We're seeing other parents actually allow this in their children to perform at like a
bar that's like filled with guys who are putting dollar bills in their I mean
it's so for some reason like that community is like yeah, I mean that's
okay. So it's celebrating because it's gay people. You know, what you
had enough, Khona is to be yourself and that you were brave enough to
get out there and do shit that they couldn't do. This. So excited
today because we are going to try something new, which is we're going to
have a guest and it's a bit of a controversial guest for many people that
are conservative. I think Blair White, who is a trans woman and also
conservative and a Trump supporter, which is like a combination of things that you
don't hear about. A lot of heads are exploiting everywhere exactly what's happening because
you're what one of like five like in the really basically, yeah, I
personally know a lot of trans people who at the very least leaning conservative and
sometimes are very staunch conservatives. But it's not something we really talk about or
other people really talk about. So yeah, why is that? I just
think, you know, there's a lot of sort of attacks that come from
the left when you're a trans person who thinks for themselves akaa disagrees and the
slightest with standard leftist policies and ideals. And then also sometimes trans people feel
a little bit politically homeless in general, just because sometimes on the right they
feel like they don't necessarily fit in either. I'm someone who's never been particularly
concerned with fitting in anywhere. I just want to speak my mind and be
myself and you know all of that, so I don't really have any issues
with it. And personally, I've actually found a lot more warmth and love
and welcoming attitudes on the right. Really, that's I love that. Can
you speak more to that? Because women, as women, we feel like,
you know, because femine will tell us you're not supposed to be conservative
because against your own interest. Yea, conservatives hate you, right and Trump
is taking away all your freedoms which I can't name one. And we've been
asking people for I don't know, for two and a half years now.
We've been asking feminist collar hotline and tell us what rights he's taken away from
you, And we've not had one feminist collar hotline yet to tell us that,
and then you know, you have you have gay people, you have
you know, you have minorities, we have black people. Tell us they
they're not supposed to be They're not supposed to be conservative either. This is
it's like it's rampant. Right, Maybe you need to be the leader of
the Trexit movement. Yeah, the trixit right, I mean, so,
yeah, speak a little bit like why you've been more welcomed by conservatives.
It's really interesting. Well, you brought up the whole voting against your own
interests argument that is super common I definitely heard all the time. And my
question to that is, you know, what are my interests then? Because
being transit the one part of who I am. But what if I also
believe in limited government? What if I also be believe in strong borders.
What if I also have certain ideas about how I want the economy ran,
how many taxes I want to pay? You know, those are all my
interests as well. And so the idea that I have to think and or
vote with only you know, me being trans in mind, to me is
ludicrous because in real life, being trans is an almost completely irrelevant part of
my life I mean, you know, obviously I talk about it a lot
on my channel because that's what the world wants to hear from me, and
I like that I'm sort of spearheading this, you know, movement online of
just thinking for yourself and sort of breaking down stereotypes of what trans people and
LGBT people are supposed to believe. But in my real life, I just
spoke through my days, you know, as Blair. You know, you
know, not trans Blair. So in terms of voting, you think of
I mean, let's really think about like, Okay, so if I'm supposed
to only vote with being trans in mind, there are what five or six
trans policies that are voted on a year, and they're state by state,
probably not even in my state. You know, I don't understand the voting
in my own interests, I would much rather vote for, you know,
you know, a strong America, which I believe comes from voting Republican than
voting based on this innocuous idea of me being trans and voting. Does that
make me sense? Is? Yeah, it makes total sense because we've said
that even about you know, most people in the LGBT community, Because I
would imagine it doesn't define who you are as a person, right you Being
trans isn't define you as a person. And that is so refreshing because I
think the reason that conservatives get all, you know, bent out of shape
by the LGBT community in some ways is the activists, not the people like
you or just like, I'm just trying to be you know what I mean,
I just leave me alone because I just want to be and I'm not
trying to bother anybody. I just want to live my life. But then
there's all of these activists and then you know, especially like in the case
of the latest predator that you've exposed really well, Jessica, you neive who
is literally shutting businesses down simply because they won't accommodate that Jessica's weird fetishes.
Essentially, that's what's going on. Yeah, absolutely, And you know,
I am equally, if not more, actually probably more frustrated with the crazy
activists and even conservatives just because you know, or the typical conservative just because
you know, those people supposedly speak for me, and apparently unfortunately they tend
to get even more spotlight in the media, and it becomes this misconception that
LGBT people are almost an invention of these radical leftists, right, It almost
becomes the misconception that transgender is synonymous with radical leftism. But the reality is
trans people have been around for a very long time, and in my real
life, if I have to be honest, ass anecdotal, most trans people
I meet at the very least actually have them rightly used. They actually tend
to Yeah, they actually tend to have more traditional views on gender because they
actually recognize gender as the binary. It is right, you know, we
are transitioning and that means, you know, moving from one to the other.
It doesn't mean believing in a million genders or that or that gender isn't
real, but somehow is real. You know. It's so we actually don't
fall in mind with a lot of those activists. And you need Yeah,
and to the Jessica you need thing. Yeah, that story is absolutely insane.
I mean I've been following it and following you and your your interview with
Jessica, and it has just been so insane. And it's unfortunate too,
because the Canadian laws seem to be so crazy with respect to what they're allowing
Jessica to get away, just enabling that person enabling, the crazy enabling.
There's a lot of that going on. So can you I'm curious. I'm
curious about how you like how your journey started, Like how when, when,
when did you decide that this was going to be this that you were
going to go ahead and transition from because male to female? Yeah, because
you were not always Blair, right, I was not always a Blair.
So my earliest memories in life are that gender dysphoria. I remember being four
or five years old in preschool, in kindergarten and feeling this sort of just
strange misalignment with the way that I wanted to be viewed by my peers in
school and my family and my teachers, and the way I was being viewed
in school by my peers, family and teachers. So it was very prevalent
and very young, and that's that's the case with a lot of people,
and that feeling sort of intensify as I got older, and I never had
the language to really describe what that feeling was until I was probably about a
teenager, and from there the feeling got worse and worse and worse, until
I finally, you know, just did some research and I was like,
what are these feelings. I came across the term gender dysphoria, and it
actually was very validating to realize I actually did have a condition that I could
act upon it, and I could try to mitigate the harmful effects because it
was leading to depression and just a whole flew of just feelings that were sort
of hindering my ability to be a productive citizen. Basically, I want to
stop you really quick right there, because it's so interesting to me that you
call it a condition, like gender dysphoria being a condition, because you hear
from so many the activists that are like, no, it's just a spectrum.
Gender is fluid, and you can just feel like any other. You
can feel like a male one day and a female the next day, and
then something in between the next day. But you recognize it as an actual
disorder absolutely, and truthfully, you know, whether I even recognize it or
not as irrelevant because it has been in the DSM five for the longest time.
It was actually recently, very recently, as of like last year,
removed on the part of activists removing it, which was very upsetting for me
because if you remove the medical component of what being trans is for me,
that actually kind of invalidates it, you know, like, what is the
argument for society at large to have any amount of empathy if we can't explain,
yes, this is something that we were born with and something that we
are dealing with on our own and you know, so, so I didn't
like that it was removed and it was a complete pushed by the activist because
as usual, they only operate in the opposite of what is the best interest
for the people they, you know, supposedly fight for. And yeah,
speaking and speaking to that empathy, did you have people around you who rallied
and like and helped you through that? Like, did you have a really
supportive family? Just curious. Yeah, for the most part, my family
has been supportive. There are a few people I haven't been, but that's
okay because in life sometimes you find your own tribe and make your own family
later on, you know. But I don't want to think to picture my
whole family is like that. It's the majority are amazing. Yeah, but
yeah, it's interesting, like it's such a cliche among LGBT people who are
right wing, Republican, conservative, et cetera. But it was definitely hard
to come out as a Republican when it was being trans I live in California.
That is so we hear that from so many few community Yeah, it's
true. It's true. When I like, so you came out as trans
what like around twenty you were twenty years old? Yeah, it was right.
It was nineteen when I knew it and twenty when I came out with
it, And it was actually just like such crazy timing. I actually started
YouTube like right when I started transitioning, So those first few videos, I
was only like a couple months on hormones and has been so amazing and actually
opened up so many doors for me just financially and career wise that I saved
up, you know, enough money to actually you know, complete my transition
just from YouTube money in the first year of doing YouTube, so that way,
and you're like, oh crap, I gotta then you're like, oh
crap, I got to tell people that I'm Republican. Now that's gonna be
way harder, so much harder. Yeah. That's the interesting part is that
when I came out as trends, it was you know, for the most
part, nothing but rallying and support. And then when I came out as
a Republican, which is such a funny term to you come out right,
but I love it, like pretty much all of my friends, like God,
and we feel for you though, because we've been there. Yeah,
we true I get it. I mean because just as women. I mean
I when we started our site, what ten and a half years ago,
I lost friends, you know, just that were liberal, good friends that
I love dearly, and they were like, yeah, I can't be your
friend anymore because you're doing that stupid site, you know. So, I
mean, I get it. It may not be as is large amount of
friends that you had and you lost, you know, by what you did,
but I totally get it. It's it's hard. It's hard. Isn't
that amazing? That was the harder of the coming out you have. That's
just nuts, you really, yeah, you really get to know who your
friends are when just finally speaking up about how you really feel about politics,
you know, right and especially in this day and age. Holy crap.
Yeah. The other component, the other component, so that maybe he couldn't
really as well. It was almost also jealousy. It was it was it
was the political disagreement for sure, but it was also jealousy that I was
sort of gathering a platform and building myself up and doing something that they thought
was cool, and they probably thought your friends probably thought the same about your
website, you know. Yeah, I think I think it's that and also
that you were, you know what, you had enough cohona is to be
yourself, and that you were brave enough to get out there and do shit
that they couldn't do, you know what I mean, that's the way I
look at it too. I mean that's I honestly like we did something that
probably other people thought, you know, that's kind of cool. I'm not
going to admit that it's cool because they're brave enough to get out there and
do it. Because it takes some guts to do what you did, Yeah,
And it takes some guts to do what we did, frankly, because
we get death threats a lot. I can't even imagine what you got,
right, and you probably get a lot of You probably get a lot of
flag too, and so it's doesn't help when just Jessica you Neve is doxing
you, right, It's exactly, I mean, you probably you get a
lot of tell you Yeah. Every video I've done in the past month and
a half I've either gotten this season desist letter or a complaint to YouTube for
my channel, like crazy, because I've been focusing really heavily. You know,
I've been really inspiring recently with sort of outing predators and going after predators.
So I've done a few different videos on that's like you need someone else
names to funk me, and then just talking about predation in general. And
I've gotten a lot of letters from people through some justice letters. They never
amount to anything, you know, because I am speaking about public figures,
so it's just them trying to bully mean to not talking. But oh yeah,
I've been edu kidding a lot on YouTube recently. Oh my god.
And you know, people should be applauding you for this. This is like
a big deal because you know, we're moms, we've got kids in school,
and the thought, I think conservatives should find it very interesting that it's
a trans woman, someone from the LGBT community who's going after the very people
that they worried all trans people were like yeah, right, because you guys,
I mean, trans people have gotten such a bad rap in many ways
because they're constantly associated with the activist weirdos like Jessica. You need and so
when that is the fear of someone whose kid is going to school and who's
like, you know, dealing with there's there's bathroom issues and locker room issues
and all that stuff that conservative parents, and I guess it conservative parents get
very worried about, and rightly so, because there are predators like Jessica and
Neve and who's exposing it a trans woman? Yeah, and that listen,
And that brings me to another question. How do you feel about that?
How do you feel about education and you know, trans education being taught in
public schools, how do you feel about that? I have always had this
sort of position that there really is no reason for anyone, like young kids
to be learning about sort of the intricacies of transition and what it is to
be this gender and this sexuality and all of that. I have always thought,
like, you know what, just teach your kids to be kind to
everyone and people who are different than them, and things will work out in
the end. People will find out about these issues later in life. And
it's not I think of any urgency to worry kids about these issues, especially
because there have been a lot of studies recently that shown that the sort of
popularity among young people to be trans or non binary or during nonconforming has guy
rocketed. It's like quadrruples. You know, there's a lot of young kids
right now thinking that they are gender lists, or they are a gender,
or they are you know, multiple genders, and unfortunately it's leading to a
lot of conflict in schools of how to treat these cases. A lot of
these kids wake up one day and there's one thing the next day or something
else, and it's causing complaints to school. And I don't think you know,
there's a difference between I think this is another misconception among conservatives, and
I'm speaking as a conservative to the trans issue, is that transgender there's a
misconception that transgender is an ideology, right. I think there's absolutely a gender
ideology that's sort of taking over right now the country, and it's very toxic
and it doesn't make a lot of sense, and it's actually something that genuine,
real trans people also take issue with. And part of that gender ideology
is forcing it upon kids. You know, I did. It's a video
recently where I talked about these cases. This is for some reason, something
is more popular in the UK. But for some reason there's just like recent
popularity and transparents who coincidentally have trans kids. Yeah, I've seen some of
those studies too. Yeah, and what in the world. Yeah, it's
it's whack. That's just it completely in it is in doctor nation, it
is absolutely Yeah. And then I and I hear you because I think that
when you start teaching this stuff early, it's almost like and when people are
starting to see kids are starting to see this more and more, like younger
kids, I think it becomes a trendy thing. Yeah, you know,
they start going, oh, this is like totally cool, I'm going to
be trans. Well that's it's not it's not a trend. It's like it
shouldn't be a trend. You know. It's like I understand exactly. I
understand what you're saying here. And that's and it's got to be frustrating for
you then to to deal with and share a community, if you will,
with some of the activists like the Riley Dennis's and some of the other just
really out there people who are just they've convinced themselves that there are many genders,
are no gender at all, and they expect and demand that everyone accommodate.
And you know, use like made up pronouns and all this stuff to
make them feel special somehow, and it's got to be so frustrating that you're
lumped in with that community. Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, these
activists that speak on the behalf of the trans community, the real trans community,
it really is almost predatory. Not in the same way of Jessica you
need. I'm not saying like sexual predation. I'm talking about like they're preying
on a community that is extremely small, Okay, because then it might be
hard to believe because we hear about the issues so much. But yeah,
real genuine trans people are so rare, right, They're like zero point and
zero one percent of the population. It's a rare thing. And these activists
are speaking for people that, for the most part, you know, historically,
traditionally and even now, trans people the goal in the beginning of what
trans people were was not to be out there and crazy and letting everyone know
and being activist and fighting. It was actually like, Okay, I have
this condition, I've always had it. I'm going to deal with it in
private, and I'm going to actually attempt to assimilate into societies, into society
and move on from this issue right, and so these people don't want to
have platforms for the most part and be active in speaking and fighting against people.
So they're being spoken for by people who are much louder than them,
much more common than them. These people are not really trans, and so
it's almost like, you know, I don't blame anyone for having trepidation or
issues or confusion about trans people and who and what trans people are, because
they're not hearing voices of trans people. They're hearing voices of people speaking over
us and you know, and speaking on behalf of radical leftism, honking Kystem
and so this is lady, It is very interesting, and I think you're
absolutely right. I think that's a lot of people on our side of the
aisle just don't understand, you know. Yeah, that's true. I was
gonna say that's my I you know, even I sometimes wonder what my last
would be like if I hadn't you know, sort of works towards this,
like public career and like YouTube and all that, because sometimes it is stressful.
But when I go and do these events, you know, I do.
I've been doing public speaking a lot this year, and so I've been
traveling the country a lot of done New York, Texas, Virginia, I've
done La Chicago, and you know, I go to these obviously Republican and
conservative events And did you guys know who Brandon Strock is? Oh? Oh
yeah, yeah, that friend of ours Struck is awesome. Yeah. So
Brandon Strock runs the Walkaway campaign, and I've been doing speaking events with him.
He has LGBT town hall events, and so you know, a lot
of people that are my fans come to them, and a lot of people
that the are his fans come and some of his fans don't know who I
am. So we're on stage speaking and they're there just to see him,
right, And I start talking and then eventually throughout the conversation and the panel,
they'll it'll come to them that I'm trans on stage and there are a
lot of these people, you know, they are the older sort of conservative
and their shocks and they come up and speak to me afterwards and they're like,
you know, I came here to see Brandon, but I'm seeing new
and you completely changed my mind. And I feel bad for thinking that that
trans people are this invention of like the radical left, and I just I
understand a lot better now. And so that has been so validating for me
that I can, you know, just change a couple of people into realizing
that that they're not wrong for being scared about this, but they're being scared
about the wrong thing, and that we should be finding these radical leftists,
communists, really activists, not necessarily transsexual people. That makes sense, right,
No, it absolutely makes sense. Yeah, because it just goes back
to the whole notion if you just want to live your life. Yeah,
you know, you just want to live your life, and you don't want
to be out there going look at me. I got to be special and
you know, do this or do that or yeah, I'm going to make
up seventeen new words that you need to call me by. Yeah, exactly.
And that's that's a message. That's a message that conservatives very much relate
to. By the way, it's self preservation, you know, taking control
of your own life and your own destiny, taking care of yourself, wanting
to fundamentally be left alone. Exactly. That's exactly that's an ideal that conservatives
relate to. So that's why I said, you know, in many ways,
a lot of trans people I meet, those genuine trans people, actually
do you have very complete conservative beliefs. Yeah, yeah, that is fundamentally
conservable. And it's the people that are the activists that are the Jessica your
neives and the people who are on the spectrum, or so they claim to
be, that are on this weird, made up spectrum. Those are the
people that don't want to just live and let live, right, they are
demand that they be not accepted, but loved and cherished somehow, just because
they've made this claim that they're all over the place, all over the map.
Gender. Well, I think that's why it's it has become so trendy,
is because our society has made it sort of a special like a little
badge of honor. Right, It's like, it's because i'm transgender now and
people think it's cool and it's trendy and it's and people love you for that.
Right, It's like you get special. It's like having a special ribbon,
you know. And so that's why kids are like, ooh, I'll
be treated different if I say then i'm trans, I'll be treated different and
it's cool, it's different, and it's and I'm a rebel now, you
know, because you know, teenagers think of what we used to do when
we were teenagers, you know, we used to do stupid crap and and
try to rebel against our parents. Well, now teenagers can say, well,
I'm going to rebel by saying that I'm trans. And I mean,
what are they doing right? It's like it's they're not really trans. I
don't think they're just saying that they're trans because it's like the trendy cool thing
to say now because they are differently. Yeah, it's the new like goth
or emo. It's the new tide fun thing. And quick story. I
was at my doctor's office yesterday and this is a doctor's office that deals with
a lot of trans people in and out, and I was just getting a
check up and standard care, and I was talking to the receptionist and she's
actually a trans woman who transitioned like years ago. She's a little older,
she transitioned in the eighties. And she was talking to me and she was
like, she was like, Claire, I cannot believe. I can't even
tell you how much of a refreshment it is to even have you in here
and talk to you. Because in La where I live, basically any trans
surgery and care right now is free. Basically if you don't, if you
don't have a job, you can get any surgery, any procedure, anything
for free on the doc payers time in La. Yeah, in the world,
Oh my gosh, which I sity and somebody would cancer. I'm sorry,
you got to step aside because we've got to deal with this transit or
sorry, cancer people, people with diabetes and everything by it like yeah,
oh wow, absolutely, it's so backwards, it's so corroupsed. I personally
cannot relate to that because I saved up and worked so hard for my surgeries.
But this reception is the transploman, which again transitions in the eighties.
And you would never know she ever ever other but she was talking to me
and she was saying, I can't even believe. I couldn't even tell you
the stories of people who come in here who have this just big sticks that
they're walking with from the government here in LA to just beat us over the
head. They are so rude they come in. You know, they have
a host of other issues that go so far beyond being trans These people get
letters from therapists who are scared to say no to them to have them come
in and get these surgeries on the taxpa year's dime and they come here and
they treat us horribly and none of these people are trans. None of them
is like unbelievable. It's like She's like, we have about fifty patients a
week and about ten of them probably are trans and the rest of them are
people with the host of other mental issues that go into these therapists office demand
letters to enable them to get surgery right, and these therapists don't want to
say no because then they get in trouble. They come in with these they
come in with these letters to this doctor's office that I was out yesterday,
and if the doctor's office says no, then they get in trouble. And
so it is this this big stake, like she said, by the government
that these people can walk around beating people with and it's it's crazy. It's
crazy. Yeah, Wow, it's just absolutely crazy. I'm curious about your
take on some of these drag kids, which I know is a very different
thing outly than trans. But I'm curious because you know, we're parents,
and we're seeing other parents actually allow this in their children right to perform at
like a bar that's like filled with guys who are putting dollar bills in their
I mean it's so gross. Some reason like that community is like yeah,
I mean that's okay. So it's celebrating because it's gay people would be so
fine. I'm just curious your take on that, because it's so it's like
shocking to me to see how dramatically our culture is shifting just because of a
very tiny minority of super vocal squeaky wheels. Yeah. Yeah, So the
drag kids situation, I did a video about that about a year ago.
It's messed up, you know. I I've always took an issue with like
the super extreme like toddlers and tierras tip thing like over sexualizing like kids with
for performance or whatever, and the drag kids really, for me is no
different. You know. I've seen the video of the one like you said,
like this kid like I think he was like ten, eleven, twelve
years old performing in the club getting dollar bills done on him, scantily clad,
And I'm just thinking, if this was anything other than, you know,
a gay thing, it would be so heavily criticized. But because they've
attached the word gay to it, it becomes the thing that you cannot criticize.
And that's why. That's another reason why I understand why people have the
trepidations, because they feel like this is a group they can't even speak against.
And that's why, you know, I'll speak against them. I'm trans.
I can talk about this case, you know, But the job,
the job kids situation is uncomfortable for me for sure. Yeah, because like
you're right, because if we do say anything, then we're called homophobes,
right, not that we've not been called that forever, just because simply because
we're conservative, we're called that and racist like every single day. And trans,
Yeah, we've been called transphobic and all sorts of stuff. I mean,
we just we're kind of it's like it's Tuesday again, right, this
is what happened to you know, this is what happens. Yeah, Blair
and ken Toobic is so interesting because you guys have always been so supportive of
me in my channel and even having me here, and so I love your
website. I think you guys are great. Well, we I've just been
so excited to talk to you. We could talk for like three more hours,
I'm sure, because there's so many things too, so many different angles
to your story and to the whole trans community. I mean, there's so
many different things that we could cover, but unfortunately our time is limited and
we want to make sure that we tell people how they can find you.
So tell people all the ways awesome. I'm on YouTube, Twitter, Instagram,
Facebook to search up Blair White and I'm sure you'll find me. Definitely.
My YouTube takes priority, though, so subscribe and as there we get
it. Your videos are fabulous. We do actually share a number of them
on our website, will continue to do that because you've always got such compelling
stories to tell. And what's great too, what I appreciate about you is
that you are not shy about telling very personal things, things that I know
are sensitive issues for the trans community that are not necessarily topics that you want
to talk about that or anybody's business, and you put it all out there,
and so I encourage people to visit your channel if they really want to
understand what your journey has been like. It's it's pretty it's been amazing to
watch and we just wish you all the best and thank you so much for
me. It's just it's been lovely to talk to you. Thank you for
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