1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,639 Hello ladies, gentlemen, and welcome to This is an episode. This is 2 00:00:04,759 --> 00:00:07,919 just like a I don't know, a little update highlight. I'm trust now 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:17,399 Clown Prince Fantastics, I'm joined by I'm Fantastic News, the Fantastic. There 4 00:00:17,559 --> 00:00:22,160 you go. Yeah, we're doing a quick one because we're not gonna have 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,519 any newscast next week or lots of recording with some big news. Let's talk 6 00:00:25,559 --> 00:00:28,839 about this quickly. Give our little opinion. So everything you know is down 7 00:00:28,879 --> 00:00:30,879 below, not going to give the full plugs. We just did a Batam 8 00:00:30,879 --> 00:00:34,359 Web make sure check that out. But we got our officials. Some of 9 00:00:34,359 --> 00:00:38,039 this had been rumored, but we got our official Matt No, our official 10 00:00:38,119 --> 00:00:45,359 Fantastic forecast reed Richards is going to be played by Pedro Pascal Vanessa Kirby is 11 00:00:45,359 --> 00:00:48,679 gonna be playing Sue Richards. No, Sue Storm, not Sue Richards. 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Johnny Storm will we played by Joseph Quinn again. Eleven thirteen after man Web 13 00:00:53,359 --> 00:00:58,439 review and then Evan Moss background is going and playing the thing Ben Grimm. 14 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,320 We also learned which I will have a follow up question for something else that 15 00:01:02,479 --> 00:01:04,959 is going to be coming out July twenty fifth, So it's moved back. 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,319 Thunderbolts, which was in December of next year, is now in that May 17 00:01:10,439 --> 00:01:12,959 slot. So, Dylan, what do you think about some of these these 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,040 come ups and were you surprised this oything too? Were you surprised this is 19 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,159 how it happened, because we've heard rumors and lobbies, but a lot of 20 00:01:19,159 --> 00:01:21,200 people thought, oh, the wait till Comic Con, the wait till t 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,480 twenty three, just drop some poster, which I guess I can also throw 22 00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:27,079 in the question to you that it confirms it's in the sixties. We don't 23 00:01:27,159 --> 00:01:32,280 know, because another part that rumor was it was the sixties sixties. Yeah, 24 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:34,799 yeah, somewhere in the sixties. We don't know if it's MCU sixties 25 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:41,079 or alternate universe sixties. There's been like if the rumors on both of saying 26 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,359 it's our timeline and not our timeline. So what do you think about all 27 00:01:44,439 --> 00:01:47,560 that? And just even the announcement of like they just posted like a poster 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,439 on Valentine's Morning, like, hey, here they are. That was surprising 29 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,840 to me and I'm wondering why that is. I don't really have a theory 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,319 because we're not anything MCU coming out soon. Until like Deadpool, which near 31 00:02:00,439 --> 00:02:02,359 com con time, so I don't I don't really have a theory for that. 32 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,319 But so Pedro Pascal was already confirmed, right like that wasn't just like 33 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:09,759 high rumors. That was like nothing, that was a to your stuff. 34 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:15,080 No one's been confirmed till today. This was the official confirming it was officially 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,199 confirmed. Yeah. I know all these names have floated around, and I 36 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,800 swear we even talked about this these four being the cast at some point. 37 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,759 I mean, all of our other rumors have always been like, oh, 38 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:28,000 there's here the two or three people running. But I think we've had all 39 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,560 these names, so I've thought on them before, and I think it's I 40 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,800 think it's really great. I think if you probably go back to our cast 41 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,599 when we first talked about Pedro, I don't remember exactly what I said, 42 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,319 but I probably would have said something long, long lines of I wouldn't have 43 00:02:43,319 --> 00:02:46,360 thought of him for it, and I don't necessarily see it immediately, but 44 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:50,919 he's just so good that I think it's a great get for Marvel, and 45 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,280 I think he can do it, and I'm excited to see him do something 46 00:02:53,319 --> 00:02:57,520 different than what I've seen him do before too, So that's great, but 47 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,759 that's and then honestly for the next three, like I don't don't really have 48 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:05,199 a lot of personal experience with them as actors, Like I've seen all of 49 00:03:05,199 --> 00:03:08,759 them in like maybe one or two things, like in minor roles. But 50 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,759 from everything, I feel like we've been talking about Vanessa Kirby for years on 51 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,240 the podcast and the drafts and all of the sand cast, like she's always 52 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,919 coming up, so I feel like she feels like an old friend. Yeah, 53 00:03:19,039 --> 00:03:22,280 that one of the family, and then the other two. I just 54 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,439 I hear such great things from everyone about them, So I'm I think it's 55 00:03:25,479 --> 00:03:30,520 a pretty I think it's a pretty solid list, and I'm I'm very excited 56 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,639 for it. I also, yeah, I really like the poster. I 57 00:03:32,719 --> 00:03:37,360 like the tone that we got for not necessarily that's what the movie is gonna 58 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,360 look like or anything, but not necessarily just the time confirmation. I don't 59 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,280 know if I care so much about that, but just the general vibe of 60 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:47,719 it, I'm into it. So yeah, I'm pretty pretty pleased with this 61 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,479 news, I would say, And do you think Thunderbolts being in May is 62 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,639 a better December slot or better than de summer because I think we've talked about 63 00:03:54,639 --> 00:03:58,759 that a few times where we're all kind of like, yeah, like Christmas 64 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,439 movie that like Family Vibes is Thunderbolts, that movie where it's a bunch of 65 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:04,960 bad guys together as a team. I don't know if that has the same 66 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,719 effect like a Wonka or something like. I feel like Christmas is more that 67 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:15,199 Avatar fun adventure where I'm not saying Vunderbolts wasn't a fun adventure, but I 68 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,040 just feel like that's a harder sell during Christmas. I feel like May is 69 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,040 a better time for it. I think I kind of forgot about the Christmas 70 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:25,120 things. I feel like for years it was in that summer slot, and 71 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,600 that's where I in my mind it was still there. So I kind of 72 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,360 forgot about that until Yeah, it came up that this was gonna be in 73 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:32,959 the July saw. So this is sorry May of twenty five. Yeah, 74 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,959 so right now, if it all goes to planned, it's starting film right 75 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,959 now. As if it goes to plan, that's the villain finally, right. 76 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,279 So that was all Yes, they did east they needed. Yeah, 77 00:04:43,319 --> 00:04:46,920 so it's gonna go Cat four in February. Thunderbolts of May this and July, 78 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,360 supposedly Blade in November, so they're sick with the four. But I 79 00:04:51,399 --> 00:04:55,800 don't think Blade's gonna make it though. I think Blade it's just like we 80 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,639 have this placeholder. Put Blade off the lady. Yeah, I think play 81 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:04,600 it's gonna be a February I I guess it feels like Whiplush since we're only 82 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:09,360 getting one MCU movie this year, and it's even like kind of in a 83 00:05:09,399 --> 00:05:12,759 weird slot because it's the Deadpool thing. But I guess that makes sense if 84 00:05:12,759 --> 00:05:15,959 your timing's just weren't quite right this year, so you're probably gonna have more 85 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:18,439 things in the next year. So obviously there's always those concerns of like them 86 00:05:18,439 --> 00:05:23,759 overdoing it with how many things there are and rushing things and CGI and all 87 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:27,399 these concerns. But man, if that is correct and we get those four, 88 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:30,600 holy shit, that's gonna be a hype year for me personally. I'm 89 00:05:30,959 --> 00:05:33,920 very interested in all of those projects, So that's that's gonna be pretty sweet. 90 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:36,680 Who even needs Disney plush shows at that point? Like, I'll just 91 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:42,600 give those four movies like let's go so no that Thunderbolts, I'm I mean 92 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,480 it moved up. I guess, so I'm happy. Well was it spially 93 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,720 this December? Are you saying no? Next year? Next year? So 94 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,680 yeah, so I'm happy about that. Moved a lot. Really when you 95 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,240 think about that's a big that's a big jump. But they are filming now, 96 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,879 so it's like a year of production if it all goes well. Right, 97 00:05:57,959 --> 00:06:01,600 So what about you, Klin, happy peas, I will met you. 98 00:06:01,639 --> 00:06:04,120 Like Dale mentioned, you did get you and me both got a point 99 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,680 superow draft. You got a point for Joseph Swin and a point for Vanessa 100 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,199 Kirby after keeping it for like three four years paid off. So it's satisfying 101 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,600 when you when you get one, you know, and uh, you know 102 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:18,000 we both got one in the same same instance here, so that's it's fun. 103 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,360 We can celebrate together. I'm just really pumped with this cast. Like 104 00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:28,720 I I think all four of these characters are great. I have some experience 105 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,439 with all of them, and I I just like seeing them on the poster. 106 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,319 It just really fits. Even even what's his name, Evan Eben Moss, 107 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,000 Like just him is the thing. You know, it's clamber in time, 108 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:45,079 Like I'm down this guy, this guy could clomber things. So I 109 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:48,319 also really like the overall aesthetic of just like the poster that they that they 110 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,759 showed, and just the fact that it is just like a just like a 111 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,759 somewhat of a shadow drop, like just on Valenti's Day, Like just just 112 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,759 get it out there. Do you have any merit to the theory? Still? 113 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:01,279 Do you anything? I think they're trying to get ahead of leaks. 114 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,639 I feel like because they are, well they're not there now. We already 115 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,120 knew a lot of these, right, what do you mean like we already 116 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,920 talked like you don't say, we talked about a lot of these, right, 117 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:12,519 So it's like if they're trying to get had leaks, it's like, 118 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,079 well, we know, like they they're just like you know, I don't 119 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,120 know. I feel like the way that they had it just ready to go 120 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,319 in the barrel, like if they waited longer, they just I don't know, 121 00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:26,759 like the overall look of it maybe would have been released. I don't 122 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,040 know. Do you give any creatives they're trying to there's a theory I mean 123 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,360 prior to Comic Con though, maybe is that the thing? No, they're 124 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:38,839 filming either during or after Comic Con. It's supposed to be like July August, 125 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:41,319 so they might not be filming to after Comic Con because they all got 126 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,720 busy schedules. So maybe they're just really they're really pumped and really confident, 127 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:48,720 and maybe it's like MCU hasn't been in the in the best spots is going 128 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:53,519 to boost filming, then it's gonna get out there. So maybe yeah, 129 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:56,439 I mean, why February fourteenth, I don't know. That doesn't really make 130 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,920 sense. But the tinfoil hat theory have seen from some people is to even 131 00:08:00,959 --> 00:08:03,680 though it's not their movie, it's because Madam What was getting so much bad 132 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,959 press that they just wanted to get some good Marble stuff out there, because 133 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:11,879 people associate the two. I don't fully believe that. I think if it 134 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,279 was like there, they had a movie come out and it bombed, then 135 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:18,199 I'd say like, Okay, this is why they're gonna But I can't also 136 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,519 give you an answer to why this happened, because then I'm with other people 137 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:24,639 where I thought this was. People said, oh, for a joke, 138 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,360 they should revealed during the Dead Book trim, Like god, they won't do 139 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:28,560 that. Now, I'm kind of like they should have just done that. 140 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:31,159 They like they paid off for all that money. I think they would have 141 00:08:31,159 --> 00:08:35,360 been something cool to reveal to like the super Bowl that's watched by one hundred 142 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,799 and thirty four million, of like, hey, fantastic for it's coming, 143 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,240 here's your cast. You know. It is still the idea though, of 144 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:43,919 like that trailer I saw is like the most viewed trailer of all time by 145 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,480 some metrics. Yeah, it's kind of a cheat. Yeah, well either 146 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:50,320 way, it's still huge. And maybe that's just what it is. Like 147 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:54,639 Marvel's in the news right now, like let's throw this capitalize. There's an 148 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,840 idea that it gets buried, but more so that like people are invested right 149 00:08:56,879 --> 00:08:58,840 now, so why not hit him with the one two punch? And maybe 150 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,759 that's what it is. MC is back, you know that sort of. 151 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,919 Yeah, things just like come on the horizon, things to get excited for. 152 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:09,919 Yeah, no, I'm happy with all these. Vanessa Kirby was my 153 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,399 Sue's storm pick from day one, so it's but I hope as we just 154 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,799 talked about Madame Webb review, you know, Kirkland Day one for Julie Carton 155 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,720 with Sidney Swooney that didn't work out well. My Day one for Moon Night 156 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:22,120 was Oscar Isaac and to me, that didn't work out the greatest. So 157 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,080 maybe this is a fucking curse and we got to stop fan casting the people 158 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,480 we want because it just doesn't work out right. Yeah, yeah, I 159 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,440 don't. I've been curtisied to keeping my death. I keep talking and it 160 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:39,879 doesn't line up my lips. So hopefully thanks, Yeah, there's something wrong 161 00:09:39,919 --> 00:09:43,480 with your editing. Yeah, So hopefully I think she'll do great, especially 162 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,240 the rumor of her being the main character. That's great. Uh, the 163 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,600 thing to me doesn't matter really to me, it's like I'm with Clay on 164 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:54,240 this one, where it doesn't matter who you cast, it's just the thing. 165 00:09:54,000 --> 00:10:00,120 Granted, we did nominate Bradley Cooper's Rocket for Best MCU Actors, so 166 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:03,000 it can matter, right, you can still give a good performance with just 167 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,600 your voice. So I hope that copy is here. But most of the 168 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,799 time, spectrum right like Rocket to like Groot is prett Yes, spectrum of 169 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,559 like how meaningful that voice performance actually is? And that's to me, what 170 00:10:13,639 --> 00:10:15,679 is it for this guy? Is it like, oh there's something good here, 171 00:10:15,799 --> 00:10:18,159 or is it like that's a good check for doing a voice? I 172 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:20,080 don't know. I just start watching the bear. I really enjoy that, 173 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:26,960 and he's probably my fair character in that, so I'm excited. That's the 174 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,360 tough thing because I think he's a not to be mean, a low enough 175 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,639 star that I could well, I actually know it's not gonna be me. 176 00:10:31,759 --> 00:10:37,639 Mark Ruffle does mo cap sometimes, so I bet there'll be some mo cap 177 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Yeah, I think so, maybe not all, but that's some so that 178 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,759 that would make sense. Uh. And then Pedro Pascal of anybody that either 179 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:48,600 doubts or says we're gonna overexposed one like I I'm not getting that feeling. 180 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:52,720 And he's also a lot of the things he's in are in smaller roles, 181 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,919 are not the main character. And two like for me what I've read from 182 00:10:54,919 --> 00:10:58,240 me Richards, Like I said before, I feel like Pedro gonna do that 183 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,840 just because he's a great actor. I feel like him and Joseph Quinn, 184 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:05,519 which I feel like people are kind of backdoor like, those are the two 185 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:07,759 that you're like, I'm not sure about that. I'm sure in five years 186 00:11:07,799 --> 00:11:11,720 or whenever this happens, people will go back and be like, oh no, 187 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:15,039 these are actually great guys. Because with Joseph Quinn he was great and 188 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,639 Stranger Things, and I just feel like he's had like because he got really 189 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,039 popper off that I feel like there's been a pushback on him because like he 190 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,039 became so populs It's like, why I don't want them in this? I 191 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,200 don't want this. It's like we've really only seen him and myself personally only 192 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,440 in Stranger Things, and he was great in that. So it's kind of 193 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,759 like I've not seen anything to doubt him. I think backdoor people are just 194 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:35,639 trying to say, like he's not good looking enough to be Johnny Storm or 195 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,840 charismatic, which I kind of disagree because one, like if you're charismatic enough, 196 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,679 you can elude that, and two I just I get it because like 197 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,840 you have Chris Evans, and you have Michael B. Jordan, and you 198 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:48,919 have Joseph Quinn who's not like the same like GQ model look, but I 199 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,960 don't know, it is just the same thing with him and Tom Holm. 200 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,399 They're three years apart, like they could be friends, like they're in the 201 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,600 comics. I just go by, are they good actors? Yes, then 202 00:11:58,639 --> 00:12:01,399 I'm happy with that, and these are all four great actors. So the 203 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,480 last question I wanted to ask Oakland I was just gonna say, with Pedro 204 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,320 two, I feel like he's in like how old is he? He's like 205 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,440 forty eight or something. He's in his late forties. Yeah, he's twelve 206 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,840 years older than Kirby. Yeah. So like if this comes out, like 207 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:16,440 you said, like with the next five years, like if they want to 208 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,919 do any more future projects with them, like they got a strike while the 209 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,399 iron's hot. He's only got so much time on his uh wow, and 210 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:24,559 his crime gets the fucking deck Ben here, He's gonna be a grandpa here 211 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,720 pretty soon. We can't have grandpa read Richard, Well, I guess you 212 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:30,519 can. Yeah, it depends what story you want to go with. But 213 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,120 nonetheless I like the cast. And then I was going to ask you this 214 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,120 quickly, and I think I might do a bigger breakdown like a trust told 215 00:12:37,159 --> 00:12:39,480 you. But we're talking about this some discords. So this is now July 216 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,960 twenty fifth. This is two weeks after which, really I think it goes 217 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,799 Superman if Jurassic Role comes out Jurassic World, and then it's Fantastic four. 218 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:52,320 But the bigger one being you know, it's DC's first superhero versus Marvel's first 219 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,960 family. Do you think that impacts either one and just a quick off top 220 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,720 because this was the discussion joined the discord. That's like what I think has 221 00:13:00,759 --> 00:13:03,039 the overall better performance when all said done, an opening weekend, just like 222 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:09,240 the Long Legs shot out to the Long Legs movie. We're in a different 223 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,600 world now post Barbenheimer, where sometimes yeah, fucking jamshit next to each other. 224 00:13:13,639 --> 00:13:16,960 If they have some weird delineation, like you know, it could just 225 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,559 be the super fantastic that's what we could call it, where there's like this 226 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:24,840 summer of these like big blockbusters and people go see all of them. I 227 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,720 don't know, I don't think I'm I don't think I'm worried about it for 228 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,159 anyone in particular. If anything, I think it might be high Tide Rises 229 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,120 all both sort of situation. Of course, it could go the opposite way. 230 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:39,639 We'll see, but they just both suck. Yeah, and then it's 231 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,080 over. I wonder what the quality will be of those two projects that come 232 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,919 before it in the calendar year. Yes, that's very good, and we 233 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,600 continue that Marvel Bad Streak, Deadpool. It seems like it might be something 234 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:54,159 that floats above. But if those are bad, which man, I really 235 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,320 hope those two. I mean I said this about I wanted contiment, it'd 236 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,159 be great and all that, but if those two bad, maybe that maybe 237 00:14:01,159 --> 00:14:03,080 that effects it. But I think that affects it more than its proximity to 238 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,399 Superman would be my guess. But I don't know. Yeah, I think 239 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,559 if anything, it'll just boost the two of them. I think if I 240 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,000 have to put my chips on one of the one or the other, I 241 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:20,559 would say probably Superman. Just because of recent Fantastic four, Yeah hot fresh 242 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,440 like Star Universe reboot, it kind of has that like new car smell, 243 00:14:24,559 --> 00:14:28,360 like, oh, what's this? Even though it's yeah four, it's new 244 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:31,320 actors, it's still like that it's gonna be the forty eighth movie of the 245 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,639 saga known as MCU, right. And I also feel like because Superman is 246 00:14:35,759 --> 00:14:39,360 just like one of those mains on like the Mount Rushmore of DC, Like 247 00:14:39,759 --> 00:14:45,159 there's just something like we've had We've had a handful already, like you just 248 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,919 in our lifetime of of like reboots of the Superman franchise, and it just 249 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,440 still seems like there is big But I don't know. Numbers obviously top of 250 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,240 my head for like what those those remakes did, But it just seems whenever 251 00:14:56,279 --> 00:15:01,399 there's like a new Superman tale coming out there there is just some buzz just 252 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:05,720 buzzing around Man of Steel. I saw the budget. I'm like, made 253 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:11,480 two hundred twenty five million. I'm like, whatever Superman Returns did, didn't 254 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,879 do that well. But this did six hundred and sixty eight million, which 255 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:18,000 I don't think any Fantastic Four has gotten anywhere, Like, oh year was 256 00:15:18,039 --> 00:15:20,200 that again? That was ten years ago? Now the Cavil one. So 257 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:24,559 it's very much like the Batman where I know people when that came out, 258 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:26,960 you're like, oh my god, another Batman movie. But at that point, 259 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,440 it's like it's been over a decade since a solo batmanvie and at this 260 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:35,480 point for Superman that will be over ten it'll be eleven years since there's been 261 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,480 a solo Superman, which I know people say, oh, Justice League, 262 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,639 this step, but there's still to me a difference of Cavil being in a 263 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:46,919 movie for an appearance versus this movie is about Superman, and like look at 264 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,039 Fantastic four. That first one two thousand and five made three hundred and thirty 265 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,240 three million. That's in that Spider Man era. So it's like that's where 266 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,399 I'm why I just go to Superman a bit, just because I still feel 267 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,320 like Fantastic four is a bit of the nerd raised out where people always go, 268 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,399 oh, it's Marvel's first family, it's so important. But it's like, 269 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,039 I think a lot of people include myself. Not that I don't give 270 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:11,000 a ship out Fantastic for but it's lower. But my calendar is Superman legacy 271 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,039 is like quite a bit of a newer cast. I feel like even Superman 272 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,720 himself is like a new actor right where Pedro's established, Kirby's getting more established. 273 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,840 People love Joseph Quinn's Stranger Things. He's gonna be in quiet place. 274 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,919 But then the same point, like I was saying to Mike in the discord, 275 00:16:23,919 --> 00:16:26,759 where if you ask me who's gonna make a better movie between the guy 276 00:16:26,879 --> 00:16:30,360 did WandaVision than the guy who did The Three Guardians, it's like, well 277 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,919 then my money is on James Gun, you know. So that's where and 278 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,120 I think, like Dylan brought up, I won't be able to call it 279 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:41,159 till it's quick like sooner, because if Cap and Thunderbolts are disappointing, then 280 00:16:41,159 --> 00:16:45,600 I feel like that does set F four off unless it gets delayed, because 281 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,360 this could easily get delayed to November and take the Blade slot. Right, 282 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,240 But if those projects suck, I think it's kind of like what happened with 283 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,080 Antman and Secret Invasion, where people are just like, eh, Deadpool can 284 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,720 be the comeback, but then right away it's like, do they just show 285 00:16:57,799 --> 00:17:02,720 up for those big ones Pool, Avenger or Spider Man again? Right, 286 00:17:02,799 --> 00:17:07,079 and we don't know that. We like same thing with even Thunderbolts and Cap 287 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,440 four. They could be good, but what if they still bowl him too? 288 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:11,480 Right? What if people are like, eh, I don't care what 289 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:14,400 Thunderbolts like, this isn't Deadpool, this isn't Hugh Jackman, you know, 290 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,319 and Page's a big star, like bigger start, but I don't know if 291 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,359 he's big, like he's that level where it's gonna for sure be a hit. 292 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,720 But then also Superman, maybe people are like, maybe people aren't done 293 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:27,160 with Superman. Right, there's always that argument of like this past ten years, 294 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,720 is he is still like an a tier? I still think so, 295 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:33,519 but is he an a tier? And I think it's really interesting that they're 296 00:17:33,559 --> 00:17:36,599 that close because I think they both have they're not guaranteed hits, and they're 297 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,279 both kind of the start of something new where it's a start of the DCU 298 00:17:40,599 --> 00:17:42,359 and like everyone says, like you gotta get Fantastic four right this time, 299 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,160 like this is your last chance. So they kind of both can't really fail, 300 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,279 which is like gonna be a fun time that month. So I feel 301 00:17:49,279 --> 00:17:55,079 like the Batman's success too kind of makes me, uh, just I don't 302 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,720 know, think more optimistically on the Superman release. It's just with how popular 303 00:17:59,759 --> 00:18:03,039 a that was and how successful that hit, I think that maybe people will 304 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:07,319 also just have that in the back of their mind and seeing this as like 305 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,000 a fresh fresh start for another big head hauncho of the DC. Yeah DC 306 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,400 name. It's also I don't know, I think, you know, James 307 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,359 Gunn is definitely more of a name was in like the geek culture stuff. 308 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,680 But like the Three Guardians movies, even in an MCU era where things are 309 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,119 looking rough, like Guardians three still did really solid and like critically, like 310 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,279 everyone kind of loves these movies or or enjoys them at the very least, 311 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:33,920 So I I just don't know if he's that name of a director. Yeople 312 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,400 are all over him in that, but I'm sure his once again. His 313 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,119 stock is rising too as time goes on. So I think for a lot 314 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,920 of people that might even not be DC people, they might be like, 315 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,160 nah, I love the Guardians movies, I should go see this guy's take 316 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,920 on And obviously trailers could change this too in terms of what the tone of 317 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,599 it is and how joky or how serious it is. But yeah, I 318 00:18:55,599 --> 00:18:57,400 don't know's I love Slither. You know people are going to be coming out 319 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,799 for from the director's Lither and super Yeah no, yeah, Mike' said the 320 00:19:02,839 --> 00:19:04,680 same Yeah, Mike said the same thing to you as you did. And 321 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,960 yeah, I'm not saying I think he's like a Nolan. I just think 322 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,359 more in the sense of, like, okay, if if one film ends 323 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,119 up being better and gets talked about, I could see Superman being like the 324 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,200 you know, if you can only see one, what's a person gain say, 325 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:22,519 like, oh you see Superman? Because MC who knows? Because like, 326 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:25,920 I love WandaVision but still at issues and it could still connective stuff and 327 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:27,880 I like it being the sixties. But I also don't know if I need 328 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,880 another story of oh these superheroes you didn't know we're around, We're doing these 329 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,440 things, but they were gone for a while and now they're you know, 330 00:19:34,519 --> 00:19:37,680 like they're like, we got that Captain Marvel, we got that Captain America. 331 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,519 I think there's another one in there, like we don't need the rints 332 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:44,839 repeat of the same plot point. That's why I'm actually kind of hoping those 333 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,400 rumors up there in an alternate timeline completely and then up in our sacred time. 334 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:52,680 That's fun because not only are you sixties to current day, sixties to 335 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,759 like current day, and this is a different Tony Stark, this is a 336 00:19:56,759 --> 00:20:00,200 different Captain in America. Like that I think is more intriguing than just that 337 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:03,839 we've seen the whole Oh what there's you know, you have toasters. Now 338 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,079 you have like I don't need the whole you know you have HDTV TV, 339 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,880 Yeah there's yeah, yeah, Spider Man. Yeah, there's spider people in 340 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:19,599 the Peruvium. Yeah, Okay, more universe. They're everywhere. Oh I 341 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,759 don't know them, Peter. Anyways, let's get out here. We'll talk 342 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:26,240 about that more in the coming weeks and more news comes out. We'll get 343 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:27,599 Tearor's take on too. You at some point let us know what you think. 344 00:20:27,599 --> 00:20:30,160 That's why I joined the discord let us know, thank you very much 345 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,759 for tuning. This is just a little mini point five episode that's not that 346 00:20:33,759 --> 00:20:37,480 Madame Riverview and uh check out Halo that's coming up this week and I promise 347 00:20:37,519 --> 00:20:41,400 you can't hear that. Definitely not be born, U