Hey, everybody, welcome to Rose Pricks. It's back to what are we
doing Love Is Blind. I've got two episodes that are going to be crammed
into one, but I'm going to tell you something. It's not going to
really matter. It's not going to feel like they're crammed into one because there's
so much fucking wedding dress shopping and I hate that. Okay, two things
I'm going to say. Okay, One, I fast forwarded through a lot
of that. I hit my wall with as and I've done this a while
back. You know, it's not my favorite show, so I just like
I hit a wall with Love is Blind. Don't worry, We're still gonna
bring it today. But I have a memory of being on the phone with
you when you were getting married to John. I mean I was at the
wedding, but you were looking for like kind of something to wear, but
you're very dress well yes, but it was very sex in the city,
Miranda, because it was very like I do not Oh my god, I
feel like these women. You say, you're getting married and you want to
dress and people are bringing you like two joos and you're like, okay,
no, remember that conversation. Yeah, I find a very like beautiful white.
I mean, your dress was beautiful. It was perfect. It was
it was very simple. It was a clintalk. I think it was like
a bridesmaid's dress maybe even. I mean, it was so gorgeous. It
was the perfect color, the perfect fabric. Like you looked so but it
was like you didn't want like two year old. So watching them do this,
I was thinking about you, like how much worse even for you?
Because it's just like, oh, come on, yeah. Also, I
just don't care about watching people go shopping. It's my favorite thing. And
then there's so many forced conversations in there with like the parents and like you
look so beautiful and I'm so the only thing and I'll you know what,
I'll say this now. I was going to say it later, but it
doesn't matter because we can just skip through the scene now. But the only
thing that I loved is Bliss's mom is so amazing. I love it so
much. She's so supportive, and the whole time I was just like,
why can't Bliss's mom be my mom? I know, how do I think
that'll happen? I need a mom. Bliss doesn't even need a mom.
She's fine, she's veried together, Like, why can't Bliss his mom?
She can't share, you can share her mom. I mean the bad news
is like your luck is going to be that you'll get Bliss his dad,
which is he's not great, although I kind of sided with him a little
bit, but we'll get to that. We'll get to that because we had
a big thing with the dad and Zach which was tough to watch, but
I kind of understand where the dads was coming from on that. So episode
ten, we start out with Josh and Jackie and listen, I'm just gonna
tell you. I'm gonna tell you right now, right fucking now, that
Jackie is a bold faced liar and I'm gonna tell you why because Jackie has
come out and I teased this at the last episode you may remember, but
Jackie has come out and said, oh, the editors did me dirty.
And I had already broken up with Marshall when they when we shot that scene
in the coffee shop with me and Josh kind of getting together, I'd already
broken up with Marshall. Not true. There's definitely definitely no way that's possible.
Because later in the episode, so they're sitting there in the thing,
and she says she says to camera, like, I haven't talked to Josh
since Chelsea's party. Okay, so seeing him today blah blah blah. All
right, But then later she tells Marshall, yeah, I just saw Josh.
Oh like, oh really, so there's so do you see what I'm
saying, there's no way that the breakup already happened if she's in the coffee
shop, and she says, I haven't. I haven't seen Josh since then,
And then later when she breaks up with Marshall, she's like, yeah,
I just saw Josh and he's he's into me basically, and I want
to be with him. Yeah. I mean, look, I'm not surprised
by anything that you say that's sociopathic about Jackie. I mean, of course
she's lying. She's lying, she's mean, but easy to prove that she's
lying. I don't know why she's coming out on ig going that's so wrong.
And they did this. They shouldn't have done that to me. It's
like, bet you did it to yourself. I'm so. She strikes me
as someone that would like sue producers, you know what I mean, like
would do all this shit and then like turn it on you like she's she
scares the hell out of me. I'm so glad Marshall got out when he
did. Josh is so perfect for her, and I don't know if they
end up consuming, they don't end up together, but like he's just so
the dangling cross earring the cringe, like, oh, yeah, it's all
bad. It's just bad bad, And I'm not I'm not physically, I
mean, they're both beautiful people. Like it's not physical, they're just and
it's not even really Josh's fault. He liked her, she chose Marshall.
He's just trying to get his now because she's giving him like this message basically
that like, well Marshall's not man enough for me. Oh behind me,
I'll take my time. What happened behind the scenes is that he picked somebody
else. He was between. He was between Jackie and another girl, and
this is why he and Marshall ended up kind of in a fight, because
Marshall thought Josh was all set, like Marshall didn't have any Josh was like,
yeah, like this other girl. So then later when Marshall's like,
why are you freaking telling Jackie that, like you're gonna leave if if it's
not if you're not with her. That's what in retrospect, Marshall was complaining
about this. Later he's like, I don't know why he said he liked
somebody else, he was going to propose to somebody else. Oh my god.
So that is why I was so like, what the fuck? Like,
why is this guy? Why is he telling Jackie like I'm gonna leave
if I can't be with you? M hmm yeah, anyway, that is
ridiculous. And then when she tells the things, she's like, I told
him to boss up, like she's talking so much shit about him. You
know, it's so mean because we all talk shit, like everybody vents about
everybody. You know, I get that, but not on camp. I'm
not going to come here name names and talk shit. That's just mean.
And Marshall never did anything to deserve that. Really, I was so mad
and that she's like, but I'm willing to be with you, like poor
Marshall, good, go be with Josh. Yeah. And then she is
of course so crass. She's like, yeah, like when you came in
to the like Chelsea's party, like my nipples got hard, like I heard
your voice and my nipples got hard. And he's like that's a little scary,
but okay, I mean I'm not going to be ignored Josh. Yeah,
she said that. Yeah, okay, So then we go, oh
god, so we go briefly back to the suit fitting. Yeah, and
Marshall's really about now he's starting to get pissed. Yeah, well he had
finally. Yeah. She's like, He's like, she didn't even text me,
like come on, like I'm over it. It was how that's tough
to watch? That was really kind of tough. Well, a lot of
it was tough to watch with Mica and Candy Finnigan. I keep thinking her
mom is Candy Finnigan. Candy Finnigan from Intervention? Is there for there's a
lot of reason to Clare, who loves you like crazy? I just want
to see you get your life back. And Mike's like, I have my
life. I love Paul and is this perm? I love a perm guy.
And she's like, I just I've seen you guys. You're drunk at
the clubs. You're in the clubs as you kids would say, and I
just I don't want you doing that. Taking all this Fentanel and whatnot.
And she's like, I don't I'm not taking any fentanel and the huffing,
huffing, the fumes, the computer cleaner what No, Well, I know
your friend Shelby's doing that. Okay, Well it's Shelby. Man. She's
never going to be a friend of mine. I'll tell you that, I
will. Okay, let me ask you this. If you had to choose,
okay, for a friend, you had to go for a best friend,
and you had to spend an entire week just the two of you,
no phones, nothing, It's just the two of you talking, and you
had to choose between Shelby. I'm gonna try to make this really hard,
um, Jackie on her worst day. So Jackie's having like a meltdown,
Shelby or who would the third one be? Candy? Actually, Candy Finn
again? Well, you would choose Candy Fin again. Of course, we'd
talk all day about sobriety and like, okay, do MICA's mom. We'd
have a meeting. Oh okay, so MICA's mom, Jackie or Shelby.
Uh huh, but y'all day for twenty fo hours a day, seven for
seven. Oh god, you know what you're gonna kill me. I think
I would pick Shelby at this point, I think I No, I mean
I would Candy Fin again. No, I mean the MoMA, MIA's mom,
MICA's mom add the most boring. You'd be making small talk with Micah's
freaking mom for twenty four hours of small talk. Okay, I'd rather Shelby
would beat you up. She would make me laugh. Shelby, what do
you think I would just I would just be like, oh my god,
she's and she would be She would entertain herself, you know what I mean.
She would start a conversation and then you wouldn't even have to be there.
She would just be talking. She would take herself out. Yes,
and I would have access. If she had access to alcohol, that'd be
good and bad because she would go to real fast but also she'd be pretty
terrible. Well, we can still go with the mom when she was sober.
So their dress shopping and she gets Shelby gets interviewed, and she's like
a different person. She goes. I think Paul's a really nice guy and
he probably wouldn't hurt her, But I don't know if she'll say yes.
Which was like one hundred and eighty degrees from girls. He's at it.
It ain't it. And it's terrifying that someone can't be like that. I
mean, she's so she's so much. She terrifies me. She'd be I
mean, Jackie would be last place, but I definitely And and it's so
funny. Even when she's saying like, I don't know, I don't know,
you can tell the mom doesn't like Paul. Shelby doesn't like Paul.
I feel like there's stuff we maybe you know this, and I know who
ends up. I know what happens now, but stuff that they haven't seen.
But maybe the stuff that they just didn't see, or that he didn't
see as an audience, because like, I don't know why they would all
think that Paul was terrible for her. I would think he'd be great for
her. They're just different, very different, very different. Well, they
don't like remember earlier when Shelby was drunk and Mike is like, yeah,
Paul's an environmental scientist, and then Shelby goes, yeah, that's not my
kind of person. I don't like a scientist. I don't like, oh
gosh, Paul, the big brains. Also, everybody brought somebody right,
and everyone somebody was annoying me except for I mean, Bliss's mom is adorable.
But even when Bliss like she herself and she's like, this is my
beautiful baby, like this is my baby's sister, this is my baby mom.
I swear she said baby mom. She probably didn't say that, but
that's what I heard. And then Kwami brought Jack from the pods. Who's
Jack? What? I know because he because Quam is the only one that
isn't actually from Seattle's from Portland, so he had to come up with a
new friend so much, I really do, and I will get to that,
but I have to say I was shocked how that turned out. So
the ammy bone I have to pick with Bliss's mom is that when Bliss comes
out in the dress with these giant, giantic michelin Man sleeves, yeah right
yeah, and Bliss's mom is just like, oh, it's perfect, Like
no, it's not, can you It was very Renaissance fair yeah, like
would you be my wench for the name? And then you're like, please
stop talking like us, you're my friend. I know that you're just in
this theater group. I know you. Okay, okay, sold we can
have an I have a sold fight, like a fight one right. Yeah.
Remember the Genine Garoffalo joke about renfairs. It's one of my It's one
of the reasons I wanted to go into stand up because of that Janine Garoffalo
joke. How do you say? Um? She goes, I already get
a diet coke and she's like, pranktail is a diet coke And You're like,
you're wearing a swatch. Yes. I saw that so long ago.
It was like in the eighties. She had done some show on Comedy Central
or something, and I never even really understood that. I never saw comics
in a way that like, oh I could do that. I'm kind of
like her, that's my boy, you know what I mean. I was
like, because we'd only seen like Clasby and Eddie Murphy, Like I didn't.
It never occurred to me. So it like led me to loss of
all of the everything we're doing right now is because of that joke. That
was the funniest. And all my friends, because I went to performing arts
performing arts high school, they all loved renaissance fairs all the theater, of
course they did. And I was like the only one that was like,
what's wrong with me? Why does everyone love this? This? This is
terrible? Well you were right, thank you? Okay, So marsh that
oh well that brought a sister, that's all I okay, yeah, cute
sister. And then I wrote who cares? I fast forwarded exactly. I
bring us too, and then you tell me if you have anything before this,
but I bring us to Marshall coming back into the place and Jackie's sitting
there and she's like, Hi, how are you, like as if he
just came back from you know, walking the dog. I'm trying, and
then he does like a drinda kind of a not good bitch. I have
that way later. I definitely put a few things down there really quick.
Go ahead, tell you, of course, because I do have that way
later. All right, they're all just being annoying to me because everyone's like,
oh my gosh, someone does that. They had the aid is something
I must have been Micah, I think so. And then Tiffany, of
course, I wrote Paul's Harris grown like a chia pet. I feel that
was important to write down. M but it had like it had been like
you added a little water and it just got like kind of a little bit
bigger, and it gone to the point where I wrote, I really would
like to see him with a mohawk. That's something I was feeling at the
time. Then I just got to Shelby. It was like, Shelby's there,
now she likes Paul because that's that happened a little later. Let me
just make sure there's nothing else pink. Oh god, Yeah, I was
getting very annoyed with Chelsea um because she's just so proud of herself about the
pink. She's like still pink pumps. She like raises her dress. She
looked beautiful. But it's like, we get it, girl, you're like
thirty five pink. You don't have to own pink. Yeah, probably exactly
exactly. And she's just holding court with all her speeches and like just gets
bigger and bigger, like and I'm gonna have swans, like if she's always
upping the anti and everything in our house is gonna be pink, and there's
gonna be at a moat. And then here's the thing that could have annoyed
me. She's just she the cute siness of the thing. We've talked about
this or I've said this a lot about like house Hunters, where they're always
like, oh my god, we're so different. You're such a husband,
my darling husband. We're nice. She was going to go, but then
she said something. She was talking about how beautiful she looked in her dress.
She's like, oh my god, Kwamie's gonna be speechless for the first
time. She does this laugh, and I'm like, oh my god.
First of all, between the two of you, Kwamie's not the one that's
talking too much. Oh that just really. But I also put that Zach
was being kind of sweet. I guess when they went back to his suit
fitting, he's kind of he grows on me and then like grows off me.
Right right then I wrote that now I'm to where you just were.
Bliss's mom is so sweet, but that dress is kind of awful, like
a Renaissance scars to see all right now now I'm caught up. Now Marshall
okay, sorry, okay, So, so Marshall's like not good. And
so then then he's like, well, why he goes why didn't? So
I'm assuming that she was like, you know, he knows she didn't show
up for the drafts or whatever, and he's like why did you say yes?
And then um, Jackie's like she's just such so full of excuses.
It was real to me, It was real to me, you know.
But gro yah, Bra, But like i'll tell you when, I'll tell
you when I was like totally off of you, bro, like when we
came back from Chelsea's party and like you were pressing on me and I was
like, bro, I'm just trying to go to bed. Like I get
you need your feelings validated or whatever, but I need my sleep when a
cuse. First of all, all she's done is cry in this show.
All she's done is be like, but my family, I don't know how
it can end. All he's done is like stand there and validate her and
be like I'm here for you, like you know, I'm here to build
you up, Like I'll stand here whatever you need from me. And now
he's like, I just want to know if like we're together, and she's
like, Brah, I need to go to sleep right right, and just
completely gaslighting him. Yeah. Completely, She's just being a monster, and
then she drops the Josh bomb. Is this where she does that? Which
is well? She says? First, she says, he says, well,
I've done nothing but right by you, and then for you to sit
here and say that I require too much, like which is true. She's
basically going, you're too much, You're too meany So then she says,
I really tried to have feelings for you, but I can't love you because
I'm attracted to Josh. She's the meanest. And then the big, the
big thing. He's like, well, i'd like my ring back, which
he said very calmly and obviously, and she's like, now I'm gonna keep
it yep, I mean, and then he finally I think he just got
I think there was like that light bulb at that moment of like, fuck
the rain, fuck all that, I mean, forget it. Yeah,
he just was like, let me just and then watching him have to pack
it really almost made me cry, Like he just doesn't even know where to
start. He has his little bag and he's like, oh, I just
felt. I know he's fine, but I mean, was I forget this?
Is it like the Bachelor where the love is Blind pays for the ring?
Or do they yes, Love is Blind paid for the ring. So
her whole thing was like, well, screw you because that you didn't buy
the ring Love is Blinded. Okay. Attitude was like, okay, but
you're supposed to only get the ring, like it's not payment for the show,
Like you weren't intending to actually do the experiment and marry me, right,
So it's not like a family heirloom or something that he gave, because
that would be I'd fight to the end of my life for that, like
for nothing else, but that no other causes. Um okay, yeah,
in that case, I think he was just throwing like he's like, she's
so disgusting. Let me see if I can get this ring and sell it.
Yes, you know, good for him, But I mean that's why
you didn't fight that hard, right, right, because that would be weird.
But it was kind of funny because he can't. He doesn't get the
opportunity to storm out because of the packing thing. He's like, all right,
well then I'm out of here as soon as I get my stuff together,
which I don't know where anything is, as soon as I get my
face wash. Oh that's him so much sensive. I really, she's so
awful. To put the two people together was really rough to see, like
one of the worst, the worst person this season. No, definitely the
worst of Jackie and then one of the best in Marshall like how sad.
So then Jackie the camera's like, you know, I'm not sorry. I'm
not sorry, but I am crazy and I need to do some self work,
except that I'm not going to I'm just gonna hook up with Josh.
And then when she's like see you around, like that was so rude,
and he goes, you know you won't, and then I love, I
love how cool he was, though he goes, I don't think you will,
and then then she cries. For a second, I was like,
oh my god, you are just nuts. Yeah, she's the worst.
She's really really the worst. I think the fact that he didn't cry.
If someone said to me after that cold and I've had some pretty cool breakups,
if they said I was like, all right, bye, see you
around. Sorry, I couldn't be attracted to you, like out of nowhere,
right, I would be losing my fucking mind. Yea cool, cool
customer. Right, I'd be like, how did I become the bad guy
in this scenario? Like you don't like me, okay, but like,
don't have to be rude about it, Okay, it's gonna be okayam are
going to have a photo shoot. She's like, as a little girl,
I dreamed of doing a sexy lingerie boodoir photo shoot with my sexy fucking husband.
I don't know how I can't. I was so grossy. Yeah,
she just kept saying, I dreamt of this. It was so Muriel's wedding.
It didn't matter who the husband was, right, it never has mattered,
Like her whole thing is like, and we'll wear pink and we'll have
pink everything. And then like, you're not five, no, not a
princess, Like what are you talking about? It didn't matter who the guy
was. But also you're also made a sexy five year old. So since
my dream of when I was five, I want to do boodoir vibes men
shots us looking like we just fucked each other's lights out. I just want
all every I just want the whole I want you to be able to smell
sex off of these photos. And so just oh my go uncomfortable, so
awkward for Kwami, but also for the photographer who's like, well he goes
to get there like he didn't even know he's not like a sex photographer.
Finally, oh my god, and she was giving me very Manson girl vibes
here. Yes, the hair always the ear sticking out, the kind of
stringy hair that's like, you know what. I haven't watched it in a
while, but I did dry shampoo, like one ear sticks out of one
side. I have that sometimes because I have thin, kind of scraggly hair,
and that happens. But like if I were on a TV show,
I kind of would probably make sure. Right, But okay, So so
then so Quannie's like, what even is this? That's what I thought he
was feeling. So I'm gonna just jump ahead a little. Okay, I'm
not gonna go to ahead because I know we're not spoiling, and just in
case people are listening, I do. I'm not gonna say, but I
do know what happens, because I did. I got through twelve. I
did. I've watched okay, ahead, so I do know what happens.
But I am shizucked, right, I am hawked. I mean I thought
I read that like, there's no way Quammie's into this, which I guess
spoiled it for you guys, But I mean, no, he's unspoiled at
this point. Okay, And then of course his mom is not into it
either, like this fake storyline that the mom was so upset. Oh yeah,
there even a mom. We know that he didn't really call her before
because there's or they recreated it. How about this maybe your mom doesn't want
to be on the television show. Yeah, well with this woman who's making
you have like sex pictures, which so he kind of gets into it,
and then they have kind of a serious conversation and it's why I was like,
why is the shirt still off for the serious convert put your shirt back
on? And then photographer having it like maybe you could bury your face and
her breast for the next couple of shots. He's like, no problem,
what right? So yeah, she's like, do you think you're ready to
marry me? And he's like, well, I know I love you,
but you know I do have some questions. And she's like, okay,
okay, but besides that, will you say yes that's right for you?
But your mom doesn't give her approval. It's it feels like something that you
would ask me. Okay, hold on, if here's your choices, okay,
okay, will you a say yes to me at the altar? Even
if your mom doesn't approve, b say no at the altar even if your
mom approves, because you think I look like a man, syval Tie your
mom up, not in a not hurting her, but just enough for she
can't like really speak her mind in a basement somewhere. Get married to me,
say yes, tell everyone you love me. Then I'll tie your mom
when it's too late for me to object. And then but then if she
really has some good reasons, then getting course, getting old? Yes?
Do you would you? Annul? Ye? Would you stay long enough?
Keep doing it? Let me ask you this before we go. Skip Tiffany
and Brett because I know we want we love them. We skip them because
we love them, right, there's nothing else to say because we love yeah,
for sure. But like, if you had to choose any of these
men, okay to marry, I mean I would choose Marshall from this particular
season, I'd go Marshall. I don't know, I don't trust his taste.
Oh good point, We're not going to ever really be mean enough.
No, I feel like I have to preak Brett. Yeah, he's pretty,
he's pretty fucking perfect. He's I love his style, he's nice,
he's like cool, he's yeah, he's got money. He's speaking the way
he handled her feeling stress as someone who in high school they called me stressly.
I don't know if you know that, but that is the truth,
not a joke. I'm a stressed out person and she expressed it and he
was just like I said all the right things. Yeah, he's like I
get it. And she's like, I'm tired, but she's not picking a
fight, but she's like I'm tired, which never stopped her from sleeping before.
Right in the pods, right right, But I just love them so
much because it's just even the way he just was like that got you,
I got it. We're good, and he just he didn't try to fix
it. He didn't try to. He just was like listened beautifully. And
I love her because and this is going to seem like a weird reason,
but she doesn't. Sometimes she looks really pretty, but she's not afraid to
just like be a normal person. She's stunning, yes, agreed, but
she's also just pretty because of that, like the inner beauty is also what
makes herself, but she's not afraid. Like there's a lot of scenes where
she's really not wearing any makeup, would you don't see that often. You
don't see women that are not afraid to just be like, yeah, women
don't wear makeup all the time. I love her so much. And then
just to skip ahead, just for a second, he surprises her with those
cute photos and I was just like, again, they're perfect. Nothing else
to say, nothing so adorable, nothing to say. Okay, So I
just wrote, Paul and Mike could do science stuff. I don't even know
what that means. Well, they made wedding rings together, which I was
like, this is this is worse than like shopping for dresses, Like I
couldn't There's no way I could care any less about them putting their rings in
a fire. Who as it? So color me mine? Yes? Oh
my god, no, yeah no, yeah. I was incredibly bored by
that. Okay, so then this is good Zach and Bliss meeting he's nervous
meeting her dad Shaw. Yeah, and I wrote, I miss Arena right
now. It's not because I don't like Bliss, but in this moment,
I was missing Arena just for a little drama, a little extra, want
a little extra. So so now I've seen this scene twice now, because
I saw the first time, I watched it, and then I rewatched it,
and you know, the first time I watched it, I was like,
wow, bliss, his dad is horrifying. He's so mean, he's
so bad. Yeah. Rewatching it, I was like, you know who
the real anti hero is? Is that? Zater No? The daughter with
the sunglasses. Yes, it's like, what are you doing? You know,
in the car, somebody had a conversation with her which was like,
no, don't wear those Marrod Cops sunglasses. It's not your this isn't your
show, this isn't about you. And she was like, I don't care.
I'm wearing them. Oh my god, I thought the same. I
wrote that Immediately I was like, what is going on? And why is
she wearing these sunglasses? And then I went very back and forth on the
dad because Zach was being so freaking annoying. Yeah, this conversation like and
another thing, and that's why I went into law and he's like, who
are you? How long have you guys known each other? Like twenty days
we've been dating twenty full days, yes, and nineteen nights and he just
couldn't. The dad just yes, the father was mean. He was mean.
I can see. I could see that he's a little emotionally abusive,
but he was pushed into being mean in his defense. And I'm telling you
what. Screening number one, I'm like, fuck this guy. He's horrible
porpulist. You know. Good for her standing up for herself. Watching it
again, I was like, this got some good points and I felt like
he was trying, like Zach does, start lecturing, you know, and
then and then the thing is they take people's licenses away, and you know,
then they can't get their license, and then they can't go to work.
He goes, listen, this is just like I'm passionate about this,
and all the dad said, it's like, yeah, I don't really have
an opinion about that, honestly, yeah, which I was like, okay,
me neither. Do we know what he does? Is the dad like
a cop or something? I mean, like he might be so far off,
like so different than Zach, Like what does he do? The dad?
I don't know, But the dad was trying to bond with him on
sports and Zach He's like, yeah, I got nothing I know, And
I mean, to be fair, it wasn't their fault, but it was,
like I wrote to Zach. I wrote to him as though he's seeing
this. I wrote, read the room. This guy is not interested.
You've gone on for so long about like, yeah, exactly if the guy
disagrees with you, Like if someone has a DUI, personally, I do
think they should take their license for a while. Maybe they take the bus
to work. I actually disagree with you, Zach. Why are you using
this platform for that? Right? He's very The thing about Zach, which
you'll see too in the reunion is and I loved Zach up until the reunion
and then I was like, oh, he's very no at all. He
is very, very very high on himself and his opinions, and he does
think, hey, I've been through a lot and I'm a great guy,
and okay, but you can relax and listen to other people a little bit.
So then they try to describe the show to the dad and they're totally
ignoring, like Yahisha or whatever, the step mom and the kids. They're
just they're just blocking them out. And they're like, okay, so do
you know what a pod is? And the dad's like, yeah, I
know what a pod is and they're like oh yeah. So they explain the
whole thing and the dad just goes Okay, you've known each other how long
now? And then they go twenty days. He goes, yeah, I'm
not trying to be mean, but good luck with that, which, in
his defense, is like, what else would you say you've known it?
You haven't even been known each other three weeks, I know. And then
that's the thing you saw by the way. I looked it up to see
what he did. Shaw whatever, and I'm it's too many things to get
through before, but it is reminding us that where he did try with Zach.
And then Zack's like, I'm not too scared old at sports, and
she I was like, sports is not it? And then as the conversation
continued, Zach opens up about his law career and went on a nervous rant.
This isn't like a write up about a Washington state law regarding suspended licenses.
Shaw had no interest. Yeah, but they're not even really putting him
down. They're just saying what we just said, which right. And then
there's this picture of Zach looking so he's got like his hand like you know
when someone's like stroking their chin, like they have so many important things to
say. He's doing in this picture. Well, so I think I feel
like they're both Bliss and Zach are both so amped up about convincing everybody that
they know what they're doing, and the poor dad he just goes and I'm
telling you, I hated him first time, so but I'm watching it and
I'm like, okay. The dad goes, look, you know I already
I tried talking to your sister out of her wedding, out of her marriage,
which clearly didn't work out. Remember, and he goes, she wanted
to marry a guy he worked for me, you know, until I fired
him or whatever, and they didn't want to let intelligence factor into this.
And then he goes, I mean, so obviously it didn't work out for
them, And he goes, I mean twenty days is insanity. And he
goes, I know you're happy, but like, don't let this this happiness
like cloud, you know, making good decisions. So Bliss goes, yeah,
So I'm like, she's a little spoiled. She goes, yeah,
well, you and mom got divorced, and I have no intention of that
happening. I want no part of that. And in the dad's defense,
he goes, I want the best for you, right, And then he's
like, I don't know him, and she's like, yeah, exactly,
you don't know anything about him. Let me tell you about Zach. He's
like the greatest guy you're ever going to meet in your entire life. And
his background, like he even reminds me of you. You guys have a
similar background, so like upbringing, so like you should like him. And
the dad is basically just being like, yeah, but I don't know him.
I mean I got that right away. I that was my feeling that
I kind of felt bad for Dad, but I also did feel bad for
Bliss because just her death spiration to get his approval. I mean, I
think it goes so much deeper than this show. I think in this case,
the dad's right. I mean, he just can't fake it. He's
just not that guy. He doesn't seem like the warmest guy. But she's
just like begging him to be nice to her. Right, he just won't
because he's pissed. He's probably really tired. They make him film so much
longer than what like we see it's hot, there's cameras. He hates it,
right, how did I get into this? He probably is like,
is this the Bachelor? At least he's like, no, it's a different
show on Netflix. It's not been around as long. No, right,
okay, so, oh my god. And then he says the dad goes,
we did you. I hope he didn't just say this because I was
just looking, but he I think. He goes, well, I mean,
I don't know what anything about Zach. I guess I think he's a
lawyer. Did y'all check? Yeah? Did you say that? Just no?
No, no, I was it was coming up. Yeah. He
goes, he's obviously intelligent, and he's a talker. He's a lawyer.
That's what he says. He is, did y'all? He goes, Jill
check kill do checks? I really kind of like him. I think we
got to get Shaw on the show. Yes, let's try. I don't
know how to do it. O, my god, let's make it happen.
I would love that could be like, really, are on your side?
We know they kind of are okay or whatever, but like we got
it, you got it? Yes, okay, we mean to you.
Okay, So Chelsea, we should probably move along because we got a lot.
Okay, episode eleven, okay, two days to the wedding. Yeah,
we're on Chelsea. Okay. So Chelsea's like she's all in her feelings.
She's like this last night, you told me I can't take your name,
like until your mom says it's okay, like that I take your name,
Like what the fuck is that? And then Kwami says, yeah,
but like my mom she raised me, and it'd be like weird, like
you know, like oh you raise me up. But like now you have
no say and like who I marry? Yeah, Kwame, that's kind of
how it works. Like you're a big boy now and you can decide who
you want to marry. She's wearing those crazy glasses though during that conversation glasses
come from. And also just I wrote down twenty Days of Babe, which
is what I think the name of this episode. Oh my god, I
love it because just so much, babe, Babe, Babe, listen to
me, babe, look at me, Babe. We've got more photoshoots.
Babe, Babe. I know you feel like marriage is just gonna be like
like tough and like laborious and like like like hard, bab But like,
Babe, I just want to see. I just want you to see like
that it's going to have good moments because then yeah, but the first year
is going to be like really hard, like the hardest ear And she goes,
what, Babe, how do you know about babe? Babe? We
don't know what the hardest year is gonna be, Babe. I felt at
that moment so much that he was just trying to set her up for like
a big no, but like, what do I know? So then,
yeah, the first year is gonna be really hard. She's like, yeah,
but how do you know that the second year is not going to be
worse? Like it could be like a lot worse, babe. Okay,
so then I have bliss. Then I go to Bliss and Zach in the
hot tub, which I was having, I wrote, They're either in a
pool or a really big hot tub, like an apartment building hot tub.
It seemed like there was like steam. Yeah, it was steam. I
used to live on King's Road in a studio apartment. Moved to LA and
I sometimes get in the hot tub. Was before I was like, would
be great. Now I'd be grossed out to get in the hot tub.
And at my apartment complex and uh, Puck from the real world also lived
there for some reasons and he was always in there and it was so gross
it just scabs, scabby. I'd be like, all right, I'm gonna
get out. I'm gonna sit in here with Puck. That's how they got
rid of his scabs. He's just like with me. Just so the little
little little name drop for you guys. I bet, I bet some of
our audiences so young they don't remember Puck from the real world. That was
second season or third season? Wasn't the second season? San Francisco? Was
that? San Francisco? Was that La? I don't know, I get
confused. New York was first, but yeah, it was. It was
early. It was with my guy that I ended up like kind of having
a crush on for a while, the one that married Pam, the doctor,
oh, the cartoonists. Yeah, I'm friends with him on Facebook,
but I can't remember his name. That's not norm. But I know you're
talking about Jay. Liked with him too, yes, yes, yes,
And the Norman friend. Oh well he I mean I married him. But
it doesn't like listen, it doesn't. God, you're such a one upper.
It's ridiculous. I mean, yeah, like the hell sad that Puck
is the thing. But also the guy that created the magazine Jugs also well,
yeah, and he didn't live in the building because obviously but he had.
He had not strippers like women, mistress and people that he set them
up in studio apartments in my complex. Oh god, you know what I'm
saying. So he did, and he asked me to shoot for jugs.
He asked if I wanted to see that totally see this. Thank you,
Carl, and I said no, thank you, sir, No thank he
I said, Now, looking back, do you feel like that was a
good decision or do you think it was a missed opportunity. One of the
only good decisions I've ever made was saying no jugs. I kind of thought
about it and asked, and I wish I did it, no, because
I thought about I was talking to a friend about it kind of recently,
and I was like, maybe that could have paid for grad school or something.
Now he goes, no, wouldn't it had been like two thousand dollars.
Well, you're not going to get that's two thousand dollars. I thought
you were going to say two hundred, and I was gonna say, Okay,
that's low. But now you're saying two thousand. You've turned me in
on this. I love that that I think when I think back, like
me, like just im posing for jugs is gonna get me like sixty thousand
dollars. I could have become the therapist. I always thought i'd be anyway.
All right, So Bliss is saying something that's annoying me. I wrote,
stop saying, I'm getting nervous about everything. I'm just so nervous about
everything. And then Zach goes, well, at some point we have to
take a leap of faith, and then Bliss says, okay, but that
worries me because like, you got engaged to somebody else and I thought you
were like committed to that person, which God bless Bliss for continuing to bring
that up. But at this point you do have to kind of move on.
You either to believe him or not or move on. You're right,
I have been Bliss, and I completely understand saying she's coming from. But
at the same time, yeah, you're right. It's like, all right,
well we're real close and I'm in so right, so I'm committed to
you. I'm not questioning that. I'm not looking at anyone else. And
she's like, no, I'm not worried you're looking at somebody else. And
it goes the being okay, but if I make a commitment to you,
like I won't break that commitment. And she's like, but I don't want
you to stay with me just because you made a commitment. And he's like,
I don't know what else to say to that. Well, what he
should have said is not yes to Irena. You should not have picked Irene
in the first place, and then she wouldn't have this problem. But whatever,
okay, Tiffin? Then yeah, And then I just wrote it doesn't
I wrote the Brett's family is perfect and friends because of course, Right and
the dad are insanely delightful. I wrote delightful. Oh my god, there's
no other word. Delightful, happy, kind, interested, interesting, Yes,
all the things like, I just love. I've never loved a couple
like this. I don't think I've ever loved a man in my life the
way I love those two people together. Aside from my dad, I know
that I don't ate yeah, brothers so supportive. The dad's just like such
like a simple kind of like he's like, well, tell me about your
upbringing, and she's like, when I wasn't rich, And he's like,
you know, but my parents bubble he's like, oh, I can't wait
to meet your parents like that. Yeah, just all good things and even
when and I was it Brett, I think it was yeah Brett saying yeah,
we weren't the most huggy family. He's like, no, we weren't,
kid, but it was still love. Like they're not he's not trying
to rewrite history, like yeah, adorable. Okay, Mica and Paul Mica
there. Okay, So this scene, Paul's packing up his stuff because he's
going to leave the apartment and not see her again until the wedding. But
it's like, I think this is the day of the afternoon of their bachelor
and Bachelor at parties. Okay, So he's just gathering his stuff and she
This is a I really want to know what you think about this, because
it feels to me that it feels like a sweet scene. She It feels
to me that she's just like playing with him and like kind of making fun
of him, but in a fun way. Like she holds up his shirt,
the green shirt, and she's like, oh, here's that shirt,
and then she holds up a blue tank top and she's she's like, my
other least favorite shirt of yours. And he goes my tank top and then
she says, yeah, like it's kind of funny that you have like one
like that we can say like, oh your tank top, like your one
tank top and then you're one green shirt. Like you can tell that this
guy just doesn't really know how to dress. Yeah, I actually thought she
was. I wrote she's cutely nagging and I underlined cutely right, and then
I said, there's something very cute, like I know is she was What
she's saying, she's trying to make like she thinks he's very funny, and
the thing is he's really not right, it's really not and she wants that
connection. So she's trying to be like, look at us. We have
these little games, right, but he's not really playing again, No,
he doesn't even understand what's happening. No, he doesn't, and his like
brain is just shut down. I don't know. But but then he says
he's saying stuff like uh, you know, like we can't even go like
fifteen minutes without saying like I miss you. Yeah, he's given her some
mixed signals there, totally mixed signals. He's like, you know, we
just like constantly like oh, if I'm like away from her just for a
few minutes, I'm like, oh, I kind of miss her, and
you know I'm gonna be gone like for the night, but I know we'll
be like texting constantly, and I know I'm gonna miss her. Dude,
what the fuck? Yeah? That was super weird. So then they go
to their their bachelor Bachelor atte parties. Chelsea is extra and she's bugging me.
She she keeps clap. I don't like when people bad girls, bad
girls club clap at me, like bum bum bum. And so she's talking
about she goes, I own who I am. It's like, girl,
I get it, I get it. I'm extra and I like it up
about myself. Yeah, and I'm gonna be a stripper and I'll slap my
own ass and I'll do because this is who I am. So yes,
Oh that's right, she's doing all that. Oh my, that was so
embarrassing. Yeah. Then we flipped to the guys and I forgot that Zach's
mom had been a stripper, and I literally, oops, that's probably not
great for him. He handled it well, he did, but I was
like, what the why is the show doing that? Are they just so
locked. It was, first of all, such a hack scene. The
camera closes in immediately on a huge plate of wings, and it's like,
come on, hey, women also like wings, but why is that just
like why are guys? Why is it like? Oh, men are simple?
They just like, wait, they like to stuff their face with like
chicken wings at their bachelor party, Like they're just gonna get sick on chicken
wings and watch a burlesque dancer. Yeah, and then Zach's like, yeah,
that's just not really my thing. I mean, my mom was a
stripper. I get it. It's but it's like I don't want to be
seeing that. How come they didn't ask him ahead of time? Yeah that
would have been nice or even have more that's more interesting to us. We
don't watch the show to have like our like some weird stereotype thing, right,
oh burlesque. And then and then Chelsea's still clap. It goes back
to Chells and she's like, our love is like a slow dance. Stop
saying words, but just and then but then, but then Kwamie's like showing
doubt when he's talking. He's like, I don't know, I don't know,
I don't know. My mom's not coming to the wedding. I don't
know if I want to live in Seattle. Seattle's over price. You're over
priced, he says. Seattle. I like you, but and you're like
the lamar Odom. You're like lamar Odom with Michael Jordan Prices. I thought
it was being really funny, and he's not wrong. I like Seattle,
but he's He's also saying I'm getting lost in all this. My voice is
lost, like yes, no compromise has been and he doesn't have the family
support at this point, right, So okay. So then Zach, he's
talking to his buddies and he's like, you, guys, first of all,
the signs are all there, because hold on listen to this. Like
there's this song called I Hope You Dance. That is like my very favorite
song. And I told her and she was like, oh my god,
that's my song for my wedding, like I Hope You Dance. And the
guys are like, oh yeah, that's that's kind of a that's random,
like who would think that you would both? Who would think anybody would like
the sun whatever like that, I Hope you dance. And then he says,
also, she told me that an owl would bring her peace. And
I was like, Brara, owls are like my favorite animal, but also
I'm wearing a tie bar with an owl right now. And then I just
wrote in all caps and then you propose to Tyrena. What I wrote in
all caps is what are you Napoleon dynamite? Because that sounds like something Napoleon
dynamite. Remember, he was very interested in my favorite It's like, it's
only my favorite animal, like to lion and a tiger put together, so
a favorite that's It's like, dude, you're a lawyer. Can you imagine
like you get a du let's say, okay, some terrible thing you need
a lawyer, right, and then you get Zach and he's like okay,
and he comes He's like, look a couple things know about me. I've
been practicing law for one year. That doesn't feel very long. But okay,
what else? Owls are my favorite animal? Right? That's really important?
And I hope you Dance is my favorite song and it will kind of
get me going in the courtroom, right right. I love that though You're
like, look, all the signs were there, every possible thing that I
proposed this other girl for a while and then only ended things because she did
right, even though all the signs were there. All right. So now
Tiffany is talking to her friends and this I just wrote. She has a
really drunk friend. Yeah, She's like, but did you notice her eyes
wouldn't open the whole time? She has her eyes like shut. And she's
like, my only reservation is because it's been a blissful because you haven't had
any conflict. And I hope when you have some conflict, do you do
how to manage the conflict? I know, I think like Bill Cosby there,
but you know how otherwise otherwise She's like, I love him and he
loves her, and shut up. So now Paul is talking about cousin and
he's like, well, the data points at the home of the call and
the Excel spreadsheet. I've clucked it all the data and I'd be taking on
a huge amount of risk and the like you're just really analytical. You need
to just feel it, okay. But then Mica is so drunk. Yeah,
like I got a FaceTime pa with Shelby, right, Shelby's there,
yes, there she faced time. She's like, do you love me a
crazy bitch? Do you love me a crazy. I think that might have
been if we're getting ahead, that was the moment. Had you been right,
he probably just couldn't handle the friends and like who she was around those
friends? Maybe FaceTime too, and she's like, we're shyampier bachelor party bitch.
So he hangs up, and then Shelby's like, oh fuck no,
he fucking he hung up and they're all so drunk, and then uh,
then she she's like, he's a great guy, whatever, but you deserve
everything in the world. This ain't it. Then Mica is like, you
fucking I spent twenty hours aday talking to this guy. Is he right for
me at this moment? Yes? And I need you to support And then
MICA's looking at the camera and she's like, everybody underestimate is Paul. He's
so smart, ain't cute? An epic? Is epic and so good And
I've been apart from him for forty five seconds. M I'm gonna text him
right now. And then it like the text bubble goes green and you're like,
I think you've blocked me, but I know, like and at that
point, yeah, I think that's what I read. Paul was on defense
And then now he's he's gotta be running, gotta be running, gotta be
Maybe she was like talking to production and she's like, uh, can you
just please tell me the location? I need a location scout. Who's got
eyes on? Paul? Yeah, I was a stepping in from makeup and
they're like, listen, you can't do you can't call stepping in for your
own makeup, which, by the way, she never takes off ever.
Stuff. Hanne, who are you stepping in for? You're the one being
filmed makeup persian. I got my kit. Let me talk to Paul just
for one kind o makeup, because if I'm honest, I'm always honest.
I know I make up all right? Oh my god, right, enough
of that. Okay, this wedding day Chelsea and kwam I just wanted to
know. I just need to admit something to you. I fast forwarded through
a lot, right, Yeah, because we have a lot to go to
and we've we've already gone like seven hours. Yeah, I think, um
so a lot to fast forward through. Yes, I did too, because,
oh my god, it was so exhausting. Just friends come in,
then Chelsea's friends come in, and then I do have some stuff about Kwamie's
sister Barbara comes in and she's an angel straight from heaven for a couple of
reasons. One because um, Chelsea is like, everyone must wear pink,
even if you're not in the bridal party. And she's like, bitch,
no, she didn't say it, but she just wore a very bright orange
and I think that was I think that was on purpose, and I like
it. Right. Yeah. She comes in. She's fun, right,
super fun, and she's like, listen, like enough with the mom's stuff,
Like I get it, Mom's your best friend. Blah blah blah.
She's like, but basically I raised you like I raised you. And he's
like, yeah, but Mom's my best friend. And she's like, okay,
enough, listen. You know you'll one day you'll bring Chelsea home with
you and like mama love her. You know, yeah, I'll be there
for you. And but like, by the way, there's no turning back
now, Like I didn't come all the way here. I don't have time
for this. And Stephanie, I think what you don't understand is he just
wants a bit. I think that's what you're missing. And maybe his sister
was missing and Chelsea's being so extra two she's like, my friends love me
and they're here because they support me. It's like, no, they're here
because they want to be on a TV show. They probably don't even know
you that well, no, they probably don't. They're probably like were there
for like they probably were other people that auditioned for the show. M oh.
By the way, I don't know if I just skipped through this in
my notes here, but I think I've told you this before. But Kwami
is ridiculous. Ridiculous because Kwami try to get on the show. He auditioned
several times to be unmarried at first sight. There's my god, he did
not know this, yes, which is worse okay, because they get married
right off the bat. So this whole bs about, like, yeah,
I don't know if I could feel comfortable going through with the wedding without my
mom's approval. He was going to do it when you get married on the
first day, Okay. One of two things could be true. One is
he really just wanted to meet a wife and like swiping wasn't working and he
just thought he needed a little extra push for real, Okay, for to
like this, this person really wants he's going through with all this because there's
something he's going to plug. There's some business he's getting off the right,
you know that like it's got or maybe a little bit of both. I
don't know. I don't know, but that was. That's where I will
say one very nice moment to skip ahead, when Chelsea kind of hasing doubt
she meets the sister, you know, when they had that moment when Chelsea
turned me around on her, When she has the moment with the sister where
they're both like crying. Yeah, I thought that was such a sweet moment.
And I believe her. I believe that Chelsea is in love with Kwami.
I will give her that. Yeah, And I like that. And
so at least she choose as well for the most part. And I don't
know what Kwami gets. I mean, Chelsea's not terrible, she's smart,
she's a lot of great things, but she's just a lot. I don't
think that Kwami is scared of losing her at all, which is a good
thing and a bad thing. But when they get up on stage, I
just skip to this. They're reading their vows to that and she write,
she reads these vows, these beautiful vows that she wrote about him. And
when it's his turn. He's like, listen, I didn't like write down
like words or whatever, like I'm just gonna, like, you know,
I'm just gonna flow. And he's pretty well, he fled pretty well,
it did, but it was kind of basic. He's like, yeah,
I didn't write anything down because, like you know, I can just always
just communicate like what I feel. So basically, you're super captivating and you
have a nice shell. And yes, and meanwhile, she learned his full
name. He has like seventeen names. He's like, I'm sitting here learning
your full name and you're like, not gonna write even anything. That's what
I'm saying. He's like, it's all good, Like she's gonna say yes,
and then it's a cliffhanger, but we do know that he says yes,
yes, okay. So but they lead you into that the very beginning
of A twelve, which we will talk about next week. Yes, they
do say I do, which was shocking to me. But I'm happy for
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