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Welcome to The Derek Loudermilk Show.
This is episode three ninety four with Dan

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Willis. In today's episode, we
talk with Dan Willis, who has been

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many things. He has been a
collaborator of Marcel Vogel, the IBM crystal

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researcher who created the Vogel cut courts
crystal, and we're going to get into

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some of the science around how Vogel
cut crystals do what they do, their

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connection between breath and consciousness and intention
and healing. And Dan was also one

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of the original witnesses of the Disclosure
Project back in two thousand and one.

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They had more than fifty witnesses that
basically disclosed to the world that there are

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extraterrestrials in contact with the government,
that we have UFOs, that we have

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free energy. And this was actually
the biggest event at the National Press Club

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in history, and yet nobody heard
about it. So get ready for an

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episode full of amazing stories science,
geometry, mathematics, and a little bit

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of guidance from extraterrestrial grad students thrown
in. So without further ado, here

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is Dan Willis. Dan Willis,
Welcome to the show. Hey, Derek,

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great to be on your show.
I would love to start by hearing

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a little bit about Marcel Vogel.
I have a few scientific heroes. Richard

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Feineman was one, Marcel Vogel is
one, and actually a few months ago

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I got to interview Stephen Schwartz.
We spent time with Feynman, and you

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know, it's just it's so cool
to have you because you had firsthand experience

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meeting and working with Marcel Vogel.
So I'm just curious, Yeah, what

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that was like for you to be
in touch with him. Well, it's

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interesting. Way back in nineteen seventy
seven, I had a an et interaction

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experience with a being that Quindolini opening. It was interesting. I find out,

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you know, decades later that at
the exact year, doctor Marcel Vogel

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was on a sacred mountain in India
having a Cuindolini opening experience as well.

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I had no idea anyway, to
make a long story short, m the

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being projected and sphere, a sphere
which had geometry going into it, one

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like platonic salad into another, like
started with a star tetrahedron, and then

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you know I saw as the heater
and dedeca heat, you know, going

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into infinity and came back and it
was basically a kind of a download of

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what the matrix was about. And
at this time I had no idea of

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what platonic solids were sacred geometry.
It left a burning passion in me to

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try to understand the matrix. And
it seemed that quartz crystals, since the

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you know, vast spenses of time
and different cultures all had this reverence to

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this clear stone that appeared to be
an indication of an advanced science that we

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don't fully have an understanding of.
And the only person that was really doing

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any you know, not woo woo
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planning and doing a laboratory and you
know, getting into the science of

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it was doctor Marself Vogel. So
I contacted him, and I drove up

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from San Diego up to San Jose
and the middle of a storm, knocked

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on his door. It was in
the evening and he welcomed me in,

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and I said, I, you
know, I'm fascinated about your work.

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I need I need to learn more
about what you're doing. If friend of

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you said first thing, he said, you're from another planet, aren't you?

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And I said, I don't I
don't know about that. Anyway,

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I sat down on this couch and
it was a doctor. He was working

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with about two dozen medical doctors in
San Francisco Bay area teaching him these techniques

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that he developed. A he turned
off the lights and played classical music for

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beautiful classical music for about it seemed
like twenty minutes or something like that in

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the dark. And then when we
started the talk and the knock came on

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the door and a woman with her
daughter came over and heard he was doing,

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you know, this healing work.
And she had this tumor that was

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on her ankle that was sticking out
about a half an inch. And as

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a doctor and I observed he did
his procedure of with the breath and the

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crystal actually dematuralized the tumor in front
of our eyes. And that left a

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lasting impression that this man has has
understood something and has opened up a key

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in understanding about these sciences. And
so, you know, he invited me.

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At the time, I was working
for the Naval Electronic Systems Engineering System

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on all the you know, the
Navy's electronics equipments and everything like that,

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and so he invited me to be
a research associate, and so I helped

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procure laboratory equipment, you know,
spectral photometers and things like that, because

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he was about to retire from IBM
and opened up this full on laboratory.

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IBM gave him the electron microscope that
he put together from from scratch, and

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uh I also traveled to the mines
in Arkansas as a long trip and gathered

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you know, a whole huge batch
of crystals, which I delivered and that

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was used for you know, for
the first doctors for cutting these Um how

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all this came about was that in
the in the seventies, uh he had

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to give a creativity course to the
engineers at IBM. He had about thirty

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engineers, very left brain thinking,
you know engineers, and he was not

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a left brain thing. He wasn't
creative genius. He created the magnetic coatings

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on hard drives, red and blue
phosphors on color television, liquid crystal systems

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he developed like we use on our
displays and so forth. He had about

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one hundred and forty patents. He
was a creative genius and he had to

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do this course. So he was
trying to figure out what to do for

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creativity, and he read this article
about Cleave Baxter, who was a CI

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palagraph expert that was working with plants, and so he crumpled it up and

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threw it in the trash and he
thought this is garbage. But then he

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thought, well, now this might
be a good experiment, you know,

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and so he, uh, he
dug it out and he hooked up a

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split leaf philodendronn and a script chart
recorder that's recording the response. He burned

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a leaf and he got a response
on the chart. And then the moment

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the thought formed in his mind,
the instant the thought formed in his mind,

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it did it squiggled. He said
that squiggle changed his life. And

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so he was studying from a yama
yoga, which was, you know,

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the science of breath and breathing.
And he found that when he pulsed his

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breath you know, like through the
nostrils like that, that with the intention

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and thought, he got a much
greater response. Now he was able to

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do this from seven miles away from
the laboratory with his colleague and psychically tune

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into the plant. And then he
also went to Provchecho, Slovakia on the

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other side of the planet and tune
into the plant and was able to make

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it squiggled. You know. He
said, the inverse square law distance doesn't

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apply. It's like instantaneous. So
um. He was doing a lecture and

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about you know, the plant communication. He was written up in the book

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The Secret Life of Plants, and
a lady gave him a crystal and he

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thought, oh, this is woo
woo stuff, right, And so he

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tried working with the crystal and a
colleague at the IBM had a back problem,

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and he used the crystal, pulsed
it and it alleviated the back problem.

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You know, he said, oh
my god, you know, I've

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got to figure out a way how
to make this. You know, in

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nature, you know the crystals,
you know, the crystals grow like this

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and all the angles of a crystal
are the same as the Great Pyramid in

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Egypt, which relates to the Golden
mean ratio and everything like that. That

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acts as the transponder and the matrix
you could say, and so um,

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pause you really quick, just to
clarify. He was testing whether the plants

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would respond to his thoughts. Of
he was like, I'm was he projecting

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that he was going to burn them? Or was he what was he doing

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to try to get the plants and
they're hooked up to it is like an

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electrode, like a lie detector type
of electrode. The thing right, right,

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and uh yeah, as soon as
the intention of his thought formed,

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the plant reacted. Um. And
so he had a he had a dream,

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he got he got a lot of
stuff in dreams, how to how

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to do things. In fact,
that's how he created the magnetic coating on

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the hard drive, as it came
to him and how how to do this,

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uh, the sticky solution you know
that goes on the hard drive.

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Um. And so it came to
him like in a die pyramiddle form,

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like this type of crystal where it's
like the tree of life in the Cabalah,

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you know, it's like the unmanifests
from you know, the source of

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all things down into the earthly manifestation. And so he, uh, he

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started cutting the crystals in this form. One end was the fifty two degree

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angle, you know, fifty one
point eight four three to be exact,

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and the other end was a sixty
degree angle or thereabouts. He didn't know,

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and we'll get into that later.
About a being from another world,

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from another civilization thousands of years in
advance of our understanding use the same geometries.

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There are crystals that they use.
So he cut this and his concept

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was that you know, with a
laser, for example, you have two

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mirrors, right, and you have
a ruby crystal your photonic site it and

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it starts oscillating back and forth,
and each subsequent because it's all in phase,

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each subsequent oscillation builds upon itself.
So you have this incredible energy that's

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going on inside of it. Laser
one mirrors one hundred percent reflective, the

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other ones one percent, and that
one percent of the energy that's coming out

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one side is strong enough to cut
through steel. So this cohering is very,

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very powerful. And so the quartz
crystal where he was cutting it was

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acting as a means to cohere the
energies of mind and and so what he

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was doing is he developing procedures using
a breath and connecting in with the physical

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body. And you understand that our
reality is multidimensional, many many densities of

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frequencies. That the quartz crystal is
resonant simultaneously at the same time and all

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these different dimensions. So it acts
as a bridge between these dimensions. And

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so the higher forms the lower three
D physical form that we are not the

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other way around. And so when
you're able to go in and link to

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the higher pattern, I'll say you
have a dissonant pattern, whatever the problem

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is in the body, if you're
able to go in there and release that

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amazing transfer, like the tumor disappearing
in front of our eyes, amazing transformation.

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I used it a number of times. Marcel cut that crystal as a

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gift for me, you know,
for helping with the laboratory and everything.

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And the first time I ever used
it, I was getting on the plane

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back to San Diego and there was
a football player holding his knee in pain.

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He just had surgery here, right, And so you know, I'm

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thinking, while I've been given a
gift, and so I said to him,

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well, I'm not a I'm not
a doctor. I'm an experimental scientist.

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If you're like, we can try
some experimental procedures, you know,

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the first time, you know,
using it, And so I did the

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procedures that Marcel uh showed me.
And the guy got off the plane and

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he was pointing from his parents.
He said that, like, guy,

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he fixed my leg, and I
was like, but I didn't do it.

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I facilitated him, you know,
healing himself because I facilitated that.

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So I definitely want to I want
to ask a bit more about the healing

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process. But I also just love
to hear like, um, so I

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know you, you know, helped
him set up the laboratory. Like what

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was he like as a person for
you or what was your relationship? Like

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the two of you, Marcel and
I were close friends. Um, we

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did a number of things together.
I remember touring Lawrence Livermore laboratories with him.

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I worked on a number of projects
that were you know, like Looking

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Out of the Outer Limits movie.
You know. One was a camera that

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came out of out of England made
back in the nineteen fifties. It was

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patented by the European Patent Office called
the Delaware Camera. What was fascinating about

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this camera that stood about five and
a half feet tall. It had tone

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oscillators, radionic dials. It had
a chamber above with lenses and reflectors that

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went onto a photographic plate. You
could take a drop of blood and tune

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into the individual and the sound oscillators
and everything that you have to align it

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with the earth and everything projected into
space and three dimensions, a holographic projection

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which was captured on the film.
The silver emulsion on the film reacted to

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it and thousands of photos were taken. One example, the thing that I'm

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very familiar with radionic instruments, and
you know, the acts as a tuning

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focus for the mind. This one
had the ability to go forwards and backwards

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in the time. It had a
time spiral in it like this. One

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woman was pregnant and she was like
fifty miles away and she could see the

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fetus and you can move it forward
and backwards in the time seeing it progress.

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What's interesting is, you know,
I've been ever since my involvement with

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you know, because my top secret
clearance and the military and being involved as

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a disclosure witness, I've become friends
with many of these people and the secret

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Space program talking about the men bed
technolog oology and that how the medbeds work

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is that it holographically takes the photo
of you and this everything is holographic in

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the universe, and so when they
take a photo, it goes back to

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the point of your conception, and
so you have these slices of time you

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could say that go back in time
and so what they do is, let's

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say you lose your arm or something
or leg or any situation, you can

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tune back through time before that happened
and then repattern repair. I mean it's

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like you're you're you're pairing. They
oscillate basically the holographic pattern of that element

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back in time, and within a
matter of hours, the arm is fully

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restored. I've talked to a number
of people who have personally first hand experienced

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this with the with the medbeds.
Amazing. Oh, it's incredible technology.

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You know, we need to get
rid of this. My great grandfather was

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the president of Homeopathic Medical Society.
It was going up against the evil Rockefeller

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allopathic medicine. And you know,
the whole medical system is so corrupt.

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We need to replace this with new
modalities that are not based on pharmaceuticals but

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energetic means of healing people. And
so, what you were saying about the

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mechanism, like where you worked on
the football players leg on the airplane,

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it sounds very similar. You're you're
saying, like reverting to the information in

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a field that's going to like is
a sort of a higher state of perfection

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that can then reset the sort of
physical the d How how the procedure works

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is that um you you know,
and everything's done with love because love is

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a at the highest at the highest
densities you could say, is more aligned

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with love, and as it comes
down into the lower densities, there's less

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of an alignment of love. But
we're all everything's all connected and and so

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in order to move energy without dissonance, there's always that connection with love,

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you know, doing doing something because
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a it's kind of involved, but
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The procedure is the person does you
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then sync with the person and you
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acts as a witness for the whole
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usually if you have pain or you
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you know, to tune into where
the problem is. You ask to be

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shown where the you know, the
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in and see what is the root
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and to tune their mind on and
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you start to amplify the field and
it becomes sometimes a little more painful.

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an electronic circuit. You start pumping
a whole lot of energy into something that

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it's not tuned, it's going to
have resistance, right and so um and

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through the breath. The breath is
more than just breathing in and out oxygen

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and feeding hemoglobin and all that.
It's more of a multidimensional information transfer that

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happens when we inhale exhale. And
so when you go in and ask to

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be shown where is the core problem? When you build up a couple of

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breaths and then there's a release breath
and he goes release, you know like

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that and amazing transformations happened at that
point, um. And it's kind of

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like this big dramatic thing, you
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right release, you know, and
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I'm not sure on your on your
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is outlined for people to go and
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cut solor Yeah, in honor of
Marcel I put together Marcel Vogel dot Org

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all those procedures, all the lab
notes and everything with the Delaware camera also

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goes into the latest information that for
the last year I've been interacting from a

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being with another world who's a scientist
on science of crystals and what we what's

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amazing is my friend Elena Denn She's
a French archaeologists that worked in Egypt for

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some time and when she was like
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the Great extraterrestrials and she was had
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rescued by the Galactic Federation of Worlds
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now it's like a quant of communication
device, so that her contact a person

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who went and saved her. His
name's thor Henry Readion. What what he

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sees and here's she sees and hears
and then what she season here he season

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here, you know, So they
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I did a show with her and
she said that Thorhan's younger brother is going

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to university in the Plates and understanding
how the terraform planets are they called starmaking,

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and that he has a little bit
of knowledge and you know the matrix

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and crystals, you know. And
so I started April of last year,

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almost exactly a year to this estate. I um put forth a number of

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questions and Elena and I were both
kind of blown away by the information matched.

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And so what Marcel Vogel was able
to establish an elaboratory and quantify matched

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what jen Han was saying. And
so the communication log is now at one

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hundred pages of question answer, question
answer, and they have to do it

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that way because of the prime directive. The prime directive is not just something

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that was in Star Trek. The
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real. It turns out is fascinatingly
enough that Leslie Leslie Stevens, yeah,

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he was the creator of the Outer
Limits series is he was an office and

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Enable Intelligence. His father was Admiral
Leslie Stevens, who was head of psychological

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warfare with the Navy, and his
contemporary with Admiral rickle Boda, who was

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working with twenty nine Navy spies are
embedded into the Nazi secret space program that

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was going on in Antarctica, you
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the Galactic Federation was working with Leslie
Stevens and Gene Roddenberry who was on the

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set with him and gave him the
whole the whole script and everything for Star

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Truck and the prime Directive. My
friend doctor Michael Sala, who's been researching

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this ever since, he was inspired
from the event I participated in at the

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National Prescoe back in two thousand and
one, found out that he found this

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book that Elena had no Idea that
laid out the prime directives exactly word for

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word almost so um they they you
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and then let us know. They
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save ourselves, you know, and
to become awake and aware of what's going

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on and so um. So the
prime directive is like kind of a non

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interference, uh directive where they can't, like Jen hadn't, just can't tell

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me everything. I have to ask
this very specific question and he will specifically

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answer that question. But once in
a while he'll drop a little a little

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a little extra thing that opens up
another door, you know, like the

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am I correct that he um he
there was like something that would have um

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gone against the prime directive that he
had to get special permission to reveal a

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release correct correct, And in fact
I asked one question that apparently it raised

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a bunch of red flags. Um
I was asking him about them in the

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in the quartz crystal allatus you have
you know, the pco electric effect where

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you have basically like six pointed stars
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positive and negative in the middle,
and when the physical pressure is put on

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a crystal, it creates a voltage
offset. It's called like your cigarette lighters

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that you know makes a spark,
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a dimensional portal, and he's he's said,

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uh, this is one of the
things in the Prime Director that we're

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not you know, supposed to.
So he had to get special permission.

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And then what Marcel didn't know and
would have loved to have known, he

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didn't. He didn't realize it.
But you know Marcell started out with they

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with a fourth side at crystal like
this, and then he felt that the

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energies spun and vortex, that the
energy does vortex. The crystals grow in

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the left and right handed spirals.
Naturally, and then they started and there's

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there's a six side at crystal.
And then they went to like, here

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is an eight side it, and
then they kept on going up to more

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sides and here is a sixteen side
it. But what Marcel didn't realize is

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that he missed something when he went
past the six sided because the crystal,

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according to jen Hand, the crystal
needs to be cut in respect to the

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hexagonal core matrix of the crystal,
in other words, as it grows in

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nature. So the alignment is not
only on the sea axis, which is

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the growth axe that the crystal,
so that both points on the crystal are

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aligned perfectly with this c axis.
And then the hexagonal core has to be

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aligned perfectly with the three axises of
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was much more specific on the angles
than Marcel. You know, one's fifty

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one point eight four three degree angle
or fifty two is what they rounded off

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to, and the other ones the
sixty degree angle. And what's interesting about

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the sixty degree angle is jen Hand
said that the entire the secret of the

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universe is a tetrahedral fractal holographic geometry, and that if you look at tetrahedron.

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All the internal angles are sixty degrees. If you look at you know

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Egyptian obelisks, you know the top
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It's like the interfaces like the Flower
of Life and all the other uh.

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I met with not Simhaaman back in
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et experience and he said to me, that's it. That's it's a structure

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of the matrix um, and so
it acts like a it resonates with the

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geometry of the matrix um. So
what what he didn't realize is that the

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two terminations on the crystal, they
create a vortex and they they're counter rotating.

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One's going in one direction, one
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they meet at a point. And
at this point, if you stimulate the

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piezoelectric with the you can do it
with your with your fingers, you know,

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but it's now as effective as if
you hook it up to a signal

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generator and put two silver electrodes on
it. And this in this area right

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here is the we're the vortex forms
it it It creates this singularity point which

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opens up this vortex and you're able
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planetary matrix and cause and effect.
An interesting event happened recently that my French

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friends Elena is in Ireland and John
Charles Morienne, who was on was in

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the Solar Ward in Secret Space program
Um. He was doing a video production

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about his experience in Japan, and
I was listening to some Japanese music and

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and he was thinking, Oh,
Elena would would love to hear this is

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such beautiful music. He was thinking
about her. Elena, on the other

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side of the planet in Ireland just
happened to have her function generator turned on

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and opened up the vortex in her
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in the kitchen and the cats perked
up. They heard something down the hallway

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and she went over there and it's
like this Japanese music coming out of the

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crystal and what I asked Jen Hann
about that, and he said that it

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it opens up this connection and a
void which allows this type of connection.

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But it wasn't his specialty. His
special he is more on other aspects.

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In fact, he's he's kind of
excited because he's on one of the intergalactic

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confederationships and they're twenty thousand years ahead
of their the plating science, you can

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imagine the playing sciences are like thousands
of years ahead of us UM. And

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so there is this um, there's
this amazing science that we're just scratching the

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surface on. And the last communications
were the construction of a frill generator.

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Frill is the term they use for
the universal life source. They believe that

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the real They know that the Courts
crystal is the purest element in the universe

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that's connected connected directly to the source, and so is water. They act

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as interdimensional bridges and they're all part
of a practical formula that like love is

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as well, but of a more
complex form. So they all interface with

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each other. And so what happens
is that when you when you stimulate the

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quartz crystal loutice in a particular way
that creates a torsion field with using two

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perpendicular coils, one of copper for
the electromagnetic and one of silver for the

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etheric. What happens is the phase
conjunction. Note that happens within the crystal

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creates this generation of frill, and
the frill can be used for it's like

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it's like healthy stuff. You know, it's like it helps your body.

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Plants will thrive on it. And so

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I'm working on with two scientists.
You know, we're doing a cab and

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trying to it's kind of complicated.
The try to get these two coils at

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perfectly ninety degrees you know, to
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then take the frill that's emanating from
it. And I've ordered some fused copper

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tubing and white seven right hand turns
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Marcel did that with the wine.
There was a winery in California had this

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rock get wine, and he took
a crystal and charged with the essence of

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his fine finished wine and seven right
hand turns. It was using stainless steel

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transfer the vibrational essence from the quartz
into the water. Everything has water and

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you know, into the wine.
And what happened was that turned thousands of

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gallons into a California Award ringing wine. But you know, you couldn't really

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mark it and say, oh,
it's been crystal enhanced, you know,

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but you know, it was able
to establish that that method was able to

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be transferred into the water. There's
a there's an interesting relationship between the geometry

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the molecular inner molecular bonding angles of
quartz and that of water, and that

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in quartz it's like fifty two degrees, and water it's the angular harmonic multiples

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of that of twenty six degrees and
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point five almost fifty two degrees is
slightly off. But what happens is what

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I've noticed in my research is that
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you have an angle that's a multiple
of an angle, and there is similar

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to like an electronic you know,
where you have a signal and you're going

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to have odd and even order harmonics. You know. I used to be

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a broadcast engineer and we had a
it took care of one hundred and fifty

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one transmitter, and one of the
harmonics was being on a There was a

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structure that had a parasitic resonance with
the second harmonic, and we had to

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identify it where it was and shorted
out. And what happens is the music

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and everything that's playing on the fundamental
will be played on the harmonic, and

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so information is transferred. You know, harmonically. So with the with the

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seven turn thing and the sort of
a twoment of the you know, worse

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wine became better one. Could we
take holy water and sort of a tune

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like an entire river to holy water. Yeah, you can. You know,

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there was an experiment Marcel did with
he got from Hungary from a sacred

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spring. He said, he's never
seen the energetic signature was off the chart.

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He took a big vat of bulkwater, you know, unstructured water,

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took a single drop of that sacred
spring water into the that of bulkwater.

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Now every single drop in there have
that same energetic his water will mirror and

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the higher forms the lower. Like
I mentioned earlier, the lower doesn't form

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the higher. If you take that
that vat of water that is all structured,

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right, has that same signature,
and you take unstructured water and put

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a drop into that, that unstructured
drop will become structured. It won't.

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It won't unstructure the whole thing.
So it shows that it's kind of interesting

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that it's like our thoughts in the
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when you have a higher vibrational thought, it influences we did an experiment Elaine

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and I where we had she has
you know, one hundred and ten thousand

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subscribers, we had about seventeen hundred
people live with her crystals. And and

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so what we did was this experiment
taking the information of both Marcel and jen

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Han and had everybody go through a
visualization of a beautiful positive timeline, you

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know, where the dark elements were
taken care era of the new technologies released

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and you know, the world is
this beautiful situation. So we took everybody

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through that visualization and then everybody had
their crystals and then they fully formed that

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in their consciousness and everybody at the
same time, you know, projected that

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into the crystal. And you know, without crystals, you know, it's

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been scientifically established. You know,
square word of one percent starts this kindling

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effect of which is you know,
eight billion people on the planets, like

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less than nine thousand people start this
effect, and more people, of course,

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the better. And what happened was
somebody was monitoring the human resonance and

408
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:50.239
there was a huge spike on it, and we find out there's this reciprocal

409
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:57.719
relationship between the human resonance is like
they dubit the Earth brainwave because it's almost

410
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:05.559
like an EEG pattern and operates within
the frequencies of human brainways. And so

411
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:12.280
there's this reciprocal relationship between the minds
on planet and the planet itself, and

412
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.599
it created the spike. So I
believe that the working with the crystals act

413
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:27.199
as a a way to enhance that
by amplifying the connection, you know,

414
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:35.000
the coupling of it. Speaking of
Naseem hair Mine and the human residence,

415
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:43.000
I interviewed Um. I'm blinking on
the name he made those Thrive documentaries.

416
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.599
Anyway, he was with hair Mine
and a bunch of those arc crystals in

417
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:53.719
the Great Pyramid and they did an
overnight meditation and the next day got a

418
00:41:53.719 --> 00:42:01.280
call from the like Russian Geospatial Agency. They're like, basically, it seemed

419
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:07.239
like you guys set off a huge
nuclear bomb or caused an earthquake. Um,

420
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:09.840
we had such a huge signal And
they're like, what were you doing.

421
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:15.360
Oh, we're just uh, we're
just meditating with these arc crystals in

422
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:22.639
the pyramid. Interesting. Interesting,
Yeah, well inside the pyramid, Oh

423
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:29.760
my god. You know what a
what a way to amplify Um. Okay,

424
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:31.639
so there's a bunch of there's a
bunch of things that you've mentioned that

425
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:37.199
I want to um some some crumbs. I just wanted to mention quickly.

426
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:44.760
In the in the nineteen eighties and
nineties, I worked with doctor Robert Beck

427
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:50.840
who would um and he did some
work with the CIA and things. He

428
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.679
gave me some papers and somebody broke
into my house and they know the only

429
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.119
thing they stole with the documents that
he gave, you know, from the

430
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:06.239
CIA. But essentially back in the
seventies was called the Russian woodpecker, where

431
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:13.559
the Russians were sending signals that would
heterodyne on our sixty hurts, they're on

432
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:20.519
fifty hurt squid on sixty hurt squid
and would fall within the psychoactive window and

433
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:27.519
started affecting people. Now, he
traveled all around the planet and measured UNA

434
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.880
medicine men different things and found out
when they were in a working state of

435
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:38.719
consciousness they were at the seven point
eight three hurts human resonance and their left

436
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:46.400
and right hemispheres were sink perfectly together
in an increased in amplitude. And I

437
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:51.840
when I was working with the Navy
electronics, I was working with this Navy

438
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.960
captain and We were working on the
satellite equipment then, and he would wrap

439
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:58.519
these things up in a sleep.
You know, we do it all the

440
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:02.920
time, right, And I was
building these different oscillators that can tune down

441
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:07.880
to one hundred differ herts, and
I didn't realize I accidentally put it on

442
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:13.840
the frequency that causes the left and
right hemispheres. Do you synchronize causing special

443
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:19.320
disorientation? Right? The CIA has
these little pins that if you ever get

444
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:25.400
hit with it, they simulate the
Earth's resonance so that it overrides an external

445
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:32.320
signal, because you can you can
disable people by sending that frequency. And

446
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.480
I had the frequency counter on period
measurement, then frequency, and so I

447
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.360
didn't know what frequency. It was
a perfect double blind experiment. The captain

448
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:49.400
was trying to wrap this equipment and
he was like so disoriented it was comical.

449
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.440
He threw his hands down in the
side. What the hell is going

450
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.719
on here? And then I looked
up at the there and I switched it

451
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.360
back to frequency. Oh my god. You know, it was like a

452
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:05.119
perfect double blind, you know.
And so I did this work with doctor

453
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.280
Robert Beck, who substantiated a lot
of this with the human residence I just

454
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:13.920
want to share with you. Okay, interesting, Yeah, there's more.

455
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.639
There's more there, um, So
I'm gonna go all the way back to

456
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:21.480
the beginning. You walked into marsa
Vogels and he said, are you from

457
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.880
another planet? Or you're from another
planet? That was the first thing you

458
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:30.880
ever said to me. Yeah,
are you? I don't have a recollection

459
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:38.400
of you know, I'm Jen Hanns
apparently scanned me, and they know I

460
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.800
was a scientist and atlantist and a
past live. I don't remember anything about

461
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:50.960
that, but you know, I, I don't know. Have you ever

462
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.719
been curious about, I don't know, doing like a hypnotic aggression or a

463
00:45:53.719 --> 00:46:00.119
past life aggression to see some of
your other previous lives. The last time

464
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:04.840
I did that was in nineteen seventy
seven, and that brought about that et

465
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:09.519
interaction, which Elena described the being
as being an Emethur, which is one

466
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:14.400
of the Council of Five, and
they're a benevolent They kind of look like

467
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:16.400
rays, but they have like they
don't have like no nose. They have

468
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:22.599
a little cute nose and the big
eyes and large cranium. Incredible amount of

469
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:28.519
love coming out of the thighs,
but no, I haven't. I've kind

470
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:31.840
of backed off since then. Oh
interesting, Okay, any particular reason.

471
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:40.199
They just have enough to process and
deal with with with my current uh you

472
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:45.400
know reality here on Earth. And
I also wanted to ask you, um,

473
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:51.320
so what you're what's motivating you these
days? Like why why are you

474
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:55.199
doing the work that you're doing.
I feel like the whole planet has been

475
00:46:55.280 --> 00:47:02.400
duped. And you know, I
spent ten years after I gave my testimony

476
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:08.039
in Washington with the other witnesses,
which we were backed by five hundred witnesses.

477
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:10.920
You know, we were revealing,
you know, bases on oarside of

478
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:17.000
the moon, fifty seven different species. President CIA directors being denied access that

479
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:22.639
we've had faster than lightcraft built back
in the fifties, and the mainstream media

480
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:29.519
completely sanitize up from the public's awareness. Myself being an x ABC newsman when

481
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.719
I was a broadcast engineer, I
took it was like the place was packed,

482
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:37.440
twenty two cameras in the ACROA.
I didn't understand what was going on,

483
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:43.159
and the CBS wanted to do an
interview, and I said that we

484
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.360
have the scientists that can prove we
have zero point energy. We don't need

485
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:50.159
nucle oral and coal, they promised. I said, I wouldn't do this

486
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.599
unless I could say that on the
air, and they said, I'm sorry.

487
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.639
The higher executives made me cut that
part out. And we know that

488
00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:00.880
the higher executives are, you know, from the intelligence community. So a

489
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:05.599
media company out of Hollywood one me
to write an article on the control being

490
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:10.199
a witness and an x ABC news
man, the control of our perceptions you

491
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:14.679
know, through the mainstream media on
the UFO topic. And so I gladly

492
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:20.719
accepted the only way I could.
I didn't know what Operation Mockingbird was,

493
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.280
you know, in two thousand and
one, and so I started putting together

494
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:29.320
all these witness testimonies that I was
aware of. I mean, we had

495
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.320
five hundred witnesses, you know that
we're backing us, all, each one

496
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:37.880
of us willing to testify under oath
penalty, perjury breaking national security, you

497
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:51.559
know. And I I started back
to the beginning of the twentieth century,

498
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:58.039
looking at all the leak authenticated classified
documents, all the witness testimonies, and

499
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.760
I started plugging it in those The
only way for me to comprehend what had

500
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:10.360
what happened. Why why as a
solution to the world being suppressed? Um,

501
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.679
And then I started to realize what
happened. And if you go back

502
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:22.639
into the history, it's like the
most um bizarre science fiction movie plot you

503
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:27.039
are, and it keeps its own
best secrecy because the real truth is so

504
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:31.039
far from our indocrinated reality. The
you know we've been taught in school.

505
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:36.440
Turns out the you know Nazis,
before the end of World War two,

506
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:40.639
have the plan to create a matrix
of perception they called Velkin Shalon's Creek,

507
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:49.320
which they did. Uh. They
controlled the media, they controlled education,

508
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:55.119
They rewrote the history of World War
two nineteen forty six Hollywood, the whole

509
00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:01.000
the whole matrix of perception. So
for through generation indocrination, we don't know

510
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:08.039
the full truth of what happened.
And that the you know, the Naziss

511
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:15.880
basically entered into an alliance with a
Reptilian race called the Draco the Sakar Empire

512
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:21.960
in an Arctico was given him advanced
technology, which violated the Prime directive and

513
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:28.639
so an interest of balance, what
happened was the Galactic Federation of Worlds came

514
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:34.199
in and worked with the US Navy
who it goes into a long story with

515
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:39.880
longer than we have time for.
But basically during the Eisenhower administration, who

516
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:49.000
wanted to have go on television radio
and release this that he got circumvented by

517
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.880
the MJA twelve group, who entered
into an agreement with the NEBO and Draco

518
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:59.960
alliance and the whole thing went,
you know, deep black at that point

519
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:05.800
point. In fact, in nineteen
ninety three, I traveled to Area fifty

520
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:10.159
one the first time Bob Lazzarre Everyone's
meeting with a group of researchers. No

521
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:15.320
recordings were allowed whatsoever, but I
had on my cam quarter on my lap

522
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:20.199
and recorded two hours of him hitting
with questions, which has been consistent over

523
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:28.039
the years. But that meeting created
a the base Area fifty one went into

524
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:37.599
a complete lockdown and a classified NRO
National Reconnaissance Office advisory went out through all

525
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:43.719
all their different connections and somehow doctor
Stephen Greer and in the same year,

526
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:55.719
nineteen ninety three, he was meeting
with the CIA Director William James. James

527
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:01.760
James come yeah, no, wait, James Woolsey, I'm sorry at a

528
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:08.360
blank there. The CIA director Clinton
wanted to find out about the UFO situation,

529
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:14.679
but the CI directors being denied access
every single president, CIA director head

530
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:19.519
of intelligence ever since Eisenhower lost control
back in the fifties, which he tried

531
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:30.480
to warn the American public kind of
cryptically. What happened was that he,

532
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:35.400
uh, doctor Stephen Greer, who
he brought into a three hour meeting,

533
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.639
you know, the CI director,
saying to him, I know the subjects

534
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:40.960
real, I'm trying to fare out
why the hell I can't gain access to

535
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:46.119
it. And so doctor Greer met
with military advisors who started collecting witnesses.

536
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:51.840
I was like the one hundredth videotaped
witness that he collected starting in nineteen ninety

537
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:58.599
three. And so somehow doctor Greer
was able to acquire that NRO document about

538
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:02.599
Area fifty one, which had a
distribution list that was revealing the other acknowledged

539
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:09.360
special access programs that Bob Lazar was
working on reverse engineering the craft and brought

540
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:13.639
it to a Pentagon meeting with the
head of Intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of

541
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:17.840
Staff, Vice Admiral Thomas Wilson,
along with the astronaut doctor Edgar Mitchell and

542
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:24.760
Commander Will Miller, and the head
of Intelligence for the Joint chiefs of Staff.

543
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:29.039
He was denied access. In fact, he was threatened that he would

544
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.960
see an early retirement and lose rank
if he didn't drop it immediately. He

545
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:36.639
was mad as hell and told doctor
Greer, if you can get your people.

546
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:42.239
He knew he had started collecting witnesses
back in ninety three to go before

547
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.800
that are willing to testify under oath, willing to go before the mainstream meeting.

548
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:50.000
You am a permission. This group
is illegal, quote unquote. And

549
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:53.920
so that's what brought about the event
that I participated in back in two thousand

550
00:53:53.960 --> 00:54:00.920
and one, over two decades ago, and on the public is still you

551
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:06.800
know, they're seeing little glimpses here
and there of information putting at the gather

552
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.920
about them. The media is definitely
the enemy of the people. They have

553
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:15.760
been, you know, deceiving the
American public for a long time toward an

554
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:22.000
agenda that is not an interest of
the people of the world. So in

555
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.960
two thousand and one, when you
brought when you had all these people coming

556
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:30.440
together, and you thought this was
gonna just boom change the world because this

557
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.840
information would get out. I thought
it was a part of a world changing

558
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:37.800
event. I mean, I couldn't
believe the other witnesses that were what we

559
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.760
were disclosing to the people of the
world. Twenty two cameras, the place

560
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:47.159
packed with reporters, you know,
how could this not change everything? And

561
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:53.559
so that you mentioned that one TV
show that you went on where they like,

562
00:54:53.800 --> 00:55:00.320
then they took out the clip later
on channel to Los Ange. Okay,

563
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:07.159
all those cameras and all those reporters, were they all just not recording

564
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:12.280
or were they all told not to
report on? Is like what happened?

565
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:20.280
What happens is, you know,
everything got recorded, right, but when

566
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:23.440
it gets back to the corporate office
for the editing room, what they do

567
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:30.960
is they selectively cut out. There
was so many explosive statements that were in

568
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:37.920
the whole thing. They totally omit
the witness testimonies. And they talked about

569
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:43.360
doctor Greer and doctor Greer's you know, saying, these objects of extratrustrial origin

570
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.320
have been tracked on radar going thousands
of miles per hours, stopping and making

571
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:54.719
right hand turns right after that,
and we've already studied these technologies and have

572
00:55:54.880 --> 00:56:00.239
developed in the United States, Great
Britain and elsewhere, you know, And

573
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:05.760
so you know they're very selectively take
out. So what happens is all this

574
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:09.639
incredible testimony it gets boiled down to
when it gets on CNN, CBS and

575
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:15.599
everything, it makes it sound as
though it's what's called what the intelligence community

576
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:19.519
called a limited hangout. In other
words, they only hang out the part

577
00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:24.320
that's safe that won't compromise their agenda. And so the perception that the guy

578
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:28.000
coming back from a hard day at
work, during a beer or whatever,

579
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:35.119
he gets the impression that they're wanting
to have a congressional hearing on simply the

580
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:40.719
reality of UFOs. He's collected hundreds
of military intelligence witnesses, and so that's

581
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:46.800
the impression of the of the And
you know it goes for like a minute

582
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:52.280
and a half or something that they
covered. I traveled across the United States

583
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:58.079
in the major cities every time with
that. How is no you know,

584
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:05.199
legitimate reporter just really interested in covering
this because I I know journalists and they

585
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:08.199
they're relentless, right, they when
they get a whiff of a story,

586
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:16.360
they dig and dig and dig.
And so surely not everyone was compromised,

587
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:22.480
right, every journalist that was there, Right, you're independent journalists if you

588
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:31.079
don't, if you don't follow the
the line of the higher executives before this

589
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:35.599
is like top on the list.
You know, the higher executives and the

590
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:42.239
media are connected with the intelligence community. Sure, and if you it won't

591
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.840
they may be some disgrumpled head journalists
and if they raised too much of a

592
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:52.519
stink, you know, out they
go and so um. If you want

593
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:58.639
to keep your job, you you
follow the line the higher executives are.

594
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:06.239
You know, the the lady was
interviewing me on CBS. She was almost

595
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.880
in tears. I know, I
promise I never had this happened before.

596
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:14.760
You know that the higher executives made
me cut that part out, you know,

597
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:17.079
because I said, they traveled all
the way down to San Diego from

598
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:22.079
LA to interview me for about forty
five minutes, and I said a lot

599
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:24.519
of things, but I said,
I'm not unless I can say this little

600
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:30.199
ten seconds statement, you know,
and afterward, you know, because of

601
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:34.920
my technical background and since we weren't
able to have a congressional hearing, I

602
00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:38.440
volunteered doctor grew set up a corporation. We had a database well three hundred

603
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:45.920
scientists that were a civilian and inventors, and so for ten years I was

604
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:52.360
meeting with scientists and inventors, and
just one nightmare after another, you know,

605
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:58.400
CI coming in threatening the people being
murdered. So I, after ten

606
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:04.480
years, I just gave up on
it until these control elements are no longer

607
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:10.880
operational, these technologies, I mean, there's over six thousand. There's a

608
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:15.280
secret system in the Patent Office called
Sensitive Application Warning System. If any of

609
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:22.440
your has to do with free energy, anti gravity, super conductivity, at

610
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.679
room temperature, you know, anything's
on this list, you automatically get a

611
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:30.880
national security order which states that your
invention has been deemed to be a detriment

612
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:35.559
in the national security United States.
Therefore you cannot share it with anybody.

613
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:38.360
Just recently did a show doctor Michael
Saladin and brought in one of these scientists

614
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:42.400
who you know, had his cars
blown up, he's thrown in prison.

615
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:46.719
He had developed a based on Nikola
Tessa's design, a little small, inexpensive

616
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:52.079
unit producing about three hundred wats of
power. He had sixty three thousand of

617
00:59:52.119 --> 01:00:00.760
these made in Japan. I had
to bar the whole thing. You don't

618
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:06.159
they did? They confiscate them all
from Japan or they confiscated everything. Wow,

619
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:13.360
man, So this guy was pretty
close to disseminating free energy. Yeah.

620
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:15.639
Yeah, brilliant scientists and in fact, he's got a number of that

621
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:20.920
he hasn't got a National security order
on yet. Um. You know,

622
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:29.480
inventions that can pull energy and can
create up to a megawatt of power.

623
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:35.239
But you know the stuff that they
have in the Secret Space program, you

624
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:40.440
can imagine, um, with unlimited
funding and some of the most brilliant minds,

625
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:49.760
even assistance from off planet cultures that
are thousands of years in advance to

626
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:53.920
develop the technologies that they have in
these Secret Space program that seem make any

627
01:00:53.960 --> 01:01:00.599
science fiction movie, UM seem kind
of weak, you know, character what

628
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:06.840
they have. So you're saying,
Um, this guy's inventions are great,

629
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:12.760
but they're the ones in the Secret
Space programs are much more powerful, generated

630
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:17.000
a lot more energy. Yeah,
in the Secret Space part, you know,

631
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:22.000
the bar developed, you know,
more than and there's some brilliant minds

632
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:25.079
on the planet, you know,
some brilliant scientists that come up with incredible

633
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:30.159
inventions. But you know that you
can imagine if you've had unlimited funding and

634
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:37.360
you know, collaboration to put together
some advanced technology. I'm sure they have

635
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:45.800
solutions. According to my friend Alina
who recently um It sounds bizarre for a

636
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:51.599
lot of people, but she goes
off planet with Thorhan on a scout ship.

637
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:57.920
She was able to go inside the
Moon's hollow. And there's huge manufacturing

638
01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:02.760
facilities that are making these holographic medbeds
to be released to the world, and

639
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:10.199
anti gravity vehicles, free energy devices, all this stuff. I'm imagining that

640
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:16.320
ever since, it's kind of interesting
that what Elena was saying is that the

641
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:22.440
regressive extraterrestrials, the grays and the
reptilians have been removed out of our solar

642
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:29.079
system back in twenty twenty one.
And it's interesting that a Navy fund at

643
01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:39.559
Arlington Institute think tank Greg Braden just
had h Robert John Peterson rather on and

644
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:47.159
three independent sources verified that these regressive
extraterrestrials have been removed from our solar system

645
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:54.119
and that, in other words,
the minions on Earth that were the dark

646
01:02:54.159 --> 01:03:00.519
elements on Earth, the human element
that was having this supports system, you

647
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:06.840
know, from these dark extraterrestrials,
they're no longer have that though they're on

648
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:13.639
their own, and right now the
Deep State is basically um, you know,

649
01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:17.960
pulling out all stops, and I
think the people in the world are

650
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:24.760
starting starting to awaken more. And
I think once, uh, once we

651
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:30.880
can get a certain critical mass of
awakening of the reality that has been hidden

652
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:35.280
from the world. Uh, and
we understand that, I think, you

653
01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:40.880
know, the Nuremberg type trials would
start going on for crimes against humanity,

654
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:49.280
all of the human trafficking, child
trafficking off planet and on planet, and

655
01:03:49.840 --> 01:04:00.079
all this would um be exposed and
ceased, and these technologies released, and

656
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:06.320
the new world could be experienced on
this planet. So given that you you've

657
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:14.000
already experienced like the system shutting,
shutting you guys down, trying to disclose

658
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:16.519
all this. You know, in
two thousand and one two, like,

659
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:20.039
oh wow, there's medbeds being manufactured
on the Moon and free energy devices that

660
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:26.760
could be dropped in at any momentum. How close do you think that is?

661
01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:30.239
Like how what do we need to
do to make that happen? Because

662
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.239
you kind of have a good sense
of what we're up against and like how

663
01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:39.159
the tides are right now, what's
your sort of projection of the next few

664
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:42.239
years, Like whenever we're gonna get
the good stuff? That's the question.

665
01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:46.880
Everybody's ask. You know, it's
like when when that's going to happen?

666
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:49.400
How much longer do we have to
put up with us? You know,

667
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:59.719
Um, the timetable is unknown.
To give a date is you know it

668
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:03.800
does doesn't work because it's in dynamic
flux changing you know constantly. Um,

669
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:12.440
it's um, it feels like it's
moving. Thorhan Uh just met in a

670
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:19.079
underground military complex and Raven rock Uh
and gave it to General Van Kirk,

671
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:25.760
who's head of the North American Command. This device that gives the whole plan

672
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:32.719
for disclosure there work. There's a
Earth Alliance made up of Earth humans that's

673
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:38.800
working in alliance with the Galactic Federation
of Worlds that you know, the head

674
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:44.679
of the Israeli space program mentioned that
you know, President Trump's aware of and

675
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:50.960
that they're they're not quite ready yet
to be revealed to our population. You

676
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:57.199
know, a little more time is
needed for us to be ready for contact.

677
01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:05.039
But the plans for disclosure are in
work right now. And so what

678
01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:11.719
will probably be happening is more of
the Confederation ships will be seen in the

679
01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:15.000
skies. More people will start to
see it and acclimate to this. As

680
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.280
you can tell in the mainstream media. You know, it was talking about

681
01:06:18.360 --> 01:06:23.880
UFOs a lot, but it always
putting the you know, threat narrative with

682
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:29.079
that. You know. One of
the things that was revealed that the two

683
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:33.840
thousand and one press club is von
Braun Render von Braun. So that was

684
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:38.800
one of their plans as I have
a false flag alien threat, you know,

685
01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:44.639
or to be contrived. It was
interesting that one of the things on

686
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:48.599
the long list of false flag events. The next one was terrorists and this

687
01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:51.920
was May of two thousand and one. Everybody knows what happened in September of

688
01:06:53.000 --> 01:07:00.760
two thousand and one, so can't
give a date. But the indications are

689
01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:06.360
that the disclosure plan working with the
Galactic Federation, and all the good guys

690
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:13.480
are here, uh in the Solar
system. The bad guys are out have

691
01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:19.840
been removed, you know, according
to a Navy think tank. UM and

692
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:29.639
uh, you know, I feel
optimistic and and you're concentrating your efforts right

693
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:34.119
now on making this physical frill generation
device. What else are you spending your

694
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:39.840
time on side? You know,
coming on our podcast, yeah with with

695
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:45.599
uh with Jen han areadion Um.
It started out with understanding some of the

696
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:56.199
scientific basics of you know, this
um U tetrahedral fractal geometry and the interface

697
01:07:56.320 --> 01:08:03.920
of consciousness and how consciousness projects geometric
patterns that interface with this um matrix that

698
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:15.480
we're in and that how um how
to. One of the things is how

699
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:18.479
to clear the crystal of all the
previous imprints the crystal needs. If you're

700
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.319
going to be working with crystals,
it has to you have to clear it

701
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:28.439
out because also it'll taint the whatever
you're doing. And so I'm currently working

702
01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:34.319
on There's like four different methods that
do this, and only one is really

703
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:41.720
practical for the general public. So
I'm working on that currently. Is that

704
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:49.720
method. It's using a forty ninety
six hurts that brushes in the three axis

705
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:55.439
of the crystal. That what happens
is it resonates the crystal lattice structure and

706
01:08:55.920 --> 01:09:02.640
breaks the bonds of any other patterns
that are locked into the lottice. So

707
01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:10.560
it essentially a late racism clears the
crystal out. The trouble is, I'm

708
01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:23.960
finding that these you know, tuning
forks, they're not exactly on frequency we

709
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:30.960
use, and so I believe in
order to to effectively resonate the lottice,

710
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:33.880
it has to be out exactly on
the frequency. But I'm I'm getting that.

711
01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:39.880
I'm currently working on confirming confirming that
while at the same time working with

712
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:47.319
these two scientists on building the coil
structure for the frill generation of the crystal,

713
01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:56.720
which has implications for not only m
you know, regeneration for the human

714
01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:01.880
body, but also could be used
for irrigation, you know, to feed

715
01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:11.279
since we're having so many issues with
our food supply lately because people able to

716
01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:16.159
grow productively, you know, food
that's nutrient. I understand they're wanting to

717
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:25.439
put you know what they what they
inject in people into our food. Biden

718
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:32.199
just signed a executive order to allow
that to start happening and an informed consent.

719
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:35.520
It's not something that they require to
do, so, you know,

720
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:43.479
all these things need to be brought
to the public's attention of of these elements

721
01:10:43.520 --> 01:10:47.880
that are going against humanity. If
you if you got the frill generator to

722
01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:55.399
work, are there other applications as
well? Um uh. The other one

723
01:10:55.560 --> 01:11:02.039
was telepathic communication through opening up the
the vortex within the crystal that threw the

724
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:11.840
but um, yeah, exactly,
like jen Han had to get that was

725
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:15.720
the second thing that he had to
get permission he had to get clearance in

726
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:23.760
order to UM you know, share. But now could you could you use

727
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:27.560
that to establish like permanent telepathic links, like could you use the crystal to

728
01:11:27.800 --> 01:11:31.520
like if we were to practice,
you know, using the vortex in the

729
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:36.079
crystal and then could we like turn
the crystal off and keep that connection.

730
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:43.359
Do you think UM it has the
potential it has? You know, I

731
01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:48.159
don't have enough information as as yet
to you know, fully elaborate on that.

732
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:56.960
But from what I understand, the
when you're able to go into this

733
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:10.079
open vortex of that's connects to the
singularity that's connected to everything, um it

734
01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:15.439
acts as a as a connect It's
similar to you know how the quantum devices,

735
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:23.039
like the device that Elana has that
communicates with them that they use quantum.

736
01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:28.239
You know, they don't use electromagnetics
like we do UM. They use

737
01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:34.279
and their power generation on their planet
era that Jen Han shared with me,

738
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:43.720
they have these giant crystals that they're
talking six feet tall that have this wire

739
01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:49.840
configuration that generates a torsion field and
connects to these pyramidal structures that transmit they

740
01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:54.359
see all of their When we were
talking about wires, he didn't understand what

741
01:12:54.399 --> 01:12:58.720
we were talking about, because they
don't use wires. Everything's wirelessly every uh,

742
01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:03.600
the power and everything that they use
that let's generated. Now we can't

743
01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:13.399
we can't go into obviously power generation
yet until the deep state elements are taken

744
01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:18.640
down, as I had ten years
experience with UM. Couldn't you know?

745
01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:25.720
Could we could we Like, let's
say Jen Hann who's a Paadian or what's

746
01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:30.640
his Yeah, he's from the planet
era, he's a pleadion. UM.

747
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:33.159
Let's say he like dropped dropped you
a working model, Like he woke up

748
01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:36.479
one day in your laboratory. You
just had a device because he left it

749
01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:42.079
as a present for you. Uh. You could you could then just start

750
01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:46.039
to copy and manufacture it and sort
of disseminated person to person right without anyone

751
01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:51.840
knowing. No, I uh have
been authorized for me to be able to

752
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:56.840
share this with all the Terrans they
call him, you know, the people

753
01:13:56.880 --> 01:14:00.640
of Earth, so I can freely
share all the information, in fact,

754
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:03.720
all the notes on Marcel Vogel dot
org. If there's a link there and

755
01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:09.800
you can see the PDF with a
hundred pages of questions and answers. So

756
01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:16.199
I'm authorized to be able to share
this information. So he's not going to

757
01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:20.079
drop, you know, teleport something
in my in my office. Okay,

758
01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:25.000
but but so, um, what
I'm saying is like you could circumvent the

759
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:29.399
Deep State, like you said that, we would have to h we have

760
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:32.800
to wait until the deep state is
no longer suppressing this. But you're already

761
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:39.239
talking about it, right Yeah,
Well it's it's quite apparent the Deep state's

762
01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:47.399
alive and well on planet Earth.
M and and you know there's far more

763
01:14:47.479 --> 01:14:53.239
of us than it is of them. And that's why I mean, you

764
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:59.760
haven't been you haven't been shut down
disseminating this information. No, I have

765
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:03.560
not been. I have not been. I'm not touching certain areas. You

766
01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:09.239
know I won't. I won't go
into energy production. Energy production and be

767
01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:15.600
very dangerous for me to get into. I'm just what I'm doing is practical

768
01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:21.960
healing methods and different applications that crystals
can be used for the benefit of humanity.

769
01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:27.760
Um. If, as jen Han
said, if it's not, I'm

770
01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:31.720
going to be in trouble. So
um, you know, I'm just basically

771
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:42.279
doing benevolent applications with the use of
crystals, not anything that would threaten the

772
01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:50.319
power structure of the deep state is
controlling other than the consciousness of helping,

773
01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:58.000
helping to awaken more people. Mum, I remember seeing a diagram where there's

774
01:15:58.039 --> 01:16:03.239
like purple crystals around that same generator. Do you know what those are?

775
01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:10.479
Like? What is what is the
She saw that there was like I think

776
01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:15.319
six purple like crystals that were at
a different angle and it's feeding him into

777
01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:20.960
a pyramid. She Um, she
physically saw that, and so she was

778
01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:30.199
recreating the image. And I don't
understand the um mechanisms of how the crystals

779
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:36.399
interfaced with the larger crystal. Gotcha. So the future future research or further

780
01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:45.880
information needed, is that right?
Uh? Yeah, it's um. You

781
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:48.399
know, their technology is so far
advanced. So I'm kind of I'm kind

782
01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:55.960
of doing a kindey Garten level here
of of of understanding the crystal technology.

783
01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:03.119
What what do you still want to
ask Jen Jen Han, Like, what's

784
01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:08.920
what are your sort of burning questions
about this? Well, Elena and I

785
01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:15.399
are planning on doing uh yeah,
if you go to Elena denn d an

786
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:19.159
aa n dot org her website,
we're doing it. Going to be doing

787
01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:26.159
a series of crystal classes and how
to utilize the crystals and someone are going

788
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:32.880
to be based on not only doctor
Marcel Vogel, but um the latest information

789
01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:40.439
with Jen Han um on on healing
techniques that people could use with the crystal

790
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:48.000
and in different applications. UM.
One of the first classes is going to

791
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:53.239
be on how to completely clear the
crystal the previous imprints because you have to

792
01:17:54.960 --> 01:18:00.079
you have to do that first,
and then how to use the crystal on

793
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:04.880
another person or how to do it
on yourself. Um, and then uh,

794
01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:10.760
and then a lot of it's going
to go into uh theory of you

795
01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:17.000
know, the the you know that
my two scientists friends are hitting me with

796
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:24.960
all these all these all these questions
you can imagine, um to understand the

797
01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:30.039
physics of how they do it on
planet Era that's different than how they do

798
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:39.680
it on planet Earth. So UM, we will probably explore that does planet

799
01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:45.319
Era have the same physics totally totally
different or thousands of years in advance?

800
01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:51.760
Um, you know they live their
average lifespan is uh, you know,

801
01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:58.359
nine hundred to fifteen hundred years.
Our average life span on planet Earth.

802
01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:05.800
Last time I check with seventy five
years. Um, the yeah, I'm

803
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:12.560
I'll be seventy four this next week. You know WHOA yeah, you don't

804
01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:17.079
look seventy four. Yeah, I
try to have a good diet. Maybe

805
01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:23.760
maybe you're already using your crystals.
Oh, I don't know if it has

806
01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:30.279
anything to do with it. I
think it's being being in a harmonious,

807
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:34.600
loving state and eating organic food and
um, you know all that helps.

808
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:44.279
You mentioned this term planetary matrix earlier. I was wondering if you could expand

809
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:48.920
on what that means. Yeah,
the planetary matrix. U Thorhan. I'm

810
01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:55.600
not Thorhan, but jen Hand rather
knows a lot about this. Being a

811
01:19:55.720 --> 01:20:04.880
terraformer, Um, it is.
It is this matrix in which all life

812
01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:11.840
is interconnected to on a planet.
Like say he said, for example,

813
01:20:11.920 --> 01:20:15.279
if you were to use a crystal
from Mars, it wouldn't have doesn't have

814
01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:20.319
a resonance with Earth. It only
resonates with Mars. If you have Earth

815
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:27.760
crystals, it resonates with the planetary
matrix. Our bodies, our DNA,

816
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:32.279
resonates with Earth. You know,
we're our bodies are made up of the

817
01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:40.479
Earth, so we're part of this
planetary matrix. So we have the ability

818
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:45.800
to the planetary matrix affects us,
and we have the ability to affect it.

819
01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:53.640
And but you were talking about like
nested platonic solids as being part of

820
01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:59.840
the planetary matrix. I'm sure that
that's part of it. As I research

821
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:06.399
over the decades, I find that
the platonic solids are in planetary bodies,

822
01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:15.039
the planetary orbits. There's a fractal
relationship from a proton to the universe.

823
01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:21.479
That's a scaled fractal relationship. You
know. Our DNA has this uh the

824
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:31.279
decahedral geometry to it. Even the
periodic typele of elements has this um um

825
01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:40.800
tetrahedral geometry that relates to the different
elements that we have. And it's interesting.

826
01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:46.039
On the and on the Secret Space
Program on they have what's called replicators.

827
01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:50.079
You know, you want to replicate
a cheeseburger and a chocolate shake.

828
01:21:50.159 --> 01:21:57.560
You know, it'll it's like you
can record and play back, you know,

829
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:05.319
um and so um. Yeah,
it's amazing the sciences that we will.

830
01:22:06.399 --> 01:22:13.439
You know, our our whole system
has been infiltrated, UMU corrupted our

831
01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:19.039
education system. Science we don't we're
not taught the full physics that you know,

832
01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:25.920
these scientists are fully aware of that
or been working in these uh these

833
01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:31.720
other projects that the public's not aware
of. We've been talking about quartz.

834
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:39.079
Um. There's a lot of other
crystals that people use in metaphysical practices.

835
01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:45.159
Um, Are there any other significant
crystals you've come across? Quartz is the

836
01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:51.000
most universal um. The other crystals
that have you know, like amethysts,

837
01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:57.159
rose quartz, garnered diamonds, rubies, emeralds, you know, they all

838
01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:02.960
have their um, their particular geometries
within, and they have their own qualities,

839
01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:09.720
you know, but they're they're specific
to those particular qualities. Whereas quartz

840
01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:16.199
as a universal matrix that is resonant
to everything. It's like water. Water

841
01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:23.479
is also resonant to everything. As
they dug down in Antarctica to these ice

842
01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:28.880
core samples, they found that in
these ice core samples that every single one

843
01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:35.039
of the seven major classes of crystallography
are exhibited in water, showing that it

844
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:46.239
has this ability to be universally resonant
with all the geometries, all the all

845
01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:51.720
the crystal forms. Is that what
you mean? Yeah? In in water,

846
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:58.760
as it as it turns into ice, as it transitions um, it

847
01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:05.680
can form into front geometries, and
those geometries they found to be across the

848
01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:17.279
entire spectrum that we know of in
the world of crystallography. Gotcha. Yeah,

849
01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:25.079
so water and quartz are sort of
intimately linked because of what how they

850
01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:31.119
can sort of bridge dimensions and how
they're universal sort of, Yes, they

851
01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:40.479
both act as interdimensional bridges. Interesting
anything else that interacts with quarts and water

852
01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:45.840
in the same way or functions the
same way water. You know, water

853
01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:53.399
is a profound study, you know
when you understand the geometry of it.

854
01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:58.600
And it's interesting. Both water and
quartz are both hexagonal, right m.

855
01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:09.239
And this hexagonal structure appears to be
the basic fundamental of the of the matrix,

856
01:25:09.319 --> 01:25:13.720
which is, you know, tetrahedral
and hexagonal. That's really interesting.

857
01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:19.680
Every time I do a psilocybin journey, I see like a honeycomb. I

858
01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:25.960
start like getting a lot of I
always attribute it to bees, but it's

859
01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:33.399
like I can see the honeycomb um
sort of structure beneath. I hadn't put

860
01:25:33.439 --> 01:25:38.680
that together before. Yeah, yeah, that's the structure of the matrix.

861
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:45.760
Really interesting. Fact it's written about
in some of the ancient writings. You

862
01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:50.039
know, Madame Bolbotsky and the Secret
Doctor and talked about the ancient standsas the

863
01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:57.760
dizzyan whereas the matrix is the hexagonal
matrix, which has you know, the

864
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:03.439
six sides, but in the center
is the is spirit. It was where

865
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:10.399
it emanates from the from the And
it's interesting that was kind of related to

866
01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:15.960
that question I asked jen hand about
the center of the center of the hexagon.

867
01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:26.880
There is something, um, something
very special that's happening there. Yeah.

868
01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:32.079
Interesting. I love your questions.
By the way, Derek, I'm

869
01:26:32.159 --> 01:26:40.600
just I'm sketching out the the If
you have those two triangles right, then

870
01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:44.079
you have the hexagon in the middle
and you have six points, but you

871
01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:51.640
also have six vortices of interactions,
so you essentially have like twelve twelve points

872
01:26:53.359 --> 01:26:58.720
there and then you have a point
in the middle and it's thirteen. Um

873
01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:02.840
hmm. There's something that I'm gonna
have to and have to think about that.

874
01:27:03.239 --> 01:27:08.039
Um. I feel like I'm I
feel like I've covered a lot of

875
01:27:08.039 --> 01:27:12.319
the stuff that I wanted to ask
you about. Oh, I'd love to

876
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:15.680
hear a little bit of I saw
you live. You were telling me you

877
01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:18.640
live off grid in the kind of
in the wilderness, and I think I

878
01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:23.720
saw that you live in a in
a dome that you built I'd love to

879
01:27:23.760 --> 01:27:30.319
just hear a little bit about your
living situation, and yeah, it sounds

880
01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:34.000
kind of experimental in a way,
or trying to weave in a lot of

881
01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:40.920
your other research and interests into your
into your home. When I was working

882
01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:44.720
for the government on all the electronic
equipment, I was trying to plot my

883
01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:48.319
escape. You know, I wanted
to get I wanted to be self sufficient

884
01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:53.920
and not have to hustle worry about, you know, getting for money.

885
01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:58.880
And so my my dream was to
be able to be completely self sufficient out

886
01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:04.000
in nature, um, you know, not needing to So, you know,

887
01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:10.680
after I did some work, I
had an internet business, and I

888
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:14.680
was able to figure out search engine
algorithms and was able to make them blast

889
01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:17.840
a little blast of money in order
enough to purchase some land. And so

890
01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:25.800
I came up to Oregon and found
a good deal on a piece of property

891
01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:30.399
that was up on top of a
mountain, and I ordered this, uh,

892
01:28:30.439 --> 01:28:38.319
this kit that this jadese. It
was a first cement jadesec dome in

893
01:28:38.399 --> 01:28:42.680
Oregon. Um. I met my
wife up here and then we both worked

894
01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:46.920
together and we put it. We
put it together. You know, three

895
01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:50.359
hundred pound triangles you had they had
to bring a crane and everything and cement

896
01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:55.640
the whole thing together. Um,
and so you know, initially I just

897
01:28:55.680 --> 01:29:00.239
came up in an airstream trailer I
was living. We lived together and stir

898
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:05.319
stream trailer for a few years.
And the I've set up you know,

899
01:29:05.439 --> 01:29:11.359
solar array and I had Internet connection
and it was great, you know,

900
01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:15.319
because I have I don't have any
water bills. I have a well that's

901
01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:23.479
powered by some solar panels that keep
us with water. We got plenty of

902
01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:31.239
power, electrical power, are heating
we do with deadwood on the property.

903
01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:36.479
We have a boiler that feeds a
radiant floor to keep us warm in the

904
01:29:36.520 --> 01:29:43.359
winter and the summertime. We route
the irrigation water through the floor, cools

905
01:29:43.399 --> 01:29:47.039
it and an evaporat or cooler and
so we have no heating or cooling bills.

906
01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:51.159
And because we're on top of a
mountain, we're a relay for the

907
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:56.560
valley down below for internet, so
we send the internet signal down. So

908
01:29:56.600 --> 01:30:01.159
we don't have any internet bill,
no water bills, no electric bills,

909
01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:08.199
no heating bills, no cooling bills. Are our you know phone. We

910
01:30:08.399 --> 01:30:12.680
use uh, you know Skype,
which is like a thirty bucks a year,

911
01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:16.640
so basically, and we're growing our
own food. We're built a greenhouse

912
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:26.279
and we're using these UM growing towers
that use verma composting and each tower yields

913
01:30:26.319 --> 01:30:30.000
about fifty plants and we got all
six of them. And so we're producing

914
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:34.199
our own food, which is that's
our that's our main expense that we have

915
01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:41.880
is UH food. But all the
rest of the bills have been eliminated pretty

916
01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:46.960
much, and so we live like
millionaires on a beggar's budget. You could

917
01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:53.520
say, um, see, your
food budget is like supplementing what you can

918
01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:56.199
grow, like when you go to
the grocery and get extra food, is

919
01:30:56.239 --> 01:31:00.800
it right? Yeah, there's nothing
that's the medicine, you know, nothing

920
01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:06.520
like the life force and live organic
food that has been taint messed with UM

921
01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:15.760
to UH to keep you healthy.
And so how about community if you're outside

922
01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:18.640
of town, Like, one thing
that I really prize is just being able

923
01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:23.520
to run into people as I'm out
and about in my day. How has

924
01:31:23.560 --> 01:31:28.760
that been for you? We my
wife and I are both hermits, so

925
01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:33.199
so we love being isolated away from
everybody. So okay, it works out

926
01:31:33.239 --> 01:31:38.960
really well that way. But you
know, um, we have about twenty

927
01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:42.960
two acres. I have a security
system all around, you know, just

928
01:31:43.039 --> 01:31:49.000
in case any crazies come. And
uh, you know, we have just

929
01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:56.239
a few choice friends that you know, rarely we interface with. But but

930
01:31:56.439 --> 01:32:05.319
yeah, that's most of our social
life is unfortunately on the internet. Yeah,

931
01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:11.560
thanks for sharing. We we put
on pause. But for the last

932
01:32:11.640 --> 01:32:15.359
couple of years we were building a
community, shopping for land or trying to

933
01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:20.560
get about twenty five to fifty friends
together to build a little mini village.

934
01:32:21.560 --> 01:32:26.279
It'd be like a sort of a
scaled up version of your your place,

935
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:30.119
you know. But we never shared
need any advice. I've mastered the art

936
01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:40.359
of living well without monthly expenses.
Amazing. Yeah. Um, you know,

937
01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:43.920
I saw our project as it's kind
of like let's let's see what we

938
01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:50.479
can incorporate, you know, like
we're all encountering really amazing ideas and either

939
01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:57.520
in building or in governance or food
growing. So like let's build a community,

940
01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:00.279
but let's also use it as a
as a canvas for for experimentation.

941
01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:04.479
Um oh yeah, like Buck Minister
Fuller said, you know, don't find

942
01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:09.439
the existing reality, create a new
one. The old one becomes obsolete.

943
01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:14.079
Everybody moves over to it. That's
yeah, that's the that's the vision.

944
01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:17.760
Um. So we uh, we're
having we're having a kid in June,

945
01:33:18.199 --> 01:33:24.800
so we kind of put the project
on pause until we can devote more attention

946
01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:28.600
to it. But oh, I
totally. You know, when these energy

947
01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:32.640
devices get released, anti gravity vehicles, med belts, you know, we

948
01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:38.079
can extend our lives, you know, hundreds of years, and you can

949
01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:42.760
populate remote places on the plant.
There's plenty of places where you can have,

950
01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:46.199
you know, with you can generate
you know, your own food,

951
01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:53.119
water, power, everything with a
little small energy device that to give you

952
01:33:53.239 --> 01:33:57.279
multiple killer watts and uh, you
know you don't even need roads, so

953
01:33:59.159 --> 01:34:04.600
yeah, you know you can go
anywhere. I recommend doing alternative you know

954
01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:13.840
housing, so that you know the
insulation and everything is you know, optimal,

955
01:34:14.039 --> 01:34:16.359
making the most of what resources you
have, you know, for heating

956
01:34:16.359 --> 01:34:23.560
and cooling. I had you mentioned
your your house was cement or concrete um

957
01:34:25.199 --> 01:34:29.600
our forty insulation. It's about seven
inches of foam on the inside and about

958
01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:34.600
an inch of concrete on the outside, and and so the floor acts of

959
01:34:34.680 --> 01:34:42.000
the huge thermal mass that they want. It's heated sustains for quite a while

960
01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:47.880
I heard of this um bio ceramic
um sort of like, oh, right,

961
01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:53.880
you can. It's kind of like
creating like creating bones, but you're

962
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:58.199
using most of the carbon from the
atmosphere and then sort of three D pinching

963
01:34:58.239 --> 01:35:02.000
this biocereamic and do geodesic shapes and
you can make these modular homes from them.

964
01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:08.479
Um, that seemed like really cool
once up too. You can start

965
01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:10.399
with a small home, right,
and then you could just like kind of

966
01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:15.880
add link link add Oh yeah,
I'm big believer in tiny homes. Tiny

967
01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:17.680
homes. You know, you can
do it. You can do it so

968
01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:21.439
right, so that you know you
have all your basic necessities. You know,

969
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:25.880
you think about it. You know, so much less the heat and

970
01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:31.279
cool um, less to keep clean, you know, you have you knows

971
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:36.920
so many benefits of having a plus
less cost of materials, less taxes if

972
01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:42.279
you're you know, for square footage. Uh, and then you can always

973
01:35:42.359 --> 01:35:44.840
expand you know, you can also
build a little barn if you have,

974
01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:47.119
like, you know a large collection
of stuff you need to you know,

975
01:35:47.239 --> 01:35:55.319
put so your laboratory right at the
lab. You know. Yeah, although

976
01:35:55.359 --> 01:36:00.359
I am I'm a huge fan of
chateaus and like really nice, big houses,

977
01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:03.039
like the personal personal passion of mine. So I'm trying to figure out

978
01:36:03.039 --> 01:36:09.000
how to how to weave those two
together. You can do it. I've

979
01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:16.560
done it, and I absolutely recommend
it and love it totally. Let's see

980
01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:21.720
if I have I think that kind
of wraps up a lot of my questions.

981
01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:26.800
Is there anything I haven't asked you
about that you want to make sure

982
01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:36.760
you touch on? Um? I
I don't know. We covered some ground.

983
01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:45.239
UM. I think I think we're
good. Um I'm trying to nothing

984
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:50.239
nothing comes to mind that we where
would you like to point people to find

985
01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:54.359
out more about you or your work? Oh? My, it's not a

986
01:36:54.359 --> 01:36:58.079
professional site, you know. It's
just when that media company wanted me to

987
01:36:58.079 --> 01:37:00.680
write an article I started, you
know, I decided to put it onto

988
01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:04.000
onto the web, and then I
just kept adding and adding to it.

989
01:37:04.359 --> 01:37:11.600
The web matrix dot net is the
site that goes from the year nineteen hundred

990
01:37:11.640 --> 01:37:15.319
to almost present day. I kind
of like, if people don't figure it

991
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:19.720
out by by the last year or
two what's going on, then there's no

992
01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:25.119
sense in me really continuing on any
further. Um. And it's just like

993
01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:28.239
it's never ending. The story you
know, as it gets going and it

994
01:37:28.239 --> 01:37:34.760
gets more, um more, way
more bizarre. You know, if you're

995
01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:43.000
you haven't, if you haven't researched. H it just it really keeps its

996
01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:48.560
own best secrecy because it just sounds
too far fetched for the average normal person

997
01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:56.159
to imagine, you know, such
things are going on. M Okay,

998
01:37:57.600 --> 01:38:00.279
well, thanks, thanks so much, Dan, it's been It was a

999
01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:03.760
pleasure in time with you. Pleasure. And yeah, I'll have to check

1000
01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:10.880
out the latest versions of the Bianchie
bicycle. It was my favorite. I

1001
01:38:10.920 --> 01:38:15.600
loved my I used to polish my
stainless steel spokes and true my wheels,

1002
01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:19.039
and I used to do like twenty
five miles a day and fifty to one

1003
01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:25.680
hundred on the weekends. And um, I used to love that so much

1004
01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:30.279
when I was in my teenage days. Yep, yeah, those those bikes

1005
01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:33.720
have always been good looking. And
uh, when I was a teenager,

1006
01:38:33.720 --> 01:38:40.000
when I was thirteen, as when
I started cycling, and we would,

1007
01:38:40.279 --> 01:38:42.479
you know, my other thirteen year
old friend and I we would go on

1008
01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:45.640
these long sort of adventures and it
was like the first taste of real independence,

1009
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:48.000
right, you know, our parents
didn't know where we were. We

1010
01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:53.319
could just like pick up place and
just go there. It's amazing. Yeah.

1011
01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:57.079
Oh cool, fantastic. Yeah,
thanks so much, Dan, great

1012
01:38:57.079 --> 01:39:00.880
today, you app pleasure again