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Hello, everyone, Welcome back to
the Fire Escape Pass. It is episode

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eighty five. I'm Mike Maharty,
your host as always. Guess what all

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three of us whoa Dan Reicher,
Mary Kish were a flesh well on a

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zoom call. But yeah, first
time in two three episodes. Yeah,

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they're only Benny and Ben and we
did one with Minati. Yes, yes,

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we all all three of us had
an episode off. Yep, nice

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and evenly distributed there. Look at
us A look at nice vacation structure at

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a corporate company. Yes, and
we haven't been busy. Nothing has happened

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to any of us in that time. Yes, what a relaxing vacation.

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Yes, I'll start with you Dan, how I talked about apparently you and

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for me that I got details of
your surgery wrong. Let me let me

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let me be claire A. I
don't care. B. I was.

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I was talking to Vinnie and Ben
and here's what I told them. I

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told them you were a doing a
deviated septim surgery, which I can relate

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to, but that's part of it. And then B you're also getting like

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sixteen different sinus spots. Okay,
you're you're close ish because it's more that

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it was sinus stuff. And then
also while they were in there, they're

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like, oh, you have a
minor deviated septum. We'll just going to

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you know, pick that a little
bit. That was like the most technically

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the surgery was sinus endoscopy, bilateral
maxillary antrust to me, bilateral anterior ethmoid

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ectomy, nasal septoplasty that's the deviated
septum, and bilateral submucous resection of my

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inferior turbinates. Oh, I said, nasal septorrhinoplasty. That's where I got

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it wrong. There's your problem.
Yes, no, sorry, no,

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they knocked me out and they put
a bunch of knives and cameras up my

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nose into my mouth and just cut
up the whole inside of my head.

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And yeah, that uh, that
was I'd say the worst four days of

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my life are the ones following that
in terms of just physical discomfort. And

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that was really really bad. I'm
I'm not one hundred percent right now,

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but I think obviously I'm up moving
around talking again. I got headphones on

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my face comfortably here you don't have. Yes, what I've headphones on on

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your face is a weird way to
phrase phrase. They're on the sides of

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my face. For audio listeners,
they're on his ears. He's not just

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putting headphones over by that. Yeah, I would have loved if the EMTs

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e nts rather saw like a miniature
version of you in a Wallawigi costume conducting

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your brain when they went up there
was running around, or it's just got

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symbols like the homewern monkey. Yeah, that'd be great. So, Okay,

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what is the recovery time overall,
like two weeks for something like that?

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I think accept thems like a week
or two. I'm over two weeks

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in right now, and so like
that's like, okay, you should be

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able to go back to work.
I just did my first five K again

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today, so I wasn't able to
run for a long time, so trying

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to get back into that. I
still can't swim, still can't, but

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most things I can do now.
It was just the first couple of weeks.

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You just got to make sure you
don't sneez, or if you sneeze,

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you got to sneeze at your mouth, which that is a concept I'd

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never considered before. Was like,
how the fuck do you do that?

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Do that. But then like I
sneezed a bunch because I got a bunch

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of bullshit in my nose, and
you just it just comes out of your

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mouth and that works. Otherwise it's
like I don't know, your head just

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explodes in blood or something. But
there's you can't blow your nose. The

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main thing they tell you is you
can't blow your nose, which all you

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want to Well, that's the thing
is. The mental aspect of this was

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crazy to me because I expected to
be uncomfortable, not being able, like

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I literally cannot breathe through my nose
because like all that inflammation inside your sinus

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is they just got cut up,
so they're all puppy and inflamed. No

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air is coming through the nose period, So I expected that, but you

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can't. Like when you feel stuffed
up up there, all you want to

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do is blow your norse and like
even though logically you know there's it's not

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mucus, it's not snot, it's
not that's not what it's up there.

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It's just closed off. It's literally
just laying around like for hours to being

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like I wish I coul blow my
nose. I wish I could brethe out

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my nose. I wish I could
bring out my nose. I wish I

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could breathe out my nose. And
like, swallowing is really weird because he

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breathed it through your nose. When
you're swallowing, like you're so stay hydrated.

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So every time I took a swallow
water, all these clots would get

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loose, and like just evil black
goo was just coming out of a bunch

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of holes. And it was a
boy. It sucked so much shit.

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I am. Well, we'll get
too the game section later, but I

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did have some good options on the
steam deck, just laying in bed,

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playing a bunch of games on the
steam deck, sleeping as much as I

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could. I didn't like the way
the I think it was vicoing. That

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was the pain meds they gave me
took her for the first two or three

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days, you know, I do. I did not like the way this.

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Okay, this all sounds bad enough. Whose idea was it to add

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Paul Riker in your vicinity onto this? All? Right? I got to

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give him some credit. He is
not historically maybe the most empathetic dude in

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the world. Uh, you know, he very much has love for his

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family and in me as kids obviously, but you know he sometimes his way

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is more give me a shit,
is kind of how he talks to his

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kids and stuff like that. He
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and that Bonk had a trip overseas
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several days, which is the most
important part. So she was here during

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a like red alert, like hey, just make sure you know I'm not

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bleeding profusely. But then it's like
I was looking at it like, oh

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man, it's gonna be like a
week she's gone, and you know,

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like just I don't. I get
very anxious about a lot of things,

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obviously, but health stuff like oh
I throw kind of close up, I'm

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gonna have a bad reaction to something. And my dad did offer to drive

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up and just kind of like be
here for a week, so and he

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was, and there were times that
it was a huge help. There was

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one night where I was, uh, I was watching wrestling downstairs here,

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and all of a sudden, I
just felt like a bubble pop in my

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nose and then just profuse blood like
just pouring out of my face. And

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this is like a weekend, and
I was told like, oh, it's

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kind of concerning if it's bright red
blood that far out, and I've just

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got bright red blood, so prop
just all over me. I hold my

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hands out. It's his blood all
over my hands. I ran upstairs and

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like you know, I go right
into kind of panic mode with something like

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that it's ten o'clock at night or
something like that, and I'm trying to

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get to hold the doctor. And
my dad was very helpful at like,

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you know, while I was on
the phone with the doctor, he was

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getting cleanexes and all this stuff,
and you know, he was so he

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is Paul Record, he is himself
and you know, but he was.

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He was definitely a good help to
have around here. And we had a

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good time. And then you went
to Vegas? That's correct. What was

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what was the for what? So
that was the thing we had planned prior

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to the surgery where it kind of
aligned with like, you know, it

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was my fortieth birthday last month,
and it was also like our wedding anniverse

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for last month's so blank planned a
trip to Vegas and I just got back

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yesterday, and so that was a
concern with the surgery. Was I asked

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the doctor, like, am I
going to be okay to fly and he's

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like, well, it's two weeks
out from surgery. You should be okay.

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He usually recommends two weeks. So
he had me come in a week

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later after the surgery and look at
everything and he's like, yeah, thing

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is healing pretty good. You should
be good to fly. But man,

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you talk about anxiety again, and
like, you know, I have a

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lot of pressure and ear pain and
stuff on flights and just normal flight anxiety

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anyway, So holy shit, Like
the flight out there, just constantly just

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worrying about my ears popping, and
just like it was very very uncomfortable,

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very uncomfortable. But we were able
to go and we had a lot of

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fun there. So she bunk planned
out a bunch of really fun stuff for

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us. So I heard you went
to a place that I've been to that

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I I'm the free Store area fifteen
thirteen Male Wolf. It's like eight different

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things. But the Omega Mart just
the super weird David Lynn's supermarket portal to

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Hell surreal thing. Yeah, that
was That's an interesting thing. It's like

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off the strip. It's just this
weird little complex. You know. We

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talked about the bit, you know, it was several episodes ago, but

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Yeah, it's just a very surreal
thing. I don't want to spoil too

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much of it, but yeah,
you go into a really weird, like

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meta grocery store. It's like just
a really big art exhibit or when they're

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putting together the word immersive was brought
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I'm just like, you can grab
the things on the shelf, you

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can buy some of this stuff,
and then there's just like, oh,

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you walk into the freezer, or
you go into this back little door here,

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and suddenly you're in a fucking tool
you know, album cover or something.

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It's just like weird mirrors and and
optical effects and just rooms filled with

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like it very much felt like just
like one of those games that has very

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detailed environments where you're just looking at
stuff on the shelf and you're just reading

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things and like all this weird stuff
on the on the walls. And it's

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a very hard thing to explain.
And also I wonder how the hell they

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were able to pitch it because it
is a wild and expensive thing that I've

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never seen anything quite like. Yeah, I think like when I did it

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and I talked to you about it
before, Bunk message mean was like,

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I think, is this like the
thing we should do? And I was

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like, this is the thing if
you're in Vegas, this is what I

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recommend. And unfortunately I can't tell
you why. I can't describe it,

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because I think the joy is the
discovery of what's in the freezer, like

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go and see it, and I
think that is what's so interesting about it.

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I have one question that I don't
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like, did you play the game? Like there's like a meta game back

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there? No, is it one
of the things on the screens? Yes?

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Did you know? No? I
saw there were people at a lot

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of the screens, and I didn't
know if they were just you know,

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pressing things. I didn't know there
was like an objective or anything. There

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is there's actually like a game back
there, and there's actors as well.

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Oh really, I saw the lab
coats and stuff like, I did not

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know that. Okay, that's hm, that'd be a really interesting thing.

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I would love to go in there, like if you could just solo and

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just go around and really take your
time and figure it out, Like there's

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there's clearly a lot going on there
that you wouldn't be able to see all

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of it in one visit by any
means. Yeah, I don't think you

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can see all of it. And
I didn't actually partake in the story,

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but my friend did and I watched
her solve it, and you get a

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lot of context of why the space
exists. And it's obviously like all made

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up, like they've constructed this really
elaborate. I don't know it's lord to

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it, and unfortunately I can't get
into it because I think that's part of

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the charm of it. But yeah, the lore, the backstory, the

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actors walking around, it's all to
help feel immersive that you are like in

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this experience, and so I think
it's really neat. I'm really glad you

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experienced it, because it was like
the main thing that I was trying to

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pitch you after I went, which
is like, I think you should see

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it. I think you should go. Yeah, I really do appreciate that.

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I was the thing I kept saying
like during the trip was like I

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love a good gimmick, and like
Omega mar definitely has a gimmick to it,

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and I liked that a lot,
and Bonk knows that I like a

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good gimmick, and so one of
the dinners. It was a couple of

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nights ago. She booked at a
place called Blackout. Have you heard of

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this? No? Oh wait,
the one where there's no visual at all

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and so it increases your other senses. But literally it's pitch black, one

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hundred percent pitch black, or you
can entire meal. It's like a seven

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course meal. And I expected to
be like, oh, it's dark,

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or like, oh, it's the
thing. We're halfway through the meal.

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Oh there was a hurricane or whatever, and now the lights are off.

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It's like no, dudes in fucking
night vision goggles come and get you and

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bring you into like a red room
to start your eyes adjusting. And then

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they bring you into a fucking room. You're grabbing like each other's shoulders and

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stuff and walking in and they have
to like step by step explain to you

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where your actual like glass is,
which I don't know how they're not constantly

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breaking stuff, but like, okay, your knife is over here, You're

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okay to slide your left hand forward, forward, forward, there's your glass,

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and they're just bringing out like seven
courses. The lights are never on.

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You're there for like we're there for
over an hour and it's so weird.

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Like I knew I was going to
try things that I normally wouldn't because

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if you told me what something was, or if I saw it and it

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wasn't something I normally have, I'd
probably be like, I don't know,

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but I'm literally just uh So for
the second course, they were just like,

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Okay, you're gonna reach in front
of you and there's gonna be a

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crispy square and on top of it, it's going to be a spongy circle,

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like, uh, okay, I
don't know what the hell that is.

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And I put it in my mouth
and I'm like, okay, that's

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definitely like a cracker. It's on
it's like an appetizer thing. There's I

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think there's like rice happening here,
but there's a flavor. I don't know

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what this is. There's like a
weird flavor. I didn't dislike it by

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any means, but it was like
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something that like if I saw that
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ordered it. If I saw what
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eaten it. But when I'm literally
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know, I'm much more prone to
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there was like you know, mushroom, gravy and stuff. There were things

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that I probably would not have tried, and I was like, oh shit,

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okay, that was really good.
So really, how you find out

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that you like all sorts of condiments? Yeah? Yeah, in an elaborate

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gimmick restaurant to get me to try
a basic food. Yeah, but yeah,

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it was cool. Like we the
whole time, it's just like,

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what does this place look like?
Like we're sitting at a table, we

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hear people walking around and stuff with
night vision, Like, I have no

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idea what this space I'm in looks
like. You know, I don't know

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what my plate looks like, what
this food looks like. It's a really

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really odd feeling. But it was
a good gimmick for sure. I'd like

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to do that. I've heard of
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idea of having this fully immersive experience
where all you do is taste. You

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probably don't see anything. I suppose
you do you touch it? Or yeah,

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touch it? Like are you touching
the food? Let me ask you

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this, Like when they serve you
a plate, do they put the fork

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in your hand or is it like
always in your hand. I fucked up

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with the first one. So the
very first course, we're like, okay,

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we're gonna give you a bowl and
it is gonna be uh, it's

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going to be wet inside. So
there is a spoon if you want to

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use the spoon to the right and
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was like, I don't know.
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I don't know, and so just
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the menu. This fucking carrot soup
PLoP with my hand. Yeah, sir,

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please don't grab the soup. Yeah, I tried to get a fistful

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of soup. I just use a
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liquid, I'd switched to spoon.
How do you know where they have to

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direct you to the napkin? They
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give you the napkin the beginning,
and then they say like, okay,

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you're your fork and your knife are
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and then they tell you like okay, now scoot it boward scoot a board

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and they make it so you're you
clink glasses with the person you're eating with.

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So that'd be funny if like you, you were using what you thought

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was a knapkin the whole night,
and then afterward they finally told us,

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like that was your wife's hair.
That'd be really weird if I'd be weird.

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Napkin wasn't. Her hair was just
fine with it because the just comes

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in one clothee sheet, Yes,
just to wash your hair every night.

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guess a lot of people wash their hair

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often, but like put it in
a washing machine and close the door,

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just her hair, Yeah, and
then play on the switch. It's on

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a close, closed line. Now
back this bit rules Mary, Where have

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you been? Was it is?
It? Was? It less gross than

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most of Dan's vacation, generally speaking, vacation. I went to Netherlands for

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twitch Con, which was in Rotterdam, but I went to Paris before and

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I got to give a shout out
to Mike who gave me a really cool

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recommendation. I was in Paris just
for two days just to essentially it helps.

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I have really bad jet lag and
so like, the idea of going

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two extra days lets me acclamate a
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But also, who doesn't want to
just hop, skip and jump to Paris

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real quick for two days. So
I went with a girlfriend and while I

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was there posting cute little picks,
Mike was like, are you in fucking

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Paris? And I was like,
I am in fucking Paris and he was

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like, you gotta go to this
bar and gave me a recommendation and it

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was a really cool place. It
was a speakeasy, because I guess I

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wasn't really paying attention when he sent
it to me. I googled it and

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we arrived and there's nothing there,
like it doesn't exist, and I think

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it's a pizza shop, but this
is a bar. So we walked past

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it and we're like, oh,
this is a pizza shop. Keep going,

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there's nothing at the end of the
street. We turn around, we

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keep going, there's nothing on the
end of the street. And then two

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guys were like, you're looking for
the speakeasy, aren't you, And I

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was like yes, and they were
like, going to the pizza shop and

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just go through like the working door
verbatim what I told her to do.

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For the record, I wasn't paying
attention and then I walked through and we

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just like ignored. There was a
dude like make a pizza, and I

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just opened the door and there was
a little hidden speakeasy back there, a

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really nice bar, well decorated,
amazing drinks. The bartender was super knowledgeable.

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The drinks were weird. They all
had like foam or one of them

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was served with a sweet cookie.
They all had like a It was kind

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of gimmicky, but very well done. I loved it, and so did

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my friend Alyssa, who went with
me. You also like a good gimmick.

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I love a good gimmick. I
like it. So it's so this

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place is called Moonshiner. If you're
in Paris, it's in the eleventh because

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Mary, you told me where you
were staying. I was like, oh,

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you're one neighborhood away. You got
a DeVito pizza and then when you

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walk in there's just a padded leather
It looks like a walk in freezer door

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and you just open it and you're
there. It just doesn't seem like something

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you should be walking into. Like
it got wrong. But that was literally

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what to do. Uh, it
was a great little hidden thing. Had

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a good time. But that'd be
a really good prank to do everything,

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to just tell someone exactly that and
then make the walk and then walk says

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employees. Only walk to the back
and give the finger to the cook.

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He'll know what you mean. Yeah. Then they'll let you in. Then

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call the police, and that's when
you gotta like take the tomato sauce and

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rub it all body show I'm the
fucking lizard king, and then dive into

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the toilet. But Moonshiner's drinks are
actually I thought were really good. They.

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I think speakeasies can be overly gimmicky
these days, but I like moon

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Chiner. It's been there a bit. I'm glad you went, Glad you

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had fun. But then you went
to Rotterdam. Went to Rotterdam for twitch

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Con. Had a good twitch Con. Nothing amazing. It was just a

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really good con. Two days of
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And then as soon as that finished, I went to Majorca, which

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is an island Spain, so Spanish
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I was so tired. Usually we
all understand this, it's like it's like

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having a vacation. After e three
you're just so damn tired. You're ready

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to be home. Yeah, the
first day or two is kind of a

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wash. All I really wanted to
do was sit at the pool and like

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be fed crackers or whatever it is
I could consume at the time. But

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my Orca is known for having really
beautiful beaches. I was pushed into a

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car several times where we got to
see these stunning beaches. But my one

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of my favorite memories is is we
were with a group of five and the

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ring leader, the person who did
most of the organizing of the event,

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was like, do you want to
do a boat tour or a cave tour?

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And we all were like, let's
do the cave tour. That sounds

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interesting, you know. You know, you pick one, and she's really

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excited about it. She's kind of
been hyping it up, and she's like,

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it's a really cool cave tour.
These caves have been around for a

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really long time. I got these
reservations long in advance, and I'm so

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glad I did because it seems like
they really book up and this seems like

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a really amazing experience. We're all
really stoked, and we're on the highway

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and everyone kind of like sees this
crazy thing in the distance. It looks

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like a giant lizard butt and we're
just like, what the fuck is that?

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And as we get closer and closer, it's a giant dinosaur a long

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neck, not real giant, fake
like huge huge, like probably like to

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make bonus dinosaurs are still here,
so we're all like kind of laughing about

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it. You don't usually see a
giant dinosaur off the highway. And then

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our turn is coming up and we're
recognizing that the turn is really close to

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the brontosaurs, and we're like,
oh, what's going on here? And

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as we turn in, it says, welcome to the Jurassic Park Experience.

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Whoa wait, is it licensed?
No, it's a fucking bootleg Jurassic Park

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experience in my Orca, in Spain, in Myorca. There's like a weird

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off brand. Get hands in there. Yeah. I immediately put on the

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theme song for Jurassic Park as we
go into this parking lot and recognize that

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this is a dual experience. One
half is like a dinosaur themed park for

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kids, I think, and the
other half is a Cave tour and it's

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a real it's a real cave,
Like it's a real cave with real stalagtites

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and slagmites, but it's it's in
the same park as this fucking Jurassic Park

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tour. Are there dinosaurs in the
cave? They did not put fake dinosaurs

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in the cave. They should just
merge at that point. It's seriously,

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at that point, I was so
sold because we were we were dying at

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the idea that this is happen.
This had happened, right, Like,

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how did we get here? Why
are we thought? We were like going

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on this like really nice, incredible
cave tour and they're selling Bronto burgers and

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all these like it's essentially like a
fried chicken sandwich, but they're like it's

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a copy. Uh you know,
like they're they're doing like all this language

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of Jurassic Park themed items to eat
raptor burgers. Yeah, it was fucking

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hilarious. Anyway, the cave tour
was actually more normal and there weren't any

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dinosaurs at all in there. They
didn't put in one of those rollie balls

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from a Jurassic World. I wish
once you once you go down that path.

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They even had the doors, you
know, I'm talking about the oh

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really Jurassic Park. I want to
say it was called Jurassic Experience like they

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al, Okay, very slightly.
I'm guessing the font was the same though

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it was literally the same pot ect
just dinosaur Land. It looks like Jurassic

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Adventure Park, cave in Jurassic Adventure
Park, Jurassic Majorca. Okay, oh

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wait, it's part of Royal Caribbean
Cruises or is this just to stop where

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they stop? I mean, I
don't know. I wasn't on a cruise,

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but I mean actual for global audiences. But the actual theme park that's

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showing up a mappage is called dinosaur
Land. Did Royal Caribbean co opt it

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as a knockoff Jurassic I'm just looking
up Jurassic Spain Island and I'm not getting

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anywhere. It's just a dinosaur,
a dinosaur like dancing Jurassic Adventure Park,

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cave in beach. That's the one
that's it. Okay, that's on the

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Royal Caribbean Cruise website for some reason. And I think what's also really interesting

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about this is that there was nothing
about Jurassic Dinosaur anything on the cave tour

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that we booked. The cave tour
was come see an ancient cave that was

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discovered hundreds of years ago and learn
a bit about the history of my Arca,

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which we were all like, that
sounds great, but it was in

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the fucking Jurassic Park. These are
just full on animatronic, big ass dinosaurs

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that is just straight up the one
from Jurassic Park. I think they wow

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copied Jurassic Park and then they were
like, oh, actually, I think

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the caves came first. I think
somebody was like, oh my god,

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there's some fucking caves down here,
and they started with that, and then

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they were like, our cave numbers
are dwindling, and someone was like,

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I've got it. We're going to
make Jurassic Park around it. They have

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jeeps with the fucking Jurassic logo on
the side, just like in the movie.

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It is ripped. Wow, I
respect it. The the Bronto Burgers,

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the Raptor Burgers, and like the
Compi chicken sandwich was really it was

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like the icing on top of it. It was just so funny to like

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have like a dinosaur themed sandwich.
Do you go to the Raptor cafe.

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They have dinos for coffee. Oh, here's I got the menu for the

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dino burger. Oh okay, so
we got chicken rocks with barbecue, but

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fries, I looked, okay,
so I got overy the ear. We

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had the dino bravas fries. What
is that? Potatoes mayonnaise and Brava sauce.

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What the fuck? Bronosaurus fries fries? Yeah, Jurassic salad. I

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don't know what drasque about that.
The burgers, it's just yeah, this

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is bread and chicken and lettuce grass. It has alfalfa, you know,

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the most dinosaur of whatever that is. You got a raptor burger, a

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Titano burger, a t rex burger, a Gali mimas burger, triseratops berger,

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Pompey, the little guys. Oh, the galamimuses are compies. Okay,

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got it. There's raptor sauce.
Oh what is that? Baby?

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The barbecue chili mao serachimeo and raptor. Oh, Raptor sauce equals mustard and

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honey. Oh that sounds good.
Actually everyone knows that. What I know

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it now? Damn this one looks
awesome. I know it was it was

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just a really I have a video
of it. There's a really funny uh

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I should post it. There's a
really funny video of all of us slowly

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coming to the realization that we are
turning into Jurassic theme park instead of this

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cave tour that we thought. And
as I play the Jurassic Theme Park music,

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we go from like weary and a
little like we felt like we had

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been like tricked or something like that, and everyone was like, oh,

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what's going on to let's fucking get
up at Burger. We basically like converted

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from like I'm not sure if this
experience is gonna work to let's let's fucking

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enjoy this. Like so we're doing
like Game of the Year and the Raptor

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Den there right. Yeah, I
think we should all go to Majorca and

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in the Raptor Den talking about infinite
wealth next to a bunch of raptors.

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I think all get killed. That's
that's the that's our dundoko dundoko. Yes,

405
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:48.680
that's awesome. That's another good gimmick. Sounds like we're all back now.

406
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.079
Have some great travel stories. You
guys have Spain and France and everything,

407
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.039
And tomorrow I'm going to Oklahoma.
So next episode, I'll have some

408
00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.599
great, wonderful exotic travel stories for
you from Oklahoma. I'm saying I had

409
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.799
a farm Airbnb. Any wine tastings, No, I don't think wine will

410
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:08.240
be allowed at this wedding. Oh
really No. The groom only eats chicken

411
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.599
tenders and my dad will be present. So yeah, I don't think it's

412
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:17.680
gonna be a very wine type of
wedding. Okay. Oh alcohol, Oh

413
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:22.559
there will be alcohol, yeah,
but heavy wine. There might be wine,

414
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:27.240
I don't know. There might be
types there, fermented beer with grapes.

415
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.119
It's a pizza buffet for the food, which I'm excited about. Is

416
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.480
it really? Yes, on a
farm, pizza buffet on a farm,

417
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.960
Yeah, in Oklahoma. Yeah,
next to a rodeo. Okay, this

418
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:44.880
keeps getting better. It sounds like
a very Oklahoma wedding. Sounds can I

419
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:45.759
come? Do you have a plus
one? Come on by? My dad

420
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:51.440
will love it. I'm sure he
would. Anything you post from France and

421
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:52.920
send it to my dad and he
hates it. I know. I'm sure

422
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.799
I'm just like specifically trying to annoy
him with my posts. Good good,

423
00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.960
yes, Oh yeah, I already
told people about my trip last episode.

424
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:03.880
I'm trying to think if there's anything
like Dan and Mary that I need to

425
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:07.680
convey about the clip. Goddamn of
Venny's so funny. The clip I saw

426
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.920
where you asked about the cheese cart
stuff, like how many times have you

427
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.759
had that? How many times do
you think? Like just say, Hanson

428
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.039
space, just like what the fuck
are you talking about? Did you watch

429
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:19.599
the rest of the clip. I
also said that was my first cheese cart

430
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:23.960
ever. That's why I asked,
okay, okay, no, was that

431
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:30.319
my first cheese cart? Wheel?
Up Dan at the Partner Lounge, we

432
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:34.599
had a cheese girl. A cheese
girl, not two thousand and five anymore,

433
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:40.200
Mary, We can't really she was
made of cheese. She was made

434
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:45.319
of cheese. She was cheese and
whatever whatever you wanted, she procured the

435
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.079
cheese. And was it like the
old e three Nintendo DS girls where the

436
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.680
cheese was like handcuffed to her and
you had to like weirdly eat it in

437
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.160
front of her. I don't think
that we were torturing this girl. I

438
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:02.160
think that she was a cheese enthusiast
that had several types of cheeses, and

439
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:07.480
her knowledge of cheese was really good. So she told cheese cheese, mongrel,

440
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:22.119
mongril, mong GIRLNGL girls crashes through
the wall at your Oklahoma wedding Rodeo

441
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.480
pizza buffet. So was it like
a like a whole like assortment of like

442
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.680
a bunch of different plates of cheeses
and stuff that the girl had. She

443
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:34.559
had cheeses behind her and then when
you were like, I want like a

444
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:41.119
bouncer for the cheese. When you
say behind her picture she was guarding the

445
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.039
cheese and then she could bring down
the cheese and slice the cheese. Okay,

446
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:52.880
she's carrying the cheese with uh sticks. I don't know. I don't

447
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:57.079
know if I can, don't make
me lie, I don't. I don't

448
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.119
remember all the facets of the cheese
girl. It was like a board of

449
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.160
cheese, and then she would pick
out the cheese and slice it and give

450
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.880
it to you. She's cutting the
cheese, like do you have a moment

451
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:11.079
to talk about Jesus? While she
was not a religious cheesemong girl, cheese

452
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:17.480
girl talking about Jesus's man Girl,
my favorite comic superhero. Cheese man Girl.

453
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:23.440
You're talking to you about the Saviors. She's her superpower is Jesus Christ.

454
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.400
She's actually not special at all.
It was in the partner lounge.

455
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.400
I just thought it was interesting because
it was like it's like kind of exclusive

456
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:40.039
thing that only partners could getese.
You could go upstairs and get some cheese

457
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:45.000
from the cheesemong Girl, Wow,
you guys have good snacks. I went

458
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.200
went to your game awards where you
guys had that Twitch party and you had

459
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.279
some robic sliders and stuff going on
there. Every once in a while,

460
00:30:52.720 --> 00:31:00.200
I feel like we'll pull out the
stops and it's cool. Is your that

461
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.000
sounds good? Depends on her cheese. I would judge her based on the

462
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.079
selection. Well, I don't know
if they like were her cheeses. I

463
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.920
feel like she had rented the cheeses
from the cheese. You're gonna rent well

464
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:18.039
to return it. It's like a
block. I've exhausted all my knowledge about

465
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:26.839
the cheese. Girl. Wow,
Mike your fucking face when he said so

466
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:33.519
proud was very fucking excited about it. Oh boy. Well, with the

467
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.839
sphere, that thing was cool.
What was a big expensive orb with the

468
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.720
outside looked like when you got there? What was it? It looks different

469
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.640
when you're up closed, especially during
the day because we went around like noon

470
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.759
and like you can see kind of
the mesh aspect of it, like you

471
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.759
can tell it from anywhere kind of
far away, especially night, it just

472
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.839
looks like it's this unbroken screen,
but we get closer to it, like

473
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.720
there is a mesh element to it, which it was a fucking nightmare.

474
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.279
This was yesterday or two days ago. We went there and it was like

475
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.839
noon. It was one hundred and
eighteen degrees and not heat index one hundred

476
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:08.160
and eighteen straight up degrees and you
look like noonish sun straight down on you.

477
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:12.880
And it said that the things started
like eleven thirty or something like that.

478
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.240
So we show up and there's a
huge line and it's the fucking thing

479
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.759
costs two billion dollars or whatever for
the spear. They couldn't have a tarp

480
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.319
in Las Vegas to protect the people
in line from the sun. You have

481
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:27.880
to wait outside. They had Bianca
throw away her water, right, it

482
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.720
is like was it? I think
it's just like, yeah, you can't

483
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:31.480
bring it in, like you couldn't
bring it into a theater or something like

484
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:35.599
that. It was weird about open
water because they're afraid it's like acid.

485
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.880
Yeah, yeah, sometimes they weren't
performers. It was a screen and so

486
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:43.359
oh god, it was uh we
heard on the walkie TALKI someone like passed

487
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.720
out. They were like elderly people
there and stuff. It was just like

488
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:50.359
a nightmare getting in. But once
you're in, like every aspect of even

489
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.359
just like kind of the design of
the place, and it's like, cause

490
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.480
I've been in a million arenas for
like wrestling stuff and everything, it was

491
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:59.200
just like this, everything was so
much more considered than like a standard arena.

492
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:00.880
Every arena it looks like concrete pillars, concrete floors, you know,

493
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.599
the same concession stands and everything.
Here the floor has this weird reflective quality

494
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.759
to it, so it almost looks
like you're looking at, you know,

495
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.240
an ac arena time when you go
to fight dark Link and it's like that

496
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.559
water kind of everything's kind of reflective. It looked like that in there,

497
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:15.680
but like dark and like kind of
purplely and stuff. And then I didn't

498
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:21.000
realize that it did like wind and
vibration and smells and all that, and

499
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.039
that could sync up with the presentation. We saw the Aeronofski movie thing,

500
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.240
but the grate Poul Dead was playing
like at night and so god knows what

501
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.920
smells or whatever they're shooting through there, but it is it's the craziest shit

502
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.960
I've ever seen as far as like
a screen and technology. It's sixteen K

503
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.359
screens that are just completely surrounding you. Crazy speakers you've ever I heard that,

504
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.720
Like they're doing UFC there, and
they can do things where it's like

505
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:46.440
they could directionally have like the English
announcers going towards one section of the audience

506
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.119
and the Spanish going to the others
with no headphones or anything. It's just

507
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:54.640
directional audio. Like It's it's wild
shit there, but very very impressive.

508
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:59.039
Yeah, can I ask you,
like, as someone who likes concerts but

509
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:04.920
really is not well with flashy strobe
light things, sure was their refuge if

510
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:09.400
the dome were to be flashy,
Like what would you do? Uh,

511
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:13.239
It's hard to say because like,
yeah, the thing I saw was just

512
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.599
like a forty minute movie. It's
basically a nature movie and so it wasn't

513
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.159
a lot of that. And like
I've seen footage of like the YouTube concerts

514
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.159
and some of the Grateful Dead stuff, it kind of looks like it's just

515
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.000
a bunch of stuff on the screens, but like I'm sure, I'm sure

516
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:29.159
they're doing lights and stuff because they
set up a stage down there. I

517
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:30.880
don't know if it'd be much more
than normal concert because otherwise it's just like

518
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:35.159
it's like a big ass imagine like
the biggest Imax screen you've ever seen.

519
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.800
You know, it's not like that
is flashing in your face like crazy.

520
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.280
It's a lot though. I mean, like my ears were still pretty sensitive

521
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:44.679
to you know, sound is just
vibrations, and so there were parts where

522
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:46.679
things were just like booming sound and
I was like, oh, fucking like

523
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:52.199
you can't really escape that. So
but that's a specific case, but it

524
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:54.960
very very impressive. I'm not a
big concert guy in general, so like

525
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.440
I don't really know who I would
see or want to see there. But

526
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:00.079
like I was talking to Yank about
like, you know, she likes Tool

527
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:02.639
a lot, and Tool that's a
ton of like visual stuff and everything.

528
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:09.280
Like I'm sure I would love to
see Tool. She said she was in

529
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:14.840
the sphere. In the sphere,
I would believable they would do such a

530
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.719
good job. Yeah, to you, there's something I would see there,

531
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.000
But it's just a marvel of technology, Like no doubt about it so Antara

532
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.800
in the sphere. Oh my god, any metal show in the sphere.

533
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:30.280
So people are always like you gotta
see you two in the sphere, and

534
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:35.239
it's like fucking why so I can
like hear Bono like cry from above.

535
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.360
I don't really want that experience.
And I wish I Prince and David Bowie

536
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.440
were alive for a bunch of reasons. Of one of them is I bet

537
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:44.880
they would put on a good spear
show. I agree that would be a

538
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:50.159
good spear show. The Beatles.
I saw their sole show while we were

539
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.880
there. That was my Firstle show
and that was incredibly impressive. I know,

540
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:58.639
we just did like the Beatles.
The Beatles show, it's amazing.

541
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:04.119
I saw doing flips the whole time. Yeah, Ringo, he doesn't do

542
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.920
anything. Ringo literally doesn't do any
tricks. No, no, Ringo.

543
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.360
When they bring in the ramps for
the inline skaters, that's all Ringo.

544
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:19.000
Yeah, he's got a fetish.
Just let the man be. I'm a

545
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:23.960
ramp, That's what he says.
Many fingers. Oh no, not my

546
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:30.039
feet, my bunny button, stop
tickling it. My balls with the skates,

547
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.119
the bottles of the skates. Just
a little ramp boy, you forgot

548
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.400
your breaks? Are you gonna stop
something stuffed too? It wasn't me,

549
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:45.960
It wasn't This is a stupid so
dumb impressions. But I just like the

550
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:51.679
idea of Ringo, Like Ringo's cank
is like being rolled over a ramp at

551
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.000
a circasilatio. Help people watch you. It's a good show, like,

552
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:58.320
especially for people who like Beatles music. You get to hear a lot of

553
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:02.519
the good class and they're flipping and
throwing each other up in the air.

554
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.719
I think it's it's entertaining. I
think I saw it when I was my

555
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.639
for my twenty first birthday present,
my dad uh took a trip with me

556
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:14.880
to Vegas, and I saw The
Beatles Show when I was twenty one,

557
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.679
and I loved it. Yeah,
it's going it's about to close, like

558
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:22.360
very very soon and so but it's
been going since like the late nineties basically,

559
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:27.639
so apparently. Yeah. Yeah,
I went saw like over a decade

560
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.760
ago. It's crazy. Yeah yeah, And they've got a bunch of different

561
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:32.159
So they got a Mike Michael Jackson
certain sole show. They got like a

562
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:36.119
water one that we want to check
out. But yeah, we went to

563
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:37.719
saw the Water one. He did
not care for it. Oh really,

564
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:44.400
Oh our like picky about stuff like
that. He likes the one critic where

565
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:47.480
there's like a giant board and the
entire board does like three sixty degrees.

566
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:51.400
They climb up the board. I
saw it's up turning. That was the

567
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.480
one time I've seen search disay.
They were at Ah, that's cool.

568
00:37:53.719 --> 00:38:00.400
Huh. The problem with like water
based sports is like you can't I't really

569
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:06.480
see what's in there. I also, this is so odd that this is

570
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.039
happening. But I also realized so
when we went to Paris for the two

571
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:13.599
days, I went to the Moulin
Rouge show. You know, it just

572
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:15.519
seems like you're there. It's a
bit gimmicky, but why not. And

573
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:20.719
yes, there's like nudy booby girls
everywhere, which is very entertaining, and

574
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:29.360
I loved it. But then out
of nowhere they raised a giant water tank

575
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.960
from the fucking ground up, and
they had this whole gimmick of like this

576
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.079
girl running on different sides of the
stage and getting blocked by guards, and

577
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:38.960
we were all like, she's good
at job in the water. We all

578
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:44.119
know she gonna fuck jump the water. And she eventually jumps into the water.

579
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:46.880
Everyone in the audience is freaking out
because it's really neat. She goes

580
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:52.159
to the bottom of the tank,
she pushes up. She does have nudy

581
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:53.639
booby, so that like that was
cool and that was going on. But

582
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:58.800
then she like just kind of did
the same move where she like floated from

583
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:00.760
one side of the tank to the
others side of the tank. Besides the

584
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:08.239
fact it was like a lovely water
rack, I didn't see any really interesting

585
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:14.280
things under the water that you know, you can't see your average person,

586
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:17.039
you know, circling and flipping and
pushing off of the bottom. She just

587
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:20.719
did everything everybody else. You can
float in water, you can float and

588
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.800
not water no, I mean,
I mean like it was just something anybody

589
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:29.960
could do in water. Like she
was just bouncing around under there. She

590
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:35.360
wasn't doing anything really difficult. I
guess, yeah, water makes a kind

591
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.599
of Water's kind of an equalizer.
Like I can do a flip in the

592
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.280
water. Anyone can. Anyone can
do a flip in the water, right

593
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:45.920
like you were seeing you see really, I would say not athletic people in

594
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:52.320
the water. They're just like incredible. They're they're flipping around, they're spinning.

595
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.480
We're all, we're all, we
all float down here in the water.

596
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.199
It's just a move. You're just
turning anyway. I didn't think it

597
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:04.960
was great. To me. That
was like the clincher where I was like

598
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.119
that O show underwater. That can't
be good because this lady had boobs out

599
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:12.199
and I wasn't impressed. Yeah,
I don't think they do boobs out in

600
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.679
search of l a. I don't
think so. I don't think that's their

601
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.719
thing. I went to a comedy
pet show. I saw a dog ride

602
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:28.679
a horse. Now that I got
to see very similar vacation. Watched a

603
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.760
bunch of naked girls underwater, and
you watched a dog ride a horse.

604
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.559
I went. I went to a
mentalist show. What's that I need someone

605
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:40.239
to like cross stitch the footage of
me talking about my vacation in France last

606
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:45.199
week and you talking about your Vegas. A dog ride a horse? Saw

607
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:53.039
Rico Sergon was nuts rolled over.
I had some really good cat I ate

608
00:40:53.119 --> 00:41:00.480
in the dark. I going to
the market in the morning for some local

609
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:17.599
produce. I thought sixteen boobies perfectly
uh very in sint listen sacronize boobies counterclockwise,

610
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.400
just wait to Loklahoma. That's gonna
be the real wild chip. Yeah.

611
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:27.239
We're having very different summers. It's
a weird summer. Yeah. I've

612
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:32.079
enjoyed mine, Yeah for the most
part. Yeah yeah, minus the surgery.

613
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.199
Yeah yeah, but I feel like
I'm getting past that. So uh,

614
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.960
I got I have a couple overseas
trips coming up to coming up soon.

615
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:45.039
So yeah, can you through my
mouth? Okay, so you can't

616
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:46.880
seize right now? Hold on a
second, like, okay, I've sneezed

617
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:52.719
through my mouth my whole life.
What like, Like, I don't I

618
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:57.679
don't involve, Like I don't go
through Where do you feel the air come

619
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.079
out my mouth? Oh? Then
you're that's weird. That's not how you

620
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.000
do it. But I don't think
that's I think that's kind of normal.

621
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.480
It feels better having sneeze out of
my mouth for the last two weeks.

622
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:09.719
It feels better coming out of your
nose. Next time to sneeze, just

623
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:16.079
cover your mouth, Okay, I'll
try. What if he dies, can

624
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:21.760
we be arrested? No, because
the first time someone's oh my god,

625
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.199
jail. I do feel like even
when you sneeze through your nose, your

626
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:28.920
mouth is involved. Like I'm picturing
sneezing while holding my mouth shut now and

627
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.400
I think my head might explode.
Yeah, my whole life, I've sneezed.

628
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.599
Most of the forces come out of
my mouth, like my throat.

629
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.239
It's so much more interesting out the
nose because you're not just doing something,

630
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:44.559
but there's stuff there, like you
got to do this, and then it

631
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:47.079
just shoves out. It's nuts.
I sneeze out of my mouth and then

632
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:50.599
like it's run so like, and
then I just blow my nose afterward,

633
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:55.679
if I can blow the whole load. Oh, actually, we're on the

634
00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:07.679
topic of weird things much better since
you guys took a vacation. Let me

635
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:09.199
ask you this. If you're around
the house and you don't have socks on,

636
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:13.000
and then you discover you have to
leave the house, so you have

637
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:15.360
to put shoes on. Yeah,
obviously you have to first put socks on

638
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:20.199
if you sit down. Okay,
okay, okay, say it's a situation.

639
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.280
No, no, I'm saying,
if I need to go to the

640
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.360
mailbox, I've got some like sketter
slip ons, I'm socks on them.

641
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:30.920
You have to go to like the
grocery store, I mean slip onsh.

642
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:35.880
It's not a sketcher slip on.
Whatever situation you need to get bread,

643
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.719
damn, whatever situation you would need
to put socks on and then your sneakers.

644
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.079
Just imagine this is that situation.
I don't done that many times?

645
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.519
Yes, okay, Oh, what
I have to go to, uh the

646
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:51.039
theatre? Put on socks. I
mean, like I went for a run

647
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.000
today, I put socks and then
shoes on. But like I need to

648
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:58.239
go get a prime at the gas
station, I'll fucking just slip my feet

649
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.960
in there. Guy goes to one
blind Taste and then a Beetle show and

650
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:05.880
suddenly he's hoity toy. Gas stations
are four no, because primes have treasure

651
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:07.480
maps now, and I'm one piece
away from one in a million dollars,

652
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.719
So I gotta sometimes go to the
gas station and find some prime. X.

653
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.840
If you're sitting down and you have
to wear socks with your shoes,

654
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:20.480
and you're going straight from bare feet
to sneakers, but what do you do

655
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:22.800
do you I'm trying to figure out
how to question this, so I don't

656
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.159
lead you as witnesses. So you're
saying, if you are barefoot and you're

657
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.480
going into sneakers. Yes, but
you're also going to be wearing socks.

658
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.679
What is the order of operations when
you sit down with the socks on before

659
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.920
the shoes. They were bit over
the shoes. No, no, no,

660
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:37.159
no, no, that's a good
see. That's why it's weird.

661
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.639
This is a stupid question. Do
you go sock shoes? Do you go

662
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.360
put it one sock, bow socks, bow shoes. Okay, thank you,

663
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:46.679
Mary. What is sock soxs shoe, shoe, sock, sock,

664
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.159
shoe, shoe, okay, thank
you. Because we're all normal people,

665
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.800
I discovered that one of my brothers
goes sock and then that shoe, and

666
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.519
then the other sock and then that
shoe. No, what you do is

667
00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:00.599
you put one pant leg on,
one sock, one shoe, pant leg.

668
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:04.719
Then I realized as soon as I
got into it, was like,

669
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:06.719
this is not a fun bit.
It's not even a bit. I just

670
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.400
actually discovered my brother goes sock right, sock right, shoe left, sock

671
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:15.320
left. Is what we actually discovered
through this bit is that Dan goes to

672
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.599
gas stations to buy prime to get
a puzzle piece, but he can get

673
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.840
a million dollars list. It's not
just me. Me and two of my

674
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.039
friends are doing this and we're coordinating. If I am the keeper of the

675
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.760
Man, I am the Keeper of
the America. We have all the pieces

676
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.039
but one. We're close to a
million dollars trying to get this one puzzle

677
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:37.119
piece that doesn't exist. We're going
to rob Logan Paul of a million dollars.

678
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.679
I love how. Oh my gosh, if anyone has the number eleven

679
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:45.239
piece of the prime ex treasurer map, let me know and I'll split the

680
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:46.960
money with you. I love how. Like a month ago, Dan was

681
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:52.360
Logan Paul's biggest fan, because probably
then they get one lawsuit and he's like,

682
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:53.239
oh, I didn't never like that. This was a bit. I'm

683
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:58.119
just trying to rob him. That's
it. I don't don't you see my

684
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.239
maps. We haven't up for a
glitch elixir right now. You get points,

685
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:05.079
so even if you don't win the
million, you get all sorts of

686
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.559
fun. You get a cyber tech, you get all these uh it's it's

687
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.199
very fun. And then we're gonna
win a million dollars. Oh, it's

688
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:13.559
in the Treasure Verse. You go
into the Treasure Verse and you have to

689
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:20.199
log in at the beginning. Uh
uh, Now it's a website. I

690
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.079
signed to add for this on wrestling, and I was like, I want

691
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:24.360
to win a million website. But
weirdly it brings up something else when you

692
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:28.079
get to go to the website,
it brings something out of the app store.

693
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.880
I don't know. It's really weird. You guys when I was gone,

694
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:36.559
when Mark Manatti stepped in for me, you guys us the app don't

695
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:37.760
look at my map. Look at
my map. I'm just missing the middle.

696
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:42.440
That real estate in the middle is
the Star Wars Jedi Survivor Hologram mask

697
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.920
map. Yeah, what are you
missing? Eleven? It's the number eleven

698
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:53.000
puzzle piece or the find these pieces
under the caps of Prime x so like

699
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.400
it could be anything. You got
enough points for a tech te and a

700
00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:01.079
pixel cap. What are those?
That's theme hat? Yeah, and then

701
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:04.960
rare Prime bottles itself for like three
hundred dollars on eBay. I like,

702
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:09.280
in your quest to rob nursery at
a Prime warehouse distribution, it won't be

703
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.880
around, but they like in your
quest to be arrested for something in your

704
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.800
mission to rob Lorgan Paul, you're
not only spending a lot of giving him

705
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.880
a lot of money. You and
two friends. You said, right,

706
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.639
you're also talking about it on a
podcast that gets a decent listenership. Yeah.

707
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.599
Yeah, so your mate also there. We're drinking it a lot.

708
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.840
And also he's now denied. One
of my friends is now denying his child

709
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:32.719
to flavors he wants. He sent
me a picture of an end cap of

710
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:36.480
Prime and he's like, I didn't
expect to have to explain to my son

711
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.960
that we can't get all these other
fun flavors because they don't have treasure maps

712
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:44.000
on them. Is this someone I
know? Yeah? Is it someone?

713
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:50.599
Is it someone every we all know? H one is industry that you worked

714
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:53.480
with, and the other is a
friend of the group. Yes, interesting,

715
00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:55.920
okay, yeah, yeah, it's
good. It's good. We're gonna

716
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.360
win a million dollars to split it
unless someone out there has the number eleven

717
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.960
piece and then we'll split it four
ways. What would you spend your three

718
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.360
hundred and thirty million on three hundred
and thirty three million? No, no,

719
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.480
no, not very exciting. I
just put it into the mortgage.

720
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:15.599
Yeah, yeah, that's boring from
logan, Paul. I'm gonna I'm gonna

721
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:20.360
pay off my House from Logan Paul's
money, Paul gonna help you, But

722
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.119
yeah, it doesn't help here.
You guys, you guys, you guys

723
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:29.719
went at it. Mary came out
guns blazing rather for just annihilated people.

724
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:35.039
Mary wacious the episode. I wasn't
here. Oh oh, Mary was on

725
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:38.239
one that night. Jesus Christ,
it was. I still think about that

726
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.960
insult. I think it's one of
the best off the cup insults I've ever

727
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.000
heard of my entire life. I
think about that, that you're not important

728
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:51.440
enough to be this in Wing is
just incredible, fantastic list I was listening.

729
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:52.920
I think I was in France when
I was listening to that, and

730
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:55.960
I laughed very hard. It's funny
because I think I was trying to be

731
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.719
like, especially diplomatic in that episode, and that's what you decided to bite

732
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.480
my head off. Yeah, I
didn't realize. I didn't realize I was

733
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.679
such a meat shield for both of
you to not go at each other's throats.

734
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.079
No, this had been building up
for a long time, and even

735
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:19.840
Dan's like diplomacy is honestly targeted harassment. Yeah, you can't not break balls

736
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:30.039
even when you're being diplomatic. Oh
no, my bulls. Those wheels are

737
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:42.880
so hot. Something else it's about
a hot I get it. Guys.

738
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:47.119
Do you want to talk about video
games? Sure, Mikey Dan, I've

739
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:52.280
been traveling a lot, and between
the travel, gaming, working, and

740
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:58.519
this podcast, there's a lot to
juggle, and I've needed something that helps

741
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:02.639
me keep my focus. And I've
really enjoyed Magic Mind. It's basically like

742
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:07.320
a mental performance shot, which allows
me to stay mentally clear, motivated,

743
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:13.800
and productive in times of stress or
there's just a lot going on. It

744
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.159
has been really helpful. I've been
drinking it all week, Dan, What

745
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:19.960
do you think about it? I
like it a lot because you know,

746
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.920
a lot of times, not all
the podcasts I do are at night like

747
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.039
this one. Sometimes I got to
get up and first thing in the morning

748
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:27.880
be on a show or a stream
or something, and I like being focused

749
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:29.960
and awake. But sometimes, you
know, I'm anxious guy. I don't

750
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:32.039
want to get too much caffeine in
my system. So having something like Magic

751
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:36.519
Mind, which will give me that
focus but also not kind of like overstimulate

752
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:40.000
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758
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:05.199
got back from seeing my family for
the fourth of July. It's our big

759
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:08.360
blowout weekend we have every year.
And contrary to what some people might tell

760
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:12.760
you, wine goes really good at
barbecues. I got some cabiny Fronc going,

761
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.599
I had some Surrah. Everybody had
a great time. I love sharing

762
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:17.920
wines with my family, particularly new
ones they might not have had. That's

763
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:22.840
why First Leaf came in super handy. A lot of stuff pairs really well

764
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:24.440
with barbecue or if you just want
some like Vimeo very day to crush in

765
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:28.519
the hot heat. It's great.
There's something for everybody. And Dan,

766
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.760
I know you've been getting into it
as well. Well. Yeah, well,

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769
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com slash fire Escape. All right, Dan, I'm gonna start with you

777
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:17.159
because you said you were playing a
lot of Steam Deck Mobile games while you're

778
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:23.360
out of commission. I also am
curious. I believe he talked about Hollow

779
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:29.760
Night when huh I was out.
Sounds like you're sort of coming around on

780
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:34.320
that. Well, I'll start with
that because that's probably the main well it's

781
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:38.519
been that inerd Tree and I beat
Hollow Night. I am doing postgame stuff

782
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:43.440
now. I'm got the completion ticker
and all that stuff, so I'm like

783
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:45.280
seventy eight percent technically, but I'm
doing the kind of like arena stuff,

784
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:49.719
trying to find all the lost charms. And things like that. Arena's really

785
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.920
fun. Yeah, it's been cool. So it's also it's such a fucking

786
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:54.719
perfect Steam deck game, and it's
I've heard it runs great on the switch

787
00:52:54.800 --> 00:53:00.920
to It is up there among the
think I said this last time, all

788
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:07.079
time Metroidvanias. It's it's like that
list is you know, Symphony the Night,

789
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:10.079
It's Super Metroid, It's this,
it's I think the New Prince of

790
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:15.320
Persia. I mean this belongs in
that conversation I think of, like that

791
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:22.320
top top tier and it is.
I was fifteen hours in and I suddenly

792
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:25.239
got a new item we play.
Are we recording? Is this a part

793
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:30.320
of are we in? Yes?
Yeah? Oh sorry the podcast we do?

794
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:32.679
Oh good? Yeah? I thought
I don't really talk about new games.

795
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:37.960
We're not recording? Yeah, yeah, cursor Oh no, no,

796
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:45.320
no, this is we're doing it. Yeah I thought you were. You

797
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.039
were teasing us. Oh no,
that'd be a lot, Mike. We

798
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.719
don't talk off Mike. Yeah.
So at one point I got a thing

799
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:58.000
fifteen hours in that it said you
got the Monarch Wings and I'm reading the

800
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.559
description like what wait, this is
the double Jump And somehow I was like

801
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:07.639
fifteen hours into a metroid Vania like
I normally am like in every Metroidvaniam,

802
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:08.239
like when do I get the double
jump? When do I get the double

803
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.519
jump? You know? And this
one, like there was so much other

804
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:14.840
stuff going on and other cool abilities
and stuff I was playing with and everything

805
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.199
that I somehow that part of my
brain turned off, and then I was

806
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:20.840
like, wait, I just got
a fucking double jump. And then I'm

807
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:23.119
just thinking about the entire map and
all these times that I was like I

808
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:24.960
couldn't get to that, I couldn't
get to that, and I'm waiting to

809
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.079
get something. I don't know why. I just totally blanked on that,

810
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:31.000
but that opened up the game like
crazy. And then one of the things

811
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:35.280
that had frustrated me the whole game
that turned into be a plus for the

812
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:37.159
game is, you know, the
backtracking and things like that that I was

813
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:43.320
like frustrated by at first. But
then as I did find myself kind of

814
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:45.880
like backtracking a lot and just looking
for like, oh, where do I

815
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:46.840
go next? I don't know where
to go, I got to know this

816
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:51.119
map better and I felt like it
was becoming my own journey more than if

817
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:52.039
there's just a blinking dot on the
map that is like, oh, now

818
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.599
I go there. You know,
like I really do feel like I was

819
00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:59.519
learning that space in a really cool
way, and that made every shortcut and

820
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:02.440
everything more meaningful. And then you
get the fucking dreamgate thing where you can

821
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:06.199
just like make your own fast travel
point and it's like, well, that

822
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:08.440
fucking changes everything. Now I don't
have to worry about oh, that's pretty

823
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:14.599
far from the stag station or whatever. It's really tremendous. I think the

824
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:17.039
really cool thing about Hollow Night is
how it really taught us all on this

825
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:22.159
podcast about how, you know,
even if somebody could be stubborn, and

826
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:24.199
even if somebody could uh you know, dig their heels in, you know,

827
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:29.679
some people can overcome that and become
bigger people and better people and really,

828
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:34.000
uh deserve a lot of praise.
And here I'll use the word hero.

829
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.679
I'll use the word hero. And
and people that come around on games

830
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:38.800
that they were once stubborn about,
I think are the real winners and the

831
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:43.320
real heroes in this situation. And
if you want to go ahead and tell

832
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:45.800
me that, I would, I
appreciate that. I think I am a

833
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:50.840
hero for digging my I talked about
myself, myself I'm not listening to you.

834
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:55.079
I absolutely was so stubborn that this
game was tremendous, and how wrong

835
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:59.320
you are and how stupid you.
I've never disagreed, how much you embarrassed

836
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:05.159
yourself episode after episode after episode.
Also such a good streak. I also

837
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:09.679
we're doing very well that I am
a hero for just pushing this game on

838
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:14.119
you. I don't think you it
is a good game, and I agree,

839
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:15.679
and so I'm so glad that we
had this conversation. I actually feel

840
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:20.480
really vindicated by this, and I
agree, hero me, thank you.

841
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.039
This was great. I feel really
good. I don't think you can prove

842
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:28.159
you've said anything on this podcast about
it. I believe you that you liked

843
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:30.400
the game. But I did this
in my own volition, So yeah,

844
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:37.360
get back. I will let me
admit something here. My fucking thing about

845
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:40.519
it looking like a flash game,
I realized why that is, and I

846
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:45.519
think it was stupid on my part, because there was a game called Alien

847
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:49.800
Hominid on the PlayStation two and I
think the game Cube, and it was

848
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.320
based on a flash game, and
you're like a little bug alien looking dude,

849
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:55.360
and it's got these really thick lines
and stuff like that. And I

850
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:59.960
think when I saw Hollow Night,
it made me think of Alien Hominid,

851
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.920
which was based on a flash game, and so that became the talking point,

852
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.320
like like fave k Max. But
then it's like, no, wait,

853
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.599
it just looked kind of vaguely like
Alien Hominid's art style. Uh,

854
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:14.519
And it was a very reductive view
of that. So I am a big

855
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:19.239
person for seeing past I past me
mistakes. You are really stupid with that

856
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.280
judgment call, and it's just been
so validating to hear you say both that

857
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:28.559
you are stupid and that the person
who dug their heels in aggressively about this

858
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:30.440
game was a hero. I think
that's super true. No, I dug

859
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:34.000
my heels in when I say it
was bad, but then I was the

860
00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:37.119
hero for seeing it's good. Listen, I'm a gaming professional and I can

861
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:43.480
see quality when I see Yeah.
Next, do you think given your reversal

862
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:47.079
both of us had the reversal on
Death Stranding, now you've had the reversal

863
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:51.199
on Hollow Night. Do you think
I know where this is going? I

864
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:54.719
know. Do you think you'll give
Renda a chancead? No? I think

865
00:57:54.800 --> 00:58:00.039
I'm a big person for being able
to look at past opinions and maybe I

866
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:04.679
should try to again and reconsider this, and maybe it's not always gonna interview.

867
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.559
He's just gonna change his mind in
six months and then say that he's

868
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:10.519
smarter because of that. You didn't
know. It's a win win thing for

869
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:15.880
me. It's great ship he's always
been. You just couldn't deny it anymore

870
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:19.960
anyway. Red Dead or not,
you piece of shit, it is Red

871
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:23.480
Dead and like, look, honestly, no bit here. I think I

872
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:28.559
played it under not great circumstances and
trying to rest through that game. That

873
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.920
was a review Death Stranding and uh
a review Read Dead too, but it

874
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:35.960
was like an early It was a
review Courage prior to release, so it

875
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:39.360
was deciding it was for content and
embargo. I was trying to finish it

876
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:42.519
so I could be part of the
conversation on the podcast. Do you think

877
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:45.320
you'll you might say, if you
get like a month where things are light,

878
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:49.840
you might take I just can't fathom
having a light month, Like I

879
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:52.159
just can't imagine having that much time
for a game that long. But I

880
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:57.519
am open to the idea that my
negative opinions on Red Dead Redemption two were

881
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.360
largely due to the circumstances waiting for
it. I love that game with all

882
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:02.960
my heart, but I don't have
a ship. If you like it or

883
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:06.960
not, I'm not. I don't
need you to validate my opinions like Mary

884
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.559
does. So I just, yeah, choose the villain in the story.

885
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:17.440
But basically that's right. But I'm
also right about games. The moral of

886
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:24.280
this story is that I am really
stubborn and I was fucking right. Oh

887
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:28.000
one other thing, Red Dead isn't
that good, So I don't think you

888
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:34.119
have one other thing. Too long. It's very long and slow. Mary.

889
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:36.599
I love that you wait until I
was gone. It was the episode

890
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:38.760
with the Minati where you admitted that
sometimes you argue just to argue, even

891
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:42.840
if you don't even care about your
stance. I was like, you waited

892
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:45.360
until I was gone to admit this, finally, when I've been saying this

893
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:50.840
on Knievel and the fire Escape and
game Spot for years, I have morals.

894
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.920
I argue vehemently for things I believe
in. Thank you. I just

895
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:59.440
want to watch the world burst.
Yeah, that can happen too, I

896
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:04.239
believe eMate Lean Hollow Night. I
remember, I remember distinctly being at Twitch

897
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:07.519
headquarters in San Francisco years and years
and years ago. I think I was

898
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:09.320
there were Abby, I think it
was there like a Game of the Year

899
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:13.519
thing, and you were showing us
around. I remember you were in the

900
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:16.280
midst of your Hollow Night addiction and
just going off about how much you loved

901
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:20.480
it. And that's when I tried
it afterwards. But I had a lot

902
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:22.440
of people tell me, like a
lot of people, the way they talked

903
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:23.559
about it. I remember rus fresh
Tick was huge on and like lots of

904
01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:25.199
people being like, oh, it's
on switching now, you gotta try it,

905
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:30.480
and like, man, I I
don't know. I guess I just

906
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:35.079
didn't give it enough time. I
got too frustrated by the backtracking, by

907
01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:37.639
you know, losing progress in kind
of like the map areas and things like

908
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:40.800
that, or getting into a dark
area, and you know, the marker

909
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:45.320
system was a little weird, but
it was trying new things that other metroidvanias

910
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:46.559
had not done, and I think
I wasn't ready for it at the time.

911
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:50.920
And as I played more like the
Souls Born games and stuff like that

912
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:53.119
and more different types of you know, metro Vanias and stuff, I was

913
01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:59.039
more open to it this time,
and I very much appreciated repertoire of like

914
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:02.760
games that you respect and understand.
I agree. I mean playing a Soul's

915
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:08.159
game changes you, and it gives
you a fondness and appreciation for losing.

916
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:13.519
I don't actually think. I think
before I was playing Souls games, I

917
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:16.239
would quit a game if I lost
everything, because I'd be like, what

918
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:21.239
do you mean I lost all my
money? Yep, I earned that took

919
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:23.639
a long time, it's gone.
Like that would make me quit a game.

920
01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:31.559
Souls games have changed my perception of
losing everything. Rogue Lights have changed

921
01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:37.360
my perception of losing everything. It's
just life. You'll get another one.

922
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:40.960
Like the massive changes in just how
we view things. And I'd say in

923
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.599
the last like ten years between,
like I guess more than that now,

924
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:46.440
but you know, roughly, let's
say a decade of like Rogue Lights and

925
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:52.440
Souls Born games becoming such a force
in the industry and those progress. Yeah,

926
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:54.280
and those concepts, A lot of
those concepts, even like in a

927
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:57.639
Hollow Night, like to heal,
there is that animation you have to like

928
01:01:57.760 --> 01:01:59.719
charge it up, but to get
your health whatever, it's not just like

929
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:02.360
in you know, yeah, it's
the risk reward stuff. And everything and

930
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:07.000
major risk and like losing all of
your your what's it called, your geo

931
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:10.239
and your currency and this it adds
a lot to it. And like those

932
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:13.440
boss fights are fucking awesome, and
like there were times where it's like,

933
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:15.559
I know I'm about to walk into
a boss fight, but I've got you

934
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:17.079
know, three thousand GEO and I'm
like, ah, I gotta go find

935
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:19.960
someplace to spend this. I don't
want to risk this, and you like,

936
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.360
walk into the boss fight was zero
GEO and I got nothing to lose

937
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.000
and fucking do this. Yeah,
I love that it was geo. I

938
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:29.639
have a I have a vivid memory
when I was in the midst of my

939
01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:35.079
Hollow Night craze, playing it with
UH on a plane and I was sitting

940
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:38.320
next to a coworker and my coworker
was like, can I can I try

941
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:42.639
it? And I had, you
know, I had like nine hundred GEO

942
01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:45.280
and I was like, yeah,
so this was early, right when nine

943
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:49.679
hundred was like a shit ton,
And he's like, yeah, I mean

944
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:53.519
I guess you could give it,
give it a try, and he immediately

945
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:57.239
dies and he's like, well,
I'll just go back to your body.

946
01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.880
And then I'll hand it back.
And I was like, yeah right,

947
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:04.320
I'm watching him with bated breath.
He fucking gets killed again and loses all

948
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.159
my geo and he's just like,
ah, say lovey and gives you my

949
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:10.440
little steam, like gives me my
little rock. And I'm like twitching a

950
01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:20.280
little bit to Rob Handley. It
was I guess, oh okay, it's

951
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:24.199
really funny that you would assume it
was Rob Hanley Robbie funny, Like god,

952
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:27.440
damn it. Rob would do it
and then it would be a comedy,

953
01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:30.320
be like, whoops, you're dead, and then he would get it

954
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:37.519
back to you. Whoops. Sorry
Dan. Did you also did you try

955
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:39.800
a case of the Golden Idol?
Oh? Yeah, yeah, I beat

956
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:43.639
that a few weeks ago. That
was That's awesome. Now I'm super fucking

957
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:45.320
excited for the new one. Like
a new one, so I'd be excited

958
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:49.239
for anyway, but like with a
setting that I find more interesting, like

959
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:52.400
you know, it's seventies detective instead
of like satchel times, you know,

960
01:03:52.679 --> 01:04:00.199
like you described doubloons and poky swords. I don't know whatever time, the

961
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:04.880
medieval for sure, old, yeah, yeah, pre trains. You know.

962
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:09.840
Glad you played it have been pre
trains. I'm glad I didn't waste

963
01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:12.239
any breath telling you play it in
twenty twenty two. That would have been

964
01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:16.880
annoying. Did you did you really? Are you serious? Dam We just

965
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:21.559
I do not remember you ever talking
about this game. You have probably told

966
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:25.760
you to play it. No,
you're thinking of grub Oh my god,

967
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:29.719
No, I'm not doing this,
Dan. You actually if you don't remember

968
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:31.440
this, you I don't remember this. You have a problem. Are doing

969
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.400
too many podcasts? No, my
memory is bad. I understand that.

970
01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:42.039
I legit. Don't remember you ever
saying this when you had we gotten email.

971
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:47.119
We gotten email specifically saying have you
ever recommended something to someone and then

972
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:48.679
they didn't play it? Or whatever? It's like, Yes, Case of

973
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:50.400
the Golden Now twenty twenty two,
I said it was one of the best

974
01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:54.320
games that year. I must not
have been on that episode. Oh my

975
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:57.400
god, Mike. If somebody put
a gun to my head before this recording

976
01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:00.920
and said already ever said the phrase
Case the gold Nidol, I would have

977
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:02.320
been like, I don't know.
He pushed it really hard on Dan.

978
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:06.199
When you Dan, what you say, you did a bad job. You

979
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:11.480
have a problem. Listen. I've
taken so many recommendations from you. You

980
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:14.960
mustn't done a bed. This is
on you, no, Dan. When

981
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:16.400
I first pitched it to you two
years ago, I said, it's kind

982
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:18.639
of like logic Problems and murder misters. Oh You're like, oh shit,

983
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:21.079
I love logic problems. Then you
never played it, and then Game of

984
01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:23.760
the Year came around. You're like, oh, I never got the chance

985
01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:26.280
to play it, and I was
pushing it, and then like two episodes

986
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:29.159
ago, that email came in and
I said it and you're like, oh,

987
01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:30.960
this is perfect. I'm going on
a bunch of flights soon. This

988
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:33.559
sounds like a perfect scene. Oh
wait, wait. The reason I fucking

989
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:36.079
cause a lot of times we'll talk
about games on this show, and in

990
01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:39.599
my little notes document at the top, I will write down, like,

991
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:43.360
download this game, download that thing. And I remember typing in case of

992
01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:45.960
the Golden Idol because I heard about
it on this show. But I'm pretty

993
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:50.880
sure it was Mary. So in
our last recording when it was just you,

994
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:55.599
me and Manati, you said who
recommended this? Was it you?

995
01:05:55.719 --> 01:05:59.159
Mary? And I said, oh
yeah, as a joke, Oh no,

996
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:00.320
I thought it was you. And
then you believed me. I've been

997
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:03.000
in my head just thinking like,
oh Man, good recommendation for Mary.

998
01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:09.440
You do too many podcasts. Yes, I know it's a problem. Wow.

999
01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.239
Well no, Mary, it was
a great recommendation. I really enjoyed

1000
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.920
that game. Thank you, Hollow
Night Case the Goldennil. You're just nailing

1001
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:17.800
it two for two. Mary.
What have you been playing. I've been

1002
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:25.280
playing a dungeon crawler that uses a
claw machine and it's called Dungeon Claller.

1003
01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:32.880
I don't pissed me off. I
love claw machines and this game is delightful.

1004
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.440
I don't know if you remember me
telling you about a little game called

1005
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:41.920
Peglin which was a Pegglan because you
recommended it and said it was good and

1006
01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:45.880
about it too. Yeah, that's
right. This is my new fucking crack.

1007
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:55.440
It is an RPG where you're going
through a dungeon and you get enemies

1008
01:06:55.559 --> 01:07:00.599
turn based the claw you control.
But we all know with claw machines sometimes

1009
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:04.079
you try and pick up stuff and
the claw does what the claw wants.

1010
01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:09.639
If you pick up knives, you
throw the knives at the enemy. You

1011
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:14.960
can also pick up shields that gives
you defense, and then as you continue

1012
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:17.760
to play, you build your deck, and the things in the claw Machine

1013
01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:23.800
are your deck. You can have
giant swords that do like fifteen damage or

1014
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:26.679
twenty damage. There's some really cool
stuff in there, Like there was a

1015
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:30.280
sword that does ten damage, but
if you only pick up that sword,

1016
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:33.599
it does twenty damage, which is
really rad. They have like armor,

1017
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:41.119
they have just really weird stuff that
alters the entire concept of how you could

1018
01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:46.719
pick stuff up. There's metal objects, and there's sorry i'm thinking about it,

1019
01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:50.000
a magnet, and the magnet picks
up things that are metal, but

1020
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:54.360
all the shields are wooden, so
the magnet won't pick up the shields,

1021
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:58.119
and so you have to be very
strategic how you pick things up. They

1022
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:00.800
do a water thing where they can
fill the tank with water. Then you

1023
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:04.119
can alter the water and you can
turn water into lava. Crazy shit.

1024
01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:11.280
All of that just now on Steam
Deck. It's super rad. Now this

1025
01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:15.840
game is an early access. This
is very important. When I played it,

1026
01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:19.039
it's not polished yet. It's phenomenal, like the bones are there.

1027
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:24.520
It's a good game, but it
doesn't have all of the cool sound effects

1028
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:27.960
yet. And I don't think this
is out on anything except for the demo

1029
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:32.760
on PC. The demo is extremely
replayable. I think I played as four

1030
01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:40.479
different protagonists and they all have completely
different skill sets, kind of like when

1031
01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:46.479
you do a run in Bilatro.
It fundamentally changes the game forever. Yes,

1032
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:50.079
when you play as a different character, you have to completely change your

1033
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:54.640
play style. The game rams up
in difficulty quickly. I have yet to

1034
01:08:54.760 --> 01:09:00.840
beat it. I've gotten really far, but the difficulty late game is no

1035
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:05.960
joke, and so I have I
keep dying, but it's it's so lovely.

1036
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:10.800
The mini games too, which Dan, I think you get a kick

1037
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.159
out of some of these mini games. There's like lots of little things.

1038
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:16.359
There's one that's pegl ish. I
was gonna ask. I'm looking at images

1039
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:18.720
and like that looks like PEG.
That looks like a gumball machine. That

1040
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:23.439
looks like a claw game. Yeah. Yeah, it's just super enjoyable.

1041
01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:29.439
You guys like this this game is
uh, it's candy. It's candy for

1042
01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:31.560
me. Like it's super addictive.
It's all the stuff that I love.

1043
01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:35.680
I love Claw machines. I I
swear We've talked about this, but like

1044
01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:40.760
I go out of my way to
play call machines. I keep quarters on

1045
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:44.560
me at all times to play claw
machines produce a quarter right now, I'm

1046
01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:48.199
a freak. Well I have not
I have a Okay, you think there's

1047
01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:54.760
gonna be a claw machine. You
gotta be prepared for anything. This kind

1048
01:09:54.760 --> 01:10:02.640
of looks like a flash game.
M this does sound fun. Here's my

1049
01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:12.600
Pikachu butt purse. Any quarters in
there? Okay, Okay, that looks

1050
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:17.920
like Spain money. Yeah, they
don't have holes in Yeah that was Spain

1051
01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:26.600
money. That was Jurassic Park Spain
money. Yeah. This is the Bano

1052
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:33.079
buck. Those Raptor Nichols has a
queen on it. These are Raptor bucks.

1053
01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:36.720
You got me? Those are stegat
times. Anyway, I think this

1054
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:40.640
game, oh I do have quarters? Fuck you too late, too late,

1055
01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:45.880
no way to prove it. Lost
my capacity for being impressed well after

1056
01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:53.000
me lying to you guys. Anyway, going back to Dungeon Caller, I'm

1057
01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:55.760
very much looking forward to it.
This game is supposed to come out Q

1058
01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:59.640
four of this year. I think
it's going to be. It's on my

1059
01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:01.119
list. Is like a game I
can't wait to come out now and I

1060
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:08.840
didn't even know it existed. You
can play the the demo for frizzle and

1061
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:14.119
I played it for several hours and
loved it nice, thank you. So,

1062
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:16.039
yeah, that sounds like something like
remind me when you see it come

1063
01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:18.520
out, like the full game,
because that sounds like something I'd probably like

1064
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:21.840
to check out. I'll let you
know. Mikey, you've been playing the

1065
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:30.239
Elden Ring. What are you crazy? Yeah? Nothing that no one else

1066
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:33.960
has said to add there? How
are you not far into the DLC?

1067
01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:42.239
Okay? I I think I Back
in eight April March, I told you

1068
01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:44.800
I had restarted with a new character
just because, oh sure, just to

1069
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:47.680
play through more of the game.
I've done one boss in the DLC.

1070
01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:51.560
That's about it. I switched over
to some other stuff that I could talk

1071
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:56.000
more about. But yeah, how
far are you? I've done like everything.

1072
01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:58.439
I'm just at the last boss now
and beat my head against it.

1073
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:00.479
Difficulty wise. Are you having a
tough time with the DLC? Are you

1074
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:05.119
finding it like what you expected?
I'm fine, But I also like every

1075
01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:08.640
time I get to a boss,
I do one play, you know,

1076
01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:11.960
one session, just trying it out
myself. I die immediately, and then

1077
01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:15.319
I summoned dudes and I just played
super cowardly, So like I don't know,

1078
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:18.840
I don't have any like like I'm
gonna knock at the help or whatever,

1079
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:21.800
Like I will fucking summon people like
crazy, Like it's like a player

1080
01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:26.800
multiplier. Yeah, two players to
like do the work for me basically,

1081
01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.760
and I'll sit back and I'll admire
the patterns and the tacks and everything,

1082
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.199
and but I'm just total coward back
there. So it's just for me.

1083
01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:36.279
It's a fun game just to play
for the sif me in the world.

1084
01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:40.640
Yeah, I know, it's it's
it's fucking awesome, Like I I love

1085
01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:45.640
that. That is it's the most
important. I normally don't play DLCs at

1086
01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:47.720
all. This one it was clear
that the scope of it was going to

1087
01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:50.720
be beyond most like DLC, and
sure enough, Yeah, it feels like

1088
01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:54.560
a full fucking game. It was. It was great. It's probably the

1089
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:59.159
best delC I've ever played. Yeah, it's I mean, I'm not far

1090
01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:02.199
enough into it. I think for
me, my favorite is Blood and Wine

1091
01:13:02.399 --> 01:13:05.760
for Witcher three, although there's some
fallout ones I liked a lot. I

1092
01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:13.319
liked I loved Witcher's DLC. It
was so the story was so enjoyable.

1093
01:13:13.960 --> 01:13:15.279
Yeah, also, like the Witcher
three, most of the world was that

1094
01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:18.960
like war torn wilderness, and then
you get to blood and wine and there's

1095
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:23.159
these like poppy fields and flowers and
it's colorful as heck. I loved it.

1096
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:28.560
What was the Fallout three DLC?
They three like five great ones,

1097
01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:32.039
like the Alien one. It had
the pit, it had comration anchorage,

1098
01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:38.760
okay, and then there's the big
one, the actual new open world,

1099
01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:45.079
which was like Maryland, the lighthouse, five a harbor, fairly substantia substantial

1100
01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:50.399
ones Fallout three DLC. It was
the operation, anchorage, the pit right

1101
01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:56.680
broken steel point, leathership is Zeta. My lookout was the one I was

1102
01:13:56.720 --> 01:14:00.880
talking about the lighthouse and then and
whatnot. No, but I actually another

1103
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:06.760
game I'm playing a lot is let
me turn this off? Uh, Diablo

1104
01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:11.239
four, I went back to,
Oh, why, what's your motivation?

1105
01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:15.239
I just want to know. I
only got here. So it came out

1106
01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:19.279
last year. I only played three
hours or so with a druid lost interest.

1107
01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:23.560
I didn't feel like the loot.
I felt similar to how I felt

1108
01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:27.039
when Diablo three first came out,
which I still kept playing Diablo three to

1109
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.439
be clear, but I didn't feel
like the loot was actually impactful. I

1110
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:34.279
never felt like my character was getting
those noticeable jumps where I went from it

1111
01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:36.840
was having a semi difficult time.
All of a sudden, okay, I'm

1112
01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:42.199
overpower for this area. Feels great. The game's satisfying, it's crunchy,

1113
01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:45.560
it's you know, I got these
abilities. The synergy between them is really

1114
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:49.760
rolling. Now I got a lot
of loot that was not meant for my

1115
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:55.520
Druid. I got, you know, like the the open world wasn't the

1116
01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:59.359
rewards weren't great. But they're in
season four now, loot reborn. They've

1117
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:05.199
added a bunch more options to actually
manage your loot and add modifiers to it

1118
01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:10.680
that can feat that can fit your
character more. It just generally they kind

1119
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:14.119
of it's been going through the same
evolution that Diablo three did in its early

1120
01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:17.680
years, and I'm frequently getting to
points where I pick up all of a

1121
01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:20.119
sudden, they get a legendary scythe
for my necromancer, and all of a

1122
01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:23.800
sudden, I'm just wrecking people left
and right. Where I was kind of

1123
01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:26.800
not a slog It was still fun. But before that, you know,

1124
01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:30.000
me and my skeleton army were kind
of whittling away at dudes. All of

1125
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.079
a sudden Now with that scythe I
had that power jump that I missed from

1126
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:40.319
Diablo threes like Prime, I'm level
thirty five the Necromancer. I think I

1127
01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:43.199
put six hours in this character.
Maybe not that many, but I'm already

1128
01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:46.159
loving liking it a lot more.
I'm playing a PS five, which I

1129
01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:49.000
think is also I thought I would
just go back to PC, but I

1130
01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:51.479
have it on PS five. I'm
getting ready. They're adding a new class

1131
01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:57.439
and they're adding like a whole postgame
new area Jungle DLC in October, so

1132
01:15:57.600 --> 01:15:59.079
that was kind of part of it. I was like, well, that

1133
01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:01.279
sounds fun. I've like some siblings
asked me to play with them, so

1134
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:05.279
I'll go back. And it's just
night and day. Like the loot system

1135
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:11.479
feels way more focused, honed in. I'm frequently getting a ton of stuff

1136
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:15.199
that is just you know, like
helping that power fantasy, and it's liking

1137
01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:18.560
it a bunch man. That's that's
making me want to try it, because

1138
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:21.279
like every time I hear about that
game, I know it wasn't like super

1139
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:24.800
highly regarded when it came out.
I know there are a lot of complaints

1140
01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:27.319
about it, but I still like
that was the game I was looking forward

1141
01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:29.680
to trying, and it came out
like right when I was in the middle

1142
01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:31.680
of moving, so I didn't have
like any of my like gaming PC type

1143
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:33.840
stuff at already, so it's like
I'll get to it autterwards. But like

1144
01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:39.039
that was it was like street Fighter
six, Diablo four was during that time

1145
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:42.199
where it's just like I didn't really
have a chance to play. Like now,

1146
01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:45.439
hearing that they've improved some of that
stuff and that you're enjoying it,

1147
01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:47.000
that that does make me want to
try that. Yeah, and that stuff

1148
01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:49.560
has gotten me through those early hours. And now I'm to the point where

1149
01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:53.640
you know, I have mounts,
I have pets, I have like that

1150
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:56.840
are actually gathering stuff for me.
I have a system. Whenever I log

1151
01:16:56.920 --> 01:16:59.399
in, I checked to see what, like what has gone, what happened

1152
01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:02.760
since I was away. I've again, I'm getting more and more of these

1153
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:06.520
weapon modifiers that they added with season
four that you can use to tweak weapons

1154
01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:12.479
you already really like, which like
these temperaments. I believe you go to

1155
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:15.399
the Blacksmith and you basically are picking
up these scrolls in the open world just

1156
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:17.880
randomly, and one of them is
like, hey, apply this to your

1157
01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:24.600
weapon, and you have a chance
to get like life on kill or whatever,

1158
01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:28.039
and there's like eight tiers that you
could get. It's basically RNG.

1159
01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:30.880
And then all of a sudden,
this scythe I have that has two diamond

1160
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:33.479
two topaz is in it, that's
already ranking my damage up twenty percent more.

1161
01:17:34.399 --> 01:17:38.520
And plus the scythe is making this
one ability that I summon a bone

1162
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:41.479
gollum with, and then another ability
that have blood spears with. It's making

1163
01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:45.479
both those abilities better. Suddenly that
scythe has also giving me like three hundred

1164
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:49.279
health on kill. It's much more
of a I think the pacing feels much

1165
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:57.079
more like the steadily increasing power fantasy
at Diablo three. I like it a

1166
01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:59.680
whole bunch. And then once you
beat the campaign with a character, you

1167
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.760
can do basically I think it was
adventure mode in Diablo three. When you

1168
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:05.119
start a new character, if you
want to try another class you can go

1169
01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:09.359
in. You just it drops you
literally right into the open world. Oh.

1170
01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:13.439
You just start exploring towns, getting
the way points unlocked, finding side

1171
01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:17.159
quests. It like I meant to
play it just kind of as a palate

1172
01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:20.439
cleanser from elden Ring just to get
my mind off Elden Rings. I'm playing

1173
01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:24.319
that straight for the last few weeks, and again a sibling wanted me to

1174
01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:26.720
play. I was like, oh, I haven't tried it on console.

1175
01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:30.079
Let's see how they integrated it.
And I all like, flash forward to

1176
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:38.159
my character's level thirty five and I'm
pretty hooked. And also like, I'm

1177
01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:41.560
not. I don't want to get
too deep into the season pass stuff.

1178
01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:45.039
The addition of the game on PS
five I got gave me like access to

1179
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:47.960
a premium battle pass. I hate
interacting with that kind of stuff, but

1180
01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:51.159
I will say that some of the
free tier of the battle Pass, some

1181
01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:56.640
of the cosmetics it's giving me are
really cool looking Like Season fours right now

1182
01:18:56.720 --> 01:19:00.760
has a very Mortal Kombat feel to
the cosmetic theme. It looks a lot

1183
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:04.600
like I forget which character it was, I might have been riding from Mortal

1184
01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:08.960
Kombat Won. The most recent was
that the most recent Mortal Kombat. H

1185
01:19:09.239 --> 01:19:11.439
He has a skin in that game
that looks a lot like what they're going

1186
01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:15.439
forward this season of cosmetics. Yeah, overall, it's just it feels like

1187
01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:23.079
they really turn that game around.
Not to say that there are still some

1188
01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:28.920
annoyances like I still wish it was
easier to compare certain items. Most items

1189
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:31.399
you get and I'll say, oh, yes, a green plus twelve damage,

1190
01:19:31.479 --> 01:19:33.760
I know I'm going to equip this, or plus one hundred and forty

1191
01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:36.640
nine armor. I get that when
you pick up jewels I have not.

1192
01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:40.920
Maybe this is just a PS five
problem I haven't played on PC. There's

1193
01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:45.680
no easy way to compare what these
jewels are going to do because the jewelry,

1194
01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:48.640
the amulets, and the two rings
you can equip have such more specific

1195
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:54.079
stat base changes than the weapons and
the armor, which is like x more

1196
01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:58.880
armor or resistance or x more damage
or life on kill. I wish there

1197
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:01.159
was an easier way to compare jewel
because I do spend a decent amount of

1198
01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:04.439
time back in town, granted after
things have cooled off, but like,

1199
01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:08.960
okay, now, okay, swap
this ring out for that one. Oh

1200
01:20:09.039 --> 01:20:12.279
my damage went down twelve. Okay, remember that seven hundred and ninety eight

1201
01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:16.000
damage. Now swap this one out
again. Maybe on PC, I'm sure

1202
01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:19.800
that's way easier because you have a
mouse. But outside of that that,

1203
01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:24.960
it feels great on PS five.
It's nice to sit on my in like

1204
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:30.439
a comfortable chair. It's like I
associate Diabo three with like borderline carpal tunnel

1205
01:20:30.479 --> 01:20:33.399
syndrome on PC and whatnot. See, I didn't have in until like Diablo

1206
01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:36.000
three had that PS four version,
and it was like, ooh, they

1207
01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:39.960
really did a good job with like
these radio menus and like rolling with the

1208
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:44.560
right stick and all that felt great
with controllers. They the workaround they found

1209
01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:46.640
for same screen co op where you
pick something up and you can use the

1210
01:20:46.720 --> 01:20:49.439
dpad to go back. It'll just
have a little the widget at the bottom

1211
01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:53.079
that cycles through without actually going to
the pause menu, and it'll tell you,

1212
01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:57.520
oh, nice, that was great. That's not here. As far

1213
01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:00.199
as I know, Diablo four does
not have same screen co op, but

1214
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:05.479
into like jumping into games with my
brother has been super easy. It feels

1215
01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:10.119
great on PS five, which is
a weird thing to say, but like

1216
01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:13.039
it's just the right amount of screenshake. There's a lot of good feedback.

1217
01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:16.920
When I'm a necromancer, blowing corpse
explode is the iconic necromancer ability I think

1218
01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:20.960
from all the diablows, like it's
it's just so satisfying. Okay, I

1219
01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:24.159
killed them, Now I have another
corpse to blow up, and that's going

1220
01:21:24.199 --> 01:21:27.479
to a chain reaction. It's I
love such a satisfying game in the current

1221
01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:30.560
state, and I'm already I'm already
kind of looking forward to the new class

1222
01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:33.479
they have coming out in October.
I'm glad. I want the new class.

1223
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:42.479
Uh so jungle something. Let me
look it up. It's like,

1224
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:49.319
uh, the spirit Born, so
funnily enough, you just shoot Brono Burgers

1225
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:55.840
out, all right, So basically
they're making it so I think the it's

1226
01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:58.800
called Vessel of Hatred is the the
big expansion, and it's once you beat

1227
01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:02.560
the campaign you go into this.
People are already hoping it's gonna be like

1228
01:22:02.640 --> 01:22:05.800
the Reaper of Soul's moment for Diablo
four, where it just makes it the

1229
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:09.920
ideal version. Maybe not the ideal, but you know, an even bigger

1230
01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:15.279
jump. But so far, the
spirit Born gives me heavy witch doctor vibes

1231
01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:18.520
from Diablo three, which they definitely
took pains to distance themselves from, because

1232
01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:24.239
a lot of people call it out
as stereotypical of voodoo and you know,

1233
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:28.960
like shrunken heads and whatnot. Spirit
Born looks like it's tied to it's got

1234
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.039
a jungle theme. I don't know
how much they're going into that, but

1235
01:22:32.520 --> 01:22:36.760
it's just after, you know,
reading so much about these five classes and

1236
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.720
different builds you could do with them. I'm just excited for any six class

1237
01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:45.720
to be added see how they actually
do with it. But yeah, yeah,

1238
01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.439
if I mean, that'd also be
a fun game just for if you

1239
01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:54.720
guys wanted to casually jump in and
play with new characters, it'd be super

1240
01:22:54.800 --> 01:23:00.960
fun. I would like it's been
a while. I loved Job and got

1241
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:04.079
mega into it. Diablo four I
played and then I felt like I was

1242
01:23:04.119 --> 01:23:10.520
done really quickly. Would love the
ability to the excuse to get into it

1243
01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:14.439
again. Yeah. Yeah, it's
super fun. I'd recommend it if people

1244
01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:16.680
want to check it out before it
gets the big expansion in October. I

1245
01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:20.880
think it's in a good state.
There's so many more my new show that

1246
01:23:20.920 --> 01:23:25.079
I didn't get into with the loot, specifically because I don't fully understand it,

1247
01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:26.680
but a lot of people are saying
like, oh, yeah, this

1248
01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:30.840
weapon modifier helps a lot, and
managing loot is so much easier now.

1249
01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:36.319
But just in general, the stuff
I'm getting my character is constantly. I'm

1250
01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:42.359
really frequently equipping new stuff that a
looks cool as shit for the necromancer,

1251
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.079
but also b is just making me
steadily feel powerful. So when I get

1252
01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:48.359
those skill points to up grade,
I'm really excited to see what that's going

1253
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:51.399
to do with the next one I
spend. Now, if I give it

1254
01:23:51.439 --> 01:23:54.560
a shot now and I really get
into it, is it okay? If

1255
01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:57.479
I credit Mary for recommending it,
Yeah, go for it. I don't

1256
01:23:57.479 --> 01:24:00.319
know, okay, okay, cool? Yeah right, I agree. Cool.

1257
01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:06.239
Have you guys played anything else?
Nope? I was traveling good monkey

1258
01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:10.800
Ball the monkey Ball, Yeah haven't. I've just done the single player stuff.

1259
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:13.039
It's just straight up monkey Ball the
way I like it, the way

1260
01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:15.960
I remember it. I haven't done
the multiplayer stuff yet, but I think

1261
01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:17.000
we're gonna do a giant bomb stream
at some point of that. So uh

1262
01:24:17.479 --> 01:24:20.920
yeah, thumbs up from a monkey
Ball guy here. All right, do

1263
01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:25.079
you guys want to do emails?
Yeah? Hi, folks, it's me

1264
01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:29.680
Dan. During the break, Mike
informed me of something I was not aware

1265
01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:33.079
of. Apparently, when I discovered
of my own accord, how good case

1266
01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:38.119
the Golden Idol was a few weeks
ago, I got very excited about it

1267
01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:42.079
and wanted to introduce my good friends
to this great game I found, and

1268
01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:45.359
so I asked for codes, and
I got a bunch of codes for a

1269
01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:48.720
case of the Golden Idol, and
I decked Mike and Mary and Discord being

1270
01:24:48.760 --> 01:24:53.600
like, you gotta check this out. Mike thought I was fucking with him.

1271
01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:57.079
I think Jake did too, but
Jake was like, yeah, take

1272
01:24:57.119 --> 01:24:59.239
a code. No. I thought
I was being a good friend and being

1273
01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:01.119
like, hey, try out the
school game. Oh my god, I

1274
01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:06.039
cannot believe. I want. I
wish somebody had enough time in their hands

1275
01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:11.119
to do a super cut of all
the times I vehemently recommended it via me.

1276
01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:13.640
I don't know if it's happened.
I think you guys are fucking with

1277
01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:18.680
me. Now. Who was a
Hanson? Hanson messaged me that the first

1278
01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:21.680
episode where you actually kind of you
told me you don't know what kind of

1279
01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:26.439
game? Total War? Oh sure? Three was Hanson's like, dude,

1280
01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:30.119
this is infuriating to listen to.
He's gonna love this episode. He's gonna

1281
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:33.039
really like this one. Oh boy. Cool, all right, anyway,

1282
01:25:33.079 --> 01:25:38.119
I'm gonna read uh wait, no, I'll read the second one because that's

1283
01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:40.680
more specifically geared toward me. Dan
or No, Mary, you want to

1284
01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:45.560
do the first one here from Ryan. Sure, Hey friends, Ryan from

1285
01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:50.319
Minneapolis. Here. In the last
few episodes, there's been some banana discourse,

1286
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:56.079
so I just wanted to contribute my
small part. How nice in the

1287
01:25:56.199 --> 01:26:00.680
hit roguelike video game Bilatro I have
heard so sorry, Actually this is crucial.

1288
01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:03.159
I just realized you two weren't here
last episode. Yeah, I assumed

1289
01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:06.000
I forgot banana discourse. No,
no, sorry, Mary, I'm not.

1290
01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:09.840
I'm not doing the bit where I
interrupt you on purpose really quick.

1291
01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:12.840
When you guys were here, When
you guys were here with banana, I

1292
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:15.960
thought they met the tweets where I
always say when someone's playing banana yellow that

1293
01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:17.840
they look hot. That's not what's
Oh, I could see the confusion there.

1294
01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:20.800
When Manati was here, you guys
talked about how banana candy tastes nothing

1295
01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:28.119
like real bananas. Everybody agreed.
Several people emailed in saying that candy was

1296
01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:30.399
create that flavor was created based on
a kind of banana that more of the

1297
01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:33.079
world used to eat before a bunch
of it got hit by a fungus and

1298
01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:36.359
a lot of it died. Something
along those lines. So the kind of

1299
01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:42.439
bananas we eat now today that candy
was not based on someone emailed in last

1300
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:45.680
episode. That's useful foundation for this
email. Sorry man, got it?

1301
01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:55.479
Okay, yeah, what the banana
discourse? Okay, thank you for the

1302
01:26:55.560 --> 01:27:00.640
lore. In the Rogue Hit Rogue
Light video game Bilatro, there's a common

1303
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:06.840
joker that's unlocked from the beginning called
gross Michael. This particular shohow is it?

1304
01:27:08.399 --> 01:27:12.159
It's gross? I think it's Michael. It means Michael in French.

1305
01:27:12.239 --> 01:27:15.880
Yeah, Michelle Michelle, Gross Michael. And this particular joker gives you a

1306
01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:20.479
plus fifteen molt, but also has
a one sixth chance of being destroyed at

1307
01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:27.479
the end of the round. Obviously, this is a reference to banana cultivar

1308
01:27:28.119 --> 01:27:34.359
god that went extinct in the nineteen
fifties. Obviously, But did you know

1309
01:27:35.039 --> 01:27:46.279
that having Gross Michelle destroyed unlocks access
to a rare joker called Cavendish, named

1310
01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:50.960
after the current cultivar of banana.
This joker is much stronger, giving you

1311
01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:56.479
a three times molt, but it
still has a one in one thousand chance

1312
01:27:56.560 --> 01:27:59.279
of being destroyed at the end of
the round. No idea. If there's

1313
01:27:59.279 --> 01:28:05.439
a third joke, if you would
destroy that one. Also, Wikipedia tells

1314
01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:10.720
me that gross Michael is French for
Big Mic, So do with that information

1315
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:14.479
what you will. Thank you,
that's all, Ryan, Ryan, thank

1316
01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:19.119
you for so many knowledge bombs.
I am blown away. Well now you

1317
01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:25.199
tell me Big Mic. That is
very I learned that at SGF because Bonk

1318
01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:29.039
is obsessively into Bolatro and she has
not been able to get the Cavendish one.

1319
01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:32.199
And so when she saw that we
had about the PR guy for Blatro

1320
01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:34.960
on the couch, she's like,
ask him how do I get the Cavendish?

1321
01:28:35.079 --> 01:28:39.640
And I just recorded him and he
basically explained all of this stuff in

1322
01:28:39.680 --> 01:28:41.720
this history of bananas and stuff.
It's like, goddamn, that's a good

1323
01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:46.560
PR guy knows, probably because apparently
there's just a little banana jokes in Palatro.

1324
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:51.279
They know the bananas. There's a
lot of a lot of bits in

1325
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:57.000
that game. Thank you, Ryan, very good lore, Thank you Ryan.

1326
01:28:57.279 --> 01:29:01.000
My god. All right, Mike, everyone was stepping on each other.

1327
01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:03.479
And I don't think Vinny or Ben
caught your joke, but I want

1328
01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:06.279
you to know that I heard it
and I laughed aloud. Uh. The

1329
01:29:06.960 --> 01:29:12.279
subject for this email was July eleventh. I wrote it. I'll explain it,

1330
01:29:12.359 --> 01:29:14.239
trust me. I wrote this just
for you, but if you want

1331
01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:16.359
to prompt for the podcast, what's
the coolest or funniest thing y'all ever?

1332
01:29:16.439 --> 01:29:23.760
Did that? Nobody else notice from? Brad Hanson was talking about his recent

1333
01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:27.600
trip to Quebec City and he went
to he saw the hotel, which is

1334
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:33.680
kind of their main landmark. Apparently
Fdr Churchill Eisenhower planned the invasion of Europe

1335
01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:38.840
there before they even knew that they
were going to go to invade through Normandy.

1336
01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:41.640
Apparently the cafe across the street where
a bunch of them like went to

1337
01:29:41.640 --> 01:29:45.640
get drinks often was called Cafe Normandy. And then so Me, Vinnie and

1338
01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:49.319
Hanson went off on a bit about
how Churchill and Eisenhower just stumped one night

1339
01:29:49.399 --> 01:29:53.479
and Churchill walked up to the window
the cigar and saw Cafe Normandy's like,

1340
01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:59.279
I've got it. And and then
I continued the bit by saying that he

1341
01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:01.079
turned to look the other direction.
He's like, and we'll invade on July

1342
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:06.239
eleventh. That was the bit,
being that he saw seven eleven and it's

1343
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:11.520
good. Yeah, it was very
good seven eleven and saving private Ryan times.

1344
01:30:11.920 --> 01:30:14.960
I don't think so. Actually,
wait, now I'm curious when was

1345
01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:21.840
seven eleven, founded July eleventh,
nineteen twenty seven, in Dallas, Texas.

1346
01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:25.319
Oh that was that was okay?
So Private Ryan could have gone there,

1347
01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:30.520
okay, yeah the one five Private
Ryans six. Oh yeah, well

1348
01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:33.600
that was the famous one. Yeah, the Matt Demon one. Yeah,

1349
01:30:34.319 --> 01:30:40.279
what is something super cool that you've
done that no one has noticed? I

1350
01:30:40.439 --> 01:30:44.239
do really cool stuff all the time
by myself, trying to pick which one

1351
01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:46.800
though is coolest or funny, funniest
thing y'all ever did that nobody else?

1352
01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:50.680
I mean, if no one noticed, I would have. I think I

1353
01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:57.239
would have called it out to bring
attention, to make sure nuts. Yeah,

1354
01:30:59.039 --> 01:31:02.920
it's it's Giant sixteen anniversary. And
I saw that Dan was posting old

1355
01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:09.880
memories of Giant Bomb that are really
really special or meaningful. This is not

1356
01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:12.800
me, but I think it is
worth saying. One of my favorite memories

1357
01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:18.359
of Giant Bomb is when we were
playing I actually don't know if I remember

1358
01:31:18.399 --> 01:31:20.920
what this game is. Drew Scanlon
was on the couch next to me.

1359
01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:28.479
Brad was playing a game and in
this game, the shield is a fence.

1360
01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:31.800
You're holding a fence, and I
say on the show, oh,

1361
01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:40.800
the shield is a fence and you
can watch Drew's face come up with the

1362
01:31:40.920 --> 01:31:47.000
idea that it's that it's a defense. It's defense, and it's really funny

1363
01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:51.439
and it's a really cool idea,
and he's holding on to it. He's

1364
01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:55.479
literally like you can watch it.
You can watch his face be like,

1365
01:31:55.560 --> 01:31:58.439
I have a good one and I
need the right time to say it.

1366
01:31:59.039 --> 01:32:02.119
And then he says it and no
one fucking pays attention and we just move

1367
01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:06.239
on and he just kind of like
looks down and it's a very delightful moment.

1368
01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:10.439
And I've gotten until this exact moment, but if you were to like

1369
01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:13.319
put me on that, I would
bring up this moment. It's very funny.

1370
01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:16.119
Oh and he deserves more accolades for
that. It was just very funny.

1371
01:32:16.359 --> 01:32:18.039
That was Drew, though, is
because Drew was just you know,

1372
01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:23.359
he picks the spots and he's very
funny and very smart. I honestly,

1373
01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:26.640
my favorite Giant Bull memory with you, Mary, I think is the one

1374
01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:30.079
where you guys were playing some indiegame
on Steam and it was like you Gershman

1375
01:32:30.399 --> 01:32:34.600
and Rory Uh were on the couch. I camera for anyone else was Uh

1376
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:41.119
and he there's this you spent minutes, many minutes going through this recipe book

1377
01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:43.960
and it was just like, you
know, there's a menu item, it's

1378
01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:45.399
like recipe book and you're just looking
at all these recipes and stuff like that.

1379
01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:48.960
Is this ringing a bell? Mary, I need Oh my god,

1380
01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:53.359
you need to see this. It's
OK. Rory is off and Rory Land

1381
01:32:53.479 --> 01:32:56.840
I don't I would look at pictures
of on his laptop or Rory, God

1382
01:32:56.880 --> 01:33:00.720
bless him, is just off on
another island mentally. And you guys are

1383
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:04.479
just looking at recipes for like five
minutes and then you're closing out the show.

1384
01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:08.960
It's like upf for something. And
Gershman starts wrapping it up. And

1385
01:33:09.119 --> 01:33:13.359
then Rory looks up from his laptop
for a second and sees recipe book on

1386
01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:15.039
the menu and he goes, oh, wait, we should check out.

1387
01:33:15.039 --> 01:33:17.279
We should check out the recipe book. And Mary, you don't say to

1388
01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:20.119
you just kind of look over and
you're kind of smiling. And Gersman's like,

1389
01:33:20.760 --> 01:33:23.439
yeah, maybe we'll check that out
next time. Murray, I'll take

1390
01:33:23.439 --> 01:33:27.560
a look at the recipe buck.
But you're always like this motherfucker just said,

1391
01:33:27.600 --> 01:33:31.680
where has he been for the last
five minutes? That's incredible. So

1392
01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:35.760
funny. Uh, some of the
best moments on that couch. I think

1393
01:33:36.479 --> 01:33:43.600
they're just so normal. They're not
planned, there's nothing, there's no spectacular

1394
01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:48.920
finish. It's just a bunch of
people on a couch being stupid and like

1395
01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:55.720
it just naturally organically has some of
the most funny moments of reactions. And

1396
01:33:56.199 --> 01:33:59.960
I don't know humanity honestly that I've
ever seen first of all, can guys,

1397
01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:02.279
She's on sixteen years, But like
what those are such good memories,

1398
01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:09.560
like such good moments. It's been
a very fun place to work, real

1399
01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:12.439
good. It's been over ten years. It was over ten years ago I

1400
01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:16.720
started. I saw Lucy tweeted her
ten year anniversary at GameSpot and I thought,

1401
01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:20.960
you know what an incredible achievement for
her, and for anyone to make

1402
01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:26.800
it ten years at any job in
this gen I think is worth commending.

1403
01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:32.680
But in games media, with all
of the fucking layoffs and all the problems

1404
01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:39.119
and the turnover and the churn and
the burnout, like yep, I mean,

1405
01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:44.439
you're a superhero, it's crazy.
I think anyone who's been who is

1406
01:34:44.479 --> 01:34:46.600
employed in games media in twenty twenty
four and has worked there for a long

1407
01:34:46.680 --> 01:34:50.199
time has to be very aware of
how lucky they are to have had a

1408
01:34:50.279 --> 01:34:54.640
career in it, because it's it
was hard to get into fucking twenty years

1409
01:34:54.640 --> 01:34:58.239
ago when I started, and to
still have a job in it. I

1410
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:00.880
am very aware every day of like, wow, okay, I'm gonna gonna

1411
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:09.800
enjoy this, enjoy it. Yeah, yep, giant bomb Wise, I

1412
01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:13.640
think I don't know. My favorite
thing would have been. I love all

1413
01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:17.279
of hits. Miss it's really good. What do I think about with you?

1414
01:35:17.439 --> 01:35:19.840
Mike? That is just a stupid
little thing and I can never even

1415
01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:24.279
find it because it's it's just one
of the burgle My Banana's episodes, and

1416
01:35:24.359 --> 01:35:29.119
it's during the DK rap and you
were just making dumb ass donkey Kong noises

1417
01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:31.000
at the end of each version jokes. It's hard to always get them all

1418
01:35:31.600 --> 01:35:36.840
really good. Didn't you almost pass
out once? Well, yeah, that

1419
01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:42.319
was the slide Golden Banana. I
had to we had to get a pass

1420
01:35:42.359 --> 01:35:45.279
the controller and then we were coming
up on the end of the hour,

1421
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:47.720
two hours or whatever it was,
and yeah, I cheered, We all

1422
01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:53.119
cheered loudly, cheered so loudly,
and like lost. You can see if

1423
01:35:53.159 --> 01:35:56.239
you watch it, back. It's
one of the later episodes, and it's

1424
01:35:56.479 --> 01:35:59.680
we spend the entire episode trying to
get that banana because you have to not

1425
01:35:59.800 --> 01:36:04.159
a finished the slide like think Mario
sixty four slide. Yah, you also

1426
01:36:04.199 --> 01:36:08.239
have to do it in under x
seconds or whatever it is. And I

1427
01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:13.439
finally got lucky at some point and
did it, and then I cheered so

1428
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:15.199
loud that I actually, like you
could see the blood like rush to my

1429
01:36:15.359 --> 01:36:18.000
head. I think there's a moment
where you can just tell you, well,

1430
01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:21.279
where am I? Oh? Yeah, that was I. I almost

1431
01:36:21.279 --> 01:36:26.960
passed out and hit my head on
the microphone and I caught myself stid it

1432
01:36:27.039 --> 01:36:30.880
was it was close. U.
I like hits miss a lot. But

1433
01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:35.039
uh, in terms of just like
something cool or funny I've done, then,

1434
01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:40.039
no one has noticed. I do
a lot of dumb jokes that I

1435
01:36:40.960 --> 01:36:44.720
think these days, I don't call
attention to it as much unless I'm reading

1436
01:36:44.760 --> 01:36:48.319
an email explaining a joke from my
last episode, which is what. Yeah.

1437
01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:50.680
I think we make sure we get
our shit in. If we've got

1438
01:36:50.720 --> 01:36:57.039
something we think is funny, we're
going to getting it in yep. But

1439
01:36:57.119 --> 01:37:00.720
outside of that, I don't think
I have anything most people. Most most

1440
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:04.760
of my stuff is really like so
funny that it's impossible you put the really

1441
01:37:04.800 --> 01:37:09.000
sad ones in the vault, you
know, like if you tell a funny

1442
01:37:11.840 --> 01:37:14.920
you tell a funny joke and no
one laughs. I usually don't remember that

1443
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:17.319
memory because I'm like, I thought
that was a funny joke, but maybe

1444
01:37:17.399 --> 01:37:23.880
I'm stupid. I actually, do
you think it was? No? Just

1445
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:28.479
this morning in the shower, a
shampoo fell off the shelf, and I

1446
01:37:28.600 --> 01:37:30.720
not only did I catch it perfectly
by the base, I caught it like

1447
01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:34.640
behind me like this, and I
audibly said to myself nice and then put

1448
01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:41.279
it back. I thought to myself, I wish someone was watching me do

1449
01:37:41.359 --> 01:37:45.479
that right now? That been sick. I must have been in a good

1450
01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:47.520
mood because I actually, like,
eh, got it and then put it

1451
01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:51.560
back up. That never happens.
Usually I juggle it for a while.

1452
01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:56.840
All right, Thank you, Brad, Thank you. Do you want to

1453
01:37:56.840 --> 01:38:00.640
read this one from our frequent writer
Wes. Hello there. I was born

1454
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:03.399
in nineteen ninety one, but never
had an N sixty four as a child,

1455
01:38:03.479 --> 01:38:05.199
so I missed out. I'm playing
a bunch of games. People my

1456
01:38:05.279 --> 01:38:09.239
age tend to remember fondly. I
played Ocarina of Time for the first time

1457
01:38:09.319 --> 01:38:12.720
last year, the three DS version. I couldn't stand it. I slogged

1458
01:38:12.760 --> 01:38:15.119
through the Spirit Temple before I put
it down. I have to assume a

1459
01:38:15.119 --> 01:38:16.840
lot of a left for this game
is nostlid base because it has not aged

1460
01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:20.079
well. What is an older game
that everybody loves but you don't because you

1461
01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:25.720
didn't play it as a child that's
west from Baltimore. I it's hard to

1462
01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:30.720
disagree because obviously I have like deep
nostalgia for Acarina, but I don't know.

1463
01:38:30.720 --> 01:38:32.439
I've played that game a lot,
and even like fairly recently I've been

1464
01:38:32.439 --> 01:38:38.199
doing the randomizer and stuff. I
guess I could see how it's not the

1465
01:38:38.279 --> 01:38:41.560
flashiest Zelda. It's pretty by the
book as far as like it's what you

1466
01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:44.560
would expect from like you know,
turn Link to the Past into a three

1467
01:38:44.680 --> 01:38:47.760
D game, but like just at
the time, turning Link to the Past

1468
01:38:47.760 --> 01:38:53.720
into a three D experience was insane
and like there was a reason it was

1469
01:38:53.720 --> 01:38:56.159
so highly regarded back then. I
can't speak to what to be like playing

1470
01:38:56.159 --> 01:39:00.439
it for the first time now,
I still love the game, but yeah,

1471
01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:01.640
I mean, look, if you're
playing it for the first time now,

1472
01:39:01.760 --> 01:39:04.439
and you've played others old game since
and ones with the kind of more

1473
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:08.680
modern quality life type stuff and everything, like I get it, Like it's

1474
01:39:08.720 --> 01:39:14.479
just you know, you don't have
to like it. My answer might I

1475
01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:18.119
think this is a judicious, judicial
way of saying it. I didn't play

1476
01:39:18.159 --> 01:39:21.199
the mel of your solid games when
I was young, one and two.

1477
01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:28.319
I came in you're wearing a shirt
right now. I came in a few

1478
01:39:28.439 --> 01:39:31.560
years. My first game I played
when it had like recently released was four.

1479
01:39:32.119 --> 01:39:36.039
I went back to the previous games
after I had played that, and

1480
01:39:36.159 --> 01:39:40.239
I absolutely saw why people love them, and I do love them there.

1481
01:39:40.439 --> 01:39:47.199
I absolutely adore them, especially three, but I remember one and two being

1482
01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:53.439
really hard to get through control wise. And I'm not the first person to

1483
01:39:53.479 --> 01:39:57.359
say this, but I remember thinking, like I think I was aware enough

1484
01:39:57.399 --> 01:39:59.359
to know that if I had played
that, and if I had had a

1485
01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:03.079
PS one when that those came out, that I would absolutely have like spent

1486
01:40:03.359 --> 01:40:08.760
every day playing them. But maybe
because it felt more out of obligation,

1487
01:40:08.800 --> 01:40:14.000
because I loved four, and then
you know, really wanted from what I

1488
01:40:14.079 --> 01:40:15.279
knew about three, I wanted to
get to three. So I just wanted

1489
01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:17.279
to get through one and two,
and I still love one. Sometimes I

1490
01:40:17.319 --> 01:40:21.479
think I look back and one is
my favorite of all them. But those

1491
01:40:21.640 --> 01:40:28.479
struck me as why why are the
controls so so rough? But again I

1492
01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:30.279
was like, oh, well,
I was on the PS one controller,

1493
01:40:30.399 --> 01:40:31.960
so I get it. Yeah.
I mean there's this little quirks and stuff

1494
01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:35.600
like whenever I've tried to introduce people
to Middle Year after nineteen ninety eight,

1495
01:40:36.039 --> 01:40:39.840
you know, people are always like
the snapping necks, like that's such a

1496
01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:41.840
big part of the game. But
it's a explained like, all right,

1497
01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:44.640
you got to run close to the
guards, but then don't hit Square while

1498
01:40:44.640 --> 01:40:45.359
you're moving, because if you do
that, you're gonna plip them over.

1499
01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:47.800
So you need to run close to
them, stop, and then jame on

1500
01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:50.279
Square a bunch, and it's like
all right, like back then, funny

1501
01:40:50.279 --> 01:40:55.199
because Eldon Ring brings that back.
You can't backstab if you're still moving.

1502
01:40:55.279 --> 01:40:58.079
You got to kind of stop briefly
before you stab them. Yeah, oh

1503
01:40:58.239 --> 01:41:00.359
sure, okay, Yeah, it's
just a funny, like we've come full

1504
01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:04.199
circle. But yeah, no,
it's there's a lot of like intricacies with

1505
01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:10.199
that control scheme that I remember,
and like slipping flipping through items. That's

1506
01:41:10.199 --> 01:41:14.079
also elden ring to me, is
Zaki just play a lot of Metal Gear

1507
01:41:14.119 --> 01:41:16.199
Solid while he was designing. That's
the thing is like back then it was

1508
01:41:16.279 --> 01:41:18.880
more about like how many things you
could do, Like I remember playing that

1509
01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:21.000
demo of Metal Gear solidud. It's
like, okay, so you can hold

1510
01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:24.359
your So if you go into first
person and you hold up a guard and

1511
01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:28.159
then you aim down and you point
at their walkie talkie, they'll shake and

1512
01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:30.079
you can basically hold them up for
stuff. But then if you don't want

1513
01:41:30.079 --> 01:41:31.960
to shoot him, it's pressure sensitive
face button, so you have to like

1514
01:41:32.039 --> 01:41:34.920
slowly let up on square and not
shoot him. And it's like when you're

1515
01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:38.239
upsessed with that, you do it
because you're so enamored with the fact that

1516
01:41:38.319 --> 01:41:41.680
you can do all these things that
you're you're patient about learning it all.

1517
01:41:41.960 --> 01:41:44.920
But if you're going back to it, especially now, I'm sure it's like

1518
01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:48.199
what the fuck? And also like
playing those I remember thinking or playing four

1519
01:41:48.359 --> 01:41:54.319
even which is you know, like
still relatively more indoors or urban areas.

1520
01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:57.479
I'm like, man, before I
even knew about the rest of the series,

1521
01:41:57.560 --> 01:41:59.640
I'm like, I wish there was
one that was just strictly an outdoor

1522
01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:03.239
and my cousin's like, well,
get get this the game right before this.

1523
01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:08.399
Yeah no, I still absolutely love
those games. It's not like I

1524
01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:11.720
don't think the early ones have aged
all that well, but I still am,

1525
01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:16.800
like I love them. But yeah, Okarina, I legitimately cannot imagine

1526
01:42:17.800 --> 01:42:20.640
what it would be like to play
that for the first time in twenty twenty

1527
01:42:20.680 --> 01:42:25.840
four. Probably just kind of clunky, I'm sure, just awkward. Yeah,

1528
01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:27.920
yeah, it feels like it takes
forever. I'm sure to walk across

1529
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:31.439
the field. I'm sure there's some
logic things that probably seem dated. Yeah,

1530
01:42:31.720 --> 01:42:33.960
I get it. Yeah, because
the field initially was like, hey

1531
01:42:34.079 --> 01:42:36.720
check out three D. Look how
big the space fields. It had,

1532
01:42:36.760 --> 01:42:40.439
the fucking sun that would go across
the sky and then it would get dark

1533
01:42:40.479 --> 01:42:42.720
and the fucking enemies would come out
at night, and it was like it

1534
01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:45.319
was fucking revolutionary back then. But
I'm sure now it's just a big empty

1535
01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:49.520
thing. Yeah, here wolf how
the drawbridge would rise and the torch is

1536
01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:53.760
light and like, yeah, it's
awesome. Yeah, yeah, I still

1537
01:42:53.800 --> 01:42:58.000
love that game. My I had
plenty that I tried and didn't like,

1538
01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:00.640
you know, like the adventure game
genre, RPG, JENY, Final Fantasy,

1539
01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:02.680
all that stuff. Of those I
tried, as far as one that

1540
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:06.520
I just never even played. Back
then, it was pretty much all PC

1541
01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:12.000
stuff because I you know, at
any house I was at it was a

1542
01:43:12.039 --> 01:43:14.520
stepdad or my dad or something like, I was not allowed to put games

1543
01:43:14.520 --> 01:43:18.399
on it because it probably had a
virus. And so like Diablo Quake,

1544
01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:21.399
you know, and I still don't
think I've ever played Quake. I've never

1545
01:43:21.399 --> 01:43:26.319
played the original, like Diablo or
Diablo two for some reason. Command and

1546
01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:29.359
Conquer I was well because that would
actually play on my computer. I got

1547
01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:31.000
like an E machine's computer in the
late nineties, and Command of Conker would

1548
01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:36.359
play on it in general, not
what do you mean would conquer? What's

1549
01:43:36.359 --> 01:43:42.439
that? So are you saying you
never really liked the earlier games? No,

1550
01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:45.880
no, No, I loved him
because like those on my shitty two

1551
01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:48.199
hundred dollars computer or whatever I thought
you were, the early Command of Conquers

1552
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:51.000
could play, and so that was
like one of the few. So I

1553
01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:55.399
probably got that in nineteen ninety eight
or something, and so it's like that

1554
01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:57.880
was the game. The new game
that could run in my thing, but

1555
01:43:57.920 --> 01:44:00.279
once they went to polygons with general, it's like, oh my my,

1556
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:02.920
my computer can't play that. Oh
I see, I thought you were including

1557
01:44:02.960 --> 01:44:05.680
those earlier games in this the answer
to this question, I'm like, I

1558
01:44:05.720 --> 01:44:09.119
thought you liked those. No,
I'm saying that is like the exception as

1559
01:44:09.159 --> 01:44:11.880
far as PC games, like any
like First Person Shooter. I mean,

1560
01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:14.359
it's why I like, I loved
every gaming magazine, but I didn't want

1561
01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:16.520
to get Next Gen magazine because they
always covered PC games and I would just

1562
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:19.760
get pissed off at like, God, this Kingpin game looks so realistic,

1563
01:44:19.760 --> 01:44:23.079
I'll never get to play what is
Half Life? If I can't remember?

1564
01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:26.479
I bought Half Life because everybody was
raving about it so fucking much, and

1565
01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:29.359
I tried to install it on my
E machines and it's like I could get

1566
01:44:29.399 --> 01:44:30.760
to the menu, but then it
wouldn't load up the game and stuff,

1567
01:44:30.800 --> 01:44:32.920
and you can't return it. So
I'm just being like, I just spent

1568
01:44:33.039 --> 01:44:35.560
fifty dollars on this fucking game.
I can't return it. It's like I

1569
01:44:35.760 --> 01:44:41.279
just swore off PC gaming, you
know. So I guess my last answer

1570
01:44:42.039 --> 01:44:47.560
is I look back and I sometimes
I wish I played Final Fantasy when it

1571
01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:55.039
like the earlier games, when it
was more kind of just this dominant part

1572
01:44:55.079 --> 01:44:57.760
of the zeitgeist. But again,
I didn't have a PlayStation, so I

1573
01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:00.520
wasn't really playing. I had a
PS two, I didn't have a PS

1574
01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:05.399
one. But I know people have
this reverence for that storyline. I know

1575
01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:10.520
people love those characters. I think
that's my Acarina. I'm like, I

1576
01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:14.600
can't put myself in a headspace where
I absolutely love that. But again,

1577
01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:15.960
that doesn't mean I can't see why
other people like it. And I guess

1578
01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:20.920
that's why rebirth and remake are great, because I can at least sort of

1579
01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:25.520
see the characters through a more modern
lens. But yeah, Final Fantasy is

1580
01:45:25.640 --> 01:45:30.439
kind of my I don't get it, but I can get why other people

1581
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:32.479
are. I respect it, but
I'm not gonna play it. Yeah,

1582
01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:39.279
I think that would be mine as
well, Mike. The other one I

1583
01:45:39.560 --> 01:45:45.960
recognized was this is a weird one. But I never played a Doctor Mario

1584
01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:48.439
growing up, and everybody raves about
Doctor Mario. I don't know if you've

1585
01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:51.319
noticed that, but nobody is a
bad fucking thing to say about Doctor Mario,

1586
01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:56.239
and I finally played it, Like
when I was working at GameSpot and

1587
01:45:56.319 --> 01:45:59.640
I was like, this game's stupid, this game sucks, it's boring,

1588
01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:03.479
I'm flipping pills. I hated it, and I don't understand why everybody loved

1589
01:46:03.640 --> 01:46:08.039
Doctor Mario. Like there must have
been some era when we were kids everybody

1590
01:46:08.079 --> 01:46:12.000
thought Doctor Mario was genius. I
lost my SNUS Classic with roommates in San

1591
01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:14.359
Francisco, and that was the first
game they wanted to play with me.

1592
01:46:14.520 --> 01:46:16.399
Like, what is this reference?
I like to yeah, yeah, I

1593
01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:19.560
get okay. I like Doctor Mario
a lot. I have very fun memories

1594
01:46:19.600 --> 01:46:23.279
of Doctor Mario. But Mary,
everything you said is right in that,

1595
01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:27.840
like, it's not as far as
puzzle games. There's way more interesting and

1596
01:46:28.039 --> 01:46:30.520
involved in better ones. I think
it's the fact that, look, doctor

1597
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:33.319
Mario has fucking awesome music. It's
great music. Uh, you got Mario

1598
01:46:33.439 --> 01:46:38.199
in a fun little doctor thing like
the whole, the whole. It's Mario

1599
01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:40.760
and a doctor thing with a little
thing on his head and he's throwing like

1600
01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:44.479
these little virus guys, little asshole
virus dudes with good music, good sounds.

1601
01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:47.439
It's like it was a good puzzle
game on Andy has also two players

1602
01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:53.319
fun, but it's it's out Even
back then it was outclassed by you know,

1603
01:46:53.760 --> 01:46:57.319
any number of obviously like Tetris and
stuff is way better. So I

1604
01:46:57.720 --> 01:46:59.920
get it. I get if you're
coming to it now, just being like

1605
01:47:00.119 --> 01:47:03.079
there were so many better puzzle games
out there, but I have fond memories

1606
01:47:03.119 --> 01:47:10.439
of it. Yeah, there's probably
a bunch of like Super Nintendo Era,

1607
01:47:11.680 --> 01:47:15.359
although I had Super Nintendo so I
played a lot of those. But yeah,

1608
01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:17.840
outside of that, there are other
series and whatnot in games where I'm

1609
01:47:17.840 --> 01:47:20.920
like, I don't get why people
love this but like it, But those

1610
01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:25.039
are games I've played, and I
just it didn't connect with in terms of

1611
01:47:25.199 --> 01:47:29.079
like things I missed out on.
I think it's Final Fantasy. It's metal

1612
01:47:29.119 --> 01:47:31.199
Gear solid when they were new,
stuff like that. I don't think I

1613
01:47:31.279 --> 01:47:35.600
realized how anti Final Fantasy this entire
podcast is. Like when a new Final

1614
01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:38.680
Fantasy comes out, do we even
talk about it? Like, did we

1615
01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:43.840
talk about sixteen or fifteen or Mike? Not the new not the brand new

1616
01:47:43.880 --> 01:47:47.720
ones, but we you were really, uh, generally the remakes seven the

1617
01:47:47.800 --> 01:47:51.079
seven stuff is pretty good, but
like I feel like of us talking about

1618
01:47:51.079 --> 01:47:58.119
sixteen, I didn't played it was
that thirteen fifteen was the car trip thing.

1619
01:47:58.399 --> 01:48:00.960
Sixteen was more like Games Thrones,
and that was Yeah, did any

1620
01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:05.000
of us touch it? No,
never been a second thinking about that game

1621
01:48:05.399 --> 01:48:09.199
last summer. There was stuff going
on. It also had the unfortunate thing

1622
01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:15.119
we're at a distance. It reminded
me a lot of Forespokens aesthetic. Oh

1623
01:48:15.640 --> 01:48:19.239
and I just didn't want to get
into that sure, But also I feel

1624
01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:25.560
like people who love Final Fantasy also
sixteen came and went. That's the thing.

1625
01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:29.399
It's always weirded me out, Like
whenever they announced a new numbered Final

1626
01:48:29.479 --> 01:48:31.319
Fantasy and everyone freaks out about it, I think, like, wait a

1627
01:48:31.359 --> 01:48:35.760
minute, I feel like I haven't
heard anyone love like a numbered Final Fantasy

1628
01:48:35.800 --> 01:48:40.079
since like twelve, Like, and
so why is it always a big deal

1629
01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:45.479
when announced sixteen fifteen? Seems like
people didn't like sixteen. They're gonnamales for

1630
01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:49.840
this fourteen. That's a whole different
thing. I think thirteen was a thirteen.

1631
01:48:50.039 --> 01:48:54.439
I hated at thirteen. That was
the trilogy where her clothes affected her

1632
01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:57.800
abilities, right, like the Lightning
one and the Guy's got to burden his

1633
01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:02.399
hair twelve twelve twelve was old that
like loves that one. So I've seen

1634
01:49:02.439 --> 01:49:04.920
that that's the one with the Gambit
system and all that, Yeah, which

1635
01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:09.079
is super cool. You can program
them the game to play itself if you

1636
01:49:09.199 --> 01:49:11.479
just want to see grind through some
shit. And then one had some cool

1637
01:49:11.479 --> 01:49:16.840
ideas like twelve. Yeah, Zodiac
Age was the re release on PS four

1638
01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:20.640
and switch and stuff. Yeah,
yeah, I liked it. I didn't

1639
01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:24.520
beat it. I played half of
it. That's a game I frequently think

1640
01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:29.039
about maybe going back to. But
ten and twelve were I mean, hell,

1641
01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:31.319
all the old ones basically like all
the old ones, and then seven

1642
01:49:31.359 --> 01:49:35.359
eight nine. Obviously ten and twelve
were kind of like massive things that even

1643
01:49:35.399 --> 01:49:38.680
as someone who didn't care about the
genre, you would hear about all the

1644
01:49:38.760 --> 01:49:41.800
time. I feel like since twelve, which I was in college for that,

1645
01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:44.920
I haven't heard anyone be like,
oh, this new numbered Final Fantasy

1646
01:49:44.960 --> 01:49:49.439
is fucking awesome. Outside of the
remix, yeah, sixteen, I'm trying

1647
01:49:49.439 --> 01:49:53.079
to think what else was coming out
around that. That was summer last year.

1648
01:49:53.119 --> 01:49:59.119
People really like the Open World one
U, the MMO one Yeah,

1649
01:49:59.319 --> 01:50:02.600
yeah, I don't even like I
kind of don't count that because that just

1650
01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:05.159
seems like a whole different product,
you know, Yeah, that got a

1651
01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:11.399
number like retroactively almost in development,
but like, yeah, fourteen from what

1652
01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:13.359
I played. And I'm not the
biggest MM person, I'm like, oh,

1653
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:15.239
I totally get this. I I
was like, I gotta stop playing

1654
01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:19.560
this. I could play it a
lot. Sixteen that like what that was?

1655
01:50:19.680 --> 01:50:21.960
I think it was June last year. Let me look that up.

1656
01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:30.359
It feels like last year and twenty
second, twenty twenty three? What else?

1657
01:50:30.600 --> 01:50:34.199
Something else came? Like, uh, I just don't want to ust

1658
01:50:34.239 --> 01:50:39.560
I were talking about it. I
feel as if there were other things coming

1659
01:50:39.600 --> 01:50:45.000
out around then that took my attention
more. I mean, I can't possibly

1660
01:50:45.479 --> 01:50:48.560
scan the recesses of my brain from
more final fantasy memories. I have so

1661
01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:53.560
few. It's just a jar with
flies in it. Yep, yep.

1662
01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:57.079
There's a k like like tactics.
I fucking love tactics, but that's a

1663
01:50:57.239 --> 01:51:01.239
different genre basically. I like like
six. When I finally went back to

1664
01:51:01.319 --> 01:51:08.560
it today, Yeah all right,
let me look so fine, Okay,

1665
01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:14.960
June twenty second? What else was
out around then? Uh? It could

1666
01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:17.520
be nothing. I just didn't play
it because play it. I feel like

1667
01:51:17.600 --> 01:51:20.920
there's gotta be a reason I didn't
because I was kind of curious about Oh,

1668
01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:26.720
Diablo four was June sixth, Super
Megan Baseball four, Street Fighter six

1669
01:51:26.840 --> 01:51:30.920
was earlier than real games. Okay, yeah, there was anything else June

1670
01:51:32.279 --> 01:51:36.960
Layers of your f one. I
wouldn't have played that Rogue Legacy two on

1671
01:51:38.039 --> 01:51:41.199
PS four PS five, Oh pick
him in one and two? Okay,

1672
01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:45.520
Uh, there was stuff going on. There was stuff going on, stuff

1673
01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:48.680
going on. I also probably look, you could give me a paddle with

1674
01:51:48.760 --> 01:51:51.199
a ball on it that you can
hit back and forth, and I that's

1675
01:51:51.319 --> 01:51:55.640
that's better than Final Fantasy for me. That would have distracted me. Yeah,

1676
01:51:55.680 --> 01:52:00.439
I maybe it's good. That's the
best thing I could say about it.

1677
01:52:00.479 --> 01:52:05.520
Maybe it's good. There's no way
to know. Do you have any

1678
01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:13.239
others any other games for Wes old
PC stuff, Doctor Mario? Yeah,

1679
01:52:13.319 --> 01:52:17.119
like strategy games in general. Civilization
is yours, I could probably say for

1680
01:52:17.199 --> 01:52:20.399
both of you. I tried Civilization
back then. I hated it. Yeah.

1681
01:52:20.800 --> 01:52:24.159
Yeah, we had that in school
and it was like, why aren't

1682
01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:28.079
I seeing these enemies or these characters
attack each other? I did not like

1683
01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:32.000
it. I well, thank you
Wes, and thank you Dan and Mary.

1684
01:52:32.359 --> 01:52:38.039
First episode back together for being on
the podcast. You're welcome than you

1685
01:52:38.119 --> 01:52:43.399
for I agree. This has been
a huge ask and I'm I'm glad that

1686
01:52:43.479 --> 01:52:46.720
you agree. And I've got an
ask for my homework assignment play case the

1687
01:52:46.800 --> 01:52:50.600
Golden Idol before the next one.
All right, what platform? Do you

1688
01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:54.239
have a code? I got?
I'll set you up? Yeah, all

1689
01:52:54.319 --> 01:52:57.479
right? Didn't I ask for a
code and you didn't give me one?

1690
01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.359
That's not just making I would have
given you one too, because I gotta

1691
01:53:01.439 --> 01:53:04.000
have you not cashed. And you
asked me for code recently and I gave

1692
01:53:04.039 --> 01:53:09.479
you one. I've been waiting for
you to respond. Uh wait, what

1693
01:53:10.800 --> 01:53:13.720
you asked for a code like two
weeks ago and I gave it to you.

1694
01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:17.199
I've been waiting for your response.
Oh my god, are you talking

1695
01:53:17.239 --> 01:53:20.920
about for still wakes the d for
something? Yeah? Did you give me

1696
01:53:20.960 --> 01:53:25.000
to respond? Did not cash that
end? No? I realized it's on

1697
01:53:25.079 --> 01:53:28.520
game pass. Oh oh okay,
I should have. I probably I forgot

1698
01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:31.119
to say something. Sorry, that's
probably still pissed about the Golden Idol thing.

1699
01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:36.319
Okay, it's actually code for something. In one of these days,

1700
01:53:38.039 --> 01:53:42.399
Mike's gonna give you the merry treatment
and he's gonna tell you what a piece

1701
01:53:42.439 --> 01:53:45.359
of shit you are, and then
you're gonna get it from both sides.

1702
01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:56.560
Nice. I don't know the code
was for pogo Stick Champion. It's like

1703
01:53:56.600 --> 01:53:59.079
when I gave you the number of
the Hemorrhoid Facility. Yeah, well,

1704
01:53:59.159 --> 01:54:06.199
yeah, exactly like that. Yep, dare threatened my life every week?

1705
01:54:06.359 --> 01:54:12.760
Got me? I haven't threatened you
in a very long time. And also,

1706
01:54:12.880 --> 01:54:15.680
yeah, use the code because it
was on game Pass. Okay,

1707
01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:17.359
okay, well if you want,
if you want pogo Stick Champion, you've

1708
01:54:17.359 --> 01:54:21.840
got a code for that. That
would have been a good bit Hemorrhoids plus

1709
01:54:23.560 --> 01:54:27.479
yes on game Pass. God,
that was still such a good joke that

1710
01:54:27.560 --> 01:54:32.039
got away. I got so deep
into the conversation with that receptionist. Oh

1711
01:54:32.159 --> 01:54:35.319
sure at the Hemoroid Facility. You
could tell she knew right away something was

1712
01:54:35.399 --> 01:54:39.239
up. Yes, I don't think
he knew he was calling a butt place.

1713
01:54:41.560 --> 01:54:45.760
That's episode eighty five. Thank you
everybody for joining. You can go

1714
01:54:46.039 --> 01:54:50.079
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1715
01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:53.399
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1716
01:54:54.079 --> 01:54:58.039
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1717
01:54:58.119 --> 01:55:01.279
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1718
01:55:01.319 --> 01:55:05.079
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1719
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1720
01:55:08.960 --> 01:55:13.960
can get our merch line, Our
summer merch is still available. I don't

1721
01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:17.760
think the code. The discounts are
over, but summer is still. Yeah.

1722
01:55:17.800 --> 01:55:20.279
I missed out. You fucked up, so you can get them.

1723
01:55:20.319 --> 01:55:23.960
Still. You can still get bathing, so give us more money. Yeah,

1724
01:55:24.479 --> 01:55:29.359
a banana yellow bathing suit for uh, everybody, you're gonna want that.

1725
01:55:29.880 --> 01:55:38.000
Cabin tops, crop tops, crop
bottoms, bottom tops, you love

1726
01:55:38.039 --> 01:55:44.000
bottom tops, two tops, crop
tubes, muffin tops, they're all words,

1727
01:55:45.079 --> 01:55:50.880
loob tubesube. Oh we got we
have fire escape scent. What would

1728
01:55:50.920 --> 01:55:55.279
fire escape if you if we were
a candle or a loube, what would

1729
01:55:55.319 --> 01:56:00.159
we smell like bananas? Bananas?
And it would come and banana yellow.

1730
01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:06.000
It would smell like bananas, and
there would be a code on the cap

1731
01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:12.840
that if you collected all one hundred, we would give you a million dollars.

1732
01:56:13.239 --> 01:56:15.000
Oh, now we're talking. We
have a million. But it's a

1733
01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:18.439
gimmick. And no one will ever
actually win it, and only stupid people

1734
01:56:18.439 --> 01:56:20.960
will play. Oh you just wait
till I get that eleven piece, I

1735
01:56:21.079 --> 01:56:27.119
will, Dan, what do you
have going on outside of Firescape Giant Bomb

1736
01:56:27.479 --> 01:56:30.000
stuff? Check that out. We've
got a lot of fun stuff going on

1737
01:56:30.079 --> 01:56:33.319
there. I had the entire run
of Metal Gear Scanling put up on YouTube

1738
01:56:33.880 --> 01:56:36.800
for those who enjoy. It's been
behind a paywall for all these years,

1739
01:56:36.880 --> 01:56:40.239
and with all the hype going around
about middle year, I wanted more people

1740
01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:43.840
to be able to see it.
So search for Metal Gear Scanlon on YouTube

1741
01:56:43.880 --> 01:56:45.840
if you want to see one of
the best things we've ever done it.

1742
01:56:45.920 --> 01:56:49.319
Giant Bomb were talked about Drew earlier. He's just a killer throughout that entire

1743
01:56:49.399 --> 01:56:55.720
series, so check that out.
Also on a podcast called Firescape Personal Stuff.

1744
01:56:55.840 --> 01:56:59.319
Dan record on Instagram and Twitch.
I hope to be streaming in now

1745
01:56:59.479 --> 01:57:01.319
post Sard and get some of this
travel behind me. I hope to go

1746
01:57:01.399 --> 01:57:03.840
to the stream again because it's been
quite a while and I like doing it,

1747
01:57:03.920 --> 01:57:08.000
so I want to get back out
there. Melica Stanlin's appropriate for the

1748
01:57:08.039 --> 01:57:12.199
conversation we were having earlier. If
you don't necessarily want to be playing through

1749
01:57:12.239 --> 01:57:16.439
those games. It is just as
fun to watch Dan guide Drew. Technically,

1750
01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:19.479
they stole the idea from marrying me
because we did Theresident. You were

1751
01:57:19.520 --> 01:57:23.399
the first ones to the internet.
Yeah, yeah, it's true, and

1752
01:57:23.600 --> 01:57:27.640
everybody else stole that from us.
So just know that going in it probably

1753
01:57:27.640 --> 01:57:30.319
would move up to the expectations.
Credit you in every episode. Yeah,

1754
01:57:30.399 --> 01:57:32.279
yeah, you do. I think
I think for some reason that got cut

1755
01:57:32.359 --> 01:57:35.960
from the YouTube versions though. If
people are curious, I have weird I've

1756
01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:39.319
got the backup somewhere. Mary.
What are you have going on on Sati

1757
01:57:39.359 --> 01:57:45.279
fire Escape. I'm back at work, which is nice. Uh, probably

1758
01:57:45.359 --> 01:57:50.159
just trying to play games, finish
my backlog. I basically took two weeks

1759
01:57:50.239 --> 01:57:54.840
off of playing games, so I'd
like to get back into it. Let

1760
01:57:54.920 --> 01:58:00.560
me know your recommendations. Hollow Case
of the Golden Knife and Hollow Night.

1761
01:58:00.640 --> 01:58:02.920
Yes, both of those are great. Play Diablo, play them together.

1762
01:58:03.119 --> 01:58:05.840
Dungeon Claller. It's just a demo
to early access, but it's very good.

1763
01:58:06.800 --> 01:58:13.239
You know, it's crazy like Terminal
obviously just a terrible, horrible,

1764
01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:17.800
nasty little troll. But I think
because of your experiences of having no memory

1765
01:58:17.840 --> 01:58:23.720
whatsoever, you're just not entirely sure. If you're just being stupid again,

1766
01:58:23.960 --> 01:58:26.760
I can't tell anymore. I don't
know half the time. I don't know.

1767
01:58:26.760 --> 01:58:29.880
If you're working with me, you
could be this dumb. It's all

1768
01:58:30.319 --> 01:58:33.119
to live. Yeah, it's an
interesting way to just go about and experience

1769
01:58:33.199 --> 01:58:38.560
the world. Who knows what's going
in in that dusty old cabasa of yours,

1770
01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:45.520
Dan, I don't know. Mary. You should play Platypus Adopted by

1771
01:58:45.560 --> 01:58:49.520
a Fox, really fun India Indie
game. India game. It's a Bollywood

1772
01:58:49.560 --> 01:58:54.760
game. You love it. It's
a boy. There was a long walk

1773
01:58:56.239 --> 01:59:02.840
the second game game. Dan,
you should play Dinosaur on roller skates.

1774
01:59:03.119 --> 01:59:05.840
That sounds great. I think I
printed it on Super Nintendo. You just

1775
01:59:06.039 --> 01:59:12.199
you ride around in an arena knocking
ringos off their feet and yeah, I

1776
01:59:12.239 --> 01:59:15.600
gotta collect all his balls. Yeah, you gotta collect all his seamen.

1777
01:59:15.039 --> 01:59:19.479
Yeah. Yeah, it was episode. I'm just here at fire Escape.

1778
01:59:20.640 --> 01:59:25.880
That's what I That's that's what I'm
together. Probably Flue Mike Maharty. Yeah,

1779
01:59:26.199 --> 01:59:31.600
I'm the glue. Glow grow Michelle
Big mic Ah Michelle, Dan the

1780
01:59:31.680 --> 01:59:38.560
wild card, and I'm here.
You're the muscle, You're the You're the

1781
01:59:38.640 --> 01:59:44.000
soldier. Yeah, the muscle I
picked up by my mic I hope it's

1782
01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:45.279
on the Audacity recording. But when
you said I was the wild card,

1783
01:59:45.319 --> 01:59:48.039
I farted like I heard that you
did. Okay, all right, please

1784
01:59:48.079 --> 01:59:53.079
go back and check that I did. That's my answer to the email.

1785
01:59:53.119 --> 01:59:55.279
That's something funny. I did that
no one noticed, and Dan, I

1786
01:59:55.399 --> 01:59:58.520
love that, Like I knew you
would have no answer to that because you

1787
01:59:58.720 --> 02:00:02.079
have this, you have this impulse
that everybody needs to know everything you did.

1788
02:00:02.840 --> 02:00:08.760
Yeah, you gotta alone. Every
time I heart I text Miyanka.

1789
02:00:11.520 --> 02:00:19.720
Her phone just just constantly vibrated.
Oh man, I've been doing some long

1790
02:00:19.920 --> 02:00:26.520
far lately. Oh cool, They're
fun early morning and I'm up. Something

1791
02:00:26.560 --> 02:00:30.800
about my Tosh is just not not
ready to let him go. It's like

1792
02:00:30.920 --> 02:00:36.039
no, it's like a string of
a part of the clip. Don't go.

1793
02:00:36.439 --> 02:00:43.119
I will just stay inside me,
stay inside me. No inside,

1794
02:00:43.960 --> 02:00:49.239
it says ringo. First, somebody
get it back in me, push it

1795
02:00:49.319 --> 02:00:54.239
back, push it back, push
it back in. I'll spread it for

1796
02:00:54.720 --> 02:00:59.359
get it back in me. Stop
stopp with the roos gates, stop the

1797
02:00:59.439 --> 02:01:05.239
circus. It inn't It's like tube, does it go back in the tube

1798
02:01:05.359 --> 02:01:09.680
let's hope not. Knock on wood, knock on the bar. We're back.

1799
02:01:09.800 --> 02:01:13.520
Fire Escapes back all right, see
you next episode. Bye bye,

1800
02:01:25.119 --> 02:01:30.560
m H.