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Welcome back, everyone to a new
episode of You Were Wrong with Molly Hemingway

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and David Harsani. Just a reminder, if you'd like to email the show,

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please do so at radio at the
Federalist dot com. We'd love to

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get your emails. Moll, I
got to tell you I'm a little rattle

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today. There were massive storms here
on the East Coast where I live,

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and tornado warnings and giant tree fell
right in front of my house. Thank

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god it didn't hit us. Well, I'm glad to hear you made it

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okay. I was actually out of
I was on the other side of the

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country on Monday and Tuesday speaking at
Arizona States Institute for American Politics, which

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is a great institution, and I
kept on getting all these reports about how

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bad everything was, and I was
flying back on Tuesday night, so I

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was a little nervous about whether i'd
make it in. And every time I

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talked to my husband, he was
telling me that the storm hadn't come yet,

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that it was going to start at
one am on Wednesday morning. Meanwhile,

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all the places that were affiliated with
were sending out notes about the horrific

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storm, like school was getting let
out early, no after school activities.

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Church was canceled, choir practice was
canceled. I was pretty sure the storm

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was happening on Tuesday, but my
husband insisted that there was nothing going on.

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So finally, like late it later
on in the day, I talked

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to my daughter and she's like,
I have no idea what dad is saying.

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It's been a horrible storm all day. So I always think my wife

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is overreacting, like she's getting water
and putting it aside and all this stuff.

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And it was fine. I mean, that tree could have hit our

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house and killed all of us,
but thank god it did not. Agreed.

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Yeah, so you were away for
a couple of days from work,

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and we noticed because you're integral to
this operation here. But imagine if you

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just disappear for four days and didn't
tell anyone, and you ran the largest,

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most deadly organization in the history of
mankind. I assume you're talking about

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Lloyd Austin's little visit to the ICU
without telling anyone. And the surgery.

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I it was an elective surgery.
Every surgery is elective, right, But

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oh, yes, me or something. I think it's I think that we

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also learned he has cancer of some
kind, and yes, yes he does

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have cancer. Yeah. I was
thinking how I could never do the tasks

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associated with being president, Like it
just seems like such an overwhelming job.

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And I've always thought that, but
then this week I thought, well,

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you know, I think i'd know
to check in on my Secretary of Defense

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every day during times of global conflict. I think I could do better.

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We could do better. Well,
you definitely could do better. I've told

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you that's everybody could do better.
That's my I've told you this, that's

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my baseline. Like, if I
vote for president, the person has to

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be more successful than I am and
more competent than I am, and that

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is not a very high bar.
And yet we're having trouble meeting it.

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Like I you know, I don't
check in on anyone, even after storms

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or whatever. But so I shouldn't
be president. I I'm it concerns me

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a little, just to be serious
for a second, that the Secretary of

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Defense and the second in command of
the Defense Department can disappear for four days

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without anyone noticing during a time when
there's like stuff going on in the Middle

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East, stuff going on in Europe. There is like there are real serious

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issues going on, like what would
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maybe they don't need him. I
don't know. Well, Rebecca Heinrix was

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making the point on Fox too that
this was not it was not just that

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there are things going on conflicts all
over the world that require our attention,

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or that we have involved ourselves in. It's that we ourselves were doing some

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of the activity at the time of
Lloyd Austin's absence. I think it was

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like a drone strike or something.
It's like who authorized this and who discussed

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it, and it's clearly not Lloyd
Austin and Joe Biden. It's also not

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Lloyd Austin's second in command, who
was on va K I think in a

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Caribbean island or something. And there's
another aspect of this, though, which

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is it's not just that he was
often didn't notify people appropriately and that the

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lines of communication are so bad that
the White House didn't know, and that

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press didn't know, nobody knew.
It's also that they seem to be very

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cavalier about it and once caught like
they're not accountable to civilian authority. And

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it reminds me, you know,
remember how Mark Milly bragged openly about how

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he called China and told them he
would undermine his civilian authority if his civilian

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authority decided to go after China,
which is such a such a weird weird

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dude, What a weird dude,
Mark Milly? Is? Was that issue

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there is about whether we have a
constitutional system and lines of authority and the

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way that the current Defense Department doesn't
seem to think it's accountable to anyone is

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extremely disconcerting. Well, the Milli
thing, it still blows my mind that

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that that wasn't a massive deal.
I mean, I don't care who the

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president is. He basically said that
he would warn Shina if we did anything

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militarily, which to me sounds basically
like sedition. I don't know, I

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mean, you know, and remember
that when Donald Trump was like that sounds

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kind of seditious, and you know
what we do to seditious people. Everyone

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in corporate media was like that sounds
awful what Trump just said. And it

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reminds me of every issue that we
have out there. You can have a

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completely open border and all the problems
was associated with it, but if you

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don't use the right words to complain
about it, suddenly you're the problem.

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It's such a deeply un serious approach. I mean, it's like the nice

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way to put it, it's unseerious. It's actually it's a deadly serious.

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How much our elites kind of help
keep things bad by obsessing over the way

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people talk about things instead of the
actual things that are happening. Well,

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I mean, all these guardians of
democracy during the Trump years. What was

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the guy Anonymous or whatever? He
was some low level I love Anonymous so

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much. Gon Miles Smith before I
love him. I believe he was saying,

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like, you know, there are
people in the White House undermining the

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president what he wants to do.
You know, Donald Trump was elected.

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You know, I am not a
big fan of democracy, but we havemocratic

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institutions sometimes and you need to honor
them. You can have people in a

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the White House if if you believe
the president is doing something that's undermining country,

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that you should come out, go
to the media, step down,

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whatever. But you can't undermine the
elected official simply because you don't like it.

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Politically, Millie was he's a hysteric. I mean, the whole idea

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that Trump was going to do have
some coup or attack China was a fantasy

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Trump had was much more. He
attacked, he was going to I don't

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know if you remember that, but
he was going to attack Ron because they

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shot down a drone and he didn't
do it because he was worried about killing

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people. He was far less inclined
to use the military then even you know

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Joe Biden or any you know,
any other president recently. So anyway,

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wait, I have two things I
want to say about it. Sorry to

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go on, but I don't know. That's why we're here. Okay,

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this is such an obvious thing,
but I feel and so I therefore feel

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a little bit embarrassed. It took
me so long to figure it out.

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So when Trump wanted to take it
against Iran, he was being advised to

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kind of launch a full scale attack
of some kind, and he didn't because

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of the of how many, how
disproportionate it was in his idea in his

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mind. But he did do things
like just take out bad guys. You

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know, he would find the bad
guy who was killing Americans and he would

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take out like just that person.
And that's a great strategy in my mind.

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You don't get involved in a year's
long or decades long conflict, but

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you do take care of it of
a problem. And then when the Ukraine

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things started happening, and also in
the aftermath of Afghanistan, where people were

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actually defending how we handled the situation
there, meaning we kind of won Afghanistan

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pretty quickly in a matter of months, if not like the first two years.

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And then we stayed there for many
decades, and then you started having

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the people who wanted this defend this
policy like we had to stay there for

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decades, We should have stayed there
for hundreds of years. And this is

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so obvious, but I guess I
just never realized, like the reason why

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they want long because they can make
a lot more money in the long war.

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You don't make a lot of money
when you just take out the bad

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guy and then you turn right back
around. It's much better for peace,

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for domestic strength, for our strength
abroad as well. It makes all the

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sense in the world, except for
the part where you make a lot of

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money for the military industrial complex.
Wow, we've had this discussion before.

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I mean, I think punishing Iran
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doing because they killed six hundred Americans
people will constantly forget that where they were

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behind the death of six hundred Americans
and they take hostages all the time.

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But anyway, yes, a lot
are are you referring to when well,

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during the Iraq conflict, Iranians would
enter Iraq and help set up booby traps

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and things like that, and they
killed many Americans. Now, I don't

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care you're for Iraq or not.
You can't have other nations attacking American soldiers

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and care where they are. Also, they're constantly taking American hostages, right,

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I mean they are. They're just
a bad regime and I would have

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no punishing them. But yes,
I don't want to go over there and

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have a long war and build democracy
and all that stuff doesn't work. It's

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a bad idea. But I understand
the inclination behind Afghanistan where you're saying,

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like, we don't want to have
to come back, let's try to build

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something good here. But it obviously
doesn't work in certain places, so we

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shouldn't be doing it. So but
again, you are taking out solo money

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was Yeah, he was the guy
responsible for these actions. Yes, if

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you can punish the people at the
top for this sort of thing, that

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is great, Like you don't want
to hurt civilians they're not you know,

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involved in this, but you know
that happens unfortunately sometimes. But yeah,

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if you can weak in your posture
because you're overextended in something, yeah,

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absolutely. The Solomoney thing was great. And if you remember, the whole

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left was like, this is going
to start World War three, this is

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you know, so they have this
weird thing where some wars are fine and

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we can be involved all the way
if Democrats do it. But we're supposed

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to worry that Iron's gonna what invade
Los Angeles. No, they're they're far

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weaker than us, and we can
punish them if we want to. And

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killing Solomoni was great anyway, So
you're you're right about this being it's funny,

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but it's also a concern because I
feel like we don't have serious people

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in governance. Right. So the
elective surgery part that was the White House

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initially said it was elective surgery,
and I believe they said that to try

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to diminish the importance of this,
meaning like making it sound like a you

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know, one of those visits,
like you can get done in a day,

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and that people that he was available
but he wasn't available, he was

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under he was under anesthesia. It's
a serious operation, and as many doctors

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I saw said, you know,
of course it's elective in like the most

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literal sense, but it's not real. No one would actually call a prostate

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cancer surgery elective surgery. That makes
it sound like it's plastic surgery or you're

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getting something, you know, a
full removed. So I think they tried

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to diminish the importance of this by
calling it elective. I don't think this

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is what any any serious person will
call it elective surgery. I've never heard

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someone called cancer surgery elective, right, right, right, doesn't So so

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yeah, they're not serious. They're
not going, you know, no one's

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going to be punished. And I
just think this is how it works now.

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Everyone's so partisan that we don't have
any serious people in Washington saying listen,

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I don't care who the who's in
the White House. We need you

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know, there are certain important functions
that government is involved in, and the

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federal government's most important function is foreign
policy. I should be foreign policy,

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right, and they're not serious about
it. So I actually think this relates

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to Miles Smith, the fourth the
guy who was a nice Bringing it back

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to Anonymous, I was just thinking
about him yesterday, actually mentioned him in

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my remarks because you remember when The
New York Times published Anonymous, it was

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this explosive essay from someone at the
very top of the of the Trump administration,

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or it was written in such a
way that it could have possibly been

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a family member of Trump. It
was this DC parlor game for for weeks

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and months, but even years to
try to ascertain who was this anonymous official

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or family member who believed that Trump
should be twenty fifth amendmented or whatever the

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thing was he was calling for.
And so people would legitimately ask every single

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cabinet member, and it just kind
of created this air of like, oh,

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very very top level people are legitimizing
our efforts to undermine the twenty sixteen

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election by twenty fifth Amendment ing the
president. And so every cabinet official,

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every family member, was it Millennia, was it Avonka? It was someone

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very high up. And then when
it finally came out who it was,

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it was Miles Smith. The fourth
I think is that wait? I think

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I just made up his name.
Miles Taylor. Miles Taylor Taylor the fourth.

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Miles Smith is an academic at Hillsdale
who's great, great historian, and

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I apologize to him at this moment, and he might be a fourth also.

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Anyway, it was Miles Taylor.
And he wasn't even in like the

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top sixty people at the subagency at
the Department of Homeland Security on the day

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that the op ed was published,
Like, he wasn't even on the website

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are the top sixty officials at this
subagency. He didn't even meet that bar,

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and yet he was portrayed by corporate
media as a top official by the

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New York Times. And that's just
the one example of a million of the

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ways that the media pushed narrative over
facts, and they abused every Norman process

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to get there. And it's also
related to the Lloyd Austin situation in that

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they mostly care about protecting they mostly, I mean, they've covered it a

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little bit, but like it's such
a gentle way, so much more gentle

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than they would have under the previous
administration. And nobody trusts them, and

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there's a real crisis. But because
the people who cover loss of institutional trust

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are the media themselves, they're just
not covering what is actually a massive story,

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like the vast majority of Americans do
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news honestly, fairly, or accurately. The only people who do are Democrats.

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on facts or understanding that media is
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and not just narrative forming or propaganda
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do you know when the Biden administration recently

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gave orders for everyone to go out
and start talking about the next se minute

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stra as if they were Hitler.
Miles Taylor was on where one of those

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lefty networks, and he said that
Donald Trump was probably going to shut down

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the Internet, and it reminded me
that that was a big member net neutrality

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and how the Internet was being shut
down by the right wing and it obviously

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did not happen, but it's the
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And one last thing about him,
one little fact about him. He's supposedly

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this great Republican and Donald Trump changed
his mind and all that he actually donated

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to the Barack Obama campaign in two
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that McCain basically was not it was
too conservative for him. So you can,

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like, you can imagine what kind
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from the start, it's not exactly
and that's fine. But let's not pretend

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that he's some great conservative who you
know who's turned by Donald Trump. Oh

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wow, that's a really I wish
i'd known that earlier. Now we do.

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We'd like to bring it back to
anonymous. So sure, we'll talk

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about that in the future. I'm
sorry i'd interrupted you. So the other

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thing I thought was interesting about Miles
Taylor before talking about the Internet being shut

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down is not just that it's absurd
to say that Trump puts shut down the

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Internet, but we exist right now
in an era of the greatest censorship of

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American speech and debate in American history, and the government is actively involved in

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quote unquote shutting down the Internet for
people who do not tow the Democrat party

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line on anything from interventions in response
to global pandemics to how you talk about

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transgender issues to how you talk about
election issues. Pretty much like any issue

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that motivates people to vote one way
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working with sometimes taxpayer funded non governmental
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and big big tech companies to shut
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Americans, you know, people who
are on the left, and a serious

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and non evil media would cover that
instead of participate in that. Every single

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day, for instance, CNN puts
out a newsletter by this like dim wit,

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and I don't like to be like
mean like that normally, but he

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is not the brightest light bulb.
But in the intellectual chandelier, Oliver Darcy,

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who makes Brian Stelter look unfairly fired
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was fired at CNN, he puts
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my favorite thing is he always uses
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opponents. Every day he puts conspiracy
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Most of what he exists to do, though, is to help democrats in

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government shut down the speech of media
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political bias. So that's what our
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the threats to free expression that the
worst that are like so far, so

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much worse than anything we've experienced in
our country in hundreds of years. Elidard

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Darcia, I don't really want to
pick on him per se, but he

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has a good straws in here.
Wall. You should want to pick on

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him. He's doing evil things to
harm American speech and expression, Like,

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why not pick on him? Yeah, No, that's fine. I meant

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in the sense that there are many
like him. But he is a good

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straw man for this thing I'm going
to say. I believe so. He's

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very journalists in some sense. Again, they were always on the left.

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I get it. I get a
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romanticizing the past, but there was
a certain skepticism that a good journalist would

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have and like to be controlled by
powerful people or whatever. But this is

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the perfect kind of new journalists who
just regurgitates what he's basically told. He

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knows what he's supposed to say,
and he just does it. He has

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no sort of intellectual curiosity. He's
never going to step out of line.

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He's never going to step on anyone's
toes, which is not how journalists journalism

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used to be in the past.
But but you don't, like in literre

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against communist systems, there are those
characters who are like that, like just

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exactly what you said. They're not
running the thing, but they are supplicating

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themselves before the people who are running
the bad programs, and they're so eager

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to please them. And he does
seem like there's always like a particular uh

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like negativity associated with with those types
who go out of their way to embarrass

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themselves in how much they're willing to
support an evil regime. That does seem

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like, well, they're just cogs
in like the bureaucracy. Do you remember

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the movie Brazil at all? I
haven't seen it. I know I need

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to, Okay, it's a good
idea, so it's amazing. It's very

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you know, it's kind of a
tape off. I think of what kind

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of an or welly in nineteen eighty
four idea. But there are these cogs

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who are just kind of like rewriting
I remember correctly history and rem writing letters

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and stuff like that and trying to
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sort of what he is it's to
me they're just political actors, and that's

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a shame that we don't there are
very few left wingers who are I would

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consider journalists. I don't like.
They do exist on like substacks and stuff

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like that, but not at major
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us perfectly into this other story that
I think you saw and I saw Semaphore,

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which is kind of like Axio's political
Political I guess, yeah, Ben

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Smith is there. I think he's
maybe the editor. I forget, but

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anyway, they have this newslettercal just. I think it's the Scoop. I

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don't know any of the names of
these things, but whatever it was.

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Apparently like a lot of big name
journalists. Political journalists show up and meet

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with White House, the White House
like every so often to go over their

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homework, like are they doing a
good job. Basically, they are actual

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spreadsheets where the White House tells them
where they've gone wrong and what they've done

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wrong. So I don't know how
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I think it's the Biden campaign that
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How's that going. No, that's
right, No, that's true. Now

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I can explain this. I guess
if I was meeting with a campaign,

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I would one hundred percent meet with
them. If I was a political reporter

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for news, if they were laying
out spreadsheets to tell me how my coverage

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was wrong, I would basically be
insult not insulted, insulted, and I

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would ignore all of that and I
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that's not what happens, obviously,
because I don't even know that they gave

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any names. They just gave names
of the outlets ABCNBC, The Wall Street

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Journal, Fox, NPR, Reuters, Bloomberg and others, and they go

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to Wilmington. They go over to
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orders. This reminds me of that
letter they sent out a few months ago

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where they told everyone to talk about
Trump like Hitler, and they did it.

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Yeah, I know, I would
imagine that. I' I saw these

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spreadsheets and I saw what the campaign
was telling them they were reporting tonally wrong

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or factual or whatever it was.
I can almost guarantee you that there are

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stories that you see coming out days
after the spreadsheet is presented that give the

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Biden campaign position on this. That's
how that's how little I think of most

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of these reporters, So I could. I loved the story, and I

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loved that they ran with it.
But again, it was like such a

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nicely written story. If the Trump
administration the Trump campaign had come out with

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a spreadsheet of well, here are
the like forty eight thousand lies that you

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guys said that are demonstrably false that
harmed the country, the story would be

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that the White that Donald Trump and
his authoritarian tendencies was trying to control what

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the media did. You could not
have a more sycophantic media right now than

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you have toward Joe Biden. And
to give just one example of this,

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I think about how during the Trump
administration, when Kayleie mcnaney or oh my

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gosh, Kelly and Conway would walk
out to talk to the media, you

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would actually start to hear almost it
sounds like almost like jet engines roaring.

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It would be shrieks from everybody in
the White House press room. Shrieks,

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just shrieking. There was a tension
and like a craziness associated with like the

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moment anyone from the Trump administration came
out, you would have people just like

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almost crying. You remember April Ryan
being one of these types of people are

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like, who's that woman who was
at PBS who would always just like ask

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the most crazy biased questions. I
don't remember her name. I wrote about

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her, but I can't remember her
name. And it was it was kind

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of weird. It was almost like, you know, it felt like a

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Disney cartoon watching packs of hyenas trying
to tear people apart. And then you

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have and that was like with a
country that is going pretty well economically piece

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abroad, you know, now you
have the complete implosion of the American system.

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Like everything's bad. Basically, the
economy is bad. We have conflicts

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that we are mismanaging across the world. We have crime, an epidemic of

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crime, although the media claim otherwise, although which I think is funny,

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people are experiencing an epidemic of crime. We have horrible inflation, mortgage rates

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are out of control, you know, like energy costs. Everything is in

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a completely open border. And also
I'm pretty sure the least capable press secretary

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in the history of the White House. Like an embarrassing way, I sometimes

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have to watch these press conferences and
it's or press availabilities, and it's embarrassing,

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Kareem John Pierre, you're saying with
Kreem John Pierre, who's you feel

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badly watching her? Because she's so
bad at her job. So so I

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have never seen her answer a question
with confidence or with facts, like it's

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just appalling. And again, I
want to keep in mind, there's no

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such thing as a difficult Democrat press
secretary job, because you already got the

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media with you. Sometimes people were
like, oh, Jen Sack, she

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was a very capable lady. How
would you know she had a Democrat press

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corps asking Democrat questions of a Democrat
White House Like, that's not we do

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not call that a terribly difficult situation
to assess whether she's good at her job

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or not. And anyway, so
in this context, though, the White

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House Press cort is so meek and
so mild, and they are like three

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reporters there who won't ask sycophantic questions, after which they always get punished by

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not getting called on for like a
week or two. And it's embarrassing.

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Yeah, I wish they were all
Hyaenas all the time. Actually, Like

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I don't mind the Hyaena part,
I mind the what's going on now?

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So I actually don't think you need
to be rude to get answers, but

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yeah, I would like to see
you need to be agressivensistency, but there's

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no consistency because they're all partisan hacks. Yeah, yeah, No, you

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have to be aggressive to get answers
because maybe not in this case, but

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most of the time, these are
trained communicators who know how to lie and

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you you know, use euphemisms and
all this stuff. So to get to

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the truth you have to be pretty
aggressive, I think as a reporter.

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But they only do that with Trump
and they we know what they did then,

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so it's just a hysteria and ridiculous
conspiracy theories and all that. But

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everyone was like, oh, they're
acting like these people like the media work

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for them. They're acting like they
get to tell them how to cover the

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campaign. It's like, yeah,
they do get to do that, because

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they do. Nobody's confused. Now
the media boggling with Democrats, like we

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all know it, stop acting surprised
by it. What's mind boggling here to

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me is that they're already doing it, and yet it's not enough for the

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White House, you know what I'm
saying, Like they're already it's not like

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you need a concerted effort to do
this. You know what to say,

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you know how to cover things.
They feed off each other. You can

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see how stories evolve from there.
You know. I saw someone, some

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fact checker, talking about this Lloyd
Austin story and actually saying, well,

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it's elective, it's complicated. Everything
gets very complicated when they lie or they

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try to mislead you, and everything
is very cut and dry when a Republican

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does it. So wait, do
you know that story that's that's just stupid

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00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:26,920
story? But like about a man
being propositioned by another man about oh no,

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sorry, it'd be a woman being
propositioned to have sex for a certain

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dollar amount, like would you have
sex with me for ten dollars? And

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she gets very offended and she's like, what do you think I am?

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You know, a whore? And
then it's like, oh well, what

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about a what about a million dollars? And she's like, well let me

415
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think about it, you know,
and it's like now we're just quibbling over

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you're still oh sorry, I'm all
I love how you just relate that story.

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I think it's Winston Churchill supposedly who
said this to that he says,

418
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Now we're just qubbling over price.
So obviously you start out with like the

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million dollars and then you work down
to no, no, no, you

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were you were oh yeah, I'm
not sure which way or whatever. We

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were quibbling over price. We've established
you're a whore. And that's what I

422
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,839
view what's happening with the media and
Biden. It's like people can't get offended

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00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:19,200
when they're like, well, we're
already doing all this stuff. Why would

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00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,200
you be mad at us for not
doing more. It's like we've already established

425
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,039
that we control you and that we
dictate what you're going to say. Now

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00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,200
we're just quibbling about how far you're
going to have to humiliate yourself. Yeah.

427
00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:36,559
And the thing is, I again, I actually maybe I'm naive here,

428
00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:38,599
but I believe there are actually probably
good reporters with good instincts. But

429
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,880
it's probably impossible to be that way
in the environment that you've set up at

430
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these major outlets, you know what
I mean, Like, what are you

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00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:52,799
going to do? What are people
waiting for? Yeah? The watched Autal

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Every day. Chris helps unpack the connection

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between politics and the economy and how
it affect it's your wallet. The virtue

434
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signaling has come to roosts as the
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435
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crossings ever recorded. Our leftists may
as still calling their city sanctuary cities now

436
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cities are on the brink of collapse.

437
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on Apple, Spotify, or wherever
you get your podcasts. Yeah, the

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00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:30,279
other thing I was going to talk
about was how you need to understand who

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00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,880
corporate media are and treat them that
way at all times. It's very frustrating

442
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:42,680
to me to the point of like
it's making me crazy how poorly conservatives or

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00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,440
even just Republicans handle the fact that
the corporate media have completely lost credibility and

444
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:52,039
how they are complete activists. And
I wish I had every week, like

445
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:58,839
a thousand examples of good responses to
corporate media propaganda, and I don't.

446
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,440
But there was one this week that
I thought was actually really good and deserves

447
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,359
to be pointed out, which is
alas Staphonic was debating Kristen Welker, who's

448
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:13,799
the Democrat debate like host of Meet
the Press, And I say debate host

449
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:17,880
because like she's the debater she is. She takes Democrat positions. Sometimes she

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00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:22,240
lies, such as lying about what
Democrats think about abortion, in order to

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00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:28,359
secure political points against her Republican debate
opponent. But this week she brings on

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00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:34,079
a Lease Stephonic. Now as background
Meet the Press and all these Sunday morning

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00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,839
talk shows almost exclusively bring on Democrat
leaders or the type of Republican leader who's

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easily controlled, makes Republicans look bad
and who won't really advocate for conservative positions.

455
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,880
But they had to bring on Elise
Stephonic this week because she'd been such

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00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,599
a big player in the demise of
two Ivy League college presidents. She was

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00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,920
the one who asked like fairly simple
questions about whether calling for the genocide of

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00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:06,160
all Jews violates any policies at Penn
or at Harvard, and the presidents there

459
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:07,920
thought they were being really cute and
how they answered it, but it ended

460
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:14,119
up kind of like ultimately leading to
their leaving their their posts as president.

461
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,599
So they bring her on to sort
of talk about that. But Kristen Welker

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00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:22,239
wanted first to debate her on all
sorts of things related to Donald Trump and

463
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:28,039
Joe Biden, because Elie Stephonic is
a supporter of Donald Trump's and so she

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00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:34,800
But I was really impressed with how
effectively she handled Democrat activist Kristen sort of

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00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,320
crazy is Welker? She Kristen was
saying that Joe Biden is the best thing

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00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:45,239
ever and that he is rightfully going
to point out that that if you vote

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00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:51,760
Republican, you're voting for a destruction
of the republic And how are sorry destruction

468
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,719
of democracy? Because always say that, and how you know how great he

469
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,840
is and how awful Trump is and
how effective that has been. That message

470
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,880
worked for Joe Biden and Democrats in
twenty twenty and twenty twenty two. Obviously

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00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,280
it's going to work really well now. And so what do you think at

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least Stephonic And she, first of
all, at least looked great. She

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00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:14,400
always does, but she looks really
great. And by the way, I

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say that, not as like a
complete fan of her. She's really been

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00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:20,599
on a bunch of issues like surveillance, state issues and things like that.

476
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But she looks great, and then
she and she was smiling and she's like,

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so, I'm gonna have to correct
pretty much everything you just said,

478
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and goes through it. Every single
time Kristen Welker would ask a question,

479
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she would respond by correcting the factual
problems or the false assumptions that were built

480
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,039
into it. Now, in order
to do this, you have to be

481
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highly informed, and it was clear
that Stefanic knew her stuff, like she

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00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:50,519
knew the facts underlying J six issues, and she knew her facts underlying problems

483
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:53,199
with the twenty twenty election. And
I think a big reason why Republicans do

484
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,719
such a bad job in their debates
with Democrat media is that they don't actually

485
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,480
know their facts well enough to quit
respond to the falsehoods that are asserted in

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them. But Stevanic did great,
and I would encourage everyone go on Rumble

487
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,360
and you can watch it. And
I'm not saying it was like perfect.

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There were, like, you know, maybe a few things I would have

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00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,960
done slightly differently, but she came
pretty close to perfect. It was really

490
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like a crushing it kind of episode. So one of the questions was like

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00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,280
to one or it wasn't even a
question. It was basically a demand for

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00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:28,039
her to preemptively say that she was
going to be fine with the election no

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00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:31,519
matter what happened, which is the
most ridiculous thing that these people do,

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00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:37,039
because every election Democrats have a problem. When Republicans win, they have a

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00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:39,320
huge problem. And no one ever
asked them to preemptively say they're going to

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00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,159
accept all the results everywhere. I
don't know, who knows what's going to

497
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:46,880
happen, right, Yeah, And
actually I think it suggests at best a

498
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,280
lack of understanding about the certification process
of elections. So when elections are held,

499
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,639
there are supposed to be local controls
over making sure that the election was

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administered properly. And when I Wrotegged, I interviewed a lot of officials who

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are part of the process of certifying. And I don't know if people knew.

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00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,760
Like in Fulton County, Georgia,
which is a county that's notorious for

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00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:15,280
being horrific at running elections, the
New York Times used to write about how

504
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,039
bad they were at running elections as
late as Oh, I think it's like

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00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:22,239
the last story you can get on
that in the New York Times might be

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00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,760
October twenty twenty, they were under
watched by the Department of Justice for how

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00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,639
much they just didn't do a good
job of running things. And this could

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00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:35,159
be everything from claiming that you can
vote at a certain site but no site

509
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,079
being open on election day, to
not having a good handle on how many

510
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:46,800
ballots were distributed, to not having
enough personnel to run ballot to run voting

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00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,480
so that people don't have to wait
as was the case in Fulton County earlier

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in twenty twenty, like you know, a dozen hours. There are all

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00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:00,639
sorts of ways that elections can be
administered improperly that could affect this security or

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00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,440
integrity of the vote. And there
are I mean when I say all sorts

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of ways, I mean like hundreds
of ways you can have a problem.

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00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:09,079
You can have corrupt election officials.
You can have just like mismanagement or no

517
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:15,159
control over ballots. So maybe maybe
someone does vote and then the votes get

518
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:20,079
you know, mishandled at one of
the eight steps along the line before they're

519
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:24,760
counted. And to certifying election means
that you feel confident that the number that

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you're claiming voted for each person was
an accurate representation. There is an accurate

521
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:37,360
number that reflects everyone's will. Probably
a lot of things get probably throughout history,

522
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:39,800
a lot of things have gotten certified
that shouldn't be certified. But the

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00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,800
idea that you could certify before it
happens is insane. Like just imagine all

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00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,920
the ways that you might let's say
they're saying like, okay, at least

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00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,880
stephonic. You've got all these corrupt
secretaries of state who are running things right

526
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,280
now, and let's say they like
do something really bad to prevent new entire

527
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,800
classes of people voting. Thing that
happens in this country and has happened.

528
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,119
Just objectively speaking, that was not
that long ago that democrats disenfranchised like a

529
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:13,960
complete race of people in the South. It happens. It's not like great,

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00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:16,079
But elections are never perfect. And
the idea that you would vote to

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certify or sho be like, yeah, everything was good without knowing about foreign

532
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:27,920
interference or domestic interference or Marcus Zuckerberg
interference or you know, maladministration. It

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00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,360
suggests that people have no idea all
the steps that are in place that are

534
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:37,800
supposed to make people trust elections.
Demanding acceptance of an election before it occurs

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00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:45,199
is a good way to make people
not trust election results. Yeah, even

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00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:50,280
listen, I think and obviously there's
a constitutional process or there's a process where

537
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,079
you can challenge certain things if you
want after an election. Now, in

538
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:57,800
the end you need to step down
when all your you know, all or

539
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,920
cases have been exhausted and everything's been
exhausted. I think you need to move

540
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:05,159
to the idea that you're supposed to
preemptively say that it was a great election,

541
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,840
everything was good, and only when
Democrats win. She will never ask

542
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:14,599
a Democrat this question. And every
election, thirty Democrats two thousand and four

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00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:20,320
wouldn't vote to certify, like in
every election, they do not accept it.

544
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,039
Right in the twenty first century,
they have not lost an election in

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00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:27,800
their mind right, And it actually
goes it even goes back for yes that

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00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:31,559
be In a new book coming out
next year, I read a quote from

547
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,199
Jamie Raskin that I was sure was
made up. And I think of him

548
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,360
because he wrote a book about how
George Bush and Karl Rove stole the two

549
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,320
thousand election. And I think about
that because there was this like really creepy

550
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,840
moment where Liz Cheney was on stage
with Jamie Raskin and she's like I never

551
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:52,199
thought that we would be getting along
so well, but we are. Our

552
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,920
shared hatred of Donald Trump and Republicans
has brought us really close together. And

553
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:00,840
I just thought that was like disgusting
because he wrote a book claiming her father

554
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:06,639
stole an election, and she's okay
with it because her main goal is whatever,

555
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,440
you know, war everywhere. But
Jamie Raskin wrote a book, wrote

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00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,320
a book about the two thousand election
being stolen. He also voted not to

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00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:22,719
certify the twenty sixteen election, and
that's just a great example of how frequently

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00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,400
Democrats oppose election results that they don't
win. Oh my gosh, I mean,

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00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:31,039
oh sorry, oh sorry, I'm
so sorry, David. I didn't

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00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:34,960
mean to cut you off, but
I'd started by saying that he had this

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00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:38,599
quote that I thought was not real. His quote was that removing people from

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the ballot is actually like the most
democratic thing you do, because they're choosing

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00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:49,360
to remove themselves from the ballot through
the actions that you deem to be reason

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00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:52,559
to remove them from the ballot.
I was like, that's the stupidest thing

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00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:54,159
I've ever heard, and I was
like, that can't be real, and

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00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,559
he really did say it. Okay, I think all this goes back,

567
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:00,400
like maybe because I'm a writer,
I think everything goes back to words.

568
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,639
And obviously the word democracy no longer
has any meaning. It only means you

569
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,440
know, whatever democrats want, even
when it's undemocratic, which happened when with

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00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,400
reversing Roe v. Wade and handing
it back to the people, which was

571
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,320
the most undemocratic thing according to them. And now with taking off the leading

572
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:23,559
Republican candidate from ballads in two states? Did you see Joe Biden in Wilmington

573
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:28,079
in the church go on and on
about how he basically was Martin Luther King

574
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:31,440
Junior and led the civil rights movement? And I just want to quickly say,

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00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:37,519
there has never been a liar like
this in the history of politics in

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00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:40,159
America. And I don't mean he's
lying about policy. I mean just the

577
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:45,840
fabulousm about his own life like I
have. Honestly, I've tried to research

578
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,239
and find another president who has been
caught lying about his own life, and

579
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,320
no one comes close. No one
comes close. This is you could write

580
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:57,360
a novel, You could write a
book, a biography, six hundred pages

581
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,639
of all the stuff he's made up
about his life that was and true and

582
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,239
have a whole story told you know
what I'm saying, it is amazing.

583
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:10,639
So that's another thing they don't cover
with the same zest they would or zeal

584
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:17,559
they would if Donald Trump was president. You know, so well, even

585
00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:21,760
like people were talking about Clouding Gay
and her plagiarism, and I'm like,

586
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,639
it is, we do seem to
have a country where there's a lot of

587
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:30,480
plagiarism, mostly from our president.
Another thing with Biden, as now,

588
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:36,599
this was part of his like campaign
to make this election about saving democracy and

589
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:39,679
all that. For one thing,
I don't think obviously, I don't believe

590
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,039
that Joe Biden has done anything to
help the constitution, which is what matters

591
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:47,280
to me more than democracy. He's
heard it in innumerable ways. He ignores

592
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:53,280
the Supreme Court, he delegitimizes the
Supreme Court, he preemptively delegitimizes elections.

593
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,960
He is no better, and he
probably much worse in many ways. So

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I don't that. By the way, did you commemorate January sixth day?

595
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,000
I do every year in American history. No. I'm Christian, so it

596
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:13,079
actually always confuses me when people talk
about it. As Christian. There are

597
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,480
different holidays, some of which move
and some of which always are on the

598
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:21,239
same date. So Christmas is obviously
always December twenty fifth, Easter moves and

599
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,880
is based on it's a movable feast. But Epiphany is always on January sixth,

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00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:30,599
and Western Christians celebrated as Epiphany.
Eastern Christians celebrate well, I mean,

601
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:37,119
it's almost like their Christmas. And
in the old world the date there's

602
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:40,119
this is like an interesting history.
But Epiphany, which is when you commemorate

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00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,719
when the whole world kind of came
to understand through the wise, you know,

604
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,360
the wise man come and pay homage
to this king infant. So it's

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00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,320
a big day for us. So
yes, I marked it, but as

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00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,960
a Christian, I did not get
to market. I did wish. I

607
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,840
always try to wish people nice things
on their religious holidays, so I did

608
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,920
wish for Washington posts in New York
Times and CNN, and I'm a NBC

609
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,840
that they have a good January sixth, since I know it's such a happy

610
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,519
day for them. It's so annoying, and I'm a person who thinks it

611
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:19,679
was a pretty bad I'm not lenient
in my thinking as many people are about

612
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,920
some of the folks who participated in
this. I think it was pretty bad.

613
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,880
But the way they talk about it, like that it was democracy had

614
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,960
almost fallen that day, you know, the Viking shaman was going to take

615
00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:37,800
over the government and all of this
kind of stuff is just so insufferable already

616
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,760
and annoying. And I don't think
it's a really good campaign strategy for Biden,

617
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,440
though I was thinking maybe there is
no other strategy for him. I

618
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:49,079
mean, he can try to convince
people the economy is great, and supposedly

619
00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:52,639
is, there's been some movement in
that. I'm pretty skeptical of that.

620
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:58,480
But what else can he really lean
in on other than going after Trump being

621
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:02,119
this you know, Hitler and there's
really nothing that he's accomplished. I would

622
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:07,840
say that that people will still remember
even Afghanistan is sull you know, a

623
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,840
lot of people wanted to get out, but it's sullied by the incompetence and

624
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:15,079
death. So if you're a Biden
campaign guy, what do you do?

625
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,280
What? Sorry, I'm still stuck
on you being like acting like you're special

626
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:27,519
for not loving a riot on January
sixth. I don't think special, I

627
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:30,159
mean, and in fact, that's
one of the reasons why so much was

628
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:36,360
able to be made of it by
by Democrats is that conservatives do tend to

629
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,079
be very supportive of law and order, not so sympathetic to riots, and

630
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,559
so a lot of hay was able
to be made over that, you know,

631
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:46,599
over the riot, because you know, people on the right are like,

632
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:50,519
I don't believe you should enter a
building that you don't have access to,

633
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,559
and whereas you know, compare the
reaction of the right to the riot

634
00:46:55,639 --> 00:47:00,880
on January sixth with the reaction of
the left to the b LM riots of

635
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:05,000
twenty twenty. There was widespread support, you know, corporate support, media

636
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:07,760
support, financial support, all sorts
of just like general people support. In

637
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:14,400
their yards they put up signs supporting
BLM riots, and in my neighborhood they

638
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:21,239
still do. And Antifa, I
mean Antifa firebombings and all kinds of stuff

639
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,079
that was going on with them as
well. So I don't know. I

640
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:30,719
was sitting in the makeup chair at
Fox recently waiting or you know, getting

641
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,000
my makeup done to go onto Laura
Ingram, which is on at seven pm

642
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:39,079
Eastern, and it enabled me to
watch the six pm show, and I

643
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:44,039
do mean watch. I wasn't listening
but I was watching the six pm Brettbear

644
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:49,639
Special Report Show, and six pm
I don't remember who it is at NBC,

645
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,639
Aary Melber, I think is the
guy who does their six pm news

646
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:58,599
show. Oh my goodness, David. It was so fascinating. So Brett

647
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,920
Bear, as you know is my
experience with him for the last whatever like

648
00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:07,719
seven years, is running a news
show. There are short items about conflict

649
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,400
throughout the world. There are short
items about the border, about the economy,

650
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,360
about what's happening on Capitol Hill,
you know, and you're just kind

651
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,320
of going through the news of the
day to get an around the world,

652
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:23,000
and DC look at what's going on. During that period of time, which

653
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:29,559
was like thirty minutes that I was
sitting there, Aary Melber had only himself

654
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:37,840
on monologuing about how Donald Trump is
dangerously corrupt. And I'm saying all this

655
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,360
based on the chirons that were at
the bottom of the of the thing.

656
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,960
So I don't know exactly what I
said, but I know nobody was brought

657
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:52,000
on other than Airy melbur It was
like a like a like a dim situation

658
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:58,159
of what does Aery Melburh think about
everything? But his case was that and

659
00:48:58,199 --> 00:49:00,960
I'm not sure if you knew this. Did you know that the Trump family

660
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:06,519
owns hotels across the world? Oh? Really, yeah they do? And

661
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,480
did you know that you don't have
to be an American citizen to book a

662
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:16,159
hotel room with a Trump hotel.
It's used to me shocking, right,

663
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:25,880
So therefore Donald Trump is corrupt.
He's compromised because the among the people who

664
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:32,559
booked hotel rooms at Trump hotel properties
were some Chinese people and some Russian people.

665
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:37,920
So therefore, Donald Trump, this
is a scandal and he's corrupt.

666
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,920
And I was like, and it
just went on for like a half hour,

667
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,920
and I'm just sitting there like,
what is going on? If it's

668
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:47,559
corrupt for a longtime family business with
global you know, hotel properties whatever,

669
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:57,280
to take money from individuals who are
associated with foreign countries, how are they

670
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,800
covering the Biden family business? Where
to this, Hey, we still don't

671
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:07,159
quite understand what were people getting in
response in return for giving members of the

672
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,639
Biden family tens of millions of dollars. Well, you know, that seems

673
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:14,239
like a much bigger story because they
don't have hotels, they don't have any

674
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,719
material good DESI anythink they offer nothing
in return for that money other than Hunter's

675
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,320
expertise on energy issues in the Ukraine. In Ukraine, sorry, you saw

676
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,159
the house. The dumbs in the
house had some kind of investigation. This

677
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,320
is just a ginned up kind of
parallel controversy they're trying to create where they're

678
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,000
saying that, you know, Trump
took money from these same foreign people as

679
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:42,119
well. The difference is, I
think that everyone knows this was that where

680
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,360
where Ery Melberg got the idea?
Do you think is that what you I

681
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:50,119
didn't even hear about that, So
I think the case here is that.

682
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,800
But to me, the difference is, and listen again, you don't want

683
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,920
to you know, I don't love
the Trump has hotels and stuff, but

684
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,880
the truth is that the guy lost
probably a lot of money being president,

685
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:04,320
and you know he had no there
wasn't financial gain in doing it for him.

686
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,800
But you know whatever, Sorry,
did you just say you don't like

687
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,039
that Trump has hotels. I don't
like it. I don't love it.

688
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,440
I don't because I don't. I
think that when when you have ways of

689
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:22,800
being making money to enact certain policies, that could be problematic if you have

690
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,519
a president who owns something and that
foreign forced sources can give them money to

691
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:30,280
an accerent policy. In this case, do you feel like George Washington should

692
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,719
not have been president. He's fine. I actually think wealthy people should be

693
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,719
present because actually, in reality,
wealthy people are far less inclined, I

694
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:43,239
think, to be bought because they're
already rich. But anyway, listen,

695
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,599
you said. I just want to
say, you said you probably lost a

696
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:51,519
lot of money. It's not probably, it's definitely lost a lot of money.

697
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,239
And everyone in Washington comes and makes
uh a metric ton of money.

698
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:01,719
Republican Democrat, everyone, you know. Themas are sitting pretty, the bidens

699
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,199
are sitting pretty. It's almost like
a measure of how corrupt you are,

700
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,519
whether you have gained money or lost
money during your time in office in Washington,

701
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:14,440
DC. Just quick aside, I
enjoy your impressions of Liz Cheney.

702
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:21,079
I do not enjoy your impressions of
me. Just kidding. Yes, he

703
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:24,119
lost money and all that that does. Yeah, all I'm saying is this

704
00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:29,960
what was my point? I remember
you interrupted you so many times. But

705
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,599
also, oh yeah, the difference
is that we knew when he became president

706
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:36,440
that he had these businesses. It's
part of the deal when you voted for

707
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:39,719
Donald Trump. That is, Joe
Biden lied about these relationships over and over

708
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:45,159
again, still is lying about them, which matters. It matters because why

709
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:51,480
would you lie about something that is
innocuous like that. You wouldn't so in

710
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:52,880
any event, I don't even know. Oh yeah, so this is just

711
00:52:53,039 --> 00:53:00,480
sort of a how can I say, a countervailing Jinda controversy to kind of

712
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:06,960
defan trying to defang I think what's
going on with Biden? Can we talk

713
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,920
about something else that was funny this
week that I didn't even So I'm working

714
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,000
on my book. I'm off I
didn't even know this was going on.

715
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,239
But uh, someone asked me what
is going on Crown Heights, Brooklyn with

716
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:22,400
the Hassidic Jews? And I'm like, what are you even talking about?

717
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,719
So anyway, I looked into it
a bit. Wait, can you explain

718
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,519
the situation? Because I wonder how
many people actually know what's going on?

719
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:34,280
So a lot of this we're not
sure one hundred percent is happening. But

720
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:40,400
let's talk about hubbad like movement.
It's Labovish a movement. They're actually generally

721
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:46,079
very friendly, nice, kind of
Hasidic Jews like. They have an outreach

722
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:50,400
program. They try to bring Jews
who aren't religious back into the fold.

723
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:54,599
Their website's excellent if you want to
learn about Jewish traditions and stuff like that.

724
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:59,679
But anyway, they have a rabbi, and Hasidic people sometimes are inclined

725
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,679
to be that their rabbis are are
the new Messiah. So this is I

726
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:08,239
think there's a sect within Little Abovich, a group that thinks that their deceased

727
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:15,639
Rabbi Schneerson I think was his name, was the Messiah. So apparently at

728
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:20,320
headquarters they dug a tunnel. First
of all, they dug a tunnel under

729
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,599
a street to get to another house
where there was some religious stuff like a

730
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:28,599
mikvah and you know what that is, like a ritual bath thing, and

731
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:32,639
they wanted to be part of that. And when the rabbis there found out,

732
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:37,639
they brought in a cement truck to
close the tunnel and they were and

733
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,239
the police came and then there was
a riot. So I think that's generally

734
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,199
what it was about. But what's
really funny is there was this guy on

735
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,599
Twitter who lived there next to the
hubbad Central in Brooklyn Crown Heights and he

736
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,599
was constantly tweeting out I hear Jewish
people under my floor and there is no

737
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,440
basement, and everyone was like mocking
him, like if it came sort of

738
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,000
a thing on Twitter, like to
buy him. By the way, I

739
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:01,440
saw that and I loved it.
But do you think that's real or do

740
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,039
you think that was? I don't
know, too good to check, too

741
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:10,599
good to check it, Like I
hear Yiddish underneath, and we don't have

742
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,960
a basement, but everyone has a
basement in New York. I don't know

743
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:16,440
if I buy that. Yeah,
I don't know. There must have been

744
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:21,039
something on them there already. It
just seems unlikely they had like spoons and

745
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:23,559
were digging a secret tunnel. There
must have been some sort of pathway under

746
00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:29,559
there or something that they broke open. But anyway, Uh, obviously you

747
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:37,719
have you visited the Grand Rebbe's burial
site? No, because I no,

748
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:44,400
but I remember Ivanka Trump did maybe
like repeatedly, so I was always curious.

749
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:50,760
You don't have to be orthodox to
be into him, is that right?

750
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,880
Or no? I don't know.
Oh no, I'm actually kind of

751
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:58,079
a fan of Labovita movement, like
and Hubbad. I think like like I

752
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,280
like I I've always liked them I've
met, so you'll have like you're in

753
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,119
New York right and you're walking down
the street and there'll be a bunch of

754
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,519
them outside and they'll be suckus,
you know that holiday Tabernacle holiday. So

755
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:15,559
they'll want to give you like they're
like, are you Jewish? And if

756
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:17,320
you are, they'll like give you
the s rogue and the palm thing.

757
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,599
I don't know if you know this
is religious, so they would like hand

758
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:22,440
it to you and try they try
to bring you back into the fold a

759
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:28,480
lot. They're like cheerful evangelical Christians, but for Jews exactly because you're not

760
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:31,440
supposed to prostlytize outside of faith.
But so there are other kind of pacific

761
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,719
groups like the Sutmar sect, which
I am not a fan of. Usually

762
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,320
we're very insular, but also anti
Israel and very like they have nothing to

763
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,440
do with you. They hate you
more if you're a secular Jew, then

764
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,400
they would hate someone who wasn't Jewish, So you know, there's a lot

765
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:52,119
of that going in any event,
it was just a cool, funny story.

766
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:54,960
I hope everyone's okay, but but
I don't understand what was going on.

767
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,519
Why were they building the tunnels.
I think they just wanted to have

768
00:56:59,639 --> 00:57:06,199
access to this building that they thought
the Messianic Rabbi had like lived in or

769
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,519
done stuff in. That's what someone, That's what I gather. I don't

770
00:57:08,519 --> 00:57:12,840
know that we know for sure yet. Oh, I have an embarrassing question

771
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,199
here. But I know that a
lot of people think that the son,

772
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,079
you know, it's not the son. It's is it the son or the

773
00:57:20,159 --> 00:57:24,480
father that they think is the Messiah
of Shecherson? Because there are two rabbis,

774
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:27,320
right, like a son and a
father. Yeah, it's I think

775
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,840
it's remember the son, the soniting
the grave side. Oh, I don't

776
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,800
know. I don't know for sure. No, they're both dead. That's

777
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,840
that's what I'm saying. I actually
don't And forgive me for my naivete here.

778
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:46,840
But as a Christian, obviously the
whole, the whole thing for us

779
00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:54,039
is that Jesus is the promised Messiah
and he's also not dead. How does

780
00:57:54,119 --> 00:58:00,719
the death of Schneerson not affect whether
he's the Messiah or not? I don't

781
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,119
know. I mean I think that
this is not viewed. This is these

782
00:58:05,199 --> 00:58:08,159
are people are thought of as extremists. Within the Lobovtue movement. They're not

783
00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:13,960
like accepted, their views are not
accepted. So I don't know the specifics

784
00:58:14,039 --> 00:58:19,679
of it. So there's a tradition
in Judaism of sort of lots of people

785
00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:22,119
thinking that the Messiah is coming.
Like you ever hear of Shabbatites who was

786
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:25,280
supposed to show up in Turkey and
like all these people showed up and then

787
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:30,840
he didn't. So I think that
Hausidic Jews have like, oh boy,

788
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,239
I'm going to get in trouble.
But I think that a lot of them

789
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,480
are inclined to believe this sort of
thing. They're like, you know how

790
00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:42,440
Jews don't put up any images of
anything. A lot of these very religious

791
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,079
and Hasidic Jews will have pictures of
all the rabbis and stuff, almost like

792
00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:50,360
saint like figures and Catholicism, I
would say, though perhaps not exactly the

793
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,039
same. But anyway, So I
was in Israel this summer and all around

794
00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:59,719
the Sea of Galilee there were these
posters for I don't know what the sect

795
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,559
was, but they were like,
we found him, He's the Messiah.

796
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,360
I think he also might have been
dead, And then were all these posters

797
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,159
and it was like laying out the
case for why this guy was the Messiah,

798
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:12,800
and it was kind of interesting,
according to our tour guide, at

799
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,960
least, like a lot of the
stuff lined up with Jesus. I was

800
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:17,760
like, do they know about Jesus? You know, it's like from Nazareth

801
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,920
and he visited the Sea of Galilee, you know, so maybe they expect

802
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,360
that he dies and he comes back, you know, in the same way.

803
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:30,079
Maybe that's their expectation. Yeah,
I know. Anyway, I find

804
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:36,679
it's fascinating, but it's you know, I have seen like specific Jews can

805
00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:42,239
sometimes be pretty aggressive. They're not
as like laid back as some people might

806
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,440
imagine Jewish people are. And seeing
the riot and everything was kind of weird.

807
00:59:46,519 --> 00:59:50,679
Anyway, a lot of anti Semitic, like conspiracy theory is now out

808
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,480
there and so on. But I
thought it was an interesting story to break

809
00:59:53,559 --> 01:00:01,199
up the usual political stuff. I
just wouldn't say. Yeah. When that

810
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,039
story broke, a bunch of people
were talking about how some of these sex

811
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,880
are like they'll take over their own
neighborhood and paint over signs and bike lanes

812
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:14,079
and something like that, and then
someone was linking it to I didn't see

813
01:00:14,119 --> 01:00:17,159
this. I've barely seen any Seinfeld, but apparently Kramer once bought it.

814
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:22,719
And then someone said, these people
are like the Kramers of Jews in some

815
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,280
cases, you know, like there's
like goofy stuff happens all the time.

816
01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:30,599
Yeah, And there was this episode
in Seinfeld where Kramer adopted a mile of

817
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,679
highway and he thought that meant that
he got to do whatever he wanted to

818
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,039
do with that stretch of highway,
and he wanted the lanes to be wider,

819
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:39,039
so he just like painted new lanes. And it was really funny how

820
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:44,039
much this really did line up with
some of these people. Molly, that's

821
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:49,199
someone was me. I was on
the chat. I put a picture of

822
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:54,360
Kramer painting the painting the road.
I'm sorry. I was traveling. I

823
01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:57,840
was trying to keep up with it. It's okay, yeah, no,

824
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,119
I was thinking he's more like Kenny
Bonya, do you know, the guy

825
01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:01,880
who always wants to get sup But
Jerry's very friendly. But yeah, the

826
01:01:02,039 --> 01:01:14,119
Kramer thing lines up, all right. I don't like when my good jokes,

827
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,480
by the way, siden people don't
know I'm responsible for them. So

828
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:20,199
let's talk a little bit about culture. I actually don't have much this week.

829
01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:23,119
I've been working on my book to
finish up, but I have two

830
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,519
things to talk. Wait, how
are you doing on culture this week?

831
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,119
I also don't have much, but
I do something, but I'll let you

832
01:01:30,199 --> 01:01:37,719
go. So I watched Equalizer three
with Denzel Washington Net Flicks. I think,

833
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:44,000
oh, it was terrible, just
no story, not even they don't

834
01:01:44,039 --> 01:01:47,760
give Denzel Washington anything to do or
say. Really that's interesting. I mean,

835
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,159
this was the worst Denzel Washington movie
I've ever seen. I think it

836
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,599
was just horrible. Has he reached
the phoning it in part of his career?

837
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:00,199
I just think that maybe, but
I I hope not because he's playing

838
01:02:00,239 --> 01:02:04,880
Hannibal on a movie coming out,
but and he's also on Gladiator two.

839
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,599
I've never seen him be bad.
I don't think I want to see this

840
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:09,480
because I don't want to see him
be bad. I'm like, there were

841
01:02:09,639 --> 01:02:14,800
just they were The script was terrible, Like there's just no Stori. It's

842
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,519
just you know, the whole Equalizer
saying where he like looks out for the

843
01:02:19,199 --> 01:02:22,519
you know, normy I ever seen
it? Sorry, Yeah, the first

844
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:24,559
two are okay, you know,
and this one was just this one was

845
01:02:24,599 --> 01:02:29,039
phoning it in. So it's based
on the TV show from the eighties,

846
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:32,599
I think, where this former CIA
guy like looks out for regular people and

847
01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:38,039
gets revenge for them. It's like
vigilante stuff. And uh, but it

848
01:02:38,199 --> 01:02:43,480
was just he'sn't dumb off, you
know what. It was terrible. But

849
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:46,800
anyway, I watched two non like
what would you call them, I guess

850
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,280
documentaries. One is on blue zones. Do you know what those are?

851
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,400
Where people live really like two hundreds. I watched that documentary. I watched

852
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,599
that while I was working out.
I actually liked it, even though I

853
01:02:57,679 --> 01:03:00,559
didn't believe it. Does that make
sense? Like, yeah, I never

854
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,280
like documentaries because I never believe them. But I was like, even the

855
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,880
silly things about how he had this
theory that people having to like get up

856
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,760
and down from the floor and climbing
steps, how that can be good for

857
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,679
people. And I was talking to
my mom about it because my mom and

858
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,199
dad have like a multi level house
and that's not great because my dad has

859
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,239
some mobility issues. But then I
was like, maybe that's what's working well

860
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,079
for them. And they always garden, so they're up and down, you

861
01:03:24,159 --> 01:03:28,840
know, gardening, and it's probably
very healthy for them. I literally don't

862
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,639
buy anything in that show. I
don't believe in a min for a second

863
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,480
that any of that's true, because
there are tons of other places where people

864
01:03:35,559 --> 01:03:37,920
have to go up and downstairs and
garden all the time, that they don't

865
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,679
live long. Why not, you
know, like it just it was not

866
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:44,840
very insist, yes, exactly.
And the other show I watched was it's

867
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,119
called like the Twin Experiment or something
where they have all these twins and they

868
01:03:47,159 --> 01:03:51,320
give them different food. Yeah,
but only for like three weeks, right,

869
01:03:52,519 --> 01:03:55,599
how much can you tell in just
a few That's another thing. But

870
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,280
it's not even my point. Any
of that's not even my point. I

871
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:02,159
like watching those shows just because I
like to see how people live and stuff.

872
01:04:02,199 --> 01:04:05,400
I don't know, it's weird whenever
I'm watching like The Baking Show,

873
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,800
and my favorite part is when they
show like their house and how they live

874
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,000
their lives. I don't even know
why. I don't know why they're so

875
01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:15,320
boring. But anyway, both these
shows, and if you watch it,

876
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:20,920
you'll know. On the other one
get into like anti corporate bs and scare

877
01:04:21,039 --> 01:04:26,000
mongering on global warming that had nothing
to do with any of the show.

878
01:04:26,239 --> 01:04:30,079
It makes it impossible for me to
watch, Like they get I forgotten now

879
01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:32,239
which shows which? But on the
twin one they get into how meat is

880
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,519
so bad and you know, how
we procure meat is so bad and maybe

881
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:39,760
it is sometimes I'm not saying,
but you know. And then they talk

882
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:45,000
about like Brazilian rainforest and it's just
so annoying. And they have on guests.

883
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,239
Corey Booker was one of the was
he on the Blue Zone one or

884
01:04:48,239 --> 01:04:51,039
the other one? Like? What
is Corey Booker doing? Another? Once

885
01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:54,039
I saw him, I'm like,
I can't trust anything on this show.

886
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:59,159
He's not especially smart man or a
scientific man or anything like that. Anyway,

887
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:01,159
I'm just sick of it. I
wanted to complain about that. Yeah,

888
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:06,159
is one thing I don't buy.
I think if you understand documentaries more

889
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:10,880
as entertainment and it's about who you
can get to come on camera to talk

890
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:16,559
and how to fill a certain period
of time. Sorry, that it makes

891
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:19,599
a lot more sense. Yeah,
And he's talking about how bad like our

892
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,679
agricultural world. We have to feed
millions and millions of people. These people

893
01:05:24,679 --> 01:05:28,440
want everyone to be an organic farmer. We're going to all die of hunger

894
01:05:28,679 --> 01:05:31,119
if we did that. I mean, it is just insane what these these

895
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,039
these radicals want to do to us, and it's injected into like every I

896
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:39,239
cannot watch a nature show where they're
not talking about global warming. Just there

897
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:44,079
is none that you can watch that
doesn't go into alarmism. I think that

898
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,360
that's just the dominant religion for the
class of people that do these things.

899
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,000
So it's it's just sort of like
paying homage to their gods. They have

900
01:05:51,159 --> 01:05:56,239
to do it, and if you
understand that you're in a different religion than

901
01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:01,360
they are, makes it bearable.
I guess to better religion. I need

902
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:11,239
to find a religion. Don't say
it by wait my cough, my golf

903
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,400
is not. It is partly because
I was, like I think we talked

904
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,440
about last week how I was sick
and it has been a bear to get

905
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:26,000
over. But last night I landed
at Chicago and had I think it was

906
01:06:26,159 --> 01:06:30,039
like seven minutes to make my connection, which according to the United app,

907
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:36,440
sorry like make the connection before it
stopped boarding. My United app said that

908
01:06:36,519 --> 01:06:42,280
it was nineteen minute walk, So
that's like you have to get off the

909
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:48,639
plane and then walk for nineteen minutes. And my colleague and I sprinted or

910
01:06:48,719 --> 01:06:54,920
tried to sprint, which quickly had
to stop because I couldn't sprint from this

911
01:06:55,280 --> 01:07:00,159
very far away you know, Gate
e at O'Hare to Gate Sea at the

912
01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:03,400
far end of of course, like
the far end of the sea concourse or

913
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:08,480
whatever. It was so bad and
I mean I try to can pass out

914
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,000
well then, so we technically didn't
make it in time. We were still

915
01:07:13,079 --> 01:07:15,960
like two or three minutes late.
But then they just held the door open

916
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:19,320
for another i don't know, twenty
minutes to let all the other connections make

917
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,639
it so we didn't need to do
it at all. And then we sat

918
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,039
on the on the plane for a
while while they de iced, and we

919
01:07:27,159 --> 01:07:29,400
finally made it in and it was
all you know, it was all good.

920
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:31,960
Did you think that the planes,
if they know they have a person

921
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,480
who's connecting from under the freight,
should automatically wait for that connection. I

922
01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:39,920
don't know, because I don't know
how that would affect the rest of their

923
01:07:40,119 --> 01:07:43,159
travel schedule or whether it you know, whether you just kind of make a

924
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,639
set I'm looking aft like if I
met to say, if I am the

925
01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:49,320
person connecting, they should wait.
I truly felt like such an idiot,

926
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:54,920
like nearly passing out and then having
just tons of time to sit there and

927
01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:01,840
wait. And that's where my cough
is from. Two Okay, I watched

928
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:08,360
two things, both at the recommendation
of a kid, and the first one

929
01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:13,519
was I Am David, which is
based on It's actually kind of interesting.

930
01:08:13,519 --> 01:08:15,319
Who's the guy who directed Bridesmaids?
Do you know what I'm talking about.

931
01:08:15,319 --> 01:08:18,399
It's like Paul fig or something like
that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

932
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:24,880
He directed this film which is very
different from Bridesmaids, and it's based

933
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:29,960
on a popular young adult story.
I think about a kid who escapes a

934
01:08:30,119 --> 01:08:36,520
camp in Bulgaria and tries to get
to Denmark, and it's about the story

935
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:42,399
of how that escape happens, who
helps him escape, and how he makes

936
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:46,680
it. It was very well done. I really enjoyed it. An early

937
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,439
movie of his, so before he
was doing that kind of yes. And

938
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:58,319
then the second thing is I started
watching The Chosen, which you had recommended,

939
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,399
like I don't know, a year
ago, and I had thought was

940
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:08,479
not my speed. But the kids
have been like really insisting that they wanted

941
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,279
to watch it, and I am
totally hooked and I'm only two episodes in.

942
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,840
I love it. Told Ja I
Toldia I like it. I think

943
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,680
that for the money they spend,
the production value act they get a lot

944
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,720
out of the money they spend on
that show. The production value is good.

945
01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:27,680
They don't get bogged down in having
to create How can I say?

946
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,880
They don't get bogged down and having
to make the world seem completely real?

947
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,199
Like the characters are real enough,
I thought, And I'm interesting. I'm

948
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:38,239
not an expert obviously on the New
Testament or anything, but they add a

949
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:42,359
lot of like and I don't know
if this is okay with Christians. Apparently

950
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:45,119
it is because everyone loves the show. But they add a lot of personality

951
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,079
or depth to the people who are
already in the Bible. So I will

952
01:09:49,119 --> 01:09:53,680
say that one of the kids doesn't
like that because it's not in the Bible.

953
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,399
You know, you get these backstories
on people that may or may not

954
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,880
be true, and that bothers some
people. But the way I look at

955
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,399
the reason why it doesn't bother me
is that we know that every single one

956
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:11,880
of these apostles and other key figures
has a backstory, and as long as

957
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,880
you don't claim it's the gospel truth
what you're thinking it might be, I

958
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,600
think it helps and what I like
about it is a lot of times people

959
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,560
sometimes put the apostles up on a
pedestal, despite what's in the New Testament

960
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:30,359
about kind of what mess ups they
were frequently and having a more fleshed out

961
01:10:30,399 --> 01:10:35,079
personality helps you remember this is amazing. There these were real people who were

962
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:40,960
encountering God in this setting and what
that would have been like. And it

963
01:10:41,079 --> 01:10:46,880
makes it so much more amazing to
meditate on the appearance of Jesus at this

964
01:10:47,039 --> 01:10:51,039
time. In my view, so
I don't mind it, but I anticipate

965
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:55,560
there would be so many areas where
you could have someone say something that is

966
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,359
in contradiction to what scripture says,
and so when that I'm sure that'll happen

967
01:10:59,359 --> 01:11:04,039
at some point, then be angry. I think the humanizing of the characters

968
01:11:04,239 --> 01:11:11,560
is like brings people into the story
better than typically would. I'm not saying

969
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,479
we're improving on the New Testament or
anything like that, but I just think

970
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,359
it's a separate thing that might bring
people to the Bible. It's like,

971
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,920
what I love about the Old Testament
is how flawed and real so many of

972
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:26,399
the characters are. Moses can't speak
well. David is like constantly you know,

973
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,920
oscillation around, yeah exactly, and
doing bad things, but also you

974
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,319
know, deeply religious in another way. But so the people seem so real,

975
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:40,560
are you know, the way that
they're depicted that it is, It's

976
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,399
what I like about about it.
So, by the way, I had

977
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,600
to take a long drive last week
and I listened to one of my favorite

978
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,920
books of all time, Paul Johnson's
The History of the Jews. It is

979
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:54,920
a few care and want to know
more about, like ancient Judaism. Especially

980
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:59,119
he is and he's like he was
he passed away, but he's a religious

981
01:11:59,159 --> 01:12:02,720
Catholic, I believe before he was
Orthodox Catholic. But so his perspective on

982
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,600
it is amazing, and it is
just, I think the best sort of

983
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,199
secular historical book on Jews. It's
just so interesting to listen to each time.

984
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,239
That's a good recommendation. I would
like to do that, yeah,

985
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,840
yeah, yeah. By the way, I'm reading about a history of the

986
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,000
Jews because I'm back to reading scripture
after taking a little time off and that

987
01:12:21,079 --> 01:12:26,680
wasn't working for me. So I
finally finished Jeremiah Have you read that?

988
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,039
A long time ago? But I
was just listening to Paul Johnson talk about

989
01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:35,279
how insane that book is and how
insane he is, and trying to decipher

990
01:12:35,319 --> 01:12:39,399
what he's actually talking about. Well, yeah, it does have like a

991
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,600
weird you have to kind of read
it carefully, I guess. But also

992
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,279
just the way that it keeps on
over and over and over talking about the

993
01:12:47,359 --> 01:12:53,640
destruction of Jerusalem is terrifying because there's
a lot of prediction of it happening,

994
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,199
and then there's it happening, and
then there's like more talking about it happening,

995
01:12:57,239 --> 01:13:01,119
and it's like ruthless and unrelenting,
and it I was terrified reading it.

996
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:04,119
And then what I thought it was
funny is like Lamentations is just five

997
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:10,520
chapters of kind of summing up all
invents and much more hopeful despite the name

998
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,880
Lamentations. And so now I'm in
Ezekiel, which is also super interesting,

999
01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:19,840
super interesting character, and it begins
with like, so here's how I encountered

1000
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,800
God, and here's here's what that
looked like. So Jeremiah is the guy

1001
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,880
who's just like, listen, don't
even bother protecting yourself. Nebekinezer is the

1002
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,439
hand of God, and you've been
bad and he's going to destroy you.

1003
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:35,800
And I think a lot of people
probably didn't appreciate it time, so it

1004
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:41,359
was actually kind of a brave position
to take that Ye that your life and

1005
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:45,720
that the nation has been predetermined.
So yeah, Well I'm same with Ezekiel

1006
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,520
because he figures out he's going to
have to be prophesying destruction and death there.

1007
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:54,239
And one of the things that God
tells him is if you don't warn

1008
01:13:54,319 --> 01:13:57,680
these people, I will hold you
accountable for the fact that they don't repent.

1009
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,960
Like if you tell them and they
don't repent on them, but if

1010
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,439
you don't tell them and they don't
repent, you're going to be responsible,

1011
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:08,600
which is a good lesson for us
all I think we can't control what people

1012
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:13,000
do, but we should always speak
the truth. Yeah. I like that.

1013
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That's a good lesson. All right, Well that's a nice way to

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end it. Always trying to find
a segree to end. By the way,

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David, I love I love talking
to you for this, and I

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always forget that we're doing like we're
recording this, but I so enjoy it

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and I'm so glad we get to
do it. Sometimes there are those pauses

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and I'm like, oh, wait
a minute, or is that allowed on

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radio. I thought it's not,
but yeah, this is. Thank you.

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It's always nice to see you and
have this conversation. I love that

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you're we get to talk about the
Bible, not just politics. And I

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don't know what else to say.
Oh wait, people need to email us.

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Email us at radio at the Federalist
dot com. We love to get

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01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,039
your mail. There's a you know, I think we should again do like

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answer email show at some point because
there are a lot of interesting questions so

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we never really get to them,
and people are I just the time they

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take. I don't always agree with
them, but the time they take to

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write these letters, it means something
to me at least I'm sure to you

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as well. So until then,
be lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray.