The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big Fight Weekend. Now
here is your host. DJ leaves well off of a fight in Las Vegas.
They call it a fight that left a whole lot to be desired.
We are in to recap what happened with Taya Fimo Lopez. It is the
Big Fight Weekend preview. We don't really have a whole lot to preview,
and we don't really have a whole lot to recap from Taya Femo's defense of
his WBO Junior Welterweight championship. I am the somewhat capable host TJ. Reeves.
He is Dan Rayphiel, and we are here. Thank you for finding
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podcast outlets, Apple, Spreaker, Spotify. We've got a lot to get
to with what happened in Vegas or didn't happen in Vegas, and it stayed
in Vegas and those that went there wish that they probably did not go in
Vegas. But that's okay. We're going to talk about that. We've got
some fight news, we've got some nostalgia, all right. You know,
we speak the truth on this podcast. We can't really sugarcoat this or spin
it any other way. We don't work for top rank, We don't work
for the WBO or ESPN. Boring, boring title fight with Tayo Fimo Lopez,
I have put it on a platter for you, my friend, blast
Away. Maybe the nicest thing I can say about it was, at least
it was better than the Shakhor Stevenson Edwin de los Santos fight, which is
not saying much, but it was better than that. It was a bad
fight. The styles didn't mesh, but Ortiz fought the way he had to
fight to do what he came to do, which was try to win the
title. And it was apparent from the first bell because he is a right
handed fighter, typically he came out in a south bust style. He to
my recollection, never switched to the orthodox style. T Femo Lopez had absolutely
no idea what to do with it, which was rather shocking. And Timothy
Bradley matched this, and it was pretty obvious because when he he had one
of his, if not his greatest singular performance of his career in his previous
fight in June, when he won the junior welterweight title, the lineal and
the WBO title. He did so against a south and Josh Taylor. Now
they're not the same kind of fighter specifically, but they still fight out of
the same stance. And he just had no idea what to do with Ortiz,
who I thought won the fight, and to give Tiafimo Lopez you know,
one fifteen one thirteen. I mean, I don't agree with it.
I could get it, I guess, you know, the one seventeen one
to eleven scorecard from Steve Weisfeld, who I have massive respect for, who
I do consider the best judge in boxing. Presently, I may have to
give my good man Steve a call just to hear his viewpoint because I strongly
disagree with that that particular, that particular scorecard. You know, Tifimo,
I don't think there was not a single round in that fight that I thought
he clearly won. Now, I gave him some rounds, but I didn't
think he won any of them clearly. And Ortiz, while his offense was
not to be desired, as was Tiafimo Lopezz, neither one of them or
anything spectacular at all, if anything. But the point is, and this
is important about boxing, when all else is equal, and neither guy is
doing anything offensively to speak of walking forward is not does not get the job
done when the other guy, clearly by the way that he boxed, controlled
where the fight took place, the pace to fight took place at when he
moved, when he threw punches, made the other guy miss. Not just
miss, but there were wild swinging misses that Tiafimo Lopez made, So you
know it was it pretty absolutely not, but you know it was effective from
the standpoint that he was controlling everything about the fight and barring any particular offense
from Lopez. I didn't think you couldn't give Ortiz the rounds. I didn't
love giving them to him because it was a shitty fight, but I thought
he's certainly based on the technical aspect of what it was, hit, don't
get hit whatever that he did enough. I mean the punch that's you know,
we were kind of close to each other. I mean they're terrible.
Terrible landed seventy eight punches and Orties landed eighty. They both landed about the
same percentage either, I mean one one round, uh, t Fimo Lopez
landed double figure punches. Other than that, in the other eleven rounds he
did not, and Ortiz didn't land or two rounds I guess officially, and
the other and the other fighter didn't land double figure punches in any of the
rounds. If one round, let me tell you what they want, and
they have it right in front of TMO. Lopez landed double digits in two
rounds, round number seven and round number twelve, and Ortiz landed double digits
in round number twelve. But the thing that galls me about the score is
that the three judges all gave Tia Fimo Lopez the final three rounds. I
gave Ortiz two of the last three rounds, so I definitely disagree with that.
I will just add I don't think either fighter deserved to win. I'd
have been perfectly fine with a draw. Neither one of them did enough to
win. And again the criticisms are back of Tea Fimo Lopez. I thought
this immediately. I almost texted it to you as you and I are doing
this late night Thursday, when the orchestrated ring entrance with the circus performers and
him in the Greatest Showman outfit, which, by the way, I don't
know how familiar you are with that film, but it resonates in my head
because it's on in my house. Even two years or three years after it's
come out, they keep watching it. My wife and my twins. We
have the soundtrack on CD. They keep singing all the songs. As soon
as I heard the music, I'm like, he's coming out as the greatest
showman is Hugh Jackman from the movie. It looked to me like he cared
more about that and had worked on that more. And obviously as the fight
went on, he worked on that more than tactics and how to cut the
ring off. So I had a bad feeling as soon as I snucking it.
I'm not gonna give an agree for that. I mean, I appreciate
the fact that tia Fimo wants to entertain the crowd, and you can feel
his frustration at times in the fight, because Ortiz was out boxing him in
my opinion, and there were times where Lopez just stopped and motioned him to
come to him, And there was one point where Ortiz said fine, and
he went right to him, and he actually smacked Hi around a little bit
when he when he did that. So I don't a little bit, right,
Yeah, I don't have a problem with with Lopez, uh, you
know, showing to be a showman, but you kind of got to back
it up a little bit. And you know, they made the point repeatedly
in the broadcast, which was one hundred percent correct, and I agreed with
it. And I was thinking that to myself also, that he just can't
cut the ring off. He's going the wrong direction, he's circling the wrong
way. It looked like it looked like the Sander Martin fight to an extent.
Uh, it looked like a guy that again I don't know, and
I know Timothy Bradley said this during the fight that they they could not get
it out of Ortiz as to what any of his strategy would be and what
he would do. So maybe Lopez was surprised by him fighting South Paul,
but still you got to be ready for that big because he fell out after
the third round. For the fourth round, you got to have some clue
as to how to do something different. He didn't jabb enough. What I
know, he didn't. It was twelve rounds that was exactly the same,
exactly didn't enough, didn't have any urgency, didn't do anything. And so
the other thing if you're if you're trying to figure out who won the fight,
who imposed their style, it was very clear. I just did not
have a game plan, and Ortiz had a very specific plan that he implemented
to a tee and he did it for the entire fight. That alone is
worth uh, you know credit when you're when you're scoring those rounds. So
you know, I didn't agree with that. I tell you one thing,
there ain't gonna be a Crawford fight. That ain't happen. And that's a
joke at this point, after you see that mess, Uh, you know,
there's other fights and listen, I mean, let's we We do have
to be acknowledged that styles do make fights and that Sandra Martin and Ortiz their
tough, technical styles the way that they box, and they would probably give
a lot of guys trouble. Ortiz gave Lomachenko problems in their fight, so
that's not the first time that's ever happened. But tia Fimo, I think
they might have to do a better job of scouting the opponent in terms of
who are we going to fight. You want to fight a guy that you
know, you want an even kind of fight, but you want somebody that
can you know, it is entertainment. He wants to be the showman.
Let's have a fight, not a not a technical mess like that. Well,
we'll see what happens next. We'll see what happens next for him.
And again just as the backdrop, obviously the super Bowl is being played in
three days in that city and in fact in the stadium that's right by the
Mandalay Bay. So you had everything in place for this to be a big
stage for him relative and a just an absolute non event. And by the
way, exact with the fans booing lustily from the fourth round on over and
over and over again at the lack of action. So I don't know where
he goes from here to get the stink off of him. But he's got
to fight somebody later this year and get the stink off of him. I
don't know what that is. You talk about that like there's all these hundreds
of thousands of people that come to town to Las Vegas to participate. Not
necessari they're all going to be at the football game. Obviously it only holds
a certain amount of peace, well at the stadium, but there's lots of
people that are there you know, to h to partake in the festivities of
the entire Super Bowl week, and the reality is they barely drew six thousand
people to the fight, and Mandelaida holds about you know, eleven inch eleven
five the jam it in, so you know, not not a great crowd
and an even worse fight. And actually the most amusing part of the whole
night actually was at the end when you if you go and take a look
on the social media of Terrence Crawford, you know he was taking his good
shots asz. You know, because if you noticed after the fight a result
was announced before Bernardo Osuna did the interview or or whatever. I mean,
Bernardo did his job at TIFIMO was a ruin in that thing. I don't
know what he was talking about, but tid Terrence Crawford, I mean,
rather Tifa me Lopez burst into tears when they announced the scores after he got
to win, and because I think he genuinely thought I could I could be
the loser here. I think that was relief. Did you perceive it that
way? My perception, watching from a distance was that's relief. He he
might have lost it again. Well, I'll just say what Terrence Crawford posted
on his Twitter slash x he got a gift and he know it. That's
why he's crying. Yeah, I would agree with that analysis. I mean
right, And Terrence Crawford said he talked all that shit about me and lost.
Like I told, the focus on how you got fight who you're fighting,
not me. Back to the drawing board. You go chump m all
right. So again we've given that the due attention. And again this is
a preview podcast. We will on the bet Us Show have a preview of
the Frank Warren Queensberry card that Hamza Shiraz is the headlining fighter in. We'll
do that at one Eastern time on Friday. One other fight of note,
obviously is Keyshawn Davis in the co feature. He does score a TKO over
veteran Jose Padraza, former world champion. This was really a one sided fight.
What was your perception because I thought sitting and watching it, Padraza looked
like he did not have much. He had come down and wait, he's
older and Davis just gradually overwhelmed him and eventually stopped him. That's my thoughts.
What were your thoughts of that co feature fight? That was a much
more entertaining fight, like tenfold than the Lotez main event. Go ahead.
I mean, I thought that Padrazza might test him a bit. I was
concerned ahead of the fight that he hadn't fought at lightweight since twenty nineteen and
that shedding the extra five pounds might be difficult for him. He said it
was, and he went to junior welterweight because he wanted to win a title
in the third weight class, and I kind of thought that might maybe there
was something to it, but maybe it was more bravado. It seems like
it was more bravado that I believe that the and padraz has been an honest
fighter, not a complainer, you know, good solid guy, been around
for a long time, has you know, put the work in and got
the most out of himself. But I do think any didn't complain about it
after the fight or anything that I'm aware of. But I do feel like
the extra losing the extra weight definitely had an impact on his legs. They
look shaky from the beginning. And you combine that with a motivated Kishan Davis
who spoke about how he's no longer smoking marijuana and it's now made him better.
You know, he put his hands or put his you know, his
career in God's hands, and you know he helped him overcome that his you
know, smoking marijuana regularly and he's healthier and it makes him better in camp,
better with his lungs. Blah blah blah. All good things from Kishan.
He said all the right stuff, but he executed it because it showed,
because the last two fights he won were you know, wins, and
you know, one that became a no contest because of the marijuana positive drug
test. But he didn't look very good. He didn't look like the guy
that I and many others picked as the twenty twenty two prospect of the year.
He didn't look like the guy that you thought, maybe in the future,
was going to be a pound for pound kind of stalwart, a guy
that would win world titles in multiple weight classes. And then you watch him
annihilate Adraza, who only had been stopped one previous time, and that was
against the very young Gravanta Davis. When Gervante Davis won the first world title
of his career at one hundred and thirty pounds, and guy thought Kishan stole
the show. I thought he looked spectacular. I thought he came in the
ring with a pep and his step, with an attitude, with a desire
to really to do what Ti Fimo couldn't do, which just put on a
sho He did a really good job, and I thought the stoppage was good.
He was beating him up. I mean, he was landing everything he
could could throw at him, you know, hooks and and the jab was
strong. He landed just just a lot of hard punches, combinations. I
mean, he really took a part a quality veteran fighter who I think pop.
Probably Padraza will still continue to fight and probably go back to one forty.
Don't know if he's going to be a world champion again, but at
one forty he probably can still compete with the best guys. But at lightweight,
you know, Keishon Davis is the you know, one of the future
stars of that weight class. There's no doubt if he keeps his head on
straight and he trains his rear end off and he comes into condition that he
came in in that fight and has that kind of game plan and listens to
his team. He's got Brian McIntyre in the corner with him, he's obviously,
you know, being mentored by people like Bud Crawford and Shakr Stevenson,
which are obviously very talented fighters in their own rights. So you know,
things are after a couple of you know, wins but didn't look so great,
he's back on the right path now. And look, he's only,
you know, still young fighter, barely has what ten fights or so,
but it's not too long before you can fight for a major title or fight
anybody in the weight class. Who's calling out to you Fima Lopez after the
fight, Yeah, that's interesting, and Lopez in his ranting basically said,
go get a title and then you can fight me. And obviously Keishaan Davis
is not a junior welterweight. He's a lightweight at the moment, so that's
a further complication. But maybe that's a fight for somewhere down the road.
All right, One final, is there anything else off the undercard there from
Thursday that stood out before we move on to news and nostalgia, My friend,
I'll just mention the one fighter who I most wanted to watch among the
preliminary fights, who I thought, look the best of the preliminary fights,
who deserves a mention. Who is a future I think a top fighter in
the you know, in the sport. I mean, he's one of the
best young fighters out there. But he's such a young fighter. And I'm
talking about Abdulla Mason. I mean he's a very very talented fighter, really
good place. He's now twelve to zero with ten knockouts. Got to win.
He's a lightweight, looked absolutely sensational and a secon round knockout against an
undefeated fighter named Benjamin German who was eight zero to three going in. Not
that he was, you know, some spectacular fighter. But I've watched Abdulla
Mason since day one. I attended his professional debut. I've seen every single
one of his professional fights. He is immensely talented. Funds comes from a
boxing family. He's brothers box. I mean the whole, the whole family's
involved. But the thing about him, he's so advanced. He's only nineteen
years old. It's amazing to think about where he can be just in a
few years. I mean, he is mature in the ring beyond his years.
Physically, he really knows what's going on in there. He's got power,
he's got speed, throws, from different angles, and I just thought,
you know, this was a really outstanding performance and he is definitely a
young fighter to keep an eye on. Top rank is so loaded with prospects.
You know, we're gonna see Shoe Shoe Carrington the featherweight next week on
their card. He's another one of their young guys. But this kid is
only nineteen. Carrington's already about twenty six. He just got a little bit
of a later start. But remember the name Abdulla Mason from Cleveland, Ohio.
All right, on to the news, and there is more news out
of Saudi Arabia. It seems like every time that we are on one of
these podcasts we're talking about Turkey, Alasic and the Saudia Entertainment Authority. All
right, so we did talk on the previous podcast about Better BV and B
Bowl and that June first is the date you've been reporting that date. There
is something interesting though, and you are always a stickler for this that apparently
Archer Better BEV has not signed the deal as of yet. Should we be
concerned? Are we still good? What do we know? It's February,
It's February. We got time. What do we think? Yeah, I
mean, there's no reason for concern at all. I just you made you
said in your just previous comment that I'm a stickler, and it drives me
a little crazy when anybody says a fight is done and it's not done.
Now it's going to get done. Yes, we're very confident in that.
I think everybody is. And the reason that I brought this up is because
when his excellency was on ari Al Hawani's MMA Hour and they were he was
with Tyson Fury and they had a guess Klemus and Alexander Usik coming from Spain
from his training camp, and they announced the rescheduled date for Fury against Usick.
He also, as a smaller part of that overall interview, talked about
some of the other activities that they have going on, and he made specific
mention that in fact, Better bv and Bevault for the undisputed light heavyweight title
would take place on June first, and that was a date that I reported
a couple of weeks ago that that was when it was going to happen again.
There was no issues. People had signed off on things, you know,
ages ago before he fought in December, and they were still working things
out with Top Rank and getting the Better BF side situated, and once again
he said June first, But I just want to reiterate, while there's no
issues, the main terms, all the important stuff is agreed to. The
fight is not paper yet, it is not signed yet. They're waiting to
go through that process. But I am told by the Better BF camp one
percent that is the intention. They're happy with the deal, but it's not
done yet. So sometimes people get and I understand the excitement that people would
have, but sometimes people get a little bit ahead of their skis at times
and it's not quite done out. The good news, by the way,
that when this fight does get completed again this is not one hundred percent,
but it's very very likely that this fight will not be a pay per view,
that this will be a regular at least in the United States of America
anyway, will be available on an ESPN Plus platform at no additional cost.
So Top Ranks Bob Aram, who you know obviously has been was promoting this
week the Lopez and a Jermaine Ortiz event, had done some interviews and mentioned
some people that it would not be on pay per view, which was good
to hear. I'm told that that is the likely situation. But again,
like the signing of the contract, not one hundred percent, but most likely,
and they're very happy about that because they want to do a pay per
view for this type of fight, you know in other countries. It'll probably
be worldwide on his own, I believe. Also as a non day point
out the obvious middle of the afternoon US time, I have two non American
fighters, not heavyweight champions, not Canelo Alvarez. Disaster. If you're trying
to score on pay per view, especially for an expensive price, come on,
be smart, be smart about that, and I think they are.
I think they are being smart about that. No, and I agree.
I mean, look, when they did put the Day of Reckoning card on
pay per view, we lauded them for doing it for a very affordable thirty
nine to ninety nine for a very stack card, legitimately stacked card. Obviously,
when this comes to theory, it was take the prices not has not
been announced yet or maybe it was. Was it a sixty nine ninety nine
whatever it was, But that's another thing. That's the middle of the day
American time. But it's the heavyweight champions distuted heavyweight championship. So in due
respect to these guys, it's undisputed, But if one of them was an
America because again Wilder was involved in the day of reckoning, so that you
know the American audience. If you're a hardcore fight fan, you're in on
this and you might be buying a pay per view. But if you're not
a hardcore fight fan, how much are you enticed for? Even if it
was thirty nine, ninety nine or thirty The bottom line I'm saying here is
that for a fight of that magnitude in this day and age where no offense,
but you know, Tim Zu against Keith Thurman as a sixty to sixty
five dollars or seventy dollars pay per view, granted with other fights on the
card that are worthwhile, but and I'm not don't get me wrong, I'm
not knocking PBC for doing that fight. I get it. You know it's
a nice show. I'm just making the point that if you were forced to
pick, would I rather have this undisputed light heavyweight title fight between two of
the best pound for pound and undefeated champions who are both tremendous fighters, and
you know, on the Hall of Fame trajectory for zero up charge or you
know, upwards of sixty to seventy dollars to do the four fight card they're
offering with the main event that is a you know, barely passing as a
main event in my opinion in terms of Thurman's inactivity. Nothing to do with
you. I love Zoo. If you had to make the choice, you
definitely would think any boxing I would take the one that doesn't cause extra for
a much higher lover fight. So that's all I'm saying. Again, I'm
not knocking them. I'm just saying when you have to compare them and you
see what things are being offered on pay per view non paper, he was
always a beautiful thing. So I'm very excited for that light heavyweight fight.
I'm sure that it will get papered and done wrapped up in the near future,
and it's going to be a big fight, all right. You mentioned
the name Tyson Fury back back in the news, obviously because the fight is
rescheduled by the way. He went on social media to say he's not retiring
anytime soon, that he expects to fight multiple more times, including the Usik
rematch, maybe fight Anthony Joshua maybe a Naganu rematch. I mean, this
is there's massive money in this, and he is he has agreed to a
rematch clause with Usik. Now some have pointed out You'll be one to point
it out right here. He had a rematch clause with Vladimir Klitchkow that he
never honored, and he was trying not to honor the rematch clause with Deontay
Wilder and they had to go to court to figure all of that out.
So I understand all of that, but I'm not shocked that he's not retiring.
There's too much money and he's still in the prime of his career.
Yeah, And in terms of the not honoring the Deontay Wilder rematch clause,
they ended up going to the arbitration, not quite a legal thing, but
yeah, that was the problem. The Clitchko thing. He was on drugs
and alcohol and all messed up and really really caused Clitchko a lot of problems,
and unfortunately his career ended in an unsatisfying manner because he was so inactive
going to the Joshua fight, And that's partly because of Tyson Fury's fault.
Because Cklitchko was waiting for the rematch, but nonetheless, Yeah, But the
point about the thing I wanted to mention about this Instagram video that Fury made
about not retiring, and like he mentioned, he's like five more fights,
he's got the two fights w the was six. He said, I'm gonna
fight Joshua maybe twice, and then I got to get a rematch with my
man Naganu. But here's the thing. You know, how many times did
Tyson Fury over the last couple of years go on his social media make a
video talk about how he was retired and nobody believed him. And now he's
saying I'm not retired. I mean, I guess more people will believe that
he's not retired because he likes that money. You know, he's making somewhere
in the neighborhood of probably around seventy million dollars for this Zusik fight, and
they'll be tens of millions of more in those other matches that follow And even
if he lost till on Alexander Usik and he wanted to fight on, then
the Ganu fight's still going to be there. There would still be a lot
of people that want to see the Joshua fight. I mean, you know,
part of Tyson Fury's appeal is the fact that he's undefeated, but it's
not the only reason if he loses. You know, all the great heavyweights
of our time have lost. The only undefeated heavyweight of any merit was Rocky
Marciano. And so if the greats like Lennox and Tyson and Holyfield and George
Foreman and you know, go on down the line, you know, Clitchko
and you know, pick pick your guy, they've all taken losses. So
I don't think even if Tyson Fury suffers at defeat in one of these upcoming
fights, it doesn't ruin the prospect of these other fights. Maybe a dense
to purse a little bit, but he's still gonna make a lot of money
and still going to attract a lot of fans. So I was glad that
he said that because I like watching Tyson Fury fight. I just like hearing
him talk less, and let's get him in the ring a little more actively
than once every You know Hayley's comment. You said something and I wanted to
follow up on it. You said seventy million for the Usik fight. You
think when it's all said and done, seventy million or is he being guaranteed
in that neighborhood something like that? What is the I believe, my belief
in understanding is that for the for the fight in May, he's being guaranteed
seventy million dollars. That is amazing, that this amazing money to lay that
out there, we'll see and don't and don't think that this kind of number
being thrown around. I'm just going to cross over sports by the by the
Saudi's to put on different events when they are laying out two hundred and three
hundred million dollars dollars to professional golfers through the Live Golf Tour and that PIF
investment fund. That's golf, that's not even boxing. So I can understand
on a certain prize fight. It just shocks me that it would be that
high, that the guarantee wouldn't be something like thirty forty million, and then
the pay per view is obviously going to cash in. But lord, I
mean, here's the thing. Also, so I was reading the what is
your belief of what do you know about us? A similar half that on
the guarantee because Fury is probably the bigger draw in speaker worldwide. What do
you think around thirty thirty five million for Fears. That's oh so that's still
a massive guarantee for him. One hundred million dollar fight is the bottom line.
Now if you want to look at the overall picture in terms of the
finances. So, uh, there's a publication online called Sportico. I don't
know if you've read it or heard it to do. They cover the business
of sports in general, media deals and this and that. So they just
a few days ago put out their list for twenty twenty three of the highest
paid athletes. Tyson Fury flocked in at number sixty four. Now he only
fought, remember he thought just a one time. We then gone two thousand
and that was the uh, the Noganu fight. They estimated that. So
he comes in sixty four worldwide on the list for one at you know,
one event. He they say he earned forty million dollars last year, and
that was thirty two million for the fight against Naganu. Another eight million in
terms of non you know, non on the field of play earnings in terms
of sponsorships or marketing or endorsements, that sort of thing. And that was
the you know he was, I guess he was the second highest boxer on
the on the list, the number one was Canelo Alvarez, who they estimated
made sixty six million dollars sixty million from his two fights and another six million
outside the field of play. And there was other boxes on the lest also
Ryan Garcia and Tank you know, and Tank Davis, I guess, and
some of the other guys. But point I'm making ari is Tyson Fury at
that number, he's going to be way higher than that with the seventy million
just on that one fight, because he got a figure. Fury if he
fights me in twenty twenty four, it's the seventy or so for the fight,
plus whatever he's due on the rematch, which is probably a similar kind
of number. Plus he'll still make whatever he's making outside the field to play,
so he could have he was making seventy times too. One hundred and
forty is still make the same around ten million and non boxing stuff. You're
talking about one hundred and fifty million dollars potentially in twenty twenty four. That
would it wouldn't make him number one, number one, as Ronaldo was making
two seventy five million and by the way, who's paying him that? Who's
paying them that? The sad audio for their salt for their soccer league.
So if Tyson Fury made in the one to fifty range for twenty twenty four
based on those persons for it USICK twice plus whatever is obviously much smaller amount
off the field of play. Based on the numbers that Sporticle reported for twenty
twenty three, it would make Tyson Fury the number three highest paid athlete in
the world, behind uh two soccer players or no, I don't even know
what's Christian Ronaldo was number one, uh MESSI was number number two, number
making who's making a boatload of money out of he's number three? He's coming
over to John who is John Rahm. John Rahm is the golfer for the
PGA Tour. But now Rom's deal. Rom's deal is a three hundred million
dollar deal to play on the liv Golf Tour. But it's not I don't
think it's all up front. I think it's staggered over several years. So
that's kind of interesting. But one more thing, just keep this in perspective
because the Super Bowl is coming this weekend. Patrick Mahome one of the highest
played players, if not the highest paid player in football's making forty million to
play an entire NFL season, not just one game, not just the Super
Bowl. Now, yes he has outside income. You can't turn the TV
on or the Internet on and not see a commercial. Well, I'll tell
you the number these easily. What do they have you at? What do
they have mahomes So, Patrick mahomes on this sporticle this for twenty twenty three
is number ten. It says he had fifty nine point three million in salary
slash winnings, twenty five million dollars in endorsements, putting him at a total
of a little over eighty four million dollars one to five million off the field.
That's uh me so, but rom so again, in terms of the
Tyson Fury potential, you got Ronaldo at two seventy five for twenty twenty three,
rom at two hundred and three, which is one eighty one from the
earnings and then another twenty two from endorsements. Messi obviously Lebron James number four,
and then you know again based on those numbers, Fury would slot in
ahead of Messi potentially. That's the point is whatever you think about boxing's place
in the world, call it a niche sport, so be it. These
lists always have two or three or four boxers in the absolute upper echelon of
earnings. Now again, I don't know if that doesn't help you or me,
but it shows that there's still a tremendous amount of money made in the
sport, and it shows that there's interest in the public buying pay per views,
and that's the reason why promoters and people that are backing these things are
willing to put that money out. That's I mean a plus. He's very
slightly different in terms of their reasonings. But yes, you're correct. Yeah,
whatever the market will bear right, my friend, welcome to supply and
demand. Go get the money if you can get the money, Okay.
Moving along on the news, John Ryder announced his retirement. We know him
from having recently fought Heimimongia. He obviously battled Canelo Avaez. We know him
previously having fought for a world title with Canelo. I'm sorry, Callum Smith.
We know him mostly from the Canelo fight a year ago in Mexico.
Again, this is a guy that you had on the podcast recently. He
took up pretty good licking against Timi Mungia. So I can't say this is
totally shocking that he says, hey, I've I've made some good money,
so I'm really here we go back to the money again, and maybe I
don't want to get my brand's brain scrambled anymore for a living and want to
do something else. I've always thought John Ryder was the kind of guy and
there's others in boxing that have that would fall into this kind of category.
Is a guy that didn't have the A level talent, probably the B B
minus kind of talent, maybe even C plus talent. But what he had
was a great work ethic, a hardhead, a lot of will, a
lot of balls, a lot of heart, a lot of desire and uh
just just did it the right way and didn't duck guys. You know,
thought tough fights because he fought in a certain kind of style that even when
he lost, that didn't end the career. He was always willing to put
up a good fight. And you know, he was liked by pretty much
everybody. The media liked them, the fans liked him, the promoters liked
him. You know, he didn't drive a crazy hard bargain. You know
he got paid well, I'm sure, but he didn't make it impossible to
do a deal with him. Just a very likable guy. I met John
several times over my career, covered some of the you know, covered lie
of his career in terms of writing about him, have interviewed him and stuff.
Just a just a nice guy, like the kind of guy you would
for. Again, he's not he didn't have that elite talent. But I've
always said about boxers, and I would say the same if I was covering
basketball or football or baseball or whatever. I would rather have the guy with
the B talent but the A work ethic than the guy with the A talent
and the B work ethic, because the guy that's going to try to get
the most out of him is going to do it every single day. And
John Rayder was that kind of guy. Got everything out of what he could
get. You know. Now, he never got to be a world champion.
He did know, fight for the title and loss, but he did,
you know, for what it's worth, he got a parent interim titles.
Say what you want about that, but he never didn't give an effort.
I mean, he's and he's got a couple of nice wins. He
did beat Zach Parker, he did have a close call and got the close
decision against Daniel Jacobs. Those are solid victories for him. And he put
up, like you said, a great effort against Mangia despite the loss,
put up a very brave performance against getting up, kept getting pummeled and got
up a couple of different times. Yep. So so he announced your retirement,
I say, good for him. Let him get his bouquets, let
him get the flowers. He finishes his career. He's thirty five years old.
He's got a lot him hopefully, thirty two wins, seven losses,
eighteen knockouts. Got ripped off against Calvin Smith in a world title fight.
That was the other time he fought for one of the belts. That was
a WBA title fight in twenty nineteen. Obviously, the other championship opportunity was
getting dropped and knocked that knocked around and bust busted nose against Canelo and the
you know, in that challenge that took place last year. But you know,
one of the good guys, and you know, he said in his
statement he thanked everybody like they do and and wouldn't change a thing and all
that, and now he plans to work with his longtime trainer Tony Simms,
who obviously did a great job with him, is to work with Tony as
an assistant in the gym and you know, try to hone his skills and
reach the top level as a boxing trainer. And maybe he gets in I
don't know this, Maybe he gets into broadcasting in the media, you know,
studio show, getting interviewed. I don't know. Maybe that's something else
he wants to do. Who knows, But there we go on on his
announcement, all right, moving on on the news. The IBF one hundred
and forty pound champs Suprial Mattias, who we've seen, you know, scarcely
he has a title. He is now apparently a promotional free agent. So
tell me, tell me more about what's going on here in what his next
fight might be. Dan Rayfield, well, he's been with PBC, but
he's always had a promoter at a Puerto Rican called Fresh Promotions. But apparently
he's parting ways with PBC. And I don't know what the reasons for that
are. I don't think it's necessary acrimony. It's just that you know,
he wasn't necessary contractually down to them. They've obviously had a hard time delivering
fights because of their lack of schedule, at least in the first quarter of
twenty twenty four. They weren't so super active over the last few months either,
and unfortunately for Mattias, who, for my money, is one of
the most exciting fighters at PBC has period, no matter what weight class you're
looking at. And this is a guy who's got twenty wins all by knockout
and has won just a one loss. You know, a very exciting,
tremendous fighter to watch in terms of the entertainment value. He's guy world title
he's made, you know, one defense so far, the title fight where
he won the belt, super exciting against Jerrymias punts. But you know,
he did have two fights last year, but it didn't feel like two fights
because he just they were spread out by ten months and you just you just
don't really hear a lot about him. And so anyway, they apparently have
parted ways and again there's no deal here yet, but he's been in definitely
talking to This was a story that was actually in the one of the El
New Wave Ada, one of the Puerto rican the top newspapers, but it
has been confirmed to me by people involved that he is definitely having conversations with
Mattroom Boxing about trying to do something well. Whether they would require him to
do some kind of co promotion with Fresh Emotions would seem to be a likely
possibility because you know, they're usually not going to just give up a title
shot or give up a card for a guy they don't have a future with.
But if it gets done, he would fight in a title defense in
Puerto Rico, where he's from, which I know is something mattisas said he
wanted to do sometime in the early summer against the undefeated Australian contender Liam Paro,
who is twenty and oho. And you know what in the junior welterweight
division, where there's a lot of names, a lot of talent, Yeah,
it's very top heavy when you're talking about Tia Fimo and and Ryan Garcia,
and you know, if Tank Davis comes up and weigh Devin Haney's certainly
there with a title, regis Progray who's just lost, but it's still in
the weight class. There's a lot of good quality fighters there. But Mattias
is talent wise and exciting wise. Is probably on that kind of level,
even if he doesn't get a lot of attention. And while Paro is not
going to make you forget about you know, the all time greats of one
hundred and forty pounds, you know, he's got some nice wins and he's
interesting, and that's a that's a good matchup, and that's a fight that
Natrim can deliver because they are his promoters. So if you're able to do
Mattias against him in against Parroo in Puerto Rico, that's a nice fight.
I'd definitely be into that. So it's not done yet, but hopefully they'll
get it wrapped up and we'll hopefully get a chance to see him back.
And the main thing is if Mittias is back, you know, let's say,
you know in June ish, there should be no reason why he shouldn't
be able to get in two fights in a perfect world to be three fights
this year, but you know, I'm not going to hold my breath on
that, all right. Speaking of top rank and Spain, we did talk
about a Manuel Navarate and him moving up for the vacant WBO lightweight title.
What date are they looking at right now, What are you hearing? What
are you reporting? Well, it was not that long ago, in the
last couple of weeks, I guess probably even less than that that the you
know, the WBO ordered him. You know, he he was their champion
in the junior lightweight division. He is vacating that title and moving up to
the lightweight division where he is now eligible to fight for their title. That's
part of the WBO rules. But they ordered him because he wanted that position
and the title was vacant because Haini when he vacated all the titles as the
undisputed champion and moved up, that was a vacant title. So anyway,
Navarette was in position. They ordered this fight not that long ago, for
Navarette to fight Dennis Barncik or the vacant title, and you know, it
could have gone to a purse BD but apparently that won't happen. That they've
been able to work out a deal between Top Rank and K two Promotions,
which handles Barentchik to do this fight, and they're talking about again. It's
not done yet, but they're working on it and I think it'll probably get
done. I don't see a reason why it wouldn't is to go on May
eighteenth at the Pachanga Arena in San Diego, which is a place where a
naverette has fought before and obviously has a large Mexican Mexican American community. That
would be the target of the ticket, you know, selling tickets, and
there's a good possibility that that'll be May eighteenth on ESPN or you know,
one of the ESPN platforms, And that's you know, again a pretty solid
fight, you know, in a way class that's excellent. I know Branchik
is not the most known guy, but he's a silver medal winner in the
Olympic Games, and he's obviously got a great amateur background. And we all
know about Navarette, so bring it up. And Navaratatee has been involved in
some wild fights. Again, the draw with Consasao was recent, but that
was a great fight. What was it, Liam Wilson, Do I have
that right the Australian Off the top of my head. That was one of
your fights and my fights too. That should have been in the consideration for
Fight of the Year last year. Anytime that guy's in the ring, I'm
interested. So even if we have to wait a little while longer on that.
All right, some nostalgia and then we are good here. It was
twenty seven years ago February eighth, nineteen ninety seven, as we released this
podcast Thursday night and a Friday, twenty seven years ago Thursday, that Prince
Nasim Hahmed knocked out Tom Boom Boom Johnson and unified the WBO and IBF featherweight
titles. Whenever we can work the Prince in here, Hahmed, we love
talking about him. So little nostalgia again on the on the Prince. I'm
an on a bashed Prince fan. Everybody knows that. But this was this
was a big fight for the Prince because he had been on. He had
been selling out and doing big numbers in the UK where he was extremely popular.
He had won the WBO featherweight title. But again you have to remember
the times we're talking about, late nineties. It was it was a world
title, yes, but it was not considered like the title, a big
title. But it was guys like Hahmed that actually gave it some legitimacy.
And so guys like Joe Kylzagi also you know from the UK, from Wales
and some of the British fighters, that gave even that credibility. So but
again, like I said, he had he had won that belt, he
had defended US several times. He'd been getting some experience, I mean,
rather some exposure on the United States broadcast because he had fought on you know,
some he had been shown on Showtime and uh later on he ended up
on ABC. But when he fought Boom Boom of Johnson, who was a
very reputable fighter out of Detroit, good fighter, you know, maybe not
a Hall of Famer, but you know, but but at that period of
time, in that era in the nineties, he was he was a badass.
He was a really good, exciting, tough, you know, just
talented guy, and he was the IBF champion and so they made the match.
He went to the UK to fight him, and it was a big
deal on Showtime. This is in February of nineteen ninety seven, and it
was a unification. But in the Prince, you know, as he typically
did, put him away in the in the eighth round, got the knockout
and unified the titles, and then he continued to pile up the wins and
it was you know, probably what four fights later where he you know less.
It was Actually this is, by the way, we always talk about
activity, by the way, and I'm looking I just looked his record up.
I was just going there. You start to think like me, and
you scared it, right, I was just going there on the activity.
But in nineteen ninety seven he fought the Boom Boom fight in February. That's
what he fought one, two, three, four times in nineteen ninety seven,
culminating with the HBO debut, the legendary epic fight that we have talked
about. That's one of my all time favorite fights. When he knocked out
Kevin Kelly now had not he didn't he no longer had the IBF title.
I forget he was stripped away from him or he gave it up or whatever.
He only made a couple of defenses that But the Tom Johnson fight gave
Hamed a lot more legitimacy in the eyes of the more traditional folks, let's
say, because it was the IBF title, but not just the WBO title,
and that was a really good win for the Prince. And later on
in the air we saw him, you know, defend it and then you
get stripped or for vacant, I forget which it was, and then come
to the United States for the Kevin Kelly fight. And remember this is the
infancy of the internet the mid nineties, and you did not see a lot
of fights live in England and less for whatever reason, they had been on
network TV in the United States on ABE CBS during the day they would show
fights from over in Europe, so showtime exposing him in that way. But
I just look, he fought four times in ninety six and four times in
ninety seven. Do you hear me, people that you had to actually have
activity to market yourself, to make more money, to be to be a
bigger name. He stay in shape eight, yes, eight times in those
two years to eventually launch himself with that Kevin Kelly fight into much bigger fights,
all title fights. Yeah. By the way, I don't want to
undersell Tom Johnson, Tom Boom Boom Johnson again. I said he's not a
Hall of Famer necessarily, but the guy was defending his title against Hamid for
like the twelfth time when they fought each other. Ammed had, you know,
had a handful of defenses of the w BO, but necessarily not in
your twelve defenses and you know, Boom Boom was a you know, you
don't hear about him today like every day or anything, but a very very
well respected fighter at that time and U and that was a very very big,
great win for Hmed at that time. And that was the anniversary where
the prince we always love whenever we can bring him up, all right.
And then thirty three years ago, as we released the podcast Friday February ninth,
nineteen ninety one, is the end of Sugar Ray Leonard. Terry Norris's
decision over Ray Leonard sends him into another well sends him into retirement at that
time before we would see him again the fight that he should have never come
out for with it, which is the Hector Camacho fight, but he went
away. Now you talk about retirements, as you were talking about with Tyson
Fury earlier, what number retirement was this when the Norris retirement happened after this
decision, Because you and I are humongous Sugar Ray Leonard fans, but this
had to be the third or fourth right retirement around, I mean something.
Obviously he had the retirement in the early eighties with the eye right, the
other one after the I forget was it after the Kevin Howard fight. Maybe
afgot Yes, he retired on a regular basis. He came out of retirement
for this fight against Terry Norris, who was an up and coming fighter at
that time. It would you know, he was the champion of the WBC
at one hundred and fifty four pounds. His big win up to that point
was against John mcgabby, who was a little older at that point. And
you know, and let me tell you about that. That was the Sundome
in Tampa, that was ABC Network TV, and that was a first round
knockout. He blitzed him in one round. And so Leonard, this is
Leonard coming off the draw with Thomas Hearns. This is Leonard having beaten Roberto
Duran in the third fight and then around this time, so that kind of
set the stage for him to take on the younger gun here in this instance.
Yeah, I mean, he had the draw, like you mentioned,
against Hearns, and a lot of most people thought that he lost. He
had the win, although an abysmal fight against Duran that was at the very
end of eighty nine. He did not fight at all, Sugar. Right
in nineteen ninety, most people figured he was done and he was going to
retire and just continue to do as HBO commentary. And then lo and behold,
February of ninety one, he's when he fought the Terry Norris by So
he'd gone what fourteen months or so without a fight. But the thing about
it was, you know, Terry Norris was a badass, coming up,
big puncher. You know he had lost before. But still it was a
bad fight for Ray to take. And as it turns out, as great
as Ray Leonard was and all the greats have fought in Madison Square Guard,
it turns out that that's the only time that Sugar Ray Leonard ever boxed in
that hallowed venue. Now that's a trivia nugget, that's the only one.
How about that. I don't know if I remember correctly. He hurt himself.
He hurt himself in this fight. He heard his calf I think in
this fight that okay, yeah, because because it was definitely an aging Ray
Leonard at that point, not the same anymore. And I don't know.
And then did him give the interview that that he really his body began to
betray him and he didn't listen to his body, and the and the Norris
fight was the beginning of that. That one in the Norris was a big
puncher. He dropped Sugar Ray Leonard twice. Now, if you go back
about ten or twelve years ago, when the cable channel Epics did boxing matches,
I was the analyst on those boxing matches, and I worked with several
people over the two years or so. It was myself and Bruce Beck where
the constants. But we we were work with a bunch of different uh you
know X you know, the the expert analysts, like the former fighters and
trainers and sort of things like that. So of the people I worked with,
I worked with Lennox Lewis, I worked with Freddie Roach, but I
also worked several fights with Sugar Ray Leonard, so I got to know him,
hang out with him, and just you know, i'd met him before
and interviewed him just in my role as a reporter, but I never had
worked with him. So one day I remember we're sitting, uh you know,
in our in our backstage room before we're getting ready to go on the
air, and I forget how the topic giving came up. We're just shooting
the ship and for some reason, the Terry Norris fight came up. I
might have told this story before. Remember he was working at HBO as a
commentator, and you know that was a really cushy gig. He had obviously
fought fights on HBO, liked the Duran, which you know they replayed in
the Tommy Hearns rematch in Lalan and you go all the way back years all
is you know most of those big fights ron HBO or you know on a
close circuit that were replayed on HBO. Terry Norris fight was the one time
that Sugar Ray Leonard ever appeared on showtime. And as the story, the
way that Ray had said the story to me is that you know he number
one, he regrets to fight. You know, he says, I shouldn't
have taken the no I shouldn't have taken the Camacho fight, but I did.
If you take away those two loss By the way, Surrey, Sugar
Ray Leonard only has one loss in his entire career officially, and that was
in the first fight all the way back in nineteen eighty when he fought the
first matchup with Roberto Durant. But the Terry Norris fight really cost him his
gig at HBO. Because he wanted the HBO people to buy that fight and
they weren't going to do it. And I guess to make you know,
my members slightly foggy, but basically, they made a deal behind HBO's back
to fight on showtime. And when the people at HBO found out about that,
they went absolutely bonkers and they fired Ray from his position as the commentator.
So not only does Ray lose you know, probably a seven figure gig
as a commentator, which is, you know, to be the analyst on
HBO. In terms of that role was like the cushiest gig in the sport.
So he loses that role and then he gets his ass kicked by Terry
Norris and goes into retirement for six more years before he makes the terrible decision
to come out and fight the last match against Hector Camacho. So that Terry
Norris fight. Really, you know, it was one loss in the ring,
but it was another big loss outside there, and because it costs him
the gig, all right, I was looking at a couple of things here
and yeah, and Sugar, Ray was phenomenal even much earlier in his career
as an analyst for HBO and CBS. While in the prime of his career
being a fight analyst. All right, so Leonard said that night, I'm
looking at and rest in peace Sports Illustrated. I mean, it's going the
way of the dinosaur of the Dodo. But I'm looking at the SI recap
article where they had the quotes. He said, I knew I did not
have it when I entered the ring. And then Norris knocked Leonard down in
the second round. He said, I didn't have legs. I didn't have
legs anymore after the second round knockdown. Now he survived through the twelve rounds.
Sports Illustrated documents that it's Leonard's fourth retirement. In the recap when he
says I'm done, I'm not fighting anymore, he says, all the things
I tried worked against the older fellows later lately, but they didn't work tonight.
They said four retirements, the first in seventy six, after he won
the gold medal in Montreal where he announced he would not turn professional, that
he was retired from boxing. So does that really count as a retirement,
Ray Phiel, I don't know, I don't think. But Thenny, but
then he fought as a professional, uh and uh, and then after losing
to Roberto Duran, he won the he won the belt back and then uh
and then later announced the retirement. Uh right, the eye injury. Uh.
He returned for the single bout to defeat Kevin Howard. Howard knocked him
down in the fight. He retired again and said I'm done for good after
that fight. So Sports Illustrated documented that the Norris retirement would be the fourth
if you count the one after the amateurs and then of course the last one
after the come out week, but the official retirement. Most of the time,
when we talk about Sugar Ray Leonard on this show or any show,
you're talking about a glorious victors, talking about all the great fighters that he
beat, all the championships, he won the gold medal, just you know,
the biggest star of his time out of the heavyweight division for sure,
one of the biggest stars in the history of boxing. You know, if
you want to know the truth, this was like a sad scene to see,
like, but it just goes to show you father is undefeated, right,
And I mean, look, Terry Norris became a Hall of Famer.
Terry Norris was a very exciting fighter to watch, and you know, he
got. You know, it was sort of like he'll get you where you'll
get him, because he got knocked out several times. But if you want
to know the truth, nothing whatsoever against Terry Norris. You know, just
a very good, outstanding, you know, superb fighter for a long time,
the Ray Leonard of his day, the Ray Leonard that won the WBA
Junior middleweight title against Ayub Kloule. For example, when he went up a
few months before fighting Tommy Hearns in their massive first summit meeting. You know
he you know, like three months before he takes a so called tune up
fight against this undefeated a rug and African guy with the WBA world title as
a tune up, and he stops him in the ninth round. That Ray
Leonard at one hundred and fifty four pounds no offense to Terry Norris, would
have put Terry Norris in the hospital in my opinion, over and out ski
to watch him take a beating from Norris and get dropped twice in the waiting
days of his career. The guy that I idolized as kid and me both
I meant me both now interesting he was thirty four. He was thirty four
when he stepped in. That's not you, and I want to confess that's
not old. Thirty four is not old, even in boxing terms anymore.
It's not old. But he was thirty four when he fought Terry Norris.
Yeah, and then yet he would still come back, uh six years later.
I'm looking to see if there's anything in there on how much Ray made
for the fight just out of curiosity. For his final fight, I would
have to guess he was always fighting for a few million dollars. I would
have to guess like mid probably mid seven figures something like that for that fight,
depending on what. But it wasn't like he was making the crazy huge
money he made when he fought like Agler or when he fought But even the
crazy, but even the crazy huge money for those was not like you were
describing earlier, not like fifty sixty seventy million, even adjusted for inflation.
Thirty or forty years later, the crazy money was like ten or fifteen million
dollars that they were. There was no Saudi Arabia involved in those, that's
true, but uh, yeah, it's still you and I Ray, Charles
Leonard, Sugar Ray Leonard. But that night he didn't have it, didn't
have it against Terry Norris, so he would only fight one more time.
Norris was twenty three years old, eleven year age difference. I always wish.
I know that you can't go back in time, but it was always
my I would have loved if Ray had just stopped after durand closed the eighties
with the victory over Durant, as terrible as that third fight was, and
you walked away, it would have been a perfect bookend of the eighties.
You retire with just a one loss to an all time great in Duran which
you avenged, you know, and the No Mos fight regained the title,
and then you went and you ran the table. We talked about this all
the time. Most of these guys can't stay away. They can't stay away,
can't walk away. And Leonard had even told Sports Illustrated. I'm still
looking at their recap article. Leading up to the fight, I knew I
had to do this. I had to fight again. I had to know
if I could take my talent as far as it could go, and I
want to test it against a guy like this. What did he have left
to prove? But that's spider Man Tabity. There is the point I'll tell
you. In the long run, Yeah, he suffered the loss to Terry
Norris and the which is why we're talking about because the anniversary, and then
he suffered the stoppage against Camacho. But the thing is they actually in the
long in the large picture. Yes, we're kind of dissecting it right now
because it's the anniversary of the loss, but there's nobody in the world that
ever holds it against Ray Leonard that, oh, ye got knocked out by
Hector Camacho and your last fighter. You lost the decision and got dropped a
couple of times by an up and coming Terry Norris, who, by the
way, if you really want to get technical, Ray Leonard's got three losses
all the guys who were in the Hall of Fame Camacho, Norris and and
Roberto Durant. So it didn't hurt his overall, uh you know, the
the legendary status of his name. But still I wish it. I would
have wished it didn't happen. And and and for what it's worth, on
that afternoon when I was sitting in our green room before our broadcast, hanging
out with my man Ray Leonard, you know, he was basically saying the
same thing. I wish I hadn't done those two fights. You know,
you actually cheered me up with the nostalgia here at the end of this podcast,
even if part of it is Sugar Ray Leonard losing, but we did
have some good nostalgia to end it up, because once more, the Lopez
Ortiz fight, there's disappointments and then there was whatever that was. That's,
as you like to say, and I have often said to that's an hour
of my life. I'm not getting back with that. And we'll see what
happens with Tea Fimo and where he goes from here or not off of that
performance. Hey, we do have the Super Bowl in Las Vegas and hopefully
it's a better football game than what that fight is with the Chiefs and the
forty nine ers. Why don't we do this. We do have a handicapping
show bet us. We're going to talk about the Hamza Shiraz main event middleweight
Commonwealth Middleweight title fight in Britain. Also former light heavyweight world title challenger Anthony
Yard is on the undercart of that. We'll handicap both of those fights one
Eastern time. We'll also touch I'm sure for that audience a little bit on
the Lopez non event and non win Thursday. But why don't we reconvene a
little later on on Friday, one Eastern time. Good enough sounds good to
me. All right, let's do that for Dan Rayphiel, I'm merely TJ
Reeves. We will also come off the weekend with a recap podcast of something
stand by for that. We're here twice every weekend previewing and recapping. There
you go with the very latest with the Lopez decision win questionable, as Dan
believes that it was some news you have. I thought neither guy deserved to
win. I thought a draw. I thought one four team was fine.
One more time, neither guy deserved to have their hand raised after that fight.
And one more time, Lopez thoughty loss. That's why he was prime.
That tells you all you need to know in that one. All right,
there we go. We're all good here for this edition of the pod.
We'll catch you on the bet Us Show one Eastern time on Friday.
We have been with you here as part of the Big Fight. We can
preview and at a female Lopez recap as well. Thank you for being with us.