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Following is a presentation of play Fly
Sports Properties Beautiful entry. I love that

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intro. It never gets old to
me. Welcome to This is Sparta,

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December one, two thousand and twenty
two. I'm your host, Jason Strayhorn,

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along with my co hosts Otis Wiley
and Jayu to too, Cole chriek.

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How you guys doing today? It's
cold out here, mans cold on

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cold earlier and the same we're feeling
cold like y'all got it off there.

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I'm like, boy, you stop
that sixty one where he is and we

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love here. The feelings mutual.
There's nothing but love over here. You

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got that Buffalo bills in the background. It's not as bad as buffalo.

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Don't spare me the drama. We
had a very special show for you today

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and we have a lot of time. We're gonna talk about transferred ports,

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were gonna talk about recruiting. We're
going to get into the All Conference awards

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that were some that weren't. But
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wait to get you those tickets that
you needs. Yes, sir, the

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writing checks speak speaking of Chu Chu, his favorite topic. It all happened

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for every friends today and in the
transfer portal, we found out there's has

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been a Spartan player who has now
entered the portal. First one in,

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first first one, first one in. People try to say I ran him

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out of town. I didn't run
this boy out of town. I think

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you had something kind of like there
was more than that beasty phield go that

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uh that he kicked h at Penn
State. But you know, obviously you

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wish that made nothing but success in
his next endeavors. But this is kind

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of the first one that we've seen
happen. Usually you see this happening,

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you know, during the season,
which is actually kudos to kind of our

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program and kind of the sign of
our culture that you know, none of

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these guys kind of throw in the
town to Otis's point there though, the

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reason that things have been altered a
bit is because the rules have changed.

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Players now have a designated date that
they can truly identify or acclaim or whatever

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you want to call it, declare
for the portal. Declare December. They

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can declare December fifth for the portal. So what you're seeing now, there's

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a lot of activity going on.
There's quarterbacks all over the country jumping into

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portal. This is something that they're
telling you hate. I am going into

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the portal on December fifth. So
it isn't something that they haven't done.

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Like they didn't do because like last
year, people going into portal all the

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time. It's a new NCAA rule
that states that you cannot go in until

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December fifth. So it's going to
be mayhem in about four days from right

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now. You're going to see a
lot of players dipping in, going in

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permanently. So I'm coming out to
other schools and uh, some guys just

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going in just just to get a
little bit of a you know, a

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little little tick up almost like pre
agency. Jake j Yeah, absolutely,

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and uh, you know, before
you know, like Otis was hinting at

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and I know, I know,
I give the this group, this position

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group, a lot of flak,
but you know, I do want to

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thank Jack Stone for his time here
at Michigan State. You know, I

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think he has a lot of potentially
that's a big leg on him. You

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know, he showed that in Penn
State. I think it was just a

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matter of building that confidence with him
throughout the season. We didn't get an

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opportunity to see that good luck in
his future endeavors. And I am not

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It's taken me so much not to
just have you know, Pete play the

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song hit the Road Jack and don't
you want him back no more? But

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I'm not gonna do it. Oh
man, you seem awful enthusiastic about seeing

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the kicker leaving to the transfer portal. I just find it. The first

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person that we have in the transfer
portal is a guy that possibly won back

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his job, you know, by
booting that big fifty two yard field goal,

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and now he's out of the you
know, out of the program now.

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So you know what we needed to
do. We need to figure out.

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We need to figure it out on
the special team side of it.

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There's no questions about it. As
much as we want to joke about it

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and he he over it. We
have to get a kicker because the special

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teams side of it cost us games
this year. We know that. So

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we have to figure it out either
bringing in someone new or you know,

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hitting that transfer portal and getting a
kicker that can come in and get the

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job done and you know, be
a sure thing, be a you know,

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not a topic. If you don't
talk about a kicker, that means

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they're doing their job. And so
that's what we need, you know,

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going forward in the program. Absolutely
gotta have it. And going on into

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the players who have been selected to
do some postseason hot Allstar games. Look

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at Jayden reading Bryce Banger going to
the Senior Bowl. Man, this is

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huge, Bryce Benger and Jay Reed
recent Senior Bowl. Yeah, Ricy SR

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Bowl is uh, that is kind
of the I would say, not TOAs

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mahal, but the ultimate end goal
for any player that plays at that this

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level is to get that that invite. And so you know the best part

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of that that whole week is that
those guys have put together a high profile

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career and highlights and and put a
track of you know, products that you

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know they already kind of have their
evaluation and then this is the opportunity for

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that whole week is to truly go
through the work with those NFL coaches and

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also compete with the top talent that
is ready to get into the NFL Draft

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in twenty three. So kudos to
them obviously, would like to have them

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stay healthy and wherever they do to
select to train. Jayu always says,

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goes train San Diego. You know, you got the Floridas of the world

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too, and we'll see where they
land. But you know they're gonna do

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a great job and showcase what they
they've already sewn Spartan nation and in the

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nation that what they can do and
competing on the on the on the grid

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iron. Yeah, speaking about that, Jay, you you need to talk

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about you know, the ability for
players to go to the Senior Bowl and

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work with two NFL coaching staffs.
You know, AFC gets to get one

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side, be it North or South, and NFC coaches get the other side,

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and they really get the first look
hands on with these players in college

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and see how they perform under pressure, see how they are in drill,

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see what kind of mental makeup they
have. Right, Yeah, you're you're

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right, And this is the first
opportunity for these coaches to to get what

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these guys work one on one with
them, Get these guys in a room,

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put them on the board so they
can learn how it is to be

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a pro starting out early, as
well as the terminology in the lingo in

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the NFL, because the play callings
it's different. You know, you have

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these opportunities where you're calling two three
plays in one, so you have to

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be attentive to those different things.
And these guys have a leg up on

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other guys because these two are going
to definitely be invited to the Combine.

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So these guys are gonna have the
opportunity to when they're in they're working with

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these coaches to learn what it's like
to be on the board in front of

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gms and scouts at the Combine.
So it's a great opportunity for them to

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get to get out there and showcase
their you know, their talents out there.

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A lot of the times it's helpful. Sometimes it's not so much helpful

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for for a guy to play in
an All Star game. But you know,

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these two guys, I don't think
they're gonna have any issue, you

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know, playing in the recent Senior
Bowl. And you know, like Otis

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said, that's the top of the
line Senior Bowl that you can play in.

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Congratulations to them, well deserved and
well earned. Ben Van Sumerin gets

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to go to the East West Shrine
Bowl. Invitation accepted by Ben, who

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had a phenomenal years first year starting
for the Spiders. Yeah. This this

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guy is a ultimate team player.
And this guy is a dude. Man.

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I remember seeing during during fall camp
or summer camp him running down on

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kick off his This was a specialist
period and they were going through kickoff and

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you know, any player that has
played special teams, you know those drills

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are repetitive. And this guy was
beaten the skilled players down there, first

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to the to the wedge and also
to to the punt or the kickoff returner

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time and time again as he lined
up. And so, uh, this

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guy is gonna, truly, uh, in my opinion, be a guy

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that's gonna be an All American,
all Pro specialists. Uh if once he

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gets that shot. But you know
the best thing about this this this game

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is that if you ball out this
game, you know you may get a

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call to go to that top game
in the Senior Bowl. You know,

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people forget about that that. You
know, once, once these these things

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are happening, you still have the
same kind of pro scouts and you know,

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NFL coaches that are tapping into this
game and coaching them. And then

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he may get a call to say, hey, we need to go see

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you play against the top of the
line talon. But this guy is a

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guy, man, and so he
did. He did what he could for

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us in the Green and White,
and kudos again to him because he's going

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to be a stud in the next
level. Yeah, you're you're one hundred

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percent right. This guy is gonna
be playing on Sundays. He's he's a

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he's an athlete. Uh, sideline
is sideline. He's very good. Uh,

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he has he has it up here
in the head mentally, the smarts

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for the game. He understands the
game and that the game can slow down

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for him so he can play free
and loose. And also he's he's a

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specimen. He's built really well.
He's built like a linebacker. Uh.

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He's he's gonna be a guy that
definitely contributes to the special teams, you

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know, at the next level,
and that's what's gonna get him, you

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know, continuing years in the in
the NFL, is you know his play

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on special teams and then he's gonna
get some opportunities to get in there and

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play. But uh, you know, he's a guy that definitely gonna be

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missed by Spartan Nation and by his
teammates on the field. To true,

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I thought he's gonna I thought he's
gonna say he was a specimen with muscle

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on top of must so on top
of muscle, like you said, one

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of those guys man, Yeah,
not not muscle on top of the muscle,

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right, okay, duly noted man. Soomer definitely a very very good

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athlete and his skill set transition,
I mean perfectly for the NFL game.

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In my opinion, he's gonna have
a long career and hey, his brother,

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he's gonna sit back and learn from
are big bro and looking for him

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to have a lot of success on
that defensive line. Going on to other

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declarations to the NFL, one Daniel
Barker also has now declared for the NFL

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Draft. Yeah, I talked about
this. I guess with us three is

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that you know, you do wish
that he had more opportunities to showcase what

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you know, he has the capabilities
of being as a tight end, you

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know, being at the University Illinois. Uh, like you said, he's

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the leading tight end in history for
Alon night football, and you know,

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probably it's tough for him to come
over here and learn a whole new playbook

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and so, you know, maybe
that was his achilles heel of you know,

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taking it taking a little bit longer
time to really understand the full playbook

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playbook. But this guy's an athlete
and he causes problems out there on the

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in the secondary where we talk about
tight ends having mismatch problems when you're going

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one on one on the slot,
but also coming down and blocking. And

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so we'll see how he matches up
and where he lands, and hopefully he

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does get an invite to one of
the All Star Games to showcase what he

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can do. But you know,
kudos to him of you know, deciding

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to make the business move and and
see what he can do at the next

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level. It's you know, I'm
assuming he's gonna be doing some crazy training

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to get ready for it. But
yeah, kudos to Darry Barker. Appreciate

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what he did for us and Greenaway
at the short time that he that he

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was here, but kudos going on
to the All Big Ten Honors category.

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Jau's favorite and Otis's favorite, Cal
Halladay second team defense. When you look

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at the All Big Ten selection for
Cal Halladay, I mean I think he

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led the Big Ten in tackles,
but second team for Cal Halliday. So

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the thing with Halladay is if you
if you lined him up with a bunch

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of linebackers in the Big Ten to
be one hundred percent, you're not going

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to be like, this guy is
gonna be the one that leads the team,

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that leads the conference in tackles.
You're not. Because he's you know,

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he's quirky, you know he you
know, but he's a he's a

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dog, he's a player. He
he will go out there, he can

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diagnose, uh, you know,
the place out there. And you know

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they had a good scheme that could
that everything flowed to him. But my

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gripe about this is how can you
lead the conference in tackles and only be

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second team you know, all conference. That's something's going on. Either we're

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as a program are not you know, politicking and reaching out and advertising and

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showcasing for our guys, or the
Big Ten just gets it. Totally wrong.

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You know, there's no way that
you're leading the conference in tackles at

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that especially at that position, and
your second team. I mean we all

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know, I mean, we talk
about this, We know that success as

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a team, which is it sucks
that that's part of the the voting and

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you know, the coaches and the
media. But if we were to be

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like bo eligible or if you were
closer to you know, an eight and

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you know four or five squad,
you know clearly they've probably been a different,

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different difference maker. But this guy
eat seze ball, eats ball right.

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And it's one of those things where
we call, you know, Kyle

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Holliday, no gloves wearing, get
get strap up the boots, you know,

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farmer mentality. And I honestly don't
know if he truly cares about the

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accolades. He just loves playing football. You care about Everyone cares about the

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accolade. You can't sit here and
say you don't care about the accolades.

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You care about thelades at this point
and stuff in your career. Those things

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mean something, especially if you want
to go to the next level and play

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because those things. Sophomore she's a
sophomore Jay like I mean he's going.

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Look, I get it, he
cares about it. You know, we

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can agree to disagree on this one. But he has time to grow because

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he does have some stuff that he
has to work on. Like he got

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a little bit exposed, you know, Kyle HALLI state, like Kyle staying,

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we already confirmed that straight, Like
he's staying, that's how do we

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confirm that it ain't even fifty this
man, he's staying, He's not He's

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not you. Yeah, he's a
program guy. List from this offensive Lineman

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center that it was all Big ten
even though we were six and five.

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You did this is this is to
James point, to James point, you

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can't. I understand that, yes, you want more players to get all

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Big ten because you have success with
your program. But when you have a

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guy who had so high, he
set the bar so high as far as

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his production this year and even last
year that I think by now he deserves

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the nod for First team. What
linebacker can you name in the Big ten

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that actually outplayed Cal Holliday this year? Oh? Absolutely, I mean I

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agree with you. That's the point. We won't ancillary players, Okay,

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Like I get it, Like,
okay, if you're like a guy who's

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on the border on the bubble.
Maybe, yeah, you don't get the

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nod unless you are twelve and oh
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Cal, Holiday, you gotta take
a look at this a little harder.

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Maybe do a little bit more pushing. I don't know that's something that Jay

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You was talking about. Maybe they
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that. But guys, you know
what's hard, trying to deal with all

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the distractions that you have to deal
with during the course of a season that

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Michigan State had this year and promote
your players. Say that we had other

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things, other bigger fish to fry
on this thing here, priorities wise,

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right. But if I'm cal,
I'm keeping this. I'm taking a photo

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of this thing. I'm putting it
by in my room. Everything like that.

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This is gonna be motivation for next
year because he got snubbed. This

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kid got snubbed this year. You
can't lead the conference and tackles and then

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be second team overall snubbed. I
love it going to the next All Big

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Ten caliber player. You look at
Jadeen Reed, third team specialists, third

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team guys. So what do you
say about that one otis. I mean,

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he was hurt that front to half
a half a game the game and

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half. You know, really,
really, how do you even judge this

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Because we know this guy's predig pedigree, we know this guy's track record.

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You know, maybe if he was
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to add a little bit more opportunities
to run that thing back there. But

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also you got to kind of think
about our defensive did we truly give him

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the amount of opportunities in three and
outs to punt the ball to him?

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So you know, he, like
I told our last episode, uh you

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know, the two touchdowns that got
called back. You know, maybe they

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would have added more elements to it, but you know, it is what

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it is. And you know Jay
Reed is already mentally discussing or talking about,

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you know, when he's training right
now for the NFL. But it

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is his third team is a huge
disrespect model for that. But you know,

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I think he's gonna use that to
fuel his his fire when he got

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use to the next level. Here's
one I think that we can all agree

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on, even Jay you even though
this is not technically a kicker barringer.

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The Edelman fields Punter of the Year
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However, second Team All Big Ten
with the media, Yeah, I

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don't know what the hell the media
was watching or who you know. Maybe

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the media was eating that food that
you talked about in Illinois, you know

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what I'm saying. That's what I'm
thinking. You know, maybe the media

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you know, in those and that's
huge, you know those press rooms with

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the food that everything you know that
it matters, doesn't it, It does

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matter. They're comfortable in there,
they're eating good, they're drinking good,

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they're feeling good. They're gonna vote
good. So you're saying we need to

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we need to improve our pop from
popcorn to gourmet burn ins and barbecue and

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pizzas. On Illinois they had homemade
horse radish, homemade Tell you what about

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the cookies, man, And pizza
and beer, yeah beer in the in

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the box man. Yes, you
were on the air to they were drinking

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beer, drinking beer. They were
free horse radish for those I'm telling you,

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those are the little things helped,
you know, the media. You

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got to take care of the media
to take care of you. This was

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this for the crab. You know, this should have been a consensus both

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first team. This man bailed us
out time and time again. Oh man,

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a weapon of a leg, Like
we almost would have converted him to

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be our placekicker as well, just
to see if he can do that,

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because this man was consistent every time
he lie back there. That one bad

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botch snap wasn't his fault, but
he almost clearly if you have probably caught

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that with one hand, he would
have got it off and kicked it.

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But yeah, but this guy deserves
to be a consistent All Big Ten first

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team hands down. Like we're talking
about snub, but talking about the snub

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with Holiday, this one is a
true, true, true snub, like

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absolutely time and time again and then
you and if he wins the Ray Guy

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Award, that is truly truly an
opportunity to say. The Big Ten is

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tripping right now with the voting process. The media coaches did voting on coaches

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obviously because they're on the field,
they get it. They understand it.

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You know, I am not trying
to disrespect the media because we kind of

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are media as well, but they
get it. They see with a different

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kind of media, right, with
different kind of media, we understand what's

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going on those guys. Is right
for a living, you know. I

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mean, hey, look, we're
all here trying to get the people the

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education that they want, that they
need in order to grow this thing so

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that all the ship rises with the
tide. That's all we're here for.

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I like what they said on the
MSU football They said they called him a

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certified field flipper. That's that's that's
the jit surtified field flipper Bryce mm hmm.

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That's got a nice ring to it. Don and gentlemen, moving on

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to Jacob Slade and Simeon Barrow,
honorable mentioned coaches and media. Slave should

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have Slave would have been the first
team if you can get hurt clearly or

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Xavier in my opinion now x Donald
Richard media, the x could have been.

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He put in a full out.
I mean, the things he had

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to do coming back and playing with
one leg and that knee brace, like

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that knee brace is not built and
we I think we've all straight Jason.

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I don't know if you have to
do them knee braces back in the day,

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back when all had Don Joy boy
boys, you know, that's all

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we have. Yeah, Now,
could you imagine having to truly backpedal I

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had to. I had to wear
my senior year. I had to wear

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my senior in two thousand and eight. That thing sucks, man, and

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for him to come in made an
impact of just communication. That man was

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sticking. He made turnovers that that
should have been more of a like,

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hey, because of your past years, let's get you at least a second

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team. But like that guy deserves
to obviously the honor mentioned kudos to him

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from safety to safety. But he
made a huge difference in turning the tie

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for our defense when we went on
and beat Illinois, upset them. That's

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because him his communication. He was
the glue that was from the senior lifts

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in Wisconsin. Yeah, and the
senior leadership that he had and the coaching

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piece, like he needs to.
He needs to be honored bigger than the

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automole bitch in my opinion, without
question. I mean, you can't be

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a skilled player wearing them. It's
crazy. Man. Moving on to the

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offense, Keon Coleman, King Kong
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Yeah, buddy, you like that? And Jaydon Reeve was second team.

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Now I think this needs to be
flipped. If we was gonna obviously stand

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by this, and but Kean put
on clearly you can't. I mean you

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got Marvin Harrison Junior like hands down, like respect giving that guy legit caught

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everything thrown to him. But Kean, Kean, if they were to target

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him more, this man could have
been first team. That's that's that's that's

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my argument on that one. We
gotta get in the ball more. Is

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that? Is that what you're telling
is that? Is that why I'm here

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to get the man in the ball. Get that man. The man gotta

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get the ball a little bit more, Okay, a lot more, Give

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the man a lot more. I
didn't see anybody over there. And the

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boys in blue that can that can
handle. They were scared to death and

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they us. Yeah, I already
want to talk man. He I always

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want to talk about that. That
other guy down the road. Uh gg

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square g squared. He put that
man in the body bag, yo,

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like that was before the tunnel isten
in. So but this man, this

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man, time and time again,
showed what he can do. And why

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would we not give him the ball? Why wouldn't we not say, hey,

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we're gonna guarantee you at least twelve
touches, twelve passes, like,

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you gotta go more than that.
I was like, at least take the

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attention away from Jay Reid so then
Jay ree can get busy. I think

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it was just or Trey Mosley,
like we had a committee that when before

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we started the first episode we talked
about the trio the receivers, that we

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had a glue. We had a
beastie receiver corps in those three, and

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I feel like we just didn't tap
into utilizing them and their skill set at

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the one hundred percent capacity that we
know with that they could all three due

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collectively. Yeah, don't forget the
leek Carr either. That's the guy who

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Liszen mentioned it all. But he
had some beastie performances too at the tight

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end position in case people wanted to
go away from Kean Coleman. Yeah,

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with Malik, I like Malik.
I like Malie Carr a lot. I

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think he's gonna be special. He's
gonna be something special, real good tight

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end here. What I want is
I want to see that man throw some

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gloves, get a little swag going
there, because you know that's what I

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want to see. Because you know
what, coach, he can't do the

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cal holiday. No, he can't
do the cow holiday man. The brother

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got to be out there with gloves
on, put some you know tape on.

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You don't look good, like Coach
Prime said, you look good,

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you play good. You play good, they pay good. I mean that

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boy's got that w W E n
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specimen. Yeah he got that.
Yeah, but you know, playing the

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league first, that hit that WWE
There you go. But he did make

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a hell of a one hand to
catch how he posted them up on the

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left hand. I mean that was
ridiculous. But you gotta think it's consistency

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with probably like can you stay on
the field multiple plays in series where you

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know you had a committee of tight
ends where none of them truly could get

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a momentum or mojo going like,
so you got a block? Why is

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that? Otis? Why you tell
me? Why tell me? I see

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a lot a committee of tight ends
down there and in Athens, Georgia,

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they have a committee. Yeah,
about seventeen five stars down there playing tight

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end. They passing that rock though, that's why they are targeting. He's

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that boy sharing that rock equally to
like it ain't no like target one.

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I'm gonna lock on you. It's
it's the progression is real down there.

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And I mean Pitts State showed it
too, like they got to commit.

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So yeah, it's it's we gotta
find the glue that you know that we

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can get these guys going. Let's
move it along. We got too old

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lineman. Now we gotta give the
line of some level. And Nick Saymac

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both honorable mentioned offensive line all big
ten and Saint Mac center, you know,

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made some plays out there. Man, those are two seniors. You

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know, Saint Mac got a Ohio, both of them at Ohio made some

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plays down there. Man. I
mean, look, I think they guy

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is gonna get a shot at the
next level, both of them. I

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really like from I believe it was
the Wisconsin game, the progression of the

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offensive line. They started to get
more in rhythm, they started to find

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that stride. That's when we started
to run for you don't have one hundred

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yard rushers again. I think,
you know, another year of cohesiveness and

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chemistry, those guys are gonna start
mauling. And you know, congratulators,

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congratulate everybody you know Honorable mentioned,
first team, second team and thirteen you

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know Spartan Dogs representing we're proud of
you boys. Keith Rowland. All right,

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guys, we're gonna get into our
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Man. I was gonna saying I'm more

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excited about our guest that we have
right now. That's Corey Robinson, who

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joins us right now, live from
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High School recruiting everything that is recruiting
from Michigan State. Welcome to the show.

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This is part of Corey Robinson.
How you doing, Bud, Good,

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thanks for having me on. We've
been trying to plan this for a

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while and good that we can finally
make this happen. Absolutely it's time for

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you. Man. This is this
is like the hot season we got when

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you shine right, turns over to
Corey Rockets. What's going on out here?

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Man? The end season? This
is my end season. You know,

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we talked about like, you know, like there's a lot of topics

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to cover when you talk about what
coaches have to deal with in today's recruiting.

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And you have your you know,
you have recruiting the high school team

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00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.559
players, you know those guys.
You have the portal that you have to

408
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:57.400
go out there and find players.
You also have to protect your players and

409
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:02.119
the roster management of it all coy, Like, how does all that intermingle

410
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.839
and work together in concert? In
your opinion? Yeah, I mean we're

411
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.400
gonna find out. This is honestly
the first time that everything is hit at

412
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:15.839
once. I mean, you you
just finished your regular season. Transfer portal

413
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:22.319
opens up on December fifth. Officially
you get December twenty first is the early

414
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.400
signing period for the high school players, and then you get the coaching carousels

415
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:31.079
all over the country going around.
So this, I guess I don't even

416
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:37.680
really know what's totally in store for
or what a new normal for December is

417
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.599
gonna look like it's just gonna be
wild, is all I know, and

418
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:47.640
not a lot of sleep for me, So mean, go ahead. My

419
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:52.319
question to this, Corey is how
does this, especially with you know,

420
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:54.319
the position Michigan States in right now, you know, could get an at

421
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:59.160
large bull bid, you know,
with the transfer portal opening up at you

422
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.000
know, in four days here,
how does that affect Bull season and Bull

423
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:07.920
selection? Yeah, I mean,
I think if I was a bowl committee,

424
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.359
I think that's something I would look
at as the players that have left

425
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:14.640
already and then like you said,
you look at Michigan State, You've only

426
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:20.480
lost Jack Stone, who the kicker
who is probably not going to play football

427
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.039
beyond this, and that's the right
opportunity comes along. That's just kind of

428
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:28.839
the word out on the street is
that he's actually gonna step away from football.

429
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:32.000
So I think them not having guys
leave probably makes them more attractive.

430
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:38.480
Two bowls that are looking around for
those last couple of spots where Michigan State

431
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:45.839
would fall into that that category.
Mhmm, Yeah, Corey, you know,

432
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:51.240
you gotta you gotta shed some light
behind the scenes where people are tuning

433
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:57.799
in and who really don't know the
details and the severity of like what recruiting

434
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.279
truly entails. Know, so at
the end of the season, you know,

435
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.559
we played Penn State. Obviously you've
been tracking along and seeing all the

436
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.239
trends and all the flips and the
commitments here and there. But we all

437
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:12.880
know a commitment doesn't mean a thing
until you silent that dot of line.

438
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:17.000
But kind of bring spartanation into behind
the scenes, behind the curtain on what

439
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:21.760
is your full day to day,
like right now as you start to prepare

440
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.880
for you know, this month.
Yeah, I mean right now, we're

441
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:29.719
getting back to that point where like
you're almost scared to hop in the car

442
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.920
or go to sleep because you think
you're gonna miss something. So that keeps

443
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.840
the adrenaline going. But because I
mean all of this stuff, you know,

444
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:42.079
there's been so many times where I'd
be like, I already, I

445
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.000
think it's ten thirty, eleven o'clock, eleven thirty, nothing's gonna happen,

446
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.199
And then all of a sudden,
my phone starts blowing up and some kid

447
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.159
decided like that was the time that
he was gonna make his announcement in the

448
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.840
middle of the night. So then
you got to get everything rolling with that

449
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.880
when you don't get the heads up
on it, because sometimes they just have.

450
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.480
Luckily, I got a pretty good
team with me at twenty four to

451
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.599
seven, so we're pretty good at
getting alerts before things happen. But every

452
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:13.639
now and then even we still get
surprised. But yeah, it's a whole

453
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:19.119
lot different ball game now because it's
still the relationships, it's still opportunity,

454
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.880
all that stuff that you guys made
your decisions on in college. But with

455
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:28.119
the NIL now and all the tampering
that's happening around the country. Like I

456
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.760
mean, at this point, if
if you're not doing it, then you're

457
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:35.719
not trying. So yeah, it's
just a wild time. And I think

458
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.920
you see maybe some coaches if it
doesn't get under control with the ncbl A,

459
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:44.719
I wonder how many of them end
up just going to the NFL where

460
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.280
they don't have to deal with all
of the side shows and they actually have

461
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:53.119
rules in place of what's legal and
what you can do and what's tampering and

462
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:59.480
what's not. So yeah, I
think we're at a different place in college

463
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.079
football. I mean, you look
down at Texas A and M it's spent

464
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:07.599
I think thirty two million dollars for
that twenty two class, and you're starting

465
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.920
to see guys after them still not
getting it done on the field. They're

466
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:15.559
starting to leave now, taking that
money and heading out to another school they

467
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:22.559
want. So that's gonna be another
precautionary tale for the donors that want to

468
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:29.679
buy a championship, like you're seeing
down in Miami where Jason's really familiar with

469
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:34.159
what's going down there with having his
son down at IMG. So I mean

470
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:45.920
a lot of buyers anymore. I
think I just broke the U right right

471
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:53.079
on the screen. Listen, this
is his that's his life, this is

472
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:57.760
my life. I'm smarting for life. And to your point, when you

473
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.440
talked about you brought up something tall
Tampa, and when you talk about that,

474
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:05.719
like what are the rules associated with
how schools are allowed to communicate with

475
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.960
players before or after they get into
the portal? And how does that work

476
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:15.960
with nil? Yeah, well before
they're not technically able to. But obviously

477
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:24.280
that's happening all over to the country. Coaches, no coaches or players,

478
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:30.440
Like maybe you had a past relationship
with a kid that you recruited in high

479
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.000
school, so you know his high
school coaches, there is someone in his

480
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:38.920
family or whatever, and you just
kind of have those connections loosely in the

481
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:45.719
background that messages can get sent back
and forth of what someone is thinking or

482
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.360
not thinking. So yeah, just
kind of gauging interest and like I mean

483
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:54.320
for us even before this year,
where I think it's even wilder with that,

484
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:59.559
like Jamis and Williams down in Alabama, like you see him hop in

485
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:04.480
and then you start asking people in
your industry, in my industry around like,

486
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.079
oh, does he got anyone?
And I thought he's going to Alabama,

487
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:09.400
So I mean, I was like
decided before it happened. Uh,

488
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:15.000
same with their running back that they
got Jami or Gibbs. He was a

489
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.880
guy that would have obviously looked great
in the Michigan State uniform. But the

490
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:23.840
same deal where that was done before
before he ever officially went in. So

491
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:28.760
so yeah, it's definitely definitely not
legal. But as you guys have been

492
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.639
around college football, you know that
there's always if you're not cheating, you're

493
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:37.440
not trying. That's how it goes, and if you want to be successful,

494
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:39.519
you just gotta do what you gotta
do and not get caught. Mmm.

495
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:45.599
Wow, would you look at that? So I can't believe my ears.

496
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.920
What did you just hear? What? He's just sad? Fellas?

497
00:38:52.320 --> 00:39:00.559
Yeah, these guys, I love
you. I'm staying out here going.

498
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.519
He loyal, he loyal. Okay, did you say, william he left?

499
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:07.159
What did? What did we said, Williams? Where do he lead

500
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:15.559
to go to Alabama? Uh?
Ohio state? Oh? Are they any

501
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.239
good about? Yeah? I'm just
asking. I'm just saying, now I

502
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.119
had a place that was any good. Did they have a track record for

503
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:28.960
putting receivers into the NFL? Yep? And where did he go? He

504
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:32.760
left? Yeah, I'm saying this
is this is something that we gotta as

505
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:40.159
a total different player, y'all?
Ye man, Yeah, that's even like

506
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:46.400
my job too now is like recruiting. I can't talk his indefinite as I

507
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:51.559
did back then either because I could
know everything about the recruitment that I need

508
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:57.960
to know. But then somebody comes
in with an an il opportunity as they

509
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:02.519
like to call him, you know, and and everything everything changes to be

510
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:10.440
kind of like back us. That's
what I mean. Like now, you'll

511
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:16.320
see like Michigan down the road there, they they just lost their top commit

512
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:22.400
a defensive end of Miami and they're
twelve and going into the playoffs as long

513
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:29.480
as there and and it's just like
like if you're choosing five and seven Miami

514
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:35.840
over twelve, And I mean that
makes world that that one, that one

515
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:39.199
right there made the six to eight
kid from UH I think he was from

516
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:44.760
West Africa, but he lives out
in California and the Trinity League West Africa

517
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:52.239
baby n I L N I L
makes How do you commit from Michigan after

518
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:58.559
the performance they just split on Ohio
State as a and they just have the

519
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:05.239
defensive linement of the year ten.
Yeah, so I mean last year too.

520
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:14.760
He couldn't Liberian He's from Liberia.
So, Cory, my question for

521
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:20.320
you is, you know, now
with the ni L and recruiting from you

522
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.519
know, the high school level,
these kids you know getting shown, you

523
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:28.639
know, private jets, getting money, getting all this stuff, there's a

524
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:31.679
you know, with Michigan State,
what what is it gonna take? Is

525
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:37.159
there a chance that that kid from
king More could be flipped to Michigan State,

526
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:45.599
especially now that the O C from
Oregon's going to Arizona State. Oh

527
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:50.079
boy, were getting into it,
let's stop. Yeah, I do think

528
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:57.719
getting the job at Arizona State was
one of those dominoes that had to happen

529
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:02.000
for this to even get really serious
for them to have a shot at flipping

530
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:07.639
him. Obviously, it's still an
uphill battle and you're gonna get other teams

531
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:13.119
that try to get involved with you. But I think Michigan State they have

532
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.360
a shot. Yes. Would I
put my house on the line that they

533
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:21.599
get them. No, But like
you say, it's like, all you

534
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:27.559
need to do is have that one
business owner that's tied to Michigan State that

535
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.920
says this kid, I need to
make this kid spartan, then make him

536
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:36.519
that offer that he can't refuse,
because I know, coming out of his

537
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.880
high school, Michigan State was actually
very high on his list when he chose

538
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:46.400
Oregon. We had been at his
press conference and a lot of his coaches

539
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:52.800
and family were saying that they were
surprised Michigan State took bo Edmondson at the

540
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:57.840
time when they did, because they
were seriously considering Michigan State and saw them

541
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:02.840
as a spot. So I guess
now Minson is gone and his offensive coordinator

542
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.480
Orgon's gone, So now we're kind
of back to uh square one again with

543
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:12.840
it. With two three weeks before
signing day, and he's an kid that's

544
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.280
going to enroll early, so he
could this would be something that could happen

545
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:21.800
quick where if Michigan State's able to
get the job done and laying Dante more,

546
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:27.880
he's going to be on campus before
the end of the month. So

547
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:34.480
does it mean anything that he took
his commitment organ off his his bios and

548
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.119
stuff like that. Does that mean
anything these days? Or is it just

549
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:43.719
yeah, yeah off his Twitter bio. I think it gives people something to

550
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:47.480
talk about and like, like,
I mean, like he he That's the

551
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:51.079
way I look at it. And
we talk in the background a lot of

552
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:55.119
stuff with people, and I'm like, he's not a he didn't just learn

553
00:43:55.159 --> 00:44:01.239
how to do business. Like so, even even if Kenny Dillingham never left

554
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:07.119
all of that stuff, it didn't
make sense for him to not give Michigan

555
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:12.119
State interest because all that's gonna do
is create you know, yesterday's price isn't

556
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:16.840
today's price necessarily, So you know, that's just good for business to to

557
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:22.199
want to hear what Michigan State has
or what or Oregon wants to say,

558
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:27.960
because that's only gonna make your n
I L deal better. So so he's

559
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:32.280
a good businessman, not new to
it. So well, where he goes,

560
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.280
he's gonna he's gonna get a good
deal and get taken care of.

561
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:40.159
I mean, whether that's Michigan State, Oregon, or somewhere crazy jumps in

562
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:45.840
with an offer you can't refuse.
Do you think the the season that Michigan

563
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:53.719
State had hurt No. I think
stuff like that. I always say that

564
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:59.280
that hurts the fans or the media
that have to sit up there and watch

565
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:02.960
it, watch it from time to
time. I think a bad season is

566
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.960
more, you know, detrimental to
those type of people. Where you guys,

567
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:12.719
when you came in to Michigan State
as a high school player, you're

568
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.320
you know, you're, you knew
you're like you had that confidence in yourself

569
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.880
that you were going to be the
one that's going to start and break these

570
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:25.199
records play in the NFL like you
guys did so like they you guys probably

571
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:30.559
felt the same way where you looked
at an opportunity like Dante More can say,

572
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:37.239
Okay, they have Peyton Thorn coming
back most likely, and you can

573
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:42.320
never say never in this era,
but he could say, all right,

574
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.719
I can come in here and kind
of do what they do down the road

575
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:49.400
where I get some snaps as a
freshman and kind of learn under him and

576
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:52.880
ease my way in and take over
for two years as a starter here.

577
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:57.480
But you know, all these guys
have so much confidence in themselves. That's

578
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:02.039
saying that there they could be the
guy that takes Michigan State to the championships

579
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:08.480
that melt Tucker talks about all the
time. Yeah, when you think about

580
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:15.800
it historically, like I feel like
every other program besides US has started a

581
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:22.199
true freshman quarterback. And I guess
the christ question is why is that?

582
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:28.800
Corey On? You know, why
are we so hesitant to give the ship

583
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:31.960
or give the keys to a true
freshman and let the ship, let the

584
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:35.559
chips fall where they may, and
say, hey, we're gonna live and

585
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:39.320
die. Buy some freshness and new
energy and a freshman quarterback coming in.

586
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:42.960
You know why? Why? Why
is that? Do you do? You

587
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.119
know you've covered us for a while, you know, can you can you

588
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:50.039
harp on that? And uh do
you think that you know Dante Moore has

589
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.400
that skill set after you know seeing
him play uh you know for four years

590
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:58.360
at Detroit King to come in and
be a full starter coming right in.

591
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.400
Yeah, I think to get Dante
more like, there's gonna have to be

592
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.360
some hey, we're gonna give you
a legitimate shot to play as a true

593
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.760
freshman. I think there is gonna
have to be some of that in the

594
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:14.920
recruiting pitch, and I think Michigan
State would be willing to at least,

595
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.920
you know, whether it's maybe not
starting, but at least getting snaps and

596
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:23.880
then see where that takes you,
just like some of the other schools JJ

597
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:29.800
McCarthy stuff like that at Michigan.
As far as the Michigan State doing it,

598
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.760
I think some of it like maybe
next year, like I think Peyton

599
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:38.599
Thorn you bring back regardless because as
you guys have all seen, there's not

600
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.679
a lot of happy people with a
five and seven season, So there is

601
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:45.840
a little bit of heat and pressure
on well Tucker in the Michigan State program.

602
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:51.840
So you almost want to have that
safety net of your worst case scenario

603
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:57.639
as you're bringing back a three year
starter in Peyton Thorn with some guys in

604
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:02.280
the background. But maybe maybe I
guess the best answer is maybe Michigan State

605
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:07.159
hasn't gotten a player of his caliber
that was ready to play as a true

606
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:12.079
freshman like some of those other schools, like a Caleb Williams who was at

607
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.000
Oklahoma and now at USC, Like
he's just a different level. And I

608
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:22.000
think Dante Moore is a guy that
he's prepared enough mentally to go along with

609
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.960
his physical tools that he could come
in here and actually take the job and

610
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:30.840
win the job if it was given
the opportunity. Because that's the thing too,

611
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:32.159
is you look at all these quarterbacks
in the country. They all have

612
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:38.000
great highlights because you'll never see their
bad place. But Dante More, he's

613
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:43.280
a little bit different between the years, Like he really understands that he gets

614
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.320
it. He's got a different bunch
of different arm spots that he gets the

615
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:52.800
ball out like Patrick Mahomes and some
of those other guys. So he's kind

616
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.880
of a total package quarterback and that's
what makes him special. And I think

617
00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:00.400
that the number two player in the
country for US at twenty four than sports.

618
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.880
So yeah, like he would come
here and he would have a shot

619
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.159
to play as a true freshman because
he's good enough. Okay, so my

620
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:12.840
question to you is, Okay,
let's just say More goes to Oregon and

621
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:17.320
Michigan State does not make a move
in the transfer portal four quarterback or anything

622
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:25.440
like that. Is Peyton Thorn the
guy starting next year or is there someone

623
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:31.800
else, possibly Noah Kim, that
could possibly beat him out. Yeah,

624
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:36.400
yeah, I think you absolutely bring
Thorn back, But I think you also

625
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:42.599
bring him back with the the I
guess the message that this is completely wide

626
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.679
open for Kate and how iSER the
true freshman this year, Noah Kim,

627
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:50.119
who he got a couple of snaps
and looked good. I mean five and

628
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:53.400
seven is not good enough to lock
down the quarterback position to me, So

629
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:59.199
that's got to be open for me
if I'm the offensive coordinator and head coach.

630
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:04.480
I don't think Thorn didn't do enough
to lose the job, but he

631
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.079
didn't do enough to just hand it
to him for a third year. I

632
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:15.320
think winter conditioning, springball, and
then even those early game reps against some

633
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:22.119
of the lesser opponents. It needs
to be a competition because I know before

634
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:23.679
I came on the show, I
was listening to you guys about key On

635
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:30.719
Coleman needing more targets. But I
think he probably got overthrown more than any

636
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:34.639
Wish receiver in the country this year, and key On Coleman is a big

637
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.760
guy that can jump high, so
it's not easy to overthrow him, and

638
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.199
a lot of that stuff was unjust
easy throws that he's got to make ten

639
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:44.639
out of ten times. So to
me, I think it's got to be

640
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:50.360
an open competition at the very least. You know, you bring up a

641
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:54.519
great point you talked about like Dantemore, In my opinion, no question his

642
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:59.719
talent, physical talent. There's no
doubt that he is a guy who's gonna

643
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:04.239
start as a true freshman the Big
ten level or any level college football.

644
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:07.920
You know when you look at guys
like Bryce Young, right, you know,

645
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:13.320
now this is the guy who I
suppose my old coach Nick Saban,

646
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:19.280
and he's telling me that that was
the most prepared freshman that he's ever had,

647
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:24.559
and he didn't start as a true
freshman. He's the guy who you

648
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:28.679
know, I mean, he had
he had some issues sitting on the bench

649
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:32.199
for the first time in his life
as a red shirt freshman, watching you

650
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:37.000
know, a player in front of
him perform. But when he was able

651
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:42.119
to come in and start as a
red shirt freshman, the second year he

652
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:45.400
comes in and wins the Heisman Trophy, do you think there's any value in

653
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:51.280
a guy like Dante Moore coming to
Michigan State, you know, and sitting

654
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:58.320
behind whomever is the starter, which
is a little different than a guy like

655
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:04.599
kyten Hauser. Kayten Hauser was from
the same area in California as Bryce Young

656
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.800
was from. But kateen Houser was
a guy that didn't start. He shared

657
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:13.519
time in high school with a guy
on his own high school team. I

658
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:17.880
think that many spartans don't know or
understand that part of it. He shared

659
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:23.679
snaps as a high school senior with
someone else, Dante Moore all the way

660
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:28.880
through. He's been the man at
Detroit King Martin Luther King High School and

661
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:32.719
won multiple state championships. So is
there any value in a guy like Dante

662
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:37.119
Moore coming to Michigan State and watching
a guy like maybe Peyton Thorne, I

663
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:42.800
don't know, if it's Noah Kim
or whomever kyten Houser and absorbing what he

664
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:47.880
can and then a year from then
unleashing the beast. Yeah, I think

665
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.880
you can get menu out of it, because if you're doing that, then

666
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.760
you can work on all the extra
things like maybe, I mean, I

667
00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.480
guess maybe per the quarterback is not
as important. But like some of those

668
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:01.760
guys, you know, you could
if you know you're not gonna play in

669
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:05.840
your red shirting, you can hit
the way harder, or you know,

670
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.480
you can spend more time in the
playbook and just kind of watching it and

671
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:14.320
seeing the speed firsthand, because I
mean, the college game, as you

672
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:17.280
guys know, is a huge jump
up in speed and all of that.

673
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:21.480
So I guess be on the sidelines, you would be able to see that

674
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:25.400
and take it in. And then
two with the red shirt rule where you

675
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:30.440
can get into four games and keep
your red shirt. I think even if

676
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:35.119
that's what it came to where you
you played him in four games, you

677
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:37.760
know, not starting necessarily, but
you get in, get your reps,

678
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:43.480
get some throws, let him actually
run the offense, and then you stop.

679
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.119
You cut it off at four games. You know, then then you

680
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:51.519
got your feet wet and you kind
of got that learning opportunity from sitting out

681
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:55.519
there and watching. You know,
we were remiss if we didn't talk about

682
00:53:55.559 --> 00:54:01.800
some of the high school guys that
are on the board. Corey Stanton ram

683
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:07.440
Or Ramel, the guy who's committed
to Michigan State playing the State championship game

684
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:14.199
right now this season, this this
this weekend. Yeah, actually he's when

685
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:19.559
Wednesday night championship down in Alabama.
It's weird, Like I actually thought it

686
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.400
was this Saturday, just out of
habit, like that's when you would play

687
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:28.239
a championship game. I believe they're
actually going for their fourth UH state championship

688
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:30.880
in a row at Thompson down there. He plays for one of the best

689
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:37.079
programs in Alabama, obviously playing for
the state championship and winning multiple ones.

690
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:42.039
I think he's a guy that,
you know, he's obviously a popular name

691
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:45.880
for other other teams trying to get
him. Uh. He's saying all the

692
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:51.280
right things to the Michigan State coaches. You know that he's committed, he's

693
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:54.679
coming. Uh. But he's the
one in the class on the offensive side

694
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:59.280
of the ball that I think like
he's the most key recruit that they have

695
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:04.480
that they need to hold on to
because that's a guy that is gonna would

696
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.599
make a huge impact on the offensive
tackle position here at Michigan State. And

697
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:13.400
he's probably a guy that I don't
know that necessarily that he would play as

698
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.559
a true freshman because that's really hard
on the offensive line. But he's a

699
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:21.199
guy that could at least be in
the conversation to do that. But yeah,

700
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:27.039
he's a guy that can change your
entire offensive line quickly because he's got

701
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:31.760
that left tackle franchise type of ability
to him and body type. So he's

702
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:36.960
one that they've really got to hold
on to do whatever they gotta do to

703
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:43.280
make sure he signs on December twenty
first, so he freeze. Don't slide

704
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:49.920
in the DMS. Please, if
you own a business in east Land,

705
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:59.559
sing, that's your guy, that
you that's what I'm talking about. What

706
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:04.119
you gonna I was just gonna throw
a spot shot at the lineman there,

707
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:15.360
you know, but listen, listen. When I played running back at Michigan

708
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:21.360
State after games obviously wins, I
would give the lineman handwritten notes I'll put

709
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.360
in the lockers thanking them for the
for blocking. So don't don't come at

710
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:28.480
me like I don't love the lineman. I love the big boys. Love

711
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:35.519
the big boys. Shots then none, no time. My question, my

712
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:38.599
question of Cory is something I'm interested
in and I'm sure people you know working

713
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:44.920
with two four seven sports, and
how does the Raid and the stars,

714
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:47.480
you know, how do you how
do you get stars. How do you

715
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:52.679
become a free star, four star, five star? How do you get

716
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:58.159
those? I don't have anything to
do with the stars, So don't no

717
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.960
recruits hitting my d ms about what
you're start writing this. But a lot

718
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:09.280
of it is we got a lot
of evaluators that have been covering football for

719
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:15.960
in some cases decades where they just
kind of go over the film. A

720
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:20.800
lot of these kids go to camps. They'll take like the the metrics that

721
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:24.599
you'll see with the NFL Draft where
the guys that are getting drafted there,

722
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:30.400
they'll kind of like look at those
type of metrics, whether the hand size,

723
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:36.039
the athleticism, the power numbers,
all that stuff, and they see

724
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.599
where those type of guys were in
high school. Because now we're at the

725
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:45.079
point where, you know, with
all the technology that we can track what

726
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:50.480
Jahu Colcrik did on the triple jump
in high school, you know, and

727
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:54.320
see all of these things and just
kind of build a prototype for what you're

728
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:59.079
looking for in a player, which
and as you guys know, it's not

729
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.119
an exact sion because a lot of
these guys they don't play each other,

730
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:06.280
and if they do, it's in
shorts, you know, because you have

731
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:09.000
rules where you can't have the helmets
and pads in the summertime with a lot

732
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:14.599
of the states like Michigan, so
they don't get to match up. So

733
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:20.280
there's some guesswork to it, but
there's a lot of scientific stuff that guys

734
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:23.559
much smarter than me used to come
up with these rankings, and we're always

735
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:30.559
gonna miss just because there's so many
people coming from so many different areas and

736
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:35.599
kids' bodies change. Like you get
those guys that peak in ninth or tenth

737
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:39.079
grade that get a high ranking because
they dominate at these camps and they're making

738
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:44.960
plays as freshmen. But maybe some
of those guys don't progress as they go.

739
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:50.119
Where you get another guy that comes
in senior year and maybe he grew

740
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:53.960
four inches or finally was able to
start putting on weight and muscle, and

741
00:58:54.119 --> 00:59:00.480
change completely elevates the type of player
that he's gonna become. You know,

742
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:04.320
And guys don't DM Corey and try
to tell him to get your star rating

743
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.159
up, because I do it all
the time. I'm trying to get my

744
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:09.559
star rating up. I didn't have
a star when I was coming out of

745
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:13.239
high school. And he can't do
nothing for me. So if he didn't

746
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.519
do nothing for me, definitely you
have a star. You have a star,

747
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:22.559
which you have what did you have? Top fifty? Baby? That's

748
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:27.519
it. That's it, that's all
that in these finest that's all. That's

749
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:34.239
all I had. So but that's
what's weird looking back, even like in

750
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:37.639
two thousand, if you go pull
up twenty four to seven and look at

751
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:43.320
the Michigan State team rankings, like
you would have like Charles Rogers or Jeff

752
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:47.440
Smoker, they would be like the
five stars or whatever. But but then

753
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:52.320
you would have like these really good
players that at the time you knew they

754
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:54.320
were good players and the high school
ranking, but they didn't even have a

755
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:59.920
star because we just didn't give them
out back in the then in the industry

756
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:05.719
that much outside of like the Parade
All Americans almost the progression come come a

757
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:09.480
long ways. Now you got guys
with stars that don't even have a number

758
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:15.800
ranking next to them, just because
it's easier to kind of see stuff and

759
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:21.599
try huddle in social media. Like
what you just said, you talked about

760
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:23.960
tracking and you know, like looking
at what jay U Kolbert was when he

761
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:30.039
was a freshman and how he progressed
and then you match that up because it's

762
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:32.119
not an exact science. And I
know you guys get a lot of criticism

763
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:37.199
because a lot of the five stars
from yesteryear you talk about two thousand and

764
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:42.800
five and ten fifteen may not have
been may not have panned out, but

765
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:49.719
you definitely are getting better. Like
how you guys are evaluating talent. My

766
01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:53.079
question is, why don't you ask
guys like Otis Wiley and Jayu Kolcher,

767
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:58.599
like what the best players are?
Just ask them? They know they they

768
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:04.960
like, like, why why don't
the the powers that pe con start with

769
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:10.199
former players that know without bias,
like you know who's good who's not.

770
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:15.880
I think I think the good ones
do. They just might not give Otis

771
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:21.320
and Jay and Jason credit for it. But I know, like in the

772
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:25.199
Midwest, Alan true, he's very
good at his job. He's one of

773
01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:30.159
the biggest reasons why why I came
to twenty four to seven sports was him,

774
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:36.719
and like he definitely like he'll even
listen to me a little bit every

775
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:40.559
now and then. The guys but
but but we all talk about you know,

776
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:45.559
hey, what feedback did you get
on this? And he might say

777
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:49.760
that, hey, I talked to
this guy who used to play who's now

778
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.599
coaching high school somewhere, and he
kind of put me on to the guy

779
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:58.039
and showed me his tape and kind
of showed me testing numbers, videos of

780
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:02.280
working out stuff like that. So
other good ones definitely are smart enough to

781
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:12.440
use their resources. You guys just
don't get a paycheck for it. Miss

782
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:15.840
some revenue here, man. I
think I think it's having that golden eye

783
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:22.039
of you see the growth of a
player, like you see the the level

784
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:27.239
that you know that if he continuously
works at his craft, that you can

785
01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:31.960
develop him into Jim Thorpe Award like
Coach d did with the you know,

786
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:37.519
Dark West Dinard. And I feel
like we're we're we're missing some guys that

787
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:45.400
are falling out of the recruiting trail
because they're not keen to the social media

788
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:50.000
hype and we're in that. We're
in this phase or this time of like

789
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:53.920
you got to have a hype video
and social media following that, you know,

790
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:59.360
that gets you the garner respect in
the nation versus like, all right,

791
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:02.599
can we find a three star kid
or you know, start two star

792
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:07.719
kid that man, he's out there
killing it and we know that if we

793
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:13.079
put the coaches into his corner and
develop him, he will be a stud

794
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:15.920
for us. I feel like we
were having some of those kids that are

795
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:20.320
following by the wayside, and these
COVID kids that you know had to truly

796
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:25.079
take a seat back because the portal
really elevated, you know, guys that

797
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:30.440
were truly in high school and having
to play through COVID and not get the

798
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.639
full chance like the other recruits they
used to have in the past and that

799
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:38.760
are having now. Yeah, and
I think too, like maybe it's just

800
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:45.199
the stigma if everyone sees like four
and five stars, but three stars across

801
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:49.079
the country that you turn on the
tape and you know they're good, and

802
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:53.519
and I mean there's obviously there's like
different people giving out the stars where I

803
01:03:53.519 --> 01:04:00.000
think we can all agree that there's
certain three stars in Georgia or Texas or

804
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.400
some of those places where if they
played up here in Michigan, they're forced

805
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:10.519
there, so that I mean,
they're clearly not player a better player because

806
01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:15.039
of that. It's just kind of
you have different people giving ratings, I

807
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:20.400
think, and then maybe a more
watered down market where in Michigan you're not

808
01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:26.920
seeing you maybe you get fifteen twenty
kids that have a shot each year at

809
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:31.199
playing Power five. So it's a
lot easier to to kind of go through

810
01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:38.119
those lists and find those guys where
down in Texas or Georgia some of those

811
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:44.719
other places California, there's thousands of
players that are just you know that you

812
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:48.199
have to evaluate and find and trust
the emails. So there's, like I

813
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:51.599
said, that's how it's always going
to be. In an exact science.

814
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:57.559
Where you see a sport like basketball, it's a lot easier because a lot

815
01:04:57.599 --> 01:05:00.480
of those guys play aau against each
other, so you get to see the

816
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:04.280
top guys matchup against each other.
Where in football, you don't necessarily get

817
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:11.199
that unless you go to like IMG
Jason's familiar with, Like they play an

818
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:15.159
insane schedule where they play some of
the best teams, and there's some teams

819
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:20.480
that they beat the breaks off of
this year that have six Power five high

820
01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:27.159
power five players on the team,
but they just get overrun by a team

821
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:33.320
entire depth almost as Power five.
So they're playing those ghost schools, right

822
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:43.519
those schools. I think Vennice won
the state championship down in Florida, and

823
01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:47.440
they had no chance against IMG,
like they couldn't even snap the ball and

824
01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:57.039
take two steps back before Cory.
You know who should win the NASA titles

825
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:04.360
Miami Central dude, I think it
was. I can't remember the defensive end

826
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:11.320
that they had. That dude was
insane against Muliaga too, So like you

827
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.920
earn that, like that's one of
those times because like you know, like

828
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.880
if you guys played in high school
and you were the best player in the

829
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:23.199
field, and so like Otis is
lined up outside, all of a sudden,

830
01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:27.000
you got three guys defending you.
So I mean, I am I

831
01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:30.119
am G can almost do that to
go out the best players the other team,

832
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:35.880
and that dude dominating. He's still
dominated. And they didn't lose a

833
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:41.400
game. They they did the IMG
and then now that they were ranked third,

834
01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:47.360
they're undefeated. Modern Day lost the
game to Bosco and Bosco lost the

835
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:51.119
Modern Day. But for some reason, Max Preps and I don't know why,

836
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:56.559
I think that they may have an
office in California or maybe headquarter in

837
01:06:56.639 --> 01:07:00.519
California has them both one and two
no matter what, uh was one loss

838
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:10.079
and then Miami Centrals number tamperings otis
who I m G playing? I mean

839
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:17.119
the ghost killers, you know right
here, right now. You know what

840
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:19.760
kills me is that, like we
just os. You was in the I

841
01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:24.480
H s A. You were in
the I H s A A couple just

842
01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:29.280
last year. Yeah, yeah,
yeah right, some dudes. Some dudes

843
01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:34.519
in it in Indiana too, some
dudes absolutely and you we was down there

844
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:39.119
in New York where all the ballers
are out there. You know, he

845
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:44.239
had guys like, uh against Mike
Hart. Mike Hart came out of you

846
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:48.440
know, in the b and the
Billy Billy. Uh what are the two

847
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:56.239
boys from Michigan State Billy and Green
Green? Come on, man Green Scott

848
01:07:56.280 --> 01:08:00.519
and Billy Green from the same hood. Oh boy, all these guys.

849
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:08.960
So put that aside. I just
want to know who I'm playing. What's

850
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:16.039
crazy is that Bishop Sycamore gave him
a better game than that Canadian. It

851
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:20.199
was. You had your grandpage,
you had j J. You to choose

852
01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:29.479
grandpat people in this club. The
grandpappy, Hey, what's your grandpaty saying

853
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:40.560
certificated it with all the transfer portal
stuff and transforming transferring and you know,

854
01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:45.800
taking that bag and not coming back. My grandpappy would say, be careful

855
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:49.680
of the foot you step on.
Because it could be connected to the leg

856
01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:59.439
and the butt that you have to
kiss on the he might drop might drop.

857
01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:03.319
Hey. I honestly we have to
bring Corey back on. Oh yeah,

858
01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:06.439
instant lyo, Like because we could
talk. I could talk for hours

859
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:10.720
about recruiting off right, and this
would be like a three hour show.

860
01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:14.600
This is Yeah. I think we
need we need to set times and having

861
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:17.880
back like once when the portal opens
up field, we got to bring it

862
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:23.800
back coming back, yeah, because
because with the portal too, like I

863
01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:27.560
can't put a whole lot of names
out there, otherwise I'll have a Michigan

864
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:32.800
State coaches coming at me because like
that's secret. Like that's like getting a

865
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:36.720
kicker or a punter, Like they
don't want you to say their name until

866
01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:43.239
they're literally about to send their commitment
video out. Like and that's kind of

867
01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:45.760
how the same thing as the portal. I think it's starting to get a

868
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.399
little bit more mainstream, Like Dante
Thornton, I can say that name the

869
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:54.640
wide receiver out of or guy six
five guy because his name has been put

870
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:58.880
out there by other people where he's
a guy that Michigan State's in on.

871
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:05.760
Obviously they're gonna have with some other
but yeah, yeah, so Corty,

872
01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:10.279
you're just sitting on the right now
that you can't even say nothing about her.

873
01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:15.279
We need we can't. We can't
get Corey X out of our program.

874
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:17.560
What we need to do. This
is what we need to do to

875
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:21.359
Corey. We need we need to
We need to take Corey out for some

876
01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:28.760
drinks. That's what. And then
my sources, my sources are telling me

877
01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:36.720
because my my, my, my
grandpathy would say three people, three people

878
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:48.399
tell the truth, kids, drunks
and angry people. That's it. That

879
01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:54.439
is it, man, me,
Look, this is beautiful. We have

880
01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:58.319
to like, I mean, look, man, there's so many high school

881
01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:02.359
players we gotta we we didn't get
it has to get to like Jalen Barbara.

882
01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:09.840
We got Eric Singleton, we got
kid Russ Kanno, we got Johnson,

883
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.399
we got we have a lot of
guys, man, we have a

884
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:15.880
lot of guys that we want to
cover. Yeah that Barbara. And he's

885
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:21.279
ten three seven, one hundred meter. Whoa like he's a smaller guys.

886
01:11:24.119 --> 01:11:28.119
Yeah. He he missed most of
his junior year with an injury, and

887
01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:31.479
he's kind of come on stronger the
senior year. So one of those things

888
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:38.039
where they having the extra room in
the class kind of worked in a favor

889
01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:41.359
because they were able to kind of
mine and find some of those kids that

890
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:45.720
blew up a little bit more on
their senior year. So yeah, like

891
01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:48.239
I can he play? Does he
play both sides? Can he play corner

892
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:54.239
too? I think he's pretty much
just running back. I think he plays

893
01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:59.760
corner, but uh, five nine
is too small for Tucker there. But

894
01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:02.319
uh, but he's a guy that, like, at worst, he's gonna

895
01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:05.359
be a good punt returner if he
was to come here, because he's got

896
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:11.000
that quick, shifty thing. He's
got the thicker thighs that you want in

897
01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:19.279
a running back as Jay who would
know you know he's shifty. He's a

898
01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:25.720
guy that at worst he's gonna play
or have a shot to make an impact

899
01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:29.000
as a punt returner, which is
big. And on offense, he's a

900
01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:31.439
guy that you kind of get outside
the tackles. Maybe you line them up

901
01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:34.720
in the slot every now and then
and get creative just to get them the

902
01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:39.239
space and let that ten to three
seven speed go to work if he finds

903
01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:45.600
a crease and then Singleton the little
wide receiver, he's the same He's one

904
01:12:45.640 --> 01:12:50.479
of those quick, little slot guys
that I think Michigan State, as much

905
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:55.960
as they're doing, I think speed
is where they still need to get a

906
01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:58.680
little bit better on both sides of
the ball. Kind of get those game

907
01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:02.159
breaking speed type of guys that can
get one touch and change it. They

908
01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:06.760
sing up Barbarian are those type of
guys where where they can scoot and kind

909
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:11.600
of all they need is that one
black and and they can take it.

910
01:13:12.479 --> 01:13:15.920
So I'm seeing, you know,
Western Michigan State, Minnesota, West Virginia,

911
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:20.000
Kansas State, and what what is
it that Western Kentucky has that you

912
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:26.359
know, he's committed there, Like, what's the he's been He's been committed

913
01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:30.600
to them since the summer, So
some of those offers have come back or

914
01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:36.159
since that. Okay, realized realized
how close Douglas like Georgia is to Western

915
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:44.720
Kentucky. Like, yeah, school
where they find those little guys that can

916
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:54.720
run and the offense we's Western Kentucky
is eleven X Hilltoppers. Hilltop. Yeah,

917
01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:58.720
they almost they almost put an l
on us. Now, come on

918
01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:01.760
back when I was yeah that was
me. I ain't playing on you feel

919
01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:09.399
me? We got to school these
guys in court, but I really appreciate

920
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:13.439
your time. Many we gotta bring
you on, like, we're gonna have

921
01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:15.640
you on here like every couple of
weeks because there's a lot of stuff we

922
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:19.640
gotta figure out here, like as
far as Portal's concerned. Yeah, Court,

923
01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:25.760
you got also SI, you cannot
tell us because we're gonna push you.

924
01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:30.640
He gonna put Yeah, December twenty, the December twentieth. We gotta

925
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:32.760
figure out who. I don't know
where that date is, but we gotta

926
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:38.239
have a show that we're doing.
I think the twenty twentieth, I think

927
01:14:38.359 --> 01:14:42.119
like a Tuesday or something. I'm
thinking I'm thinking signing day is Wednesday,

928
01:14:42.119 --> 01:14:49.239
but that m M yeah, he
said Tuesday. He said, Hey,

929
01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:56.079
now twenty first is a Wednesday.
Yeah, twenty thirty day Wednesday, Okay,

930
01:14:56.920 --> 01:14:59.560
twenties this is Tuesday. So we're
gonna have you on on on the

931
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:02.439
twenty and we're gonna go we don't
let it all hang out. Then oh,

932
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:10.479
have me make on my predictions and
then yeah, flips hats changing.

933
01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:15.079
You know you got you have what's
the name Travis Henry and them the guy

934
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:20.119
from uh what the Jackson State did? The and them he's gonna go with

935
01:15:20.199 --> 01:15:29.680
Dion obviously might be there, might
not even be there. Colorado, Yo,

936
01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:34.840
he's in for he is, Yes, that too, but Cincinnati,

937
01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:41.239
Colorado. He wasn't Auburn. But
you know they don't they ain't gonna take

938
01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:46.520
it out. South Florida was in
that too, So yeah, South Florida

939
01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:49.960
State. That's why did Georgia Tech
not go after him? You put Dean

940
01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:59.560
Sanders in Atlanta. It makes no
you know why, like to get him

941
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:09.800
what Georgia coach look like the technical
school now the technical difficulties with that and

942
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:14.319
they quarterback just left anyway. Yeah, like that to me, Like,

943
01:16:14.359 --> 01:16:17.439
that's insane that they just go after
him. What's also combo package that could

944
01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:20.560
make you relevant? He's taking his
son with him, Like that's a combo

945
01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:30.399
package everybody. Yeah, yeah,
that was a big miss to me from

946
01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:34.880
the outside looking in. Let me
tell you, Corey Man, you you

947
01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:39.880
you have done a phenomenal job.
People don't really know, like how valuable

948
01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:45.000
is this guy? Like he he
knows, he knows more than people think

949
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:47.479
he knows because he's connected. He's
connected to the program, he said,

950
01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:54.560
into the players, connection to the
players parents and and if you don't know

951
01:16:55.840 --> 01:17:01.640
recruiting at its root form Star it's
not only at the coach and player level,

952
01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:06.800
but it really is at the family
level. And Corey he's family.

953
01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:12.960
He's family to us, He's family
to everybody, and that's why he is

954
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:16.479
in the know. He's not gonna
throw anybody under the bus. Neither are

955
01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:20.279
we. And we really appreciate you
coming on our show. This is sparta

956
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:25.520
to spend some time with us.
Cory, thanks a lot. You guys

957
01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:30.319
have me on any time. I'm
definitely willing, and it's good to kind

958
01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:33.159
of come on your guys show because, like I grew up in this area,

959
01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:36.199
so I watched all you guys play
at Michigan State. So to be

960
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:41.479
able to be on your show and
interact with you guys is also a good

961
01:17:41.479 --> 01:17:45.439
opportunity for me and unique to kind
of getting in this business, getting to

962
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:51.119
meet all of the players that I
grew up watching. So I heard you

963
01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:58.199
say it's a regular segment twice a
week. That's what you heard him say

964
01:17:57.159 --> 01:18:01.479
that. And by the way,
anybody was watching live, plick the thumbs

965
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:08.159
up or subscribe, do both so
we can continue bringing you. Just tell

966
01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:13.560
you and tell your mama and them
to subscribe, get to it. We

967
01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:25.920
keep bringing like Corey this one more
time, the Grand Path. I mean,

968
01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:29.720
Corey, they're convinced. They convinced
that, you know, I don't

969
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:32.359
know, I don't know what they
think. We're just talking about, just

970
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:36.119
talk about. We just talked about
the incident because that was like obviously that

971
01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:45.359
was tragedy. But it's still like
that Corey showed this this one. We

972
01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:54.760
appreciate you, Corey, absolutely,
thanks appreciate In the near future, the

973
01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:59.960
very near future, thank you,
Correy, thank you. Yeah. I

974
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:04.800
mean look real quick, you know, before we in this show, we

975
01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:10.479
can have to definitely go over the
season's house. You ever know, Caesar

976
01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:15.199
is to see the sports book man. We're gonna go to his crib man

977
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:25.319
and see how things are going.
Come on, whoo yeah, look at

978
01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:31.119
that man Ougenes minus seventeen over the
Boilerman. Let me tell you, like

979
01:19:31.319 --> 01:19:40.039
the boiler Makers are spoiler spoiler boiler
Makers, and hey, look this is

980
01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:45.079
a home game. You feel me? These these Boilermakers, they would show

981
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:48.520
up and they're showing out. It's
been a long time coming and these boys

982
01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:53.640
is ready to rock it at Lucas
Oil. It's gonna be it's gonna be

983
01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:58.239
a game that is gonna be an
expected. Oh, Michigan's coming in twelve

984
01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:00.479
and zero. But these boys,
I'm then ready to rock too, So

985
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:03.720
it's gonna be interested on Saturday.
Let's put that graphic back up there.

986
01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:08.079
Yeah, let's put it back up
there. Yeah. I'm taking them points.

987
01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:12.640
I'm taking them points seventeen, I'm
taking them points. Yeah, that's

988
01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:19.000
a lot. I'm taking the points
and I'm taking the under oh under.

989
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:28.199
But if you don't know boy to
makers, their history is upsetting top five

990
01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:32.600
teams, man, listen, all
they do. They smack last year.

991
01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:39.960
Bro, I got top five teams
last year, and I got two players

992
01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:43.279
I coached that on that produced squad. You got Gus Hartwick at the office

993
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:51.359
alignement out of Zionsville, Indiana,
and Drey Firestone Zionsville or receiver prefer walk

994
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:56.880
on. But that boy is cold
bloody too. But these boys in Indiana,

995
01:20:56.920 --> 01:21:00.560
man, West Lofayette, you're gonna
hear that boiler American to two train

996
01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:09.600
a couple of times. Drum,
drum, Oh that drum. Yeah.

997
01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:11.880
They got turf now they can use
it. Man, It's not gonna tear

998
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:17.359
up the turf. Money line yeah, this is good. What else we

999
01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:25.840
got? We got the SEC championship
game. Oh man, I'm taking I'm

1000
01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:31.600
taking straight across Georgia Bulldogs, giving
them Dogs minus seventeen and a hook.

1001
01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:38.199
Mm hmmm and oh is that right? Yes? Man. Look see these

1002
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:43.439
are the only two teams Michigan and
Georgia. They can lose this game and

1003
01:21:43.479 --> 01:21:48.000
still still yeah and still make it
now LSU had they win, they don't

1004
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:50.760
have to. They don't have no
chances get for because that that lost at

1005
01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:56.119
the end of the season. Right
yeah, they're out there, no shot,

1006
01:21:56.560 --> 01:22:00.079
no shot, so win. I
mean, they got nothing to lose.

1007
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:03.039
Man, It's I mean, obviously
a better bowl game New Year's New

1008
01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:09.199
Year's Day. But they got to
stop that quarterback man, because I seen

1009
01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:13.279
him in person. He once he
gets once he gets going, and he

1010
01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:17.439
showed it against us when we play
the Arizona State. Once he gets gone,

1011
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:21.279
he gets going. Jayden Daniels,
Yeah, yeah, boy, it's

1012
01:22:21.319 --> 01:22:26.279
gonna be It could be a problem, but Georgia they will play around you

1013
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:30.520
for that first quarter, but then
it's just bull dog you for the rest

1014
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:35.560
of the three quarters. Man from
Jade and Daniels, there's a guy,

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right there, guys. That uh
was in the transfer portal just a year

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ago, just so you guys know, and him and his lovely mother were

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01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:50.439
shopping things around and guess where he
went, goes l s U And he

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was on the cusp of getting to
the college football playoffs. Beat Alabama had

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some great wins. Man, oh
man a tenant almost Tennessee. They beat

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Florida. Yeah it's gonna be.
Let'ould be a good one for half the

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first quarter. I am about the
big twelve. Oh oh, this is

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listen, man, I'm not I'm
not sold on Kansas State, so I

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01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:27.319
think I'm gonna be. You know, I'm going with the horn Frogs,

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01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:31.600
giving them frogs. Hey, the
horn Frogs has been battle tested when we

1025
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:35.000
saw that them running on the field
with that field goal to win the game,

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because they almost lost that win and
spoiled the whole season. But yeah,

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01:23:41.079 --> 01:23:45.359
this is it always turns out if
it's an offensive battle and ain't no

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01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:51.560
defense happening. This is gonna be
a high scoring game from both both sides.

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But this could be this is where
chaos can happen. Right here.

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You talk about TCU and then the
next graphic we're going to bring up here

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which is USC USC. See see
the combined spreads on those two games is

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about six points the combined spread Utah. USC already lost in Utah. They

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01:24:18.119 --> 01:24:24.439
they've had trouble with these physical teams. And I know they have the magician

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01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:29.600
at quarterback, Kayleb Williams. We
know TCU is a is a big play

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01:24:29.640 --> 01:24:33.319
threat. They're a tough team.
But look, man, what if USC

1036
01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:41.199
and TCU lose? We got Mayhem
in college football. Let's hope for that.

1037
01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:46.840
You want to put the sweat on
the committee Hunt. I want to

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01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:51.560
make them do their job, the
job, you know. So, I

1039
01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:56.680
want to make sure when you place
your betch, please don't lose the house,

1040
01:24:57.199 --> 01:25:00.960
don't mortgage, don't don't nothing that
we wouldn't do. Be responsible.

1041
01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:05.840
Uh. You got the Clinton Tigers
in North Carolina. I feel like this

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01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:12.920
is just Clemson's gonna win this game. Yeah, Clemson will win. I

1043
01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:16.239
don't know about that. That's a
big. That's a big. I'll go

1044
01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:21.159
under. I'll take the I'll take
the under. You take the under and

1045
01:25:21.239 --> 01:25:26.840
the points. So you want North
Carolina and the under? Yeah? Okay,

1046
01:25:27.399 --> 01:25:32.720
Well we'll remind hey, look,
always do what you do in a

1047
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:39.680
responsible manner. Look, it's been
a great show, absolutely absolutely. I

1048
01:25:39.720 --> 01:25:43.399
know we ran long, but it
was some great content, great conversations.

1049
01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:48.479
Like I said, behind the curtain, people don't realize recruiting is the lifeblood

1050
01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:54.720
of everyone's program and the science,
the algorithms, everything that goes down to

1051
01:25:54.760 --> 01:25:58.439
it, to the nitty gritty to
you sign on the dotted line. It

1052
01:25:58.520 --> 01:26:01.640
is a journey and it is stressful. So we got to put some prayers

1053
01:26:01.720 --> 01:26:05.920
up to the Big Man for our
program and coach Tucker as this is where

1054
01:26:05.960 --> 01:26:12.800
he truly signs in the proster management
and recruiting. So I'm looking to see

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01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:15.359
what this is gonna be an eventful
December. It's gonna be a very eventful

1056
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:19.479
straight well our question, man,
I mean, thank you for coming on

1057
01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:23.520
the show and helping out with this
os. I mean, as you do,

1058
01:26:23.880 --> 01:26:29.600
always a phenomenal job to Chew is
now off into never never Land in

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01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:34.760
lib Area slash Buffalo slash Canada.
He's coming back. He's coming back.

1060
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:44.800
I heard everything you say. He
just had me backstagee Hey, we were

1061
01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:46.199
just handling the business as you do, your thug this little bit like,

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01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:53.600
Hey, we appreciate everybody, don't
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01:26:53.920 --> 01:26:58.479
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1064
01:26:58.479 --> 01:27:01.640
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1065
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:06.119
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1066
01:27:08.399 --> 01:27:14.600
Jay, you thank you for being
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01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:19.199
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1068
01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:26.560
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Everybody's in the background doing a lot of

1069
01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:30.199
work for us. We love that
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01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:33.399
next time, everybody, have a
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Go white.