1 00:00:17,679 --> 00:00:20,839 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode over You're Wrong with Molly 2 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:25,160 Hemmingway and David Harsani. Molly, do we have a dress code at the 3 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:31,039 Federalist Not to my knowledge. I think we have a general culture that encourages 4 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:37,840 the wearing of pants when in the presence of other colleagues. Thank god. 5 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,399 I don't see you guys personally that often now, but I do wear pants, 6 00:00:41,439 --> 00:00:43,920 but I dress. I can't remember the last time I wear suit. 7 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,159 I'm not a big fan, but if I were in the Senate, I 8 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:55,399 believe I would wear a suit and tie every day because it's an incredibly you're 9 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,840 you're making incredibly important decisions about life and death, about war, about taxes, 10 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:03,799 about other people's lives. And if you dress like a complete lazy if 11 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:07,400 you're a lazy slab and you wear hoodies to do that, I think it 12 00:01:08,599 --> 00:01:15,840 sullies those decisions, undermines those decisions, and is un serious. Yeah. 13 00:01:15,879 --> 00:01:19,000 I don't know why it bothered me so much to learn that they were dropping 14 00:01:19,239 --> 00:01:23,840 that. Senator Schumer unilaterally decided to drop a dress code for the senators while 15 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:30,000 still keeping one for everyone who works for a senator. It just seems like 16 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:38,000 this late stage republic sign of decline to not just have a basic sign of 17 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:44,120 respect for each other in the Senate. And I get that Senator Fetterman is 18 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,799 depressed and doesn't like to put on a suit, and I understand that, 19 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:56,319 I truly understand that, but it just does not seem like it's helping him 20 00:01:56,319 --> 00:02:01,680 even to lower the standards to accommodate his mental health issues. Is that? 21 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,319 Is that why he doesn't get dressed up because he's depressed, isn't it? 22 00:02:07,359 --> 00:02:10,039 I don't know, but I'll tell you something. Dressing that way would make 23 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,039 me depressed, makes me more depressed, right Like, if you're just hanging 24 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,080 around in your house and you're not taking care of yourself, which it seems 25 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:22,159 to me he does not look like he takes care of himself properly, that 26 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:24,719 would make me more depressed. But oh sorry, no, no go. 27 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,240 I'm I've suffered a little bit from that myself. And one of the things 28 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:31,800 my husband always tries to do is just like get me up and going, 29 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,719 like it's a very important thing to have people around you encouraging you too, 30 00:02:37,159 --> 00:02:40,400 you know, just put on the clothes and get up, And the more 31 00:02:40,439 --> 00:02:44,120 you act like a functional human, the more you end up being a functional 32 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:47,439 human. But also it's just one of my problems with the way he dresses. 33 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:53,479 Isn't that it's sweat shorts and hoodies, which is inappropriate for any outside 34 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:59,840 dress, much less in the Senate. It's that those clothing items always look 35 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,520 like they're really dirty and grimy, which makes me feel worse to look at 36 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,120 him. That he doesn't seem to be keeping himself clean and knowing how to 37 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:12,599 keep his clothes clean, Like that's that's a that's a problem. I want 38 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:16,280 people who love him to take care of him a little better. Well, 39 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,919 two things on this I have, and then you know, we can move 40 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,000 on. But one, I wouldn't mind dropping the dress code if it was 41 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:28,800 for some senator who was eccentrically you know, like some maybe he was from 42 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,719 you know, his cult, his roots go back to another country and he 43 00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:35,719 has some kind of different kind of you know, clothing he wears or her 44 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:38,520 or whatever. But this we're changing the rules so someone can dress like a 45 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,439 slob. Secondly, he used to have a better He used to have better 46 00:03:43,479 --> 00:03:46,639 attire when he was a candidate, when he was a mayor of whatever town, 47 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,080 he was a mayor of like, he's gotten worse when he came to 48 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,599 the Senator. He dresses worse now, he looks less kept. Now that 49 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,719 is not normal. What if he's just like all a desperate cry for help, 50 00:03:55,879 --> 00:04:00,560 Remember he has the stroke. They make him stay in the race. 51 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,800 His wife, who seems very you know, lady macbeth, like keeps him 52 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,639 in the race. Then he's in such a bad situation that esco to Walter 53 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:15,080 read for impatient mental health help and she do you remember during that time she 54 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,000 was like sending out notes about how happy she was on her vacations, like 55 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:23,279 if my husband were in the hospital, would I would stay nearby? But 56 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:28,319 anyway, and nobody is letting him leave, and maybe he's just like, 57 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,800 what if I start dressing like a dirty slob, They'll have to understand the 58 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,240 seriousness of this situation. And instead Chuck Schumer was like, hey, buddy, 59 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,800 we need that vote. You're going to stay and we're just going to 60 00:04:39,959 --> 00:04:44,319 drop the dress coat for you. Yeah, that's a good theory. Actually, 61 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,720 I mean, there's something not right about that guy. He wasn't listen. 62 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,160 I know he's struggling with certain things, and I'm sorry for that, 63 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,720 but that doesn't mean that he should be in the Senate. I mean, 64 00:04:54,759 --> 00:04:59,000 what I'm saying is he cannot fulfill his obligations and duty is as a senator, 65 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,079 clearly, and then he shouldn't be there and he should deal with whatever 66 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,360 he needs to deal with. But anyway, I just I don't know why 67 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,439 it bothers me either, because I'm not big on dress codes and stuff. 68 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,160 I just it's it just I don't know, it's just it's just annoying. 69 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,839 Let's move on to more serious topics. Yeah, I don't know because I'm 70 00:05:19,879 --> 00:05:24,439 struggling with it myself. Why this annoys me so much? Like I'm button 71 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:28,240 holding senators to be like, what are you doing about this? This is 72 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:33,279 a problem. But it really does feel like an insignificant thing that's also significant, 73 00:05:33,319 --> 00:05:36,399 Like it shouldn't matter that much, but somehow it does. It is 74 00:05:36,439 --> 00:05:42,199 a sign that we don't respect ourselves. How you dress is a way of 75 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,000 showing respect to others while also showing you you know something about your own identity. 76 00:05:46,439 --> 00:05:51,800 I love fashion. I love I love that as an art form and 77 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:58,360 as a communication style. And when you say like this doesn't matter enough for 78 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,720 me to bathe or like this doesn't matter enough for me to put on a 79 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:05,519 clean item of clothing, or this doesn't matter enough for me to put on 80 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:13,040 clothing that signifies that I'm an adult. It affects the institution. And I'm 81 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:15,959 not saying that a lot of these people who are dressed by adults aren't also 82 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:23,160 making a mockery of the institution. They are. There's basically no leadership in 83 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,680 the Senate. And Mitch McConnell puts a suit on every day and Chuck Schumer 84 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,920 puts a suit on every day, but they were overseeing the destruction of a 85 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,839 once great institution. So I'm not like naive about the real problem. But 86 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:46,079 these basic standards of civility matter for being in community with other people and having 87 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:51,000 order. Just the chaos of it all is very disconcerting. That's a good 88 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,600 point, and I think it'd be more forgiving and let that it matters of 89 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:58,199 this sort of thing if Federman was actually a really you know, sharp bright 90 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:02,160 mind who gave soaring speak and had new ideas for us and you know, 91 00:07:02,199 --> 00:07:04,920 but he's none of those things. He can barely put a sentence together. 92 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:10,360 No fault of his own, I guess. But when I see him interviewed 93 00:07:10,399 --> 00:07:15,079 and mocking people who are bringing this up. It also rubs me the wrong 94 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,800 way because he's making a mockery of the Senate. And you say he's mocking, 95 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:25,120 I think it's his staff who aren't stroke victims are running his social media 96 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,800 accounts. He's not running his social media accounts. So when you see him 97 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,759 mocking people who have commented on the dress code, that's just like the twenty 98 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:40,360 four year old, you know, into young staffer who's trying to lean into 99 00:07:40,439 --> 00:07:47,800 the persona of a fetterman who's not mentally diminished. And you know, it 100 00:07:47,839 --> 00:07:51,920 does show that you can be a senator and basically not even really be making 101 00:07:51,959 --> 00:07:55,800 any of the decisions. You know, you have an entire staff. You'r 102 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,879 handlers, people who tell you what to do. And that's what's going on 103 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,319 here. I mean, it's clear David Senator Diane Feinstein's daughter has power of 104 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:11,160 attorney over her and she's still a senator. Yeah, Mitch McConnell has these 105 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:16,680 brain freezes, which we're told we have to believe is a result of dehydration. 106 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:22,879 On that note, I have talked with many senators who what frustrates them 107 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:28,920 is not that Mitch McConnell will, in the words of the way one person 108 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,800 put it to me, only leave in a casket, you know, like 109 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,679 he refuses to step down even though he's having all these troubles. It's that 110 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,360 they're being told that they have to just accept this patently absurd claim that his 111 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,879 brain freezes, which happen in front of a live you know, national audience, 112 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,240 are the result of dehydration. You know, they need real leadership. 113 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,240 We are at a very bad time in the country. We have a regime 114 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:58,399 that is trying to imprison its political opponents and prevent the right of people to 115 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,000 vote for whomever they want to. It would be kind of a good thing 116 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:07,559 to have an opposition party that acted like that was not okay, And instead 117 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:13,159 you have Mitch McConnell brain freezing all over the place, agreeing with Chuck Schumer 118 00:09:13,279 --> 00:09:18,279 on everything, like on this budget battle that's going on, saying nothing to 119 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:22,960 stop what is a deeply alarming situation for a lot of people. And anyway, 120 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,240 I just heard heard from more than a few senators that it was the 121 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,440 being lied to about how serious the problem is that is bothering them more than 122 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,679 anything. It hit me the other day because when Federman was running and he 123 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:39,519 had a stroke, some doctor came forward and said, oh, he's fine, 124 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:41,919 he's already back to being normal almost. You know, this one inhibit 125 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,720 his you know, him from running at all. Just a complete lie. 126 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,720 And doctors are constantly and then Mitch McConnell's doctor said he was dehydrated. And 127 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,440 you have these doctors also, Presidential doctors are always coming out and president is 128 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,960 always perfectly in great healthy eighty year old guy. People are perfectly in perfect 129 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,879 good health. It is it's kind of weird that we can't really even trust 130 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:07,480 with doctors say anymore. It's not weird. Actually, it's part for the 131 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:13,679 course lately, speaking of the elderly. This is a good segue. There 132 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,320 have been there are some rumblings David is it David David Ignatius at the Washington 133 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:24,240 Post, who's you know in a pretty important columnist right on the left, 134 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,159 I would say, especially sort of the establishment left, wrote a piece saying 135 00:10:28,159 --> 00:10:31,440 that Joe Budden shouldn't run in twenty twenty four, someone else should run. 136 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,279 And basically I believe his case was that Budd's just too old right to be 137 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:41,320 running and he can't really fulfill the promises and duties in a second term where 138 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,399 he'll be I don't know what will he be eighty four eighty five by the 139 00:10:45,399 --> 00:10:48,320 time it's over. What do you make of this? Do you think there's 140 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,159 not going to be any kind of concerted effort to just, you know, 141 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:56,320 to dispose of Biden? Or do you think this is just a columnist like, 142 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,399 oh my god, I need a topic to write about on a Thursday. 143 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,080 It's not because David Ignatius doesn't write those kinds of columns. He writes 144 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,519 whatever the CIA tells him to write. So people, I said this last 145 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:11,600 week on Special Report, you know that maybe outside of DC in New York, 146 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,919 people don't really care who David Ignatius is. In DC, he's a 147 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,919 reliable spokesperson for the CIA at the Washington Post. So, for example, 148 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,639 when they wanted to do the Russia collusion hoax, in which they falsely claimed 149 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:30,600 that Donald Trump was as secret agent of Russia, he was the guy who 150 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:37,600 legitimized that by putting in the Washington Post that Mike Flynn had had diplomatic calls 151 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:41,480 with Oh, I forget who that ambassador was from Russia who was no longer 152 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:48,519 the ambassador and that the deep State was thinking about pursuing Logan Act claims against 153 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:54,360 him. It just patently absurd, And yet because he said it, everybody 154 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:56,759 went out and they were like, yes, Logan Act. Logan Act a 155 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,279 thing from like seventeen ninety eight that had never been used successfully in a prosecution. 156 00:12:01,799 --> 00:12:05,799 That is also unconstitutional. That says like, unless you're an agent of 157 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:09,559 the government, you're not allowed to don you're not allowed to disagree with American 158 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:16,559 foreign policy, like publicly with a foreign government. Something that would be interesting 159 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,879 in light of oh, I don't know, John Kerry touring Iran at the 160 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:26,080 end of the Trump administration, you know, something like that. But because 161 00:12:28,159 --> 00:12:35,240 Mike Flynn was the incoming National Security advisor, he was having these conversations with 162 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,480 his Russian counterparts like, Hey, I know that at the end of this 163 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:45,080 Obama term they're doing sanctions and stuff, just like stay cool, don't let 164 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,320 things get hot, We're coming in soon. Actually an appropriate thing to do. 165 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,159 And David Ignatius laundered this Russia collusion hoax through the Washington Post. So 166 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,120 when he's saying I don't think Biden should run again, he's not saying he 167 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:03,080 David Ignatius thinks he should be running again. He's saying the people who control 168 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,240 him think that Biden shouldn't be running against So it's super, super interesting, 169 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:11,039 and everybody in DC did take it to be as interesting as it seemed that. 170 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,840 And I don't know exactly what's going on there, is it that these 171 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:20,399 people are extremely worried that looking at the situation now, their plot to indict 172 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,360 their top political opponent and put him in prison seems to be backfiring. That 173 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:28,639 in fact like long ballgame, but odds on right now looks like Trump could 174 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,840 come back. Looks really much like Trump could come back, And they're just 175 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,080 desperate and they're wanting a change because they don't think that Biden, with all 176 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,600 of his corruption, baggage and age and policy failures, will be able to 177 00:13:41,639 --> 00:13:46,840 pull off a win again. I don't know, but it's very very interesting. 178 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:54,279 Hey, y'all, this is Sarah Carter, investigative columnist and host of 179 00:13:54,279 --> 00:13:58,240 The Sarah Carter Show. Thanks for listening to the Federalist. We all have 180 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,919 a heartfelt reason to support blood pressure. In fact, more than half of 181 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:05,679 the US population would benefit from blood pressure support. 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Secondly, he throws Kamala Harris in there as well 198 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:28,279 as not to run, which is very interesting because she's incredibly unpopular. But 199 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:33,039 if so, if it was about age, why is Kamala Harris part of 200 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,360 this duo that needs to step down? She should be running for president, 201 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,279 shouldn't. I mean, she's the obvious next choice, of course, partner 202 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,399 in this successful administration. Right. Yeah, she's done a great job at 203 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:48,080 the border for instance, and whatever else she does, I'm not sure what 204 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:56,399 she does. But obviously the problem here is that if Joe Biden were somehow 205 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,440 pushed out her or convinced to step down, there would be of a civil 206 00:16:00,519 --> 00:16:03,240 war in the Democratic Party, right, I mean, it would change the 207 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:08,039 dynamics of everything, the suppose that successes could not be relied on, because 208 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,559 you know, Biden has taken personal you know, you know, credit for 209 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,600 those things. But also, who's going to run if it's not Kamala Harris, 210 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:18,600 She's not just going to step aside. I mean, it would just 211 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,519 blow up the Democratic Party, wouldn't it. Yeah? I think it would 212 00:16:22,519 --> 00:16:27,759 be very I think they're in the pickle. They know Biden was only able 213 00:16:27,879 --> 00:16:33,120 to be hauled over the finish line in part because of the uniqueness of the 214 00:16:33,799 --> 00:16:37,120 year in twenty twenty, where they had so many not that a lot of 215 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:41,440 these things aren't completely still in place, but they had all the COVID changes 216 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,600 to how you vote. He was able to have an excuse for why he 217 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,799 couldn't campaign, and he was able to be presented as a moderate, something 218 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,840 that is much more difficult to do after four years of experiencing, you know, 219 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:59,519 destruction of energy policy, the economic problems, the completely open border, 220 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,119 a surging crime. You know, all this stuff makes it much harder to 221 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,839 present him as a moderate this time around. Oh but yeah, I don't 222 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:11,079 know, Like I do think, if they're going to make a change, 223 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,759 it should probably be now September, October, November. It gets a little 224 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:19,200 bit harder, I think, to do a change later. And maybe this 225 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:23,160 was a way to sort of see how much they could get someone else to 226 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,279 just throw their hat ring or something. I don't know, like yeah, 227 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:32,519 like a trial balloon. The thing is, it's not the first time. 228 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:36,720 And you often get these stories before elections where someone's you know, about someone 229 00:17:36,839 --> 00:17:40,920 stepping aside for the vice president, or firing the vice president. That's another 230 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,319 story you see a lot before elections. But I just don't see why Biden 231 00:17:44,319 --> 00:17:47,680 would do any of that. He doesn't seem personally like the type of guy 232 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,319 who would step aside for the good of the party or something. The very 233 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,720 reason he's president is because he has zero principles and it was very easy to 234 00:17:53,759 --> 00:17:57,079 mold into whatever you want people to believe he is. He'd take any position 235 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,599 depending on what's going on, and that's what made him a successful you know, 236 00:18:03,839 --> 00:18:07,119 that allowed him to successfully run for president. But let's talk about if 237 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:10,559 if you don't have nothing else on that, and who would if he did 238 00:18:10,599 --> 00:18:15,359 step aside? Who what prospects do Democrats have. I think they have a 239 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,680 pretty thin or short bench, I guess, is what I'd say. I 240 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,160 don't know. I don't understand the Democrat Party as well as I should, 241 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:30,359 and I just always sort of think it's Gavin Newsom or Gretchen Whitmer, which 242 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,960 also has its own problems because that's a white man and a white woman, 243 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:37,559 and the Democrat Party is completely beholden to identity politics. So if you were 244 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:42,839 taking out the first black female vice president and not letting her run or knowing 245 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:48,000 she couldn't collect a single vote, and then replacing her with a white man. 246 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,200 That might be a problem. I don't know. I think it should 247 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:59,599 be RFK J yeah, Junior. Sorry, RFK is dead. Yeah. 248 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,920 I don't buy any of this. So that's why the ignacious thing is kind 249 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,480 of curious to me. I just don't buy that he would step aside. 250 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,920 I don't buy that there there are enough people to make him do it. 251 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:14,759 I don't see any kind of contingency plan for them. I just I just 252 00:19:14,759 --> 00:19:15,920 don't see it. People don't know who news him is in most of the 253 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,680 country, and he's a far leftist. I don't think that flies in a 254 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,759 lot of places. And the way Biden can still sort of present himself as 255 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:26,640 a moderate just because esthetically he's a moderate, I guess, but you know 256 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,839 what I'm saying. So I just I don't don't see it. I don't 257 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:37,519 see it. All right, Well, that answered nothing I wanted to hear 258 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:41,759 that there was some conspiracy afoot. Wait, I have one word say you 259 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:45,119 say about Biden. This week, he's been up in New York and he 260 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:51,559 gave a speech about how like it's one of these democracy is on the ballot 261 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:57,079 things and how the Republican Party is against democracy. And first off, I 262 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,680 really do think people get annoyed when they refer to our country as a democracy 263 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,599 instead of a constitutional republic, which is what we actually are. But we 264 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:12,000 have democratic values infused in our system. And right now, the Joe Biden 265 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:19,480 campaign strategy is to imprison his top political opponent and remove him from the ballot 266 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:26,440 to prevent people from being able to vote for him. Yeah, that's about 267 00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:30,440 as clear an attack on democracy as you can have. Like, that's that's 268 00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:36,759 like at the very top of attacks on democracy. And it's just I'm not 269 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:42,400 surprised that the media and other Democrats are not pointing this out, but it's 270 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,480 a it's a brutal attack. It's one of the hallmarks of a free and 271 00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:51,880 fair election is that people can vote for the candidate of their choice. And 272 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,920 when we say that Russia doesn't have free elections, we're saying that because they 273 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,880 will say that an opposition leaders has fomented it in direction and is not eligible 274 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,079 for the ballot. That's what we mean by they're not doing free elections. 275 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:10,240 So when you're doing it yourself, making false claims about political protests, as 276 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:15,200 an excuse or pretense to remove someone from the ballot so that tens of millions 277 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:22,359 of your people cannot vote for that person. That's an attack on democracy. 278 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,599 Yeah, that's a good point. I'm not sure if you saw. Even 279 00:21:23,599 --> 00:21:29,240 George will who hates hates hates Donald Trump, wrote a column about how corrupt 280 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:32,759 this was try to get him off the ballots. But I would say this, 281 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:37,319 you know my feelings on democracy. The reason that people don't want to 282 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:40,960 call it a democracy, It's not a mistake. They're not just now that 283 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,839 they think they have the votes and that they have more people on their side, 284 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,680 or suddenly they want to turn everything into a direct democracy. That's not 285 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,880 a mistake. And when you say it, they laugh at you when you 286 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,079 say, oh, we're not a democracy. That's so Jejune, you know, 287 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,599 because but there's a reason behind it. Moreover, though, the modern 288 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Democratic Party is authoritarian. That's why they want to take people ballots. That's 289 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:06,920 why the central argument of Joe Biden has been that we need one party rule 290 00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:11,839 or democracies in trouble, which is the most authoritarian thing you can say. 291 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,759 And they act in authoritarian ways and they believe the state should be lording over 292 00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:18,799 your life in very virtually every way. It doesn't forgive what Republicans quite often 293 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:22,759 do that I don't like. But the idea that Democrats are pro democracy is 294 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:30,000 of course a complete joke. They're pro you know, they're pro winning elections 295 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,319 when they can, and they're pro getting rid of candidates when they can, 296 00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:38,680 and they're pro the court's instituting policies when they can unilaterally with the president using 297 00:22:38,759 --> 00:22:42,680 executive orders to govern, et cetera. So it just drives me crazy when 298 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,839 they talk about democracy. For them, democracy is just a euphemism for whatever 299 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:52,400 policy they want to institute. And one of those policies they used to force 300 00:22:52,559 --> 00:23:02,960 US an institute through FIAT and through bogus judicial power is abortion. So let's 301 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:08,160 talk about abortion. Donald Trump gave an interview again. I find it annoying. 302 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,640 And you may disagree that Donald Trump gives interviews to the worst people out 303 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,359 there, which he should, but then doesn't debate other Republican candidates. I 304 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,160 understand why he does it, but it still annoys me. I'd like to 305 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,359 hear his case for some of this stuff, but we can talk about that. 306 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,119 But anyway, she was interviewed, what's her name Christine Welker, Kristen 307 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,279 Welker, Kristin well sees Meet the Press. She's the new host I think 308 00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:33,240 of meet Meet the Press, right, I believe. So they call her 309 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:37,839 a moderator. They don't say it's a host. They say it's a moderator, 310 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,359 which is weird because she didn't interview Trump. She debated him. You 311 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:48,880 know, he did well in part because everyone on the left was furious that 312 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,920 she allowed him on air. They say, in journalism, you shouldn't interview 313 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:02,200 someone you disagree with, who's a former president and highly potential future president, 314 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,319 who's the top front runner of the party that you don't belong to, because 315 00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:11,240 that's what journalism is these days, not interviewing political opponents. And they were 316 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,160 very, very mad, and they were mad because he generally does you know, 317 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:18,279 he's able to get his message out when you interview him. They think 318 00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:22,759 the way to win for their party, which is the Democrat Party, is 319 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:27,160 to prevent interviews with candidates who appeal to voters. You know, I saw 320 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,079 that. I forget his name all the time, but one of these fascist 321 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:36,599 journalism professor dudes on Twitter talking about how he shouldn't be interviewed. The president 322 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,119 Republican presidential candid he was the former president anyway, I thought he actually did 323 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,880 pretty well in that interview in general, except on abortion, which I think 324 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,359 he did not do well. But let's talk. So there's two things to 325 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:55,599 discuss here. I think there's the wet welker lies, her begging of questions 326 00:24:55,599 --> 00:25:00,519 in the form of lies and misleading the public. And you wrote a column 327 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:03,720 about it which really went into it, and I wrote a column about it 328 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:07,039 as well. He wrote we wrote it at the same time, and then 329 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:11,640 it was like, whoops, So yeah, I do actually really quickly want 330 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:18,640 to talk about Kristin Walker's format for her propaganda so she has on Donald Trump. 331 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720 I actually don't have a problem with Donald Trump being on there, only 332 00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:26,359 because he's pretty effective at battling the media. I don't want anybody going up 333 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,640 against him. He's not always like there have been some really bad interviews he's 334 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,440 had, but he's generally pretty good. I like it when you see a 335 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:41,400 Republican politician understanding that the propaganda press is a political opponent rather than someone you 336 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,680 should try to get to like you, and he does seem you know, 337 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:48,160 I don't know, they're I have many conflicted feelings about it, but I 338 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,920 agree with all that. By the way, okay, the format she chose 339 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,640 was to do a taped interview and then after the fact insert what were presented 340 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,519 as fact checks that were not factual and were not checks of things he'd actually 341 00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:06,400 said, but were these desperate attempts to win back the narrative. This reminds 342 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,279 me of something that a radio producer had said to me that they think when 343 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,000 members of the media interview political candidates, they shouldn't have an earpiece in with 344 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:21,359 producers telling them what to ask. It's like an unfair advantage for that debate 345 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:27,640 partner unless the candidate also gets to have people in his ear or her ear 346 00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:32,279 saying what they should say back it is. It's actually kind of true, 347 00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:34,519 right, It's like a weird, unfair advantage. But anyway, she inserts 348 00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:40,319 these fact checks that were not factual, sometimes included outnout falsehoods, or weren't 349 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:45,720 responsive to things. So if Trump said something about the Biden family corruption and 350 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:51,920 how it implicated President Biden, something that's undeniably true and has been spoken to 351 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,720 on the record in sworn testimony, you know multiple business partners being like yep, 352 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:00,119 the business brand was based on Joe Biden being president. And she does 353 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:06,079 a fact check where she's like, there's no evidence at all whatsoever in the 354 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,559 universe that Joe Biden ever benefited in any way from Hunter Biden's business. It's 355 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,599 like, hey, that's not actually what President Trump said. B would the 356 00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:21,799 multiple emails and texts from Hunter Biden claiming that he pays his dad's bills, 357 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,000 you know, be evidence? Would that be evidence? You might it might 358 00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:26,960 not be true. You know, in a court of law, you might 359 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,720 be able to show that he was lying when he claimed that the money he 360 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:37,000 got from the family business of influence peddling went to pay Joe Biden's bills. 361 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,839 Oh, there're also I guess some checks from Hunter Biden to his parents or 362 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:45,359 payments of rent, you know, exorbitant rent payment things like. There's there's 363 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,200 actually quite a bit of evidence that there was a benefit to Joe Biden of 364 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:55,839 his son's running of the influence peddling scheme based on his dad. Also, 365 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,839 it's not a standard journalist journalists have ever used before. And you know, 366 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,279 Adam Schiff would go on meet the press and say, literally, I'll meet 367 00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:07,160 the press and say that he had you know, in contestable evidence and a 368 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,799 smoking gun of collusion, and no one's like we haven't seen the evidence, 369 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,680 or like, you know, they wouldn't even challenge him. And this went 370 00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:18,599 on interview after interview, it went on with the Kavanaugh stuff. It's gone 371 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,519 on forever, and no one ever ever had this kind of fact checking. 372 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:26,799 The whole thing is to intimate that Donald Trump is somehow, you know, 373 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,519 worse than out of the norm, worse than normal politicians, and how he 374 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,440 conducts conducts himself, and he is on some level, but not on the 375 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:38,799 lying level. Joe Biden is just as prodigious or more and of a liar, 376 00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:42,559 and no one does this sort of fact check on him. And I 377 00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:48,240 also just say christ And Walker was only because the she she was one of 378 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,359 the debate moderators in twenty twenty. She was widely viewed as not bad only 379 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,200 because Chris Wallace moderated the first debate, and everyone, including Chris Wallace, 380 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,920 admits that that was a disaster. But it is kind of worth pointing out 381 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,039 that in that second debate, when President Trump brought up his opponent's influenced peddling 382 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:11,599 business, Kristen Walker was like, we got to move on and talk about 383 00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:15,440 how I think you're racist, and she kind of said it repeatedly, and 384 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,599 that is one thing I think, and maybe he did in the full interview 385 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,640 that was chopped. Why you don't like it when Trump goes on these interviews, 386 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,680 he should have said, hey, Kristen, good time to revisit how 387 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:30,200 you were a complete propagandist during the twenty twenty election. And wouldn't let us 388 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:36,119 talk about something that is now involved in impeachment and an impeachment inquiry inquiry? 389 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,720 Oh, Also her question on impeachment was like have you talked to Kevin McCarthy 390 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:45,000 about it? And it turned out that the answer was no. But also 391 00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,119 who cares if he talked to who? He's a private citizen. He can 392 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,319 talk to Kevin McCarthy about like whatever he wants to talk about, including that 393 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:59,240 he thinks that President Biden should be impeached for corruption. Like what his office, 394 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,279 he wasn't allowed to a phone call with the Landscape about investigating corruption and 395 00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:03,599 now these out of office, he wouldn't be allowed to have a phone call 396 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,240 saying like hey, this guy's corupt Like it's just insane, it's just they 397 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:14,160 create they're so sneaky, right, like they create these new standards through questions. 398 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,559 It's the same thing like we talked last week about Aldo Alido refuses to 399 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:22,200 accuse himself like he has no reason to. No one ever did. Former 400 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,839 president can talk to us. He's the former president of the United States. 401 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,240 Is a leader, you like it or not. He's a leader in the 402 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:32,640 Republican Party. He's allowed to talk to people. Barack Obama, there's a 403 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,319 long piece a few weeks ago. Barack Obama talks to people all the time 404 00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:40,119 he's in DC. No one asked him, did you discuss impeachment? He 405 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,640 literally gives speeches saying that Republicans, you know, are racist and against democracy 406 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,640 and so on. So, yeah, it's ridiculous. She's ridiculous. I 407 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,720 just quickly said, I'm I'm not against this interview. I think I've argued 408 00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,920 for a long time. I think you should give interviews to everyone. Just 409 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,759 make sure you tape all of it yourself, as but you should give interviews 410 00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:03,599 to people disagree with you. I think Republicans do pretty well, a lot 411 00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:07,640 of them when they do these sorts of things. I just wish that Trump 412 00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:12,880 was involving himself in the primary debate as well. But I think that that's 413 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:18,720 ship has probably sailed, Like you said the other the watched Aldom Wall Street 414 00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:23,000 podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and 415 00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:27,359 the economy and how it affects your wallet. Flashback to Obamacare, health insurance 416 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,200 costs for employers are set to take their biggest jump in years. How does 417 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,200 this affect you? Good luck getting a raise with inflation still high. Don't 418 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,200 expect to thank you card from those who got subsidized health insurance. Whether it's 419 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,119 happening in DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. Be 420 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,640 informed. Check out the watched Altom Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski on Apples, 421 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:52,799 Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, wait, can 422 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:53,920 I say it before I want to? I want to talk at length about 423 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,319 the abortion things. I've been thinking about it for days, I thought. 424 00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:01,799 The funniest part of the interview is when she asks him something like, so 425 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,839 tell us about the time that you wrestle the Secret Service agent to the ground 426 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:12,480 on January sixth, and the way he looks at her is like, oh, 427 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,559 wow, Like I didn't. I didn't realize you were stupid, like 428 00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:20,160 he looks at her like I did not realize I was dealing with a stupid 429 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,160 person, and then you realize she's she either does believe this conspiracy theory that 430 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:30,160 Donald Trump wrestled a Secret Service agent to the ground Donald Trump like a seventies 431 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,839 something year old man, or that she's pretending to believe it, and it's 432 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,640 all based on this Cassidy Hutchinson testimony where Cassidy claimed she talked to someone who 433 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,759 talked to someone who said this happened, so for it's not even like anyone 434 00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,759 with's claiming firsthand to have done it. Immediately in the aftermath, even far 435 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,480 left media organizations were like, yeah, we talked to the Secret Service, 436 00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:57,839 and don't think that one's true, guys, And nobody else ever corroborated it. 437 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,319 Liz Cheney's January six committee never tried to corroborate it, meaning they didn't 438 00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:05,039 even ask the Secret Service agents because they kind of knew it wasn't true. 439 00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:09,000 But here's Kristin Welker literally pushing it. But it was just funny to be 440 00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:13,440 for him to be like and she she says, so you dispute it, 441 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,759 and he's like, uh, yes, yeah, this is this is not 442 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,759 true. Why would you think it's true. It was just really funny to 443 00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:25,799 watch that portion. It's like if Joe Biden was there, he would be 444 00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:30,839 asked some questions about his accomplishments, and then he would be asked about Donald 445 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,839 Trump and how terrible Trump is. But you know what I'm saying that Democrats 446 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,240 talk about how bad Republicans are, and Republicans have to defend themselves from how 447 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:40,279 bad they are, you know, whether it's true or not. And that's 448 00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:44,279 how these interviews go. It's annoying. I don't know how to fix it. 449 00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:46,000 There's no real way to fix it other than two, as you say, 450 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,079 deal with them as the enemy. Okay. I also want to say 451 00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:54,920 she said there was no evidence that Biden had pressured Garland to indict Trump, 452 00:33:55,119 --> 00:34:00,079 and that's also not true. And it's just really insane that she either pretended 453 00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:05,599 not to be aware or wasn't aware that. In April of twenty twenty two, 454 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,119 Biden's White House laundered the pressure through The New York Times, which is 455 00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:15,559 like the in house newsletter for Democrats, and they had The New York Times 456 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:22,000 publish on their front page that he was frustrated that Trump hadn't been indicted and 457 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,719 that he hadn't said anything directly to Garland, but he had been talking to 458 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,639 other people about it. And then it wasn't like a secret message that was 459 00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,440 passed to Garland. It was put in the New York Times for all the 460 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,239 world to see, so to say that there was no pressure and if that 461 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,360 weren't true, If that were not true, Joe Biden and his people could 462 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,000 have been like, Hey, we're a little worried that that seems like we're 463 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,559 running a pressure campaign through the New York Times, so we want to make 464 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,039 clear that we are not doing that. Nope, nothing like that, or 465 00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:54,519 even you know, leak privately that they didn't do that. Nope. They 466 00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:58,159 were happy to have this in the New York Times. And she said there 467 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,760 was that there was nothing to it, and then finally, oh sorry, 468 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,920 now, I was just saying that no evidence thing is such a stupid red 469 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,599 herring that they constantly throw in. Right, It's like that, as Eddie 470 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,519 Scarry says, do they not know what evidence is? Like? It can 471 00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:15,440 be testimony, it can be emails, it can be received whatever, but 472 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,719 they're supposed to find the evidence that's their job, Like, of course, 473 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,320 there's no evidence. There's no like definitive evidence of everything. People say something, 474 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,639 you know, in politics, that's what their job is to try to 475 00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:28,440 figure it out. But anyway, go on. So also Trump said something 476 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:34,280 about Nancy Pelosi not not taking the steps needed to protect the capital, and 477 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,639 in her fact check, christ and Walker was like, no one blames Nancy 478 00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:44,920 Pelosi for the riot. That's absurd. It's like, okay, it wasn't. 479 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:51,320 I mean, here's the fact of the matter. Nancy Pelosi is responsible 480 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,800 for the security of the Capitol. She oversees the House Sergeant in Arms Mitch 481 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:00,599 McConnell also had responsibilities there. They claim that they had intelligence that there was 482 00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:05,079 bad stuff coming down the pike. You have a police chief who has said 483 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:12,119 publicly and in testimony that he requested help and didn't get it from the House 484 00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:15,920 Sergeant at Arms who is under Nancy Pelosi, and for her to not know 485 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,559 any of that or not like know that Merril Bowser rejected National Guard troops that, 486 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,440 you know, because they had allowed the riots that attacked Donald Trump and 487 00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:30,679 his White House. That was all very important to allow that to continue. 488 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,239 So they couldn't very well, bring in National Guard that would do anything about 489 00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:39,599 January sixth. It just she said repeatedly, you're the commander in chief, 490 00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:45,440 meaning like you control the military. You should have done this, which is 491 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,679 just kind of also interesting that the same journalists who just a couple of years 492 00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:57,000 ago, when they were calling for help in quelling the riots that were destroying 493 00:36:57,039 --> 00:37:00,360 American cities across the country in the summer of twenty twenty, the BLM riots, 494 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,119 you know, they said that that was like so awful that the New 495 00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:08,840 York Times actually fired their their editorial page editor because he published an op ed 496 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,039 from a US senator calling for that. And now she's like, why did 497 00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:19,039 you not bring the US military to bear as commander in chief against American protesters? 498 00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:22,079 I mean, it just she sounded like a crazy person. Yeah, 499 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:30,119 there's no consistency, Okay, yeah about it. Well, I just I 500 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:37,159 found it's I don't know that that the press lies about anything more blatantly than 501 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,519 abortion. I don't know if that's actually true, but it's definitely up there, 502 00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:45,000 right, It's it is up there. And she is a useful straw 503 00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:52,719 man because she unleashed some of the most ridiculous lies about abortion. Do you 504 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,760 want to you wrote a long piece. Do you want to talk about them 505 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,199 one by one or do you want to just overall? Yeah, just to 506 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,760 continue with the aston Walker stuff before we get to how Trump responded. What 507 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:07,360 frustrated me was she was just brazenly lying about Democrats position. So she the 508 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,880 second half of the televised interview was all about abortion, and that's because Democrats 509 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:16,079 are trying to make abortion like an animating issue for their base. And so 510 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:22,800 Trump is responding by pointing out that Democrats are very extreme on abortion. They 511 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,199 support abortion at such an extreme way that they do not believe there should be 512 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,320 limits even at six, seven, eight months of pregnancy. So he's he's 513 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:37,320 saying that. He also said that and sometimes after birth, and that is 514 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,119 as Yeah, they're also true. Yeah. I live in Virginia and our 515 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,079 previous governor had a boo boo where he accidentally admitted that he thought, if 516 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:49,519 you survived, if you're, if you're, if you weren't wanted, you 517 00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:52,800 could be allowed to die after birth. Yes, and that was on videotape 518 00:38:52,840 --> 00:39:00,920 and on audiotape. So she says, Democrats aren't saying that. I just 519 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,840 have to say Democrats are not saying that, and that's a lie. That 520 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,760 is a bald faced, brazen lie. Last year in the United States Senate, 521 00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:16,800 there was a bill that every single Democrat senator except for Joe Mansion voted 522 00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:25,719 for that would prohibit protections for unborn children at the state level. But you 523 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,920 see what she's doing there. It's a pedantic parsing of words. Democrats aren't 524 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:36,079 saying that, saying that they're not in publicly what they actually vote for. 525 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,400 Yeah, like it's like this is also a completely new standard. Now you 526 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:45,239 have to affirmatively say, hey, you guys should go down and get abortions 527 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,519 at thirty weeks, or you actually don't support it, which is a complete 528 00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:52,719 nonsensical way to look at things. Democrats support abortion without limits. They do 529 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,639 it in national legislation, they do it on the state level, and Colorado, 530 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,800 for instance, is one of the worst laws. New Yor and others 531 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,440 have no limits on abortion. And she's just absolutely just a liar. No 532 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,840 one's talking about that is her way of saying that because she looks at it 533 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,719 like this, abortion should be legal because it's a choice. So just because 534 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,159 you think people should have the choice, you don't support it. That would 535 00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:20,119 be like me saying, well, I think people should have the choice to 536 00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:24,199 give violent felons fully automatic weapons, but I have no responsibility for what they 537 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,400 do with those fully automatic weapons, because you know that's their choice. And 538 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,639 that's not even a really good example. It's the best that could come up 539 00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:35,119 with them. But you know what I mean again, Zander Sanctis I quoted 540 00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:37,119 her in my piece. She wrote that the bill is an effort to codify 541 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,800 ROW, not only declaring abortion of fundamental right for any reason throughout all of 542 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,320 pregnancy, but also nullifying any state law that prohibits or regulates abortion. The 543 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,800 bill would forbid state laws protecting unborn children after they're old enough to survive outside 544 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,159 the womb. It would nullify bands on abortions chosen for discriminatory reasons, such 545 00:40:57,159 --> 00:41:00,920 as the unborn child, sex, or diagnosis with a disability. It would 546 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:06,159 prohibit even the most modest regulations, such as informed consent laws, waiting periods, 547 00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:12,559 ultrasound requirements, and even safety standards for abortion clinics. And every Democrat 548 00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:16,000 voted for that, except for Mansion or everyone every Democrat voted voted for that 549 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,519 except for Mansion. And the House had a version, and only two Democrats 550 00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:25,199 didn't didn't vote for it, and Guy Benson noted that in twenty seventeen or 551 00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:30,760 twenty eighteen, Congress voted on a bill to ban abortions after twenty weeks, 552 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,400 which is a wildly popular position, by the way, to protect children at 553 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,840 that point, and ninety seven percent of Congressional Democrats voted against it. Now, 554 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:45,679 only seven countries in the world allow barbaric abortions after twenty weeks, and 555 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:52,760 ninety seven percent of Democrats voted with them. The Democrats National bill also stripped 556 00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:57,920 with strips. So usually you know how Democrats like to say, it's a 557 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,559 decision between a woman and her doctor, meaning any kind of like if you 558 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:06,239 have a migraine, you can get a mental health exception. They took that 559 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,239 away too. You don't need to be a doctor, You just need to 560 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,239 be a healthcare professional, meaning you can be like a psychologist, not even 561 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,719 a psychiatrist, and tell a woman she can get an abort right her, 562 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,079 you know, exception. So it would have essentially allowed abortion forever. But 563 00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:25,000 by the way, even right now in Colorado and Maryland there they're all what 564 00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:30,679 are they called all all I forgot what they're called, but they allow all 565 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,599 trimester abortion shops. Well, what's that guy's named? Warren hearn does it? 566 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,480 And Maryland there's a place, And Warren Hearne, in an Atlantic piece, 567 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,599 admitted, Oh, that's the other thing I wanted to say. He 568 00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:45,039 admitted that perfectly healthy women and perfectly healthy babies are being aborted, and he 569 00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:49,400 was fine with that. And studies have shown, though they don't do them 570 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,880 anymore, that people that women get late term abortions, their trimester abortions for 571 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,239 the same reasons they get abortions at any other times during pregnancy. It's basically 572 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:05,239 just a birth can she lied? Welker said that only one percent of women 573 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,719 get these abortions, and they get them in a state of crisis. That's 574 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,119 not true. It's not a state of crisis. And one percent of all 575 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:19,679 near viable or abortions equals ten thousand or more babies. Does she say, 576 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,400 oh, only one percent of school shootings are you know they're only shooting? 577 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,280 Is only one percent of school shootings? Those shootings don't matter, Those lives 578 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,840 don't matter. She would never say that, but for some reason, this 579 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,960 argument about it only being one percent is if that of a percent of police 580 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,880 interactions result in a shooting by a police officer exactly, so therefore we don't 581 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,360 need to talk about it. Yeah, just complete pro abortion hackery here, 582 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,639 and this is the norm, almost always, it's the norm. Member CBS 583 00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:50,119 had that reporter who was like, who's now an abortion activists? Basically she 584 00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:52,639 hasn't even changed were she You're gonna have to be more specific there. The 585 00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:59,360 CBS had like a what a reproductive rights reporter? Like if you use that 586 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,079 kind of visim, you know it's going to be terrible. And then she 587 00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:05,119 went over and like works for not planned paranoid? What's the one that's even 588 00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,199 worse? I forget there, Nay Rail pro choice America, nayral I think. 589 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,599 Yeah. I just want to say it was my awareness of this issue 590 00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:15,559 and how corrupt the media were about it that awakened my interest in both media 591 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:21,559 criticism and being a reporter, and it continues to animate me to this day. 592 00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:24,760 But let's talk about Trump's response or do you want to say more about 593 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:31,559 No just makes me bad? Okay? So Trump said within this interview that 594 00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:36,039 he believed that the six week ban in Florida, was it specific to that 595 00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:40,000 was terrible? Yes, And this is the thing that made me very angry. 596 00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:45,840 So I think the moment this happened, you had a lot of people 597 00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:50,199 jumping on what Trump said, and some of what they said was unfair, 598 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,000 and we can get to that, but this is what angered me. He 599 00:44:53,079 --> 00:45:00,440 has this stupid strategy of attacking I think anything the Santis has said or done, 600 00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:05,280 that's his strategy for the primary, including all the wonderful things that Rond 601 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,599 de Santis has said and done. And one of the good things that Rond 602 00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:15,320 de Santis did last year after the dab's decision came down, was signed legislation 603 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,400 that Florida had passed, like the Florida legislature passed a heartbeat protection boat. 604 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,159 What that means is once a heartbeat is detected in an unborn child, they 605 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:30,519 restrict abortion from that point on. A number of states have passed these bills 606 00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:37,039 protecting children once the heartbeat can be detected. And Donald Trump says, I 607 00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:38,800 think it was terrible and it was a mistake, or it was a terrible 608 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:45,519 mistake or something like that. And I understand that he was speaking probably politically, 609 00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:52,280 but he's wrong. He's mostly wrong morally, because it's not wrong to 610 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,280 protect children. You can have debate. It's about the proper way to do 611 00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,679 it. But it's not wrong to protect children who from violence in the wound. 612 00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:05,880 But it's also just wrong politically to say it was a mistake, like 613 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,480 if you're saying he's saying it was a mistake politically in that Ron Decant just 614 00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:15,280 won re election after signing that by like twenty points, and you had other 615 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:21,880 governors signing abortion protection restrictions on abortion to protect women and children in Tennessee, 616 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:28,159 in Texas, in Ohio, in Georgia, and all of those governors won 617 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:34,719 reelection. Pro life states not just can, but should pass pro life laws 618 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,000 now that the dab's decision returns the right of the people returns to the people 619 00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:45,159 the right to work on abortion law. So I just it just infuriated me. 620 00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:51,639 Actually, what do you think at the same reaction. First of all, 621 00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:57,800 it doesn't make sense his argument. He bragged about getting personally overturning row 622 00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:02,000 yet he had a lot to do with it, that's for sure, And 623 00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:06,280 then talked about how that people could vote for it and make their own decisions. 624 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,360 But then when they do make their own decisions that are pro life and 625 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:13,119 then are successful, like you just mentioned in numerous states. He calls that 626 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,559 terrible. It is obviously he's running for that. People don't like six week 627 00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:21,760 bands nationally, and he's running for national elections. So he's doing what he's 628 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,920 doing. But there are a million better ways to go about it, even 629 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,079 if you're going to cynically do this thing, and we don't need to do 630 00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:30,840 that. We're writers, we're not politicians. I get he's a politician. 631 00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:34,440 He could say I don't believe in a national national laws the way, but 632 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,480 look, Florida gets to do what they want to do, and if New 633 00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:38,119 York has different ideas they can, I'm going to do it best I can 634 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,159 to bring more, you know, to protect babies, et cetera. But 635 00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:46,599 he didn't do that everything for him where most of what he does to me 636 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,400 seems, you know, very political and not principle based, and that's always 637 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,000 been my problem. I just don't believe he's a conservative, so I don't 638 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,000 think he even knew why what he was saying might offend people who are socially 639 00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:00,239 Okay, this is I have so many thoughts on this, so I want 640 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,239 to say, first off, something nice, which is a lot of Republican 641 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,760 politicians have messed up the discussion about whether this is a state's issue or not, 642 00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:13,280 and you can you can have a constitutional discussion about whether there can be 643 00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:15,519 things done at the federal level. I happen to think it definitely can be. 644 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,840 I know people who I love in respect who think it should just be 645 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,199 a state's issue. The Dobb's decision did not say it is returned to the 646 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,000 states period. It said it was returned to the people, and the people 647 00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:31,480 can operate both at the state level and at the federal level through elected representatives, 648 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,880 okay, or other means. So he actually got that right. She 649 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,039 keeps trying to say, like, are you for or against federal you know 650 00:48:38,159 --> 00:48:40,440 line? And when he's like, I'm not going to take a position on 651 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,199 that, it can be either, and I was like, why can't more 652 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:49,880 Republican politicians figure this out? So there was that there was something else you 653 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,199 just said that I wanted to respe just quickly. That's the Alinsky thing, 654 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,320 where you you force your opponent to live up to their principles where you don't 655 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,880 have any because Democrats have no problem with national laws codifying row as law, 656 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,800 so they but Republicans aren't allowed to fight back in the same way okay. 657 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,039 Now, apart from this, everyone was like, how dare he call for 658 00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:19,440 a fifteen week ban when the real pro life position is abolition, And that 659 00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:23,280 was where I started to lose, Like that annoyed me for the criticism. 660 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,960 I do think Trump should be criticized for saying that heartbeat protection bills are a 661 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,000 mistake. But a fifteen week ban, I think is the official position of 662 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,280 the Susan b Anthony List right like that, that's the next step that Republicans 663 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,159 should go for. It is politically incredibly popular, like a majority of Americans 664 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,840 support protecting children once they reach fifteen weeks of age. Now, I, 665 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,360 as someone who does not believe in killing people, would love that to be, 666 00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:58,960 would love to be have those protections much further back. But politically speaking, 667 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,360 that's not where the country is. So the debate is do you push 668 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,159 abolition? You know, and this was a debate like in slave ry too. 669 00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:07,719 You had the people who were just trying to restrict and restrain the slave 670 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,719 trade or its practice in states, and then you had complete abolitionists. And 671 00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:17,880 you know, even a great great man like Lincoln was not pushing abolition until 672 00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:22,639 until he could, until he could politically right. So this is a political 673 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,239 argument. I actually think it's a pretty smart one to make. Right now, 674 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,360 we have corrupt media and other Democrats trying to position Republicans as being radical 675 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,239 when their views are actually very much in the mainstream of American thought, lying 676 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,440 about the radical nature of Democrats position, and I thought he did all right 677 00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:43,719 in getting that out there at the Democrats. You know, Christian Walker did 678 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,480 her very level best to lie on behalf of killing babies, but he at 679 00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:51,440 least got it out there, and I think more Republicans should be hitting that 680 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,280 point. Yeah. I mean some of the reaction is was from Desanti's people, 681 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,599 and I get it because he was successful in this, and you know, 682 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:05,679 in passing that law focused on that comment and not on his pushback on 683 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,760 how Democrats are radicals, which I think is actually in some ways an even 684 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:15,760 bigger point that needs to be made nationally. But you're right about incrementalism. 685 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,599 The left understands this. They want to socialize medicine, so they pass whatever 686 00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:23,039 they can to move towards that direction, and then they retrench and they do 687 00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:27,960 it again. You can't get everything you want. My position would be anything 688 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,000 that moves us closer to protecting babies. If it's twenty weeks or fifteen weeks 689 00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:34,960 or six weeks, whatever we can get done, whatever I could convince you 690 00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:37,559 to vole for. I am going to move in that direction. And that's 691 00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:40,639 what we should be thinking, not you know, never going to get full 692 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,000 bands right away. And it should be also mentioned that the six week band 693 00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:49,719 in Florida allows for a lot of exemption exceptions for you know, meant for 694 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:55,840 health, for real health issues, mostly for fetal abnormalities, for other things. 695 00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:01,840 It's not as strict, and as you know, sp try to to 696 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,960 frame it. But the third thing I want to talk about is another little 697 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,239 like weird word word usage that bothers me by the media. Everyone calls it 698 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:15,559 twenty week ban or fifteen week ban. It's not a ban. If you 699 00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:20,480 restrict something, everything is restricted in this world. It's you're not banned from 700 00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:23,519 driving because there's a thirty five mile per hour speed limit. It's not a 701 00:52:23,559 --> 00:52:29,920 ban. There are limitations and regulations and restrictions on things. Abortion is not 702 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,079 a right. It's not a right. You don't have a right to do 703 00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:35,960 it anymore than you have a right to drive. So we should stop calling 704 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,559 them bands. In my opinion. It's not a bank you think of regulation 705 00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:42,880 is the right word for it, Yeah, it's you know, Yeah, 706 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,880 I don't know, I have to find the right word. But ban it's 707 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,320 not a week limit limit. If you have a fifteen week limit, and 708 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,199 people hear that that's different than hearing band because they're constantly saying on the media 709 00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:55,559 whenever I watch it that there's bands being passed across the nation, when people 710 00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:59,679 are passing fifteen week bands or whatever it is in Virginia. Yeah, that's 711 00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:01,960 actually really good point. And I'm I always think of it in terms of 712 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,079 maybe it's because I'm a woman who has given birth, but I always think 713 00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:09,360 of it as a protection for women and their children. So you're protected from 714 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:14,480 the violence of abortion at fifteen weeks or at six weeks, So fifteen week 715 00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:17,239 protection would have a very different field than a band, right, Yeah. 716 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,760 Well, and you know, and it does seem like since it is a 717 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:27,079 violent taking human life, that protection and you restrict that that a protection is 718 00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:31,079 a good word for that. But it is interesting how they always and this 719 00:53:31,159 --> 00:53:36,360 goes back to sixties and seventies, they've take over the language, the usage 720 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,800 of words. You can be and that a lot of times we go along 721 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,440 with it because that's how we're taught, that's how we're brought up, that's 722 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,400 what we've read growing up. And then we use the language that they've invented 723 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:50,239 for these things that gives it a certain kind of flavor or framing that is 724 00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:52,960 wrong. I mean, if you think about protecting the baby, then this 725 00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:55,639 is not a band of anything. It's a protection. So that's a good 726 00:53:55,639 --> 00:53:58,719 word, and that's the one I think I'm going to start using. So 727 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,079 I just I also want to and I know that if I were the de 728 00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:06,599 Santist campaign, I would have made a major hey about this interview as well. 729 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:13,920 But I thought people kind of were shortsighted and some of how they went 730 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,719 after this. You know, Trump was a little shortsighted too well, or 731 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,320 maybe he's not. Maybe he just knows he's wrapped up the primary battle so 732 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,000 he can do stuff like this. But there are a lot of people who 733 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,760 care a lot about this issue, and he's been very good at being transactional 734 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,639 with pro lifers, and that's the first time I think pro lifers have really 735 00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:38,360 learned this was through him. I trust Donald Trump to have the right foreign 736 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,880 policy instincts He has shown that again and again and again on the pro life 737 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,360 thing. You know, I know his story about how he became pro life. 738 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:54,559 He has demonstrated a pro life He's done amazing things with pro life policy. 739 00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,800 He deserves a lot of acclaim for being the most pro life president in 740 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:06,719 American history. I don't know if I you know for him. For him 741 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,599 though, I still think it's transactional. I think he understands he got a 742 00:55:08,639 --> 00:55:12,679 lot of support from pro lifers and he had to deliver. What he needs 743 00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:15,719 to understand is he can continue to get that support from pro lifers, but 744 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:22,559 he needs to continue to deliver. His plan for pushing for like a fifteen 745 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:27,000 week protection or something like that is not a bad plan for all the reasons 746 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,199 you stated, But when you say something like heartbeat laws are terrible and that's 747 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,039 what pro lifers are working on, it feels like an attack on the pro 748 00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:39,199 life community. So needs to improve the messaging on that, even as his 749 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:45,400 plan to move things in a better direction for the pro life cause is probably 750 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,880 politically sicked, and it might be if there was any kind of consensus nationally, 751 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,800 which there won't be. As John Davidson wrote in the federalist. There's 752 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:59,000 not going to be any kind because Trump promised that he would bring a truce 753 00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:02,199 on this issue to the American people. But a consensus a fifteen weeks seems 754 00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:06,559 like, I'm actually a pretty fair consensus, not that I think it's moral, 755 00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:10,599 but a consensus for those two groups. But I agreed with John that 756 00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:16,559 it's insane to think that radical, bloodthirsty pro pro abortion people are going to 757 00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:22,280 concede anything or work to have a compromise. But I also think that the 758 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:28,119 way that pro lifers should message is by pushing for something you know, quote 759 00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:30,559 unquote reasonable. It's never reasonable to take the life of a numborn child. 760 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:37,199 But but again, the American people are very much in the camp of protections 761 00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:40,800 around fifteen weeks. They're not yet where they need to be on earlier than 762 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:46,679 that, and so calling for a consensus is different than thinking you'll actually get 763 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:52,119 the far left Democrats to agree to a consensus. Does that make so? 764 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,960 But yeah. Also, by the way, Texas has a ban. I 765 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,599 was reading this story when researching the piece I wrote, where it talks about 766 00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:04,920 how thousand extra babies were born in Texas since the abortion band went into effect. 767 00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:07,039 But I was like confused because the whole, the whole framing of the 768 00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:10,440 piece was how this was somehow like a negative thing not a positive thing. 769 00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:15,400 So it could like I like, I just not compute. But yeah, 770 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,360 I have to say. I mean, for person my age to even if 771 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,079 you had told me twenty thirty years ago when I was growing up, for 772 00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:23,599 instance, that the Roe v. Wade would be overturned, I would never 773 00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:28,039 have believed you. That would I just I would have thought that the First 774 00:57:28,039 --> 00:57:30,400 Amendment could be overturned before Roe v. Wade was overturned. Right, So 775 00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:35,280 I still disagree with you. I thought Roe v. Wade was going to 776 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,880 get overturned. Well, I guess are you saying post Casey, I thought 777 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:43,679 it was going to get overturned ahead of Casey. When Casey came down, 778 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:52,800 I was pretty I don't know, I was very concerned. But looking back, 779 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,880 I'm kind of surprised it took so long. Can I say something about 780 00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:00,079 this case in nineteen ninety two, Casey, that that should have overturned Row 781 00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:05,159 at that point in time, they had to do such contortions. Sandra Day 782 00:58:05,199 --> 00:58:10,880 O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy had to do such contortions to get to where they went, 783 00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:14,960 and it did such damage to I mean, it's just it was just 784 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,920 like absurd what they did. So yeah, I do you know why I 785 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,239 didn't think that way about Casey because I was probably drunk on a couch eating 786 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,280 Derrida, was watching football because I was twenty two, David, So, 787 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,480 okay, sorry, but I just realized, like people are like, what's 788 00:58:28,519 --> 00:58:31,079 Casey? So we're talking about kcv. Planned Parenthood, the Supreme Court case 789 00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:37,639 that should have overturned Rubby Wade in nineteen ninety two and didn't because of Sandra 790 00:58:37,719 --> 00:58:42,760 Day O'Connor and Anthony and Kennedy. But I want to say that when I 791 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,440 was nine I found out what abortion was. I asked my parents. I 792 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,960 had heard about it, and I asked my parents and they told me. 793 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,559 And I still remember, you know, sitting at the kitchen table with them 794 00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:59,119 telling me and just thinking there is no way that that's real. There is 795 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,000 no way that we are doing that to children, And it just changed the 796 00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:06,719 course of my life forever. Like So, yes, when I was nine, 797 00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:08,199 I was thinking that. So I was definitely thinking that. I mean, 798 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,320 oh, did I, David? I used, I was finding these 799 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:17,360 old papers, but I kept in high school. This's like me feeling sickly 800 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,199 sweet about my younger self. And at the end of each year, i'd 801 00:59:21,199 --> 00:59:24,920 put like, what I'd done that year to fight abortion? Oh wow, 802 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,559 I have to be honest with you. I never thought like I didn't really 803 00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:35,639 give it serious thought growing up, you know, And it wasn't until I 804 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,760 was in my early third I always thought it was sort of wrong, but 805 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,840 I didn't care that much. It's just the truth of it. In my 806 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,039 twenties and in my thirties, I didn't want to get too into it. 807 00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:45,639 But this woman near my house got ran over but I hit and run driver, 808 00:59:45,639 --> 00:59:49,760 and she was pregnant. And the big debate was should they prosecute for 809 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,679 two murderers or one? And I thought about the dimensions of that, and 810 00:59:54,719 --> 00:59:59,960 the moral dimensions and the philosophy that says, oh, baby's only a baby, 811 01:00:00,119 --> 01:00:02,239 you decide it is, and how ridiculous that was, and that put 812 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:07,119 me on a path of which I think is not a religious one. Really, 813 01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:09,400 it's more like just rationally thinking about life, though there are obviously, 814 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:14,159 it is about ethic morals and ethics of human life. And that put me 815 01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:17,440 on the road that I'm on right now. And I cannot understand arguments for 816 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:22,000 abortions, certainly not abortion of viable babies that make and none of them make 817 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,480 any sense to me. And that's why people like welk Or can't really make 818 01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:30,639 those arguments for why it's okay. So that's why they have to lie and 819 01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:34,840 diminish the importance of it. And you do what they do and engage in 820 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,559 that kind of propaganda. Okay, And I know we need to get off 821 01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:39,320 this, but I shouldn't say one last thing. I also think that apart 822 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,280 from politics and apart from law, this really is an issue where every single 823 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,519 person needs to think about how they are living their life and how they are 824 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:54,360 helping out the women and unborn children that they may encounter. And this is 825 01:00:54,960 --> 01:01:00,079 something that politics and law can't save us regarding. But we need to be 826 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:06,960 a culture that loves and supports life and defends it and apart from whatever the 827 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,039 laws say as well. Okay, that's an amazing point, because I'm just 828 01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:14,000 my last thing. It's just politics will not solve this in the end. 829 01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:16,519 You have to change the hearts and minds of people, speak to them rationally 830 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:21,519 with the motion as well about this issue and people always tell me, like, 831 01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:23,000 but it's not popular, Like, what do you want to lose elections 832 01:01:23,039 --> 01:01:29,079 forever? If it's okay to kill ten thousand babies who are completely viable, 833 01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:31,880 then what's an election really worth? Right? So I don't care. I'm 834 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,760 not a politician, and we need to convince people that that's immoral, like 835 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,679 we did with slavery. They hate when you say that, but it's true 836 01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:45,360 anyway. Oh, that's a pretty serious issue for me to like segue into 837 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:51,760 culture now, But let's just do it. What's going on with you out 838 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,559 there in the world of music, movies, books. I'm going to see 839 01:01:54,599 --> 01:02:04,639 Peter Gabriel tonight, which I'm pretty scited about. Yeah, how old is 840 01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:09,639 Peter? I can't believe he's like in his seventies. Yeah. You know, 841 01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:13,440 a lot of these people tour now they're cashing in and a lot of 842 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,480 them. For instance, the band I like, you know years ago called 843 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:20,000 Pavement is touring and I see they have these huge crowds. But when I 844 01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:22,159 like them, they're like like a hundred people showed up. Now they're just 845 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,719 massive, and I'm sort of happy for all these people that they get to 846 01:02:25,719 --> 01:02:30,320 make a lot of money now. I guess Peter Gabriel has always been a 847 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,079 big rock star, so it's a little different. I don't know if this 848 01:02:34,159 --> 01:02:37,440 is cultural, but I went to Maine for the first time in my life. 849 01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:42,400 Really, isn't it beautiful? It was like unspeakably gorgeous. I couldn't 850 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,559 believe it. I wanted to stay there, like not come home. Yeah, 851 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,800 May and new Ham, sure, I like a lot as well. 852 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:52,679 Over Month's pretty nice. That's not culture, but that is nice to know. 853 01:02:54,079 --> 01:03:00,599 I have you ever watched this terrible sitcom, The Big Bang Theory. 854 01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:07,800 No, it's on like twenty four seven. I've been watching it and it's 855 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:15,079 pretty funny. It's pretty funny. It's like, how can you say this? 856 01:03:15,639 --> 01:03:20,639 You know? In the it's like just empty calories. It's like chewing 857 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,920 on Twizzlers or something. It's you know what I'm saying, like, doesn't 858 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:29,440 make me think I just wrote like it just reactively laugh when I'm supposed to 859 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:35,760 do like a robot, and I watch episode after episode completely hooked. But 860 01:03:36,159 --> 01:03:40,800 it's but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but I'm watching it. Did 861 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:45,280 I talk about last week? I talk about watching John Wick four? I 862 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:51,400 don't think so. Oh I watched that too, where Keanu Reeves kills about 863 01:03:51,519 --> 01:03:53,960 four or five times as many people as words he speaks in the movie. 864 01:03:54,239 --> 01:03:58,239 That sounds like a good movie. It was all right. It was fun 865 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,639 that the way to the look of the movie, the cinematography and stuff, 866 01:04:01,639 --> 01:04:09,199 it's really inventive and fun to look at. So yeah, I watched that. 867 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,000 My husband and I celebrated seventeen years of marriage. Well, actually didn't 868 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,039 celebrate because I was out. He was out of town and I was out 869 01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:25,159 of town. But we marked our seventeenth anniversary. That's pretty cool. Congratulations, 870 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,480 That's that's amazing. Yeah, well I don't think it's that amazing, 871 01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:31,679 but I do. Like I was thinking about this where we were talking the 872 01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:36,239 other night. It is we really liked being married, and we are enjoying 873 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,519 our marriage, and I don't think we expected to like it. I mean 874 01:04:40,519 --> 01:04:43,519 we you know how you don't know what you're getting into when you get married. 875 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,239 You probably don't think that much into the future. But insofar as we 876 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,480 did, I don't know if we realized just how great it would be. 877 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:56,880 Like it's nice to really get to someone and have their support and everything. 878 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,920 So I think, how can I say this I think I enjoy being married 879 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,239 now more than I did when I first got married, or two years into 880 01:05:04,239 --> 01:05:08,039 my marriage or three years, so it actually gets better and better, and 881 01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:11,440 now that we're empty nesters, it's even better. Yeah. Well we had 882 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,480 a little bit of a rough start, so that's definitely true in our case. 883 01:05:14,519 --> 01:05:17,320 But like my heart still goes pitter patter when when I see him after 884 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,159 I haven't seen him for a little bit. Yeah, I don't want to 885 01:05:19,159 --> 01:05:23,079 make it sound like it's always easy. I'm not an easy person to be 886 01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:26,760 around all the time. But you know, you know, I feel like 887 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,960 I'm the one that's not easy to be around. I feel badly about that. 888 01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:34,360 But anyway, everyone's got their their their their stuff. That is that 889 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:41,039 it. Yeah, I'm just feeling all she about my husband, about your 890 01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:45,320 husband. I have one last thing which your husband actually would like and you 891 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,800 would like to hear about. Probably. But they're rereleasing the Replacements album, 892 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:53,960 Tim. I think it's the might be the fortieth Year Anniverse or something on 893 01:05:54,119 --> 01:06:00,199 My Lord Am I old? But now Tim was the Replacements, which it's 894 01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:02,280 a lot to me as as a teenager I used to you know, I 895 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,199 just loved them, and I went to see them numerous times, but tim 896 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,679 was their first major league album, and it was like way over produced. 897 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,840 The sound of it is really tinny and not great. Had like that eighties 898 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,119 sheen that a lot of those bands had in their production values. So they've 899 01:06:17,159 --> 01:06:20,280 been they've I've heard a few of the songs. They are kind of amazing, 900 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:24,000 but they stripped the whole thing down and sort of reproduced it, you 901 01:06:24,039 --> 01:06:27,519 know, re engineered it so it sounds fuller and you really can hear it. 902 01:06:28,039 --> 01:06:30,920 And I'm super excited about that. There's a big box set with songs 903 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:35,000 you know I haven't been released. It's like it's like eighty bucks to buy, 904 01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:39,039 but I'm probably going to do it. It's a lot of money, 905 01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:42,000 but I think it'll be worth it. Right, It'll bring me back, 906 01:06:42,159 --> 01:06:45,159 bring me back to the mid eighties. You're replacements fan too. I think 907 01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:50,119 we've spoken of yeah we are. Yeah, So all right, Well, 908 01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:54,960 it was nice talking to you, great talking to you. Oh and people 909 01:06:55,280 --> 01:07:00,159 we aren't continuing to get amazing emails. I love that. I'm also it's 910 01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:03,960 like a little embarrassed and impressed by the level of email correspondence we get, 911 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:10,079 like it's so smart, so interesting, so detailed, so so please keep 912 01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:13,840 sending anytime. Some of them are some of them are jerks though a little 913 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:18,400 bit. Like they say, they personally correct me all the time. And 914 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,159 just because I'm not answering, it doesn't mean you're right. Just want to 915 01:07:21,239 --> 01:07:27,719 everyone to know that. And secondly, they're always saying how much they love 916 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,599 no I do love a certain kind of letter. And I've probably said this 917 01:07:30,639 --> 01:07:33,639 before where they say Molly's the best, She's always right, but David's right 918 01:07:33,719 --> 01:07:38,039 about this or that. I like when they say that, But I like 919 01:07:38,119 --> 01:07:42,079 the person who this week chastised me for recommending Lawrence of Arabian. Oh my 920 01:07:42,119 --> 01:07:45,119 gosh. I like it's like next week you're gonna say, have you heard 921 01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:50,960 about this movie Bridge Over River kwai Alcalypse Nowocalypse? Anyway. Oh so, 922 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,800 if you want to send us mail, please do at mail? But wait, 923 01:07:54,880 --> 01:08:00,000 is it mail radio at the Federalists Radio at the Federalist dot com? 924 01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:02,679 Embarrassing? I am not a host. Were doing my dust radio at the 925 01:08:02,719 --> 01:08:08,480 Federalist dot com, I would say we read almost all your letters unless they're 926 01:08:08,519 --> 01:08:12,400 very mean and we use bad words. But other than that, we'll be 927 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,519 back next week. Until then, the letters of freedom, and anxious for the fret