Steve Bravera and Jacin Sales. They have their eye on the ball on Tucson
Sports Station. Yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to I
the Ball here a Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's Jay.
Now we have Adam with breaking news, his eye on the ball, breaking
news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Look at that. He already got that
part right, So far, so good. All right, Adam, what
do you got? So? The first thing I saw was the Cats set
the school record. They took second place in the two hundred medley relay swimming
swim men men or women men men? All right, this was a school
records at eight hundred freestyle relay in which all the teams got a chance to
be on the podium spot. And since twenty thirteen, uh, eleven years
later, the wow, that's a big deal, given that the men's team
or all the swimming teams have been pretty I mean they've over they have had
world record holders over the year. So yeah, that's that's a cool one.
It is Delaney Schnell still, she's she's just getting ready. Okay,
the diver all right, yeah, okay, Next what I saw U of
A obviously beat Washington last night, and women's they take on USC. Who's
next in the fact twelve tournament? Just kind of sing your thoughts on what
you guys think. Well, you know, you'd like to think that they
played him so well the other night, but they're not going to sneak up
on USC, like maybe they might have last week. Right, sure,
No, if anything, USC is going to be very ready for you.
You could have seventy Yeah, yeah, you know, but who knows?
You know, who knows what a little momentum does for you? Steve the
ask you, Well, I don't because we'll laughing joke about this old Okay,
good luck with that moment. There was an article who are the top
fifty players and packed twelve women's basketball history? Arizona had two members. Oh
okay, number nineteen was I think it was number twenty one. We had
Ari McDonald yep, Arry McDonald yep. I got yelled at for calling her
Ari yes, yes, and then fifteen Barnes idea Barnes. Barnes is number
fifteen on the list. So yeah, that's pretty respectable. I thought when
I was reading it yesterday the day before, I'm thinking that Arry might be
higher, But then you read the list was higher than who? Right?
Who You're gonna put her ahead of? Right? Who? You say?
I haven't seen? Who was number one? Number one? Was Cheryl Miller,
Shan Miller, Lisa Leslie, yes, yes, yes, yes,
and then Cheryl Miller. Cheryl Miller is not on this list that come on.
Maybe it's because it's packed twelve may oh is it? I don't know,
but now, but Cheryl Miller played when it was pack ten. There
were so many players I can't remember who was on the number two list I
had on this list? Uh Kent's pronounce her name the kiak? Oh yeah
yeah she does. I think she one that does the ESPN stuff. Okay,
this is this is packed twelve history, that's why. And and Cheryl
Miller was was pre packed. It was still packed ten. Yes, so
this is so this is just since No, that's not true because Lisa Leslie
was prepacked. Yeah, so Cheryl Miller not on there. She might be
later on. Tina Thompson. It's pretty nine escu. I thought I saw
her name. No, no, no, no, who did this list?
Yeah? Come on? Man? Actually the ESPN W list, So
uh, we'll have to go look into Lisa Leslie, uh, the kid,
the girl from Stanford, and then Kelsey Plumb obviously the score and chan
oh here it is here, it is here, it is here. It
is the pack the Uh she she played before uh, the NC double A
started doing women's sports. It was it was the year after shiel Miller was
done. So it's only considered, you know, Uh, the nineteen eighty
six eighty seven academic year. The it wasn't a it wasn't a pack.
The PAC twelve women's basketball was not a PAC twelve or PACK ten oh Okay
league. It was a it was a like a West Coast Conference league or
something like that. So shiel Miller, that's why she is not on the
list. Neither is Anne Meyers, neither Cynthia Cooper. It was the Western
Collegiate Athletic Association. Uh, and then it became the Pack West and its
finally year and then it joined the PAC ten and it was after they were
gone. So that's why she's not on the list. Another news, college
basketball, Indiana's retaining Mike Woodson's despite their poor season. Good luck with that.
He's not a good coach, you know, and say he got ripped
for saying something about a style of basketball, just kind of sticking to a
style of basketball. Yeah, like last week or last week, and the
people are saying he should be fired just for saying that. Yeah, he's
not a good night. I couldn't tell you what it was, but it
was clear, you know, just a kind of a plodding, you know,
stiff kind of yeah, those dud system that nobody wants to play anymore.
And then he's he still believes that's the way you win games. People
saying just for that alone, he should be fired. Well didn't didn't The
guy that there was only had four years ago the same thing. Yeah a
little bit. Yeah, but he but he but he remade himself. So
yes, yeah, well you know what the bio was for him? Twelve
million for them, that's probably nothing. You know, I wouldn't. I
wouldn't guess that Indiana has a ton of money their football program and all that
great for basketball though they they live and breathe. When I told you that
they played Arizona in the Vegas Member last year, and I told you their
blue blood was blue blood because five minutes to explain everything in Arizona went through
like twin seconds. The feudal final force. But but I'm sure they have
people, but twelve million, and guess what, who are you gonna get?
They just fired Archie Millery before this guy. They did, they did,
they did other college news. College football's early signing period it has moved
up three weeks, uh will now previously from mid December. Now it's going
to be preceding conference championship games starting this year. That's probably to avoid something
or to to make something happen because of all the moves. And then you
need to know who's coming, who's going. Yeah, yeah, I think
because so many teams end their seasons, you know, before the conference championship
games, they want to know who's leaving, who's staying, all that kind
of stuff. Yeah. I think there's a movement though to get ri of
the early signing period altogether and just have it go back to the signing period
in February. But who knows with all the all the stuff that they're talking
about. You know what I was, I was listening to a podcast today
talking about it. You know, if if if athletes are going to be
employees, particularly football are going to be employees, to have a draft and
get rid of recruiting draft by conference. So you say, let's say you're
a football player, you're like a great football player, and you say,
okay, I'm going to put my name into the draft or the SEC or
I'm gonna put my name into the draft for I don't I can't imagine it
would work, because then how do you tell a kid who's smart enough to
go to Stanford, well, you didn't get drafted by Stanford, You're going
to you know, Tennessee State or whatever. Right, I can't see how
that would ever. They ignowed, They said, look, this is just
a conversation that acknowledged this could probably never ever happen. Plus the conferences would
have to come together to decide how to do that. But it was fun.
It was just an interesting conversation things that will never happen. Yeah,
but it was just a conversation of but this is the extent to what people
are thinking about in terms of what's going to happen to to the to athletics.
Just you know what, to break out football and be done with it.
That's what Eventually, that's what's going to break it out, do what
however you want, and and let it fund the other you know, the
other programs in your in your university and go back to where you were with
the other programs, or maybe football and basketball. I don't know. I
don't know. One thing that worries me is what they're gonna do to the
NCAA tournament with all this stuff. You know, they want to add another
you know, they want to add another another thirty two teams. That too,
is basically another weekend of games. So now it's it becomes a four
week tournament and everybody and their brother gets in this total the total money grab.
That's all it's about. It. It's not about anything else. It's
certainly not about making the tournament better, because it doesn't make it better.
It's it's good. Just it's great, just the way it is, all
right. In a couple of NBA news, Karl Anthony Towns of the Minnesota
Timberwolves. They are the league leading in the West. He's reportedly torn his
meniscus, so we don't know how that will go going forward for them.
That's a big blow Introjectionally, that reminds me of the of the of your
adding the teams another thirty two teams to the men's basketball tournament. It's like
addie, you have a bad marriage. Let's have another kid. Uh,
let's have another kid. It will be great. We'll become more, we'll
be to each other. I can't use that example because I thought we were
done it too, and then we had a third and I and I have
to if you don't say I don't say anything. I love heard it dead,
but you I know what you're saying. Hey, we've got ten kids,
let's have one more. I'm Philip Rivers. Yeah, okay, all
right. And then lastly, Ben Simmons reportedly out. Yeah. Ben Simmons
reportedly out for the season. Once again. I'm shocked. I just fell
off my chair and I'm shocked. Pick me up. Was he even playing
this year? He was sporadically playing a lot of games. He'd play one,
miss a few. How much How cool of a job would you would
you have if you played sometimes and sometimes mostly not for five or six years
like he's done. And when you played, you suck. I mean maybe
not suck, but you know you're not that good. He had a very
promising starts his career too, And it's just kind of crazy how that's kind
of three money kind of I guess they still pay him right, yeah,
yeah, oh yeah, he's still making a bunch of money, you know,
in the trade and he's still getting all that money. You would never
never Jay, I know you, if you was available to you to play,
you would never get him on your team. Absolutely, you know,
big draft, I'd be a I wouldn't be afraid to shoot god. It's
it's crazy that but you know that. That's you know, that's what it
is. You know what are they? I mean, they're still paying Bobby
Bonia to not play? Right? Well, you saw tell me explain to
me the Denver quarterback Russell they've lost eighty are they paying them eighty four eight
five million and dead cap? So they kind of have to yeah, pay
that or they can't. They don't have that allotment to pay on the guys,
right, So look at that. How much money you must you be
making if you own a franchise and eighty four million? Okay, we won't
worry about me. Let me go check the seat the seatback seat of my
car. That's the equivalent of the eighty four million to them. Yeah yeah,
well, how they not sign them to the two year contract extension?
You'd be afraid agent? Probably this year. Yeah, so tough tough break
for them. Who says there's no money in this world. It's all over
the place. You just don't have any of it, right, any of
it? Okay? Anything else? Know that? That was it for good?
All right? Nice job, very good, very good. Oh I
thought you had the the Jake Paul. Oh yeah, Jake Paul is reportedly
going to fight Mike Tyson. So that has that may said? Any about
how much money these guys are getting for that or anything like that. I'm
uh not that I saw, but I mean, if Mike Tyson's gonna fight,
it's gotta be okay, how much would they have to pay? You,
Steve to take a punch in the face for Mike Tyson, or take
a bunch of punches in the face for I couldn't. I wouldn't do it.
I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. He's fifty seven millions.
You can take him. You run it around the ring, you know
what. I you know what, I take my punch and go down and
be done with it and hope that I live to tell about it. Yeah,
plea to tell about it, because you know I love that that scene
in the movie the hangover when he punches the he punches the what's his name,
uh, Doug Black guys and drops him right there and they're like he
took a punch from Mike ty said, I mean that's cool, but I
can't even imagine. Yeah, that'd be it'd be fun with gloves. I
would put my money on. I feel like you would kill me. Oh
yeah, you would be like I would get killed or would have a good
chance of getting killed. So I don't know anyway that that's an interesting When
When is that fight? July July? Just sometimes in July we nowhere,
no Vegas. I'm assuming no, yes, no, it's gonna be streamed
on Netflix. That's right, twentieth at Dallas at AT and T Stadium in
the stadium. Yeah, in the stadium. Party so out, yeah you
think so oh yeah, people go yeah, oh yeah, that's how crazy
it would be. Come on, Jake Paul. Here's a here's a quote
by I guess uh one of the organizers, Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson is
a once in a lifetime dream matchup and I anticipated it will be the most
watched boxing event in modern boxing history. Who said that I wouldn't doubt that.
Uh, come on, and watching a fifty seven year old guy boxes
is the event of a box. I would say yes because they're both polarizing
and and he probably want Mike Teston to kick the crap out of the Jake
Paul Kind Uh, I would have show. Yeah, and Mike Tyson they
still he still beloved. Have you do you watch his podcast? We listen
to that stuff. No, it's it's very good. I'm like, I
don't dislike Mike Tyson, but I feel like if I watched I would get
dumber. Right, But he's very insightful, very I've watched a few things
and he's very He's not the Mike Texon we know or you Yeah, No,
I know that, and I've seen him on some other stuff. I'm
not gonna watch his podcast. He's very philosophical, which makes no sense,
but he is. Uh, but I would. I would. My mortgage
is going on that Netflix. It's on Netflix. Yeah, I'll give you
my I'll give you my account, I give you my sign on you can.
Okay, he didn't say that, mister Netflix. He didn't say that.
Okay, let's take our breaker and have Joe Nails on He was part
of the first Arizona team that beat U. C. L A and long
before the rivalry became what it is today. But we'll we'll talk to Joe
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Steve Rivera and Jagen Saliz they have their eye on the ball on Tucson's sports
Stag yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live im the iHeartRadio wapp Hey, welcome
back to winding the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,
He's Jacobs Awes and I on the vote. We have a former U
of A basketball star, Joe Nels. Joe How are you doing great?
Doing great? How are you guys? We're doing well. It's been a
while since we've spoken to you on the show. Good to have you on
there. We wanted a wax poetic and think back to the time when the
Pack eight was ten and you were a part of that. How was it
back then? Well, my first year we're in the WHAC Conference Western Athletic
and then we moved to the PAC twelve and it was tailgate stickers said,
back to casts, whack the pack. I remember that. Unfortunately the pack
is no longer going to be and it's kind of sad after one hundred years,
but uh yeah, it was quite the experience though, going to UCLA,
especially with John Wood and the great coach there ten national championships, seven
in a row, eighty eight games in a row. Never never going to
see those numbers again. Now now the decision and the vote to for Arizona
to go into the pack? What was the pack eight became the Pack ten?
Was before you got here? Did you know that? Did you have
a it was that part of the reason why you came here at all?
Or were you thinking about that at all? No, not at all.
I remember watching Arizona play Ucla. My senior year in high school. I
could only dream about playing against the UCLA and being on a great team like
Arizona. So no I had I had absolutely no bearing and it wasn't even
on the table then. Yeah, but you were, you know, I
think you can probably hold you hold a car to somebody who beat was the
first Arizona team to beat Ucla? Yeah, that was at home. It
was pretty intimidating going to Paul. I can tell you that first time my
sophomore year. That was right before we went into the PAC twelve and kind
of had an exhibition game and seeing all the national championship banners and then John
Wooden and Coach Snowden were talking on the sidelines watching this practice. It was
all kind of a blur before you actually went in there to be in the
PAC ten at the time. And I asked this subject because I wasn't here.
I didn't if you're at the time, did did people? Maybe the
general public says, what are we doing? We're going to get butt kicked?
And how did the athletes feel about that? I think that speaking for
myself and the guys on our team, it was it was kind of a
step up. We thought in competition, you see, everybody had heard of
UCLA and USC and play better. Competition will only make you better. So
I think all the athletes look at it, looked at is a very positive
step. Yeah. So think of going back to that first first home game.
Did you did you play them at their place before that or was that
the first time the league? I think I think we did, uh,
And then we played him at home. We had a back to back Thursday
Saturday and we beat UCLA. I think they were number two in the country.
And then we played USC It was number seven or eight at the time,
and we beat them also. So that was probably the highlight of my
college basketball career right there. So thinking back to that game and they're coming
to your place, you know, do you recall anything in the locker room,
anything about the team, that week of practice, anything like that about
that kind of led you to believe, Hey, you know, we got
a really good shot of beating these guys, or we're going to beat these
guys, or let's beat these guys. What was the approach, Well,
you always have a positive mindset. Night, we had a really good week
of practice and we really felt like we could beat them. We felt very
confident, even though I think the week before we got blown out by Oregon,
so it was kind of unexpected. No one expected except all the guys
on the team. We had a lot of positive vibes, and once we
led, we almost gave it away at the end of the game. If
I remember that my memory serves me right, we were trying to stall.
Coach Snowden liked to stall, and we turned the ball over. But fortunately
John Smith hit a free throw and Keiky Vanderway almost made a last second shot
over John Pelgrade. But we won by one. So that was That was
definitely a fun time. So let me let me tell you how accurate you
were. So the week before you lost or State at Oregon State one sixteen
to eighty. Come, thank you, Steve. I'm just putting out,
well, you bet. Oregon State also was in the top ten at the
time with five NBA players on the rocks. I'm just putting out because you
were close. You were. Then you beat UCLA by one, and obviously
and then USC the Spaghetti game, and then you you guys are living off
that. You go to SU when you get beat Oh, I don't remember
losing the issue. But thank you for being back on very bad memory.
But also I have to say my first game I ever played at Arizona I
got to play my sophomore year and they hit a game winner at Arizona State.
Well, he who was the game with your shot? No? I
was saying in the in the u c l A game, didn't you hit
the shot or a shot that tied the game before John John Smith made his
freaquent. Yeah, you hit a shot from that that was a blur.
I don't until I read the article, I don't remember that. But it
was a baseline less less baseline jumper to tie the game, I think at
seven. Yeah. And then and then you beat defensive stop on him,
and then they filed Smith. He made the first or missed the second.
And then I remember Bella brading falling down. I'm like, oh god,
we're gonna lose on a fall down and Kiki Vanderway missed the shot. I
remember that. There you go. So let me ask you the question of
the day that I won't you know, did you remember seeing a small short
Mexican running rushing the court? Were you I didn't think you were born yet.
That would be that would have been me. I rushed the court at
that game. I don't know if I hugged you or hugged Larry Demic or
jumped on you or anything like that. But I was a student because I
was a year behind you. And if you recall, the student section were
in bleachers around three sides of the court, and the shot that you hit
was right in front of me, and uh, and I remember, well,
it's it's I can't remember stuff that far back. I couldn't. I
can't remember what I had for lunch this today. But and my my buddy
and I who were both you know there, we were on the court.
We rushed the court and I would think we would like gone up and patted
you on the back or something like that. I don't know. Yeah,
we we reveled in it. We stayed on the court for a while.
But people asked me how many people actually went to spaghetti factory and redeemed the
coupon. So I'd have to ask you, Jay, did you get your
free piece of spaghetti and pizza? And in fact, we were talking about
that because they did that. The spaghetti company did that a couple of times
and ended up ended up going bankrupt largely over that because remember they never thought
we could beat the top ten ranked teams in the country, and we beat
them both right and the the you know, the arena held a thousand more
than it holds now. It held over fifteen thousand back there because there were
a bunch of bleachers around the floor and so it had it had a higher
attendance. But oh yeah, and I went around collecting them. You know,
people were dropped, he had dropped them and stuff like that. I
went around and picked him up. I was in college, man, I
was. I get many of those as I remember that. That was those
fun times. That was definitely one of the highlights of my college career.
Do you remember how many times there was a court storming in your career?
And I asked for reasons A few in my career. I mean, when
we beat a su at Asu obviously there were enough you of A fans there,
so that was a no. But U c L a USC those were
the only two memorable ones. I don't think we really had any others in
my career that I that I can remember. The reason I asked is because
it's it's it's topical news. Now given the situation with did you feel back
then? Can you remember it was all positive because it was friendly fans,
right, I guess it was everything to be okay. But if you were
on some other court where it would have been tough. But I guess you
know you had d J patting you on the back. Yeah, Jay,
And you know, we felt it was at home. So I never experienced
getting the court storm because we weren't that good in my day, so when
people beat us, it was expected on the road, so we never had
any wild celebrations. If Oregon State beat us or you know, ASU,
it really didn't matter. But I yeah, it's getting out of hand now
with these students, so they very aggressive and hurting players and just I don't
know what will happen, but something bad probably going to happen, and then
they'll stop the storming of the courts. Yeah. So, Joe, So
you know your basketball career ended, you became a fan. I'm assuming I
know you did radio for a long time and stuff like that. But as
a fan and what's happened, you talked about it. You know it's sad,
but growing up, I mean you grew up, you know, watching
the Pac ten in the in the in the PAC twelve and now it's going
to be gone. I mean, what what's going through your mind on that
right now? Pretty sad to tell you the truth. I played basketball because
I love the game. And now I hear what these college kids are getting
paid with nil money, and it's just astronomical. You know, three million,
five million, and if you're not, if you're a great high school
player, you can make two three four million. If you're Lebron james Son.
You know, BRONI made a couple of million a year when he was
in high school. Still, so it's it's definitely changed. And people say,
well, don't you think you should be paid to play college sports?
I said, we had a free education, free room and board. That's
worth quarter of a million dollars right there. That is that is getting paid
in a roundabout way. So I don't know when it'll change. But all
the when I played, they didn't have all the cable networks, and I
think that's what changed the sport and so much money flying around. I don't
know. It's it's sad to see one hundred years of the PAC eight,
PAC ten, PAC twelve just evaporate, right, So we ask guys now
who played the game at your level. I'm sure you watch you watch this
basketball still, how do you watch it painfully? It's you know, back
in the day, you weren't allowed to carry the ball. Now, the
way these guys reverse dribbles and hesitation dribbles, that's that's a definite violation.
And the game now is morphed into basically a pick and roll game. Some
games, like watching the last Arizona home game, it was like the opposing
team was just not moving the ball, just standing and it was easy to
guard. And it's just it's changed a lot. I missed the game where
you pass and cut and everybody touches the ball, and it's just I think
it's a thing of the past. Yeah you do, you do you not
like the game the way it is. I like the game up and down.
I like the way Tommy Lloyd coaches kind of freedom. But that can
also come back and bite you if you're not having a good game, and
guys kind of get scatterbrained at times, as we all do. Playing.
You got to take a time out and kind of calm the troops, and
sometimes I can come back and haunt you. I think this year we've played
down to our competition at times. So people ask me, how do you
think we're do in the tournament? I said, we can win it all
or we can flame out in the first round. It just depends what team
shows up well. Your thoughts are consistent like mine, because no when everyone
when they played well, you say this is the team that could win it
all, and this is well. Conversely, it's the opposite, because if
they don't show up, they don't play well. You being a shooter,
being a shooter, and you've seen some shooters back in the seventies with Heurm
Harrison and Cony Norman. Where would you put Caleb Love. I've never really
considered him a shooter. He's a scorer, but I mean, I don't
think he's a great shooter by any means. He's a great scorer. He's
got a tremendous amount of talent. He's not afraid to ever pull the trigger,
so he's fearless, and he likes to be in the position of needing
to score and wanting to score the ball. So my hat's off him.
For those pressure situations, he seems to thrive and those presser pressure situations interesting.
Yeah, I mean I know he's not the classic. You know,
he's not the Selim start of Steve Kurse shooter shooter. He's a slasher driver,
dunks the ball. I mean, I wouldn't consider him a great shooter,
interesting, but good enough to get them far. Oh. Absolutely,
I mean I think that. I think he's one of the keys. But
I think Boswell at the point, and even people forget about Pella Larson,
and he plays really well. Cats typically play real well. But I think
the real key is defensively, when they really get after you defensively and play
good defense. They're they're tough to be. They can score the ball,
but sometimes they don't play defense. Yeah, totally agree, Totally agree.
Oka, I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask you question. I want
an honest fance. Where does Joe Nell's rank among shooters at Arizona? Well,
it's yeah, I'm I had run a nice care Uh. There was
no three point line when I played. It was a long time ago,
as you reminded me, six years old. Now hard to remember the college
basketball without a three, or there was no three when I played. But
I saw Corneil Norman. I did not play with Corneil, but Steve Kerr,
Coneil Norman, Celine Stottlem. I'm probably somewhere in the top ten.
Okay, yeah, that's fair. Well, I think I actually, I
think i'd probably put you at higher than that. Seriously, I mean you
know i'd put after those three guys you storm the court. Jayson, you're
biased. I just wonder, well you got free spaghetti on the house.
A little biased. I was that guy that when they threw you the ball,
I was yelling for you to shoot, no matter where you were,
seriously, no matter where you were, just shoot. He wanted to shoot
too. But that's funny. At a lot of hours in the gym,
boys, I can tell you, I bet shot. I bet. How
long did you practice? I said, I don't have enough time, or
it's thousands and thousands and thousands of hours. But I didn't consider practice because
I loved the game. If I wasn't studying or playing golf for anything else,
I was playing basketball. Was your favorite shot from the corner? People
ask me that I like the top of the key in the corner, and
people all, I like to bank the shot. The square on the backboard
is used for a reason, And people ask me, why don't people bank
the ball anymore. I do not know. I was a John Wooden disciple,
and he preached all his players use the backboard, use the backboard.
Now guys don't use the backboard anymore, and I often wonder why. But
corner and top of the key were probably my favorite shots. Yes, you
know who used the backboard more often now? Bollow not my design. I'm
one last question? Who was the toughest or most impressive UCLA players? The
player you went against? Oh gosh, that I played against. I mean
I Ki Ki Vanderway. I mean he had a long, outstanding career,
and I saw him a couple a couple of years ago up at the Sun's
game. So we were roommates in an All Star game. Super nice family,
very athletic, just a great guy and fierce competitor on the court,
but off the court, just a gentleman. So he was. He was
one of the best. But oh gosh, there's so many good ones.
He's the only one that really comes to mind that just really burned us every
single game. Yeah, okay, well for one night you burned them back.
That's right, one night. It'll stand in my memory as a highlight.
So and you fed Jay forever. Honestly, I think I I think
I went there probably four times with coupons from from from that weekend. Hey,
aren't you Yeah, okay, Joe, thanks for joining us. It
was the pun. Thank you guys. I appreciate it, all right,
see you later. But between you telling him he was old and me telling
him that he was wrong, he never go back. Hey, he loves
this. That was fun. That was really fun. I would have had
and I would have probably I don't have a memory. Okay, I remember
rushing the court. I don't have a memory of what I did on the
court. But you know, Joe was one of my favorite players on on
on that team, and I would have sophomore I was a sophomore. I
would have run over there and you know, hugged him or patted him only
that after the game. Yeah, did you get drunk? I could have
because it was age. You were of age. I was of age,
Yeah I was. I was nineteen. Yeah, yeah, I was of
age. Because nineteen I have no recollection. So maybe I did go get
drunk. I don't know, because it was it was it must have been
a crazy time. It was a crazy time, and I'd have to look
up the date. But I believe we'll look it up. I believe it
was a Friday. It was. It was, it was eighteenth, and
in the twenty second it said here, okay, team to January eighteenth and
twenty second the twenty second was a Monday there and so probably not uci was
a Thursday Thursday? Then, so well, not that I gave a crap,
as I could have got it could have been Thursday, and I could
have gone and done something crazy class Friday. And never mind. Ever,
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Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to WY on the Ball,
you know, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay, and
he's Adam. We have thirteen minutes. Adam is going to keep his eye
on the ball and the light for us. Any guys want to call five
two oh four one six seven four four zero talk about tonight's game, men's
and or women's What do you think? Uh? You did you? I'm
not sure you're gonna play it. But nine points is still I think the
number? Is that still the number I would I would take the number if
I were you still a if I or you know, take the number.
It's a lot of points. I think Arizona will win in a in a
close game, a close game. Yeah yeah, I'm I'm kind of with
you on that. Yeah yeah yeah. Okay, let me get you on
the record because when I was gone, you said you hit the nail,
or at least the true to form version of the win over Asu. So
give me a dead give me your true deform version of this one. I
haven't even thought about it. I think Arizona wins. Actually, you know
what, I think they cover? Which I think they cover because oh we
have a collar. Okay, but we'll follow up on that. Hi are
on the air and I on the ball. Hi, it's James, James.
What's up? Not much? I have a quick question for you guys.
Are you guys flying or driving up to Vegas for the PAC twelve.
He's going He's going first class, fly first class on Southwest seat like C
fifty nine or something like that. I am flying, but Steve is driving
driving. Okay, are you going up Wednesday? Or Thursday morning. I'm
going up Wednesday with a group of hacks like me. Okay, nice,
I'm having a debate with my buddies what time we should leave Thursday morning.
Oh well, you know, you don't know until you find out when Arizona's
playing, because they could play as early as noon on there. That's what
I'm so, I'm thinking like four am or earlier. We would have to
leave by right, for sure? Yeah, for sure if you if they
play at noon, you're gonna have one to leave by that time, and
you're gonna have some some a whole lot of others too going up about that
time. I'm sure, right, Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. My
my buddies want to go like five, six o'clock, So that's not cutting
close. Let's getting closer. And if they play at six, you have
all day. Yeah that's true. Yeah, but uh well, hopefully you
A does well tonight, both the women's and the men's. Hopefully you can
get at least one more win and get a ticket punch for the actual tournament
and the men take off U C l A the PAC twelve. Yeah,
you know, I we're we're just talking about what we thought was gonna happen.
What do you think is gonna happen? Honestly, close game? Arizona
wins, Azona loses a close game? What do you think? I think
it's gonna be close, but I think you have eight wins by five.
Yeah, so that's that's kind of how I see it as well. It's
gonna be a close game, more tense. U c l A dominated Arizona
for having there was No, that's not a surprise. I mean I shouldn't
say that they did it for a reason or how they did it, and
maybe they do it again over there. Yeah, do you guys know what
the spread is? Nine? Okay? Nine? That's about it for me,
guys. You guys take care and bear down. James, thanks for
the columns. I thought he's gonna ask us to see if you can watch
onto the drive you'll come with us? Yeah, I you know, I
think that. Uh, there's there's just something by me that says what should
happen or what you think is gonna happen? Like you said, a close
game, it's never gonna be comfortable for Arizona for some reason, I'm thinking
I guess I'm overthinking instead because I'm thinking Arizona just goes in there kicks their
ass. What did you say, you're thinking, you're overthinking this. It's
which that's your middle name. Uh Jay Gonzalez died here, who died born
here, died here? The overthinker. I just off the top of your
head, you said win and cover. I think I think by eleven,
okay, and I'm thinking it's gonna be a win and barely and seven five
seven and no cover. You're probably gonna be more right than I am,
because because I don't even I don't even know. But you see, only
played really well that first game and then they didn't because what did he say?
Because they played here right now you're playing over there is gonna be crazy.
Yeah, but you know what, there's gonna be a lot of Arizona
people there too. That doesn't need That doesn't matter. I mean, that
doesn't matter. I just don't think. I just don't think the poly crowd
is intimidating. No, they're not. But but the road Oregon State wasn't.
The road has been kind of strange. Yeah, And Arizona has momentum
whatever that means they do. I I don't know. I wouldn't by the
time I get home, I could completely change my mind. Yeah, no
exactly, And that's this is that, this is that kind of Yeah.
Yeah, I mean you still has a lot of shooting offensive woes. So
Arizona can just you know, stick to their guns and play great defense,
because yeah, I feel like it could get away from you. They're three
point shooting percentage was in the twenties when they came here and they shot the
lights out, and you just don't, I don't know, you just kind
of don't expect that they'll do that again. Well, here's the question.
Here's the thing. Arizona clear cut better team, cut better team. And
here we are debating whether they're gonna play it close or not play it close.
They shouldn't play this question. They shouldn't. They should be able to.
I mean, in the end U c l A is what the they're
in seventh place in the league or whatever. But but then again, they're
like like Nebraska and football. You feel they've got good players, but they're
just not any good as a team. Now. We talked to Ben bolt
Chester saying he said he thinks about a bunch of young guys and stuff like
that. But every you know, Arizona loses a bunch of guys. Every
year, Tommy puts a team together that does this. You know, U
c l A should be able to do this, excuse me, should be
able to do the same thing. And they haven't been able to, or
they they were not able to this year. That team last year was really
good. You know, Tiger Campbell, Heyman Hawk is the kid that they
thought was going today. But oh yeah, yeah, you know I thought.
I mean, they were really damn good last year and they went from
that to this and a matter of money. Well, and that's what that's
what it was. It was a piecemeal team that he had to kind of
put together. Yeah, Jmorrow, I forget the guard. He's in the
D League, right, That's it. That's it. You see, that's
why we have kids. They know all the stuff off the top. They
don't know Beverlybillies, but they know, you know, the Beverly Hill Billies.
I don't I gotta I gotta crushing up on them. When you're gonna
be hanging around a couple of old guys like this a couple of times a
week, you're gonna have to learn that stuff. But uh, I don't
know this at this moment. I think Arizona covers the nine. I think
they play well. They kind of demoralize the c l A Fort. But
I can be I can get to swan On Fort Lowell and I could go
and you know what, Arizona's gonna lose. You know, I don't know.
You listen to some post pregame of I listened to us, and I
go, what the hell? There's your problem? You would also have to
think you needs the game war. I mean, but there don't they The
thing is their seasons over. They're not going to dan. They have to
win. They're not going to dance turns the dangerous part. They have nothing
to lose, but they have nothing to gain pride. Remember that Arizona in
the gym for anybody brings out the best and team Well, the question doesn't
matter. Let's say Arizona goes up fifteen in the first half. Do they
quit? Who who O? UCLA? Yes? Do they demoralized? No?
Unless unless he throws them under the bus again, which could happen.
I can't even imagine what some of those halftimes has been. Oh in the
ULA locker room. But he said, he said he's a he's tough but
he's a good dude. Yeah, the best duty's ever covered. Well,
that's that's what you hear. And I misspoke. UCLA is in sixth place.
They're actually tight for fifth, but they're fourteen and fifteen r does it?
Does it matter to them whether or not they have a winning record for
the season. Of course, of course it does, of course it does.
Yeah, I mean this is UCLA. They have to have some pride.
They have to have some pride and then you get that's huge for them.
Yeah, yeah, it's how they got left. Well right now,
right, go there, you go. They should be able to beat ASU
who knows the place well tonight and then play badly on Saturday. That's how
it is. Yeah, well I'm gonna hey, don't don't don't forget them,
don't sleep on the USC because it's always one of those you get up
for U C l A and then you and then you gotta go play us.
And they're not the team that came here, No, exactly, We've
talked about that exactly. You know, they're not the team that came here.
They're gonna have all their guys back and Boogie Allis is really good.
So it was the other guy. Yeah, yeah, they're both. Those
guys are really good. I mean that the way they got destroyed here was
because you know, those guys were not we're not around. But but in
the end though, USC is six and twelve this year in the league,
in twelve and seventeen, did you go to the game? To these games
here? You go to the game? I've been a couple. I did
go to the l one okay, the USC And so we can't yell at
you for saying that Brownie was overrated like the rest of the kids. Oh
whoa, But I mean you have to give him some slack. He's coming
off the heart situation, but he's not as good as well. What they
saw the said is labeled him the beast. Yeah, yeah, I can
understand that, and I think you're probably fair in saying that. No reason
to boo him. No, no, no, he wasn't there to boom
So we will get you if you were there. No, I'm not.
Okay, good good answer. That's a very good answer. When I asked
Jay. You know, when I asked j are you good guy? You
know what he tells me, of course I'm a good guy. What else
is you gonna say? What else. That's the answer. He's gonna say.
My wife thinks I'm a good guy. Get her on the phone.
My kids think I'm a good guy on the phone. Okay, no,
cool. What about Washington Washington State tonight? Uh? They I think they
cover It's it's pretty close though. I think it's four yeah, four six,
six and a half. I would think that they would they would win
covering Washington. The dude's gonna get fired at the end of the year,
Hopkins. That's a team that's uh checked in. Yeah. Yeah, they're
just not any good. They're not any good. Uh. And you know,
he was supposed to be the good coach. He just didn't do much
for a long time. Well he had he had a good team, one
good team when you first got there. I think, yeah, well ten
years later, not so much. What you know you're gonna bring, You're
gonna bring up the you know, come and play the Jim Jim Beheim a
zone zone defense. You know. I don't know, man, I don't
know, but you know it's what I like is that this is gonna be
a very interesting weekend for for Arizona. They're going to have you know,
there's people waiting for them to show right that they can make this run that
people are hoping that they make. And this is where it kind of I
mean, they've been on a run, but this is kind of where it
starts. You got to you got to play really well against uh, you
know, against you U c l A, like you have to. Yeah.
Yeah. And it's early enough for people to see on the East coast
because it is UCLA, and a lot of the minds will be made up
of how good Arizona is because, like I said, they only watched the
good games. They don't want some bad games, and this is gonna be
in their mind of good games, this ESPN game. Yeah, Okay.
Richard Jefferson will be on the call with he has he done have you seen
him do? Yeah, he's done a few. He's really good. He's
really good. Yeah, because he's a he's a smart charmers man. Yeah,
funny kind of guy. Yeah. Yeah, I'm interested. I'll be
interested to watch. Did you listen You couldn't. I said you didn't listen
to Josh Josh? It was pretty good. Almost said we did. Notice
was every time you looked at him he was talking and moving his arms.
Yeah, he was talking. Yeah, he was doing the talking and right
there, this is God horse Bill when you need him. That was pretty
funny. He was doing all the time. I hope you come back.
Josh's taking over all right. Uh, that's it, Adam, nice job.
You did good well from tomorrow. Coming back tomorrow, right, yeah,
all right, I'll be back tomorrow. Now he's a he's a grizzled
veteran. He's got this. I think he's got can catch your check tomorrow.
Yeah, we'll be back to a breakdown what happens tonight. You got
women the Women at seven o'clock against the USC Pack Club Networks, and then
we'll have the we'll talk Arizona UCLA. Maybe come in with some Tommy Lloyd
postgame stuff. So be sure to come back tomorrow and we'll see what it
looks like. So see you tomorrow