WEBVTT 1 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:28.679 Hey everyone, it's Tuesday, November the fifteenth, twenty eleven, and you're 2 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:33.240 listening to the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm Ryan Davis, Vinny Caravella, and 3 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:38.399 I'm also Patrick Kleppick. I'm also Jeff Gershman. I'm gonna do a lot 4 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:42.560 of voices, and I've only got one more voice in my bag of tricks, 5 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:46.840 and that's Bratt Shoemaker. It's amazing how I can do multiple voices at 6 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:50.200 once. You're very good at it, thank you. It's just me. 7 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:54.240 It's just just one person in a room recording all these bits and then laying 8 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:57.119 them over people don't know, and you can do like multiple at the same 9 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:03.280 time, which I think it's really impressive. Yep, yep, three bop. 10 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:11.799 Listen this it's the best. Everybody come here and do podcast acapella. 11 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.040 But people that knows. You have puppets though, for everybody, which I 12 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:19.200 think is weird because it's the podcast, But they're just sock puppets. I 13 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:21.560 don't really put a lot of effort into them. Yeah, but you're working 14 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:23.599 all five of them at once. You're to figure that one asks and they're 15 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.760 also our socks, which I think is kind of weird. Well, how 16 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:29.680 am I supposed to make them true? If you know it's they're your socks. 17 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:32.319 Stop taking my socks? Well, I need them for the puppets. 18 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:34.599 Take care about how it's going. I don't know. This is weird. 19 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:36.879 It started weird, Is it's going weirder? It was? It was weirder 20 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:38.120 before we even start. We're gonna say, there's been a lot of weird 21 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:42.920 conversations going on. You have all that, Just put all that using our 22 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:47.200 socks. Not the weirdest part. Yeah, no, No, weird place, 23 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:51.280 absolutely not. The Internet is a weird places. Patrick Clapp keeping it 24 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:55.480 weird. I'm gonna agree with you on that, and I'm not gonna elaborate. 25 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.680 Guys, Let's talk about video games. Get off, Let's let's stop 26 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.680 talking about not video games because it seems like that's just a bad idea for 27 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.359 us. Talk about Skyrim. That's a video game. Hey, that's there, 28 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:08.479 we go, that's a nice safe topic. Yeah, there's a lot 29 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:13.800 about a lot of different angles. We haven't talked about Skyrim. We couldn't 30 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:16.719 talk about Skyrom. How do you guys feel about skyrims fucking awesome? I 31 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:22.960 still haven't played any sky should play sky. I was really as he was 32 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.599 super excited to play Skyrim. But then I just wound up watching Greg play 33 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:30.199 twelve hours of Skyrim and then let me pause for a little bit. Did 34 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.199 you watch a lot of it? Yeah? I went home to sleep and 35 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.039 then I just was like under the spell of Greg. Yeah. I couldn't 36 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.400 I couldn't look away. I didn't know what it's going to happen. It's 37 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:45.840 live. Ye, Seriously, I was just enjoying. I was enjoying all 38 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:51.400 of the highlights, people quoting things that Greg was saying. This is the 39 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:55.479 most realistic Bee I've ever seen in a video game. Yeah, we were 40 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.439 we were kind of losing because we'd hear him from the room. Yeah, 41 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:04.080 so Aslie Patrick and I would just start busting up. I'm Greg Savin. 42 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.240 I used to play twelve Hours of Oblivion and now I'm playing the new one. 43 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:13.080 I thought it was amazing. Thanks Greg for doing it again. But 44 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:15.719 yeah, I love how he could just turn it on. He just yeah, 45 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:17.520 he's just he's got there was anything to turn on or off there that 46 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:22.719 was just like, it's basically like he embodied everything that I want, which 47 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:24.879 was why he was so engaging, because he's like I'm just exploring, figuring 48 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:29.000 this stuff out. But he's able to monologue through the entire thing and starts 49 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:31.560 talking to the characters and kind of like goading them on, like do younta 50 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:37.000 bring that? You got that all? You're dead? It's dead, which 51 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:38.439 I was was great. It makes me wonder if he just does that when 52 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:43.520 he played That's that's my question. Does he just have this dialogue going in 53 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:46.439 his head or out loud? I don't know, but it was great. 54 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:49.919 My wife watched the whole thing too, Did he really? My mom? 55 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:53.360 My mom watched a bunch of it. He's an enrapturing man. It's just 56 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:58.400 it's it takes a certain skill set to do a monologue, a twelve hour 57 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.560 monologue less alongside the game like that. So a lot of stuff in that 58 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:06.199 game to riff on, Yeah, that game. The game is replete with 59 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:10.800 things. It sounds like no one has seen everything yet. I think that's 60 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:15.120 impossible. Like I'm at the point twenty five hours in like where like I 61 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:16.560 kept thinking, well, I should I should just guide back the story because 62 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:20.279 I'm feeling overwhelmed, Like I'm looking at my quests. I have like fifteen 63 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:24.959 normal active quests, but I don't even want to look at my miscellaneous because 64 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:29.319 like that that's just terrifying. There's like forty miscellaneous quests just sitting in that 65 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.160 pile, and so I am kind of just refocusing on the story. I'm 66 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:33.920 like, I feel like if I just get that out of the way, 67 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:36.879 like this pressure will get off my shoulder, like where I can just kind 68 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:41.839 of do whatever, like there's not less impetus to go forward doing things. 69 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:45.160 I spent the statistic out on the quick look, but nine capital cities in 70 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:47.240 the game. Yeah, I put in sixty hours. I finished the storyline, 71 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.399 I did all these guilds and stuff. Still haven't even gone into one 72 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:57.439 of those cities to it anything in it, which one is that it's in 73 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:00.800 the extreme north north. There's a museum there. So you guys are really 74 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.120 enjoying It's fantasticism. Yeah, I thought I was. I thought I was 75 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:06.079 tired of these types of games after Fall three and fought in the Vegas. 76 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:10.279 But but they did it so much better. It's it's so much better Like 77 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:12.879 this, This feels like the game they've been trying to make for the last 78 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:15.920 like ten years, and they finally got it right. Like in terms of 79 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:18.560 just like scope or everything. Yeah, like quality of content, breadth of 80 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:25.600 content, like different mechanical systems meshing together properly. Just it all just came 81 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.680 together fuinnally like even even kind of technical polish, like it's not perfect, 82 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:30.639 but it's a lot better than they've done before. Yeah, there's some some 83 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:35.160 crazy things here and there. I fell through the world. Yeah you weren't 84 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:39.000 you weren't that bear? I was not? Yeah, I was actually saber 85 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:44.839 the saber Cat. That's it sure looked like a bear. Hearing about this 86 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:48.600 bear encounter, people going much about giants. Giants in this game when if 87 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.480 they hit you with a direct hit, yeah, like over the head, 88 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:56.839 I have to imagine maybe it's they should be jumping up for an air combo. 89 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:58.519 At the end of the time, I feel like it's had to been 90 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:00.600 one of those like glitches in the game, and they were just like, 91 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.519 this is too fucking cool, like because it totally doesn't mesh really, like 92 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:06.759 as as regular as that game gets and it's got magic and stuff, to 93 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:14.560 just see a saber cat spiral thousands of feet into the air spontaneously after one 94 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:16.879 swing. She's on the other side of the world. That'll happen to you 95 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:20.319 too. Ye. Yes, you'll see yourself shooting, but you don't survive, 96 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:24.759 right, you are dead one too. If you see yourself from the 97 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:28.319 third person you air, you already go already. I wish they'd let you 98 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.079 fall. Yeah, And I wish I wish. I wish there was a 99 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.360 kill cam for that that saber cat, Like, I want to see where 100 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:36.720 he ends. I wonder if it's just it's traveling too far too fast for 101 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:41.439 them to like stream in the world. Totally possible, but something tells me 102 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:43.759 a matter is going to figure that out. Well can you ever? Can 103 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:46.920 you wonder what the ceiling of that world is? It's pretty high? Yeah, 104 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.319 yeah, those mountains. I mean the map is them rendering the terrain 105 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:55.360 from like a super high distance, Okay, but I wonder to basically show 106 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:58.360 the entire world At one time I realized that with with the map thing, 107 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:01.120 but I wonder, like what the actual physical ceiling on the world is. 108 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.759 I mean, it realized there's huge mountains and stuff. But so if they 109 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.240 hit that sabercat, can you go to the map and see it, like 110 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:16.399 come near the camera as it as it is. That would be so you 111 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:19.480 can never get strong enough to do that too bad guys, right, Okay, 112 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:23.519 that is giant strength. That sounds like a deal. C Perk, 113 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:26.639 just say, let's wait for the matters. Yeah, you need to see 114 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.240 the run kind of does that also a couple of weird physics things where all 115 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.720 of a sudden I was in the air my car and or their giants. 116 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:38.519 No, there's no there's no magic in that game in all sorts of ways. 117 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:43.279 It sounds like magic because it sounds like there is no magic in it. 118 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:46.800 Yeah, man, as much as people seem to enjoy the ridiculou stuff 119 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:47.959 that happened in that quick look, yeah, I wish that we hadn't been 120 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:54.079 rolling on the thing that I did on Friday. Yep, you're Brady Gedding. 121 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:59.399 You're I mean, tiny spoiler about an ability you get by finishing the 122 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:01.360 game. If you really don't want to hear about it, turning this off, 123 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:05.800 it's spoiled elsewhere. Okay, it's not a big shout that. In 124 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:07.439 fact, you get a bunch of decent shouts by finishing the main stories, 125 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:09.680 which is kind of what I've heard is finished that so that you can kind 126 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:13.199 of have everything you're supposed to. I mean, it's it's great the way 127 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:16.439 to handle that thing, because the main quest line just ends like no credits, 128 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:20.360 no ending. I mean, events play out based on the end of 129 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.839 that quest, but you're you're moving around in it. You know, it's 130 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.560 not like you're in some like Fallout esque like stitched cut scene orth And we 131 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:28.639 always had the worry that maybe there wouldn't be dragons because if you haven't, 132 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.200 if you don't have enough shouts, then you are dragon souls. You can't 133 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.960 assign that's all the shouts. But that's not an issue. You can still 134 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.840 max everything out there. There are some kind of subtle ways that the world 135 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.519 changes after after you finish the story, but like you're you're still free to 136 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:45.879 roam. The dragons are still everywhere, Like it's still the same game anyway. 137 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:48.039 So like you get some you get some good stuff by finishing it. 138 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:52.960 But one of the shouts you get Summon's a dragon for you to fight stuff 139 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:56.679 a companion, which is awesome. Yeah, so turns into a buddy Buddy 140 00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:01.159 Middle Earth cop film. How to this go down? I went to I 141 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:05.159 went to a giant camp and there happened to be a dragon circling nearby. 142 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:07.200 So I shot the dragon with an arrow to aggro it. Now, everything 143 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:11.120 that I've I've heard about this game is do not fuck with giants. Uh 144 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:15.840 yeah, dragons are scarier than or the giants is scarier than the dragon. 145 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.360 That's what I hear. I hear, I hear. The giants will end 146 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.159 you more quickly. Dragon dragon Dragons have a rare one hit kill that kind 147 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:24.240 of sucks. Yeah, giants had Giants have a very frequent way kill, 148 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.559 but dragons like to fly around in a circle a lot and and have their 149 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.159 kind of set attack patterns which gives you plenty of time to heal up or 150 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:33.399 or you know, kind of kind of deal with the dragon. But also 151 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:37.720 like the if if you don't mess with the giants, they're pretty dossile, 152 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.200 right, the giants or mants? Is that right? They heard? Well, 153 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.320 Brad, it sounds like you were setting up the tests for this because 154 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:48.480 because I saw the results of what happened was basically like, let's let's test 155 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.559 the boundaries of the sandbox. So and also could you even spawn didn't know 156 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.000 what was gonna happen. So I attacked the dragon, like right next to 157 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.279 this a giant camp and the dragon comes over and I'm like, all right, 158 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.440 time to call my dragon in. So Dragon shows up and there's all 159 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:05.000 of a sudden, like a dragon dog fight going on overhead. Uh, 160 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.960 And I think in the middute they're flying around in the air fight each other, 161 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.120 like shooting fire at each other. And I'm having a little bit of 162 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:13.919 a tough times. Look a little weird. They're trying to attract each other. 163 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.440 There are the limits of how dragons behaved. They were doing damage because 164 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:20.320 it's got like these set animation patterns, so it can only kind of do 165 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.440 so much. But it was when it got weird that it got. Yeah, 166 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:26.279 it was like, let's fight some giants to this dragon party. So 167 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:30.440 it right over and just like whacked a giant in the knee and he rolled 168 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:33.320 in, and somehow they all started fighting each other. I don't dragon on 169 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.759 dragon on giant. And then and then mammoth got involved because the mammoth was 170 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:39.639 just there, uh, and he got hit with fire. They were all 171 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:41.840 fighting each other basically. Yeah, Like I was just kind of at some 172 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:43.759 point, I was just stepping back and watching this stuff. And then I 173 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:48.120 had another shout that you get towards the end that someone's like a spectral warrior 174 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.320 from Sovereign Guard, right, which is like the afterlife, like the Viking 175 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.639 afterlife or whatever. So like all of a sudden, this this like eight 176 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.440 foot tall glowing warrior appears and he's got the shout, he's got the what's 177 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.600 it called unrunning force, the like for pushing. Yeah, so he appears 178 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.279 and immediately does that on the giant and sends the giant flying like fifty feet 179 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.200 and the dragons are still over here killing each other, and the mammoth is 180 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:11.519 like bucking his tusks around all over the place, but just completely went as 181 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:16.120 I remember, the giant killed the dragon, Yeah, the giant. Yeah, 182 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:18.279 the giant I think killed the bad dragon. Yeah, killed one of 183 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:20.639 the dragons, and then you're my good dragon I think killed the mammoth, 184 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.360 which actually like the corpse of the mammoth hit the corpse of the dragon and 185 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.799 like turned into this big pile. Uh. It was intense, man, 186 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.600 just the dragged all mess. It was so Yeah, it was so insane 187 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.039 somebing that warrior and immediately having him shout the giant like like the length of 188 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.440 a field. That was like that was the moment I feel like the meaningful 189 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:45.240 like dynamic random things like that happening. Is it was kind of missing from 190 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:48.120 the previous Bethesda open world. Yeah, like you you would occasionally run into 191 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:52.039 like I don't know, like a goblin fighting some villagers, or you know, 192 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:56.799 it would just be random skirmishes in the desert or in the in the 193 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:58.679 wastelands or I didn't play bliving, but it was nothing that. It was 194 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:03.279 nothing on the level of like a Red Dead Redemption where they're they had a 195 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.519 certain number of scripted sequences that could kind of play out randomly in the world. 196 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:07.879 It was just like, all right, here's some guys fighting, do 197 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:11.720 you want to go fight with them? Especially with Vats, it was a 198 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.519 lot more controlled because you were just really nice to not use VATS. I 199 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.360 don't like that system at all anymore, and I like that it just doesn't 200 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.519 make sense for for Skyrim. I just it's just got bored. Yeah, 201 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.679 the combat is just like remains. I mean, I'm twenty five, don't 202 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:28.519 know how you're feeling at it. Like I've been wondering if this runs into 203 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:33.000 the Bethesda problem of like you become all powerful and thus combat becomes boring. 204 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.240 I's a little more at that point than than I would have definitely gotten easier. 205 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:37.799 It'll die as much. Yeah, but there's still tough enemies out there. 206 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.240 I mean, and you have so many options that you know, it's 207 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.559 not like Fault where it's it's kind of like, uh, here's different guns. 208 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.360 You know, it's an energy weapon or a machine. Like. There's 209 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:50.360 way more variety and how you can approach you situation, I think, And 210 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:54.600 in Skyrim then you couldn't fall out. I think I tell a fray to 211 00:12:54.679 --> 00:13:00.840 dragon. I fast traveled and when I appeared, there was a dragon corpse 212 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:05.559 kind of sort of inside me, sort of not And as soon as I 213 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:07.799 landed, I absorbed its soul. It was just like free dragon soul. 214 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:11.720 Here you go and all the bones and scales and all that other stuff that 215 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:15.919 comes with it. It's like great and awesome. Can unlock this? This? 216 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.960 Uh disarmed dude's shout or whatever? Is there a level cap? It 217 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:24.320 sounds like it's around eighty. Okay, what were you when you finish? 218 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.960 I'm about I think I'm thirty one right now. And I think they said 219 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:31.639 that like the ramp gets really steep post fifty is that what it is? 220 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:35.879 No? The thing about fifty is the enemies I think stop increasing or fifty 221 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:37.440 is like where you're going to see the hardest dragons and stuff. Do you 222 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.559 think do you think you would be able to gain enough levels to fill out 223 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:46.919 a majority of the trees if you definitely not okay, like a good number 224 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:48.279 of perks, Yeah, but can't you're talking about maxing, No, you 225 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:52.399 can't. If you're talking about maxing out entire trees, you're not going to 226 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.519 be doing that many. There's enough, there's enough that you can respect your 227 00:13:54.600 --> 00:14:00.799 character essentially, probably kind of twice throughout the game if if you really like, 228 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.039 they give you enough points that you can experiment down a path, realize 229 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:07.360 at like I think all three of us started with heavy armor and then realize 230 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:09.399 we all want to be light armor. And it's even though you can't take 231 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:15.000 those points away, there's there's plenty that you're not gonna you can screw up. 232 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.480 And I made the switch before spending any points on heavy armor. So 233 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.879 yeah, I'm just wondering, like if you beat it, you know, 234 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:22.919 and you're kind of like a two handed or one handed guy, and then 235 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:24.559 you're like, I want to try magic out you think there are enough points 236 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.279 and just kind of tool around it. Definitely. And actually, I mean, 237 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:31.360 I think it's one of the less overt triumphs of this game is that 238 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:35.399 they finally got this like hybridized class system totally working. So like you're go 239 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.559 into the game, there's no tutorials, but like, here's how you use 240 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:39.960 magic and increase your magic skills, and here's what you should do if you 241 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.519 want to use two handed stuff, Like you just use the stuff and well, 242 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.519 yeah, I mean it's really evident how you equip spells and like when 243 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:48.879 you should use them and stuff. It's all really intuitive. But your skills 244 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.519 just go up as you use that stuff. You know, it's totally transparent. 245 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:54.000 And then if you want to specialize, you just start putting all your 246 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:58.399 perks into like two or three categories. How do you move up? Shouts? 247 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.879 You find they're basically there are three levels for each shout, it seems 248 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:05.679 like, and you get the dragon souls, you get the dragon souls, 249 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:09.720 you have to find the words, and then once you find the words, 250 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:13.120 you have to spend dragon souls to unlock each individual word. Okay, so 251 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:15.600 you get a soul from killing a dragon and you find the shouts, just 252 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.080 okay, And that's hanging out in the world and all that stuff is regardless 253 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:22.679 of if you're use magic. Yeah, that's totally sufferings. And that's like 254 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:26.159 and it's nice because even a lot of those shouts are hidden in side quests. 255 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.000 At a lot of them are completely non essential but like tied into the 256 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.440 fiction in some really cool ways. Yeah, but so you won't come across 257 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:35.320 all of them unless you're engaging in the side stuff them out like that's a 258 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.960 yeah. Yeah, the breadth of the fiction is just staggering, like the 259 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.840 like the there are a bunch of the shouts are guarded by these eight dragon 260 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:46.240 Priests. The only reason I knew they existed is because they're in one of 261 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.240 the loading screens and it's like, got this like little tool tip that's like 262 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:52.679 telling the legend of the dragon priests that worship the dragons like three thousand years 263 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:54.039 ago or whatever. And then all of a sudden, I fought one that 264 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.679 I just found like out of nowhere, and A they dropped really great loot, 265 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:00.480 but B it's like, wow, that was part of the lore, 266 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:02.200 and all of a sudden, no, it's like right here in my face 267 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:06.399 and I'm actually fighting in like this so much depth, how much time you 268 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:11.080 spend just wandering, uh or were you mostly on objective most of it? 269 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:15.879 Yeah? Probably not. It's hard not to take a little a little like, 270 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:19.360 hey, you're near an undiscovered location. Markers like those things are so 271 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:22.320 distracting, Like I can't not go after those want to see them. It's 272 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:25.559 especially if there's loot inside. Yeah, but like, yeah, there's so 273 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:27.559 much good stuff to do with all those locations. It's even better than fallouts 274 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:32.759 because they're just like they're accurately marked for what they are too, So you 275 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:34.639 can also so instead of just being like little green arrows, like, well, 276 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:37.360 something's over there, it's like you know, if that's a town or 277 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:41.919 if that's what are those keystones? Those are what are those things called stones? 278 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:45.240 Standing stones? It will it will tell you you can almost filter out 279 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:47.559 the things you I don't care about going to track that down. I'll go 280 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:49.679 look at it later about towns or care about towns. You can care about 281 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.559 a different cave that you can go loot like, it'll mark those. You 282 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.320 can kind of like differentiate between what you want to go after. It sounds 283 00:16:56.320 --> 00:17:00.399 like it's incredibly rewarding to the player. You do stuff, you get rewarded 284 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:03.240 I think I was gonna say about the skill system is that I am in 285 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:06.400 the midst of my second like class change right now. Like I started out 286 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:07.920 going one handed and magic in the offhand, and then like at some point 287 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.960 I stopped messing with magic uh and switched over to shield for offhand because there's 288 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:17.039 actually some finesse involved in like blocking and shield bashing at the right time stuff 289 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.279 like that. And I've been sneaking more lately, so like I'm starting to 290 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:23.079 put points into the sneak and archery and archery man archery, archery. I've 291 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.359 been pretty awesome. I've been pushing that early. I was the first one 292 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:27.799 to go into that. But it's it's so it's still reward. It's not 293 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:33.319 the best shooting system, but man, you can you people once you get 294 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:36.640 Once you get that lets you zoom when you're shooting an arrow, and like 295 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:40.759 sneak attacks basically start one shotting guys, yeah, because you get twight two 296 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.039 times damage and then with the zoom, especially if you have like I have 297 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:47.640 a bow that does like fifteen points of fire damage for every shot. It's 298 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:49.880 like, so not only do they get hit for two damage, but then 299 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:56.279 they are screaming and flay like a fire during the entire time. Patrick, 300 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:59.559 what's your current build look like? Uh? I think we all because the 301 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:03.319 game kind of starts you out as one handed magic and then uh, one 302 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:07.400 hand with like a mace. They make that seem like a really good idea 303 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.599 because because because they because that gives you a breath of options, like you 304 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:12.119 can mess with both. Rather than saying, like, you know, I 305 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.119 mean Greg basically off the from the start. I think just ditched it and 306 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.279 went to a two handed weapon, like he just he knew what he would 307 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:19.240 bild. He one unce he was playing the Orc, which has like the 308 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:26.359 Perserver rage ability. He was just completely busting skulls so objects destroy instrument of 309 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.400 destruction. It takes so long to hit that power at tech with the double 310 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.119 but I imagine when it connects, we would destroy. He was bowing guys 311 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:37.119 there, Yeah for sure. Yeah. Like people kept saying like, oh, 312 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:40.200 he's playing on the easy difficulty, Like no, he wasn't. And 313 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:47.319 he was indiscriminate there. He was killing MPCs and everybody did anything that was 314 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:51.400 moving. I think he tried to kill a kid, but I'm not joking. 315 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:55.599 Saw him sneaking up on a kid. I decided to go away. 316 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:59.839 I didn't want to see the outcome of that. But the skill system is 317 00:18:59.880 --> 00:19:04.160 so well balanced that, like you can kind of dabble in everything and get 318 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:07.039 kind of pretty good at a lot of things. But if you if you 319 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:10.400 really want to drill down and focus on like two or three things, you 320 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:14.200 become insanely powerful in those In those two or three things. What's the horse 321 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:18.440 situation? You can buy a horse and then you lose it if you get 322 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.319 off of it, and like it'll just reappear anytime you fast travel, Like 323 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:26.279 it'll just be nearby. It can die, definitely die. I read that 324 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:30.039 it'll be at a stable if you if you lose it, get back to 325 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:32.640 the stable, it'll it'll be hanging out. But you can steal a horse 326 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:37.359 if you want. Yeah, yeah, is it not consequential if you it's 327 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:41.319 like stealing anything else, somebody sees you do it, Okay. Is it 328 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:44.599 cheaper to pay the fine for stealing a horse than it is to just you 329 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:48.839 lose the horse? I think if you stolen stuff, because it becomes yours, 330 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:52.559 Like you know, Vinnie's horse, you really want to get just find 331 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:56.119 a single guy in the wild riding horse and kill him. Yeah, and 332 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:00.720 then take the horse. The horse would see you. Yeah, did the 333 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:03.359 crimes report if they if they don't see like the horses. No, I 334 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.519 don't know if the horse capable of reporting crimes, but apparently chickens are certainly 335 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:11.960 those are too. I saw someone they need the chickens thing. I choke 336 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:14.880 that out, but like, yeah, so you'll you'll come across like a 337 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.440 random group of people, and if you start attacking them, it'll say, 338 00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:19.200 well, not ransoms on your head. But if you managed to kill the 339 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.400 guy who had spotted you, then it'll just say your ransom has been clear. 340 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:26.160 Nice. So as long as you as long as you track down all 341 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.680 those witnesses, witnesses, you're cool. Or you just put pots on everyone's 342 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:34.079 heads and steal all their stuff. Yeah, that could do that. Apparently, 343 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:38.119 apparently I've seen YouTube videos of people just grabbing pots and line of sight. 344 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.880 Yeah, putting it on an NPC's head, it breaks line of sight. 345 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:44.640 So then the other you don't mind the pot on their head. Apparently 346 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:49.359 they don't care. That doesn't that doesn't bother them. Yeah, it's cool. 347 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:52.759 So it's kind of like a hat. You can also it's just line 348 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:55.720 of sight. You can also like physically drag an object just around a corner 349 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.160 and then put it in your inventory. That doesn't count ride up to the 350 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:04.960 dude on his own horse after we have stolen it. That's doubtful. I 351 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:10.519 think that's doubtful. Oh, it sounds like there is a lot to do, 352 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:12.920 dude. Yeah, we've barely even talked about anything that's in this game. 353 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:15.200 Like if you look at that, if you just like look at Howard's 354 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.240 map, I mean, just christ that's there's still plenty of stuff. I 355 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:22.440 have plenty of Like every time I go to like any spot on the map 356 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:25.759 that's kind of empty, there's still like another eight locations. I haven't discovered 357 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:30.119 anything. Like two months months until the DLC starts rolling. They said it's 358 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.440 gonna be a little while. They started working on it. They've sketched out 359 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:37.119 some ideas, but Todd Howard was telling Wired, I think that they're gonna 360 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:38.400 wait till after it's out. They're gonna go through the holidays, and then 361 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.039 they'll go into production afterwards. They kind of want to two people respond to 362 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.240 it. Seriously, looks like you could take like two hundred hours to see 363 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:47.960 everything. Yeah, plus they bought themselves time in the main game, Like 364 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.079 I did every crazy everything in Fall three and probably seventy five hours, but 365 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:56.759 it would take you easily double that too. Is there a completion ticker? 366 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:00.680 Pretty detailed stat screen. There's a lot of different quest lines. There's like, 367 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:03.160 you know, there's Thieves, Gild, Dark Brotherhood, there's equivalence of 368 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.480 like the Majors and Fighters Skills. An overall game completion there's no there's no 369 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:11.640 single statistic. It's it's all like, how many quests for each of these 370 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:14.359 factions have you done? How many main story quests? I've been doing Thieves 371 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:17.480 Gild stuff. It's getting real good. Yeah. Did you say you've got 372 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:19.720 some really good gear out of that too? Yeah? I mean the armor 373 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:27.599 is like, the armored gives you thirty points of carry. The gloves help 374 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:32.920 with lock picking, the boots help with sneak. How far down to that 375 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:34.480 did you have to go? Because I'm at the point whereions where I couldn't 376 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:37.880 do that right now. Even even just joining the Thieves Gild gives you a 377 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:42.880 really good set. So you're a pretty sneaky dude. I've become relatively sneaky. 378 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:49.000 Yeah, But I'm kind I'm kind of capable of doing whatever. I 379 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:52.079 was heavy on destruction magic for a while. But but like like Brad was 380 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:56.799 saying, I've been using the shield more frequently. Oh really, you're actually 381 00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:59.359 getting into that. Yeah, did you get the I started doing some archery 382 00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:00.799 too. I killed Dragon with it and went like, all right, maybe 383 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.039 this is did you did you get the shield perk that slows down time when 384 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:08.759 the night how HiT's fucking awesome, completely changes the combat dynamics When you get 385 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:11.200 that, might have might have to give that a shot because because if they're 386 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.519 slowed down, you have time to bash them out of their attack, basically 387 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:18.559 cancel their attacks before they can hit you. The reason I liked in the 388 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:22.000 light armor arouse because then you start getting enough spells like stone Flash that essentially 389 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:26.359 turns your light armor into heavy armor for combat situations. Put it put your 390 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:30.720 armor up sixty points for sixty seconds, and which is more than what you 391 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.480 need to get through any sort of decent combat scenario that you would have wanted 392 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:36.720 that heavy armor, and you get to keep your stam in a boost. 393 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:37.759 Plus. I mean, if you're dumping a lot of perks in the light 394 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.000 armor, then your light armor is like thicker than heavy armor at the point 395 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.640 anyway, Yeah, you just have to go pretty deep down there. You 396 00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:48.039 can get glass armory. I have a glass mace right, and have a 397 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.000 glass helmet. I love glass armor, have a glass bow. I think, 398 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:56.640 how's this stuff look good? Yeah? Good? That's PC look good? 399 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:00.920 Good? Yeah. I thought about switching here. You gotta put intoteen 400 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.279 hours on three sixteen, and I was like, oh man, I should 401 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:06.960 just get the PC version and then I could, you know, mess around 402 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:08.359 some mods or something like that. But I was like, I've already gone 403 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.759 so deep here. That's kind of how I feel. But I hear even 404 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:17.680 the PC version though, that controller it's the best way to play send interfaces. 405 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:19.279 Yeah. Like it's kind of kind of mixed reactions to the PC of 406 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:22.279 UI like it. I think it works pretty well, but it's very clear. 407 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:25.559 I mean, it's the same UI. They didn't really change much, 408 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:30.200 so it's clearly designed around a controller. But I think it works pretty good. 409 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:34.519 Mods are forthcoming. I'm sure there's a bunch that are already stuff. 410 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.960 Oh you stup now, Yeah, there's a bunch of hack mods and be 411 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.839 as I said, like, the official stuff's coming but I think I think 412 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:44.559 we're gonna get a couple patches before we get community. Like the dartified UI 413 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:47.799 guy, it's always out there, like a week after bethesta game comes out 414 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:51.240 with a new UI, but I don't know what he's up to. Yeah, 415 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:55.200 they community's hardcore. Whatever you're upset about, some someone will address that 416 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.880 in the next couple of months. Fucking response to this game, though, 417 00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:02.200 is insane, Like, yeah, I don't think I've ever seen such a 418 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:07.240 unified, like positive reaction to the single game where everyone playing a game at 419 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:10.119 once. That just doesn't happen as well because it happens, you know, 420 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.079 you think. I think back to like Modern Warfare two, like Launch Day 421 00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:15.880 for that. You look at your friends list, it's just just everyone down 422 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.160 playing it. Uh, And it didn't happen with Modern Warfare three. Yeah, 423 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:23.559 but Skyrim seems like I have more people on my friends list that have 424 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.480 played Skyrim than have played three. Yeah. I looked last night and it 425 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.319 was like eighty percent of the twenty something people that were online on my list, 426 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.279 we're playing playing skyro Well know how they look at that like versus Rage 427 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:37.079 and they're just like, man, what did you like? What was the 428 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:41.680 thing. The response to rage was pretty decided negative tepid to negative, depending 429 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:45.480 on where you go. But like I see I see people in some of 430 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:51.359 the most crotchety, stubborn, like PC oriented communities on the Internet saying stuff 431 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:52.799 like this is the best game I've ever played, or I like this better 432 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:57.599 than Moral Wind, like it's it's it's intense. I can't wait to get 433 00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:00.960 into it. You should. How's the main story. It's good. So 434 00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:07.440 it's definitely not just closing oupliving gates. I didn't even do that for for 435 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:10.759 reference. I didn't. I played like two quests of the Oblivion storyline and 436 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:15.079 stopped and this this is varied and pretty compelling. Did they have a reference 437 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.480 any of that stuff? Does seem to come out? Oh yeah, a 438 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:19.880 little bit. Yeah, there's there's books and stuff, because a lot of 439 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:23.720 times that was one of the things I had forgotten when this came out, 440 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:27.039 was that like it's not like, you know, five years after or something 441 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.799 like, this is the fourth asically a different era of the world. Yeah, 442 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.880 like like like empires have practically risen and fallen in the time since Oblivion. 443 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:38.359 Their lizard men, Yeah, they're still there. It's also cat people 444 00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:41.559 not very nice. Those men are always dicks to me. It's cold, 445 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:48.839 that's true, that's true. They're probably they're probably this sucks lizard man, 446 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:51.319 I would say. I would say the cat people are the bigger dicks. 447 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.839 Personally, you must say. Just feel bad for the Elves. Else don't 448 00:26:53.880 --> 00:27:00.920 have some of the Elves or ship heads. But there are persic the Hiles. 449 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.759 Well, no, the Hiles are the ones with the dominions. Yeah, 450 00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.119 there's so there's all of the film wars, like the ruling body of 451 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:11.519 the Auld Married Dominion. So much fucking fiction in this game. But yeah, 452 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.400 so there's like power struggle going on between the Nords and the high Elves. 453 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:19.599 But then the Nords look down on the dark Elves. I think, 454 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:23.400 yeah, they're they're can find two, Yeah, they're can find the gray 455 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:30.160 Quarters and just be like the slums of the Northeast. I forget yeah, 456 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:33.799 wind how it's in the northeast, right, right, But there's also a 457 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.400 civil war going on between the indigenous Nords and the imperials from the Southern province 458 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.119 who are trying to subjugate them, and there is there is no clear you 459 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.599 know, actually support this side. There are arguments to be made for why 460 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.200 every side sucks. But there's a whole dual quest line associated with the Civil 461 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.920 War because you can pick aside and join it and then go through all these 462 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:55.079 quests like capturing cities and fortresses and stuff. But yeah, like who do 463 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.599 you join? Because they're all dicks, Like nobody nobody's hands are clean in 464 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:06.799 that in that conflict. Gonna say dragon Age persecuted elves, Whicher persecuted elves 465 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:14.640 because because the one designers love racism, they just can't stand like actual racism 466 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:17.640 with his fantasy elves. It's like, oh, it's okay to do that. 467 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.119 How the elves have fallen? But everyone wants to take elves down a 468 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:26.200 peg, That's what I'm saying themselves in this game. We're asking for it. 469 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:32.200 They yeah, well, high elves are always i mean usual, usually 470 00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:36.960 hypes, wrong, wrong side of history, high elve types. I mean, 471 00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:38.640 they're really asking for it, to eat, eating in our ends and 472 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.599 sleep sleeping with our women. That's separate but equal, that's all that's I 473 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:48.720 can't I can't believe those elves. Did you hear that Perry was hanging out 474 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.000 with an elf? You elves breaking? If only there was a message war, 475 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:57.759 but we could all talk about those like minded people. Finally there were 476 00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:06.559 eighty four elves live. If the racism isn't doing it for you, there's 477 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:10.960 a some good old fashioned religious persecution as well, right, fantastic or the 478 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.759 Talos stuff, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's stuff's handled really well. 479 00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.880 It's interesting. There is like a complicated, like weave of social dynamics going 480 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.880 on, like this god that's been sponged from history even though because he was 481 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:26.880 he is like began life as immortal. That's part of the treaty, right, 482 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.480 Yeah, the treaty was that you expunged the white gold concord it. 483 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:36.079 Yeah. Yeah, So there were eight gods, but then the emperor that 484 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.960 like united all the provinces like three thousand years ago, tiber Septim. Tiber 485 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:45.319 Septim became deified Talos, yes, and like was renamed Talos, and it's 486 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:47.599 also as worshiped as the ninth god, I guess, like a pope. 487 00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:49.680 So that's why they say like by the nine in a lot of cases. 488 00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:53.400 But then you encounter other people that say by the eight because the elves don't 489 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.519 like it that one of the gods god Pierce. Yeah, like, the 490 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.240 Elves really hate it that one of the gods is a human manufactured because yeah, 491 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:04.880 because the Elves consider themselves like descended from from godhood. They're the chosen 492 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:08.920 people, right and humans are. So the Civil War is actually based a 493 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.839 lot of a lot of it is based around that specific to the Nords really 494 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:18.480 worship Talos hardcore, and and the Imperials don't want them to. And the 495 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.839 imperial has signed the White Gold kind of chord it with the Elves say, 496 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:26.799 it's cool that outlaw talos worship as one of the terms of the peace treaty. 497 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:32.119 Outlaws worship on the outlaws have talots exactly. Yeah, So now the 498 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:36.720 Nords are fighting the Imperials over that issue. The Imperials are the US, 499 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:44.559 the Elves are Israel, and the Nords are Palestine. Palestine. Yeah, 500 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.240 exactly right. But you figured it all out one to one to one race 501 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.960 field back that one layer. It's all right there. Read between the lines, 502 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:57.119 Read between the lines. It takes a while to wrap your head around 503 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.519 all that fiction. It's very overwhelming it first, because you don't like, 504 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.599 especially if you never played like really deep into an Elder Schools game before, 505 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.119 Like all the names but like what's it's just given time, Like eventually you'll 506 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.279 start to connect the dots because you'll spend so much time in that world that 507 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:12.799 you can't help but put it all together. Like like I hope, I 508 00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:17.200 hope we didn't just undersell the story by like laying it all out there like 509 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:21.160 that. But after dozens of hours of absorbing, absorbing that stuff through osmosis, 510 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:23.240 like you start to like feel like you really you know, I mean 511 00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:29.319 complicated. I love like Mass Effect. I think has brilliant fiction in a 512 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.279 in a sci fi setting, and they go deep in that similar way of 513 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:38.400 establishing these these relationships that go so far back of like well these you know, 514 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.960 this is an alien race that's been you know, traveling through space with 515 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:45.559 this other alien race for like ten thousand years, so they have all this 516 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.200 backstory even if humans just recently got into the mix. You know, there 517 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.559 are these other kind of factors at play, and the Dwarves are long gone, 518 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.799 right the Dwarmer Yeah, yeah, I guess, I guess they were 519 00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.640 in moral wind. Yeah they had awesome arm But even even though they are 520 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.839 just it turns out really turns out they are elves who have everyone who who's 521 00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:07.400 not human is just an elf? Practically? Yeah, I guess actually, 522 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:13.720 yeah, yeah they are are they have an offshoot of the high Elf. 523 00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.880 I have a side quest to collect blood samples from every type of the Elf, 524 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:22.359 and and the list is like Orcs and Hiles and dark elves and all 525 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:27.200 the same. Man. Yeah, they're human, you're any part elf. 526 00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.839 There's there's lots of different kinds of here that makes you now different kinds of 527 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.799 elves, and then the cat people and the closer people. Do you have 528 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.160 Do I have enough Elf in me that I can go live on an elf 529 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.480 reservation? What was your great grandfather? Everything? Elf? Here's a quarter 530 00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.920 Elf? No, then you're done? Sixty four? Yeah? Elf? 531 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:46.200 Yeah, yeah, you can live there. Okay, great, Yeah, 532 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:49.400 but you can't sell cigarettes? Hey, Elf, you want to hang out 533 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:53.319 of these blankets for me along? Get that tax break, that Skyrim tax 534 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:58.599 break if you're if you're roll an elf, you don't have to pay it. 535 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.759 Sounds good? Yeah, I don't have to pay tax on stuff. 536 00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:05.160 You can open your own casinos wherever you want. Elves have it hard, 537 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.279 huh, some of them? Yeah yeah, yeah, specific elves, especially 538 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:13.079 if you're going around killing them all. I think this game does a lot 539 00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.160 better job than mass Fact of of presenting the fiction like inline with the world, 540 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:20.000 as opposed to like the mass fect just has a codex, Right, 541 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.039 yeah, sit there in a codex, reading like menu entries. True. 542 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:27.839 Uh, this it's all. It's all contextual conversations between there's a certain amount 543 00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.599 of books, there's a certain amount that happens contextually in conversations, and you 544 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.279 do get some of that, and then you know, there's still I think 545 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.559 you know, like he talks a lot of you know, like deals with 546 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:39.799 kind of the past history of some of the masters, but the details of 547 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.480 that stuff you wouldn't necessarily get if you didn't go and read right, all 548 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.319 right, what I'm saying is that it's almost yeah, yeah, it's almost 549 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:49.920 unavoidable in this game. You just can't help. But like, especially if 550 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.039 you just end up reading a bunch of the books, you find like those 551 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.319 things are incredibly detailed. Well, I mean whatever the delivery mechanism, Like, 552 00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:58.279 I can appreciate that stuff. So if it's if it's done elegantly, 553 00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.480 then all the better. But also the as effect fiction, it's solely based 554 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:05.839 around you being human interacting with all these as I mean that is this storyline, 555 00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:07.239 whereas this you can roll anything. Yeah, you can be whatever you 556 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:10.360 want, and it just seem like people react. Yeah, there's a significant 557 00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:16.599 amount of unique dialogue based on what race you guys all humans for you. 558 00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:20.079 I think it is one of the one of the one of the active powers 559 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:22.840 you get, uh, I can't remember is the I think it's a high 560 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.960 off because one of the elves. It's a you can get command over animals. 561 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.039 But I didn't think that useful. Yeah, I think it was high 562 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.880 off, which gives you, uh, sixty seconds basically like your your magic 563 00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:39.480 like recharges like instantly, and you can cast those you can cast those specific 564 00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:45.159 race spells once a day. So I picked that just because that seemed really 565 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.000 useful because I wanted to use a bunch of magic for my character. I 566 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.599 think me and Jeff both ended up with the Imperials. Yeah, because they 567 00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.360 have they have I think they have better speech, is right. I think 568 00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.159 that's what it was bonus. But it was actually one of the very few 569 00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:59.559 things that I feel like is inferior in this is that they're not a lot 570 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.280 of speech checks, right, I mean, it's speech goes up just from 571 00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:05.800 you buying and selling stuff. But yeah, there aren't a ton of like 572 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.639 intimidated since you can't, since you can't actively don't points into speech, not 573 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:13.880 a lot of not a lot of opportunities to increase it. Trainer. You 574 00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.320 can buy a speech training if you want, but but rarely you find yourself 575 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:20.320 in a conversation with someone and you can just like talk your way out of 576 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.519 a quest legs or something like. Those things do pop up, like you'll 577 00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:28.400 you'll get speech options where it'll be intimidated or persuade or bribe or whatever. 578 00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.639 But it actually makes me wonder if you don't even see those options if your 579 00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:34.000 speech is not at a minimum level. I don't know, because I see 580 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.760 all three show up all the time, one of them always at least one 581 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.199 of them always works. So yeah, I mean, but you can't fail. 582 00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:42.320 Yeah, you can definitely, and that will say I'm not a big 583 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.000 fan of like games always surfacing numbers, but it is a little frustrating when 584 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.840 you don't get like a tangible understanding of why you Yeah, like, did 585 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.760 I fail because it's a dice role like house written because he doesn't respond well 586 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:59.360 to intimidation anytime there is like a speech chick it says intimidated at INtime. 587 00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:00.599 It's one of those like a yeah, if you failed it, so is 588 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:04.679 intimidated a speech check or is that just like you're stress like and fall out, 589 00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:07.159 except and fall out. It gave you a percentage chance that you would 590 00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.480 succeed, And in this it's just you either you see that you have the 591 00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:13.599 option, but you don't know how how well you'll do with it. But 592 00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:16.559 that's that's a mode I would really like to see, is like, expose 593 00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:21.079 more numbers, but that could easily be exposed. Just let you know how 594 00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.039 much you're gaining sneak at any given moment. I have it just a bunch 595 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:29.280 of bars and everywhere. Yeah, I want bars. I just want the 596 00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.280 numbers popping off. You've been playing chants call of Duty, right, I 597 00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:35.239 wanted one. I wanted. I wanted to output. I wanted to output 598 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.239 everything Prestige and Skyram. I want. I wanted to log to a text 599 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.920 file so I can look at it later, see what happened under the hood. 600 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.639 Yeah, there you go. Haven't pop up on your second mond watch 601 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.880 all the bars. I want real time performance analysis. A second screen with 602 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.599 all the bars actually would be awesome. There's your WU version. The reason 603 00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:58.960 I bring up the speech thing is that so this is me and you have 604 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.639 had the same experience like giving up magic. Yeah, probably because you kind 605 00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:05.000 of got bored with the spells you had, right, Yeah, I didn't 606 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.840 like the second level of fire of the like the fireballs because it's I miss 607 00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:13.760 a lot and then that totally sucks. So I had been sticking with the 608 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:15.920 first level, just kind of fire hose thing. Well, the thing, 609 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.400 the thing I suspected that seems to have been confirmed is that you don't get 610 00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.480 access to those higher tiers of spells until you skill up in that. In 611 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.039 that way, so there's like there's like three more tiers of destruction magic that 612 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.639 like we've never even seen. Okay, so yeah, I'm up to I'm 613 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:32.079 sticking to magic. I'm at the intermediate stuff and I just I just found 614 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.880 those like some wizard was selling them and then I was able to use them. 615 00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.239 I have forty in destruction right now. Frustration it's about where I'm around 616 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.079 there. So then I kind of gave up on it. But like if 617 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:44.039 you played a pure magic character, like you could probably get some pretty I 618 00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:51.239 was thinking it's about dropping shields and moving towards because they are magic sponge shields. 619 00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.159 Yeah, so it so, it's just it's just it's sort of like 620 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:57.199 the base level spells. You hold the button down to put up a block, 621 00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.840 but it's a magic block, so it'll absorb spell up to a certain 622 00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:02.880 point and and also you know, mitigate some damage. It raises your armor, 623 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.960 it does sound, and also it'll it'll boost my restoration stat. So 624 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:09.960 is that more anti magic though than anti physical? It is. It is 625 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.679 more anti magic, but it raises your armor stat when it's on, so 626 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:17.519 it'll kind of work for both. Huh, you're gonna read that book, 627 00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:24.760 Brad? What if that book is in that would be pretty good. I 628 00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:28.920 thought the end game books are totally worth reading though, and they're all very 629 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.880 short, but they're all like four or five pages long. But like, 630 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.599 you get really into reading them early on, just as you're trying to wrap 631 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:36.880 your head around the fiction. Then you hit a point where you're like, 632 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.159 I can't. Like, you walk into a broom and there are twenty five 633 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:45.199 books. They weigh anything no more than one. The quest ones don't, 634 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.840 the random ones do, so it's not really worth holding on to all of 635 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.119 them because they're skill books, then they're worth a little bit more. So 636 00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:55.039 sometimes they'd be worth skill books more than anything in the world. I wish 637 00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:59.159 the game made it clearer. What was a skill book? You have to 638 00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:00.519 read it, right, you just you don't have to flip the pages. 639 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:07.480 I love how many books and notes and stuff. There are the spawn quests 640 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.280 too, Like, yeah, there's nothing better than cracking a book and immediately 641 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:14.840 just like new quest added your log. Wow, so much stuff, Like 642 00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:16.760 there's there's dudes running up to you all the time, like like hey, 643 00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.679 I'm a courier. I got a note from an anonymous so and so here 644 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:24.039 you go and you read go to this cave quest right, sure, And 645 00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.480 it's hard to time. Much of that is the Radiant AI stuff, And 646 00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:31.360 I'll give the game credit to that. It's it's it's dynamic quest system. 647 00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.679 It feels totally I mean, maybe that'll feel different, like once you've cleared 648 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.960 everything out, you can more clearly see what is being dynamically generated. But 649 00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:44.079 it does a good job of faking you into thinking this is a scripted moment 650 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:46.440 to point you in the direction of something. So at one point I was 651 00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:49.880 like, they must have like five hundred people working on this game to put 652 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.079 all this stuff in there. But yeah, then you start to realize it's 653 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:53.719 all just like it's a system that shaking care of it under the hood, 654 00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:58.480 just like connecting all these different dots together to to funnel your progress. What's 655 00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:02.159 the saving like, it's total the hard save like you choose standard stuff. 656 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:07.320 The biggest change is that they save three tiers of auto saves now, so 657 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:08.880 you never you never get stuck in the situation where like people are chasing you 658 00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:10.880 through a door and you run through the door, and then that save is 659 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:15.800 just fucked because you can always roll back. Can't can't save in combat? 660 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.880 Yeah, oh you can't. You can save almost any time. I think 661 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.559 the only time you can't save is in the middle of the conversation, and 662 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:24.519 you can. You can. There are even variables in the menu to set 663 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.440 for how often it should make auto saves and stuff like that on the console 664 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.480 versions and all versions. How did what does that change? The biggest one 665 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:35.000 is that you'll notice it auto saves a lot when you pop up the like 666 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.440 the main character menure. Yes, you can set the interval of how often 667 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.199 it does that, so you can set it like every five minutes that you 668 00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:44.039 pop up the menu. It'll it'll make an auto save. It's deep. 669 00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.920 You could almost go through go through the game. Never make it a hard 670 00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:51.079 save. But I don't. I don't think I wouldn't recommend it. You'll 671 00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:53.800 learn quickly because because it it doesn't auto save in the world. In the 672 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:58.800 world you set that menu, you can set us super low. That's what 673 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:00.800 I'm saying. Like, if you said five minutes, then every time it 674 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.920 crosses the five minute mark and you haven't popped that thing up, the next 675 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.239 time you do, it makes its safe, yeah, because you'll you'll be 676 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.000 going through a dungeon. And then if you've gotten forty five minutes and and 677 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:14.039 hadn't pulled up your character menu, you'll just have lost forty five minutes. 678 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:15.800 So you learn pretty quickly to do the thing you doing with as the games, 679 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.039 which is save every five minutes, because you're gonna be pulling up the 680 00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:24.480 menus anyway. I'm scared, Vinnie, I'm ready. Are you ready? 681 00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:28.119 Your body ready? That's how I felt for a while. You just have 682 00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:30.000 to embrace it. Just dive in, just go, just start walking, 683 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.519 just go. I just I mean, I remember I bought Oblivion the day 684 00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.440 came out and did not play it for like two months. There's something we 685 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:43.599 said to be part of the like you got saying I have not. I 686 00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:49.599 can't recall a game that has seen such universal praise as as Skyrim. People 687 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.320 seem to really, really really enjoy that they finally did it. They like 688 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:58.039 they made Oblivion and it had its problems which were numerous and deep, and 689 00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:00.880 then they made like it basically took a break from the stuff to make Fallout, 690 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:01.960 and like seem like they picked up a lot of lessons along the way 691 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:07.440 and all that stuff just kind of came to fruition in this name. Well, 692 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.039 if any Caravel, you've not played any Sky, what have you been 693 00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:15.360 playing? Man? What do you think of Uncharted? I'm enjoying it. 694 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.599 It's not it's not in my soul like the second one one. It's not 695 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:27.239 I feel like I'm I don't feel like I feel like I'm journeying with Uncharted 696 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.920 three, but I'm not like I'm not like a tourist with Uncharted three. 697 00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:34.960 I don't feel as close to Nathan this time around, Like it's not just 698 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.199 he and I are just not buddies going through an adventure. Like too many 699 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.519 people I think in Uncharted three, like there's a gang of dudes, there's 700 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.679 there's Charlie, there's a that's about the same miss girl. I don't know. 701 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:47.559 I felt I felt a little more intimate and there's no tens in though, 702 00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:52.400 right, there's well then I felt like I feel like there is kind 703 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:58.519 of a tens in surrogate at a certain point. There's some kind of tens 704 00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.519 in moment in the co op. Also, I thought he might be in 705 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:04.960 there. Actually they actually bring like assets and stuff back from two for the 706 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:09.000 co op. I have not been in the game. Okay, that's kind 707 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:15.119 of he speaks, yeah, but speak, Yeah, that's right, spoken 708 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:20.559 like Nepolis or whatever. I don't know. Something something about it. I'm 709 00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:22.119 not quite sure. I can't put my finger on it. But uh, 710 00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:28.920 it could just be that two was it was a more uh unique at the 711 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.079 time, But I don't know. Something does seem like the characters this time 712 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:37.840 around. Maybe everybody is supporting Drake this time, right, He's got bigger 713 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:40.880 supporting crew, you can, whereas in two it felt like you weren't quite 714 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.239 he was kind of on his own, pissing everybody off it. There's not 715 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:45.840 as much ambiguity in the like you can you can take a lot of the 716 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.639 relationships for granted in this game. Yeah, like you kind of know what 717 00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.639 established stuff nowhere. Most everybody in this game is at in their lives and 718 00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.840 stuff like that. There's there's You're not You're not guessing like you were when 719 00:43:55.840 --> 00:44:00.599 people were double crossing back like backstabbing like left and right in the game. 720 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.920 Right, I mean the last game started off right with just double cross after 721 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.800 double cross, and and this one just seems maybe a little bit more I 722 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:09.079 think I was safe. It's I mean, it's different because all of the 723 00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:15.000 really meaningful character stuff in three is happening in flashback Like it's it's it's not 724 00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:20.440 like the meaning the real meaty character stuff in in a chart of two was 725 00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:24.039 happening right alongside this crazy ass adventure that they were on. Yeah. I 726 00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:28.679 just finished the part with the pirates, and like that part just seemed like 727 00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:30.559 it just came out of like it was like a weird side turn that just 728 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.960 kind of came out of left field and like introduced that new character that the 729 00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.360 pirate guy all that stuff, and it was just like, you know, 730 00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:40.880 where did this come from? There's no I have no investment in this really 731 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.320 other than to move on past this part. Uh. I mean I am 732 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:47.360 enjoying it. I mean I think it's great. It's just uh, maybe 733 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:51.159 not as much like I would almost put it down and start the skyroom, 734 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.159 which is kind of crazy to say, given that I'm probably about two thirds, 735 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:57.119 which you should just finish it. But yeah, I'm enjoying it a 736 00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.519 lot. They still do fantastic things with dialogue, and then the character interactions 737 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:05.760 are probably the most natural so far in any game. That the banter is 738 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.880 great. It doesn't feel like they're trying that hard. The animations are great. 739 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:13.320 Sometimes the animations are so good. When they they're they fluff a little 740 00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:15.159 bit or something goes wrong, it really breaks that kind of you know, 741 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.480 he does a lot of the wall touching and kind of like the turns are 742 00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:21.599 well done. His head always seems to be pointing in ther interaction, so 743 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:23.199 when it doesn't work, when he gets caught in a corner or something real 744 00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:27.679 quick like oh a video game, right, I forgot for a second rag 745 00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.400 doll. Yeah, when he does the rag bell, Yeah, yeah, 746 00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:35.400 I'm enjoying and it's moving by really quickly. I've hit a couple of harder 747 00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.840 encounters, Like there was a part on the Pirate stuff that had to do 748 00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.320 like five or six times, and it was just like, oh, yep, 749 00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:43.840 I don't want to do this anymore. Okay, I'll just I'll just 750 00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.599 get in a spot where I could shoot everybody with rocket launchers. So I 751 00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.239 found that hard though, Like just playing on normal, I found that hard. 752 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:55.280 Yeah, because like the enemies in that game will flank you hard, 753 00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:59.000 and they stream in. They just keep coming, and yeah, they they'll 754 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.960 come in volume and they will try and flush you out. They will flank 755 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:06.320 you, like they aren't just going to sit up from their cover and take 756 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.920 pot shot, so they will as well. So they'll be they'll be guys 757 00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:13.199 shooting rockets at you while everybody else. Right, there's the guy with the 758 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.039 shotgun is running up on you, while the guy with the RPG is suppressing 759 00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:19.360 you from afar. You can get it, can get harry, I think 760 00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:21.360 if you play enough of it, you can. I mean not that most 761 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.199 people will, but you can. You can get inside and kind of deconstruct 762 00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:27.000 the behavior of the others and stuff. I mean I played through it on 763 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:30.639 normal on the debug, and then played on hard on on the retail and 764 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:32.599 like got through it faster on Hard than I did on normal because at some 765 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:36.239 point you just kind of figure out what to expect. Yeah, and that's 766 00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:38.599 that's actually one of the things that bugs me a little bit. And again 767 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:42.519 these are all just kind of superficial things for me. I am enjoying it, 768 00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.239 but the character the bad guys are. You know, there's a normal 769 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.039 dude, there's a guy with armor on, and then there's the big thug 770 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:52.000 guy you kind of got to do the little like almost quick time event kind 771 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.119 of fights with. And then on the I've only seen up to the next 772 00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:57.519 set of guys, which are the pirate guys. There's a normal dude, 773 00:46:57.639 --> 00:46:59.800 there's a guy with armor on, and then they have their version of the 774 00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:04.840 bay thug guys a band down on. Yeah exactly, like they just have 775 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.119 like kind of different tears of enemies. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean 776 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.079 at some point you're making a concession to the amount of designing and like art 777 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.719 art art designing man hour or something. Absolutely, but it almost reminds me 778 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:17.039 of like a side scrolling brawler of like that. You know, just kind 779 00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:22.239 of like this guy's got a different health part and here like here's a bobo 780 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.159 and then here's a bobo with hair, and you have to fight them exactly 781 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.920 the same way, the same technique. So that that part was kind of 782 00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:31.000 like, as soon as I saw the first didn't I didn't mind the armored 783 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.960 guy, but as soon as I saw the big thug guy come out of 784 00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.199 the pirates, I was like, oh, man, really you just have 785 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:39.559 like a genetic clone of that other guy with a different texture on. I 786 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:43.840 mean, at least they make them similar enough that you can recognize that, 787 00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:45.079 Oh, that is that kind of guy. I'm going to need to approach 788 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:49.519 them like this because if if they made them like physically different but then just 789 00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.519 had the same kind of rule sets for how they behave oh no, Yeah, 790 00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.559 it was like, oh, I have to relearn this every time. 791 00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.239 No. I think the part that just bothers me a little bit is that 792 00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:00.760 it is exactly the same appro what you do is like they don't have specific 793 00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.679 enemies for the you know, pirates or whatever. It's not a unique enemy 794 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:07.360 in that sense. It's like just kind of carrious, So you're kind of 795 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.000 doing the same combat with everybody. They just look, that's all the guys 796 00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:14.800 there are that's in the world. You're either a dude, Yeah, a 797 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.760 dude who got some armor should be like sort of better. And then dude 798 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.280 who's just big. She's big, he doesn't need armor. He is the 799 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:23.920 armor. It doesn't even like guns. It looks like, I don't why. 800 00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:29.400 I mean, you're a feat tall, you don't you got all the 801 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.920 guns you needed right here? Kind of I'm kind of surprised to see some 802 00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:38.159 of the reaction to Uncharted three out there. It seems like the people are 803 00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:40.679 like, there's the people that are just straight up down on it, which 804 00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:44.559 which seems all strange. I mean, it definitely seemed like a well made 805 00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:46.800 game. Yeah, but I think it's it's you know, it's it's because 806 00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:51.199 of the high mark that the previous one set that people are are looking at 807 00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.360 this one and going like, the puzzles are really good. I mean, 808 00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:57.719 the puzzles and stuff and the things that come to you from two Uncharted for 809 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:00.519 are still there. Yeah, what about Batman? Have you if you played 810 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:04.079 more Batman come around on it really haven't any time. I was starting to 811 00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:06.920 like it a lot more. Yeah, it seems like Uncharted Batman both. 812 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:12.960 I'm seeing like, yeah, some some pretty low opinions. I think that's 813 00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.000 a lot of that feels kind of like stuff we've alluded to before. But 814 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:20.639 just like this generational fatigue with franchises and mechanics and and it's just it's kind 815 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.519 of how I felt about it, kind of feel about this game. Yeah, 816 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:28.199 like twenty eleven kind of like week thirds, I feel like we've gotten 817 00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.599 a lot of just like I think we're just over. We think we're just 818 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.679 hitting a wall. It means not not the broken record, but it's totally 819 00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.800 the Lucy k bit of everything's amazing and nobody's happy. You know, I 820 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:43.280 don't know. I think the games are really well done, but we've but 821 00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:46.440 we've played these games. Yeah they're not. They're not doing anything new. 822 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:50.760 It's it's it's it's or not doing it enough new. I guess. So 823 00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.079 it's I don't think that they're amazing. I guess yeah, I would, 824 00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:59.159 I would take away from the because like they're already accomplished. Yeah, this 825 00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:02.320 is better. It's a generalization, but but I mean, you can't point 826 00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:07.320 at things that these games are doing badly. Yeah. It wasn't until I 827 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:10.239 was until I played through Assassin's Creed Revelations over the weekend that I thought like, 828 00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.199 yeah, like because we we've talked about like a you know, a 829 00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:19.760 new generation of systems of consoles here on the podcast a few times. Uh, 830 00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:21.599 and I don't know if kind of like, you know, it's three 831 00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:24.719 sixty stuffs looks well enough and whatever, but after playing throughout, like yeah, 832 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.840 we need not to say that's a bad game. But it was just 833 00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:30.239 sort of the realization of, yeah, like we've kind of hit this weird 834 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:34.559 wall of this is as much as we can do, and like we can 835 00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.840 make minor tweaks to it and adjust it here and there, but these games 836 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:39.679 are going to be these games. Like you know, I think the annualized 837 00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:44.960 franchise stuff is a little bit different. Like what you're asking those ubi Stoft 838 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.480 teams to do in you know, these twelve months cycles. Assassins Creed Is 839 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.880 is an outlier, but it's still impressive what they do in twelve months on 840 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:57.800 those games. Like that's assets. Yeah, Like they just have six there's 841 00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:01.320 six teams working. They work Revelation, these six teams and there at the 842 00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:05.360 start that are listed at the start of the game, and they just they 843 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.719 just go down the list like just before anything happens in that game. It's 844 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.159 just like, you know, you be soft Montreal, you be soft Massive. 845 00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.920 But I feel like that is a game that's the tech new technology could 846 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:20.920 actually really help out with make everything more expansive, better physics, look sharper, 847 00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:22.840 Like that's a game the same game play could be. Well, I 848 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:29.199 mean, they've got bushes, now what there are flowery bushes that you can 849 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:31.639 go and hide. In an extent, it was new technology that enabled assassins 850 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:35.559 for read in the first place, if you couldn't do those crowd dynamics on 851 00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.800 the old console. But but it's not something that's just and I'm not trying 852 00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:39.960 to be little then, but it's not something that's just a pure first person 853 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:44.320 shooter where like you just get better graphics and kind of like natural looking environments. 854 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:46.280 Like there's a lot of stuff going on on the driving game, the 855 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:50.800 experienced, same type deal. Yeah, like the experience can be bigger. 856 00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.320 There's systems. Systems get choked by rams, systems get choked by processor speed, 857 00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:59.480 like the things that are blocked. There's only so many clever things you 858 00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:00.840 can do for me before you just hit a wall. So what's what's the 859 00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:06.440 deal with Assassin's Creed it's it's good, yeah, but it's not as good 860 00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:10.079 as the previous ones were. I feel like we are we have hit then 861 00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:15.000 the diminishing returns on the year every year sequels for that, for that franchise 862 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.320 like that. That game brings pretty much everything that Brotherhood did, and I 863 00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:22.199 really like Brotherhood. I thought the the you know, the Assassin's guild stuff 864 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.760 buying you know, businesses around town, creating this empire, this crazy assassin 865 00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:30.119 empire in town. That stuff was really cool. That's back. I thought 866 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:32.960 the multiplayer stuff was like a pleasant surprise, and I think that they've expanded 867 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:37.440 on that and some there's there's like a dozen modes in the multiplayer in that 868 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:42.679 game. It's nuts wow, which sometimes is too much, and sometimes they 869 00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:46.280 don't uh do a great job of explaining how it makes one different from the 870 00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:49.400 other. Well even just like what's going on, Like there are definitely some 871 00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.599 where I was like, Okay, I really have no idea what the rules 872 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:57.760 of this mode are, and and kind of just the troll and air eventually 873 00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.280 figuring out like oh okay, this v I P that I'm trying to protect 874 00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:04.440 isn't an actual player. It's just an AI that I have to protect. 875 00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:07.039 That's why I don't ever get to be the VIP in this mode because here 876 00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:12.480 vip. Yeah, that's a phrase that gets used in other multiplayer game type 877 00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.800 suits. You know, you have certain expectations about that, and that's not 878 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:20.280 true in uh in Revelations. But the stuff that that they add for for 879 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.599 Revelations, you know, there's a new city you're going. It's it's taking 880 00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:30.440 place primarily in Constantinople, which just kind of feels like like half of you 881 00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:36.480 know, the Italian cities in Assassin's Creed two and half of the Middle Eastern 882 00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:40.119 cities in Assassin's Creed one. It's kind of that, you know, Constantinople 883 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:45.400 is like East meets West. It's where Europe and Asia meet the exactly. 884 00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:47.280 And it feels like that, like it feels like, oh, we took 885 00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:50.719 a little bit of the kind of you know, the the world design of 886 00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:52.639 this one, a little bit of the world design of that one, and 887 00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:54.079 it kind of throw them together. So it's like, isn't that the one 888 00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:58.800 that actually historically was conquered so many times that like the oh yeah, and 889 00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.760 it just became you thinking of Istanbul and yeah, and yeah, constant and 890 00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:06.599 they call it both, they call it constant double, they call it Istanbul. 891 00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.039 They've got like eight other names for it. There's Byzantines, there's Ottoman. 892 00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:14.000 Like, yeah, there's just there's a shitload of different things going on, 893 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:20.280 but none of that is really I don't know, like your your main 894 00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:24.960 quest that that et CEO is on in this game. Uh, Like there's 895 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:30.719 opposition. There are templars fucking everywhere constantly, and they take many different forms, 896 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:36.159 but there's like I feel like they had really good core villains in past 897 00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:39.079 Assassin's Creed and you don't really get that focus in this. It's like et 898 00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:45.840 CEO starts the game with a very specific quest and like by the end of 899 00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:50.199 the game, he has accomplished that quest, and that's the game for the 900 00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:53.519 most part. Like there's some some subplots about, you know, the royal 901 00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:58.639 family, and there's this bookseller that you get hooked up with and have a 902 00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:04.320 relationship with of sorts, but mostly it's just like that's just gotta go do 903 00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.119 a thing. He does a thing, and that's that's the game. Uh 904 00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:13.119 yeah, yeah, it's game. That's the thing is that that that title 905 00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:15.760 is misleading. I feel like there's this game is very short on revelations, 906 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:19.679 because that's the thing. Like I feel like after Brotherhood, like I kind 907 00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:22.880 of like I want to play this, but I also feel like I could 908 00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:27.000 maybe skip this year, Like what what? What is the story important stuff? 909 00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:29.880 This is? I mean, the thing is like it's it's not that 910 00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.360 significant to the greater So, I mean, Desmond is kind of like the 911 00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:37.280 core of the Assassin's Creed story, right, Like for everything else that changes, 912 00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.960 Desmond is is the constant at least so far. Not to say that 913 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:46.679 there's hints that that'll change, but all of this takes place inside of his 914 00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:55.360 head like these obviously obviously they mostly do, but he is like one of 915 00:55:55.400 --> 00:56:01.719 this game is is virtualized. So there really isn't any forward movement on Desmond's 916 00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.360 story. All you're really getting is a whole lot of et CEO and a 917 00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:07.639 little bit of All tiear So what happened? They don't get equal time? 918 00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:12.679 No, not at all. At the All Tires segments, there's five of 919 00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.280 them, they are very limited to scope. There's no open world elements to 920 00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:20.599 them. It's a super narrow path. It's it's almost more story related than 921 00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:25.400 it is like action. This feels misleading Yeah, it feels grossly misleading about 922 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:29.760 this product. I think they have kind of sold this as being like the 923 00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.480 you know, two of them together or whatever, and actually it sounds like 924 00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:37.280 the Catwoman of this game. It's actually it's weird. It's weirder than that, 925 00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:38.920 because all right, so you're trying to get these artifacts, right, 926 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:44.199 there are these these discs that you're trying to find for a reason. Let's 927 00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:46.880 just say, but when you get them or I'm sorry, when et Ceo 928 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:52.519 gets them, et Ceo recalls an all Ti year memory. So keep in 929 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:55.679 mind, Desmond is already recalling et Ceo because he is in the animus, 930 00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:00.559 and then inside of this animus simulation, et Ceo is going and find this 931 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:07.280 thing that's allowing him to recall memories. So it's it's like two layers in 932 00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:09.000 and I wish they would have played with that more. They don't like that 933 00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:12.679 is a crazy thing that's happening. If you actually think about it. In 934 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:20.920 in the fiction, you're like job placement. But yeah, they don't. 935 00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:22.480 They don't really ever go into that. So yeah, the ultiyear stuff is 936 00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:28.079 is pretty limited, so there there is no forward movement on the events at 937 00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:31.199 the end of Brothers a very minor amount. So would you if they say 938 00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:34.199 they were making another et CEO game, would you be like, yeah, 939 00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:37.599 sure, there's more story. I know they ought not. It would look 940 00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:40.639 really bad. Basically it wouldn't, but it would look really bad based on 941 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:44.360 the way this game goes. I'd say, yeah, they should move on. 942 00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:46.320 But but do you get closure at least do you feel like you're done 943 00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:49.159 with it? I mean it's pretty old by the end of this one, 944 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:54.360 right, No, I wouldn't say you get a ton of closure at the 945 00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:59.880 end of Brotherhood. Yeah, I totally. He could have passed the time 946 00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.000 him that era, that era, like I had no interest in any alt 947 00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:07.920 Ear stuff at all, And yeah I don't. I don't think I'm gonna 948 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.880 like the opening. The opening premise of this game is is Desmond's mind is 949 00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:15.480 all fucked up and he needs to go and play out the rest of the 950 00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:19.760 Altai Year and et CEO stories to get his mind back in order before the 951 00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:22.440 animus deletes him. Everything. Everything about this game just sounds like filler. 952 00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:28.559 It just sounds like another annual stop out, which you know, like it's 953 00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:31.960 well made, which we anticipated for Brotherhood. We thought Brotherhood was going to 954 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:35.920 be that, and then Brotherhood kind of brought it and brother had brought it 955 00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:42.119 hard even the story beats. Yeah, big significant forward movement in that game. 956 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.360 This I don't feel it is quite as much. It feels like that 957 00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:46.840 the story we all want to see go forward, Like they have these like 958 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:52.239 two minute chunks they're just doling out with these with these other games and the 959 00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:55.079 and like new mechanical stuff I'm not a huge fan of. Like there's basically 960 00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:59.960 tower defense, like they've they've kind of started tying together some of the system 961 00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:05.960 that were a little more separate in Brotherhood, such as the tower stuff. 962 00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:08.000 Well, there's the tower defense stuff, but to even get to that, 963 00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:13.920 I have described like three other systems. First, because there's all, right, 964 00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:16.280 there's templar dens all throughout town. You can go and find the captain 965 00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:20.559 in those, kill them, light the tower, and then that becomes an 966 00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:24.519 assassin's den. Had that in Brotherhood. Yeah, and you also have the 967 00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:31.000 whole like international uh like assassin's guild thing where you are recruiting these these assassins 968 00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:36.920 in Constantinople and then sending them off on missions in other parts of the world. 969 00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.719 Like all it's it's this, the Facebook games still work Mediterranean area tie 970 00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.840 to the same Facebook game or a different things. So no, but then 971 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:47.840 but then the the that meta game, the like you know, sending your 972 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:52.840 assassins out of town to go do jobs. You can then send them permanently 973 00:59:52.960 --> 01:00:00.320 to those locations and then they will be defending assassin's dens in those play bass 974 01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:06.440 from templar attacks. So if you keep a presence in these other towns, 975 01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:08.559 and again you don't see these places, it's just like in a menu, 976 01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:13.519 like all right, I say this assassin goes over there. If you're able 977 01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:16.880 to maintain a presence there, then you get like daily XP and daily money 978 01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:22.960 just from from having that. So you've got these assassins guilds or these these 979 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:27.280 assassins dens in town. Once you get one of those, one of your 980 01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:31.440 guild assassins up to a certain level, then he can become a master assassin, 981 01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:36.239 which means that then he protects that den, because if you don't have 982 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.599 a master assassin at pretaining a den, I think this is right, and 983 01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:42.960 you get your templar awareness to a certain level, which is basically if you 984 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.760 go and do too much gangster shit or recruit too many assassins, you know, 985 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:50.920 burn down too many templar bases whatever, their awareness will become high and 986 01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:52.239 anytime they see you, they will try and jump you. And then also 987 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:59.599 they will try and retake the assassins dens that you took from them originally, 988 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:02.400 and then to defend from that. It goes into this tower defense game, 989 01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:07.760 which is basically like one of the two or three sounds like a Facebook game. 990 01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:10.000 New additions, know what it is. They've added a lot of menus 991 01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:13.800 to the game. That's what I kind of feel like. I feel like 992 01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:17.239 they're their most significant additions to this game mechanically are like menus, like more 993 01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:22.000 fun menus. I don't don't sound like I don't like the tarre defense thing 994 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:25.920 at all. Actually, the Brotherhood stuff I fell deep into. I spent 995 01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:30.280 a lot of time doing that stuff, and I really enjoyed it. But 996 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:32.519 the Tire Defense stuff I really didn't like. I never cracked it. I 997 01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:37.519 never figured out what the right balance was because it's it's basically like there's two 998 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:42.639 or three different levels that you can do this twer defense on. Like it 999 01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:45.239 seems like they've made two or three different paths. Basically, it's just a 1000 01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:50.679 single path you have two rooftops on on either side of the road, and 1001 01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:52.360 at the end of the road is you know, your den, and you 1002 01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:57.119 can choose to put different types of assassins on the rooftops, and you can 1003 01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:00.079 also shoot cannon fire at the at the temple our troops that are coming in. 1004 01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:04.039 And you know, if a certain troops get in, then the life 1005 01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:07.119 bar on your thing goes down, and if you don't defend, you know, 1006 01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:09.079 through the end of the waves, then they get to retake it at 1007 01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:14.199 a certain point. I was just letting them like retake these these these dens 1008 01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:17.679 because it's easier for me to then afterwards just go in, use use my 1009 01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:21.719 assassins that I have on hand, Just find the captain, murder him, 1010 01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:23.239 relight the tower, and take it over, and that's it. And then 1011 01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:27.639 go in and get my and then go get my fucking master assassin, lock 1012 01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:30.480 that den down, and then not have to worry about a lot of shaking 1013 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:34.519 heads around this table. None. None of that sounds cool. So yeah, 1014 01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:36.719 that's the thing. Is like the new stuff they added and brotherhood was 1015 01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:40.360 awesome, like almost almost you know laterally, yes, and that stuff is 1016 01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:45.119 still here, which is good, and that stuff is still fun, but 1017 01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:46.679 the new system they've added I don't care for as much. You know, 1018 01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:51.800 they've done some stuff with the You've got this hook blade now that basically just 1019 01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:54.119 lets you climb buildings faster, which is nice because, hey, you've been 1020 01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:58.960 playing Assassin Creed now for four games. You know what's up with climbing? 1021 01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:01.800 You used to want to get up there more quickly. Yeah, so they 1022 01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:04.679 let you do that, although at the same time they make some of the 1023 01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:07.599 towers way taller, uh, to kind of make it so that you're still 1024 01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:10.519 climbing as much time. I guess. I don't know. Did you make 1025 01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:14.760 some bombs? Yeah, there's bomb crafting. You forgot it, completely forgot 1026 01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:19.760 about everything I've heard about it is like I didn't touch it. It just 1027 01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:22.039 sounds like you think you could or you couldn't. But they had these bomb 1028 01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.840 crafting spots everywhere. And also the bomb crafting spots are usually runecks to where 1029 01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:31.760 you go and do the assassins or send assassins off on missions, so it's 1030 01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:36.119 convenience. Yeah. I'm over here already, so I might as well do 1031 01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:43.639 them. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely good for distracting guards. Money bomb and 1032 01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:46.679 us. I didn't get the money bomb that that often you make, you 1033 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:51.920 make a fool's gold bomb, so you're just like throw it out and it'll 1034 01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:54.840 like it's it's it's like the more explosive, violent version of throwing coins out 1035 01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:58.800 on the street. Would you still do? And that's the other thing is 1036 01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:02.199 everything literally everything from Brotherhood is still there. There's still all these shops that 1037 01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:04.639 you can buy and then you get a discount, and then you know, 1038 01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:08.159 you bringing in regular money from that you got to go to the bank at 1039 01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:11.360 regular intervals to pull money out, which is still kind of weird. There's 1040 01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:15.960 that underground network, uh, you know, like the tunnel system, so 1041 01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:21.800 you can fast travel from point to point pretty easily. I'm trying to think 1042 01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:27.960 what else there's you know, mercenaries and thieves and gypsies that you can and 1043 01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:32.199 gypsies replacing the cortisons that you can hire and then have roll around with you 1044 01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:40.159 for limited time. Yeah, all that stuff is still there, but it's 1045 01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.159 just it's yeah, diminishing returns man. Yeah, without the story, without 1046 01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:45.599 some some cool story stuff backing it up. I don't. Oh. Also, 1047 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:50.079 so the only time that you really play as Desmond is on Animus Island, 1048 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:55.639 which is basically like the Animus loading program from where you jump into the 1049 01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:59.360 the you know, the real world or whatever stuff. Right. Yeah, 1050 01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:03.079 so they're of these five challenges, these Desmond challenges that you go through or 1051 01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:06.039 can go through. It's entirely optional. You don't have to do this, 1052 01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:10.079 No you can. I think you can finish the game without seeing any others. 1053 01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:15.039 So is this the equivalent of like finding the hidden glyphs in Brotherhood and 1054 01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.039 two? I guess so, So, I mean this does those aren't in 1055 01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:20.159 this one? This does. No, there's no hidden movie. No, 1056 01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:24.719 there's no hidden so this must but there is, Well, you are finding 1057 01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:28.280 you are going into like Assassin's Vision, an awful lot in this game, 1058 01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:33.039 I feel like more so than in previous games. But that's like there's story 1059 01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:38.119 missions that demand that, and it's and it's not. It's not challenging the 1060 01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:41.599 way that the glyph stuff was. Okay, it doesn't have that little bonus 1061 01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:45.440 feature. There are also no horses other than like a couple of like beginning 1062 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:47.880 and end scripted sequences. There are no horses around town. So that's another 1063 01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:51.039 thing that Brotherhood added that this does not. So this is just one town. 1064 01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:56.719 Then you're not going between different Okay, it is, it all takes 1065 01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.599 almost all takes place in Constantinope, the meaningful stuff takes place there. But 1066 01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:05.719 anyways, the Desmond like story stuff, the stuff that happens in this on 1067 01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:10.920 animous island. You go through these gates and then there are these weird like 1068 01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:15.760 abstract three D you're playing from a first person perspective for one thing, and 1069 01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:19.719 you have you're basically able to create a path directly in front of you, 1070 01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:24.360 and you can then walk on that path, and then you can lay down 1071 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:30.199 another piece. It's like these kind of like flat lego brick looking like lengths 1072 01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:33.800 of I don't know, material blocks basically, and you then have to kind 1073 01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:38.360 of puzzle your way through these environments, like basically navigate them, using these 1074 01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:42.840 things to get through them. And while you're doing this, Desmond is basically 1075 01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:46.920 you're like recounting his life and giving you all of this crazy backstory about him 1076 01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:50.440 that you had no idea about. But it's all just delivered kind of just 1077 01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:56.440 in this weird, nonchalant way of all Right, I'm I don't understand necessarily 1078 01:06:56.480 --> 01:07:00.760 the connection between like jumping around in this weird puzzle room and Desmond telling me 1079 01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:04.639 about living on a commune with his parents, Like, it's do you do 1080 01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:09.559 you get any sense that's falling? What happens that? Like, if we 1081 01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:13.400 are indifferent about this one, should I be excited about the next one? 1082 01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:15.960 Okay? I have no idea. I mean, there's one next because I 1083 01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:18.360 was one. There's one next November, because I already said it, because 1084 01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:21.519 I was excited. I was excited about this one after the end of Brotherhood. 1085 01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:28.280 Yeah, and this one really addresses doesn't moves forward nothing that happened in 1086 01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:32.440 Brotherhood. So but they did say publicly that this is the end of the 1087 01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:38.599 Eteo storyline. They have said this is the end of et Ceo and Altier's 1088 01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:42.719 storyline. They have not said what happens beyond that the ends of their stories. 1089 01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:45.800 But there's also still massive gaps in They're like, yeah, they are 1090 01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:48.360 leaving the like they are sort of leaving the door opened. I think to 1091 01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:51.639 go back to that if they if they desire it, Like there are decades 1092 01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:58.199 upon decades that you do not see in both alti Year and et CEO's lives 1093 01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:02.840 in this game. So good I'm saying, I'm saying, if they wanted 1094 01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:08.639 to go back and fill in those gaps they totally could or backwards whoa, 1095 01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:15.039 whoa, whoa. But yeah, it's mechanics, you know, it's it's 1096 01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:17.840 weird. It's like I don't like I could just go on about how, 1097 01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:23.079 you know, the things I don't like and the you know, how it's 1098 01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:26.199 deficient or whatever. But it's still had fun with like most of the game, 1099 01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:30.439 like just the basics of running around, jumping off roof rooftop, stabbing 1100 01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.159 dudes, calling in your assassins, like all that stuff is still super satisfying. 1101 01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:39.319 Like they didn't. I don't feel like anything broke the fundamentals. It's 1102 01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:43.239 just that the things that they added aren't as compelling as they've been years past. 1103 01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:47.600 No, that's kind of that's Assassin's Creed. I'll play it. I'm 1104 01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:50.399 just not in a rush. Yeah, you know what, there are other 1105 01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:55.079 things that you can get around to it absolutely, Brad. I know you 1106 01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:59.840 still haven't played Brotherhood. Take your time last year enjoy it. I was 1107 01:08:59.880 --> 01:09:02.119 like I was watching you play Revelations. I was crack that Brotherhood open and 1108 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:05.600 catch up like now. But I think no, I think you're okay. 1109 01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:10.640 I was fine, like et CEO is supposed to be like in his fifties 1110 01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:13.680 in this game, and he is every bit as spry as he ever was. 1111 01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:16.520 The only difference is I think care of himself. I think every once 1112 01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:19.439 in a while when you land, he lands a little harder and you can 1113 01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:26.920 get a little more, a little more. Oh just kill me. But 1114 01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.920 great if you did that for like five minutes afterwards, like sucking my hand. 1115 01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:35.680 You welcome back, welcome my back. Alright, alright, I'm good. 1116 01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:43.479 Let's go. I think I look just to let me. If anything, 1117 01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:46.640 he's performing more fantastical feats than he ever did. There's actually a point. 1118 01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:49.079 So you know, you do like the tower dive thing, like it's 1119 01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:53.640 the get up on your little perch and you do the scan and then you 1120 01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:57.319 jump off into it. I love that and that will never ever get old. 1121 01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:00.479 But like the towers have gotten so tall now it's impossible. It's like 1122 01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:04.399 he's falling, like he's still falling it. Actually I've actually seen it, 1123 01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:11.560 like end the falling animation routine before he gets into the sack, so it 1124 01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:15.199 seems like he actually bunches up into a little ball, when whence he's actually 1125 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:18.840 hits the haystack. But you can kind of what you can kind of see 1126 01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:24.800 him starting to do that just before he actually like goes through the haystack. 1127 01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:28.279 So it's like you can see the next step in the animation routine that you're 1128 01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:32.600 not supposed to. And you said it didn't move the story forward. What 1129 01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.720 do they do when they lose those haystacks? Man? I think about bushes. 1130 01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:41.560 I told you this bushes? Is this there there in the future, 1131 01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:45.359 There are still bushes, so they're always be there enough. I don't know 1132 01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:55.199 how many bushes do you see people just yeah laying on dude? What not? 1133 01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:59.680 That many bushes? We'll seere. They've got haystacks. They've got those 1134 01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:02.439 flower are carts that they introduced in the I think the food trucks. You 1135 01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:05.079 can just jump into food trucks, land on top of the food truck, 1136 01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:10.359 bacon truck, land on a bed of burritos. Well the next one, 1137 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:13.199 yeah, don't. We don't know what the future looks. It's prehistoric times, 1138 01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:15.760 right, So he's just gonna land on dinosaurs. Oh man, that 1139 01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:19.159 done toy with my emotions. Landnosaur? Pop? But you you are actually 1140 01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:25.359 are a dinosaur? Oh okay, that's for it. Just yeah, first 1141 01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:28.039 ten flower is actually a velocity that's what they're gonna find out, is you 1142 01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:30.960 are actually of the line of your reptilian and you know, mammals went a 1143 01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:35.640 certain way and reptiles went a different way, and so assassins became. That's 1144 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:42.199 where I don't know that happened in relations. I mean, I guess like 1145 01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:46.399 they just saying that they do expand someone like the mythology and like you get 1146 01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:49.720 a little more of that for civilization stuff that's out there. I mean, 1147 01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:53.880 you are saying this is all going to tie into the reptile men who haven't 1148 01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:57.880 infiltrated Congress very possibly, I don't even know what you're talking about. Is 1149 01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:00.880 not aware of the dude? Really, which one? Who's the reptile man? 1150 01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.520 All of them? Put put the glasses on. Put the glasses on. 1151 01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:04.720 You never actually read about this stuff, don't you. That's why we 1152 01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:08.520 got those glasses. It's those sweety glasses. That's why I got the But 1153 01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:12.920 my bug got bag on the feels themselves. Wait, who's reptile man? 1154 01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:16.960 The one percent? Everybody ever Illuminati? Like there there is like three hundred 1155 01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:20.239 of them. There is Actually there was actually like a serious conspiracy theory like 1156 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:25.840 ten fold half style out there about about secret reptile people who run society. 1157 01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:31.319 How the sky Rim is just fucking flipping them out. They're just trying to 1158 01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:35.000 get people used to the idea of reptile man so they reveal themselves your true 1159 01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:39.079 leaders. They're not going to flip out. Are they cold all the time? 1160 01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.279 That's a good question. Have they seen this? Is it like? 1161 01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:46.119 Is it like King Kopa from Mario Brothers? Are they just terrible? Is 1162 01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:48.880 it terrible? This is the world they don't want to live in. Just 1163 01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:53.760 kill me now, you get my super scope and shoot myself in the head. 1164 01:12:55.800 --> 01:13:00.039 But yeah, like they they they I guess you know, expand on 1165 01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:04.520 some of that stuff, but this is not If you've not played Assassins Creed 1166 01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:09.720 before, don't start with this one. And if you're not up to date, 1167 01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:14.600 also, don't start with this. Basically, play all the other Assassin's 1168 01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:19.000 Creed games before you play this, except remember the first one. I didn't 1169 01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:23.000 play the first one. You can catch up just fine. Two is where 1170 01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:26.960 you should start. Well, there's some there's some stuff in this one because 1171 01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:31.960 it goes can YouTube walkers. It is not worth whatever you can to not 1172 01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:39.479 play through. Don't have to play it. Is it is it is now. 1173 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:43.239 Oh, I didn't even collect the fight. If you if you try 1174 01:13:43.279 --> 01:13:45.760 to go back, I tried to go back. You can't go back if 1175 01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:47.319 you play it first. It might be okay, yes, if you if 1176 01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:53.760 you are ignorant of the jump between one and two, I think added a 1177 01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:57.600 lot of stuff to the combat that two didn't have. Yeah, that would 1178 01:13:57.600 --> 01:14:00.640 be hard to go back. Yeah, the commas got faster. It did 1179 01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:02.319 well. It became it became the thing where you could do the counter and 1180 01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:06.680 then you could just chain chain off of your counters. Forgot that wasn't into 1181 01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:12.359 You've got some and you've got some enemies that in this that are a little 1182 01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:15.479 trickier that you have to use some alternate tactics on which I did not use 1183 01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:16.720 during the quick look, which is why some of the combat didn't look right 1184 01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:20.800 there. But I figured out later where you have to we have to use 1185 01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:25.439 like counter grab moves to start taking them down. I feel like there might 1186 01:14:25.479 --> 01:14:32.720 be some stories from revelations that no from Brotherhood that might I'm not I don't 1187 01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:39.960 know if I'm remembering correctly. Taught speak to you uh Etio's spryness. I 1188 01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:45.319 thought he encountered some stuff that some magics. I can't quite remember though, 1189 01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:49.560 I mean there's I mean it's not really magic, but him it's magic whatever, 1190 01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:53.800 whatever the I don't know what's happening in that universe. Yeah, to 1191 01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:58.800 me, it's magic reptiles. Yeah. And there's still like a lot of 1192 01:14:58.920 --> 01:15:03.000 just yeah, there's there's still a lot of hinting at and in implications things 1193 01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:06.000 are not being said. Fucking rip the curtain back. That's what I wanted 1194 01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:12.560 from this game. I don't think you actually want the schasm. Did you 1195 01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:15.079 see did you see the end of two? We don't know what we're doing. 1196 01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:18.760 This curtain is the most interesting thing we have going. What the fuck 1197 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:21.960 happened at the end of two? Were still I finished two? What happened? 1198 01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:26.199 That's why you gotta play Brother so you can confuse yourself even more. 1199 01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:30.119 See you don't. Don't act like it clears everything up or makes to you 1200 01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:33.119 to sound anymore same as you play Saints ro That's all I'm gonna say. 1201 01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:42.159 That actually explains a lot about the Assassin's Creed franchise. It all happens in 1202 01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:46.079 a conversation in a car. They just they just a sublime Yes, what 1203 01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:49.479 if we build a machine that let us go into our past cells. Fuck, 1204 01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:55.520 I don't know, jeez, Saints Ro I should play that as well. 1205 01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:58.039 Yeah that's out today. Yeah, I want to play that. Any 1206 01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:01.920 Caravella you play anything else? No, it was uncharted and uh staring at 1207 01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:08.079 Skyrim on Steam. Oh god, we have like fucking five other big games 1208 01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:11.039 to talk about. I just realized we do. I'm starting to get a 1209 01:16:11.079 --> 01:16:14.359 game paralysis that this this is the week. Yeah, so just kind of 1210 01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:16.920 looking at stuff being like I can't can't start anything. I'm just gonna go 1211 01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:20.039 into grabbed my bug, got bagging. I'm going you could you could maybe 1212 01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:24.119 save Skyrim for when you take that time off in a couple of weeks here. 1213 01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:26.640 Yeah, that is. That is a great game to have like several 1214 01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:29.159 days of a road to play, because it's not fun to come to work 1215 01:16:29.199 --> 01:16:31.399 and think about sky Room all day. Because once you start playing and stop 1216 01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:34.199 playing, because it's not a game that like you reach a point where like 1217 01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:36.359 cool, I feel I feel good turning this off. It's like, yeah, 1218 01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:41.720 it's two thirty. I've hit a couple of spots where it's like, 1219 01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:43.880 all right, I think I'm good. Whether you know, it was like 1220 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:45.600 I would die and lose some progress or something like that. That's what got 1221 01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:49.960 me start happen because I lost twenty minutes of conversation. Yeah, like all 1222 01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:54.199 right, I'm not gonna run back to you. Just always have something else 1223 01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:58.800 you could be doing this that's within two or three minutes. It's it's it's 1224 01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:00.560 not like it's you know, to build up to this next quest, take 1225 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:02.479 twenty minutes to get any things? Well, like no, no, like 1226 01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:05.199 you want to do something three seconds from now, great, It's it's crazy 1227 01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:08.479 that you can. You can start the game, you can pick up the 1228 01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:11.800 initial quests, and then you can never empty your quest log out again because 1229 01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:15.119 in the course of doing any random quests, pick up like three more like 1230 01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:16.760 it never stops. When I when I played two nights ago, I didn't 1231 01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:19.880 do any combat over the course of three hours. Yeah. Yeah, it's 1232 01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:23.680 funny, like depending on what you're doing, you could raise like three levels 1233 01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:28.079 in two hours and then go like two nights without getting another lost, especially 1234 01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:30.960 when you get to a new city, like it's so overwhelming to try and 1235 01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:33.319 because you want to go into every building and try and get a sense of 1236 01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:35.560 every quest that you could just pick up even if you're not going to do 1237 01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:40.359 it right then. And each village, each city probably takes an hour just 1238 01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:45.680 to get a quest limit. Nothing I've seen. I've got a shipload any 1239 01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:49.199 active quests for it's like main like story. Yeah yeah, if it's in 1240 01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:51.760 the quest log, it has a name and context and like a little story 1241 01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:56.119 behind. And how many hours have you played Left Off sixty? Yeah? 1242 01:17:56.680 --> 01:18:00.800 Yeah, but yeah, dude, I think I think Patrick he played the 1243 01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:03.680 game. I kind of want to jump into Next Modern War for three. 1244 01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:10.039 Yes, tell me all about it. I beat it. I had more 1245 01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:12.640 fun with it than probably I care to admit. Yeah, I don't know 1246 01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:16.439 what happened. It's how you feel guilt. Yeah, yeah, Well it's 1247 01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:20.560 so bro and like I like and I look at it and I you know, 1248 01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:24.680 like we talked about when when Choto about playing through it, how when 1249 01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:28.720 you kind of step back and look at what you're doing, like there's not 1250 01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:31.000 really that much interesting going on, but there's so much going around on around 1251 01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:34.600 you that you're just okay with it. And it's fun. It's big, 1252 01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:40.000 blockbuster, dumb video game. And for the four and a half hours or 1253 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:43.600 whatever it took me like I had a good time. Only I don't played 1254 01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:45.279 a couple of hours of it. But it's like there's there's a couple of 1255 01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:49.760 genuinely breathtaking moments in that, like the air The airplane scene specifically, I 1256 01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:53.560 think is the highlight for me in that game. Some stuff that just looks 1257 01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:58.920 cool. That's that's kind of spectacle stuff that you don't see in games. 1258 01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:02.640 But you shoot, you shoot a lot of dudes. You shoot so many 1259 01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:06.479 dudes. There's just there's just there's to be shot. There's so many dudes 1260 01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:10.800 to get shousted like that. Yeah, One thing I will say is they 1261 01:19:10.840 --> 01:19:15.079 don't differentiate the enemies enough. A lot of times, so much friendly fire 1262 01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:18.520 because I don't know I'm shooting. That's just like the real thing. I 1263 01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:23.039 had the same all right, then I had the same problem in modern warfare 1264 01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.119 too. Of I feel like it's way more pronounced and put a couple of 1265 01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:28.399 bullets in everybody and hope for the best. Yeah, and they'll say, 1266 01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:30.640 hey, don't you blot yourself. I don't know how the game because there 1267 01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:34.079 will be times where it will game over you too for a friendly fire. 1268 01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:39.319 But I committed friendly fire so many times. I don't get to like agreedious. 1269 01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:42.520 Do I have to be in order to get that prompt. He maybe 1270 01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:47.840 just hey, yeah, it is me. You're shooting me. There's an 1271 01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:51.680 icon my name appeared next to me. When you put the cursor over me. 1272 01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:55.560 That means I'm with you. Those are bullets and they'll do a little 1273 01:19:55.800 --> 01:20:00.800 maybe. There were so many other things happening, even just everybody to move. 1274 01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:04.960 Honestly, I understand why they put the giant follow over Captain Price's head 1275 01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:09.319 for most of that game. Yeah, yeah, I was talking about the 1276 01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:17.000 other Bro game, bro Bro Games. Yeah, it's so the thing that 1277 01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:25.399 I will say, like Skywards Snored, I did call it. I've called 1278 01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:29.520 it Skyrim Sword at these at these once or twice we're playing those and together. 1279 01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:35.439 Takes place in Skyland. Yes, sky Loft, sky Loft is there, 1280 01:20:35.479 --> 01:20:41.319 The Skylanders are there fighting with the skylt sky sky Loft is just a 1281 01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:44.840 subset of the Skyland, right, yeah, yeah, so the upstairs there 1282 01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:47.840 are creatures in in Skyward Sword that I could very much see in the Skylanders 1283 01:20:48.279 --> 01:20:51.680 series three. So if you're standing on the sky rim of sky Loft, 1284 01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:55.880 then you're looking out across the Skyland. I'm saying, yeah, okay, 1285 01:20:56.720 --> 01:21:00.079 except the sky Rim is below everything else unless well, the sky the Skyrim 1286 01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:03.800 region. If you're talking about the sky rim of Skylofts, then yes, 1287 01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:06.800 you would be looking over the skyland saying if you find it, help wanted 1288 01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:10.479 sign and Skyrim do not answer. It is not what you think it's going 1289 01:21:10.520 --> 01:21:16.039 to. I had a guy asked me to go find a dog that also 1290 01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:19.560 went all kinds of bad. When the prince quest, oh, we didn't 1291 01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:23.520 even talk about the dad was it was we saved that way a week out. 1292 01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:26.279 The Dadrik quests. They are the fucking best here, the equivalent of 1293 01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:29.760 the Vaults and Fall. Oh, they're so good. It was just kind 1294 01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:34.600 of like the the out of fiction weirdness. The dad Princes are all demigods, 1295 01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:38.479 so like, you know, there's there's reason that they can kind of 1296 01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:43.479 like put reality on hold because they have immense magical powers. But those are 1297 01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:45.840 the moments of we're just we just want to do something a little weird. 1298 01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:48.439 Yeah, yeah, it gets it gets super weird, but like plausibly weird. 1299 01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:53.880 Okay, like yeah, it's awesome. I have I'm shifting through emails 1300 01:21:53.920 --> 01:21:57.000 to the Bond cast. I have seen a lot of people talking about I 1301 01:21:57.079 --> 01:22:00.800 saw this crazy thing in Skyrim, What the hell and I think a lot 1302 01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:02.880 of it had to do with those those quests a really good and there's a 1303 01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:05.520 lot of them. It seems like there's at least fifteen. So what's up 1304 01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:13.000 with octa rocks and three? I figured with the Yeah, three, Actually 1305 01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:15.319 there's there's a couple of there's a couple of times it takes there's a couple 1306 01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:16.239 of times it takes two. There's a couple of times it takes two. 1307 01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:20.279 What I feel like, I feel like just just kind of a light arrow. 1308 01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:23.399 Is that kind of a hit? Well, there's no, there's dark 1309 01:22:23.439 --> 01:22:27.680 different types of arrows. What game are you playing that's dark souls? Is 1310 01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:32.439 there a boomerang? There is no boomerang. Yeah, that's there. What 1311 01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:38.399 there's you kind of have to grab vial. You have the far away you 1312 01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:41.880 have you have almost two equivalents to that one. You have a beetle that 1313 01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:44.920 you shoot out and you guide with the remote you kind of ling around. 1314 01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:46.760 You get some up grass to speed it up, make it last longer, 1315 01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:50.039 and then you have a whip. The whip doesn't get used very much. 1316 01:22:50.680 --> 01:22:54.600 That's that's kind of glossed over in the game. There's only a couple of 1317 01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:58.039 items like you get you use a couple of times and then I don't get 1318 01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:00.399 back. But I just I think I feel like people have gotten so jaded 1319 01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:04.439 about the Zelda games at this point that like, if people don't get excited 1320 01:23:04.439 --> 01:23:09.960 about new Zelda game right for right and wrong reasons. I disliked Twilight Princess 1321 01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:15.279 immensely, Like, did not care for that game at all. But it's 1322 01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:19.800 a great game, you guys, is it? It's great Users of game 1323 01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:25.119 facts dot Com collectively rated at at eight point eight. Well, they would 1324 01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:30.079 know best, as it turns out. But what I say about this is, 1325 01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:32.159 I I think if this game had come out instead of Twilight Princess, 1326 01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:36.880 especially to our understanding of how motion controls relate to traditional games, the entire 1327 01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:41.960 regeneration would have been completely different. Wow the bold words. Well that's if 1328 01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:44.159 they have started with this, if they if this is like, yeah, 1329 01:23:44.199 --> 01:23:46.560 I mean this is impossible because this is an evolutionary leap from what they learned 1330 01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:51.840 to to to the conclusion of the we cycle plus stuff in this motion plus 1331 01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:55.119 Okay, so that would have to be in place, yes, yeah, 1332 01:23:56.359 --> 01:24:00.760 five years of experimentation. It's yeah, it's not as you're just swapping it. 1333 01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:02.760 But I think, in hindsight, had this been Oh, this is 1334 01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:05.560 what motion controls can do for the games that you normally are used to playing 1335 01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:09.960 with their regular control. We're like the comment of this game is just astounding. 1336 01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:12.319 Like you, like, I know, you play those commercials and you 1337 01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:15.479 and you laugh when people are like jumping up and down they feel like they're 1338 01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:17.880 part with the sword one like this game feels like that. Like this game, 1339 01:24:18.319 --> 01:24:24.000 this game is all about the sword. Like the gadgets you used couch 1340 01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:29.960 I didn't in by families swing ok with me where that strap didn't wear the 1341 01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:33.119 strap? What thirty five hours no strap, no condom. Don't tell them 1342 01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:39.319 tendo pr They're gonna lose their ships. They get very specifically Princess was pre 1343 01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:44.880 condom. So every single time you go to and play their demo, they 1344 01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:48.760 make sure that you put the strap on. It's true every single time time. 1345 01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:53.840 Yeah, I've had a couple of times where they that I felt like 1346 01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:58.199 I was about to just get jumped at any moment. I actually reminded them 1347 01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:00.800 the one time that they didn't tell me because like you go to E three, 1348 01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:04.760 like the whoever's maiming the booths like they it has to be like the 1349 01:25:04.840 --> 01:25:08.159 first thing that they tell these people when they're training them, it's like, 1350 01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:10.560 you got to make sure these people put on these traps. They don't put 1351 01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:13.560 on these straps, and chaos will rain and goddamn it. Wipe down these 1352 01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:15.960 controllers when they're not using and the headphones too. Wipe down the headphones because 1353 01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:19.319 yeah, yeah, and they do it. Yeah, they keep those headphones 1354 01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:25.239 clean because good lord, it needs it. So what it give me? 1355 01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:27.960 The nutshell? You get a big wallet? Do you get a bigger wallet 1356 01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:30.359 to hold more route? Yeah? I had over a thousand rupees. Oh 1357 01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:32.319 yeah, there's nothing to spend them on, right, No plenty to spend 1358 01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:36.239 them on. This game. This game has a lot more. It has 1359 01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:40.119 more customizability, not enough that you feel like you have your own unique link. 1360 01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:43.079 It's more just going along an upgrade path that it's a lot of stuff. 1361 01:25:43.119 --> 01:25:45.560 You felt like you were just normally gotten into Dungeon, but now you're 1362 01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:47.319 grinding for it through You don't really grind through rubies. You you end up 1363 01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:49.960 finding enough rupees about the game to kind of get whatever you want. But 1364 01:25:50.119 --> 01:25:54.119 they have like metals, it's just an alternate path. Yeah, yeah, 1365 01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:56.279 Like they have metals. That like, you know, increasing amount of heart 1366 01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:58.840 containers do you find, like eventually I had two metals, which meant that 1367 01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:01.640 like I would never I never died to begin with, really, but you 1368 01:26:01.760 --> 01:26:04.680 just there was no way to even really get close to death because you would 1369 01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:09.079 hit any set of like grass or pots, and it's like hard twelve hard 1370 01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:15.319 floating everywhere. Uh, here's the weird question grass and yeah has the story 1371 01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:20.479 so like there's it's it's very interesting and I think in a good way, 1372 01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:24.560 whereas like Super Mario Galaxy got kind of weird when it was like Nintendo was 1373 01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:26.439 like all right, we're gonna we're gonna tell story, We're gonna get a 1374 01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:29.399 little deeper, and gay just got weird. Like I don't I don't know 1375 01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:34.319 if you guys remember that game story. Yeah, it's yeah the same is 1376 01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:38.920 the same way that I love MGS two and I'm just four. I love 1377 01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:41.880 the end of Super Mario Galaxy. Ye, and you'll read like interviews afterwards 1378 01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:45.920 from Meamode was like fucking no, what we'll read like you actually what were 1379 01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:49.960 we thinking? Like wipe that out of you? And so the metter am 1380 01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:54.920 also like it's a really weird, awkward storytelling the last Nintendo was like two 1381 01:26:54.920 --> 01:26:58.000 attempts at telling like these kind of like deeper stories I haven't really jelled with, 1382 01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:00.880 but but this one like yeah, they don't go too deep, but 1383 01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:06.600 they if you care about the Zelda fiction whatsoever, like play it is paramount 1384 01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:11.239 that you play this game. It casts the entire series in a totally different 1385 01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:15.560 super dark light. Wow uh and yeah, like wait, so you're the 1386 01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:19.239 bad guy. You're damn it. Thanks Jeff ruined it. That's why the 1387 01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:26.359 Boomerangs, why we can't have it breaks the boomerang at the end. Oh 1388 01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:31.800 man, spend the Hoomerangs will break. Spend the whole game repairing the boomerang. 1389 01:27:32.479 --> 01:27:34.960 You are the boomerang. I got the eight pieces of the boomerang and 1390 01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:44.479 then I fell. The reason the reason the Combats is great is because that 1391 01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:48.279 it It's very challenging and it forces you to change, like you can't waggle 1392 01:27:48.359 --> 01:27:51.760 Like if you waggle it, you will you will fail outright Like the game 1393 01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:55.000 doesn't mess around, like it will knock you to the ground. It will 1394 01:27:55.319 --> 01:28:01.000 hit you around Like there's one of the first bosses you have to change up 1395 01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:04.680 your own tells. So normally you just like whip out the we remote and 1396 01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:08.159 you're just like cold it in front of you and you're kind of moving around, 1397 01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:11.119 and he's got a hand out and if you keep it to the left 1398 01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:14.039 too long, he'll just grab it and throw your swords. Then you gotta 1399 01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:15.840 go, think, I go grab it. And so then you have to 1400 01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:17.359 keep it to the left to wait until you see his tell and then swing 1401 01:28:17.439 --> 01:28:19.960 it around to the right, or you keep and then you have to switch 1402 01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:24.439 it up because the game will just keep grabbing your sword and throwing it away. 1403 01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:28.760 So like the game is teaching you super early look like you you can't 1404 01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:31.319 just wave it around, like you can't win, Like there's no way to 1405 01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:34.880 win by waving it around. And so a lot of the enemies and I 1406 01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:38.039 think we when Brian and I were playing, like some of the early versions, 1407 01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:41.520 like it seemed like it might kind of like it does telegraph everything where 1408 01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:43.680 you have like skeletons that are holding swords that are like, you know, 1409 01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:48.840 right, but and a lot of the enemies are like that, especially early 1410 01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:54.039 on. But even even though they're so telegraphed, they start to get faster 1411 01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:57.479 and faster, and it requires you to remain engaged in the combat the entire 1412 01:28:57.600 --> 01:29:00.439 time, so as opposed to where you just kind of get this tarting it 1413 01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:01.600 down, you're like, all right, for this enemy, I flip back, 1414 01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:04.600 I hit a move on to the next one. Like every enemy, 1415 01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:08.920 you'll start to get down their patterns a little better. But you you have 1416 01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:11.600 to be paying attention to what they're doing. And there are some of the 1417 01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:15.800 enemies where they are just switching their movements like every fraction of a second. 1418 01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:20.840 Is it frustrating or no, It's like extremely satisfying because it doesn't the buttons 1419 01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:25.199 can't accomplish like you you just wouldn't get you know, some buttons have you 1420 01:29:25.239 --> 01:29:27.800 know, like sort of the uh, you know, the stronger you press 1421 01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:30.840 on it, the more you get out of it. But the motion here 1422 01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.640 adds to it so deep because if the motion plus stuff is actually working, 1423 01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:38.600 it's it's it's absolutely the reason to play the game, Like especially if like 1424 01:29:38.680 --> 01:29:41.960 sort of a Zelda thing throws you off. I mean, the game sticks 1425 01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:45.039 to the pretty traditionals all the structure, like it doesn't throw up anything there, 1426 01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:46.920 like it doesn't, you know. It's especially when we're sitting here talking 1427 01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:49.920 now. I brought Skyrim, like if you're if you're looking for like a 1428 01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:56.640 really like a lot of complex depth customization for your character or you know, 1429 01:29:56.800 --> 01:29:59.319 complex systems working them storms out in the world. Like that's that's just not 1430 01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:01.680 what this game and I don't. I don't the ways where it tries to 1431 01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:04.439 pretend to not be that kind of game is kind of where it bummed me 1432 01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:08.479 out. Like it's got an upgrade path that you can upgrade. You can't 1433 01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:11.520 upgrade your sword. That is all sort of story driven. The sword doesn't 1434 01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:14.680 really fundamentally change over the course of the game, but you can all upgrade 1435 01:30:14.680 --> 01:30:17.560 your shield, you can upgrade your arrows, but the game isn't that difficult, 1436 01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:21.640 so there's no reason to do the upgrades, especially because you have to 1437 01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:28.760 grind out catching butterflies and and the game. The game repeats the text menus 1438 01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:33.000 every time you pick something up, right, Yeah, like I've picked up 1439 01:30:33.319 --> 01:30:38.479 fifteen fairies or fifteen butterflies. Every time it's gonna tell me what that butterfly 1440 01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:40.840 is and he's gonna pick it up above his head. It reminds me of 1441 01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:44.600 like skinning animals and Red Dead. Yeah, every single time you skin an 1442 01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:46.760 animal, and it goes through the same like five to ten second animation leaning 1443 01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:51.560 down, and like at least at least that game had the exploit where you 1444 01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:56.000 can be on top of the horse, get on over on top of the 1445 01:30:56.039 --> 01:30:59.920 animal, you can skip the animation and all the all the dungeons are really 1446 01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:02.520 creative. There's some backtracking. There's a bad stealth section, especially compared to 1447 01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:10.000 I think Windwaker had a pretty terrific stealth section. And yeah, it's it's 1448 01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:12.880 too bad. This is coming as most people put away their weees. I 1449 01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:15.199 really get the sense that, like, almost nobody is gonna play this game 1450 01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:19.239 that doesn't it wasn't already set out. They're like, I'm gonna I'm gonna 1451 01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:21.920 play this. But like I would really really encourage people to try it out, 1452 01:31:23.279 --> 01:31:27.039 if only just to get a sense of like what most controls can do 1453 01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:29.840 for sort of the games that we normally just smash on the A button because 1454 01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:33.239 it does it's just really satisfying in a way that just buttons can't accomplish. 1455 01:31:33.319 --> 01:31:36.720 What was your what was your run time? About thirty five hours, so 1456 01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:41.720 it's a long game. There's probably about ten hours of fluff about three fourth 1457 01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:45.520 through where you can, like Annie's La game, you're like, I know 1458 01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:47.800 this, this should be the end, but you know there's three more things 1459 01:31:47.880 --> 01:31:51.520 I gotta gonna get. The plus side of that is that all the dungeons 1460 01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:56.600 are almost universally great, So even though you're going to just go get some 1461 01:31:57.359 --> 01:32:00.159 treasure at the end of some other dungeon, like the dungeon are really genuinely 1462 01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:04.439 fun to go through. Uh, And there's they really I mean, you've 1463 01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:08.359 got like a desert, a volcano, and a forest one. But they 1464 01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:12.399 do some really interesting things like time manipulation, where like you're using time orbs 1465 01:32:12.439 --> 01:32:15.520 to switch an entire dungeon through the past and present. There's one where to 1466 01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:17.520 slap a time orb on top of a boat, and so a desert in 1467 01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:23.800 real time switches between an ocean and a desert as you're progressing through it. 1468 01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:28.319 And it just does a lot. It's it really feels like this incredibly creative 1469 01:32:28.319 --> 01:32:32.760 team working and kind of really traditional structure. And I don't I don't know 1470 01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:36.119 Zelda fans like I would like to see that she was changed a little bit 1471 01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:40.479 more, if only because I think there are a lot more people out there 1472 01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:43.199 they would enjoy this type of game. They're sort of just hey, it's 1473 01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:45.439 a new Zelda game, you know, like it's I don't think it's as 1474 01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:47.800 much to the point of like a call of duty where you know exactly what 1475 01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:53.039 you're in for. And I mean the basic structure, Yeah, there's there 1476 01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:55.159 is a lot of time. Yeah, and and and I don't know, 1477 01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:58.439 maybe maybe that's this is just you know, Nintenna needs to create some new 1478 01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:02.279 character so that they can not man because because if only well because you look 1479 01:33:02.319 --> 01:33:04.479 at it and it's like they're kind of stuck being a rock and a hard 1480 01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:08.479 place, because if you change too much about Zelda, you're gonna get the 1481 01:33:08.680 --> 01:33:14.039 core fans upset about what they like about the series, and the people that 1482 01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:15.720 are sort of tired of those core mechanics or structure are kind of like, 1483 01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:17.520 well, you know, maybe it's just not for me anymore, and the 1484 01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:20.800 fans gonna have what they want. And I think there would be you know, 1485 01:33:21.039 --> 01:33:24.439 it's almost too bad this combat structure, which I really like, is 1486 01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:27.439 stuck in a Zelda game, because I think somewhere else where people might be 1487 01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:30.079 a little more open to I'll try this new Zelda game or new Nintendo game 1488 01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:34.159 with a new character. I'm sitting here envisioning Skyrim or game like it with 1489 01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:39.479 that kind of combat, and it's, yeah, that sounds amazing. Yes, 1490 01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:42.840 you know throw it, throw in like the Johnny Lee style headtracking while 1491 01:33:42.840 --> 01:33:45.960 you're at it. Yes, that game would be fucking amazing. Yeah, 1492 01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:47.760 like if the yeah, I mean because the comment's way better and Skyrim, 1493 01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:53.840 but the Skyward Swords combat is just engaging all all time. Like engaging such 1494 01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:56.039 a weird word, but like it is because like you can't play this game 1495 01:33:56.119 --> 01:33:58.920 tired. Like it's just you're not gonna enjoy yourself if you're gonna be getting 1496 01:33:59.720 --> 01:34:02.000 put around by the enemies. And it's just so when you beat a boss 1497 01:34:02.079 --> 01:34:04.760 and like the you know you'd swing it up and you swing it down like 1498 01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:08.760 you feel like a jackass, but it's it's you kind of feel like a 1499 01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:11.720 badass while you're doing it, and like that's like the biggest comment I can 1500 01:34:11.760 --> 01:34:14.560 give to the game is that it made I think the most controls in this 1501 01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:19.199 or as revolutionary to especially Zelda combat as Z Targeting was, Like it completely 1502 01:34:19.319 --> 01:34:23.680 changes everything. It's not going to change the landscape of video games like Z 1503 01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:28.560 Targeting did and like made three D action games makes sense for law developers, 1504 01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:30.760 but if they wanted to use most controls, like this is the game to 1505 01:34:30.840 --> 01:34:36.600 look at because it uses them really really well. It also sucks that the 1506 01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:40.479 game takes like four or five hours to really get going, which is also 1507 01:34:40.479 --> 01:34:44.319 a problem in Twilight Princess. Slow starter, it's really slow starter. It's 1508 01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:48.840 interesting test screet kind of slow starter about the Charter three, the sky and 1509 01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:51.600 stuff. Because the Elder Scrolls games used to have that kind of combat where 1510 01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:55.359 you're like you swipe left to to kind of you know, sweat, you 1511 01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:58.319 know, swipe you just you know, you push them out forward to kind 1512 01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:00.159 of poke and stuff like that. I feel like in each Elder Scrolls game 1513 01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:02.239 they've kind of lost some of that. This has just hit the button right 1514 01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:05.000 and swing pretty much, or hold the button for a power swine, but 1515 01:35:05.039 --> 01:35:09.479 it's like you don't hold forward, and I well, there are forward and 1516 01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:12.479 bad power strips and stuff like that. So you'll change a little a little 1517 01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:15.880 bit a little bit, but not like this where in Sky Resort you get 1518 01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:19.000 up, down and left right the four diagonals and you can poke and it 1519 01:35:19.079 --> 01:35:25.079 always seems like it's it's always I mean, it'll get a little bit mixed 1520 01:35:25.159 --> 01:35:29.600 up, like just you know technical jank, but I never was frustrated over 1521 01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:32.239 like yelling at the game for not doing what I wanted to do, and 1522 01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:36.680 it held up the entire game, and all of the bosses especially are totally 1523 01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:41.000 developed to push you to the limit to make to make sure you're doing that. 1524 01:35:41.119 --> 01:35:44.039 And that's why even though it wasn't a particularly difficult games, it was 1525 01:35:44.079 --> 01:35:47.119 really challenging because you're always having to pay attention to all the tells, and 1526 01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:49.359 in that sense, it was kind of more of a puzzle game than than 1527 01:35:49.399 --> 01:35:51.800 an action game in a lot of senses. And you know, there's one 1528 01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:56.880 there's one lizard enemy that when you it's got like these like stone arms, 1529 01:35:56.920 --> 01:36:00.479 and when you swipe it from when you start swiping, aathentic is into what 1530 01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:03.000 looks like it'll be a week stance, but it's just faking out that you're 1531 01:36:03.039 --> 01:36:05.760 supposed to hit it from the right when it's it's it's tell is like, 1532 01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:09.319 oh, you should hit me from the left, And so you're constantly having 1533 01:36:09.359 --> 01:36:12.960 to reevaluate, like which side is it faking you out on because you're supposed 1534 01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:15.239 to be hitting on the right. But it's everything about the visuals. It's 1535 01:36:15.239 --> 01:36:16.880 telling you to hit on the left, and so there's constantly just like this, 1536 01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:20.279 like forward and back with you playing with the game, trying to figure 1537 01:36:20.319 --> 01:36:24.640 out what the enemies are trying to trick you into doing or not doing. 1538 01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:28.520 How does it look gorgeous? Not for a single second was like, oh, 1539 01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:32.920 I wish this was in high definition. The game uses a yeah, 1540 01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:38.079 I mean yeah, that's but that's you know the I played thirty five hours 1541 01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:40.920 and you know, we sit here and complain about a little bit about like 1542 01:36:40.960 --> 01:36:43.520 how our three sixes and PS three's are aging, you know, like this 1543 01:36:43.680 --> 01:36:45.960 is like a ten year old piece of hardware at this point. And because 1544 01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:49.840 the game uses like an impressionistic art style that changes in real time, so 1545 01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:55.000 like Jaggy's and stuff like that are just not really a problem because it's kind 1546 01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:59.880 of it's playing with with how that is in relation to the other objects and 1547 01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:01.960 the environment. And see just don't and the innocent Atennal Games, the art 1548 01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:05.760 direction is just astounding and it's not it's not realistic, So there's no Uncanny 1549 01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:10.479 Valley, there's none of that weirdness. Like it's just really creative characters and 1550 01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:14.000 worlds and really colorful like so, which is the opposite of a lot of 1551 01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:16.560 games coming out this fall that I'm a huge fan of the art direction I 1552 01:37:16.680 --> 01:37:18.560 see, you know, on the characters or at least on a link, 1553 01:37:18.680 --> 01:37:23.119 Like there's some weird annular quality to the special takes some time, Like I 1554 01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:27.079 don't think. I don't think it looks like an elf man. You're terrible 1555 01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:32.039 too much time and sky because you as an imperial. I think of plenty 1556 01:37:32.079 --> 01:37:33.880 of the people in Sky. I don't want to play a game a guy 1557 01:37:33.960 --> 01:37:39.800 looks like an elfmer but ugly. But that's beside the point. Yeah, 1558 01:37:40.920 --> 01:37:43.680 I'm just saying there are many there are many varieties of link out there, 1559 01:37:43.720 --> 01:37:46.039 and this is not my favorite. Yeah, the art style grows on you 1560 01:37:46.359 --> 01:37:49.720 quite a bit, especially as you see more of the especially as like you 1561 01:37:49.760 --> 01:37:54.000 can with the camera, like play with the way that the art changes in 1562 01:37:54.079 --> 01:37:56.640 real time because it change is based on the distance and where objects are in 1563 01:37:56.760 --> 01:38:00.239 relation to you, so you can kind of mess around with that and it's 1564 01:38:00.239 --> 01:38:02.960 really neat. It's just it's worth playing, you know. I had some 1565 01:38:03.039 --> 01:38:05.000 problems with it, and I'm kind of getting tired of this old structure. 1566 01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:09.560 But I think fans especially are gonna flip for it's like if you're if you, 1567 01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:12.720 if you, if you knew we were going into this, probably gonna 1568 01:38:12.760 --> 01:38:15.000 love it. You're gonna love it like a lot, Like it's it's a 1569 01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:17.720 really great sell the game. And then after this, pack up your Wii. 1570 01:38:18.520 --> 01:38:21.600 Yeah, well there's still Rhythm Heaven. Yeah, Rhythm Heaven. That's 1571 01:38:21.720 --> 01:38:27.039 that's the last last game on that. Yeah. No, damn it, 1572 01:38:27.680 --> 01:38:30.520 damn it never coming out here. No, no, they it's they was 1573 01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:35.439 at it was, it was announced, keep telling herself it's gonna happen. 1574 01:38:38.119 --> 01:38:41.680 So I still think they're going to release those RPGs eventually too, So you 1575 01:38:41.720 --> 01:38:44.800 know Blade, Yeah, just really last minute, like okay, fine, 1576 01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:47.800 we'll just like we'll sell them through mail order because retail doesn't want them or 1577 01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:51.520 something like that. I see that as like when they getting a closer to 1578 01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:55.039 announcing we you next year, they say, hey, look here's our last 1579 01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:57.960 good will gesture before we move into the next council. We have a copy 1580 01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:00.720 of e bladerun her somewhere. Sam and played it. He's got one around 1581 01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:06.039 there somewhere, So Patrick, anything else you were just in the Rayman origins 1582 01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:09.760 the game that if you don't play, then I have less respect for you 1583 01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:11.800 as a human being. I played a little bit, Jeff, you and 1584 01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:15.359 I played. We did and I played some of it separately. Play a 1585 01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:17.560 great looking game. Oh my god, a great looking game. So you 1586 01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:20.119 guys, guys played some co op. You Patrick, you played it. 1587 01:39:20.119 --> 01:39:24.239 I haven't played a boy myself by yourself. Yeah, it's just as well 1588 01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:27.479 single player game. Alex. Alex's review said co op is the way to 1589 01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:30.560 play. It seems fun, but it doesn't seem like what we played a 1590 01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:33.319 cop. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of things that you couldn't do 1591 01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:36.520 on your own, right. It's not necessarily vital, but you know, 1592 01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:40.840 you got people around them. He made it sound like it was more with 1593 01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:44.279 the New Super Mario Brothers style of just chaos. Yeah, because when you 1594 01:39:44.479 --> 01:39:46.479 when you die, you blow up like a bubble, just like New Super 1595 01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:50.520 Mario brother But it's not as antagonistic because there isn't that jump dynamic like a 1596 01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:53.920 New Super Mario Brothers. You could jump on top of each other, so 1597 01:39:55.239 --> 01:39:58.239 I could jump and then you would jump off of me, or I could 1598 01:39:58.279 --> 01:40:00.439 grab you and throw you like instead I could just punch you. Yeah, 1599 01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:05.439 that's like more of a stunt move so you can you can still play it 1600 01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:10.319 cooperatively like a dick if you want to, but not, I don't think 1601 01:40:10.359 --> 01:40:12.840 to the same extremity. And if you want to get all the metals, 1602 01:40:13.479 --> 01:40:15.520 uh, and that's what kind of need to get all the secret stuff. 1603 01:40:15.800 --> 01:40:18.880 You know, that's gonna be tougher with with multiple people because you'll get like 1604 01:40:19.399 --> 01:40:23.399 when you get like the red what do they call those things, elect electro 1605 01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:30.159 elect pearl dudes. Like anyway, like like you'll collect multiplier. Yeah, 1606 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:32.359 you'll collect multipliers, and with multiple people, you're not going to be able 1607 01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:35.920 to get the multipliers probably probably is accurately. But how does it flow? 1608 01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:39.760 Like is there a hub system that all the levels spawn off of. Yeah, 1609 01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:44.119 it's a very traditional like the top down, hit right, go to 1610 01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:49.239 the next one. You have like what like three three hidden secret boxes of 1611 01:40:49.399 --> 01:40:55.239 those dudes you have to find. There's uh two that are based on how 1612 01:40:55.279 --> 01:40:59.079 many of the the yellow creatures you collect, and then there's one based on 1613 01:40:59.239 --> 01:41:01.760 how fast to go through the level. Okay, time travel one. Yeah, 1614 01:41:02.640 --> 01:41:04.880 it's it's a good it's a great playing platform, right, and it's 1615 01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:10.760 a it's gorgeous and like dropping it. Why is this game coming out this 1616 01:41:10.920 --> 01:41:15.399 week, like what and why? Also like like, regardless of how thank 1617 01:41:15.439 --> 01:41:18.000 you, you'd be soft, but fuck you. It's a It's a gorgeous 1618 01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:20.600 looking two D game, probably one of the best looking two D games I've 1619 01:41:20.600 --> 01:41:26.960 seen in years. But I think that's still kind of a hard sell for 1620 01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:30.640 a sixty dollars retail game for some people. If there's a lot of content 1621 01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:32.760 to this one. So I think if you're if if that, like if 1622 01:41:32.760 --> 01:41:35.920 you love two D platformers, and like you're kind of worried, like I'm 1623 01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:41.359 gonna blow through this in an afternoon, like there is from the outset what 1624 01:41:41.479 --> 01:41:45.520 you think is the game. There is a bunch more to it. It's 1625 01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:48.439 not forty, it's sixty sixty. It's it's if you like these kind of 1626 01:41:48.479 --> 01:41:50.880 games, it's you know, having played a couple of hours and it's well 1627 01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:54.840 worth it, Like it's plus this is man, it's one of those games 1628 01:41:54.960 --> 01:41:57.119 like I feel like you just gotta go out and support because you saw this 1629 01:41:57.119 --> 01:42:00.319 isn't going to do anything for it, Like I'm glad. I don't know 1630 01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:02.279 exists, I don't know what Ubisoft things of ray Man. I feel like 1631 01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:12.239 Yousoft is not really this game was Episodica care about ray Man? Well, 1632 01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:15.359 they got them sakes, they got them rabbits. They did well. They 1633 01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:17.880 that's the problem. Sound made them those rabbits and then they just said eggs. 1634 01:42:18.079 --> 01:42:24.760 Yeah, well the team they ran the rabbits into the ground. Continue 1635 01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:28.760 to do so, continue to run the rabbits into the ground and kicking you 1636 01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:30.840 guys. They are fine. There are no rabbits in this game. Uh 1637 01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:35.039 where they can't unlock rabbit I hope not. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 1638 01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:39.920 try to unlock Sam Fisher can of play is et ceo. Yes, i'd 1639 01:42:39.920 --> 01:42:45.399 actually all you play rewards. I like the rabbits. I like the rabbits, 1640 01:42:45.640 --> 01:42:50.520 but I'm saying I'm saying they've they've run that. Yeah, they've They've 1641 01:42:50.560 --> 01:42:54.800 gotten everything that they can out of the rabbits. All those mini games, 1642 01:42:55.119 --> 01:42:59.319 too many mini games, too many. The rabbits are instide that we remote 1643 01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:02.359 you guys. That was cute. That was awa again. Rabbits go home, 1644 01:43:03.279 --> 01:43:09.600 brilliant. I'd totally play as a rabbit if it were in Raymond Origins. 1645 01:43:10.079 --> 01:43:14.359 I feel like Michelan's almost have like is like just disgusted with those creatures 1646 01:43:14.399 --> 01:43:16.000 at this point, like he made this, made this giant money maker, 1647 01:43:16.039 --> 01:43:19.000 and then he just goes back to his dark basement of a studio where he 1648 01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:23.560 gets to make his he gets to make his vanity projects. Where Keith claiming 1649 01:43:23.720 --> 01:43:26.640 beyond, He's like, like, what putting money away into a private offshore 1650 01:43:26.680 --> 01:43:29.840 account to make beyond? Good and Evil two keep saying. They keep saying, 1651 01:43:29.880 --> 01:43:32.800 you'll get to make us some damy show someday that will have fun again. 1652 01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:39.560 Uh yeah, I know, Raymond Origins looks looks crazy good. Yeah, 1653 01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:45.199 it's it's fat, cannot recommended enough. M hmm. I wonder well 1654 01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:47.399 if it's like most movie soft games, if there is one, it'll be 1655 01:43:47.560 --> 01:43:54.800 a few weeks later and poor. Yeah, people scream. The Assassin's Creed 1656 01:43:54.840 --> 01:43:58.319 ports are always usually pretty good. They're just kind of aft on the DRM 1657 01:43:58.439 --> 01:44:01.199 side, Like the ports themselves, they are usually pretty vin Revelations got pushed 1658 01:44:01.239 --> 01:44:04.520 on the PCD. Yah, I supposedly he's gonna have not have dr him 1659 01:44:04.640 --> 01:44:09.359 or he's gonna have the just the one time authorization. So but I expect 1660 01:44:09.399 --> 01:44:15.039 them to go back on that exactly. So that's like they usually they usually 1661 01:44:15.119 --> 01:44:19.800 say that to just get people to buy the game, and and then it's 1662 01:44:19.920 --> 01:44:27.359 changed. Yeah. Poor guess, so poor all of us. It's weird. 1663 01:44:28.039 --> 01:44:30.279 Jeff, Hi, what's up with you to Speed the Run? Yeah, 1664 01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:33.920 it's it's not it's not a good game. Okay, it's okay, 1665 01:44:34.159 --> 01:44:39.079 okay, even not great. It's not not even good. It's uh, 1666 01:44:39.159 --> 01:44:45.119 it's it's got some pretty bad things in it. Yeah, it's a really 1667 01:44:45.479 --> 01:44:48.439 great idea, the idea of a cross country drive and designing tracks that are 1668 01:44:48.479 --> 01:44:51.600 meant to kind of evoke different areas. You see some really cool stuff. 1669 01:44:51.640 --> 01:44:55.039 Did you wait for the out ticks in the credits, because that's kind of 1670 01:44:55.039 --> 01:44:57.800 the funniest part. See, I'm I'm a stage ten right now, so 1671 01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:00.359 I'm gonna finish. It's also the a fake what do you mean, because 1672 01:45:00.399 --> 01:45:06.000 that takes those are so staged, all these rosary bleeds. Yeah, those 1673 01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:11.920 fucking bleeds. It's worth it's worth highlighting that you've had the game in your 1674 01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:14.840 hand for like maybe not even twenty four hours at this point, and you 1675 01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:16.159 have just said that you are at the end of the game. Yeah, 1676 01:45:16.319 --> 01:45:21.479 it's it's The run itself is very short. It's ten stages with multiple tracks 1677 01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:26.239 per stage, and you're driving cross country obviously not in real time, and 1678 01:45:27.159 --> 01:45:30.840 the leaderboard time you'll have at the end of that will will fall somewhere around 1679 01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:35.119 the two hour mark. I'm looking to clock in somewhere around two five to 1680 01:45:35.359 --> 01:45:39.760 ten, I think, right, to guess. But you know that there 1681 01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:43.720 are menus and cut scenes and you have to retry stuff and reset and and 1682 01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:46.319 that's not to say it's a two hour game, but it's it's not long. 1683 01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:50.079 The run, the main thing that they've been selling this game as is 1684 01:45:51.479 --> 01:45:58.479 really short. And that's, uh, well, that would be disappointing if 1685 01:45:58.479 --> 01:46:00.399 the game itself was better, I guess, But it's it's there's a whole 1686 01:46:00.439 --> 01:46:03.800 another Challenge series mode that you unlock, and that's another single player stuff, 1687 01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:12.880 and then there's there's online as well. It's it's it's got some some real 1688 01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:17.000 problems with uh, like kind of what you can and can't hit when it 1689 01:46:17.039 --> 01:46:20.800 will reset you automatically, and when you get to keep driving, like there'll 1690 01:46:20.800 --> 01:46:24.600 be shortcuts in levels where you're driving off road, but if you get a 1691 01:46:24.640 --> 01:46:29.640 little two off road by about five feet out of that shortcut, it just 1692 01:46:29.720 --> 01:46:33.439 resets you. Uh And and that's incredibly frustrating. Like you see rubber band 1693 01:46:33.479 --> 01:46:38.439 Ai all over the place. The handling model is a little weird. It's 1694 01:46:38.560 --> 01:46:45.239 a a great idea though, either like you know, it's it's funny to 1695 01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:49.960 think, like how worried or or how like disdainful. I looked at this 1696 01:46:50.119 --> 01:46:54.079 game with all of it's out of the car stuff that they were showing back 1697 01:46:54.119 --> 01:46:56.640 at E three. That is the least of this game's issues. Like the 1698 01:46:56.880 --> 01:46:59.479 out of the car stuff, It's barely any of it. It's fine. 1699 01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:02.640 They're just dumb quick time events like they'd probably better just to watch them because 1700 01:47:02.680 --> 01:47:08.760 instead of watching this man jump around and beat up cops, you're instead staring 1701 01:47:08.760 --> 01:47:11.079 at the bottom of the screen waiting for the next button prop to appear. 1702 01:47:11.199 --> 01:47:15.720 So I bet the animators that did all that, like some like did pretty 1703 01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:20.600 nice work building these intense looking events are probably pretty bummed because no one's ever 1704 01:47:20.640 --> 01:47:23.920 going to see them because instead you're staring at the bottom, going, oh, 1705 01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:27.600 I need to hammer on a now, just just not playing to the 1706 01:47:27.680 --> 01:47:30.520 strength of that stuff. I mean, I guess that's you could you could 1707 01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:32.079 levy that complain at every quick time event ever, I guess, but it's 1708 01:47:32.359 --> 01:47:39.640 it's silly to you. One is some kind of like Left for Dead style 1709 01:47:40.079 --> 01:47:44.279 cross country. Each map is a leg of this thing. Five six, 1710 01:47:44.399 --> 01:47:48.159 seven dudes are Cannonball running from this map. Yeah, and sure at the 1711 01:47:48.279 --> 01:47:51.439 end is a FMV from Cannonball right exactly, yeah, right at the game. 1712 01:47:51.479 --> 01:47:55.479 If they had actually just goneen licensed Cannonball Run and made like we're gonna 1713 01:47:55.520 --> 01:47:59.239 make a comedy based need for speed game, it'd be so much more interesting 1714 01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:02.640 because the story is basically non existent. It's just like there's like two sentences 1715 01:48:02.720 --> 01:48:08.960 up front and says Jack crossed the mob and now they want him. He 1716 01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:13.960 can drive good. Christina Hendricks, Yeah, and then Christina Hendricks and that's 1717 01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:17.479 Jack's friends from the back in the old days on the block. She's got 1718 01:48:17.560 --> 01:48:21.239 the money to get Jack into this race and solve the mob problems, but 1719 01:48:21.399 --> 01:48:26.399 only if he wins. And they introduce you to name the characters along the 1720 01:48:26.439 --> 01:48:29.279 way that you have to beat in kind of one off races, but they 1721 01:48:29.279 --> 01:48:32.159 don't speak or they aren't characters. It's just like here's a picture of a 1722 01:48:32.199 --> 01:48:38.319 guy and this is like this lady grew up rich and her friend it was 1723 01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:45.279 the rich family's mechanics daughter. Or these guys race as a pack and they 1724 01:48:45.319 --> 01:48:51.920 all have el Caminos really pack Elko's out there. Yeah, yeah, they're 1725 01:48:53.000 --> 01:49:00.560 they're they're al Caminos in this game now Ferres. Yeah. The two girls 1726 01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:06.800 that the rich girl and the mechanics daughter are like based on sports illustrated models, 1727 01:49:06.840 --> 01:49:11.399 Like they put out a release of some some months ago. We got 1728 01:49:11.479 --> 01:49:15.000 these these girls. They're in they're in it for a cut scene for about 1729 01:49:15.199 --> 01:49:18.399 fifteen seconds. It's just that one at the gas station, unless unless theyre 1730 01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:21.800 at the very end of the game, I don't know, wait for the 1731 01:49:21.880 --> 01:49:25.560 credits. Yeah, and you know, so they have to gin up a 1732 01:49:25.600 --> 01:49:28.760 lot of stuff to to make to make a game out of this concept. 1733 01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:31.319 It's not just you know, you start in like two hundredth place or or 1734 01:49:31.319 --> 01:49:33.399 thereabouts, and you have to be in first place by the time you get 1735 01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:36.520 to the end. That's you know, that's the main goal they set for 1736 01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:41.880 you. But then it's like Jack, we need to be in one hundred 1737 01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:45.199 and fiftieth place by the time we get to Vegas or else we're out, 1738 01:49:45.439 --> 01:49:48.920 which is not a rule of the race. It's just they need to give 1739 01:49:48.920 --> 01:49:50.560 you a goal. They need to give you some kind of goal. So 1740 01:49:50.640 --> 01:49:54.399 we need to be in fifty fiftieth place by the time we hit Chicago, 1741 01:49:56.079 --> 01:49:58.840 or we won't make it, like I guess like, but you know, 1742 01:49:59.119 --> 01:50:01.880 so then each of these races you end up in in situations where it's like, 1743 01:50:02.039 --> 01:50:05.239 there are nine people here that you have to pass before the end of 1744 01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:08.680 the track, and you have to finish first, and if you don't, 1745 01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:11.840 it's not like you continue to the next stage in a worse place. It's 1746 01:50:11.920 --> 01:50:15.159 you redo that stage or you or you redo that that section of that stage 1747 01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:19.399 rather, so you know, they've they've got that, They've got some moments 1748 01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:21.880 where it's like you need to make up time and there are no other racers 1749 01:50:21.960 --> 01:50:25.680 there. It's just a checkpoint race. And then some of them cops, 1750 01:50:25.720 --> 01:50:29.359 some of them don't. The cops. Stuff's kind of bad because they went 1751 01:50:29.399 --> 01:50:32.039 ahead and and and it's some of the same stuff with the off road stuff, 1752 01:50:32.039 --> 01:50:35.319 where sometimes you wreck, sometimes you you go through stuff. It's it's 1753 01:50:35.359 --> 01:50:41.159 just really inconsistent about that stuff, especially when you take into account the past 1754 01:50:41.239 --> 01:50:45.640 history of need for speed where when roadblocks happened, you aimed for the back 1755 01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:48.199 of the cop cars. No, you wreck, you have to reset. 1756 01:50:48.359 --> 01:50:50.279 If you do that here, you have to avoid them entirely. You have 1757 01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:54.840 to avoid them or hit them slow enough that it doesn't you know that you 1758 01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:59.600 have a larger problem if you're if you're going that slow. This kind of 1759 01:50:59.640 --> 01:51:02.720 sounds like in the pre production they had this great idea and then when it 1760 01:51:02.800 --> 01:51:06.960 came to turning this into a game, like a lot of roadblocks in in 1761 01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:12.319 terms of stretching out making this last very long. I guess yeah. I 1762 01:51:12.680 --> 01:51:15.560 like the wet to you know, it's yeah, and and there's some great 1763 01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:19.880 looking stuff like through South Dakota there's some like really terrific like thunder and lightning 1764 01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:24.520 effects and stuff and what's right frost By right too? Yeah, I mean 1765 01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:28.800 it looks looks pretty some pretty good. Some of the textures look awful, 1766 01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:30.399 but yes, it seems some of the road textures, like the way they 1767 01:51:30.479 --> 01:51:33.760 layer them, they look kind of off, like they just don't line up 1768 01:51:34.279 --> 01:51:39.359 some of it. Some of it looks looks really weird. And you know, 1769 01:51:39.439 --> 01:51:42.319 the online is just kind of like this playlist based stuff of that it'll 1770 01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:46.039 throw you into kind of set tracks with set styles of cars as you pick 1771 01:51:46.119 --> 01:51:49.760 the different playlists and match up against players, and you know, you're kind 1772 01:51:49.760 --> 01:51:54.279 of leveling up along the way and unlocking you know, bigger Nitris and you 1773 01:51:54.359 --> 01:51:59.720 know, more cars and emblems and stuff like that, and you're switching cars 1774 01:51:59.760 --> 01:52:02.720 mad race. Yes, yeah, through throughout the run there will be gas 1775 01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:08.319 stations you pull off the road and switch cars there. But also as a 1776 01:52:08.399 --> 01:52:12.000 part of the storyline to unlock the next tier of faster cars, they have 1777 01:52:12.119 --> 01:52:15.760 moments where you're just like, this car won't go anymore, so we need 1778 01:52:15.840 --> 01:52:20.279 to have this interactive cut scene where I'm going to steal another car and they 1779 01:52:20.359 --> 01:52:24.520 kind of go from there. It's it's a you know, just a fantastic 1780 01:52:24.640 --> 01:52:28.479 idea though, you know, the cross country race and rendering these different areas 1781 01:52:28.520 --> 01:52:31.319 of the country and and you know they do well with that. You know 1782 01:52:31.479 --> 01:52:34.279 that the cities are basically like you start in San Francisco, then you go 1783 01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:36.960 to Vegas, then you go to Chicago, then you go to New York. 1784 01:52:38.840 --> 01:52:41.479 And I'm just outside of New York, but I assume there'll be plenty 1785 01:52:41.479 --> 01:52:44.319 of city sequences as you kind of get to Manhattan for the for the big 1786 01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:47.600 finish. But then the rest of it is just like open roads and and 1787 01:52:47.720 --> 01:52:51.000 you know, you go through Colorado and this all these icy roads and hairpin 1788 01:52:51.159 --> 01:52:56.199 turns, and you're driving through uh, you know, mountain ranges where they're 1789 01:52:56.319 --> 01:53:00.279 exploding parts of the mountain to avoid avalanches. So you're kind of racing these 1790 01:53:00.319 --> 01:53:04.880 avalanches and like some some cool dynamic stuff and they've created different types of events 1791 01:53:04.960 --> 01:53:11.119 that kind of keep it from getting totally stale. But you know, just 1792 01:53:11.239 --> 01:53:14.640 like the handling just doesn't doesn't hold up. It's end of the bar again, 1793 01:53:14.800 --> 01:53:19.800 and the inconsistency with the resets and rex and stuff is is really frustrating 1794 01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:24.600 and kind of drags it down to what's so far. It feels like a 1795 01:53:24.640 --> 01:53:28.720 pretty middling like just it's kind of a mediocre experience overall, Like there's there 1796 01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:30.319 there are things that I like about it. Part of me if you said 1797 01:53:30.319 --> 01:53:32.640 this already, But how's the frame rate? It's okay, Yeah, it's 1798 01:53:32.640 --> 01:53:35.800 fine, I hear it's I haven't checked it out for myself, but supposedly 1799 01:53:35.840 --> 01:53:40.520 the PC version is locked at thirty, which is disappointing because Hot Pursuit was 1800 01:53:40.600 --> 01:53:45.239 awesome on the PC and you're all autologued up right, Yeah, it's got 1801 01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:48.239 autologue. So kind of as I complete these stages, it's it's keeping time 1802 01:53:49.319 --> 01:53:53.159 along the way. There and then through the Challenge series, which is the 1803 01:53:53.199 --> 01:53:57.319 other single player mode. They have individual leaderboards there too, so you know 1804 01:53:57.359 --> 01:54:00.760 they'll recommend racist to you that way if you want to do it. But 1805 01:54:00.960 --> 01:54:06.239 I'm not feeling the pull to to want to revisit any of this stuffs as 1806 01:54:06.279 --> 01:54:10.600 I'm going through it. It's fine, but it's not like Hot Pursuit, 1807 01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:13.199 where you know some of those events you want to go back to, and 1808 01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:15.600 like, you know that just the driving itself, the core of it was, 1809 01:54:15.800 --> 01:54:18.199 was good enough to to make it worth, you know, getting into 1810 01:54:18.199 --> 01:54:21.760 these leaderboard challenges. I just don't think that there'll be an interest there from 1811 01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:28.199 from as many players this time around. Jeff, anything else. I finished 1812 01:54:28.199 --> 01:54:33.239 Saints Row. It's awesome. Should you should play Saints Row? I So 1813 01:54:33.600 --> 01:54:39.960 here's what happened. I played through Saints Row, and then, knowing that 1814 01:54:40.079 --> 01:54:42.479 the copy that I was playing should probably come back into the office of the 1815 01:54:42.520 --> 01:54:45.520 rest, you could play Saints Row. I pre ordered a copy of Saints 1816 01:54:45.680 --> 01:54:47.199 Row or the other platform. Yeah, I did. Yeah, so I 1817 01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:49.159 played. I finished a little p s three and then I was like, 1818 01:54:50.039 --> 01:54:56.399 I bought a copy on on three sixty, and uh, there are things 1819 01:54:56.640 --> 01:55:00.199 in that game that are some of the most incredible things things from a video 1820 01:55:00.319 --> 01:55:05.359 game, like just the they first, as much as we talked about it 1821 01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:10.840 previously about you know, some of the wild ship in that game, some 1822 01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:15.079 of the stuff that happens a late game in there is astounding. It is, 1823 01:55:15.399 --> 01:55:19.680 let's say, one of the best wrestling games th HQ has ever produced. 1824 01:55:20.199 --> 01:55:26.319 What well be fair that's yeah, that is a that is a low 1825 01:55:26.399 --> 01:55:30.520 bar the fact that you can even yeah, I would say it's that in 1826 01:55:30.640 --> 01:55:33.880 like WW All Stars, Yeah, exactly, exactly. All Stars is a 1827 01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:39.479 better wrestling game than Saints Rows fairly, but that's it. But that's it. 1828 01:55:40.520 --> 01:55:44.319 It's WW All Stars and then Saints Saints Row. Yeah, and then 1829 01:55:44.399 --> 01:55:49.279 all that other bullshit. Yeah, you should be ashamed. Used to say 1830 01:55:49.279 --> 01:55:51.760 they didn't just make that part of the game, right, that's true. 1831 01:55:51.920 --> 01:55:55.560 Yeah, No, they motion capped actual wrestlers and stuff, like there are 1832 01:55:55.600 --> 01:55:58.119 wrestlers in the credits for that game and stuff, because as a whole there's 1833 01:55:58.119 --> 01:56:01.560 a whole wrestler gang. The doors is just one of the gangs. You 1834 01:56:01.760 --> 01:56:06.399 wrestle horse. There are no horses to be to do any horsemoke cap. 1835 01:56:06.800 --> 01:56:13.920 No, no, no horsemoke cap. Thankfully, horse cap. That sounds 1836 01:56:14.439 --> 01:56:17.319 yeah, it's uh. I mean, it's it's a shame that there don't 1837 01:56:17.359 --> 01:56:20.000 say anything else about it. I tell you want to. I want to 1838 01:56:20.079 --> 01:56:24.279 keep refresh. I feel like like you are, you were dancing, you 1839 01:56:24.359 --> 01:56:26.960 were dancing around it in such a way that I know that seeing it for 1840 01:56:27.039 --> 01:56:30.399 myself for the first time is how I need to experience it. You guys 1841 01:56:30.439 --> 01:56:32.359 should play Saints Bro all right, I don't play Sins. All will be 1842 01:56:32.479 --> 01:56:36.680 revealed, okay, Saints Row revelations. I don't. I don't love the 1843 01:56:36.720 --> 01:56:40.840 side stuff. I still don't, So you can kind of just stick the 1844 01:56:40.880 --> 01:56:44.119 story and get the yeah, get the fun. Yeah, and that'll you 1845 01:56:44.159 --> 01:56:45.399 know, maybe like eight hours or something like that, if I had to 1846 01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:54.479 guess. But it's, uh, this definitely sounds like a video fighting Yes. 1847 01:56:54.720 --> 01:56:59.920 Yes, the third is a video game like Gleefully Yeah. Yeah, 1848 01:57:00.119 --> 01:57:02.560 every step of the way. They're just like an embracement of what's the dumbest 1849 01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:08.119 thing we could do here? That embraced that, That just further embraces it's 1850 01:57:08.279 --> 01:57:13.399 video gameness and adds no true real grit to it. I'm into that. 1851 01:57:13.560 --> 01:57:16.319 It's I think there there's the design doc for this game was titled fuck it. 1852 01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:23.319 Yeah basically, yeah, yeah, that sounds about right. And and 1853 01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:29.560 I just you know, gotta give credit to th HQ for giving them this 1854 01:57:29.760 --> 01:57:32.880 much rope and it's and it sounds like they just are going to give them 1855 01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:38.439 more based on comments from THHQ, already good great, Like whoever made the 1856 01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:45.880 decision, he already said, yeah Forrest coming, it's gonna be weirder great 1857 01:57:45.960 --> 01:57:51.319 because the weirdness that the things that are you should play sat so weird, 1858 01:57:51.720 --> 01:57:56.359 weird. That's a weird game. It's so weird and the things that see 1859 01:57:56.399 --> 01:57:59.720 that that's what makes me excited to play it. Yeah, that's what it's 1860 01:57:59.760 --> 01:58:03.520 just hearing. That's what should is the weirdness, Like you know, it's 1861 01:58:03.600 --> 01:58:08.399 it's an overworld criminal action game. Like at a certain point there are things 1862 01:58:08.439 --> 01:58:12.199 about it that you kind of know how it's gonna handle and how it's gonna 1863 01:58:12.199 --> 01:58:15.279 play out. Played one of those in a while, but I don't know, 1864 01:58:15.319 --> 01:58:16.760 I mean this the thing is like it's still it's fine, but it's 1865 01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:20.960 the weirdness of it that makes it special. Like that's the thing that that's 1866 01:58:21.159 --> 01:58:27.239 so crazy about that the secret sauce m Yeah, Brad, what's what's the 1867 01:58:27.399 --> 01:58:36.439 secret sauce in Halo Jumping? Definitely not that. Is it handguns? Yeah? 1868 01:58:36.439 --> 01:58:40.479 I would say it's assumed pistol. Yeah, that you can hit shotguns. 1869 01:58:40.800 --> 01:58:43.079 That pistol. Man, it's a great pistols. So glad it's back. 1870 01:58:43.560 --> 01:58:49.000 Really torn on that game. So Halo Combat Combat Evolved Anniversary out this 1871 01:58:49.079 --> 01:58:51.439 week on three sixty. I'm having a lot of fun with that game, 1872 01:58:53.560 --> 01:58:57.359 but it also feels like it's repeatedly going out of its way to prevent me 1873 01:58:57.479 --> 01:59:01.039 from having fun with it. The power brick out of his three sixty Okay, 1874 01:59:01.479 --> 01:59:04.760 just threw it out. I'll just start with that. Apparently this is 1875 01:59:04.840 --> 01:59:08.800 something that has been in effect in every Halo game ever, and I've never 1876 01:59:08.920 --> 01:59:12.119 run up against it before. Yeah, that that's my understanding. I started. 1877 01:59:12.239 --> 01:59:14.359 I haven't checked it on every game, but yeah I started No no, 1878 01:59:14.439 --> 01:59:16.119 because I started bishing about it on Twitter in reference to this game, 1879 01:59:16.159 --> 01:59:18.399 and I had people chiming in, going like, man, that totally happened 1880 01:59:18.399 --> 01:59:21.840 to me in odst your reach and it fucking sucks. The thing about it 1881 01:59:21.960 --> 01:59:26.199 is that the game does not make hard savable checkpoints unless you quit out, 1882 01:59:26.920 --> 01:59:30.760 so you play and people were saying, like, dude, I played through 1883 01:59:30.840 --> 01:59:33.800 most of ODST and this happened. If you start a session in the campaign, 1884 01:59:34.319 --> 01:59:38.199 play for like X number of hours, never quit out, and do 1885 01:59:38.319 --> 01:59:42.119 like save and quit, so like a lock in that save, anything happens, 1886 01:59:42.199 --> 01:59:44.319 the game locks up, like power goes out, whatever, Like you 1887 01:59:44.439 --> 01:59:47.880 lose everything since you started playing there, So it's not creating like permanent auto 1888 01:59:47.920 --> 01:59:53.439 saves until you checkpoint until you manually quit out. Right, So if I 1889 01:59:53.520 --> 01:59:56.359 start at the beginning of level two and play all day and finish the game, 1890 01:59:56.399 --> 01:59:59.680 but during the final cut scene the power goes out, did you start 1891 01:59:59.720 --> 02:00:01.239 the game again? You're safe. We'll be back at level two and you 1892 02:00:01.279 --> 02:00:04.720 won't have access to any of those subsequent levels. So so how much progress 1893 02:00:04.760 --> 02:00:09.680 did you happen? To me? Twice? Yesterday? I was playing on 1894 02:00:09.760 --> 02:00:12.479 Heroic, you know, which is not certainly not impossible, but like it's 1895 02:00:12.600 --> 02:00:15.319 you know, it's a little more time consuming. You gotta take your time 1896 02:00:15.399 --> 02:00:16.800 and be a little more challenge. Yeah, you know, you have to 1897 02:00:16.840 --> 02:00:19.159 think about it. You'll die. You gotta conserve, ammo. You gotta 1898 02:00:19.239 --> 02:00:24.920 like not just rush into the fray. So I got two thirds of the 1899 02:00:24.960 --> 02:00:28.880 way through truth Reconciliation, which is the third level of the game. People 1900 02:00:28.920 --> 02:00:31.720 probably remember it, but yeah, I got like an hour into that level 1901 02:00:31.800 --> 02:00:35.159 and the game froze up on me, so I had restarted the Xbox and 1902 02:00:35.199 --> 02:00:38.880 then boom, I have to do that whole level over again. So I 1903 02:00:38.960 --> 02:00:42.479 did the entire level over again, and during the cut scene at the end 1904 02:00:42.520 --> 02:00:44.439 of the fucking level, I was like, oh man, that power brick 1905 02:00:44.520 --> 02:00:46.359 is is in the way. I'm gonna kick it back, and the fucking 1906 02:00:46.439 --> 02:00:50.359 table came out of the power during the cut scene. So I gotta do 1907 02:00:50.439 --> 02:00:54.359 that level again. I'm sure you did it really great the third time. 1908 02:00:54.520 --> 02:00:57.399 Yeah. Yeah, I pretty much breezed through it after that. But I 1909 02:00:57.439 --> 02:00:59.479 mean, yeah, that's not unique to this Halo game. It's just the 1910 02:00:59.520 --> 02:01:01.880 first time I've seen it. I didn't even know that. I've never had 1911 02:01:01.960 --> 02:01:04.359 no idea run into I have no idea. I've never had that problem before. 1912 02:01:04.439 --> 02:01:08.199 But it sounds really shitty if you run into it. But it's also 1913 02:01:08.279 --> 02:01:10.880 easy to see why you would just never Those people probably are not gonna see 1914 02:01:10.920 --> 02:01:13.520 it. It's just bad when it happens, and it feels it feels antiquated 1915 02:01:13.560 --> 02:01:15.479 in a game that has already got a lot of antiquated stuff going on. 1916 02:01:16.760 --> 02:01:19.920 I how does the switching work? How do you feel switching? The switching 1917 02:01:19.920 --> 02:01:24.520 works a lot better than it Didity three, which it's still not instant anything 1918 02:01:24.520 --> 02:01:32.520 perfect. It's dead. Game keeps going during definitely that sound definitely keeps going, 1919 02:01:32.640 --> 02:01:35.439 but like you can't necessarily tell if the enemies and stuff keep moving, 1920 02:01:35.960 --> 02:01:39.600 so you can't tell if you're exactly well, they're both running at the same 1921 02:01:39.640 --> 02:01:42.239 time, right, and it's always rendering. I'll know how they're doing it. 1922 02:01:42.359 --> 02:01:44.880 It's I think that's what they said. Did say, it's it's rendering 1923 02:01:44.880 --> 02:01:46.560 bo at the same time, and then you're just swapping to the other like 1924 02:01:46.680 --> 02:01:50.119 buffer. You'll see you'll see textures draw in kind of unreal engine style when 1925 02:01:50.119 --> 02:01:56.560 you switch back. But that's one of the that's one of the like kind 1926 02:01:56.600 --> 02:02:00.479 of archaic things about it is that like you've got this new graphical style which 1927 02:02:00.479 --> 02:02:03.960 looks pretty nice, but the character animation, like the npcas and stuff, 1928 02:02:04.000 --> 02:02:08.399 seemed to be bound to like those old animation routines. So you've got these 1929 02:02:08.479 --> 02:02:13.800 like relatively better looking dudes still like very mechanically rotating on access and like running 1930 02:02:13.800 --> 02:02:16.920 in straight lines, and it just does. It doesn't look great. Geometry 1931 02:02:17.159 --> 02:02:20.159 is still pretty much the same, right, well, no, I mean 1932 02:02:20.199 --> 02:02:26.520 they completely remodeled and retextured everything, and really the new graphical treatment is like 1933 02:02:26.680 --> 02:02:29.279 as far as I can tell, the movable areas and stuff like that, 1934 02:02:29.560 --> 02:02:32.680 Like, yeah, this geometry hasn't necessarily changed in terms of like the level 1935 02:02:32.760 --> 02:02:36.399 layouts are the same. Well, but but but the character models are every 1936 02:02:36.520 --> 02:02:41.800 model stuff all been redone. Yeah, I didn't realize. It's very it's 1937 02:02:41.880 --> 02:02:45.319 very striking, and this and the stuff arounds you like has changed far more 1938 02:02:45.399 --> 02:02:48.600 dramatically because you're not interacting with that, right, I don't realize that. 1939 02:02:48.680 --> 02:02:51.760 I know that, I know the guns look better, but it's absolutely a 1940 02:02:51.920 --> 02:02:56.800 fully new graphical treatment. It looks it looks like a modern Halo game with 1941 02:02:56.880 --> 02:02:59.800 that new skin on. But like, I don't know how much of this 1942 02:02:59.880 --> 02:03:01.880 is just like that that's how Halo was ten years ago, or if they 1943 02:03:01.960 --> 02:03:04.920 fucked it up this time. But like, like your AI buddies are terrible, 1944 02:03:05.600 --> 02:03:12.680 like I had, that's pretty much the entire Yeah, yeah, obviously, 1945 02:03:12.760 --> 02:03:15.000 but I mean pretty that was like in every Halo the entire game broke 1946 02:03:15.119 --> 02:03:17.680 for me. In truth, and reconciliation. Like I had the same issue 1947 02:03:17.720 --> 02:03:20.600 stuff like the game froze up there. I had. I had an AI 1948 02:03:20.680 --> 02:03:24.439 guy run up to me while I was taking cover and throw a garade directly 1949 02:03:24.479 --> 02:03:26.680 into the rock in front of us, and it bounced right back and killed 1950 02:03:26.720 --> 02:03:30.600 us both. Yeah, I had. Uh. There was a point where 1951 02:03:30.600 --> 02:03:32.000 I was trying to fight like ten enemies at once, and I heard my 1952 02:03:32.119 --> 02:03:35.680 guys about fifty feet back yelling shit like let's go get them, and like 1953 02:03:35.760 --> 02:03:38.920 I'm going after them, and I look back and they're all just stuck in 1954 02:03:39.000 --> 02:03:43.439 this like animation loop of running around in a circle, just you know, 1955 02:03:43.760 --> 02:03:45.399 on and on, like a lot of little rough shit like that. I 1956 02:03:45.479 --> 02:03:49.680 mean, Halo, I think I'm just gonna like insight a flame. But 1957 02:03:49.840 --> 02:03:54.399 like my memory of Halo, I like the Halo games. I think they're 1958 02:03:54.399 --> 02:03:58.319 super fun. I think they'd great things for for console shooters obviously, but 1959 02:03:58.399 --> 02:04:02.600 there was always a bit of like weird, for lack of a better word, 1960 02:04:02.680 --> 02:04:06.880 jangs, That's what I'm wondering, because that would just like go off, 1961 02:04:08.000 --> 02:04:10.640 like this guy dies and all those grenades fall on the ground, and 1962 02:04:10.680 --> 02:04:13.800 like you throw a grenade and like it just chains back to you and blows 1963 02:04:13.880 --> 02:04:15.920 up, you know, cars flipping out and and stuff. I mean, 1964 02:04:16.880 --> 02:04:20.199 it's all those dynamics that gave rise to the like the idea of the combat 1965 02:04:20.239 --> 02:04:25.399 puzzle. You know, all these different things happen, so and it's for 1966 02:04:25.479 --> 02:04:27.439 you to figure out like the best way to do and some of the best 1967 02:04:27.479 --> 02:04:30.199 parts of Halo War where that's I mean, you look at like Halo videos, 1968 02:04:30.239 --> 02:04:34.439 it's people trying to line grenades over them, over stuff. So so 1969 02:04:34.520 --> 02:04:39.119 I mean it's it's almost like I can't figure out if I'm reviewing like what 1970 02:04:39.239 --> 02:04:42.479 the game is in a modern context or how well it recreates like what Halo 1971 02:04:42.640 --> 02:04:45.920 was a decade ago. But I'm having a lot of fun with it because 1972 02:04:45.920 --> 02:04:47.760 the combat is still fucking awesome. But it's all it's all Halo, right, 1973 02:04:47.760 --> 02:04:50.000 it's all half packs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it just 1974 02:04:50.119 --> 02:04:56.600 does feel very i don't want to say wheel day, but like very traditional 1975 02:04:56.840 --> 02:05:01.920 in that stuff. Have you got stuff where they've supposedly trimmed some content. 1976 02:05:02.119 --> 02:05:05.119 I'm right now, I'm right before the library. So that's that's the thing 1977 02:05:05.239 --> 02:05:11.159 that they said, because the library was playing that on Heroic Yeah, not 1978 02:05:11.319 --> 02:05:14.239 be just turning the game out Halo ends when you meet that. But yeah, 1979 02:05:14.279 --> 02:05:16.239 that's actually the last level is kind of awesome. I'm curious. I'm 1980 02:05:16.239 --> 02:05:18.960 almost curious to see if they just like trimmed the section out of the library, 1981 02:05:19.039 --> 02:05:21.079 because if you ask me, how would you make the library better, 1982 02:05:21.079 --> 02:05:25.319 I would say make it shorter. Half. Yeah, just cut half of 1983 02:05:25.359 --> 02:05:29.479 the levels that you go to the same fucking rooms and corridors waiting. You 1984 02:05:29.560 --> 02:05:31.319 just have to wait for the dude has to open the doors, right, 1985 02:05:31.439 --> 02:05:34.520 I think so. Yeah, But watching them float across the screen, it's 1986 02:05:34.560 --> 02:05:36.960 actually like playing this now, I mean, it makes me realize it's not 1987 02:05:38.079 --> 02:05:41.960 just the library that was like that, like right, Like significant portions of 1988 02:05:42.000 --> 02:05:44.760 this game are just the same hallway or core. Yeah, Like like a 1989 02:05:44.840 --> 02:05:46.720 lot of the indoor stuff is is just kinretty much. All the indoor stuff 1990 02:05:46.760 --> 02:05:49.279 is like super boring. Yeah, I mean, well, the combat is 1991 02:05:49.319 --> 02:05:54.800 good, but the level boring. To look at it, it looks that's 1992 02:05:54.800 --> 02:05:56.960 the thing. It's very featureless. Like they've you know, they put new 1993 02:05:57.000 --> 02:06:00.399 textures and lights and stuff on it, but it's it's still just way after 1994 02:06:00.439 --> 02:06:02.680 whole way. Definitely more than a few times I remember getting turned around and 1995 02:06:02.840 --> 02:06:06.640 running and then all of a sudden hitting a checkpoint that was a ways ago, 1996 02:06:08.000 --> 02:06:11.119 like an old checkpoint because it would still checkpoint. Yeah, I did 1997 02:06:11.159 --> 02:06:14.119 that very thing right before this podcast, because there's still no no way points, 1998 02:06:14.159 --> 02:06:15.560 you know, and everything looks the same in both directions. Occasionally you're 1999 02:06:15.560 --> 02:06:17.720 sing, so it's very much you go until you hit a guy again. 2000 02:06:17.720 --> 02:06:21.159 You're gonna enemies pretty much pretty much, but the outdoor stuff looks great, 2001 02:06:21.159 --> 02:06:25.319 you know, like driving around on the beach and like Silent Cartographer, that 2002 02:06:25.479 --> 02:06:28.760 opening, like the you know, the music swells and everything and you land 2003 02:06:28.800 --> 02:06:30.840 on the beach like that. That ship's still pretty awesome. Trying to hijack 2004 02:06:30.920 --> 02:06:33.880 some are they the wraiths? What are the ones that have fly? Yeah, 2005 02:06:33.920 --> 02:06:36.439 you can't do that. Like the list of things that you just take 2006 02:06:36.479 --> 02:06:39.840 for granted as part of Halo now that you can't do in this game is 2007 02:06:39.880 --> 02:06:42.560 fucking freeze like stuff they didn't come up with until Halo too. You can't 2008 02:06:42.600 --> 02:06:45.520 do wheel hijack enemies. That was the big one for me was the first 2009 02:06:45.520 --> 02:06:48.159 time sword the first time and you go on the ship and you kill the 2010 02:06:48.399 --> 02:06:51.960 invisible elites with the swords, like I killed one, I ran over. 2011 02:06:53.000 --> 02:06:54.520 I was like, where's the sword. I can't I pick this up. 2012 02:06:54.880 --> 02:06:56.920 Wait a minute, that's not in this. You gotta shoot the guys out 2013 02:06:56.960 --> 02:06:59.880 of the banshees as well. The flying fighters have to shoot. You have 2014 02:06:59.920 --> 02:07:01.760 to blow up the Benchie's basically, I thought. I remember there's a way 2015 02:07:01.840 --> 02:07:04.439 too. There's the pyramid in Halo one, right, you can, you 2016 02:07:04.479 --> 02:07:08.600 can fly down, but you got you gotta get the guy out with that 2017 02:07:08.760 --> 02:07:13.560 blow. Don't know quick time to jump on and kick the guy out. 2018 02:07:13.560 --> 02:07:15.000 I don't think you can ever get in their tanks, right, Oh, 2019 02:07:15.079 --> 02:07:18.359 I can't remember. I think that you can get in tanks, not only 2020 02:07:18.479 --> 02:07:21.039 your tanks. If they can never get in there, I can't remember what 2021 02:07:21.159 --> 02:07:25.640 the wraith I think it is. Yeah, I remember not being able to 2022 02:07:25.840 --> 02:07:28.079 just get in there. There are they did add a lot of stuff. 2023 02:07:28.199 --> 02:07:30.920 Yeah, well that's the thing. This makes you realize how much the mechanics 2024 02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:34.119 have evolved. I don't remember a lot about original Hanlah here I played. 2025 02:07:34.159 --> 02:07:36.840 I played through it once when it was Newish. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 2026 02:07:38.239 --> 02:07:41.720 I played through it. Those are a religious experience in high school, 2027 02:07:41.720 --> 02:07:44.960 like a playing like legendary co op and then trying each of us trying to 2028 02:07:44.960 --> 02:07:47.159 see how far we get doing Legendary by ourselves. I never got past truth 2029 02:07:47.199 --> 02:07:51.199 and reconciliation. That's like imagining that playing that by yourself on Legendary was just 2030 02:07:51.239 --> 02:07:54.840 too much for him. But I too, my good friends made it through 2031 02:07:54.880 --> 02:07:58.640 the entire game Legendary co op like this before achievements. It is just so 2032 02:07:58.880 --> 02:08:01.800 the achievement design is really good in this because the way they split the multiplayer 2033 02:08:01.800 --> 02:08:05.159 out. When you're playing multiplayer in this, you're playing Halo Reach right, 2034 02:08:05.319 --> 02:08:07.079 Like it's just a map pack for Haley Reach, which has its own set 2035 02:08:07.119 --> 02:08:11.720 of issues. But so that lets them put all the multiplayer achievements in Halo 2036 02:08:11.840 --> 02:08:15.840 Reach as far as like dashboard is concerned or whatever, which gives them a 2037 02:08:15.880 --> 02:08:18.520 thousand points to work with for just Halo just for campaign stuff. So so 2038 02:08:18.600 --> 02:08:22.239 it's it's more than a thousand ultimately. Yeah, like what you're getting in 2039 02:08:22.239 --> 02:08:24.039 the package, Yeah, but you get it. You get there's a thousand 2040 02:08:24.119 --> 02:08:28.359 potential just for I mean, then they come up with some really pretty decent 2041 02:08:28.399 --> 02:08:31.399 objectives for campaign stuff, like every level has at least one or two like 2042 02:08:31.520 --> 02:08:37.039 kind of one off challenge kind of things like like the one for truth recaciliation 2043 02:08:37.199 --> 02:08:39.560 is like you start that level with the sniper rifle, but it's a really 2044 02:08:39.640 --> 02:08:43.239 long level and there are a lot of cases where you could make a better 2045 02:08:43.399 --> 02:08:46.279 use of weapons than are a sniper rifle. But if you if you finish 2046 02:08:46.359 --> 02:08:50.439 the level with the sniper rifle with at least four rounds left is see maysically 2047 02:08:50.520 --> 02:08:52.720 use it till you have four rounds left. Yeah, there's a lot of 2048 02:08:52.720 --> 02:08:56.960 cool stuff like that, like Silent Cartographer. There's one for like get through 2049 02:08:56.000 --> 02:09:00.479 the beach landing without any of the NPC marines dying. Just a lot of 2050 02:09:00.520 --> 02:09:03.479 cool stuff like that's like the professional stuff that people who are big Halo fans 2051 02:09:03.520 --> 02:09:05.600 will probably appreciate. There's skulls and stuff. Yeah, yeah, there are 2052 02:09:05.640 --> 02:09:09.319 skulls to find their terminals. Right. I was gonna ask have you found 2053 02:09:09.359 --> 02:09:13.520 any of those in It's like I found two. It looks like there's one 2054 02:09:13.560 --> 02:09:16.920 per level from what I can tell ye, and they're really well produced. 2055 02:09:16.000 --> 02:09:20.159 It's uh, it's like a motion graphic like concept moving concept art kind of 2056 02:09:20.199 --> 02:09:24.760 style to it, and it's it's all voice over by the guilty spark the 2057 02:09:24.159 --> 02:09:31.119 robot. Dude, are you getting any sense of man? Not yet? 2058 02:09:31.600 --> 02:09:33.000 But like I said, I've only found two of them at the first four 2059 02:09:33.079 --> 02:09:37.279 levels. It seems like it could maybe be going in that direction. It's 2060 02:09:37.279 --> 02:09:41.199 all it's all like Halo one backstory stuff from what I can tell so far, 2061 02:09:41.279 --> 02:09:43.119 but maybe not until the end. I bet they kind of said that 2062 02:09:43.159 --> 02:09:46.239 it was going to pull in stuff from other parts of the Halo fiction as 2063 02:09:46.279 --> 02:09:50.119 well as kind of allude to some Halo four definitely, like there's one there's 2064 02:09:50.119 --> 02:09:52.119 a scene of Guilty Spart talking to one of the other monitors, like before 2065 02:09:52.159 --> 02:09:54.680 they all went off to their respective Halos and stuff like that. It's it's 2066 02:09:54.680 --> 02:09:56.920 neat. I've seen that they released a couple of them. Yeah, they 2067 02:09:58.359 --> 02:10:00.600 put a lot of footage of that stuff out there. It's it's neat stuff 2068 02:10:00.640 --> 02:10:03.119 for like Halo superfans. I just want to know if the frame rate holds 2069 02:10:03.199 --> 02:10:07.119 up at the very end of the game with the co op on that that 2070 02:10:07.239 --> 02:10:11.199 ward hog change through the end and they would drop into the single digits just 2071 02:10:11.279 --> 02:10:13.359 going off a jump of it. It's been totally fun so far, no 2072 02:10:13.520 --> 02:10:18.119 problem. Flipping back into the old style is just many new style. It's 2073 02:10:18.199 --> 02:10:20.800 weird. Actually, me and Drew were playing co op last night, which 2074 02:10:22.399 --> 02:10:24.800 I was getting like a whole new level of depth out of that because he 2075 02:10:24.880 --> 02:10:26.960 remembers like such a ma new show that like, like, for instance, 2076 02:10:28.000 --> 02:10:30.159 in this one, the plasma pistol, you can run around with it fully 2077 02:10:30.239 --> 02:10:33.279 charged now and it just hold the charge forever, like in all the other 2078 02:10:33.319 --> 02:10:35.279 Halo games that change that, so it like blows up or whatever, or 2079 02:10:37.840 --> 02:10:39.560 you just you know, you just keep walking around with it until you encountered 2080 02:10:41.640 --> 02:10:43.319 like an elite or an elite that you could just take out. It's crazy 2081 02:10:43.319 --> 02:10:46.119 all the stuff that's back in this just because they made it like Halo one, 2082 02:10:46.159 --> 02:10:50.319 you know, stuff like that and the pistol and whatever. But but 2083 02:10:50.399 --> 02:10:52.520 anyway, like there are some sections of the game that are way easier to 2084 02:10:52.600 --> 02:10:56.960 play with the old graphics, Like the stealth camot elites are a lot easier 2085 02:10:58.039 --> 02:11:01.640 to see in the old graph almost visible with the new stuff, but really 2086 02:11:01.680 --> 02:11:05.560 they stand out really well with the old the old style. A lot of 2087 02:11:05.560 --> 02:11:09.039 the outdoor stuff there's a ton more foliage now, so it's harder to like 2088 02:11:09.119 --> 02:11:11.800 snipe through that because you can't just can't see what you're looking at. So 2089 02:11:11.880 --> 02:11:13.640 they're definitely cases where it's like a boobs you can actually switch back, which 2090 02:11:13.680 --> 02:11:16.640 is kind of weird, but uh, it's weird. It's a lot of 2091 02:11:16.680 --> 02:11:20.239 fun. The combat still hits really hard, it still feels awesome. You 2092 02:11:20.279 --> 02:11:24.399 know, it's still a lot of dynamic stuff going on. Uh some bunny 2093 02:11:24.439 --> 02:11:28.520 hopping everywhere. Yeah, kind of you know, still not running anywhere. 2094 02:11:28.680 --> 02:11:31.319 Yeah, must sprint anet of this stuff. Uh, Drew's really bummed out, 2095 02:11:31.399 --> 02:11:33.680 and he's not the only one. People seem kind of bummed that they 2096 02:11:33.680 --> 02:11:39.159 didn't just straight up recreate the multiplayer from from the original. Like it's I 2097 02:11:39.199 --> 02:11:41.479 mean, if you're playing multiplayer in this you're playing Halo Reach. You're just 2098 02:11:41.600 --> 02:11:46.199 on some some classic maps and they've got some playlists that disable their abilities from 2099 02:11:46.239 --> 02:11:48.399 REACHT so they have those two. Yeah. I got to play just a 2100 02:11:48.439 --> 02:11:52.199 couple of small matches with that stuff, and you know, it does feel 2101 02:11:52.279 --> 02:11:54.720 kind of Halo esque, but you know that the physics are a little different. 2102 02:11:54.960 --> 02:11:58.680 But they have versions right there, so there's like the classic version. 2103 02:11:58.880 --> 02:12:03.359 Yeah, but like it it's not the same. There was something very unique 2104 02:12:03.399 --> 02:12:07.640 and different about it. Seems really weird to put out like this tenth anniversary 2105 02:12:07.800 --> 02:12:11.399 edition of this game without blood gulch in there somewhere like some form of it, 2106 02:12:11.479 --> 02:12:15.960 you know, that seems like the thing everybody would want in the think 2107 02:12:16.000 --> 02:12:20.920 that was one of those. I think it's one of those. Maybe the 2108 02:12:20.960 --> 02:12:24.760 design to sand Creek or whatever. Yeah, they changed everything, they changed 2109 02:12:24.760 --> 02:12:30.000 the names Timberland. Yeah. I still I haven't gotten a dig into the 2110 02:12:30.039 --> 02:12:33.399 multiplayer much. But so the reason it was only the PC right that had 2111 02:12:33.600 --> 02:12:37.800 online, and there were maps that were specific to the PC position, and 2112 02:12:37.920 --> 02:12:41.119 one of those maps is one of the ones that made it into and then 2113 02:12:41.199 --> 02:12:43.880 the PC Verse is actually the one I played. That's that's how I played 2114 02:12:43.920 --> 02:12:48.840 through Halo to begin with. And then they're letting people who own Reach buy 2115 02:12:50.079 --> 02:12:52.760 a map pack. If you just want those maps so you don't care about 2116 02:12:52.800 --> 02:12:54.600 the campaign, you can just go online and buy the the I think it's 2117 02:12:54.600 --> 02:12:58.359 called the Anniversary mat pack. Okay, you just buy that so everybody can 2118 02:12:58.399 --> 02:13:03.560 play together, yep. And also the disc, the Anniversary disc comes with 2119 02:13:03.600 --> 02:13:05.960 the code to download those maps, so if you want to use your Reach 2120 02:13:05.039 --> 02:13:09.159 disc and have access to all the Reach stuff instead of just the six maps 2121 02:13:09.239 --> 02:13:11.600 that you get on the Anniversary disc, you can do that too. Also, 2122 02:13:11.800 --> 02:13:16.000 it was really nice having having lost my Reach saves since last year, 2123 02:13:16.119 --> 02:13:18.479 like popping over the multiplayer and just having like my custom Noble six coming in, 2124 02:13:18.840 --> 02:13:22.760 Yeah, unlocked. It was all stored on the servers, like it 2125 02:13:22.800 --> 02:13:26.199 was totally sor. I think even the campaign progress is like chapter progress might 2126 02:13:26.279 --> 02:13:30.600 be server side. If the game too, that's great, I'm not sure. 2127 02:13:30.680 --> 02:13:33.640 Yeah, I mean it seems like a pretty nicely done package for Bucks 2128 02:13:35.239 --> 02:13:37.720 and the price, the price really offsets and the music is all rescored right 2129 02:13:37.760 --> 02:13:41.920 behind. Yeah, like I can't tell a whole lot of difference. That's 2130 02:13:41.960 --> 02:13:45.239 probably a good thing. Yeah, Like that means they've sounds like Drew Drew 2131 02:13:45.840 --> 02:13:46.960 Drew said it was subtle, but he could he could tell the difference. 2132 02:13:48.000 --> 02:13:52.720 But it's definitely like the melodies are still there. You know, who is 2133 02:13:52.720 --> 02:13:54.840 it, Marty O'donald's. Yeah, those those beats like that stuffs all in 2134 02:13:54.840 --> 02:13:56.399 there. You can talk on the music, so you can. You can 2135 02:13:56.439 --> 02:14:00.680 talk on the music and venue. But now with like the button right now, 2136 02:14:00.840 --> 02:14:03.840 not distantaneously, and I don't think it changes until it starts the next 2137 02:14:03.000 --> 02:14:07.079 song, so you can't because pick up in the middle of a can't really 2138 02:14:07.119 --> 02:14:09.800 compare side by side. It'd be weird. It's tougher therapist. Still, 2139 02:14:09.880 --> 02:14:11.760 I mean, at least to give you the option. You know, it's 2140 02:14:11.800 --> 02:14:15.560 a it's a it's a great like fan service project, like or package. 2141 02:14:15.680 --> 02:14:16.319 You know, there's a lot of stuff in there. If you if you're 2142 02:14:16.479 --> 02:14:22.479 fund fund memories of Xbox ten years old now yeah today, yep, yep, 2143 02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:26.159 that's crazy. Yeah, ten years of being released. Yeah, blood 2144 02:14:26.199 --> 02:14:33.840 wake Azerik. Where's AZAAC Anniversary Fusion Frenzy. Yeah, he's Fusion Friends. 2145 02:14:33.880 --> 02:14:37.840 You got a sequel. It's true. AAAC was gonna get to see it 2146 02:14:37.000 --> 02:14:41.359 was then it was Ana like that Nightcaster, well, Nightcaster too, I 2147 02:14:41.399 --> 02:14:46.399 think eventually came out, but Microsoft didn't publish it. Who made AzaC? 2148 02:14:46.520 --> 02:14:52.159 I don't like Legend of A and all those old games, like they had 2149 02:14:52.199 --> 02:14:54.840 no idea what the romance to look for it. Hey, someone was saying 2150 02:14:56.279 --> 02:14:58.840 software, Someone was saying that this on Twitter, and it's yeah, it's 2151 02:14:58.880 --> 02:15:01.760 it's it's amazing that the Xbox kind of survived it's early years. Whatever. 2152 02:15:01.800 --> 02:15:09.159 Do you remember the PS two by itself? Yeah, Madden Tech and Surfing 2153 02:15:09.359 --> 02:15:15.600 H two O Time Splitters, Fan of Vision, Smugglers run Fan of Vision. 2154 02:15:15.600 --> 02:15:22.279 I'm talking and talking Launch in the US and the US, there were 2155 02:15:22.359 --> 02:15:26.479 like nine games Fan of Vision. What was that horrible Activision action RPG? 2156 02:15:26.760 --> 02:15:31.439 Do you remember what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah I can't. 2157 02:15:31.399 --> 02:15:35.039 No, that's that was the Cooey Strategy game. It was. It 2158 02:15:35.119 --> 02:15:39.800 was the game that they did the Magic Missile video for, like the Summer 2159 02:15:41.079 --> 02:15:45.359 So that was the t h Q game. There was another solition, Yeah, 2160 02:15:45.960 --> 02:15:50.279 I remember liking something. Yeah, Summer and sum two whatever. PSPs 2161 02:15:50.319 --> 02:15:52.479 two had a lot of brand momentum to ride on her. Xbox had nothing. 2162 02:15:52.880 --> 02:15:56.680 Yeah, except for Halo. I love to be quite popular and has 2163 02:15:56.760 --> 02:16:01.439 yielded this, uh, this nice little retread the original Halo is why I 2164 02:16:01.520 --> 02:16:03.479 bought an Xbox. I didn't have an Xbox. I had launched, and 2165 02:16:03.479 --> 02:16:05.840 then I was at some Halo event where they're giving out like Game of the 2166 02:16:05.880 --> 02:16:09.079 Year edition of Halo. Well, now I have the game that I would 2167 02:16:09.159 --> 02:16:13.000 have an Xbox for. Might as well go get an Xbox. I mean 2168 02:16:13.119 --> 02:16:15.680 it's kind of as a watershed game in a lot of ways. Yeah, 2169 02:16:15.840 --> 02:16:20.000 it's crazy to watch. There's a Macworld video where Steve Jobs brings out Jason 2170 02:16:20.079 --> 02:16:24.760 Jones from Bungee when Halo. You know, Bunje was a premier Mac developer 2171 02:16:24.840 --> 02:16:26.960 and the first time they're showing Halo and it's got the music, it's got 2172 02:16:28.000 --> 02:16:31.559 all the enemies, it's goot master Chief. But it was an RTS at 2173 02:16:31.559 --> 02:16:37.840 the time. But you can see like the I think, like I've watched 2174 02:16:37.920 --> 02:16:39.920 that documentaries where like a lot of the maps even were still the same or 2175 02:16:39.959 --> 02:16:43.840 at least very similar to their RTS count of parts, especially Silent Cartographer. 2176 02:16:45.040 --> 02:16:48.159 Like a lot of that was with exception of the inside stuff like just straight 2177 02:16:48.239 --> 02:16:52.440 up pulled from the RTS version and then just modified. I guess they were 2178 02:16:52.479 --> 02:16:56.719 coming off a myth at that point. Yet there were two I think I 2179 02:16:56.760 --> 02:16:58.280 think I remember them like they were definitely on a G three or three G 2180 02:16:58.479 --> 02:17:01.000 four and I was like, man, yeah, that's the computer. I'm 2181 02:17:01.000 --> 02:17:05.079 gonna get getting stuff the nice G four tower because look at that. They're 2182 02:17:05.079 --> 02:17:09.680 gonna make games for these computers. Fantastic. I think it's a photo shop 2183 02:17:09.760 --> 02:17:13.760 too, right, didn't go from an RTS to being like almost a tribes 2184 02:17:13.840 --> 02:17:16.479 or battlefield style like big multiplayer game. It's like les, Yeah, that 2185 02:17:16.879 --> 02:17:20.360 was the there was at least yeah, that was definitely one iteration of it, 2186 02:17:20.920 --> 02:17:24.920 and then it's held on I think just become a shooter and it became 2187 02:17:24.920 --> 02:17:28.959 a Microsoft property. I think it was after Microsoft bought Bungee that, you 2188 02:17:28.040 --> 02:17:31.239 know, it became an Xbox only thing and they had to find a way 2189 02:17:31.239 --> 02:17:33.719 to adapt it to a controller. For better or worse, it's a very 2190 02:17:33.760 --> 02:17:39.760 good shooter on the console everything for the industry, that was definitely kind of 2191 02:17:39.799 --> 02:17:41.399 like a minor inflection point in the design. I mean, there hadsole video 2192 02:17:41.440 --> 02:17:45.000 games, there had been first person shooters on consoles before, but that was 2193 02:17:45.040 --> 02:17:48.520 the one that's like, no, this is this is really buy and you 2194 02:17:48.559 --> 02:17:50.920 can trace it to you know. It's like there's Golden Eye and then there's 2195 02:17:50.959 --> 02:17:54.159 Halo, like more or less yeah, yeah, but and Halo is like, 2196 02:17:54.360 --> 02:17:58.959 okay, we still see pretty much all of those standards set by Halo 2197 02:17:58.399 --> 02:18:01.280 in game. Yeah, its rules are still there. Yeah. Like when 2198 02:18:01.319 --> 02:18:03.479 Golden I came out, I think that the people that were playing on the 2199 02:18:03.520 --> 02:18:09.959 PC were already playing shooters already were probably not impressed. But with Halo, 2200 02:18:09.120 --> 02:18:13.719 I think that's when the console shooters started. I get some legitimate respect, 2201 02:18:13.840 --> 02:18:15.760 and then there was a lot of money there, and then everybody's like, 2202 02:18:15.920 --> 02:18:18.520 let's put our console and then here we are so Halo. Halo killed the 2203 02:18:18.559 --> 02:18:22.840 PC. Basically, basically, Halo got all It got all the PC developers 2204 02:18:22.879 --> 02:18:24.920 to go like, oh dude, I think that argument could be totally made. 2205 02:18:24.920 --> 02:18:28.760 I mean it's it's almost inarguable. Yeah, like that, that is 2206 02:18:28.840 --> 02:18:31.559 That's just how it is. Thanks though, Thanks Microsoft. Yeah, Microsoft 2207 02:18:31.639 --> 02:18:35.799 killed the PC first. It was brought it in. They could take it 2208 02:18:35.840 --> 02:18:41.600 out. That's their m O. All right, let's let's talk a lot 2209 02:18:41.639 --> 02:18:43.600 about a little bit of news here, you guys, how do you feel 2210 02:18:43.600 --> 02:18:48.319 about that? Sharon? Microsoft called the PC. That means we're just gonna 2211 02:18:48.360 --> 02:18:52.280 talk about Skyroom from the forty five minutes to a sky Room news. We 2212 02:18:52.319 --> 02:18:56.760 don't have another. We don't have another forty five minutes talking. There is 2213 02:18:56.840 --> 02:19:00.360 news. We can talk about it quickly, but that's your Then we can 2214 02:19:00.399 --> 02:19:05.559 just oh, I mean, I guess the three sixty texture thing is the 2215 02:19:05.600 --> 02:19:07.520 biggest piece. Yeah, there's there's a bunch of issues. They're all working 2216 02:19:07.639 --> 02:19:11.360 into an all platform patch that the game is bug yet launch not that, 2217 02:19:11.639 --> 02:19:16.959 but it's not as bunky as I expected. Sound, but this is a 2218 02:19:16.040 --> 02:19:20.040 weird bug. Well, this one, this one is unique, and then 2219 02:19:20.079 --> 02:19:22.159 it affects everybody like everybody else has got their issues of like oh my face 2220 02:19:22.239 --> 02:19:26.079 disappeared, or I can't turn in this quest whatever, or the frame rate 2221 02:19:26.120 --> 02:19:31.360 in this dungeon is bad. Yes, get me started, but this one 2222 02:19:31.639 --> 02:19:37.079 is reproducible and affects everybody essentially who does it so sixty, So it's basically 2223 02:19:37.079 --> 02:19:41.399 on the three sixty. If you install the disk for Skyrim to the hard 2224 02:19:41.479 --> 02:19:46.520 drive to the hard drive, it never loads like the high version. That 2225 02:19:46.920 --> 02:19:50.920 never It's just the way it surfaces them is not. There are some assistant 2226 02:19:50.000 --> 02:19:54.120 There are quite a few textures that I picked out personally that never loaded the 2227 02:19:54.159 --> 02:19:56.200 high res versions because I played through the whole game. I played like until 2228 02:19:56.239 --> 02:20:00.520 I reviewed it off the hard drive, not knowing about this bug, and 2229 02:20:01.559 --> 02:20:05.000 there were like two or three places where I was like, yeah, something, 2230 02:20:05.520 --> 02:20:09.920 especially the signs signs get fixed, totally fixed. So that's the thing. 2231 02:20:11.120 --> 02:20:13.840 I don't want to look at any shots because I'm totally fine with how 2232 02:20:13.879 --> 02:20:18.719 it looks right now. The loading times are so good, I can't like, 2233 02:20:18.840 --> 02:20:20.840 I am waiting until that patch comes out before I play went forward. 2234 02:20:20.959 --> 02:20:26.360 I'm happy staying in the back. Ignorance is bliss. What's the impact on 2235 02:20:26.520 --> 02:20:31.760 onloading times from installed is not installed sizable, So it's weird. It's weird 2236 02:20:31.879 --> 02:20:33.600 because yeah, they're way worse off the disk. Yeah, well, but 2237 02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:37.959 it uses the built in cashing on the three sixty and they claim that, 2238 02:20:37.000 --> 02:20:39.280 you know, once you've played it for a few hours and it's fully cashed 2239 02:20:39.319 --> 02:20:43.399 and the load times are almost as good as and they do get better over 2240 02:20:43.479 --> 02:20:45.799 time, but they're never going to be as good as as off the hard 2241 02:20:45.879 --> 02:20:48.879 drive. Yeah, it's just if you don't know the difference, you can't. 2242 02:20:48.959 --> 02:20:52.559 But it was that if I'm gonna start playing, I need to just 2243 02:20:52.879 --> 02:20:56.280 install, install it and not worry about it. A point when they were 2244 02:20:56.280 --> 02:20:58.360 all the patch it'll look better, and you'd be like, oh, hey, 2245 02:20:58.639 --> 02:21:00.799 yeah, I've already seen it now, so like I know how much 2246 02:21:00.879 --> 02:21:03.680 like it is. It is a striking difference, Like there are points where 2247 02:21:03.719 --> 02:21:07.319 you go back, fuck, this looks really like it's a really good looking 2248 02:21:07.360 --> 02:21:09.440 game. Once that issue was taking care of, it was a pretty good 2249 02:21:09.479 --> 02:21:13.079 looking game before. That was one of the factors that got me also thinking 2250 02:21:13.200 --> 02:21:16.719 like I should just play pieces so that we should talk out for this. 2251 02:21:16.799 --> 02:21:20.840 But but my solution is to play the PC version until the three sixty version 2252 02:21:20.920 --> 02:21:24.319 is fixed. Man, so now I'm just gonna probably do a totally different 2253 02:21:24.360 --> 02:21:28.680 character. So what kind of characters should I do? Should do all magic? 2254 02:21:28.760 --> 02:21:33.239 I thought that, yeah, it goes goes alternative, like what other 2255 02:21:33.319 --> 02:21:35.879 there are? There are very few all total arts in it passed. Then 2256 02:21:35.920 --> 02:21:41.520 what you've already done the words like yeah, like if you want to be 2257 02:21:41.600 --> 02:21:45.799 a thief, like isn't trying to be yeah, because the backstab perks, 2258 02:21:45.840 --> 02:21:50.680 the thief perks fifteen and dual daggers. And then we'll switch to somebody's magic. 2259 02:21:50.799 --> 02:21:54.319 Somebody was playing there was a way to like get that up to thirty 2260 02:21:54.440 --> 02:21:56.559 X, but I'm not sure. Well, like you can basically one hit 2261 02:21:56.760 --> 02:22:01.479 like one shot anything that you sneak up on my point, great, uh, 2262 02:22:01.120 --> 02:22:07.239 but what about a giant maybe. So they're gonna patch this, they 2263 02:22:07.239 --> 02:22:09.680 don't have a time table for it's not it's not coming like tomorrow though, 2264 02:22:09.799 --> 02:22:13.120 like I mean, it's gonna be a little bit of a weight. So 2265 02:22:13.319 --> 02:22:16.280 it sounds like they're taking the tack of rolling that into the first like major 2266 02:22:16.360 --> 02:22:20.879 title update because there are there are no game breaking issues. It seems real 2267 02:22:20.959 --> 02:22:24.440 lyst like you know, it's it's a lot of there's nothing, nothing consistent. 2268 02:22:24.600 --> 02:22:26.200 It's totally playable. Yeah, yeah, there's nothing where it's like, 2269 02:22:26.280 --> 02:22:31.239 oh shit, all these people are gonna go turn these games, go look 2270 02:22:31.239 --> 02:22:35.159 at the Beth doesn't support forums. It's pretty crazy. I'm not saying there's 2271 02:22:35.159 --> 02:22:37.520 so many variability, but I don't think it's enough that there's. Like, 2272 02:22:37.719 --> 02:22:41.760 also, the game is just so good that it's I don't think you could 2273 02:22:41.760 --> 02:22:46.000 go to any video game support forum and find a real happy, lucky crowd, 2274 02:22:46.000 --> 02:22:48.399 because you're going to the support forum, you're already in a fucked up 2275 02:22:48.440 --> 02:22:50.920 place. The range, the range of problems people are reporting it is pretty 2276 02:22:50.959 --> 02:22:56.520 magnificent that I buy that. But yeah, I would say it's gonna be 2277 02:22:56.639 --> 02:23:00.559 But but the thing is that it's all different people funding different problems. Like, 2278 02:23:00.879 --> 02:23:03.600 right, no one person is going to experience every one of the three 2279 02:23:03.680 --> 02:23:05.360 hundred bugs that are on the front page. It's not I can't finish this 2280 02:23:05.440 --> 02:23:09.559 story quest because this one thing that a lot of people are gonna end up 2281 02:23:09.600 --> 02:23:11.920 doing by accident is breaking the game. Right, It's like everybody's gonna run 2282 02:23:11.920 --> 02:23:13.959 into two or three things. They're pretty minor, but like, no, 2283 02:23:15.200 --> 02:23:18.280 nobody's gonna have the game completely break on them. I don't think so. 2284 02:23:20.239 --> 02:23:24.959 So, Patrick, what can you tell us about this UMD trade in program 2285 02:23:24.159 --> 02:23:28.360 that Sony is ramping up for PSP UMD Passport program I think is what it's 2286 02:23:28.360 --> 02:23:31.360 called. Yeah, this thing is super weird, so it's interest it's just 2287 02:23:31.479 --> 02:23:35.200 a pan right now. But basically that you download a program to your p 2288 02:23:35.440 --> 02:23:41.440 to your Vita and then it verifies that disc with your PSN account to download 2289 02:23:41.440 --> 02:23:43.959 it to your PSP because the Vita won't be able to read the disc right 2290 02:23:43.159 --> 02:23:46.959 down to your PSP. Then it verifies it to your PSN account. Yeah, 2291 02:23:46.079 --> 02:23:50.479 and then you download that program under Vita, which then allows you to 2292 02:23:50.520 --> 02:23:54.639 transfer that to your Vita as a digital download. But it's not free and 2293 02:23:54.760 --> 02:24:00.319 the price is set by the publisher, and that varies between five and fifteen 2294 02:24:00.319 --> 02:24:03.639 dollars. They could also be there's one there was one anime game that was 2295 02:24:03.719 --> 02:24:07.920 like forty bucks. Basically you were just buying the game over again. But 2296 02:24:07.000 --> 02:24:11.879 you have to remember the games in Japan are on average like seventy eighty ninety 2297 02:24:11.920 --> 02:24:16.680 dollars, so like they they're paying more than we are per game, and 2298 02:24:18.200 --> 02:24:20.440 yeah, that might be yeah, so that might be discounted. Over what 2299 02:24:20.559 --> 02:24:24.399 they would just sell it in the PlayStation store at you were a new owner 2300 02:24:24.520 --> 02:24:28.920 or something. So yeah, yeah, like it's Sony gives publishers a little 2301 02:24:28.959 --> 02:24:33.559 more leeway in terms of their pricing then, say like a Microsoft open pricing, 2302 02:24:33.840 --> 02:24:37.760 yes, which also means that you can get screwed over. It's it's 2303 02:24:37.799 --> 02:24:39.799 weird, like it's very easy to not get screwed over though, just don't, 2304 02:24:39.920 --> 02:24:43.000 just don't, just don't. Yeah, I mean. They also claim 2305 02:24:43.040 --> 02:24:46.559 that somehow they're going to be able to stop like the UMD fraud, which 2306 02:24:46.559 --> 02:24:48.760 would be like, you know, you just have one UMD and just pass 2307 02:24:48.840 --> 02:24:52.399 around all your friends. But like I don't know how they, I mean, 2308 02:24:52.559 --> 02:24:56.600 how they would read the uniqueness of an individual umb stop it by forcing 2309 02:24:56.600 --> 02:25:00.120 them to pay some amount like that. Yeah, you know, it's it's 2310 02:25:00.159 --> 02:25:01.680 the throttle. If you have to pay ten bucks anyway, well you get 2311 02:25:01.760 --> 02:25:07.840 ten bucks that everybody has used U m D s and yeah exactly. It's 2312 02:25:07.879 --> 02:25:11.440 like, hey, if you want to pay us money for PSP games that 2313 02:25:11.600 --> 02:25:16.079 no one's playing, great, awesome, right because on the store they're fifteen 2314 02:25:16.079 --> 02:25:18.680 bucks anyway, so just buy yeah great, We're sales are up. Yeah 2315 02:25:20.079 --> 02:25:26.239 yeah, I can't imagine that. It's I don't know, it's shitty psition 2316 02:25:26.600 --> 02:25:28.280 you guys. Yeah, that thing's gonna come out, man, I know 2317 02:25:30.120 --> 02:25:33.399 you can do about it. Yeah, I'm real interested to see how that 2318 02:25:33.520 --> 02:25:37.639 thing does. It's yep, I don't know, Yeah, I don't Yeah, 2319 02:25:37.879 --> 02:25:43.280 when is that coming out? That's pretty fucking soon. I kind of 2320 02:25:43.319 --> 02:25:46.239 thought comes out in a couple of weeks in Japan. Yeah, yeah, 2321 02:25:46.280 --> 02:25:46.920 it does, that's true. I kind of thought the three DS, like, 2322 02:25:46.920 --> 02:25:50.040 Oh, that's gonna be that'll be a total swish for Nintendo. Well 2323 02:25:50.079 --> 02:25:54.120 it's and it sounds like it's doing better than pception. It's ahead of the 2324 02:25:54.280 --> 02:26:00.680 DS in terms of the same lifetime sales, but that doesn't say a whole 2325 02:26:00.719 --> 02:26:03.239 lot because the DS didn't do that right out of the gate. It was 2326 02:26:03.280 --> 02:26:07.159 Win the Ten Dogs, Brain Training and those games dropped that got it down 2327 02:26:07.239 --> 02:26:11.360 like Ellen, yeah, and then ended up up there. Yeah. So 2328 02:26:11.079 --> 02:26:15.479 it's probably gonna sell older the holidays, and I think Sony probably made a 2329 02:26:15.959 --> 02:26:18.639 pretty grave mistake and not being out in time for the holidays this year to 2330 02:26:18.680 --> 02:26:22.879 make it a ya and then Super Mario three D Land kind of gives people 2331 02:26:24.399 --> 02:26:28.520 like a pretty good reason to use three days. You know. It's it's 2332 02:26:30.319 --> 02:26:31.280 like I said in the review, I don't know that I would go so 2333 02:26:31.399 --> 02:26:33.600 far as to say you should run out and buy a three DS for this 2334 02:26:33.719 --> 02:26:39.120 game. But if you already bought a three DS, you should probably have 2335 02:26:39.239 --> 02:26:43.399 this. You already, you already are in for for the bulk of the 2336 02:26:43.440 --> 02:26:46.319 amount you made the mistake. Get the cool game that you can play on 2337 02:26:46.399 --> 02:26:48.760 that thing or other Ambassador games should be coming out soon, So we still 2338 02:26:48.760 --> 02:26:52.479 we're still do another Yes, do another tenny S games that I will tell 2339 02:26:52.520 --> 02:26:56.239 myself I'm going to play and then they'll not even download. And then the 2340 02:26:56.600 --> 02:27:00.799 NBA games. It's twenty and twenty. I thought it was ten and ten. 2341 02:27:01.319 --> 02:27:03.879 I don't know. Is there a Vita anyway? We're doing for some 2342 02:27:03.959 --> 02:27:07.079 more an S games, and then we'll also do for some GVA games. 2343 02:27:07.159 --> 02:27:11.520 Is there a Vita launch lineup? No, there's nothing now. Wipe Out 2344 02:27:11.840 --> 02:27:13.799 they've they've been saying for a long time now that wipe Outs a launch game 2345 02:27:15.120 --> 02:27:16.879 uncharted as a launch game in Japan, so I imagine it will be ready 2346 02:27:16.920 --> 02:27:24.799 for us. This is supposed to be launched. I mean, those are 2347 02:27:24.959 --> 02:27:28.280 games that you've played before. On other portable systems. Never, I mean 2348 02:27:28.319 --> 02:27:31.319 those are those are at least strong brands. I'm very excited to see what 2349 02:27:31.479 --> 02:27:35.159 rid Racer ends up being. Man, hey, man, as long as 2350 02:27:35.159 --> 02:27:41.200 it's long as it's got du step needs more dub step tech and Tag Tournament 2351 02:27:41.280 --> 02:27:43.639 too totally has a bunch of dub step on the soundtrack. So it's just 2352 02:27:45.000 --> 02:27:50.719 it's a Namco initiative to wobble up their games. Their combined universe its powered 2353 02:27:50.719 --> 02:27:54.200 by dubsteps. Exactly what do you think Dick Doug is pumping into Pucas and 2354 02:27:54.239 --> 02:27:58.120 five gars dub step. Yeah, that dub Step guns video on YouTube is 2355 02:27:58.239 --> 02:28:05.200 just that. That's actually a like a theoretical rendering of what they would like 2356 02:28:05.280 --> 02:28:07.920 the next dig Dug game to be. No, that's just a handicam of 2357 02:28:07.079 --> 02:28:09.879 what dig Dug actually is. That's someone. Yeah, it was able to 2358 02:28:09.879 --> 02:28:13.440 actually film dig Dug, and that's what he looks like. You you see 2359 02:28:13.479 --> 02:28:16.159 it from a different angle. So if you're actually there, if you're not 2360 02:28:16.239 --> 02:28:18.040 doing any through this weird video game simulation, that's what dig Doug looks like. 2361 02:28:18.239 --> 02:28:22.319 Yeah, he's not. Turns out, real real life dig Dug not 2362 02:28:22.440 --> 02:28:30.159 so into dropping rocks because into dropping base, bad week for PC services, 2363 02:28:30.879 --> 02:28:37.120 Steam getting a bunch of password attacked, and Call of Duty Elite not working 2364 02:28:37.200 --> 02:28:39.559 so great during launch week for for Modern Warfare three. Yeah, I mean 2365 02:28:39.559 --> 02:28:43.600 that's kind of cross platform, the Call Duty Elite stuff. Sure, yeah, 2366 02:28:43.799 --> 02:28:46.760 it's so. I was all set to write an article about, you 2367 02:28:46.799 --> 02:28:50.680 know, should you subscribe to Call of Duty Elite, and I've been unable 2368 02:28:50.680 --> 02:28:54.440 to write the article because it doesn't work yet, So I don't know. 2369 02:28:54.719 --> 02:28:56.920 So the current answer, the current answer is yeah, no, probably it 2370 02:28:58.000 --> 02:29:01.280 still has peak times where it's totally down. They stand on email to to 2371 02:29:01.440 --> 02:29:03.120 all their subscribers so far as saying they're getting a free thirty days. But 2372 02:29:03.200 --> 02:29:07.680 it has worked at some point. No, not not really. I mean 2373 02:29:07.280 --> 02:29:11.000 I was able to join groups. I don't know if anyone's been able to 2374 02:29:11.000 --> 02:29:15.719 start a clan yet. Match history has not been working. It seems like 2375 02:29:15.719 --> 02:29:18.600 they just kind of took it offline. They're in that mode where, you 2376 02:29:18.680 --> 02:29:24.000 know how websites have like dynamic things on them that now that now that we 2377 02:29:24.200 --> 02:29:28.799 work that much closer to building a website, we know things like the things 2378 02:29:28.840 --> 02:29:31.879 that like this is gonna be like a heavy database call. That's going to 2379 02:29:31.920 --> 02:29:35.200 be the first thing to break under the load. Like the thing in the 2380 02:29:35.280 --> 02:29:37.319 upper right right corner of the site that used to say your profile name, 2381 02:29:37.399 --> 02:29:41.440 now it just says my profile Like okay, fewer dynamic calls. Just just 2382 02:29:41.600 --> 02:29:45.159 flatten as much as you can, just make it work, you know, 2383 02:29:45.319 --> 02:29:48.959 So that that's the sort of thing that they're going through to try and address 2384 02:29:48.040 --> 02:29:54.319 load. And yeah, I don't know, Like I was able to create 2385 02:29:54.399 --> 02:29:56.360 custom classes and send it into the game, and you know that that seems 2386 02:29:56.360 --> 02:29:58.360 to be working, and you know, it's kind of it's getting there. 2387 02:29:58.719 --> 02:30:03.399 It's working more hours of the day than it was on launch day, but 2388 02:30:03.559 --> 02:30:07.120 but it's all week out and it's still things that they said it was going 2389 02:30:07.200 --> 02:30:11.319 to do, Like when they're saying things like we're working on getting the service 2390 02:30:11.399 --> 02:30:16.120 better at carrying more users simultaneously, Like, guys, all you're doing is 2391 02:30:16.159 --> 02:30:18.840 stat tracking, Like like, what's I mean? I know there's more going 2392 02:30:18.879 --> 02:30:20.639 on to it, but like at the end of the day, not that 2393 02:30:20.760 --> 02:30:24.000 much more. You knew how many copies of this you were selling? Yeah, 2394 02:30:24.200 --> 02:30:28.879 I don't understand. It sounds like an MML launch. This is what 2395 02:30:30.760 --> 02:30:35.000 huge loggins crashes. Once you're in like the when Call of Duty four launched 2396 02:30:35.319 --> 02:30:39.879 like that, that Christmas Xbox Live was on its knees for most of it 2397 02:30:39.319 --> 02:30:43.479 the time because no one had anticipated or had seen that kind of traffic to 2398 02:30:43.559 --> 02:30:48.600 it before. It's like, this is kind of unprecedented, and I imagine 2399 02:30:48.680 --> 02:30:52.120 on you know, Activision doesn't run a lot of stat heavy websites. No, 2400 02:30:52.399 --> 02:30:56.520 never, not like you know, Wow, active Vision. I didn't 2401 02:30:56.520 --> 02:31:00.680 say Blizzard, Blizzard knows what they're Blizzard was running. This be entirely different 2402 02:31:00.680 --> 02:31:03.799 than dude, shut the door and you're just laughing behind it. I don't 2403 02:31:03.000 --> 02:31:05.440 think you guys help us. We got a lot of load on. I 2404 02:31:05.479 --> 02:31:09.440 mean, there is the Skylanders website that's keeping track of all the toys that 2405 02:31:09.479 --> 02:31:11.959 people are sickened with the power of the portals are laughing, and you know 2406 02:31:13.120 --> 02:31:16.559 that seems to be holding up just fine with three people. Dude, there 2407 02:31:16.639 --> 02:31:20.239 are bus ads for Skyland City. Oh yeah, there are three new Skylanders 2408 02:31:20.280 --> 02:31:22.920 that came out last week. I've got him. I haven't tried him yet. 2409 02:31:22.959 --> 02:31:26.840 Dinah Rang was pretty sick. He's got he's got boomerangs, he's a 2410 02:31:26.879 --> 02:31:30.639 dinosaur, and you don't have him, not have him. Yes, that's 2411 02:31:30.680 --> 02:31:39.040 where Yeah, that's where the ultimaterang went back in times, was thrown back 2412 02:31:39.079 --> 02:31:41.719 in time. What do you get for the Skylander fan who has everything? 2413 02:31:41.639 --> 02:31:48.200 How's your carrying case full he needs? Like I had to take the the 2414 02:31:48.639 --> 02:31:50.719 there's like a cardboard center thing in there that you're supposed to put like eight 2415 02:31:50.760 --> 02:31:54.719 Skylanders that thing. I ripped that thing out and threw it away and just 2416 02:31:54.239 --> 02:32:00.680 packing it full of Skylanders. A case bulges. When when do you have 2417 02:32:00.799 --> 02:32:03.639 like the castle grace call for Skylander they have a castle carrying case? Yeah, 2418 02:32:03.959 --> 02:32:13.360 Also that is larger and I don't it's too much on the portal. 2419 02:32:13.479 --> 02:32:16.799 But the thing is, it doesn't doesn't it doesn't do anything. It doesn't 2420 02:32:16.840 --> 02:32:20.079 cover all of his Skylander transporting needs. Forty bucks doesn't get him all of 2421 02:32:20.120 --> 02:32:24.840 the Skylanders. I feel like the way we're phrasing that like it doesn't get 2422 02:32:24.959 --> 02:32:28.920 it doesn't cover all of his needs. Well, it's because he has needs, 2423 02:32:28.840 --> 02:32:33.000 his extreme Skylanders needs just in the room. And then kind of no 2424 02:32:33.159 --> 02:32:37.799 one has like I feel like not a lot of flipping out over the steam 2425 02:32:37.319 --> 02:32:41.159 data breach thing. There hasn't been much fallout. I was, I was 2426 02:32:41.360 --> 02:32:46.479 kind of confused. Was the message, the message board different. So so 2427 02:32:46.600 --> 02:32:50.000 when you create a Steam account of the message board you that's created, you 2428 02:32:50.079 --> 02:32:54.680 know, spun off from your Steam account, but you can have separate passwords 2429 02:32:54.719 --> 02:32:58.920 for it. But I don't know if it faults, but I think commonly 2430 02:32:58.959 --> 02:33:01.399 a lot of people on Internet used the same password for things, So whether 2431 02:33:01.399 --> 02:33:03.799 it defaults or not, a lot of people just use the same one for 2432 02:33:03.879 --> 02:33:07.520 consistency. I'm using steam Guard. Yeah, so if your mess the mess 2433 02:33:07.559 --> 02:33:11.600 word got hacked, which also allowed them to get to another database, is 2434 02:33:11.639 --> 02:33:13.520 how Valve put it. They didn't provide a lot of clarity and what that 2435 02:33:13.559 --> 02:33:16.840 means that there's multiple databases, but they said there was no evidence of fraud. 2436 02:33:18.280 --> 02:33:22.319 That credit card information was taken, but it was encrypted and they've also 2437 02:33:22.399 --> 02:33:26.280 hashed insulted your passwords. So basically, in terms of your information getting stolen, 2438 02:33:26.639 --> 02:33:31.319 they seem to have done all they can do to protect it when it's 2439 02:33:31.360 --> 02:33:35.079 been taken. So also, like if you compare this to the Sony thing, 2440 02:33:35.239 --> 02:33:37.600 like their turn around time on this, like they said that it was 2441 02:33:39.319 --> 02:33:41.719 last having it started on Sunday, Sunday, and then I think on Thursdays 2442 02:33:41.760 --> 02:33:45.799 when they shoot a state yea, So it's like four days between their discovery 2443 02:33:46.000 --> 02:33:48.280 and making a public announcement about it, which they laid it all out and 2444 02:33:48.840 --> 02:33:52.079 Gabe you know, signed it, and it was it was pitched by Valve 2445 02:33:52.120 --> 02:33:56.840 as an I am from that I am from Gabe. It didn't show up 2446 02:33:56.879 --> 02:34:00.399 as a message when you started Steam. It was like a news right, 2447 02:34:00.639 --> 02:34:05.079 because I'm not sure why they didn't force I know, I'm sure they don't 2448 02:34:05.120 --> 02:34:09.840 want to spam people like I feel like they're going to use like your default 2449 02:34:09.280 --> 02:34:13.959 email account, but that should be really a situation where whatever your default emails 2450 02:34:13.959 --> 02:34:16.399 and your Steam account, like that should be a message. Did you. 2451 02:34:16.600 --> 02:34:18.399 Yeah, I heard from some people that they didn't go as well. Maybe 2452 02:34:18.440 --> 02:34:22.399 they went out later and then and then I guess I don't walk into the 2453 02:34:22.440 --> 02:34:26.280 I am stuff on Steam, so maybe maybe I would have gotten a I 2454 02:34:26.360 --> 02:34:31.719 AM had I done that. But so they shut down the forums but not 2455 02:34:31.040 --> 02:34:35.440 Steam proper. Right. Yeah, they've just said probably change a password, 2456 02:34:35.479 --> 02:34:39.319 even though we're not saying you have to. Uh, and that Monteer credit 2457 02:34:39.360 --> 02:34:41.360 card stuff, but no evidence that there's a problem. I mean, so 2458 02:34:41.399 --> 02:34:46.120 many stuff was way worse and there didn't appear to be any credit card fraud. 2459 02:34:46.719 --> 02:34:50.840 You know, they took all stuff. So I mean if you couldn't 2460 02:34:50.879 --> 02:34:52.760 play or Steam games, people would be freaking out. Yes, especially with 2461 02:34:52.799 --> 02:34:58.520 skyrone like that would be fortunate, unfortunate timing, It would be no good. 2462 02:34:58.680 --> 02:35:03.399 But you know, thankfully Battlefields and Origin so strom scyrom stuff some kind 2463 02:35:03.399 --> 02:35:07.319 of like crazy record for concurrent players on Steam a single player game. Yeah, 2464 02:35:07.879 --> 02:35:09.159 it was like in the three hundred thousands or something. So how long 2465 02:35:09.239 --> 02:35:13.280 until we see see what Half Life three is? That must have gotten out 2466 02:35:13.360 --> 02:35:16.319 right, it's all part of so that the whole thing was really was, 2467 02:35:18.120 --> 02:35:28.239 and Half Live three and type nice. I have all two days. It 2468 02:35:28.440 --> 02:35:33.200 seems like I think it's all right. So watch your stuff logging his gabe 2469 02:35:33.360 --> 02:35:37.799 end and his password is end gabe. Shit, I would, And it's 2470 02:35:37.840 --> 02:35:41.000 salted and it's hashed. Yeah it's delicious, Yeah, fantastic. What does 2471 02:35:41.040 --> 02:35:45.000 that mean? I saw that? I saw that in the communicate. I 2472 02:35:45.040 --> 02:35:50.399 don't know what I'm back in until they get the passwords chopped and screwed. 2473 02:35:50.000 --> 02:35:52.959 Does anyone know what's salted? That's what is it? That's I don't it's 2474 02:35:54.000 --> 02:35:56.520 it's in addition to yeah, it's cryptography stuff that goes on top of the 2475 02:35:56.680 --> 02:36:03.600 hashing, and it's you're salting up with like a random seed. See it's 2476 02:36:03.600 --> 02:36:09.559 salted with salt salty seed about for news hackers don't They don't want the salty 2477 02:36:09.600 --> 02:36:16.360 seeds. That's why they can't get into it. Penetrated my past stop comes 2478 02:36:16.399 --> 02:36:26.159 to hacking. I'm all internal new new releases Minecraft? Is that actually coming 2479 02:36:26.200 --> 02:36:33.000 out? Its final? But it's not mine? Con is uh this week? 2480 02:36:35.719 --> 02:36:39.000 Wow? Some some big DJ's playing there. Two. I forget it's 2481 02:36:39.040 --> 02:36:48.959 a cascade. I don't know. It's is a dead Yes, Halo Combat 2482 02:36:48.959 --> 02:36:52.879 of All the Anniversary for Xbox three sixty. This is gonna take a while. 2483 02:36:54.520 --> 02:36:56.879 Assassins Creed Revelations Frexbox three sixty and play Station three, Saints Row the 2484 02:36:56.920 --> 02:37:01.520 Third f Xbox three sixty PlayStation three, and they see Super Mario three d 2485 02:37:01.680 --> 02:37:05.680 Land for Nintendo three DS, Ultimate Marhold Versus dot Com three for PlayStation three 2486 02:37:05.719 --> 02:37:09.600 and Xbox three sixty, Need for Speed the Run for PC WE three DS 2487 02:37:09.760 --> 02:37:13.719 three sixty and p S three remand Origins for p S three WE and three 2488 02:37:13.879 --> 02:37:20.600 sixty. Connect Disneyland Adventures for Xbox three sixty, Jurassic Park for Xbox three 2489 02:37:20.680 --> 02:37:31.120 sixty and PC. Oh my cheap jeep dot com is actually a place. 2490 02:37:31.360 --> 02:37:35.399 Bejeweled three for Xbox three sixty, PlayStation three and Nintendo DS. Yes, 2491 02:37:35.760 --> 02:37:39.959 why yeah, they're putting that in like pegle out on a disk. I 2492 02:37:39.000 --> 02:37:43.079 don't know media, Yeah, those are different products. Medieval Move well, 2493 02:37:43.079 --> 02:37:46.680 it's also twenty bucks for for Bejewel three, so same as they have been 2494 02:37:46.719 --> 02:37:52.680 charging for Jewel three elsewhere. Medieval Moves, Deadman's Quest for PlayStation three. 2495 02:37:54.040 --> 02:37:58.760 Great job, great job. Uh. And this Sunday Legend of Zelda Skyward 2496 02:37:58.760 --> 02:38:03.840 Sword from Nintendo we on PlayStation Network. You're gonna get Jurassic Park of the 2497 02:38:03.959 --> 02:38:11.559 game, so it's a download. Yep. They're also Burger Time Wild Tour 2498 02:38:13.120 --> 02:38:16.639 coming on on PlayStation network. Isn't Alex trying to defend that game? Yeah? 2499 02:38:16.680 --> 02:38:18.319 I don't know what's I don't know what's out on I don't know. 2500 02:38:18.399 --> 02:38:22.879 I don't know what's out on x BLA. I don't know what's out on 2501 02:38:22.959 --> 02:38:30.079 XPLA this week? Didn't you play some games? That's last week? Game 2502 02:38:30.120 --> 02:38:33.399 sounds cool, it's it seems kind of like Armada for the Dreamcast, but 2503 02:38:33.479 --> 02:38:39.600 fully realized. I've heard I've heard from Dreamcast in a long ass time. 2504 02:38:39.760 --> 02:38:43.639 It seemed a little bit like Privateer, a little bit I had tonnage of 2505 02:38:43.920 --> 02:38:48.280 Or, like you mind tons to or and then fly it to a dev 2506 02:38:48.319 --> 02:38:54.079 cargo port and sell it. Huh yeah, I thought. And it's a 2507 02:38:54.159 --> 02:38:58.879 dual joyst Excus. There's a Windows Phone seven thing that where you can level 2508 02:38:58.959 --> 02:39:01.120 up your AI buddy, and I really want to try that, but I 2509 02:39:01.159 --> 02:39:05.200 don't have a Windows phone. And now you guys are using all the Windows 2510 02:39:05.280 --> 02:39:07.520 phones. There's another one. There's another one, Yeah, all right, 2511 02:39:07.639 --> 02:39:09.879 Will, I think it's Will has another one. Okay, if that's not 2512 02:39:09.040 --> 02:39:13.159 new, I'm gonna steal it back and get some phone points because I'm an 2513 02:39:13.200 --> 02:39:18.040 idiot, tread me in that Android. I'll give you back this Windows phone. 2514 02:39:18.719 --> 02:39:20.280 Yeah, I could probably do that, all right. Otomandius come out 2515 02:39:20.360 --> 02:39:22.559 last week, Odous have been out for a couple of weeks. Okay, 2516 02:39:22.680 --> 02:39:26.520 Yeah, well that was a clock on the site. Omdis excellent. I 2517 02:39:26.559 --> 02:39:28.399 mean that was a weird release. Go go ahead and give that a look. 2518 02:39:28.639 --> 02:39:33.879 Really, it is a weird release in so many ways. It's Canamy 2519 02:39:33.959 --> 02:39:39.920 right, it's a great release. It's knomy right, yes it can Yeah, 2520 02:39:39.920 --> 02:39:43.760 it's inspired inspired by Yeah, it says it on the box. I 2521 02:39:43.799 --> 02:39:48.520 don't know if you sell the boxes inspired by grads familiar with odomanius Uh, 2522 02:39:48.000 --> 02:39:50.879 but I feel like they've just Canami has just been kind of like farting some 2523 02:39:52.040 --> 02:39:54.520 games out. I feel like they are really like letting people know middle Gear 2524 02:39:54.719 --> 02:39:58.040 kind of yeah, middle Gear. They didn't really it was like it was 2525 02:39:58.120 --> 02:40:03.440 that big deal back at TGS or whatever voted to it, right right, 2526 02:40:03.840 --> 02:40:09.120 big deal E three and then like came out as fun. Well they're supposed 2527 02:40:09.120 --> 02:40:13.239 to have Downpour and that's just that's coming out next year. Yeah. I 2528 02:40:13.319 --> 02:40:18.600 could see them backing away from really slowly just to avoid this is not their 2529 02:40:18.639 --> 02:40:26.200 first media. Yeah, there's Automadius g before autos accents gorgeous? Could you 2530 02:40:26.280 --> 02:40:33.680 click the girls boobs? Probably you're creepy like gall shooters Like it's yeah, 2531 02:40:33.360 --> 02:40:43.799 it's weird. So way, yeah, what else is going on? All 2532 02:40:43.920 --> 02:40:48.120 right, let's radius. Let's take it home with a couple of emails. 2533 02:40:48.280 --> 02:40:52.600 I do mean a couple of emails. Uh, let's see your first email. 2534 02:40:54.719 --> 02:40:58.920 First email comes in from Bradley Fitzgerald, with the prices of hard drives 2535 02:40:58.959 --> 02:41:03.520 now spinning out of Gerald Bradley, Am I right, I can't. I 2536 02:41:03.559 --> 02:41:05.120 can't read it if you're talking over me, I just gonna take us forever 2537 02:41:07.520 --> 02:41:11.680 with the with the price of this room is unbearable, With the price of 2538 02:41:11.719 --> 02:41:13.639 hard drives now spinning out of control, how do you think this will affect 2539 02:41:13.680 --> 02:41:18.639 the planning for next generation consoles? Uh? Microsoft, Nintendo will, Microsoft 2540 02:41:18.719 --> 02:41:22.680 Sony will pay more than they have to, and then they've had to in 2541 02:41:22.719 --> 02:41:26.200 the past if they want to secure contract to manufacture cut rate feature those five 2542 02:41:26.319 --> 02:41:28.559 hundred gig laptop hard drives. When there's a massive amount of mind to be 2543 02:41:28.680 --> 02:41:33.399 made something the two terror by disk desktop drives that power all back end Internet 2544 02:41:33.440 --> 02:41:39.159 services. The industry recovery and subsequent price normalization could be a year off given 2545 02:41:39.159 --> 02:41:43.959 the number of drive component manufacturers that all got flooded, So thoughts on that. 2546 02:41:46.399 --> 02:41:48.639 I hope it recovers faster than that. If if we're a year off 2547 02:41:48.760 --> 02:41:52.719 from prices kind of getting back to normal, it's probably that's manufacturing is still 2548 02:41:52.760 --> 02:41:56.920 It's still gonna be longer before that ramps up. It's probably an issue, 2549 02:41:56.959 --> 02:41:58.319 but less of an issue. I thing. I guess Nintendo is the only 2550 02:41:58.399 --> 02:42:03.719 one that might be looking at a machine with any sort of decent internal storage. 2551 02:42:03.719 --> 02:42:07.200 But Nintenda's not a company that really goes balls out in storage hard drive, 2552 02:42:07.280 --> 02:42:11.719 and that they are not into internals. So what That's where Nintendo and 2553 02:42:13.000 --> 02:42:18.000 we differ. Mm hmm. I hope it, man, it'll probably I 2554 02:42:18.000 --> 02:42:20.559 don't know. I mean, there was a rumor this week that the next 2555 02:42:20.719 --> 02:42:24.239 Xbox will be out next holiday, and I'm by it. That's I don't 2556 02:42:24.280 --> 02:42:26.959 really is out next holiday. I don't. I don't. I don't really 2557 02:42:26.079 --> 02:42:28.920 either buy it, don't buy it. I don't. I don't think I 2558 02:42:28.079 --> 02:42:31.879 did they ever say the tailor force for the three six Yes, yes they 2559 02:42:31.920 --> 02:42:33.760 did. They said that all three of those games are gonna be for the 2560 02:42:33.760 --> 02:42:37.040 three six years. We got on stage and then very very quickly Frankie was 2561 02:42:37.079 --> 02:42:41.799 like, no, this is another six years. Yeah. I don't think 2562 02:42:41.799 --> 02:42:46.200 any of those guys could raise the consumer to the retail price and say it's 2563 02:42:46.239 --> 02:42:50.159 because of you know, higher hard drive. Meant. I feel like by 2564 02:42:50.159 --> 02:42:52.120 the time the stuff is actually gonna be coming out, and by the time 2565 02:42:52.159 --> 02:42:58.479 it's actually rolling off into they'll be back to Yeah, that's probably be back 2566 02:42:58.479 --> 02:43:01.600 to it's probably like eighteen months away. If they're coming out in twenty thirteen. 2567 02:43:01.879 --> 02:43:05.239 It's so crazy what happened. I mean, not just the disaster, 2568 02:43:05.440 --> 02:43:09.159 but the centralization of all that stuff. Right, it's bananas, it's man, 2569 02:43:09.399 --> 02:43:13.200 Yeah, terrible. Wait, they're using bananas to make hard drives. 2570 02:43:15.120 --> 02:43:20.200 All they have left flooded so much chassis and platters that probably work. Gosh, 2571 02:43:20.920 --> 02:43:24.280 yeah, he just didn't start making alternative hard drives. I still have 2572 02:43:24.360 --> 02:43:30.280 him. I still need to buy some more storage, even if it's imaginary 2573 02:43:30.319 --> 02:43:33.840 storage. Yeah, I don't know what the storage? Man, you can 2574 02:43:33.920 --> 02:43:37.559 put, John Felipe, so much stuff in there, Sean Fillip from Quebec. 2575 02:43:37.719 --> 02:43:41.200 I'll go straight to the point. Is it true that from Software won't 2576 02:43:41.200 --> 02:43:43.879 release any DLC for that awesome game that is Dark Souls? If so, 2577 02:43:45.440 --> 02:43:48.120 what the fuck with them? What do you do? You want the DEALC? 2578 02:43:48.239 --> 02:43:52.159 Or do you not want the DLC? God, people, I'm gonna 2579 02:43:52.239 --> 02:43:56.120 lump all people together here, ye are people? DLC is the worst thing 2580 02:43:56.159 --> 02:43:58.360 to happen in video games. Remember when you just get a disc and put 2581 02:43:58.399 --> 02:44:03.200 it in? Why guess what you can still do that? This guy's all, 2582 02:44:03.079 --> 02:44:09.399 where's the DLC? Make up your mind? Imaginary man? I just 2583 02:44:09.479 --> 02:44:13.120 thought the argument about DLC is so tired. Yeah, I mean I ended 2584 02:44:13.200 --> 02:44:16.399 up so I ended up recording one of those subscriber only videos from my house 2585 02:44:16.520 --> 02:44:20.520 last night, and it's like one in the morning where I was just like 2586 02:44:20.959 --> 02:44:26.159 just going for it DLC stuff. So look for that, I guess as 2587 02:44:26.280 --> 02:44:33.479 DLC. Yeah, exactly, what does your position sound anything like? If 2588 02:44:33.479 --> 02:44:35.040 you don't like it, don't buy it. Yeah, that's what it sounds 2589 02:44:35.159 --> 02:44:39.079 like. Okay, if you don't like it, don't buy it. Get 2590 02:44:39.120 --> 02:44:41.159 back to us. When you buy a game that seems like it's somehow less 2591 02:44:41.159 --> 02:44:45.319 than it should be because there's DALC, and don't bitch about stuff that you're 2592 02:44:45.360 --> 02:44:48.799 just gonna buy anyway, which just help services the problem even more. I 2593 02:44:48.840 --> 02:44:52.239 think it is a great area. It's done well, it's done poorly. 2594 02:44:52.440 --> 02:44:54.840 Sometimes there's a great DLC that seems appropriate, and sometimes there's terrible DC. 2595 02:44:56.040 --> 02:44:58.360 Yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean I'm waiting. I'm I'm 2596 02:44:58.399 --> 02:45:01.520 waiting for the the first example of a game that feels like they cut huge 2597 02:45:01.520 --> 02:45:05.120 amounts of content out of it so they could sell it as DLC without then 2598 02:45:05.239 --> 02:45:09.200 cutting the price. Because the mx TV Alive was sold at a lower price, 2599 02:45:09.280 --> 02:45:13.000 specifically, because it was their experiment to try and sell more DLC. 2600 02:45:13.360 --> 02:45:16.600 So you're saying you have not felt like DLC has been stripped from the game. 2601 02:45:16.159 --> 02:45:20.280 I mean this stuff is generally produced on a separate budget, you know, 2602 02:45:20.559 --> 02:45:26.040 or after after the game has gone Yeah, you haven't. Team's rolling 2603 02:45:26.120 --> 02:45:28.959 off of the project and now they're just rolling on it. Basically they develop 2604 02:45:28.040 --> 02:45:31.399 argument. It's like, well, those guys would just sit around for three 2605 02:45:31.479 --> 02:45:35.360 months not doing anything because their role in the game is complete, or while 2606 02:45:35.399 --> 02:45:39.719 we're still doing the finishing QA and polish, those guys start on What if 2607 02:45:39.760 --> 02:45:43.079 the development time were longer and you put the DLC in the actual then you 2608 02:45:43.120 --> 02:45:46.680 get your game in the spring, and they always run into the same thing 2609 02:45:46.719 --> 02:45:50.040 because then they would just make DLC for a like you just it's it can't 2610 02:45:50.079 --> 02:45:52.319 be longer because at some point you have to lock what's in the game so 2611 02:45:52.399 --> 02:45:54.920 you can test it thoroughly before you ship it. I feel like there's been 2612 02:45:54.959 --> 02:45:58.719 stuff that I has previously been unlocked that have been DLC, like dead rising 2613 02:45:58.760 --> 02:46:03.239 costs, stumes and stuff like the blocks and stuff like that. Costumes. 2614 02:46:03.520 --> 02:46:07.319 Yeah, that's that's stuff that is what codes. Yeah, Like you mean 2615 02:46:07.360 --> 02:46:09.959 they're still charge if it were in the game. What I'm saying is it's 2616 02:46:09.959 --> 02:46:13.840 absence from the game is not detracting from your enjoyment of the game. I 2617 02:46:13.000 --> 02:46:16.879 think in Dead Rising it did for me. I mean a lot of that 2618 02:46:16.959 --> 02:46:20.280 game for me. The first one was like unlocking back the megabus still stuff 2619 02:46:20.319 --> 02:46:24.120 that stuff. You know, there's still like armor sets and like weird costume 2620 02:46:24.200 --> 02:46:26.159 things to find and put together in that game. But it's stuff that I 2621 02:46:26.200 --> 02:46:30.639 feel like, it's not the things that is now you have to you have 2622 02:46:30.719 --> 02:46:33.559 to pay. So yeah, no DALC for Dark Souls. I think they 2623 02:46:33.600 --> 02:46:37.600 came out and said they're not doing ye They're like, it's not it's not 2624 02:46:37.680 --> 02:46:41.440 their thing. They're putting a big patch out for it. Though the same 2625 02:46:41.520 --> 02:46:43.360 was that the one that Ardy came out in Japan that has not made it 2626 02:46:43.920 --> 02:46:46.000 fame one or if it's a different one. But it's supposed to help the 2627 02:46:46.040 --> 02:46:50.719 frame right and blight talent. I know that supposedly. I never had that. 2628 02:46:50.799 --> 02:46:52.360 I guess the PS three wasn't as bad. I heard terrible things, 2629 02:46:52.440 --> 02:46:56.680 but yeah, those the two versions I guess have performance issues in different areas 2630 02:46:56.719 --> 02:46:58.120 well. We played the three sixty one, we were playing with Ryan Right. 2631 02:46:58.399 --> 02:47:01.079 Never went to black Town, I know, but I could even tell 2632 02:47:01.319 --> 02:47:05.239 when in the first area that there were the frame rate was chugging when nothing 2633 02:47:05.319 --> 02:47:09.280 was going on, and never experienced it in the Digital Digital Foundry did a 2634 02:47:09.319 --> 02:47:13.079 really exhaustive breakdown as they don't want to do really Yeah, I mean they 2635 02:47:13.120 --> 02:47:16.200 do it for like every big game. It's I should go check it out 2636 02:47:16.200 --> 02:47:18.239 like a huge graphics nerd, Like it's so awesome. I like paging through 2637 02:47:18.239 --> 02:47:22.000 them. But they both have issues. They both have the frame rates balanced 2638 02:47:22.000 --> 02:47:26.079 out to about the same, just in different ways. Nate writes in do 2639 02:47:26.239 --> 02:47:31.600 y'all want some moonpies? I know a guy? No, wait, we 2640 02:47:31.639 --> 02:47:33.479 could they have moonpies here? You want some moon pies? I mean I'll 2641 02:47:33.479 --> 02:47:35.399 take some them. Yeah, but you know they have him in the store. 2642 02:47:35.520 --> 02:47:37.200 We can we can just go get them, because, yeah, what 2643 02:47:37.319 --> 02:47:45.319 makes his moonpies different? It's not chocolate vanilla moonpies. I've had. They 2644 02:47:45.360 --> 02:47:48.399 have. They have all kinds of moon pies, banana, banana moonpies. 2645 02:47:48.399 --> 02:47:52.639 I had my first moonpie, let's say, relatively recently. Flavor was it? 2646 02:47:52.120 --> 02:47:56.600 I don't know, Okay, the flavor. I do not think that 2647 02:47:56.639 --> 02:47:58.680 they were all that I don't I don't get that. It was just a 2648 02:47:58.719 --> 02:48:07.559 stack of craft singles. They're a little dry something by cheese. Moon's made 2649 02:48:07.600 --> 02:48:18.239 of cheese. I was just cheese and mayonnaise, all right, Brad brad 2650 02:48:18.559 --> 02:48:24.840 grens uh So, I'm actually pretty supportive of things like Project ten Dollars and 2651 02:48:24.920 --> 02:48:28.319 other similar online play passes and vouchers intended to incentivize buying a game new or 2652 02:48:28.319 --> 02:48:33.760 allowing publishers away to monetize you sales after the fact. But as they become 2653 02:48:33.440 --> 02:48:37.879 but as they are becoming ubiquitous in the industry, I'm wondering if their existence 2654 02:48:37.920 --> 02:48:41.920 actually has the unintended consequence of undermining the value of an Xbox Live Gold membership. 2655 02:48:43.200 --> 02:48:46.799 Actually think it's pretty interesting. It's basibly one of the more important premium 2656 02:48:46.840 --> 02:48:50.040 benefits of Gold is access to online multiplayer, but increasingly online is being graded, 2657 02:48:50.879 --> 02:48:56.159 being gated behind these packed in or ten dollar codes. When publishers are 2658 02:48:56.280 --> 02:48:58.520 telling us they need the money support the game online, the question becomes, 2659 02:48:58.559 --> 02:49:03.520 isn't that why I'm paying Microsoft sixty dollars a year? Microsoft obviously has invested 2660 02:49:03.559 --> 02:49:07.799 interest in maintaining the illusion that what everyone pays is necessary to support the features 2661 02:49:07.840 --> 02:49:11.760 of Live. But are they at risk of losing the revenue stream as time 2662 02:49:11.840 --> 02:49:15.239 goes on or is the average game buyer just not savvy enough to connect the 2663 02:49:15.360 --> 02:49:22.159 dots that one. Yeah, he's correct, like that, Yeah, that 2664 02:49:22.280 --> 02:49:26.040 this is it's kind of a fuse. Microsoft doesn't share any of that money 2665 02:49:26.120 --> 02:49:30.239 with publishers, right, No, like's that's all their money for our infrastructure 2666 02:49:30.280 --> 02:49:35.959 and what and whatever. They but they have whatever else we need that money 2667 02:49:35.000 --> 02:49:41.159 for this thing. It's their servers. Most that's onlikel Yeah, like publishers 2668 02:49:41.479 --> 02:49:43.239 with the exception of like when they want to like EA and and you know 2669 02:49:43.280 --> 02:49:46.840 activation with the hooks for Call of Duty. Elite has to run a lot 2670 02:49:46.879 --> 02:49:50.040 of services on their own and they go out and contract with you know, 2671 02:49:50.159 --> 02:49:54.280 demon Ware or whoever else to to do that stuff. But yeah, if 2672 02:49:54.319 --> 02:49:58.000 you just want to put your game on the internet and have dudes fight each 2673 02:49:58.000 --> 02:50:01.879 other, like Microsoft does all the matching stuff. And that's also why I 2674 02:50:01.879 --> 02:50:07.239 you see sometimes demos and stuff will disappear from PSN because so many charges, 2675 02:50:07.280 --> 02:50:11.959 you like they have to pay for those X amount of downloads, like if 2676 02:50:11.959 --> 02:50:15.040 they buy a bulk and then they'll just pull it down. The double dipping 2677 02:50:15.079 --> 02:50:18.360 going on here multiplayer. I don't I don't. I don't know that. 2678 02:50:18.399 --> 02:50:24.280 I call it double dipping. Different, it's two different people single dipping. 2679 02:50:24.479 --> 02:50:28.079 Yeah, i'd say it's it's that's almost a grosser because there's nothing you can 2680 02:50:28.159 --> 02:50:33.680 do about it. I mean, the issue is like it's kind of how 2681 02:50:33.719 --> 02:50:39.120 it's being presented by the publishers, Like it's they are throttling the multiplayer because 2682 02:50:39.040 --> 02:50:43.000 that's something that you need to have, or most commonly, they're throwing the 2683 02:50:43.079 --> 02:50:46.040 mult player because that's something you need to have an Internet connection to use, 2684 02:50:46.120 --> 02:50:52.000 and that's something that they can more easily get access to than some you know, 2685 02:50:52.120 --> 02:50:54.639 single player feature. Yeah, or at least it makes more sense because 2686 02:50:54.680 --> 02:50:56.600 like, well, I already have to have an Internet connection to make use 2687 02:50:56.639 --> 02:51:01.000 of this. Therefore, you know you're already there. I hadn't heard the 2688 02:51:01.040 --> 02:51:07.639 ten dollar stuff as a supplement to the budget of the game for multiplayer. 2689 02:51:07.639 --> 02:51:11.000 I thought it was just use sales stuff. I hadn't heard any device there 2690 02:51:11.040 --> 02:51:13.760 are. There are multiple arguments, but it's it's it's more about you sales, 2691 02:51:13.840 --> 02:51:18.239 but that they'll they'll like EA has used the other one for that before, 2692 02:51:18.360 --> 02:51:20.799 well, using their own servers. Maybe there's more literally there to the 2693 02:51:20.840 --> 02:51:24.559 biggest games is here a Mono War for three and Skyrom both didn't have bullshit 2694 02:51:24.639 --> 02:51:28.360 pre order stuff and both had did not have an online pass. Tell you 2695 02:51:28.399 --> 02:51:33.799 what people want to make money? Yep, it's online pass in Assassin's Creator 2696 02:51:33.840 --> 02:51:37.840 revelations. Yeah, because like you know, everyone that isn't those games. 2697 02:51:37.959 --> 02:51:41.200 Yeah, they got to figure out what they can do to get every dollar 2698 02:51:41.319 --> 02:51:45.120 they can. I'll admit to being like continually bothered by the like those sort 2699 02:51:45.159 --> 02:51:48.200 of falsehood that MacSoft presents over the Gold service and where your money is going 2700 02:51:48.280 --> 02:51:52.239 and what you're paying for, Like I like really like they're going to position 2701 02:51:52.319 --> 02:51:58.319 that like I have to pay Gold to get a Xbox exclusive you know, 2702 02:51:58.920 --> 02:52:03.639 theme for Facebook, Like so I can access those like any other device I 2703 02:52:03.760 --> 02:52:07.159 have. I just I don't have to pay for the application or the access 2704 02:52:07.200 --> 02:52:09.799 the application. And they that's where they wrap a lot of the goals stuff 2705 02:52:09.799 --> 02:52:13.280 around now, is like these additional services you use Netflix got to have goal. 2706 02:52:13.639 --> 02:52:15.959 Well, I don't need that for anything else, and your goal, 2707 02:52:16.159 --> 02:52:18.000 your your interface isn't any better than anyone else is. In fact, the 2708 02:52:18.040 --> 02:52:22.280 PS three one is actually a little bit better Yeah, it is. Uh, 2709 02:52:22.799 --> 02:52:26.200 I disagree either way. I don't. That's all I have to say 2710 02:52:26.200 --> 02:52:31.200 about that. Yeah, but they have people, they have people hooked into 2711 02:52:31.239 --> 02:52:35.319 it and it's fine. Yeah, I'm not saying it's bad. But it's 2712 02:52:35.360 --> 02:52:37.360 also like, if if that was the one thing that I needed to have 2713 02:52:37.559 --> 02:52:41.879 goal for, it's like wold, and why would I you would involve exactly, 2714 02:52:41.000 --> 02:52:45.680 there's enough other devices that have that shit on it. Yeah, and 2715 02:52:45.719 --> 02:52:48.440 and the fact that there's you know, it's always bothered me the level of 2716 02:52:48.479 --> 02:52:52.680 advertising that you get on on the Xbox considering it's like, I feel like 2717 02:52:52.680 --> 02:52:58.360 I'm paying you guys money to kind of like protect me from some of this 2718 02:52:58.520 --> 02:53:01.680 stuff. It seems a lot in the new dashboard. Yeah, you guys 2719 02:53:01.680 --> 02:53:07.040 went I am. I am not willing to commit to being better about that 2720 02:53:07.200 --> 02:53:11.159 until that thing launches and we see where all the spots and it looks, 2721 02:53:11.239 --> 02:53:15.159 it looks, it looks you know, we're hearing that it looks improved, 2722 02:53:15.200 --> 02:53:16.760 and what we saw it looked improved. The thing that is more about what 2723 02:53:16.760 --> 02:53:22.600 Microsoft's approach to it is that like they throttle what content providers even want to 2724 02:53:22.639 --> 02:53:26.840 do, Like the BBC has their one player or Player one Eye Player, 2725 02:53:28.239 --> 02:53:33.399 which is available on other devices for free because part of what the way the 2726 02:53:33.479 --> 02:53:37.520 BBC or like Europe subsidizes that stuff as it has to be accessible for free 2727 02:53:37.559 --> 02:53:41.000 for everyone where when it goes on to a platform. So they wanted to 2728 02:53:41.040 --> 02:53:43.600 put on the three sixty and they talked about this publicly, saying we want 2729 02:53:43.639 --> 02:53:46.760 to get on the Xbox because it's this big, big platform. And Microsoft 2730 02:53:46.799 --> 02:53:50.840 said, nope, it's got to be on Gold and they said that's legally 2731 02:53:50.879 --> 02:53:52.760 we can't do that, and like, well, then you can't be on 2732 02:53:52.799 --> 02:54:00.559 our service and I think that's shitty, but they do because they want to 2733 02:54:00.600 --> 02:54:03.760 maintain the illusion the gold is getting you access to services, even if those 2734 02:54:03.760 --> 02:54:07.680 service providers don't care if they're on Silver Gold. Yeah. Yeah, you 2735 02:54:07.719 --> 02:54:11.079 know, they psist presenting this illusion that is at the same time, you 2736 02:54:11.159 --> 02:54:15.840 know, they do like compare what like it's it's the age will thing compare 2737 02:54:15.879 --> 02:54:18.280 with the Xbox interface looked like when it launched versus what it looks like now, 2738 02:54:18.319 --> 02:54:20.399 and then do the same on the on the PS three. At PS 2739 02:54:20.479 --> 02:54:24.559 three pretty much the same ship. They put some sparkles behind it. I 2740 02:54:24.639 --> 02:54:26.399 agree, and that's and that's about it. And they added some ad units. 2741 02:54:26.440 --> 02:54:30.520 That's pretty much the improvements that have been made to the PS three interface. 2742 02:54:30.600 --> 02:54:33.440 I think the competition has done a poor job discrediting Microsoft's reason to charge 2743 02:54:33.559 --> 02:54:37.879 for Xbox Live. Yeah. That's ultimately what it comes down to. How 2744 02:54:37.920 --> 02:54:39.680 I rationalize having to pay for it is that there's nothing better. Yeah, 2745 02:54:39.879 --> 02:54:43.639 and that they Sony and Nintendo have both done no reason for my stoff to 2746 02:54:43.639 --> 02:54:46.120 the have to say, Yep, this doesn't make any sense to charge for 2747 02:54:46.159 --> 02:54:50.399 it, because they can say how far have they are? Even if even 2748 02:54:50.399 --> 02:54:52.479 if there's some definitely some faces will say that. You know, running a 2749 02:54:54.040 --> 02:54:58.360 service that is tiered by people who pay you and people don't like they're you 2750 02:54:58.479 --> 02:55:01.559 have to think long and hard about what you put behind a wall, what 2751 02:55:01.639 --> 02:55:05.200 you don't, and you have to make changes kind of as as you go 2752 02:55:05.440 --> 02:55:09.079 and and kind of see how people react and do that. But you know, 2753 02:55:09.159 --> 02:55:13.120 it's it's it's only when when people kind of rise up in mass that 2754 02:55:13.200 --> 02:55:16.799 you have that reason to do that stuff. And with Microsoft, no one's 2755 02:55:16.840 --> 02:55:20.840 really doing that to them. People seem happy to pay their feet. At 2756 02:55:20.879 --> 02:55:22.159 least now with the new dashboard, you can turn off the auto pay, 2757 02:55:24.040 --> 02:55:28.600 which was kind of an issue for which it's probably for It's probably good even 2758 02:55:28.639 --> 02:55:31.680 if you want to stay gold, because there's still so many cases of them 2759 02:55:31.840 --> 02:55:37.200 selling prepaid cards and stuff at a disc Amazon deals right like a couple years 2760 02:55:37.479 --> 02:55:39.680 like this whole notion, like like they say, like, oh, we 2761 02:55:39.719 --> 02:55:43.239 had to raise the price to sixty dollars, which is insane that they're like, 2762 02:55:43.399 --> 02:55:45.920 yeah, you got who does that? Who? Like, yeah, 2763 02:55:46.079 --> 02:55:48.040 we're making this ten dollars more last time, at last time by dot com 2764 02:55:48.200 --> 02:55:52.319 had like thirty five dollars cards banked, like three years of gold time. 2765 02:55:52.440 --> 02:55:56.559 Yeah, I have another one in my drawer exactly. I always find one, 2766 02:55:56.040 --> 02:55:58.120 right, yeah, one terms like oh geez, oh man, I 2767 02:55:58.200 --> 02:56:05.440 should Wow, it's probably gonna lose again and yeah. So yeah, being 2768 02:56:05.440 --> 02:56:09.000 able to turn off auto pay and and and being able to look out for 2769 02:56:09.040 --> 02:56:13.200 those deals because they'll they'll happen again. They happen every year. Everybody wants 2770 02:56:13.239 --> 02:56:16.440 to make money the end of the day. Everybody just wants to make a 2771 02:56:16.479 --> 02:56:20.399 dollar. How do I make money? Talk to me later? How do 2772 02:56:20.440 --> 02:56:26.079 you feel about hashing ten dollar codes? For Patrick Levick? So we've got 2773 02:56:26.159 --> 02:56:30.600 to figure out we could if we could get away with that feel a double 2774 02:56:30.680 --> 02:56:33.479 dipping. Uh. Well, that's all the time we have for emails. 2775 02:56:33.520 --> 02:56:37.200 Thanks everyone who wrote in bomb Cast at giant bomb dot com is the address, 2776 02:56:37.440 --> 02:56:43.520 and with that we close another episode of the Giant bomb Cast. Thanks 2777 02:56:43.559 --> 02:56:48.319 everyone for listening, thank you guys for talking and later, and we'll be 2778 02:56:48.440 --> 02:56:50.799 back next week with another addition of the Giant Podcast.