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Steve Bravera and Jacin Sales. They
have their eye on the ball on Tucson

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Sports Station. Yet Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. Hey, welcome back to I

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the Ball here a Fox Sports fourteen
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Now we have Adam with breaking news, his eye on the ball, breaking

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news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Look at that. He already got that

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part right, So far, so
good. All right, Adam, what

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do you got? So? The
first thing I saw was the Cats set

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the school record. They took second
place in the two hundred medley relay swimming

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swim men men or women men men? All right, this was a school

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records at eight hundred freestyle relay in
which all the teams got a chance to

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be on the podium spot. And
since twenty thirteen, uh, eleven years

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later, the wow, that's a
big deal, given that the men's team

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or all the swimming teams have been
pretty I mean they've over they have had

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world record holders over the year.
So yeah, that's that's a cool one.

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It is Delaney Schnell still, she's
she's just getting ready. Okay,

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the diver all right, yeah,
okay, Next what I saw U of

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A obviously beat Washington last night,
and women's they take on USC. Who's

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next in the fact twelve tournament?
Just kind of sing your thoughts on what

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you guys think. Well, you
know, you'd like to think that they

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played him so well the other night, but they're not going to sneak up

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on USC, like maybe they might
have last week. Right, sure,

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No, if anything, USC is
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You could have seventy Yeah, yeah, you know, but who knows?

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You know, who knows what a
little momentum does for you? Steve the

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ask you, Well, I don't
because we'll laughing joke about this old Okay,

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good luck with that moment. There
was an article who are the top

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fifty players and packed twelve women's basketball
history? Arizona had two members. Oh

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okay, number nineteen was I think
it was number twenty one. We had

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Ari McDonald yep, Arry McDonald yep. I got yelled at for calling her

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Ari yes, yes, and then
fifteen Barnes idea Barnes. Barnes is number

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fifteen on the list. So yeah, that's pretty respectable. I thought when

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I was reading it yesterday the day
before, I'm thinking that Arry might be

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higher, But then you read the
list was higher than who? Right?

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Who You're gonna put her ahead of? Right? Who? You say?

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I haven't seen? Who was number
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Shan Miller, Lisa Leslie, yes, yes, yes, yes,

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and then Cheryl Miller. Cheryl Miller
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Maybe it's because it's packed twelve may
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but now, but Cheryl Miller played
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were so many players I can't remember
who was on the number two list I

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had on this list? Uh Kent's
pronounce her name the kiak? Oh yeah

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yeah she does. I think she
one that does the ESPN stuff. Okay,

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this is this is packed twelve history, that's why. And and Cheryl

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Miller was was pre packed. It
was still packed ten. Yes, so

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this is so this is just since
No, that's not true because Lisa Leslie

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was prepacked. Yeah, so Cheryl
Miller not on there. She might be

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later on. Tina Thompson. It's
pretty nine escu. I thought I saw

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her name. No, no,
no, no, who did this list?

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Yeah? Come on? Man?
Actually the ESPN W list, So

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uh, we'll have to go look
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the girl from Stanford, and then
Kelsey Plumb obviously the score and chan

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oh here it is here, it
is here, it is here. It

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is the pack the Uh she she
played before uh, the NC double A

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started doing women's sports. It was
it was the year after shiel Miller was

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done. So it's only considered,
you know, Uh, the nineteen eighty

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six eighty seven academic year. The
it wasn't a it wasn't a pack.

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The PAC twelve women's basketball was not
a PAC twelve or PACK ten oh Okay

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league. It was a it was
a like a West Coast Conference league or

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something like that. So shiel Miller, that's why she is not on the

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list. Neither is Anne Meyers,
neither Cynthia Cooper. It was the Western

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Collegiate Athletic Association. Uh, and
then it became the Pack West and its

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finally year and then it joined the
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gone. So that's why she's not
on the list. Another news, college

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basketball, Indiana's retaining Mike Woodson's despite
their poor season. Good luck with that.

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He's not a good coach, you
know, and say he got ripped

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for saying something about a style of
basketball, just kind of sticking to a

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style of basketball. Yeah, like
last week or last week, and the

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people are saying he should be fired
just for saying that. Yeah, he's

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not a good night. I couldn't
tell you what it was, but it

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was clear, you know, just
a kind of a plodding, you know,

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stiff kind of yeah, those dud
system that nobody wants to play anymore.

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And then he's he still believes that's
the way you win games. People

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saying just for that alone, he
should be fired. Well didn't didn't The

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guy that there was only had four
years ago the same thing. Yeah a

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little bit. Yeah, but he
but he but he remade himself. So

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yes, yeah, well you know
what the bio was for him? Twelve

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million for them, that's probably nothing. You know, I wouldn't. I

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wouldn't guess that Indiana has a ton
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great for basketball though they they live
and breathe. When I told you that

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they played Arizona in the Vegas Member
last year, and I told you their

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blue blood was blue blood because five
minutes to explain everything in Arizona went through

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like twin seconds. The feudal final
force. But but I'm sure they have

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people, but twelve million, and
guess what, who are you gonna get?

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They just fired Archie Millery before this
guy. They did, they did,

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they did other college news. College
football's early signing period it has moved

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up three weeks, uh will now
previously from mid December. Now it's going

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to be preceding conference championship games starting
this year. That's probably to avoid something

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or to to make something happen because
of all the moves. And then you

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need to know who's coming, who's
going. Yeah, yeah, I think

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because so many teams end their seasons, you know, before the conference championship

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games, they want to know who's
leaving, who's staying, all that kind

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of stuff. Yeah. I think
there's a movement though to get ri of

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the early signing period altogether and just
have it go back to the signing period

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in February. But who knows with
all the all the stuff that they're talking

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about. You know what I was, I was listening to a podcast today

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talking about it. You know,
if if if athletes are going to be

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employees, particularly football are going to
be employees, to have a draft and

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get rid of recruiting draft by conference. So you say, let's say you're

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a football player, you're like a
great football player, and you say,

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okay, I'm going to put my
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I'm gonna put my name into the
draft for I don't I can't imagine it

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would work, because then how do
you tell a kid who's smart enough to

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go to Stanford, well, you
didn't get drafted by Stanford, You're going

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to you know, Tennessee State or
whatever. Right, I can't see how

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that would ever. They ignowed,
They said, look, this is just

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a conversation that acknowledged this could probably
never ever happen. Plus the conferences would

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have to come together to decide how
to do that. But it was fun.

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It was just an interesting conversation things
that will never happen. Yeah,

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but it was just a conversation of
but this is the extent to what people

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are thinking about in terms of what's
going to happen to to the to athletics.

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Just you know what, to break
out football and be done with it.

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That's what Eventually, that's what's going
to break it out, do what

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however you want, and and let
it fund the other you know, the

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other programs in your in your university
and go back to where you were with

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the other programs, or maybe football
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don't know. One thing that worries
me is what they're gonna do to the

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NCAA tournament with all this stuff.
You know, they want to add another

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you know, they want to add
another another thirty two teams. That too,

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is basically another weekend of games.
So now it's it becomes a four

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week tournament and everybody and their brother
gets in this total the total money grab.

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That's all it's about. It.
It's not about anything else. It's

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certainly not about making the tournament better, because it doesn't make it better.

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It's it's good. Just it's great, just the way it is, all

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right. In a couple of NBA
news, Karl Anthony Towns of the Minnesota

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Timberwolves. They are the league leading
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meniscus, so we don't know how
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That's a big blow Introjectionally, that
reminds me of the of the of your

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adding the teams another thirty two teams
to the men's basketball tournament. It's like

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addie, you have a bad marriage. Let's have another kid. Uh,

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let's have another kid. It will
be great. We'll become more, we'll

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be to each other. I can't
use that example because I thought we were

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done it too, and then we
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to if you don't say I don't
say anything. I love heard it dead,

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but you I know what you're saying. Hey, we've got ten kids,

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let's have one more. I'm Philip
Rivers. Yeah, okay, all

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right. And then lastly, Ben
Simmons reportedly out. Yeah. Ben Simmons

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reportedly out for the season. Once
again. I'm shocked. I just fell

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off my chair and I'm shocked.
Pick me up. Was he even playing

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this year? He was sporadically playing
a lot of games. He'd play one,

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miss a few. How much How
cool of a job would you would

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you have if you played sometimes and
sometimes mostly not for five or six years

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like he's done. And when you
played, you suck. I mean maybe

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not suck, but you know you're
not that good. He had a very

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promising starts his career too, And
it's just kind of crazy how that's kind

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of three money kind of I guess
they still pay him right, yeah,

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yeah, oh yeah, he's still
making a bunch of money, you know,

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in the trade and he's still getting
all that money. You would never

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never Jay, I know you,
if you was available to you to play,

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you would never get him on your
team. Absolutely, you know,

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big draft, I'd be a I
wouldn't be afraid to shoot god. It's

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it's crazy that but you know that. That's you know, that's what it

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is. You know what are they? I mean, they're still paying Bobby

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Bonia to not play? Right?
Well, you saw tell me explain to

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me the Denver quarterback Russell they've lost
eighty are they paying them eighty four eight

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five million and dead cap? So
they kind of have to yeah, pay

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that or they can't. They don't
have that allotment to pay on the guys,

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right, So look at that.
How much money you must you be

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making if you own a franchise and
eighty four million? Okay, we won't

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worry about me. Let me go
check the seat the seatback seat of my

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car. That's the equivalent of the
eighty four million to them. Yeah yeah,

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well, how they not sign them
to the two year contract extension?

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You'd be afraid agent? Probably this
year. Yeah, so tough tough break

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for them. Who says there's no
money in this world. It's all over

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the place. You just don't have
any of it, right, any of

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it? Okay? Anything else?
Know that? That was it for good?

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All right? Nice job, very
good, very good. Oh I

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thought you had the the Jake Paul. Oh yeah, Jake Paul is reportedly

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going to fight Mike Tyson. So
that has that may said? Any about

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how much money these guys are getting
for that or anything like that. I'm

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uh not that I saw, but
I mean, if Mike Tyson's gonna fight,

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it's gotta be okay, how much
would they have to pay? You,

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Steve to take a punch in the
face for Mike Tyson, or take

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a bunch of punches in the face
for I couldn't. I wouldn't do it.

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I couldn't do it. I couldn't
do it. He's fifty seven millions.

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You can take him. You run
it around the ring, you know

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what. I you know what,
I take my punch and go down and

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be done with it and hope that
I live to tell about it. Yeah,

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plea to tell about it, because
you know I love that that scene

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in the movie the hangover when he
punches the he punches the what's his name,

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uh, Doug Black guys and drops
him right there and they're like he

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took a punch from Mike ty said, I mean that's cool, but I

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can't even imagine. Yeah, that'd
be it'd be fun with gloves. I

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would put my money on. I
feel like you would kill me. Oh

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yeah, you would be like I
would get killed or would have a good

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chance of getting killed. So I
don't know anyway that that's an interesting When

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When is that fight? July July? Just sometimes in July we nowhere,

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no Vegas. I'm assuming no,
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on Netflix. That's right, twentieth
at Dallas at AT and T Stadium in

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the stadium. Yeah, in the
stadium. Party so out, yeah you

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think so oh yeah, people go
yeah, oh yeah, that's how crazy

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it would be. Come on,
Jake Paul. Here's a here's a quote

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by I guess uh one of the
organizers, Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson is

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a once in a lifetime dream matchup
and I anticipated it will be the most

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watched boxing event in modern boxing history. Who said that I wouldn't doubt that.

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Uh, come on, and watching
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is the event of a box.
I would say yes because they're both polarizing

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and and he probably want Mike Teston
to kick the crap out of the Jake

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Paul Kind Uh, I would have
show. Yeah, and Mike Tyson they

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still he still beloved. Have you
do you watch his podcast? We listen

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to that stuff. No, it's
it's very good. I'm like, I

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don't dislike Mike Tyson, but I
feel like if I watched I would get

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dumber. Right, But he's very
insightful, very I've watched a few things

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and he's very He's not the Mike
Texon we know or you Yeah, No,

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I know that, and I've seen
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not gonna watch his podcast. He's
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but he is. Uh, but
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Okay, he didn't say that,
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Okay, let's take our breaker and
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of the first Arizona team that beat
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Stag yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming
live im the iHeartRadio wapp Hey, welcome

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back to winding the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,

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He's Jacobs Awes and I on the
vote. We have a former U

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of A basketball star, Joe Nels. Joe How are you doing great?

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Doing great? How are you guys? We're doing well. It's been a

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while since we've spoken to you on
the show. Good to have you on

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there. We wanted a wax poetic
and think back to the time when the

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Pack eight was ten and you were
a part of that. How was it

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back then? Well, my first
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and then we moved to the PAC
twelve and it was tailgate stickers said,

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back to casts, whack the pack. I remember that. Unfortunately the pack

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is no longer going to be and
it's kind of sad after one hundred years,

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but uh yeah, it was quite
the experience though, going to UCLA,

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especially with John Wood and the great
coach there ten national championships, seven

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in a row, eighty eight games
in a row. Never never going to

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see those numbers again. Now now
the decision and the vote to for Arizona

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to go into the pack? What
was the pack eight became the Pack ten?

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Was before you got here? Did
you know that? Did you have

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a it was that part of the
reason why you came here at all?

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Or were you thinking about that at
all? No, not at all.

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I remember watching Arizona play Ucla.
My senior year in high school. I

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could only dream about playing against the
UCLA and being on a great team like

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Arizona. So no I had I
had absolutely no bearing and it wasn't even

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on the table then. Yeah,
but you were, you know, I

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think you can probably hold you hold
a car to somebody who beat was the

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first Arizona team to beat Ucla?
Yeah, that was at home. It

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was pretty intimidating going to Paul.
I can tell you that first time my

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sophomore year. That was right before
we went into the PAC twelve and kind

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of had an exhibition game and seeing
all the national championship banners and then John

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Wooden and Coach Snowden were talking on
the sidelines watching this practice. It was

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all kind of a blur before you
actually went in there to be in the

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PAC ten at the time. And
I asked this subject because I wasn't here.

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I didn't if you're at the time, did did people? Maybe the

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general public says, what are we
doing? We're going to get butt kicked?

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And how did the athletes feel about
that? I think that speaking for

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myself and the guys on our team, it was it was kind of a

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step up. We thought in competition, you see, everybody had heard of

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UCLA and USC and play better.
Competition will only make you better. So

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I think all the athletes look at
it, looked at is a very positive

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step. Yeah. So think of
going back to that first first home game.

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Did you did you play them at
their place before that or was that

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the first time the league? I
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And then we played him at home. We had a back to back Thursday

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Saturday and we beat UCLA. I
think they were number two in the country.

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And then we played USC It was
number seven or eight at the time,

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and we beat them also. So
that was probably the highlight of my

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college basketball career right there. So
thinking back to that game and they're coming

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to your place, you know,
do you recall anything in the locker room,

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anything about the team, that week
of practice, anything like that about

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that kind of led you to believe, Hey, you know, we got

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a really good shot of beating these
guys, or we're going to beat these

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guys, or let's beat these guys. What was the approach, Well,

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you always have a positive mindset.
Night, we had a really good week

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of practice and we really felt like
we could beat them. We felt very

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confident, even though I think the
week before we got blown out by Oregon,

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so it was kind of unexpected.
No one expected except all the guys

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on the team. We had a
lot of positive vibes, and once we

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led, we almost gave it away
at the end of the game. If

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I remember that my memory serves me
right, we were trying to stall.

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Coach Snowden liked to stall, and
we turned the ball over. But fortunately

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John Smith hit a free throw and
Keiky Vanderway almost made a last second shot

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over John Pelgrade. But we won
by one. So that was That was

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definitely a fun time. So let
me let me tell you how accurate you

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were. So the week before you
lost or State at Oregon State one sixteen

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to eighty. Come, thank you, Steve. I'm just putting out,

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well, you bet. Oregon State
also was in the top ten at the

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time with five NBA players on the
rocks. I'm just putting out because you

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were close. You were. Then
you beat UCLA by one, and obviously

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and then USC the Spaghetti game,
and then you you guys are living off

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that. You go to SU when
you get beat Oh, I don't remember

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losing the issue. But thank you
for being back on very bad memory.

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But also I have to say my
first game I ever played at Arizona I

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got to play my sophomore year and
they hit a game winner at Arizona State.

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Well, he who was the game
with your shot? No? I

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was saying in the in the u
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the shot or a shot that tied
the game before John John Smith made his

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freaquent. Yeah, you hit a
shot from that that was a blur.

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I don't until I read the article, I don't remember that. But it

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was a baseline less less baseline jumper
to tie the game, I think at

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seven. Yeah. And then and
then you beat defensive stop on him,

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and then they filed Smith. He
made the first or missed the second.

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And then I remember Bella brading falling
down. I'm like, oh god,

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we're gonna lose on a fall down
and Kiki Vanderway missed the shot. I

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remember that. There you go.
So let me ask you the question of

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the day that I won't you know, did you remember seeing a small short

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Mexican running rushing the court? Were
you I didn't think you were born yet.

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That would be that would have been
me. I rushed the court at

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that game. I don't know if
I hugged you or hugged Larry Demic or

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jumped on you or anything like that. But I was a student because I

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was a year behind you. And
if you recall, the student section were

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in bleachers around three sides of the
court, and the shot that you hit

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was right in front of me,
and uh, and I remember, well,

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it's it's I can't remember stuff that
far back. I couldn't. I

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can't remember what I had for lunch
this today. But and my my buddy

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and I who were both you know
there, we were on the court.

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We rushed the court and I would
think we would like gone up and patted

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you on the back or something like
that. I don't know. Yeah,

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we we reveled in it. We
stayed on the court for a while.

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But people asked me how many people
actually went to spaghetti factory and redeemed the

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coupon. So I'd have to ask
you, Jay, did you get your

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free piece of spaghetti and pizza?
And in fact, we were talking about

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that because they did that. The
spaghetti company did that a couple of times

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and ended up ended up going bankrupt
largely over that because remember they never thought

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we could beat the top ten ranked
teams in the country, and we beat

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them both right and the the you
know, the arena held a thousand more

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than it holds now. It held
over fifteen thousand back there because there were

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a bunch of bleachers around the floor
and so it had it had a higher

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attendance. But oh yeah, and
I went around collecting them. You know,

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people were dropped, he had dropped
them and stuff like that. I

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went around and picked him up.
I was in college, man, I

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was. I get many of those
as I remember that. That was those

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fun times. That was definitely one
of the highlights of my college career.

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Do you remember how many times there
was a court storming in your career?

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And I asked for reasons A few
in my career. I mean, when

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we beat a su at Asu obviously
there were enough you of A fans there,

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so that was a no. But
U c L a USC those were

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the only two memorable ones. I
don't think we really had any others in

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my career that I that I can
remember. The reason I asked is because

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it's it's it's topical news. Now
given the situation with did you feel back

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then? Can you remember it was
all positive because it was friendly fans,

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right, I guess it was everything
to be okay. But if you were

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on some other court where it would
have been tough. But I guess you

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know you had d J patting you
on the back. Yeah, Jay,

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And you know, we felt it
was at home. So I never experienced

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getting the court storm because we weren't
that good in my day, so when

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people beat us, it was expected
on the road, so we never had

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any wild celebrations. If Oregon State
beat us or you know, ASU,

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it really didn't matter. But I
yeah, it's getting out of hand now

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with these students, so they very
aggressive and hurting players and just I don't

409
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.559
know what will happen, but something
bad probably going to happen, and then

410
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.559
they'll stop the storming of the courts. Yeah. So, Joe, So

411
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.160
you know your basketball career ended,
you became a fan. I'm assuming I

412
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.359
know you did radio for a long
time and stuff like that. But as

413
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:36.440
a fan and what's happened, you
talked about it. You know it's sad,

414
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.960
but growing up, I mean you
grew up, you know, watching

415
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the Pac ten in the in the
in the PAC twelve and now it's going

416
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.000
to be gone. I mean,
what what's going through your mind on that

417
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:51.519
right now? Pretty sad to tell
you the truth. I played basketball because

418
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:53.559
I love the game. And now
I hear what these college kids are getting

419
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:59.319
paid with nil money, and it's
just astronomical. You know, three million,

420
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.119
five million, and if you're not, if you're a great high school

421
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.000
player, you can make two three
four million. If you're Lebron james Son.

422
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:10.559
You know, BRONI made a couple
of million a year when he was

423
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.960
in high school. Still, so
it's it's definitely changed. And people say,

424
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.279
well, don't you think you should
be paid to play college sports?

425
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.119
I said, we had a free
education, free room and board. That's

426
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:23.519
worth quarter of a million dollars right
there. That is that is getting paid

427
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.559
in a roundabout way. So I
don't know when it'll change. But all

428
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.720
the when I played, they didn't
have all the cable networks, and I

429
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:37.440
think that's what changed the sport and
so much money flying around. I don't

430
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.359
know. It's it's sad to see
one hundred years of the PAC eight,

431
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.519
PAC ten, PAC twelve just evaporate, right, So we ask guys now

432
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:52.079
who played the game at your level. I'm sure you watch you watch this

433
00:29:52.240 --> 00:30:00.839
basketball still, how do you watch
it painfully? It's you know, back

434
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.119
in the day, you weren't allowed
to carry the ball. Now, the

435
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:08.559
way these guys reverse dribbles and hesitation
dribbles, that's that's a definite violation.

436
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:15.160
And the game now is morphed into
basically a pick and roll game. Some

437
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.319
games, like watching the last Arizona
home game, it was like the opposing

438
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.440
team was just not moving the ball, just standing and it was easy to

439
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:27.039
guard. And it's just it's changed
a lot. I missed the game where

440
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:32.599
you pass and cut and everybody touches
the ball, and it's just I think

441
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:36.319
it's a thing of the past.
Yeah you do, you do you not

442
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.000
like the game the way it is. I like the game up and down.

443
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:42.920
I like the way Tommy Lloyd coaches
kind of freedom. But that can

444
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:45.839
also come back and bite you if
you're not having a good game, and

445
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.920
guys kind of get scatterbrained at times, as we all do. Playing.

446
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.039
You got to take a time out
and kind of calm the troops, and

447
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:59.119
sometimes I can come back and haunt
you. I think this year we've played

448
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.119
down to our competition at times.
So people ask me, how do you

449
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:04.200
think we're do in the tournament?
I said, we can win it all

450
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.920
or we can flame out in the
first round. It just depends what team

451
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:15.559
shows up well. Your thoughts are
consistent like mine, because no when everyone

452
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:17.799
when they played well, you say
this is the team that could win it

453
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.880
all, and this is well.
Conversely, it's the opposite, because if

454
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.039
they don't show up, they don't
play well. You being a shooter,

455
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:27.759
being a shooter, and you've seen
some shooters back in the seventies with Heurm

456
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:36.640
Harrison and Cony Norman. Where would
you put Caleb Love. I've never really

457
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:40.839
considered him a shooter. He's a
scorer, but I mean, I don't

458
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:45.400
think he's a great shooter by any
means. He's a great scorer. He's

459
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.599
got a tremendous amount of talent.
He's not afraid to ever pull the trigger,

460
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.960
so he's fearless, and he likes
to be in the position of needing

461
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.160
to score and wanting to score the
ball. So my hat's off him.

462
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:02.079
For those pressure situations, he seems
to thrive and those presser pressure situations interesting.

463
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.359
Yeah, I mean I know he's
not the classic. You know,

464
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:15.200
he's not the Selim start of Steve
Kurse shooter shooter. He's a slasher driver,

465
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.480
dunks the ball. I mean,
I wouldn't consider him a great shooter,

466
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:23.119
interesting, but good enough to get
them far. Oh. Absolutely,

467
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.559
I mean I think that. I
think he's one of the keys. But

468
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.880
I think Boswell at the point,
and even people forget about Pella Larson,

469
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.599
and he plays really well. Cats
typically play real well. But I think

470
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.640
the real key is defensively, when
they really get after you defensively and play

471
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:42.720
good defense. They're they're tough to
be. They can score the ball,

472
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.960
but sometimes they don't play defense.
Yeah, totally agree, Totally agree.

473
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:46.759
Oka, I'm gonna ask you.
I'm gonna ask you question. I want

474
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:55.000
an honest fance. Where does Joe
Nell's rank among shooters at Arizona? Well,

475
00:32:55.160 --> 00:33:00.720
it's yeah, I'm I had run
a nice care Uh. There was

476
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:05.640
no three point line when I played. It was a long time ago,

477
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:09.559
as you reminded me, six years
old. Now hard to remember the college

478
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:13.440
basketball without a three, or there
was no three when I played. But

479
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:19.160
I saw Corneil Norman. I did
not play with Corneil, but Steve Kerr,

480
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.960
Coneil Norman, Celine Stottlem. I'm
probably somewhere in the top ten.

481
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.079
Okay, yeah, that's fair.
Well, I think I actually, I

482
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:29.640
think i'd probably put you at higher
than that. Seriously, I mean you

483
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.440
know i'd put after those three guys
you storm the court. Jayson, you're

484
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.720
biased. I just wonder, well
you got free spaghetti on the house.

485
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.400
A little biased. I was that
guy that when they threw you the ball,

486
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:44.839
I was yelling for you to shoot, no matter where you were,

487
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.880
seriously, no matter where you were, just shoot. He wanted to shoot

488
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:53.160
too. But that's funny. At
a lot of hours in the gym,

489
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:57.559
boys, I can tell you,
I bet shot. I bet. How

490
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.359
long did you practice? I said, I don't have enough time, or

491
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:06.480
it's thousands and thousands and thousands of
hours. But I didn't consider practice because

492
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.199
I loved the game. If I
wasn't studying or playing golf for anything else,

493
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:14.639
I was playing basketball. Was your
favorite shot from the corner? People

494
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:16.119
ask me that I like the top
of the key in the corner, and

495
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.760
people all, I like to bank
the shot. The square on the backboard

496
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:22.440
is used for a reason, And
people ask me, why don't people bank

497
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.800
the ball anymore. I do not
know. I was a John Wooden disciple,

498
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:30.320
and he preached all his players use
the backboard, use the backboard.

499
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.480
Now guys don't use the backboard anymore, and I often wonder why. But

500
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.480
corner and top of the key were
probably my favorite shots. Yes, you

501
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:45.679
know who used the backboard more often
now? Bollow not my design. I'm

502
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.519
one last question? Who was the
toughest or most impressive UCLA players? The

503
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:57.400
player you went against? Oh gosh, that I played against. I mean

504
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:01.119
I Ki Ki Vanderway. I mean
he had a long, outstanding career,

505
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:06.159
and I saw him a couple a
couple of years ago up at the Sun's

506
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:09.039
game. So we were roommates in
an All Star game. Super nice family,

507
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:14.440
very athletic, just a great guy
and fierce competitor on the court,

508
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.679
but off the court, just a
gentleman. So he was. He was

509
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.119
one of the best. But oh
gosh, there's so many good ones.

510
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.960
He's the only one that really comes
to mind that just really burned us every

511
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:31.159
single game. Yeah, okay,
well for one night you burned them back.

512
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:35.760
That's right, one night. It'll
stand in my memory as a highlight.

513
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:40.840
So and you fed Jay forever.
Honestly, I think I I think

514
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:46.480
I went there probably four times with
coupons from from from that weekend. Hey,

515
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:51.320
aren't you Yeah, okay, Joe, thanks for joining us. It

516
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.199
was the pun. Thank you guys. I appreciate it, all right,

517
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:58.639
see you later. But between you
telling him he was old and me telling

518
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.920
him that he was wrong, he
never go back. Hey, he loves

519
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:06.159
this. That was fun. That
was really fun. I would have had

520
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.159
and I would have probably I don't
have a memory. Okay, I remember

521
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:12.840
rushing the court. I don't have
a memory of what I did on the

522
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.880
court. But you know, Joe
was one of my favorite players on on

523
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.840
on that team, and I would
have sophomore I was a sophomore. I

524
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.760
would have run over there and you
know, hugged him or patted him only

525
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:30.079
that after the game. Yeah,
did you get drunk? I could have

526
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:32.239
because it was age. You were
of age. I was of age,

527
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:36.599
Yeah I was. I was nineteen. Yeah, yeah, I was of

528
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.840
age. Because nineteen I have no
recollection. So maybe I did go get

529
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:44.159
drunk. I don't know, because
it was it was it must have been

530
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.079
a crazy time. It was a
crazy time, and I'd have to look

531
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:50.519
up the date. But I believe
we'll look it up. I believe it

532
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:52.519
was a Friday. It was.
It was, it was eighteenth, and

533
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.599
in the twenty second it said here, okay, team to January eighteenth and

534
00:36:55.880 --> 00:37:02.199
twenty second the twenty second was a
Monday there and so probably not uci was

535
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:06.760
a Thursday Thursday? Then, so
well, not that I gave a crap,

536
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.440
as I could have got it could
have been Thursday, and I could

537
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:13.639
have gone and done something crazy class
Friday. And never mind. Ever,

538
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.599
let what's online? All right,
Okay, let's take our last break.

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welcome back to WY on the Ball,

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you know, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay, and

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he's Adam. We have thirteen minutes. Adam is going to keep his eye

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two oh four one six seven four
four zero talk about tonight's game, men's

589
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:53.280
and or women's What do you think? Uh? You did you? I'm

590
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.239
not sure you're gonna play it.
But nine points is still I think the

591
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:59.000
number? Is that still the number
I would I would take the number if

592
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:00.599
I were you still a if I
or you know, take the number.

593
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.599
It's a lot of points. I
think Arizona will win in a in a

594
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.440
close game, a close game.
Yeah yeah, I'm I'm kind of with

595
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.480
you on that. Yeah yeah yeah. Okay, let me get you on

596
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.840
the record because when I was gone, you said you hit the nail,

597
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:19.920
or at least the true to form
version of the win over Asu. So

598
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.039
give me a dead give me your
true deform version of this one. I

599
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.960
haven't even thought about it. I
think Arizona wins. Actually, you know

600
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:32.159
what, I think they cover?
Which I think they cover because oh we

601
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.400
have a collar. Okay, but
we'll follow up on that. Hi are

602
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.880
on the air and I on the
ball. Hi, it's James, James.

603
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:44.000
What's up? Not much? I
have a quick question for you guys.

604
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:46.559
Are you guys flying or driving up
to Vegas for the PAC twelve.

605
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.280
He's going He's going first class,
fly first class on Southwest seat like C

606
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.840
fifty nine or something like that.
I am flying, but Steve is driving

607
00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:00.679
driving. Okay, are you going
up Wednesday? Or Thursday morning. I'm

608
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.880
going up Wednesday with a group of
hacks like me. Okay, nice,

609
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.000
I'm having a debate with my buddies
what time we should leave Thursday morning.

610
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.719
Oh well, you know, you
don't know until you find out when Arizona's

611
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.599
playing, because they could play as
early as noon on there. That's what

612
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.119
I'm so, I'm thinking like four
am or earlier. We would have to

613
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.000
leave by right, for sure?
Yeah, for sure if you if they

614
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.039
play at noon, you're gonna have
one to leave by that time, and

615
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:29.880
you're gonna have some some a whole
lot of others too going up about that

616
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.119
time. I'm sure, right,
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. My

617
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:36.800
my buddies want to go like five, six o'clock, So that's not cutting

618
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.440
close. Let's getting closer. And
if they play at six, you have

619
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:45.079
all day. Yeah that's true.
Yeah, but uh well, hopefully you

620
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.960
A does well tonight, both the
women's and the men's. Hopefully you can

621
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.440
get at least one more win and
get a ticket punch for the actual tournament

622
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:57.239
and the men take off U C
l A the PAC twelve. Yeah,

623
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:00.679
you know, I we're we're just
talking about what we thought was gonna happen.

624
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:05.480
What do you think is gonna happen? Honestly, close game? Arizona

625
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.719
wins, Azona loses a close game? What do you think? I think

626
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.159
it's gonna be close, but I
think you have eight wins by five.

627
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:14.639
Yeah, so that's that's kind of
how I see it as well. It's

628
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:19.000
gonna be a close game, more
tense. U c l A dominated Arizona

629
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.239
for having there was No, that's
not a surprise. I mean I shouldn't

630
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.199
say that they did it for a
reason or how they did it, and

631
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:30.199
maybe they do it again over there. Yeah, do you guys know what

632
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:37.440
the spread is? Nine? Okay? Nine? That's about it for me,

633
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:38.840
guys. You guys take care and
bear down. James, thanks for

634
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:43.000
the columns. I thought he's gonna
ask us to see if you can watch

635
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.039
onto the drive you'll come with us? Yeah, I you know, I

636
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:53.360
think that. Uh, there's there's
just something by me that says what should

637
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:58.239
happen or what you think is gonna
happen? Like you said, a close

638
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.840
game, it's never gonna be comfortable
for Arizona for some reason, I'm thinking

639
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.320
I guess I'm overthinking instead because I'm
thinking Arizona just goes in there kicks their

640
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:10.440
ass. What did you say,
you're thinking, you're overthinking this. It's

641
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:17.079
which that's your middle name. Uh
Jay Gonzalez died here, who died born

642
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.480
here, died here? The overthinker. I just off the top of your

643
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.119
head, you said win and cover. I think I think by eleven,

644
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.920
okay, and I'm thinking it's gonna
be a win and barely and seven five

645
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:35.440
seven and no cover. You're probably
gonna be more right than I am,

646
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.400
because because I don't even I don't
even know. But you see, only

647
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:45.679
played really well that first game and
then they didn't because what did he say?

648
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:50.079
Because they played here right now you're
playing over there is gonna be crazy.

649
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:52.320
Yeah, but you know what,
there's gonna be a lot of Arizona

650
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.639
people there too. That doesn't need
That doesn't matter. I mean, that

651
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:58.760
doesn't matter. I just don't think. I just don't think the poly crowd

652
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.400
is intimidating. No, they're not. But but the road Oregon State wasn't.

653
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.960
The road has been kind of strange. Yeah, And Arizona has momentum

654
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:15.199
whatever that means they do. I
I don't know. I wouldn't by the

655
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.239
time I get home, I could
completely change my mind. Yeah, no

656
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.000
exactly, And that's this is that, this is that kind of Yeah.

657
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:24.880
Yeah, I mean you still has
a lot of shooting offensive woes. So

658
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.719
Arizona can just you know, stick
to their guns and play great defense,

659
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.880
because yeah, I feel like it
could get away from you. They're three

660
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.400
point shooting percentage was in the twenties
when they came here and they shot the

661
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.199
lights out, and you just don't, I don't know, you just kind

662
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:43.360
of don't expect that they'll do that
again. Well, here's the question.

663
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:46.679
Here's the thing. Arizona clear cut
better team, cut better team. And

664
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:51.320
here we are debating whether they're gonna
play it close or not play it close.

665
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:53.440
They shouldn't play this question. They
shouldn't. They should be able to.

666
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.440
I mean, in the end U
c l A is what the they're

667
00:45:55.480 --> 00:46:00.760
in seventh place in the league or
whatever. But but then again, they're

668
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.360
like like Nebraska and football. You
feel they've got good players, but they're

669
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:07.360
just not any good as a team. Now. We talked to Ben bolt

670
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.719
Chester saying he said he thinks about
a bunch of young guys and stuff like

671
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:14.880
that. But every you know,
Arizona loses a bunch of guys. Every

672
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:17.000
year, Tommy puts a team together
that does this. You know, U

673
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:20.480
c l A should be able to
do this, excuse me, should be

674
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.320
able to do the same thing.
And they haven't been able to, or

675
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:27.559
they they were not able to this
year. That team last year was really

676
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:31.920
good. You know, Tiger Campbell, Heyman Hawk is the kid that they

677
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:35.400
thought was going today. But oh
yeah, yeah, you know I thought.

678
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.800
I mean, they were really damn
good last year and they went from

679
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.719
that to this and a matter of
money. Well, and that's what that's

680
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:44.559
what it was. It was a
piecemeal team that he had to kind of

681
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.960
put together. Yeah, Jmorrow,
I forget the guard. He's in the

682
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.239
D League, right, That's it. That's it. You see, that's

683
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:57.000
why we have kids. They know
all the stuff off the top. They

684
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.760
don't know Beverlybillies, but they know, you know, the Beverly Hill Billies.

685
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:06.000
I don't I gotta I gotta crushing
up on them. When you're gonna

686
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.119
be hanging around a couple of old
guys like this a couple of times a

687
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:15.679
week, you're gonna have to learn
that stuff. But uh, I don't

688
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.440
know this at this moment. I
think Arizona covers the nine. I think

689
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.840
they play well. They kind of
demoralize the c l A Fort. But

690
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:27.199
I can be I can get to
swan On Fort Lowell and I could go

691
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.280
and you know what, Arizona's gonna
lose. You know, I don't know.

692
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.079
You listen to some post pregame of
I listened to us, and I

693
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:38.199
go, what the hell? There's
your problem? You would also have to

694
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:43.519
think you needs the game war.
I mean, but there don't they The

695
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.000
thing is their seasons over. They're
not going to dan. They have to

696
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:50.000
win. They're not going to dance
turns the dangerous part. They have nothing

697
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:55.280
to lose, but they have nothing
to gain pride. Remember that Arizona in

698
00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:00.400
the gym for anybody brings out the
best and team Well, the question doesn't

699
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.079
matter. Let's say Arizona goes up
fifteen in the first half. Do they

700
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.639
quit? Who who O? UCLA? Yes? Do they demoralized? No?

701
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:12.639
Unless unless he throws them under the
bus again, which could happen.

702
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.039
I can't even imagine what some of
those halftimes has been. Oh in the

703
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:19.679
ULA locker room. But he said, he said he's a he's tough but

704
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.679
he's a good dude. Yeah,
the best duty's ever covered. Well,

705
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.800
that's that's what you hear. And
I misspoke. UCLA is in sixth place.

706
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.840
They're actually tight for fifth, but
they're fourteen and fifteen r does it?

707
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:35.880
Does it matter to them whether or
not they have a winning record for

708
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:38.159
the season. Of course, of
course it does, of course it does.

709
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:42.480
Yeah, I mean this is UCLA. They have to have some pride.

710
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.719
They have to have some pride and
then you get that's huge for them.

711
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:51.000
Yeah, yeah, it's how they
got left. Well right now,

712
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.000
right, go there, you go. They should be able to beat ASU

713
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:58.000
who knows the place well tonight and
then play badly on Saturday. That's how

714
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:01.639
it is. Yeah, well I'm
gonna hey, don't don't don't forget them,

715
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:05.920
don't sleep on the USC because it's
always one of those you get up

716
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.760
for U C l A and then
you and then you gotta go play us.

717
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.599
And they're not the team that came
here, No, exactly, We've

718
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.119
talked about that exactly. You know, they're not the team that came here.

719
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:19.239
They're gonna have all their guys back
and Boogie Allis is really good.

720
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.079
So it was the other guy.
Yeah, yeah, they're both. Those

721
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.000
guys are really good. I mean
that the way they got destroyed here was

722
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:30.119
because you know, those guys were
not we're not around. But but in

723
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:32.840
the end though, USC is six
and twelve this year in the league,

724
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.480
in twelve and seventeen, did you
go to the game? To these games

725
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:39.079
here? You go to the game? I've been a couple. I did

726
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:44.719
go to the l one okay,
the USC And so we can't yell at

727
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.519
you for saying that Brownie was overrated
like the rest of the kids. Oh

728
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:52.360
whoa, But I mean you have
to give him some slack. He's coming

729
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:57.559
off the heart situation, but he's
not as good as well. What they

730
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.320
saw the said is labeled him the
beast. Yeah, yeah, I can

731
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:04.480
understand that, and I think you're
probably fair in saying that. No reason

732
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:06.599
to boo him. No, no, no, he wasn't there to boom

733
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:09.880
So we will get you if you
were there. No, I'm not.

734
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:15.159
Okay, good good answer. That's
a very good answer. When I asked

735
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:15.760
Jay. You know, when I
asked j are you good guy? You

736
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:19.639
know what he tells me, of
course I'm a good guy. What else

737
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:22.519
is you gonna say? What else. That's the answer. He's gonna say.

738
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:25.840
My wife thinks I'm a good guy. Get her on the phone.

739
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:32.119
My kids think I'm a good guy
on the phone. Okay, no,

740
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:37.079
cool. What about Washington Washington State
tonight? Uh? They I think they

741
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:40.280
cover It's it's pretty close though.
I think it's four yeah, four six,

742
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.079
six and a half. I would
think that they would they would win

743
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:49.320
covering Washington. The dude's gonna get
fired at the end of the year,

744
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:55.480
Hopkins. That's a team that's uh
checked in. Yeah. Yeah, they're

745
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:59.840
just not any good. They're not
any good. Uh. And you know,

746
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:01.920
he was supposed to be the good
coach. He just didn't do much

747
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.360
for a long time. Well he
had he had a good team, one

748
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.480
good team when you first got there. I think, yeah, well ten

749
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:14.039
years later, not so much.
What you know you're gonna bring, You're

750
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:17.079
gonna bring up the you know,
come and play the Jim Jim Beheim a

751
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:22.199
zone zone defense. You know.
I don't know, man, I don't

752
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:27.000
know, but you know it's what
I like is that this is gonna be

753
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.880
a very interesting weekend for for Arizona. They're going to have you know,

754
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:37.840
there's people waiting for them to show
right that they can make this run that

755
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.239
people are hoping that they make.
And this is where it kind of I

756
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:43.000
mean, they've been on a run, but this is kind of where it

757
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:46.760
starts. You got to you got
to play really well against uh, you

758
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:51.519
know, against you U c l
A, like you have to. Yeah.

759
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:54.159
Yeah. And it's early enough for
people to see on the East coast

760
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:59.000
because it is UCLA, and a
lot of the minds will be made up

761
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:00.719
of how good Arizona is because,
like I said, they only watched the

762
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.360
good games. They don't want some
bad games, and this is gonna be

763
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:07.199
in their mind of good games,
this ESPN game. Yeah, Okay.

764
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:12.000
Richard Jefferson will be on the call
with he has he done have you seen

765
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:15.480
him do? Yeah, he's done
a few. He's really good. He's

766
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.679
really good. Yeah, because he's
a he's a smart charmers man. Yeah,

767
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:22.360
funny kind of guy. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm interested. I'll be

768
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:27.559
interested to watch. Did you listen
You couldn't. I said you didn't listen

769
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:31.519
to Josh Josh? It was pretty
good. Almost said we did. Notice

770
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:36.039
was every time you looked at him
he was talking and moving his arms.

771
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.760
Yeah, he was talking. Yeah, he was doing the talking and right

772
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:45.320
there, this is God horse Bill
when you need him. That was pretty

773
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:47.199
funny. He was doing all the
time. I hope you come back.

774
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:52.239
Josh's taking over all right. Uh, that's it, Adam, nice job.

775
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.480
You did good well from tomorrow.
Coming back tomorrow, right, yeah,

776
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:58.280
all right, I'll be back tomorrow. Now he's a he's a grizzled

777
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:00.320
veteran. He's got this. I
think he's got can catch your check tomorrow.

778
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:05.280
Yeah, we'll be back to a
breakdown what happens tonight. You got

779
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:09.079
women the Women at seven o'clock against
the USC Pack Club Networks, and then

780
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:15.480
we'll have the we'll talk Arizona UCLA. Maybe come in with some Tommy Lloyd

781
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:17.760
postgame stuff. So be sure to
come back tomorrow and we'll see what it

782
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.320
looks like. So see you tomorrow