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This is I on the Ball with
Steve Rivera and Jakin Zalis on Fox Sports

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Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

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Welcome to I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm

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Steve Rivera, he's Jakin's ass.
We're running solo, so expect mistakes here.

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We are one. You've had some
confidence and I pushed the button.

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I know the history of our program. I'm going with the trend. I

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hear you. You got Monday dogs, I got Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday's

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afternoons. Ste Barrow something like,
I hear you, but probably not,

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probably not. We've done well,
you've done fantastic. Who might have said

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about running the board? I don't
even touch that thing's blind sorrel's I believe

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in the blind sport. Yes,
okay, Hey everybody, if you guys

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want to call in, please do. We've been getting some pretty good calls

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to five two oh foe seventy four
forty. I think we have a great

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show today. We do. This
is gonna be fun. Jim Live and

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good. Well, look two guys
that are from the let's call it the

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previous generation of college sports, right
before nil, before chance reportals, we

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had access all this stuff right when
we used to have access before social media,

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before social media, right all that. Uh, and so we'll get

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you know, we'll get their take
on how, you know, God,

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would they even like to be doing
what they were doing? Right? Jim

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Livan good More rath leg director Arizona, Washington State UNLV and then Bob Davy

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at football coach Notre Dame, New
Mexico. He's a TV guy now,

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former former you know, former assistant
coach at Arizona. You know, they've

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they they've been around a while,
They've seen a lot, they're still involved.

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Right, what do they think,
you know, what do they think

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about the fact that next year the
Pac twel was gone. No, we'll

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talk all about that interesting stuff.
But I haven't seen Jim. We had

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gym earlier this year. We've had
him on in March March ish. Uh.

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We just I said, you know, okay, let's trying to get

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back back on see what he's up
to and then get all this new take

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on it. Yeah, he's been
gone more than ten years now, twelve

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thirteen years because Burn through the Greg
Burn and Davey. Yeah, yeah,

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late to two thousand, he's the
one to hire shot. So two thousand

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and nine ish, two thousand and
nine, I think it was his last

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year. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it's uh, let's see,

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I'm trying to look him up.
Yeah, it's two thousand nine,

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two thousan ten because he got shot
in two thousand and nine. The citizen

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clothes then, So that's kind of
how I remember things. Yeah, so

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you know, you know, but
a guy who again he was seen a

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lot and looking he was at Arizona
at a time when you know, there

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was a lot of growth and a
lot of success. Things happened, a

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lot of success. Yeah, you
know, some call at the Golden Age.

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Yeah, so I think I have. I don't know, you've kind

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of nodded your head. Yeah,
don't you think, Well, go ahead,

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I don't want to interrupt yourself.
That's so. So I think the

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guy who started at all, the
guy who was obviously Cedric, right,

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he planted the seeds, well,
Cedric Cedric aggressively went out and tried to

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do things to uh improve not just
an individual sport, but just Arizona program

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profile as a as a as a
national and he did that, you know,

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and he did that by hiring Luke. He got he got the football

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program with Larry Smith and and Dick
Tommy going, you know again, like

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you said, you know, Mike
Andre made a lot of moves that got

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the balls rolling. Jim Live and
good kind of took it to you know,

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the next step, particularly with you
know, with the with Arizona basketball

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and the profile that it continued to
establish, you know, brought football along

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where you know, through the Dick
Tomy years, became a you know,

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a top program in some seasons,
you know, but certainly when they got

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talked about a lot a large part
because of a desert swarm and all that

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stuff, you know, and then
turned it over to Greg Burns. So

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you know, I think it's it's, uh, you know, he's a

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guy that and look like anybody,
right, like like anybody in a position

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like his, they're always detractors.
People said he's doing a terrible job for

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this sort of course of course,
right. But when you look back on

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it today and you look back on
his time here, you think pretty well

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of it, don't you. Yeah? No, I I yeah, and

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you're not revising any history either.
No, you're just saying the facts.

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And I think there's more. Uh. Isn't a business you have more positives

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and negatives. Uh at the end
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think about the facilities and things like
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you know, all that a lot
of that started to happen when uh.

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Yeah, I think though he was
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of that, and then Greg came
in and raised a few dollars and it

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started being and getting the football arena, football hysteria up up to up to

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speed. Yeah, so I think
that uh, you know, look,

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he was friendly a guy as that
could be one of those guys who,

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hey, let me say something,
who knew your name? Yeah, who

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shook your hand, shook your hand? I mean you you know, you

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may be mad him twice, yet
he knew who you are. And guy

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guys in those positions do that.
Greg Byrne was a master at that.

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Yeah, you know, Okay,
Yeah, we're gonna say Greg was good

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at it, but I think he
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he was more of he his his
his shaking of the hand was more of

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Yes, he would. I'm not
gonna deny that. But depends the higher

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profile the person, the more shaking
of the hands. Yeah, like anybody

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though, I mean he doesn't do
that. Well, you gotta treat kind

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of people equally. Yeah, it
might, it might. You know what

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I'm saying. You know exactly what
I'm saying. No, I I yeah,

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no, I know, I'm gonna
say. Here Alive and good went

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to u n LV and two thousand
and nine nine, right, So how

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long was he well after he left
after after young of a gap? Oh?

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Was there from when he left a
and started at UNLV. Oh,

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it was just right away, right
away, he was right away. Yeah,

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he's right away. He was here
for fifteen years, Yeah to nineteen

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eighty four. So, you know, a great time, great time,

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good guy. We had our run
ins, but you know we got him

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solved right away. You know,
you have to ask questions. Sometimes he

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doesn't like the questions. Well you
know what, well, yeah, and

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you know what, but he always
he never looked Maddie. No, No,

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he was fair. He was he
was fair, which is which is

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what Dave Hickey does. Right.
I think I think he's really good at

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that because we've asked him some things, and you know, sure, and

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and he and he understands that we
have to ask those things, so he

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just tells you what he can.
No. No, he's been very straightforward

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with us. We can joke with
him and not joke with him, and

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he understands our situation. I think
too that the eras of our time and

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today's time are totally different, you
know, way different. You know,

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the access to these guys is very
little. Thank god, I don't have

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to do it now. I'm sure
you're happy too. We're a little bit

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that we do. I'm frustrated with
our little access we can, right you

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know. You know we got Jet
fifh twice a week fifteen. We gotta

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get him on this show. Yeah, and you know why I say that.

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I know he would come on,
I know if we can. If

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we asked him directly, you know
what, he'd say, Sure, sure,

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But we have to go through hoops
and all, because if we can

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get the U TEP coach to come
on a week of a game, couple

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of days before the game, we
could get our old coach, so we

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could honestly, am I folding?
No, Steve, You're not. You

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would think that we could, but
let's start asking. We'll start asking.

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If they continue to say, we'll
ask some more, right, because what

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they're gonna do tell us, No, they're telling us now, yeah,

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we'll call him out on on the
ring. Yeah, it's it's just ja

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jeto Okay. What we do is
not brain surgery, thankfully, because patients

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would have died in my in my
watch. No, what Steve, What

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we do is that is that we
give We give you know, uh,

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people, coaches, administrators, whatever, an opportunity, a platform, a

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platform to say what they what they
want to say. Sure, there's things

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we want to know. Yeah,
that's the trade off. We'll ask you

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some questions, you tell us some
things and and you know you can get

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your you know, your message out
and would like to you know, get

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the information that our listeners wanting.
Sure, that's all we're trying to do,

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you know, not You and I
aren't investigative reports. We're not we're

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not trying to find out have you
been uh, you know, having phone

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sex with some lady that you shouldn't
be having phone sex. We're not asking

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those questions to ask, right,
really, fun, We're just we're just

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trying to find out, you know, how things are going, you know,

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anything new coming up? You know, Well, you asked him a

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question he had He wasn't uncomfortable.
He was joking with you, of course

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about the the usage of the running
back trade. Yeah, I'm about going

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to tell you Ja, I can't
tell that. That was kind of funny.

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And then he didn't. Then you
did. Then he gave us an

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answer. It wasn't everything that I
was hoping it would be, sure,

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but it was the answer that he
was willing to get. Fine, you

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know, and I didn't both sides. That's all okay, So we'll try

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to do that. Like I said, it's not brain surgery. We just

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talk about stuff on the no and
we try to have we try to have

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a conversation because it was really fun. I think a really interesting thing that

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I that I read uh today about
Dan Patrick who did did did an interview

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with somebody and he said, I
don't do a sports show. I do

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a show. Yeah, you know, we talk about other stuff. Yes,

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we talk about a lot of sports, Yes, but we talk about

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whatever. You know, they'll talk
about Taylor Swift, they'll talk about you

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know, music that they like.
We'll talk about a lot a lot of

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talk about food, you know,
so and that's you know way I feel

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like it's a kid to us.
That's kind of which was trying to have

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conversations that we would be having wherever. The one of the most popular stories

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or shows that I remember us doing
that I got a lot of feedback was

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for when Olivia Newton John died because
we kind of went back to our old

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little kid days. And you know, who do we have a crush on,

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you know, black blood, you
know, all time women. And

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because you know why, I heard
other dudes our age saying, oh yeah,

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I remember in Pamela and Pamela from
Dallas whatever her name was, Priscilla

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Presley, all these people, you
know they had It's just the stir of

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conversation, right and that's you know, that's all. That's all. We

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tried it. Yeah, we have. We try to have fun with it,

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you know. We we do get
into some serious sure, of course.

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And and there's there's a very serious
one going on right now. Yeah

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with mouth talking over at Michigan.
Well there's one. And you've got the

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stuff with Colorado State and see what
happened with Dolora today, and then that's

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not gonna go away. That's you
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then it won't. And and you
know, you know the funny thing

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about it, Jay, with that, I would have gone yesterday. I

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don't know, because I was thinking
this question. I didn't know the timing

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of the story and the start to
day. But NORMA thought Norman did a

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great job. Was that. I
thought that Jaden to this point has done

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a fantastic job. We are kind
of blocking the noise if there if there's

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been noise, right what I'm saying, Yeah, because it's been he's been

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here. He hasn't been Mississippi or
whatever, but he's been in his cocoon

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here. Yeah. Well he's been. Yeah, you know, he's been.

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Whether it's right or wrong, he's
been able to just kind of set

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it aside and and move on.
But now this thing has crept up again.

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We got a couple of minutes.
It's just so you know, this

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whole thing came out because there was
this lawsuit that was filed by the by

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the plane the plane if a victim
in this thing, filed against Jane Delora

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and the other guy that was involved
in this. They they came up with

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a settlement of the lawsuit. That
thing got filed publicly, and that's how

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it got found out by the by
the newspaper in Hawaii, this alleged sexual

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assault peticularly, I'm gonna say alleged
because he's not been convicted of anything.

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So a judge recently, and I
don't know, uh, it was in

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August thirty first ruling said that the
amount that that was settled for by the

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victim was too low. That these
guys are making more money now because they're

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getting nil whatever, and there's no
no statement as to how much of that

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how much it is. But the
judges makes me saying that she settled for

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too low of an amount and he's
declined to accept the settlement and saying go

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back to the table and they set
up a mediation for January that he's gonna

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that that the lawyers and I'm assuming
James Delore will have to be a part

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of to go kind of basically redo
this and say, Okay, this is

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how much she should be getting.
There's no doubt they both both parties want

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to settle it because if she settled
for too low, she just wants to

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settle this thing right now, they're
saying and then the judge is kind of

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watching out for her to say you're
not getting enough out they're sure for what

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happened, and for the kind of
money that these guys part of me that

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she wants to end this, she
wants to get and she she doesn't have

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her family doesn't have a whole lot
of money too to move forward with it.

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guys, right right, they said, Okay, uh, they're part of

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it, but so is the school. Yeah. So so that's what's happened.

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So this thing is hanging out there
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nothing happens until a mediation in January
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Let's move on and we'll take care
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that that's not a coincidence as to
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to October, November, September.
Rights over an opportunity for for him to

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judge saying she should be getting more
money, well he's got to go out

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and earn that money. Yeah,
right, So they're they're just getting and

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it kind of gave a hint how
much he was making it in il the

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car he was driving things like that. So so okay, so let's let's

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take the break. Yeah, come
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we will have Jim. I'm a
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Steve Rivera and Jaden Summits. This
is I on the Ball on Fox Sports

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fourteen Theory. Hey, welcome back
to Why on the Volcano on Fox Sports

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spurteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,
He's Jakin's Austin and I want to phone.

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We have former YU of A athletic
director Jim Live and good and Jim,

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how you doing good? Steve to
deal with you? And Jay absolutely

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doing great. Great to have you
on the show. We had you not

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too long ago and maybe in March
talking a little hoops and stuff. Let

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me see this My guess, and
I don't think I'm wrong with this,

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is that your happiest hell for not
being a D anymore? You know?

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On see that as a capital h
okay, a capital h on hell.

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I mean, holy, how this
stuff changes every hour, not by the

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day, week or month, but
every hour now to my knowledge, something

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hasn't changed and snoop so shape right, But you're right, No, this

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is a great life right now to
and I feel for Dave and everybody else

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who's in this business right now trying
to make sense of things and wonder what

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the next thing unless to do is
Well, well, let's let's ask you

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that, because you know, I
mean, I know you're you're still a

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fan. You still you know,
pay attention to all the stuff. You

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know, you were, you were
in the middle of it for so long.

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What's what have been some of the
conversations you've had with guys who are

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still in it, whether it's Hikey
or somebody else that you know that you

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know from your past with maybe it's
still an athletic director or you know,

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it's still involved with the program,
whatever. What kinds of things do you

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hear that they're going through. Well, you know, with guys, the

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biggest thing is and I talk to
people every day. I mean, that's

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one of the things that kind of
keeps men just is going, and it

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keeps me young, so to speak. The worst guys in the profession right

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now, guys were retired out of
the profession, and that's all across the

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country. The thing I think that
gets all of them mostly, the biggest

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thing right now is is not knowing
what the next shoe is. What's the

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next shoe to drop? If we
know there are going to be things everything,

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as much of the public might think
right now, you know, things

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are settled. You know, we've
got things broken into these conferences and we're

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just waiting to see what's going to
have to the coops and the beavers.

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But most of the things are settled. They're not. I mean, guys,

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are are so many things I think
that are going on behind the scenes

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and that that it's crazy. So
that's what keeps the people who are in

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the professional week. The other people
are just thinking they're lucky stars. And

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when they go to sleep tonight at
I put their head down, the fellowinsay,

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hey, thank goodness that somebody else
can do that today. You must

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have been and I don't want to
put words in your mouth, but disappointed

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or alarmed or whatever word. When
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was no longer or back then,
absolutely I wasn't shocked, but because but

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I'm not a soothsayer. So I
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answers, because you guys both know
that I don't. But I was shocked

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because of all the history, you
know, going back to the City Coast

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Conference, the Pack eight to Pack
ten, the PAC twelve, that they're

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just and you guys, I know
I've talked about this before, but there's

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just so much historical perspective and having
dealt with so many people over the years

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who were part of all of those
things. That's hurtful thing right there.

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And yet at the same time,
like most you both Jay, you and

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Steve Folk know this, it's not
about where you've been, it's about where

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you're going, so those kind of
things. It's not trying to be a

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futurist right here, but it's about
today and tomorrow and what next week,

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next month. Now, I said
that with regards to that that you know,

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the Fact twelve, it is about
this year because there's still a PAC

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twelve to play in everything, whether
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volleyball, baseball, everything. So
yeah, it hurt just because of

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having all those years between ridicularly between
Washington State and Arizona, having been part

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of this great conference. So put
yours. Maybe I'm gonna ask you this,

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put yourself in the shoes of the
Washington State Athletic director. You were

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there, you know, you know, you probably have a good sense of

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the culture. You know the things
that it stands for, the things that

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it's been. And now they're in
this position where they're sort of in limbo.

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I mean, how how would you
be handling that? Well, you

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know, the hardest thing. And
I know Pat Royle pat Chung has been

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a friend for a long time.
I mean back that they work for Jane

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Smith of the Ohio State and he's
a really good athletic director. They've got

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a good president, Kerk Schultz,
and I have a lot of friends who

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are sugars. Whether it's on the
west side of the side amounts that.

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The answer to the question j I
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well, if this would happen,
I do this, We do that.

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I think the biggest thing right now
is finding throughout what is the most stable

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thing that we can possibly do as
a relation to the cougars and the beavers,

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and then how are we going to
face the fight? Other words,

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the fiscal part of this thing and
of all the other things going on.

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That's a proven real thing because the
amount of money that's going to be different

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regardless of whether there's a merge one
way or another with a Mountain West,

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with somewhat the AAC is involved a
little bit or whatever, there's going to

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be a massive propet revenue. And
how do you do those kinds of things

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that they're trying to do with the
number of programs are trying to do it

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for student athletes? I mean,
how so that's the biggest thing right now

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and the next September twenty three of
looking sad because of these things. I

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mean, you know this you talked
about. Just think about the scheduling aspect

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that because here and that means so
the massive parts of the parts of the

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parts. That's the answer to what
I would do right now. I would

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and I know they're doing this is
get the break people you can with the

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best thought you can in terms of
what is that next step. And and

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of course the legal the legalities of
all this, and Jay that you with

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your brothers, the British background and
things like that, he's going to stand

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it better. There's just much legalities
and still there to be figured out.

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That the fact help and money AND's
golle. So guys, there's no there's

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no one shoe fixall. There's no
in the answer. It's not a thing

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that well we'll do a B and
say and then we'll be okay. I'm

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just a really tough thing in a
really short time drink. It's all so

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in all this, like you said, you don't know what things changed from

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hour to hour, seemingly your day
to day. Uh. And since two

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thousand, let's say twenty twenty.
Uh, you talk about nil they image

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and likeness, You talk about the
turnover of the PAC twelve pack twelve,

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you talk about the pandemic and the
money lost. I guess there were forty

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five million dollars in debt, right
right. I think so many things have

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happened, and it's not a quick
fix. All this is not a quick

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fix. You kind of have a
lot of balls in the air. Say

409
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there's a ton of balls in the
air, and you just absolutely by saying

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what you just said, I just
reached on the corner of my desk for

411
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my bottle of Ecceedron to mc cedrin. Even though I'm not involved that way.

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It's just thinking about it. The
number of balls. And again just

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to think that you mentioned right there, you know, the realignments and so

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on, the NI hell that the
portal so many moving parts that in some

415
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ways, and you guys know this, in some ways that affects All those

416
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things are interrelated. All of those
things affect each other. And it also

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affects universities in terms of the development
fund, rage and how that goes on

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in terms of the activists or the
university. So there are so many things.

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Anybody who says they have an answer
or has to figure out, they

420
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won't work another hour in the rest
of their life because they will make that

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much money on the consulting tour.
Yeah. So you know, one of

422
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the things that we always ask,
like we want to talking to a coach

423
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or a player, you know,
how do you watch the sport that you

424
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were involved in? Right? We
had Randy Robbinson yesterday we were talking about,

425
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you know, how does he watch
a football game? You are an

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athletic director for all these years,
how do you digest college athletics? So

427
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you know, what do you pay
attention to? Uh, you know,

428
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were so many things going on,
but say there's a football game in Arizona.

429
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Football game, or are you an
LV football game or you know,

430
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basketball game or whatever. How do
you digest your sports having the experience that

431
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you have, Jay, It's a
great question. I think the thing I

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do now at this stage in life, and that my career and so on

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and so forth with kids and grant
kids and so on. I really try

434
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to watch and enjoy it for the
enjoyment and not think of all the ramifications

435
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because if I get too deep into
the ramifications of what that touchdown pass might

436
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mean or if it was you know, last weekend, whether it's the Wildcats

437
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and the UTAB and I thought the
Cats played great, but the Colorado Colorado

438
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was taking the number of kind of
things. So I try not to get

439
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my head get too much in the
way of my heart and just kind of

440
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enjoy it for the spirits event,
because I couldn't do that the days that

441
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I was working in AD because everything
was so important in terms of bottom line

442
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and other kind of things. What
was the crowd like, what was the

443
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weather like? Uh, what was
the injury situation like? And regardless,

444
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it wasn't just football because in everything, the kinds of things, what could

445
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what could happen later today that we
don't know about that. We had no

446
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idea. I mean, just last
night's a great example in terms of Nick

447
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Chubb and the running back to Cleveland, in terms of how hard he's worked.

448
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So I'm not trying to the philosophical
guys, but there are just so

449
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I've watched it and answer your question. I just try to watch it now

450
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for the pure enjoyment of young people
competing and trying to do the very as

451
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they can. And then you know
what the greatest thing is. And I

452
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care about the wildcats, and I
care about the Cougar, I care about

453
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the rebels, and I care about
the Saluti. Care about all those things.

454
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But I don't have to wake up
or go to bed Saturday night and

455
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wonder what I feel like when I
get up Sunday morning. No, no,

456
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without questions, without question. I
remember talking to you a number of

457
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times about this. It's like it's
like back in the day when we talk,

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you had five hundred and fifty.
I don't know how many student athletes

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back there, but they're all kids, and something overnight could happen. And

460
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the worst thing when you get a
call past midnight, you never get a

461
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.359
good call as midnight, right,
see if we talked about that. You

462
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know, so many times you never
knew my dad, just to say that

463
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anybody that fellows you after midnight,
quoth or whatever, nobody's ever calling you

464
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to say, hey, you know
what a fuck your birthday tomorrow are.

465
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When I got calls after midnight,
typically something was wrong that needed and immediate

466
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attention. It was most things that
we'll say, hey, Kbosi late at

467
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.359
night, we'll talk about later all
No, it was something that needed media

468
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attention. So and that's true in
life, guys, for you, guys,

469
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for everybody when you get calls,
and it seems like there's a correlation

470
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that the earlier in the morning that
the call came after midnight, the more

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serious it was. Right. Hey, the nice thing now is I don't

472
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worry about those kinds of I worry
about it in terms of kids and grand

473
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kids certainly, but I don't worry
about in terms of student athletes, because

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you're right, with all the number
of different directions we would have going on

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with student athletes and all of our
different sports. Hey, young people are

476
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young people, and sometimes they're not
always going to make great, sometimes not

477
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even good decisions based on time,
place, and where they are So one

478
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.559
another thing that we talked about back
in the day you came you left Arizona

479
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nearly at the beginning of the social
media at times, and the Twitter and

480
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:54.079
the Facebook and all that. I'd
like to call it crap, but back

481
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:55.839
in the day, it was the
start of it. And I know,

482
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.880
being in your office one time and
you said, you know what, Steve,

483
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you could tell those comments or some
of the comments back then we're coming

484
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.680
like after midnight and people on the
internet kind of trolling and say, you

485
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.799
know, Jim Living Good socks and
the Specimo tief sucks and blah blah blaces.

486
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.359
Yeah, I don't pay attention to
that because it's that two o'clock dude.

487
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:16.799
Right, he's got a few bubblies
and you know he's just talk now

488
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:21.880
you hear at twenty four seven.
Well, Stevens exactly right, and those

489
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kind of things. I mean,
that was one of the things that you're

490
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:28.119
right, I missed a good part
of that during the time here at Arizona.

491
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:31.359
And the amazing thing and of course
it's it's more true now, much

492
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more true every day now is people
on whatever device, not just necessary to

493
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the cell phone, but whatever device
you're using the minute you and I'm talking

494
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.480
generically, guys, not to you
both that the minutes to hits Sam.

495
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:49.880
It's Sam. It's not something that
well, we can recapture that. And

496
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.920
so many things are done now for
and you understand this better than I do,

497
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:57.839
because you guys are in the profession. So many things are done for

498
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.240
flip. So many things are done
for sound by, so many things,

499
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:05.839
things that whether it's a student athlete
or an athletic director or a coach or

500
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whomever, so many things are done
that if you just had a little bit,

501
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:15.320
a little bit of time to kind
of rethink that, we probably wouldn't

502
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.719
say it because you know it's going
to be a sound bite. You know

503
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:22.559
it's going to be something in somebody
social media circle that's going to be out

504
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:27.239
there. And once it's out there, guys, it seemed as a fossil.

505
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.480
I mean, once it's out there, it must be true because it

506
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.559
was Hey I saw online? Yeah, absolutely right, one more glass thing

507
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.360
at least for me. Did you
realize, I'm not sure you realized that

508
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:43.679
you created a monster on this little
kid from northern northern New Mexico, small

509
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:47.199
town, northern New Mexico. Now
the contest a monster out there. What

510
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:52.639
did you do at Washington State with
this kid? He is? He's a

511
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:54.639
beauty. He I say, where
he is. It's like having I tell

512
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:59.800
Jeremy and Michelle all the time.
I like having another son because basically,

513
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.599
you know, my first hitter rationalist
Chris was when he was twenty two years

514
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:09.519
old at Washington State when I hired, had had stain shells and the Latin

515
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:15.159
fields met. But he's done an
amazing job and he isn't not a hotbed

516
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.480
of hotbeds. Now, I got
you guys, as you well know.

517
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.480
Now he stayed handsomely for that.
Yeah, well it's not like that.

518
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.400
He is, he's hurting bread,
but he's a dandy, does a great

519
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:29.519
job, and he handles the pressure. Well. He's got a great wife

520
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:31.719
and the two great daughters. And
we're the as you probably will know,

521
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:37.519
we're the the god parents too,
Sophia. Okay, that's cool, that's

522
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.880
very cool. Yeah, well,
Jim appreciate, we appreciate the time.

523
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:45.079
This has been fun. We love
we love talking to you. You're saying

524
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.639
you're such a positive guy. Right. Steve and I were talking about how

525
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.920
all the athletic directors here have really
been pretty good. Guys, you know,

526
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.880
going back to said Dempsey United,
No, Dave's track. But you

527
00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:00.400
know that even even when we ask
you a question that you just don't want

528
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.159
an answer, you always answer it
anyways kind of in your case, with

529
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.159
a smile on your face. We
always appreciate that. Jay for saying that.

530
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.119
I appreciate that more than you know. But guys, you think you

531
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appreciate what you do, and anytime
I can beself in any way, Hey,

532
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:16.840
thanks for who you are and what
you do, both of you,

533
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.280
both Steve and Jay. Okay,
thank you, Jim, Thank you,

534
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.960
Thank you, Jim. Take care
the afternoon, so you send you.

535
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.920
Thank you, Jim, love and
good look talk Really dude who always had

536
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.519
a smile on his face. Yeah
yeah, and you never knew if the

537
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:32.360
bad news was coming. You know, he would have bad news, but

538
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:36.159
somehow you'd figure out a way to, you know, to make it not

539
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.320
seem so bad. I always always
thought that about him. Pretty cool,

540
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.639
Okay, cool, all right,
let's take our breakwhen and come back.

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it's tough, Jim, you know,

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Okay, always a good guy and
good to talk, fun to talk to,

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dot DraftKings dot com slash football terms. So yeah, no again, it's

624
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really really interested to hear, you
know how somebody like that who's been in

625
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.400
the position that he was in,
how he you know, watches sports right,

626
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:50.039
because when you when you, I
mean, I think back to the

627
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.840
time that no question, when I
left it, when I left covering sports,

628
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:57.039
and I went back to just being
a fan, and even like at

629
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.159
a U of a football game,
I'd be sitting at the stadium, all

630
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.920
right, and I was I was
like kind of holding back a little bit

631
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.840
in terms of just being an all
out fan. Yeah, you know,

632
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:08.559
I was still take it. I
didn't see quite right for me to be

633
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:13.679
jumping up and down and sure,
you know, yelling and screaming and stuff

634
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.559
and uh and you know when you, as Jim said, you know,

635
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:21.000
you live and die with every game
of every ensure, every sport. Sure,

636
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:22.760
right when you're an athletic director.
But now you know he gets to

637
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.440
just kind of sit on the side
and let somebody else worry about all the

638
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:29.920
craptic goes on. No question,
no, no question. This why I

639
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.119
don't get involved like that. Ja. That's and that's the damn rams.

640
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:38.000
Every so many times I get involved
because you I want to enjoy the game.

641
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:39.599
I'm not like you. I'm not
going to put the juice on it

642
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:42.960
just to enjoy the game. I
just want to enjoy the game because I

643
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.079
don't want to I want to avoid
the stress. Should I take that as

644
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.599
like a shot of the shot across
the bout? No, No, not

645
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.920
like you, because you you do
it, because you do it just you

646
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.440
would have I. I you know, I didn't give a crap about even

647
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.320
either game last night, nor you
would have you right? And I wouldn't

648
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.159
have. But you know, I've
known over over time in football pool and

649
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:06.880
stuff like that that home doog on
Monday night is a thing. And so

650
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.840
I just threw a little you know, I had a I had a free

651
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:13.400
bet, all right, so it
wasn't my money, and I put you

652
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:15.639
know, I took a two team
part lay on the two homedogs last night

653
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.000
and I hit it. Yeah.
No, it's fun and it's not enough.

654
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:21.920
It's just who you are, and
it's who I am in terms of

655
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.000
enjoyment. That's why I don't cheer
for the Cowboys. I don't cheer for

656
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:29.159
the red I just kind of watched
the game. It's funny because he he

657
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:32.880
probably has a better enjoyment of things. Now you can just go okay,

658
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.159
I mean I can imagine Jim,
you know, on a Saturday, you

659
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:37.559
know, hanging out wherever he hangs
out, stand on the couch, you

660
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:43.199
know, watching some games, flipping
channels and you know why you don't watching

661
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.679
Arizona and not. I'm sure he
cares, but he knows that. As

662
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:49.159
he said, I don't have to
get up on Sunday morning to hear about

663
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.639
it. Yeah right, And and
that that that's just an interesting, an

664
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:57.519
interesting way of of going, you
know, after you've been in a career

665
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.440
like he was in no question,
as we get older, as we get

666
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.760
older, and now not at the
tail end, but kind of near the

667
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.800
end, we're glad that we don't
have to cover games, I mean covered

668
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:12.280
bike. The calls, well,
we kind of talk about them. We're

669
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.119
react reactor, We watch them and
pay attention, but you know, we

670
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.400
just have whatever our natural reaction.
We're not digging into it, right.

671
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:22.320
I mean the conversations you know I
have with you here, I'm having with

672
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:24.320
you know, my friends that I
hang out with when we talk about the

673
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:28.000
game, it's kind of the same
conversation. I think you and I go

674
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.320
a little deeper because we you know, we should. We know, that's

675
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:35.400
what that's what people listening to us
on you know, are hoping to get

676
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.280
from us. But in a large
part the conversations we're having in here,

677
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:42.480
our conversations that I have with whoever, sure, Sure, and it's it's

678
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.360
you know, I think our crowd
is the older crowd. We skew a

679
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:49.960
little older, which is which you
know, our our demographic, which is

680
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.599
fine, which is fine. It's
just fine. No, it's good to

681
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.159
have them on the show. Anybody, We got about six minutes. If

682
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:58.079
you feel like calling, give us
a call. We'd like to hear from

683
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.320
you. A lot of stuff going
on. The Delora thing, somebody.

684
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:04.360
Another guy just sent me the Delora
thing. We talked about it. All

685
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:07.320
right, we'll see how that plays
out. But I don't think the next

686
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:13.159
eight games. Eight games, yeah, eight nine games. I'm still hopeful

687
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:15.360
that that it's gonna be. It's
not gonna be easy on him on the

688
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.079
road. It's not you know,
he's you know, they gotta go to

689
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.880
well. Yeah, they don't give
a crap about stuff like that. Yeah,

690
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.599
but yeah, but you know,
but they do if they have something

691
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.800
to mock before they will. Actually
they're very good at that. I mean,

692
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.639
the band has been kicked out of
games for stuff. They look to

693
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:38.920
the best, the best places to
ever sometimes ever watch a game, Maples

694
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:44.719
Maple's Court. Maybe those dudes were
still Obviously they're smart, right, and

695
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:49.719
they're smart assets exactly. Yes,
we have a caller. You're on the

696
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.199
air and I on the ball.
Hey Jay, this is done. How

697
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:58.320
are you guys doing? Pretty good? Don what's up? Hey? Something

698
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:04.679
that's kind of lugging me right now
because I haven't heard anything is going forward

699
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:09.599
next school year in the Big twelve. Are we gonna have a viewing option

700
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:14.599
like the Pac twelve network to be
able to watch the non revenue sports,

701
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:19.719
you know? Because yeah, I
think they're working on that. Yeah.

702
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.800
I think I think that with the
new contract, you you're you're probably gonna

703
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:28.320
need something like ESPN Plus, you
know, to catch some of that stuff

704
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.079
because you go on there, like
go on this, I know, just

705
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.400
I don't know if you have any
an ESPN Plus accompany. If you go

706
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.239
on ESPN Plus and you look through
the directory of stuff that's on, it's

707
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.559
all that stuff. So that's I
think. I think that that's where you'll

708
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:44.559
a lot of stuff on there.
Yeah, so done. I think that's

709
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:47.440
where you'll find it. So done. How vigilant are you doing this for

710
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:57.960
minor sports? Well, I mean, my granddaughter was born almost a year

711
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:00.920
ago, and I didn't get to
go to any base ball games this year,

712
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:07.360
so I watched a lot of UFA
baseball on the network. I watched

713
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:12.599
a lot of some of some of
the softball. And then when you see

714
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:16.719
when you see women's basketball against the
ranked team, or the volleyball team in

715
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:22.440
a match or whatever. I would
watch. I would watch UFA Sports like

716
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.400
every other day. It seems like
for you, well, you're gonna have

717
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:30.440
to you know. You realize though, there's now sixteen teams in the league,

718
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:32.960
so it's probably gonna get spread a
little dinner. But I would imagine

719
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.400
things like women's basketball, you're gonna
see a lot of that. I believe.

720
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:38.760
It's like, I think that's the
deal, right, isn't it ESPN

721
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.719
plus work. All that stuff is
gonna be because there's not gonna be a

722
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:49.119
PAC twelve network anymore. Yeah,
but a lot of a lot of the

723
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:52.159
games that were on the PAC twelve
network we're on that. We're on the

724
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:58.719
app anyway. We're like, especially
the UFA baseball games, there was a

725
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:02.840
camera behind home plate and no sound, no nothing, and there's a game,

726
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:07.079
well then you could just watch it. Those are things that those are

727
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.920
things that the schools do. They
can, you know, if a game

728
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:15.480
is not going to be on a
network, they can do their own broadcast.

729
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:19.559
And that's where you see. It's
kind of you know, the product

730
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.280
is kind of minimal, but you
still you still get the game, right,

731
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:29.440
whether it's a softball game. The
schools can stream stuff on their own,

732
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.480
and the UA does a good job
of that, and I hope,

733
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:36.239
I hope they continue it. It'd
be nice for it to be on a

734
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:39.239
format like the PAC twelve network or
if it's if it's ESPN Plus, that's

735
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:45.599
great. You know, hopefully the
Big twelve poaches a bunch of that,

736
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:49.840
the PAC twelve network folks, right, because you said, I wonder what's

737
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:53.039
gonna happen to people like uh like
Yogi Roth, Ashley Adamson, you know,

738
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:57.199
all those people that do the studio
shows that you'd like to think that

739
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.679
they'd have somewhere to go, whether
it's the Big twelve or wherever. Yeah,

740
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:06.880
it would be nice because it's it
was good programming, Yeah it was.

741
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:08.840
It was a bad plan the way
they launched it, and then they

742
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:13.320
never launched a NAP. I mean, we could have They could have made

743
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:17.199
up a lot of the money that
the pack the old PAC twelve teams were

744
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:20.719
looking for. They could have made
up a lot if they would have just

745
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:24.400
sold it as a NAP as a
streaming service, right, because I would

746
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:29.000
have bought it instead of using somebody
else's password. Oops, did I say

747
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.400
that out loud. Who do you
live? Done? I live? I

748
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:38.880
live over on the West Side.
Alright, alright, don we gotta ru

749
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:44.599
appreciate it. Thanks Budge. I
have a good one. Guys. Yeah,

750
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:46.760
you know. I well, okay, you know Direct TV doesn't have

751
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:51.800
Sunday Ticket anymore. So I greatly
trained off my my daughter's student account,

752
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.400
you know, for a couple of
years for Sunday Ticket. Now I'm paying

753
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:59.679
full price for you know, it's
nearly five hundred dollars. Oh wow.

754
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.360
Well I split it with my brother, okay, because you can do you

755
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.119
can, so he can watch it. I can watch it at the same

756
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:08.920
time. So there's a couple of
I paid. It's actually it was turned

757
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:12.559
out to be four hundred and eighty
dollars who paid. So that's how we're

758
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.559
different. I just turned on the
Red Zone and I'm i gotta watch my

759
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:20.280
games. I'm gonna watch my games
and watch my team. I look an

760
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:22.559
easy Sunday morning, so it makes
it for an easy Sunday morn. You

761
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:27.840
can flip channels and watch whatever you
want. I'm gonna I'm gonna say the

762
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:34.599
Sunday Ticket now much improved over in
terms of watching multiple games all at once.

763
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:37.400
Okay, okay, look better.
It's five hundred bucks. Yeah,

764
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.639
it is. It is, and
you and you gotta you gotta know how

765
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:44.719
to navigate it to it's it's not
you know, it's a it's a totally

766
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.800
streaming thing. But I sat down
and watched, you know, because first

767
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.239
weekend of the NFL, I was
I was in San Diego, so I

768
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:52.920
really couldn't do it. But uh, this last Sunday, man, I

769
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:57.400
was a couch potato, had a
great time. All right, let's take

770
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:02.599
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771
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.480
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