The weird thing that happened in Weird, Weird Weird. Welcome to a special
episode of Bledsoe Said So, Episode one thirty four. I'm gonna just let
it. Uh. Nick couldn't be here with us today. It was just
a kind of an impromptu thing. My brother happened to be in town,
so we're like, dang, well, we got to record. But Nick's
not in town, so he will be missed. He's with us in spirit.
Today we have my brother and our first ever Bledsoe guest, Jeremy Van
Bledsoe a ka Monkey d Loofy. I'm here into his That's what I'm saying.
Dude, what's up? What's up with you? Pretty good? Living
the dream, living life, enjoying life, working, working out and playing
golf. Hell yeah, just live, just doing and doing what I normally
do. Yeah, we've been hitting some golf lately, more so you than
me, but more so me than you for sure. But that's just what
I've been up to. Yeah, and yeah, relationship, traveling, work,
chilling, chilling, hacking, doal pickle chips, That's what I'm talking
about, bro. Yeah, I love my Dill pickle chips. So I
wanted to I don't think you've been on since like the book and all this
other stuff has come out, So I wanted to kind of generally talk about
that. But like our little family has taken a crazy turn in the last
year and a half, you know, far stuff has been happening. Yeah,
so I have to say, like, you've read the book, yep,
right, So what was it like for you? I mean they noticed
like for me, But what was it like for you when you know the
book came out, like the feelings you had inside, you know, all
of it, the whole experience it was. It was surreal for sure,
because like I didn't I wasn't the first to read it. I was probably
the last. And uh, it wasn't a matter of just apprehension. It
was just life catching me by the rains, new work responsibilities that the year
turned over. So my work it's really busy as the year turns over.
And uh, maybe it was like a little bit of delay that just maybe
like a mental block thing, and maybe I was just ready. It was
gonna read it whenever I was ready to read it. But I'm glad I
did when I did, because it it hit pretty hard. There were some
parts that were like like about me. You know, it's kind of hard
to read, but not you know, I powered through it, and it
was It was freaking much better than I thought it was gonna be honest,
for sure, it was really well written. Like I just growing up,
I'm like, ah, you know, my dad doesn't write a book.
Cool, I've been hearing it for ten years and then and I'm thinking,
like it it can't be that good. But then I read it and to
be sure, it was that good. Yeah. I remember those like when
when Dad signed the contract and it was like, oh wow, this is
real, like he's going to write a book, right, And I was
kind of like having Dad send me the chapters as he was writing them,
and I remember when I read the first chapter, I was like, dang,
it's going to be like that, like this this is going to be
a hit, you know. And I remember like reading some of those early
chapters a year before the book was published and just having tears in my eyes,
like this is gonna this is going to change the world. Remember I
read the first chapter and then I didn't read the others, just the first
one when he sent it, because you know, he would send all of
them. But I kind of purposely didn't want to read it before it came
out, because I wanted to just experience it as it came out when it
was what was whole, I suppose, But you know, going through it,
I probably could have. I probably should have read it, especially about
the parts that were about me, so I could have proved it about myself.
Not to say I disagreed with any of it, but like, there's
probably some things I might have said differently about myself, you know, Like
but other than that, I thought it was spot on for sure. It
was really good. Yeah. I thought it depicted the like it depicted what
happened in a light that's palatable for pretty much the general audience, because you
know, growing up, I didn't think the book would be interesting because I
existed in it, you know, it was I I was there. So
I'm like, well, you know I've already I've already so to speak,
readit, you know, So it's I just did I didn't. I don't
know, I'm not trying to sound like a hater, but like I just
I just like, how can I how can it be that good to you?
Right? And then like I was very pleasantly surprised whenever I read it,
it was great. No, I always I always figured it would be
good, just because you know, our dad wrote it. But then actually
reading the book, it's like, oh my god, this is really good.
Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying. Like, I had these
same thoughts, yea, and I was very pleasantly surprised. And I wonder
if it's also like, uh, like maybe it's also part of the trauma
of thinking like nothing good could happen to us, right, this can't be
good. And then it was and a lot of things, a lot of
good has come as a result of it too. Yeah, you know.
So it's it's pretty nice to have in my back pocket too. Hey my
dad's an author. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, oh, I tell
people all the time, my middle name and my last name are two very
renowned authors, Dickens and bloodsoe you know, Charles Dickens and Chris Botze.
Yes, we are on the same family tree as Charles Dickens, very distantly.
But yeah, so I wanted to ask you, like, how has
your life been impacted by and or changed from and since the book? Because
it came out what last February, So it's been this next month will be
a year. A year, that's crazy. February nineteenth. I think I
would think it's It's not like I mean, I've not had people come up
and talk to me or anything like that. It's not like that. But
I think it's just mental clarity, maybe just the the curse, so to
speak, being lifted from yourself, the curses that we apply to ourselves,
you know, just kind of like a reducing the weight on my shoulder.
It's kind of like reducing a burden because when you internalize something for so long
and you feel like people can't really relate or stair stand due, but now
there are people out there who do. It's almost like a maybe it's a
placebo effect. I don't know, because I'm not even talked to people about
it, but just knowing that other people were able to experience it through the
lens of the book kind of takes the pressure off. I totally get it,
if that makes sense, Yeah, because it's knowing that for the first
time there's like a condensed version of the story that people can read and digest
in the comments and the feedback. Yeah, Dad's book was basically going viral.
I mean, it was like out of the thirty million plus books on
Amazon, Dads was in like the top one thousand out of thirty plus million
books. I mean, it was a crazy hit, dude, it was.
It was selling out an Amazon's presses. Did you know that? M
hm? They had to like go go for several reprint prints because it was
selling and and and and the point of that not to talk about sales,
but the point of it is to just say, like, Dad saw a
huge overwhelming positive feedback, positive reception, positive success from it, and like
that has trickled to us. Yeah, and I think he needs that more
than we do. Like, yeah, he needed that. I mean,
like the the energy of it, the attitude about it has has definitely shifted
its trickle to us. Oh yeah, and I don't like it. Yeah,
it feels good. It's dope, man. I'll be handing out copies
no, yeah, yeah, I mean I don't have copies to hand out,
but I you know, whenever people are interested, I wish I had
one to give them, but you know, I don't. But I've tried
to do that with some friends and Dad was like, no, I'm gonna
I gotta save these and give them to some other people. So I'll have
to get my own, you know, and so I can hand them to
my friends at home, but then again I just make them buy it.
Yeah, him, Yeah, twenty bucks, You've got it. It's been,
it's been. It's been a blessing for sure. Very nice. Yeah,
very wary, And some amazing developments came around since the book has come
out. I mean, our lives have rapidly changed. And then you know,
actually a month before the book released last February, so then it was
last January. Uh, we filmed with the History Channel, so then I
wanted to kind of get into that too, but like where, Uh,
it's the same question, like how how how do you feel about that?
How has your life changed since that? You know, uh, the History
now again, it's kind of like the similar vibe, like you know,
I'm not nothing, no direct impacts. I think change happens over time.
You know, unless you win the lottery then you're a millionaire overnight potentially,
but that's not the case in this The wealth of I've accumulated as a result
of all that stuff is just stress relief, like reduction and anxiety and maybe
even like an an increase in confidence in myself and like just accepting who seeing
widespread acceptance helps me accept it better, Not to say I don't I didn't
accept it. It was just more so I internalized and repressed and just hid
that part of my life. But as a result of all of that,
like I found a new girlfriend that's brilliant into it all, I've seen great
Like stuff at work has popped off in a way. This positioned me.
I'm positioned to grow within my my career and growing like technically with my technical
specifications and just getting stronger and more equipped to do more difficult tasks at work.
So just it just like I've had nothing but positives. Yeah, so
you're saying so like since all this stuff has come out, not that it
directly impacted you know, your career and things like that, but you're saying
you've noticed a positive mental effect that's allowed you to I think that's the greatest
wealth is your perspective. Yeah, I mean money is money, like that's
whatever, And I can buy you things, which is not like you know,
money can buy can put a down payment on happiness, that is what
people tell me, Like it can put a down payment on happiness. You
can go buy a car with money, But you can't buy peace and joy
with money, at least I can't. So it's uh, yeah, the
perspective shift is what led to the greatest growth in my life. So I
wonder, do you do you want to talk a little bit about how you
were portrayed in the book? Like sure? So obviously if they're listening,
chances are they've most likely read it. And if you guys recall when when
all this you know, UFO stuff started happening. Me and Jeremy were in
high school at the time. I believe Chris Junior was out of high school
by the time it aired. He was he was eighteen years old. When
when the when the initial documentary aired and went public and Jeremy, Jeremy had
a little bit of a hard time. You know. The way Dad portrayed
it was basically, you know, you ran away from it. He said,
I turned my back, and I was like, yeah, And I
guess that's how you can say it. But it's not that simple. It's
not like from his perspective, I can see why he would say that.
But from my perspective is I was just trying to I'm trying to find my
place in the world, Like I'm just turning twenty years old or like eighteen
nineteen twenty, getting into that area, and it's like, that's about the
time where I have to start looking at my future, looking trying to build
position myself. Like it was normal time for a kid to go to college,
that's all it was, right. I was college age. I went
to college, and of course I wanted to go outside of Fayetteville. Who
doesn't want to go move out of home and experience life outside of the Uh,
the the graphs of their parents were like the oversight of their parents.
You know. I wanted to go out and be on my own person.
So went to college at UNCW, got my accounting degree, and you know,
pursue my education after that, find a career, and just establish myself
in this world as an independent normal like just not normal, but like human
that is productive and become very proud of but not sufficient self sufficient. I'm
independent, not to say that I turn my back on all of it,
but I had to digest it and internalize it and move about my life the
way that I only knew how to do. Right. But I could see
why Dad thought that yeah, well yeah, I mean there was a time
in Dad's life where at some point, you know, it's like the default
assumption. Yeah, if you don't get what you want, like you don't
get that validation you receive. It's like, okay, it's black or white.
You either love it or you don't. Either for it or you're not.
And like that's in heightened anxiety, Like that's where our mind's minds are
more black and white and a heightened elevated emotional states, you know what I
mean. Yeah, and those can persist over many, many years. So
no, I get it. I get why. Well, yeah, I
was just gonna say, there was a time in Dad's life where, you
know, not us, we were children, but like everybody in his life,
especially when this stuff was going down, everybody did turn their backs on
that way. Genuinely they did so, Like I personally could see why in
Dad's perspective, you know, you going away and not really always wanting to
deal with this stuff, which is totally fair. Man. We were kids,
and it's like, dude, you can't imagine how hard it is going
on a date and being like, yeah, my family's famous for UFOs.
It's tough. Believe believe us. It's tough, you know, and it's
it's a big You took my route, which was you know, oh my
god, I'm obsessed with this stuff and I'm all in it, and then
you took Jeremy's route, like god, I just want a normal life for
a minute, and I could. I could breathe, yeah, breathe and
not be known for that, and under that like a thumb squishing you down,
and I could see why Dad felt like, oh, Jeremy's going away,
But like that, I always knew that wasn't the case, you know,
I mean, we were having experiences together. And it's funny though,
because like you know, going on dates, like you said, going on
date and just trying like, hey, tell me about yourself. Oh Dadsy's
aliens and they're either like what or like holy shit, okay take me home.
You know this is ye this, I'm not about this. So it's
it's it's hard to it's hard to gauge reactions like how you would get that,
But eventually it's just like like, yeah, you know, a UFO
kid, I call myself the UFO prince. I wouldn't one of the UFO
princes. That's funny, am I one? Yeah? Sweet? And Emily
is the UFO princess. So Dad's the UFO King. Yeah, but like,
I'm not trying to sell anything here, I'm just you know, it's
just that's my first time hearing that. Yeah. No, I've been saying
that for a little bit, but yeah, I just I just excuse me.
I just accepted it and just you know, owned it. And then
and the book and the podcast and a lot of like a lot of what's
come as a result of all that has helped me get to that point.
And then I'm like, you know, I find myself in positions where I
talk to people and they crave it. They want it bad, they want
to know so bad, especially after these recent media pushes. And now I'm
like, okay, hold on, I've heard this story a thousand times.
I've told it a handful of times. But now, you know, if
I want to, if I want to, if I want somebody to know
it, I just to defer him to a video like the Danny Jones podcast
or like episodes of your podcasts the History Channel are just like, hey,
here's a book, you know, yeah, consume it. It's nice.
It'll do all that before me. It's really nice. I don't have to
butcher the story. So it's n it's it's really cool. It's really cool
now. I just wanted to get that out of the way for anybody who's
read the book and then has seen you for the first time since I just
wanted to clarify, like, no, no, no, no, no,
Jeremy. Jeremy was having experiences the whole time. He was just like
any other kid who has a traumatic experience. At the time, we were
children, you know, and he I think some people just cope with things
in different ways. And I think for you, it was just easier to
get away from it all so that you could think clearly, you know,
about your life and and that's completely respectful and fine. You know. I
just wanted to, uh, thanks, talk about that. But things are
different now. I mean we're kind of like all into it. And I
wanted to say this man, and you can comment on this, you know
who I've seen the biggest change in his mom. Yeah, true, it's
crazy. Mom is making jokes about being an alien. I know, she's
kind of like going full circle into it. She's the Queen UFO. It's
pretty wild, isn't it. Yeah, it is. It's awesome. Yeah,
it's definitely a relief because it's like there's no more friction, or it's
not that there's nearly as much friction around it all as it used to be.
What can people say when the book is doing well and we have these
TV appearances and what are they are they still gonna say, Oh, you're
you're you're lying, You're like really, I mean, we got all these
people investigating us and stuff. It has an impact on people. They don't
really speak up so much anymore. Have you noticed mm hmm mm hmm.
Mom gets to say my husband's an author. It's pretty sweet. Yeah,
it's pretty good for her. Yeah, sure, it's definitely here the family
members making little jokes or hear them do do stuff like what is it like
the typical alien noise? They do that to you or something that you They
never did that to me really, yeah, and like oh funny, let's
go back to like mess on my phone or something people did that to you.
Yeah, nobody ever did that to me. That's messed up. I
know see that I would be running away too. Yeah, just it was
hard to and I got your older cousins and ship. It's like disrespectfulness.
It's kind of hard to People are cruel. Man, They're savage. People
in this world are vicious, cruel when you when you you know, when
you go through something and and you truly are on the bottom and you're suffering
like we did, and then like to see how people come in and treat
you, It's it's really eye opening, like how evil people can be.
But I have to say, man, like our little family's doing all right.
We're doing all right with all this stuff, and it's pretty freaking sweet.
But yeah, I'm really grateful for all this stuff that's that's coming out.
And I was just gonna say, we're all on board with it.
And and you know, we were hanging out with Dad. We're we're having
our crazy or sightings and seeing stuff and and it's pretty wild. But I
wanted to talk about like some of the recent sightings we had had. Uh
huh. You know, I can't remember the last time that you and I
were there together, but I know since you've been on the podcast last we've
had half a dozen nights where we've seen some pretty crazy things. A few
years. I felt like, are you hearing some change rather not you I
was on last year. No, I don't think you were. I think
it was the year before. Yeah, Yeah, it's been a while,
so year and some change. Okay, any of those experiences between now and
then that have stood out to you, I'm trying to. Yeah, I
mean, like, honestly, one of the more recent ones, it was
you weren't even there, stuck out. It was just me, Dad,
pretty sure, Josh was Josh was there, that's right, Yeah, our
cousin Josh. Yeah, and stuff just sparking, sparkling throughout the sky and
doing its own, you know, doing what it normally does. And you
know, I'm the one that's I'm I'm I'm I lack expression sometimes, you
know, I'm I'm the I feel like I'm the hardest to impress. Mom's
the hardest to impress. Yeah, but I'm I'm up there with her.
But I'm not a skeptic, don't get me wrong. I'm just you know,
desensitized, cool dope, you know. But then sometimes I'm like,
holy shit, what what is that? And I had some of those moments
with Dad and Josh, our cousin. Christmas, it was yeah, is
there a Christmas? Yeah? This Christmas night? Yeah, Christmas night,
And that was fun. You know. There have been a few nights where
when I'm by myself, I don't spend much time outside. I'm playing games,
you know, or watching the piece, or watching the piece with my
roommate. One piece, yeah, one pieces, watch it, Alex Dragon
Wazie and we'll get you on it. But no, I think that like
the the most entertaining, the fun and the fun sightings that I have,
definitely when we're with everybody. Yeah, Dad, obviously, you know that's
just like that's just like his hobby every night for Dad. Yeah, he
sees him every night if it's not cold or cloudy, cloudy or well cloudy
now too, but rainy. You don't even want to go out when it's
cloudy really, yeah, but generally colder and he bombs and stuff. But
yeah, no, for sure. But you know, especially with Little Teddy,
I spend a lot of times, a lot of a lot of time
just watching his videos he puts, he tags us in on on Instagram.
Watch those and some of those are crazy. I like seeing well. I
always enjoy whenever satellites come by and people are like, dang, miss Chris,
what is that And He's like, oh satellite, yeah, and they're
like, oh okay. He's always honest about this. You know he's not
playing games. Oh no, that's SpaceX, Like, oh, okay,
cool, that's a funny story. Man. I'm not going to say any
names here, but we have an uncle who you know what I'm about to
say, who notoriously is like boo to the UFO stuff. He's a hater.
Yeah, we love him to death. Not like hater in the mean
sense, but hater just because about the UFO st. He has his convictions,
right, he can't believe it. It's evil. Yeah, Jesus didn't
dine on the planets kind of thing. And he's always been very vocal like
it's wrong, Like you'd be shocked at how people are just willing to speak
up and tell you your life is a lie and you're living in sin and
blah blah blah because you see things. And recently he called my dad freaking
out. Our dad obviously, Chris, Chris, I'm seeing something in the
sky. I'm seeing something in the sky. And Dad was like, yeah,
it's SpaceX. Talk about like irony. You know, it's just the
one time he ever called and it was it was a subtlee. I thought
that was so funny, SpaceX. This is ironic. So what happened that
night with you and Josh? Describe what you saw. Oh, I think
I don't remember if we were with Emily or not. Maybe not. It
was Christmas Eve, by the way, now that I think about it,
yeah, Christmas Eve, and we were just Josh came over an eighteen year
old cousin and uh, it's me Dad, Josh and I think Emily,
I'm not sure. And we were just standing outside when we're normally staying and
you know, just the move was there and we were just looking around and
seeing things move about the sky. And then me and Josh are just I'm
just glad. I I have a a focused problem. I'm looking around everywhere
all the time, people walking and I'm looking at things, looking at people,
looking at I'm just I barely pay attention and just looking up, just
talking to Josh. He's sitting right beside me, and I'm like, yeah,
blah blah blah. And then something shoots across the sky. But it's
not like a normal like you know, just moving across the sky. That
thing blistered like gone, and it's like you can you know, we spent
a lot of time looking at the sky. So when you see like a
or a comment, whatever you kind of have, you get you get good
identifying those types of things and differentiating them between what you're what you can't really
identify so or not other day you can't, but things that are unidentified rather,
you know. And it was like green and kind of like orange yellow
logan like it normally does. And it had it had a nice streak it
left too, and it was more than just two to three seconds. It
was just I, you know, I could process like I was processing it
as I see it normally when I see a comments out of the corner of
my eye and I look at it for half a second and like boom is
gone. But that was present. It was there. It was It was
momentous, Yeah, it was. It lingered and uh, I couldn't tell
you the direction it was going, but it just flew across the sky.
It was really cool and and and and normally it's I always find it weird
because, like like I said a comment, I never I'm never looking this
guy and I see something move in my fobial vision. It's always I see
it in my peripheral and I take the others of it and then I and
then I glance at it, right, but this just happened in my like
in my eyes, you know what I mean? Dead on, dead on.
Yeah, as I was looking at it, I was focusing in the
like at the spot that it happened. As it happened, has an experience
like a rocket taking Josh really yeah, a really fast freaking rocket. Do
So, how was Josh reacting? Josh? I mean, he's also lack.
He's not very expressive, like I feel like he's a he's a he's
a he's a thinker. I feel like, yeah, he can, he
analyzes, and I'm pretty sure he was pretty much like honestly, when it
all happen, Dad like kind of started talking and like what what y'all see
you in? Emily's like where is it? Was it? I was like,
it is right there? And then Josh was kind of like chiming in,
not like super excited, like that's not how he is. He's chill,
He's chill, but he was. He thought it was really cool,
awesome, very He's very inquisitive about it all and talks of Dad and asks
and talks and asks. Josh is our eighteen year old cousin. Shout out
Josh He's very special to us, and his mother is my dad's younger sister.
And that was his first time skywatching with us ever as far as I
know, and you know, since he was an adult and he's got his
own vehicle now. He drove out and hung out and he had been.
It was Christmas Eve and we were at a family party and I got to
talking with him and I was like, Bro, we're gonna be hanging out
tonight if you want to come, and Josh was like, yeah, I
honestly really want to see some morebs. I was like, really, yeah,
come over tonight. So that was kind of yeah, and it was
kind of profound that we got to have that experience with him, you know,
because typically we don't have these experiences with family because typically family has been
the haters. Yeah, so it was pretty cool that we got to have
that moment with him. It was very special. And I ended up showing
up late. I wasn't there at the moment you were skywatching with then loss,
Yeah, exactly. It's funny talk about like families being the haters.
It's like they don't necessarily hate more or less than the other people. It's
just there's cut deeper yeah, because we're stuck with them. Not that I
don't want to be stuck with them, it's just the reality of the situation.
You're You're with your family your whole life. Yeah, love my family,
and family will sometimes slit your throat worse than anybody. They go for
blood and they get away with it. Yeah yeah, yeah, But enough
about the negative stuff. That's wild. Man. I'm glad y'all had that
experience. I wanted to. You may have told this before on the podcast,
but it was probably years ago if you did, and that's okay,
listeners have probably long forgotten. And this is an instance in the book that
I wanted to rehash with you, and maybe a could jock your memory in
different ways. But let's talk about that day back in like two thousand and
eight or nine. We're kids. I'm fourteen, you're fifteen. It's the
last day of summer, and we're gonna go knee boarding at the river.
That was in the book. Yeah, Okay, that wasn't. I'm pretty
sure yeah it was. It was, so what happened, I was,
uh, I gotta think it was uh. It was in the red room,
yep, and I was sitting on a couch against the back wall of
that room. Mind you, the room is lined well, mind the audience.
The room is lined with mirrors, like every two feet there's a mirror
window outside window window. It was almost like a sun room without the mirror,
the windows at the time, the skyroof or whatever. Right, you
know what I'm saying. Right, it was Dad's like man cave. We
called the red Room. The walls were red painted, it brown painted it
brown. It was the red room because it was brown for the past few
years. But anyway, we were sitting down watching some TV. I don't
know, and I was sitting with my mom. She was probably like I'm
sitting at the end of the couch. Mom's sitting like right here. I'm
probably just you know, I'm I was always close to my mom, so
I was like leaning on her, hugging or whatever, and I'm watching the
TV, just zoned in on Stargate SG one, you know, and Mom
is, look, I don't know what she was doing, but she was
just being a d D or whatever, just looking around, not paying attention
to Stargate sc one because god forbid, Mom's not gonna watch that. But
she I think it was over y'all's heads. Yeah, I was. I
was on the couch across from you, and behind my head was windows,
so it was behind my head. Yeah, And then you know, I
didn't see it straight on. I remember how I talked about peripheral versus the
fobial. This was in my peripheral, but it was in Mom's fouvial.
She made eye contact with it. She's the one that can tell you the
facial features and the eyes and like what it looked, like, what it
was doing. You know, I just saw it out of the corner.
But I saw it is a I think it was. I was just watching
TV and something popped into the mirror to my right window window. Dang it,
it's just those two works right left mirror window, Tomato Tomato. But
looked through the window. Something popped into the window and I looked over and
by the time I looked, it had already disappeared. But I was like,
hey, guys, did somebody just pop their head through the window.
And Mom looked at me and she was like, did you see that too?
I was like, heck, yeah, I saw that. What was
that? Who was that? She was like, I don't know, and
she started freaking out and basically made Ryan and I go outside and like scour
the house and like look around. We had neighbors that might have sometimes would
pull up and knock on our back doors, like dad's old childhood friends,
you know, like best friends growing up would come over, Hey, Chris,
you know got a cigarette? Like yeah here, sure, or something
like that. You know, but that wasn't the case because we looked everywhere
and like the time that we caught it, there's no way those old men
could have just like ran. Well. Remember the main thing that freakd mom
Ount so bad is the house was on a slab. Yeah, the platform
it was on like a like the window, That's what I'm saying. I'm
getting to that. It was like, there's no way it could have been
any one of our friends from the area. Like also because the base of
that window was touching seven foot tall and none of us are Whatever looked through
that window had to be seven or eight foot tall. It was very tall
because you know, houses back up into the past ten years were built on
a two to two and a half foot foundation and you put the pipes in
like the potentially the AC systems underneath or the plumbing underneath the wiring underneath and
you had to carl it. But you know, they don't do that anymore.
But that was the case with our house, and that that joker was
just staring through the window and it was rainy. Glad I see I did.
I couldn't make that connection because it was but I saw it and it
was like almost like a like a brownish, like a darker color. So
my mind, I'm like, oh, body cool. And then Mom was
like, no, sir, go outside now. And I'm like, but
Mom, it's raining, I don't want to go outside. She's a gross
side. So we go outside. We look around and to be sure there's
nobody out there. But something made eye contact with Mom. But I'll never
forget that because of how like pale she was. She was terrified. Yeah,
and of course Dad starts laughing at her. That was right before the
Dac Manry came out. Yeah, like just a few months. Yeah.
What would you say in your experience in the last seventeen years, what would
you say has been your most you could say like profound or impactful experience Hmmm,
some of them like personal experiences, probably not none that I've shared with
people, or none that I've publicly spoke about that were pretty impactful. That
would kind of just remind me that I'm gonna be all right regardless of what
social factors or environmental factors or are or like external forces are pressing against me.
I'm gonna be all right. But things like that would happen, that
would I That's what I would Those are the conclusions I would draw based off
the experiences that I had in that moment. It was kind of like going
to church on Sunday, You're like, oh, reset, not gonna send
them for the next two days or three days, you know what I mean.
Friday comes along, I'm drinking, you know what I mean, and
then go out to Sunday. Then you're clean. But no, it was
it was kind of like that where it's like I would have I would be
really down and out and then something would happen and it would be like a
reset, Like I'll be It would remind me that things would be like things
are gonna be okay. Like at unc when I was here at UNCW my
first or second semester, I was living alone, and I'm pretty sure some
I was visited at my bedside. Yeah, yeah, I saw them tell
me about it. They were like I didn't see their faces, but I
could see them at my bed and I I would wake I will, I
woke up and look. I was looking at like their torsos. And I
was petrified because I was like, somebody is leaning over me right now,
and it was, and I could hear it in my head and it was
and it kind of reminded me of Mom, like that kind of warm providing
presence saying you're gonna be all right. So I just went bad to sleep.
This is my first time hearing of this. Yeah, it was.
It was. I kept that one to myself, but they were there.
I somebody might say it was sleep process. I wouldn't know. I've never
it's never happened to me before. It's never happened again, nothing of that
magnitude. But well, yeah, I don't think you, being in the
position that you're in and with the reputation that we have, I don't think
you need to try to like logic away what it could have been. I've
seen them at the foot of my bed, Emily has seen them in her
room, Junior has seen them in his room. Dad has seen them in
his room. So I think you probably saw them in your room. They
were. It was in Wilmington. I have not been like in a situation
like that where I'm like sleeping and I wake up and see them. But
I have had nights where I'm trying to fall asleep, Genny's in bed beside
me, and I just have an active mind and I'm not like seeing anything,
but I'm feeling their presence and I feel something touching me. I don't
seething, felt it on my back, like feel them touched as if Mom
was like whispering in my ear like You're all right, honey, don't worry
about it. You're gonna be good. And to be sure, I was,
I was ump done all right. But yeah, that was probably the
most, uh, the single most impactful like moment regarding this phenomenon for me.
Wow. That and the woman my friend in the car with Roger and
he was like the fuck was that? Like that one after that concert?
Yeah? And Raleigh. That was a big one because it was just somebody
that I had with me that had he had a clue because I'm like,
yeah, you know, UFO is my dad, and they're like, oh
cool, all right. So the Lakers, you know, just start talking
about like basketball stuff or football, and he was like, I'm pretty sure
I just saw something I'm not supposed to see. And I was like,
hell, yeah you did, Yeah you did, dude. So that was
pretty impactful because it was just who was with me, but not yeah,
that's just in recent years. But the one with like the bedside for frame
of reference, it was about the time when Papa passed away. I don't
know if it was before or after, it was just in that time frame,
so like twenty thirteen ish, uh huh, yeah, yeah, because
it had just gotten to Wilmington, like twenty twelve or so. Yeah,
because I was living by myself and I only lived by myself for one year
there and then after that I lived with my best friend for until I moved
out from mont So can you walk me through that? Just the feeling part
of it. The experience started off and you were petrified and then it changed
into this loving feeling and then ended up being one of the most impactful.
Well yeah, I mean, like imagine and just waking up in your room
and something things are there staring at you. For me, I think it
was two. Okay, I couldn't say I couldn't have my awareness, but
I was so in that moment, so scared because you know something about me.
When I wake up, I'm in I'm in Jerry Jeremy Land. Like
I don't. I'm delirious half the time. And so when I woke up
and I say that to say like I woke up, I was like my
mind started running soon as I woke up, because I was like, I
feel a presence. I feel more than one presence. Am I going crazy?
Am I delirious? What's going on? No? I'm not, because
I not only do I feel them, I see them and I hear them.
And then they started talking, like not talking like blah blah blah blah,
but more so like conveying messages into my brain. And they passed by
me and then I kind of just sunk down. Passed all my exams,
which is great. And it was just like I said, it was just
a warm, soothing presence. But I wasn't made aware of the kind of
presence it was until they provided me with that information. But at first it
was me analyzing, like, oh shit, there's something in here I need,
Like I could be they could they could try and kill me. It
could be people with guns or knives, or whatever. I don't know,
So that's what that was. I was scared for my life. I didn't
know what it was that was. I was in presence with and then after
being pacified and then thinking about comfort day comforted, thank you keep saying passified,
and like after after that, after I woke up the next day,
I could think about it. And I'm pretty sure I called Dad or I
called mom within a couple of days and I told them. But yeah,
no, I kept that one largely to myself. But now I was probably
one of the most scared I've ever been. Like, I was so scared
I couldn't move. I've never been like that. That's how it was at
the time. I think that's amazing because like this would have been the time
in your life where like as the book mentions that you were like running away
from it all, you know. And I think maybe the reader reads that
and they're like, oh, wow, Chris's kids, you know, they
weren't all into it. But that's not the case. We were all into
it. We weren't all into the vicious hate and negativity we were receiving from
people, and we're wanting to get away from that. But what's crazy is
you know, while Jeremy's gone on his character arc. And as you know,
if anybody knows you, for the most part, it's going to be
bled So Satso or the book right as far as your public appearances. But
we're learning here. I'm learning I didn't know about this experience. I've never
heard of this story at all. This is shocking to me. This is
the reality of what's happening when you're running away from it all. You're really
not running away from it all. You're just going to your solitude so that
you can try to my fortress. Yeah, your fortress, solitude, but
but you're having experiences in your bedroom. It's kind of like poetry, you
know, like you never got away from it. Man, No, you
you just thought that you just needed a break. I wanted to be in
a place where nobody kne who I was. Yeah, so I could define
like I could not only because I barely knew what I who were, what
what I was because after that, un well, dang, I'm not some
little normal little kid that goes to church and prays and goes to school,
gets a job, gets a wife, you know, does all this like
I'm the u FO prince or one of them. I like that, you
know, so you know that's that's kind of relatively new. It's been like
within the last year. I've been saying it, but I think it's because
of the book. No less, Yeah, it probably is. That's awesome.
The prince one of the princes, but no, it's I guess that'd
be Chrisopher. He would be the prince. He's first in the line.
Yeah, he was there the original night. Yeah, he's he deserves that
for sure. We can be like the Duke's or something. Yeah. Well,
no, we're just prince to the lords, you know, We're just
not next in line. Yeah, Christopher is anyway, what was your question?
I don't think I had a question. I was just commenting how awesome
that is. Like from the listener, I'm just trying to paint a picture
for them to understand you and your position, and you're placing all this.
I mean, they've seen me one hundred plus episodes, but I'm not the
only one that's been dealing with this stuff, you know. I just think
it's crazy that even in your time, when you're like going away, you're
still having experiences in your bedroom a tonight. So you have told that about
that experience maybe, but who knows, maybe I have who knows if he
listens, if he remembered rather he definitely listens, and he definitely listens.
Yeah, he listens. But it's been so that's been ten ten eleven twelve
years, so not twelve but ten eleven years. So it's's many, so
much, so many things happen, Like obviously it happened to me. Is
impacted me the most, So I'm gonna remember that. You know, Dad
sees so much, does so much, interacts with so many different people,
going to Florida or going to California, going to Maine, going to Delaware,
going here, that, blah blah blah. So there's no way he
can keep it all in his mind. Nobody can do that, right,
So I don't expect him to remember that. But then again, he could
surprised you and be like, yeah, I remember when you told me that,
m and he'll recount it to you. You're like, oh, okay,
yeah, he is hard to forget stuff like when it comes to that.
Do you know what happened a few weeks ago when he went to Tarborough?
You remember we were I was thinking about it because I drove through Tarborough
yesterday. I forgot to ask him, you don't know what happened? Uh,
let's talk about it, because I haven't said it on the podcast yet.
Yeah, it's pretty wild. I don't mean to ask him about that.
Alex. When did y'all do the Heart Center September? September? Yeah,
that sounds right. Okay, so we have talked about that on the
show. I'm going to breeze right past that just in case you're not aware
of that situation. Do you know what happened there? I mean I know
that, like when you're referring to like a specific event. Maybe again,
well, like talk to me about it. Yeah, Like back in September,
he went to the Heart there were probably seventy people there, maybe by
the end of the night there were about fifty you know, people leave or
whatever, and the skywatched in the whole crowd saltwarbs oh co right, And
that was impactful. That was significant. That was a big deal. Has
never happened yet with that size of the crowd. I think Dad's biggest crowd
before that was like twenty Anyway, So two weekends ago, he goes to
Tarboro. We were invited. We both couldn't make it. Just here.
Yeah, you were here, and that's why we couldn't make it. And
anyway, so Dad calls me the next night after he's leaving Tarborough, and
the Tarboro thing was a small It was like a speaking event hosted at a
church in Tarboro, North Carolina, and there were probably fifty people there,
and it was like it wasn't a church event, it was just a talk
for Dad hosted at a church. So there was probably fifty people lined in
the pews and Dad's at the front, like at the podium, like just
telling his story, talking about the book whatever. And he told me that
at some point in the middle of his talk, he just said, do
you all want to see an orb? I filled them out there right now,
and he bolted out the door, and the whole crowd, fifty people
get up out of their pews, they follow him out the door. He's
getting confident, and they all saw it. He's getting confident. I have
videos sent to me from people in our discord who were there that night with
Dad's voice there. What the fuck? You know, there might not be
saying that in the video, but that's the vibe. They're oh my god,
what is that. What is that the whole crowd saw? And you're
right, Dad is getting confident, the sense is getting stronger. It's crazy.
Yeah, that's awesome. Now I heard him telling that story to somebody.
I just thought he was referring to Thanksgiving. Remember that Thanksgiving? Yeah,
that's that's what I thought. No, I was there for that on
Thanksgiving. He was telling Jackie, is what it was. He was,
you're Jackie. Yeah, he was telling my Jackie last week when he visited
and fixed my sink. It's relevant. But yeah, I heard him over
I overheard him telling that story. I just didn't know his reference to Tarborough.
But I've been meaning to ask him about that because it was like last
weekend, right two weekends ago. I think, Okay, yeah, that's
cool though, I'm glad to hear that a whole crowd song. That's awesome.
That is now in the last you know, four months or so,
that's over one hundred unique people that data has been in personal with by the
crowds showing them orbs. What is this building to? You know what I
mean? Yeah, it's building to something. No, it has to be.
It has to be. Yeah, I agree, because like they can't
just come down and make their presence super known. That would just almost like
that would overwrite the effort that's been done I guess from their perspective for the
past however many years, they're being methodical with it. Whatever it is they're
doing, right, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's like it's
all calculus. The word is it anoculation? Is that the word? They're
slowly inoculating the world. Yeah, slowly, but truly, Like with all
this stuff happened on the news, like ten feet things running around in Miami,
apparently something in Virginia was just spotted. Like I don't know the legitimacy
of all this stuff, but the fact that it's coming, the conversation that
the news is covering it, and all the it's hard to like people don't
remember, but like the month after COVID broke is when the UAP Task Force
was created by the federal government in twenty twenty one. April twenty twenty one,
do you mean twenty twenty twenty twenty sorry, thank you, April twenty
twenty And I just I remember that because it was so like it's intentional.
Yeah, this is kind of like a tangent, but I remember going through
the like the pandemic at its early stages. That was really tough on me.
Sort of. You know, it's varying degrees for everybody, but I
remember thinking, dang, COVID sucks. I'm terrified. I gotta hope,
I hope I can get a vaccination soon. Blah blah blah blah blah.
And then the UAP thing hit. Mind you, I had to get vaccinate
from my work, but it was forced. The UAP Task Force was created
in April. I remember looking at my friends and I was like, wait,
nothing matters, this is all it's nothing matters. The biggest news in
modern history just happened. The government acknowledged the existence of UAPs or UFOs.
That's the real shit. And then from then on, it was every other
month or so something. The ice was it, Tom DeLong to the starts,
to the Star's Academy releasing their videos and all these pilots talking about it
like every so often. And now there's there are people filming it and putting
it on TikTok yeah, and seeing creatures run around. It's just crazy.
It's so crazy, and it's kind of it's kind of validating in a way
when I go back and think about it over the past, like fifteen to
twenty years, fifteen years, seventeen seventeen, this month, seventeen years January,
where I can't help but not put a smile on my face because we
were there when it was not cool. Yeah, we we were the ones
not cool. Let me not b No, it's okay to brag a little
now. So we've been into it for a while and not everybody's starting to
come around. Well, dude, we weren't just into it. We were
experiment of it. We were in it. Yeah, we were like we
our family. I say this all the time. Our family is like ground
zero for this entire story, breaching humanity, Like I do believe, call
me cocky whatever, I'm just being candied because others on the show and we're
having a family chat here. I always tell this to Dad. I always
tell this to Emily and Junior and all you guys. I always say that
someday we're going to be remembered for being the ones that broke this, the
real thing, not the bullshit on the news and you know, Miami mall
holograms and shit, but the real thing. We're gonna be remembered for this.
M H. I always say we're ground zero for this. You've heard
me say that how many times? Plenty of times. You know. It's
funny that you call them holograms because I remember I've seen accounts where people were
saying that they look like they glitched, they look like glitchy movements. People
in NASA and the CIA have gone through great lengths to talk to Dad and
I about how advanced their hologram tech is and how you know technology will be
used for the deception and all this. So I don't know for sure,
isn't holograms. I don't know, but that's my take. What I do
know is I do not believe that due to the universal balance and the position
of God and the beings and how reality works, I do not think that
there are just these actual physical or dimensional negative entities out there who have the
permission to just pop in and you know, pull out a blicky at the
moll and start shooting people. Yeah. I don't think that's possible. I
don't think that's how the universe works. I'll take it some fake some people,
you know, like if they had the capability to do that, they
would it would have been done like why wait now, right, you know,
because like this is how significant is a few ten fifteen years on the
cosmic calendar, because like, obviously they're they're operating on a much larger scale
than we are, like our us revolving around the sun. Three hundred and
sixty five days. That's a year. You know, There's only been two
hundred of those in American history or something. So it's like, why wait
till this moment to make them presence known? Like it just is way too
calculated, yeah, orchestrated, right, you know, Like but obviously some
people might say, oh, I've never seen them and there's no existence,
or there's no there's no there's no record, therefore they don't exist. I
had a friend, I have a friend, and he's like that. He's
like, I don't I can't believe any of this stuff. I've never seen
it and there's no record of it. And I'm sitting there. I figured
out I'm just you know, I wasn't offended. I just I let people
say what they want, Like, I can't be mad at people don't believe
something that I believe. So I'm just sitting there, quiet as heck and
discord and then a few months later, me and my friend were talking about
my dad and that other guy was like, dude, your dad's famous.
I was like, yeah kind of. He was like, oh for what,
I'm like UFOs. He's like, dude, that's freaking crazy. Yeah,
you don't have to tell me after who that was Flip. Yeah,
you've never met him. You might have met him, but it's one of
one of the discord buddies. But it was. Uh No, it's it's
funny, it's it. I love it. I love it's weird. I'll
talk about it with anybody now, Yeah, just because it's hard not to
now, you know, Like like you said in the beginning of today's show,
it's like now with the book out, now, with the documentary out,
it's like I can take a breath. I don't feel like I'm fighting
for my fucking life anymore. I don't feel like i'm fighting to Yeah,
fight or flight, it's gone. Now, it's just having fun. Oh
you want another story, Yeah, read the book, or you know,
if you don't like reading the book, watch the History Channel or just to
it and then we'll talk. You know, do your homework, do your
homework, then we'll talk. Yeah, like meeting, you know, your
lovely new girlfriend Jackie. Shout out, chat out, Jackie. You know
this is my second time meeting her, and I keep telling her like,
you know, you got to read the book, right, He said,
Hey, you guys a homework. I said, it's required reading and you
need to read it. Yeah. I don't want to tell Dad. I
don't want to tell people dad story because it's available. I'm not going to
tell it like he's going to tell it. Right. We weren't there.
We weren't there. I've only heard him tell it a billion times. I
don't want to tell it. I don't know all the specific numbers, how
many lights was it? You know? I just know what happened. I
can I can recount to you what happened. I wasn't there, what he
said, but yeah, I wasn't there. I wasn't there. Yeah.
And because it's out there, it's like I shouldn't have to say it now.
But then again, I don't want you know, I'm not trying to
like sell the book or anything. I'm just saying, if you want the
source material, it's out it's the book. Yeah. The book is the
not a paraphrase secondhand account recount, it's not it doesn't do it justice right.
Very intentionally from the start when we started this podcast, like before we
published our first episode. In my mind, I'm like, this is not
going to be a show where we're just telling the story over and over again.
We're not just gonna have Dad on here all the time. We've only
had Dad on once a year. We've had you guys on once a year
each. Actually Christiani has been on once and three years, and we have
made very intentional efforts. This is gonna be a real show that talks about
a diverse range of topics. We're not going to tell our story over and
over and over and over. And when we do tell our story, when
we do hit the canon BLOODSOE content, that's what we call it internally,
this will be a so your episode because he's a cannon blood It's so episode.
Yeah, We're we're talking about the family and the events and these are
rare special episodes. This is not the standard. This is not what I
just want to do all the time, because then who am I. I'm
just the guy telling the story over and over again. I'm nobody, you
know what I mean? I want to tistplits those son. Yeah, and
I don't want to be that. I want to have, you know,
my own exactly why I went off to Wilmington. Yeah, I wanted to
be my own freaking person, right, Yeah, No, I totally.
I'm on yourself. I'm on everybody's side, you know, nobody's against each
other here. But you know, I just think that sometimes we forget how
bad it was because it's so good right now. And you also don't realize
how bad things are when you're going through it. Like, yeah, a
lot of times people suffering from abuse don't realize they're suffering from abuse until it's
pointed out that they're suffering from abuse. Not to say we were suffering from
abuse, but you know that just to make a comparison, Like, we
didn't realize we were suffering until it was made evident that we were freaking suffering.
Yeah, you know, that's the fight or flight. You learn how
to cope, You learn how to deal with things, and you learn how
to survive, but just may not be optimal and it may not be positive,
but you learn how to do it. So we had to learn how
to survive optimally for many years because of these incredibly stressful and traumatic events that
we experienced as a family. I experienced an extreme sense of dread, like
at any given moment. There were many days, a lot of days I'd
come home crying to my wife because it's, you know, stuff going on
in my life. Like I just thought any day my life would be over.
I thought my career would just get explode. I thought I just thought
everything would go wrong because I was so conditioned to live under crisis level circumstances
for so many years of my childhood. And I tried going to therapy.
It didn't work. It was really weird. I you know, I was
like, if I'm going to go in here, I'm gonna be honest.
I start telling her about how I'm monitored by the CIA. My dad knows,
you know, is kind of well known of youzophrenic. No, it
was the opposite. She became a big fan, and it got weird.
That's what my fear was, if I go to a psychiatrist or a psychologist,
they would try and label me as like a psycho and try and medicate
me. That was my worry. That was my biggest fear. Yeah,
yeah, so I ditched. The therapy wasn't my vibe I will say probably
some psychedelic mushrooms and things of that nature have helped me to cope a little
better. That's good that you had that outlet. Otherwise I probably would not
have been the way I am now, you know. But yeah, I
think times are really good right now. Things are good right now. We
have a lot of amazing things coming. And obviously we haven't even mentioned this
yet. I have on the show many times. But we're working on a
major motion picture, major motion pick. Pretty exciting stuff there. Who you
think, who's your favorite cast pick for you? I have not even thought
all that this is just fantasy, this is not reality, will not happen,
Timothy Shallomey. But what if I wanted for me? I'm tall and
skinny. Okay, that's fair, that's fair. Plus you've actually read Dune.
I haven't. Well, I haven't read it. I've only read like
one hundred pages. So I've mentioned this on an episode before, and Jeremy
can give some insight into this. But back in twenty twelve, we were
initially working on a like a legit motion major motion picture deal, but we
never had a finalized contract. It was never official. It was negotiating for
like ten years, right, get the lawyers, let's go back and forth
with the contract. Yeah, change that line for ten years. And then
something comes up. Well it was intentional to a resolution, and it's like,
oh, well, we can't really dedicate the time to this right now
because we have all these other things going on. So just roadblocks. Well,
plus, there was a character in that deal who was sandbaging the deal
intentionally. It is what it is. Thank god that's behind us. And
you know, we were be installed and it just wasn't the right time.
But what I was bringing up was, do you remember back then when we
were so excited at the prospect of a movie being made, all the way
back in twenty twelve, twelve years ago, we were always been like,
you know, I want this one to play me, you remember, oh
yeah, and we would just like do it for hours. I think I
want post Malone to play me. Hell yeah, bro identify as post wone.
Give me like a gig of chat like Chris Pratt, or like maybe
maybe we would have kids though that play this. Oh that's right, Yeah,
I don't know any kid actors anymore neither. I remember the joke was
that they would get Justin Bieber to play me. No, I always said
I wanted them for me. Oh was that it? Yeah? Okay,
so maybe I guess I don't remember the joke. Yeah, I always said
I wanted Justin Bieber to play me because that's like the worst choice. It's
ironic. Yeah, like that little cringe humor that was popular back then.
Yeah, it's still popular. I still like it. Yeah, but no,
good it's it's it's good times, man, And I'm glad to see
that you're doing so well with it and comping so well with it. Likewise,
I appreciate it. And same for Chris Junior. You know he's doing
well. Little Chung little baby. Oh you know what this little nephew ever.
I know, dude, Teddy is just such a brilliant, little,
silly, little genius. But did you see how on January? What's the
anniversarys? It's oh wait, no, no, seven happened January Eight's.
I always get the year in the day confused, and I have to remember
it's Elvis's birthday January eighth, right, so January eighth of this month.
Did you see the video Chris took? Did you cat? You might have
been busy, but yeah, I'm sure I saw. I just I need
to go refresh my memory. Bro. So Junior was working basically on Marsh
Road, like, oh yeah, yeah, what he happened to be there?
Yeah he had So I'll tell you, Alex, because you don't know
this. Junior was working across the street. This has never happened. This
is not common. Junior never goes out into this like Outskirt Contry area of
you know, Fayetteville to work and where we used to. Yeah, and
he happened to have a job out there, literally across the street from where
the original event went down. Complete synchronicity. And he was there the seventeen
year anniversary and he sent us a video. I can show you after.
Maybe we could put it in the episode or something if you wanted to put
it on Instagram. Right, Yeah, Dad, I saw? Dad did
Oh yeah, I saw And he was working there across the street and he
said, I just had a feeling that I'm going to see them today.
He got an ORB in the daytime. Now, Dad tells us that we
all have different gifts. He thinks we're all special. In his kids,
he thinks we're special and unique in different ways. And what he always tells
me about Junior is Junior has a gift if you look back in the history
of all of this, if we just had access to every video we've ever
taken, every conversation we've ever had, Like imagine there's some like AI program
or something you could just sift through all the data if we were to look
back in the last seventeen years. Junior, even more than Dad, has
this wild ability. He only sees them in the day. Have you noticed
that. I've noticed that he sees him. Chris has sent tons of daytime
videos, and he's like getting orbs alike on video during the day. Dad
doesn't even get them on video during the day much. Sometimes a few times
ever, like recently he got one. It's wild. Yeah, recently he
got one day remember that. No, I don't couple day as it go.
Dad did. Yeah, I didn't see that what he posted on I've
been busy out of him. If I'm wrong, you can just cut this
out. No, it's all right. If you're wrong, then then it
was Junior's video because he posted Junior's video on it. That's probably what it
was. He posted Juniors on his Okay, yeah, that's what it was.
Okay, I thought this was like two hit days ago. But like
you said, so much stuff happening. I can't remember at all. Yeah,
I've been busy. Yeah for sure. Dang do you think that that
Chris Junior seeing him in the daytime? My first thought from an outside perspective
is maybe they're kind of trying to right the wrongs, because you know,
his first encounter seventeen years ago was in the dark and very traumatizing. I
think the same thing, Alex. Yeah, I know exactly what you're asking
you. Maybe maybe they're trying to approach in a more gentle right kind of
like, uh like come car correct. Yeah, you know what I mean.
I think so that's my first thought. I think so too, I
really do. I've thought that the whole time, like he's we traumatize him
enough. It had to happen for the initial story so that people would see
him the way he is, his state, it would never leave his mind,
he would stay true to it. It's real. I think that.
I think maybe there was some sort of agreement there for Dad and Junior's experience
to be so scary the first time. I can't understand it. I don't
need to, you know, But yeah, I think you're right, man.
I think they appear to Junior in a way that is comfortable to him
so that it can be a blessing and a positive experience for him. And
then kind of going back to not breaking that free will too. Yeah,
you know, he doesn't want to do that again, so it's offered in
a different, more palatable way. Yeah, I think so too. Now,
don't get me wrong. He does see them at night. He does,
like especially when we're together as a family. Even Teddy sees him.
You can. Dad has some videos where he's posted where you can hear Teddy
go angel. I want to see an angel. Papa so innocent. Yeah,
he's he's he's amazing. But I think you're right man, And and
and I've I've wondered that a lot. But I appreciate you coming on big
Dog before we bounce though. Is there ah you to invite me on?
Yeah? Man, it's it's fun. I think this was a wonderful episode.
Yeah. Is there anything that you you feel like unresolved or you know
now that you're here, I mean, is there anything you feel like you
gotta get off your chest before we dip in? Peace with what's been said?
Mm hmm. Anything you can recommend or advice you could give to the
listeners. I do have a recommendation. It's nothing to do with the show.
Like the show though, Okay, watch Solo Leveling. Hey we're about
to wrap and or watch the fourth episode together. No, I appreciate the
platform. I've been feeling pretty good about my life lately, really good about
my future. I'm trying to plan for my future in ways i've never been
able to and it's very exciting and a lot, I mean a lot of
this has probably helped push me into where I'm at now. So I appreciate
that. Love my family, Love your family, you know, if you
can, for those of you who are lucky to have family, and if
you don't, well, then find somebody to love because it's worth it.
Yeah, make a family, friends, you know, Families take charge of
your life. Yeah, Jeremy, I just want to say thank you for
sharing that experience with us. Yeah, man, for sure, Really,
I genuinely never heard that. That was pretty deep. Yeah, it was
that part of my life. That was my repression, depression part of my
life. Super anxious, little twenty year old can't do anything. Now,
I'm like a pretty low key, chill thirty two year old. Now you've
got the conquerors hockey. Yeah. Now you walk in the room, people
fate. No, especially the ladies. Huh, especially the ladies. No,
let me not sell that. No, they don't. Just the one.
Okay, okay, man, that's a good answer. That's a very
seasoned, wise answer. You're ahead of your time, young padawan. Thank
you, mister awesome. Well she sh I guess I guess that's a rap.
We're very blessed because tomorrow our sister actually she's here now, but tomorrow
we're going to record with our sister Emmy. So next week you can look
forward to and expect to have an episode with Emmy. So I guess that's
all we got. The blessed sos. The blessed sos, that's what I'm
talking about. I like that better than I bled so much. Did you
hear that in elementary school? Oh? Did you bleed too much? Yeah?
So darn a lot of like man, Bleddy, come with something better,
Bleddy the fed. Some people will call me bleddy the fed, like
you're a fed. In school, you were just like some young some friends
that had some friends. And then I heard people tell me, I look
like a cop just because the bald head with the glasses. If I wear
him, he's like a little copy like Miami Vice. I'm gonna start calling
you Miami Vice. Yeah all right, Well, thanks for listening, guys,
Thanks for supporting the show. Uh, thanks for just hearing our story
and supporting us and believing in us. And it is life changing and this
little podcast has done wonders for our family, and you guys don't really see
the reality of how it's impacted us behind the scenes. So can't thank you
enough, can't thank you enough? You ready? Yeah, bye guys,
Bye, guys. Weird things happen in the backyard Blacks House sit so weird,
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