WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.199 --> 00:00:05.400 Karen, in your thoughts, in your estimations, are we alone in the 2 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:09.000 universe? No? You were not alone in the universe. Do you feel 3 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:11.880 that then you believe that aliens are out there? Yes? And you have 4 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:16.320 believe that they've been visiting us most likely? Yes? Okay, Well, 5 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:19.640 then do you feel that they're here to hurt us or help us? I 6 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:22.679 think they're here to help us. Okay, Well, why do you think 7 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:29.440 that these disclosure events haven't yet wielded any concrete evidence that we might indeed be 8 00:00:29.640 --> 00:00:33.840 experiencing visitations from beings not of this earth. Wow, that was a really 9 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:38.119 complicated way to ask the question. Do you not know me at all? 10 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:43.079 I find the most difficult way to ask a question that's me. I think 11 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:47.840 people would freak out. You think they'd freak out. They would freak out, 12 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:50.960 you know, all the movies, the Quiet Place, like all those 13 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:54.920 things. People would lose their minds. Any thoughts that maybe this is by 14 00:00:55.000 --> 00:01:02.159 design the fear very possibly? Well, what if I told you that there 15 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:07.480 was a movement today that aims to consciously call out and contact extraterrestrials, sometimes 16 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:15.560 with great success. I think that's cool yet scary. Our guest today believes 17 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:19.879 that we are definitely not alone, and that we are indeed the ancestors of 18 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:25.400 these intelligent beings. She's also here to tell us that contact is actually already 19 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:29.200 being withheld by those in power trying to keep us in fear. If you 20 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:34.359 are at all curious about the CE five movement disclosure, or whether these beings 21 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:38.280 are here to harm us or help us, then this is the show for 22 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:42.079 you. My name is Will and I'm Gar and unlike moulderin Scully, we 23 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:46.000 both want to believe you. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery. 24 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:49.000 We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world. We've thrown 25 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.159 ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a coven of witches and 26 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:57.519 wait, you joined a coven yep, all in the interests of finding something, 27 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:01.719 anything that will prove that there's something beyond this physical, three dimensional world 28 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:21.960 we all live in. This is the skepticis hey. This is Will with 29 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:24.759 a big question for you. Have you checked out the skeptic Matematician's inner circle 30 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:28.599 yet? If you like to show and the guests that we bring on, 31 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:31.280 then you definitely want to be a part of this. See the Inner Circle 32 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:36.520 is absolutely free to join, and it gives you an opportunity to not only 33 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:39.240 interact with Karen and I, but you'll also be able to engage with fellow 34 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:45.639 listeners like yourself. Think of it as our own little support community. 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Hey there, 49 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:47.680 I'm willing, and today we're going on a cosmic ride to find the truth. 50 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.120 Our guest today believes the US government has known about ET visitations for decades 51 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:59.479 and that they even have bodies, DNA samples, and crafts from them locked 52 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:01.919 away somewhere. Now. She feels that our government has hidden this until a 53 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:06.439 time when they could share the information as a means to create fear about these 54 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:12.439 visitors, when in essence, most who've been contacted believe these beings to be 55 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.960 friendly, that they're actually here to help us, and she even feels that 56 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:21.160 they've already stopped cataclysmic disasters occurring here on Earth. Wow, I am so 57 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:26.680 excited to talk to her. Welcome Rosemary Kimball to the show. Thanks for 58 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:30.600 being on, Thank you, thanks for having me. This is an exciting 59 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:35.199 topic for me. I've been a UFO and ET fan since my dad tuned 60 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:39.439 me into him when I was like six years old. I was gonna say, 61 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:41.839 I wish your dad was here. I know he would love this conversation. 62 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:46.000 It we've covered the topic of CE fives before, but in a long 63 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.480 time ago, and I'm really curious to update the information. I'm not even 64 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:55.199 sure where you want to start, So let's just start with the fact that 65 00:04:55.279 --> 00:05:00.639 you feel that, for sure we're not alone. True, and I believe 66 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:06.399 this because I have seen all kinds of things in my lifetime. Well, 67 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:16.199 I've got a press, I have seen UFOs, i have seen someone's shape 68 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:24.000 shift who I believe was an et. I have seen glowing a glowing orb 69 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:30.319 next to my bed that was definitely a being from not here. So yeah, 70 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:35.000 I have a lot of experience to look to that makes me believe and 71 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:41.560 that I'm sure they are here. The next to the bed thing is scary. 72 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.959 It was just like if it's daytime, you're just taking a nice little 73 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:46.959 daytime net. It was just an or though, So have you just seen 74 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.079 an orbit next to your bed? Well no, it was more like a 75 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:56.040 big, glowing green orbit. It wasn't just an orbit, it was like 76 00:05:56.079 --> 00:06:01.120 a It was probably the size of me. Okay, I'm out. You 77 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:04.040 read that book Communion, Yes, I did, and that was it kept 78 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:08.560 me up at night for weeks. College roomate to this day will not speak 79 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:11.680 to me because I would not let him turn off the light. My mom 80 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:13.720 took the book away from me. I was in high school and she came 81 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:15.120 in and realized I was sleeping every night with the light on it, and 82 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.319 she took the book away from me. I don't blame her. I wish 83 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:20.680 I hadn't read the book. Actually, I think it's probably ruined me the 84 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:25.639 ets. But that's a perfect jump off point, Rosemary. You think that 85 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:29.279 that's on purpose. Oh yeah, I am definitely sure that that being was 86 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:32.600 trying to communicate with me. But because I didn't know what it was, 87 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.040 I felt something next to me and I woke up from a dead sleeve to 88 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:41.839 see this, and I just said, you have to leave. I don't 89 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:44.319 know who you are, and I'm sorry, but you can't be here. 90 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.079 And then it was dawn like that, and so I listened to you. 91 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:51.600 Yeah, okay, so well, I think it was benevolent. Did it 92 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:56.399 make any sound or was it just you just felt the presence and woke up. 93 00:06:56.759 --> 00:06:59.560 Like when our daughter was little, she would sometimes come into our room 94 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:00.920 and I'd wake but you'd be standing there staying at the bed, which is 95 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:03.680 creepy, but like you feel that presence. Is that what it was like? 96 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:08.360 It was just like that. Okay, yeah, no, I knows. 97 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:11.399 That's why I say all the time I am ready to see a UFO. 98 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:14.879 I really I'm looking like I want to go one of these CE five 99 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:18.759 events because I really want to see a UFO. I am not yet ready 100 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:23.920 to see an alien standing next to my bed. I would be that would 101 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.800 be the last thing I would say, honestly, how about in the kitchen? 102 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.040 I still know I'm not making a PP and J. I mean that 103 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.120 would not be scary. Well, okay, but then again, I've watched 104 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.519 Resident Alien. I know how these types of aliens are making PB and J 105 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:41.399 actually mean for the humanity, that's a bad thing. So why do you 106 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:45.959 think we are led into the fear with all of these scary movies? What 107 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:50.199 is the purpose of that? I think the purpose is to keep us separated 108 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:55.839 from them, to start to believe that they are harmful and they're here to 109 00:07:56.079 --> 00:08:01.839 harm us, so that our own governments still have some control over us, 110 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:07.759 because if they knew that we were communicating with beings that are actually friendly and 111 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.839 care for us, it would take away from their control of us. We 112 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:20.480 might use them or have them help us more to be more independent and to 113 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:28.240 create like partnerships where we're not allowing the government to control in so many ways. 114 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.799 It's ironic because I don't know if it will make the final recording that 115 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:39.759 we put out there. But you're talking about governmental control and ets and things 116 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:43.279 while you have these beautiful little birds twittering in the background. It just kind 117 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:48.960 of it just seems off kilter somehow. Your backdrop is beautiful. I mean, 118 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:52.279 it's a it's a gorgeous area. When you are in an environment like 119 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:56.279 that, You've got birds twittering, you have beautiful trees behind you, beautiful 120 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:00.840 day. It looks like out there you don't think about the fact that there's 121 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:05.559 other things that are possibly watching you right now, and that there's governments out 122 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.159 there trying to prevent you from knowing that there are people or things watching you 123 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:18.320 right now. So when you say that you have seen UFOs, did you 124 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:24.440 see like a saucer or did you see lights? I saw lights. I 125 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:26.720 haven't seen them up close, but I've seen lights, and I've seen them 126 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:33.799 doing very bizarre things that I've watched enough to know what a satellite looks like 127 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.799 and know what a shooting star looks like, and to know the difference and 128 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:43.879 I've seen them so many times now that I can tell what's what okay? 129 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:50.879 So then why do these lights, these UFOs appear to certain people more than 130 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.559 they appear to others, like those of us who really want to see them. 131 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.559 I think it doesn't have so much to do with how badly you want 132 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.759 to see them, but how clear your channel is to be open to that. 133 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:07.080 It's like someone saying they want to get well and they want to be 134 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.840 healed, but they never because they're not always ready for that. So if 135 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:16.679 they want to get well and get healed, they really they don't always really 136 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.919 want that, or they could be well immediately. It's like they have to 137 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.120 have the channel and be ready and be fully open to it. The same 138 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:30.320 with the ets and psychic work. So like you will, I mean, 139 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:33.360 you say you want to see these UFOs, but you're really afraid of seeing 140 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.600 the alien in your room. So there's a disconnect. I'm being very I'm 141 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.399 being very specific. Well, yeah, but I think it's all or nothing. 142 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.960 Maybe, well, that's not I want to see the alien at four 143 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.480 o'clock on Tuesday. Why not? I mean, that's the only time I 144 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:48.799 got say, But it's probably not going to happen. Well that because to 145 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:50.919 see five events. We've had someone talk about THEE five events where you go 146 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.960 in the middle of the field and you meditate and you bring you call them 147 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:58.240 to you, and you said that you have had great success with that kind 148 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.600 of thing. First of all, where are you located? So I'm located 149 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.639 in Decatur, Georgia. It's a suburb of Atlanta, Okay. And is 150 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:11.039 this where you do the five events? Yes? Go behind us a beautiful 151 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:16.559 farm that we have. I live in a small community that feels like you're 152 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.080 not in the city. So walk me through the process of one of these 153 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:22.279 events. Is it a big group and you sit and meditate? How does 154 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.320 that work? I'm so curious. So it's a small group because it's such 155 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:31.360 an obscure thing. I don't broadcast it to my whole network or put it 156 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:37.080 on social media. We have between four and eight people show up and basically 157 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:43.519 we will sit in the field usually and we'll do a meditation one of the 158 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:48.200 protocols taught by Stephen Greer, who started the C five movement, and you 159 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.679 just imagine yourself in out of space looking down at the Earth, what the 160 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.639 Earth looks like, and then you visualize yourself getting closer to the earth, 161 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.279 getting closer to your country, your state, your city, the yard you're 162 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:05.799 in. So you're giving them a visual representation of exactly where to find you. 163 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:09.840 But I always start out with sending a lot of love, just a 164 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:16.639 whole lot of unconditional love to them, and inviting only benevolent right, So 165 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:18.919 you some of the guns, you stay away. We just want the good 166 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:28.200 guys, right, So it's interesting you actually are connecting psychically with these beings 167 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:31.279 and telling them exactly where you are. Any fear you mentioned starting with love 168 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.080 and electronic stuff, but sometimes right that love is full, but then that 169 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:41.639 little sneaking, little weird sneaks in, and also that one with that one 170 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.720 asshole t T comes in. Right, Any fear that would happen, No, 171 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.840 because if you think about it, it's the same with life. Am 172 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.039 I afraid that if I walk outside and cross the street, I'm going to 173 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:58.080 get hit by a car? That's a possibility, Yes, I am. 174 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:05.120 I'm not right, right, So I guess that's right. But gosh, 175 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:09.080 I mean back to the very beginning of the conversation, all the programming that 176 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:13.240 we've had, all the movies and TV shows, and books and everything to 177 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.600 talk to us about the ets are here to harm us and to take over 178 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:20.519 the world, or to eliminate us all together. It took a lot of 179 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.639 guts for you to say the first time, Yeah, come come get me, 180 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.480 I'm here. What made you decide to do that? Because of the 181 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:33.600 experiences I've had, I've only felt love from them, and I believe that 182 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.120 they are here to help, and that they've been here for thousands of years. 183 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:43.759 I believe we're there are ancestors, that we are some sort of you 184 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.720 know, breed of them somehow. So do you think it could be possible 185 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:50.879 when you're doing your meditation, you're going like out into space and you're looking 186 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:56.240 down on the Earth, you're actually connecting with your higher self in the ancestral 187 00:13:56.279 --> 00:14:01.799 alien form. I think that's yeah, it's entirely possible, and it probably 188 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:07.000 is what's happening. Yes, And so hmm, see's not going to come. 189 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:13.639 Did you meet me three years ago? Well, then you open up 190 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.600 a whole other can of worms. Some people believe that these folks, these 191 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.120 folks, these beings are actually from outer space. They're in from different planets, 192 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.279 things like that. Other people believe that the multi dimensional being to come 193 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.399 from other dimensions. Some people believe that they live under the ground here on 194 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:37.559 the planet. Other people believe that it's just other governments testing a new fangled 195 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.919 aircraft out there. And in the disclosure events that they had in Congress here 196 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:46.720 in the US a little while ago, what they said was, Yeah, 197 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:48.360 there's stuff out there. We don't understand what they are. We don't know 198 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.600 what they are, but there is stuff out there, but there is possibility 199 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:56.879 that it could be a foreign entity doing some test runs. Right. Well, 200 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:01.360 I think it's all of those things. I think it's all the above. 201 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:07.039 Oh, imagine how many universes and how many planets there in the world. 202 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:11.080 Were so ignorant to think that there aren't any, or that there is 203 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:13.919 only just one. What if there's dozens. What if they're doing all kinds 204 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:20.600 of things and they come in a lot of different forms and they're all benign 205 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:24.440 like all. No, I don't think they all are, Okay, but 206 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:31.120 I don't I don't focus on negative or scary things. I never watched the 207 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:35.519 news. I know enough about the news to know there's terrible things happening in 208 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.720 the world. I don't need to know more. I know there's bad people 209 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:46.840 and bad entities, so I just really focus on bringing in positive and loving 210 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:52.000 beings into my world. How did you first communicate with them? Did I 211 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:58.559 seem they have an understanding they just started communicating with me. Did you did 212 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:03.399 you like hear something or was it inside your head or a feeling? Well, 213 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:07.320 it gets a little confusing because I'm also a psychic medium, and so 214 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:11.320 I'm connecting with different kinds of entities. So when I first started connecting with 215 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:17.120 them, it was really seeing the lights in the sky, one light and 216 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:19.240 then two come up behind it, creating a triangle that just sat in the 217 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:25.120 sky above a mountain, low in the sky, and then just shot across 218 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:30.519 the sky and a triangle altogether. Recently, I had an experience where I 219 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:34.639 was on a vision quest. There were no hallucinogenics or anything involved, just 220 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:41.039 me in the middle of the wilderness alone. You've heard our show before extending 221 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:45.799 because you knew that was given them a next question? So what happened? 222 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:51.759 Was I Part of my intention for that particular vision quest was I wanted to 223 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:56.320 connect more with the etis because I do believe there are ancestors and they have 224 00:16:56.360 --> 00:17:00.000 a lot to teach us. And so I'm laying there. I saw several. 225 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:02.919 But at one point, I'm laying there and I'm looking at the sky 226 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:07.720 and I see this shooting star. It goes in one spot, and then 227 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:11.359 I see another one that comes in the exact same spot. And there's twenty 228 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:15.799 seven that do that in less than a minute and one exact spot in the 229 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:23.160 sky. Wow, m And I knew that's them. Yeah. See, 230 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:26.880 I want that. I want to see that. I want to I want 231 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:30.720 that. I'm going to Decatur. It'll be freaked out. You would sleep 232 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:33.839 with one eye open, not if I saw those lights. If you're like, 233 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:34.920 that's that's that, I'm good with it. I'm good with that. 234 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:38.240 I just don't want to be they follow me home. But oh damn it, 235 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:42.519 I hadn't thought of it. Now you've ruined it all for me. 236 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:49.400 Oh man, all right. So you've never had any fear in these these 237 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:55.079 contacts, are these communications? You've always just felt this love. Well, 238 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:59.960 the first time I had contact, it scared me in a way that also 239 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.319 it really frightened me. And when I say contact, I mean like I 240 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:07.680 interacted with a being other than the one beside my bed. So I was 241 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:12.400 on a mountain in Arizona with the other group of people, and we met 242 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:17.960 this amazing person who now I believe was probably an Eta himself, just this 243 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.920 really magical light being, and he was the first one to start talking to 244 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.119 me about aliens and the snake racing all this, and at one point he 245 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:27.599 says, well, I'm going to go up on top of this mountain and 246 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:33.720 wait for the mothership tonight if you all want to go with me and to 247 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:40.359 serve man didn't immediately jump to mind it. It sounded like, okay, 248 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:42.799 well, this guy is already so amazing. Of course I want to spend 249 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:45.880 more time with him, even if there's no mothership. And he doesn't know 250 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:51.799 what he's talking about. He's he might be crazy, but he's cute, 251 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:56.799 so I'm gonna hang out. So we all went up there and we're sitting 252 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.640 up there and it's the middle of the night, and again no hallucin engines, 253 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:04.279 nobody's high or drinking or anything. And all of a sudden, I'm 254 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:07.960 sitting next to this girl. My best friend's sitting on the other side of 255 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:11.680 her, and this girl goes, you, guys, I don't know what's 256 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.640 going on to me with this thing keeps happening immulately that I don't understand that 257 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:19.160 she's acting really afraid, and she's like, my ear is my ear is 258 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:26.680 turning into it's like turning into a point, and so I reach over to 259 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.720 see what she's talking about. I feel her ear and it is shape shifting 260 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:33.839 into this long pointed ear, like an elf ear, Like I can feel 261 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:40.079 it in my hand, shaving and shape shifting. No, no drugs, 262 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:44.319 no nothing. No, you were completely sober, straight, and it was 263 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:49.079 shape shifting at your fingertips. Yes, wow, So did the rest of 264 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:53.519 her shape shift or no, just that one part. And my best friend 265 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:57.359 was there and she checked too. Everyone else in the circle was stunned. 266 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:00.920 And when they all just sat there looking at us, it was a little 267 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:07.920 unnerving but also incredibly fascinating, and like I didn't really know how to respond. 268 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:11.400 I just Chris, I feel I feel your pain. I don't know. 269 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:17.720 You don't know if you should be afraid or I mean, that thing 270 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:22.200 felt like bad or malevolent. I think if it was my ear, i'd 271 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:25.079 be a little freaked out. Like I don't know if I could have just 272 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:30.799 sat there and said, guys, I think I think she was an et 273 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:36.039 and she was that was happening to her because she couldn't maybe help it, 274 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.920 or she was trying to show us this is possible, but do it in 275 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:41.799 a way so we wouldn't be afraid, like not just say, oh, 276 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:45.279 I'm an alien, look at me shin shifting. Do you think do you 277 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:48.960 think that she knew for sure that she was an eta and she just was 278 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:51.960 because I mean it would have been I don't know, I think at this 279 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:57.880 point now I think so, yes, then the situation, Okay, I 280 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:02.759 don't even know what to say that that's that's the wildest thing I've ever heard. 281 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:07.400 That's incredible. It will change your life forever when something like that happens. 282 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:11.039 Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, So good question, Karen. Did the 283 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.920 mothership actually come? No, the mothership never came. So he was crazy. 284 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:19.799 We all got incredibly No, he wasn't crazy. He was he was 285 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:22.640 really amazing. I think he was an eaty I really do. But we 286 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.640 all suddenly got really, really sleepy. It was just one of the things 287 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:33.119 that happens when they're around. You're going into this dream state, and we 288 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:36.519 all got so sleepy. We just fell asleep right there on the ground and 289 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:40.319 woke up the next morning and we were still there. Wow. That makes 290 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:45.000 mean wow the last three weeks for me, I'm always so tired. Did 291 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.319 everyone fall asleep at the same time, like y'all just passed out or was 292 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:49.519 it just like, oh, you were here as well? I can't remember. 293 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:53.440 I don't think there was any more conversation. I think we were all 294 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:59.720 stunned and we just sat there thinking and fell asleep. Did you check for 295 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:03.160 tracking devices and things that you know? You hear all these things about when 296 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:07.599 everybody passes out at the same time, it's because they want to bring them 297 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:11.359 into the ship to like not do tests on them, but do tests on 298 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:15.839 them right, and install the track and follow you around. This was like 299 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:21.599 twenty five years ago before I had any idea about any of this, and 300 00:22:21.640 --> 00:22:26.279 we were just so stunned. We didn't even know what to do. All 301 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:29.759 right, Well, I've got a lot of questions still, and I know 302 00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:30.720 I do do too, because I just cut you off. I'm sorry, 303 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:33.200 Karen, but we got to take a break. We're already past time. 304 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.240 When we come back, we're gonna keep going down this rabbit hole. But 305 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:41.000 then we're also going to talk a little bit more about these cataclysms that you 306 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:45.720 feel have been averted already by the zts and maybe make a correlation. You 307 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.559 tease it a little bit earlier about the fact that you were also a spirit 308 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.920 medium some of the things that you do. Let's talk about some of that 309 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:56.680 because it could maybe have a connection. We'll dive into all that and so 310 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:14.640 much more when we come back right after these quests. Hey, everyone, 311 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.680 before we got back to the show, I wanted to share a new five 312 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:22.519 star review that we got on Apple Podcasts today. Well not today, that 313 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:26.119 was a while back, but I'm sharing it with you today. 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So 321 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:57.839 I can't thank you enough for taking the time to leave us a review. 322 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:00.039 And if you'd like to hear your review right on the air, just go 323 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.680 to the Apple podcast like Susan gold is Magical, and feel free to leave 324 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:07.599 us a five star review there. Let us know what you feel about the 325 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:14.839 show. Welcome back to the Skeptic of Physicians. We are talking to Rosemary 326 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.880 and she is she's going to make me not be able to sleep tonight. 327 00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:26.440 Basically, we're talking about ets and UFOs and Andy years, people turning into 328 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.920 vulcans. There's all kinds of stuff that's going on now. One thing that 329 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.839 you mentioned in the conversation that we didn't I didn't call out, but I 330 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:34.599 really wanted to. So I want to take a minute to do that. 331 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:40.359 The dude that you said that was taking you to go see the mothership mention 332 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:45.920 something about the snake people, the snake tribes snay something right then, I 333 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:48.039 think it would have been enough for me to run the other direction. Did 334 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:52.680 you not think about that? Well? No, because I've always been interested 335 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:59.759 in the paranormal and anything different, So it made me want to stay and 336 00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.880 here or more actually, because I've never heard of this before that, what 337 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:07.519 there's ets living among us? Really, yeah, but specifically snake eats. 338 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:14.759 That's what like like of snakes. I love all animals. The snakes don't 339 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:18.039 bother me. Oh yeah, that's that's yeah, that's the problem. Yeah, 340 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:23.279 I have no issues with snakes either. Well. Yeah, the only 341 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:26.400 thing that was scary more than than a snake would be a big fat spider. 342 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:32.079 One of the attics. Anyway, don't scare me either. You are 343 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:37.799 very brave woman. But maybe it's because you actually are an animal communicator too. 344 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.799 That might make sense because they're actually talking to you, saying to you, 345 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:41.839 No, everything's cool, I'm not going to bite you, right. 346 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:45.759 Oh, can you come and talk to the spider and tell them to go 347 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.000 away? Can you make the Can you communicate with insects too? Can you? 348 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:52.519 Yes? My god, Okay, we need to talk to you after 349 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:55.319 this because we got the big spider up here that we need. We need 350 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:59.599 him to go somewhere else because I can right there. Yeah, and I'm 351 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:02.920 phrasing jump on you. So all right. So then, Karen, right 352 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:03.920 before the big you had a question, I cut you off. I did 353 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:08.119 so. Rosemary was telling us how this situation with people falling asleep, and 354 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:12.880 everything happened about twenty five years ago, and I'm wondering, how has your 355 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:18.680 view or your thoughts on ET's changed from then to now. Great question. 356 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:23.799 I don't think it's changed much. I think it's about the same. That 357 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:30.319 they are here, and there may be some benevolent ones, but they I 358 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.720 think they're mostly good. I mean, if you think about who they are 359 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:40.000 and what they are, they have to be more advanced than us because they've 360 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:44.839 created crafts to travel the universe. And I don't think you can be more 361 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:52.720 advanced without being more aware or more enlightened or I don't know the right word, 362 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:57.640 but of a higher vibration than humans are. So what about like sasquatch 363 00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:02.279 and things like that? Are they eats or they? Is it something else? 364 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:06.680 Completely? No, those are interdimensional beings, you know, I don't 365 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:10.480 know anymore they could be. How do we I mean, we're trying to 366 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:14.000 define all these things. It's all like a part of the great mystery. 367 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.960 Why are we trying so hard to define it? Because because you're on the 368 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:22.319 skeptic metaphysician, that's why we need to know. We need to know wants 369 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:26.279 to know. I mean, you hear all kinds of reports about whenever someone 370 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.119 sees a sasquatch, a lot of times it's connected to a lot of UFO 371 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:33.359 sidings in the area. So, right, it's been like an escaped Maybe 372 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:40.079 they're an ancestor, Like we're an ancestor. We aren't traveling in ships yet, 373 00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:44.960 maybe some of us are. But maybe just because I'm an ancestor doesn't 374 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.079 mean I know how to do all that. Oh that's true. Okay, 375 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:49.319 that's a fair point. There's some smart people here and some not so smart 376 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.680 people. They can all have kids. You don't talking about in this room, 377 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:59.680 right exactly, because I don't want to know which one I am. 378 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:06.039 Well, then you talked about the fact that you not only do you believe 379 00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:10.759 that ets have been here for a long time, you also believe that there 380 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.359 are cover ups. We've heard that before, that a lot of people are 381 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:18.559 talking cover ups. But then you also believe that these ets might have already 382 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:26.759 actually averted certain cataclysms on the planet. What makes you think that, first 383 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:32.759 of all, just the research I've done, the stories I've heard. I 384 00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:37.319 guess it's maybe easier for me to believe things because I've had these experiences but 385 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:42.200 from what I understand, there are times when they'll come into an army base 386 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:48.000 and maybe there's a nuclear reactor that's starting to go a little haywire, and 387 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.160 they're able to just shut it off, and then when the backup systems come 388 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:56.240 on that is supposed to keep it running, those get shut off, and 389 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:02.160 they'll see the craft there and know that something is changing. And that's what 390 00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:06.559 makes it over been so afraid that they can't control something that can turn off 391 00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:10.680 their nuclear weapons, and that's why they're having such a hard time with it. 392 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.680 I did I did hear in one of those congressional hearings the expert finally 393 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:19.400 said, that's there was the one thing that said, Ah, they finally 394 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:23.559 said, we don't know what it is, but we do feel these craft 395 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:30.759 are not from this world. Okay, But what they're leaving out and makes 396 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:36.319 us so afraid is why can't you just say they're actually friendly, they haven't 397 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.960 done anything to harm us. Yeah, well, you know I've heard about 398 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.519 the what is that project? I forgot what it's called, where they're going 399 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:48.480 to be staging a fake alien invasion to get us back on the control or 400 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:49.759 get us prepared or something along those lines. I forgot what it's called. 401 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.119 There's a there's an actual name for it. That they have this project ready 402 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.759 to go. Yeah, they're going to be using like high technology holograms to 403 00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.279 make it look like they're actually invading yourself something like that, and they'll beat 404 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:04.240 them back and there would just be such crazy chaos. It would make things 405 00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:11.480 even worse. Have you seen them? Part of what this movement about is 406 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:18.200 about the CE five is to invite people to see that we don't have to 407 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.319 believe all these movies and these things that are just showing them as angry, 408 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:29.799 mean beings that we actually can communicate and they send a lot of love back. 409 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:36.400 So the idea is to learn and to teach people that these are actually 410 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:40.000 friendly, the majority of them. Do you remember that movie with Jodie Foster 411 00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:42.240 Contact, I don't think they were. They weren't bad. I I saw 412 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:45.880 it so long ago, but they weren't bad in that way. No, 413 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.440 And in fact, also I was at the arrival. They were actually helping 414 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:56.119 them as well. There have been to be fair, there have been several 415 00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:00.319 films that have been on the opposite spectrum, which I applaud, But when 416 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.240 you look at history, it's mostly been fears and people are drawn to that 417 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.960 drama and terror. It's true, that's why news is mostly about that. 418 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:12.519 I mean, when there's good news, that's a good point. Yeah, 419 00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:15.160 it doesn't doesn't get ratings, right, Yeah, there was. They did 420 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.519 a show the good news and it didn't it didn't last long at all, 421 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.119 right, right, but that was so I liked it. It was a 422 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.200 okay, So let's talk about the CE five movement because that sounds fascinating. 423 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:32.799 Could just anybody do this? Or are there specific places that you need to 424 00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:36.680 go to do this? I know doctor Greer started it, but how do 425 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:42.759 I experience it in the downtown Norfolk, Virginia? So I would suggest you 426 00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:48.200 go to this website called ET Let's Talk. Well, there's a website called 427 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:53.799 et Let's Talk. Is there an ET phone home too? Well, it's 428 00:31:53.920 --> 00:32:00.000 like that. There's a record player. Cool, So okay, so it's 429 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.359 so eat let's talk. And then and then you can look at the map 430 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:08.720 because every month they do a global communication, a global global CE five And 431 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:13.000 if your group happens to be doing it on that same day, then you 432 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.720 get you put yourself on a map, so you can look at the map 433 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.880 and see what groups are nearby you and then reach out to them to ask 434 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.599 if you can join. I am doing that tonight. I'm looking on that 435 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:28.200 site tonight. That can be Oh I'm so excited. That sounds so cool. 436 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.359 Where they can follow you home? No stop, stop, why do 437 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:35.880 you do that? I was finally forgetting that point. But it'll be the 438 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:43.680 good ones that follow you home. Put the loving vibration right. So is 439 00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:47.000 it is it in only in like deserted areas? What did big fields? 440 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:50.599 Or can it be right in the middle of a city. It can be 441 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.160 anywhere. It can be in a house. I mean sometimes we it's raining 442 00:32:54.240 --> 00:33:00.839 and we just get together anyway because we can speak telepathically with them so you 443 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.960 don't have to see lights. It could be done anywhere. So can you 444 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.720 make it? Can you make a request like e T let's talk but not 445 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:17.119 in person. Well, they'll they'll decide how they want to. They'll decide 446 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:24.319 what is appropriate for you. There's a road do well what I can handle. 447 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:27.680 They'll know what I can handle. They know that I can't handle them 448 00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.680 showing up with my doorstep, not my doorstep, on my on my by 449 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.480 the side of my bed. That would be That would be bad, but 450 00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.559 I would, I really, I've I'm and there have been times i'm I'm 451 00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.720 outside, I'm looking up and I'm like, like making it happen. I'm 452 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.279 here, I'm going to see. I'm going to see. I'm going to 453 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.559 see that. That's then nothing, nothing. So I'm going to try this 454 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.440 website. See that helps it and the view the meditation where you're coming from. 455 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.880 I didn't do that. I didn't do that. And a lot of 456 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:57.920 love. You want to send a lot of love. Right, they're attracted 457 00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.119 to that vibration. Okay, that's very cool. I may not be read. 458 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.279 These conversations make me feel so much better about that. Right, that's 459 00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.039 good. That's why I have them. That's good. That's why I bring 460 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:12.280 them on board. But okay, so interesting question. I think anyway, 461 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:17.719 you are an animal communicator also death duela for both animals and humans. Any 462 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:23.480 thoughts that maybe you can connect so easily because you can communicate with animals, 463 00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:29.480 and maybe ets could have some sort of connection like that with you. I 464 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.480 think so, I think that helps. I think they sometimes come in a 465 00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:37.320 form that looks like an animal so that we are more open to relating to 466 00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:44.119 them. We had a ce five here once where owls came and surrounded us 467 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.159 in the trees. There were at least three owls in the trees. Owls 468 00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:52.159 are a form they often come in. Wow, that would be cool. 469 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.079 I would totally be on board. Okay, But hang on a second, 470 00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:58.800 because I have, like mentioned earlier, I was big time into UFOs. 471 00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:00.440 My dad got me into when I was very young. So I read a 472 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.360 lot of stuff and I did the whole Project Blue Book thing. And there 473 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.360 is a lot of people. There's a lot of writings that talk about when 474 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:14.440 you see a white owl, especially a lot of times it is an implanted 475 00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:20.000 memory that is there in place of what actually happened, which is when they 476 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.199 took you to their ship to do stuff. Have you heard about that. 477 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.280 I have heard about that. Yes, And you think it's total crap. 478 00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:31.119 No, I don't at all. Maybe they're not taking you to the ship, 479 00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:35.000 but maybe they just want you to freak out when you remember an owl 480 00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.679 is just cool and wise would freak out about now. But then they've done 481 00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:43.800 regression hypnosis, hypnotic regressions and they actually got to the actual memories and it 482 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.159 was a little scary. Oh, and I don't think they're taking people to 483 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:52.199 ship so much anymore because that frightened people so badly. M Okay, I 484 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.119 think maybe they are here and there, but I think there was like a 485 00:35:55.119 --> 00:36:00.239 period when they were just trying to learn a lot and they figured out that 486 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.280 it scared us and they don't want to do that. Well, you put 487 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.679 something weird in me. I wake up and you've got all these things and 488 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:13.079 strange things around me with not understanding. I can't move and I can't talk. 489 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.480 I can't that it would scare anybody. It would scare of them, 490 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:17.400 right, you don't think it will scare them. Why would they do in 491 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.519 the first place, Well, we do it to animals all the time. 492 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.360 That's maybe they thought they were Maybe that's what they thought the equivalent they could 493 00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.840 they have. Well, no, because then if we're if we're their ancestors, 494 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.519 they should know that we're their answer, right, not animals. But 495 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:35.360 maybe they don't react the same as us to things, and they wouldn't. 496 00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.199 Maybe they thought we weren't going to react the way we did because they don't 497 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:44.079 react that way. Okay, that's a fair point too. They give us 498 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:49.840 a lot of credit. Yeah, all right, so they learned, so 499 00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:53.280 I one thing is for sure. There are a lot of questions that are 500 00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.679 not going to be answered just by us having a conversation, but it's really 501 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.840 fun to talk about. So thank you so much for thanks for having me. 502 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:05.480 If somebody so we already know about e T let's talk dot com. 503 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:10.760 If somebody was interested in joining your group indicator, are you open to that 504 00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.679 or you're like nope, I am no, I'm open to it. Just 505 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:19.760 find me my website as Visions and Reflections dot com. I don't mention any 506 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.840 of that on there, so just send me a message and I'll be in 507 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.840 touch. Tell them you saw her on the Skeptic Metaphysicians and she'll know what 508 00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.840 that means. Okay, we're going to alien hunting. Hunting, I mean 509 00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.519 in a good way, seeking much better, We're going alien seeking. Okay. 510 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.719 So, and that's also the same place people can go if they want 511 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:44.920 to talk to you about animal communication. Correct, correct, Yes, Okay, 512 00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.280 awesome, Old Rosemary, thank you so much for coming on and talking 513 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:50.440 with us. The time is flown by. I could have talked to you 514 00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.280 for another five days easily. Have to live with him. I'm just putting 515 00:37:53.280 --> 00:38:00.800 that out there. Yeah, we do you need to talk about Skinwalker Ranch, 516 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.400 which is where people are things actually follow you from there. But that's 517 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.400 another story for another topic, of another story. It's another time. 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