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Okay, Karen, I've been looking
forward to this one for a very long

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time. I know, all right, I talk all the time about how

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I live on heaven on earth because
somehow I was able to bamboozle you into

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marrying me, and the fact that
you're still with me today after all these

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years and everything we've been through.
There's just no other words that would fit

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the bill when it comes to describing
my life with you. But heaven on

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Earth, right, Well, that's
very see now, that's true, that's

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reality. But now, what if
everyone on this planet could experience heaven without

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needing to marry you? Well?
I was going to be excited about the

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thought of polygamy for a minute there, but that would be just a lot

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of work. Well yeah, well, what if anyone could visit the heaven,

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oh, spend as much time there
as they wanted, speak to whomever

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they wanted while there, and come
back without any of the petty near death

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experienced side effects. Oh well that
would be nice. I'm telling you prepare

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yourself, because this show promises to
be nothing short of heavenly. Welcome to

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this kept, metaphysicians. My name
is Will and I'm gart and unlike Molder

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and Scully both want to believe.
So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

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We've talked to people deeply entrenched in
the spiritual and metaphysical world. We've

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thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a coven of witches

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and wait, you joined a coven
yep, all on the interests of finding

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something, anything that will prove that
there's something beyond this physical, three dimensional

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world we all live in. This
is the skeptic metaphysicians. Okay, I'm

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about to show my age here.
A long time ago, there was a

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song called Things that make You go
Hmmm. It was done by Scene C

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Music Factory. It's a group or
a band or whatever you want to call

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him, back in the eighties or
nineties. I forget how long ago,

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but it was a while ago,
not today. As I was reading one

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of my books that I read after
my meditations in the mornings, I read

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something that made me go reminded me
that song. So I'm reading the Upanishads,

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which is an ancient Hindu scripture,
and it's kind of a companion book

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to the bag of Aghida. Some
people even believe that it's better. It's

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a better book than the Bag of
Aghida. Some people think otherwise, backwards,

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the other way around, whatever you
prefer. But one thing's for sure.

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Hindu scripture. It's actually it's pretty
mind blowing when you come to it

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and you really read into it.
But anyway, one of the passages in

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the book that I'm reading is this, I'm going to butcher this, so

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please forgive me. It reads like
this. It says, those would depart

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from this world without knowing who they
are or what they truly desire, have

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no freedom here or hereafter. But
those who leave here knowing who they are

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and what they truly desire, have
freedom everywhere, both in this world and

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in the next. That's it.
That's the whole thing. So the reason

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why that made me go is because
throughout the course of doing this show,

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we've heard a lot of stories and
lots of different opinions as to what happens

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when we pass on to the next
life. Some folks have said that you

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immediately go into a life review and
then go into your next life. You're

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reincarnated. Others feel like you're given
a choice whether or not to be incarnate

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or spend some time in the hereafter, maybe come back and help others in

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spirit guide form, or stay or
not come back at all. And yet

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there's a third faction of people who
believe that we humanity is endlessly trapped in

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a cycle of reincarnation as a bad
thing. So this a pun a shot

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if you take it as gospel.
Pardon the pun might just give us an

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answer to why there's so many different
opinions, like what if the act of

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awakening here on this three dimensional plane
is what catapults us when we cross over

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into having the choice as to whether
or not to come back again or not,

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or what we do and don't do, And those who don't wake up

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might find themselves in that eternal cycle
of reincarnation, forced to come back again

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and again until they do awaken.
Now, I don't know if that resonates

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with you, but to me,
wow, does that ever resonate? That

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makes all the sense in a world
to me, and it puts things in

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such great perspective for me in my
mind, in my belief system. That

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means to me that as more and
more of us awakened to who we really

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are in this reality, more and
more of us will have choices once we

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cross over as to whether or not
to come back and help humanity, come

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back and relive a life, or
stay maybe help from the other side,

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And that's I don't know, it's
it's kind of comforting to me to know

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that maybe since I'm in the process
of awakening. I know, I get

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a long way to go, but
at least I'm in the process of awakening.

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Well, maybe I'll have just a
little bit more freedom in deciding what

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I do once crossover. Doesn't that
feel good? It does to me.

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I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Send us an email or a voicemail.

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a voicemail directly there, or you
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Let us know what your thoughts are
on this. Does this make sense

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to you or is it just a
bunch of malarkey that I'm just making up

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because I'm on a high from the
meditation I just did. Either way,

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really would love to hear what you
have to say about this, because man's

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it struck me right be junior eyes
today, all right, enough about things

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that make you go hm oh,
Actually speaking of things that make you go.

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Let's move on to today's guest.
Hey there, I'm Will and I

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and today we're off to Heaven.
Our guest is a past board member of

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the Newton Institute, whose mission is
to uncover the mysteries of the afterlife.

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Now, with the help of more
than two hundred and fifty trained facilitators scattered

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across forty eight countries, they've actually
discovered happens to a person at death,

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where they go, and what they
do while they are there waiting to reincarnate.

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We know this process to be called
life between lives, of course,

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and with over seventy thousand successful sessions, they have in a sense mapped out

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the afterlife or heaven. Wow.
Yes, he's the author of three Hours

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and thirty three Minutes in Heaven,
based on his own experiences with the afterlife,

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and he's here today to walk us
through the astounding modality reinforced and welcome

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to the captainin of revisions. How
are you well? Thanks? Thanks,

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I'd love that we can talk about
this in a fun way, as some

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people get too serious about it.
But back at the nineties, Michael Newton,

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who was a hypnotherapist, he was
regular Inmo therapist. He was not

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particularly a spiritual guy, didn't have
a particular religion he followed. He say

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he was more agnostic than atheists or
any but he just didn't know, you

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know, it's red agnostics. They
just will I don't know. And he

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was helping a person I forget now
if it was to stop smoking or lose

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weight, you know, one of
the sayings hypnoth or pistwo. And so

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it's end of the session, would
count people up so that they come back,

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you know, fully aware, non
there, so they're not walking around

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like a zombie, you know,
the rest of the day. So he

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starts being yeah, it's like so
he starts to count the client up and

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the client refuses and says no,
want to come out of it, knowsis.

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He says, well, come on, you know I'm gonna failt to

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one to five and you'll be and
says no. He said why, and

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the person says, I want to
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Michael's thinking, okay, I'm gonna
wake you up out of trance and you're

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gonna be fine. You'll go home
and see your friends. Says no,

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I want to see my friends.
All of a sudden, the client is

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like, whoa, they're so and
so, and he's talking to somebody as

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if he's seeing somebody in his inner
vision or something. And come to fully

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down what he had done is he
had gone back to happing her back home

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where we all come from, and
he was having a reunion with some of

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his friends that were already passed on
or passed away. Finally, the session

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ended and Michael couldn't get that out
of his mind. He says, what

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the heck is this? I mean, this is just bizarre. But Michael,

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being the kind of person he was, he was this so curious and

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so everything. He proceeded to figure
this out with seven thousand different clients.

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He would get them the trains that
he would just suggest to them that they

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would go home. Well, the
process was hid and missed for a while.

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They finally started fine tuning it and
even to this day, we're fine

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tuning the process to make it more
successful. We're you know, the percentage

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right now is about ninety percent of
people to want to have the session,

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want to visit the afterlife for a
few hours. Can do it? Hang

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on, I got intervited for a
second. You just dropped the bombshell there.

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And I want to make sure people
understand what you're saying. You're seeing

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that on the very first session,
if someone goes to one of these you

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or one of the other two hundred
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you have a ninety percent chance of
reaching having ninety nine zero. That's

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yeah. Okay, let me are
qualified that. I would say within one

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or two sessions about it still about
eighty percent about my life's about eighty percent

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of successful in the first try.
The other ones. I do. What

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I do is I don't charge her
a second session, because that way people

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can relax, you know. I
said, look, if you need a

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second session, I'll do it for
it's for free. Within a few months,

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you know, let things settle when
they come back. About ninety percent

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of them were successful. Then I
had one woman recently. The first session,

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nothing much happened. Second session,
she was able to go to a

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past life. And I'll explain the
past life deal in the second too.

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Why we use that as a way
to get to where we're going. Okay,

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second session, she experienced the past
life, which which she was like

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the Kate woman. I'd be walking
around with with the bag of stuff and

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her husband was hunting and they end
up getting lost or something. She died

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in the snow, you know.
Somewhere after that, she says, well,

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wow, that I says, if
I'm making a past life, going

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to be some woman in the first
thing, following a guy in the snow,

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so he could it's just like a
princess, you know, yea or

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something. So that intrigued during us, so she came back for a third

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session. She was able to visit
another past life, and all of a

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sudden she sees herself pass away.
She turns around and there's like a guy

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there, but then she's in what
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I think we think it's a real
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and they just feel or somewhere,
but they don't see anything. All they

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do is feel good, you know, like, wow, I'm in this

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neat place, but I'm not seeing
anything in my inner vision or anything.

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We have a way now that we've
learned around that, and we just take

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our time a little bit, let
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eventually, like happened with me,
because it took me two times. First

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session, I got all freaked out
kind of like what's going on? And

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I couldn't settle down. They got
my left brain, my analytical brand too

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much in it, so we had
to stop to says it. But three

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or four days later they worked with
me. We did it and I went

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to the past life, which was
pretty cool. And then and then I'm

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in this black and I'm not seeing
anything. Well to facilitate or new to

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just take his time with me.
And about ten minutes later, so I'm

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just slowing this black, I saw
a pinpoint of like rent, like a

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dot of rent, and he said, well, just kind of float over

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towards it. It in a microsecond, there was I was out of there.

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There was my guide and I had
the most incredible experience of my life

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so far. It's like, look, I just had to write it down

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because it was just so interesting that
me, Reagan. This even at hypnotherapy

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school when I went for two years, I was the last guy in the

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class to be hypnotized. You know, I kept volunteering every time pick me,

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pick me, and I'd go up
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is nothing. You know, I'm
from first hand experience, Reagan. I'm

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telling you it's because apparently we wanted
too much. Yeah, that's the one

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thing. If you if you're pushing
and trying, it's harder to happen.

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You just have to relax. Because
the process that we found work is that

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we just take people to the natural
process of falling asleep. That's paying attention

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to the breath and every breath breathing
in, and when you breathe out and

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you get to the very bottom of
the breath before you breathe in again,

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there's a real quiet. It's like
nothing's moving in your body. You're not

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using no muscles are moving or anything. And it's kind of like you kind

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of ratchet down each breath you're taking. You're following your sleep, get down

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to the bottom, you go a
little deeper, and then you breathe in.

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You down the bottom. It's not
like a light switch, you know,

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people when you're just out, you
know like that, it's a process

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of falling asleep. Okay, So
what we do, because we're communicating with

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the person right is they're just about
to fall asleep. We're communicating with them,

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so we kind of keep them in
that relaxed state that's right on the

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verge of falling asleep. It seems
that that this is a natural thing,

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like if people have the ability on
their own to just relax, but to

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keep themselves just before falling asleep.
That way, I call it a God

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switch. But it seems that at
that point people easily access memories of past

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lives. Maybe I've been in having
thousand times before. In our research,

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we found out that's our true home. You know, it changes the paradigm

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a little bit when you realize they're
not created in the womb, but God

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created you on the other side,
and you're just down here visiting. Okay,

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that even makes more sense as you
think about it, that God creates

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us and then we decided to have
experience and learning grow to be more loving,

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like a play that we want to
be on where you can play a

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certain character, where you can learn
a certain thing that you wouldn't otherwise.

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It's easy for people to understand if
I say that we're down here and we're

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to play, and during our play, in different scenes, different people show

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up, sometimes nice, sometimes our
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these huge learning experiences. You know
that we have to deal what we have

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to deal with the difficult things in
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sitting in a movie theater and you're
watching your play. So what I do

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to help people prepare for a sie
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the homework, what they do is
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characters in their play. You know, they write just a few sentences about

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them, so we know who the
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list of questions that they want to
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of the questions are general. We
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to be born? What was their
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purpose? What's the mission? What
do we hope to learn? What we

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hope to help others? Okay,
we ask all those questions, but people

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have other questions. So many of
the people are doing these sessions are over

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fifty six. You know a lot
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eighties, and they're a point in
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I going to do with the rest
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blah blah. And then they want
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they have time to do things?
You know, what can they do to

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make the world a better place than
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and then and the lists of people. Generally people have a handful of people

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that have died that they want to
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side. That's what we call a
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everything because the seas are to explain
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when people get to that deep state
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access the other side, we ask
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them to a past life than as
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because there usually seems to be one
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Because we generally bring in some unfinished
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working on something, we don't spend
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because it's just a doorway to kind
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people just come to me they want
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and we'll do that and we'll spend
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to get as much information as we
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of check that out and see if
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name things that they could remember if
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you know kind of thing. But
we we usually just have to do

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two or three scenes from a person's
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goved to the death scene. And
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in a bed, sowhere in a
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had one and that was only alive
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like a like a cryb desk in
that lifetime. You know, people wonder

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about crybdsk, what was your purpose
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at times says, well, I
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for very just a few hours or
a few short time because my mom needed

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to have the experience of having a
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she would learn from that. Okay, Also it was a karmic a little

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bit. There was by doing that, there was some kind of karma that

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that soul you got rid of.
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two books that are so great that
Michael Newton wrote. They just sold

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over a million copies. One is
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book. You did that nineteen ninety
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many people wrote him and said,
well, what about this? What about

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this? Whether about this? And
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There there's a lot more specifics,
you know about things that he found

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out, you know about the afterlife
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those are two So those are two
great books. Sure if people that are

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listening to the podcasts, they want
to write, right. So I like

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how you said you talked about the
dreams and how they can insert themselves into

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dreams to kind of make people feel
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me when my grandmother passed away.
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I had was I was she lived
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so my father and his wife were
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there. I was kind of observing. I don't even know if I was

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part of the dream, but I'm
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comes and she sits down between them. They couldn't see her at all,

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but she looked directly at me and
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wow, as she would do.
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point out we are halfway through this
interview and I don't think we've asked you

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a single question. So this is
actually the easiest thing we've ever done.

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We just teed up and let Reagan
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do have to take it. We
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we continue the conversation, we've gone
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From there, it opens up the
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get back, we're going to dive
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stay with us. Hello. My
name is Melissa Oatman and I'm the host

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of Awaken Your Inner Awesomeness. I'm
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single mom of twins. I'm an
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lives. I cover topics and spirituality
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for? Start listening today and now
back to the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Welcome back

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to the Skeptic Metaphysicians. We're talking
to Reaganforson, who is taking us to

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Heaven. Right. I'm so excited
because Heavenly Tour guys. Oh my god,

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why did I not think about that? In fact, I think we

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found our episode title, Reagan Heaven
lead to our guide. Okay, before

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the break, we talked about how
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to get you into the actual life. It makes perfect sense. You go

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to the end time and then where
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instead of coming back or going to
another life, we now follow them.

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Right, I'm assuming that's exactly what
you do. Yeah, you go

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back home, spend some time there
and play on your next journey. In

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the research, we've don't know a
socials choose off to come back and not

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everybody that God creates has incarnations and
force. So souls have been created are

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all the time behind the scenes.
You know they're behind the scenes, but

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it seems like every soul has they're
doing work, and it seems like there's

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a progression when for a lot of
people, once you become God realized in

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a sense where you're I say,
your love quoting is really really great,

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and you pass on in a line
of times, you'll take jobs as being

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on a council. It's kind of
like if you're in the sixth grade and

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there's people in the fifth grade.
There's things you know that they don't know

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yet. Okay, but if you're
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you see needs to need something,
you kind of reach down and kind of

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help them loan. But then you
look above yourself and there's someone in the

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seventh grade it's reaching down to you
to kind of help you go off,

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you know. So there's that kind
of camaraderie of that love. There's no

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we've knocked shown anything of the negative
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have no one's experience like evil demons
or anything like that. It's just if

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you experience it, you just you
feel in a sense like amswer having it.

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It's just like buckets of land just
poured over you, you know,

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and that's what it's just that's the
best win. Canna explain that it's it's

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other world in a sense. Maybe
maybe that should be the episode title.

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I love that. I love that. Yeah, So I'm a question for

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you. We've spoken with a bunch
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experiences, and sometimes the things I
say are similar and sometimes they're different in

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your experience. Is heaven the same
for everyone? Twenty eight of his therapist

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We swapped positions. The very first
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It was a medium from Australia.
You have TV show and everything over

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there, and he wanted to go
through a session. And here's what I've

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learned, trending in by man wholes
like the sticks. So I've got the

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pages as I'm going like this and
I'm taken to a past life and all

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of a sudd he goes Reagan and
what he says, I'm already in the

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fast life, Like okay, so
I gotta go with the so far he

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was he ended up being a little
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or nine years old, was carrying
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said, where do you where the
water? First? She said, they're

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sure the horses. And I forget
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because I'd say half the time,
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sessions with. And by the way, about seventy percent of the sessions are

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done. Are of these seventy thousand
cases are women and about thirty percent the

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man seems like women are so much
there, you know how you know this

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guy's are a little brain dead,
So, you know, hard hard for

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us to get vulnerable. Its hard
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more. Once again, Reagan is
calling me out personally. I'm trying to

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get a little you know, get
a little complex here. Okay, I

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just say me. I'll just say
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past life now and is a little
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I say, well, let's let's
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are. And she goes, I
can't, I can't, I said,

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why, I says, I came
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you cross this road, says,
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is going to run over and kill
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There's this little girl in this other
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to cross that road, where she's
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my first I went, okay.
Luckily, what happened was the higher self

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of my client speaks and says she
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her to cross the room. Okay, it's off for me. Now he's

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tell avised to tell that little girl
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the road and being killed and just
just fallowing order his boss. So all

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of a sudden, I said,
what's happening? And she says, I'm

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bleeding out the wagon his father run
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okay, you know went to three. You're you're out of your body.

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He says, no, I need
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quiet a little bit, and then
the little girl sent us you know through

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him, says okay, I'm finished
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happened? She says, well,
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And I says, are you ready
to go back home? Now? She

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says no, she says, I
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drove the wagon. He said he's
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killed a little girl. I thought, wow, how beautiful that and said,

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just shows you the love that's there
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there was more that session, but
that would be another show. I

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can tell you. There's all these
crazy that doesn't want to really really back

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in for a second because I want
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her question was, in your experience, does everyone experience the same thing when

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they go to heaven or is everyone's
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that's twenty. I think we asked
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when we came back and we all
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sent it to someone else in the
institute there. They put it all together,

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a PowerPoint everything, and I asked
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had and before the council, we'll
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They've asking questions. Then I call
of late. See they sees a Chinese

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for me. My guide was had
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one they've always is the one I
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of course to communicate with me.
I said, this place that you're allowing

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us to bring people to so that
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heaven is this? It is this
heaven like just these because we've fault about

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eight different places so far, which
covers a whole bunch of stuff that people

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do when they're over there, and
the guide different then yeah, So the

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guide, I says, is this, and he goes, You're gonna miss

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me here, but he goes,
he goes, and he just like this.

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You haven't seen everything yet, you
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me I think was this is this
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You know, it's it's opened up
for people to get a glimn And

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the main reasons that they're getting a
glimpse is they want people to realize that

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their life has meeting and purpose,
they have a mission, they have something

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they wanted to learn, something they
want to help teach other people or learn

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themselves, and the fact that they're
never alone. All these seventy thousand people,

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every single one of them is how
to guide or someone that's kind of

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assigned to them that they Sometimes my
clients will recognize them start crying because it's

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someone all of a sudden, they
recognize, Oh, there's and so someone

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that they love from the other side, and they're getting to see them again,

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you know, like like a friend
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It's like, you know, when
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What they're hoping will happen is is
that people will get to work. They

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know what their mission is. Now
most people find out that they're in the

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middle of their mission, that they're
doing it, but they just it's nice

408
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:53.000
to get that confirmation that you're in
life, that you're really doing what you're

409
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:56.160
supposed to be doing. Sometimes they'll
say you need to step it up a

410
00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.200
bit. You know, people are
kind of gotten sidebacked a little bit in

411
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.720
that, and they'll say, I
like it. You might kind of get

412
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.039
a little bit get into it,
get it. Yeah, so that Lively

413
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:11.079
son. Yeah, so I think
you know, it's just like heaven and

414
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:15.680
everything we're learning over there. We're
just we're learning because see, even having

415
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:21.480
this session, we've somehow chosen this
lifetime, you both and I We've chosen

416
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:23.640
to be this is where we need
to concentrate mostly out because this is the

417
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.920
class we're in right now, this
is what we're studying and everything, you

418
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.839
know, but it is nice to
know that we had other classes and we

419
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.640
learned other things and other lifetimes and
things that are helping us to be better

420
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.720
people in this lifetime. So,
in other words, they don't want people

421
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.200
just spending their head in the clouds
all the time, because hey, you've

422
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:41.640
got to get to work, and
that's what this does. I mean,

423
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.880
people have written me a couple of
years even after they had a session and

424
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.119
just said, you know what,
ever, since that day, life should

425
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.960
just been different from me. I've
looked at people different. I've found more

426
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.480
joy and happiness of my life.
I'm not, you know, bitching about

427
00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.559
how hard everything is. And they're
not playing the role anymore because they know

428
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.440
that they signed up to have tough
things happen to them that they had to

429
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.880
work through. I have had some
experiences over there when I have clients in

430
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:12.599
this deep state of trance which they
get into very easily, and they're experiencing

431
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:18.119
the other side that humor is a
huge part of heaven or this is the

432
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:23.359
other side, thank God. I
mean, yeah, if you can't.

433
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.240
If you can't have a sense of
humor about dying, I don't know what

434
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.480
else you what you can have to
can send a humor about well. What

435
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:34.079
was interesting was I had a client
and her life is centered around lightness and

436
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:41.000
love and humor and everything. And
when she's in this process and she meets

437
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.880
her guide and she's describing the guide
to me and everything. And then so

438
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.519
usually what we do is we say, well, so we can communicate properly

439
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:52.000
with this guide, asked the guy
that she'll give us his name so we

440
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.440
can like us humans do just each
other. They're by name or everything.

441
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:03.960
Shit. And the Guide says,
just call me Bond. She started season.

442
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:07.839
She's in trance now, of course, and because she has the supersense

443
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.920
of Hubert, she starts laughing so
hard. I'm sitting next to her.

444
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.279
I took this half an hour to
get her deep in trance and she starts

445
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.559
laughing so hard, belly heaven.
I started laughing so hard that way,

446
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.920
and she said the Guide was doing
the same thing, you know, And

447
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:27.200
it was an introducted later on in
that session, I happened to think be

448
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.359
as a researcher, we always thinking
a new questions, asking everything. But

449
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:34.839
I asked the guy because it seemed
that her theme there was lightness and love,

450
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:38.440
that it was just a beautiful session
we were doing. And I said,

451
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.599
is there comedy clubs in Heaven?
And he goes, sure instantly,

452
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:47.200
she's in this quimp. There's these
other souls of the there there's a guy.

453
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:51.480
She said. It reminded him of
Rodney Dangerfield. This whole thing is

454
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:55.960
about love and light okay. So
all of a sudden, I said,

455
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:57.920
well, you know she's there.
It's just like comedy club on the other

456
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.279
side. And she said, which, it looks like Rodney days Field.

457
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:03.400
I'm not sure if Tim was kind
of like Ken. He's making the same

458
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.559
kind of jokes. So Rodney,
whoever that was, you did a joke

459
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.279
and all of a sudden, wings
pink appeared on him and the audience is

460
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:15.160
laughing like crazy. She's laughing like
crazy. I says, what was the

461
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:17.920
joke? She says, I don't
know, but everybody's lapping so or and

462
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.400
I'm laughing, you know, he
says, I guess, I guess it

463
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:22.880
was like an impact joke, you
know, like yah me and having to

464
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:27.839
kind of understand what that he was
but then herefore it was beautiful. Though

465
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.839
I started asking more questions. I
said, well, ask ask your guide.

466
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:37.079
They're like, what's the importance of
humor down here? He proceeded to

467
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.160
do about a ten minute through her
talking. You know, she would repeat

468
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.519
exactly what he was saying through her. It's all about the describing, like

469
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.599
love is like if you picture a
pie, you know, different sections like

470
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.559
they do on power point and everything, and humor was a huge part of

471
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.559
love. I just remember that that
visual image that she gave me. Every

472
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:02.359
session is similar because everybody through basically
till play, they're the same kind of

473
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:06.680
process that they've lined up for people's
experience over there. But because everybody's at

474
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:11.480
a different rate of unfoldment or whatever, we're all individual, the sessions have

475
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.279
uniqueness to them, which is just
I mean, the hair stands up on

476
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.119
my arms sometimes I'm sitting next to
these people and they're in the afterlife having

477
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.480
these beautiful experiences. So a couple
of questions. Let me first start with

478
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.680
the obvious one. You're hypnotizing,
right, You're bringing them into hypnosis to

479
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:32.519
do past life progression. So first
the question is when you get to a

480
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:36.720
certain level theata waves or I think
it is or whatever whatever level that you

481
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.039
get to. Yeah, it's also
at the level where they say you reach

482
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:44.880
the collective unconscious. So if that's
the case, and that's when you're really

483
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:49.200
accessing your creative thoughts, could this
everything that we are talking about now just

484
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:56.359
be a creation, a fiction,
us kind of creating a story for ourselves.

485
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:00.599
What makes you think that specifically this
is not just something making up or

486
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:05.079
rather we are actually crossing over and
remembering things that happened between lives. Yeah,

487
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.279
that's a that's a really good question. And the research we're doing we're

488
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:15.200
constantly wondering about that. You know. The simplest thing is, well,

489
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:22.680
whether we're making enough or whether it's
real, it has a super beneficial emotional

490
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:28.079
and physiological effect on your body that
makes life better or easier or seems to

491
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.960
be more understanding. So whatever it
is, it's a good thing, you

492
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.400
know, even if we're just making
enough. When I find though, is

493
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.960
the fact that, Okay, of
the different stations they go to, this

494
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:42.279
would be a good time to bring
in there. Almost all of my client's

495
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:46.839
experience going before council getting your questions
answered. The counsels are generally unique to

496
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:51.839
each person. Some people have three
or four elders or people on there.

497
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.359
Sometimes people have twenty or thirty,
but generally it's five or six. You

498
00:32:55.440 --> 00:33:00.799
know, it's like an intimate group, and they can answer, they can

499
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:05.720
get questions about their life answered and
everything. And then from there we asked

500
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:07.720
you they have permission to go to
their soul group. And these are souls

501
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:13.240
that you generally they're saying they're your
favorites, you know, like on the

502
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.960
other side, you like here on
earth, we have friends, good friends

503
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:22.759
that were really close to Soul groups
could range from ten to twenty or thirty

504
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:27.240
or forty. But then there's subgroups
of those. Sometimes there's people that come

505
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.359
from other acting troops in a sense
to come in and to be at our

506
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.920
play. But here's what really makes
it real to me. For instance,

507
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.279
I'll give you an example, as
I had a woman come to me whose

508
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:43.880
husband had hung himself and killed himself, and she was totally beside herself.

509
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:49.640
This man she loved for every hells
of everything. She was loved this man.

510
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:53.119
And she came home and he was
hanging in the garage and she had

511
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:57.240
not been able to work. She'd
been going to therapist, and a therapist

512
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:00.039
that knew the work that I did
didn't seem to be getting anywhere with her.

513
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.519
So he says, look, this
may seem kind of weird, but

514
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:07.000
here's Reagan's number, and maybe he
can help you contact your husband on the

515
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.440
other side and you can find out
why he did this horrible thing and what's

516
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.320
going on. So she came to
me, not believing in this process,

517
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:19.719
just desperate to do something. Okay, she was one of the easiest client.

518
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.440
I mean just she went. She
went got really deep there and went

519
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.599
to a past life. And then
we asked if the guy to grow with

520
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.800
He said, well, you probably
know why we were here, but in

521
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:31.280
case you don't, you know,
I'm gonna just say, my client here,

522
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:36.480
her husband killed herself and she's wondering
if she could see him. They

523
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.320
said yes, but just for a
short time, just for a few minutes.

524
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:43.960
And so all of a sudden,
there he was, and oh my

525
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.920
gosh, my client is her client. She's just crying like crazy. I'm

526
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.679
crying like crazy because I'm feeling all
the emotion because she goes, this is

527
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.320
here. His is hair me know, Oh, oh my gosh. And

528
00:34:55.480 --> 00:35:00.719
so she asked why did you do
that? You apologize? He says,

529
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.320
I'm so so sorry. She says, had nothing to do with you.

530
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:08.199
He says, there was some stuff
I was dealing with from childhood abuse and

531
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:13.079
things that I never told you about, and it just overcame me and I

532
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.280
just he says, when I hung
myself in a way that I could not

533
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.960
do it. But I wish I
could have done it, he said,

534
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:22.480
but it was just too late and
I couldn't. And he said, sweetheart.

535
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.119
She says, look, I'm so
sorry, and I hope when you

536
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:28.599
pass away we're back together again,
if we get to do this over again

537
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:31.079
or something, because I'd love you, we're soul mates or whatever. We're

538
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:35.360
going to just give it another trying. And that you could see that.

539
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.920
That made her feel good. But
then the guide, another guide comes in

540
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:43.639
and said us all the time you
had, And then he's looking at her

541
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.400
and he says. She says,
I'm so afraid where they're taking me.

542
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.880
I said, we'll ask him Ony, you know, because his reasons were

543
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:54.960
they taking him? And he tells
her these guides are taking him to show

544
00:35:55.079 --> 00:36:00.280
him what his life could have been
like if he hadn't killed himself. Another

545
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:06.760
res he'd hung in their lord.
Now that made it real to me because

546
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.760
that's what in the answer I mean, doesn't that seem like the most loving

547
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:12.480
thing that you could be done.
On the other side, that they know

548
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.840
you goofed up that you didn't you
know, you took the easy way out

549
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.280
because of your humanness, and you
blew your mission in a way, you

550
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.639
know, and they just I believe
they wanted to show him so that it

551
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:27.559
would instill in him when you go
down and try it again, you could

552
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.639
do it next time, you know, don't don't take that way out.

553
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:35.559
So let's just, oh gosh,
these there's so much emotion. So that's

554
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:38.599
what makes us so real is the
fact that now after her having the session,

555
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:43.800
she still missed him like crazy.
She still had a grieving process to

556
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.400
go through, but some heaviness lifted
off of her because she realized it wasn't

557
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:51.360
her fault. She got to see
him and realize they're going to be together

558
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.800
again and couldn't appalled she from him. So did she make it up?

559
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:59.719
Did it all enter something? Well, it sure was good. You have

560
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.880
all the answers for us, because
you've talked to so many different people about

561
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.960
this. You have the answers of
what happens in the afterlife. So I

562
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.679
think we can have you back seventeen
times and still not go through all the

563
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:14.519
informations. Yeah, so I got
asked the big question because we're getting close

564
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:19.639
to running on time, and this
is the question that everybody listening is begging

565
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:23.360
me to ask at least. Okay, so I'd like to tell myself in

566
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:30.639
all of these sessions that you've done, what have they said or has anyone

567
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.559
said about God? What is God? Have they met God? Is there

568
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:38.159
God? What is God? Okay? Here's another thing that this makes this

569
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:43.679
seem so real to me when people
on the other side say, what can

570
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.320
I see God? Or where's God? This place? So there's portalis and

571
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:50.840
open people feel the presence, they
call it the presence over there. They

572
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.360
feel the presence much more than we
do here, like they're closer in some

573
00:37:53.519 --> 00:38:00.719
sense to that. But it's almost
like God is still beyond colormprehension even there

574
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:02.800
in heaven. It's not like you
can go up and shake his hand or

575
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.159
something like he's a person or something. You know, like he's this loving

576
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:12.119
presence that people feel that know that
this presence is there, But what is

577
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.679
this presence? You know, we
could we seem to have to think of

578
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:20.000
it in a bodily for it,
but it's it's this colleciousness or there's something

579
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.360
that's not male or female, or
it's just lung, you know, this

580
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:29.119
collesciousness. So in this part of
heaven anyway, now, people that have

581
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.639
been Christian to come to me,
I make sure that I ask over there

582
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.400
is Jesus around and can they have
a conversation with them? Every single Christian

583
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.039
that's come to me and done that
has had a personal audience with Jesus,

584
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:46.840
tears are running down their eyes when
they feel a love of Jesus and the

585
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:52.159
things that he tells them and stuff. It's just like you would think Jesus

586
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.400
would be total love, acceptance and
that. But for people that are you

587
00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:00.199
know, other, you know,
it's like Jesus is part of people's life

588
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.480
and he is part of this big
equation and very very important for a lot

589
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:08.000
of people, but he's not everything, you know. I mean there's like

590
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:12.320
people ask what's the one religion?
You know, they go, God,

591
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:15.639
okay, now here I am tell
me the one religion. I'm going to

592
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:20.199
start it tomorrow, you know,
doing that. It's the Church of Will

593
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.320
here so far we've got. When
they ask about that, they say,

594
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:28.679
if you feel you need a religion, choose one. If one speaks to

595
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.599
you, then it's going to help
you in your mission. It's going to

596
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.039
help you to be more loving because
you're going to feel like you need to

597
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.800
have a religion. Then go ahead. When we ask what's the one practice

598
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.280
you know because people say, Okay, I'm here right now, but I

599
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.360
know I'm going to go back to
my body and I'm going to be like

600
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:49.280
death of duty again, like be
able to have this experience, and they

601
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:53.400
say meditation. They say that.
They'll say, if you want to kind

602
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:59.320
of keep connected, if you want
to have your intuition improve so that you

603
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:01.199
can hear the thoughts or to hear
that, what we're trying to help you

604
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:06.639
with that meditation. And again the
people are meditation. I could do a

605
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.840
whole show on that sometimes I want
to, because meditation is people have this

606
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:15.199
vision that meditation is just one thing
where you're just sitting in the lowest position

607
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.320
for hours at a time and you're
just aching and you can't stand it because

608
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.519
you're being in one place for so
long. There are so many ways to

609
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.239
meditate, you know, there's you
can meditate for two minutes a day.

610
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.480
They just want you to make that
connection where you're like when I was coming

611
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:32.039
back, one of the big things. When I was coming back, I

612
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:36.400
felt I was above the world.
I was. I had this feeling I

613
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:42.559
could see the Earth and it just
looked, Oh my gosh, this beautiful

614
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:47.840
ball in space just slowly moving around, and it just it just wow,

615
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.000
what's the most beautiful place? Because
I started getting a little closer, I

616
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:57.519
started feeling physical pain, and like
I stunned me. He says, what

617
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:02.280
you're feeling, and you're feeling old
then of the earth, all the emotion

618
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:06.039
that people are having, because you
can imagine, like at this moment right

619
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.360
now, if we had to,
we would explode. We had to take

620
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:14.280
a million of the pain going on
people's emotions, right And then he said,

621
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:15.639
he said to me, are you
sure you want to do this work,

622
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:20.880
which is what I'm doing this thing? Here? Here's this guy right

623
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:29.960
there, and I said, fs
yeah, right, the radio stations are

624
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.599
saying thank you right now, right
But that's how deeply I could feel it,

625
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:37.239
like I was making this choice to
do this work. He said,

626
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:38.679
Okay, if you want to do
this work, I'm going to tell you

627
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:43.519
four things to do. And if
you don't do these four things or physical

628
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:45.519
body is going to get sick when
they're going to die. I said,

629
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:49.559
okay, listen, now, well
what do you want to do? Because

630
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.960
we're dealing with energy here, and
good or bad how this is. It's

631
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.559
it's a powerful amount of energy.
And wouldn't be sitting next to these people

632
00:41:55.559 --> 00:42:00.159
at the time and experience that all
the time. My physical vehicle here can

633
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.480
only deal so much. So he
said this, and this would be good

634
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.079
for anybody. He says, when
you wake up in the morning, do

635
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:10.000
so sort of spiritual exercise, which
means disacknowledging. You know, like I

636
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:14.320
heard in my mind. This is
the thing is It's almost like I'm hearing

637
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:15.519
things. I'm hearing a prayer in
my mind. Is he saying is?

638
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:21.079
And what I heard was bless this
day and those that I serve. It

639
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.679
is I keep one foot in heaven
and one foot planet firmly on earth to

640
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:30.400
accomplish my mission of being kind at
any costs. And because kindness, I

641
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:32.920
found out was one of the things
that I came down here to learn and

642
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.719
then the second thing he said,
he said, oh, okay, now

643
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:39.960
they're showing me a picture in my
mind of an hourglass, and I'm seeing

644
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:45.239
clients, and you know how the
hourglasses of course look and I'm seeing clients,

645
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.920
and the sand is piling up and
piling up and piling up, and

646
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.800
nothing's going through to the bottom.
And he says, if the sand gets

647
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:57.880
to the top, your toast bye
bye. So when I saw myself when

648
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.760
he said do spiritual exercises, I
can see myself doing that. I started

649
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:04.239
seeing Sam going down to the bottom. The second thing was he said,

650
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.199
spend more time than nature, because
nature's God's way. And we all know

651
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.559
that somehow, you go for a
walk along the beach, or you're woods

652
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:15.320
somewhere, there's something that heals you. There's something beautiful about that. You

653
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.519
know, we all seem to just
do that naturally. You know, we

654
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.400
know that we go into nature,
we're going to somehow heal. So I

655
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:27.119
saw Sam going down. The third
thing was she said, do as many

656
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.559
random acts of kindness as you can. In my mind, I saw myself

657
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.119
picking up a piece of trash that
wasn't mine, just a little piece of

658
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.880
trash, and someone else's I put
a thing and I could see sand going

659
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:37.519
down to the bottom. And the
fourth thing, he says, talk to

660
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:42.599
other therapists, regular therapists that are
dealing with people's problems, will they ask

661
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.880
them how do they ground themselves?
How do they do that? Have it

662
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:47.239
pretty good? Pretty good? To
doing most of that good? Way?

663
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:52.400
So good? I think maybe a
B minus or maybe a beat that you

664
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:53.920
know, that's that way happen.
We still do a little bit pretty good,

665
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:58.119
you know. Yeah, And those
are great, great tips for anyone

666
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:00.679
to eat, anyone to do.
Yeah. Absolutely, And now you're you're

667
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.199
doing all these tips to keep yourself
alive. And I have one last question

668
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.840
that I have to know, after
all of these sessions and experiences, how

669
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:12.320
do you feel about your own death? Like? Are you okay when it

670
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.880
comes? Are you anxious about it? Great question because look at me.

671
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.440
I'm in my mid seventies now,
and when I was praying to the day,

672
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:24.159
I was thinking, here's where my
thoughts were. It's like, I

673
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:28.760
feel like I'm just getting prying of
things here. So I say, now,

674
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:30.079
don't take me yet, because I'm
just I think I could do some

675
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:34.239
good here now because I'm starting to
get I get the ang of this,

676
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.039
and it's starting to get really fun
in life. You look really healthy to

677
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:38.880
me, Reagan, I don't think
you have anything to worry about it.

678
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:44.880
You're fine. You're fine. I'm
doing pretty good. But I would say

679
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:47.199
even though that human part of me
now we're a test here. Life is

680
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:52.719
good. But from experiencing every only
clients, these hundreds of at least past

681
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.719
lives, and how they feel when
they're out of the body like this is

682
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.760
so great, and me being there
a couple of times and knowing that,

683
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.039
I just know when I leave this
physical body and I'm looking down at it,

684
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.440
you know I'm part of the bigger
picture again, I'm going to be

685
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:09.800
going, wow, cool, I
can't wait to come back, and or

686
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:15.480
do I want to come back again? You know? Right right? But

687
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.440
I because you look at the way
the world's going right now. So if

688
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:21.440
I go to say, in ten
years, I'm wondering what's in thirty or

689
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:23.440
forty or fifty years is are we
going to be a reality anymore? What's

690
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:28.280
going to happen? And we think
about that for a daughter. Actually it's

691
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.719
say something it's very very much in
the now. If we I mean you

692
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.320
guys are cool. I left the
way you do your show and everything like

693
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.519
that too. But happening quantity.
We could do another show because I wanted

694
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:44.440
to get into today, but we
don't have telling of the quantum healing hypnosis,

695
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:49.320
which is what I've incorporated in light
and about physical healings that happened to

696
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.119
some types to people over there,
and especially emotional healings that happened, and

697
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:59.199
also about the other different stations.
There's the some people experience the station where

698
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.440
they can actually go back and they
can see when they chose their current life,

699
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:07.559
Like you're looking down and you can
it's so interesting what you know,

700
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.400
how they explain that where you're seeing
this process of how do you choose another

701
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:15.119
life? There's little the library some
people go to. Usually they'll set them

702
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.239
down in front of a book and
if a guide will get a book and

703
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.840
you're paging it through and it has
everything you've ever been since you were born,

704
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.760
and what if you don't read,
Yeah, there are people out there

705
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:30.519
they hate to read in English.
Well, there are their audiobooks. Can

706
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:36.559
you listen to the books and the
pages that my clients have described it as

707
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:40.079
pages of light and they know they're
getting on some level, they're seeing everything,

708
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:44.960
but their physical self can't really tell
you exactly what that was. But

709
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:46.760
they said, they just say,
I just know I'm seeing everything and on

710
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:52.599
some level I'm getting that. There's
a place of rejuvenation where people go and

711
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.360
sometimes they don't want they don't want
to go on to another part of him

712
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:59.760
because they love it so much.
Or they can feel their their whole inner

713
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.880
health and body being plans and clean. Oh my gosh, there's so many

714
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.719
stories of that. Great. So
there's a lot, there's a lot there

715
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.400
that we've discovered that you can't get
over it. Talk about in an hour,

716
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:14.079
you know, Yeah, we're gonna
we're gonna have to get you back

717
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:16.360
now. So just to summarize really
quickly, because we are way out of

718
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:22.119
time, but you actually bring people
into a hypnotic state that allows them to

719
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:27.559
trans for their consciousness to a time
when they were in between lives and they

720
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:31.880
can actually go there and speak to
and experience Heaven. Speak to anyone in

721
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:37.079
Heaven, speak to Jesus, hang
out with good old Jay himself, hang

722
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:39.639
out with your guardian angels or your
spirits or whatever you believe, and you

723
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:43.840
can stay there as long as you
want, you can get it whatever answers

724
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:45.760
you want, whatever answers you want, and then come back and not have

725
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.880
any kind of adverse reactions or anything
like that. That sounds like heaven on

726
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:58.679
Earth. Yeah, definitely. And
the best thing about it is that anybody

727
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.960
within the sound of our voice right
now, anybody could reach out to you

728
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:07.320
and get that done right now.
This is not an exclusive thing that just

729
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:09.880
kings and queens get an access to. Right any joke schmoll like Will and

730
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:14.119
Karen could actually get this done.
And we've been we tried, We tried

731
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:15.599
hard to get it, to get
it together. We weren't able to connect

732
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.159
it. But maybe for the next
one we'll be able to handle something like

733
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:22.079
that. Yeah, okay, because
I have a bit of a waiting risk,

734
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:23.880
but I but it's not as bad
as it went with Michael Newton.

735
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:28.760
He had four year waiting list when
he was doing h my gosh. Now

736
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:32.280
we have two hundred and fifty of
us. As people go to Newton Institute

737
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:37.840
dot org and they can go they
can look for a therapist in there are

738
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.480
the two hundred and fifty of us. And when I say to people,

739
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:44.119
well, like people when they find
me on there, they go, well,

740
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:45.639
there was these three or four,
but I just felt I'd saw your

741
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.639
face or something and I just knew
here with the one. And it seems

742
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.400
to work out good that way.
So if they can have a session,

743
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.440
I'm happy to help them find someone
in their area. If there's not anybody,

744
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:59.880
we can do it online. I
have one like other therapist house,

745
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:05.400
so how she's here. She's actually
on the board now and she's been just

746
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.000
doing so many of these in India
in the middle of the night or whenever

747
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:12.159
she's up whatever. It's just one
person out of another, none other on

748
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.679
and some therapists now are preferring just
to do it on zoom because it's just

749
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:20.159
so much easier. ID love to
do it in person the most, but

750
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.360
on zoom. You know. I
did one in Philadelphia last week. It

751
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:27.400
was really really great, connected with
a really good person. We had a

752
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:31.000
a plus session. So you know, people go say, quote by your

753
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:34.719
gup, Hey he's reading the right
guy for me? Or do I need

754
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.079
to find somebody else? Yeah,
but what's I called? Visit the afterlife

755
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:40.599
dot com right, Yeah, there's
two ts. Yeah, visit the afterlife

756
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:44.920
dot com. Great videos on there. You can see actually a young lady

757
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:49.239
going through the process on there,
and there's a seat. Michael Newton's on

758
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.960
there talking about before he passed away. We have some things, So there's

759
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.840
some really good information on there.
Sally, contact me on the contact page

760
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:00.519
ors phone number in there, and
I'm happy to help anybody come my way.

761
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.719
Excellent. We're going to add direct
links in our show notes to your

762
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:08.320
website and to the books that you
mentioned. Everything one stop shop and when

763
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:13.000
it comes to reinforced and just go
to skepticmenusition dot com go to his episode

764
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.159
page. You'll see all the stuff
they are directly laid in for you.

765
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.960
So it makes it super easy to
contact you. Regan, thank you so

766
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:21.840
much for coming on the show.
We really appreciate your time and you're sharing

767
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:27.360
this this really cool modality with us
that we literally have just writes a surface

768
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:29.199
on. So, yeah, we're
gonna we're gonna reach out to you.

769
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:30.559
We'll get you back on. We've
got a lot to talk about you guys

770
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:35.119
myself. Yeah, you're good.
Oh, thank you again. Sometime.

771
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:42.280
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774
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775
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:59.920
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776
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777
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779
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786
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787
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