music is eerie because it's not matching

2423
02:43:50.559 --> 02:43:54.959
any of the things in the scene. It's just this constant like that's life

2424
02:43:54.959 --> 02:43:56.920
on the island. Yeah, and
it's like real creepy and there's just so

2425
02:43:56.920 --> 02:44:01.719
many fucking bugs down there, and
this scene makes itchy crickets and I love

2426
02:44:01.799 --> 02:44:05.200
that they can't even climb because they
show that these big crabs that'll come out,

2427
02:44:05.600 --> 02:44:07.879
and yeah, that's great. I
think I talked to you about the

2428
02:44:07.920 --> 02:44:11.280
creature design of the leeches. Is
that what they Yeah, those were the

2429
02:44:11.479 --> 02:44:18.159
terror graboids. Yeah, Lumpy has
one of the best PG thirteen deaths,

2430
02:44:18.239 --> 02:44:22.879
like ever, oh god, And
I'm like, what a way to go,

2431
02:44:22.319 --> 02:44:26.520
Like when the one starts getting his
head and I remember seeing those like

2432
02:44:26.600 --> 02:44:28.799
fleshy tentacles and I was thinking,
I'm like, man, if they ever

2433
02:44:28.840 --> 02:44:33.479
did another thing movie, I putn't
mind tentacles, and then they did and

2434
02:44:33.520 --> 02:44:37.399
it was very bad. Do you
have a review for it? I think

2435
02:44:37.440 --> 02:44:39.719
it's cool that he actually does take
a couple of mouth like with The most

2436
02:44:39.799 --> 02:44:45.799
unrealistic thing in the scene is him
Tommy gunning the crickets off. I'm like,

2437
02:44:45.879 --> 02:44:48.959
oh, fuck you. The most
unrealistic scene is in Hayes body.

2438
02:44:50.440 --> 02:44:54.120
Oh yeah, he's just that.
I hate the fact I don't like see

2439
02:44:54.120 --> 02:44:56.639
this is where it ends up going. Jimmy grabs his hat and I'm like,

2440
02:44:56.719 --> 02:45:00.159
that's a neat senecut. That's not
even into the actual cut. That's

2441
02:45:00.159 --> 02:45:01.600
what I didn't remember that. And
I'm like, he grabbed his hat that

2442
02:45:01.600 --> 02:45:03.840
it's a little morbid. You're not
gonna bury your like friend, You're not

2443
02:45:03.840 --> 02:45:07.840
gonna haul his carcass. Yeah,
nothing, not even any of the bugs

2444
02:45:07.840 --> 02:45:09.879
try to fuck with him, Like, yeah, that was weird because they

2445
02:45:09.920 --> 02:45:15.159
needed the body there for that scene
that they then cut out. But yeah,

2446
02:45:15.200 --> 02:45:16.520
the one good thing I do like
in the scene is that Jack Black

2447
02:45:16.680 --> 02:45:20.000
just loses it because the film all
he goes crazy. The film gets exposed

2448
02:45:20.040 --> 02:45:22.680
and ruined, and he thinks he's
ruined, so he just beats the ship

2449
02:45:22.719 --> 02:45:26.879
and I was like fighting all the
bugs and with with like the broken drive

2450
02:45:26.920 --> 02:45:30.399
and he's it's crazy. But they
get saved by Bruce Backs, which is

2451
02:45:30.399 --> 02:45:33.159
a great comeback because he's like swinging
down like an old like nineteen thirties action.

2452
02:45:33.399 --> 02:45:37.399
Yes, because earlier he's like heroes
don't look like me in the real

2453
02:45:37.399 --> 02:45:41.120
world and a bald head. But
yeah, so he comes back. They

2454
02:45:41.120 --> 02:45:43.920
save him. The crew saves them
for some reason, and some reason they

2455
02:45:43.959 --> 02:45:46.719
didn't realize egle Horns should be out
at this point. He's like, the

2456
02:45:46.719 --> 02:45:50.799
boat's fixed. Fuck all of you. It's so funny that none of them

2457
02:45:50.840 --> 02:45:54.479
realized Jack was climbing up the wrong
side of the wall till he gets to

2458
02:45:54.520 --> 02:46:00.360
the top. Yeah, so Jack
Lam's fucking psychopathic. His car realizes he's

2459
02:46:00.399 --> 02:46:03.040
gonna bring hand back and the gorilla
will follow, and he convinced his angle

2460
02:46:03.079 --> 02:46:07.000
Horn's like, we could trap this
gorilla and make a ton of money.

2461
02:46:07.399 --> 02:46:16.280
El he is evil, He's satan. Kan takes a home and this movie

2462
02:46:16.399 --> 02:46:22.360
references other movies that were inspired by
King Knu, And of course I'm talking

2463
02:46:22.360 --> 02:46:26.559
about this. Him bringing her home
and showing her his dead family that he

2464
02:46:26.600 --> 02:46:31.079
still lives with is from Ega,
the Richard Keel classic about the caveman who

2465
02:46:31.079 --> 02:46:35.399
lives in the desert and he kidnaps
Roxy and he shows he shows her the

2466
02:46:35.440 --> 02:46:39.639
skeletons of his family, who are
just paper machet, but they're there and

2467
02:46:39.680 --> 02:46:43.479
he still talks to them. Yeah, it's kind of sad because they were

2468
02:46:43.479 --> 02:46:46.879
like talking about like this kan like
gorillas are supposed to be social living and

2469
02:46:46.920 --> 02:46:50.200
stuff. Yes, so when you
have one in isolation you've seen in like

2470
02:46:50.319 --> 02:46:54.760
Zeus and stuff, like you're like, you don't even watch Tiger King.

2471
02:46:54.079 --> 02:46:58.159
They talked about how they he had
the two chimpanzee separated and then we're taking

2472
02:46:58.200 --> 02:47:01.399
out of his custody. They like
embraced each other because they wanted to hang

2473
02:47:01.440 --> 02:47:05.239
out, and he's like, fuck, I deprived them of like this growth.

2474
02:47:05.719 --> 02:47:07.920
So in the Kung and this he
for whatever reason, Yeah, he

2475
02:47:07.959 --> 02:47:11.879
doesn't have his family. They've been
killed or whatever. They all died in

2476
02:47:11.959 --> 02:47:13.879
the cave. It looks like either
that or that's where their bones are just

2477
02:47:13.959 --> 02:47:18.440
kind of being collected by him.
It's interesting because I don't remember there being

2478
02:47:18.479 --> 02:47:22.120
that many skeletons. I remember there
being one or two, but then you

2479
02:47:22.159 --> 02:47:24.399
see the movie. Is it in
the theatrical cutting, not just yeah,

2480
02:47:24.399 --> 02:47:28.959
it's the there's like five skulls,
so like there's a lot of I like

2481
02:47:28.959 --> 02:47:33.719
how they reveal the one, like
you see it in the corner coming in,

2482
02:47:33.799 --> 02:47:35.360
and then he moves the sunlight lights
it up, you see it.

2483
02:47:37.479 --> 02:47:39.959
And also while he's there, there's
a bunch of scary bats in the cave,

2484
02:47:39.399 --> 02:47:43.280
but they look he looks out into
the sun at the top of this

2485
02:47:43.360 --> 02:47:46.120
cliff where he looks at the whole
island. This is where you can see

2486
02:47:46.120 --> 02:47:48.879
that Peter Jackson's retooling some stuff from
the original, because you've got two fight

2487
02:47:48.959 --> 02:47:54.200
sequences there cut from h this film
that are in the original. Yeah,

2488
02:47:54.200 --> 02:47:58.000
when he's going through the cave,
there's the pleasiest source snake creature, which

2489
02:47:58.000 --> 02:48:01.200
he doesn't fight in this movie.
He just you know, peacefully walks with

2490
02:48:01.239 --> 02:48:03.799
I guess because you've got so many
other fights. Just had like a bunch

2491
02:48:03.840 --> 02:48:09.399
of fightings, especially the Rex,
and then they cut the Taranadon fight and

2492
02:48:09.479 --> 02:48:13.319
instead have the bats and that's how
Anne gets away. Like, yeah,

2493
02:48:13.360 --> 02:48:16.399
but I like them just sitting looking
at the sunlight. Yeah, it's a

2494
02:48:16.399 --> 02:48:18.120
good thing. It feels weird because
he's like I have something to hang out

2495
02:48:18.159 --> 02:48:22.600
with. Now. Well he's also
I like the idea when you see the

2496
02:48:22.639 --> 02:48:26.319
corpses of all the other king Kong's
that like he's got all these scars and

2497
02:48:26.399 --> 02:48:30.600
like all these fight and you realize
this is a dangerous place to live.

2498
02:48:30.719 --> 02:48:33.159
Yeah, he's the only girl.
Like they're all dead. I don't know

2499
02:48:33.239 --> 02:48:37.840
how they died, but presumably from
other fights. I'm guessing they get into

2500
02:48:37.840 --> 02:48:41.600
fights with like everything. Yeah.
But yeah, so they have a nice

2501
02:48:41.600 --> 02:48:52.239
scene where they just watch the sun
set. Yeah, all this ruckus freaks

2502
02:48:52.239 --> 02:48:54.520
out the bats and they then fly
out, and then Cong starts fighting the

2503
02:48:54.559 --> 02:48:58.159
bats and gets distracted by them,
and they grab onto a bat wing and

2504
02:48:58.280 --> 02:49:01.120
like, yeah, well now they're
sneaking on the vine and then he's grabbing

2505
02:49:01.159 --> 02:49:03.600
the vine. But oh yeah that's
a great way pulling it back up.

2506
02:49:03.680 --> 02:49:07.280
Yeah yeah. Oh and I like
when he's just roaring off the cliff.

2507
02:49:07.280 --> 02:49:09.840
He's like, fuck, you give
me back my lady. Yeah. So

2508
02:49:09.920 --> 02:49:13.680
yeah, you're right. They Yeah, it's so excessive. They could have

2509
02:49:13.719 --> 02:49:16.399
just climbed down a vine, jump
on a bat and then flying to a

2510
02:49:16.440 --> 02:49:22.360
riff. That's a little ridiculous.
Uh, but yeah, they make it

2511
02:49:22.399 --> 02:49:24.559
back to the wall where this big
trap is being set. Uh, and

2512
02:49:24.600 --> 02:49:28.559
they have this big fight, Like
he comes on the wall, he breaks

2513
02:49:28.600 --> 02:49:31.760
through the doors. Uh, he
doesn't just say, oh my god,

2514
02:49:31.840 --> 02:49:35.040
that was badass even in the theater, dude, because you've got all the

2515
02:49:35.079 --> 02:49:39.360
people on the other side. And
remember Preston like does it early and yeah

2516
02:49:39.479 --> 02:49:41.760
king, oh yeah, and he
gets hit with the face. I think

2517
02:49:41.799 --> 02:49:46.280
I always wanted to see the Jurassic
Park gates again because at this time you

2518
02:49:46.399 --> 02:49:50.440
talked a lot about how like this
really did itch that scratch after Jurassic Partic,

2519
02:49:50.040 --> 02:49:54.120
Yes, after Jurassic Park went away, because we Draft Park three is

2520
02:49:54.120 --> 02:49:58.479
like four years ago at this point. Yeah, and we this was the

2521
02:49:58.600 --> 02:50:01.840
last time for all while that we
got a proper dinosaur movie. Yeah.

2522
02:50:01.879 --> 02:50:05.360
So, like we were talking,
we got movies with dinosaurs in them,

2523
02:50:05.360 --> 02:50:07.360
like the Land of the Loss remake, but that was pretty series. Yeah,

2524
02:50:07.440 --> 02:50:11.479
yeah, yeah, there wasn't something
like this like this PG thirteen action

2525
02:50:11.639 --> 02:50:16.079
until Jurassic World again. And like
we were talking about, how again,

2526
02:50:16.200 --> 02:50:18.159
this movie was ten when that came
out. Now it's almost twenty years old.

2527
02:50:18.479 --> 02:50:22.079
But this was exciting. I always
wanted to see a t Rex or

2528
02:50:22.120 --> 02:50:28.239
something burst through the Jurassic part gates. But when Kong fucking like launches and

2529
02:50:28.319 --> 02:50:33.399
you know, all these dudes are
like, they are not like well matched.

2530
02:50:33.479 --> 02:50:35.799
I think there's an extended show where
he like chatters a house that's there.

2531
02:50:37.120 --> 02:50:39.879
Yeah, the natives they don't get
involved. The natives are gone.

2532
02:50:39.920 --> 02:50:41.680
Yeah, they're like, fuck this
the original King Kong, the famous thing

2533
02:50:41.680 --> 02:50:46.399
where like he breaks through and but
they they're not fucking with They're like,

2534
02:50:46.479 --> 02:50:50.479
yeah, man, those port natoves
they left the and oh my god,

2535
02:50:50.559 --> 02:50:54.840
now they're gates busted, their gates
bust. Anything could come in and kill

2536
02:50:54.920 --> 02:50:58.760
him. I never thought about that. Yeah, I talked about in the

2537
02:50:58.280 --> 02:51:03.200
seventies. They're probably thrilled Kong is
going because I'm sure there's others to take

2538
02:51:03.239 --> 02:51:05.520
n Sure there's other monsters on the
island, but it doesn't look like there's

2539
02:51:05.559 --> 02:51:09.760
many. But yeah, that's the
problem with that movie. There's just a

2540
02:51:09.799 --> 02:51:11.159
snake. But yeah, I remember
in that movie, they're like all those

2541
02:51:11.239 --> 02:51:16.479
natives we took their God, they're
just gonna be drunk losing. They're gonna

2542
02:51:16.479 --> 02:51:20.159
be able to actually reuse all the
resources on their island for the first time

2543
02:51:20.239 --> 02:51:22.479
ever ruins and yeah, they're like, hey, we can actually like go

2544
02:51:22.600 --> 02:51:26.719
in there without being eaten by a
gorilla, let's hang out or a snake.

2545
02:51:26.840 --> 02:51:31.120
I mean sure there's probably other giants
snakes, but like, look all

2546
02:51:31.159 --> 02:51:35.040
this greenery we can actually have access
to the scene is really like tragic where

2547
02:51:35.040 --> 02:51:37.479
he's just trying to get to Inn
and get her back, and she she

2548
02:51:37.600 --> 02:51:41.239
understands she can't be with him,
but she also doesn't want him hurt.

2549
02:51:41.360 --> 02:51:45.399
Yeah, and they do the great
chloroform reused, but I'll try to like

2550
02:51:45.479 --> 02:51:48.399
hit him with the chloroform but it's
not strong enough, not quite. But

2551
02:51:48.639 --> 02:51:50.879
I love the scene where he bites
that guy's head off. Yeah, yeah,

2552
02:51:50.920 --> 02:51:54.799
he just like bits because he was
biting people in the original. Apparently,

2553
02:51:54.959 --> 02:51:58.879
I don't know if they filmed it
or if it was meant to be

2554
02:51:58.920 --> 02:52:01.799
there, but apparently they're were they
were going to have a cameo with the

2555
02:52:01.799 --> 02:52:05.000
Hobbits here where they were there were
a bunch of crewmen who were going to

2556
02:52:05.040 --> 02:52:09.079
die. I think it was here, and it totally could have worked,

2557
02:52:09.120 --> 02:52:11.360
but I do think it would have
been distracting. Who was it was It

2558
02:52:11.479 --> 02:52:13.520
just Frodo and I think it was
all of them? Was Sam, but

2559
02:52:13.600 --> 02:52:18.399
I can't kill Sam but no,
I mean not as the Hobbits. They

2560
02:52:18.399 --> 02:52:20.600
would just be the actors, I
know, but still they're if they're all

2561
02:52:20.639 --> 02:52:26.040
together, you're supposed to make the
connection. But yeah, I was thinking

2562
02:52:26.079 --> 02:52:28.600
about it, and I'm like,
that would have kind of taken me out

2563
02:52:28.600 --> 02:52:31.959
of the movie. Yeah, I
wouldn't have taken it seriously either. Yeah,

2564
02:52:31.959 --> 02:52:35.200
because this is the most like turning
point traumatic scene that. Yeah,

2565
02:52:35.360 --> 02:52:41.200
this is like I'm invested in the
emotion of the Kongway and distracting cameo.

2566
02:52:41.239 --> 02:52:45.959
Would it worked here or Carl up
on the rocks it delivers the final chloroform.

2567
02:52:46.120 --> 02:52:48.159
Yeah, after they stab them with
the harpoon. Yeah, which you

2568
02:52:48.159 --> 02:52:52.319
think would that really be the thing
that actually hurts Kong after all, the

2569
02:52:52.360 --> 02:52:56.280
tyrannosaur like bite because the taner bones
like that harpoon's like that. But it

2570
02:52:56.319 --> 02:53:00.799
was like, and it's it's larp
It looks like it's sticking out where it

2571
02:53:00.799 --> 02:53:03.040
didn't really go in. It probably
made it in his bone or something.

2572
02:53:03.159 --> 02:53:07.120
I do like the fact that Carl's
like, we're millionaires boys, share it

2573
02:53:07.120 --> 02:53:13.079
with all of you and you've never
seen those guys again. Fucking this guy's

2574
02:53:13.159 --> 02:53:16.840
a cruel bastard. We cut to
New York, very very harsh transition,

2575
02:53:18.239 --> 02:53:20.399
much like San Diego and Loss.
We were talking about the excess of this.

2576
02:53:20.559 --> 02:53:26.040
It's shocking that he showed restraint and
didn't do what the seventies did,

2577
02:53:26.079 --> 02:53:28.600
where we get a scene of him
and I do like it on the boat

2578
02:53:28.639 --> 02:53:31.040
in the seventies where he's like causing
a ruckus and stuff. But we just

2579
02:53:31.040 --> 02:53:35.360
got right to New York and it's
the night of the big show and we're

2580
02:53:35.399 --> 02:53:37.719
made to believe that Anne is the
star of the show. How they're cutting

2581
02:53:37.719 --> 02:53:41.600
it and at the same time Jack
is putting on a very problematic play.

2582
02:53:43.239 --> 02:53:46.319
But it's got dialogue from when he
had Anne earlier and this whole thing.

2583
02:53:46.319 --> 02:53:50.000
It's like he misses hand. He
thinks An's going to be up the show.

2584
02:53:50.040 --> 02:53:54.040
Everyone's excite, all the producers who
ate a Carl, I love it,

2585
02:53:54.200 --> 02:53:56.840
but all you brought back the ape? Yes, and Carl introduces the

2586
02:53:56.879 --> 02:54:01.520
show and he's like, ah,
yes, uh he was tamed by a

2587
02:54:01.600 --> 02:54:05.559
girl from New York and everyone cheers. You mentioned those Probably something add him

2588
02:54:05.559 --> 02:54:09.360
because of nine to eleven. It's
still posting. It's still early post from

2589
02:54:09.399 --> 02:54:13.559
New York. Yeah, it's not
quite the scene in Spider Man you messed

2590
02:54:13.600 --> 02:54:18.159
with one of us, You messed
with All that was added after the fact.

2591
02:54:18.760 --> 02:54:20.799
By the way, the show sucks, like it's cool to see a

2592
02:54:20.799 --> 02:54:24.520
giant gorilla, but you think about
it, like they open up the curtain.

2593
02:54:24.520 --> 02:54:28.040
The grilla is just like feel a
little bad for him. Yeah,

2594
02:54:28.159 --> 02:54:31.280
I mean just posted. Yeah,
it's just like I do like Bruce Baxter

2595
02:54:31.399 --> 02:54:35.360
running out there, and he should
have had the mustache. It would have

2596
02:54:35.360 --> 02:54:39.479
been a great payoffs funny with that
character too, because they kind of go

2597
02:54:39.520 --> 02:54:43.440
in a direction when he saves everyone
that he's like redeeming himself from the narcissistic

2598
02:54:43.639 --> 02:54:46.799
Hollywood tennessees. Yeah, but then
he runs away at the end. Well

2599
02:54:46.840 --> 02:54:50.159
he's other people can deal with it. Yeah, but yeah, and I

2600
02:54:50.239 --> 02:54:52.840
like the show that they're putting on
and again again a little excessive. It's

2601
02:54:52.840 --> 02:54:56.280
like, yes, Peter Jackson,
I know you love the original Kong.

2602
02:54:56.879 --> 02:55:00.719
You didn't have to pull out the
original costumes and the music a scene from

2603
02:55:00.719 --> 02:55:03.280
it. You're already remaking the movie. But yeah, I like the Chief

2604
02:55:03.360 --> 02:55:07.319
looks like the Chief of the original
and the music from the originals playing there,

2605
02:55:09.000 --> 02:55:11.879
And I have it here. Kyle
Chandler didn't dance enough in the New

2606
02:55:11.000 --> 02:55:15.719
Kong movies. I like his I
like his gorilla dancing in this. Yes,

2607
02:55:16.600 --> 02:55:18.479
the next movie they should have him
dancing with King Kong. You think

2608
02:55:18.479 --> 02:55:22.159
he'll do a Son of Kong one
day? Probably not. That was that

2609
02:55:22.200 --> 02:55:26.280
World War One thing. I don't
know. So Carl picks the worst time

2610
02:55:26.319 --> 02:55:31.120
to take pictures on stage wild presentations. Well, the play is still going

2611
02:55:31.120 --> 02:55:33.159
on. That's it's not a good
play. Very weird. Oh and we

2612
02:55:33.200 --> 02:55:37.159
find out Anne's out there. She
is, Kong's distracted from that. Yeah

2613
02:55:37.159 --> 02:55:41.520
you're not Anne. Yeah, so
we see Anne's there, But then because

2614
02:55:41.600 --> 02:55:45.559
the movie is successive, we have
to cut to her and the other shows

2615
02:55:45.760 --> 02:55:48.639
slow motions. Very This is the
part of the movie where in theaters,

2616
02:55:48.639 --> 02:55:52.639
the theatrical cutting. I was like, okay, I've seen King Kong,

2617
02:55:52.719 --> 02:55:56.719
Peter Jackson, I got a pee
really bad. He better start climbing that

2618
02:55:56.799 --> 02:56:01.120
tower, really, you know what
I mean. And it's like a slow

2619
02:56:01.200 --> 02:56:05.959
motion sad song scene. And it's
like I mean, I mean, showed

2620
02:56:07.000 --> 02:56:09.799
the reveal that she's not actually there. But it didn't need to be filmed

2621
02:56:09.879 --> 02:56:13.680
like this, Like I didn't need
to go see a tap dancer. During

2622
02:56:13.799 --> 02:56:16.040
to break Up, this action breaks
out of the chrome steel. I like

2623
02:56:16.120 --> 02:56:22.600
that He's like, he's our chrome
steel. It breaks shattered because Carl does

2624
02:56:22.639 --> 02:56:28.000
not know the riddle of steel.
Yeah, yes, it's flesh. Yes.

2625
02:56:28.799 --> 02:56:35.920
The subscriber James Old also, do
I like him chasing Adrian Brodie throughout

2626
02:56:35.920 --> 02:56:37.559
the streets in the car Fox his
car up pretty good? Yeah, well,

2627
02:56:37.600 --> 02:56:41.520
I like before the car he's just
in man, he's in Times Square.

2628
02:56:41.559 --> 02:56:43.040
And I was telling you when I
saw this movie earlier that day,

2629
02:56:43.079 --> 02:56:46.159
I'd been in the Yeah you were
there, Yeah, and I'm like,

2630
02:56:46.200 --> 02:56:48.159
oh, it's funny. And then
I go to watch a movie like I

2631
02:56:48.200 --> 02:56:50.600
was just there. But yeah,
I like that he's just digging into the

2632
02:56:50.639 --> 02:56:54.959
bus, just grabbing people out.
This stuff is great, but it is

2633
02:56:54.280 --> 02:56:58.639
too much. It's too at this
point in the movie. It's a little

2634
02:56:58.680 --> 02:57:01.040
too much. We're well into the
third act and like, I don't think

2635
02:57:01.360 --> 02:57:07.600
Peter Jackson understood, like, because
we know what to expect going in.

2636
02:57:07.680 --> 02:57:11.000
We've seen the original movie. Yeah, we are looking forward to the final

2637
02:57:11.120 --> 02:57:16.639
climactic action sequences. And when you
add on top of that, military trying

2638
02:57:16.639 --> 02:57:20.159
to like not only get Kong,
but Kong reuniting with and it's like,

2639
02:57:22.239 --> 02:57:24.879
all right, this movie, you
already overdid it with like all that.

2640
02:57:24.879 --> 02:57:28.360
That's the thing. He did overdo
it with the island, and luckily he

2641
02:57:28.440 --> 02:57:31.000
cut a lot the island. Everything
was so fucking cool. If he had

2642
02:57:31.120 --> 02:57:35.959
just a quicker first act, we
could have had the stuff of the island,

2643
02:57:35.000 --> 02:57:39.559
we could have separated where it's like, first act is we're gonna get

2644
02:57:39.559 --> 02:57:41.760
to the island, we're there,
we meet Kung, and then you have

2645
02:57:41.920 --> 02:57:45.920
like the island segment and then the
New York segment, and then the New

2646
02:57:46.000 --> 02:57:48.360
York stuff was kind of like an
afterthought. But then he also wanted that

2647
02:57:48.559 --> 02:57:52.639
to be big and loud and long. And it's crazy because like every time

2648
02:57:52.680 --> 02:57:56.319
I've watched this film, when they're
like on the ice and everything, I'm

2649
02:57:56.360 --> 02:58:00.680
like, yes, all right.
So he beats up Jack and and just

2650
02:58:00.680 --> 02:58:03.200
happens to be there walking and walking
in very slow motion coming back to see

2651
02:58:03.280 --> 02:58:05.840
Kong. And they use this in
the trailer, and it's cool for the

2652
02:58:05.840 --> 02:58:09.520
trailer when you're watching this so well
made movie. But yeah, it is

2653
02:58:09.520 --> 02:58:13.200
a great shots, great musical integration. But but yeah, he grabs her.

2654
02:58:13.879 --> 02:58:16.079
I don't know why she would even
entertain this. I know she cares

2655
02:58:16.079 --> 02:58:18.319
for Kong, but at this point
she's like, no, yeah, it

2656
02:58:18.399 --> 02:58:22.159
sucks for him. Let me just
lead you down that path of death.

2657
02:58:22.200 --> 02:58:26.719
Come yeah. But then yeah,
yeah, I don't know what her plan

2658
02:58:26.879 --> 02:58:28.799
is here. Yeah, but yeah, they do the ice skating thing where

2659
02:58:28.799 --> 02:58:31.719
he's all happy. Yeah, that
was the scene in the theater. I

2660
02:58:31.760 --> 02:58:35.840
was like, I gotta go to
the back. Yeah, the military attacks

2661
02:58:35.920 --> 02:58:39.760
him. There's an extended scene right
after this, which I had never seen

2662
02:58:39.799 --> 02:58:45.559
before. This military guy's liked this
gorilla is taking over the city. Damn

2663
02:58:45.600 --> 02:58:48.639
dirty eight. We get him.
I don't want him in my city.

2664
02:58:48.879 --> 02:58:52.920
We're gonna show them that. And
then cong just like knocks all of them.

2665
02:58:52.479 --> 02:58:58.959
We head off. I would that
would have been a good scene for

2666
02:58:58.000 --> 02:59:01.719
the Hoppits. Yeah, it is
funny, but it takes away from the

2667
02:59:01.760 --> 02:59:05.280
seriousness of what's going on, and
it's kind of like and it's straight up

2668
02:59:05.319 --> 02:59:09.920
Peter Jackson humor. But it didn't. But it really it's a little too

2669
02:59:09.000 --> 02:59:11.799
late for this kind of humor.
The movie at this point is a little

2670
02:59:11.840 --> 02:59:16.559
too serious, like the well,
this is the climax, like you're you're

2671
02:59:16.600 --> 02:59:18.680
not supposed to have any goofy this
going on right now. I felt really

2672
02:59:18.760 --> 02:59:22.280
bad. I always feel bad,
like when Kong dies in this movie,

2673
02:59:22.280 --> 02:59:28.159
because he really like you can see
he's dying, like when he's like,

2674
02:59:28.200 --> 02:59:31.159
well they they fucking. At some
point, they almost tricky into thinking he's

2675
02:59:31.200 --> 02:59:35.239
gonna make it, yeah, because
because he's he like shatters the one plane.

2676
02:59:35.280 --> 02:59:37.639
I look when he grabs the one
plane. Oh yeah, and that's

2677
02:59:37.760 --> 02:59:39.639
on the you know poster, and
yeah, I've always loved that scene.

2678
02:59:39.680 --> 02:59:41.799
I was like, oh, I'm
waiting for him to sling it because when

2679
02:59:41.840 --> 02:59:45.479
he grabs that one fight and slings
in the other one, I like the

2680
02:59:45.520 --> 02:59:48.360
badass. They show the planes like
wings folding and it just falls into a

2681
02:59:48.879 --> 02:59:52.920
cool and by the way, we
were talking like wow, the CG really

2682
02:59:52.959 --> 02:59:56.959
holds up here, like it like
shockingly still holds up like the city and

2683
02:59:58.000 --> 03:00:01.399
everything. The model Kong alone there, it's like a lot of close ups

2684
03:00:01.399 --> 03:00:03.799
and some of this stuff, and
he's got in with him and it looks

2685
03:00:03.840 --> 03:00:07.840
really good. Yeah, some of
the green scream with her could be dodgy,

2686
03:00:07.879 --> 03:00:09.879
but like all the stuff of the
planes in the city, I'm like,

2687
03:00:09.879 --> 03:00:13.559
this still looks phenomenal. Usually you
go back and you watch these movies,

2688
03:00:13.600 --> 03:00:16.120
you're like, eh, they did
a great job on this. This

2689
03:00:16.200 --> 03:00:20.959
final this is you know, the
most apart from the t Rex fight.

2690
03:00:22.399 --> 03:00:26.040
You're looking forward to the Empire state
building. Yes, but yeah, he

2691
03:00:26.079 --> 03:00:31.719
tragically dies, very very sad,
and it is pretty sad because you like,

2692
03:00:31.760 --> 03:00:33.479
you hear the heartbeat and everything you
see like his eyes roll back and

2693
03:00:33.520 --> 03:00:37.319
then like and then he falls off
and it's like, oh buddy, yeah

2694
03:00:37.559 --> 03:00:41.719
that's a bummer. Yeah, that
shot of looking down while he's like yeah,

2695
03:00:41.760 --> 03:00:45.799
it's like really slow with the planes. That was the one time where

2696
03:00:45.840 --> 03:00:50.239
slow motions actually needed. And the
music like gets drowned out there, which

2697
03:00:50.280 --> 03:00:54.959
I like. And she's very sad
and then she hugs Adrian Brody. Yeah.

2698
03:00:54.120 --> 03:00:58.639
Now what do you think about the
scene where all the like military people

2699
03:00:58.680 --> 03:01:03.040
are like getting their picture taken with
the dead body of Kong is tragic?

2700
03:01:03.120 --> 03:01:05.440
Yeah, it makes sense, but
now I mean no, now, realistically

2701
03:01:05.440 --> 03:01:09.799
they should all be covered in blood
and Entrail would have been a good twist

2702
03:01:09.840 --> 03:01:13.600
for this, but he should have
fallen on top of Carl Denham. That

2703
03:01:13.639 --> 03:01:18.719
would have well, the Carl Denham
equivalent dies in the seventy six version.

2704
03:01:20.479 --> 03:01:22.399
Yeah, yeah, he does,
but Carl Denham, because he doesn't die

2705
03:01:22.399 --> 03:01:24.719
in the original they kept them live. But it's like this version of Carl

2706
03:01:24.760 --> 03:01:28.280
Dnham, but this guy is is
the bad guy and instead he gets his

2707
03:01:30.040 --> 03:01:33.079
the way they cut it, they
make it seem just see he's naive and

2708
03:01:33.079 --> 03:01:35.120
overly ambitious. But yeah, but
when you watch the extended cut, it's

2709
03:01:35.120 --> 03:01:39.799
like people dying. This dude needs
to die right now. He's like,

2710
03:01:39.840 --> 03:01:43.000
oh, yeah, that'll be great
for the film. Yeah, yeah,

2711
03:01:43.040 --> 03:01:46.959
but they were all they almost ruined
the scene because they talked about they wanted

2712
03:01:46.959 --> 03:01:50.040
the Fay Ray cameo. She was
still alive at the time, nobody would

2713
03:01:50.040 --> 03:01:52.959
have understood, and it was going
to cut to an old lady's stewing the

2714
03:01:52.959 --> 03:01:56.920
whole it was Beauty that killed the
Beast? Lying, was that supposed to

2715
03:01:56.000 --> 03:02:01.440
be a grown up Like, no, no, it was just like Titanic

2716
03:02:01.479 --> 03:02:03.799
thing. Okay, well that's even
weirder. Some random old lady just happened

2717
03:02:03.799 --> 03:02:09.399
to be there to say the line
she knows what's going on, and they

2718
03:02:09.440 --> 03:02:11.959
were talking about how they were gonna
go to her apartment and blue screen it.

2719
03:02:13.000 --> 03:02:16.799
I'm like, oh, thank god
they chose that's terrible. I still

2720
03:02:16.799 --> 03:02:20.920
don't like Carl saying it because of
what he's done to cause all this,

2721
03:02:20.000 --> 03:02:24.200
and it looks like he hasn't learned
anything. Yeah, he's like, well,

2722
03:02:24.520 --> 03:02:28.479
I'm gonna go shoot Son of Kong. Well yeah, if anything,

2723
03:02:28.520 --> 03:02:33.319
he's just like he should have in
this version of the movie. He should

2724
03:02:33.319 --> 03:02:37.639
have just been like, yeah,
that's my fault and been arrested or something.

2725
03:02:37.760 --> 03:02:41.559
The movie really should have ended with
him going like, you know,

2726
03:02:41.879 --> 03:02:45.040
I can't help but think I might
be responsible for that. That's why I

2727
03:02:45.040 --> 03:02:46.440
said King Kong should have fallen on
top of him. Oh, I've been

2728
03:02:46.440 --> 03:02:50.920
good. I mean that would have
been good. But yeah, then the

2729
03:02:50.920 --> 03:02:54.440
movie ends with the nice James Newton
Howard score, great music. It makes

2730
03:02:54.479 --> 03:02:58.959
you sad and cry. Not me. I didn't cry, but other people

2731
03:02:58.040 --> 03:03:01.360
cried to girls. I saw it
with the second time ball in their eyes

2732
03:03:01.399 --> 03:03:05.399
out. I know my family people, My family cried. But yeah,

2733
03:03:05.440 --> 03:03:07.840
it's very, very sad and tragic, and I really like it. But

2734
03:03:07.920 --> 03:03:11.479
I think we can agree. Yeah, yeah, it needed a lot cut

2735
03:03:11.559 --> 03:03:15.200
out of it. It's it's too
excessive. It's great, and I love

2736
03:03:15.239 --> 03:03:18.360
this movie and I personally love a
lot of that stuff, but I can

2737
03:03:18.399 --> 03:03:20.200
see like as a wonder, I'm
like, this should have been trimmed.

2738
03:03:20.360 --> 03:03:24.840
Too many characters, the fight scenes
go on a little too long. I

2739
03:03:24.879 --> 03:03:28.600
think this is the perfect example of
like editing and narrative editing everything else.

2740
03:03:28.680 --> 03:03:31.799
And by the way, you can
still have this movie. Editing will have

2741
03:03:31.799 --> 03:03:35.120
saved this movie. Yeah, well, like it's every scene is great,

2742
03:03:35.360 --> 03:03:39.280
but when it comes to actually having
a digestible, like really good structure.

2743
03:03:39.479 --> 03:03:41.840
Yeah, something we talked about The
Lost World really suffered from with that hard

2744
03:03:41.879 --> 03:03:46.360
cut to San Diego where they cut
the whole scene out where the t Rex

2745
03:03:46.360 --> 03:03:50.000
wakes up on the boat and that
kills people. And then on top of

2746
03:03:50.000 --> 03:03:52.799
that, you've got drass Park three, which we've talked about like there is

2747
03:03:52.840 --> 03:03:56.959
no third act, yeah, really
is there? And this movie you've got

2748
03:03:56.000 --> 03:04:01.760
this collection of incredible scenes ruxtually.
When you watch him all cut together,

2749
03:04:01.799 --> 03:04:05.040
I said, it felt like a
rough cut because it's like, dude,

2750
03:04:05.319 --> 03:04:09.239
the story is buried. It's like
burying the lead and like a misleading artist,

2751
03:04:09.559 --> 03:04:15.120
You're like, what is this like? And this is the era where

2752
03:04:15.120 --> 03:04:18.280
they do put out extended cuts.
They do it less these days, which

2753
03:04:18.280 --> 03:04:22.639
is upsetting. And knowing that he
must have known he was going to be

2754
03:04:22.639 --> 03:04:26.239
able to put out an extended cut, knowing that he could have trimmed the

2755
03:04:26.239 --> 03:04:30.600
theatrical cut a little bit more,
a little bit more, I think he

2756
03:04:30.600 --> 03:04:33.000
could have had his cake and eating
it. Two. But you've got Peter

2757
03:04:33.120 --> 03:04:37.840
Jackson coming off of not one,
but three, he got a little little

2758
03:04:37.959 --> 03:04:41.799
little two. Not only were those
films considered like great, those films made

2759
03:04:41.840 --> 03:04:46.120
a shit ton of money. I
just think we know now that he's not

2760
03:04:46.680 --> 03:04:50.799
the strongest writer. Did he Well, yeah, he did write this with

2761
03:04:50.840 --> 03:04:52.520
his wife, didn't he. I
think this movie's written fine. I think

2762
03:04:52.520 --> 03:05:00.879
this movie was just too excessive,
Like I really believe personally, Yeah,

2763
03:05:00.920 --> 03:05:05.639
Frank Walsh, Philippa Boyaans, and
Peter Jackson No. I I mean he's

2764
03:05:05.639 --> 03:05:09.120
a funny writer, but it's just
like he doesn't know how to like he

2765
03:05:09.319 --> 03:05:11.639
trimp cut it, trimp pull it
back. Yeah, he doesn't know how

2766
03:05:11.680 --> 03:05:13.040
to like simplified thing. And we
saw that with The Hobbit. I don't

2767
03:05:13.040 --> 03:05:16.920
know if he wrote the Hobbit,
but we saw like he did. I

2768
03:05:16.959 --> 03:05:20.120
think, right, some stuff in
the Hobbit I think with which you really

2769
03:05:20.159 --> 03:05:22.959
get it. With the second I
think the Second Hobbit movie is the best,

2770
03:05:22.680 --> 03:05:26.520
even though they include the very questionable
relationship between the Dwarf and the Elf,

2771
03:05:28.239 --> 03:05:31.239
and then they the whole third movie
is that plus dude, the Battle

2772
03:05:31.280 --> 03:05:33.120
of the Five Armies in the book
is literally like a couple of yes.

2773
03:05:33.399 --> 03:05:37.360
It's like nothing. And then in
the movie Bilbo gets knocked out and he

2774
03:05:37.360 --> 03:05:39.959
wakes up and it's done. Yes, And in the movie the dwarfs are

2775
03:05:41.079 --> 03:05:45.719
like a fucking gatling gun and like
there's like these creature designs which people because

2776
03:05:45.719 --> 03:05:48.799
people got so used to his long, action packed movies, and it's like,

2777
03:05:48.840 --> 03:05:52.239
well, the story was actually also
good in those, and the characters

2778
03:05:52.239 --> 03:05:54.879
were good and you knew what to
focus on. It wasn't that it was

2779
03:05:54.000 --> 03:05:56.840
just long and had a lot of
action. Yeah, And that's what he

2780
03:05:56.879 --> 03:05:58.520
did with this. He's like,
I'm gonna make it long and have a

2781
03:05:58.559 --> 03:06:01.280
lot of action. It's like,
well, the other thing, too,

2782
03:06:01.399 --> 03:06:03.440
is that none of it's bad,
Like all of the action in this,

2783
03:06:03.639 --> 03:06:07.239
all of the like special screen.
Well, yeah, but Stampede is bad.

2784
03:06:07.360 --> 03:06:11.920
I'm talking about the actual Like,
there's nothing in it that screams poorly

2785
03:06:13.079 --> 03:06:16.319
done. Yes, it's just too
much, too much, Like you gotta

2786
03:06:16.319 --> 03:06:20.239
cut this stuff back. But yeah, I still think that theatric cut,

2787
03:06:20.719 --> 03:06:22.799
even even though I've made all those
critiques about the extended cut, it's very

2788
03:06:22.840 --> 03:06:26.159
fun. The theatric Cut's a way
to watch this movie. There's an even

2789
03:06:26.200 --> 03:06:31.639
better movie buried in the theatrical cut. Yes, but even with all of

2790
03:06:31.639 --> 03:06:35.319
that being said, too much of
a good thing still means that you've got

2791
03:06:35.319 --> 03:06:37.360
a good thing. Yeah, this
is a good movie. Definitely think it's

2792
03:06:37.360 --> 03:06:41.559
the second best King Kong after the
nineteen thirty three original, And I don't

2793
03:06:41.600 --> 03:06:48.879
think anything else comes like at a
close third for me. Like I like

2794
03:06:48.959 --> 03:06:54.520
Son of Kong and Godzilla Versus Kong, but those movies are like further down

2795
03:06:56.360 --> 03:06:58.719
for me. Seventy six I have
to rewatch that. But how close do

2796
03:06:58.719 --> 03:07:03.760
you think that film really isn't quality
to this? God, I'm equal,

2797
03:07:03.799 --> 03:07:09.920
I think really that. I don't
know, No, it's I have a

2798
03:07:09.920 --> 03:07:11.879
sauce spot for that one. Like
if you're going five out of five stars

2799
03:07:11.959 --> 03:07:16.319
nineteen thirty three original four and a
half or four for this song, yes,

2800
03:07:16.719 --> 03:07:20.319
yes, and then what do you
do like the seventy six, like

2801
03:07:20.360 --> 03:07:24.120
a three out of five five?
Okay, no, no, no,

2802
03:07:24.200 --> 03:07:28.360
yeah, you're right, right,
there's a big gap in quality between the

2803
03:07:28.559 --> 03:07:31.559
King and the good thing with this
is I think we're done telling the story.

2804
03:07:31.719 --> 03:07:35.200
I think we got it. You
don't think they'll ever remake it again.

2805
03:07:35.280 --> 03:07:37.559
We did it three times, make
another fifty years. I don't know

2806
03:07:37.559 --> 03:07:41.399
how you're going to top this version, which is why I don't mind having

2807
03:07:41.399 --> 03:07:45.959
this more action schlocky Kong. It's
like we had the other version, you

2808
03:07:46.040 --> 03:07:48.920
had it. I get that.
I preferred this style, like what they

2809
03:07:48.920 --> 03:07:52.559
were doing in the original thirty three
version, in the two thousand and five

2810
03:07:52.639 --> 03:07:56.479
version. That's my cong like the
serious cong so, but I mean after

2811
03:07:56.520 --> 03:08:00.319
a certain point, it's just like, well, we got it. Yeah,

2812
03:08:00.559 --> 03:08:01.920
what are you gonna do the story
again? Yeah? Yeah, I

2813
03:08:01.959 --> 03:08:07.319
get it. I get it.
Yeah. Like it's also probably the achilles

2814
03:08:07.360 --> 03:08:09.479
heel of trying to franchise King Kong
is the fact that they tried to do

2815
03:08:09.559 --> 03:08:11.920
that back in the day, and
like I don't hate Son of Kong,

2816
03:08:13.079 --> 03:08:16.120
yeah, Son of Kong, And
they did not know how to make sequels

2817
03:08:16.120 --> 03:08:20.559
back then, Like even Beneath the
Planet of the Apes, Son of Kong,

2818
03:08:20.600 --> 03:08:22.840
they're like, let's sink the island
so that we can't do anymore and

2819
03:08:22.879 --> 03:08:28.040
like then they're like, let's just
nuke the world. They were like,

2820
03:08:28.360 --> 03:08:30.559
so we're gonna do a third one. Uh, there's a new ape.

2821
03:08:30.600 --> 03:08:35.319
He's called Joe Young. We're Mighty
Joe. Even in King Kong versus Godzilla,

2822
03:08:35.479 --> 03:08:39.200
they're like, yeah, yeah,
this is Faroe Island. Oh because

2823
03:08:39.200 --> 03:08:41.440
it's a different time. Yeah,
I know, they're like they can't make

2824
03:08:41.479 --> 03:08:46.879
a sequel. You could technically say
Son of Kong's connected because the fucking islands.

2825
03:08:46.879 --> 03:08:50.440
But yeah, but like yeah,
yeah, yeah, but yeah,

2826
03:08:50.559 --> 03:08:54.840
I think it's a fun time.
It's great. We really enjoyed this movie.

2827
03:08:54.879 --> 03:08:56.879
It's it is too much. It
is too excessive. I definitely think

2828
03:08:56.920 --> 03:09:01.479
for even though it's too much,
in way too excessive, you're watching filmmaking

2829
03:09:01.680 --> 03:09:05.079
like genius on display here all around. This is an example having too much

2830
03:09:05.079 --> 03:09:09.959
creative control. Sometimes this was his
passion, pride. Sometimes having a producer

2831
03:09:11.000 --> 03:09:15.840
to reel in some ideas can help. Yeah. I know everyone thinks producers

2832
03:09:16.239 --> 03:09:18.040
the bane of the universe and they
like ruin things because a lot of times

2833
03:09:18.040 --> 03:09:22.079
they do, Spielberg, but there
are occasionally times we're having someone to push

2834
03:09:22.120 --> 03:09:26.399
back on your ideas. We saw
what the Star Wars prequels when the director

2835
03:09:26.440 --> 03:09:30.239
has free reign to do whatever he
wants. Sure, and then the sequels

2836
03:09:30.239 --> 03:09:33.319
are the opposite. But yeah,
it's like you need someone to push back

2837
03:09:33.360 --> 03:09:37.120
on right, Hey, yeah these
are business. Yeah, you make movies

2838
03:09:37.120 --> 03:09:41.799
to make money. And you talk
about like producers having that like final Sayer

2839
03:09:41.840 --> 03:09:45.520
control, which Peter Jackson had ultimate
control in this movie. Yes, Spielberg

2840
03:09:45.760 --> 03:09:48.479
stepped in a lot for Jurassic World
Fallen Kingdom. Originally that movie was supposed

2841
03:09:48.479 --> 03:09:50.879
to be in London. The whole
thing was going to be set on a

2842
03:09:50.879 --> 03:09:56.760
boat actually transporting the dinosaurs to the
place. Originally, Malcolm was going to

2843
03:09:56.799 --> 03:10:00.639
be on the boat trying to sabotage
it. Me about that, Yeah,

2844
03:10:00.639 --> 03:10:01.680
it didn't make any sense. Bielberg
was like, no, no, no,

2845
03:10:01.680 --> 03:10:05.639
no, no, you can't.
It'll take too long to get to

2846
03:10:05.799 --> 03:10:07.559
London. It's gonna be boring.
If all the dinosaurs are and cages in

2847
03:10:07.559 --> 03:10:11.399
the boat. The whole movie California
is way quicker. I went there in

2848
03:10:11.440 --> 03:10:16.280
the Lost World like, so sometimes
a producer can step in and it's I

2849
03:10:16.280 --> 03:10:20.280
guess that's debatable if you think that
I actually think a Resident Evil Revelations style

2850
03:10:20.479 --> 03:10:24.319
Jurassic Park movie sounds cool, but
uh yeah, someone probably should have stepped

2851
03:10:24.399 --> 03:10:28.680
up here and been like, hey, Peter Jackson, we're already in New

2852
03:10:28.760 --> 03:10:31.799
York. We don't need another hour. Yes, yes, we can speed

2853
03:10:31.879 --> 03:10:35.959
this part. Yeah yeah, we
only speed this part up. But I'd

2854
03:10:35.000 --> 03:10:37.479
say check it out. And you
know what else, you guys should check

2855
03:10:37.520 --> 03:10:43.399
out my good friend Clayton. Oh
yeah, well you can find me Clayton

2856
03:10:43.440 --> 03:10:46.600
Furied on YouTube. I talk about
Jurassic Park. I also have a second

2857
03:10:46.639 --> 03:10:50.719
channel called dragon Curb where we talk
about everything. Yes. Yeah, it's

2858
03:10:50.760 --> 03:10:52.360
a very very good channel and I
highly recommend it. Well, thank you

2859
03:10:52.440 --> 03:10:56.159
so much. Very famous Tony.
Yes, unless this is months from now

2860
03:10:56.200 --> 03:11:03.840
and it's now bigger than mine,
in which case I'm sorry. Oh man,

2861
03:11:03.920 --> 03:11:05.719
I hope by the time that's coming
out, I'm finally equally as famous

2862
03:11:05.760 --> 03:11:11.479
as you. You've already are.
Yeah, you've been in cinemasacursal hole.

2863
03:11:11.799 --> 03:11:15.639
The bane of my existence is that
I just feel like I'm never famous enough.

2864
03:11:16.360 --> 03:11:18.600
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2865
03:11:18.639 --> 03:11:24.719
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2866
03:11:26.520 --> 03:11:28.239
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2870
03:11:41.680 --> 03:11:45.799
King Kong the Peter Jackson King Gong
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2871
03:11:45.879 --> 03:11:50.079
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2872
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