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NBA Draft last night. Salty a
Adam Austlin joins us. So plugged into

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the NBA's sir, so plugged into
the NBA. Okay, thanks Bank app

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Nothing wrong with that. Okay,
there's a lot to get to. We'll

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get to the Lakers and the Clippers
picks. But for goo, those folks

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that don't know you and Kevin host
your own podcast. You have for years

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a podcast podcast and spin off of
PMS and R and R. Okay,

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well shoots that trying and you know
it is growing wildly. I mean people

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actually listen to the podcast you do
it so that shocks me. I don't

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like the way you said. Actually, well, I'm saying I don't think

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it is take time out of the
day to listen to that. That's what

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it sounds like to me. Know
what I'm saying is this, you know

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it's time. It's about time we
get Fred on the podcast. It doesn't

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it doesn't receive the promotion it should. That's what I'm saying. It should

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be highly promoted because people love it. Did I did I handle that?

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Okay? Yeah, you're right,
Fred, you're promoted right now, Adam.

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Yeah, because Rodney's been on once
or twice. I think. Yes,

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Rodney waited an hour after your show. We thought he was just going

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to call on the car phone driving
home. He waited to do it with

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us in studio. Took a lot
of time out of his day. Really

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nicest man. Love but love baby, that's real. I didn't know that.

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That's fake. He do. Put
your head down and ran out of

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the door as soon as we signed
off. Well there's that, I mean,

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christ Rodney would even come see me, guys. Wow, it was

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a different time, Fred, It
was a different timefent pre COVID. All

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right, So you you actually recorded
your podcast this morning, Adam, and

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I think you found some information out
there no one knows about. Well,

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we had Howard beck On and Kevin
astutely asked the most pertinent question regarding the

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Clippers because you know I'm not asking
it, and it was about Paul George

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and whether or not he could still
be traded. Obviously it didn't happen yesterday

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when there were already rumors out there
of him going to Portland for scoot and

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here was Howard beck On. It
Paul George I think is certainly available.

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They're not trying to give them away, but they are trying to pivot,

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and they do have a i think
a franchise wide frustration with the way that

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this era has gone. Those guys
are making a lot of money. They're

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both eligible to become free agents in
a year from now if they don't get

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extended. It's a precarious position they're
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run it back and say, well, you know what, this will be

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the year that we're going to stay
healthy. Maybe they are the perpetual If

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they stay healthy, they're a contender
team. So maybe it's the year and

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maybe you just decide to roll the
dice on it. But it wouldn't surprise

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me in the least given the contractual
situations, given the expense of both of

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those guys, it wouldn't surprise me
if they decided, you know what,

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let's commit to one and let's trade
the other. And it's not a complete

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reset and it's not a rebuild,
but it's just kind of a pivot.

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That wouldn't surprise me in the least. Howard AQ Sports and Locked on Podcast

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Network, it makes sense to me
Adam. Yeah, I don't think anyone

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would be surprised if they tried to
move on from one, or maybe they

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blow the whole thing up. After
what's gone on the last four years,

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it's been very frustrating for Clipper nations. Some of them want them to run

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it back and double down on the
two one three era and hopefully you get

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some good luck and some good fortune
when it comes to health. Others want

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to move on. But my question
has always been this, like what are

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you getting in return? Right,
what's the solution, what's the plan and

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what gets you closer to a championship? Is moving Paul George for Scoot and

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Anthony Simons If Portland even wanted to
do that or entertain that because they want

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to bolster the last few years they
have with Damian Lillard. When it comes

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to contending for a championship. Does
that make you better today? Does that

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get you closer to winning if you're
the Clippers bringing in young guys like that

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to surround Kawhi Leonard, I don't
know if it does. I think Paul

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George has somewhat become underrated because well
he's out of sight, out of mind

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at times. He wasn't there the
last two years where they were in the

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postseason. He missed the last game
two years ago when they missed Kawhi all

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season long where he was out with
COVID in the play and Tournament against the

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Pelicans, and then last season obviously
he went down with what we thought was

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a much more devastating knee injury.
He missed the last two months or whatever

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it was of the season. He
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But in twenty twenty one, when
Kawhi Leonard went down in that series

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against the Utah Jazz, he led
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first time in franchise history and put
the team on his back when they said,

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oh here we go playoff pe it's
gonna fall apart. He doesn't have

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Kauai, and he put up forty
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Suns in must win situations. So
it's not an easy decision by any stretch

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of the imagination whether or not you
should move on from Paul George, who

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went right, went healthy, gives
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But here's the way I look at
it. Adam if you're going to

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move on from one of them,
you might get something more for Paul George

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because Kawai may never play. At
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Kawhi just had a meniscus fixed again. Good lord? Yeah, every sad,

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right leg every time you turn around. So I think if the Clippers

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are going to do something, he'd
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Who's gonna trade for Kauai? Give
you anything? And it makes sense

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from Portland's standpoint if they want to
go all in with Damian Lillard to bring

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in a small forward like that that
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defensively is where they have struggled for
so long. Offensively, Portland's been good

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for a long time in the Damian
Lillard era. So when that report came

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out weeks ago that hey, they
might be interested in a small forward,

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people started to connect the dots.
But it sounds like even with them taking

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Scoot last night, they haven't talked
with Dame recently about his future and whether

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or not he wants to stay there
and feels like they are building a contender

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or if this is it. I'm
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of weeks. Damian Lillard at some
point is going to have to make that

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decision and likely wants out. It
looks like Kevin talked about this earlier too.

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There's kind of a stalemate. They're
playing chicken. Who wants to take

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the pr hit in Portland between Damian
Lillard in the front office, who wants

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to say either we're moving on from
Dame or Dame going coming out and saying,

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look, it's time I have to
leave because he's the most beloved Portland

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trailblazer in the history of their friends, I think, and that's a situation.

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I think Dame's got the upper hand
because he's the one that's been outspoken

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about staying there. He did stay
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what Portland did they draft a guy
that looks like it's his replacement. So

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now Dame's got oh, Okay,
the writing's on the wall. I gotta

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go, I gotta go. So
that's yeah. I would look at it

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as the fans with like, what
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him out of town? Yeah,
and they just don't want to take that

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backlas. But Dame also doesn't want
to look like he's disloyal all of a

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sudden, because he's been the guy
that doesn't want to run from the grind.

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He's called out all other superstars in
rap songs and in the media for

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running from the grind, and he
is my favorite non Clipper. By the

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way, I love Damian Lillard.
But I told you guys, coming into

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this summer, I think there's gonna
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being available that are stars or borderline
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Karl Anthony Towns, Damian Lillard,
and Bradley Beale. One of them has

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already been moved in Bradley Beale now
with Phoenix. I think Damian Lillard at

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some point this summer becomes available.
I think if teams call and ask about

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Karl Anthony Towns or Zach Lavine,
they are gettable. They are attainable with

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the right trade package. But if
we're going back to the Clippers now and

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talking about Paul George, it's just
a tough decision because you can say,

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well, we could bring in healthier
guys, but are they as talented as

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Paul George. Did they give you
the ceiling that Paul George does When he's

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right. And look, the team
that just won the championship, the Denver

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Nuggets had Jamal Murray coming off at
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the playoffs. Michael Porter's junior has
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college. He didn't miss a game
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bit of luck. It all came
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win it all. I think the
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look, we get the same good
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be able to do the same thing
absolutely. Adam, what do you think

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the psyche is with Paul George and
all these talks of him moving and gone

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and didn't work in LA and we
gotta move off with Paul George? Mentally?

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How is that going to be?
Is it taxing on him? You

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think? I don't know because we're
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just came out yesterday and Lawrence Frank
after their draft picks said, you know,

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we're still building around these two guys. So they could be telling the

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him, look, we're not moving
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the truth and everything we're talking about
his move right now doesn't mean anything.

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It's just reports and people staying relevant
in the me I don't know what's true

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and what's not if you're reading tea
leaves, if you're just trying to put

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together a narrative based upon some of
the particulars going on with the Portland Trailblazers,

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and that Paul George was name was
rumored with the New York Knicks too,

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that maybe he is gettable and it
makes a lot of sense. But

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I don't know how he's feeling right
now. We might find out on the

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next podcast podcast Peak coming up next
Monday. Just having your name in trade

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rumors. But guys have dealt with
this forever. There's two ways to go

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about it. We saw this with
the Lakers in twenty eleven. They thought

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they had the trade for CP three. Pau Gasol and lamar Odin were both

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out. The trade gets Knicks by
David Stern. They both have to return.

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Lamar Odin couldn't get couldn't get over
it. He couldn't get over the

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fact that they tried to trade him
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to Dallas. Pal said, Okay, it's a business. I'm a pro

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I'm gonna stay and make it work. And he was with the Lakers for

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a up more seasons. So there's
two different mindsets you can have as a

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player when you're being dangled out There
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All right, let's do Let's look
at the draft real quick here for

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both teams. We're on the Clippers. We'll start with the Clippers. Uh,

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Kobe Brown, Jordan Miller. What
do you think they got Kobe and

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Jordan? What more could you ask
for? I mean, that's the salty

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white coming with it. I'm not
the first to say they got a Kobe,

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they got a Jordan. When you're
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like the Clippers are, it makes
sense to draft guys who spent four years

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in college and are twenty three years
of age. You would hope more seasoning

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means they're more ready to make that
leap to the next level sooner than later.

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But I still don't anticipate them making
a big impact right now because as

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long as the two one three era
is still going and they're not blowing things

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up, it's be hard to get
on the court. Brandon Boston hardly played

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last season. You know there's a
glood of wings they have and forwards and

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guys who are just ahead of you
in the pecking order. So as much

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as we'd like to see okay,
Kobe Brown shot forty six percent last season

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with Miszoo from three, he's two
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a need at the four, I
believe, But is he going to be

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ready in time to contribute to a
team that has championship aspirations? I don't

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know. This is years down the
line stuff when you're talking about teams that

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aren't exactly rebuilding here in LA.
All right, let's do Lakers, Jalen

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Hood, Sfino and Maxwell Lewis.
What do you think Safino? I know

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they traded up to get him,
so they must believe in him. And

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look the Lakers and Rob Polinka for
all the incoming he took before this past

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trade deadline where everyone said he finally
did right. They've drafted really well for

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damn decade now, so I gotta
think they have a lot of confidence and

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the guy. But again it's the
same situation. How much is he gonna

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get on the court. Max Christy
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looked good at times this past season. With them just young players on a

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veteran team and a win now mode, it's going to be difficult. But

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I like the fact that they're both
combo guys that could be tweeners at the

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three or the four or the two, and their defensive oriented guys For the

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Lakers. I like the fact that
they went after these guys, didn't trade

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the picks, and said, all
right, let's get let's get organized here.

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We can't keep trading everybody we have
and bringing another guy. Let's start

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building and putting a foundation together.
I thought that was smart. Here's the

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thing for me, though, I'm
a bit of a draft dodger. You

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could say I'm not big on the
NBA draft because I've done the research and

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I have a memory. I remember
when Marcus Smart was being compared to Dwayne

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Wade offensively, he could be that
type of player. I remember when some

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of these other guys and high draft
picks, and who am I thinking of

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right now? I mean, the
Clippers have missed on a lot of guys

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in the first round. But the
point is ten years, one hundred picks

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from the year two thousand and six
to twenty sixteen one hundred picks in that

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first ten picks, so the most
sought after guys seventy percent of them,

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over seventy percent didn't even become All
Stars. There's bus every single year.

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More bombas who I was thinking of. They were talking about him being maybe

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another Anthony Davis. I don't think
that's the case. On Draft night,

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everybody gets talked about like they're going
to be an All Star and a Hall

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of Famer in the first thirty picks, and that's just unrealistic. So I

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don't get too caught up in it. There's gonna be bus. Yeah.

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I think when ban Yama is gonna
be amazing. I think Scoot is gonna

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be a lock, and Charlotte's gonna
regret not taking him. But outside of

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that, it's hard to say who
these guys are gonna turn out to be.

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You really think Charlotte's gonna regret it
is not in a position to take

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better fit over more talented play when
you got Lamello has missed sixty games already

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in her career. But LaMelo's a
better shooter, he's bigger, and with

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Brandon Miller, they played better with
each other. I just stills work.

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I'd rather if I'm a team and
didn't they run that, didn't they have

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c Jay McCollum there for all those
years? They did. But if I'm

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a team that is rebuilding, that
is starting from the ground up, I'm

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taking best player available position, be
damned, because we don't know what our

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future is going to look like anyways, and we're so young and we're gonna

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win twenty games next season. I'd
rather just try to figure it out with

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the most talented player with the highest
ceiling. I hear you. If that's

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if it's a big discrepancy on Brandon
Miller and Scoop, it might be,

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just don't I don't think it is. I don't think you're looking at like

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Webiniana and everybody else. Yeah,
that's a big gap, right, I

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don't think the gap with Miller two
and three was that great that you,

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Oh my god. We think the
players a lot of people, madam flip

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blop, like Brandon Miller shot thirty
percent his last eight games in college and

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was miserable in the tournament. I'm
just saying. And he thinks Paul George

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as the goat, which actually I
do kind of like. But he's obviously

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modeling his game after a guy that's
similar to him at six nine. I

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just at Michael Jordan has not had
a lot of luck when it comes to

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the draft. He hasn't, which
tells you a lot about what it means

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getting away from the game and how
much stock you should put it in opinions

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of former players. If the greatest
player ever can't evaluate talent in Michael Jordan,

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maybe we shouldn't put too much stock
in who that guy is in the

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front office. I don't know,
Salty a Adam awesome. Have a great

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weekend, and thank you for hanging
all right. I don't love you,

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guess all right, love you,
Rogan and rosy La sports good stuff from

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the Salty One today. Yeah,
Salty always franks it baby,