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Let me get that potograph. Sports Talk

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Radio starting now. What is up
everybody? And welcome episode. What numbers

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it? Yeah, one ninety seven
of Let me if that potograph as always

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were live here on YouTube as well
as you'll be hearing us on the Pocklaves

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as well later on today. My
name, of course is Drew d h

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and joined me my awesome co host, mister Scott Rappaport. What's update?

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What's going on? Drew? I'm
asleep's all messed up. It's it's a

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weird week, man, it is
definitely a weird week. We're recording Friday

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instead of Wednesday, and you know, every it's my fault. Long beach,

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California, long trip, red Eye. Just yeah, now exactly,

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And of course, yeah, I
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saw a huge soccer tournament this weekend. I got games four and gotta be

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field set up and all that kind
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a home tournament for us, so
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minutes five minutes of my house.
But if that's what I'm looking forward to

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about the next Collecticon. This one
was in Long Beach, next one's in

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Charlotte. So yeah, why yeah? Yeah, I mean you're still like

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two hours from Charlotte, aren't you? Our hour and fifteen minutes? Oh

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okay, that's not bad. That's
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It depends on traffic. You know, it could be an hour and a

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half, but normally not our fifteen
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You're you're not that far from generally
maybe what forty five minutes from Mooresville then

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where you know what's his name that
Panthers players house blew up? Yeah?

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Yeah, I mean that dude,
that's just crazy and tragic. But aside

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from crazy and tragic. Yeah,
So last week, Iowa Dave Iowa Underscore

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Dave on Instagram, you know,
host another podcasts. He's got a blog

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that he posts out there. It's
a great blog. And he decided that

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he was going to listen to sixty
two podcast episodes from Decoration Yeah in a

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week, yeah, which is like
dedicating over eight hours a day. Two

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I'm assuming he two xed them.
I would. Well, he said there

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was some that he won and a
half x, but there were some that

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he didn't. Okay, so it's
you know, but it's still that's a

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lot of time, man, Like
I thought, it was absolutely insane,

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even if it's still over four hours
a day. I mean, I know.

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But then then he want to step
further. He took notes on every

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episode and he put those and he
decided afterwards he got done the writing article

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about it, and he put his
notes on every show at the end of

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the article, and he didn't rank
them or anything like that. He just

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put him in the order in which
he listened to the show. The notes

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on ours is number forty four,
if you guys want to be down there

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and listen to that. But there's
a lot of other good podcasts are out

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there that you know, they listened
to as well. But in his detailed

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article he brought up four points.
We were the only podcasts that were mentioned

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period in the in the main of
the article. You know, you sent

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me a screenshot over and it was
amazing. So I just want to read

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this really quick because this was awesome. And he listened to the episode where

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we talked about Wander Franco. I'm
a couple of weeks ago. That was

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during that week, no exactly,
So point number four we need to talk

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about Wander Franco. Early last week
news broke that Franco might have had an

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illegal relationship with the minor left his
team, the Tampay Rays. Well,

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the story dominated not just the hobby
cycle, but the larger sports news cycle.

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The hobby podcast let Me Get That
Potograph, hosted by Drew Herndon and

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Scott Rapport, taught a masterclass and
how to handle news like that or like

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this professionally and delicately. They spent
a decent amount of time first discussing the

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allegations and the reporting that others have
done, and they sourced everything what's known,

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what isn't known, and then once
they once that was all laid out,

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they shared informed opinions. Then finally, and they briefly and tastefully discussed

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the potential effects on Franco's card market
Take a bow, lgtp on. Fortunately,

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that's not how we as a hobby
handled it collectively. Other attempts at

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coverage not all, but some range
from paraphrasing crap from Twitter to gleaning whatever

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might have been said during a thirty
second drive by ESPN. Yeah. Worst

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of all, was this all too
common approach? Oh yeah, Hey,

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if the allegations are true, wanders
disgusting and should get punched in the face

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and thrown in jail. So let's
talk about why prospecting is hard. If

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we want to be taken seriously as
a hobby or as content creators, we

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need to follow lgtp's example when it
comes to sensitive and potentially criminal topics.

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Perspective, sources, patients, tact
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we should also talk about Franco's card
market. There's a place for that.

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But let's remember for ust to be
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point it out. It's it's my
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First off, yes, incredibly nice
comments like thank you, yeah, and

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that was great. He did initially
leave my name out of that, ye,

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but he was you know, I
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and I follow him on Instagram.
I actually followed him on Instagram,

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and then he reached out to me
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He's like, I tried to find
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It's like, all right, cool, not a big deal, but

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you know, he want up correcting
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props a day for that appreciating that
correction. But no, no, I

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wanted to. I thought that that
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that, because I want I want
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because whenever stuff like that happens,
it's never fun to talk about.

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And when you're doing a podcast that's
about collecting, to try and take something

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like that and still cover the collecting
side, it's a difficult thing to do.

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You know, it's not easy because
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than his card market and exactly we
talked before. We don't talk and prep

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much before the show. We talked
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how we wanted to move through it. You know, I'm glad that other

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people can see that, because that's
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be as sensitive as we can with
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to do. Because you can turn
on ESPN or eight hundred other shows and

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hear all of the details that you
want to hear, in all the speculation

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you want to hear, We're going
to cover tell you what we know,

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Like he said, I'm glad he
knows is sourced everything. That's the key

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recording out there, source your shit, you know. I'm just glad other

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people can see it because it's a
delicate That was one of the more uncomfortable

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things I've recorded on this show in
a long time. I was not looking

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forward to that segment, and I'm
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I did not want to talk about
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you know, it showed through on
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Well, it brings up the point
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I don't see us as content creators. I mean, although we do

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create content, I don't see us
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you know, talking, you know, just out there to get clicks and

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things like that. I see us
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and and also an opinion aspect of
things as well, because we do give

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our opinions on things, and part
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writing and opinion broadcasting, there's an
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you know, that includes sources,
That includes handling things professionally, that

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includes you know, when we do
speculate on things, we do say,

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hey, we are speculating here.
You know, this is just a guess.

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And we've got a couple of stories
coming up later today where we better

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believe we are going to be doing
some speculating. But it just goes to

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that point. I am glad,
just like you are, that somebody sees

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you know that you know, we're
trying to we're trying to bring a sense

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of professionalism to what we do.
And you know, you've got experience as

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a you know, as a beat
writer, you know for the Panthers back

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of the day, and you know
journalism background. I've got background radio production,

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you know, business and all that
I suff and I know that.

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Look, look, you can't you
can't not source. You know, you

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can't try to steal. You can't
try to steal stuff and try to make

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it your own what it actually belongs
to body else. Yeah, and this

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is not gonna fly. No,
And you can't also all go out there

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just making accusations exactly, and and
speculations because it's a look, it's a

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great way to get yourself in trouble. Oh yeah, yeah, there's other

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shows that are out there that do
that and look, every once in a

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while he gets one right, but
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of time, it's completely wrong.
And frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't been

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sued a million times, I know, but it is what it is.

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Yeah, but yeah, thank you. I would Dave for that. It's

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a really great article and absolutely lot
of really good podcasts. So if you

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do enjoy content in the hobby,
I do highly recommend checking out his his

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article. Again, if you want
to search form on socials, IOWA underscore

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Dave, you'll easily find him.
He'll be following or someone you know.

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We'll be following him and it'll be
easy to find. Before we move on

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to our first big topic, I
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want to give a big shout out
and you know, my condolences to the

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rotun To family. I'm actually very
close with the rotun To family. Most

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of you know him as Bray Wyatt, who passed away recently. I actually

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grew up my stepdad did a lot
of work with his family. I knew

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his father. I got to actually
play with Bray Wyatt and his brothers when

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they were kids. Uh got pictures
of those my mom's frantically looking for now.

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But we knew that family a little
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up with him at a recent WWW
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left the first time. Wonderful,
wonderful guy. So I know a lot

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of people are hurting from that because
he was a favorite of a lot of

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people. So if you are a
wrestling fan, and or even if you

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just knew who he was, my
condolences to those people. It's been a

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rough week for a lot of people
with stuff like that. He was a

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very influential person. So yeah,
now just curious was he Is he related

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to Jonathan Rotundo from Rodo Brakes,
I know, real last name, and

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I'm like, quite honest, I
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but it's quite possible. His father
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the day, the tax accountant wrestler
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good stint and an xt as.
They named him Husky Harris, and he

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somehow passed that name all the way
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very Wyatt, who became the fiend
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this crazy, out of control dude. But he was a visionary and very

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very different kind of this generation's Undertaker
almost. That's kind of what he was

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being built up as, even got
the seal of approval from Undertaker. He

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was headed for really big things and
tragically life cut short at thirty six due

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to a heart condition triggered by COVID. So yeah, rough one right there.

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But didn't want to spend too much
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condolences to the Rotunda family. As
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family ties to him, So hit
me a little tough this week. But

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yeah, let's move on now.
Man. We got we got a bunch

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of pretty crazy topics. The hobbies
absolutely just out of control right now,

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absolutely out of control. Let's dive
into it, man, Panini, break

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god, this one is this one
is a very much self inflicted wound.

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Oh, this is a thousand percent
self inflicted This is ridiculous. This is

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like, was beyond ridiculous. I
mean this, this actually goes back to

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the you know, talking about the
article and sourcing your material. Yes,

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because it seems that Panini settled a
lawsuit that Wildcard brought to them twenty five

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million dollars because one of the inserts
and what year was it? Was it

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twenty twenty one. In twenty twenty
they brought it back, and then it

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was in the twenty twenty one product
also, and then it came out on

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their NFT line as well as a
special inserts set and in certified. Yeah,

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well they've everywhere. They've basically completely
ripped off a hard design that Wildcard

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had used back in the nineties,
not even not not even just a little

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bit, No, not even like
remotely all right, up ripped and back

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front and back back's almost worse than
the freaking front. Like the back was

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enough to get him immediately, Like
when I saw this, I looked,

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I was like, maybe the backcar
right. Nope, well, same same

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way they numbered the cards everything.
I don't understand this at all. They

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just paid Wildcard more than Wildcard,
the original company, Triplela Incorporated with Yes,

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they're known by They just paid them
more money than they ever dreamed of

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making as a company. Yeah,
because they because they knew, you know,

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he knew that if it went to
trial, that it was going to

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wind up costing him a hell of
a lot more. And honestly, I

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think it was a smart decision to
settle it. It was a very smart

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decision because they don't need negative court
decisions and their favorite going again exactly now

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it's still look, it's still gonna
be negative. But here's the thing here,

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here's what we don't know. We
don't know who the product designer was

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that decided to put this together.
And I guarantee you that there's no way

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that like they independently thought about that
design and thought it up on their own,

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because it is literally if you look
at the front, you look at

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the back, every single design element. Now that the card we're talking about

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certified football. It is the stats
smashers insert. Now, not only that,

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not only is the front and back
identical, they took the stat smash

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er insert logo. They didn't even
change it, like like you could have

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changed like it's a it's a broken
up letters, weird looking with a little

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like boom like from a comic book
logo, like a boom background behind it.

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You could have even changed up the
points on it a little. Nah,

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just straight up took the logo off
of the card. Like I don't

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get this. How how this passed? And you know nobody noticed is beyond

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me. Well, I mean,
you've got to leave team that looks through

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this stuff too. I mean,
and we were talking. I mean they've

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got good legal representation at least the
top, but apparently the legal team in

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charge of looking at cards is just
I when I saw this, this blew

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my mind. Like yeah, Also, it was filed in February. It

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was very quiet, but it's been
out there since February. They didn't just

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settle it. It was set to
go to court this week, actually on

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Thursday, but they did settle it. But man, this one is just

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this is just ridiculous. This card
is a straight up one thousand percent Yeah,

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identical reprint of this card, but
just certified instead of wild card.

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The back is identical. They moved
the Panini logo down where the NFLPA logo

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is, but other than that,
the cards are literally the same. So

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I have questions, because I have
always got questions. Yeah, So who

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was the designer that, you know, decided to phone it in and instead

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of coming up with something brand new, you know, decided just to rip

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off the wild card design? Are
they still employed ran? Yeah? Or

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here's a big or because we're talking
about a product that came out in twenty

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twenty. Were they one of the
people that wound up over at Fanatics?

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Well, that's what I'm wondering.
Yeah, that was my first question because

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I know people now that are in
the product development arena at Panini and multiple

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people in there, and I know
that that division has been almost completely changed

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since the Mint when a lot of
people that's when all of these new hires

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went to product development. So it
would not surprise me one bit if that

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person wasn't employe at Fanatics. Now, once again, as we mentioned earlier,

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that's speculation, yes, and that's
why I said I have a I

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have a question. That's why you
know, I didn't state it as a

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fact as it as a question.
What do they I mean, what are

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they gonna do? But now here's
the here's another question. If that particular

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product designer is one of the guys
that or girls that moved over to Fanatics,

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what does Fanatics do right? If
Fanatics retain them or you know,

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and if they retain them, you
better believe that they you know, they're

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people are going to check every single
thing that they do to make sure that

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there's no you know, even down
to like the littlest pixel designs you have

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to or are they gonna say,
yeah, you screwed up or because again,

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this lawsuit was found in February.
Yeah, and it was quiet.

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I'm wondering if this was like maybe
this was like the one person from the

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product development team that didn't go over
to Fanatics or you know, maybe and

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honestly, it could be somebody that
left Panini a long time ago for very

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right. Yeah, and you know
it is somewhere else. Maybe they're a

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wild Card. Who knows, maybe
they went to wild Card as a product

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designer and say, hey, I
stole this design. You should you know.

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And again, I like, there's
no evidence to say that that's the

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case, but you know, they
could literally be anywhere. They could be

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out of that, they could be
out of the hobby. You know,

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they could be can do a design
for somebody else. But I'm curious to

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know what happened to the designer.
Yeah, because look, this is just

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straight up laziness. No, yeah, this isn't. There's no way you

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can look at this card and point
to one thing and say no that you

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know this, this shouldn't or this
is different. Like it's a blatant,

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straight up one thousand percent for rip
off. Now you're already you know,

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Fanatics needs to be And I thought
about this when all these people from Panini

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went to Fanatics. I was like, I wonder if we see some of

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the same problems that we're going to
contend that we saw, you know at

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Pannini and with the new Maryland Soccer
release, you're missing serial numbers on tons

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of cards. Now that they just
so happened to buy a printed company note

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you know that did the same bullshit
the last couple of years. You're seeing

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problems like that. I'm wondering,
you know, they might need to take

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a look at some of the people
on their team that they hired there,

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you know what I mean, this
person could be employed there. But yeah,

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but I don't think Merlin isn't as
you Merlin is the same product designers

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that have been working on it since
twenty No, not, the product is

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miners in Maryland. I'm just using
that as an example of the issues that

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they're having, you know, like
they are having a lot of issues right

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now with products that are coming out. Well, they've had issues with products

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that have been coming out of the
Italian print shop for years, dating dating

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all the way back to the twenty
release, well, dating back to like

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twenty twenty when Formula one Chrome came
out, right, that was their first

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master release from that. From that, Yeah, and that just that was

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anything serial numbered. You know,
all the cards were damaged. Yeah,

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you know they did the little the
little arm that pushes the card into the

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you know, into the stack of
gos into the Yeah, exactly it did.

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Wasn't calibrated, right, Everything that
could have gone wrong from that situation

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did go wrong. And they've slowly
been fixing those things. Yeah. And

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then look, we've seen we've seen
other products with tops missing serial numbers too.

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There, and we've we've seen some
like there's a TOPS Chrome really it's

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the top score or Bollman Chronic where
certain parallels. Yeah, there's there's a

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certain player that has a parallel.
It's like I think it's like the Blue

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pair where every card has the same
serial number to one fifty. Now there's

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still actually not just Jim. It
affected like seven or eight players and five

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or six serial numbers, and then
it was all the same thing. They

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all had like one oh two out
of one fifty or something, every single

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one oh right Now there's still only
one hundred and fifty of them, right,

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but there's not like one out of
one fifty two out of one fifty

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three. Yeah, it's just yeah, I mean that look, those are

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those are things that should have been
caught. Yeah, but it's yeah,

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So I'm curious as to what happens
with this now this Fanatics. Now,

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I understand Pannini's settling to avoid I
mean, you don't, like I said

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earlier, you don't want any negative
you know, court decisions coming down in

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your favor when you're trying to fight
off a giant like Fanatics and ys like

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this. But a settlement is still
going to be obviously public record, it's

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still gonna be in the system in
a way that this was settled. So

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do you think Fanatics, you know, uses this in a way or does

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this hurt Panini in their other lawsuits
that they have, because I actually don't.

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I don't think it does, because
this is the settlement. Is Panini

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taking responsibility for it. I'm saying, look, guys, we're sorry,

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we plucked up. Yeah, we
fucked up, we missed it. Here's

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a payment to take care of that. We're not going to wait for a

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you know, for a judge or
a jury to tell us that we have

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to pay you. And they probably
told Wildcard privately what happened to that designer

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of you know and Jed. Look, you know, guys were we apologize

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profusely. Here's money, which is
well, I think that's twenty five million

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dollars is well above what Panini made, you know, in profit on their

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card. So god, yeah,
you know, on that on that subset.

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So I think that the I think
it was you know, like I

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said, I think it was a
good move, and I don't think it's

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I don't think it's gonna hurt him
with any of the lawsuits. You know.

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One thing I did know, you
know, it went to the trustee

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of Triple A Wildcard, the original
company. Wild Card is back. But

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from my understanding when I spoke with
the people at Wildcard in person two years

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ago at the National and Atlantic City
when they were doing their debut relaunch,

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and we talked about it on this
show after the National, that I thought

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that was a father's son deal from
the original owners. So I don't know

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if possibly it was one of the
original owners and this trustee someone else.

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So I don't know if the company
that's out now as Wildcard is are the

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people that actually got this settlement or
not. But and I'm not saying,

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like I said, they've probably made
more than the Wildcard name has even since

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it's resurgent two ever made with this
one card right here. Yeah, and

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I'm not I'm not sure about that
either whether or not the the trustee is

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the original owner, you know,
or if it's the current owner, or

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if it's a situation like with Leaf
where they had buying yeah, you know,

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where they bought the name. I'm
not entirely sure what its structure is,

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but it would make sense that it
would, you know, the settlement

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would wind up going to the original
owner because yeah, it went to the

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trustee a triple A. I don't
know who that was. And that was

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a because again, that design was
done during the original iteration of the company

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back in the nineties. They were
released in I believe the originals were ninety

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two to ninety four, okay,
wild Card Football. They were only in

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there for a couple of years,
just like Certified brought them back as a

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case hit or a case hit in
twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, Certified

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Football wild Cards originals were around ninety
two to ninety four, okay, And

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I'm curious as to what's going to
happen with the now that it's out there

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and it's well known, because again, when the lawsuit was initially fouled,

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nobody really knew about it. It
was done quietly. It was also fouled

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under trip La, so no one
saw its name. Put two and two

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together, like yeah, and yeah, that makes sense. But I'm curious

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as to what's going to happen to
those card values now for the Panini versions,

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because it's something that anything scandalous,
it always it always winds up popping

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the value on it. So I
kind of wish I had known about this,

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like two three weeks ago, I
started to start picking a couple of

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those up. It obviously secondary market
sales and all that kind of stuff that

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has nothing to do with because Pennini
doesn't make any money on that. That

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obviously right, that kind of money
doesn't isn't part of the lawsuit or anything

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like that. But another one just
to go down in history. It would

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actually be really cool to get a
you know, an original and a Panini

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yeah off, you know, just
to keep side by side. Now,

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see if you get to twenty twenty
one, they actually change the design up

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some they changed They kept this like
I was saying before, they kept the

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similar elements, but tweaked it enough
so it's a completely different looking car.

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Now. The backs they tweaked a
little bit, But the nineteen twenty twenty

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ones are the ones that are straight
up identical, and looking at them now,

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at least the new ones that are
listed, they're selling decent. They're

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not, you know, anything super
expensive or anything. But if you look

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right now, the amount that have
sold in the last day is quite impressive

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to what's been sold in the past. Yeah, the attention is coming on

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them a little bit. And one
of the certified Peyton's got a best offer

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of over fifty bucks and Joe Burrow
sold today for ninety. It looks like

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so, you know, it looks
like that. I have a feeling that

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these are going to be some cards
that you're going to see graded a little

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bit more. Yeah, the eventually
one of those, like you said,

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like, I always think back to
the Rodman that had Jordan in it from

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content few years back. That card
still today now granted that that was a

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rare instance that they actually did go
back and pull the card from packs,

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so all of the second and third
runs didn't have the Rodman in it.

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Only the first run did and not
many times do they do that nowadays or

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do they catch it in time before
those runs are done. But this kind

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of reminds me of a card like
that which has a very big, you

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know cult following back around the job. A rent card with eight hundred different

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celebrities in the background. I think
you and me are in there somewhere is

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the Mark the Mark Jackson with Menendez
brothers, and they're gonna actually more value

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now than they did before. The
one that I'm actually surprised doesn't carry a

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massive premium, especially from that set. Actually I don't even because I got

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a hat set on topic same year
as the Mark Jackson was the Sam Vincent

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Yeah, that has Michael Jordan's.
The only card that has Michael Jordan were

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number twelve, Yeah, and that
was due to his jersey being stolen for

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the game and having to wear a
back of jersey and stuff like that.

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But that I'm actually surprised that the
Jordan collectors don't go nuts for me neither.

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No, I will say there's a
lot that gets submitted for grading.

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At least they're gem meant because I
process a ton of those cards that that's

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one of probably after the Jordan and
the Mark Jackson. That's probably the third

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highest one that I get from that
set that subbed or at least that I've

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processed the millions and millions that I've
done. So people do. But yeah,

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I'm surprised it doesn't get it more
love than it than the other cards.

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Yeah, and they said, look
the PSA ten self for a decent

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amount. I picked up a PSA
nine for like twenty bucks just because I

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wanted one in my collection and I
didn't have a card, So right,

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you know, it just it makes
it makes it nice. So but yeah,

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so we'll follow keep you updated on
the Panini lawsuit. But Panini's settling

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twenty five million dollars with Wild Card
or Triple A Incorporated's trustee over twenty twenty

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twenty twenty one certified stats Smasher's case
hit inserts and thank you to everybody watching

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live on YouTube. Make sure drop
your questions and comments down below. We

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will get to him at the end
of the show today. But Scott,

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we were talking about speculation early.
Oh, yeah, and this entire your

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next segment is pure speculation. The
entire thing maculation. So I was going

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through the tops Chrome cards that I
have because I wanted to pull I'd already

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pulled the Otani's there, already pulled
the Acunias, right, but the MVP

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race in the National League is heating
up a little bit more, so I

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wanted to go through and pull out
the Freddie Freeman's, the Matt Olsen's,

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the mookie Bets. And I noticed
something. Yeah, I'm glad you did

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now. So I did a case
at the National I've done probably ten blasters

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00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.119
in addition to that, and the
blasters are hit or miss because again,

407
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:26.640
you're not doing quantity, You're limited
number of packs things like that, and

408
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:30.039
I'm not talking about refractors. I'm
strictly talking about base I noticed something.

409
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.240
So I've got like nine or ten
o Kunias, nine or ten Otanies that

410
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:40.240
have come from all the rips.
But when I go back through with the

411
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:45.519
Olsens, the Freeman's, the mookie
Bets, the guys that were MVP favorites

412
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.359
to start the year or when Chrome
was being yeah, I have like three

413
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:52.519
mookie bets. I have none like
four, Freddie, Well, you haven't

414
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.039
opened the quantity that I've opened,
though, I've opened a lot. Though

415
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:57.400
in a spect look, if I'm
opening a case, I think, like

416
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:02.359
probably I think six or seven of
the ten Otani's and Okunias that I've got

417
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.759
came out of the case, right, so it lay. I understand,

418
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.599
you know, the way things pack
out and things like that, but you

419
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.400
would you would think that they would
be within one or two of each one.

420
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.880
But no, I've got three Mookie
Bets. I've got like four Matt

421
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:21.759
Olson's. Yeah, three Freddie Freeman's. Are they short printed? I absolutely

422
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.680
think they are? And did they
knowing like because they get tops announced before

423
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:30.599
the product came out that hey we're
bringing back the MVP promotion. And I

424
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.440
don't know why if they did short
print those guys, I don't know why

425
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.640
they didn't short print Otani. I
don't. I don't either. I understand

426
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.200
a Kuna, yeah, you know, because again he wasn't an MVP favorite

427
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:44.440
going into the season and going into
when they you know, started doing product

428
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.000
design and printing and things like that. But knowing that they were going to

429
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:52.440
bring back the MVP buyback program,
did they short print the favorites, if

430
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.519
you want my opinion, one thousand
percent. Yes, I noticed this after

431
00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:02.359
now I personally haven't opened up case, but I've been around besides someone like

432
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:07.240
Hugh, like about five other people
and watched them open jumbo cases cases.

433
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.000
I've opened well over a case of
both Mega's blast Ors, any retail coalation

434
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.480
you can think of, I've literally
opened hundreds of those boxes. I have

435
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:19.759
no Fred Freeman's, no movie bets, and the Mettlesome. I don't have

436
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:25.359
those cards. They don't exist and
I can't find them. And I've seen

437
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:27.359
multiple other people say the same thing. When you brought this up to me,

438
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:32.279
I laughed because I was like,
I had this conversation literally two weeks

439
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:36.119
ago with somebody saying that I can't
find any of the MVP candidates in base

440
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.799
I one hundred percent think they're short
printed. I can't even find them in

441
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:45.079
retail parallels where I've pulled the multiple
Acunas, multiple Otanis, all of that,

442
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.319
in the Sepias, the X fractors
or fractors, all of it.

443
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.279
I one hundred percent think that,
at least when it comes to the National

444
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:57.519
League favorites one thousand percent, those
guys or either not in the first run

445
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:02.319
and they're coming out later and they're
just going to be an every damn pack

446
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:07.839
around. But I absolutely think that
these maybe not to the extent of being

447
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.640
called a short print, yeah,
are they that low? But yes,

448
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:17.200
I do absolutely think they printed less
of those cards than they did the rest

449
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:21.039
of the base set. Yeah.
Well, I mean having it being a

450
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:23.079
you know, something we're you know, called a short print, you know,

451
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:26.920
like an image variation or things like
that. You know, definitely not

452
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.960
that not that short no, you
know, but again, but I do

453
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:34.160
absolutely think that they were printed less. And is it going to come back

454
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.640
to bite them in the ass if
it winds up being Otani and Akunya.

455
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.599
I really hope it's a Kanya and
a Kunya. I hope of someone else

456
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.400
that wasn't short printed. I mean, I think a Kunia made a pretty

457
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:48.640
big statement last night, breaking some
records with that and getting and getting married.

458
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.960
Yeah, and getting married a pretty
good way to cap off your at

459
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.960
the end of your marriage day,
you know, your wedding day, boom

460
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.839
grand slam to win the game.
Yeah, that was a hurried That was

461
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.599
a hurried marriage. ESPN did an
article about that. They posted that today

462
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.599
and it's a great story. It
is. Yeah, nothing illegal, nothing,

463
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.599
you know, no, yeah,
no, it's just a feel good

464
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.039
story. Yes, well no,
no, no, they I mean they

465
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:17.559
did get married quickly. So his
wife would you know, she was staying

466
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:21.039
in the country, Yeah, because
she had some visa issues, would have

467
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:22.880
had to go back to Venezuela with
you know, and probably take the kids

468
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.720
with and they wouldn't have been with
him during the playoff run things like that.

469
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.920
But they've been together for years,
they have you know, they've got

470
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:32.400
two kids together, they've been living
here and things like that. She just

471
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.440
would have had to go home for
three months, right, and you know

472
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.759
he doesn't want to deal with that, right, I mean, you don't

473
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:40.519
want to deal with that when you're
trying to go through a pennant race too,

474
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.440
you know, take care of exactly. So, you know, and

475
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.119
I fully believe that they intended to
get married at some point anyway that In

476
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.119
fact, I think that their wedding
scheduled for after the season was over or

477
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.920
next year or something like that.
So it's not yeah, it's not like

478
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:53.240
it was a you know, hey, you need a green card, come

479
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.000
on and I'll marry it. Today, it wasn't like that at all,

480
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:59.799
but ESPND to great article on that. So I'm curious as to what's gonna

481
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:01.440
happen with that and whether or not, Yeah, you know, TOPS actually

482
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.440
comes out and says, yeah,
we kind of did short you know a

483
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.960
couple of these guys you know,
for that, and yeah, I don't

484
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:13.119
blame them. No I don't either. I don't either. Now, one

485
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:16.200
thing I am curious about is while
we stick to the tops and the tops

486
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.079
chrome, and I think one thing
I wanted to talk to him I didn't

487
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.279
even think about till now, and
that's the taco fractor. Okay, while

488
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:27.079
we're talking about the short prints,
I want to bring Macko tacos even though

489
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:31.720
it's Friday, not Tuesday. So
someone posted this the other day. All

490
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:36.160
right, we've seen the taco fractors, we've seen Tops say that you need

491
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.759
to be following along because there's gonna
be a major announcement regarding these cards.

492
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:45.319
Someone pulled one the other day that
is a wild card. While we talk

493
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:50.839
about wild card, Yes, it's
literally the taco fractor design with no player

494
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:55.319
on it. It just says wild
card and it's card number three hundred in

495
00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:00.160
the set. Uh yes, it's
well considering they only did they only made

496
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:06.440
two hundred of the two hundred and
twenty cards as Taco Frackers. This one

497
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:10.079
is for some reason, number three
hundred. It is it. All it

498
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:15.440
says on the front is wild card
and then on the back it has the

499
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:20.759
same stuff. It has just like
general information about the Taco Fractors set.

500
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:27.519
And so they haven't released what the
bonus is for the Taco Fracktor yet yet.

501
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:31.400
These cards are selling for an absurd
amount of money right now. They

502
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.519
kind of need to announce this ahead
of time, I think, all right,

503
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:39.839
rather en late sooner rather because it
is a terrible look. It's card

504
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:44.920
for selling for a lot of money. If this ends up being not an

505
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:51.359
awesome, awesome surprise, then a
lot of people are really wasting a lot

506
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:53.640
of money. These cards are selling
for absurd amount. All right. Here's

507
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:58.440
my thought, and I like,
I just thought about this. I kind

508
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.480
of put two and two together.
You know how they do the Taco bell

509
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:04.720
promotion usually during the World Series sometimes
of playoffs, where you know, swipe

510
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.119
a bag une taco. I'm wondering
if it's going to have something to do

511
00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:15.599
with that, where if a specific
player steals a base during a given game.

512
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:21.559
If you have that Taco fractor one
of the five, maybe you get

513
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.519
tacos for a like tacos for a
year, the tacos for life from Taco

514
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:31.159
Bell or something like that, and
the wild card one at that point would

515
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:37.320
become well, it would be ridiculously
valuable. Well, there has to be

516
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:45.199
has to be an insanely short printed
card because it's the first one we've seen.

517
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:50.679
Obviously there's only five. Yeah,
we haven't seen we haven't seen taco

518
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:54.400
fractors of every player in the market
yet, so you know, so obviously

519
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:58.639
there's that. But obviously and obviously
if it was hitting a break or something

520
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:00.639
like that, I guess they'd have
to random at off to the entire break,

521
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:02.280
you know, because it was a
wild card or something like that.

522
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.679
But it's very possible that they you
know, there's five wild you know,

523
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.440
maybe there's five wild cards. There's
five of the two hundred players, and

524
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.159
I'm willing to bet it's going to
have something to do with if they steal

525
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.400
a base during the World Series or
something like that, then you know,

526
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:22.440
you get some massive thing from Taco
Bell. The question is will that person

527
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.320
have to give up the card in
order to receive the prize, or will

528
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:30.480
they get a like a replacement card
with a slightly different design in exchange for

529
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:36.239
that, or are they gonna like
serial It'll put like a little serial number

530
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.760
stamp on it and send it back
that says it's been redeemed or something,

531
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.760
you know, something like that.
That's That's what I'm curious about. But

532
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.480
I think that I think that's probably
going to be what the promotion is.

533
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.760
I could I could see that.
I have a feeling now I think about

534
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:54.039
it. You know, World Series
playoff runs, something like that could make

535
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:59.480
sense. But we'll see. I
was curious that I saw the wild card

536
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:00.719
pop up, and I was like, huh, this kind of throws a

537
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:07.119
new little wrinkle into the well Fractors
set unless they're using the wild card to

538
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:12.800
replace any player that doesn't have a
Taco fractor. All right, sure,

539
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.679
you know, so if one of
the rookies, you know that isn't in

540
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.440
Chrome, that doesn't have a Taco
Fractor because you know they came up in

541
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:22.199
August or whatever, and you know
they wind up at the plane in the

542
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.119
World Series if they steal a bag, yeah, you know, is that

543
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:29.679
where the wild card comes into play. Yeah, or does it mean that

544
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.400
the wild card is in play for
literally any player period, whether they have

545
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:36.800
a Taco Fractor or not. And
I guess we're gonna have to wait for

546
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:42.440
Tops to come out with what this
is and what the rules are, right,

547
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.119
Yeah, but I think they need
to do it sooner than later.

548
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.119
Personally, it's just me. I'm
seeing a lot of people spend a lot

549
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:51.000
of money on these cards. Don't
want a whole bunch of people to get

550
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:55.159
burned by something that could be very
underwhelming. I hope it's you know,

551
00:36:55.239 --> 00:37:00.719
I hope it's something worthwhile because these
cards are definitely getting act up compared.

552
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.079
I mean, they're selling for more
than a lot of other cards, number

553
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.119
to five of players. People are
putting a decent amount of money in this

554
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.039
thinking it's going to be something big, So I, you know, I

555
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.960
just hope people are getting their money's
worth. Yeah, no, I would

556
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.800
agree, And speaking of money's worth, yes, for those of you listening

557
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:22.159
on the podcast, we need some
of that. So yeah, we'll be

558
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.559
back after this there. Yeah,
all right, welcome back, everybody,

559
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.719
Episode one hundred and ninety seven of
Let Me Get That podograph. Unless you're

560
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:36.000
watching on YouTube, then you're watching
this really weird segue. But welcome back

561
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:40.880
everybody on the audio platform. So
Scott Man talked about Panini, we talked

562
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:45.559
about Tops earlier in the show.
Now we got a segue a little bit

563
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.840
over to a company we don't talk
much about, you know, often,

564
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:54.119
at least when it comes controversy things
like that. But a couple of changes

565
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:59.079
in the works, and one's a
big one. Yep, Brian Gray out

566
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:04.800
at Leaf. Yes, like literally
a couple hours after we released last week's

567
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:10.320
episode, this happened. Yeah,
and nobody is really sure why. Well,

568
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:15.760
yeah, some people know why.
Some people just can't talk about why.

569
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:22.400
But Leaf put out a release saying
Brian has stepped down as CEO of

570
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.960
the company. Supposedly they were looking
for you know, they were gonna say

571
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:30.480
they were gonna announce his replacement.
And a couple of days later, yes,

572
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:35.960
uh, sure enough announced his replacement, Kevin crap what's his last name,

573
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.480
O'Neil, O'Neill. Thank you,
Kevin O'Neil. I knew it was

574
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:44.480
an oh something I just remember,
you know, very familiar name. Yeah,

575
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:47.480
we just talked about him a little
while ago when he moved positions from

576
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:52.719
a southern hobby to Beckett. Yeah, it works with tops before. I

577
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.400
mean, this dude's been as dude's
been in the very big positions in the

578
00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:01.719
hobby for a very long time,
so it comes. It's a name that

579
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:07.519
I didn't expect to hear. No, but it's a name that makes sense.

580
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:12.119
Well, well, it makes sense
to me that it's someone that Brian

581
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:16.039
gret because Brian did hand pick the
person to replace him. It would make

582
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:22.480
sense to me that Brian would pick
somebody like Kevin exactly, especially considering Leaf's

583
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.079
ties with Beckett. Yes, you
know, they use Beckett for a lot

584
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:29.000
of their authentication, a lot of
their slabbing, you know, for the

585
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.880
products that they you know that aren't
buybacks and things like that. They're not

586
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:37.880
that far from each other office wise, you know, no, exactly,

587
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:39.840
And and Kevin's a guy that it
really has been known in the hobby for

588
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.119
a long time. So that brings
up a lot of well questions, Yeah,

589
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.320
you know what's going to happen going
forward? You know, is Leaf

590
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.559
going to be making any major changes
as far as products, product design?

591
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:58.199
Are they positioning themselves to I don't
know, try to jump in the fray

592
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:02.079
if you know, for some reason
the Penninian fanatics lawsuits, you know,

593
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.280
turn out the way and all of
a sudden, these contracts have to go

594
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:09.000
out for bids and you know,
things like that. But then it also

595
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:14.400
brings up what's gonna happen at Beckett? Yeah, because again they just uh,

596
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.159
you know, they made some changes
a couple of weeks ago. Jeremy

597
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:20.960
Murray is out, yeah as president
of the company. I mean, look,

598
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:22.119
Beckett, you know, took a
dive during the pandemic and all that

599
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.079
kind of stuff, and you know, but the realities Jeremy really him and

600
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:30.559
Steve grad really helped keep that company
afloat. Are you kidding me? You

601
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.159
know, they wouldn't be here,
you know if it weren't for those two.

602
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:37.000
Gether I'm just gonna say that that's
a dumb escapeboat firing ever year.

603
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.320
But you know, keep going,
oh yeah, hands down. But what

604
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:43.880
happens there because again, Kevin just
became CEO a couple of months ago,

605
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.559
I know, I know, are
the two companies I mean, like we

606
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:52.639
didn't hear anything from Beckett about him
leaving. No, is he going to

607
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:58.440
try to do two roles. I
have a feeling that that's exactly what's going

608
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:04.039
on. I have a feeling that
the implementation of Leaf into into and that's

609
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:07.440
where I was going. That's where
I was going with it, was are

610
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.239
the two companies going to merge?
I have a feeling I'm very very,

611
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:16.559
very very confident that Southern Hobby,
Beckett Leaf all that stuff with Southern Hobby,

612
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:22.679
especially getting pushed out of Fanatics,
like just you know, Fanatics isn't

613
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:29.599
doing distribution and stuff through them.
Eventually they're phasing that stuff out. They

614
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.159
not A lot of people might not
know that, but they are with Southern

615
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:37.199
Hobby, who's one of the bigger
distributors besides maybe Peach Tree in the War

616
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:43.239
in the Country. You know,
I see that as Beckett kind of taking

617
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:46.719
in multiple different roles, taking in
probably Southern Hobby in a way, since

618
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:51.960
they're already basically under the same umbrella. Yeah, kind of see them pulling

619
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.079
Leaf into this portfolio. That's where
I see this going. And that's also

620
00:41:55.159 --> 00:42:00.280
a reason that I think probably contributed
to Brian not wanting to be there.

621
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:02.199
Now. I you know, I'm
not We're not going to get too much

622
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:07.360
into Brian's reasoning and the reasoning behind
this change. We're gonna focus on the

623
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:14.159
change. But I do think that
I think that this is happening. I

624
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.360
think that Beckett and Leaf are doing
some type of partnership, some type of

625
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:22.559
something, and I think this is
the first step towards it. And again

626
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.800
speculation, but you know, at
the same time, it makes sense.

627
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.119
Well, like you said, Beckett
hasn't said anything about it, and it's

628
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.719
literally one of their CEOs. He's
moving over to leave. He was just

629
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.079
brought in there work with Southern Hobby
before. Now, I do think we

630
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:42.760
see a lot of changes at Leaf. I do I think that, you

631
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:45.840
know, Brian was a very big
risk taker. Brian was very loud,

632
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:50.800
you know, he was very out
there. I do think you're gonna see

633
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.920
it a lot different version of Leaf
going forward. Now. Whether that's a

634
00:42:54.920 --> 00:43:00.440
good thing or a bad thing,
I don't know. And whether that influnces

635
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:05.199
from Beckett or not, I don't
know. But something tells me that putting

636
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:10.320
him in place there was almost a
strategic move to start some type of a

637
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:16.599
major agreement or partnership with them.
As you look at the landscape of the

638
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:22.239
hobby right now, and everything's kind
of getting condensed with Fanatics and a couple

639
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.320
other companies that it's kind of been
like you said before, because you know,

640
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:29.159
they had a down year, They've
kind of been left out of everything.

641
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:34.039
They're kind of a third or fourth
thought right now. I think this

642
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.639
is probably going to be one of
their ways to I don't know, cause

643
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:42.760
some commotion, shake it up a
little bit and try and do something with

644
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:45.679
the resources that they have left.
Because it doesn't look like any big deal

645
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:50.320
or anything it's going to be struck
with Fanatics or otherwise. I think it

646
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.880
already would have been done. And
so I think I think they're looking at

647
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.320
stuff like this and it makes sense. Yeah, no, I would agree.

648
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.719
We'll see what happens with it.
Yeah, you know, coming out

649
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:05.400
So yeah, Brian Gray out at
Leaf and you know what was crazy.

650
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.639
He was out like two or three
days before. It was like twelfth anniversary

651
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:13.679
at the company or thirteenth year at
the company. It's really weird. Yeah,

652
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:15.840
But riding off into the sunset at
Leave. Now a lot of people

653
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.920
are speculating that Brian Gray is going
to Fanatics. I would put a lot

654
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:22.719
of money against that. Yeah,
I would, I would too, knowing

655
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:28.559
all of my money if I had
knowing knowing Brian and you know, so,

656
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:31.639
I can't see him going to Fanatics
mean either, and not after the

657
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:35.760
conversation I had with him on the
phone after I found this news out.

658
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.519
Yeah he was, And honestly,
I don't think. I don't think he's

659
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:44.239
going to end up with one of
the major card manufacturers. And however,

660
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:49.119
however, if he were too,
I would actually put my money on upper

661
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:51.960
Deck me too. Yep, yeah, that would be the one. Any

662
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.679
company would be up there exactly.
I can't see him going to Panini,

663
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:58.840
can't see him going to Fanatics.
Upper Deck would be where I would put

664
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:00.320
my bets. But even that,
I still think it's a long shot.

665
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:05.400
Yeah, my money is on.
We're gonna see him in with something new.

666
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.039
I don't think you're done. You're
not done zeeing Brian Gray in the

667
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:10.960
hobby. I can tell you that
much. He's not gonna disappear from this

668
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.280
industry whatsoever. I think you're gonna
see him come up with something new,

669
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:20.639
something different. And you know,
I think it was just that time,

670
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.159
you know, like I said,
Like we said before, a lot of

671
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:25.639
people know some of the inner workings
and everything that was going on, but

672
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:31.800
Brian Gray out as Leap CEO Kevin
O'Neal in, and what the hell does

673
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:37.119
that mean for Beckett and Leaf?
And like, I think at least there's

674
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.239
a partnership coming. Yeah, I
think news on that front. Yeah exactly.

675
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:42.840
Well, well, we'll let you
know as soon as we do.

676
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:45.880
But all right, one final segment
before we get out of here. It

677
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:50.000
is September one, early in the
month. Let's take a look at the

678
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.679
release calendar for we got coming up
September. Now, see, I didn't.

679
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.920
We decided to do this segment last
minute while you pull it up,

680
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.719
So I honestly haven't looked at the
really state calendar this month. We'll see.

681
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:02.599
I like doing it for me.
I like doing it when I've already

682
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:05.039
already got it, pulled it up, had it, you know, I

683
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.039
had it pulled up to the entire
show. But I actually like I like

684
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.480
going through when you don't look at
it because you get a legit reaction Audia

685
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.800
as to what's excited. You know
what's exciting. All right, So coming

686
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:21.639
out today, we've got Donner's Elite
Football. We've got twenty two, twenty

687
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:25.639
three Pannini Mosaic basketball. Did you
say Donners Football today? Yeah, twenty

688
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:30.400
twenty three Donner's Elite Football. Oh, elite, okay, yeah, Elite,

689
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.559
Donner's Elite. Yeah. I mean
it should be called Panini Elite,

690
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:36.159
but they kept the Donners. Yeah, all right. Also coming out today,

691
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.679
and this one's actually exciting, not
sports related, Tops Stranger Things Season

692
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:45.719
four on the sixth. Next week
we've got Spectra Basketball. We also have

693
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:52.079
tops UEFA Club Competition's finest soccer product, which again that used to be called

694
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:57.719
Champions League Finest. Now it's club
competition and I really hate that they had

695
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:01.199
to rename that. Let's see what
else we got here, uh, twenty

696
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:07.159
twenty three Immaculate Baseballs. Coming out
on the eighth. We've got so Big

697
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:12.920
one, real big one. September
thirteenth, Bowman Chrome Baseball own shelves bringing

698
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.159
up Leaf follows so on the same
day, we also have Signature Series Baseball,

699
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:21.719
as well as Pennyy plates and patches
football and something called Pieces of the

700
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.960
Past seven Year Collection Series two.
I have no idea what it is,

701
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:29.280
and it looked at that that's the
historical Oh yes, that's right, we'll

702
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:31.920
skip we'll skip over that one.
Twenty one twenty two Upper Premier Hockey What

703
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:37.760
year twenty one, twenty two?
Yeah, sorry, I just like laughing

704
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:42.199
at it well and signed along the
lines with de layed upper Deck also the

705
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:45.800
same day, twenty one, twenty
two Ultimate Collection Hockey and for you wrestling

706
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:51.800
fans, twenty twenty two Upper Deck
a E w Allure, which is nice.

707
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.559
Good w is getting the A lure
treatment like that. Fifteenth We've got

708
00:47:54.639 --> 00:48:06.719
Leaf Exotic Football Chronicles UFC comes out
on the twenty twentieth. Contenders Optic Basketball

709
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:10.480
from the twenty two twenty three season
on the twentieth as well, twenty twenty

710
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:16.599
two Flawless Football as well on the
same day, and let's see here twenty

711
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:22.800
twenty three Mosaic Football Wow that day
as well again. Another twenty twenty three

712
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.760
products, Select Baseball on the twenty
second. Also on the twenty second,

713
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.559
going outside of sports, uh,
Pokemon Scarlett and Violet one fifty one is

714
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:34.119
coming out on the twenty second.
One of my favorite products of the year

715
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:37.360
on the twenty second, Allen Ginter
Baseball. Yeah, although it's obviously there's

716
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:42.360
other non baseball in there. Another
one I'm excited about on the twenty seventh,

717
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.400
we have tops, Chrome McDonald's All
American from the twenty three seasons,

718
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:51.719
Brownie James Autos. They just pre
give those the other day exactly, so

719
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:53.800
that that one I'm excited to see. And then we've got a bunch of

720
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:58.199
stuff that's still to be determined on
dates. Tops Major League Soccer is supposed

721
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.800
to be coming out, and again
I think that was the because they wanted

722
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:05.559
to get messy in there. We've
got some twenty two twenty three season hockey.

723
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:09.000
It looks like Upper Deck is bringing
back Parker's Champions as well as sp

724
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:15.599
game used in SPX okay, and
then twenty twenty three Marvel Upper Deck Marvel

725
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.159
Premiere is another one as well as
a Upper Deck Marvel anime. But there's

726
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:24.480
another Upper Deck one that I saw
earlier in the sub early in the list

727
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:30.920
the ones that I'm most the big
month for releases with Allen and Ginter,

728
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:35.079
I'm praying that they helped me finish
my Gaslight Anthem set. That's right here

729
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.800
there you go in. There's only
two members left. Come on, guys,

730
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.679
put them in this year, but
or at least one this year and

731
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:44.960
one next year and one next year. Yeah, it's been one every year.

732
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:49.159
But I'm hoping that they can finish
that set because I want to finish

733
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:53.440
it. But yeah, Alan Ginter, Flawless Contenders, Optic Basketball. It's

734
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:57.679
a lot of big releases there,
man, and MLS. If it comes

735
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.920
out and has messy I mean ship. Yeah. But here's here's gonna this

736
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.519
is gonna be sneaking, This is
gonna be big. But all you gaming

737
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:09.079
guys out there, I believe it's
the twenty seventh, twenty seventh Blizzard Upperdecks,

738
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:13.880
Blizzard Legacy Collection. Yeah, it's
coming out and it's gonna have cards

739
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:20.000
from Diablo, World of Warcraft,
StarCraft Overwatch, Warcraft, a bunch of

740
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.440
other gaming cards. And I was
looking at the CellSheet on this actually really

741
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.400
cool looking stuff. Not a gaming
guy, but I've got a feeling that's

742
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:30.719
gonna be that's gonna be a huge
product. Yeah. Oh it's speaking of

743
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:35.599
huge products. Also, Disney's Lord
Kana is also hitting shelves, retail shelves

744
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:37.639
this week. It's been out.
You've been able to get box this sum

745
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:44.159
before, but Lord Kana is hitting
retail stores this week. However, retail

746
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:45.599
stores, we're told, and I'm
gonna tell you this now, to put

747
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:49.920
it out, but do not be
prepared to put it out again. So

748
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.519
I don't know the multiple printings.
I have a feeling if I'm Disney,

749
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:57.280
I don't see Disney doing anything very
limited. So I have a feeling you're

750
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.599
gonna have a million runs of this
eventually, but I think they're gonna slow

751
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:05.440
roll it so it doesn't feel as
flooded at once. But Lorcana is out

752
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:08.440
also, But that's a pretty solid
month for releases, man, I mean

753
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:14.639
Elite football in those football releases,
I'm telling you we're gonna and we're gonna

754
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:17.920
focus a lot next week on football
and a couple of sales and some other

755
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:21.840
stuff that we want to discuss.
And being at the season is going to

756
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.480
be kicking off, we'll be focusing
a lot on football next week. But

757
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:30.320
those products like Elite and things like
that, you really need to keep an

758
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:35.199
eye on them, especially for this
year, because those maybe, depending on

759
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.920
what happens with you know, the
NFLPA laws. Who thinks like that,

760
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.079
those maybe the only products that end
up getting released in twenty twenty three.

761
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:46.360
Yeah, because the injunction that Panini
filed was shot down, So so every

762
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:50.119
now, if you guys didn't know
that. As an update, Yes,

763
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:53.880
the injunction Panini filed to stop this
from happening was shot down, so they

764
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:59.440
are moving forward with the Players Association
given the rights to Tops immediately. Panini

765
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:05.599
is ignored everything and continuing to release
products and continuing to try and solicit to

766
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.360
stories and vendors, although no new
products have been paid for it yet.

767
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:16.320
Elite is the last product that hobby
shops are anywhere have already pre ordered and

768
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:22.480
paid for that they're getting. So
yeah, I think that maybe why Panini

769
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:24.519
has said, screw it, let's
release this, because they've already got the

770
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:30.039
money for it, and if they're
smart, they'll just put that money aside

771
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:35.320
just inde well, just in case, you know, they wind up losing

772
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:37.159
you know, their lawsuit, because
that money is going to wind up having

773
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.920
a transfer as well, because they
obviously weren't supposed to release any macro stuff.

774
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.639
So keep an eye on that.
That that's going to be a very

775
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:47.719
interesting product to watch this year.
Yep, you know, because again that

776
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:52.880
maybe the only, maybe it's last
product. Yeah, but I've got a

777
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.800
feeling if Panini's ignoring it, the
TOPS is going to ignore it as well

778
00:52:55.840 --> 00:53:01.280
and start printing cards and now all
of a sudden, you're gonna see a

779
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:07.119
very interesting year. Oh where is
it gonna be? A very football?

780
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:12.199
Is gonna be very interesting on the
card side of things, and not one

781
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:15.519
person on the field is going to
have to do anything worthwhile for a lot

782
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:19.400
of eyes and attention to be on
it. Well, that was gonna be

783
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:22.679
the case anyway, because so many
people speculate about all of the you know,

784
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:24.239
players that are going to make it
talk about We'll talk about that next

785
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:28.639
week though, No on that note, stat I think it's probably a good

786
00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:30.719
time to wrap up this week show. What do you think? I agree?

787
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.719
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788
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:38.920
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789
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790
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791
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792
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.199
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793
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:59.800
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794
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795
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.800
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796
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797
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:14.960
up the TikTok tack or what it
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798
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:17.280
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799
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:21.800
some really cool stuff on. But
yeah, until next week. You guys

800
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:25.199
know the deal. Keep ripping those
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