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Welcome. All a chayo with you
today program with our specialist in partner tar

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welcome and let' s enter right. What' s this about us living

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together. Sometimes this one let'
s live together is based on naivety,

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also based on what' s going
to be better. And many of us

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are leaving because it' s not
so good at home and to be able

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to leave we need a lot of
important things, like the economy we'

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ve talked to you about. Don' t be self- sufficient, be

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independent so they don' t tell
us what to do, criticize us,

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etcetera. And before we go to
live together, we' re gonna let

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her fall in love. How it
has to happen to you in twinning,

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where you see the wonderful person and
then go on to love, which involves

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discipline, to be what involves work, as we have heard a thousand times

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made to give water to the little
plant has to be so. And of

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the difficult things is to be able
to put limits to friends, to families

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of origin not and to check our
impulse control well, because if we are

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young, it is orale we go, we throw ourselves, if we can,

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we will take the risk how fun
or what unique, how deep,

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how cute not. And all that
gets dangerous. Already getting into everyday life,

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having to pay what you have to
pay, in responsibility. You touch

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the kids and I say kids between
the ages of seventeen and twenty- four,

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think about it Wait a bit,
you don' t need to hurry.

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If I stay with the idea that
I have to give a little time

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to have gone to love before I
go to live together. How do I

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know I' m already going to
love. That' s a very good

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question. That' s a very
good question. That means it doesn'

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t stop to make it clearer.
They' re starting to see. We

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' re starting to see the differences. That' s what I call relationship

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adjustments. I don' t think
I' m a little disappointed. Look

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what you' re doing to me. I didn' t expect this from

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you no and those are the first
clues, because they are questions that come

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more often. The emotions we call
negatives, which are not necessarily negative.

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Yeah, it' s disappointment.
Something is no longer happening, I am

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no longer number one as it was. Everyone who' s going to start

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taking a little bit of their life
and that' s where you wait to

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work it out and you' re
going to spend love are okay ironic.

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What about marriage then? Unlike living
together. Marriage, as you know,

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is something in front of society.
It wasn' t done. It'

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s the legal aspect where in front
of an authority you decide to join.

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Today, this can disunite you and
there is no need and cause for divorce.

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But I' m not going to
talk about this. So it'

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s legal and I recommend that couples
who are going to get married where they

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' re going to have a commitment
and agreement, right now, let'

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s see the difference, have a
life project, there' s an intention,

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a responsibility of everyone for what they
contribute or what they take away from

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marriage. In marriage you have to
have a positive attitude that we are going

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to do this together, be a
team, take some dic pri discipline and

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have an intention, an intention to
be together or to make family. The

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difference then with marriages is that you
have within a legal framework that often protects

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you, protects you sometimes in instances, for example, of the link,

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of the social insurance, of list, etcetera. It' s not necessarily

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that easy. If you are the
living person, there are no certain things

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that people prefer to know then that
to enter there are two people and you

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have to know well what it is
to get out of there only one.

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Given what you just said. This
would then mean that everyone who first lived

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together would have to end up matrimonying
not at all. I' m not

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at all. Thinking like that.
There aren' t some people where marriage

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has the pretty part to turn white. Okay. That might go to church

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to have a big party in living
together. They also have this tradition of

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doing a ritual there, but I
don' t think everyone living together goes

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to marriage. Today we see that
the order of things is no longer cool

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is the same. It used to
be courtship, marriage, and children.

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Now sometimes there are first children living
next to marriage. Then things have changed.

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They don' t have the same
order anymore. Don' t ask

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me which is the best. I
can tell you that' s what'

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s best for that couple and how
they talk about what' s important to

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you and me and why and what
it symbolizes, so being able to talk

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about it in another couple We can
talk about what it' s about about

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marriage and ask, like, ten
questions or give the public ten questions so

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they can solve them before they get
ready to take their firm. All right,

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even if the signature could be in
the case of living together symbolically.

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But already thinking about this concept you' re talking about, I do believe

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that the human doesn' t like
to have these rituals by the way,

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not because they mark something, they
mark a before and a after. So

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living together. I' d invite
you to do a little ceremony. They

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can be with their parents, they
can be with great friends. Not having

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a beer being together, but it' s something that marks. That'

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s why we have it from the
earliest times, not death rituals, auti

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christening rituals, not this when when
you have your first menstruation, when you

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go from child to adult, because
it helps is something, it' s

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something cute, something symbol, and
it helps in the little head, it

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doesn' t help to make it
clear that you' re already going to

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leave it, that' s what' s behind and you' re going

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to form in a new person.
There' s a transition to make now.

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The difference you did make Tari is
between falling in love and the transit

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to love. What would be the
basis of love, the basis of love.

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It is an intense feeling that what
wants to push you is to the

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Union with another person, where you
fully expect reciprocity, where you want certainty

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that the other person is there for
you that you feel that he will be

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a team, that there will be
continuity that he will return, that every

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time he leaves he returns, because
there are some couples where they play.

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I' m angry, I'
m angry and I' m back for

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two days, etcetera. And all
they put in is restlessness, they get

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scared, and I don' t
recommend that. No. What' s

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also important is predictability, not knowing
what' s going to happen that you

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' re going to be there.
For me and of course it contains joy,

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desire to live together, communicate,
communicate with respect, communicate clearly,

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communicate with a desire to know the
other, not only that we know ourselves,

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because we humans are not selfish enough
or self- centered where we want

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you to understand me. I want
you to know what' s happening to

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me and we don' t have
the same for each other. And another

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thing I like inside love is the
creative part. The creative part is what

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we can accomplish together or we can
achieve apart, because we are two separate

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beings, but by constantly bridging into
being, we return with later all that

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love implies. Yes, what else
is there to look at where the most

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is written, is written more in
the romantic part as much as we have

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in the books, is the love
of the couple. No, it is

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deep and intense and, at the
same time, it has all its difficulties,

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its difficulties. It' s not
even what we love. Sometimes we

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hate them for the moment, but
we give them a preference. I want

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the public to know that hatred also
exists within a loving relationship, because it

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is not momentary hatred and it has
to do with the hurt of the ego.

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There is also love for children.
Many couples confuse a little love for

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children than love for the couple.
They' re two totally different books.

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But that someone wants to rip off
the other' s leaves because well,

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yeah, because it gives him,
it makes him jealous, it gives him

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a sense of competition. He'
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for me, no, and now
I have to share it with this beautiful

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little girl where I see him who
might live for her, etcetera. And

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that' s something to talk about
And it happens very son, Hi Mom,

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who' s turned to see her
kid, which is a beauty.

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There is nothing more unique, and
there are others and there are other women,

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other men where they are also forgotten
that you have to exist the love

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towards the children and decide to turn
just with the couple, then we are

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what we can do. Supposedly,
it' s every other love that makes

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me exquisite love to your friends.
No, and your friends are there who

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are going through the good and the
bad, where there is honesty, where

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there is help you in difficult times. It' s a good support for

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you at loudspeakers. There' s
nothing like that. And let' s

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make the distinction right. How men
make their friendships and how we, women,

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do not seem entirely different at all. No, when you start seeing

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it, it' s not sports, drinking. Well the practices that many

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of them have have talks of ah
well, you' ve seen Fulanieta as

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such not as tasty is, etcetera. And even if I don' t

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do anything, they' re bragging
about it, because that' s pretty

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much the male code. But there
isn' t. No, I don

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' t mean there isn' t. But it' s rare to say

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what' s wrong with you,
how you are, I talked about how

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you' re customers. While women
talk about everything, we practice our emotional

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life, we practice our children,
we talk about the fear we have,

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this one of the dysfunctions that happen. We are waiting for an intervention,

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support, to tell us the truth. I' ve explored that between why

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r several of my patients say good
and how your friendship relationship is has nothing

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to do with it, because sometimes
you lose the sport, live in the

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canteen, be alone, alone in
a group, as well as Toby'

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s club. And women are very
different and do not touch with time there

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is a vacuum that happens to them
because they have no one to empty all

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their emotionality with. We talked about
this way in which we make friendship between

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women and men. And you mentioned
something in the end about this void that

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can suddenly be generated specifically in men. I got it right. Yeah,

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totally, it' s totally part
of how we educate. We don'

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t educate the man to be strong, not to cry, not to be

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afraid, to go forward. Yes, and many of the emotions we consider

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once again negative and we will talk
about that in another program. You don

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' t have to repress them,
you have to suppress them, you have

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to exile them, etcetera. You
don' t have to have strength,

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you have to have courage, push
forward to sustain everything. Then there are

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certain emotions that they feel should not
be felt and apart, they are projected

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to women. That' s not
weakness. However, there is a gap.

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A hole is like you' re
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be a man. Part of being
a man, sadly being disconnected. And

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women want that connection. And we' re fried and watered and fried with

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the connection and the man says well, not enough, because apart he doesn

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' t know what it is but
we' ve helped educate. So and

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in time, and in time they
do not go in with very certain distresses.

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They feel isolated, not and feel
that something there is a vacuum,

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it enters into a kind of depression
that neither accept the depression of men,

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because soos of old, as you
know and fall into certain crises hea crisis.

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I don' t know if 40s
don' t, or 50s,

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etcetera. But between menus you listen
to those emotions don' t go away.

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They' re there, you have
them suppressed, but at some point

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they' re going out. And
that doesn' t talk between men,

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I mean, we' re talking
about a reality gene, of course,

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of course we talk and talk about
how things work out. Then, pushing

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to resolve, everyone has a help
and radiance of ideas and do not stop

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from either friends to ask a little
more to have a more complete view of

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what is going on so that they
can give a better solution. All men

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are seen not how to fix and
grab things straight. Not then shall we

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return to what should be done as
the couple within the relationship, How we

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handle as a couple within the subject
of today, of relationship, of marriage,

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by living together and so on,
that which begins to happen to man

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within the relationship, first it is
not clear that one does not see because

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one is, that is, the
couple, involved in settling the marriage within

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those of the rules and the canons
that are required. Where I' m

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going to take care of children more
or less predominantly because that doesn' t

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mean that women aren' t going
out to work that if they go out,

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but they mostly touch us and men
have a relationship with what I see

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is distant emotionally with their children.
Not then does the couple not necessarily feel

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the connected. They' re connected, as you know, through sex,

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that has very beautiful things. It' s not the most sex by sex,

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but there are many windows in that
that we could also talk about that

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at some last moment with reference to
the couple and the woman is the one

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who starts to give the campion or
the change is I want to know how

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you are. I want you to
talk to me. We don' t

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have conversations anymore. And that has
to do with two things. One where

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the differences come in, where everyone
is everyone, and the other is the

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woman. I think it' s
the one that moves the emotional world.

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I' m not saying we have
one part of our brain that does it

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and another part where we were also
educated. The problem with us, the

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women, is how we screwed up
with this, not how we wanted to

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reconnect wanting and the man doesn'
t understand. We' re not for

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them from another planet, definitely to
see what you want, we' re

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gonna figure it out, et cetera. But we enter into the subtleties of

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the human, we enter into the
vulnerable parts, it is, we enter

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into what is divine, without speaking
of the part of God, I heard

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of that which is going to connect
us, which is going to make us

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feel alive. And how hard that
is, how hard No, well,

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you and I do therapy, and
that' s why we' re not

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gonna be defending. But that doesn' t mean he has to lead that

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way. There are others, but
they dare a little to see inside what

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is happening to them instead of running
solu or going to throw a drink,

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because it happens a lot now that
the express exit is to go for a

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drink or to dredge or why,
because many things happen physically of what goes

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body, they feel it, they
don' t want to feel that and

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if they stay to feel it,
it happens eh, but you have to

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put the intention. Then I wonder
how we help that. So, if

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you want some discipline or observation to
see what' s there and I swear

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you' re not going to get
old and okay. Or we went to

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love and how this happens throughout the
relationship, especially when the relationship remains.

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But what happened to falling in love
doesn' t suddenly retouch a little bit

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of yes? Yeah? Yeah?
I touch a little bit not love says

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it also is that I would like
you not to see me again and that

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you dropped your eyelashes Come to me
that not good. I' m gonna

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be a little cynical. Definitely.
No. Falling in love is the state

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in which you see things as they
are. Not because you selectively decide to

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see coincidences and besides there' s
what we call projections. Okay, projections.

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It' s what you have inside
that you want to deposit it with

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the other and then the other ends
up being for your boy, your king,

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your magician, your only thing.
Not then wow ay there is and

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it' s very nice to fall
in love. There are some people who

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are kind of addicted to that because
they want to feel the butterflies, they

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want to feel this body movement,
this need for together how we miss each

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other, and so on. But
the truth happens, it happens and it

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doesn' t happen and not because
it happens and it doesn' t mean

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it' s not the couple for
you. You have to start seeing yourself,

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also because we disappoint each other and
often want to hold this image of

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yourself that is not and we give
you the best we can. In the

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case of women, we get more
flirty, we dress in a way,

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we smile, etcetera, etcetera.
Man is more gallant, not this and

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strength, I protect you, etcetera. You think it is possible to maintain

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God yes, of course, no, of course, not foolishly agree what

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you explained to us and I just
used this compromise agreement. When I didn

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' t fulfill it I' m
missing myself and in the deal I'

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m missing you, exactly, that' s exactly how I see it differently.

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One is I commit myself because I
align myself with my values, with

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my principles, with my intentions.
No, okay That' s how I

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' m engaged. I' m
committed to the exercise, I' m

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committed to the job. Now the
agreement is, in effect, between two

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and you said so I declare and
very well, and there are agreements and

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there are compromises and then in both
there is both living together and in marriage,

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although there is an instance where the
legal goes in there as well.

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But they' re already, they' re subtleties, not anymore, and

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I don' t know if they' re subtleties. I think they'

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re very big things. Rather,
it is that sometimes the great is in

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the subtle just so it is.
Indeed, thank you very much. I

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think you leave us with a lot
of thoughts here that we' ll probably

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be snooping around in these little capsules
that we' re having with you over

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the days and that, well,
people really appreciate it and write and comment

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and value your participations very much.
So we' ll have you on another

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show. So thank you, thank
you, thank you, and until the

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next and thank you until then.
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